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<ThePiGuy24> perhaps
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<ThePiGuy24> b
L7[00:09:22] <dequbed> Apparently vim
plugins don't have direct access to bigints and kinda go boom if
confronted with large numbers. Good to know
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L12[00:23:22] <Michiyo> Ok... so it looks
more like VMs in general aren't getting routed properly, containers
are fine though...
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L15[00:35:30] <Michiyo> "Why is this
taking so fucking long to install....." "Press enter to
reboot"
L16[00:35:30] <Michiyo> Oh
L17[00:35:32] <Michiyo> fuck.
L18[00:38:04] <Amanda> Michiyo at least
it's not asking you to press the any key
L19[00:44:47] <Michiyo> heh
L20[00:45:00] <Michiyo> god damn
it...
L21[00:45:02] <Michiyo> *sigh*
L22[00:45:39] <Michiyo> Why wont the VMs
fucking route properly
L23[00:45:41] *
Michiyo stabs proxmox
L24[00:46:30] <Michiyo> if I put a nic on
the main bridge it works, but I don't route traffic out of the VPN
on the host
L25[00:56:35] <Amanda> Oh right, I was
going to look at the SNR difference now that comcrap ran a new
line
L26[00:57:05] <Amanda> They discovered
someone spliced into our line at the pole
L27[00:58:08] <Amanda> Or rather, they
found a splice at the pole. My dad thinks the last tech that came
out was just lazy and didn't want to run a whole new line
L28[01:02:17] <Amanda> %remindme 16h check
the 2-day history on the surfboard
L29[01:02:18] <MichiBot> I'll tell you
"check the 2-day history on the surfboard" in 16h at
06/02/2021 05:02:17 PM
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<bad at
vijya> i nearly got into an accident on the way home
L33[01:24:26]
<bad at
vijya> also Michiyo: one of my VMs won't route anymore
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<EcmaXp>
test
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<EcmaXp>
@InfinityB it still online T_T
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L39[01:53:43] <Izaya> what's still
online
L40[02:01:59] <Amanda> Izaya in theory, my
server
L41[02:02:32] <Amanda> Except for ipv6
since apparently google broke ipv6 with Comcast in a recentish
iodate
L42[02:03:48] <Amanda> Oh. I see the skin
corded message now
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L44[02:11:49]
<Michiyo>
@InfinityB Ask your question here.
L45[02:12:17]
<Michiyo> I
may be the primary dev of OpenSecurity, but lots of people know far
more than I do here.
L46[02:24:58] <Amanda> Such as the number
of digits on pi
L47[02:25:19] <Amanda> There's actually
green digits
L48[02:25:52] *
Amanda nods sagely
L49[02:27:46] <Amanda> %tell Inari look,
you're story about the time traveling cyborg lady fighting the 1%
in the dystopian future is good and all, but why did you write it
on your typewriter-clock?
L50[02:27:47] <MichiBot> Amanda: Inari
will be notified of this message when next seen.
L51[02:40:30]
<InfinityB>
ok
L52[02:41:14]
<InfinityB>
anyone know of any script that's not the default one that checks a
pin on a keypad and then opens os_rolldoorcontroller?
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L55[03:04:51] <Michiyo> Specifically
toggle, or open
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L60[04:06:42] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L61[04:06:43] <MichiBot> Fopdoodle!
CompanionCube! You beat Forecaster's previous record of <0 (By
6 hours, 22 minutes and 50 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L62[04:06:44] <MichiBot> CompanionCube's
new record is 6 hours, 22 minutes and 50 seconds! CompanionCube
also gained 0.00638 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2.
Need 0.21041155 more points to pass Vaur!
L63[04:07:05] <CompanionCube> shit, too
long
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<bad at
vijya> so
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<bad at
vijya> i fixed my server
L70[05:09:13]
<bad at
vijya> sorta
L71[05:09:25]
<bad at
vijya> by pointing wireguard at the "local ip" of the
wireguard host
L72[05:09:31]
<bad at
vijya> so it still has zero internet access
L73[05:09:34]
<bad at
vijya> but whatever
L74[05:09:42]
<bad at
vijya> the sites it hosts work
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<niel cicierega
(aka lemon demon)> can someone refresh my memory
L80[07:32:46]
<niel cicierega
(aka lemon demon)> what was the command to
L81[07:32:52]
<niel cicierega
(aka lemon demon)> download something off the web
L82[07:32:57] <CompanionCube> wget?
L83[07:33:02]
<niel cicierega
(aka lemon demon)> right
L84[07:33:03]
<niel cicierega
(aka lemon demon)> thank you
L85[07:33:07] <CompanionCube> bad phrases:
'NFT Relationship Tokenization on Blockchain'
L86[07:38:06]
<Michiyo> I
REALLY need to get 10GB networking setup in my rack... I'm
HAMMERING this 1GB with iSCSI backed proxmox... lol
L88[07:40:08]
<Michiyo>
In theory I could just toss a couple of 10GB SFP+ cards in the VM
server and NAS and a DAC
L89[07:41:47]
<niel cicierega
(aka lemon demon)> holy shit
L90[07:41:50]
<niel cicierega
(aka lemon demon)> 1gbps recieve?
L91[07:41:59]
<niel cicierega
(aka lemon demon)> ive never seen something more beautiful in
my life
L92[07:44:48]
<Michiyo>
NAS is a 12x2 CPU box with 32GB of RAM, VMHost is a 4x16 CPU Box
with 256GB of RAM, so plenty of hardware to throw around
1Gbps
L93[07:45:05]
<Michiyo>
NAS is a 2x12 CPU box with 32GB of RAM, VMHost is a 4x16 CPU Box
with 256GB of RAM, so plenty of hardware to throw around 1Gbps
[Edited]
L96[07:47:53]
<niel cicierega
(aka lemon demon)> 🥲
L97[07:48:11]
<Michiyo>
Supposed to be 1Gbps..... lol
L98[07:48:22]
<Michiyo>
There is a decent load right now so meh
L100[07:48:38]
<niel cicierega
(aka lemon demon)> i dont think ive ever gotten more than 5mbps
upload at home
L101[07:49:00]
<lucsoft>
download is nice but upload sob
L102[07:49:16]
<lucsoft>
download is nice but upload \😭 [Edited]
L103[07:49:19]
<lucsoft>
download is nice but uploa [Edited]
L104[07:49:21]
<lucsoft>
download is nice but uplod [Edited]
L105[07:49:24]
<lucsoft>
download is nice but upload [Edited]
L107[07:51:07]
<lucsoft> i
like how similar it is to mine
L108[07:51:20]
<lucsoft> i
like how similar it is to my [Edited]
L109[07:51:28]
<lucsoft> i
like how similar it is to my stats [Edited]
L110[07:53:48]
<Michiyo>
There is a reason I'm looking to selfhost my stuff... I can pay
$11.50 a month to OVH for a VPS to route all of my public stuff to
the internet...
L111[07:54:01]
<Michiyo>
OR I can pay $104 a month for a dedicated server... lol
L112[07:54:33]
<Michiyo> I
lose out on the safety that a datacenter gives me..
L113[07:54:35]
<Michiyo>
but eh
L114[07:55:29]
<lucsoft>
how massive/heavy are you task that you need a 104$ dedicated
server lol
L116[07:56:59]
<Michiyo>
non peak time currently, but I run some gameservers, including an
older MMO that got source leaked a couple of years ago
L117[07:57:13]
<Michiyo>
and it REALLY likes resources.
L118[07:58:02]
<Michiyo>
of course, right after I take that screenshot, CPU usage bounces up
to ~40% lol
L119[07:59:08]
<bad at
vijya> i need to start running backups
L120[07:59:12]
<bad at
vijya> i have a few hard drives i can use
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L124[08:09:06] <s_a_m> now, time to work
on lcpio
L125[08:10:37]
<Michiyo>
AAAAAAAA this clone needs to finish already.
