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L1[00:02:59] <stephan48> uhhh.. the new pi is now running a debian arm64 VM via KVM, raspbian with 64bit kernel and a chroot with debian arm64 to supply the qemu runtime. and the frigging thing is not even under any kind of load. performance looks okey so far. need to run some tests on the SSD tomorrow \o/
L2[00:03:05] <stephan48> dequbed: ^
L3[00:03:56] <stephan48> and ofcourse there was no docu... i really need my own blog. it even runs via libvirt now
L4[00:05:41] <Em​mi> %tonk
L5[00:05:42] <MichiBot> Wow! Em​mi! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of <0 (By 54 minutes and 2 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L6[00:05:43] <MichiBot> Emmi's new record is 54 minutes and 2 seconds! Emmi also gained 0.0009 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #12 => #11. (Overtook Michiyo) Need 0.00188 more points to pass Sap​hire!
L7[00:12:31] <Kristo​pher38> >i develo​p things: *that's too easy*
L8[00:12:32] <Kristo​pher38> how about a lua REPL but you have to parse the source and interpret the bytecode yourself :^)
L9[00:12:41] <i_develo​p_things> nnnnnnnno
L10[00:21:40] <stephan48> ;D
L11[00:26:32] <CompanionCube> https://engineering.virginia.edu/news/2021/04/defenseless
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L13[00:39:55] <Amanda> Ariri: https://i.imgur.com/HKNPPP5.jpg
L14[00:40:36] <Ariri> That is sinful... look at that cable management >.>
L15[00:47:58] <CompanionCube> where does the one on the left go
L16[00:49:31] <Ariri> Along the leg, I guess
L17[00:54:09] <Ariri> !setmyavatar https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/335186179521642498/ce7534beb617fe1ff2193889323b2031.png?size=4096
L18[01:01:33] <bad at​ vijya> huh
L19[01:01:39] <bad at​ vijya> torque 3d 4.0 is looking comfy as hell
L20[01:07:54] <bad at​ vijya> [x] nice https://tinyurl.com/yzm3y8uq
L21[01:08:53] <i_develo​p_things> ponk
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L23[01:33:35] <ThePi​Guy24> very easy on the eyes
L24[01:37:42] <bad at​ vijya> probably a texture failed to load
L25[01:37:43] <bad at​ vijya> regardless
L26[01:38:45] <Amanda> vijya: Oh~ Endless Pink Void released a new entry in the series!?
L27[01:38:47] <Va​ur> %tonk
L28[01:38:49] <MichiBot> Awesome! Va​ur! You beat Em​mi's previous record of 54 minutes and 2 seconds (By 39 minutes and 5 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L29[01:38:50] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 1 hour, 33 minutes and 7 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.00065 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need 0.05428845 more points to pass Compan​ionCube!
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L36[03:31:13] <i_develo​p_things> Eyyy
L37[03:31:28] <i_develo​p_things> Repasted GPU and I didn’t break anything
L38[03:31:48] <i_develo​p_things> And apparently idle temps are like 15-20C lower?!
L39[03:32:06] <Izaya> thermal paste is quite effective
L40[03:32:28] <Izaya> hmm, my 580 isn't really old enough to need re-pasting
L41[03:32:43] <Izaya> plus it never gets over 65° with this fan curve as long as I'm okay with WHIRRRRRR
L42[03:34:34] <i_develo​p_things> My 560 was crashing under heavy load and idling around 40C (iirc) so I figured it was worth a shot
L43[03:34:54] <i_develo​p_things> Also I saw a mention of it on the Arch forums
L44[03:35:00] <Izaya> yeah that sounds like a bad time
L45[03:35:23] <Izaya> mine's idling at 40° but it's a 580 so I guess it generates more heat in general?
L46[03:35:35] <Izaya> also it's running 266Mhz above stock sooooo
L47[03:37:35] <Izaya> reposting because lmao https://social.shadowkat.net/media/30307cfaa50db12326afeb40585d614f033433140a882bd15540b5d5ec0dcf36.jpg
L48[03:38:03] <i_develo​p_things> I haven’t touched the config on mine :P
L49[03:38:36] <Izaya> I've also tightened the memory timings so I've got an extra 30GB/s of memory bandwidth or so
L50[03:38:46] <Izaya> which is good because polaris is usually memory bandwidth constrained
L51[03:38:55] <Izaya> or so I've read
L52[03:40:27] <i_develo​p_things> Dang
L53[03:40:44] <i_develo​p_things> How do you do that? Bios settings?
L54[03:40:52] <i_develo​p_things> Or can you do it from Linux?
L55[03:42:39] <Izaya> first you need to enable overclocking with a kernel argument
L56[03:42:48] <Izaya> amdgpu.ppfeaturemask=0xffffffff
L57[03:42:53] <Izaya> then you can adjust the clocks
L58[03:43:19] <Izaya> then there's a tool called amdmemtweak which lets you adjust the memory timings
L59[03:43:30] <i_develo​p_things> Ah thank you
L60[03:43:36] <i_develo​p_things> I’ll look at that tomorrow
L61[03:43:46] <Izaya> amdmemtweak is designed for mining though
L62[03:43:52] <Izaya> rather than playing games
L63[03:43:54] <Izaya> lmao
L64[03:44:09] <Izaya> if I lock my memory to 2150Mhz I can get away with
L65[03:44:12] <Izaya> sudo amdmemtweak --R2W 31 --RC 75 --RRD 5 --RCDRA 26 --RCDR 26 --RCDWA 14 --RCDW 14 --RFC 155 --RP_WRA 55 --RASMACTWR 33 --RASMACTRD 28 --ACTWR 9 --ACTRD 10 --RAS2RAS 101 --RP 24 --WRPLUSRP 30 --REF 80
L66[03:45:05] <Izaya> (that's 150Mhz above stock)
L67[03:45:17] <Izaya> also keep in mind that the power consumption rises much faster than the clock speed
L68[03:45:36] <Izaya> I haven't seen mine go above 130W but YMMV
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L71[03:59:20] <Izaya> ... huh
L72[03:59:43] <Izaya> I'm not sure if it's because I'm using line out rather than the on-board amp but I don't hear my graphics card in my headphones any more
L73[04:01:20] <Izaya> I should write a collectd module to rip stats from amdgpu devices
L74[04:07:55] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L75[04:07:56] <MichiBot> Willikers! Compan​ionCube! You beat Va​ur's previous record of 1 hour, 33 minutes and 7 seconds (By 55 minutes and 59 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L76[04:07:57] <MichiBot> CompanionCube's new record is 2 hours, 29 minutes and 6 seconds! CompanionCube also gained 0.00186 (0.00093 x 2) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.
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L79[05:22:24] <Minecraftku_hei> Hello
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L81[05:43:15] <Izaya> > smell ozone
L82[05:43:20] <Izaya> > nothing has obviously exploded
L83[05:43:24] <Izaya> [concern]
L84[05:52:45] <Izaya> do minecraft saves compress well?
