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L1[00:03:18]
<s_a_m>
what
L2[00:03:25]
<s_a_m>
what do you mean "secure boot"
L3[00:03:30]
<s_a_m> how
far do you intend to take it
L4[00:20:26]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> Baisicly prevent a computer from being booted w/o a
password
L5[00:20:39]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> And Mabey a bios check
L6[00:22:47]
<Ocawesome101> cynosure now uses palette
colors in its tty so the 16 tty colors are exactly what they should
be rather than being compressed to oc's 256-color range :)
L7[00:23:31]
<Ocawesome101> upside of this is that they
look exactly the same on both t2 and t3
L8[00:25:12]
<Kodos> You
could just secure the case somewhere remote, and use a wakeOnLan
message with a very secure string
L9[00:25:19]
<Ocawesome101> speaking of OSes, @sam
whenever you finally finish tsuki it better be the best god damn
thing i've ever seen or i'll be disappointed
L10[00:26:58]
<s_a_m>
>Ocawesome101: speaking of OSes, <@!17568699646161716…
L11[00:26:58]
<s_a_m>
bet
L12[00:35:00] <Amanda> %choose more
haha-waves or curl up with a halucinations
L13[00:35:00] <MichiBot> Amanda: A wizard
is never late, and sometimes engages in some "more
haha-waves".
L14[01:10:01] *
Amanda boops Elfi, starts reading
L15[02:20:41]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> I think I should make a combined eeprom and init.lua
program that will act as secure boot
L16[02:21:11]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> The eeprom will fail to boot if not on the matching
system
L17[02:21:11]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> And the system will fail to boot without the matching
eeprom
L19[02:21:27] <MichiBot> Amanda: Inari
will be notified of this message when next seen.
L20[02:22:16]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> I think I should read the code of RPG from the data card
programs list
L21[02:22:28]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> GPG not RPG
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L23[03:36:46]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> are there any esoteric languague CPUs for
OpenComputers
L24[03:37:07] <Izaya> there's a JS one,
that's pretty impenetrable :^)
L25[03:38:36]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> they literally say
L26[03:38:37]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> > OCJS does not have a supported operation
system
L27[03:38:37]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> > My stance is that OCJS is nothing more than a
prototype, and will not recieve functional updates. If someone
wants to write an OS for it, go for it! I'll gladly look into
adding it to the mod. Just be aware that oc-js and OCJS are not
compatable, so effort should probably be focused on OCJS
instead.
L28[03:38:53]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> also JS is not a esoteric languague (as much as i wish it
were)
L29[03:44:07]
<Ocawesome101> there's a 6502 arch
L30[03:44:14]
<Shuudoushi> >walksanator. B⃢ot.:
Baisicly prevent a computer from being boot…
L31[03:44:14]
<Shuudoushi> Add a login script to the
boot directory that keeps the system from fully booting until
correct user info is entered. This defeats autorun nearly outright
as autorun isn't called till the filesystem is loaded, just have to
add event handling to detect force quit and force a reboot if the
key combo is pressed. Also, force a reboot if login fails
L32[03:44:32]
<Ocawesome101> `[]:w`
L33[03:44:34]
<Ocawesome101> oops
L34[03:44:59]
<Ocawesome101>
`require("process").info().data.signal = function() end`
will disable ctrl-alt-c entirely for that process
L35[03:45:28]
<Ocawesome101> btw, did you ever finish
fixing secureOS?
L37[03:46:05]
<SparkyFox>
are mods still being made for 1.12? like addon stuff for oc
L38[03:46:13]
<Shuudoushi> Yes and no
L39[03:46:40]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> i am considering making a BrainF\\\* CPU
L40[03:46:49]
<Shuudoushi> Have fun
L41[03:46:58]
<Ocawesome101> good luck programming
anything significant in bf
L42[03:47:06]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> but i also have 0 java knowledge
L43[03:47:19] <Izaya> enjoy OOP hell
L44[03:47:28]
<Shuudoushi> ^
L45[03:47:47]
<Shuudoushi> Java is shit, c++ or
die
L46[03:47:56]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> python gang over here
L47[03:48:19]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> (python cpu when)
L48[03:48:26]
<Shuudoushi> Says the guy that overhauled
a good chunk of an operating systems backend in fucking
Lua...
L49[03:48:33] <Izaya> like a while
ago
L50[03:48:38]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> wait wut
L51[03:48:39] <Izaya> there's a micropython
addon
L52[03:48:44]
<Shuudoushi> ^
L53[03:48:46]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> that runs python
L54[03:48:50]
<Shuudoushi> Es
L55[03:48:51] <Izaya> for if you want
something that's just worse than lua
L56[03:48:53]
<SparkyFox>
ahh, i was gonna try something, but i cant even get 1.12 fore to
even work, basically the new version, eclipse doesnt start
minecraft(it does, but crashes it), so i wasnt sure if 1.12 has
been dropped
L57[03:48:54]
<Shuudoushi> Yes*
L58[03:48:54]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> i want a python direct CPU
L59[03:49:17]
<Shuudoushi> There's also a python to Lua
library some fucking place
L60[03:50:19] <Izaya> today's change to my
cursed inventory system: rather than printing <true/false>
and the number of items extracted, it pops up a dialog box while
the list refreshes
L61[03:50:45]
<Shuudoushi> The fuck is wrong with you
Izaya...
L62[03:50:59] <Izaya> it's nicer
L63[03:51:07]
<Shuudoushi> Lol
L64[03:51:09] <Izaya> keeps with the UI of
the rest of the program
L65[03:51:32] <Izaya> rather than scrolling
the screen and saying random shit
L66[03:51:41] <Izaya> you get a
"Success" or "Error" box with a count
L67[03:51:50] <Izaya> and it only sticks
around until the list is refreshed
L68[03:51:54]
<Shuudoushi> Clear and redraw just that
line?
L69[03:52:26] <Izaya> I don't think you
understand
L70[03:52:40] <Izaya> it refreshes the list
of items from the server when you extract items
L71[03:52:44] <Izaya> which can take
several seconds
L72[03:52:59] <Izaya> so rather than
scrolling the whole pseudo-GUI out of the way for a status
thinger
L73[03:53:02]
<Shuudoushi> Idfk, my inventory management
consist of "jam it in that fucking box over there, then make
10 more because I can't remember what I did with it"
lulz
L74[03:53:15] <Izaya> it shows a popup that
tells you whether it worked or not
L75[03:53:34] *
Amanda snuggles up around elfi, passes out
L76[03:53:37] <Amanda> Night nerds
L77[03:53:43]
<Shuudoushi> Night
L78[03:53:45] <Amanda> Oh
L79[03:53:48] <Izaya> lemme boot up the
game to show you a screenshot
L81[03:55:01] <Amanda> Elfi: I know
YouTubers intruding into the realm of the fae is annoying, but
please refrain from creating entirely new timelines in reaction.
Cute how the hydroponics farm they had was converted into a cookie
bakery though
L82[03:55:18]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> anyone got a list of opencomputers peripheral mods for
1.12.2
L83[03:55:39]
<Shuudoushi> Curse forge?
L84[03:55:43]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> yes
L85[03:55:52]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> or github
L86[03:55:55]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> i can compile
L87[03:56:30] <Amanda> OpenTablets does a
couple of qol things I wanted with tablets. Search "darkdna
OpenTablets" it's on our gitlab
L88[03:56:35]
<Shuudoushi> Uh, idfk, I've been too busy
to even make sure SoS is working as intended
L89[03:56:53] <Amanda> Anyways, time to
sleep for real now
L90[03:57:00]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> >Amanda: OpenTablets does a couple of qol things I
wanted with…
L92[03:57:02]
<Shuudoushi> o/
L93[03:57:07] <Amanda> Yup
L94[03:57:17]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> neat
L95[03:57:25] <Amanda> Oh right, I never
fixed the ci did i
L96[03:57:54] <Amanda> %remindme 8h poke
Alex into helping fix the ci runners so OT can be built
L97[03:57:54] <MichiBot> I'll tell you
"poke Alex into helping fix the ci runners so OT can be
built" in 8h at 09/07/2021 11:57:54 AM
L98[04:03:59]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> i wonder what makes opencomputers so hard to port to
1.16
L99[04:24:54] <Izaya> Shuudoushi: still
there?
L101[04:27:27]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> umm how do i get text input in openComputers lua
L102[04:27:37] <Izaya> io.read, same as in
normal Lua
L103[04:27:55]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> ok i am uses to CC lua which omits the `io.` part
L104[04:29:41] <Izaya> OC tries to
implement the Lua standard libraries as specified in the manual as
well as possible
L105[04:30:34]
<Ocawesome101> i will point out that ULOS
does standard library emulation a smidge better (at least in some
areas) than OpenOS
L106[04:30:56]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> sad i cant seem to figure out how to `print` in boot
scripts
L107[04:32:33] <Izaya> if it's before the
OS loads, you'll need to talk to the component directly
L108[04:32:49]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> so io:stdout
L109[04:32:57] <Izaya> no
L110[04:33:00] <Izaya> ~w component
L112[04:33:15]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> screen or gpu
L113[04:33:45] <Izaya> you'll end up
having to deal with both
L114[04:36:18]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> first expiernce with OC and i am directly interracting
with componets
L115[04:36:37]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> Also all ready disabled ctrl+alt+c
L118[04:38:20]
<Ocawesome101> spot the difference? ...oh
wait, there isn't one
L119[04:38:31]
<Ocawesome101> (except the filename
difference)
L120[04:40:27]
<Kodos>
Someone highlight me if Shuu comes back
L121[04:40:30]
<s_a_m>
lemme get lcpio on openos vs linux :P
L122[04:42:00]
<Ocawesome101> @sam the key thing here is
that even the colors are 100% identical
L123[04:47:46]
<s_a_m>
well yea
L124[04:47:53]
<s_a_m>
lmao
L125[04:48:16]
<s_a_m>
lcpio has weirdness under openos with colors
L126[04:53:21]
<CyborgPotato> %tonkout
L127[04:53:22] <MichiBot> Wow!