L126[08:10:49]
<Michiyo>
it would have been faster to have just installed windows...
L127[08:11:59]
<lucsoft>
>Michiyo: non peak time currently, but I run some …
L128[08:12:00]
<lucsoft>
okay this explains a lot
L129[08:17:03]
<Michiyo>
FINALLY finished.
L130[08:17:03]
<Michiyo>
yay
L132[08:20:21]
<Michiyo>
I've tried Proxmox told me to go eff myself.
L133[08:20:36]
<Michiyo>
Not worth the server downtime currently lol,.
L134[08:21:26]
<lucsoft>
downtime what? oh because of partitioning?
L135[08:21:40]
<Michiyo>
Ok...... NOW.... Will the janked up networking setup work properly
in Windows? Let's hope
L136[08:23:22]
<Michiyo>
"No network access"
L137[08:23:27]
<Michiyo>
God damn it.
L138[08:24:53]
<Michiyo>
Once again, works in containers, but VMs get nothing.
L140[08:25:15]
<bad at
vijya> [x] nice
L142[08:29:40]
<bad at
vijya> lcpio is an archive utility i'm working on
>->
L143[08:30:00]
<bad at
vijya> it's my own version of the cpio utility
L144[08:30:13]
<bad at
vijya> but i can extend it with lua for supporting more
formats
L146[08:30:51]
<Michiyo>
ummm
L147[08:30:53]
<Michiyo>
....
L148[08:30:56]
<Michiyo>
UMMMM
L149[08:31:09]
<bad at
vijya> windows moment
L150[08:31:14]
<lucsoft>
dns not working...wait...
L151[08:32:42]
<Michiyo>
Oh....
L152[08:32:46]
<Michiyo> I
had the subnet wrong
L153[08:33:02]
<Michiyo>
255.0.0.0 "worked" but 255.255.255.255 actually
works.
L154[08:33:28]
<Michiyo>
VirtIO nic works @ 10Gbps... lulz
L155[08:36:19]
<lucsoft>
just `iface eth0 inet6 auto`
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<bad at
vijya> Izaya: it's happening
L161[09:09:02]
<bad at
vijya> oh, and @Ocawesome101
L162[09:10:04] <Izaya> neat
L163[09:10:10] <Izaya> I guess that means
it's compliant
L164[09:12:30]
<bad at
vijya> yeah
L165[09:12:35]
<bad at
vijya> just reading atm
L166[09:12:45]
<bad at
vijya> gonna do writing out archives now
L167[09:13:02]
<Kleadron>
good lord
L168[09:15:11] <Izaya> dumb question
L169[09:15:13] <Izaya> but
L170[09:15:22] <Izaya> is
root=UUID=whatever only available if you have udev?
L171[09:15:49] <Izaya> that may have
caused your UUID woes
L172[09:15:57] <dequbed> Yes, but
asterisk
L173[09:18:19] <dequbed> As in; you can
configure your system in a way that gives you UUID without udev and
doesn't give you UUIDs with udev but unless you purposefully did
that udevd et.al. is what gives you UUIDs
L174[09:19:33] <dequbed> Keep in mind that
udevd has moved under stewardship of systemd so if you start
foaming at the mouth at every mention of systemd tooling then that
might very well be your issue.
L175[09:20:14]
<bad at
vijya> while not the same, you can use PARTUUID
L176[09:20:39] <dequbed> Which required
GPT
L177[09:21:13]
<bad at
vijya> works on MBR
L178[09:23:09] <dequbed> Should only work
on MBR if you have an udevd that attaches an PARTUUID otherwise you
should only get <devname><mbrnumber> i.e. sda1 et.al.
Not 100% on the details though
L179[09:24:14]
<bad at
vijya> very much worked on my machine
L180[09:24:34]
<bad at
vijya> on my P3 machine i used for LuPPC
L182[10:02:30] <MichiBot> dequbed: Elfi
will be notified of this message when next seen.
L183[10:02:34] <MichiBot> Tue Jun 01
20:31:32 UTC 2021 @1Schoolhouse: I messaged a friend “Happy Pride
Month” but it autocorrected to “Happy Pride Moth” so anyway I made
this: <
https://t.co/zFyiuSTnjQ>
L184[10:39:56]
<bad at
vijya> oh yeah
L185[10:40:01]
<bad at
vijya> i finally fixed my fucking certs
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L187[10:45:42]
<Vaur>
%tonk
L188[10:45:43] <MichiBot> Heckgosh! Vaur!
You beat CompanionCube's previous record of 6 hours, 22 minutes
and 50 seconds (By 16 minutes and 8 seconds)! I hope you're
happy!
L189[10:45:44] <MichiBot> Vaur's new
record is 6 hours, 38 minutes and 59 seconds! Vaur also gained
0.00189 (0.00027 x 7) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position
#1.
L190[11:47:09]
<niel cicierega
(aka lemon demon)> %tonk
L192[11:47:13]
<niel cicierega
(aka lemon demon)> aaaa
L193[11:47:48]
<niel cicierega
(aka lemon demon)> %tonk D4DC5
L194[11:47:48] <MichiBot> I'm sorry niel
cicierega (aka lemon demon), you were not able to beat Vaur's
record of 6 hours, 38 minutes and 59 seconds this time. 1 hour, 2
minutes and 6 seconds were wasted! Missed by 5 hours, 36 minutes
and 53 seconds!
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L197[12:21:14] <Amanda> H-hey! How'd you
find this image of me from my childhood!?
L199[12:25:33] <Izaya> I look forward to
trying raytracing on my 580
L200[12:25:34] <Izaya> B)
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<Forecaster> %sip
L204[13:31:11] <MichiBot> You drink a
runny rainbow potion (New!). Forecaster comes face to face with a
basilisk! Forecaster is turned to stone until they have a nap (5 vs
DC 14)
L205[13:31:35]
<Forecaster> But does being petrified
count as napping
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L207[13:39:42] <Amanda> %8ball does being
petrified count as napping?
L208[13:39:42] <MichiBot> Amanda: Ask
again later
L209[13:40:07] <Amanda> WEll, judging from
Dr Stone, no, considering the MC counted the seconds while he was
petified.
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L214[13:58:59] <Izaya> it's like lucid
dreaming
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L219[16:58:30] <Corded> * <Michiyo>
flips a table
L220[16:59:10] <Corded> *
<Forecaster> tips a flable
L221[16:59:22]
<Michiyo>
Got janky networking to work on ONE Linux container, and ONE
Windows VM.... even cloning the working systems and modifying the
IPs fails to get another working machine.
L222[16:59:48]
<lucsoft>
same mac addresse 😂 ?
L223[16:59:56]
<Michiyo>
Nope
L224[17:00:03]
<lucsoft>
same mac adresse 😂 ? [Edited]
L225[17:02:18] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER:
check the 2-day history on the surfboard
L226[17:02:21]
<Michiyo>
Basically I have a VPS running a VPN in bridge mode, and on proxmox
I have a VPN client connected to said bridge. I can then assign the
VMs external IPs so I can do stuff without having to deal with LAN
and portforwards.
L227[17:03:46]
<Michiyo>
Since my ISP doesn't give the option for multiple IPs.
L228[17:06:04]
<Michiyo> I
HAD this working on 2 machines, then ended up having to reinstall
proxmox
L229[17:06:07]
<Michiyo>
and now no.
L230[17:09:07]
<lucsoft>
are you required to use VMs?
L231[17:09:07]
<lucsoft>
Did you tried docker? it would be easier i think.
L232[17:09:09]
<lucsoft>
are you required to use VMs?