L85[06:13:13] <Ar​iri> in my experience they have, but i've only done low to medium levels of compression
L86[06:20:11] <Amanda> Oops, it's 0200
L87[06:40:33] * Amanda tucks in around Elfi, zzzmews
L88[06:40:37] <Amanda> Night nerds
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L90[07:15:26] <Ar​iri> Izaya: https://tinyurl.com/yzp37l3v
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L92[08:10:37] <Va​ur> %tonk
L93[08:10:37] <MichiBot> Darn it! Va​ur! You beat Compan​ionCube's previous record of 2 hours, 29 minutes and 6 seconds (By 1 hour, 33 minutes and 35 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L94[08:10:38] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 4 hours, 2 minutes and 41 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.00468 (0.00156 x 3) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need 0.05146845 more points to pass Compan​ionCube!
L95[08:38:14] <Va​ur> %sip
L96[08:38:14] <MichiBot> You drink a basic sapphire potion (New!). Vaur is suddenly wearing gloves they don't remember putting on.
L97[09:04:34] <dequbed> stephan48: Context?
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L110[10:35:44] <Inari> Nep
L111[10:36:57] * Inari drags Amanda into the haunted houses
L112[11:07:42] <stephan48> dequbed: none. besides me testing stuff on propriatary platform so i can get my homeautomation in a saner state \o/
L113[11:12:10] <dequbed> stephan48: Home automation? Sane? Sorry, that sounds like an oxymoron.
L114[11:12:32] <stephan48> saner!
L115[11:12:34] <stephan48> ;D
L116[11:13:17] <stephan48> ofcourse its always insane... who the heck programs a wallswitch to do tasks and then forgets how to do these manually when that fails \o/
L117[11:15:30] <dequbed> stephan48: I can give you one level higher on the insanity curve: Making the wallswitch go through cryptographic verification of it, the automation server and the user first. ... which is sorta what a project of mine is doing?
L118[11:17:06] <stephan48> ah... self certification of it and the system not being manipulated? and the user being clever enough to be the correct one?
L119[11:17:56] <stephan48> technically that next component i am building should archive a subset of it
L120[11:18:29] <dequbed> Well, certification if that switch is actually what it claims to be, it validates the server to prevent MitM and the user is authenticated for smartness checks, yes :P
L121[11:19:14] <stephan48> ah does the switch validate itself or the server just checks the switches credentials/parameters?
L122[11:19:55] <stephan48> that actually sounds not too insane. depending on the environment
L123[11:19:55] <dequbed> The switch has cryptographic credentials (i.e. pubkey/privkey pair) and the server checks those.
L124[11:20:00] * stephan48 nods
L125[11:20:04] <stephan48> client certs \o/
L126[11:20:10] <dequbed> Then again the "wall switch" we're toggling are generally three-phase and control heavy machinery that eats arms and the rest of the person for breakfast.
L127[11:20:21] <stephan48> :D
L128[11:20:29] <dequbed> So things going wrong generally produce a lot of paperwork and are RGEs for many people
L129[11:20:43] * stephan48 takes out his smartphone and sets the switch to eat-people mode
L130[11:21:22] <stephan48> RGE?
L131[11:21:29] <dequbed> resume-generating event.
L132[11:21:50] <dequbed> aka "better go looking for a new job" :P
L133[11:22:00] <stephan48> ahhh
L134[11:22:08] <stephan48> nice abbreviation
L135[11:22:14] <stephan48> ;D
L136[11:23:15] <stephan48> yea these kind of things should be properly constructed and authenticated. investing more time upfront in making the system secure usually ends in less problems afterwards
L137[11:24:25] <dequbed> Also less exploded machinery and less body parts and blood to remove from very expensive machines ^^'
L138[11:25:03] <stephan48> main advantage: cleaning is cheaper
L139[11:27:00] <dequbed> Nah, main advantage is that the idiots that would have killed themselves don't and have a chance of becoming not idiots. I'm very cynical at times but I don't want people to die in ernest.
L140[11:27:57] <stephan48> yea. neither do I.
L141[11:28:37] <dequbed> I'd still prefer if people don't look at the 10-ton 300l-oil-per minute that works by *plasma-ifying oil* that requires an entire different machine /just to cool itself down/ and go "I'ma go touch that >:3"
L142[11:29:02] <dequbed> s/minute/minute machine/
L143[11:29:03] <MichiBot> <dequbed> I'd still prefer if people don't look at the 10-ton 300l-oil-per minute machine that works by *plasma-ifying oil* that requires an entire different machine /just to cool itself down/ and go "I'ma go touch that >:3"
L144[11:30:24] <stephan48> sometimes you really wonder about human stupidity
L145[11:30:43] <dequbed> Well to be fair, the plasma arc *does* look pretty :P
L146[11:30:43] <stephan48> what do you do witht oil-plasma?
L147[11:30:48] <stephan48> ;D
L148[11:31:09] <stephan48> yes but even i learned enough in physics that if somethings arcs and is not a rainbow I better not touch it
L149[11:31:11] <dequbed> stephan48: Senkerodieren. Electric discharge machining in english I guess?
L150[11:31:35] <stephan48> because it could eitherhurt just a little bit or fucking kill me outright
L151[11:32:26] <dequbed> My favourite machine is still the 1.5kW death incarnate of infrared laser in the lab. It welds ceramics. :P
L152[11:33:25] <stephan48> i see interesting concept
L153[11:33:43] <dequbed> Yeah, you heard me right. I didn't know you *could* weld ceramics either.
L154[11:34:19] <stephan48> i am still with the electric discharge machining :D
L155[11:34:32] <stephan48> and yea i think its a somewhat accurate term
L156[11:34:45] <stephan48> what the heck? welding ceramics?
L157[11:34:57] <stephan48> i huh.
L158[11:35:26] <stephan48> no i dont even have an inkling on how that could work. hrm, but technically by superheating it and then letting it merge and cool?
L159[11:36:00] <stephan48> you work with interesing projects :D
L160[11:36:22] <dequbed> I mean laserwelding is very much a thing. But the concept of just /pumping more energy into the material/ until you weld ceramics is ... special.
L161[11:37:40] <dequbed> stephan48: Oh gods no. I don't touch that death incarnate of machine. I wanted to make a SLS out of it touch. Would be a fun project.
L162[11:37:53] <dequbed> s/touch\./tough./
L163[11:37:54] <MichiBot> <dequbed> stephan48: Oh gods no. I don't touch that death incarnate of machine. I wanted to make a SLS out of it tough. Would be a fun project.
L164[11:38:30] <stephan48> SLS?
