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L1[00:18:16] <Mic​hiyo> %test
L2[00:18:16] <MichiBot> Mic​hiyo: No.
L3[00:20:43] <Mic​hiyo> %test
L4[00:20:43] <MichiBot> Mic​hiyo: No.
L5[01:34:39] <Ko​dos> Hokay, that was a nice nap
L6[01:34:48] <Ko​dos> Time to take this boat back to dock
L7[02:03:12] <Ko​dos> Hokay, who's currently in MC right now with 2 computers/servers running OpenOS that are networked together
L8[02:03:50] <Ko​dos> Actually nvm
L9[02:06:11] <Ko​dos> Okay, so I need to set the rack to 'disabled' and then just use the same side for the networks for this
L10[02:10:24] <Ko​dos> And so it begins
L11[02:21:59] <Ko​dos> I wonder how hard it would be to make a remote terminal `term.clear()` when it swaps to a different server
L12[02:34:59] <Ko​dos> The joys of having ADHD, getting sidetracked and making your lightboard go into Disco mode https://tinyurl.com/yga5v98j
L13[02:44:25] <Ko​dos> When the shit did the creative component bus get added
L14[02:46:45] <Mic​hiyo> Well, it was there the last time I ever did anything with OC
L15[02:46:48] <Mic​hiyo> so... a long ass time ago
L16[02:47:18] <Izaya> ... Huh.
L17[02:47:36] <Izaya> So they do make 19" 1920x1200 displays. For $3800. In Germany.
L18[03:01:14] <Ko​dos> Time to watch the 22 minute Networks tutorial video
L19[03:02:37] <Ko​dos> Oh God, it's got the old font
L20[03:03:19] <Ko​dos> Izaya: are there 'standards' for port usage, or should I just make my own
L21[03:04:46] <Izaya> https://github.com/ShadowKatStudios/OC-ports
L22[03:04:59] <Ko​dos> See this is why I asked you, I knew you'd have some sort of list already lmao
L23[03:08:41] <Ocawes​ome101> there's also minitel for networking, made by izaya
L24[03:09:10] <Izaya> technically minitel supports string ports
L25[03:09:15] <Ko​dos> tbh I have no idea how to do any networking, so
L26[03:09:41] <Ko​dos> I stopped working on handshake code when I got to 100 lines and my back started itching from the ADD kicking in
L27[03:11:10] <Ko​dos> I wonder if rack-mounted relays are even necessary at this point, since a rack handles that itself now, doesn't it?
L28[03:11:20] <Ko​dos> Actually I guess I'd still want to upgrade a relay
L29[03:11:38] <Izaya> imagine using racks
L30[03:11:42] <Izaya> https://social.shadowkat.net/media/66b82ccce90ee4f43ffc6b0a49b9cf003e30ab174582d223de9eba818e437e92.jpg
L31[03:11:59] <Ko​dos> Conduits? 🤢
L32[03:12:16] <Izaya> [01F922] indeed
L33[03:12:18] <Ko​dos> Also rack-mounted raids
L34[03:12:30] <Izaya> but you can just slap 4 drives in a server
L35[03:12:39] <Izaya> then export the drives over RPC
L36[03:12:46] <Ko​dos> yeah but imagine slapping 12 drives in a rack mounted raid
L37[03:12:47] <Ko​dos> lmao
L38[03:12:56] <Ko​dos> Also the drives in a server are broken into separate FS
L39[03:13:06] <Ko​dos> A raid bundles them together
L40[03:13:13] <Izaya> there's a program tht does that with filesystems
L41[03:14:04] <Izaya> so the idea would be to import all the filesystems on one machine, bundle them together, then re-export it
L42[03:14:20] <Izaya> or do software RAID and have a filesystem that sits on block devices, I guess
L43[03:15:43] <Izaya> https://github.com/Sukasa/DistFS
L44[03:16:40] <Ko​dos> So a RAID for RAIDs
L45[03:17:08] <Ko​dos> https://tenor.com/view/yo-dawg-xzibit-laughing-gif-13033572
L46[03:17:22] <Izaya> B)
L47[03:17:32] <Ko​dos> Right, so
L48[03:17:44] <Ko​dos> I'm halfway through not beginning work, and I just had a thought
L49[03:17:49] <Ko​dos> I think I'm doing the logistics of this backwards
L50[03:17:53] <Ko​dos> But I'm not sure
L51[03:18:24] <Ko​dos> Let's say for sake of math, I have 64 different machines that I want a separate program running for each
L52[03:19:00] <Ko​dos> Right now I'm hooking into those machines with a singular 'Brain server' that networks data to and from a separate server for each machine
L53[03:19:06] <Ko​dos> Am I being a moron?
L54[03:19:26] <Ko​dos> I say Brain server, I mean Central Server
L55[03:21:03] <Izaya> like, you'd have 64 front-end computers, 64 servers, and a central one to route all the data through?
L56[03:25:19] <Ko​dos> Not necessarily front end computers
L57[03:25:44] <Ko​dos> But servers to deal with stuff like monitoring oxygen storage, and then sending out cargo rockets to retrieve more if necessary
L58[03:25:56] <Ko​dos> Or keeping track of swiped cards for mag doors
L59[03:26:02] <Ko​dos> Speaking of which, Michiyo!
L60[03:26:05] <Ko​dos> I had a question
L61[03:26:17] <Ko​dos> If I use one magcard door and one regular door, will they both open from the controller?
L62[03:26:21] <Ko​dos> I'm assuming so, but
L63[03:26:22] <Ko​dos> Wanted to ask
L64[03:26:41] <Ko​dos> cba to write enough code to test
L65[03:29:49] <Ko​dos> Eventually I am visualizing a data center where I set up servers for players to network into that handle whatever they're wanting done. Basically I write code/programs for players, but then instead of giving them the programs, they operate on servers in the data center, and network the resultant data to the player's computer for them to do whatever with
L66[03:30:42] <Ko​dos> So for a modem message, I can just spit out chunks of data and then they can retrieve it from a network event and use it however
L67[03:30:58] <Ko​dos> I'm still working on the semantics, but you get the idea
L68[03:31:12] <Ko​dos> The short version is ultimately, I want computers to do all the things
L69[03:33:21] <Ko​dos> If I could do any mod I wanted and have it just instantly be a thing, I'd probably make The Grid, a dimension inside your computer where you can physically manipulate your data (Don't fuck up your boot shit) or otherwise just live in your computer. You couldn't place down any other computer stuff while inside because quantum mechanics, but at 0,0 there would be a huge light thingy a la Legacy where it spits you back out where you came in at
L70[03:33:50] <Ko​dos> Utterly pointless as a mod but cool af
L71[03:34:19] <Izaya> like that pocket dimension mod but a computer?