L233[17:09:09]
<lucsoft>
Did you tried docker? it would be easier i think [Edited]
L234[17:09:29]
<lucsoft>
are you required to use VMs?
L235[17:09:30]
<lucsoft>
Did you tried docker? it would be easier i think but im not sure
[Edited]
L236[17:11:59] <Vampyre> Michio, it might
be that you need proxy arp enabled?
L237[17:12:52] <Vampyre> dunno how your
setup is now, but if your external router is publishing multiple
ip's which are routed internally, you need proxyarp on that
interface
L238[17:23:33]
<Spider
EveryOS> Man, my emulator's font looks awful
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L240[17:24:40] <Inari> Nep
L241[17:25:10] <Inari> Amanda: I'm very
attached to it, okay. I've had it for age
L243[17:25:34]
<Michiyo>
>lucsoft: are you required to use VMs?
L244[17:25:34]
<Michiyo>
Did you tri…
L245[17:25:34]
<Michiyo>
Yes, VMs are required.
L246[17:26:26]
<Michiyo>
Vampyre, OVH VPS running... Ubuntu IIRC VPN Software is Softether
on both sides
L247[17:27:03]
<Michiyo>
Not running any kind of router, just a VPS with a VPN server, and a
server with a VPN Client
L248[17:27:11]
<Spider
EveryOS> Hey Inari
L249[17:28:50] <Inari> ohi
L250[17:29:07]
<Spider
EveryOS> And what are you doing?
L251[17:29:26] <Vampyre> is there 1 link
between VM's and VPN server, and trowing everything over
that?
L252[17:29:54] <Vampyre> or do you bridge
them all over 1 link?
L253[17:30:23]
<Michiyo>
the physical proxmox server is running the VPN client, and all of
the VMs talk over that single link to the VPN server.
L254[17:31:09]
<Michiyo>
At the moment I have 2 working machines, one linux container, and
one windows VM, they both work at the same time, both using an OVH
public IP over the VPN
L256[17:32:54] <Vampyre> so, can arp be a
possible issue? dunno at what layer you bridge exactly and how
softether handles that
L257[17:33:09] <Vampyre> do you get
propper arp traffic on the link with tcpdump?
L258[17:33:09]
<Michiyo>
Supposedly it's bridging @ layer 2
L259[17:33:38] <Vampyre> yah, then arp is
an issue possible
L260[17:34:03] <Vampyre> so, do the
working vm's and non working vm's have the right arp tables?
L261[17:34:10] <Vampyre> (cached)
L262[17:34:18]
<Michiyo> I
honestly have no idea.
L263[17:35:09] <Vampyre> tcpdump has an -e
option to catch full ethernet packets with theit mac address and
arp -a should give the arp table on both linux and windows
L264[17:35:12]
<Michiyo>
Whelp... after a fucking reboot the windows machine no longer
works, so.... yeah something is fucked.
L265[17:35:28] <Vampyre> also, you can
force arptable updates with arpping
L266[17:36:04] <Vampyre> (and set static
arp addresses with arp, that's what I do in a kinda similair setup
with some HA added)
L267[17:36:31]
<Michiyo>
the now broken windows machine
L269[17:37:10] <Vampyre> I suppose 50.1 is
the router?
L270[17:37:40] <Vampyre> do you have a
linux non working one? you can then use arpping to try and ping the
router
L271[17:37:46]
<Michiyo>
50.1 is my local router, this machine has 2 vnics, one for LAN with
no gateway set so I can access shares
L272[17:38:20]
<Michiyo>
SADLY the nonworking linux machine doesn't have arp.
L273[17:38:22] <Vampyre> oh, right,
completely missed the 2nd one, sorry ;-)
L274[17:39:00] <Vampyre> it's somewhere in
proc too, 1 sec
L275[17:39:35] <Vampyre> /proc/net/arp but
it's a bit more cryptic
L276[17:40:18]
<Michiyo>
IP address HW type Flags HW address Mask Device
L277[17:40:18]
<Michiyo>
51.222.24.1 0x1 0x2 da:a1:1f:c3:8d:cf * eth0
L278[17:40:35]
<Michiyo>
working linux machine is
L279[17:40:35]
<Michiyo>
arp -a
L280[17:40:35]
<Michiyo> ?
(51.222.24.1) at da:a1:1f:c3:8d:cf [ether] on eth0
L281[17:40:52]
<Michiyo>
/proc/net/arp
L282[17:40:52]
<Michiyo>
IP address HW type Flags HW address Mask Device
L283[17:40:52]
<Michiyo>
51.222.24.1 0x1 0x2 da:a1:1f:c3:8d:cf * eth0
L284[17:40:59] <Vampyre> ok, and on the
vpn side? do both show up in the arp table there?
L285[17:42:49] <Vampyre> also, the real
51.222.24.1 is on your VPS network right? the VPS arp table will
have a different one for it
L286[17:43:15]
<Michiyo>
ubuntu@vps-9e78d8ca:~$ cat /proc/net/arp
L287[17:43:16]
<Michiyo>
IP address HW type Flags HW address Mask Device
L288[17:43:16]
<Michiyo>
51.222.24.1 0x1 0x2 da:a1:1f:c3:8d:cf * ens3
L289[17:43:22] <Vampyre> (which might be
the problem, and why you need proxyarp)
L290[17:43:26]
<Michiyo>
51.222.24.1 is the gateway @ OVH
L291[17:44:22] <Vampyre> ok, I'm
confused
L292[17:44:33] <Vampyre> so, 51.222.24.1
is the router
L293[17:44:48] <Vampyre> but ip's are
51.222.228.239
L294[17:44:57]
<Michiyo>
Yep, welcome to OVH.
L295[17:45:08]
<Michiyo>
their IPv6 will REALLY confuse you :D
L296[17:45:21] <Vampyre> oh joy....
L297[17:45:32] <Vampyre> ok, so, they are
not even in the same routable subnet?
L298[17:46:43]
<Michiyo> I
have an IP `144.217.191.164` whos gateway is `51.79.17.254`
lmao
L299[17:47:04] <Vampyre> wt....
okey....
L300[17:47:05]
<Michiyo>
that's on my current OVH Dedi, which is what I'm wanting to drop
lol
L301[17:47:21] <Vampyre> ok, so how do you
configure the ip's now?
L302[17:47:56] <Vampyre> cause a notmal
network stack will have a real hard time finding a router outside
it's subnet
L303[17:48:32] <Vampyre> can be done, but
only with static arps
L305[17:49:50]
<Michiyo>
arp -a on the same machine
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L308[17:51:57]
<Michiyo>
OVH's network is a damn mess.
L309[17:52:01] <Vampyre> and now we have
17.* too.... really? ;-)
L310[17:52:17] <Vampyre> I am completely
confused, sorry :-p
L311[17:52:24]
<Michiyo>
Mind you those are all on a 100% separate server, just an example
of how OVH's routing works
L312[17:53:22]
<Michiyo>
"works"
L313[17:54:03] <Hawk777> I’ve heard it can
work if multiple subnets share a physical broadcast domain (e.g.
multiple subnets in a single Ethernet segment). Then you
technically *can* ARP someone outside your own subnet, and while
I’ve never seen it myself, from what I heard, most OSes are OK with
it.
L314[17:54:12] <Vampyre> ok, so you have
machines, with ip's in the 228.* range, talking to a router in
24.1, which somehow end up actually being 17.* addresses?
L315[17:54:36] <Vampyre> or are the 228.*
the real external ip's?