L165[11:38:36] <Izaya> space launch system
L166[11:38:54] <Izaya> pushing spacecraft into orbit with mirrors and lasers
L167[11:38:59] <stephan48> huh
L168[11:39:18] <dequbed> Izaya! Don't confuse people :<
L169[11:39:20] <Izaya> (this may not be the actual meaning, but I've heard this concept before and figured if that's not the idea, it's still fun)
L170[11:39:41] <dequbed> stephan48: No, selective laser sintering. Think 3d printing but with metals ... or ceramics in this case.
L171[11:40:12] <stephan48> ah, heating them up and letting them cool on specific material points?
L172[11:40:34] <dequbed> close enough :P
L173[11:40:41] <stephan48> :P
L174[11:42:16] <stephan48> i think i heard about the concept before but not really my area of interest
L175[11:42:54] <dequbed> What you don't like to play with machines which make you go blind in an instant? huh.
L176[11:42:57] <stephan48> besides if it can do that to metal/ceramics... well you might wanna look into making sure your makerspace does not getting random new holes into walls and peoples
L177[11:43:06] <stephan48> no I have customers for that
L178[11:43:24] <stephan48> who make me blind with stupidity
L179[11:45:41] <dequbed> stephan48: Still, one day .. one day I wanna make this: https://i.imgur.com/L0Rq7Hp.jpeg But like .. out of titanium or titanium carbite. Just cause.
L180[11:51:06] <stephan48> thats cute! why these two materials? because they would need said special machining tools?
L181[11:51:46] <dequbed> machining? TiC is a 9.5 on the Mohs scale. You don't exactly "machine" that stuff :P
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L183[11:52:16] <stephan48> i was trying to find the right word, i meant stuff like SLS
L184[11:52:44] <dequbed> But yes. Because titanium is hard to work with on the best days and TiC is one of the hardest materials we have around and even harder to work with.
L185[11:53:07] <stephan48> so basically, challenge accepted? :D
L186[11:53:25] <stephan48> how realistic is it to build such machines for "private" use?
L187[11:53:56] <dequbed> It's like magnesium in that you have to sometimes redesign your entire fabrication process around the material properties but it's very unlike magnesium in that you can machine Mg on a common mill.
L188[11:54:13] <ThePi​Guy24> theoretically, not too hard to make, realistically, no clue
L189[11:54:40] <dequbed> Well see, that would very much be "private use". You need a touch of starting capital or the base system that somebody wants to get rid off and then just sink in some time.
L190[11:55:21] * stephan48 nods
L191[11:56:30] <dequbed> The biggest issue is that I'm pretty sure that you'll have a hard time actually working with TiC outside of a vacuum. So you need a vacuum chamber.
L192[11:57:11] <stephan48> why that?
L193[11:58:50] <dequbed> TiC melts at over 3k˚C. Not exactly a good environment to have oxygen, carbon and titanium in.
L194[11:59:13] <stephan48> oops, right
L195[11:59:36] <stephan48> what could possibly go wrong? :D
L196[12:00:11] <dequbed> In short I need an actual chemist that knows that stuff to work with me. I can do the other parts and make the laser go pew but that's it :P
L197[12:01:12] <stephan48> pew pew. at what are we firing? oh i thought you programmed it? ooops.
L198[12:01:31] <dequbed> Or rather a material technician. Or whatever that'd be called in english
L199[12:01:38] * stephan48 nods
L200[12:01:45] <stephan48> i think i know what you mean
L201[12:03:04] <dequbed> Problem is most people run screaming if you ask them if they want to build a ceramic 3d printer that will make everybody go blind and spray liquid ceramics around the room if it goes wrong. Can't fathom why either.
L202[12:03:35] <stephan48> strange.
L203[12:03:50] <stephan48> sounds absolutely safe!
L204[12:04:04] <dequbed> Sounds positively sane compared to what other people are doing really.
L205[12:04:27] <stephan48> yes like f.e. going outside
L206[12:05:48] <dequbed> Well I was going with "putting themselves in a metal cage and race hovering just above the ground at a significant portion of the speed of sound held in line by just a few small pieces of rubber"
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L208[12:07:06] <stephan48> you should not go outside while doing that... I think
L209[12:07:17] <stephan48> but yea that sounds indeed worse
L210[12:07:27] <dequbed> That's driving on a highway.
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L212[12:08:00] <stephan48> hahaha was about to say... about as bad as using a multi ton killing machine driven by manics aka cars
L213[12:08:18] <dequbed> Yet they call me insane for working with deadly machinery. %actualshrug
L214[12:08:19] <MichiBot> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L215[12:08:33] <stephan48> but then thought about what exactly you wrote and was like... nope you actually meant exactly that
L216[12:08:36] <stephan48> :D
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L218[12:27:39] <Vampyre> dequbed, thank you for reminding me on the portugese qualifiers, 16:00 right? ;-)
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L223[12:37:21] <dequbed> Vampyre: what?
L224[12:38:22] <Vampyre> ah thought you were talking about Formula 1 ;-)
L225[12:38:34] <Vampyre> at least it reminded me
L226[12:38:55] <dequbed> I have no idea about F1 and I don't really care about motorsport ^^' The closest I got was working with Formula Student
L227[12:44:06] <stephan48> F1 is atleast somewhat experienced drivers and safety concepts
L228[12:44:19] <stephan48> the normal street and highways? ehhhh
L229[12:57:20] * Amanda naps on Inari's shoulder the entire time we're in the haunted houses
L230[12:58:06] <Amanda> To activate fox protection from ghosts, you must have the requisite DLC
L231[12:59:07] <Amanda> Elfi's ancestors tricked me out of the protection eons ago, which is why I must protecc the moff
L232[12:59:41] * Amanda snugs up around Elfi again
L233[13:05:28] * Amanda beams her last piece of shoo-fly pie in ftonr of herself, ofc breaking some off for Elfi
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L236[14:02:29] <Forec​aster> The person who named this ship must have banged their toe on something while writing it down https://tinyurl.com/yga9o7bv
L237[14:10:11] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER: check https://nixpk.gs/pr-tracker.html?pr=121093 again
L238[14:26:43] <Inari> Amanda: rude
L239[14:27:14] <Z0id​berg> Soo
L240[14:28:12] <Z0id​berg> I'm excited
L241[14:28:27] <Z0id​berg> I've got my third date with this girl today. Going to be awesome
L242[14:28:43] <Amanda> %remindme 24h check https://nixpk.gs/pr-tracker.html?pr=121093 again again
L243[14:28:44] <MichiBot> I'll tell you "check https://nixpk.gs/pr-tracker.html?pr=121093 again again" in 24h at 05/02/2021 02:28:43 PM
L244[14:32:00] <Izaya> https://social.shadowkat.net/media/090ac9d17c24a8c92382195824ee22bdefc93dd8d421f6d15034891a1433ed3c.jpg
L245[14:37:03] <Ar​iri> https://youtu.be/H_-M-Hn3ZmU
L246[14:37:04] <MichiBot> Tom Scott - Linux | length: 7s | Likes: 1,057 Dislikes: 26 Views: 35,211 | by Altrentorae / TheJP_ | Published On 24/11/2017
L247[14:38:02] <Ar​iri> re: Formula 1
L248[14:38:02] <Ar​iri> Porsche may be joining F1 racing in 2025 I heard
L249[14:41:04] <Vampyre> 2025 is the year they start with the new motor regulations, so expect a few changes then
L250[14:41:58] <i_develo​p_things> @Z0idberg congrats man
L251[14:42:12] <Vampyre> RB already stole one of the mercedes engine specialists to set up a new engine team
L252[14:42:17] <Z0id​berg> Ixaya what game is this
L253[14:44:30] <Amanda> ARK I think
L254[14:44:54] <Amanda> Oh hey, I guess steam crashes randomly again
L255[14:46:07] <Va​ur> %tonkout
L256[14:46:08] <MichiBot> Yow! Va​ur! You beat your own previous record of 4 hours, 2 minutes and 41 seconds (By 2 hours, 32 minutes and 48 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L257[14:46:09] <MichiBot> Va​ur has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.006 tonk points! plus 0.01 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 0.91350255, Position #2 Need 0.03546845 more points to pass Compan​ionCube!