L72[03:34:39] <Ko​dos> Have you seen the TRON movies?
L73[03:34:45] <Izaya> yup
L74[03:34:51] <Ko​dos> Then yeah, basically that
L75[03:35:13] <Ko​dos> Maybe even use OpenSec's Laser Turret as the thingy that pulls you in lmao
L76[03:35:26] <Ko​dos> But it would have to be configured just right or something
L77[03:35:46] <Ko​dos> I kind of want to do... well 100 things really, but specifically a computer-based puzzle thing
L78[03:35:58] <Ko​dos> I could see a map being done with something like that
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L80[03:47:48] <Amanda> "I Forgot to hook up the output, why isn't anythiing working" - A Factory Game Memorior, by Amanada.
L81[03:48:49] <Ko​dos> lmao
L82[03:51:03] <Ko​dos> Can I put ... for the first iteration of a modemmessage event's data, after addr, remaddr, port, \_ for the distance because wired, and then ...?
L83[03:51:16] <Izaya> yup
L84[03:51:20] <Ko​dos> Okay, cool
L85[03:51:44] <Ko​dos> And then just call local val1, val2, etc = ... in my event handler function for the message?
L86[03:51:52] <Ko​dos> To assign variables and shit
L87[03:52:08] <Izaya> something along those lines yeah
L88[03:52:21] <Ko​dos> Okay. Cool. Now I remembered why I wanted so many servers to handle stuff, because each one needs special handling based on the machine's data that comes in
L89[03:53:17] <Ko​dos> Now, finally, what's the way to make a computer execute code from a string? So I can network message what I want the central server to do with regards to being hooked up to a component
L90[03:58:24] <Ko​dos> Oh, wait, I probably want local args = {...}, and then args[1] = whatever, args[2] = whatever else, etc
L91[03:58:34] <Ko​dos> Or something to that effect
L92[03:58:46] <Ko​dos> I'll be doing everything by hand anyway, so I can just assign manually on a case by case basis I gu ess
L93[03:59:13] <Izaya> load()
L94[03:59:27] <Izaya> though there's the RPC library for Minitel which may interest you
L95[03:59:42] <Ko​dos> Right now I just want to do everything the hard way while I learn before I get too lazy lol
L96[04:00:10] <Ko​dos> Okay, so load("The code I send goes here") and then that runs it instantly?
L97[04:00:25] <Ocawes​ome101> no
L98[04:00:31] <Ocawes​ome101> `load("code")()`
L99[04:00:35] <Ko​dos> Aha, okay
L100[04:00:37] <Ocawes​ome101> `load` returns a function
L101[04:00:43] <Ko​dos> Ahh okay
L102[04:01:13] <Ko​dos> So for example, `load("component.os_door.toggle())()`
L103[04:01:17] <Ko​dos> So for example, `load("component.os_door.toggle()")()` [Edited]
L104[04:01:23] <Ocawes​ome101> yes
L105[04:01:27] <Ocawes​ome101> but why do you want to do that
L106[04:01:58] <Ko​dos> I'm having a dedicated blade do all the heavy lifting for figuring shit out, monitoring, etc, and then a central server that they network to that is actually hooked up to all the components
L107[04:02:05] <Ko​dos> So I only have one wire running through my base
L108[04:02:18] <Ko​dos> dedicated blade each*
L109[04:02:22] <Ocawes​ome101> fancy
L110[04:02:25] <Ko​dos> Indeed
L111[04:03:19] <Ko​dos> I'm still torn between having a singular server room in my entire base or having maintenance tunnels and having quadrants or whatever, sections of my base where each section has its own server room to keep things semi sorted
L112[04:03:32] <Ko​dos> I'll probably do maintenance tunnels either way, but
L113[04:04:35] <Amanda> %choose be responsible or wait for blueprints
L114[04:04:35] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: I saw that "be responsible" is the best choice in a vision
L115[04:05:11] <Amanda> probably for the best
L116[04:05:16] * Amanda flops down around Elfi, passes out
L117[04:06:04] <Ko​dos> You know I have zero confidence in anything I write, when half my comments are just `¯\(ツ)/¯ `
L118[04:07:49] <Amanda> %remindme 7h you were waiting for blueprints to finish do you can do part 9
L119[04:07:49] <MichiBot> I'll tell you "you were waiting for blueprints to finish do you can do part 9" in 7h at 08/29/2021 11:07:49 AM
L120[04:08:06] <Amanda> Night nerds
L121[04:11:15] <Ko​dos> Night
L122[04:20:23] <Ko​dos> A basic library can just be a table of values that is returned, right?
L123[04:20:33] <Ko​dos> Seems silly but I mean yeah
L124[04:20:50] <Ko​dos> As an example:
L125[04:20:50] <Ko​dos> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/wixamurohi
L126[04:21:38] <Izaya> oh, auckland 80s is auckland 80s again
L127[04:21:40] <Izaya> interesting
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L129[04:28:24] <Ko​dos> I present to you, node_0 https://tinyurl.com/ykyum3xm
L130[04:36:04] <Ko​dos> At least, once I figure out how hostnames work and what I can do with them, that's what it'll be called anyway
L131[04:38:53] <s_​a_m> working on a thing for OC
L132[04:39:12] <Ko​dos> Assuming that was a question, yes
L133[04:40:10] <Ko​dos> I'd also be interested to see OpenOS minified for use in smaller hard drives
L134[04:40:19] <Ko​dos> I know it fits fine right now as is, but
L135[04:40:32] <Ko​dos> Imagine OpenOS-Server
L136[04:41:14] <Izaya> there's this neat thing called PsychOS that's rather good for servers :^)
L137[04:44:14] <s_​a_m> i'm making a filesystem with permissions and striping other fun stuff for real this time
L138[04:44:14] <s_​a_m> :)
L139[04:44:22] <s_​a_m> well, not striping
L140[04:44:43] <s_​a_m> but distributing a filesystem over multiple drives
L141[04:44:58] <Ko​dos> Ha, I made lotto tickets https://tinyurl.com/yfvfypml
L142[04:45:30] <Ko​dos> I should really remember to truncate numbers in Lua 5.3
L143[05:12:24] <Ko​dos> Okay, hostnames mean fuckall to other computers I guess
L144[05:12:43] <Izaya> minitel uses them as network addresses
L145[05:12:51] <s_​a_m> tbh, i should make a module for zorya to override computer.shutdown to allow for filesystems to sync to disk before shutdown
L146[05:14:28] <Ko​dos> Izaya, how do you use them as hostnames? Do you manually broadcast their name and address and handshake and shit and just store them locally?
