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L2[00:38:51] <bad at​ vijya> very proud of this :) https://tinyurl.com/yjmqh3un
L3[00:39:50] <Wat​tana> how do you uhh
L4[00:39:55] <Wat​tana> remove nanomachines?
L5[00:41:19] <Amanda> Drink grok
L6[00:41:32] <Amanda> You'll vomit them up and die
L7[00:43:35] <Amanda> At least I assume it still ills you like normally drinking grok does
L8[00:45:28] <bad at​ vijya> i had a dumb idea
L9[00:45:36] <bad at​ vijya> because i found lua bindings to tcc
L10[00:46:28] <bad at​ vijya> https://github.com/javierguerragiraldez/lua-tcc
L11[00:54:01] <CompanionCube> oh?
L12[01:12:51] <Amanda> Izaya: have you had any issues with KOReader's suspend/resume cycle? Seems like since the last update it's been just flat out hanging/dying when I close the cover sometimes
L13[01:23:05] <bad at​ vijya> hmm
L14[01:23:10] <bad at​ vijya> time to make a toy project
L15[01:23:32] <i_develo​p_things> most of my projects are that tbh
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L17[01:28:10] <Z0id​berg> @Kristopher38 you are correct
L18[01:28:13] <Z0id​berg> it is a 12 bit register
L19[01:28:45] <Z0id​berg> Amanda: I still use Fluxbox after well over a decade XD
L20[01:28:54] <Kristo​pher38> oh, so that thick line at the top are the inputs?
L21[01:29:02] <Z0id​berg> that's the data bus
L22[01:29:05] <Z0id​berg> it should be like this:
L23[01:29:27] <Kristo​pher38> the red dots at the outputs threw me off
L24[01:29:37] <Z0id​berg> https://tinyurl.com/yze4oby4
L25[01:29:40] <Z0id​berg> that may help
L26[01:30:07] <Z0id​berg> its a single data bus register, so it cant' be read from and written to at the same time, but it's not necessary
L27[01:30:30] <Z0id​berg> some designs I've done do multi data bus muliplexing
L28[01:30:35] <Kristo​pher38> I thought the inputs were supposed to be red dots as well
L29[01:30:41] <Z0id​berg> so for example you can pupe it into an adder or something
L30[01:30:46] <Z0id​berg> nah
L31[01:31:00] <Z0id​berg> those red dots on the right are just unterminated wires
L32[01:31:07] <Z0id​berg> one is write one is clock and one is read
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L34[01:34:02] <Z0id​berg> that circuit is getting more complicated though over time
L35[01:34:05] <Z0id​berg> https://tinyurl.com/yhp5jjad
L36[01:35:10] <Z0id​berg> I'm helping someone design a CPU for Minecraft. Decided to start putting it together today. This is how I plan them out usually.
L37[01:36:30] <Z0id​berg> Oh I found a bug
L38[01:41:17] <Amanda> @Z0idberg I'm just glad with NixOS I can fuck about with different DEs and shit relatively safely
L39[01:41:27] <Kristo​pher38> oh while we're on the topic
L40[01:41:28] <Z0id​berg> I know some people that like NixOS
L41[01:41:36] <Z0id​berg> I haven't used it myself
L42[01:41:39] <Amanda> @Z0idberg in the last year I've gont from sway/wayland -> AwesomeWM -- now givingKDE a shot
L43[01:41:54] <Z0id​berg> if you like Awesome you might like i3
L44[01:41:55] <Kristo​pher38> projectred fabrication is getting a rewrite and it's gonna have all the cool features that everyone wanted https://github.com/MrTJP/ProjectRed/discussions/1616
L45[01:41:56] <Z0id​berg> or wmii
L46[01:42:01] <Z0id​berg> or even ratpoison
L47[01:42:19] <Amanda> I've used i3 before
L48[01:42:36] <Amanda> wmii is the one with an plan9 fs for "scripting" right? Or is that somethign else
L49[01:42:43] <Amanda> I think I've used that too
L50[01:44:30] <Amanda> I thik I tried fluxbox a few (many) years ago, couldn't figure it out. that might have been around when I was pissy because I didn't do enogh research beforehand, and ended up buying a netbook with no GPU acceleration/support at all
L51[01:45:05] <Amanda> GNOME was a massive pain back then, no idea if the MESA software rasteriser's gotten better since
L52[01:46:03] <Amanda> %choose laptop nap time or continue poking about
L53[01:46:03] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: I've heard "continue poking about" is in these days
L54[01:46:20] <Amanda> Is it now? Well, I fell like setting a new trend
L55[01:46:32] * Amanda tucks in around Elfi, vegges out to some youtubes
L56[01:52:46] <bad at​ vijya> the jist of the idea i had was
L57[01:53:24] <bad at​ vijya> combine luajit, the lua-tcc lib, a tiny cstdlib, and a lot of glue together to make something where i write Lua for e v e r y t h i n g
L58[01:55:49] <bad at​ vijya> anyways
L59[01:57:21] * Elfi petpets Amanda
L60[02:02:34] * Amanda purrs
L61[02:03:26] <Amanda> @badatvidya I feel like ffi would be better for that. Doesn't it have a way to turn something like c headers into a binding?
L62[02:11:55] <bad at​ vijya> but my bare metal
L63[02:15:10] <Izaya> I made a mistake
L64[02:15:35] <Izaya> phone's just been spammed with 4 hours worth of constant baby hatching from my ARK server
L65[02:17:18] <Ariri> Izaya, was there someone on Fediverse previously named "PoyoAssistant" or something?
L66[02:17:48] <Izaya> not to my nowledgr
L67[02:18:04] <Ariri> Hmm...
L68[02:18:14] <Ariri> I could've sworn I saw this name elsewhere
L69[02:18:35] <Izaya> Amanda: no issues here but I only update when kobo fucks my koreader scripts with a system update
L70[03:03:47] * Amanda drapes her tail over Elfi, grooms the leftover tireds out of her fur, zzzmews
L71[03:03:52] <Amanda> Night nerds
L72[03:04:03] <Amanda> Izaya: fair enough
L73[03:05:15] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L74[03:05:17] <MichiBot> Yippee! Compan​ionCube! You beat Va​ur's previous record of 2 hours, 13 minutes and 9 seconds (By 1 hour, 2 minutes and 44 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L75[03:05:18] <MichiBot> CompanionCube's new record is 3 hours, 15 minutes and 54 seconds! CompanionCube also gained 0.00315 (0.00105 x 3) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need 0.0310614 more points to pass Va​ur!