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L259[14:46:49] <Va​ur> %sip
L260[14:46:50] <MichiBot> You drink a goopy silver potion (New!). Sitting down suddenly seems like a really terrible idea.
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L262[14:48:43] <Amanda> Inari: what? Last time I tried to warn you about a spectre behind you you just ignored me and died, do you have any idea how annoying it is bringing you back?
L263[14:48:53] <Amanda> So now it's DLC
L264[14:51:20] <Izaya> ye it's ARK
L265[14:51:22] <Izaya> I built a castle
L266[14:51:28] <Izaya> it's pretty neat
L267[14:51:44] <dequbed> Izaya: is pretty
L268[14:54:09] <Izaya> I went looking for base ideas for scorched earth and didn't find any
L269[14:54:13] <Izaya> turns out SE isn't very popular
L270[14:54:20] <Izaya> so I built a regular hexagon castle
L271[15:10:57] <Va​ur> %tonk
L272[15:10:58] <MichiBot> Boom! Va​ur! You beat your own previous record of <0 (By 24 minutes and 49 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L273[15:10:59] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 24 minutes and 49 seconds! No points gained for stealing from yourself. (Lost out on 0.00041)
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L276[15:20:47] <Ar​iri> Izaya, Inari: https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/n10c8n/supernenechi_ask_we_deliver/
L277[15:20:58] <Ar​iri> [S E A L T H E D E A L]
L278[15:27:21] * Inari throws seals at @Ariri
L279[15:28:10] <Ar​iri> has a satisfactory day
L280[15:28:34] <Inari> Enjoy?
L281[15:28:54] <Ar​iri> https://youtu.be/G76nKGWRLPU
L282[15:28:55] <MichiBot> "KISS FROM A ROSE" BY SEALS | length: 39s | Likes: 67,087 Dislikes: 662 Views: 1,887,544 | by Real Big Boys | Published On 7/5/2020
L283[15:28:57] <Ar​iri> yes
L284[15:30:28] <Ar​iri> %add Nene's kiss from za rose
L285[15:30:37] <Ar​iri> %inv add Nene's kiss from za rose
L286[15:30:38] * MichiBot summons 'Nene's kiss from za rose' and adds to her inventory. This seems rather fragile...
L287[15:51:01] <Izaya> Ariri: this doesn't make any sense to me
L288[15:56:26] <Amanda> %give Michibot a book titled "THe King in Yellow"
L289[15:56:27] * MichiBot searches through her inventory for a bit. "I couldn't find anything..."
L290[15:56:34] <Amanda> %give MichiBot a book titled "THe King in Yellow"
L291[15:56:35] * MichiBot accepts the book titled "THe King in Yellow" and adds it to her inventory
L292[15:58:09] <Izaya> [concern]
L293[15:58:11] <Forec​aster> amanda do you know how to free someone who's been captured by pirates?
L294[15:58:28] <Izaya> As long as there's no particularly morbid violins around.
L295[15:59:01] <Amanda> @Forecaster in Space Haven? No, I mostly avoid the combat side of it, I enjoy the exlporation + resource managemnt much more
L296[15:59:22] <Amanda> I learned recently I can turn off alien encounters entirely, which I've done for my last 2 saves
L297[15:59:32] <Forec​aster> shoot
L298[16:00:24] <Forec​aster> a pirate ship jumped into the system I'm in, I preemptively boarded them and managed to kill most of them, but while I was doing that they managed to get a shuttle to my ship and capture the crew member I left behind
L299[16:00:50] <Amanda> Have you tried to hail them and see if there's any options in the menu for negioation?
L300[16:00:50] <Forec​aster> they returned to their ship with her and then I killed them too, but she remained a captive for some reason
L301[16:00:58] <Amanda> oh
L302[16:01:31] <Amanda> try right-clicking her with a draftd persion, maybe there's a "free" icon? I imagine it'd be a picture of handcuffs with an X on it somewhere
L303[16:01:34] <Forec​aster> I reloaded the save, and I'll just bring everyone this time
L304[16:02:13] <Forec​aster> the reason I reloaded was because a civilian ship sent a shuttle to the pirate ship and started looting it while I was there...
L305[16:02:18] <Forec​aster> so rude
L306[16:02:18] <Amanda> Mosst prisioner interactions have to bedone with a drafter persion, I think? I watch another youtuber play it, and he's much more into th combat and taking of prisioners, and it's always done with a rafted persion
L307[16:02:30] <Amanda> drafted*
L308[16:02:53] <Forec​aster> I didn't see a way to free her but I might not have looked closely enough
L309[16:03:21] <Sagh​etti> https://web.archive.org/web/20131210155635/http://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/manual/html_node/su-invocation.html#index-fascism-2365
L310[16:03:22] <Amanda> if there was, it was probably one of the iccons. I think hovering over them gives a tooltip of what they do
L311[16:03:31] <Amanda> ... why can't I type today
L312[16:03:36] <Sagh​etti> thanks, richard stallman
L313[16:03:40] <Amanda> Inari: did you spike my pie again?
L314[16:04:23] <Amanda> That's a very rude thing to do, when the amish community my parents bought it from went through so much trouble to make a delicious pie without any preservitives or other mass-produced garbage chemicals
L315[16:06:02] <Amanda> @Saghetti and that's why there's sudo -i
L316[16:07:49] <Amanda> Anyway, have a picture of a space logistics roomba waiting in an airlock for her shuttle friend to take her to a derelict to pick stuff up from: https://nc.ddna.co/s/i3SFfFFoyoQKdrA
L317[16:07:54] <Forec​aster> this time I accepted the ceacefire the pirates offered, and while that was going on I sent my boarding shuttle, and they sent theirs to the civilian ship
L318[16:08:07] <Forec​aster> the civilian ship jumped out before it arrived
L319[16:08:46] <Amanda> .... ah butts. The logistics roomba ran out of battery on the pirate ship she was looting for me
L320[16:09:20] <dequbed> > logistics roomba
L321[16:09:33] <Forec​aster> hm, they're surrendering and offering about 1k credits, or I can take them prisoner/kill them and salvage their ship...