CyborgPotato! You beat your own previous record of 11 hours, 34
minutes and 26 seconds (By 1 hour, 45 minutes and 2 seconds)! I
hope you're happy!
L128[04:53:23] <MichiBot> CyborgPotato
has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.013 tonk points!
plus 0.024 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score:
0.08035, Position #10 => #8 (Overtook bauen1) Need 0.0557428
more points to pass ThePiGuy24!
L129[05:00:25]
<Ocawesome101> how does lcpio do
colors?
L130[05:00:34]
<Ocawesome101> %shellcount
L131[05:00:34] <MichiBot> Ocawesome101:
You have 0 Blue Shells, 3 Red Shells, 5 Green Shells, and 2
Bricks
L132[05:00:37]
<Ocawesome101> %tonkleaders
L134[05:01:04]
<Ocawesome101> %redshell Forecaster
L135[05:01:05] <MichiBot> Ocawesome101:
Unfortunately you missed with a 7 vs 14.
L136[05:01:08]
<Ocawesome101> damn
L137[05:04:44]
<s_a_m>
>Ocawesome101: how does lcpio do colors?
L138[05:04:45]
<s_a_m>
ansi escapes, duh
L140[05:14:37] ⇦
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L141[05:19:46]
<Ocawesome101> >surface to air
missile: ansi escapes, duh
L142[05:19:47]
<Ocawesome101> I tried it it’s just that
OpenOS doesn’t support bright colors?
L143[05:19:59]
<Ocawesome101> I take it it’s just that
OpenOS doesn’t support bright colors? [Edited]
L144[05:20:46]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> I dislike hoe I have to reload the world for oc to
realismze the file changes I made via vscode extrnally
L145[05:21:04] <Izaya> you only need to
remove and re-insert the drive
L146[05:21:09] <Izaya> but there's a
config option to disable buffering
L147[05:21:12]
<Ocawesome101> Disable bufferChanges in
the COVID m config
L148[05:21:28]
<Ocawesome101> Disable bufferChanges in
the config [Edited]
L149[05:21:37]
<Ocawesome101> Fkn iPad
L150[05:21:39]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> Also my text is overlapping
L152[05:32:01]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> (note: `status` is copied from /lib/core/boot.lua so i
get print usage effectively)
L153[05:32:14]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> even though is the literal last thing to load
L154[05:32:33]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> it also seems to position the io.read funny
L155[05:32:51]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> (instead of being after the last printed statment it is
instead on the next line it was just at)
L156[05:37:58]
<Kodos> Why
the hell can't I camo the camo mag reader
L157[05:38:15] <Izaya> today in
OpenSecurity shit
L158[05:38:24] <Izaya> I made an airlock
for my very airy base
L159[05:39:57]
<JimTheGentlemanGR> Hey
L160[05:40:52]
<JimTheGentlemanGR> uhm, I seem to be
having an issue with the holoprojector, the computer is tier 3 with
all the necessary components to run, i installed the stuff needed
to do geo2holo, and the projector no matter if i connect it to the
pc or not says "Not enough memory"
L161[05:41:46]
<JimTheGentlemanGR> Guys..?
L162[05:42:01]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> what all do you have running
L163[05:42:08]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> also what tier ram do you have in it
L164[05:42:15]
<JimTheGentlemanGR> 3.5
L165[05:42:22]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> 2 sticks?
L166[05:42:24]
<JimTheGentlemanGR> >walksanator.
B⃢ot.: what all do you have running
L167[05:42:24]
<JimTheGentlemanGR> yes
L168[05:42:40]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> wait you have baisically everything running
L169[05:42:43]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> no wonder
L170[05:42:47]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> that is is alot of ram
L172[05:43:07]
<JimTheGentlemanGR> >walksanator.
B⃢ot.: that is is alot of ram
L174[05:43:07]
<JimTheGentlemanGR> so what is the
issue?
L175[05:43:25]
<Kodos> You
need more memory in your computer
L176[05:43:28]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> try having less running
L177[05:43:35]
<Kodos>
Upgrade your case, or yeah don't run so much at once
L178[05:43:37]
<Kodos>
Consider a server
L179[05:43:59]
<JimTheGentlemanGR> i removed one stick of
ram
L180[05:44:25]
<JimTheGentlemanGR> >walksanator.
B⃢ot.: try having less running
L181[05:44:25]
<JimTheGentlemanGR> the pc is connected to
the geolyzer and the holo (also the screen too)
L182[05:44:38]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> you removed a stick of ram
L183[05:44:58]
<JimTheGentlemanGR> yes- 👁️👄👁️
L184[05:44:59]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> also how do you pack more power into a server
L185[05:45:46]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> because i only know how to use slot for componets
L186[05:48:03]
<JimTheGentlemanGR> >Kodos: Upgrade
your case, or yeah don't run so much at on…
L187[05:48:03]
<JimTheGentlemanGR> it's already tier
3
L188[05:49:45]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> server racks can hold more ram
L189[05:50:07]
<JimTheGentlemanGR> well
L190[05:50:12]
<JimTheGentlemanGR> if that's what it
takes to run a hologram
L191[05:50:37]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> also the servers are just generally more powerfull
L192[06:01:58]
<Kodos>
It's not that it's what it takes to run a hologram
L193[06:02:07]
<Kodos>
It's that you're clearly running too much
L194[06:02:20]
<Kodos> But
you aren't listening to that, so we're offering alternatives
L195[06:02:36]
<Kodos> A
server holds 4 sticks of memory vs a computer's 2
L196[06:02:49]
<Kodos> It
also has component buses which allow for more components connected
per computer
L197[06:03:11]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> is there a way to use more than 4 memory sticks on a
pc
L198[06:03:22]
<Kodos> No
but you can configure the memory per stick via the config
L199[06:03:51]
<Kodos>
Servers aren't necessarily more powerful than computers, but they
are more situational use much like microcontrollers imo
L200[06:04:10]
<Kodos> If
you're not needing to interact with the computer much to have it do
its job, a server is generally better suited for something like
that
L201[06:04:18]
<Kodos>
Reactor monitors are great examples
L202[06:04:26]
<Kodos> Or
rather, reactor control programs
L203[06:04:31]
<Kodos>
Since those tend to be self sufficient
L204[06:04:44]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> microcrontroller would be neat if it could interface w/ a
bit more
L205[06:05:05]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> but then they would be slightly cheaper computers
L206[06:05:35]
<Kodos> The
only time I've ever used a microcontroller is for monitoring a
furnace's status and beeping when it's done
L207[06:05:52]
<Kodos> And
I only ever set that up when I'm doing a batch job of like 10,000
glass or some such
L209[06:07:39]
<Kodos> I
was on the fence between a roll door and a security door, but
eh
L210[06:07:46]
<Kodos>
It's a shed behind the Lab
L211[06:07:48]
<Kodos> Who
cares
L213[06:09:11]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> hmm
L214[06:09:14]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> or
L215[06:09:40]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> i could have for EX: a number at index 0 which determines
the device to be indexed
L217[06:11:08]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> but you would then be hard capped at 255 componets
L218[06:11:19]
<Kodos> Do
we still have the bot doing brainfuck
L219[06:11:20]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> because BranF888 caps at 8 bit numbers
L220[06:11:34]
<Kodos>
%brainfuck
++++++++++[>+++++++>++++++++++>+++<<<-]>++.>+.+++++++
L222[06:11:34]
<Kodos>
..+++.>++.<<+++++++++++++++.>.+++.------.--------.>+.
L223[06:11:41]
<Kodos>
Lmao I broke it
L224[06:12:06]
<Kodos> Oh,
wait, I see
L226[06:12:36] <Izaya> .tell prisma
there's a pretty big mineshaft system under the base by the
way
L227[06:12:37]
<Kodos> Ah,
screw it
L228[06:12:40] <Izaya> %tell prisma
there's a pretty big mineshaft system under the base by the
way
L229[06:12:40] <MichiBot> Izaya: prisma
will be notified of this message when next seen.
L230[06:13:01]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> %brainfuck
L231[06:13:01] <MichiBot> walksanator.
B⃢ot.: Invalid arguments. %bf string
L232[06:13:01]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> ```+++.```
L233[06:13:08]
<Kodos> %bf
"++++++++++[>+++++++>++++++++++>+++<<<-]>++.>+.+++++++
L235[06:13:08]
<Kodos>
..+++.>++.<<+++++++++++++++.>.+++.------.--------.>+."
L236[06:13:11]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> %bf +++.
L238[06:13:18]
<Kodos>
Okay, is broken I think
L239[06:13:21]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> %bf `+++.`
L241[06:13:25]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> sad
L242[06:13:28]
<Kodos>
Yeah, let's not for now
L243[06:13:39]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> but that
L244[06:13:45]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> or some other esoland
L245[06:13:49]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> esolang*
L246[06:14:19]
<JimTheGentlemanGR> so- i left the server
i was in, I went to a single player world, put the exact same set
up of items and now the hologram works...?
L247[06:14:25]
<JimTheGentlemanGR> idk what is
happenin
L248[06:14:32]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> mabey server configs
L249[06:15:27]
<Kodos>
Sounds like server configs yeah
L250[06:15:36]
<Kodos>
They probably lowered the memory per stick
L251[06:15:44]
<Kodos> So
on default settings, your setup works fine
L252[06:15:44]
<JimTheGentlemanGR> amma talk to the
owner
L253[06:15:51]
<Kodos>
Indeed
L254[06:17:56]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> idea NDBall CPU
L256[06:18:56]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> ah yes
L258[06:20:23]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> because i remeber i was making my own esolang which was a
mix of NDBall, entropy, and Assembly
L259[06:30:59]
<Michiyo>
@Kodos yes, IIRC it's broken due to a bug in the command class that
@Forecaster has been working on?
