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L1[00:06:42] <SoraFi​restorm> >SoraFi​restorm: OpenOS `/lib/package.lua` doesn't fully implem…
L2[00:06:42] <SoraFi​restorm> Got some help from the Fennel guys to work out the kinks in my implementation of this.
L3[00:13:50] <Elfi> Ohhhhh
L4[00:14:12] <Elfi> Moths in floating cities
L5[00:15:06] <Izaya> the stars shall be our lämps
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L7[00:31:03] <bad at​ vijya> Ariri: i have particular needs, though
L8[00:31:19] <bad at​ vijya> and a particular look i'm going for
L9[00:33:04] <Izaya> oh for fuck sake
L10[00:33:09] <Izaya> (fuck's?)
L11[00:33:19] <Izaya> OBS depends on pipewire now
L12[00:33:33] <Izaya> guess I can say goodbye to working sound and video for the next decade again
L13[00:40:47] <Ariri> bad at vijya: understandable
L14[00:49:15] <Sagh​etti> can't get hardware accelerated video decoding working :(
L15[00:49:28] <Sagh​etti> thanks manjaro
L16[00:50:57] <Ocawes​ome101> which browser
L17[00:50:58] <Ocawes​ome101> what GPU
L18[00:51:19] <Ocawes​ome101> do you have libva
L19[00:51:27] <Ocawes​ome101> are you using wayland or x11
L20[00:51:30] <Ocawes​ome101> @Saghetti
L21[00:51:50] <Sagh​etti> firefox (and also electron w/ discord)
L22[00:51:53] <Sagh​etti> gtx 1070
L23[00:51:55] <Sagh​etti> not sure
L24[00:52:03] <Sagh​etti> probably x11
L25[00:52:25] <Ocawes​ome101> install `libva` and enable hardware video decoding in firefox in `about:config`
L26[00:52:40] <Ocawes​ome101> also make sure you aren't using nouveau
L27[00:52:50] <Ocawes​ome101> (or, however tf you spell that)
L28[00:52:54] <Sagh​etti> thanks, will try
L29[00:59:49] <Kristo​pher38> Can you please stop being obnoxiously knowledgeable for your age?
L30[01:00:13] <bad at​ vijya> Izaya: but New Thing Good™️
L31[01:00:44] <bad at​ vijya> New Thing Better because New Means More Stable Than Old Thing™️
L32[01:00:53] <Kristo​pher38> Seriously though, I imagine using Linux from early age makes lot of things easier
L33[01:01:20] <Izaya> bad_at_vijya: pulse only just became usable like last year
L34[01:01:26] <Izaya> I'm not breaking my setup AGAIN
L35[01:02:16] <bad at​ vijya> heh
L36[01:02:36] <bad at​ vijya> pulse was usually stable for me
L37[01:02:45] <bad at​ vijya> emu10k moment
L38[01:03:19] <ben_mkiv> pulse was never an option
L39[01:05:01] <bad at​ vijya> honestly was surprised my soundblaster worked so well besides when i forgot to install the fucking deps
L40[01:06:00] <ben_mkiv> remember the days where almost every component required an interrupt channel? :>
L41[01:06:13] <ben_mkiv> and sound cards had jumpers to configure them xD
L42[01:06:31] <bad at​ vijya> you mean current year
L43[01:06:33] <ben_mkiv> damn, life got so much easier
L44[01:06:41] <bad at​ vijya> i still deal with these machines
L45[01:06:47] <bad at​ vijya> plug and pray moment
L46[01:06:48] <Vampyre> I remember the days where you had jumpers on serial and ide cards ro configure them ;-)
L47[01:06:50] <ben_mkiv> well now its auto configured
L48[01:07:04] <ben_mkiv> and back then you needed a sound card to connect a cdrom drive xD
L49[01:07:12] <bad at​ vijya> automatic IRQ conflicts B)
L50[01:07:21] <Christoph​er_504225> does anyone know how opencomputers drones work
L51[01:07:43] <Vampyre> here? no... this is #OC, why would we know that here?
L52[01:07:47] <bad at​ vijya> i wanna get another fuckin
L53[01:07:50] <bad at​ vijya> K6 machine
L54[01:08:12] <bad at​ vijya> tho i'd l o v e and old sparc machine
L55[01:20:14] <Ocawes​ome101> @Kristopher38 😏
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L57[01:30:34] <Ecm​aXp> I don't know much about Lua and only Python, so it's hard to help even if you DM me. If possible, please ask for help with scripts here rather than DM. :neko_cry:
L58[01:36:35] <Christoph​er_504225> is this open computers discord
L59[01:36:42] <Ecm​aXp> @Christopher_504225 Rather than looking for someone who knows about drones well, I think there will be many more people who can help if the problem clearly defines which problem you want to solve with the drone.
L60[01:36:46] <Izaya> no this is the OpenComputers IRC channel
L61[01:37:14] <Ecm​aXp> Ehhh... but then how to getting helps for OC robots?
L62[01:37:15] <Ecm​aXp> T_T
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L64[01:38:55] <Christoph​er_504225> i think i got robots figured out its just a pain typing things teling them what to do
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L67[02:08:27] <ben_mkiv> my 4am video today... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0c7EN2Dolis xD
L68[02:08:28] <MichiBot> The Lian Li Aquarium PC Case from 2003! | length: 26m 37s | Likes: 24,745 Dislikes: 237 Views: 359,850 | by LGR | Published On 28/5/2021
L69[02:08:38] <Sagh​etti> cool
L70[02:42:38] <Forec​aster> %tonk
L71[02:42:39] <MichiBot> Wild! Forec​aster! You beat Va​ur's previous record of 1 hour, 22 minutes and 39 seconds (By 4 hours, 32 minutes and 53 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L72[02:42:40] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 5 hours, 55 minutes and 33 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.0091 (0.00455 x 2) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #3. Need 0.1000403 more points to pass Compan​ionCube!
