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L6[01:42:50]
<Vaur>
%tonk
L7[01:42:51] <MichiBot> Dad-Sizzle! Vaur!
You beat your own previous record of 19 minutes and 58 seconds (By
7 hours, 24 minutes and 13 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L8[01:42:52] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is
7 hours, 44 minutes and 11 seconds! No points gained for stealing
from yourself. (Lost out on 0.0074)
L9[02:01:41] <Amanda> %choose halucinate or
irradiate
L10[02:01:42] <MichiBot> Amanda: I have a
pamphlet that says never to engage in "halucinate", so
you should definitely do it!
L11[02:01:48] <Amanda> sounds good
L13[02:09:47]
<Michiyo>
\o/
L15[02:30:20]
<Saghetti>
just stopping by to say i'm only 13
L16[02:30:27]
<Saghetti>
i'm turning 14 in a month so it's about time i said
L17[02:30:32]
<Saghetti>
cc: @Kristopher38 @Ocawesome101
L18[02:31:13]
<ThePiGuy24> xd how are half the good
programmers here like 5 or so years younger than me and im only
18
L19[02:31:38]
<Saghetti>
i started programming when i was like 7
L20[02:31:42]
<Saghetti>
i may have gotten a head start
L21[02:31:56]
<Saghetti>
it was just shitty scratch projects and python scripts tho
L22[02:32:07]
<Shuudoushi> @ThePiGuy24how do you think I
feel. I'm 30 and suck ass at programming XD
L23[02:35:07]
<ThePiGuy24> xd
L24[02:35:19]
<Michiyo>
@Shuudoushi are you still using my server for oc stuff?
L25[02:35:21]
<Shuudoushi> btw, getting drunk while
trying to learn c++ is not a great idea, lulz
L26[02:35:47]
<ThePiGuy24> getting drunk is not a great
idea anywhen but i still do it ;p
L27[02:36:15]
<Shuudoushi> @Michiyowhen possible. work
has had be bogged down, not to mention my THOSANDS of projects I
keep taking on because I'm fuckng retarded
L28[02:36:33]
<Michiyo>
Ah.. well..
L29[02:36:46]
<Michiyo>
I'll try to save your home directory then
L30[02:37:01]
<Shuudoushi> danke schon
L31[02:38:56]
<Shuudoushi> @Michiyothanks to my constant
uploading to my laptop for editing (because cmd line text editing),
I got basically all info of importance saved off the server
L33[02:45:33]
<Michiyo>
Been migrating OVH stuff over to my home server, down to that box
being the last one... been putting it off for as long as possible,
but want to have everything off so I can cancel it.
L34[02:45:51]
<Shuudoushi> feel ya
L35[02:45:55]
<Michiyo>
Got the 10GB link working on the Proxmox and fileserver so no more
bottle neck for iSCSI
L36[02:46:12]
<Shuudoushi> i seent, noice :3
L37[02:46:58]
<Michiyo>
At this point iSCSI speeds should be roughly the same as if the
disks were local
L38[02:48:04]
<Shuudoushi> I've been trying to talk the
property owner of the place I'm staying now to let me fiber all
over, but he's not feelin' it :/
L39[02:48:38]
<Michiyo>
lol
L40[02:49:14]
<Shuudoushi> I'm stuck on 100 mb/s local
network my dudes, big sadge
L41[02:49:26]
<Michiyo>
100 o_O but why
L42[02:49:43]
<Shuudoushi> because it's what was
installed 20 years ago...
L43[02:49:48]
<Shuudoushi> not even joking...
L44[02:50:58]
<Shuudoushi> I HAD to upgrade the cables
between my local switch and the modem to cat6 because the ORIGINAL
cat5 (not even cat5e) fucking died
L45[02:51:36]
<Ocawesome101> @Saghetti huh I thought you
said you were 16
L46[02:51:49]
<Shuudoushi> big oof
L47[02:52:24]
<Saghetti>
i said i was 16 because that was what i told everyone else
L48[02:52:34]
<Ocawesome101> Fair enough :P
L49[02:52:38]
<Saghetti>
i originally said i was 16 to fake my way into buildtheearth
L50[02:52:46]
<Saghetti>
that was the minimum age
L51[02:53:12]
<Shuudoushi> I say ban the saghetti for
lieing about their age!