L260[06:31:28]
<Forecaster> apparently regex escaping
isn't working as well as it should
L261[06:31:33]
<Michiyo>
^
L262[06:31:56]
<Michiyo>
brainfuck could likely get the same treatment lua did to run code
from paste sites. I also want to let it support code blocks
L263[06:32:08]
<Forecaster> I might just have to manually
escape meta characters in inputs
L264[06:33:13]
<Forecaster> I still need to finish those
unit tests for the argument parser
L265[06:33:45]
<Michiyo>
I'm an idiot however. Cause code blocks aren't sent as raw
sites..
L266[06:33:56]
<Michiyo>
so that support would have to come from Corded
L267[06:34:20]
<Michiyo>
OR MichiBot would have to turn paste.pc-logix.com requests INTO raw
pages
L268[06:36:00]
<Kodos> How
about neither of those, and instead you tell me how to camo the
camo mag reader lol
L269[06:36:09]
<Kodos>
Also the sidedness of the biometric reader is wonky af
L270[06:36:20]
<Kodos> It
'works' fine, but the appearance of it is weird
L271[06:36:46]
<Kodos> The
side you actually see your arm 'swing' when you interact is never
the side the reader's facing, but it seems to work okay for actual
interaction
L272[06:37:22]
<Kodos>
Just swapped out the card reader for the bio reader. Though I'm
still on the fence, because I'm also considering the keypad
L273[06:37:27]
<Kodos> But
the biometric reader seems most secure
L274[06:37:49]
<Kodos> I
made it really easy and just have a list of authorized users I can
read from for whatever program
L275[06:37:55]
<Kodos>
Well, their UUIDs
L276[06:38:23]
<Kodos> And
then it just assigns `true` to each UUID in the file, so I can just
"If UUID then open_door" or whatever
L277[06:38:31]
<Kodos> No
muss no fuss
L278[06:38:45]
<Kodos>
Which, actually, I'm an idiot
L279[06:38:48]
<Kodos>
UUID will always return true
L283[06:47:15]
<Michiyo>
@Kodos I;m going to go ahead and just "What" that entire
chunk of text there.
L284[06:51:05]
<Michiyo>
Also, rolldoors aren't tileents AFAIK
L285[06:51:10]
<Kodos> I'm
working on a shed for h azmat storage
L286[06:51:55]
<Kodos> I
wanted a way to get out easier
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L288[06:52:08]
<Michiyo>
Oh, I'm wrong they are.
L289[06:52:11]
<Michiyo>
shrug
L290[06:52:23]
<Michiyo>
My "what" was to the upper chunk there.. though
L291[06:52:48]
<Shuudoushi> Sounds like michiyo has more
work to do than they'd like to actually do
L292[06:53:03]
<Michiyo>
lol
L293[06:53:04]
<Michiyo>
no
L294[06:55:27]
<Shuudoushi> Oh yeah, i got another
strongly worded email from Verizon about my cellular data usage
lol
L295[06:55:58]
<Shuudoushi> It was just 1tb last month,
idfk why they're bitching
L296[06:59:11]
<Michiyo>
ok.. wtf why isn't the camo card reader working
L297[06:59:46] <Izaya> it's hiding from
you
L298[07:00:05]
<Shuudoushi> 99 bugs in the code, 99 bugs
in the code! Take one down, patch it around. 105 bugs in the
code!
L299[07:00:19]
<Forecaster> %bugs
L300[07:00:19] <MichiBot> 63 little bugs
on the wall. Take one down, patch it around. 145 little bugs on the
wall.
L301[07:01:05]
<Michiyo>
GOD DAMN IT
L302[07:02:34]
<Shuudoushi> Lulz, rip michiyo
L303[07:04:14]
<Forecaster> %tonk
L304[07:04:15] <MichiBot> Fudge!
Forecaster! You beat CyborgPotato's previous record of <0 (By
2 hours, 10 minutes and 53 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L305[07:04:16] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new
record is 2 hours, 10 minutes and 53 seconds! Forecaster also
gained 0.00218 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position
#1.
L306[07:04:20]
<Michiyo>
Great... and I can't fucking BUILD THE MOD ANYMORE.
L307[07:04:22]
<Michiyo>
yay!
L309[07:05:43]
<Michiyo>
Cause... I'm not sure.
L310[07:05:54]
<Forecaster> what's not working?
L311[07:06:30]
<Michiyo>
IDK wtf is wrong actually
L312[07:06:41]
<Kodos> It
won't let me right click it with a block to conceal it
L313[07:06:42]
<Michiyo> I
need to get this in a working damn dev env which is impossible
right now
L314[07:07:36]
<Michiyo>
this worked once upon a time... because it was working on my 1.12
server.
L315[07:07:37]
<Forecaster> oh, because it returns false
if you don't click it with a card or an empty hand?
L316[07:07:44]
<Michiyo> I
HAD it deployed...
L317[07:08:40]
<Michiyo>
wait... I wasn't running a released build
L318[07:08:43]
<Michiyo>
let's try this build
L319[07:10:03]
<Michiyo>
Ok..
L321[07:10:13]
<Michiyo>
But then I override THAT in the reader block
L322[07:10:44]
<Michiyo>
So.. how the hell was it working before (Also it doesn't work in
this build either...
L323[07:11:24]
<Michiyo>
So.. how the hell was it working before (Also it doesn't work in
this build either...) [Edited]
L325[07:13:21] <Izaya> once I get all
these rolldoors hooked up I should do a video
L326[07:16:54]
<Michiyo>
FMFL
L328[07:17:25]
<Michiyo>
WHY DOES OPENSECURITY EVEN NEED AE2?!
L329[07:17:49]
<Forecaster> to store all the
security
L330[07:18:33]
<Michiyo>
Fuck it
L331[07:18:34]
<Michiyo>
I'm done
L332[07:21:31]
<Shuudoushi> >fuck it
L333[07:21:31]
<Shuudoushi> >I'm done
L334[07:21:32]
<Shuudoushi> I feel this statement in the
core of my being
L335[07:22:40]
<Forecaster> Done it
L336[07:22:40]
<Forecaster> I'm fuck
L337[07:22:53]
<Shuudoushi> >Forecaster: to store all
the security
L338[07:22:54]
<Shuudoushi> I'm pretty sure michiyo will
shank you with a keyboard, lulz
L339[07:23:32]
<Forecaster> just gotta `%shiv Forecaster
keyboard`
L340[07:24:51]
<Kodos> Why
does the security door work as fuel? The world may never know
answers to weird questions like these
L341[07:25:26]
<Michiyo>
Because it subclasses a door
L342[07:25:34] <Izaya> hmm
L343[07:25:42] <Izaya> I'm going to run
out of space in my iron compacting drawer
L344[07:32:12]
<Kodos>
Well what the shit, now I can't place a security door
L345[07:32:45]
<Kodos> Oh,
wait, I know why
L346[07:34:52]
<Michiyo>
@benmkiv / benmkiv either one I don't care.... you have a build dep
on AE2 for "the case block" that isn't even IN OpenSec...
is there even a reason to have it??
L347[07:40:15]
<Kodos> Hey
uhh What's an easy way to get a magcard's UUID
L348[07:40:25]
<Kodos>
Without having to write it to a file via a quick Lua console
thinger
L349[07:40:47]
<Michiyo>
dmesg should show it
L350[07:40:59]
<Kodos>
Yeah but for the sake of needing to put it into a cfg file
L351[07:41:06]
<Michiyo>
good luck
L352[07:41:20]
<Kodos>
Welp, time to write a program to generate a cfg file by swiping
cards
L353[07:41:48]
<Kodos>
Might actually be a better idea anyway, just have a set of
validated cards I hand out, that I can invalidate at will
L354[07:42:04]
<Kodos> And
then just have each program have a key I can press to 'update' the
authorized list
L355[07:42:16]
<Kodos>
Without having to interrupt much else of the program
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L358[07:56:33]
<Kodos>
Fuck me, spent 10 minutes debugging why the fuck the door wouldn't
open, including 5 minutes meticulously making sure I had the UUID
right
L359[07:56:44]
<Kodos> I
was catching an event called magReader, when I was needing
magData
L360[07:57:09]
<Kodos> I
swear, I know I'm a smart dude, but writing programs in Lua for
OpenComputers really makes me feel dumb af sometimes
L361[08:00:08]
<Michiyo>
in your defense... magReader makes more sense... set that event
name :P
L362[08:04:59]
<Kodos> Lol
I just fixed the code back to magData
L363[08:05:09]
<Kodos> But
when I get to the point of actually setting everything up proper,
and not in a sandbox
L364[08:05:14]
<Kodos>
I'll do it a bit cleaner
L365[08:05:34]
<Kodos>
I'll do the card UUID writing program in single player as well so I
don't lose that file
L367[08:15:38]
<Michiyo>
ummm.. WTF
L369[08:15:58]
<Michiyo>
Build 18 AND 75???
L371[08:16:45]
<Michiyo>
Good news is.. OpenSecurity builds again.
L372[08:16:55]
<Michiyo>
Bad news is... It builds... twice... somewhere else?????
L373[08:17:04]
<Kodos>
#blameben
L374[08:18:00]
<Kodos> I
really like that I can put strip cards in the briefcase
L375[08:18:30]
<Kodos>
I've already gotten step one of my security stuff sorted
L376[08:18:49]
<Kodos> I
just need to move it over to a central security server and have
different things network to it to check if the card/user is
authorized
L377[08:19:13]
<Kodos> I
wonder if comments on my files would work
L378[08:19:58]
<Michiyo>
Where the hell is the 2nd build coming from o_O
L380[08:20:12]
<Kodos>
break if I had a file of lines with user UUIDs and then `-- My
comment here`?
L381[08:20:22]
<Forecaster> mirror universe leaking into
this one
L382[08:20:54]
<Forecaster> it would insert the comment
into the table?
L383[08:21:06]
<Kodos> Bah
okay
L384[08:21:50]
<Forecaster> unless you do something like
`not line.startsWith('--')` whatever the equivalent is in Lua
L385[08:21:52]
<Forecaster> probably patterns
L386[08:22:21]
<Kodos>
See, that I could handle because I already have code from Dave when
I checked chat messages to only respond to things that started with
`Dave, `
L387[08:27:45]
<Michiyo> I
thought I might have had travis or cloud bees setup.. but
no...
