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L4[01:15:09] <Cyborg​Potato> %tonk BA30E
L5[01:15:09] <MichiBot> Cyborg​Potato: You should probably read this: https://michibot.pc-logix.com/tonk
L6[01:15:37] <Cyborg​Potato> %tonk E221C
L7[01:15:38] <MichiBot> Jeepers! Cyborg​Potato! You beat Va​ur's previous record of 5 hours, 1 minute and 21 seconds (By 3 hours, 39 minutes and 18 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L8[01:15:39] <MichiBot> CyborgPotato's new record is 8 hours, 40 minutes and 40 seconds! CyborgPotato also gained 0.02196 (0.00366 x 6) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #11. (Overtook Saphire) Need 0.00014 more points to pass Em​mi!
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L20[07:37:12] <Forec​aster> >ShadowzO​fTheDark: I noticed that detail but I can't receive t…
L21[07:37:13] <Forec​aster> "tablet messages"?
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L51[07:51:02] <Va​ur> %sip
L52[07:51:02] <MichiBot> You drink a sour electrum potion (New!). Vaur feels chill.
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L54[07:58:56] <Forec​aster> %sip
L55[07:58:56] <MichiBot> You drink a sour dalekanium potion (New!). Forecaster sees the sky briefly flash solid dark blue then go back to normal.
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L60[10:46:36] <Forec​aster> %tonk
L61[10:46:37] <MichiBot> Heckgosh! Forec​aster! You beat Cyborg​Potato's previous record of 8 hours, 40 minutes and 40 seconds (By 50 minutes and 18 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L62[10:46:38] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 9 hours, 30 minutes and 58 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.00756 (0.00084 x 9) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need 0.54263185 more points to pass Va​ur!
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L71[12:52:30] <Amanda> %tell Inari have you heard the good mews?
L72[12:52:31] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Inari will be notified of this message when next seen.
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L75[15:20:07] <Wat​tana> >Cor​ded: zsh ha​s joined #oc on IRC
L76[15:20:07] <Wat​tana> somethings super sus about this
L77[15:21:12] <Wat​tana> most of the time a mass joins happens it means there's probably going to be a mass botting situation
L78[15:21:38] <Wat​tana> wait
L79[15:21:48] <ThePi​Guy24> its just a netsplit
L80[15:21:48] <Wat​tana> now that i look at it more closely its like a mass reconnect
L81[15:22:46] <Wat​tana> >ThePi​Guy24: its just a netsplit
L82[15:22:46] <Wat​tana> i see
L83[15:24:33] <Amanda> also really most bottings are more subtle,only connecting one or two at a time and spamming,rotating them out as they're banned
L84[15:24:57] <Amanda> gives the botting more stamina or something, I gues
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L86[15:49:19] <ironmountain> o/
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L88[15:50:13] <Forec​aster> hiokaybye
L89[16:28:52] <ShadowzO​fTheDark> >Forec​aster: "tablet messages"?
L90[16:28:52] <ShadowzO​fTheDark> I'm making 1 or two tablets with linked cards in them and I want to receive their messages into a main control computer that can then relay them to various other things i'd like to control remotely from anywhere.
L91[16:30:23] <Forec​aster> you can just put the linked card into a relay
L92[16:30:49] <ShadowzO​fTheDark> Yes but then the relay broadcasts the message on port 0 meaning I can't get the message with a normal network card
L93[16:31:19] <ShadowzO​fTheDark> If i were receiving the signal from another relay with the card in it then it'd be fine but since the messages are coming straight from the linked card in the tablet that won't work.
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L95[16:40:35] <Forec​aster> ah yeah, that's true
L96[16:40:59] <Forec​aster> the tablet can't relay a normal message through the linked card
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L99[17:35:12] <Aio> Hello!
L100[17:36:05] <Forec​aster> Hi
L101[17:40:15] <Wat​tana> do discussions about oc2 go in here or #more-off-topic-than-oc 🤔
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L103[17:40:51] <Aio> what is oc2?
L104[17:41:17] <Aio> I'm new to IRC so i don't know much
L105[17:41:18] <Forec​aster> pretty much everything goes in here
L106[17:41:43] <Forec​aster> oc2 is another computer mod made by the original oc author but using different architecture
L107[17:42:09] <Aio> what version is it for?