L76[03:32:07] <Wat​tana> hot damn that's some strong stuff https://tinyurl.com/yeleh96r
L77[03:32:14] <Wat​tana> (it worked)
L78[03:40:26] <Wat​tana> random question can you kill nanomachine users by sending malicious wireless messages?
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L80[04:06:09] <Izaya> if they have the right nanomachine commands mapped
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L83[04:46:18] <Wat​tana> >Iz​aya: if they have the right nanomachine comma…
L84[04:46:19] <Wat​tana> i'd imagine an anarchy opencomputers server where they have all sorts of crazy stuff with murder via nanomachines on the list
L85[04:53:53] <CompanionCube> 3y
L86[04:54:15] <CompanionCube> why am i reminded of the time #oc discussed in-game wardriving
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L89[05:59:05] <bad at​ vijya> damn
L90[05:59:13] <bad at​ vijya> i wanna have a tiny turbodiesel minipickup
L91[06:14:10] <bad at​ vijya> three seconds into writing C
L92[06:14:11] <bad at​ vijya> and
L93[06:14:21] <bad at​ vijya> already have an ugly hack inline function
L94[06:19:23] <CompanionCube> it's C what did you expect
L95[06:19:55] <bad at​ vijya> not depending on code being run on a little endian arch
L96[06:19:56] <bad at​ vijya> lmao
L97[06:20:14] <bad at​ vijya> sucks to suck to anyone who has to use foxctl on a big endian arch
L98[06:20:26] <bad at​ vijya> make your own inline u48 to u64 function
L99[06:28:40] <bad at​ vijya> CC: why did anyone give me the power to make a filesystem
L100[06:34:39] <CompanionCube> bad at vijya: tbf endian-dependent filesystems are surprisingly common
L101[06:35:10] <CompanionCube> enough so that sun considered it an advertising-worthy feature back in the day
L102[06:35:57] <bad at​ vijya> CC: to be fair, foxfs is supposed to be either endian, it's based on the magic
L103[06:36:13] <bad at​ vijya> i just can't be assed to swap the endian
L104[06:36:17] <CompanionCube> ah, they did the same thing
L105[06:36:32] <bad at​ vijya> very much a "when i get around to coding it" moment
L106[06:36:44] <bad at​ vijya> in `fox.h` i have
L107[06:36:44] <CompanionCube> everything is written in the native endianness and there's a bit for which it is
L108[06:36:49] <bad at​ vijya> `#define FOX_SIGNATURE 0x79786f66 // foxy`
L109[06:36:56] <bad at​ vijya> `#define FOXSIGNATUREREV 0x666f7879`
L110[06:37:53] <CompanionCube> importing on different-endianness machines is clearly a Real Soon Now(tm) feature/
L111[06:38:11] <bad at​ vijya> yea lmao
L112[06:38:26] <bad at​ vijya> the u48 shit was already enough of a hackjob
L113[07:01:24] <Forec​aster> %tonk
L114[07:01:24] <MichiBot> Jiminy Cricket! Forec​aster! You beat Compan​ionCube's previous record of 3 hours, 15 minutes and 54 seconds (By 40 minutes and 15 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L115[07:01:25] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 3 hours, 56 minutes and 9 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.00268 (0.00067 x 4) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #3. Need 0.26047015 more points to pass Compan​ionCube!
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L117[07:50:54] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L118[07:55:32] <Forec​aster> %sip
L119[07:55:32] <MichiBot> You drink a freezing nectar potion (New!). Forecaster's favourite hat is suddenly on fire.
L120[08:07:09] <ky​ngs> Imagine using C :PepeLaughW:
L121[08:08:04] <n​il> imagine not using Rust instead of C
L122[08:10:08] <ky​ngs> >nu​ll: imagine not using Rust instead of C
L123[08:10:08] <ky​ngs> true :LULW:
L124[08:12:41] <n​il> or kotlin native
L125[08:18:10] <ky​ngs> hey are slots in drones counted from 0-7 or 1-8?
L126[08:18:54] <n​il> idk
L127[08:18:59] <n​il> id try both
L128[08:19:08] <Em​mi> Id assume theyre indexed the same as the rest of Lua
L129[08:19:30] <ky​ngs> well drone throws invalid slot error in both cases
L130[08:21:40] <ky​ngs> gonna steal some code from other drone projects on github :WideHardo:
L131[08:28:16] <Em​mi> every programmers favourite websites:
L132[08:28:16] <Em​mi> - github
L133[08:28:16] <Em​mi> - stackoverflow
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L135[09:07:37] <Izaya> https://social.shadowkat.net/media/e3ee0211309b1baeb95cb72cd0be5710abd513cbd88fcd5c9224e74e827e86d8.png
L136[09:18:42] <Em​mi> what display manager is that
L137[09:19:02] <Em​mi> well
L138[09:19:04] <Em​mi> wm/dm
L139[09:19:05] <Em​mi> awesomeWM?
L140[09:19:11] <Izaya> xfwm4
L141[09:20:39] <Em​mi> huh? never seen that xfwm theme before
L142[09:22:21] <Izaya> I think it's called Gtk
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L144[09:22:36] <SlimeDiamondOC> okay so
L145[09:22:41] <SlimeDiamondOC> I'm inside opencomputers right now
L146[09:22:49] <Forec​aster> >ky​ngs: hey are slots in drones counted from 0-7 or…
L147[09:22:49] <Forec​aster> everything in Lua is 1-indexed
L148[09:22:56] <Forec​aster> and drones only have 1 slot
L149[09:22:56] <ky​ngs> ok
L150[09:23:08] <ky​ngs> they do have 8
L151[09:23:11] <ky​ngs> with inv upgrade
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L154[09:25:30] <me_when_the> dead chat?
L155[09:25:48] <Izaya> you've been here for 30 seconds
L156[09:29:01] <Lizzy> > declares chat dead
L157[09:29:10] <Lizzy> > hasn't added anything of value themselves
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L159[09:30:08] <Lizzy> k bai
L160[09:31:34] <Em​mi> kbai
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L162[09:54:42] <Forec​aster> hm, for some reason I thought drones couldn't use inventory upgrades
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L164[10:01:21] <Va​ur> %sip
L165[10:01:21] <MichiBot> You drink a spooned orange potion (New!). Vaur's favourite hat suddenly disintegrates.