L73[03:42:27] <Amanda> %choose be responsible or internet-obtained hallucinations are fine too
L74[03:42:28] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: I tried reading my tea leaves this morning. There was something about death and doom. Anyway, go with "internet-obtained hallucinations are fine too"
L75[04:05:03] <Amanda> Elfi~ why'd you leave a bag of tireds out on our pillow? Now I've gotta zzzmew
L76[04:05:25] * Amanda barely manages to tuck in around elfi, passes out
L77[04:07:06] <bad at​ vijya> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/272221021417766913/827366481821302784/agnus_dead.webm
L78[05:12:42] <Forec​aster> @Christopher_504225 https://testosterone.org/blocklyoc
L79[05:13:19] <Forec​aster> ...dammit autocorrect
L80[05:13:30] <Forec​aster> @Christopher_504225 https://towerofawesome.org/blocklyoc [Edited]
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L82[06:19:33] <bad at​ vijya> Ariri: https://tinyurl.com/y339gu8n
L83[06:19:43] <bad at​ vijya> @Ariri also discord ping lmao, you might enjoy this
L84[06:20:16] <Ar​iri> wth
L85[06:20:25] <Ar​iri> where are you
L86[06:20:56] <bad at​ vijya> outside the map
L87[06:21:05] <bad at​ vijya> https://tinyurl.com/y4t8yrnx
L88[06:21:09] <Ar​iri> ye but like h o w
L89[06:21:12] <bad at​ vijya> hook
L90[06:21:15] <bad at​ vijya> it goes brr
L91[06:21:47] <Ar​iri> does the out of bounds warning only work at a certain range?
L92[06:22:08] <bad at​ vijya> i dunno
L93[06:22:14] <bad at​ vijya> it worked when i hopped to a nearby rock
L94[06:22:25] <Ar​iri> wack
L95[06:22:37] <Ar​iri> why do you get to have all the fun
L96[06:22:51] <bad at​ vijya> i didn't
L97[06:22:54] <Ar​iri> i try to break stuff and almost nothing exciting ever happen
L98[06:23:01] <bad at​ vijya> i had to go through sweaty G100 car mains
L99[06:23:07] <Ar​iri> fair
L100[06:24:11] <Ar​iri> might be cool if it was like cod and you could take off the Anti Titan weapon so you can put on another primary
L101[06:24:24] <Ar​iri> i'd go kraber and flatline or devotion if I’m not meming
L102[06:25:45] <Ar​iri> imagine grapple and stim combo
L103[06:32:52] <bad at​ vijya> pls no
L104[06:32:56] <bad at​ vijya> i don't want CAR+Spitfire
L105[06:38:53] <Ar​iri> oh gosh
L106[06:39:00] <Ar​iri> you're right
L107[06:39:48] <Ar​iri> lol just noticed someone is sim bottoming
L108[06:39:52] <Ar​iri> aim botting*
L109[06:44:16] <Mic​hiyo> sim boittoming locked in.
L110[06:44:21] <Mic​hiyo> sim bottoming locked in. [Edited]
L111[06:45:21] <Mic​hiyo> 10GB network cards and DAC should be here Saturday....
L112[06:47:19] <bad at​ vijya> >Ar​iri: lol just noticed someone is sim bottoming
L113[06:47:20] <bad at​ vijya> p much
L114[06:48:23] <Ar​iri> Michiyo: yum, 10jigabits, v nice
L115[06:51:37] <bad at​ vijya> @Ariri i got six titan kills with one life as legion
L116[06:51:39] <bad at​ vijya> I
L117[06:51:39] <bad at​ vijya> AM
L118[06:51:40] <bad at​ vijya> LEGION
L119[06:54:49] <Ar​iri> legion and monarch shred in good hands
L120[06:54:54] <Ar​iri> respect
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L122[07:27:51] <Mic​hiyo> Yeah, running iSCSI for my Proxmox server over 1GB is... annoyingly slow lol
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L124[07:31:53] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L125[08:21:36] <Lizzy> @Michiyo 10 Gigglybites per selection!
L126[08:21:48] <Mic​hiyo> lol
L127[08:24:01] <Lizzy> hmm, I wonder if it'd be more efficient to go from solar/battery banks to a PC via some form of DC-DC PSU, rather than go from DC to AC through an inverter then back to DC through conventional power supplies
L128[08:24:25] <Izaya> yup
L129[08:24:52] <Izaya> depending on cabling, anyway
L130[08:25:47] <Lizzy> yeah, though i assume that once you go big enough on the cables, not having to convert to AC to just go back to DC is probably a lot more efficient
L131[08:26:41] <Lizzy> kinda maybe wanna DIY my own UPS/off-grid power system for my home server and maybe also my computer (the latter uses more energy though)
L132[08:27:05] <Lizzy> though the thing is that our power here is relatively stable
L133[08:27:30] <Izaya> getting more solar panels and a big battery next week
L134[08:27:36] <Izaya> exciting
L135[08:28:05] <Lizzy> fluctuates between 230V and 245V thoughout the day, usually being a bit more jittery during the day as more things are on
L136[08:29:00] <Lizzy> I kinda wanna live off-grid, though it just seems really expensive to start off with and i don't have the money to really jump start it
L137[08:29:15] <Lizzy> nor do i live in an area that it'd make sense to try and live off-grid
L138[08:30:36] <Izaya> the idea of moving to a big block of desert in bumfuck nowhere, putting up big fences, and living off grid is appealing
L139[08:30:53] <Izaya> finally, somewhere where people will leave me alone
L140[08:32:20] <Mic​hiyo> Izaya Hi! We've been trying to reach you about your cars extended warranty.
L141[08:32:46] <Mic​hiyo> IDK, you guys might not deal wit that as much as we do.. lol
L142[08:32:56] <Lizzy> i'm just fascinated by all the off-grid stuff, other than a few weeks in summer, solar isn't the most viable thing here
L143[08:33:04] <Lizzy> wind power might be more stable than that lol
L144[08:34:29] <Klea​dron> You can now put up propaganda without people on the sidewalk staring at your house
L145[08:40:09] <bad at​ vijya> Izaya: but what about a low power nuclear reactor
L146[08:40:26] <Izaya> overrated
L147[08:40:33] <Izaya> I got a fusion reactor right here
L148[08:46:11] <ThePi​Guy24> how about diesel generator
L149[08:46:52] <Izaya> too much work
L150[08:50:03] <Forec​aster> %tonkout
L151[08:50:05] <MichiBot> Jiminy Cricket! Forec​aster! You beat your own previous record of 5 hours, 55 minutes and 33 seconds (By 11 minutes and 51 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L152[08:50:06] <MichiBot> Forec​aster has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.006 tonk points! plus 0.01 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 1.1825007, Position #3 Need 0.0840403 more points to pass Compan​ionCube!