L147[05:14:49] <Izaya> sorta
L148[05:15:17] <Izaya> packets are addressed to the minitel address - nominally the hostname - and if the computer doesn't know a recent route to the computer in question, it just broadcasts the message
L149[05:15:43] <Ko​dos> Do you have handling on the other end that when it receives a broadcast, it pings back with its address so the sender can update?
L150[05:15:52] <Izaya> (when messages are received from a given host, the the first hop of the route is kept in memory for 30 (default) seconds)
L151[05:17:02] <Izaya> it isn't the most elegant or efficient system but it's really easy to implement
L152[05:17:35] <Ko​dos> Indeed
L153[05:36:04] <Ko​dos> Hmm, if I wanted to put `print("OK")` in a string how would I do that?
L154[05:36:14] <Ko​dos> For sake of sending a function o'er the network
L155[05:37:04] <Ko​dos> Aha, I can use an apostrophe
L156[05:37:04] <Ko​dos> Netao
L157[05:37:07] <Ko​dos> Neato [Edited]
L158[05:37:18] <Ko​dos> Okay, so that sorts that out
L159[05:37:43] <Ko​dos> Now I just have to master the string library and we're golden
L160[05:58:23] <ThePi​Guy24> you can escape quotes too by preceding them with a backslash ;p
L161[05:58:44] <ThePi​Guy24> so `"hello \"human\""` is valid ;p
L162[06:04:46] <Ko​dos> Okay, so how do I separate a string based on a separator character? I've had the code for this once before when Vex was helping me with something, but I can't seem to find it now
L163[06:14:01] <Forec​aster> Patterns probably
L164[06:15:25] <Ko​dos> Well, I'm wanting to break down a string twice, once to separate it by `|` and then another for the string where the function is contained, which will look something like `func:myFunction("Do", "Stuff")` and then pull the `func:` off and load it
L165[06:15:55] <Ko​dos> Or I guess I could just... I'm an idiot
L166[06:16:31] <Ko​dos> For some reason, it's stuck in my head that a network message is just that, a message, and I forget that you can send multiple things in one go, so I can just pre-separate it
L167[06:16:40] <Ko​dos> But I still need to break down a string based on `|` because that'
L168[06:16:56] <Ko​dos> But I still need to break down a string based on `|` because that's what the central server will be sending the data through to the dedicated blades [Edited]
L169[06:17:11] <Ko​dos> I'm probably reallly overcomplicating this but eh
L170[06:17:22] <Ko​dos> Isn't that what a computer mod in Minecraft is for?
L171[06:18:57] <Ko​dos> See there I go being an idiot again
L172[06:20:25] <Ko​dos> If I have `local dest` at the top of my program, and then use `local dest` inside a function, those are two separate variables, right? One existing inside the function, and the other outside? With the one in the function being used within the function, and the outside one elsewhere?
L173[06:24:49] <dequbed> Izaya: I'm slightly surprised you don't hate on the framework for using USB-C everywhere ;)
L174[06:25:41] <Hawk777> Kodos, yes, those would be two separate variables.
L175[06:25:46] <Ar​iri> the laptop make3 or another company?
L176[06:25:50] <Ar​iri> maker*
L177[06:26:06] <dequbed> The laptop by that maker specifically
L178[06:26:54] <Ar​iri> Gotcha
L179[06:27:27] <Ar​iri> i saw a review on it, i quite liked it
L180[06:27:28] <Ar​iri> then again i already have a usb-c laptop and wireless headphones so
L181[06:28:02] <Mic​hiyo> Personally I wish everything was USB-C already...
L182[06:28:28] <dequbed> With the framework that wish can be your reality! I mean it uses USB-C for all of its wired I/O basically.
L183[06:28:44] <Ko​dos> Neato
L184[06:37:17] <dequbed> But to be fair — with USB4 specifically — USB-C is becoming everything, except for USB :P
L185[06:41:31] <dequbed> "Ah see, no, *this* USB port is actually the HDMI port." "Yes, you can plug in *this* screen into an USB hub and have your keyboard work, but not *that* screen"
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L188[06:59:26] <Inari> Nep!
L189[06:59:54] <Inari> Amanda: beep boop indeed :p
L190[07:10:07] <Ko​dos> My eyeball feels goopy
L191[07:10:29] <Forec​aster> probably time to get a replacement
L192[07:22:37] <Va​ur> %tonkout
L193[07:22:37] <MichiBot> Fiddlesticks! Va​ur! You beat your own previous record of 9 hours, 26 minutes and 24 seconds (By 8 hours, 8 minutes and 31 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L194[07:22:38] <MichiBot> Va​ur has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.017 tonk points! plus 0.032 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 3.15432255, Position #1
L195[07:36:43] <Forec​aster> notsureifirony https://tinyurl.com/yznhaobr
L196[07:38:22] <Mic​hiyo> Yeaaaaah....
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L198[07:38:43] <NoHaxJustBad12> hi
L199[07:38:47] <Mic​hiyo> Also, CI still can't build, so even if you've got your side fixed, you can't deploy new builds :D
L200[07:39:30] <Forec​aster> well, I pulled into a new project, and now it just breaks the encoding on build
L201[07:39:51] <Forec​aster> it's correct in the files, gradle is configured to use utf-8...
L202[07:40:38] <NoHaxJustBad12> hello?\
L203[07:40:46] <Mic​hiyo> Yes. hi.
