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<Kristopher38> @Forecaster right, I knew
I've seen it somewhere
L2[00:03:14]
<Ocawesome101> ben_mkiv: window managers
that tile windows
L3[00:03:22]
<Ocawesome101> rather than having them
overlap
L4[00:03:47] <ben_mkiv> which WM does
that?
L5[00:05:17] <ben_mkiv> oh, the ones izaya
mentioned... seem to
L6[00:06:27] <Amanda> there's several
L7[00:06:39] <Amanda> including plugins for,
eg, GNOME Shell for it
L8[00:07:23] <ben_mkiv> yea, i liked that
feature in the WM thing which mutter afaik forked
L9[00:07:46] <Izaya> do note that tiling and
snapping are distinct
L10[00:07:47] <ben_mkiv> but mutter at
least supports split view to align a window on the left or right of
the screen, which is good enough
L11[00:07:58] <Izaya> tiling is typically
automatic, whereas snapping is manual
L12[00:08:44] <ben_mkiv> now, i wonder
which WM i meant... compiz?
L13[00:08:57] <ben_mkiv> yea thats the
one
L14[00:09:52] <ben_mkiv> and mutter seems
to not be a fork of compiz, they're just both compositing WMs
L15[00:12:22] <Izaya> I wonder if anyone
will sell me an "xorg is my compositor" bumper sticker or
if I'll have to make my own
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L18[00:17:43]
<Michiyo>
So.. annoyingly, Windows 10 is installed on my nvme drive, system
is UEFI/GPT. my Xubuntu install is on a SATA SSD, and looks like
it's..... UEFI unaware??? IDK.... it doesn't give me a grub menu on
boot so I can't just set it as my boot device, I can't reinstall
grub on the NVM drive cause it can't speak UEFI.. and my FUCKING
CORSAIR K70 DOESN'T INITIALIZE in time for me to hit DEL / F2 to
get int osetup to overide the damn boot sequenc
L19[00:17:43]
<Michiyo>
boot linux if I want.. so I have to tell windows to reboot into
UEFI setup, clicck through 3 prompts, get to that -> boot
options -> SATA6G2 select select and then boot it >>
L20[00:18:31] <ben_mkiv> lmao
L21[00:18:37] <ben_mkiv> your keyboard is
too slow? xD
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L23[00:19:02]
<Michiyo>
Yeah.. I ended up having to dig ANOTHER damn keyboard out to hit
DEL....
L24[00:19:03]
<Michiyo>
lol
L25[00:19:43] <Izaya> Michiyo: did you
install windows after linux?
L26[00:19:48]
<Michiyo>
no
L27[00:19:59] <Izaya> did you install linux
in BIOS mode?
L28[00:20:05]
<Michiyo>
I... guess?
L29[00:20:33] <Izaya> I'm pretty sure you
can't chainload to UEFI from the CSM so x_x
L30[00:20:36] <Izaya> rEFInd?
L31[00:22:51]
<Michiyo> I
have NO clue what that is... :D lmao
L32[00:23:38] <Izaya> rEFInd is a UEFI boot
menu
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L34[00:26:41]
<Michiyo>
Eh, haven't done a lot.. might just see if I can get the damn thing
to install in uefi mode
L35[00:26:47]
<Michiyo>
no idea why it didn't in the first place.
L36[00:27:02] <ben_mkiv> and then you can
boot windows from grub?
L37[00:27:18] <Izaya> usually stuff will
install to match the way you boot the installer
L38[00:27:29] <Izaya> so if you want to
make sure it boots in UEFI mode, turn off the CSM when you do the
install
L39[00:27:30] <ben_mkiv> i haven't messed
with the UEFI crap yet, so im curious if it wouldn't complain
L40[00:27:53] <Izaya> on a semi-related
note
L41[00:28:32] <Izaya> is anyone able to
confirm or deny the secure boot requirement for windows 11? it's
listed in the requirements but I don't know if that means it has to
be available or it has to be turned on
L42[00:29:01]
<Michiyo>
It has to be on if you use an unmodified installer afaict
L43[00:29:10] <Izaya> but after it's
installed?
L44[00:29:13] <ben_mkiv> oh, i might have
messed that up, thought UEFI always comes with secure boot
stuff
L45[00:29:26] <Izaya> (if it's the latter,
lmao, what a pain, you can't sign the windows bootloader with your
own key so you'd have to turn off secure boot every time you wanted
to boot anything else, or else completely invalidate the security
model of secure boot)
L46[00:29:50] <Izaya> I'm not sure if UEFI
mandates secure boot, but plain EFI doesn't
L48[00:30:48]
<Michiyo>
That seems like... a headache. Trying to turn off csm
L49[00:31:15]
<s_a_m>
wtf
L50[00:31:41] *
Izaya squints
L51[00:31:46] <Izaya> what the fuck does
that mean
L52[00:32:22]
<Michiyo>
Also... i dont seem to HAVE an option to uefi boot my usb
drive
L53[00:32:22] <Izaya> oh, I think it's
saying you have to make sure the drivers are installed on the C:
drive? ???
L54[00:32:50]
<Michiyo>
Which is where the xubuntu installer is
L55[00:33:02] <Izaya> did you dd it to the
flash drive unmodified?
L56[00:33:24]
<Michiyo> I
used rufus
L57[00:33:37]
<Michiyo>
Wait
L58[00:33:39]
<Michiyo>
Im blind
L59[00:33:42]
<Michiyo>
Fmfl
L60[00:34:23] <Izaya> spotted a UEFI:
<flash drive name> boot option? :p
L61[00:34:23]
<Michiyo> I
blame the migrane medication
L62[00:34:28]
<Michiyo>
Yes..