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L154[08:57:19] <bad at​ vijya> homestead is objectively the worst map in titanfall 2
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L156[09:28:00] <Sagh​etti> i just spent the past 2 hours trying to vertically center an icon using css
L157[09:28:08] <Sagh​etti> i'm so fucking mad right now
L158[09:28:18] <ThePi​Guy24> i feel your pain
L159[09:28:22] <Sagh​etti> the solution was to jank it all together using css tables and !important literally everything
L160[09:28:31] <Sagh​etti> the solution was to jank it all together using tables defined in css and !important literally everything [Edited]
L161[09:28:37] <Sagh​etti> but finally https://tinyurl.com/y4s8w3f2
L162[09:28:45] <Sagh​etti> my shitty font awesome checkmark is centered
L163[09:29:18] <Sagh​etti> it doesn't even look great
L164[09:29:23] <Sagh​etti> but i do not care at this point
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L166[09:30:10] <Izaya> Saghetti: I think you can do it cleanly with flexbox
L167[09:30:11] <ThePi​Guy24> i cant remember what hackjobbery i had to do last time i needed to do something like this
L168[09:30:14] <Izaya> but don't ask me how
L169[09:30:31] <Sagh​etti> woo 5 level deep flexboxes :hollow:
L170[09:30:41] <Izaya> flexboxboxboxboxbox
L171[09:31:00] <Sagh​etti> this entire thing is already held together using flexboxes and hope
L172[09:31:02] <ThePi​Guy24> flexboxes would be nice if they were actually intuitive
L173[09:31:12] <Sagh​etti> https://the-echoplex.net/flexyboxes/
L174[09:31:24] <Sagh​etti> i always use this
L175[09:31:52] <ThePi​Guy24> i just endure the pain of doing it manually
L176[09:32:07] <Sagh​etti> damn
L177[09:42:58] <Klea​dron> "i just spent the past 2 hours trying to vertically center an icon using css"
L178[09:42:58] <Klea​dron> @Saghetti <center> :troll:
L179[09:43:16] <Sagh​etti> :rc_trollSad:
L180[09:43:36] <Klea​dron> sledgehammer solution best solution
L181[09:51:21] <ThePi​Guy24> smh just use absolute positioning ;p
L182[09:52:10] <ThePi​Guy24> also nice my javascript diesel engine simulator is now functional ans nearly complete
L183[09:52:16] <ThePi​Guy24> *and
L184[10:02:07] <nigh​tmare> how to launch program by turning computer on?
L185[10:02:16] <Izaya> %shrc
L186[10:02:21] <Izaya> %autorun
L187[10:02:21] <MichiBot> In OpenOS, in the file `/home/.shrc` put a single shell command on each line
L188[10:02:37] <nigh​tmare> oh, thanks.
L189[10:04:29] <nigh​tmare> why i can see .shrc with list but i cant with ls?
L190[10:04:54] <Izaya> files with a . as the first character are conventionally hidden files
L191[10:05:00] <Sagh​etti> https://tinyurl.com/y2urexwj
L192[10:05:04] <Sagh​etti> finally
L193[10:05:11] <Sagh​etti> a mediocre boostrap ui
L194[10:05:23] <nigh​tmare> >Iz​aya: files with a . as the first character are …
L195[10:05:23] <nigh​tmare> oh, thx
L196[10:05:39] <ThePi​Guy24> `ls -a` should list hidden files
L197[10:05:50] <nigh​tmare> thx
L198[10:06:26] <Sagh​etti> haven't even said what verbalist is yet lol
L199[10:06:35] <Sagh​etti> basically
L200[10:07:04] <Sagh​etti> it's a web app for pronounciation training (kind of)
L201[10:07:42] <Sagh​etti> the goal is to read out sentences on the screen
L202[10:07:57] <Sagh​etti> clear enough that voice dictation can transcribe them
L203[10:08:08] <Izaya> that's going to be hell with accents
L204[10:08:18] <Sagh​etti> oh well
L205[10:08:21] <Sagh​etti> this is mainly for myslef
L206[10:08:23] <Izaya> fair
L207[10:08:25] <Sagh​etti> myself*
L208[10:08:29] <ThePi​Guy24> i need to add turbocharger/supercharger simulation to mu engine simulation as this engine isng getting enough fues/air at high speed ;p
L209[10:08:38] <Sagh​etti> i felt like i got worse at speaking and conversations in general with the onset of covid
L210[10:08:48] <Izaya> I remember trying to use the voice stuff on windows 7 and it couldn't cope with my accent
L211[10:09:08] <Izaya> probably helps that australian accents usually entail "drop every second sound"
L212[10:13:16] <Va​ur> Goats https://tinyurl.com/y4zfbeeg
L213[10:14:28] <Izaya> mo'creatures must've been simplified recently
L214[10:14:32] <ThePi​Guy24> ignore the background noise and terrible choice of OS, am at college https://tinyurl.com/y6antoxx
L215[10:15:24] <nigh​tmare> some reactor controller?
L216[10:15:54] <ThePi​Guy24> diesel engine simulator written in javascript
L217[10:16:26] <nigh​tmare> oh, thats cool.
L218[10:19:47] <ThePi​Guy24> the reason why speedup and slowdown is so slow is because the flywheel is a literal metric tonne
L219[10:20:09] <ThePi​Guy24> and the engine isnt that torquey
L220[10:21:05] <Izaya> make it 100 metric tons
L221[10:21:13] <Izaya> then simulate braking it with an electric motor
L222[10:22:01] <ThePi​Guy24> wait nvm was only 100kg
L223[10:22:18] <ThePi​Guy24> wait no nvm nvm
L224[10:24:12] <ThePi​Guy24> with a 100 tonne flywheel, it takes about 50 seconds to get from 0 to 60 rpm (with starter being disengaged at 10)
L225[10:24:54] <Izaya> https://spaceflighthistory.blogspot.com/2020/11/electromagnetic-launching-as-major.html
L226[10:24:59] <Izaya> you need to get it up to 1200RPM
L227[10:25:49] <ThePi​Guy24> need forced induction
L228[10:26:03] <Izaya> > Clarke calculated that a 50-metric-ton (55-ton) flywheel 4.4 meters (14.4 feet) in diameter spinning at 1200 rotations per minute could, if coupled to a properly designed overload-tolerant generator, provide an average power over two seconds of about one million kilowatts.
L229[10:31:19] <ThePi​Guy24> ok forced induction does not seem to be needed atm as the fuel physically cannot burn fast enough
L230[10:31:51] <ThePi​Guy24> so is just exhausting half the intaken fuel at 450 rpm
L231[10:33:27] <ThePi​Guy24> solution: make the fuel faster burning :p
L232[10:33:46] <ThePi​Guy24> the laws of physics here are mine
L233[10:33:55] <Izaya> sounds like you need a petrol engine
L234[10:33:57] <Izaya> B)
L235[10:35:09] <ThePi​Guy24> no
L236[10:35:35] <Izaya> alternatively
L237[10:35:46] <Izaya> have you considered gearing?
L238[10:36:41] <ThePi​Guy24> that is not the point of this simulator
L239[10:37:16] <ThePi​Guy24> i have added the option to make the fuel spicier
L240[10:37:39] <Izaya> can you run it on RP-1?