L204[07:41:51] <NoHaxJustBad12> how is everyone
L205[07:43:21] <NoHaxJustBad12> also i need help with the creatix
L206[07:43:23] <Forec​aster> frustrated
L207[07:43:42] <NoHaxJustBad12> oh
L208[07:45:01] <NoHaxJustBad12> JESUS A TORNADO JUST SPAWNED RIGHT OUTSIDE MY FRONT DOOR
L209[07:48:09] <Ko​dos> What are you wanting with creatix
L210[07:48:38] <Forec​aster> the filtered source files generated by the build process break the encoding somehow
L211[07:48:41] <Forec​aster> :|
L212[07:48:46] <NoHaxJustBad12> oh
L213[07:48:53] <NoHaxJustBad12> help on using it
L214[07:48:59] <Ko​dos> It’s just a robot
L215[07:49:07] <Forec​aster> you keep asking vague questions
L216[07:49:11] <Forec​aster> you can't do that
L217[07:49:25] <Ko​dos> You can but it likely won’t get you anywhere
L218[07:49:27] <Forec​aster> you have to ask about something specific
L219[07:49:34] <NoHaxJustBad12> how do i make it move
L220[07:49:43] <Forec​aster> read the docs on the wiki
L221[07:49:52] <NoHaxJustBad12> ok
L222[07:49:54] <Ko​dos> That’s a good place to start
L223[07:49:55] <NoHaxJustBad12> one second
L224[07:49:57] <Mic​hiyo> https://ocdoc.cil.li/api:robot?s[]=robot
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L226[07:53:30] <NoHaxJustBad12> how to i run code
L227[07:53:56] <NoHaxJustBad12> nvm
L228[08:03:54] <NoHaxJustBad12> i managed to make it go outside
L229[08:10:31] <Forecaster> good luck getting it to come back in, it'll just sit at the door and meow at you
L230[08:12:26] <NoHaxJustBad12> i got it into the room on the other side of the hall
L231[08:12:32] <NoHaxJustBad12> for research
L232[08:12:49] <NoHaxJustBad12> i guess
L233[08:17:16] <NoHaxJustBad12> hold on
L234[08:18:50] <NoHaxJu​stBad12> i managed to do things with it https://tinyurl.com/yzgrmspq
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L237[08:21:09] <NoHaxJustBad12> ok
L238[08:24:40] <NoHaxJustBad12> alright goodnight
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L240[08:25:02] <Izaya> how is one supposed to play 1.12 with a mojang account
L241[08:25:37] <NoHaxJu​stBad12> wdym
L242[08:26:55] <Mic​hiyo> With your Mojang account.
L243[08:28:41] <NoHaxJu​stBad12> i have no idea
L244[08:29:01] <s_​a_m> mmm, filesystem permissions, implemented with Jank(tm)
L245[08:50:50] <dequbed> Izaya: Just use MultiMC :P
L246[08:53:06] <dequbed> But I would regardless suggest moving your account to a Microsoft one. They're pretty good at building sensible authentication infrastructure.
L247[09:25:05] <Izaya> but it doesn't work in MultiMC yet
L248[09:32:38] <dequbed> Izaya: It works for me
L249[09:32:56] <Izaya> doesn't work for a friend that just tried
L250[09:33:01] <Izaya> there's a bug open on the tracker
L251[09:33:46] <Mic​hiyo> Theres a closed bug in the tracker too
L252[09:33:47] <Mic​hiyo> https://github.com/MultiMC/MultiMC5/issues/3392
L253[09:33:48] <MichiBot> Title: Microsoft Accounts are not supported | Posted by: l1ving | Posted: Wed Oct 21 18:04:04 UTC 2020 | Status: closed
L254[09:34:21] <Izaya> https://github.com/MultiMC/MultiMC5/issues/4050
L255[09:34:21] <MichiBot> Title: "Add Microsoft" account login cannot complete the sign-in process. | Posted by: NohanMV | Posted: Fri Aug 27 19:37:43 UTC 2021 | Status: open
L256[09:34:39] <Mic​hiyo> Yes, I'm just saying, it should work.
L257[09:35:01] <dequbed> Izaya: Just tried it. Still works.
L258[09:37:24] <Izaya> -(works on my machine)
L259[09:37:29] <dequbed> Izaya: I assume that MMC on Windows uses some WINAPI auth calls because I don't even *have* an "Add Microsoft" button
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L262[09:42:00] <dequbed> Oh nevermind. I appear to have not yet moved my account. GG me I probably tried and ADHD'ed before finishing.
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L266[10:38:48] <Forec​aster> Fixed the help page not listing dynamic commands, and also the "DynCommand who knows what it does" thing https://tinyurl.com/ygbmh5ha
L267[10:42:15] <Inari> Wish there was some space game with good space and boarding stuff (like something like space engineers? but with like actual NPC enemies and stuff happening. So it feels like an actual world xD)
L268[10:46:56] <M​GR> There aren't NPC enemies, but Starbase is supposed to be like that
L269[10:47:14] <Inari> "supposed to be"?
L270[10:48:04] <M​GR> The game is in early access, and there's a lot of bugs
L271[10:48:09] <Inari> Sad
L272[10:48:24] <Inari> In general I want games that feel more interconnected and the like... Eco is probably the only one I know of. Seems games in general drift to compartmentalizing mechanics and simplifying stuff instead of making it more interesting :p
L273[10:48:55] <M​GR> If Starbase gets better though, I'll send you a message
L274[10:48:58] <M​GR> It'd be worth a look
L275[10:50:06] <Forec​aster> probably because having non-simple mechanics is... not simple, and results in a lot of bugs and issues and costs
L276[10:50:15] <Inari> possibly
L277[10:50:22] <Inari> but them being all simple and compartmentalized is boring :P
L278[10:51:09] <Inari> Sadly it seems most people are fine just chasing questmarkers in static worlds
L279[10:51:46] <Forec​aster> then make it yourself :P
L280[10:52:07] <Inari> I wanna play it, not make it
L281[10:52:23] <Inari> also bit hard to produce at the same rate you'd consume as s ingle person :P
L282[11:07:49] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER: you were waiting for blueprints to finish do you can do part 9
L283[11:08:25] <Inari> Plus of course, making a nice feeling world tends to be a lot about hiding the systems. If you design the systems thats kinda hard to do
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L285[11:12:58] * Amanda boops Inari, runs off before she realizes what she did
L286[11:13:08] * Inari chases after Amanda
L287[11:13:24] * Amanda phases through the outer wall
L288[11:21:52] <Inari> rude
L289[11:24:09] <Inari> I guess at least there are more and more "cozy" games coming out
L290[11:27:47] <Inari> Stuff like spiritfarer, which at least is a bit different and makes an okay attempt at not just following questmarkers. Or Outward which forsakes them altogether
L291[11:27:51] <Inari> Though OUtward ins't cozy
L292[11:27:52] <Inari> xD
L293[11:28:09] <Amanda> %splash Inari with mutable green potion
L294[11:28:10] <MichiBot> You fling a mutable green potion (New!) that splashes onto Inari. Inari turns into water until they have An Eroded potion.
L295[11:28:39] <Forec​aster> %splash Inari eroded potion
L296[11:28:39] <MichiBot> You fling an eroded bombastium potion (New!) that splashes onto Inari. Inari feels like one particular wasp has it out for them suddenly.
L297[11:28:49] <Izaya> games seem separated into either story or system
L298[11:28:51] <Izaya> a lot of the time
L299[11:29:09] <Izaya> you have games that are all one or the other, also
L300[11:29:36] <Amanda> Right, back into space
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L302[11:31:40] * Amanda boops Inari again, turning her fur back to green
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L305[11:33:19] <Mic​hiyo> I got scared, yay michibot!