L63[00:35:01]
<Michiyo>
It AND the sata ssd are both just labled SANDISK
L64[00:35:09]
<Michiyo>
One is just.... much bigger
L65[00:35:25] <Izaya> ... :D
L66[00:35:49]
<Michiyo>
By about an extra 0
L67[00:35:57]
<Michiyo>
So easy to miss
L68[00:36:28]
<Michiyo>
32gb vs 320gb
L69[00:36:55] <Izaya> bug SSD
L70[00:36:58] <Izaya> s/u/i/
L71[00:36:58] <MichiBot> <Izaya> big
SSD
L72[00:37:15] <Izaya> speaking of big
SSDs
L73[00:37:30]
<Michiyo>
The nvme i replaced it with is 1tb
L74[00:37:32] <Izaya> a 4TB SATA SSD is
roughly the same price as the cheapest non-SMR 2TB HDD I can buy
locally
L75[00:37:52] <Izaya> either option sets me
back like a lot of money >.>
L76[00:40:02]
<Michiyo>
Ok... well... lets hope i didnt just fuck uo and break 2 oses
L77[00:44:24] <ben_mkiv> does the migrane
medication also make you feel like you've been another person few
days after you took it?
L78[00:46:29]
<Michiyo>
Hmm... im not sure. I do know it effects mood... it also kinda
makes me dumb for a few days / week until i get used to it
L79[00:46:34]
<Michiyo>
The mental fog sucks
L80[00:46:46]
<Michiyo>
Gotta go get pizza
L81[00:47:08]
<Michiyo>
Oh.. neat! Grub menu shows up now
L82[00:47:20]
<Michiyo>
Un neat.... keyboard doesnt work in grub
L83[00:47:55]
<Michiyo>
Unable to select other boot option...
L84[00:49:14] <ben_mkiv> yea, the dumb part
is probably it
L85[00:50:16] <ben_mkiv> makes me kinda
lethargic
L86[00:50:51] <ben_mkiv> well, not that im
not dumb without it either, it's just dumb + 1
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L88[01:24:36] <NoHaxJustBad12> hi
L89[01:24:39] <NoHaxJustBad12> how is
everyone
L90[01:26:11] <NoHaxJustBad12> non
esxistant
L91[01:26:13] <NoHaxJustBad12> got it
L92[01:26:42]
<s_a_m>
maybe if we don't say anything, they'll leave after 13 seconds like
everyone else
L93[01:26:52] <ben_mkiv> that's the
plan^
L94[01:26:57]
<NoHaxJustBad12> oh i left and joined my
own channel
L95[01:30:24] <Amanda> With blackjack! And
scritchies!
L96[01:30:58] <NoHaxJustBad12> ok
L97[01:30:59] <NoHaxJustBad12> so
L98[01:31:12] <NoHaxJustBad12> ok bye
L99[01:31:14] <ben_mkiv> i have my own
channel with fox- and catgirls
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L101[01:31:25] <ben_mkiv> and pizza
L102[01:32:10]
<s_a_m> all
prisoners of war will be treated in accordance with international
law
L103[01:32:13]
<s_a_m> we
even brought pizza
L104[01:36:31] <Amanda> %choose em or
pressure; waves
L105[01:36:31] <MichiBot> Amanda: waves
em or pressure
L106[01:36:34] <Amanda> ... oops
L107[01:36:42] <Amanda> %choose waves; em
or pressure
L108[01:36:42] <MichiBot> Amanda: em
waves
L110[01:39:27] <Amanda> ... I wonder of
the KSP runways actually follow the numbering scheme for
runways.
L111[01:39:41] <Amanda> ( Heading / 10
)
L112[01:40:06] <Izaya> so east should be
... 9?
L113[01:40:18] <Amanda> yup
L114[01:40:34] <Izaya> what if you have
multiple parallel runways
L115[01:40:44] <Amanda> A, B, ...
L116[01:40:53] <Izaya> makes sense
L117[01:41:30] <Amanda> I'm sure there's a
fixed order for that, but I don't know it. I only barely managed to
corral my thoughts into remembering it's heading / 10
L118[01:41:51] <Izaya> real brainfuzz
hours
L119[01:41:59] <Amanda> I played way too
much MSFS in my teens
L120[01:42:22] <Izaya> oh this may
interest you
L121[01:42:32] <Izaya> was thinking a bit
about a profiler module for PsychOS
L122[01:42:44] <Izaya> so you can get a
per-process count of each component call
L123[01:43:11]
<NoHaxJustBad12> what is PsychOS
L124[01:43:12] <Amanda> sounds
interesting
L125[01:43:23] <Izaya> should be easy
enough if one were to wrap component in the kernel, but after the
scheduler is set up
L126[01:46:26]
<s_a_m>
trying to make an aircraft i made fight a ship i made
L127[01:46:27]
<s_a_m>
B)
L128[01:47:51]
<Michiyo>
sigh
L129[01:48:09]
<Michiyo>
why doesn't my fucking keyboard work before an operating system
loads?
L130[01:48:59]
<Michiyo>
It's an amazing keyboard other than this....
L131[01:49:00]
<Michiyo>
lol
L132[01:49:30]
<Michiyo>
Oh.... and it's corsair, so to control the RGB you need iCue....
which sucks.
L133[01:49:50] <Izaya> better than
razer
L134[01:50:03] <Izaya> to use all the
keys, log into our nonfree drivers!