L316[17:54:55] <Amanda> Inari: okay, but
it's shape shifting and resizing of the text area is very confusing
and dream-like
L317[17:55:09] <Inari> Amanda: it takes a
bit to get used to, yeah
L318[17:55:46]
<Michiyo>
the 17.254 is the gateway on my dedicated server, it's not involved
in this at all, like I said was just showing how OVH's routing
"works". I have for example an IP Address
`51.222.186.253` which has a gateway of `51.222.24.1`
L319[17:56:02] <Vampyre> Hawk777, yah, you
can. if you know the mac address of someone on your subnet, you can
send whatever you want to them directly, spoofing it coming from
any ip
L320[17:56:06]
<Michiyo>
VPN server is @ `51.222.24.85`
L321[17:57:27]
<Michiyo> I
also have `51.222.186.253` with the same gateway
`51.222.24.1`
L322[17:58:18] <Vampyre> so, vm (186.253)
talks in some way to 24.1, proxmox trhows that to the vpn server
and the vpn server acts to 24.1 as being 186.253?
L323[17:59:03]
<Michiyo>
for the last IP I meant to paste `51.222.228.238` as a 2nd example
IP.. not the same one again :P
L324[18:00:44]
<Michiyo>
Yes, Proxmox has a VPN client, bridged from vmbr1 to ethvpn0 which
then tosses traffic over the VPN to the VPS
L325[18:01:16]
<Michiyo>
work meeting AFK
L326[18:01:57] <Vampyre> can you paste an
ifconfig of the working linux machine? am quite interested to see
how they would talk to eachother in the first place now
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L329[18:02:55] <Vampyre> ah
L330[18:03:20] <Vampyre> hold a sec, let
me see if I can wrap my head around this
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L332[18:07:20] <Vampyre> hmz
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L334[18:09:51] <Vampyre> ok, Michiyo, as I
decipher it, the working machine does get the router ip through
arp, which it logically can only get from over the bridge from the
VPN server
L335[18:10:47] <Vampyre> so, do you see
the full arp-request/arp reply combo in tcpdump when rebooting the
vm's which don't work?
L336[18:11:22] <Vampyre> (tcpdump has arp
filtering btw)
L337[18:14:31]
<Michiyo>
run tcpdump on the VPN server?
L338[18:14:50] <Vampyre> yah, or even
better, both sides of the bridge
L339[18:15:02] <Vampyre> maybe the bridge
itself does funky things
L340[18:15:52]
<Michiyo>
Oh man, that is so much ARP traffic...
L341[18:16:12] <Vampyre> should be not
much at all
L343[18:16:39]
<Michiyo>
you can see how quickly those are going by the timestamps
L344[18:16:53]
<Forecaster> That's a lot of css
traffic
L345[18:17:26] <Vampyre> well, clearly
gateway cannot find someone
L346[18:17:47] <Vampyre> 228 never tells
it where it is?
L347[18:17:54]
<Michiyo>
only thing I ever see different is
L348[18:17:54]
<Michiyo>
18:17:01.701453 ARP, Request who-has gateway tell
ip228.ip-51-222-228.net, length 28
L349[18:17:55]
<Michiyo>
18:17:01.701796 ARP, Reply gateway is-at da:a1:1f:c3:8d:cf (oui
Unknown), length 28
L350[18:17:55]
<Michiyo>
18:17:01.718534 ARP, Request who-has ip239.ip-51-222-228.net tell
_gateway, length 28
L351[18:18:44]
<Michiyo>
And... I now have working ipv4 on the previously broken
container
L352[18:19:08] <Vampyre> that is gateway
telling 228 where it is, so 228 does get it's arp table for
51.222.24.1 updated
L353[18:19:28]
<Michiyo>
inet 51.222.228.229/32 now has internet...
L354[18:19:48] <Vampyre> so, I'm guessing
that if you do a ping 8.8.8.8 on the not working machine, you will
actually see icmp data going from there to the gateway
L355[18:20:20] <Vampyre> just the reply's
get dropped at the vpn caue it doesn't know where 228 is
L356[18:21:03]
<Michiyo>
ok, internet is still broken on the previously working windows VM
still. so let's see
L357[18:21:18] <Vampyre> now why it
doesn't know I don't know yet, but that's my current guestimate
;-)
L358[18:22:01] <Vampyre> tcpdump icmp will
show you just the pings if you want to test that
L359[18:22:58]
<Michiyo>
decent bit of ICMP traffic on the VPS, but when I ping from the
broken VM I don't see anything that matches.
L360[18:23:17] <Vampyre> not even on the
proxmox side?
L361[18:23:24]
<Michiyo>
one sec
L363[18:25:44]
<Michiyo>
so yeah, the VM sends it, proxmox sees it on vmbr1 (the vpn) but
never gets a reply
L365[18:26:11] <Vampyre> and the vpn side
did not have those pings on the bridge?
L366[18:26:29]
<Michiyo>
let me see what the working vm looks like on the VPN side
L368[18:27:08]
<Michiyo>
non working VPN doesn't
L369[18:27:28] <Vampyre> ok
L370[18:27:57]
<Michiyo>
sorry if this conversation looks like ass on the IRC side..
lol
L371[18:28:20] <Vampyre> if you add -e to
tcpdump you can also see the mac addresses it tries to deliver to,
but the fact that gateway keeps asking via arp where the nonworking
machine is, that won't tell you much
L372[18:28:54] <Vampyre> do the ARP
requests show up on the proxmox side of the bridge?
L373[18:29:22] <Vampyre> do they actually
go into the bridge on the VPN side btw?
L374[18:29:46] <Vampyre> (maybe the VPN
side is asking on the wrong interfaces)
L375[18:30:38]
<Michiyo>
proxmox's tcpdump for arp:
L377[18:30:52] <Vampyre> yup, looks
perfect
L378[18:30:53]
<Michiyo>
VPS's
L380[18:31:08] <Vampyre> so it is the
machines itself who fail to respond
L381[18:31:35] <Vampyre> hmz
L382[18:31:42] <Vampyre> maybe a
workaround
L383[18:32:00] <Vampyre> set a arp static
address on the vpn side
L384[18:33:31] <Vampyre> looking up
syntax, 1 sec
L385[18:35:34] <Vampyre> arp -i
<dev_of_bridge> -s 51.222.222.228 <mac:of:vm>
L386[18:35:38] <Vampyre> I think might
work?
L387[18:35:56] <Vampyre> atleast you
should see the ping replys going back on the bridge
L388[18:36:04]
<Michiyo>
would this go on the VPN side, or on Proxmox?
L389[18:36:08] <Vampyre> VPN side
L390[18:36:46] <Vampyre> I butchered the
ip btw, sorry ;-)
L391[18:37:21]
<Michiyo>
ok, so I did `sudo arp -i ens3 -s 51.222.228.239 2E:59:CD:01:4E:66`
on the VPN server
L392[18:37:35]
<Michiyo>
pinging doesn't work, restarting the windows VM just in case
L393[18:38:21] <Vampyre> ok, so if you now
ping from it, do the replies at least show up at bridge on the
proxmox side? (and is the arp flood gone for that ip?)
L394[18:38:58]
<Michiyo> I
just disabled DNS lookups on tcpdump to make it a BIT clearer what
IP it's actually using lol, one moment
L395[18:39:11] <Vampyre> ah, yes, good
idea ;-)
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L397[18:42:20]
<Michiyo>
Ok, still see `18:41:52.148953 da:a1:1f:c3:8d:cf >
ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff, ethertype ARP (0x0806), length 42: Request
who-has 51.222.228.239 tell 51.222.24.1, length 28` (I enabled -e
for giggles) and no reply
L398[18:42:56] <Vampyre> euh
L399[18:43:11] <Vampyre> on the
bridge?
L400[18:43:31]
<Michiyo>
that's at the VPN, I can try on proxmox
L401[18:44:04]
<Michiyo>
on proxmox I see
L403[18:44:30] <Vampyre> ok
L404[18:44:32] <Vampyre> yah
L405[18:44:41] <Vampyre> I'm slowly
getting it I think
L406[18:45:12]
<Michiyo>
oddly the windows VM gets 2 request timed out, and 2 destination
host unreachable when pinging sometimes.