L241[10:38:13] <ThePi​Guy24> currently it is running on something probably akin to gunpowder
L242[10:38:55] <ThePi​Guy24> now we can turbo it
L243[10:41:49] <ThePi​Guy24> ok something is no accouting for the delta time
L244[10:41:54] <ThePi​Guy24> *nit
L245[10:42:00] <ThePi​Guy24> *not
L246[10:47:50] <nigh​tmare> why this dosen't works? https://tinyurl.com/yyxxm58o
L247[10:48:06] <nigh​tmare> i am just testing it
L248[10:48:27] <Izaya> shell commands
L249[10:48:30] <Izaya> like you'd type in now
L250[10:48:32] <Izaya> not lua
L251[10:48:58] <nigh​tmare> wait
L252[10:49:02] <nigh​tmare> so what is it?
L253[10:49:16] <nigh​tmare> i think it can support only lua
L254[10:49:26] <Izaya> shrc is executed by the shell before it lets the user enter commands
L255[10:49:34] <Izaya> ls, cd, etc
L256[10:49:57] <Izaya> if you want to run a lua program you'll have to make a separate file then put it into shrc like you were running it from the shell
L257[10:50:11] <Izaya> if test.lua contains `print("testing")`
L258[10:50:22] <Izaya> you'd put `test` into shrc
L259[10:50:39] <nigh​tmare> oh
L260[10:50:39] <Izaya> shrc is for shell commands, not lua
L261[10:50:41] <Izaya> like bashrc or similar
L262[10:50:50] <nigh​tmare> and autorun can run lua?
L263[10:51:34] <Izaya> autorun.lua in the root of a drive? I think so, but I'm not sure whether it's enabled by default
L264[10:52:33] <nigh​tmare> ok
L265[10:52:49] <nigh​tmare> how works event library?
L266[10:53:02] <Izaya> https://ocdoc.cil.li/api:event
L267[10:53:31] <nigh​tmare> thx
L268[10:55:01] <nigh​tmare> u are using matrix?
L269[10:55:12] <Izaya> IRC via XMPP
L270[10:55:37] <nigh​tmare> and why don't using discord?
L271[10:55:43] <Izaya> not big on malware
L272[10:56:10] <nigh​tmare> oh, ok
L273[10:58:42] <nigh​tmare> how it can communicate with reactor from big reactors?
L274[11:23:38] <nigh​tmare> i think, reactor control rods, energy in reactor and if reactor run or not
L275[11:24:24] <nigh​tmare> i mean, reactor control rods, energy in reactor and if reactor run or not [Edited]
L276[11:31:00] <Va​ur> have a reactor computer port in your big reactor, place an adapter next to it, connect it to a computer, then its all a matter of using or writing a script for it
L277[11:59:16] <nigh​tmare> i have it
L278[11:59:24] <nigh​tmare> but idk how to get that info
L279[11:59:36] <nigh​tmare> reactor.power
L280[11:59:39] <nigh​tmare> idk
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L282[12:12:19] <Va​ur> @nightmare https://ocdoc.cil.li/component:component_access
L283[12:18:27] <nigh​tmare> with this i can get full control of reactor and info?
L284[12:18:50] <nigh​tmare> i mean, something as this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5ykH-I2CuM
L285[12:18:50] <MichiBot> OpenComputers & Extreme Reactors - Big Reactor Grid Controller Tutorial | length: 4m 57s | Likes: 130 Dislikes: 17 Views: 17,674 | by Schildkröte | Published On 22/4/2018
L286[12:19:17] <nigh​tmare> I want try to script it.
L287[12:19:51] <Va​ur> that's how you start yes
L288[12:20:22] <nigh​tmare> ok, I try to understand it. thx.
L289[13:09:12] <dequbed> Ariri: All non-humanoids are deserving of love and apprechation too!
L290[13:10:57] <Va​ur> %tonk
L291[13:10:58] <MichiBot> Dad-Sizzle! Va​ur! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of <0 (By 4 hours, 20 minutes and 53 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L292[13:10:59] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 4 hours, 20 minutes and 53 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.00435 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.
L293[13:12:58] <dequbed> Lizzy: Oh also, most SMPS have a rectifier in front for $reasons™, which means that a suprising amount of laptop power supplies run just fine with 48VDC on their 230VAC input.
L294[13:13:59] <Lizzy> interesting, though i was thinking more for full computers being powered off of it, not so much laptops (though i guess a laptop would need to be plugged in every now and then)
L295[13:15:20] <dequbed> Well ATX power supplies aren't built the same way as Laptop power supplies so it depends on the exact build-up if you can just run them off 48V
L296[13:16:12] <Lizzy> there was a site i found once, think it's a UK based company that make 12/24V DC-DC ATX PSUs which could probably be used
L297[13:16:47] <dequbed> Well if you're going solar you're most likely going to have 48V based systems so I'd look for 48VDC ATX supplies first. Not that they'd be hard to design either.
L298[13:16:59] <Lizzy> ye
L299[13:17:33] <Lizzy> don't think i'll attempt something for a while, cause it'll be another project on my list of 'in progress' projects lol
L300[13:17:44] <dequbed> Oh yeah that's fine
L301[13:17:57] <Lizzy> plus i also live in the UK, whilst we have some good sun right now, we don't have that all the time
L302[13:18:05] <dequbed> That being said there are a bunch of groups around insular grid solar systems.
L303[13:18:26] <dequbed> There's one I'm in which wants to build an USB-C based insular grid for next CCCamp :d
L304[13:20:54] <Lizzy> i think if/when i do get around to designing such a system, i'm going to have the battery (for storage, either a single one or a multi-cell battery like those with full off-grid power use), solar and wind input, and some way of using external AC power to charge the battery bank should it be needed (either via the grid or a portable generator or
L305[13:20:54] <Lizzy> something)
L306[13:21:28] <dequbed> Sounds like you're designing a classic insular grid :P
L307[13:22:00] <Lizzy> heh
L308[13:23:38] <dequbed> I mean, go for it. The most complex part of any solar system is putting power pack into the public grid and not doing that simplifies things a lot
L309[13:23:38] <Vampyre> Lizzy, some datacenters work on 48V DC for efficiency
L310[13:23:57] <Vampyre> I think there are standard ATX supplies which can run off that
L311[13:24:24] <Lizzy> aha
L312[13:24:28] <Lizzy> Sunpower-uk
L313[13:24:44] <Lizzy> that's the company i saw making the DC-DC PSUs
L314[13:26:05] <dequbed> I wonder how 48VDC inputside is supposed to be more efficient than 230VAC.