L135[01:50:29]
<s_a_m>
yikes
L136[01:50:30]
<s_a_m>
wtf
L137[01:50:38]
<s_a_m> why
do they need to overcomplicate a keyboard
L138[01:50:43] <Izaya> the same drivers
that track your keystrokes!
L139[01:50:47] <Izaya> just to make a
heatmap
L140[01:50:49] <Izaya> trust us
L141[01:50:52]
<s_a_m> i
got myself a redragon keyboard
L142[01:51:01] <Izaya> currently using a
Dell L100
L143[01:51:03]
<s_a_m>
it's comfy
L144[01:51:07]
<s_a_m>
cheap mech keyboard
L145[01:51:12] <Izaya> though I have
switches for my Gergo on order now
L146[01:51:16] <Izaya> should arrive some
time next year
L147[01:51:20]
<s_a_m>
keeps my RBG color settings
L148[01:51:30]
<s_a_m>
*RGB
L149[01:51:32]
<s_a_m>
fucks sake
L150[01:51:37]
<Michiyo> I
LOVE this thing.... other than icue, and... well this stupid
bullshit that I'm running into now
L151[01:51:42] <Izaya> red blue green, red
green blue, same thing
L152[01:51:49]
<s_a_m>
very different, izaya
L153[01:51:49] *
Izaya turns purple
L154[01:51:55]
<s_a_m>
bwoink
L155[01:52:06]
<Michiyo>
Ruth Bader Ginsburg color
L156[01:53:05]
<s_a_m> i
wonder if the BDA AI can figure out it needs to open the bay doors
before dropping a paveway
L157[01:53:14]
<s_a_m>
since i marked the paveways as "in cargo bay"
L158[01:53:23] <Izaya> but did you inform
HAL
L159[01:53:51] <ben_mkiv> @Michiyo maybe
there's an BIOS ready DLC for your keyboard? :D
L160[01:53:58]
<Michiyo>
lmfao
L162[01:54:16] <ben_mkiv> i wished some
people had that back in the days when people asked me to fix their
computer
L163[01:54:29] <ben_mkiv> that/a keyboard
which wont let them get into the BIOS
L164[01:54:41]
<Michiyo>
the ONLY thing I've found is "Hold the "Windows key lock
button for 5 seconds and the F1 key for 5 seconds then wait 2
seconds" this will allow you to enter bios mode on the next
reboot.. and I'm like... WTF man
L165[01:54:43]
<Michiyo>
that's bullshit.
L166[01:54:49]
<Michiyo>
Also.. it doesn't fucking work.
L167[01:55:18] <Izaya> sounds like a
shortcut for the windows reboot into setup menu anyway
L168[01:55:21] <ben_mkiv> what if you
power it through an USB Hub, like the monitor or something
L169[01:55:31] <ben_mkiv> so that it has
time to boot up, before you turn on the PC
L170[01:55:59]
<Michiyo>
Do I even OWN any powered USB hubs?
L171[01:56:03]
<Michiyo>
I... don't think so
L172[01:56:20]
<Michiyo>
no.....
L173[01:56:20]
<Michiyo>
:/
L174[01:57:08] <Izaya> I think the closest
thing I have to a USB hub is this USB / Firewire PCI card
L175[01:57:40] <Izaya> oh, I have the one
that came with the pinephone
L176[01:57:44] <ben_mkiv> well, pc screens
often have them
L177[01:57:50] <Izaya> but it's USB-C so
it's not like it can be plugged into anything else anyway
L178[01:57:52]
<Michiyo>
Mine do not
L180[01:58:50] <Izaya> I might have an
ultrasharp with a 1.1 hub ... somewhere
L181[01:59:04]
<Michiyo> I
have 3 of those
L182[01:59:44] <Izaya> matching displays?
fancy!
L183[02:00:03]
<Michiyo>
lol yeah
L184[02:01:08] <ben_mkiv> oh, i wanted to
get a cheapo pciex gpu for my side screens...
L185[02:01:53] <Izaya> I never managed to
get my iGPU and a dGPU working together...
L186[02:11:37]
<s_a_m>
firefox is very good at locking up
L187[02:11:49]
<s_a_m> i
wonder if it's because of novideo drivers
L188[02:11:57] <Izaya> could also be
because of a slow disk
L189[02:12:54] <ben_mkiv> Asus GT 710
looks kinda interesting, but it's still 80 bucks for a fricking 2nd
gpu :/
L190[02:13:16] <ben_mkiv> 4x HDMI, PCIe
x1, 2GB memory aaaaaaaaaand fanless
L191[02:13:31] <Izaya> consider also:
passive cooled 8600GT
L192[02:13:37] <Izaya> it should be
slightly faster too
L193[02:14:34] <ben_mkiv> but looks like
they have way less video memory?!
L194[02:14:48] <ben_mkiv> and aren't PCIe
x1
L196[02:16:07] <Izaya> I had a 1GB one,
once upon a time
L197[02:16:18] <ben_mkiv> wonder why
theres not much choice for x1 cards
L198[02:16:34] <Amanda> ... not sure if my
oil spots are running out, or if I'm running into some kind of
fluid flow bug
L199[02:16:40]
<Michiyo>
Swapped the keyboard from usb3 to usb2 and it works....
L200[02:17:05] <ben_mkiv> Matrox
Millennium G550 with 32MB VRAM as pcie x1 is a thing actually
:D
L201[02:17:06] <ben_mkiv> lmao
L202[02:17:27] <Izaya> I have a Millenium
with 32M of VRAM and it's like ... ISA?