L52[02:53:14]
<Shuudoushi> jk
L53[02:53:15]
<Ocawesome101> Aaah
L54[02:53:28]
<Saghetti>
i made my old discord account when i was 10
L55[02:53:34]
<Saghetti>
but you can't ban me anymore
L56[02:53:42]
<Saghetti>
because this is a new acc
L57[02:53:46]
<Saghetti>
that i made after i turned 13
L58[02:53:53]
<Ocawesome101> Tbh you could totally pass
for 16
L59[02:54:38]
<Shuudoushi> hmmm...
L60[02:54:59]
<Saghetti>
>/bin/ocawesome --101: Tbh you could totally pass for 16
L61[02:54:59]
<Saghetti>
people think i'm 17-18 usually
L62[02:55:02]
<Saghetti>
just by being in a vc
L63[02:55:07]
<Shuudoushi> should I build a m.2 raid
array for this shitty rpi, or no
L64[02:55:35]
<Ocawesome101> I mean - my voice sounds
like that of someone much older than me also so I get that
L65[02:57:18]
<Shuudoushi> idk what I sound like. I
think the only people here that has heard my voice is inari and
michiyo, and that's been a LONG time ago
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L67[03:46:07] <Izaya> Ariri: oddly fitting
that minecraft and KSP stabilise on the same version :^)
L68[05:02:10] *
Amanda shakes paw at all these youths! She didn't start programming
until like 13, and has now been doing it for more than the average
age of this. Channel
L69[05:02:44] *
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L70[05:03:53] <Amanda> Night nerds
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L74[05:59:44] <Farrt> Yal
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<bad at
vijya> yal
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L78[06:44:54] <Izaya> l need haruhi
L79[06:45:28]
<bad at
vijya> huh?
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L81[06:46:56] <Izaya> y'all need
haruhi
L82[06:51:43]
<Kleadron>
ok so post it
L84[07:19:04]
<Kleadron>
cool
L85[07:36:11] <dequbed> @Ocawesome101 It's
pretty difficult to tell a persons age just via chat anyway.
Especially one where like here that rarely enough features real
life stuff where you can judge age by maturity :P
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L87[07:46:37]
<SoraFirestorm> Who is considered the lead
dev of OC these days anyways? Seems like Payonel dominates the
commit log lately, but that doesn't necessarily mean anything.
:P
L88[07:46:51] <dequbed> papayonel is
L89[07:47:11]
<SoraFirestorm> good to know
L90[07:47:41] <dequbed> But again, don't
pester him, he's got enough to do.
L91[07:51:08]
<SoraFirestorm> who should I talk to for
potentially contributing then?
L92[07:51:11]
<SoraFirestorm> serious question
L93[07:52:53] <dequbed> papayo.
"pester" is more like angrily DM'ing asking when the 1.16
version is coming out :P
L94[07:53:16]
<SoraFirestorm> lol
L95[07:53:22]
<SoraFirestorm> yeah, I wasn't intending
on doing that
L96[07:53:51]
<SoraFirestorm> just more about asking
questions about dev stuff
L97[08:01:15]
<SoraFirestorm> I'm thinking this
through... the more I think about it the more I realize it's not
worth the pain honestly
L98[08:01:32] <dequbed> That is the
conclusion most have come to.
L99[08:02:09]
<SoraFirestorm> The easiest thing to do is
simply wait for OC2 to become more fully developed then come back
when that happens :P
L100[08:02:40] <dequbed> OC2 is not a
successor to OC.