L388[08:28:45]
<Michiyo>
the only webhooks I have configured in github are for discord, and
jenkins
L389[08:29:02]
<Michiyo>
and gitter
L390[08:29:07]
<Michiyo>
wow... remember gitter?
L391[08:29:10]
<Michiyo> I
sure don';t
L392[08:29:28]
<Forecaster> uh
L393[08:31:39]
<Kodos> 14
days and no comment on my secure disk box idea 😦
L394[08:31:59]
<Kodos>
Even a regular one would be nice at this point
L395[08:32:13]
<Kodos>
Just a little box that I can sit on top of my filing cabinet that
renders the floppies inside of it
L396[08:33:05]
<Michiyo>
Yeah, I've not touched Java, much less MC modding in a long ass
time. I'm just starting again.
L398[08:33:35]
<Michiyo>
Also, I don't do rendering, so you'll be lucky to get a UI
L399[08:33:41]
<Michiyo>
IF anything
L400[08:33:56]
<Kodos> I
mean I'm down for a more immersive experience, where I right click
with the disk in hand to store, empty hand to retrieve
L401[08:34:04]
<Kodos>
Sneak right click with empty hand to open/close the box
L402[08:34:12]
<Michiyo>
hahahahahahahahaahhaahaaaaaaaaaa
L403[08:34:21]
<Forecaster> hitting the right disk would
be really fiddly
L404[08:34:25]
<Michiyo>
jajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajaaaaaaa for my non english speaking
friends
L405[08:40:56]
<ben_mkiv>
uhmmmmmm, ae2 dep... idk, let me take a look
L406[08:42:16]
<Michiyo>
Nah
L407[08:42:18]
<Michiyo>
it's cool
L408[08:42:20]
<Michiyo> I
ripped it out
L409[08:42:22]
<Michiyo>
builds just fine
L410[08:42:46]
<Forecaster> 1 year later: "Who
removed the ae2 dep?!"
L411[08:43:01]
<ben_mkiv>
😄
L412[08:43:10]
<Michiyo>
The case was moved to one of ben's other mods
L413[08:43:12]
<Compec>
should i port my menu program thing to OC
L414[08:43:46]
<ben_mkiv>
i think... i was adding the blast resistant stuff within
OpenSecurity first, but moved that later to ocdevices and that
might have slipped through
L415[08:43:58]
<ben_mkiv>
that's the only thing that i could think of related to a case
block...
L416[08:44:06]
<ben_mkiv>
but still, no idea why it would depend on AE2
L417[08:44:21]
<Michiyo>
Yep
L418[08:44:34]
<Michiyo>
No clue, but that's what it was
L419[08:46:17]
<ben_mkiv>
well i can say, i have the same dependency in OCDevices
L420[08:46:30]
<ben_mkiv>
but i don't see anything referencing AE2 stuff either 😄
L421[08:46:55]
<Forecaster> it just wanted to be included
and added itself
L422[08:47:26]
<Michiyo>
So yeah.. it LOOKS like I just need to call super.onInteract or
something and I'm not
L423[08:47:50]
<Compec> im
just watching the smart people speak
L424[08:48:59] <Izaya> steam don't
segfault on login challenge 2021
L425[08:50:08]
<Compec>
onfmfmfmff how ir np aegdIflt
L426[08:50:51]
<Forecaster> whatever that is maybe stop
mashing the keyboard
L427[08:50:51]
<ben_mkiv>
and i just packed my java dev stuff up and moved it on my spare
drive to get some free space...
L428[08:51:44]
<ben_mkiv>
bet ocdevices also doesn't need the AE2-dep, unless it was some
weird edge case where one of the dependencies required it
L429[08:52:52]
<Michiyo>
god damn it.. I can't get my dev env working... so I have to do
this via gitweb.. and this shit is annoying
L431[08:53:55]
<ben_mkiv>
yea
L432[08:54:02]
<ben_mkiv>
you added datatypes as parameters
L433[08:54:37]
<Michiyo>
Yeah and?
L434[08:54:42]
<Michiyo>
it bitched that I DIDN'T before
L436[08:54:59]
<ben_mkiv>
😄
L437[08:55:09]
<ben_mkiv>
`super.onBlockActivated(World,BlockPos,IBlockState,EntityPlayer,EnumHand,EnumFacing,float,float,float);`
L438[08:55:16]
<ben_mkiv>
thats not how you call a function
L439[08:55:29]
<Michiyo>
ugh fuck me
L440[08:55:43]
<ben_mkiv>
literary?
L441[08:55:44]
<Michiyo>
I'm not an idiot ok
L442[08:55:51]
<Michiyo> I
swear
L443[08:55:53]
<Michiyo>
....
L444[08:55:57]
<Michiyo> I
just play one on IRC
L445[08:56:00]
<Michiyo>
and discord.
L446[08:56:10]
<Forecaster> dircord
L447[08:56:19] <Corded> * <Michiyo>
sighs
L448[08:56:20]
<Forecaster> d*irc*ord [Edited]
L449[08:56:29]
<Forecaster> d**irc**ord [Edited]
L450[08:57:11]
<ben_mkiv>
%choice amd or intel
L451[08:57:12] <MichiBot> ben_mkiv: Hold
on tightly! "amd" is a wild ride!
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L453[08:57:42]
<Compec>
amd is good
L454[08:57:47]
<ben_mkiv>
%choice amd or michiyo
L455[08:57:48] <MichiBot> ben_mkiv: I
have a pamphlet that says never to engage in "amd", so
you should definitely do it!
L456[08:58:08]
<Compec>
the radeon hd 6xxx series was trash tho
L457[08:58:36]
<ben_mkiv>
i'm reading about failure rates of 5900x/5950x and i'm
concerned
L458[08:58:54]
<Compec>
its prob rare
L459[08:59:00]
<Compec>
dont worry bout it
L460[08:59:05]
<Compec> if
u have the gpu
L461[08:59:25]
<ben_mkiv>
i don't need it to play
L462[08:59:45]
<Compec> i
get that
L463[08:59:54]
<ben_mkiv>
well, not only
L464[09:00:01]
<ben_mkiv>
not primary
L465[09:03:40]
<Michiyo>
@Kodos testing build 79 which may, or may not have a fix for camo
mag readers
L466[09:03:46]
<Michiyo>
if so neat! if not.. night!
L467[09:04:15]
<Michiyo>
ah.. it doesn't cancel the block place....
L468[09:04:27]
<Forecaster> so close
L470[09:06:35]
<Compec>
michiyo is open security developer?
L471[09:06:44]
<Forecaster> yes
L472[09:07:03]
<Forecaster> well, about once a year
L473[09:07:14]
<Michiyo>
Yeah, primary, ben_mkiv has done a lot of work though
L474[09:07:31]
<ben_mkiv>
i've done a lot of nonsense apparently
L475[09:08:10]
<Michiyo>
pffft
L476[09:08:43]
<Compec>
man if only i knew java
L477[09:08:47]
<Kodos> I
still want long range wireless networking a la BitNet
communications towers
L478[09:08:52]
<ben_mkiv>
then you could fix all the bugs in my mods
L479[09:08:55]
<Forecaster> the only way to know is to
do
L480[09:09:05]
<Kodos> Man
I cannot say it enough
L481[09:09:14]
<Kodos> If
I can learn enough Java to make two mods
L482[09:09:15]
<ben_mkiv>
and fulfill feature requests from kodos
L483[09:09:20]
<Kodos>
Anyone can
L484[09:09:33]
<Michiyo>
WHERE IS THIS 2nD BUILD COMING FROM
L485[09:09:36]
<Kodos> I’m
a fuckin moron
L486[09:09:38]
<ben_mkiv>
why do you make feature requests instead of PRs then?!?!?!
L487[09:10:05]
<Kodos>
Because yalls code is hard to work with and also because the last
mod I made was for 1.17
L488[09:10:10]
<Kodos> Err
1.7
L489[09:10:21]
<ben_mkiv>
how is that hard?
L490[09:10:27]
<Kodos> And
I cba
L491[09:10:37]
<Michiyo>
there, if build 80 doesn't do it fuck it
L492[09:10:57]
<Kodos> I
very much doubt fucking it will help but I shall endeavor to
try
L493[09:11:07]
<ben_mkiv>
you need my permit, too
L494[09:11:08]
<Michiyo>
build 80 doesn't fucking do it
L495[09:11:09]
<Michiyo>
so fuck it
L496[09:11:12]
<ben_mkiv>
dont
L497[09:11:28]
<ben_mkiv>
don't put your ... in crazy
L498[09:11:35]
<Kodos> I
have my permit one sec
L502[09:13:33]
<Kodos>
Anyway so the idea I had for long range networking is basically se
laser antennae
L503[09:13:33]
<Michiyo>
IDK man
L504[09:13:44]
<Michiyo>
Kodos build 80 DOES atleast let you camo the damn block
L505[09:13:49]
<Kodos>
K
L506[09:13:53]
<Michiyo>
you just have to break the block afterwards
L507[09:14:10]
<Michiyo>
cause it camos AND places it
L508[09:14:12]
<Kodos> Or
just stand in the block space in front of the reader so it doesn’t
place
L509[09:14:17]
<Michiyo>
yeah or that
L510[09:14:21]
<Michiyo>
was JUST about to type that
L511[09:14:23]
<ben_mkiv>
its a feature
L512[09:14:33]
<Kodos>
Feature™️
L513[09:14:40]
<ben_mkiv>
smart camo by michiyo
L514[09:14:52]
<Kodos>
Smart™️
L515[09:14:59]
<Michiyo>
shoot me
L517[09:15:28]
<Kodos>
There you’ve been (screen)shot
L518[09:16:02]
<Compec>
how learn java
L519[09:16:03]
<Compec>
how make minecraft mod
L520[09:16:35]
<Michiyo>
does this damn thing even work Kodos???
L521[09:16:40]
<Compec>
no
L522[09:16:41]
<Michiyo>
cause... it looks like I'm an idiot?