L203[02:17:31] <Izaya> could be PCI
L204[02:18:20] <ben_mkiv> the chipset is
damn old
L205[02:18:36] <Izaya> I should probably
see if that computer works
L207[02:18:46] <Izaya> it has a 500Mhz
Pentium II, which is a significant upgrade from the 350Mhz
one
L208[02:18:54] <ben_mkiv> Release Date:
Nov 26th, 2001
L209[02:24:17] <ben_mkiv> i had a p3 1ghz
dual cpu system with an g450 iirc
L210[02:24:18]
<Michiyo>
Ok, back on discord on linux
L211[02:24:39] <Izaya> got a 2x1.133Ghz
Pentium III machine under the desk here
L212[02:24:40] <ben_mkiv> raid0 with 2x
western digital raptor ide drives :D
L213[02:24:47] <Izaya> the Ultra320 SCSI
drives are quite loud though
L214[02:24:48] <ben_mkiv> those where the
times...
L215[02:25:03] <ben_mkiv> or was it scsi
maybe, cant recall currently
L216[02:26:10] <ben_mkiv> or even sata?!
was that a thing on p3 mainboards?
L217[02:26:32] <Izaya> I don't think
so
L218[02:26:43] <Izaya> haven't seen
anything older than a socket 775 P4 with SATA
L219[02:26:48] <Izaya> ...
L220[02:26:58] <Izaya> no I've seen 478 P4
boards with SATA
L221[02:27:16]
<Michiyo>
Yeah SATA came about with P4
L222[02:27:38] <Izaya> SATA cards in a P3
machine is totally doable though
L223[02:27:47]
<Michiyo>
Yep
L224[02:27:48] <Izaya> not sure if it'd be
happy to boot off SATA drives though
L225[02:27:56]
<Michiyo>
Unlikely
L226[02:28:24] <Izaya> unlike SCSI cards,
SATA cards tend to assume the BIOS knows how to deal with attached
drives
L227[02:29:42] <ben_mkiv> yea it wasn't
sata then
L228[02:29:50] <ben_mkiv> probably
scsi
L229[02:31:26] <ben_mkiv> and now every
phone is faster xD
L230[02:32:02] <Izaya> still spins me out
that my 2015-tier phone is faster than my previous made-in-2010
laptop
L231[02:33:10] <ben_mkiv> on the other
hand, current cpu's seems to be not much faster for single clock
speed compared to my 12year old 3,8GHz i7 xD
L232[02:33:36] <ben_mkiv> some have like
5ghz boost, but that's not that much of a gain compared to the
years before
L233[02:34:06] <Izaya> the per cycle
performance has improved reasonably significantly
L234[02:34:18] <Izaya> but only in the
last two years or so
L235[02:34:31] <Izaya> 2010 through 2018
was sort of 5% year-on-year
L236[02:35:08] <ben_mkiv> i'm considering
to upgrade my i7 to an 5900x, so even if single core speed is
almost same, i would notice a difference?
L237[02:35:13] *
Amanda flops down around Elfi, starts reading to her
L238[02:35:54] <Izaya> yeah, the newer zen
designs are a pretty solid improvement
L239[02:36:24] <Izaya> I can't quote any
numbers but I almost want to upgrade from my 4790
L240[02:37:03] <Izaya> 4-5Ghz is sort of
as fast as you can practically run silicon transistors at the sort
of sizes they're at now
L241[02:37:35] <Izaya> the reason the P4
was such a fuckup is that they didn't account for the fact you
can't just keep ramping up the clock speed without increasing the
power usage and heat output a lot faster
L242[02:37:56] <Izaya> so now designs are
focusing on how to be more efficient per-cycle
L243[02:38:06] <ben_mkiv> yea, legends say
they based the core2 design on the latest p3's
L244[02:38:07]
<Michiyo>
Yeah... I'm considering a 5950x....
L245[02:38:11]
<Michiyo>
MAYBE...
L246[02:38:20] <Amanda> haha cpu go
brr-FOOF!
L247[02:38:35] <Izaya> a P4-era celeron
can be clocked really high if you can cool it though
L248[02:38:51] <Izaya> it's not very fast
even at high speeds though
L249[02:38:53] <ben_mkiv> considered also
the 5950x, but i think i will get more from the faster single core
speed of the 5900x
L250[02:39:25] <ben_mkiv> but currently
stuff that uses all cores isn't fun to wait for with the i7
;(
L251[02:39:36]
<Michiyo> I
do A LOT of multi core stuff
L252[02:39:40] <ben_mkiv> 5900x would at
least make it 3x faster
L254[02:39:48] <ben_mkiv> but is that 100%
multicore stuff?
L255[02:40:16]
<Michiyo>
like 92% atleast
L256[02:40:27] <ben_mkiv> what shit is 92%
multicore stuff? :P
L257[02:41:17]
<s_a_m>
wish there was a button to recover all debris
L258[02:41:36] <ben_mkiv> but currently
i'm also waiting for something that only uses 2 cores for some
reason
L259[02:41:55] <ben_mkiv> 2 threads*
L260[02:42:05] <Izaya> know what I've
discovered really annoys me recently?
L261[02:42:17] <Izaya> games that despite
being 64-bit will only use 4GB of VRAM
L262[02:42:41] <Izaya> I have 8, I can
feel that it's paging textures in and out of VRAM, fuckin use it
>.>
L264[02:43:32] <ben_mkiv> did you check
vram usage?