L315[13:27:06] <Vampyre> well, you consolidate most of the switching and down transforming to 1 place
L316[13:27:16] <Lizzy> I guess if you just have 48VDC for a single rack, then have 230VAC feeding whatever transformer steps that down, it might be more efficient than doing it in every server
L317[13:27:42] <Vampyre> so less components in the actual servers and heat production for the PSU art is centralized
L318[13:27:51] <Vampyre> part*
L319[13:28:00] <dequbed> Vampyre: ATX needs +5V, +12V, -12V, +3V3 though?
L320[13:28:17] <Vampyre> the powerlines from transformers to servers are short and wide enough to not cause powerlosses
L321[13:28:53] <Vampyre> yah, but that is mostly done with dc-dc now too (and most power is on the 12v rail I think)
L322[13:28:57] <dequbed> The only thing you're dropping with that is the transformer itself but at the same time you make generating -12V an annoying hassle.
L323[13:29:19] <Vampyre> -12v is easy if you have +48v ;-)
L324[13:29:26] <Lizzy> what even is -12V?
L325[13:29:38] <Lizzy> is it just another 12V rail?
L326[13:29:40] <dequbed> Vampyre: Way less easier than if you have AC input though.
L327[13:29:56] <dequbed> Lizzy: 12V but negative. Power flows from GND to -12V
L328[13:30:06] <Lizzy> ah
L329[13:30:44] <Lizzy> so for the -12V lines, just swap the polarity? or is it a bit more complext than that?
L330[13:31:21] <dequbed> Vampyre: Unless of course you re-reference GND to be +12V of your 48V input but that sounds like even more pain to make efficient.
L331[13:32:00] <Vampyre> well, I don't know the specifics exactly, am not an electro engineer ;-)
L332[13:32:12] <Vampyre> but I do think they just rereference ground
L333[13:32:20] <dequbed> Vampyre: Well see, I am. Which is why I'm asking myself how it's supposed to be more efficient ;)
L334[13:32:30] <Vampyre> then maybe do a 50% load switch and a capacitator?
L335[13:33:06] <dequbed> Lizzy: Well, if you have AC input you can easily rectify it to have a negative rail available to get other voltages. If you only have DC input and want to keep GND as GND for simplicity you need to specifically build an inverting SMPS which is annoying, needs large components and isn't efficient.
L336[13:34:25] <Vampyre> dequbed, I think the efficiency is not as much in power efficiency but in heat and component size
L337[13:34:50] <Lizzy> aah
L338[13:34:51] <dequbed> Well I mean I guess. You *do* lose the transformer which is expensive.
L339[13:35:11] <Vampyre> maybe a slightly more efficient setup because you can use more powerfull transformers, but PSU's nowadays are alreacy very efficient anyway
L340[13:35:34] <dequbed> The transformer is not where you have your losses anyway Vampyre
L341[13:35:44] <Vampyre> but if you do have 48V available already, like with solar, it's a good option
L342[13:36:09] <dequbed> Lizzy: Regardless. if you wanna go ahead with that insular grid do feel free to poke me. I'm currently desiging a network like that too but with a slightly different scope
L343[13:36:32] <ThePi​Guy24> smh my head, just wire solar panels durectly up to the atx power rails and hope that the voltage doesnt go iutside the desired range :p
L344[13:37:45] <Lizzy> @ThePiGuy24 I live in the UK, it's not so much going over that i'm worried about, it's the sudden cloud that drops out the whole pc
L345[13:37:57] <Lizzy> dequbed, will do
L346[13:40:05] * Lizzy goes back to figuring out ways she could have an "always on" vpn on her laptop set up in such a way that normal apps running on it are completely transparent to the underlying physical network conditions
L347[13:40:26] <stephan48> linux?
L348[13:40:34] <Lizzy> ye, it'll be linux based
L349[13:40:41] <stephan48> the almost ultimative answer is network namespaces
L350[13:41:00] <Lizzy> yup, that's ultimately going to be the base of what i want to use
L351[13:41:15] <stephan48> perfect :D
L352[13:41:38] <stephan48> i have setup a few of such setups if you want input just shout.. it might even force me to document them
L353[13:42:04] <dequbed> stephan48: *poke*
L354[13:42:08] <dequbed> Document them
L355[13:42:12] <stephan48> damn it!
L356[13:42:23] <dequbed> Or else I'll tell you about projects of mine at 1AM to stop you from sleeping!
L357[13:42:30] <stephan48> you can count on dequbed to have ideas about documentation
L358[13:43:00] <Lizzy> though i need to figure out routing and stuff, cause whilst Wireguard is the fastest and easiest to set up, if a network blocks UDP traffic or otherwise blocks wireguard's traffic, i want to have alternative 'routes' in place, so for example i might also run tinc along-side it and have that as backup route so that in the event that wireguard can't
L359[13:43:00] <Lizzy> get through, tinc might be able to
L360[13:43:02] <dequbed> stephan48: I will document your butt! :<
L361[13:43:03] <stephan48> i really need to find a not sucking stephan(read as idiot)proof blog software
L362[13:43:26] <stephan48> uhhh. *is unsure if he should be scared or not*
L363[13:43:28] <Lizzy> or other bits, like an ssh tunnel (obviously the more tcp-over-tcp-ness of the vpn, the less priority it'll have)
L364[13:43:35] <Lizzy> OwO
L365[13:44:59] <Vampyre> poor mans solution" bridge a tap which tunnels over ssh (openssh has tap support) ;-)
L366[13:45:21] <Lizzy> that'll be one of my "backup" routes
L367[13:45:59] <Lizzy> because if i can use a UDP-based VPN (like WG, or tinc with a UDP connection), that'll be better than tcp over tcp
L368[13:46:14] <dequbed> stephan48: Wordpress? Yeah cliché I know but there's a reason it's so popular
L369[13:46:23] <stephan48> the "simplest" was to have a main network namespace where your apps live(or your lan interface if you are a router), and then depending on sophiscation one to X uplink namespaces, one setup i have is just a networkns per outside interface so i can debug routing and DNS properly, and openvpn running in main... main has only a route to the vpn server(everything else is firewalled both in main and the uplink
L370[13:46:29] <stephan48> NS) which routes to the active uplink
L371[13:46:40] <stephan48> no i refuse to plonk that piece of php crap on any of my systems
L372[13:47:07] <ThePi​Guy24> wordpress brings me great pain when i attempt to use it
L373[13:47:19] <stephan48> mainly i try to avoid php like the plague
L374[13:47:58] <Lizzy> i've not had much issue with WP, granted i have minimal plugins and it's only running my blog because ADHD and an ever growing list of project ideas meant that it's simpler to just replace it later than work on getting something set up lol
L375[13:48:06] <stephan48> another step would be having a "routing NS" between main and the uplinks, main NS would just see a route into the routing NS. routing NS would then have the openvpn process and routes depending on the uplink
L376[13:48:50] <stephan48> having a dedicated routing NS allows for "main" to not know or be able to interact with which is the uplink. especially fucking helpfull with DNS stuff.