L408[18:46:57]
<Michiyo>
but the icmp never made it over the link
L409[18:47:30]
<Michiyo>
51.222.228.239 keeps asking who has 51.222.24.1
L410[18:48:16] <Vampyre> ok, so
51.222.24.1 is the real OVH gateway, but on the bridge you see
51.222.24.1 with mac da:a1:1f:c3:8d:cf asking the arp request
L411[18:48:34] <Vampyre> da:a1:1f:c3:8d:cf
is I assume the mac address of the bridge on the VPN side?
L412[18:48:48] <Vampyre> and not the real
mac address of the real OVH router?
L413[18:49:32]
<Michiyo>
`fa:16:3e:47:cc:e3` is the mac of ens3 on the VPN i assume
`da:a1:1f:c3:8d:cf` is the actual gateway mac
L414[18:49:59]
<Michiyo>
DAA11FC38DCF / DA-A1-1F-C3-8D-CF
L415[18:49:59]
<Michiyo>
No company is registered as the vendor for mac address prefix
DAA11FC38DCF
L416[18:50:01]
<Michiyo>
nor not....
L417[18:50:20] <Vampyre> well... that is
some kind of arp proxying going on then...
L418[18:50:51] <Vampyre> most routers use
virtual IP's to deliver failover, so can still be
L419[18:51:17] <Vampyre> what does the arp
table of the VPN tell you?
L420[18:51:20]
<Michiyo>
Maybe I should just find a VPS provider that will give me a fuckton
of IPs with SANE networking.
L421[18:51:35] <Vampyre> or is it the mac
of any other interface?
L423[18:51:50] <Vampyre> oh yah
L424[18:51:54]
<Michiyo>
that's arp -a from the VPN VPS
L425[18:52:02] <Vampyre> yah, you have
some arp roxying going on on the bridge
L426[18:52:09] <Vampyre> proxying*
L427[18:53:00] <Vampyre> or maybe
not...
L428[18:53:30] <Vampyre> wait, does the
arp reply actually get out of the network?
L429[18:53:49] <Vampyre> if this is the
real gateway asking, then it clearly doesn't get it's reply
L430[18:53:56] <Vampyre> so, holdon, I got
a fix for that
L431[18:54:25]
<Michiyo>
IDK man, I think I was decent @ networking, this week has taught me
very different.
L432[18:54:30]
<Michiyo> I
thought*
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L434[18:56:04] <Vampyre> you can force
update the router with arpping
L435[18:56:16] <Vampyre> arping -A -c 3 -s
51.222.228.239 -I eth0 255.255.255.255
L436[18:56:34] <Vampyre> if you do
thatone, what does the ping do?
L437[18:56:40] <Vampyre> (on the
VPN)
L438[18:56:48]
<Michiyo>
VPN or Proxmox side? VPN I assume?
L439[18:57:33] <Vampyre> yah, VPN, this
sets the ARP cache of the router to be the mac address of eth0, so
atleast you should get the ping replys on the router
L440[18:57:34]
<Michiyo>
'arping: Weird MAC addr 51.222.228.239'
L441[18:57:46] <Vampyre> oh
L442[18:57:47] <Vampyre> yah
L443[18:57:50] <Vampyre> 1 sec
L444[18:58:14] <Vampyre> oh
L445[18:58:55] <Vampyre> what arping is
that? ;-)
L446[18:59:07] <Vampyre> the iputils
one?
L447[18:59:15]
<Michiyo>
ubuntu@vps-9e78d8ca:~$ arping -v
L448[18:59:15]
<Michiyo>
ARPing 2.21, by Thomas Habets <thomas@habets.se>
L449[18:59:21] <Vampyre> ah
L450[18:59:35] <Vampyre> got a different
one, let me check the man page of that one
L451[18:59:37]
<Michiyo>
swap to iputils?
L452[18:59:40] <Vampyre> nah
L453[19:02:03]
<bad at
vijya> oh god
L454[19:02:06]
<bad at
vijya> firefox got even more ugly
L455[19:06:15]
<Bob> yeah
wtf did they do
L456[19:06:23]
<Bob> i
spend like a good 15 minutse reverting all this shit back i swear
to god
L457[19:08:31] <Vampyre> Michiyo: I think
this might work: arping -UP -c3 -S 51.222.228.239 -s
2e:59:cd:01:4e:66 -i eth0
L458[19:08:42] <Vampyre> on the VPN
L459[19:09:17] <Vampyre> does that change
anyhting to the ARP request flood?
L460[19:09:52]
<Michiyo>
had to swap eth0 to ens3, then I get the arping usage print out,
I'll just swap to iputils arping :P
L461[19:10:08] <Vampyre> lol, ok
L462[19:11:25]
<Michiyo>
ubuntu@vps-9e78d8ca:~$ sudo arping -A -c 3 -s 51.222.228.239 -I
ens3 255.255.255.255
L463[19:11:25]
<Michiyo>
arping: connect: Permission denied
L464[19:11:27]
<Michiyo>
aaaaaaaaaaaaaa
L465[19:12:07] <Vampyre> ah
L466[19:12:12] <Vampyre> no, you need
eth1
L467[19:12:23] <Vampyre> you want to
upgrade the router, that is on eth1
L468[19:12:28] <Vampyre> eth0*
L469[19:12:44]
<Michiyo>
arping: Device eth0 not available.
L470[19:13:07] <Vampyre> euh, what is the
ISP facing interface on the VPN?
L471[19:13:11] <Vampyre> not eth0?
L473[19:13:51] <Vampyre> ah, so... what is
the name of the bridge side of the VPN?
L474[19:13:58] <Vampyre> or is there
none?
L475[19:14:10]
<Michiyo>
ip a reports lo and ens3
L476[19:14:25] <Vampyre> ah...
L477[19:14:36]
<Michiyo> I
don't think softether actually creates an interface on the server
side
L478[19:14:45] <Vampyre> so softether is
completely usermode?
L479[19:14:54] <Vampyre> hmz, well...
ok...
L480[19:15:08]
<Michiyo>
¯\(ツ)/¯
L481[19:15:46] <Vampyre> still all viable
and normal, just surprising ;-)
L482[19:16:48] <Vampyre> so, softether is
just throwing it's packets on ens3 and everything it receives there
and is for the VM's, it will forward
L483[19:17:41] <Vampyre> however, it
somehow fails with the arp replies, so the router doesn't know
which mac to send the packets to
L484[19:17:50]
<Michiyo>
sounds about right. If there is better software for this I'm all
for it. I'm just familiar with softether..
L485[19:18:41] <Vampyre> well, should work
with softether
L486[19:19:52] <Vampyre> the arpping
should still work, if you can update the router to know that the
vm's ip's are infact reachable on the mac address of ens3
L487[19:19:57]
<Ocawesome101> @Spider EveryOS parse OC’s
hexfont and use that
L488[19:20:23] <Vampyre> actually
L489[19:20:30] <Vampyre> maybe another way
is possible, 1 sec
L490[19:22:16] <Vampyre> arp -s
51.222.228.239 -i ens3 -D ens3 pub
L491[19:22:27] <Vampyre> if the old arp
static entry you set earlier is still there, probably remove it
first
L492[19:22:50] <Vampyre> but that arp
should instruct the kernel to do the same arpping reply
L493[19:23:39] <Vampyre> another option,
doing the arping from the vm's, but that won't work from
windows
L494[19:24:20]
<Michiyo>
trying to remove the old entry tells me the network is
unreachable
L495[19:24:21]
<Michiyo>
lol
L496[19:25:32] <Vampyre> is it still
active? (in the arp table?)