L265[02:43:42] <ben_mkiv> at least nvidia
provides tools for that
L266[02:43:59] <Izaya> yup
L267[02:44:05] <Izaya> sitting comfy on
4GB >.>
L268[02:44:28] <ben_mkiv> chrome sitting
here with 30MB vram usage, waiting for the day they'll utilize vram
also
L269[02:44:32] <ben_mkiv> :P
L270[02:45:03] <Izaya> I idle at like 300M
VRAM usage, with a browser open
L271[02:45:14] <ben_mkiv> UE4Editor
6213MiB
L272[02:45:31] <ben_mkiv> they could also
name it MemLeakEditor
L273[02:45:55]
<s_a_m>
mmm
L274[02:46:01]
<s_a_m>
leaky programs
L275[02:47:58] <ben_mkiv> some parts of
this software make me cry
L276[02:48:13] <ben_mkiv> importing an
70MB fbx file casually allocates 30GB system memory
L277[03:24:15]
<Vaur>
%tonkout
L278[03:24:16] <MichiBot> Dagnammit!
Vaur! You beat your own previous record of 5 hours, 43 minutes and
1 second (By 2 hours, 1 minute and 59 seconds)! I hope you're
happy!
L279[03:24:17] <MichiBot> Vaur has tonked
out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.007 tonk points! plus 0.012
bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 2.61856204,
Position #2 Need 0.19108866 more points to pass Forecaster!
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L281[03:27:37] <eeeeeeeeeeeeee>
eeeeeeeeeeeeee
L282[03:28:31]
<Michiyo>
Well....
L283[03:28:33]
<Michiyo>
well said....
L284[03:28:57]
<Michiyo> I
didn't know dolphins could connect to IRC
L285[03:28:59] <eeeeeeeeeeeeee> e
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L287[03:54:51]
<Ariri>
a
L289[04:10:30] <MichiBot> Amanda: Inari
will be notified of this message when next seen.
L290[04:11:02] *
Amanda bleps, zzzmews around elfi
L291[04:11:07] <Amanda> Night nerds
L292[04:22:29]
<Ocawesome101> @sam i have a ~~redragon~~
rii and i quite like it
L293[04:22:34]
<Ocawesome101> fake mx blues
L294[04:27:02]
<s_a_m>
yea
L295[04:27:25]
<s_a_m>
mine lets me change the switches :)
L296[04:29:26]
<Ocawesome101> christ the pangolin i'm
getting might match or exceed my desktop in terms of speed
L297[04:46:10]
<Ocawesome101> now that i have begun
uploading large files to github and it is 12:45am: i will now go to
bed
L298[04:46:20]
<Ocawesome101> because my internet is crap
while uploading because buffer bloat
L299[04:46:28]
<Ocawesome101> night y'all
L300[05:09:38]
<Shuudoushi> Any native German speakers
still alive in here?
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L302[05:13:45]
<CyborgPotato> %tonkout
L303[05:13:46] <MichiBot> CyborgPotato:
You gotta tonk before you can tonk out. For this transgression the
timer has been reset.
L304[05:13:53]
<CyborgPotato> %tonk
L305[05:14:20]
<CyborgPotato> oh whake
L306[05:14:22]
<CyborgPotato> Whale*
L307[05:15:18]
<Shuudoushi> %tonkout
L308[05:15:44]
<Shuudoushi> Motherfucker... Bot's locked
for 13min...
L310[05:21:10]
<Shuudoushi> Talk about floor dragging
balls
L311[05:31:37]
<s_a_m>
[CAUTION]
L312[05:31:39]
<s_a_m>
[PULL UP]
L313[07:17:56]
<Kodos>
Hokay, time to write this stupid program finally
L314[07:36:07]
<Kodos>
Okay, really quickly, if I have a string, let's say
`"0123456789ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ"` what's the
easiest way to have it loop something that generates every possible
7-character length string you can make with those characters
(allowing for duplicate uses)
L315[08:03:49]
<Forecaster> Generate a random int and use
it to pick a character and repeat that 7 times
L316[08:32:28]
<Vaur>
%sip
L317[08:32:28] <MichiBot> You drink a
cloudy black potion (New!). Vaur's favourite pants are suddenly
fire.
L318[08:33:34]
<Vaur>
%tonk
L319[08:33:34] <MichiBot> Woooo! Vaur!
You beat your own previous record of <0 (By 3 hours, 19 minutes
and 48 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L320[08:33:35] <MichiBot> Vaur's new
record is 3 hours, 19 minutes and 48 seconds! No points gained for
stealing from yourself. (Lost out on 0.00333)
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<Ashirg>
%tonk
L327[10:56:16] <MichiBot> I'm sorry
Ashirg, you were not able to beat Vaur's record of 3 hours, 19
minutes and 48 seconds this time. 2 hours, 22 minutes and 41
seconds were wasted! Missed by 57 minutes and 6 seconds!
L328[10:56:39]
<Ashirg>
Ah, I am blind again
L329[10:56:43]
<Vaur>
%sip
L330[10:56:43] <MichiBot> You drink a
freezing sky potion (New!). Vaur turns into a shark girl until they
see a star fall.
L331[10:56:58]
<Ashirg> A
shark girl, interesting...
L332[10:57:04]
<Ashirg>
%sip
L333[10:57:06] <MichiBot> You drink a
shining unobtanium potion (New!). It tastes sour.
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L337[12:02:49]
<ThePiGuy24> >Saghetti: interesting
photo
L338[12:02:49]
<ThePiGuy24> real scale
L339[12:15:11] <dequbed> The only question
I have is if the adapter is the correct scale or if the µSD is.