L108[17:42:15] <Forec​aster> 1.16
L109[17:42:37] <Wat​tana> it seems to be using a VM running the RISC architecture
L110[17:42:44] <Wat​tana> it kinda of intimidates me 👀
L111[17:42:53] <Wat​tana> it kind of intimidates me 👀 [Edited]
L112[17:42:59] <Forec​aster> I haven't even looked at it
L113[17:43:19] <Wat​tana> i looked at some of the issues and discussions on the gh repo and things seem to be pointing in that direction
L114[17:43:34] <Aio> oh ok, i mainly use 1.7.10 but might check it out later.
L115[17:43:54] <Wat​tana> if OC2 computers gonna run on RISC then how do I even make a custom OS. Do I write them in ASM?
L116[17:44:14] <Amanda> yup, or asm to bootstrap into C/C++/Rust/Whatever
L117[17:44:20] <Forec​aster> it's RISCV I think?
L118[17:44:39] <Forec​aster> not something I've ever done anything with
L119[17:44:49] <Forec​aster> I might look at oc2 when it's more complete
L120[17:45:10] <Aio> it's not done?
L121[17:45:55] <Forec​aster> it's not released yet
L122[17:46:46] <Aio> oh, is there any release date know yet?
L123[17:46:55] <Forec​aster> no
L124[17:47:08] <Wat​tana> >Ama​nda: yup, or asm to bootstrap into C/C++/Rust…
L125[17:47:08] <Wat​tana> > asm to bootstrap into C/C++/Rust/Whatever
L126[17:47:08] <Wat​tana> wdym?
L127[17:47:26] <Amanda> You didn't really think modern oses are all pure asm did you?
L128[17:47:55] <Amanda> they're asm to get into a setup that the kernel can use to run higher level languages
L129[17:47:55] <Wat​tana> OH you mean using ASM to load other compiled C codes
L130[17:48:10] <Wat​tana> OH you mean using ASM to load other codes compiled from higher level languages [Edited]
L131[17:50:25] <Amanda> You've also got to set up the environment into a way the higher level languages can understand, also. Can't just "call into" them from pure asm with no setuo
L132[17:50:41] <Amanda> that's generally called bootstrapping
L133[17:51:37] <Wat​tana> >Ama​nda: You've also got to set up the environmen…
L134[17:51:38] <Wat​tana> I was about to ask if it's as easy as calling a jump to the entry point of the C codes.
L135[17:52:01] <Wat​tana> So OC2 is basically OC where computers run actual machine codes
L136[17:52:14] <Amanda> yes. It's based around a pure-java RISCV vm
L137[17:52:27] <Wat​tana> Guess I better switch up my ASM coding skills
L138[17:52:41] <Wat​tana> all I know is how to do 6502 "print" macro
L139[17:53:22] <Amanda> That said there are some C++ projects for "microkernels" C++ code that runs right on the CPU, which can take care of the bootstrapping for you
L140[17:53:46] <Amanda> I was toying with using a similar thing for rust awhile back, couldn't figute it out
L141[17:56:58] <Va​ur> %sip
L142[17:56:58] <MichiBot> You drink a warpy tiberium potion (New!). Vaur spots a shiny thing!
L143[17:58:27] <Hawk777> Looking forward to trying OC2 once it’s ready, myself! Is it going to be able to interact with the world (redstone, inventories, blocks, crafting, and lots of mod content) as OC can? Not necessarily in the same way, but somehow?
L144[17:59:06] <Amanda> Hawk777: yup. JSON-based RPC protocol over some kind of virt char device
L145[17:59:22] <Amanda> s/virt/virtio/
L146[17:59:23] <MichiBot> <Amanda> Hawk777: yup. JSON-based RPC protocol over some kind of virtio char device
L147[17:59:42] <Hawk777> Interesting choice, but good to know!
L148[17:59:59] <Hawk777> It’s definitely on my list of things to include when I move to 1.16.
L149[18:00:08] <Amanda> I think it's also planned for mods to be able to provide proper virtualised hardware
L150[18:00:23] <Amanda> but last I looked the readme specifically said not to use the API
L151[18:00:28] <Hawk777> Haha still does.
L152[18:00:31] <Amanda> ( Probably because it's still in flux _
L153[18:01:34] <Wat​tana> How would hw access work?
L154[18:01:43] <Wat​tana> memory mapped?
L155[18:02:05] <Wat​tana> memory mapped like how you write characters on c64's screen by writing to a certain region in memory? [Edited]
L156[18:02:25] <Amanda> The screen in the mod is done via a virtualied UART driver
L157[18:03:03] <Wat​tana> is that harder to use than memory-mapped?