L101[08:02:50]
<SoraFirestorm> I'm aware of this
L102[08:05:00]
<SoraFirestorm> at this point though, I
would sincerely prefer a realized OC2 over OC
L103[08:05:16]
<SoraFirestorm> Lua is a fine language,
and I like it a lot
L104[08:05:38]
<SoraFirestorm> but I would definitely
appreciate having more flexibility in what languages I can
use
L105[08:06:53] <dequbed> Have you
considered buying a RISC-V devboard? :P
L106[08:07:12] <dequbed> All the features
of OC2, right now, at your fingertips ;)
L107[08:07:29]
<SoraFirestorm> real life is lame though
:P
L108[08:07:34]
<SoraFirestorm> I want to computer in
Minecraft :P
L109[08:07:51]
<SoraFirestorm> real talk - yes, I have
considered it
L110[08:07:59]
<SoraFirestorm> because I'm vaguely
interested in learning RISC-V assembly
L111[08:08:10]
<SoraFirestorm> hell no at the price
points as they were when I last checked
L112[08:09:31] <dequbed> Last I checked at
least RISC-V devboards weren't more expensive than comparable ARM
devboards for chips with the same production volume
L113[08:10:25]
<SoraFirestorm> I just want a Raspberry
Pi-like thing with a RISC-V CPU
L114[08:10:33] <Izaya> the issue is the
production volumes are low >.>
L115[08:10:36]
<SoraFirestorm> that doesn't cost an arm
and a leg
L117[08:10:59] <Izaya> there's a
BeagleBone board coming out with- ^
L118[08:11:43]
<SoraFirestorm> $149 is a pretty penny
tho
L119[08:11:50] <dequbed> No, not
really
L120[08:12:18]
<SoraFirestorm> relative to a Raspberry Pi
it is
L121[08:12:26]
<SoraFirestorm> I understand they aren't
1:1 comparable
L122[08:12:27] <Izaya> that's only an
extra $60 :^)
L123[08:13:17] <dequbed> The Pi4 is in the
same ballpark even
L124[08:13:37]
<SoraFirestorm> Pi 4 is literally half the
price in the most expensive configuration
L125[08:14:06]
<SoraFirestorm> I wouldn't call "one
is 2x the price of the other" ballpark close
L126[08:14:22] <dequbed> Eh, I only know
what they cost in Euro, can't tell what's that in monopoly money
:p
L127[08:14:47]
<SoraFirestorm> Pi 4 8G is $75
pretax
L128[08:14:56]
<SoraFirestorm> BeagleV is $149
pretax
L129[08:15:52] <dequbed> Anyway, where's
that number from? I didn't know they made it public
L132[08:17:05]
<SoraFirestorm> The Seeed Studio link in
the second linked page 404s
L133[08:17:16]
<SoraFirestorm> I'm sure you could find it
in the Wayback Machine though
L134[08:17:46] <dequbed> Ah. Well, I'll
wait for retail availability before talking about price. A lot can
happen in the meantime.
L135[08:18:33]
<SoraFirestorm> Sure, GA is another
game
L136[08:18:41]
<SoraFirestorm> and maybe by that point
the gap won't be nearly so wide
L137[08:19:11]
<bad at
vijya> i want risc-v stuff lmao
L138[08:19:15]
<SoraFirestorm> oh wow
L139[08:19:25]
<SoraFirestorm> I'm looking at parts of
OC2
L140[08:19:35]
<SoraFirestorm> I didn't realize that
Sangar wrote his own RISC-V emulator
L141[08:19:44] <dequbed> That ... that *is
the point* of OC2.
L142[08:20:27] <dequbed> OC2 was a way for
Snagar to learn RISC-V and CPU emulation by writing a CPU emulator.
The mod is just to give it more real applicability and have more
fun testing.
L143[08:20:38]
<SoraFirestorm> ahhhhh
L144[08:20:46] <dequbed> The same way OC
was also written for Snagar to learn Scala. That's how that guy
*does stuff*.
L145[08:20:49]
<SoraFirestorm> I only learned of this
context... just now :P
L146[08:21:03] <dequbed> No, I told you
the last time too :P
L147[08:21:18] <dequbed> And I even think
the time *before that* too. Not sure if that was you though.
L148[08:21:18]
<SoraFirestorm> I must have missed
it
L149[08:21:23]
<SoraFirestorm> I do that a lot
¯\(ツ)/¯
L150[08:51:12]
<Forecaster> woops... had to murder 5
people because I got caught in the command center, but I managed to
keep the alarm from going off
L151[09:18:05]
<Vaur>
%tonkout
L152[09:18:05] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Vaur,
you were not able to beat Vaur's record of 7 hours, 44 minutes and
11 seconds this time. 7 hours, 35 minutes and 14 seconds were
wasted! Missed by 8 minutes and 57 seconds!
L153[09:18:36]
<Vaur>
woups that's bad
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L169[14:20:50] <Dragonkiller_55> hi
L170[14:21:06] <Dragonkiller_55> :}
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L172[14:21:36] <Vampyre> 29 seconds.
wow
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L174[14:23:08] <Dragonkiller_55> anyone
there?
L175[14:23:20]
<Forecaster> nope
L176[14:23:24] <Dragonkiller_55> ??
L177[14:23:55] <Vampyre> nobody is here,
we're all in your head
L178[14:23:57]
<Forecaster> we've all gone shopping,
leave a message after the beep
L179[14:24:02] <Dragonkiller_55> XD
L180[14:24:32] <Dragonkiller_55> how in
the world do I add ram
L181[14:24:45] <Dragonkiller_55> that has
been my ongoing issue with this stuff
L182[14:24:57]
<Forecaster> "add ram"
L183[14:25:03] <Dragonkiller_55> :|
L184[14:25:07] <Vampyre> craft 2 tier 3.5
sticks, add them to the computer?