L306[11:35:09] <Amanda> %choose bed or chair
L307[11:35:09] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: If I had a gold nugget for every time someone asked me about "chair"
L308[11:35:20] <Amanda> Why's eveyone asking mighbot about chair?
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L310[11:36:26] <Forec​aster> we're over 1000 builds now
L311[11:37:13] <Mic​hiyo> OH
L312[11:37:15] <Mic​hiyo> fmfl
L313[11:37:19] <Mic​hiyo> Ok.... right this is an issue
L314[11:37:48] <Mic​hiyo> The server MichiBot runs from can't fetch builds from the the jenkins server.
L315[11:37:52] <Amanda> IT's Over --Nine-- One Thooouuusssannnnnndddd
L316[11:38:15] <Forec​aster> just set up a quantum tunnel
L317[11:38:17] <Mic​hiyo> MichiBot runs from the VPN server, Jenkins runs from a VPN client.
L318[11:40:05] <Mic​hiyo> I don't get it though... VPN server can ping the WINDOWS VPN clients
L319[11:40:12] <Mic​hiyo> but not the Linux VPN clients
L320[11:40:20] <Forec​aster> weird
L321[11:40:47] <Mic​hiyo> Which I assume means windows is doing something automatically with routing that linux is not
L322[11:41:02] <Mic​hiyo> anyone know what I need to do to make linux route the traffic back? lol
L323[11:41:36] <Amanda> How many goats do you have?
L324[11:41:38] <Mic​hiyo> @Forecaster I'll have to look into getting the new build out later.
L325[11:41:46] <Mic​hiyo> 0, sadly
L326[11:41:46] <Forec​aster> go to bed!
L327[11:42:08] <Amanda> go directly to bed! Do not pass go, do not collect 200$!
L328[11:42:13] <Mic​hiyo> https://paste.pc-logix.com/ekevevifix.nginx
L329[11:42:28] <Mic​hiyo> current routes on the Jenkins box, BTW. The one that the VPN server can NOT ping
L330[11:43:01] <Mic​hiyo> VPN server is 51.222.24.85, Jenkins box is 51.222.228.233
L331[11:43:31] <Mic​hiyo> Yes, the gateway REALLY IS `51.222.24.1`, thanks OVH
L332[11:43:33] <Mic​hiyo> goodnight
L333[12:19:52] <Izaya> Ariri: https://cawfee.club/media/823ce191e835f21b729842854b2da1c5a7e05a7587b82edf48698f6eef2cf0bf.png
L334[12:20:06] <Izaya> "the cold war"
L335[12:38:30] <s_​a_m> kek
L336[12:58:51] <Amanda> https://matrix.camnet.site/_matrix/media/r0/download/camnet.site/RuUfnAbjnqOkHsfRlLfgRVTP/screenshot-1630241909.png
L337[12:58:52] <Amanda> oops
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L346[14:15:51] <Inari> Amanda: whats that?
L347[14:16:05] <Forec​aster> Dyson Sphere Program
L348[14:16:11] <Amanda> Inari: ^
L349[14:16:13] <Inari> ah
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L351[14:18:53] <Amanda> I plugged in a bunch of high-power devices into the grid at once
L352[14:19:12] <Amanda> specifically, 14 interplanitary logistics towers
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L354[14:19:50] <M​GR> What do you use for power generation?
L355[14:20:16] <Amanda> buttload of wind towers, 24 solar each at the two poles
L356[14:21:07] <M​GR> Fair enough
L357[14:21:48] <Amanda> I got kinda tunnel-focused on doing part 9 of the mall I found blueprints for online, didn't consider it'd cause a massive power spike to plug in
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L360[15:19:57] <Va​ur> %tonk
L361[15:20:34] <Vaur> awh rip
L362[15:47:07] <s_​a_m> what's the term for those little strips of springy metal that help hold shit in place while also letting you move it if you want
L363[15:47:33] <Forec​aster> what?
L364[15:48:48] <ben_mkiv> spring?
L365[15:50:09] <Va​ur> >surface to ​air missile: what's the term for those little stri…
L366[15:50:09] <Va​ur> third hands ?
L367[15:50:31] <s_​a_m> not third hand
L368[15:50:51] <s_​a_m> it's just a little metal strip with a bump bent into it
L369[15:54:22] <Va​ur> I have no clue what you are talking about then
L370[16:00:28] <s_​a_m> found it, i think
L371[16:00:43] <s_​a_m> "flat spring" and i just gotta s e a r c h
L372[16:01:09] <s_​a_m> i wanted to know cause i wanna plan a thing out
L373[16:05:08] <s_​a_m> as cool as the pinephone keyboard case is, i want slidey_boi
L374[16:07:54] <Va​ur> what's slidey_boy ?
L375[16:08:23] <Forec​aster> a phone with a slide-out keyboard I'd guess
L376[16:08:38] <Forec​aster> keyboard/numpad
L377[16:09:00] <Va​ur> but ... which one ? haven't seen any of those since the late 10'
L378[16:09:08] <Forec​aster> I dunno
L379[16:11:55] <s_​a_m> i was gonna make my own pinephone case for it lmao
L380[16:12:35] <Forec​aster> oh, keyboard case
L381[16:12:39] <s_​a_m> yea
L382[16:12:44] <Forec​aster> I missed that part somehow
L383[16:13:00] <s_​a_m> i want a slide out keyboard instead of the flip open one
L384[16:13:25] <s_​a_m> preferably with a tiny trackball if i can get away with it
L385[16:16:05] <SIN​001> One with a trackpoint would be great
L386[16:16:42] <SIN​001> Also I miss the Nokia N95 and it's slider board
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L390[17:35:22] <Mic​hiyo> Alright, it's 6 hours later, anyone have any thoughts on why my VPN server can ping my windows VPN clients, but not my Linux VPN clients? I know it's something wrong with routing on the linux client, just no idea what
L391[17:36:33] <ben_mkiv> so they receive the ping but the reply doesnt reach the server?
L392[17:36:47] <Mic​hiyo> Great question, in theory yes
L393[17:37:03] <ben_mkiv> well, sounds like a messed up route then
L394[17:37:32] <Mic​hiyo> https://paste.pc-logix.com/ebumajagap.nginx
L395[17:38:23] <Mic​hiyo> It has perfect internet connectivity, it just doesn't respond to the VPN server.
L396[17:38:46] <Mic​hiyo> There is a Jenkins server running on this machine, and when the VPN server tries to connect to it it fails.
L397[17:38:51] <Mic​hiyo> pings also fail of course.