L523[09:16:49]
<Michiyo>
`ileEntitySecureDoor tile = (TileEntitySecureDoor)
world.getTileEntity(pos);`
L524[09:16:58]
<Kodos>
Well
L525[09:17:00]
<Compec>
ile
L526[09:17:02]
<Kodos>
Crazy thing
L527[09:17:17]
<Kodos> Why
does it say tile entity secure door if we are discussing a mag
reader
L528[09:17:21]
<ben_mkiv>
i was wondering about that, too
L529[09:17:25]
<Michiyo>
That's the question
L530[09:17:30]
<Michiyo>
that I'm asking
L531[09:17:51]
<ben_mkiv>
didn't you make a security door with integrated mag reader?
L532[09:17:53]
<Kodos> Let
me pop back over to the computer and see if calling toggle on it
flips it upside down
L533[09:17:54]
<Michiyo> I
did!
L534[09:17:55]
<ben_mkiv>
i thought thats somehow related
L535[09:18:43]
<Kodos>
Actually no I can’t be bothered trying to get off the couch now.
Stenosis finally won for tonight
L536[09:19:00]
<Michiyo>
I'm writing a card now
L537[09:19:39]
<Michiyo>
Well... THAT was a crash
L538[09:19:54]
<Michiyo>
`java.lang.ClassCastException:
pcl.opensecurity.common.tileentity.TileEntityMagReader cannot be
cast to
pcl.opensecurity.common.tileentity.TileEntitySecureDoor`
L539[09:19:59]
<Michiyo>
What fucking idiot wrote this shit?
L541[09:20:08]
<Compec>
you prob
L542[09:20:13]
<Compec>
not an insult
L543[09:20:44]
<Michiyo>
`CaitlynMainer TileEntityMagReader != TileEntitySecureDoor Today
you learned`
L544[09:21:24]
<Michiyo> I
really want to know where this 2nd build comes from
L545[09:21:37]
<Compec>
God
L546[09:23:12]
<ben_mkiv>
the whole method hurts my brain
L547[09:23:35]
<Forecaster> just place the block on the
side of the reader, placement and camo in one click,
efficient
L549[09:23:47]
<Michiyo>
damn it
L551[09:24:06]
<Michiyo>
there.
L552[09:24:08]
<Michiyo>
it works
L553[09:24:10]
<Michiyo>
no crash
L554[09:24:11]
<Compec>
where the fuck is your server list
L555[09:24:15]
<Compec> or
bar
L556[09:24:20]
<Michiyo>
top
L557[09:24:30]
<Forecaster> in the nullzone
L558[09:24:56] <Izaya> tabs, as they were
intended to be used
L560[09:25:54]
<Compec>
what do dat do
L562[09:26:06]
<ben_mkiv>
the whole if whatever shit is already handled above
L563[09:26:40]
<ben_mkiv>
actually
L564[09:27:05]
<Michiyo>
91 to 97 were literally slapped on like (at this point 10 commits
ago).. I didn't I didn't write any of it with that in mind
L566[09:27:31]
<Michiyo>
and when I added it, I didn't rewrite 99-109
L567[09:27:58]
<Michiyo>
91-97 were added STRICTLY to support main/off hand mag cards
L568[09:28:27]
<Michiyo>
Basically as a "This will do until I have time to come
back" and I've not REALLY had time to come back
L569[09:28:48]
<Michiyo> I
STILL don't... but here we are with me trying to throw more duct
tape on it until I can
L570[09:29:03]
<Michiyo>
via ya know.. gitweb since I don't even have a working dev env
right now
L571[09:29:03]
<Compec>
:neko:
L572[09:29:31]
<ben_mkiv>
wait what
L573[09:29:37]
<ben_mkiv>
this server has ONE emote and its a neko?
L574[09:29:44]
<Michiyo>
Yes.
L575[09:29:48]
<ben_mkiv>
xD
L576[09:30:17]
<Compec>
more nekos are needed
L577[09:30:30] <Izaya> but is it
oneko
L579[09:31:08]
<ben_mkiv>
wasn't that a desktop app years ago
L580[09:31:12]
<Compec>
ye
L581[09:31:13]
<ben_mkiv>
where that cat sat on the taskbar
L582[09:31:30] <Izaya> oneko follows the
cursor, nominally
L583[09:31:44]
<ben_mkiv>
oh right
L584[09:32:36]
<ben_mkiv>
if i had a 5950x now it would have been compiled before i pressed
enter
L585[09:32:47]
<Compec>
probably
L586[09:34:01]
<Compec>
compiling is even worse on my laptop
L587[09:34:20]
<ben_mkiv>
nice, it even rans across screens
L588[09:34:25]
<ben_mkiv>
nice, it even runs across screens [Edited]
L589[09:34:42]
<Compec>
ben
L590[09:34:42]
<Compec>
amd or ARM
L591[09:35:20]
<ben_mkiv>
arm is the german word for poor
L592[09:35:25]
<ben_mkiv>
so guess AMD
L593[09:35:48]
<Compec>
ok
L594[09:35:54]
<Compec> i
got a threadripper
L595[09:36:07] <Izaya> so is an armed
revolution naturally a lower-class thing
L596[09:36:10]
<ben_mkiv>
which generation?
L597[09:37:38]
<Compec>
1st
L598[09:37:39]
<Compec>
idk
L600[09:49:14]
<Michiyo>
Ok... disabled the Jenkins webhook... if a new build shows up on
Curseforge I'm going to be pissed.
L601[09:50:29]
<Michiyo>
ok..
L602[09:50:32]
<Michiyo>
no new build.
L603[09:55:13]
<Michiyo>
That makes no sense... it ONLY happens when I set the webhook
up
L604[09:56:02]
<Michiyo>
meh
L605[09:56:03]
<Michiyo>
night
L606[10:03:50]
<Forecaster> ghosts
L607[10:07:54]
<ben_mkiv>
%choice ECC or YOLO
L608[10:07:54] <MichiBot> ben_mkiv: I've
heard "ECC" is in these days
L610[10:10:08]
<ben_mkiv>
i think i should trust this cat
L611[10:11:12]
<ben_mkiv>
or wait, is that peanut butter and jelly?!
L612[10:11:32]
<Forecaster> yes?
L613[10:11:40]
<ben_mkiv>
ok, i don't trust this cat anymore
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L616[11:57:55] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER:
poke Alex into helping fix the ci runners so OT can be built
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L619[12:21:45]
<Forecaster> %sip
L620[12:21:45] <MichiBot> You drink a
thick lime potion (New!). Forecaster now has a mullet until they
eat a pie.
L621[12:21:50]
<Forecaster> ohno
L622[12:21:54]
<Forecaster> I need to find a pie
L623[12:31:12] <Amanda> I like how in one
of the factorio main screen simulations the tanks that run over all
the biters also destroy the factorio logo and the studio's
logo
L624[12:31:51]
<Compec>
%sip
L625[12:31:51] <MichiBot> You drink a soft
strawberry potion (New!). Compec feels slightly more agile.
L626[12:40:46]
<Vaur>
%tonk
L627[12:40:46] <MichiBot> Yeah! Vaur! You
beat Forecaster's previous record of 2 hours, 10 minutes and 53
seconds (By 3 hours, 25 minutes and 37 seconds)! I hope you're
happy!
L628[12:40:47] <MichiBot> Vaur's new
record is 5 hours, 36 minutes and 30 seconds! Vaur also gained
0.01029 (0.00343 x 3) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position
#2. Need 0.18118866 more points to pass Forecaster!
L629[13:10:10] <Amanda> %choose oil proc.
should make sulfur>
L630[13:10:10] <MichiBot> Amanda: Why
would you do that when you could do something else instead?
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L632[13:36:09]
<s_a_m> the
s in project wingman stands for salami
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L636[14:46:08] <Amanda> Does anyone know
of an option/mod to make these less verbose?
L638[14:51:33]
<Forecaster> I'm assuming it means
"restart the system to finish the installation", but it'd
be nice to actually know for sure...
L640[14:54:18]
<s_a_m>
:LappKEK:
L641[15:10:41] <Amanda> %choose move
everything up by one block or wait for the production to drain
first
L642[15:10:41] <MichiBot> Amanda:
Elementary dear Watson, "wait for the production to drain
first" is the obvious choice!
L643[15:10:57]
<Forecaster> she's not wrong
L644[15:57:44]
<Ocawesome101> hmm
L645[15:57:52]
<Ocawesome101> struggling with OCVM's
palette color weirdness
L646[16:07:31]
<Kodos>
What's weird about it
L647[16:14:11]
<Ocawesome101> it doesn't behave correctly
when setting palette colors
L648[16:15:19]
<Ocawesome101> these should be much more
vibrant; the blue bit is explicitly not set using palette colors,
but everything else is
https://tinyurl.com/yz9rehdg
L649[16:16:10]
<ThePiGuy24> oh yeah ocvm has colour
issues
L650[16:16:51]
<Ocawesome101> it only impacts the
palette, sadly
L651[16:16:56]
<Ocawesome101> well
L652[16:16:59]
<Ocawesome101> i guess it's
fortunate
L653[16:17:02]
<Ocawesome101> it's also really
annoying
L654[16:17:23]
<Ocawesome101> wait wait wait
L655[16:17:25]
<ThePiGuy24> all colours are
impacted
L656[16:17:28]
<Ocawesome101> really?
L657[16:17:31]
<Ocawesome101> i haven't noticed
L658[16:17:42]
<ThePiGuy24> it converts them all to 256
colour ansi
L659[16:17:49]
<ThePiGuy24> rather than full 24 bit
rgb
L660[16:17:59]
<Ocawesome101> shouldn't it do that for OC
compatibility's sake?