L498[19:28:11] <Vampyre> so, "arp -i
ens3 -d -s 51.222.228.239 2E:59:CD:01:4E:66" gives network
unreachable?
L499[19:28:37]
<Michiyo>
..... no lol
L500[19:28:43] <Vampyre> ok ;-)
L501[19:28:50]
<Michiyo> I
was trying `sudo arp --delete 51.222.228.239` lol :/
L502[19:29:18]
<Michiyo>
Oh, wait... arp -a still shows it
L503[19:29:35] <Vampyre> with PERM
flag?
L505[19:30:41] <Vampyre> hmz
L506[19:30:48] <Vampyre> that's...
weird?
L507[19:32:22] <Vampyre> yah, -d should
remove it, does for me at least
L508[19:32:50] <Vampyre> hmz
L509[19:33:09] <Vampyre> we might just
need pub
L510[19:33:39] <Vampyre> arp -i ens3 -s
51.222.228.239 2E:59:CD:01:4E:66 pub
L511[19:34:07] <Vampyre> does that add the
PUB to the PERM?
L512[19:34:32]
<Michiyo>
nope
L513[19:34:50] <Vampyre> then... -d should
work
L514[19:36:53] <Vampyre> can you else try
it with the other non working one?
L515[19:37:23] <Vampyre> all I can say for
certain at this point though is that it's likely some arp problem,
but am not entirely sure how myself
L516[19:37:27]
<Michiyo>
only non working I have currently is windows. I can try to spin up
another linux container
L517[19:38:13]
<bad at
vijya> i found my issue
L518[19:38:32]
<bad at
vijya> fucking
L519[19:38:35]
<bad at
vijya> DoS protection
L520[19:38:44]
<bad at
vijya> thought my VM was DoSing my network
L521[19:38:48]
<bad at
vijya> under a local IP
L522[19:38:58]
<bad at
vijya> i only discovered this after the same thing happened to
my desktop
L523[19:40:28]
<Vaur>
%tonkout
L524[19:40:29] <MichiBot> Zounderkite!
Vaur! You beat your own previous record of 6 hours, 38 minutes and
59 seconds (By 1 hour, 13 minutes and 40 seconds)! I hope you're
happy!
L525[19:40:30] <MichiBot> Vaur has tonked
out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.007 tonk points! plus 0.012
bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 1.46129255,
Position #1
L526[19:40:53]
<Michiyo>
spinning up linux container #3 with `51.222.228.234`
L527[19:43:01]
<Michiyo>
Ok, brand new linux container, no network
L528[19:43:20] <Vampyre> ok, and an arp
storm for that ip from the router again?
L530[19:43:47] <Vampyre> does that
container have arping?
L531[19:44:12]
<Michiyo>
Sadly no, the template I have doesn't seem to ship with
iputils-arping
L532[19:44:21] <Vampyre> ok
L533[19:44:32]
<Spider
EveryOS> >/bin/ocawesome --101: <@509348730156220427>
parse OC’s hexfont and us…
L535[19:45:08] <Vampyre> so what does 'arp
-i ens3 -s 51.222.228.234 <vm:mac> pub' do? if
anything?
L536[19:45:13]
<Spider
EveryOS> Hexfont might be hard
L537[19:45:13]
<Spider
EveryOS> Since I have to generate my own texture and loading an
existing one was hard enough:/
L538[19:45:52]
<Spider
EveryOS> (Does IRC bridge show replies? If not then that's out
of context xD)
L539[19:46:53]
<Michiyo>
It does, sorta... lol
L540[19:47:14]
<Michiyo>
ok, so I'm still seeing lots of `
L541[19:47:14]
<Michiyo>
19:46:06.516697 da:a1:1f:c3:8d:cf > ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff, ethertype
ARP (0x0806), length 42: Request who-has 51.222.228.234 tell
51.222.24.1, length 28` on the VPN server, never seeing a
response
L542[19:47:35] <Vampyre> also on
ens3?
L543[19:47:48] <Vampyre> or is this on
ens3?
L544[19:48:02]
<Michiyo>
I'm running ` sudo tcpdump -i ens3 -n arp or icmp -e` on the VPN
server
L545[19:48:23] <Vampyre> ok, so ens3 is
still not replying to them
L546[19:48:55]
<Michiyo>
proxmox is replying with `
L547[19:48:56]
<Michiyo>
12:48:37.782066 9a:24:72:1a:21:e8 > da:a1:1f:c3:8d:cf, ethertype
ARP (0x0806), length 42: Reply 51.222.228.234 is-at
9a:24:72:1a:21:e8, length 28`
L548[19:49:05] <Vampyre> echo 1 >
/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_nonlocal_bind
L549[19:49:05] <Vampyre> echo 1 >
/proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/eth0/arp_filter
L550[19:49:12] <Vampyre> try those
maybe?
L551[19:49:23] <Vampyre> oh, ens3 for the
2nd
L552[19:50:08]
<Michiyo>
sudo echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ipnonlocalbind
L553[19:50:08]
<Michiyo>
-bash: /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ipnonlocalbind: Permission denied
L554[19:50:14]
<Michiyo>
I'm assuming a limitation of the VPS.
L555[19:50:16] <Vampyre> oh
L556[19:50:21] <Vampyre> well...
L557[19:50:32] <Vampyre> hmz
L558[19:51:18]
<Michiyo>
`sudo bash -c 'echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward'`
worked
L559[19:51:49] <Vampyre> that's just for
the ip forwarding part, I'm not even sure you're using that with
softether
L560[19:52:27] <Vampyre> hmz, does
softether not have a tap option?
L561[19:52:41] <Vampyre> then you could
maybe just bridge ens0 with that tap
L562[19:53:08] <Vampyre> but that's
probably a bit more invasive then arp proxy or arping
L563[19:53:20]
<Michiyo> I
BELIEVE that is how the bridge I have setup is working
L564[19:53:25]
<Michiyo>
I'm not going to swear though
L566[19:53:49] <Vampyre> well, does brctl
show active bridges? cause if you only have ens3, I think now
L567[19:54:02] <Vampyre> s/now/not
L568[19:54:03] <MichiBot> <Vampyre>
well, does brctl show active bridges? cause if you only have ens3,
I think not
L569[19:54:36]
<Michiyo>
`brctl show` returns nothing...
L570[19:54:58] <Vampyre> then softeth is
using it's own internal type of bridge
L571[19:55:27] <Vampyre> 3.6.9 Using Tap
Devices
L572[19:55:33] <Vampyre> it can use
tap's
L573[19:56:56]
<Michiyo>
oh hmm.. `BridgeCreate [hubname] [/DEVICE:device_name]
[/TAP:yes|no]`
L574[19:57:10] <Vampyre> sounds good
;-)
L575[20:00:09]
<Michiyo> I
used the UI to make the bridge, I don't think it even gives me the
option for TAP... let me configm
L576[20:00:11]
<Michiyo>
confirm too
L577[20:00:34]
<Michiyo>
Oh... fucking hell it did
L578[20:00:35]
<Michiyo>
lmao
L579[20:01:20]
<Michiyo>
ok Vampyre `3: taptap0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWERUP> mtu
1500 qdisc fq_codel state UNKNOWN group default qlen 1000`
L580[20:01:42]
<bad at
vijya> >Haruspex: yeah wtf did they do
L581[20:01:43]
<bad at
vijya> i just want australis back
L582[20:03:06]
<Michiyo>
This has made everything angry :P
L583[20:03:07]
<Michiyo>
`From 51.222.228.228 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable`
L584[20:03:14]
<bad at
vijya> oh, i feel this
L585[20:03:31] <Vampyre> ok, brctl setup
is dangerous remotely, so I hope you have some console access too
right?