Because I'd love a floppy-sized µSD card
L340[12:16:17] <Izaya> fuck that'd be
good
L341[12:16:44] <Izaya> a shame that it
wouldn't result in lots of storage, the current form factors aren't
constrained for how many chips they can fit in, maybe except actual
µSD cards
L342[12:17:35]
<Forecaster> a memory card and card reader
dressed up to look and feel like a floppy and a floppy drive would
be neat
L343[12:22:28] <Elfi> Did someone say
shark girls
L344[12:23:28]
<Forecaster> Vaur is shark girl
L345[12:23:49] <Elfi> Cute
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L348[12:55:06] *
Amanda stirs awake, meows and looks around
L349[12:55:28] *
Amanda offers elfi some beverages
L350[12:56:12]
<Ashirg>
%sip
L351[12:56:12] <MichiBot> You drink a
porous platinum potion (New!). The bottle turns into a piece of
bacon. Ashirg has found 2 pieces of bacon so far.
L352[12:56:48] <Elfi> %sip coffee
L353[12:56:48] <MichiBot> Elfi: Elfi has
some coffee. It's hot and bitter.
L354[12:59:27] *
Amanda checks that elfi's not burnt herself, loads up her factory
to continue flailing in
L355[13:05:19] <Amanda> oh that's right,
I'm having trouble with oil production
L356[13:12:49]
<GigaChef>
%sip
L357[13:12:49] <MichiBot> You drink a
liquid cyan potion (New!). GigaChef now knows how not to be
seen.
L358[13:13:25]
<GigaChef>
%aip
L359[13:13:29]
<GigaChef>
%sip
L360[13:49:25]
<GigaChef>
%sip
L361[13:49:25] <MichiBot> You drink a
shimmering mithril potion (New!). GigaChef turns into a dragon
sword girl until they have some bacon.
L362[13:49:34]
<GigaChef>
bruh
L363[13:53:13] <Elfi> Cute :3
L366[14:00:37]
<Forecaster> Sword dragons are no
joke
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L368[14:21:52]
<Ariri>
shork girl: a
L369[14:26:39] <Amanda> %choose launch the
science rocket unsupervised?
L370[14:26:39] <MichiBot> Amanda: Oh yes,
definitely!
L371[14:27:01] <Amanda> Sure, what's the
worst that can happen
L372[14:30:29]
<GigaChef>
how do i install more ram than a computer case can hold?
L373[14:31:01] <Amanda> server racks
L374[14:31:12]
<GigaChef>
ok
L375[14:31:26] <Amanda> otherwise: You
don't
L376[14:31:39] <Amanda> bar modded stuff
like computronics' creative memory
L377[14:33:39]
<GigaChef>
which server the terminal server or tier 3 server?
L378[14:33:58] <Amanda> terminal server is
a renote screen
L379[14:36:01] <Amanda> %choose remote
outpost for cogs/copper wire?
L380[14:36:01] <MichiBot> Amanda: Oh yes,
definitely!
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L382[14:39:16] <DudeUrCringe> hi
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<Kodos>
Hokay, apparently what I need is called a combination
generator
L386[14:52:45]
<Kodos>
Since it has a name, surely th ere's already a code example out
there somewhere, so it's off to the google races with me
L387[14:59:11] <DudeUrCringe> i tried
using servers for more memory but it did not work :|
L388[15:00:02] <Amanda> Guessing you're
SoL then, MineOS is really resource heavy and not really suited for
real use
L389[15:01:12] <DudeUrCringe> then which
os is good?
L390[15:01:29] <Amanda> I've done most of
my OC stuff under OpenOS
L391[15:01:34] <Amanda> ( the default os
)
L392[15:01:57] <DudeUrCringe> ok i dont
know how to program a os
L393[15:02:14] <Amanda> ... you don't have
to
L394[15:02:26] <DudeUrCringe> wdym
L395[15:02:35] <Amanda> OpenOS is
perfectally usable
L396[15:03:01] <DudeUrCringe> but then how
do i use the nano machine?
L397[15:03:29] <Amanda> by making or
finding a program to do that
L398[15:03:43] <DudeUrCringe> where do i
find programs?
L399[15:03:48] <Amanda> there was one on
OPPM I think
L400[15:03:56] <DudeUrCringe> OPPM?
L401[15:04:03] <Amanda> google.
L402[15:04:20]
<Kodos> I
like Sangar's tablet program myself
L403[15:04:23]
<Kodos> Let
me get you a link
L405[15:05:05]
<Kodos>
I've not touched that code in 5 years, let me know if anything's
broken
L407[15:06:36] <DudeUrCringe> do i just
copy the code?
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L409[15:14:39]
<Kodos>
I'll plug that in in a bit. Essentially what I'm doing is dialing
every possible address at a stargate and writing to a file anything
that dials successfully
L410[15:15:44]
<Kodos>
Thank you
L411[15:17:13]
<Kodos> Oh
that's neat. Apparently with Stargate Network, if your gate has
access to the sky, and it's thunderstorming when you're dialing
out, it has a 5% chance to get struck by lightning and redirect
your gate to any previously generated gate
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L413[15:29:13] <NoHaxJustBad12> hi
L414[15:30:21] <NoHaxJustBad12> k
bye
L415[15:30:23]
<Kodos>
%hello
L416[15:30:23] <MichiBot> Hello! Welcome
to #oc! The one and only opencomputers channel! Please ask your
questions directly (dont ask to ask) and provide error/code
examples! (Use pastebin.com if theyre more than one line!) Dont
mind the random conversation you might have walked into.
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L418[15:30:27]
<Kodos>
%bye
L419[15:30:27] <MichiBot> Oh, well, bye I
guess...