L377[13:49:12] <stephan48> dequbed: i might just settle for something emacs org-mode and static generatory based
L378[13:50:10] <dequbed> stephan48: http://hyde.github.io/ ? That's about as stupid as you can get and it does EMACS iirc
L379[13:50:43] <stephan48> org-mode was just an interesting idea because it apparently allows for inline code/shell editing and capturing outputs
L380[13:50:50] <stephan48> i am a vim user. ;)
L381[13:51:26] <stephan48> i have another friend who is pestering me with the need to document my stuffs.
L382[13:51:31] <dequbed> I shouldn't be the one to talk my blog is handwritten haskell that uses libgit2 to generate from a bare repo and consideres "git push to main" an alias to "publish" :P
L383[13:51:48] <stephan48> well thats essentially where i wanna land
L384[13:52:33] <stephan48> heck i even considered just plugging a markdown into caldav. as thats editable from ANYWHERE, does version control on my radicale and allows for easy things like "publish on XXX"
L385[13:52:47] <dequbed> stephan48: https://github.com/dequbed/hibachi I need to update that repo though
L386[13:53:21] <stephan48> pkt? why does that haunt me so much :D
L387[13:53:52] <dequbed> pkt?
L388[13:54:06] <stephan48> your top repos.
L389[13:54:22] <dequbed> Oh that
L390[13:54:24] <stephan48> (i have met the inventor.. we talked about that for some time. and now i am watching the spammy telegram group)
L391[13:55:22] <stephan48> firefox firefox i know you eat all my rams again... please now use them to work and not hang slowly
L392[13:55:47] <dequbed> stephan48: Better question is how many monies have you made from PKT? :p
L393[13:56:08] <stephan48> none. because i never found the time to look into that modern money printing crap
L394[13:56:20] <Lizzy> yeah, my idea is mainly the "default" namespace be all the userspace apps and stuff, like FF and whatever, which has a route into a 'routing' NS, which then has the physical interfaces and VPN interfaces and also something maybe like OSPF running to dynamically adjust routes depending on what it can see
L395[13:56:30] <dequbed> stephan48: It *is* a money printer, yes :P
L396[13:57:05] <stephan48> its a good thing i had said friend explain haskell to me recently
L397[13:57:50] <stephan48> not that i understand one iota but atleast i can somewhat infer meaning of it now
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L399[13:58:37] <dequbed> stephan48: There are a few bugs still, at least one in libgit2 that I need to figure out but eeeeeeeh it's like *really* inconsistent so I guess somewhere in GC or compressing code.
L400[13:58:52] <stephan48> the annoying kind of bugs
L401[13:59:02] <stephan48> Lizzy: that sounds sane :D
L402[13:59:21] <Lizzy> also, with linux, if i have multiple routes to a given network range with different metrics, am i right in thinking that linux wont actually consider the higher-cost routes unless the 'physical' link is marked as being down?
L403[13:59:30] <stephan48> on a desktop it rarely makes sense to move stuff out of the default namespace, its just cumbersome
L404[13:59:52] <Lizzy> ye
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L406[14:00:05] <stephan48> ofcourse there are usecases like having a stripped down firefox running inside a wifi-namespace to negotiate captive portals
L407[14:00:14] <stephan48> but thats then controlled.
L408[14:01:28] <stephan48> hrm. its complicated. theres multipath support for routes nowadays, which in theory also allows load balancing and cost stuffs.
L409[14:02:08] <stephan48> but yea the essence is, unless you signal it somehow(like with OSPF/BGP pulling routes or changing metrics) that the best routes are unavailable it wont use the high cost ones
L410[14:02:36] <stephan48> but tbh. thats an area i have not played with yet but one which will be interesting to me in the future
L411[14:03:13] <dequbed> Lizzy: If I understood you correctly that's in the Rule subsystem of the network stack. `ip rule` and friends. You can have complex decision trees what route to use in any given situatio
L412[14:03:53] <dequbed> All the routing protocols make extensive use of that, pinging Kilobyte though who played with our network in that regard the most.
L413[14:04:24] <stephan48> there is also multipath via ip route nowadays
L414[14:04:50] <stephan48> brb need to go into the DC.. debugging a customer system and plugging in an usb stick small enough to get forever lost in the rack \o/
L415[14:11:16] <Vampyre> Lizzy, for routing, if 2 equal paths are found, the one with lowest metric is always taken, but indeed, the ip rule framework is better, that allows way more control over routing dicissions
L416[14:11:36] <Vampyre> things like source routing and stuff is done there
L417[14:13:34] <Lizzy> yeah, it's not so much the complex routing i need to handle, as i can summarise most of the routes i use into a single range, it was more the fact that if Wireguard cannot establish a link, i have no real way of signalling that to the kernel so it fails over to tinc
L418[14:14:20] <Lizzy> tinc 1.1 has the DeviceStandby option so that if it can't reach anything it'll mark it's interface as unavailable, so no real issue there
L419[14:19:09] <Lizzy> also, another random requirement that i just thought of that isn't 100% essential, when my laptop is at home and connected to my home wifi, then it should just bypass all the vpn stuff since it'll already be more-or-less directly connected to one of the nodes it would have connected to anyway
L420[14:21:31] <Vampyre> you could likely set it up so that a connect/deconnect script runs 1 ip rule or iptables command to reroute all new connections over wifi directly
L421[14:22:42] <Vampyre> I assume you don't want your currect connections going over VPN killed when you enter home, so maybe conntrack will be of use?
L422[14:23:24] <Lizzy> i was more thinking along the lines that if it can detect that it's connected to my home wifi (SSID matches), it just turns off all the vpn stuff since the default route will be the server that's one of my two "main" nodes
L423[14:24:36] <Vampyre> yah, also possible, but all old connections will be killed then
L424[14:24:40] <Lizzy> i mean, all the routing would happen in a seperate namespace, so stuff like FF wouldn't notice it being disconnected. plus it's rare that i'll be going from phone hotspot or other wifi to home wifi with the laptop still be on
L425[14:24:52] <Vampyre> oh, wait, your vpn is also in home?