L166[10:20:12] <Kit​oko> %sip
L167[10:20:13] <MichiBot> You drink a boiling water potion (New!). Kitoko is suddenly more aware of cute things nearby until Sozin's Comet returns.
L168[10:58:45] <Kit​oko> https://tails.is-ne.at/xwqETb.png
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L170[11:03:15] <Va​ur> looking good
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L172[11:03:37] <Va​ur> %tonkout
L173[11:03:38] <MichiBot> Crud! Va​ur! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of 3 hours, 56 minutes and 9 seconds (By 6 minutes and 4 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L174[11:03:39] <MichiBot> Va​ur has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.004 tonk points! plus 0.003 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 0.9055824. Position #1
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L176[11:20:31] <Va​ur> %tonk
L177[11:20:31] <MichiBot> Jeepers! Va​ur! You beat your own previous record of <0 (By 16 minutes and 53 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L178[11:20:32] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 16 minutes and 53 seconds! No points gained for stealing from yourself. (Lost out on 0.00028)
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L185[11:57:21] <n​il> %tonk
L186[11:57:21] <MichiBot> Dagnabbit! n​il! You beat Va​ur's previous record of 16 minutes and 53 seconds (By 19 minutes and 55 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L187[11:57:22] <MichiBot> nil's new record is 36 minutes and 49 seconds! nil also gained 0.00033 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #4. Need 0.21418954 more points to pass Forec​aster!
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L189[12:17:59] <Vampyre> %sip coffee
L190[12:18:00] <MichiBot> Vam​pyre: Vampyre has some coffee. It's hot and bitter.
L191[12:20:29] <n​il> %sip
L192[12:20:29] <MichiBot> You drink a bubbly dalekanium potion (New!). nil's skin turn the color of platinum until they say the phrase "Woof Noir".
L193[12:20:48] <n​il> I like platinum color so I won't say that phrase.
L194[12:22:56] <Skye> %sip tea
L195[12:22:57] <MichiBot> This doesn't seem to be a potion I recognize... Make sure it has an appearance and consistency keyword, and the word "potion" in it.
L196[12:23:00] <Skye> :v
L197[12:34:52] <Bene​dani> %consume idk potion
L198[12:34:52] <MichiBot> You drink a powdery emerald potion (New!). A voice whispers a secret into Benedani's ear only they can hear.
L199[12:35:08] <Bene​dani> oh
L200[12:36:15] <ThePi​Guy24> >Mich​iBot: This doesn't seem to be a potion I recogniz…
L201[12:36:15] <ThePi​Guy24> sad bri'ish moment
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L203[13:44:55] <Amanda> %choose em or pressure
L204[13:44:55] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Wait, what was the question again? Uhh... "pressure"?
L205[13:46:02] <ky​ngs> Guys help, I get "attempt to call a nil value (method 'insert') on this line:
L206[13:46:03] <ky​ngs> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/ekiqidireg
L207[13:46:03] <ky​ngs> Even though temprows, str and convertedpos are not null
L208[13:46:09] <Forec​aster> AAmanda putting MichiBot under pressure
L209[13:48:12] <ky​ngs> >ky​ngs: Guys help, I get "attempt to call a ni…
L210[13:48:12] <ky​ngs> amanda please save my ass
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L212[13:49:33] <Amanda> does `insert` exist on tmmp_rows?
L213[13:49:46] <Amanda> s/on/in/
L214[13:49:46] <ky​ngs> temp_rows is table
L215[13:49:47] <MichiBot> <Amanda> does `insert` exist in tmmp_rows?
L216[13:50:06] <Amanda> you can't do table.insert with sometable:insert
L217[13:50:10] <Amanda> strings are special in that regard
L218[13:50:15] <ky​ngs> OH FUCK
L219[13:50:22] <ky​ngs> Well I've got :Jebaited:
L220[13:50:27] <ky​ngs> gonna try it
L221[13:53:38] <ky​ngs> >Ama​nda: you can't do table.insert with sometab…
L222[13:53:38] <ky​ngs> Well now I get: bad argument #2 to 'insert' (position out of bounds)
L223[13:54:29] <Amanda> then converted_pos is < 1 or > the size of the table
L224[13:58:18] <Amanda> if you share more of the code, and explain what you're trying to do, you may find this to be an XY Problem
L225[13:58:39] <Amanda> %wiki XY Problem
L226[13:58:49] <Amanda> %search wiki XY Problem
L227[13:58:50] <MichiBot> I had an exception... ow. Here's the stacktrace: https://paste.pc-logix.com/ofopaximan
L228[13:58:55] <Amanda> ... good jorb
L229[13:59:15] <Amanda> ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XY_problem )
L230[14:01:29] <ky​ngs> >Ama​nda: if you share more of the code, and exp…
L231[14:01:29] <ky​ngs> So tl;dr I am doing a farm drone and I am collecting list of waypoints into a table that has structure of
L232[14:01:29] <ky​ngs> key = the ID of the waypoint
L233[14:01:30] <ky​ngs> value = a table which consists of 3 fields, x, y, z
L234[14:03:46] <ky​ngs> I hope I kinda explained it
L235[14:04:05] <Amanda> in that case you probably wabe temp_rows[id] = ... not `table.insert`
L236[14:04:19] <ky​ngs> that makes sense
L237[14:04:23] <ky​ngs> oh gosh I am so dumb
L238[14:04:25] <ky​ngs> I hope it will work
L239[14:04:35] <Amanda> table.insert is to add to a list-like table
L240[14:04:49] <Amanda> possibly inserting in the middle (second arg)
L241[14:05:38] <ky​ngs> ah ok
L242[14:06:01] <ky​ngs> I am still learning Lua and I am pretty confused of tables :pepeMeltdown: because it is way different than in other languages
L243[14:07:11] <Amanda> tables are like arrays and hashmaps in one
L244[14:08:41] <ky​ngs> well yeah
L245[14:09:09] <ky​ngs> that is extremely confusing for me because in java maps and arrays are completely different
L246[14:09:40] <Amanda> Lua is a higher-level language, and not OOM-based usually
L247[14:09:49] <Amanda> ... not OOM. OO
L248[14:09:51] <ky​ngs> yep
L249[14:10:41] <ky​ngs> FML
L250[14:10:58] <ky​ngs> so the cause of the bug I was solving for several hours was this
L251[14:11:25] <ky​ngs> really thanks for help
L252[14:17:40] <Izaya> OOH
L253[14:17:46] <Izaya> (Object Oriented Hell)
L254[14:18:52] <ky​ngs> wdym
L255[14:19:02] <ky​ngs> you say that OOP is hell?