L420[15:40:02]
<Ariri>
Kodos: must have been part of an update
L421[15:40:02]
<Ariri> i
know how i will use this knowledge B)
L423[16:08:23]
<Forecaster> NoHax isn't new
L424[16:08:52]
<Forecaster> He was here earlier today and
have been here before
L425[16:09:25]
<Forecaster> You'd think he'd know you
can't just say hi and expect an immediate answer by now
L426[16:11:58]
<Ariri>
>surface to air missile:
L427[16:11:58]
<Ariri>
that one guy dodging the 6 SAMs after in Iran after he
returned
L429[16:13:36]
<ThePiGuy24> i do that in gta5
sometimes
L430[16:13:57]
<ThePiGuy24> just fly a cessna skyhawk
through the tunnel under the military base
L431[16:14:16]
<ThePiGuy24> and hope that there arent any
large trucks inside
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L433[16:18:58]
<s_a_m> ace
combat
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L435[16:44:51] <kogtyv> люди
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<Vaur>
%tonkout
L439[16:46:51] <MichiBot> Kapow! Vaur!
You beat your own previous record of 3 hours, 19 minutes and 48
seconds (By 2 hours, 30 minutes and 46 seconds)! I hope you're
happy!
L440[16:46:52] <MichiBot> Vaur has tonked
out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.005 tonk points! plus 0.008
bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 2.63156204,
Position #2 Need 0.17808866 more points to pass Forecaster!
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L443[17:02:39]
<Kodos>
@Ocawesome101 Thanks for the help with that math over on the other
Discord. Clearly this is prohibitively time-intensive and probably
not worth doing
L444[17:02:53]
<Ocawesome101> no problem
L445[17:03:19]
<Kodos>
Though you did help me figure out I was doing things in the wrong
order
L446[17:03:45]
<Kodos> I
should generate the list file of all addresses, as it would be
easier to iterate over the file and pass each line to the dialing
call
L447[17:04:17]
<Kodos>
Though I'm curious how big a text file would be with 78364164096
lines of 7 characters each
L448[17:04:18]
<Ocawesome101> that file would be at least
a few gigabytes, wouldnt it? or do you mean all available
addresses
L449[17:04:33]
<Kodos> No
I definitely meant all addresses
L450[17:04:49]
<Ocawesome101> it'd be a little under
500GB
L451[17:04:54]
<Ocawesome101> not storing that on an OC
computer
L452[17:04:57]
<Kodos>
Jesus lmao
L453[17:04:58] <Izaya> you could do all
likely addresses, it's encoded chunk locations, isn't it?
L454[17:05:06] <Izaya> so the further from
spawn you get the less likely they are to exist
L455[17:05:07]
<Kodos> No,
it's assigned a 7 character value
L456[17:05:17] <Izaya> at random?
L457[17:05:25]
<Kodos>
Yes, uniquely assigned though
L458[17:05:32]
<Kodos> So
no two gates would share an address
L459[17:05:34] <Izaya> hmm okay
L460[17:05:45]
<Kodos>
Literally 78364164096 possible addresses
L461[17:06:02]
<Kodos> And
that's not even taking into account that interdimensional dialing
adds on 2 characters
L462[17:06:07]
<Ocawesome101> i maintain that you just
need a global computer network
L463[17:06:13]
<Kodos>
Indeed
L464[17:06:20] <Izaya> I could help with
that :^)
L465[17:06:32]
<Kodos> I'm
gonna go the other way with it and have a standardized port for
gate usage
L466[17:06:36]
<Kodos>
Which is going to be...
L467[17:06:37]
<Kodos> One
sec
L468[17:06:43]
<Ocawesome101> the extra 2 characters
would make that file 92.3TB
L469[17:06:43]
<Kodos>
4283
L470[17:06:58]
<Kodos>
Which is GATE in DTMF
L471[17:07:41] <Izaya> thanks GitHub, I
know you don't support my web browser by the fact nothing fucking
works
L472[17:07:50]
<Kodos> Not
only 92 TB, but 1.0155996e+14 lines of 9 characters long
addresses
L473[17:08:22] <Amanda> did you include
the newline?
L474[17:08:30]
<Ocawesome101> 101559956668416
L475[17:08:32]
<Ocawesome101> no i did not
L476[17:08:35]
<Kodos> Oh
lawd
L477[17:08:38]
<Kodos>
bigbrain.gif
L478[17:08:48]
<ThePiGuy24> why even store them all
;p
L479[17:08:59]
<ThePiGuy24> you can just generate on the
fly with the script i showed earlier
L480[17:09:07]
<Kodos>
Yeah, but I want to store the ones that worked
L481[17:09:11]
<Kodos>
Well, wanted to
L482[17:09:22]
<Kodos>
Another problem exists though that kind of nukes the entire
project
L483[17:09:29]
<Kodos>
Gate addresses aren't generated until the gate is
L484[17:09:38]
<Kodos>
Which defeats the purpose, as I want to find the gates
L485[17:09:49] <Izaya> they're generated
in the world?
L486[17:09:53]
<Kodos>
Yes
L487[17:09:58] <Izaya> pregenerate the
world :^)
L489[17:10:17]
<ThePiGuy24> store the index of the ones
that work instead, only need to store as many bytes needed to
represent that integer
L490[17:11:24] <Izaya> cursed
L493[17:53:17] <MichiBot>
Title:
Things are changing.
| Posted by: Feodor2
| Posted:
Mon Aug 30 18:04:18 UTC 2021
| Status: open
L495[17:53:18] <MichiBot>
Title:
license
| Posted by: Feodor2
| Posted: Thu Sep 10
12:09:51 UTC 2020
| Status: closed
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L504[18:58:23] <Inari> nep
L505[18:58:44] <Inari> Amanda: go do your
homework
L506[18:58:54] <Amanda> Inari:
never!