L661[16:18:08]
<ThePiGuy24> its a different pallete
L662[16:18:31]
<Ocawesome101> true
L663[16:18:43]
<Ocawesome101> it's probably because only
a handful of terminal emulators support 24-bit rgb
L664[16:19:20]
<ThePiGuy24> from experience, few
dont
L665[16:19:50]
<ThePiGuy24> even xterm supports them,
granted iirc it converts them back to 256 internally
L666[16:20:04]
<ThePiGuy24> and i think the ttys do the
same
L669[16:35:46]
<Ocawesome101> i have touched c++ about 2
times in my life prior to this
L670[16:43:02]
<Kodos>
What devilry is this
L671[16:43:56]
<Kodos>
Time to do my security stuff in Ocelot
L672[16:44:26]
<Forecaster> %zip
L673[16:44:39]
<Forecaster> %sip
L674[16:44:39] <MichiBot> You drink a
solid rock potion (New!). Forecaster now has a mullet until someone
stabs them.
L675[16:44:51]
<Forecaster> again with the mullet
D:<
L676[16:45:04]
<Ocawesome101> all i had to do was add a
generator for true-color ansi escapes, then pass around a
`ColorState` object a bunch
L677[16:45:26]
<Kodos>
Meanwhile I'm just over here with my colors helper
L679[16:52:26]
<Ocawesome101> lol
L680[16:54:27]
<Kodos>
~w
L681[16:54:28] <ocdoc> Hello, I'm #oc's
wiki bot.
L682[16:54:31]
<Kodos> Oh,
good, it's here
L683[16:54:33]
<Kodos> ~w
modem
L685[16:54:46]
<Kodos> ~w
rc
L687[16:55:47]
<Ocawesome101> ~markov kodos
L688[16:56:01]
<Ocawesome101> ...
L689[16:56:04]
<Ocawesome101> ~w
L690[16:56:04] <ocdoc> Hello, I'm #oc's
wiki bot.
L691[16:56:10]
<Kodos>
Markov is a michibot command
L692[16:56:19]
<Kodos>
%markov Ocawesome101
L693[16:56:19]
<Ocawesome101> ocdoc could do it too
L694[16:56:26]
<Kodos>
¯\(ツ)/¯
L695[16:56:31]
<Ocawesome101> ~markov Ocawesome101
L696[16:56:35]
<Ocawesome101> FORECASTER
L697[16:56:45]
<Forecaster> what?
L698[16:56:52]
<Ocawesome101> markov 🅱️roke
L699[16:57:05]
<Forecaster> I don't work on ocdoc
L700[16:57:09]
<Kodos>
That's gamax's department
L701[16:57:23]
<Kodos>
%seen gamax92
L702[16:57:24] <MichiBot> gamax92 was last
seen 281d 16h 55m 54s ago. Quitting
L703[16:57:30]
<Kodos> he
ded
L704[16:57:43]
<CyborgPotato> %tonk
L705[16:57:44] <MichiBot> I'm sorry
CyborgPotato, you were not able to beat Vaur's record of 5 hours,
36 minutes and 30 seconds this time. 4 hours, 16 minutes and 58
seconds were wasted! Missed by 1 hour, 19 minutes and 32
seconds!
L706[16:57:52]
<CyborgPotato> dern
L707[16:58:09]
<Kodos>
Okay, time to write a ping pong script to save for later as a
networking template
L708[16:58:15]
<Ocawesome101> i think gamax decided to
not be in the oc community anymore
L710[17:02:34]
<Ocawesome101> think so
L711[17:02:36]
<Kodos>
k
L713[17:04:38]
<Kodos> 😦
Ocelot doesn't have servers? Lame af
L714[17:09:59]
<Kodos> Uhh
what is HPM on Ocelot?
L715[17:10:31]
<Kodos> Oh,
it's a package manager
L716[17:10:32]
<Kodos>
Weird
L717[17:14:05]
<Ocawesome101> upm is better :^)
L718[17:14:09]
<Michiyo>
Yeah... markov broke when I had to move ocdoc, IDK how to fix it,
and gamax is gone
L719[17:14:11]
<Ocawesome101> (but, it doesn't work on
OpenOS)
L720[17:14:22]
<Michiyo>
and MichiBot never had a markov
L721[17:15:09]
<Kodos>
Ocelot has weird color nodes on the Relay
L722[17:15:14]
<Kodos> Not
sure what those are supposed to be
L723[17:16:18]
<Michiyo>
Man.... swappable headset batteries is neat.
L724[17:16:51]
<Ocawesome101> not needing headset
batteries is neater
L725[17:17:03]
<Michiyo>
Not being tethered to my computer is even neater.
L726[17:17:45]
<Forecaster> I get up and go to the
kitchen all the time while continuing listening to whatever video
I'm watching and it's great
L727[17:18:09]
<Michiyo> I
work from home, and am on the phone some times all day. The fact
that I can use my headset for my work calls AND my cell phone is
quiet nice.
L728[17:18:21]
<Kodos> How
high do port numbers go
L729[17:18:25]
<Kodos> Or
can I just open whatever
L730[17:18:27]
<Michiyo>
at least 2
L731[17:18:30]
<Kodos> No,
like
L732[17:18:34]
<Michiyo> I
think I made it to 3 once.
L733[17:18:37]
<Kodos>
...
L734[17:18:41]
<Michiyo>
:D
L735[17:18:43]
<Michiyo>
You love me.
L736[17:18:46]
<Kodos> I
do
L737[17:18:48]
<Forecaster> it's like 25k or
something
L738[17:18:57]
<Kodos> So
not like... 7 digits
L739[17:18:57]
<Forecaster> I think...
L740[17:19:03]
<Forecaster> no
L741[17:19:06]
<MGR> I
think it's 65k
L742[17:19:09]
<Kodos>
Definitely not assigning DTMF words to my ports or anything
L743[17:19:21]
<Michiyo>
see if 4 works.
L744[17:19:28]
<Kodos> 4
does indeed work
L745[17:19:30]
<Michiyo>
\o/
L746[17:19:34]
<Michiyo>
lol I'm sorry
L747[17:19:39]
<Kodos>
Lol
L748[17:19:49]
<Michiyo>
It's one of those days.
L749[17:20:03]
<Michiyo> I
have to be a smart ass or I'd just cry
L750[17:20:05]
<Forecaster> rofl
L751[17:20:13]
<Kodos>
Okay, so my limit is pretty much 4 digits
L752[17:20:15]
<Kodos>
Hmm
L753[17:20:45]
<Kodos>
Izaya on the off chance you read this, mind linking me to that
predetermined port thingy I asked for before
L754[17:20:46]
<Forecaster> wait, 25k/65k is seven
digits
L755[17:21:02]
<Kodos> How
do you figure
L756[17:21:11]
<Forecaster> or wait, no, I'm dumb,
nevermind
L757[17:21:15]
<Kodos>
Lmao
L758[17:21:21]
<Kodos>
65534 = 5 digits
L759[17:21:36]
<Michiyo>
It's 6 if you include the comma!
L760[17:21:46]
<Kodos> I
do include the comma, but the modem does not
L761[17:21:54]
<Michiyo> 7
if you make it a singed int!
L762[17:22:03]
<Forecaster> for some reason my brain was
going 25k = 25 + 25000 = 7 digits
L763[17:22:15]
<Kodos>
Look lady I'm just trying to dial CASHNOW on my modem okay
L764[17:22:20]
<Michiyo>
+65,534 Boom!
L765[17:22:22]
<Kodos>
It's my money and I need it now
L766[17:22:48]
<Michiyo>
CALL J G WENTWORTH 877 CASHNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
L767[17:23:19]
<Michiyo>
IF YOU HAVE A STRUCTURED SETTLEMENT AND YOU NEED CASH
NOOOOOOW
L769[17:23:20]
<Michiyo>
anyway
L770[17:23:29]
<Forecaster> wait is this one of them
scams?
L771[17:23:32]
<Kodos>
No
L772[17:23:35]
<Michiyo>
EHHHHH
L773[17:23:36]
<Michiyo>
Kinda
L774[17:23:37]
<Kodos>
It's a TV commercial here in the states
L775[17:23:41]
<Michiyo>
It's KIIIINDA a scam
L776[17:23:48]
<Kodos>
It's a loan with ridiculous interest
L777[17:23:52]
<Kodos> So
yes?
L778[17:23:55]
<Forecaster> like when I keep getting
emails telling me my apple account I don't have has been
suspended
L779[17:23:59]
<Michiyo>
They take a large chunk of a court settlement, and then give you a
portion of it all at once.
L780[17:24:01]
<Michiyo>
so yeah.
L781[17:24:18]
<Michiyo>
It's CRAZY high interest... lol
L782[17:24:24]
<Kodos>
Something like 40% isn't it?
L783[17:24:49]
<Michiyo>
Yeah, IIRC if your settlement was like 1 million over 10 years, you
got like 400k NOW and they got the rest.
L784[17:25:05]
<Michiyo>
something to that effect anyway
L785[17:25:23]
<Kodos>
indeed. Never really worth it unless you're in a serious bind
L786[17:25:26]
<Kodos>
Anyway
L787[17:26:00]
<Kodos> Can
I pass more than one character to gpu.set
L788[17:26:17]
<Forecaster> why is everyone's assortment
of bolts around here so bad... :|
L789[17:26:27]
<Kodos>
Bolts? Are you on Starbase
L790[17:26:34]
<Forecaster> >Kodos: Can I pass more
than one character to gpu.s…
L791[17:26:35]
<Forecaster> yes
L792[17:26:46]
<Forecaster> no, I'm talking about real
life
L793[17:27:28]
<Forecaster> I need a specific size bolt,
washers and wing-nuts
L794[17:27:46]
<Forecaster> and stores seem to have
either wing nuts, but not the bold size I need, or the other way
around
L795[17:27:51]
<Forecaster> and I hate it :|
L796[17:28:18]
<Forecaster> online stores
L797[17:28:54]
<Forecaster> I'll probably just go back to
the hardware store tomorrow and get the half-threaded ones that are
long enough, because screw it
L798[17:29:08]
<Forecaster> I wanted full-threaded ones
because they're more versatile but whatever
L799[17:30:19]
<Michiyo>
heh.. screw it.
L800[17:30:44]
<Forecaster> I mean, bolt it.