L256[14:20:04] <Amanda> it can be
L257[14:22:25] <Va​ur> %tonk
L258[14:22:25] <MichiBot> Boo-yah! Va​ur! You beat n​il's previous record of 36 minutes and 49 seconds (By 1 hour, 48 minutes and 14 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L259[14:22:26] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 2 hours, 25 minutes and 4 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.0018 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.
L260[14:25:12] <Izaya> not necessarily, but in practice, usually
L261[14:40:05] <ky​ngs> I've never had problems with OOP :eShrug:
L262[14:41:49] <Amanda> eShrug indeed.
L263[14:50:47] <ky​ngs> Hey how do you see discord emotes on IRC?
L264[14:51:54] <Amanda> just the :foo:
L265[14:52:30] <Izaya> discord emojos are mediocre
L266[14:52:44] <ThePi​Guy24> custom ones arent :p
L267[14:52:48] <ThePi​Guy24> like :dieselgenerator:
L268[14:52:59] <Amanda> It's sure nice how they charge you for the "privilge" to use them from other servers.
L269[14:53:10] <Amanda> s/servers/guilds/
L270[14:53:10] <Izaya> s/servers/guilds/
L271[14:53:11] <MichiBot> <Amanda> It's sure nice how they charge you for the "privilge" to use them from other guilds.
L272[14:53:12] <MichiBot> <Amanda> It's sure nice how they charge you for the "privilge" to use them from other guilds.
L273[14:53:14] <Izaya> ayy
L274[14:53:39] <Izaya> anyway yeah imagine paying for emojos rather than just pestering your admin to add them
L275[14:53:42] <ThePi​Guy24> (diesel generator experience for the IRC peeps https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/821941450383818803.png)
L276[14:53:44] <Izaya> or adding them yourself
L277[14:55:57] <Izaya> speaking of, FAB has all the cool emojos I should steal https://w1r3.net/LFbKug.png
L278[14:56:23] <Amanda> FAB?
L279[14:56:39] <Izaya> don't ask me to spell it I can't spell cursed german words
L280[14:56:45] <Amanda> I see
L281[14:59:03] <Izaya> fedi.absturztau.be
L282[14:59:03] <ThePi​Guy24> Fredrich Autobahn
L283[14:59:11] <ThePi​Guy24> close enough
L284[14:59:16] <Izaya> yup
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L286[15:04:02] <ky​ngs> >Ama​nda: It's sure nice how they charge you for…
L287[15:04:02] <ky​ngs> Well the thing is, discord nitro is more like a donation
L288[15:04:19] <i_develo​p_things> still payment tho
L289[15:04:31] <ky​ngs> tell me which other benefits should it have than the emotes to make it worthy to people that take it as a product not donation?
L290[15:04:41] <i_develo​p_things> shrugs
L291[15:09:14] <Amanda> why do donations need to have benifits?
L292[15:12:55] <Lizzy> discord nitro is a subscription, not a donation
L293[15:12:59] <ky​ngs> for the same reason why twitch subscription has benefits
L294[15:13:28] <ky​ngs> also when you sub to streamer you are basically donating the moneyz to him
L295[15:13:53] <Amanda> I disagree
L296[15:13:58] <Lizzy> donations imply that you're not doing it to get something back, and usually you don't 'donate' to coorperations
L297[15:14:13] <Amanda> donations also imply they're beholden to give it to you for free.
L298[15:14:26] <ky​ngs> okokokokok
L299[15:14:34] <ky​ngs> the another thing is
L300[15:14:40] <ky​ngs> discord needs to make money somehow
L301[15:14:49] <ky​ngs> and if it does not want to abuse user data
L302[15:14:51] <Lizzy> it's a monthly fee you pay in order to get access to higher upload limits, custom discriminator at the end of your name, emotes from other servers
L303[15:14:58] <Lizzy> yes, that's fair
L304[15:15:11] <ky​ngs> >ky​ngs: and if it does not want to abuse user …
L305[15:15:11] <ky​ngs> They need to have some kind of subscription
L306[15:15:11] <Lizzy> we weren't critisizing discord's way of making back some of the money
L307[15:15:18] <ky​ngs> Amanda is
L308[15:15:33] <ky​ngs> Tell me what would you sell on discord other than emote access or higher upload ?