L185[14:25:14] <Vampyre> or 4 if it's a
server
L186[14:25:27] <Dragonkiller_55> would a
server be better?
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L189[14:26:22] <Dragonkiller_55> :|
L190[14:26:43]
<Forecaster> you shouldn't need that much
ram unless you're doing something ridiculous
L191[14:27:13] <Vampyre> yes, so,
question. If your program does not run with 2 sticks of ram because
it is out of memory. Would you then think having the ability to add
4 sticks in a server is better?
L192[14:27:30] <Dragonkiller_55> well my
computer keeps going 90 ram then dies if my settings open
L193[14:27:44] <Vampyre> ...eh
L194[14:27:49] <Dragonkiller_55> so I
guess the main goal would be to make a server
L195[14:28:00] <Vampyre> you're not
talking aout OC computers?
L196[14:28:02]
<Forecaster> You're talking about your
actual computer
L197[14:28:44] <Dragonkiller_55> I am
talking about my minecraft computer
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L199[14:28:50] <Vampyre> we be confused
;-) answer is still the same... craft up a few tier 3.5 sticks
through amazon.com and insert them in your computer ;-)
L200[14:29:00] <Dragonkiller_55> still the
same thing
L201[14:29:09] <Dragonkiller_55> 90 ram I
am gonna make a server
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L203[14:29:32]
<Forecaster> Then what is "90
ram"
L204[14:29:35]
<Forecaster> ...
L205[14:29:48] <Vampyre> no idea,
wondering that myself too ;-)
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L207[14:30:45] <dequbed> 90% RAM usage
most likely
L208[14:30:58] <Vampyre> guess so
L209[14:31:08] <Vampyre> also, I found a
book edit mod kinda
L210[14:32:48]
<Forecaster> Yeah but OpenOS didn't show
ram usage in percent, so they're most likely using mineos
L211[14:33:00]
<Forecaster> Which is probably why they're
running out of ram
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L213[14:35:58] <dequbed> @Forecaster I'm
am almost entirely certain they mean their windows computer that is
going to 90%. That, or MC itself.
L214[14:37:20]
<Forecaster> I have no idea
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L217[15:07:45] <Dragonkiller_55> ok I am
back
L218[15:07:57] <Dragonkiller_55> I keep
somehow reinstalling this OS
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L221[15:11:25] <Dragonkiller_55> again I
am back I died again
L222[15:12:00]
<Forecaster> we still have no idea if
you're talking about an in-game computer or a real computer
L223[15:12:08] <Dragonkiller_55> in game
one
L224[15:12:18]
<Forecaster> are you using mineos
L225[15:12:30] <Dragonkiller_55> I just
want my ram to be above 2000 kb
L226[15:12:35] <Dragonkiller_55> yes
L227[15:12:54]
<Forecaster> then that's why you're
running out of ram
L228[15:13:05] <Dragonkiller_55>
what??
L229[15:13:40] <dequbed> *clears throat*
THEN THAT'S WHY YOU'RE RUNNING OUT OF RAM
L230[15:13:50] <Dragonkiller_55> I HEARD
YOU
L231[15:14:02] <Dragonkiller_55> TT
L232[15:14:13]
<real
catmaid> aa
L233[15:14:33]
<Teris> To
repeat: MineOS is why you are running out of RAM
L234[15:14:44] <Dragonkiller_55> well then
what else is there
L235[15:14:55]
<Forecaster> OpenOS
L236[15:15:02] <Dragonkiller_55> what is
that
L237[15:15:15]
<Forecaster> ...the official OC operating
system
L238[15:15:32] <Dragonkiller_55> how do I
install it
L239[15:15:37] <Dragonkiller_55> or use
it
L240[15:15:44]
<Forecaster> with the openos floppy
disk
L242[15:17:14] <Dragonkiller_55> so follow
these instructions?
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L244[15:22:23] <Vampyre> oh... before I
get beaten to the puch, did nobody ask yet 1.17 when? ;-)
L245[15:22:45] <Amanda> I think we're up
to 2045 now
L246[15:23:00] <Vampyre> heh, sounds
perfect
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L248[15:44:37] <Inari> Nep
L249[15:44:55] *
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L253[15:57:38] <Dima> привет
L254[15:58:02]
<ThePiGuy24> английский
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L260[16:04:58] <Dima> привет
L261[16:05:13]
<Forecaster> This is an English
channel
L262[16:05:23] <Inari> npnbet to you
too
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L265[16:53:17]
<Peanut>
with microcontrollers, will they just run the program on the EEPROM
on startup?