L801[17:30:50]
<Michiyo>
lol
L804[17:45:19]
<Kodos>
Well what the shit, Ocelot, why won't you work right
L805[17:45:51]
<Kodos> My
usual way of cleanly exiting a program is to use the key_up event
of hitting spacebar, but it's not working in Ocelot for some
reason
L806[17:46:04]
<Ocawesome101> odd
L808[17:46:12]
<Kodos>
Cheers
L810[17:49:41] <Izaya> communism wins
again
L811[17:50:15]
<Kodos>
What is that
L812[17:50:18]
<Forecaster> Comwinism?
L813[17:50:27] <Izaya> the stellaris
victory screen :D
L814[17:50:58]
<Kodos> Ah
Stellaris, that explains the unfamiliarity
L815[17:54:56]
<Kodos>
Guess I'll take 9999 for all my shit, Izaya, and I'll just sort out
sorting out what's what within the confines of code
L816[17:56:49]
<Kodos> Is
there a standard-accepted port for wake on lan use, and does it
require the port to be opened beforehand
L817[17:58:21] <Izaya> the wolbeacon
program in the minitel repo uses port 3442 by default
L818[17:58:26] <Izaya> IIRC that was
chosen at random
L819[17:58:34] <Izaya> and no, doesn't
need to be open
L820[17:58:41] <Izaya> can't be open
without power
L821[17:59:14]
<Kodos>
Fair
L822[17:59:15]
<Kodos>
Okay, cool
L823[17:59:56]
<Kodos> Hol
up, since when is lshw a thing, or is that ocelot only
L824[18:06:24]
<Ocawesome101> been a thing for a long
time
L825[18:06:35]
<Ocawesome101> or at least since
`computer.getDeviceInfo` was added
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<Kodos> I
wonder if I could change what that ends up saying
L828[18:30:42]
<Kodos> I
mean, I'm sure it's stored somewhere
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L830[19:06:54]
<Kodos>
There we go
L831[19:07:08]
<Kodos>
Managed to iHeartRadio's W10 app to play louder than my web browser
was doing it
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L836[19:26:13]
<Kodos> Is
anything obvious jumping out at anyone as to why this would lock up
Ocelot and not let me use space to break out of it
L837[19:26:16]
<Kodos>
Holy shit, no
L838[19:26:25]
<Kodos>
That wall of text was not my intention
L840[19:26:56]
<Kodos>
There we go
L841[19:29:40]
<Kodos>
Okay, anything obvious in that (Aside from the missing modem.open I
just fixed) that would lock up a computer or at least prevent the
spacebar from working
L842[19:34:20]
<Ocawesome101> first and most obvious
things i notice is all your functions should be local @Kodos
L843[19:34:26]
<Ocawesome101> first and most obvious
thing i notice is all your functions should be local @Kodos
[Edited]
L844[19:34:48]
<Ocawesome101> at least `genMessage` and
`unknownEvent`
L845[19:34:53]
<Kodos>
Mkay
L846[19:34:58]
<Ocawesome101> and `handleEvent`
L847[19:34:59]
<Kodos> Do
you think that's breaking ocelot?
L848[19:35:07]
<Kodos> I
just localized all of them because consistency
L849[19:35:27]
<Ocawesome101> `local function tab.func`
is invalid syntax
L850[19:35:36]
<Ocawesome101> `tab` is already
local
L851[19:36:00]
<Kodos>
Okay, so the eventhandling specific functions can be
L852[19:36:04]
<Kodos>
regular*
L853[19:38:37]
<Ocawesome101> i don't see anything in
that code that particularly irks me
L854[19:38:53]
<Ocawesome101> however, you should be
using event listeners and listening for the `interrupted` event to
exit
L855[19:40:23]
<Kodos>
Honestly, I took this straight off the wiki ages ago, and have been
adapting it to my programs since
L856[19:40:41]
<Ocawesome101> i see
L857[19:40:50]
<Ocawesome101> ~w event
L859[19:41:16]
<Kodos> The
general purpose one iirc
L860[19:41:41]
<Kodos>
That's been the backbone of like 75% of the things I write
lol
L862[19:42:07]
<Michiyo>
This seems safe.
L863[19:42:29]
<Forecaster> well, as long as you don't
touch them
L864[19:42:35]
<Michiyo>
...
L865[19:42:41]
<Forecaster> :D
L866[19:42:46]
<Michiyo>
Just.. no
L867[19:42:53]
<Forecaster> don't juggle metal things in
that room
L868[19:43:00]
<Forecaster> or pets
L869[19:43:22]
<Michiyo>
Wood can conduct electricity as well.. lol
L870[19:43:45]
<Forecaster> anything can conduct
electricity if there's enough of it
L871[19:58:10]
<Kodos>
Where are the globals set at? init.lua right?
L872[19:58:27]
<Ocawesome101> which globals?
L873[19:58:52]
<Ocawesome101> `_OSVERSION` is set in
`/lib/core/boot.lua`
L874[20:04:17]
<Kodos>
Yeah, I'm tinkering with the OS stuff l mao
L875[20:04:19]
<Kodos>
Yeah, I'm tinkering with the OS stuff lmao [Edited]
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L877[20:13:38]
<ben_mkiv>
does wood really? or is it rather the fact that wood isn't always
dry
L878[20:15:22]
<Forecaster> if you run enough current
through dry wood it will burn through the wood creating a lightning
pattern
L879[20:15:55]
<ben_mkiv>
oh right, i remember some videos of that where they used that to
create furniture 😄
L880[20:17:42]
<Forecaster> oh, I guess they coat the
wood in epoxy before burning, I guess that might be required
L881[20:18:09]
<Forecaster> (unless you want to use
insane amounts of power)
L883[20:19:33] <MichiBot>
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L884[20:20:28]
<Forecaster> in the videos I watched they
coated the wood in something before burning it, presumably to get
the wood to conduct better
L885[20:20:52]
<Forecaster> and possibly to reduce the
current required
L886[20:20:59]
<ben_mkiv>
but wouldn't it just burn the coating away then? if the coating is
more conductive
L888[20:22:06] <MichiBot>
Lichtenberg
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L889[20:23:54]
<ben_mkiv>
yea kinda makes sense, so the coating gets soaked up by the wood a
bit
L890[20:24:36]
<ben_mkiv>
so once the coat is gone, the lowest resistance is on the top layer
of the wood
L892[20:39:41]
<BrisingrAerowing> Hahahahaha!
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<Michiyo>
GOD. DAMN. IT.
L896[20:40:48]
<Michiyo>
Right... this is why I hate devving OpenSec... lol
L898[20:41:42]
<Kodos>
Because you double download mods?
L899[20:41:48]
<Michiyo>
....
L900[20:41:53]
<Michiyo>
yeah that's the issue.
L901[20:41:55]
<Michiyo>
clearly
L902[20:42:18]
<Michiyo>
No. the issue is that there are 2 deps that both ALSO dep on
different versions of JEI
L903[20:42:26]
<Michiyo>
and it can't cleanly support that
L904[20:42:54]
<Michiyo>
But yeah, no.. I just downloaded the same mod twice.
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L909[20:49:09] <Amanda> %choose factory or
something else
L910[20:49:09] <MichiBot> Amanda: Is it a
bird?! Is it a plane?! No! It's "factory"!
L911[20:55:14]
<Vaur> the
factory must grow ?!
L912[20:55:33] <Amanda> my drones shall
blot out the sun!
L913[20:57:53]
<Vaur> I
haven't played factorio in a while ngl
L914[20:59:15]
<Vaur> last
played 20th of july according to steam
L915[21:01:38]
<Kodos> Not
counting the other day when I misclicked play, the last time I
played Factorio was when nuclear reactors hit vanilla
L916[21:02:18] <Amanda> argh, wiring will
be the death of me
L917[21:02:32]
<Vaur> damn
... not even got to enjoy the spiders goodness ? that's sad
L918[21:02:46] <Amanda> Just found why
stone bricks aren't being made in the smeltery outpost, missed a
red wire!
L919[21:02:58]
<Vaur>
rip
L920[21:03:16] <Amanda> explains why the
LTN depot logistics have been stuffed full of stone though
L921[21:03:25]
<Vaur> why
are you using smarts for your outposts though ?
L922[21:04:15] <Amanda> LTN control
signals
L923[21:04:32]
<Vaur> LTN
?
L924[21:06:30]
<Michiyo>
Man, I remember when OpenSec's only dep was OC...
L925[21:06:35]
<Michiyo>
It was so nice.
L926[21:07:01] <Amanda> @Vaur Logistics
Train Network -- mod to move items smartlly across rails
L927[21:07:13]
<Vaur> ah I
see
L928[21:07:44]
<Vaur> I
think I've seen such mod being used in one of JD's series
L929[21:12:24]
<Kodos> I
haven't used mods in ages on that game, but I also can't be arsed
playing solo, plus I'd rather be in Satisfactory since it's FP and
not topdown
L930[21:28:03]
<Z0idberg>
This whole guilded.gg thing is going to be interesting
L931[21:28:28]
<Kodos>
Isn't guilded just ripping off Discord at this point? Or which came
first
L932[21:28:35]
<Ashirg>
%sip
L933[21:28:35] <MichiBot> You drink an
oxidised quicksilver potion (New!). A bird flies past that vaguely
resembles someone Ashirg knows.
L934[21:28:39]
<Kodos> I
seen they recently got Message Replies
L935[21:28:42]
<Kodos>
Which made me laugh
L936[21:28:50]
<Ashirg>
%tonkout
L937[21:28:51] <MichiBot> I'm sorry
Ashirg, you were not able to beat Vaur's record of 5 hours, 36
minutes and 30 seconds this time. 4 hours, 31 minutes and 6 seconds
were wasted! Missed by 1 hour, 5 minutes and 24 seconds!