L398[17:38:56] <ben_mkiv> uhm, haven't messed with routes for years, but the first one looks sus
L399[17:39:04] <ben_mkiv> unless you want to route all traffic through vpn
L400[17:39:09] <Mic​hiyo> Yes
L401[17:39:16] <Mic​hiyo> ALL traffic is supposed to go via VPN
L402[17:39:34] <Mic​hiyo> Basically... I'm cheating.
L403[17:39:47] <ben_mkiv> then why is there a default route to your local network gateway?
L404[17:40:21] <Mic​hiyo> I have a VPS running on OVH that has 16 IPs. I have a Proxmox box running in my local network. I run a VPN server on the VPS, and I run VPN clients on the VMs. I then tell the VMs to use the OVH Public IPs as their VPN IPs
L405[17:40:22] <ben_mkiv> or is that just for a specific virtual machine? and 192.168.50.43 isn't the host?
L406[17:40:27] <Mic​hiyo> and I use stupid hacks
L407[17:40:32] <Mic​hiyo> to route the OVH IPs
L408[17:41:00] <ben_mkiv> sounds awful
L409[17:41:04] <Mic​hiyo> It is!
L410[17:41:06] <ben_mkiv> doesn't your router support vpn?
L411[17:41:07] <Mic​hiyo> But.. it mostly works
L412[17:41:07] <Ko​dos> Which one of you hosts the SE server?
L413[17:41:23] <Ko​dos> (General question to the staff)
L414[17:41:37] <Mic​hiyo> I do not currently host a SE server.
L415[17:41:48] <Mic​hiyo> Yes, it does.. but that's not the point.
L416[17:42:06] <Mic​hiyo> I don't want anything else on the network on the VPN. strictly these VMs on the proxmox box
L417[17:42:08] <Forec​aster> Lizzy has one I think
L418[17:42:30] <ben_mkiv> so those are the routes of the proxmox box? (whatever that is)
L419[17:43:09] <Mic​hiyo> At one point the Proxmox host ran the VM client, and routed everyone directly over it but that proved to be a bigger headache, so then I just moved to all of the VMs having their own VPN clients and connecting to the VPN server directly
L420[17:43:29] <Mic​hiyo> Nope, those are the routes of this one, single, specific, VM
L421[17:43:40] <Mic​hiyo> (well, container, but that's BASICALLY a VM)
L422[17:44:17] <Mic​hiyo> https://tinyurl.com/yhjo93n3
L423[17:44:54] <Mic​hiyo> At one point the Proxmox host ran the VPN client, and routed everyone directly over it but that proved to be a bigger headache, so then I just moved to all of the VMs having their own VPN clients and connecting to the VPN server directly [Edited]
L424[17:46:41] <Mic​hiyo> For reference https://paste.pc-logix.com/oveyoxedac This is the route, and IP information for this specific VM.
L425[17:47:58] <Mic​hiyo> Don't... don't let the fact that the gateway for 51.222.228.233 is 51.222.24.1 hurt your head too much...
L426[17:48:51] <Mic​hiyo> OVH's IP configuration get's far FAR worse
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L428[17:55:10] <NoHaxJustBad12> hello
L429[17:56:29] <Ocawes​ome101> i'm pondering how best to do a window management API
L430[17:57:02] <Ocawes​ome101> i want something better than UWM, because UWM evolved out of UTM which was not designed for the things a full-fat window manager needs to be able to do
L431[17:57:49] <Ocawes​ome101> i'm thinking something similar to real-world display servers, where applications tell the server what to display and the server sends back input
L432[17:58:27] <Ocawes​ome101> also ideally resizable windows would be possible - i can think of a way to do that with buffers
L433[17:58:51] <Ocawes​ome101> specifically, allocate a new buffer of the new size and `bitblt` the old buffer to it, then remove the old buffer
L434[17:59:07] <Ocawes​ome101> that's quite vram hungry (particularly for larger buffers) but i think it would work
L435[17:59:07] <Mic​hiyo> mmmmmm blt
L436[17:59:47] <ben_mkiv> %choice WM or sandwich
L437[17:59:58] <Ocawes​ome101> i'm also considering having it support rendering without GPU buffer support - with enough optimizations that could still be fairly snappy i think
L438[18:00:00] <Forec​aster> oh yeah, MB died
L439[18:00:07] <Mic​hiyo> %testr
L440[18:00:10] <Ocawes​ome101> it'd require a lot of work, though
L441[18:00:12] <ben_mkiv> %choose BLT WM or BLT sandwich
L442[18:00:13] <Mic​hiyo> %test
L443[18:00:16] <Mic​hiyo> oh
L444[18:00:18] <Mic​hiyo> died?
L445[18:00:19] <Mic​hiyo> when?
L446[18:00:21] <Mic​hiyo> wat
L447[18:00:23] <NoHaxJustBad12> %sip
L448[18:00:23] <ben_mkiv> no route to host :P
L449[18:00:25] <NoHaxJustBad12> oh
L450[18:00:27] <NoHaxJustBad12> damn
L451[18:00:27] <Forec​aster> shortly after you left
L452[18:00:31] <Forec​aster> it just quit
L453[18:02:05] <Ko​dos> Okay, I'm having a lot more fun than I thought I would with this
L454[18:02:22] <Ko​dos> Though I wish I had just a biiit more steam credit so I could grab the DLCs I want now lmao
L455[18:03:05] <Forec​aster> did you buy SE?
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L458[18:03:32] <ben_mkiv> %choice BLT WM or BLT sandwich
L459[18:03:40] <Forec​aster> it's choose
L460[18:03:45] <ben_mkiv> %choose BLT WM or BLT sandwich
L461[18:03:57] <Mic​hiyo> and it still takes about 45 seconds after startup :P
L462[18:03:59] <ben_mkiv> %blame Forecaster
L463[18:04:04] <MichiBot> ben_​mkiv: Elementary dear Watson, "BLT sandwich" is the obvious choice!
L464[18:04:05] <MichiBot> ben_​mkiv: BLT WM'os, for a complete breakfast!
L465[18:04:06] * MichiBot blames Forecaster for forgetting to feed the tentacle pit
L466[18:04:17] <Forec​aster> oh, I guess there's an alias to choice
L467[18:04:19] <ben_mkiv> wait what
L468[18:04:21] <Forec​aster> %alias choice
L469[18:04:22] <MichiBot> Forec​aster: 'choose' aliases: [choice, pick]
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L471[18:13:01] <NoHaxJustBad12> %sip
L472[18:13:01] <MichiBot> You drink a freezing aether potion (New!). NoHaxJustBad12's radiation level goes up by 3. NoHaxJustBad12's radiation level is 3.
L473[18:19:58] <Ko​dos> >Forec​aster: did you buy SE?