L309[15:15:33] <Lizzy> no, she was critising you calling it a "donation"
L310[15:15:54] <ky​ngs> https://tinyurl.com/yeys3fye
L311[15:15:58] <Amanda> I don't much care for Discord in the first place, but trying to shove nitro down my troat every time I do use it is really annoying
L312[15:16:30] <Amanda> Lizzy: to be fair, I was criticising the fact they paywall using emojis from different guilds
L313[15:16:39] <Lizzy> true
L314[15:16:54] <ky​ngs> and honestly
L315[15:17:01] <ky​ngs> if it wasn't for those emotes
L316[15:17:05] <ky​ngs> noone would buy it
L317[15:17:43] <Amanda> I had a pop-up appear when I was doing a three-way ratio in a discord guild, saying if I wanted to use this emoji here I need to pay
L318[15:18:04] <Amanda> which like.. I wasnt even truing to use an emoji. Why would foo:bar:baz be parsed as an emoji
L319[15:18:37] <Amanda> and I wasn't even clear if the messsage was even sent int he first place, because int he chat log was a message reminding me abou tthe nitro "only visible to you"
L320[15:19:30] <ky​ngs> >Ama​nda: which like.. I wasnt even truing to us…
L321[15:19:30] <ky​ngs> Oh yes, that sucks, sometimes for some reason it parses anything in : as emoji
L322[15:19:50] <Amanda> because some server, somewhere, use those as custom emoji
L323[15:19:55] <Amanda> s/server/guild/
L324[15:19:55] <MichiBot> <Amanda> because some guild, somewhere, use those as custom emoji
L325[15:20:10] <ky​ngs> yeah it should only consider guilds you are inside
L326[15:20:56] <Amanda> I think they should have to be namespaced if you're going to be paying or them. like some_guild_copper or whatever
L327[15:21:23] <Amanda> inside that guild, sure justaccpet :copper: but on other guilds it should be namespaced
L328[15:23:05] <Lizzy> I'm on discord a lot these days because of the communities i'm a part of, and i only really use the nitro for it's emote-from-other-server functionality. pretty much exclusively for blobcat
L329[15:23:52] <M​GR> I use it for that and the file upload size
L330[15:24:22] <Lizzy> most of the time if i need to upload something, i just use my personal stuff for it
L331[15:28:43] <Elfi> I honestly don't like the prospect of giving Discord my money seeing as how it's directly responsible for the stagnation of my IRC network, so no blobcats for me
L332[15:29:23] <ky​ngs> Maybe discord is better than IRC :)
L333[15:29:30] <ThePi​Guy24> (it isnt)
L334[15:29:45] <ky​ngs> Well people switching from IRC to discord obviously think otherwise
L335[15:29:55] <Forec​aster> it's just more convenient
L336[15:29:59] <Forec​aster> it doesn't make it better
L337[15:31:51] <Lizzy> ^
L338[15:32:37] <Amanda> I've gone through at least a half-dozen clients in my 16+ years of being on IRC, discord actively bans you for using a non-offical client
L339[15:33:38] <ky​ngs> >Ama​nda: I've gone through at least a half-doze…
L340[15:33:38] <ky​ngs> yeah that kinda sucks
L341[15:33:49] <t20kdc> kyngs: or they need to be on Discord because people are on Discord, not IRC
L342[15:34:08] <ky​ngs> Well the result is the same
L343[15:34:16] <ky​ngs> they choose discord over IRC
L344[15:34:18] <t20kdc> point is that doesn't make Discord better
L345[15:34:26] <t20kdc> it just makes it the only viable option for those people
L346[15:35:12] <t20kdc> this isn't even the first time this sort of platform shift has happened
L347[15:35:19] <t20kdc> Anyone remember Skype?
L348[15:35:20] <Amanda> ^
L349[15:35:28] <Lizzy> burn it
L350[15:35:41] <Amanda> Skype, AIM, MSN
L351[15:36:02] <t20kdc> Discord is just the next one in the line, and keeping that firmly in mind, there will be platforms after Discord that take over
L352[15:37:34] <Lizzy> I think Microsoft were recently aquiring discord? I didn't really bother to follow the news on that because a lot of the outcry was that "MS will destroy it" as if MS would make it fundamentally more worse that it already is (in terms of nitro and stuff).
L353[15:37:52] <ky​ngs> "I think Microsoft were recently aquiring discord?" They tried to
L354[15:39:20] <Lizzy> Guilded seems to be something that could be in a good-ish sport to potentially absorb most of the Discord userbase if discord ever properly shat the bed that even the average Joe wanted out, though i haven't used it much myself outside of my little test stuff and it seems like they're mainly banking on the "we're like discord, but with more" look
L355[15:39:21] <Lizzy> right now
L356[15:40:22] <Lizzy> though I think guilded sorta more blurs the lines between discord and old-school (well, relatively anyway) forum threads/BBS'
L357[15:40:32] <Bene​dani> discord said they aren't, for now
L358[15:40:33] <Bene​dani> https://www.theverge.com/2021/4/20/22394106/discord-no-sale-microsoft
L359[15:42:23] <Lizzy> ah, ok
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L361[15:42:58] <Amanda> apparently people think it was all a ploy to booster their IPO
L362[15:43:17] <Amanda> which, I'd be unsusprised
L363[15:43:32] <Lizzy> eh, there's probably some truth to that
L364[15:45:15] <Lizzy> I sometimes wonder if a decentralised version of discord would ever be a thing. then I realise that the average internet citizen likely isn't going to go for the option that offers "more freedom for customization" and just go for the simple option
L365[15:45:57] <Izaya> I for one am all for discord not making any money at all and folding
L366[15:46:19] <Izaya> Lizzy: XMPP and Matrix do what you say to varying degrees
L367[15:47:15] <Lizzy> though i think that's a limiting factor of most decentralised versions of social media platforms. a large majority of people either don't want to or don't care to learn how to set up stuff and if they sign up to an instance that (for one reason or another) doesn't sync with another, then they're going to assume the whole concept is shit and find a
L368[15:47:16] <Lizzy> simpler alternative
L369[15:47:21] <i_develo​p_things> i'm in a bunch of communities and a few DMs with friends on discord that it would at the very least be an inconvenience to lose
L370[15:47:44] <i_develo​p_things> just make decentralization more reliable smh
L371[15:48:23] <Amanda> Same thing was the case in Skype, in MSN, in AIM, in... A chat app lives and dies just as much by their users as by their features.
L372[15:48:51] <Amanda> There's several people I know who I could only ever contact on IRC
L373[15:49:34] <Lizzy> though who knows, maybe i'm wrong and in a few years a discord-like decentralised platform will come out and there'll be enough variety that it 'seems' like it's one big entitiy or something
L374[15:50:42] <Te​ris> I like Discord better than IRC and that's all I have to say
L375[15:52:05] <Lizzy> regardless of any sort of service though, unless you're the admin of said service, you're still bound by the rules of whatever it is you're using. even if they're stupid rules
L376[15:52:54] <Forec​aster> No shoes no service
L377[15:53:04] <Forec​aster> MichiBot disintegrates everyones shoes
L378[15:53:15] <Lizzy> anyway, i've exceeded my usual quota for talking in irc now so i'ma go procrastinate for the next 7 minutes till work is done
L379[15:53:22] <i_develo​p_things> walks in wearing only shoes
L380[15:54:10] <Forec​aster> I wish I could work on MichiBot but I can't figure out what happened to my dev environment...
L381[15:59:18] <Forec​aster> I just lithobraked using a planet from Supercruise speed...
L382[15:59:20] <Forec​aster> and lived
L383[16:02:43] <n​il> %sip
L384[16:02:43] <MichiBot> You drink a fragrant aqua potion (New!). nil is suddenly wearing a tiny glove on each finger.