L586[20:03:51]
<Michiyo>
hahahahaaaaaaaaaaa............
L587[20:03:52]
<Michiyo>
no
L588[20:03:56] <Vampyre> or did it
automatically bridge it already?
L589[20:04:01]
<Michiyo> I
can reinstall easily!
L590[20:04:09] <Vampyre> oh
L591[20:04:16]
<Michiyo>
brctl show is still empty
L592[20:05:24] <Vampyre> ok, well, the
idea is brctl addbr br0 ; ifconfig br0 <public ip> ; brctl
addif ens3 br0 ; brctl addif tap br0
L594[20:06:15] <Vampyre> but if you don't
have some console access, this will probably kill your
network
L595[20:06:48] <Vampyre> hmz
L596[20:06:52]
<Michiyo>
can't add br0 to bridge ens3: Operation not supported
L597[20:06:52]
<Michiyo>
can't add br0 to bridge tap_tap0: Operation not supported
L598[20:06:59]
<Michiyo>
still have connectivity, for now
L600[20:07:16] <Vampyre> oh, other way
around maybe
L601[20:07:24]
<Kleadron>
>bad at vijya: <@!202281082047954954> Izaya: hahaha
L602[20:07:25]
<Kleadron>
firefox kinda lookin like chrome 👀
L603[20:07:31] <Vampyre> brctl addif br0
tap0
L604[20:07:50] <Vampyre> shat should get
tap0 to show bound in brctl show
L605[20:08:02]
<Michiyo>
ok, no error
L606[20:08:05] <Vampyre> then the
dangerous one is brctl addif br0 ens3
L608[20:08:11]
<Michiyo>
still have connectivity
L609[20:08:23] <Vampyre> perfect
L610[20:08:39]
<Michiyo>
`brctl addif br0 ens3` also ran with no issue
L611[20:08:42]
<Michiyo>
still connected
L612[20:08:48] <Vampyre> so, tcpdump -i
br0 should then give you all the bridge traffic as before
L613[20:09:09]
<Michiyo>
well...
L614[20:09:28]
<Michiyo> I
DID still have connection
L615[20:09:31]
<Michiyo>
it's dead.
L616[20:09:36] <Vampyre> ouch
L617[20:09:56] <Vampyre> well, it's
rebootable atleast, right? ;-)
L618[20:10:20]
<Michiyo>
can go find out lol
L619[20:10:31] <Vampyre> maybe wait 2
minutes though
L620[20:10:49] <Vampyre> the internal
bridge code has some learning time
L621[20:11:42] <Vampyre> is 51.222.228.226
also a vm btw?
L622[20:11:47] <Vampyre> cause that is
pingable
L623[20:12:12]
<Michiyo>
it isn't one of mine
L624[20:12:17] <Vampyre> ah, ok
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L627[20:14:06]
<Michiyo>
OH
L628[20:14:11]
<Michiyo>
hey I DO have a KVM access
L629[20:14:13]
<Michiyo>
neat OVH
L630[20:14:35] <Vampyre> ah, perfect
L631[20:15:05] <Vampyre> is the br0
interface still up?
L632[20:15:18]
<Michiyo>
bro is up
L633[20:15:21]
<Michiyo>
br0*
L634[20:15:42] <Vampyre> and brctl show
shows both tap and ens3 bound to it?
L635[20:15:48] <Vampyre> (and both are
up?)
L637[20:16:36] <Vampyre> oh
L638[20:16:37] <Vampyre> lol
L639[20:17:11] <Vampyre> my fault
L640[20:17:25] <Vampyre> ifconfig br0
<public ip> should also include the network mask
L641[20:17:55] <Vampyre> and likely you
need to do a "route add default gw <gw ip> dev
br0"
L642[20:18:55]
<Michiyo>
ok, did the first, 2nd returns network is unreachable
L643[20:19:33] <Vampyre> what does
ifconfig br0 say now?
L644[20:19:37] <Vampyre> (and route)
L646[20:23:01] <Vampyre> ah, yes, they
were not in the same subnet
L647[20:23:05] <Vampyre> euhm
L648[20:23:21] <Vampyre> how does ubuntu
configure ens3? can you check that?
L649[20:25:19]
<Michiyo>
not 100% sure, I don't know netplan well.... 50-cloud-init shows...
dhcp4: true however
L650[20:26:23] <Vampyre> oh
L651[20:26:25] <Vampyre> great
L652[20:26:51] <Vampyre> ok, let me figure
out how to set a default route with a /32 subnet mask ;-)
L653[20:27:04]
<Michiyo>
thanks.. >_<
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L657[20:35:23]
<ThePiGuy24> that image is overloadingly
american
L658[20:36:18] <Vampyre> Michiyo: ip route
add 51.222.24.1 dev br0
L659[20:36:37] <Vampyre> does that
work?
L660[20:36:55]
<Michiyo>
it didn't error, still can't ping in or out though
L661[20:37:21] <Vampyre> ok, after that,
"ip route add default via 51.222.24.1"
L662[20:37:43] <Vampyre> oh, wait, the
routes of ens3 are still set
L663[20:37:44]
<Michiyo>
and up
L664[20:37:50] <Vampyre> oh
L665[20:37:55] <Vampyre> heh, ok, nm then
;-)
L666[20:38:02]
<Michiyo>
instantly started replying to pings
L667[20:38:34] <Vampyre> ok, then I guess
the softether tunnel needs to be brought back up, then it might
work? hopefully?
L668[20:40:51]
<Michiyo>
doesn't look like it, do I need to do anything with the old arp
stuff we did?
L669[20:41:15] <Vampyre> oh, maybe delete
them yah
L670[20:41:48] <Vampyre> but using any
other ip should now atleast push the arp request/reply properly to
the network
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L672[20:42:13] <Vampyre> hmz, I just
thought of something else which might be an issue...
L673[20:42:23]
<Michiyo>
ok annoyingly the arp cache isn't clearing... will a reboot clear
it?
L674[20:42:39] <Vampyre> yup
L675[20:43:06]
<Michiyo>
ok, kicking it in the face
L676[20:43:09] <Vampyre> but also, the
router might actually not accept different mac addresses on the
link for your ip's
L677[20:43:36]
<bad at
vijya> i found what i need for my car
L679[20:45:59] <Vampyre> Michiyo, when
it's back up, let's make sure the arp requests and replies are now
atleast on the br0 interface
L680[20:46:27] <Vampyre> if they also go
out ens0 then, then maybe the router is just not accepting
them
L681[20:46:32] <Vampyre> ens3*
L682[20:47:25]
<Michiyo>
SO... after reboot no br0... no tap....
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L684[20:47:47]
<Michiyo>
8sigh*
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L686[20:49:40]
<Michiyo>
Hmm I also can't signin to the vpn now, something is
fucked...
L688[20:50:15] <Vampyre> I think that
should setup the bridge (in /etc/interfaces)
L689[20:50:40] <Vampyre> oh
L690[20:50:41] <Vampyre> no
L691[20:50:42] <Vampyre> netplan
L692[20:50:46]
<Michiyo>
yeah
L693[20:50:53] <Vampyre> ahh, however
ubuntu does it ;-)
L694[20:51:06]
<Michiyo>
Ok, the VPN/tap being broken was my own fault, now to fix the
bridge
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L697[20:54:41]
<Michiyo>
This file is generated from information provided by the datasource.