L266[16:55:53]
<Forecaster> any computer tries to execute
the eeprom on startup
L267[16:57:40]
<Forecaster> the only things that are
special about microcontrollers are 1. self-contained 2. no external
components and 3. very limited contents and no harddrive
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<Vaur>
%tonkout
L270[17:07:02] <MichiBot> Goshhawk! Vaur!
You beat your own previous record of 7 hours, 44 minutes and 11
seconds (By 4 minutes and 46 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L271[17:07:03] <MichiBot> Vaur has tonked
out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.007 tonk points! plus 0.012
bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 1.64485255,
Position #1
L272[17:07:14]
<Forecaster> dammit
L273[17:19:03]
<Ocawesome101> @Kristopher38 i have a
theory as to why filesystem read calls are limited to 2KB but write
calls are unlimited
L274[17:20:44]
<Ocawesome101> my guess is it's due to the
fact that you could read a 128MB string and overflow the Lua
instance's maximum memory, but you are limited in the amount of
data you can put in a single write call by the amount of memory the
Lua instance has. that, combined with the filesystem space
limitations, i think strikes a fair balance
L275[17:35:40]
<Kristopher38> reasonable theory
L276[17:36:00]
<Kristopher38> that also applies to
reading and writing sockets btw
L277[17:36:16]
<Kristopher38> now i wonder when's the
check for memory overflow done
L278[17:36:58]
<bad at
vijya> holy shit
L279[17:37:08]
<bad at
vijya> stalker 2 looks sick
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L287[18:14:01] <Dragonkiller_55> hi
guys
L288[18:14:05] <Dragonkiller_55> so I
figured it out
L289[18:14:19] <Dragonkiller_55> I finally
got my computer in the game to have more ram
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L292[18:14:43] <Amanda> k
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<Vaur>
%tonk
L298[18:34:39] <MichiBot> Potzblitz!
Vaur! You beat your own previous record of <0 (By 1 hour, 27
minutes and 36 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L299[18:34:40] <MichiBot> Vaur's new
record is 1 hour, 27 minutes and 36 seconds! No points gained for
stealing from yourself. (Lost out on 0.00146)
L300[18:35:54] <Inari> %fling Amanda
L301[18:35:54] <MichiBot> Inari flings
black hole bomb in a random direction. It hits the ground near
Amanda
L302[18:35:55] *
MichiBot Black hole bomb angered a unicorn and was
pierced.
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L306[18:48:35]
<Michiyo>
Oh... lol
L307[18:48:47]
<Michiyo>
So... that's where my ZNC instance is hosted
L309[19:09:01]
<BrisingrAerowing> Well, at least you
found it.
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L315[19:53:11]
<Shuudoushi> I'm going to get in trouble
with Pi hardware at this rate...
L316[19:53:39]
<Shuudoushi> it's all so cheap, so it's
easy to loose track of spending
L317[19:54:26]
<Ariri> 200
USD later
L318[19:54:36]
<Shuudoushi> pretty much lol
L319[19:55:07]
<Shuudoushi> I'm already looking into
cluster boards...
L320[19:56:57]
<Shuudoushi> I still can't quite figure
out why this stupid ass program for this fan controller refuses to
do as I say.
L321[19:57:12] <Inari> It's a shuu!
L322[20:01:54]
<Forecaster> %sip
L323[20:01:54] <MichiBot> You drink a
fluffy purple potion (New!). Forecaster's nose vanish until they
say the phrase "Nice Harmony".
L324[20:02:07]
<Forecaster> Nice harmony?
L325[20:03:18] <Corded> *
<Shuudoushi> waves at Inari
L326[20:03:27]
<Shuudoushi> yes, i live
L327[20:03:40] <Inari> Neat, neat
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L329[20:04:31] <Inari> Why is s unday
evening already
L330[20:04:34] <Inari> I don't feel ike
monday
L331[20:04:49]
<Shuudoushi> mein deutsch ist auch noch
schlecht, lol
L332[20:05:12]
<Shuudoushi> wait... it's sunday...
L333[20:05:20]
<Shuudoushi> fml...