L385[16:02:51] <n​il> uh
L386[16:03:35] <Z0id​berg> %6502 A9 4C 8D 20 DO 00
L387[16:04:15] <n​il> test
L388[16:04:17] <n​il> oh
L389[16:04:18] <n​il> it works
L390[16:04:33] <n​il> i thought it didnt send my messages
L391[16:04:43] <Z0id​berg> It didn't
L392[16:04:47] <Z0id​berg> reboot computer and try again
L393[16:04:50] <n​il> what if i do
L394[16:04:53] <n​il> what if i done/ [Edited]
L395[16:04:55] <n​il> o
L396[16:05:00] <n​il> discord is doing it by itself
L397[16:05:05] <n​il> I wrote `s/do/done/`
L398[16:05:07] <Z0id​berg> what fi you can't type for shit.
L399[16:05:12] <Z0id​berg> LOL
L400[16:05:17] <Z0id​berg> like me
L401[16:06:01] <Amanda> I wonder how well this will work.. Told TLP not to suspend my hdd on AC, and wait 20m on battery
L402[16:06:23] <Amanda> Maybe that'll fix the random hangs I've been getting, since my /home is on the hdd
L403[16:07:25] <Amanda> %choose weekly update time?
L404[16:07:25] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: I'd advice against "weekly update time" right now.
L405[16:07:35] <Amanda> %remindme 24h weekly update time
L406[16:07:36] <MichiBot> I'll tell you "weekly update time" in 24h at 04/23/2021 04:07:36 PM
L407[16:07:36] <Inari> %pet Amanda
L408[16:07:37] <MichiBot> Inari flails at nothingness...
L409[16:07:41] <Inari> ok then
L410[16:08:00] <Amanda> I guess I don't exist anymore
L411[16:08:04] <Amanda> TIL
L412[16:12:47] <Z0id​berg> heh
L413[16:13:19] <Z0id​berg> pkill -9 tlp
L414[16:13:24] <Z0id​berg> problem solved
L415[16:14:29] <Z0id​berg> I have never used tlp before actually. Long as I can get 2 hours on battery I am a happy camper.
L416[16:14:30] <Amanda> @Z0idberg I'm not actually sure how the hell this even works, tlp's not currently running. I wonder if all this stuff's been moved into the kernel, and it just needs to configure the kernel, then return
L417[16:14:44] <Amanda> s/return/exit/
L418[16:14:44] <MichiBot> <Amanda> @Z0idberg I'm not actually sure how the hell this even works, tlp's not currently running. I wonder if all this stuff's been moved into the kernel, and it just needs to configure the kernel, then exit
L419[16:15:55] <Z0id​berg> Unless things have changed much since Linux 2.6, some kernel module generally does very minor ACPI stuff to handle that sort of thing.
L420[16:16:10] <Z0id​berg> but 2.6 was quite a while ago, despite the fact that the kernel itself hasn't chanegd much
L421[16:16:12] <Amanda> Well, given we're up to 5.12 now...
L422[16:16:45] <Z0id​berg> Back in the days of Linux 2.4... APM + PCI Hotplug was king and omg it sucked
L423[16:16:54] <Izaya> well this is a new one
L424[16:17:08] <Izaya> first book I've ever read that references imageboard (textboard?) posts
L425[16:17:21] <Izaya> like, in the references at the end of the book
L426[16:17:30] <Amanda> oh: https://linrunner.de/tlp/introduction.html#how-it-works
L427[16:17:33] <Z0id​berg> huh
L428[16:17:41] <Amanda> Yup, it fiddles with kernel values, probably using /sys
L429[16:17:59] <Z0id​berg> aha
L430[16:18:05] <Z0id​berg> so it must be mixing with ACPI and udev then
L431[16:18:26] <Z0id​berg> /sys and /proc are where a lot of magic happens
L432[16:18:49] <Amanda> yup
L433[16:19:04] <Z0id​berg> ACPI's userland stuff is usually in /proc/acpi, but there's tons of acpi weirdness in /sys I have found to do very odd things I didn't know my laptops could do
L434[16:19:26] <Z0id​berg> like blink the LED backlight
L435[16:21:57] <ThePi​Guy24> mm yes seizure mode
L436[16:22:33] <Vampyre> you can also sometimes find fun sensors and the likes on the i2c bus
L437[16:23:32] <Izaya> https://social.shadowkat.net/media/245cad601d7cbd3e589bae6bbcb18e72d47290bd4bc0cd70c056026f8b339639.png
L438[16:23:57] <Amanda> Vampyre: I'd be hesitent to probe thost though, AIUI a lot of the devices can get bricked if you send junk data
L439[16:25:00] <Izaya> shout-out to asus for refusing to run systemd
L440[16:25:07] <Izaya> on pain of death
L441[16:25:10] <Vampyre> ah, it'll be fine, what's the worst that can happen ;-)
L442[16:25:34] <Vampyre> you can loose a sensor which you now not use anyway
L443[16:25:41] <Vampyre> if that
L444[16:26:52] <Izaya> who was I talking to the other day about microsoft mantle raytracing via VKD3D/DXVK?
L445[16:27:09] <Izaya> 'cause https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=VKD3D-Proton-2.3
L446[16:27:56] <Z0id​berg> can we please just get rid of D3D?