L322[16:09:36] <Amanda> ( Logistics Robots / Salave robots are part of Alpha 12 -- currently in the experimental branch )
L323[16:09:51] <Amanda> Salvage*
L324[16:10:04] <dequbed> Amanda: Don't care, I want a logistics roomba now that puts stuff in the right shelves.
L325[16:10:21] <Inari> Amanda: no, but the cheezburger
L326[16:10:28] <Amanda> dequbed: I think it was UPS or Amazon that basically made them for their warehouses, wasn't it?
L327[16:10:54] <Amanda> Inari: but I've not had cheezburger for a week or more now.
L328[16:11:16] <Forec​aster> you can keep prisoners in your engine room right
L329[16:11:46] <dequbed> Amanda: Amazon definitely has many robots
L330[16:12:28] <Inari> Amanda: smh, are you even a cat
L331[16:12:53] <Amanda> Inari: rude!
L332[16:14:24] <Amanda> ... I don't think I needed to draft someone to take the space roomba back.
L333[16:14:49] <Amanda> got back, got themout of the shuttle, suddenly I can't interact with it, then another crew member picked up and started walking twoards it's base
L334[16:15:40] <Forec​aster> I wish it let me claim their ship instead of automatically making it a derelict
L335[16:16:13] <Amanda> I could have sworn the YTer I watch did that once or twice?
L336[16:16:28] <Amanda> I think he got all the pirates to surrender and it became claimable
L337[16:16:49] <Ar​iri> Izaya: it's a jojo thing
L338[16:16:52] <Forec​aster> a character will surrender to another human when their health gets too low
L339[16:16:53] <Ar​iri> ¯\(ツ)/¯
L340[16:17:04] <Izaya> never seen it
L341[16:17:10] <Forec​aster> I've captured all the pirates but the ship became a derelict automatically
L342[16:17:37] <Ar​iri> neither have i but the references are somewhat popular online
L343[16:17:43] <Amanda> ah
L344[16:17:53] <Ar​iri> not popular enough thought, it seems
L345[16:17:59] <Ar​iri> not popular enough though, it seems [Edited]
L346[16:35:02] <Amanda> ... wehat the hell is this roomba doing
L347[16:35:17] <Amanda> It's taking stuff from the output of one airlick, clear across the 1x3 ship, to the other airlock
L348[16:35:57] <Amanda> Then it picks something up from some storage near that airlock, and goes all the way back over to deposit it in that airlock's input.
L349[16:36:18] <Amanda> I need more space roombas...
L350[16:37:00] <Amanda> I wish someone would trade some tech blocks with me
L351[16:39:02] <Forec​aster> they didn't like that I threw them in the engine room where there is actually nothing except the engines https://tinyurl.com/yfvxgo2k
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L354[16:40:03] <Amanda> Well yeah, you have to feed them and give them somwehere to sleep other than the floor, you war criminial
L355[16:40:04] <Forec​aster> who'da thought
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L357[16:40:17] <Forec​aster> there is no "have to" in space
L358[16:41:06] <dequbed> Amanda: Don't we all need more space roombas?
L359[16:41:45] <Forec​aster> I guess they can have some space-goo for food if they insist https://tinyurl.com/ygspwsdu
L360[16:41:46] <Amanda> Oh good, she took the shutte back home instead of just running out of power in the middle of the pirate ship this time
L361[16:42:07] <Ariri> https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/may/01/apple-comes-out-swinging-in-the-duel-of-the-data-titans
L362[16:42:17] <Ariri> >When Apple announced months ago that it was planning to make this change, the big shots in the data-tracking racket went apeshit
L363[16:42:21] <Ariri> lmao
L364[16:43:53] <Amanda> OH NOW YOU'LL TAKE SOMETHINGFROM THE AIRLOCK OUTPUT TO THAT SAME AIRLOCK'S INPUT!?
L365[16:46:00] <Amanda> %choose LR-8Q0X or Admiral Stabby
L366[16:46:01] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: I want a divorce. I'm taking half the "Admiral Stabby".
L367[16:46:04] <Amanda> D:
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L369[16:47:29] <Amanda> Elfi~ MichiBot's going all king solomon on Admiral Stabby~ D:
L370[16:49:03] <dequbed> The pool roomba! D:
L371[16:49:08] <dequbed> s/pool/poor/
L372[16:49:08] <Forec​aster> crap, I'm running out of energium again
L373[16:49:09] <MichiBot> <dequbed> The poor roomba! D:
L374[16:49:56] <Amanda> @Forecaster top tip, research botony, then speed-run to X1 generator / energy fabricator asap, each energium is several fuel rods for the X#
L375[16:49:59] <Izaya> pool roombas aren't sci-fi
L376[16:50:17] <Forec​aster> yeah but it's slow
L377[16:50:42] <Forec​aster> my new ship I claimed has X1 generators in it already, but I still haven't gotten life support online in it
L378[16:53:11] <Amanda> Okay, I genuinely don't understand why this thing is dead-set on treking across the entire length of the ship, twice, when there's an airlock right by the storage
L379[16:53:24] <Forec​aster> if only a ship could appear I haven't already bought all the energium from...
L380[16:53:40] <Forec​aster> Amanda try disallowing trade on one of them
L381[16:53:57] <Amanda> wIt's a derelict, no controls for that
L382[16:54:05] <Forec​aster> ah
L383[16:54:19] <Amanda> going to try leavign a drafted shuttle on the airlock farther from the storage, see what happens
L384[16:54:42] <Forec​aster> and power is out... dammit
L385[16:54:45] <dequbed> Amanda: Maybe the roomba finds that airlock really spooky and since protection is now a DLC it's afraid? :(
L386[16:54:52] <Forec​aster> 82% to solar panels
L387[16:55:08] <Amanda> dequbed: protection for foxes! For everything else it remains free*
L388[16:55:17] <Amanda> ( With weekly scritchie subscription )
L389[16:55:30] * dequbed gives Amanda preemptive scritches
L390[16:55:36] * Amanda purrs softly
L391[16:56:34] <Amanda> Okay, no luck
L392[16:56:45] <Amanda> Considering taking a drafted persion over to shoot the airlock...
L393[16:59:22] <Forec​aster> the map says something about a distress becaon, but I can't find any
L394[16:59:40] <Amanda> damn, can't shoot the airlock
L395[17:00:10] <Amanda> @Forecaster that means someone's been boarded and taken oveer int he sector, will just be another ship, with an icon in it's thingy at thetop
L396[17:00:39] <Forec​aster> https://tinyurl.com/yeu5k7fh
L397[17:01:06] <Amanda> oh, not sure what that measn
L398[17:01:34] <Amanda> Might need someon on the ops console for it to be enabled?