L158[18:03:20] <Amanda> Not sure, that's what made me stop trying with my rust experiment
L159[18:04:16] <Amanda> but I wasn't sure it was because I was doing it wrong, or if qemu just uses a different thing
L160[18:07:08] <Wat​tana> I wonder if OC2 is going to come out before or after Godot 4 🤔
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L162[18:12:36] <Aio> I have to go now, bye
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L164[18:43:53] <Wat​tana> pretty random stuff but i hope oc2 won't ever get stuck on a specific version like oc
L165[18:44:11] <Wat​tana> thats it ima sleep now
L166[18:47:00] <Forec​aster> oc isn't on a specific version, it's on 1.7 through 1.12
L167[18:58:15] <ThePi​Guy24> oc hasnt gone beyond 1.12 because noone* has wanted to put the effort into porting it to a newer version
L168[18:58:44] <ThePi​Guy24> *there have been attempt(s) but not particularly complete
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L171[19:36:04] <dequbed> @Wattana the best way of making sure that never happens is to help maintain & port the mod yourself ;)
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L173[20:00:35] <n​il> %tonk
L174[20:00:36] <MichiBot> I'm sorry nil, you were not able to beat Forecaster's record of 9 hours, 30 minutes and 58 seconds this time. 9 hours, 13 minutes and 58 seconds were wasted! Missed by 16 minutes and 59 seconds!
L175[20:00:45] <n​il> f-...
L176[20:00:49] <n​il> FUCK
L177[20:04:54] <Amanda> %choose convert ssd to butter?
L178[20:04:55] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Yes! Do it now!
L179[20:05:23] <Amanda> jeez, so demanding
L180[20:06:43] <Hawk777> Butter butter butter!
L181[20:06:50] * Hawk777 uses it on top of bcache, since he has a small SSD
L182[20:07:02] <Amanda> bcache?
L183[20:07:20] <Hawk777> bcache lets you use a small, fast disk as a nonvolatile cache for a large, slow disk.
L184[20:07:34] <Amanda> I see
L185[20:07:42] <Amanda> interesting idea
L186[20:08:11] <Hawk777> Actually if I understand correctly it lets you use one *or more* small fast disks as cache for one *or more* large slow disks, but I only use it 1:1.
L187[20:08:39] <Hawk777> Can be configured writeback (to improve the speed of writes) or writethrough (so that if the SSD explodes you don’t lose any data).
L188[20:16:50] <dequbed> Amanda: Basically, tiered storage for *nix. If you (roughly) know which files you'll need how often you can put every file in the medium that makes the the most cost/power/average-access-speed-for-any-given-hardware efficient.
L189[20:18:41] <Amanda> I'm considering nuking my spinning rust drive to turn it into an LVM device so that my homelab's vms are hopefully faster than blobs on btrfs as it currently is
L190[20:20:42] <Amanda> at least, I assume giving something that generally expects block devices will be faster than using blobs on a fs, espically on spinning rust
L191[20:21:44] <Amanda> waiting to see what
L192[20:21:55] <Amanda> 's using so much space on the spinning rust atm though
L193[20:25:51] <Forec​aster> %tonkout
L194[20:25:51] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Forec​aster, you were not able to beat Forec​aster's record of 9 hours, 30 minutes and 58 seconds this time. 25 minutes and 15 seconds were wasted! Missed by 9 hours, 5 minutes and 43 seconds!
L195[20:26:14] <Forec​aster> oh, shoot
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L201[22:25:17] <Amanda> Ariri: did you give cyberpunk "magical" girl a try yet?
L202[22:25:57] <Amanda> s/girl/catgirl/
L203[22:25:58] <MichiBot> <Amanda> Ariri: did you give cyberpunk "magical" catgirl a try yet?
L204[22:26:22] * Amanda snugs Elfi, contemplates if she wants to continue computering this afternoon.
L205[22:26:55] <Amanda> %choose laptop nap time or halucinate then decide
L206[22:26:56] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: The proof is in the pudding. Definitely "halucinate then decide". Now please get it out of my pudding.
L207[22:27:32] * Amanda adds more magic mushrooms to MichiBot's pudding
L208[22:50:57] <Ko​dos> Anyone play with Advanced Rocketry and Stargate Network alongside OC?
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L212[23:49:51] <Ko​dos> Time to write an automatic gate dialing program to archive addresses
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