L474[18:19:58] <Ko​dos> No I've owned it, but never really enjoyed it. Now, I haven't played in quite some time, and now it's not the game it used to be, survival is actually fun
L475[18:21:09] <NoHaxJustBad12> %sip
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L481[18:36:45] <Forec​aster> hmm, weird
L482[18:36:47] <Forec​aster> @Michiyo
L483[18:36:57] <Mic​hiyo> Yes?
L484[18:37:05] <Forec​aster> oh it rejoined this time
L485[18:37:28] <Mic​hiyo> Correct
L486[18:37:29] <Mic​hiyo> * MichiBot VERSION MichiBot Build# 1.1.0_1001
L487[18:37:36] <Forec​aster> ah
L488[18:37:45] <Mic​hiyo> I cheated....
L489[18:38:02] <Mic​hiyo> I told curl and wget to use specific interfaces and ip addresses to connect/download..
L490[18:38:41] <Forec​aster> I think I messed something up https://tinyurl.com/yjpf8wp6
L491[18:39:26] <Forec​aster> cause that looks like a description rather than the raw command
L492[19:35:38] <Va​ur> %sip
L493[19:35:39] <MichiBot> You drink a wild pear potion (New!). Once empty the potion bottle fills with a different potion.
L494[19:35:56] <Va​ur> %tonk
L495[19:35:56] <MichiBot> Bejabbers! Va​ur! You beat your own previous record of <0 (By 12 hours, 13 minutes and 19 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L496[19:35:57] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 12 hours, 13 minutes and 19 seconds! No points gained for stealing from yourself. (Lost out on 0.01222)
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L498[19:41:33] <Mic​hiyo> https://tinyurl.com/yz35vm5e
L499[19:41:40] <Mic​hiyo> https://paste.pc-logix.com/raw/uvitusowas
L500[19:41:47] <Mic​hiyo> a new feature coming to a MichiBot near you
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L503[19:46:10] zsh sets mode: +v on MichiBot
L504[19:47:10] <Mic​hiyo> %lua https://paste.pc-logix.com/raw/uvitusowas
L505[19:47:11] <MichiBot> Line 1 | Line 2 | Line 3 | Line 4 | Line 5 | Line 6 | Line 7 | Line 8 | Line 9 | Line 10 | Line 11 | Line 12
L506[19:47:47] <Mic​hiyo> So, now with this, you can run multi line lua scripts (as long as the site you are running from gives you a way to get RAW output like the above. no HTML output etc
L507[19:47:57] <Mic​hiyo> no more having to split commands out over 15 messages
L508[19:48:13] <Mic​hiyo> So, now with this, you can run multi line lua scripts (as long as the site you are running from gives you a way to get RAW output like the above. no HTML output etc) [Edited]
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L510[20:13:18] <Ko​dos> So GitHub and Pastebin basically
L511[20:13:22] <Ko​dos> And your site
L512[20:13:51] <Forec​aster> or just a lua file hosted anywhere
L513[20:14:10] <Ko​dos> Not even sure you need the extension, if the bot assumes it's Lua
L514[20:16:14] <Forec​aster> it doesn't care about extensions, I was referring to the contents
L515[20:16:42] <Ko​dos> Indeed. goes back to learning SE's programming
L516[20:17:33] <Forec​aster> I'm still sad I've lost my HUD script I wrote for my drones when I thoughtlessly deleted my previous world >:
L517[20:18:23] <Ko​dos> Right now I'm just trying to learn syntax and stuff, I thought I'd start with something "Simple" like a light that gets color shifted from Green > Yellow > Red based on fill level of all inventories
L518[20:18:41] <Ko​dos> So I can have a light on the ass end of my miners, freighters, etc, that at a glance tell me how full they are
L519[20:19:14] <Ko​dos> I can do it in Lua, I just don't have a clue about C#
L520[20:19:35] <Forec​aster> the HUD I made updated a tranparent screen in front of the forward facing camera on the drones and displayed used storage and charge level
L521[20:20:10] <Forec​aster> I don't know if I had a copy outside of the game, if so I can't find it >:
L522[20:20:20] <Forec​aster> and I forgot they were in there when I deleted the world
L523[20:20:31] <Ko​dos> Do you have any other code for basic stuff I can read over?
L524[20:20:50] <Ko​dos> I don't really learn all that well from videos and reading, not nearly as much as I learn from reading actual implementation
L525[20:23:35] <Ko​dos> People are dumb af; "Oh Ida's here, let me take a selfie https://tinyurl.com/yzh5qnbu
L526[20:23:51] <Forec​aster> that's the only thing I've written for SE
L527[20:24:06] <Forec​aster> I just had to read the docs and figure it out, and I wish I had a copy of it
L528[20:37:14] <Forec​aster> and now I'll have to do that again if I want to re-write it.
L529[20:37:54] <Forec​aster> but that's what I get for not saving a copy outside of the game where I can easily find it
L530[20:39:01] <Va​ur> damn spambot are getting worst on discord
L531[21:09:11] <Ko​dos> Just got a free, brand new LG Ultra Slim external DVD Writer. As in I peeled the protective plastic film off the top of it
L532[21:10:09] <Ko​dos> Guy across the street from my building was having a yard sale this weekend, I finally had the energy to go check it out, I asked him how much it was because I didn't see a tag, but it was still in the box, he said just take it, i'm so done with this yard sale lmao
L533[21:10:57] <Ko​dos> Works out great since my PC doesn't have an optical drive
L534[21:12:39] <Ko​dos> Izaya, have you ever made anything in OC that was too big for a T3 HDD?
L535[21:16:05] <Mic​hiyo> Nice Kodos
L536[21:16:55] <Ko​dos> Now I just need CD-Rs 😄
L537[21:17:01] <Ko​dos> And, you know, a reason to use it
L538[21:17:14] <Ko​dos> I guess I could rip my music collection into my iTunes
L539[21:17:19] <Mic​hiyo> I need an optical drive... >_>
L540[21:17:31] <Ko​dos> Did you also build a PC without one
L541[21:18:37] <Mic​hiyo> my case has a single 5 1/4 which has a 8 port USB hub lol
L542[21:18:48] <Ko​dos> Lol I don't think my case even has one
L543[21:18:49] <Mic​hiyo> I gave the roommate my BD burner.. lol
L544[21:18:54] <Ko​dos> It's a Fractal Design Meshify-C
L545[21:20:43] <Ko​dos> Lmao I'm playing TES: Blades on my phone, and I run into an NPC and when I ask her what she does for a living, she just says "I hope to be a great conjurer some day, but for now all I can seem to summon is disappointment" and I felt that
L546[21:21:07] <Mic​hiyo> lol...