L447[16:28:00] <Z0id​berg> and DX in general
L448[16:29:03] <Amanda> Well, that's not encuraging
L449[16:30:07] <Amanda> enabled thermald on her sometime yesterday, graph from the last 7 days: https://nc.ddna.co/s/QAr7r4qTNQopqm9
L450[16:30:30] <Izaya> I mean look at the upside
L451[16:30:44] <Izaya> D3D12 is just Microsoft rebranding Mantle
L452[16:37:41] <Bene​dani> I mean
L453[16:38:02] <Bene​dani> there's no reason for DirectX to exist in a world where OpenGL and Vulkan are available
L454[16:38:45] <ThePi​Guy24> i do wonder when microsoft will give up on dx
L455[16:39:00] <Bene​dani> yeah that's the thing, it's microsoft
L456[16:39:29] <Bene​dani> they will likely continue to push it and small brain humans will trust it as the only good graphics API
L457[16:39:50] <i_develo​p_things> vulkan > opengl > directx for the most part imo
L458[16:39:57] <i_develo​p_things> from what i've seen vulkan can be really fast
L459[16:45:12] <Amanda> @Benedani it /is/ the only good graphics API with most GPUs /in windows/ -- because MS does back-alley deals to make them not optimise OGL/Vulkan as much in their windows drivers
L460[16:46:43] <Bene​dani> I mean, that only makes Linux more convincing for emulation and non-DirectX titles
L461[16:48:09] <i_develo​p_things> DXVK is a pretty good stopgap i think
L462[16:49:16] <Bene​dani> not saying DirectX game support wasn't there either
L463[16:49:56] <Forecaster> %restart
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L467[16:50:20] <Bene​dani> but for OpenGL (aka what Minecraft, Godot engine and likely a bunch of more games use, idk I'm not a big games expert) if you're on an AMD GPU you can literally double performance by using Linux
L468[16:51:32] <Bene​dani> but for OpenGL (aka what Minecraft, Godot engine, emulators and likely a bunch of more games use, idk I'm not a big games expert) if you're on an AMD GPU you can literally double performance by using Linux [Edited]
L469[16:51:35] <Bene​dani> (well idk if it's exactly double, but emulation is especially bad)
L470[16:52:18] <i_develo​p_things> i did some tests with BSL shaders on the same world on Windows 10 (when i had a working install) and on Linux (this was a while back to be fair) and performance was only marginally better under Linux
L471[16:52:22] <i_develo​p_things> didn't test without shaders
L472[16:52:56] <Bene​dani> mc?
L473[16:53:02] <i_develo​p_things> yes
L474[16:53:40] <Bene​dani> well tbh minecraft's rendering isn't exactly modern, it uses a lot of bad practices which makes it eat a lot of CPU rather than make use of your GPU
L475[16:53:46] <Bene​dani> sodium fixes that
L476[16:54:29] <Bene​dani> and ig 1.17 is also revamping rendering
L477[16:55:31] <i_develo​p_things> sodium is awesome
L478[16:55:58] <i_develo​p_things> lemme see if i can dig up my reddit post about it
L479[16:56:07] <Bene​dani> yep
L480[16:56:16] <Bene​dani> hundreds of fps on a 2gb phenom machine
L481[16:56:38] <i_develo​p_things> quite... phenomenal
L482[16:58:25] <Bene​dani> but yeah I wanna see sodium amd gpu OS comparison
L483[16:58:35] <Bene​dani> only got nvidias tho, and uhh, can't exactly get a gpu rn
L484[16:58:45] <i_develo​p_things> unfortunately i accidentally yeeted my Windows install a while ago
L485[16:59:04] <Bene​dani> unless someone has like $2k they would be willing to generously donate
L486[17:07:22] <Forec​aster> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkTK4F7Xqqo
L487[17:07:23] <MichiBot> Air Powered Helicopter | length: 14m 14s | Likes: 2,909 Dislikes: 32 Views: 23,312 | by Tom Stanton | Published On 22/4/2021
L488[17:09:24] <Va​ur> %tonkout
L489[17:09:26] <MichiBot> Boo-yah! Va​ur! You beat your own previous record of 2 hours, 25 minutes and 4 seconds (By 21 minutes and 55 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L490[17:09:27] <MichiBot> Va​ur has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.002 tonk points! plus 0.002 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 0.9113824, Position #1
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L493[17:20:05] <Va​ur> %sip
L494[17:20:07] <MichiBot> You drink a mutable void potion (New!). Vaur turns into a bombastium sloth girl until they have an apple.
L495[17:51:07] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L496[17:51:08] <MichiBot> Jiminy Cricket! Compan​ionCube! You beat Va​ur's previous record of <0 (By 41 minutes and 43 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L497[17:51:09] <MichiBot> CompanionCube's new record is 41 minutes and 43 seconds! CompanionCube also gained 0.0007 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need 0.0446614 more points to pass Va​ur!
L498[17:57:10] <CompanionCube> %drink
L499[17:57:10] <MichiBot> You drink a woolly adamantium potion (New!). CompanionCube's skin turn the color of dalekanium until they have An Eroded Avesmingo potion.
L500[17:57:35] <CompanionCube> %drink eroded avesmingo potion
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L502[18:02:09] <Amanda> Goddesses above, how is it 2021 and DEs still havn't learnt not to saturate the disk pipes with a local file search utility!?
L503[18:02:38] <i_develo​p_things> just get a fast SSD, problem solved /s
L504[18:02:40] <Amanda> Here I was going nuts thinking I somehow seriously misconfigured tlp, just to finally get iotop running and see "baloo*" stuff using it
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L506[18:03:00] <Amanda> s/using it/at the top/
L507[18:03:00] <MichiBot> <Amanda> Here I was going nuts thinking I somehow seriously misconfigured tlp, just to finally get iotop running and see "baloo*" stuff at the top
L508[18:03:12] <i_develo​p_things> i would routinely kill baloo on my PBP because it'd eat all the system memory and cause a freeze
L509[18:03:41] <Amanda> memory's not the problem on my end, thankfully, but the damn disk was getting saturated to the point nothing worked
L510[18:04:01] <i_develo​p_things> much more of a problem on 4GB of memory :P
L511[18:04:07] <Amanda> true
L512[18:04:15] <i_develo​p_things> i allocated ~12GB of ZRAM and it was fine from then onward
L513[18:04:33] <Amanda> I still kinda want a pinetab to turn into a ereading-tablet, but meh
L514[18:36:14] <Forec​aster> %sip
L515[18:36:15] <MichiBot> You drink a porous chocolate potion (New!). Gravity reverses for Forecaster until they exit the room.
L516[18:36:23] <Forec​aster> ohno
L517[18:45:14] <Brisingr​Aerowing> The Baloo wiki page says the program has " a focus on providing a very small memory footprint".
L518[18:45:26] <Brisingr​Aerowing> I guess that may not be accurate.
L519[18:45:35] <Brisingr​Aerowing> Or a bug.
L520[18:47:29] <Amanda> I mean. I doubt they're really meant to saturate a hdd's connection, either,but...
L521[18:47:45] <Bene​dani> %sip weird strange potion
L522[18:47:47] <MichiBot> You drink a fluffy crimson potion (New!). After the first sip the potion poofs away.