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L508[19:16:39]
<Urantij>
Hi.
L509[19:16:39]
<Urantij>
How do i remove an event listener, when a program crashes? I
noticed, that if i start listening for an event via event.listen,
the passed function will be called, even if the program is already
closed.
L510[19:17:20]
<Forecaster> yes, event listeners are
registered globally, not in the context of the script
L511[19:17:46]
<Forecaster> in Lua you can use pcall to
catch errors
L512[19:18:37]
<Urantij>
So i should wrap whole script with pcall
L513[19:18:43]
<Urantij>
huh
L514[19:18:45]
<Forecaster> basically
L515[19:19:07]
<Urantij>
thank you
L516[19:20:57] <Amanda> Inari: what was
that in response to anyway? I don't remember what I sent
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L520[19:38:42] <Amanda> ah
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L530[22:24:00] <Amanda> %choose halucinate
or continue chasing problems in the factory
L531[22:24:00] <MichiBot> Amanda:
Somebody once told me to roll with "continue chasing problems
in the factory"
L532[22:29:08] <Amanda> right, good. What
should I halucinate then: %choose dragon or reincarnator or
spider
L533[22:29:08] <MichiBot> Amanda:
Somebody once told me to roll with "dragon"
L534[22:29:38] *
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dragon-kin
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L536[22:50:26] <NMRF> hello
L537[22:52:52]
<Michiyo>
Hello
L540[22:53:20] <NMRF> how are you
L541[22:53:52]
<Michiyo>
I'm alive, so.... eh :D
L542[22:53:54]
<Michiyo>
you?
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L544[22:54:45] <walksanator> hello
L546[22:54:59] <NMRF> uhh
L547[22:55:18] <NMRF> i am in a bit of a
situation
L548[22:55:33] <walksanator> about to be a
idiot and try to make a remote connection between space, the
overworld and try cross world irc
L549[22:55:45]
<Michiyo>
Neat.
L551[22:55:50] <NMRF> walk
L552[22:56:09] <NMRF> wait is there
something like /msg on irc?
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L554[22:56:47] <NMRF> ok well
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L556[22:57:08]
<Michiyo>
you can PM yes, it depends on what client you're using
however.
L557[22:57:12] <walksanator> my oc just
froze
L559[22:57:20]
<Michiyo>
if you're here via the ingame IRC, good luck :P
L560[22:57:20] <NMRF> wdym client
L561[22:57:24]
<Michiyo>
use webchat or something lol
L563[22:57:32] <walksanator> i am in via
the ingame irc
L564[22:57:39] <NMRF> walk
L566[22:57:49] <walksanator> yes
L567[22:58:07] <NMRF> would you be able to
send me your IRC channel?
L568[22:58:11] <NMRF> or smth
L569[22:58:14] <walksanator> wdym
L570[22:58:25] <NMRF> did you set up an
irc channel
L571[22:58:29] <walksanator> no
L573[22:58:38] <walksanator> i joined via
the ingame irc client
L574[22:58:50] <NMRF> nono i mean
like
L575[22:58:57] <NMRF> #oc is an irc
channel
L576[22:59:02] <NMRF> for example
L577[22:59:05] <walksanator> i dont have
my own irc network or channel
L580[22:59:39] <NMRF> i might join from my
computer back home
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L582[22:59:48] <NMRF> but thats
L583[22:59:52] <NMRF> 1.5 km away
L584[23:00:10] <NMRF> welp
L585[23:00:14] <NMRF> ill be back
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L588[23:00:49] <walksanator> i broke it
again
L589[23:00:55] <walksanator> terminal
servers are finicky
L590[23:01:43] <walksanator> also who
agrees tier 3 graphic cards are too high deatail
L591[23:01:54] <walksanator> on my monitor
they make the text tiny to the point of unreadable
L592[23:02:08] <walksanator> (or is there
a way to drop resolution)
L593[23:02:50]
<Michiyo>
Just /join #someotherchannel
L594[23:02:56]
<Michiyo>
that will "make" a new channel
L595[23:03:00]
<Michiyo>
then anyone else can also join it
L596[23:03:13] <walksanator> neat
L597[23:03:22]
<Michiyo>
that works on either the ingame IRC client, or the webchat.
L598[23:03:52] <walksanator> is there a
printer program in openOS
L599[23:04:05] <walksanator> or di i have
to get one via oppm
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L601[23:12:19]
<ThePiGuy24> %tell walksanator you can use
the command `resolution width height` to set the resolution,
replacing width and height with the desired values obviously, the
default for tier 3 is 160 50 so adjust it until it looks
right
L602[23:12:19] <MichiBot> ThePiGuy24:
walksanator will be notified of this message when next seen.
L603[23:44:07]
<Z0idberg>
Ok.
L604[23:44:19]
<Z0idberg>
I want to see an Elixir macrokernel for RISC-V that will work with
OC2
L605[23:44:28]
<Z0idberg>
Erlang + OTP + Elixir
L606[23:44:49]
<Z0idberg>
of course having multiple nodes will be nice, each OC2 computer as
a node
L607[23:45:26]
<Z0idberg>
ok it's been done
L608[23:45:30]
<Z0idberg>
we need an OC2 flavor
L609[23:47:07]
<Z0idberg>
crap, I forgot to fork the oc2 repo so I don't remember where it
is
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L611[23:57:16] <walksanator> anyone know a
3d model editor for .3dm files
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