L334[20:06:50] <Inari> Haha
L335[20:07:02] <Inari> What did you think
it was
L336[20:07:13]
<Shuudoushi> saturday...
L338[20:07:32]
<Shuudoushi> t.t
L339[20:07:39] <Inari> At least I can work
from home
L340[20:07:43] <Inari> no endless trian
trips
L341[20:07:44] <Inari> \o'/
L342[20:08:09]
<Shuudoushi> lucky brat...
L343[20:08:13] <Inari> :p
L344[20:08:20] <Inari> One positive thing
from covid
L345[20:10:31]
<Shuudoushi> the way cmd ling args and if
statements in C works is slightly pissing me off...
L347[20:11:18] <Inari> C is a terrible
language anyway
L348[20:11:19] <Vampyre> how so?
L349[20:11:36]
<Shuudoushi> I keep getting segmentation
faults...
L350[20:11:43] <Inari> hah
L351[20:11:56]
<Shuudoushi> about to say fuck it and go
back to python
L352[20:12:25] <Inari> shuttles in e:D are
pretty neat
L354[20:13:21] <Vampyre> there is the opt
lib if you really need it, but in general, if you want to do c,
your first job is to find a good way to debug your programs
;-)
L355[20:13:45] <Vampyre> run it in
gdb
L356[20:13:49] <Vampyre> compile it with
-g
L357[20:13:58] <Vampyre> that will tell
you the line of the segfuault
L358[20:14:04] <Inari> Your first job is
to learn the manual by heart
L359[20:14:07] <Inari> so you don't invoke
UD
L360[20:14:10] <Inari> *UB
L361[20:14:26] <Vampyre> heh, that...
would indeed be a good first step
L362[20:14:33]
<Shuudoushi> I'm building this out of a
debug/demo program because I can't make device drivers worth a
fuck...
L363[20:14:44] <Vampyre> but I will
absolutely admit even I don't know the full spec by heart ;-)
L364[20:15:00] <Inari> Think C makes it
quite easy to get UB if you aren't careful
L365[20:15:22] <Inari> I gotat find
ggraphics settings that give me better fps in stations
L366[20:17:37]
<Shuudoushi> Vampyre I'm pretty I'm not
helping by just throwing code at it till it either doesn't build
anymore, or until it does something new
https://tinyurl.com/ydwy6wsc
L367[20:18:16] <Vampyre> ok
L368[20:18:24] <Vampyre> error in line
21
L369[20:18:41] <Vampyre> at that point you
do not know if argv[2] exists
L370[20:18:43]
<Shuudoushi> aware of it
L371[20:18:47] <Vampyre> so there is your
segfault
L372[20:18:59] <Inari> also
L373[20:19:12] <Inari> line 37, if argc is
2, shouldn't argv only be 0 and 1, not 2?
L374[20:19:28] <Inari> Wait why are you
comparing argc to a string after that
L375[20:19:30]
<Shuudoushi> aware of it being spaghetti
code*
L376[20:19:32] <Inari> I'm confused
L377[20:19:36] <Vampyre> line 37 is
completely wrong
L378[20:19:48] <Vampyre> you need strcmp
there, you can't compare pointers with strings
L379[20:20:13] <Vampyre> well, you can't
excpect == to compare your string pointers I mean
L380[20:20:49]
<Shuudoushi> see, this is why I like Lua
and py, neither give a fuck lmao
L381[20:21:18] <Vampyre> C needs you to do
the work, it does not do it for you
L382[20:21:28] <Vampyre> makes it very
versitile and fast though
L383[20:22:25]
<Shuudoushi> thus part of the reason I'm
trying to learn at least a little of it
L384[20:29:11] <Inari> Ugh
L385[20:29:17] <Inari> I need to watch a
tutorial on these E:D missions
L386[20:29:23] <Inari> I don't really get
what upsets npcs
L387[20:29:23] <Inari> :P
L388[20:29:43]
<Shuudoushi> murdering them tends to do
that pretty well
L389[20:29:55] <Inari> I just scanned one,
not even with the illegal mode
L390[20:30:53]
<Shuudoushi> ich brauche essen, brb
L391[20:31:50] <Inari> Oooh
L392[20:31:52] <Inari> slime rancher
2