Changes
L698[20:54:41]
<Michiyo> #
to it will not persist across an instance reboot
L699[20:54:42]
<Michiyo>
ffs
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L701[20:55:25]
<Michiyo>
ah, right, gotta disable a thing
L702[20:59:11]
<Michiyo>
lol.... netplan try isn't supposed to APPLY anything but I no
longer have connectivity lmao
L703[21:00:24]
<Michiyo>
ok, re-added routes
L704[21:01:43]
<Michiyo>
Ok, so... nothing
L705[21:01:44]
<Michiyo>
root@vps-9e78d8ca:~# arp -a
L706[21:01:45]
<Michiyo>
_gateway (51.222.24.1) at 86:c8:e3:b2:3a:8c [ether] on br0
L707[21:02:59] <Vampyre> that's a
different mac then you had before
L708[21:03:19] <Vampyre> where did that
one came from?
L709[21:03:19]
<Michiyo>
lol ¯\(ツ)/¯
L710[21:03:24]
<Michiyo>
OVH?
L711[21:03:34] <Vampyre> oh vey,
really......
L712[21:03:45] <Vampyre> very....
consistant ;-)
L713[21:03:51] <Vampyre> but no connection
at all now?
L714[21:04:17]
<Michiyo>
correct, the previously working containers no longer work
L715[21:04:22] <Vampyre> or is this the
mac of the new br0?
L716[21:04:23]
<Michiyo>
also...
L718[21:04:55]
<Michiyo>
fa:16:3e:47:cc:e3 is the MAC of br0
L719[21:05:00] <Vampyre> is tap0 part of
br0 yet?
L720[21:05:14]
<Michiyo>
Oh.. fmfl
L721[21:09:39]
<Michiyo>
Ok, so I've broken networking again, and I'm out of time to play
with this for now
L722[21:10:06] <Vampyre> heh, ah too
bad
L723[21:10:35] <Vampyre> you know where to
find me, I'm kinda curious now why things didn't work as they are
supposed to
L724[21:10:43]
<Michiyo>
Me too.
L725[21:11:18]
<Michiyo>
Thanks for the help
L726[21:11:26] <Vampyre> np :-)
L727[21:11:37]
<Michiyo>
It's appreciated even if we didn't get it working
L728[21:12:03] *
Vampyre likes techy puzzles ;-)
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L730[21:20:29]
<Forecaster> but what about the
100%collectemall360noscope achievement?!
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L734[21:47:43] <CompanionCube> freenode
ban of the day: 'Mode #help [+b *!*@172.58.*] by taw'
L735[21:50:20]
<Forecaster> %tonk
L736[21:50:21] <MichiBot> Yay!
Forecaster! You beat Vaur's previous record of <0 (By 2 hours,
9 minutes and 51 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L737[21:50:22] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new
record is 2 hours, 9 minutes and 51 seconds! Forecaster also gained
0.00216 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #3. Need
0.1524403 more points to pass CompanionCube!
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L739[22:08:11] <Inari> CompanionCube:
Whats with freenode anyway?
L740[22:08:28] <CompanionCube> Inari: much
drama, very big, many lulz
L741[22:08:36] <Inari> I see
L742[22:08:40] <Inari> hahen't really been
following it
L743[22:09:06] <t20kdc> as far as I can
tell it mostly amounts to "freenode is dead, long live
~~freenode~~ libera.chat" so far
L744[22:09:15] <CompanionCube> there's
articles about it on theregister/arstechnica
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L746[22:11:23] <Inari> Not good PR for
that particular VPN company
L748[22:22:32] <Inari> I never trust
acquistions
L749[22:22:46] *
Amanda aquires Inari
L750[22:22:51] <Inari> D:
L751[22:22:52] <Inari> Rude
L752[22:22:55] <Inari> %splash
Amanda
L753[22:22:56] <MichiBot> You fling a
rather jumbonium potion (New!) that splashes onto Amanda. Amanda
turns into spaghetti until they have A Ruby potion.
L754[22:23:04] <dequbed> Amanda: Wouldn't
that one be a hostile takeover though? :P
L755[22:23:11] *
Inari starts chewing on Amanda
L756[22:23:14] <Amanda> D:
L757[22:23:19] <Amanda> %stab Inari
L758[22:23:21] <MichiBot> Amanda is
trying to stab Inari! They have 1 minute if they want to attempt
to %defend against it!
L759[22:23:24] <Inari> oh no
L760[22:23:27] <dequbed> Inari: I don't
either, I just don't really care that much either. Haven't used SO
in years
L761[22:23:28] <Inari> I'm being stabbed
by spaghetti
L762[22:23:39] <Inari> dequbed: What else
do you use?
L763[22:23:42] <Inari> %dodge
L764[22:23:42] <MichiBot> Inari failed to
dodge Amanda wielding the Sword of Protection. With a 10 vs 12
Inari takes the full 1 damage.
L765[22:23:46] <Inari> smh
L766[22:23:47] <dequbed> Inari: For
what?
L767[22:24:09] <Inari> dequbed: Random
questions you google, mostly programming stuff
L768[22:24:25] <dequbed> Inari: Not really
a thing I do
L769[22:24:30] <Inari> I see
L770[22:24:41] <Inari> no coding?
L771[22:24:47] <dequbed> No I do loads of
coding
L772[22:25:00] <Inari> Weird then that
you'd never google something
L773[22:25:02] <dequbed> I just don't end
up asking google "how do I do X in Y"
L774[22:25:27] <dequbed> I have relevant
docs open all the time, don't get me wrong. They just never end up
being SO
L775[22:25:35] <Inari> Dunno,
documentation is sometimes sparse or doesn't quite work right, so
you chuck the function name into googl eand find someone who had
the same issue
L776[22:26:23] <dequbed> I get why people
use SO. I just apparently really don't.
L777[22:26:41] <Inari> I see
L778[22:26:50] <dequbed> If the
documentation for code foo is bad I tend to read the code and then
write documentation ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L779[22:29:37] <dequbed> Inari: Also it
turns out questions like "L3 cache is too slow, how fix?"
and "I need to make my runtime scale horizontally across YES
numa cores" aren't answered that well by SO ^^'
L780[22:30:36] <Inari> Haha, right
L782[22:42:24] <Amanda> %splash Inari's
pillow with mutable blue potion
L783[22:42:25] <MichiBot> You fling a
mutable blue potion (New!) that splashes onto Inari's. Inari's
turns into a boneboo unicorn girl for 36 minutes.
L784[22:43:31] <t20kdc> dequbed: isn't the
answer to "L3 cache too slow" "use less
L2"?
L785[22:45:05]
<Deltam> is
it technically possible to become nearly unkillable with certain
nanobots effects?
L786[22:52:13] <dequbed> t20kdc: No
L787[22:58:08] <Amanda> The answer is
using magic runes
L788[22:58:33]
<Ocawesome101> dequbed: that's proSUS to
you
L789[22:59:11] <dequbed> %stab
@Ocawesome101
L790[22:59:12] <MichiBot> dequbed is
trying to stab @Ocawesome101! They have 1 minute if they want to
attempt to %defend against it!
L791[22:59:19]
<Ocawesome101> %dodge
L792[22:59:19] <MichiBot> Ocawesome101
successfully dodged dequbed wielding ≡Silver Hammer≡. With an 18 vs
12 Ocawesome101 avoided all of the damage!
L793[23:03:58] <Amanda> %choose halucinate
or waves
L794[23:03:58] <MichiBot> Amanda:
"waves", now with 30% fewer deaths caused by
negligence!
L795[23:04:08] <Amanda> Hrm. That's still
too many deaths
L796[23:04:17] *
Amanda cuddles Elfi, halcuinates some mroe
L797[23:04:57] <Elfi> That's an
exceptional silver hammer, that would've hurt!
L798[23:08:48] <dequbed> To be fair,
stabbing with a hammer isn't exactly the smartest way of using
it.
L799[23:31:49] ⇦
Quits: Vexatos (~Vexatos@port-92-192-63-219.dynamic.as20676.net)
(Quit: Insert quantum chemistry joke here)