L426[14:25:25] <Vampyre> in that case... hmz
L427[14:26:02] <Lizzy> yeah, the way i'll have it working is that my home server and main dedicated server are perm connected to each other, and when i'm out and about, my laptop will connect to both of them and route where it can, when i load my laptop up at home, it doesn't need to have another connection going to the same place so just goes via my home server
L428[14:26:41] <Vampyre> hypthetical, if you are not home, and have a connection to something on your local network, that connection when not from home would connect from the vpn
L429[14:27:01] <Vampyre> the moment you then get on wifi and local network, that connection then comes directly from your laptop
L430[14:27:42] <Vampyre> even if youget on wifi with the same ip as you had when on VPN, the TCP state to keep that connection going is at the VPN server
L431[14:27:53] <Vampyre> so, I'm not sure if you can do this directly
L432[14:29:09] <Lizzy> i probably didn't explain myself fully, as far as something on my laptop is concerned, it's on it's own little namespace (which will most likely be the default namespace). the default NS on my laptop then has a "default gateway" of a second "Routing" NS, where all the physical interfaces, vpn interfaces and routing deciding scripts will be
L433[14:29:40] <Lizzy> so all it will be, is just a different 'route' between each of the points
L434[14:30:11] <Lizzy> might be a few dropped packets here and there when switchover occurs, but tcp is built to handle that anyway
L435[14:31:05] <Lizzy> i think if i was using something like NAT to go from my laptop's userland stuff to the vpn, then that might cause issues
L436[14:31:40] <Lizzy> but since each end of the potential connections are blind to the route changes, it shouldn't be an issue
L437[14:31:50] <Vampyre> but is the namespace supposed to be in your local physical wifi network?
L438[14:32:05] <Vampyre> or is irt completely blissfully unaware of that?
L439[14:33:21] <Lizzy> the default namespace will only have a single interface to the routing namespace, the routing NS is where the physical wifi card will be, because it'll need to handle being both on my home network and on untrusted public networks
L440[14:34:27] <Lizzy> wireguard and tinc can both fwmark the 'vpn' side of their packets so those would be routed out of the physical wifi adapter, everything else would go through the vpn links
L441[14:34:36] <Lizzy> s/links/interfaces
L442[14:34:36] <MichiBot> <Lizzy> wireguard and tinc can both fwmark the 'vpn' side of their packets so those would be routed out of the physical wifi adapter, everything else would go through the vpn interfaces
L443[14:37:26] <Vampyre> ah, ok, so the vpn endpoint will just litterly bridge all traffic to local sub which would otherwise go out of physical wifi
L444[14:37:34] <Lizzy> ye
L445[14:37:41] <Vampyre> got it and thatt indeed will work ;-)
L446[14:37:59] <Izaya> turns out that if you gentle takeover primitives in the early space age you get to keep their cute space stations https://social.shadowkat.net/media/9066b4c77e7e7517351e3a07e645f456e4e4c55a247662c28a163de9ac467581.jpg
L447[14:38:10] <Vampyre> just indeed change the rule or table when on or off wifi I guess
L448[14:39:03] <Lizzy> also having the seperation like that will allow me to further harden my laptop's network presence on untrusted networks. since the only outbound connections will be WG,Tinc or SSH, I can block out anything else including much of the broadcast spam. maybe if i find out a way of discovering the default gateway's MAC address, then i can just have the
L449[14:39:03] <Lizzy> kernel drop any ARP request packets that are not from the router for my laptop
L450[14:40:11] <Lizzy> i've considered looking into a way to drop most of the arp requests on the network for my dedi, but it doesn't help with OVH's fucking routers just floof the network with them -_-
L451[14:40:27] <Vampyre> to get the mac address you can use arping
L452[14:40:48] <Vampyre> then just drop all arp in the raw table at the door
L453[14:41:27] <Lizzy> I saw roughly 20 packets per second of ARP spam when i last did a wireshark dump of my dedi's main interface
L454[14:41:28] <Vampyre> well, except for arp reply's back to the gateway I guess ;-)
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L456[14:43:43] <Lizzy> yeah, and if i can maybe get it working how i want it to, i could possibly utilise /etc/mac (or whatever the MAC address version of /etc/hosts is) so that my laptop wouldn't ask for the gateway MAC once it was connected to the network
L457[14:44:50] <Vampyre> I assume that sets a static arp (arp -s) if you want to do it completely manually or dynamic
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L459[14:45:15] <Lizzy> yeah, not sure how i'd do that yet, if at all
L460[14:46:40] <Lizzy> all i know is that i can put up a tighter firewall over the physical network interface when they're only serving as a transport for VPN interfaces, don't have to deal with applications making arbitary connections out since those will all go over the vpn in most cases
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L471[16:41:29] <MichiBot> Inari is brushing Amanda with a Shiny family of quakers! (10%). Amanda regains 1d4 => 2 hit points!
L472[16:43:52] <Ariri> %pet dequbed
L473[16:43:52] <MichiBot> Ariri is petting dequbed with feature creep. dequbed regains 1d4 => 4 hit points!
L474[16:46:54] <Forec​aster> petting DLC, only 9.99
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L477[16:55:23] <dequbed> %pet Ariri
L478[16:55:23] <MichiBot> dequbed is petting Ariri with proprietary thought police. Ariri regains 1d4 => 2 hit points! Turns out proprietary thought police's weakness was common water all along!
L479[16:56:11] <Ariri> we did it fellas, Big Brother is no more
L480[16:56:34] <Vampyre> he got replaced by big sister
L481[16:57:07] <Ariri> ~onee-san~
L482[16:57:19] <ThePi​Guy24> Sizeable Sibling
L483[16:57:39] <Ariri> yes
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L485[17:19:42] <Inari> %pet Ariri
L486[17:19:42] <MichiBot> Inari is petting Ariri with XNA Framework 3.1. Ariri regains 1d4 => 2 hit points!
L487[17:25:49] <Ariri> %bonk Inari
L488[17:25:50] <MichiBot> Ariri bonks Inari on the head with the lumpy potato for 1d​4 => 2 damage!
L489[17:26:11] <Inari> :p
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L495[18:24:00] <bad at​ vijya> god fucking damnit
L496[18:24:07] <bad at​ vijya> i gotta patch some grub2 shitcode
L497[18:29:06] <Forec​aster> %tonkout
L498[18:29:06] <MichiBot> Wow! Forec​aster! You beat Va​ur's previous record of 4 hours, 20 minutes and 53 seconds (By 57 minutes and 15 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L499[18:29:08] <MichiBot> Forec​aster has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.005 tonk points! plus 0.004 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 1.1935007. Position #3 Need 0.0730403 more points to pass Compan​ionCube!