L393[20:31:55] <Inari> interesting
L395[20:36:51]
<Forecaster> If you scan someone that has
a bounty and you're not being subtle they tend to not like
that
L396[20:37:52] <Inari> Ah, guess that was
it
L397[20:37:53] <Inari> :P
L398[20:37:57]
<Forecaster> If they don't see you do it
nothing happens
L399[20:43:48]
<Forecaster> I also found that out the
hard way, scanned someone while they were facing me, they had a
bounty and instantly turned hostile, and set off the alarm
L400[20:44:11] <Inari> If you know that
kinda stuff though, stealth seems quite easyt
L401[20:44:21] <Inari> so I don't see
myself really using stuff like venting atmosphere
L402[20:44:35]
<Forecaster> Before then I didn't know
they would do that as I'd only scanned people while they weren't
looking at me
L403[20:45:06]
<Forecaster> It becomes a bit easier
sure
L404[20:45:31] <Inari> I think part of it
is that I don't want to experiment though
L405[20:45:35]
<Forecaster> You still gotta avoid guards
if you have illegally obtained credentials
L406[20:45:44] <Inari> Why vent atmosphere
and maybe that'll trigger the alarm, how would I know after
all
L407[20:46:00] <Inari> And if I trigger
the alarm, the missions fails and all the guards seem to instantly
know where I am 24/7, so I'm dead
L408[20:46:41] <Inari> so seems easier to
not experiment and take the safe way
L409[20:46:47]
<Forecaster> The only reason to vent the
atmosphere would be to put out fires or to make it so you can fire
weapons without people hearing it
L410[20:47:03] <Inari> Thats true I guess,
didn't think of the sound part
L411[20:47:26]
<Forecaster> The guards only know where
you are if someone reports your position
L412[20:47:30] <Inari> Also failed a
missions because I didn't know interacting with the mision
objective always triggers the alarm apparenlty :P
L413[20:47:43]
<Forecaster> You can evade them and they
will patrol and search for you
L414[20:47:46]
<Shuudoushi> I can't do games like that...
I just turn into a murderous cunt and start killing everything that
moves...
L415[20:48:02]
<Forecaster> That doesn't surprise
me
L416[20:48:34] <Inari> Hmm maybe, just
some guy saw me through a window, I ran alongside the building then
(out of their sight) and hid in like a section behind some
boxes
L417[20:48:38]
<Shuudoushi> "oh, oh, you know right
where I am huh!? then you're all gonna fuckin' die!"
L418[20:48:40] <Inari> but 4 guards that
weren't near there found me
L419[20:48:52] <Inari> @Shuudoushi Except
it's me that dies!
L420[20:49:01]
<Forecaster> Inari yeah I discovered that
too
L421[20:49:02]
<Shuudoushi> lol, oof
L422[20:49:12]
<Shuudoushi> Inari get bigger gun
L423[20:49:57]
<Forecaster> If the goal is to steal the
power regulator without triggering the alarm you might have to
disable the settlement alarms first
L424[20:50:02]
<Shuudoushi> nothin' quite tells guards to
go fuck themselves like a fucking nuke
L425[20:50:46]
<Forecaster> The panel for that is in the
command center
L426[20:52:01] <Inari> The goal was to
sabotage some production thing
L427[20:52:07] <Inari> So I snuck in
there
L428[20:52:13] <Inari> Started sabotaging
it, no on enearby
L429[20:52:16] <Inari> Mission
failed
L430[20:52:18] <Inari> Noice
L431[20:52:45]
<Forecaster> Oh yeah, right those
L432[20:53:10]
<Forecaster> Yeah, gotta turn off the
alarm
L433[20:53:21] <Inari> Nothing told me to
do so t;t
L434[20:53:55]
<Forecaster> I know
L435[20:54:37]
<Forecaster> I like that though
L436[20:59:17] <Inari> You like
what?