L547[21:21:08] <Mic​hiyo> oof
L548[21:21:44] <Ko​dos> Well shoot, while I cook do I play Minecraft, more SE, or drag my T9 around a quick and dirty trade route
L549[21:27:24] <Ko​dos> I agree, Minecraft sounds delightful
L550[21:33:18] <Ko​dos> I just went through all 499 Animated Avatars in the points shop on Steam and not a single one looked good 😦
L551[21:37:32] <Mic​hiyo> >Ko​dos: So GitHub and Pastebin basically
L552[21:37:32] <Mic​hiyo> pastebin, github, hastebin, my paste site, pasteio, seriously... most paste sites have a "RAW" option
L553[21:37:48] <Ko​dos> Yeah, I just meant like.... nvm lol
L554[21:39:14] ⇨ Joins: Michiyo (webchat@50.38.58.88)
L555[21:39:14] zsh sets mode: +o on Michiyo
L556[21:40:22] <Mic​hiyo> So... I've decided I'm sick of my current job. I'm applying for a IT job.... with the and I'm 100% serious here... the Secret Service.
L557[21:40:37] <Ko​dos> That'd be cool
L558[21:40:50] <Ko​dos> I should reach out to the CIA and FBI and see if they'll send me new patches
L559[21:45:43] <Mic​hiyo> But yeah... decent raise, and sane hours..
L560[21:52:02] ⇦ Quits: immibis (~hexchat@62.156.144.218) (Remote host closed the connection)
L561[21:52:36] <Inari> Damn, Michiyo is gonna be unter surveillance
L562[21:52:40] <Inari> I won't be able to talk freely here anymore
L563[21:55:29] <Mic​hiyo> lmao
L564[21:55:43] <Mic​hiyo> I mean.. I got REALLY bad news.
L565[21:55:51] <Mic​hiyo> I'm ALREADY on some watch lists.
L566[21:56:20] <Inari> :f
L567[21:56:31] <Mic​hiyo> And this channel is already logged publicly, on a domain I own
L568[21:56:57] <Inari> How does one know they're on watch lists anyway
L569[21:58:09] <Mic​hiyo> Due to pasts experiences, and knowing the stuff that I know. I would be VERY surprised if I wasn't on a few lists. I DO NOT know that I am on them.. but yeah.
L570[21:58:20] <Inari> Right
L571[21:58:26] <Mic​hiyo> Matter of fact those past experiences MAY stop me from getting the job.
L572[21:58:35] <Inari> f
L573[21:58:35] <Mic​hiyo> I have had past run ins with the FBI
L574[21:58:47] <Inari> sounds scary
L575[21:59:47] <Mic​hiyo> I was a dumb teenager, with access to a good internet connection, and lots of free time as I was homeschooled. I'll leave it at that.
L576[22:00:02] <Inari> xD
L577[22:00:08] <Inari> I've heard such stories
L578[22:00:28] <Mic​hiyo> Also, I had a pay phone on the street corner, and I was good with electronics.
L579[22:01:22] <Ar​iri> inb4 Michiyo was IRL David Lightman
L580[22:02:12] <Mic​hiyo> lmao
L581[22:02:24] <Mic​hiyo> I mean....
L582[22:03:21] <Ar​iri> :P
L583[22:03:34] <Ko​dos> If you have to ask if you're on a list, you probably are
L584[22:04:09] <Mic​hiyo> But yeah.. it'll either hurt or help my chances lmao
L585[22:06:05] ⇦ Quits: Inari (~Pinkishu@p4fd95f16.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Quit: KVIrc 5.0.0 Aria http://www.kvirc.net/)
L586[22:06:07] ⇦ Quits: Vexatos (~Vexatos@port-92-192-36-119.dynamic.as20676.net) (Quit: Insert quantum chemistry joke here)
L587[22:08:54] <Ko​dos> I wonder if I could use a Logitech Drive Force Shifter for throttle control in Elite
L588[22:09:40] <Mic​hiyo> Man... when we move I REALLY hope my new room has more space for my desk
L589[22:09:54] <Ko​dos> Are you looking forward to moving again so soon?
L590[22:09:57] <Mic​hiyo> Then I can setup my HOTAS
L591[22:10:04] <Ko​dos> I know your relocation to PNW was not long ago
L592[22:10:05] <Mic​hiyo> We've been here for ~3 years
L593[22:10:11] <Ko​dos> Damn, has it been that long?
L594[22:10:24] <Ko​dos> I remember when you were working the Radio Shack in AR
L595[22:10:26] <Mic​hiyo> They are jacking our rent up by ~205, the max allowed by the state this year
L596[22:10:30] <Mic​hiyo> we can't afford it.
L597[22:10:44] <Ko​dos> Too bad the moratorium isn't still in effect
L598[22:11:35] <Mic​hiyo> Roommate works @ a bank, one of her co-workers owns a rental house that she is looking to rent to us for what we are currently renting this shitty appt for
L599[22:11:46] <Mic​hiyo> This is 3 beds for like ~2500
L600[22:11:57] <Mic​hiyo> new place is 5 bed 3 bath
L601[22:12:03] <Ko​dos> You don't want to know what I was paying at my 3 bedroom house I was renting
L602[22:12:26] <Mic​hiyo> With utilities we're paying like 3k right now
L603[22:12:33] <Mic​hiyo> my half is $1550
L604[22:12:49] <Mic​hiyo> I pay a bit more cause it's 4 of us, to their 2..
L605[22:55:30] <Izaya> Kodos: yes, the dump of every crafting recipe in the game
L606[22:55:42] <Izaya> so I wrote a lib for stream compression to get around it
L607[23:08:43] <Mic​hiyo> >Ko​dos: You don't want to know what I was paying…
L608[23:08:43] <Mic​hiyo> IDK Kodos... I might
L609[23:09:10] <Mic​hiyo> Also... fuck it
L610[23:09:14] <Mic​hiyo> I'm digging the AC out
L611[23:31:24] <Ko​dos> $250 a month not including utilities
L612[23:33:11] <Mic​hiyo> fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
L613[23:33:52] <Mic​hiyo> my Father-in-law's mortgage was $450 for a 3 bed 2 bath house back in AR....
L614[23:33:54] <Mic​hiyo> sigh
L615[23:34:34] <Mic​hiyo> I mean sure I make fucking $25 an hour out here.. but I pay 90% of that in god damn rent and utilities.
L616[23:34:58] <Corded> * <Mic​hiyo> sighs
L617[23:35:30] <Ko​dos> https://tenor.com/view/math-numbers-confused-when-he-say-hes-straight-what-gif-7675506
L618[23:39:56] <Mic​hiyo> Yeah... good times.
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