L399[17:01:43] <Forec​aster> clicking "prepare" takes you to the systems menu, but there's no beacon there
L400[17:01:55] <Forec​aster> well that needs power...
L401[17:03:00] <Forec​aster> and I can't finish the solar panel research because the temperature is bad...
L402[17:03:26] <Amanda> cut off power to other parts of the base, or make it only flow twoards your ressearch area
L403[17:03:38] <Forec​aster> there is literally no power at all
L404[17:03:40] <Amanda> s/base/ship
L405[17:03:41] <MichiBot> <Amanda> cut off power to other parts of the ship, or make it only flow twoards your ressearch area
L406[17:03:42] <Amanda> ah
L407[17:03:45] <Forec​aster> I'm out of fuel
L408[17:03:53] <Forec​aster> I'm pretty sure this is unrecoverable
L409[17:04:01] <Amanda> Probably, yeah
L410[17:04:18] <Amanda> This your first save?
L411[17:04:24] <Forec​aster> well, from this point, I can reload an earlier save and try to get life support online in the other ship that can run on fuel rods
L412[17:04:26] <Forec​aster> yeah
L413[17:04:50] <Forec​aster> I might have to scavenge parts from my first ship to do so though
L414[17:05:02] <Amanda> yeah, game's a bit hard to learn, have to go through several failures to get it right. PRobably one of the rare instances I'm not annoyd massively by having to start a new save.
L415[17:05:33] <Forec​aster> well I'm kind of annoyed
L416[17:05:39] <Amanda> It's also somewhat prone to what Yahtzee calls the Cockup Cascade
L417[17:05:44] <Forec​aster> this would have been recoverable if I'd gotten those solar panels...
L418[17:06:18] <Forec​aster> maybe reload to earlier and focus on that as well
L419[17:06:44] <Izaya> ᴵ ᵘⁿᵈᵉʳˢᵗᵃⁿᵈ ᵗʰᵃᵗ ʳᵉᶠᵉʳᵉⁿᶜᵉ
L420[17:06:55] <Amanda> It's also really easy to expand too quickly and utterly fuck yourself over
L421[17:07:06] <dequbed> Sounds like Stellaris but closer
L422[17:07:08] <Amanda> That's usually what ended up happening to me
L423[17:07:16] <Forec​aster> well, the tutorial basically has you do that xD
L424[17:07:52] <Amanda> The Alpha 12 tutorial changed it a bit, though I didn't pay much attention to it beyond doing the steps as I was getting started
L425[17:08:21] <Forec​aster> I'm on 0.11.2
L426[17:09:00] <Amanda> You want to focus on starting a small part of your eventually-big ship,maybe plan the siloette out in the Sketch thing, but only activate a very small amount near th ebottom, Just enough for your crew to live, have some basic industry, etc. Slowly expand forward as you explore and gather more resources.
L427[17:09:20] <Amanda> My ship's using the new 2x3 footprint in Alpha 12, and I've barely filled out the bottom r 2x1
L428[17:09:32] <Forec​aster> what
L429[17:09:34] <Amanda> On day 47
L430[17:10:00] <Forec​aster> I don't know what you mean by 2x3 footprint
L431[17:10:13] <Amanda> Oh. It takes up 2x3 spots on the tactical map
L432[17:10:39] <Forec​aster> ah, my ship is 3x3 currently
L433[17:10:52] <Amanda> When you start in the mining thing, you can delete the blank ship they gave you (a 2x2) and start a new one in its place
L434[17:11:01] <Forec​aster> but it was necessary to get it jump capable
L435[17:11:29] <Amanda> Also you don't need to get it weight-positive, though it helps with hyperdrive fuel efficency I think?
L436[17:11:38] <Amanda> And jumprange
L437[17:11:44] <Amanda> ( Number of hops you can do )
L438[17:11:57] <Forec​aster> oh, well that was just the engines
L439[17:12:04] <Forec​aster> the control room also took a lot of space
L440[17:13:02] <Amanda> Also you can take the mining ships and shuttles from the mining station, and save on some resources.
L441[17:13:19] <Amanda> ( You still need to build their bay, but you don't have to construct whole new shuttles/mining ships )
L442[17:13:32] <Amanda> I generally do that as well
L443[17:13:57] <Amanda> Though it seems there's a slight issue with 2x3 ships atm, inthat you can't re-claim the station after you've jumped out
L444[17:14:06] <Amanda> ( not enough ship slots )
L445[17:16:40] <Amanda> Also have two shifts of people, even with a small crew of 6, that way you don't have some loss in prodductivty when they're all sleeping, and you only need half the beds then
L446[17:17:02] <Amanda> Probably want to give both shifts some overlaping freetime, so they can socialise though
L447[17:17:23] <Amanda> Oh,and cutting theeir sleep down to 4h is fine for awhile, but the stamina loss accumulates, so keep an eye on it
L448[17:17:52] <Amanda> Eventually you have people waking up and passin gout on the floor halfway through their shift
L449[17:21:06] <Amanda> oh hey, stabby's almost done looting this pirate ship, then I can go
L450[17:21:22] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L451[17:21:22] <MichiBot> Woooo! Compan​ionCube! You beat Va​ur's previous record of 24 minutes and 49 seconds (By 1 hour, 45 minutes and 34 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L452[17:21:23] <MichiBot> CompanionCube's new record is 2 hours, 10 minutes and 23 seconds! CompanionCube also gained 0.00176 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.