L938[21:29:02]
<Ashirg>
Agh
L939[21:29:12]
<Forecaster> Guilded existed first, but
they've since taken a lot of... inspiration from Discord
L940[21:29:31]
<Forecaster> since Discord gained
popularity
L941[21:30:09]
<Z0idberg>
I really like some of the things guilded.gg does, but its biggest
flaw is that it will in no way be able to scale like Discord has,
Discord is as performant and scalable as it is because of a huge
ammount of research and very careful implementation. There's a
reason they use Elixir and Cassandra.
L942[21:30:34]
<Z0idberg>
I bet you that if everyone left Discord today and joined guilded
actively it would literally Denial of Service guilded.gg
L943[21:31:14]
<Michiyo>
Fuck guilded.
L944[21:31:17]
<Michiyo>
k. thx
L945[21:31:42]
<Z0idberg>
It's kinda bad though because it means that in order to replace
Discord you would literally have to beat it with features, not
performance.
L946[21:38:27]
<Michiyo>
>Forecaster: Guilded existed first, but they've since…
L947[21:38:28]
<Michiyo>
Wait... you said Guilded existed first...? I know I know Wikipedia
is shit, but... I can't find much else. They list first release as
`Initial release March 17, 2017; 4 years ago`
L948[21:38:36]
<Michiyo>
and discord is `Initial release May 13, 2015; 6 years ago`
L949[21:40:03]
<Forecaster> oh, I thought I read a while
ago that guilded came around first
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L951[21:40:47]
<Forecaster> maybe I did but it was wrong,
I dunno
L952[21:41:21]
<Z0idberg>
I just wish we had something like discord with the performance it
has without the nasty people behind it
L953[21:41:39]
<Michiyo>
And you think guilded is better?
L954[21:41:41]
<Michiyo>
k
L955[21:41:47]
<Z0idberg>
No.
L956[21:42:04]
<Z0idberg>
I am arguing from a generic "place competitor here" point
of view
L957[21:42:15]
<Z0idberg>
could be anything
L958[21:43:23]
<Z0idberg>
I just think it would be very difficult to beat discord, at this
point until some new breakthrough happens
L959[21:44:28]
<Ashirg>
~~We should make one ourselves, totally a good idea~~
L960[21:45:27]
<Z0idberg>
Unrelated, I have been thinking about ideas to create a webtorrent
& activitypub based live streaming application. Thoughts?
L961[21:45:29]
<Michiyo>
Ya know.. I just had a whole big thing typed up.. but fuck it. I'm
not starting ANOTHER argument on this.
L962[21:45:31]
<Michiyo>
I'm out.
L963[21:47:03]
<Z0idberg>
Aww
L964[21:47:09]
<Z0idberg>
Michiyo is smart, I like to hear what they say
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<Forecaster> she said "fuck
it"
L967[21:47:26]
<Forecaster> :P
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L969[21:57:43]
<Kodos>
Does OC or adons have any functions that can retrieve a player's
UUID
L970[21:57:47]
<Kodos>
Does OC or addons have any functions that can retrieve a player's
UUID [Edited]
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L973[21:58:06]
<SoraFirestorm> honestly we just need to
start moving to federated shit
L974[21:58:12]
<Forecaster> retrieve how?
L975[21:58:41]
<Kodos> I
want to be able to select an online user from a list generated via
some sort of block that already exists, e.g. motion sensor, and
then have the computer store that player's UUID in a file for
something like the biometric reader
L976[21:58:50]
<Kodos> Or
whatever, without needing the reader or whatever
L977[21:58:57]
<Kristopher38> i'm wondering why OC 1.7.10
builds on the build server haven't been restored yet
L978[21:59:05]
<Kodos>
Because we don't support 1.7.10
L979[21:59:07]
<Kodos>
IIRC
L980[21:59:22]
<Kodos> Not
since 1.7 I thought, but hell I could be wrong
L981[21:59:40]
<SoraFirestorm> the problem being that
it's really hard to monetize federated stuff so no one really wants
to do it
L982[21:59:40]
<Forecaster> I think OpenSec can be
configured to get uuids instead of usernames
L983[22:00:07]
<Kristopher38> it's not that OC isn't
supported on 1.7.10 because it is, it's master branch
L984[22:00:25]
<Kristopher38> it's just that the builds
for that version disappeared from the build server
L985[22:01:29]
<Michiyo>
@Sangar Looks like CI is missing MC builds older that 1.12 for
OpenComputers, intentional?
L986[22:01:38]
<Michiyo>
There, maybe he'll see it
L987[22:01:52]
<Kodos> I
don't see a config to use UUIDs instead of names
L988[22:02:01]
<Kodos> OC
doesn't seem to either
L989[22:02:02]
<Michiyo>
there IS a 1.7 1.7.10 build on CF so it IS supported
L990[22:02:09]
<Kodos>
Fair point
L991[22:02:23]
<Kodos> But
there's a 1.12 version of IE on CF, too, and Blu tells you to fuck
right off if you ask for help with a bug
L992[22:02:27]
<Forecaster> OC had some setting to stop
providing usernames when you interact with a screen
L993[22:02:34]
<Forecaster> but I think it just gives you
nothing instead
L994[22:02:42]
<SoraFirestorm> That setting just gives
you nothing
L995[22:03:01]
<Kodos>
Alrighty, then I shall google how the UUID API works, and do
internet requests
L996[22:03:18]
<Forecaster> it's pretty simple if I
recall correctly
L998[22:04:40]
<Michiyo>
@Kodos
L999[22:04:59]
<Kodos>
Cheers
L1000[22:05:25]
<Michiyo> %mcstatus
L1001[22:05:25]
<Kodos>
~w internet
L1003[22:05:29]
<Michiyo> huh
L1004[22:05:30]
<Michiyo> neat
L1005[22:05:36] <Corded> *
<Michiyo> shoots MichiBot
L1006[22:12:01]
<Forecaster> %sip
L1007[22:12:01] <MichiBot> You drink a
liquid violet potion (New!). A sudden craving for soup occupies
Forecaster's thoughts until they have an apple.
L1008[22:12:17]
<Forecaster> I don't have any soup
:|
L1009[22:13:02]
<Michiyo> NO SOUP FOR YOU
L1010[22:14:55]
<Forecaster> I don't have apples either
D:
L1011[22:16:08]
<Kodos>
Here's a dumb question
L1012[22:16:19]
<Kodos>
How come when I mount a floppy's /mnt folder to /disk, and copy
files to disk, it doesn't write to the actual floppy
L1013[22:16:20] <Amanda> here's a stupid
answer
L1014[22:17:43] <Amanda> ( I started
typing that before your question was sent )
L1015[22:17:59]
<Kodos>
Oh, wait, I'm an idiot
L1016[22:18:06]
<Kodos>
Helps if I use the right mnt folder
L1017[22:19:41]
<Kodos>
Hokay, now to figure out how to make a floppy set up for using
install
L1018[22:21:38]
<Kodos>
That was easy. man install lmao
L1020[22:22:08] <MichiBot> Tue Sep 07
07:04:37 UTC 2021 @xeleh: Unity patents "Methods and
apparatuses to improve the performance of a video game engine using
an Entity Component… <
https://t.co/za8XSyGq0f>
L1021[22:22:10]
<s_a_m>
pain
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L1023[23:01:41] <dequbed> Unrelated
but:
L1024[23:01:46] <dequbed>
GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
L1025[23:03:36] <dequbed> Well anyway
after having to implement Kerberos by hand because there's
literally no library thats compatible that can provides GSSAPI I
can now finally use this LDAP library that *insists* on parsing
whole SASL exchanges instead of using an SASL library.
L1026[23:04:14]
<MR_SPᐰGETTY> does anyone have an easy way
to mirror 2 screens no matter whats on the screen
L1027[23:04:22] <Amanda> ah, so that's
what you meant by so much bad code
L1028[23:04:24] <dequbed> Zero points for
guessing which programming language is this level of completely and
utterly broken while being this popular
L1029[23:04:55] <Amanda>
python/ruby?
L1030[23:05:13] <dequbed> Fuck no, both
of those come with *excellent* GSSAPI libraries.
L1031[23:07:14]
<Kodos>
Easy? No
L1032[23:20:06]
<Michiyo> Umm hey @Kodos Was the UUID
provided by the Biometric scanner not what you needed? Or where you
looking to scan for UUIDs without interacction?
L1034[23:23:29]
<Kodos>
As far as I can tell, the biometric reader is the only block you
have that uses the UUID
L1035[23:23:42]
<Kodos>
Also as for that bug, let me clarify
L1036[23:24:43]
<Kodos>
Expected behavior: When you right click the face with the square
'reader' on it, your arm swings, no other side triggers this.
L1037[23:24:43]
<Kodos>
Actual behavior: When you right click the block, the side that
makes your arm swing is random each time you place the block, and
hardly if ever on the side the 'reader' is on
L1038[23:26:25]
<Michiyo> And yes, the biometric reader is
the only one that does, and really it shouldn';t
L1039[23:26:39]
<Michiyo> I'm not going to change it at
this point, but it shouldn't
L1040[23:28:45]
<Kodos>
I wonder if there's a way to 'generate' a uuid easily
L1041[23:28:51]
<Michiyo> Where?
L1042[23:28:54]
<Kodos>
In code
L1043[23:28:58]
<Michiyo> Where?
L1044[23:29:01]
<Kodos>
Lua
L1045[23:29:05]
<Kodos>
On an OC Computer
L1047[23:29:18]
<Michiyo> maybe? lol
L1048[23:29:24]
<Michiyo> it's "random" :P
L1049[23:29:25]
<Kodos>
Why the 4
L1050[23:29:26]
<Kodos>
Weird
L1051[23:29:39]
<Michiyo> But yes, I've seen UUID in
lua
L1052[23:30:00]
<Michiyo> (I wouldn't actually use that)
lol
L1053[23:32:42]
<Kodos>
Eh I'm gonna but not for anything important
L1054[23:32:56]
<Kodos>
Actually
L1055[23:33:00]
<Kodos>
No, I don't want/need UUID
L1056[23:33:20]
<Kodos>
I should just straight up do hashed passwords now and be done with
it, instead of overhauling it later
L1057[23:45:49]
<Kristopher38> iirc OpenOS has uuid
library