L500[18:30:22] <Em​mi> %tonk
L501[18:30:42] <Em​mi> excuse my lack of reading the timestamp
L502[18:37:07] <bad at​ vijya> >disable -Werror
L503[18:37:23] <bad at​ vijya> >nah, get fucked, this is GNU code
L504[18:37:34] <bad at​ vijya> >we have so many instances of -Werror you wouldn't believe
L505[18:37:59] <SoraFi​restorm> so I was looking around the OC Github trying to be helpful on some issues because I was around anyways
L506[18:38:44] <SoraFi​restorm> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/3444 I am actually getting the same results more or less as described... seems like modem messages actually aren't propagating wirelessly for some reason?
L507[18:38:44] <MichiBot> Title: [1.12.2] Wireless messages not working - event.pull("modem_message") | Posted by: Jlectric | Posted: Sat Jun 05 17:33:08 UTC 2021 | Status: open
L508[18:39:28] <SoraFi​restorm> I can't get a pair of T1 wireless adapters a block apart (just like in the sample video) to acknowledge each other
L509[18:39:46] <SoraFi​restorm> I originally figured it was just user error about the signal strength and said as much
L510[18:40:02] <SoraFi​restorm> but then... it doesn't work for me either, and I'm definitely setting the signal strength properly
L511[18:47:43] <bad at​ vijya> pain suffering and agony
L512[18:47:59] <bad at​ vijya> `contrib/lua/lauxlib.c:594:12: error: too few arguments to function ‘grubfileopen’`
L513[18:48:08] <bad at​ vijya> we're hitting levels of shitcode here that i didn't even know were possible
L514[18:51:14] <bad at​ vijya> anyways, now i have to figure out what the fuck the file types even mean
L515[18:56:55] <bad at​ vijya> anyways
L516[18:57:06] <bad at​ vijya> seems the lua module wasn't updated for a lesser eternity
L517[18:57:36] <bad at​ vijya> guess i should make a PR to fix it, but it still requires being configured with `--disable-werror`
L518[19:13:30] <bad at​ vijya> god this is stupid
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L520[19:25:39] <Kristo​pher38> @SoraFirestorm it's a known problem that has been fixed in the dev builds
L521[19:25:54] <SoraFi​restorm> neat
L522[19:26:02] <bad at​ vijya> rage, anger, hatred
L523[19:26:08] <bad at​ vijya> this is how i feel about the grub2 build process
L524[19:26:16] <SoraFi​restorm> I suppose then someone official should close the issue then :)
L525[19:27:18] <SoraFi​restorm> ah, that's why looking through the code didn't produce any notable hints of problematic behavior, doh
L526[19:27:19] <bad at​ vijya> anyways, now that everything works, i can continue to make my super boot stick
L527[19:27:52] <SoraFi​restorm> ah, very nice, thank you for replying to the issue :)
L528[19:28:06] <Kristo​pher38> np
L529[19:29:01] <SoraFi​restorm> I'll have to test it later, but I will come back and confirm either way on the issue
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L532[20:22:14] <Va​ur> %tonk
L533[20:22:14] <MichiBot> Darn! Va​ur! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of <0 (By 1 hour, 53 minutes and 7 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L534[20:22:15] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 1 hour, 53 minutes and 7 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.00189 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.
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L536[20:25:41] <test> holhiii
L537[20:25:46] <test> hi
L538[20:25:47] <dequbed> %hello
L539[20:25:47] <MichiBot> Hello! Welcome to #oc! The one and only opencomputers channel! Please ask your questions directly (dont ask to ask) and provide error/code examples! (Use pastebin.com if theyre more than one line!) Dont mind the random conversation you might have walked into.
L540[20:25:55] <test> im new to opencomputers what i do
L541[20:26:18] <test> hello?
L542[20:26:25] <dequbed> press buttons
L543[20:26:30] <test> ik
L544[20:26:32] <test> but
L545[20:26:43] <test> im playing with friend on minecraft
L546[20:26:54] <test> hi
L547[20:27:05] <test> hes watching our screen pc
L548[20:27:12] <test> opencomputers screen''
L549[20:27:23] <test> ye he do typing
L550[20:27:40] <test> is there any way to free up the memory?
L551[20:28:56] <test> why nobody helping
L552[20:30:31] <test> HELLO?ss
L553[20:30:34] <test> HELLO???
L554[20:30:44] <dequbed> IRC does not stand for "Instant Reply Chat"
L555[20:31:04] <test> is there any way to free up the memory
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L557[20:31:24] <dequbed> don't use any, close down applications
L558[20:31:30] <test> oh
L559[20:31:44] <test> me and my friend builded big pc
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L561[20:33:29] <test> sdafdsalkfjdsalkjfdsafajslkdfljdsajfajslkdflkjadlkjf
L562[20:33:35] * test pro
L563[20:33:43] -test- i gopt radmin
L564[20:33:56] <test> a
L565[20:34:03] <dequbed> Please don't spam
L566[20:34:33] <test> ok and
L567[20:34:56] <test> its not me my friend is typing these
L568[20:35:18] <test> k bbye ur so boriung
L569[20:35:22] <test> dude
L570[20:35:23] <dequbed> %bye
L571[20:35:23] <MichiBot> Oh, well, bye I guess...
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L573[20:42:30] <Hawk777> Always fun when you glance back at a channel and someone has arrived, monologued, and left in the mean time.
L574[20:42:58] <dequbed> Hey at least you only got annoyed once :P
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L576[20:46:29] <Hawk777> True.
L577[21:39:25] <bad at​ vijya> https://tinyurl.com/ye7zt3sp
L578[21:39:49] <bad at​ vijya> for some reason uefi isn't working
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L580[21:56:32] <bad at​ vijya> https://tinyurl.com/yzv2e3pv
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L582[22:16:40] <bad at​ vijya> Izaya: look what i made
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L585[22:43:54] <Em​mi> wow
L586[22:45:28] <Em​mi> dequbed: Good one https://emmi.catgirl.buzz/fMGm64wL_
L587[22:45:55] <Em​mi> ill hang it up on my wall
L588[22:46:12] <Kristo​pher38> you'll have a pretty boring wall then
L589[22:47:00] <Em​mi> shush
L590[23:00:57] <Amanda> Was going to click that, did click, decided whatever the hell out was wasn't worth going though capchas twice due
L591[23:08:43] <Amanda> %choose pizza or something else
L592[23:08:43] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: I've heard "pizza" is in these days
L593[23:11:42] <Amanda> %choose hallucinate or irradiate
L594[23:11:42] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Haven't you always gone with "irradiate"? Hm, maybe not.
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L596[23:21:52] <Va​ur> %tonkout
L597[23:21:52] <MichiBot> Woooo! Va​ur! You beat your own previous record of 1 hour, 53 minutes and 7 seconds (By 1 hour, 6 minutes and 30 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L598[23:21:53] <MichiBot> Va​ur has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.002 tonk points! plus 0.002 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 1.55288255, Position #1
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