L453[17:22:55] <Amanda> Oh also, take my advice with research with a massive truck-load of salt, I'm still learning it, it wasn't in the game last time I played. <.<;
L454[17:39:47] <Amanda> Admiral Stabby has a gun! https://nc.ddna.co/s/jBaEF4tidroxrtc
L455[17:46:31] <Forec​aster> Oh, I didn't pick the mining station start
L456[17:46:37] <Forec​aster> I picked the other one
L457[18:01:17] <Sagh​etti> just realized
L458[18:01:23] <Sagh​etti> you could make a c compiler that doesn't do any conditional branches
L459[18:02:44] <i_develo​p_things> how
L460[18:02:48] <i_develo​p_things> please elaborate
L461[18:02:56] <Sagh​etti> booleans are 0 or 1
L462[18:03:13] <Sagh​etti> lets say you need to jump to address 0x10 if false, 0x20 if true
L463[18:03:26] <Sagh​etti> move 0x10 into a register
L464[18:03:34] <Sagh​etti> move 0x10 into another register
L465[18:03:39] <Sagh​etti> multiply the second register by the boolean
L466[18:03:42] <Sagh​etti> add second register to the first
L467[18:03:47] <Sagh​etti> jump to the first register's address
L468[18:04:02] <Sagh​etti> 0x10+(0x10*true) is 0x20
L469[18:04:08] <Sagh​etti> 0x10+(0x10*false) is 0x10
L470[18:04:09] <Sagh​etti> boom
L471[18:04:23] <dequbed> That's still a conditional branch
L472[18:04:38] <Sagh​etti> it's an unconditional jump instruction
L473[18:04:49] <Sagh​etti> checks no cpu flags
L474[18:04:59] <dequbed> That it is
L475[18:05:42] <dequbed> But it's a conditional branch (if you use the usual definition of `branch` as change in execution flow)
L476[18:05:52] <Sagh​etti> yeah i get it
L477[18:06:10] <Sagh​etti> this also works for simple conditional logic like if (thing) x += 5;
L478[18:06:40] <Sagh​etti> not sure how possible this is for more complex code
L479[18:09:29] <dequbed> Possible? Totally. Sensible? Less so ;)
L480[18:17:28] <t20kdc> it's an indirect branch being used as a conditional branch
L481[18:17:47] <t20kdc> as far as CPU design goes, it's worse than a conditional branch
L482[18:18:22] <t20kdc> however, this is still not deep enough into lack-of-sensibility
L483[18:18:36] <t20kdc> I propose the code-modifying indirect conditional branch
L484[18:18:50] <dequbed> I mean x86 has this as instructions so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L485[18:18:56] <t20kdc> which is a regular unconditional branch that is modified by prior code in a way that is effectively conditional
L486[18:21:00] <Amanda> @Forecaster ah, the mining station start's a bit easier since you get to design the ship from ground 0, and the station has some manufacturing stuff in it
L487[18:21:24] <t20kdc> the primary utility of the code-modifying indirect conditional branch over other methods is that the cause of the branch may be at remoteness to the actual effect of the branch, as in a system where code modification is sufficiently commonplace, any code can modify any other code
L488[18:26:28] <Sagh​etti> just came out of the shower
L489[18:26:32] <Sagh​etti> already thought of self-modifying code
L490[18:26:56] <Sagh​etti> for architectures that don't support indirect jumps
L491[18:26:58] <Sagh​etti> :sungals:
L492[18:27:13] <i_develo​p_things> ~~so 6502?~~ waitno that might
L493[18:27:51] <Sagh​etti> also who needs the zero flag when you can just OR all of the bits in a number together
L494[18:27:51] <Sagh​etti> ez
L495[18:27:54] <i_develo​p_things> i have decided to perhaps get a system76 pangolin this summer, if i can
L496[18:29:35] <Sagh​etti> cool
L497[18:30:07] <i_develo​p_things> partially because my current laptop is a fkin early-2006 macbook pro
L498[18:35:30] <simon816> @Sagh​etti, check out the movfuscator if you haven't already
L499[18:38:40] <Inari> .
L500[18:40:02] <Sagh​etti> lemme guess: mov-only x86 code
L501[18:40:05] <Sagh​etti> i've seen that before
L502[18:40:30] <Sagh​etti> update: yep
L503[18:40:32] <ThePi​Guy24> getting OINK vibes from this :p
L504[18:41:40] <Sagh​etti> and it's made by the same guy who did this gem of a talk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrksBdWcZgQ
L505[18:41:40] <MichiBot> Breaking the x86 Instruction Set | length: 44m 29s | Likes: 8,675 Dislikes: 111 Views: 292,833 | by Black Hat | Published On 31/8/2017
L506[18:41:52] <simon816> <3
L507[18:42:11] <Sagh​etti> oh and this too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eSAF_qT_FY
L508[18:42:12] <MichiBot> GOD MODE UNLOCKED - Hardware Backdoors in x86 CPUs | length: 51m | Likes: 7,299 Dislikes: 183 Views: 263,724 | by Black Hat | Published On 28/8/2018
L509[18:46:43] <Kristo​pher38> @Saghetti wait until you discover conditional mov
L510[18:47:46] <Sagh​etti> arm moment
L511[18:48:14] <Kristo​pher38> ???
L512[18:48:52] <Sagh​etti> arm has conditional everything
L513[18:48:58] <Sagh​etti> but thanks, didn't know cmov existed
L514[18:49:14] <Kristo​pher38> huh, interesting, didn't know arm had conditional everything
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L517[18:53:30] <Forec​aster> Amanda: https://tinyurl.com/yhj53x6q
L518[18:53:32] <Forec​aster> first ship
L519[18:54:18] <Amanda> Nice start.
L520[18:55:12] <Sagh​etti> >Kristo​pher38: huh, interesting, didn't know arm had con…
L521[18:55:13] <Sagh​etti> interestingly enough, jumps in arm aren't encoded as a conditional store to r15 (program counter)
L522[18:55:27] <Amanda> Here's what I've got so far for my current save: https://nc.ddna.co/s/AAoasYmgMfiAwXi
L523[18:55:32] <Sagh​etti> there's actual branch instructions at the machine code level
L524[18:55:56] <Forec​aster> wide build
L525[18:56:03] <Amanda> That's just the back third, too
L526[18:56:31] <Forec​aster> this is the claimed ship I'm trying to get lifesupport online on now https://tinyurl.com/yjbxymg7
L527[18:57:40] <Amanda> Here's the full ship I've currently got sketeched out: https://nc.ddna.co/s/ptDty2PCWxqnZJX
L528[19:01:06] <Amanda> %choose tier 2 manufacturing or t2 hyperdrive
L529[19:01:06] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Somebody once told me to roll with "tier 2 manufacturing"
L530[19:02:12] <Forec​aster> lifesupport is nearly online!
L531[19:02:22] <Forec​aster> question is how long the 6 fuel rods I have will last
L532[19:02:33] <Forec​aster> if it's enough for me to get out of here and find more fuel
L533[19:02:41] <Amanda> probably for the best, given my current luck with finding a trader to give me damn tech blocks
L534[19:02:42] <Forec​aster> or at least get some solar panels online
L535[19:03:17] <Forec​aster> solar panel rs is at 79%
L536[19:04:13] <Amanda> Power capacity is at 89% right now, so maybe next time I go on a crafting spree of infra/hull I won't nearly drain my entire ship's power
L537[19:04:31] <Amanda> ( Batteries )
L538[19:05:01] <Forec​aster> a ship is incoming... maybe they'll have some more fuel for me
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L540[19:07:45] <Amanda> oh also
L541[19:08:07] <Amanda> when alpha 12 drops, the CO2 Producer becomes actually required
L542[19:08:32] <Amanda> had to do a mad scramble to get it because my plants kept suffocating
L543[19:10:07] <Kristo​pher38> >Sagh​etti: there's actual branch instructions at the mac…
L544[19:10:07] <Kristo​pher38> how is that different
L545[19:10:37] <Forec​aster> oh, oops
L546[19:10:51] <Forec​aster> my prisoners all died because I left them in the ship with no power or oxygen
L547[19:13:35] <Amanda> what a way to go
L548[19:15:22] <Sagh​etti> >Kristo​pher38: how is that different
L549[19:15:22] <Sagh​etti> wdym
L550[19:15:44] <Sagh​etti> they both do the same thing
L551[19:15:49] <Sagh​etti> just encoded differently
L552[19:20:28] <Forec​aster> sigh, dammit
L553[19:20:35] <Forec​aster> the same bunch of ships keep showing up
L554[19:20:47] <Forec​aster> and they never bring new energium with them
L555[19:20:49] <Amanda> oh hey.. I've got that 6th hyper drive now? Where the hell did I get the techblocks for that!? I don't think there were any on the derelict I was stripping?