L437[21:01:56]
<Forecaster> Having to discover that you
need to disable the settlement alarms and how to do that rather
than the game explicitly telling you how and where to do that as
part of the mission
L438[21:02:43] <Inari> Would be okay if
there was anything you could do other than "guess I'll
die", or if there was some hint to that end
L439[21:03:57]
<Forecaster> I mean, I didn't die after
the alarm went off, I escaped from the settlement
L440[21:04:17] <Inari> Maybe I should've
ran instead of fighting
L441[21:04:28] <Inari> But I also came by
hsuttle, so I guess that made things harder :P
L442[21:04:44]
<Forecaster> Getting up on the roofs help,
the npcs are slow to get there generally
L443[21:05:01] <Inari> I see
L444[21:05:10]
<Forecaster> And lose track of you quickly
if they don't see you
L445[21:05:55]
<Forecaster> Fighting is pointless unless
it helps you achieve a goal
L446[21:22:40] <Vampyre> that could be a
nice quite from Sun Tzu ;-)
L447[21:22:45] <Vampyre> quote*
L449[21:36:56] <Vampyre> welcome to the
wonderful world of pointers ;-)
L450[21:37:38] <Vampyre> you'll completely
fall in love with them when you get to structs :-p
L451[21:38:53]
<Shuudoushi> Vampyre or I'll yeet this
motherfucker out a window
L452[21:39:03] <Vampyre> lol, nooo
L453[21:39:09] <Vampyre> persist! you'll
get there
L454[21:39:18] <Vampyre> if not, post your
code ;-)
L455[21:39:33]
<Shuudoushi> I'm going to go find my
blowtorch rq -_-
L456[21:40:02]
<bad at
vijya> segfaults aren't terrible to diagnose, just write your
own memory manager ez
L457[21:40:25] <Vampyre> no need, there
are malloc libraries
L458[21:40:41] <Vampyre> even gcc itself
has some buildin support nowadays
L460[21:43:33]
<bad at
vijya> what the fuck did you do
L461[21:43:43]
<Shuudoushi> yes
L462[21:43:50] <Vampyre> try gcc main.c
?
L463[21:43:56] <Vampyre> main is an
executable
L464[21:44:03] <Vampyre> not a c source
file
L465[21:44:33] <Vampyre> also, -o
L466[21:44:49] <Vampyre> else the output
will be called a.out
L468[21:45:08] <Vampyre> you are not in
the examples directory
L469[21:45:25] <Vampyre> #include
"" checks the include path from pwd
L470[21:45:37] <Vampyre> #include <>
checks the include path
L471[21:45:48] <Vampyre> c is really not
that hard you know ;-)
L473[21:47:43] <Amanda> %claw Inari
L474[21:47:43] <MichiBot> Amanda is
trying to claw Inari! They have 1 minute if they want to attempt
to %defend against it!
L475[21:47:47] <Vampyre> yah, so include
the dir which has the DEV_include.h in your include path (gcc
-I/some/path main.c -o main)
L476[21:47:53] <Vampyre> oh and please add
-g
L478[21:48:17] <Vampyre> that includes
debug info in your executable, so gdb can show you line numbers
where segfaults happen
L479[21:48:44] <Vampyre> the makefile has
-I../lib/config
L480[21:48:55] <Vampyre> that's where the
dev_config.h file is probably
L482[21:50:14] <Vampyre> yup, there is
DEV_config.h
L483[21:51:12]
<Shuudoushi> brain be cooked
L484[21:52:09]
<bad at
vijya> time to write my own editor B)
L485[21:52:25] <Inari> Amanda: but why
D:
L486[21:52:34] <Inari> %parry
L487[21:52:34] <MichiBot> Inari failed to
parry Amanda. With a 5 vs 12 Inari takes the full 6 damage.
L488[21:56:11]
<Shuudoushi> lulz, hard paths just caused
a buffer overflow in my term XD
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L492[22:38:54]
<Vaur>
%tonkout
L493[22:38:54] <MichiBot> Consarn it!
Vaur! You beat your own previous record of 1 hour, 27 minutes and
36 seconds (By 2 hours, 36 minutes and 37 seconds)! I hope you're
happy!
L494[22:38:55] <MichiBot> Vaur has tonked
out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.004 tonk points! plus 0.006
bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 1.65485255,
Position #1
L495[22:44:07] <Amanda> %choose halucinate
more of the day away or waves and pretty pictures
L496[22:44:07] <MichiBot> Amanda: I saw
that "halucinate more of the day away" is the best choice
in a vision
L497[22:45:02] <Amanda> Hrm. Nah, My
body's going to be angry if I spend any more time
halucinating
L498[22:45:21] <Amanda> %choose and
greece; waves or irradiate
L499[22:45:21] <MichiBot> Amanda: waves
and greece
L500[23:10:57]
<bad at
vijya> Izaya: STALKER 2 is getting a physical edition
L501[23:19:51] ***
finch is now known as Ariri
L502[23:22:30] <Ariri> %tell Inari If you
didn't already know, you can delete your security profile before a
guard scan complete using the grenade wheel or a custom bind in On
Foot Controls | Also, plasma weapons stronk when upgraded, and the
Manticore Tormentor is a fantastic sidearm for stealth
L503[23:22:30] <MichiBot> Ariri: Inari
will be notified of this message when next seen.
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L505[23:33:28] <tnorment> hi
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