L556[19:21:15] <Amanda> @Forecaster oh also, Recycler -> Eneergy Scrap generates some small amount of energium
L557[19:21:32] <Amanda> like .33/scrap
L558[19:21:45] <Forec​aster> I have a recycler... on my unpowered ship xD
L559[19:23:10] <Forec​aster> my biggest priority right now to recover is to get the oxygen level high enough that they can sleep without suits on the new ship
L560[19:23:17] <Forec​aster> they are not happy currently
L561[19:23:40] <Amanda> %choose explore new system or collct common metals
L562[19:23:40] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Hold on tightly! "explore new system" is a wild ride!
L563[19:26:52] <Forec​aster> I don't like that the game wont tell you what is on the floor
L564[19:28:19] <Amanda> That's fixeed in alpha 12
L565[19:28:28] <Forec​aster> great
L566[19:29:02] <Amanda> To be released "sometime in may" -- but if you're feeling adventurous you can get into the experimental branch using steam's usual beta stuff
L567[19:29:43] <Forec​aster> it's from gog for me
L568[19:29:56] <Amanda> ah
L569[19:30:19] <Forec​aster> got a research station up on the new ship
L570[19:30:33] <Forec​aster> soon I should be able to bring the old ship online again with the power of the sun!
L571[19:30:36] <Forec​aster> maybe, a bit at least
L572[19:33:55] <Forec​aster> 92%!
L573[19:34:15] <Amanda> IT's from Alpha 10,but I assume the instruction's the same, if you want to use the Alpha 12: https://www.gog.com/forum/space_haven/space_haven_alpha_10_now_in_the_experimental_branch
L574[19:35:11] <bad at​ vijya> wew
L575[19:36:06] <Amanda> usual "Game may eat your dog and kick your homework" warning though
L576[19:37:18] <Amanda> so far it's been pretty fine for me, other than randomly popping up "Missing Resources!"that seems to resolve itself immediately, and when I do get a hover over it it's not even saying anything's missing
L577[19:38:06] <Forec​aster> eeeeey https://tinyurl.com/yj7svmo9
L578[19:38:08] <Forec​aster> finally!
L579[19:38:16] <Amanda> nice
L580[19:38:17] <Forec​aster> now lets see if this is actually useful or not
L581[19:38:37] <Forec​aster> also, new research: energy refinery
L582[19:40:37] <Forec​aster> hm, needs a 3x3 internally...
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L584[19:51:17] <among> anyone online?
L585[19:51:22] <Amanda> nope
L586[19:53:13] <among> yeah i can tell
L587[19:54:08] <Amanda> Shock, awe, other people may be doing other things
L588[19:54:35] <among> no they're not
L589[19:54:53] <among> people only exist when i interact with them
L590[19:55:06] * Amanda looks at her primary monitor, playing Space Haven, looks back at the second monitor with IRC on it.
L591[19:55:11] <Amanda> Sure, whatever you say bud.
L592[19:55:20] <among> ok
L593[19:55:46] <among> real
L594[20:04:20] <Forec​aster> hm, a solar panel generates 3/s at 88% solar output
L595[20:04:23] <Forec​aster> not a lot
L596[20:05:33] <among> rf?
L597[20:05:40] <among> or gj
L598[20:06:23] <Forec​aster> I'm talking about Space Heaven, not minecraft
L599[20:06:33] <Forec​aster> I'm talking about Space Haven, not minecraft [Edited]
L600[20:08:14] <among> i mean we are sorta using opencomputers right now so its safe to assume you wouldve been talking about minecraft
L601[20:08:31] <among> but fair enough
L602[20:08:41] <Amanda> You may be, most of us are on proper clients, or over the Discord bridge
L603[20:08:42] <Forec​aster> who's we
L604[20:09:18] <Amanda> IRC is hardly OC specific, and topics don't have to be stuck to like gospel
L605[20:11:30] <among> ok ew
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L607[20:11:44] <Amanda> "ew" yourself
L608[20:11:50] <Forec​aster> wat
L609[20:12:02] <Amanda> ( They immediately left after that message )
L610[20:12:10] <Forec​aster> I know
L611[20:17:44] <Forec​aster> do you not get hull blocks back from removing hull?
L612[20:19:02] <Amanda> Nope, you get scrap
L613[20:19:05] <Amanda> If anything
L614[20:19:10] <Forec​aster> oh
L615[20:19:18] <Amanda> Yah, it'sa pain
L616[20:21:01] <Amanda> %choose halucinate or try and figure out how to make the laptop actually sleep at night?
L617[20:21:01] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: You *could* do "halucinate", I guess.
L618[20:21:06] <Amanda> sounds good
L619[20:29:22] <Forec​aster> day 60 and I'm still stuck in this stupid system
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L622[20:51:46] <Forec​aster> ...why are the solar panels consuming 0.1 power/s...
L623[20:52:46] <dequbed> 'cause you're using them as very shitty LEDs
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L628[21:10:29] <CompanionCube> %tonkout
L629[21:10:29] <MichiBot> Awesome! Compan​ionCube! You beat your own previous record of 2 hours, 10 minutes and 23 seconds (By 1 hour, 38 minutes and 43 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L630[21:10:30] <MichiBot> Compan​ionCube has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.003 tonk points! plus 0.004 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 0.957731, Position #1
L631[22:02:23] <Forec​aster> %tonk
L632[22:02:24] <MichiBot> Jeepers! Forec​aster! You beat Compan​ionCube's previous record of <0 (By 51 minutes and 54 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L633[22:02:25] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 51 minutes and 54 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.00087 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #3. Need 0.09980185 more points to pass Va​ur!
L634[22:18:47] <dequbed> Ariri: *poke* hey *poke* hey >:3
L635[22:19:00] <dequbed> Wanna have our (now shared and online) cookbook?
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L637[22:50:22] <Amanda> %choose for dinner; pizza or snacks
L638[22:50:22] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: snacks for dinner
L639[23:16:47] <Amanda> %choose unplug or wait
L640[23:16:48] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: A wizard is never late, and sometimes engages in some "wait".
L641[23:16:58] <Amanda> .... That's oddly fitting
L642[23:17:20] <Amanda> Right, guess I'll dig through the KDE settings to see if I can figure out why KDE won't put my laptop to slep when I close the lid
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