L523[18:47:55] <Bene​dani> oh
L524[18:52:22] <Forec​aster> the command expects an appareance and a consistency plus the word potion, if either is missing it will use random ones
L525[19:06:47] <n​il> %tonk
L526[19:06:48] <MichiBot> Dagnabbit! n​il! You beat Compan​ionCube's previous record of 41 minutes and 43 seconds (By 33 minutes and 56 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L527[19:06:49] <MichiBot> nil's new record is 1 hour, 15 minutes and 39 seconds! nil also gained 0.00057 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #4. Need 0.21361954 more points to pass Forec​aster!
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L530[20:02:30] <bad at​ vijya> man
L531[20:02:36] <bad at​ vijya> i wanna use one (1) feature of C++
L532[20:02:40] <bad at​ vijya> but
L533[20:02:48] <bad at​ vijya> i don't wanna bloat the file size and compile time
L534[20:03:00] <bad at​ vijya> maybe i'll just rewrite foxctl in lua
L535[20:42:14] <t20kdc> which feature?
L536[20:46:39] <bad at​ vijya> lists, i know i can make them in C but i'm lazy as hell
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L538[20:48:39] <t20kdc> have you tried libgc
L539[20:48:49] <t20kdc> then you can just forget about freeing them
L540[20:49:10] <t20kdc> or do you need appending & insertion
L541[20:50:12] <t20kdc> ...the C list iceberg, "cons cells" is in there somewhere
L542[20:50:29] <Amanda> %choose early rainbox?
L543[20:50:29] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Why would you do that when you could do something else instead?
L544[20:57:14] <bad at​ vijya> appending and insertion
L545[21:00:39] <Forec​aster> %sip
L546[21:00:41] <MichiBot> You drink a resonating aluminium potion (New!). A bunch of people in white coats approach Forecaster. Forecaster successfully evade the people! (13 vs DC 12)
L547[21:00:50] <Forec​aster> Barely
L548[21:09:59] <t20kdc> hmm. yeah, a few too many options... https://20kdc.duckdns.org/c-list-iceberg.png
L549[21:10:23] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L550[21:10:23] <MichiBot> Yow! Compan​ionCube! You beat n​il's previous record of 1 hour, 15 minutes and 39 seconds (By 47 minutes and 56 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L551[21:10:24] <MichiBot> CompanionCube's new record is 2 hours, 3 minutes and 35 seconds! CompanionCube also gained 0.0016 (0.0008 x 2) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need 0.0430614 more points to pass Va​ur!
L552[21:15:35] <ThePi​Guy24> i keep having cursed ideas for software projects but my brain keeps deleting them as they are too cursed :p
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L554[21:18:54] <bad at​ vijya> i'm working on cursed software
L555[21:18:57] <bad at​ vijya> :)
L556[21:19:31] <bad at​ vijya> "what if most of the kernel was runtime compiled"
L557[21:19:52] <i_develo​p_things> what is this for
L558[21:19:57] <i_develo​p_things> also that sounds like templeOS
L559[21:20:07] <t20kdc> it does sound like TempleOS, depending on your definition of "kernel"
L560[21:22:08] <bad at​ vijya> @idevelopthings research purposes
L561[21:22:15] <bad at​ vijya> that's basically it
L562[21:22:22] <i_develo​p_things> i mean
L563[21:22:24] <bad at​ vijya> very much a "how feasible is this" sort of thing
L564[21:22:32] <i_develo​p_things> is it for like, a real world computer or for OC
L565[21:22:37] <bad at​ vijya> oh, real world computer
L566[21:23:27] <i_develo​p_things> what if this https://tinyurl.com/yey65jbk
L567[21:23:31] <i_develo​p_things> and this https://tinyurl.com/yfzpgw7r
L568[21:23:35] <bad at​ vijya> currently working on a foxfs util since i decided "if i'm making my own kernel, it's gonna use foxfs"
L569[21:24:05] <bad at​ vijya> also, yeah, i could do that but
L570[21:24:10] <bad at​ vijya> very much, for this util
L571[21:24:12] <bad at​ vijya> i don't care
L572[21:24:15] <bad at​ vijya> in the kernel, i will care
L573[21:24:17] <i_develo​p_things> :P
L574[21:24:20] <bad at​ vijya> but this is for a util
L575[21:24:30] <i_develo​p_things> (disclaimer: code is untested and probably very broken)
L576[21:25:47] <Vampyre> what would be the use of a runtime compiled kernel?
L577[21:25:59] <bad at​ vijya> good question
L578[21:26:15] <bad at​ vijya> probably would make it easier to patch
L579[21:26:37] <Vampyre> I'm sure it's possible, but I can't think of any where it would make sense ;-)
L580[21:26:46] <bad at​ vijya> me neither
L581[21:26:53] <bad at​ vijya> 👍
L582[21:27:07] <bad at​ vijya> i'm still gonna do it because it's very much a "this seems neat" sort of thing
L583[21:27:36] <Vampyre> maybe some dynamic adaptable thing running on very low memory
L584[21:27:47] <Vampyre> dunno, grasping here ;-)
L585[21:28:52] <bad at​ vijya> i don't need a reason for it
L586[21:28:54] <bad at​ vijya> i guess it's just
L587[21:28:59] <bad at​ vijya> "i thought it was neat"
L588[21:29:26] <Vampyre> that it is, not questioning that ;-)
L589[21:29:44] <Vampyre> the fact you got me thinking about it proves it's interesting
L590[21:30:08] <Amanda> ... somehow I made the KDE Panel not appear on every desktop anymore?
L591[21:31:05] <Vampyre> if you have your ~/.config ina git tree, you could roll it back (if you don't have that, now is a good 5 minutes to set that up ;-))
L592[21:31:59] <Amanda> I think it's just a temporary thing, I thinkk it happen when I unticked "Show on all desktops" on one of the popups it showed
L593[21:33:16] <Amanda> Yeah, restarting plasmashell fixed it
L594[21:33:40] <Vampyre> having cconfig in a git tree is still a good idea
L595[21:33:48] <Vampyre> just for future you ;-)
L596[21:33:53] <Amanda> Most of my important config stuff is handled by home-manager
L597[21:34:19] <Amanda> %choose not-as-early rainbox?
L598[21:34:19] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Hm. I can't choose. Ask me again in a couple of minutes.
L599[21:34:30] * Amanda decides not-as-early rainbox
L600[21:35:49] * Amanda steals Inari's towels, puts them in the rain box to lay on while she relaxes
L601[21:50:22] <bad at​ vijya> https://tinyurl.com/yhngt5lt
L602[21:50:24] <bad at​ vijya> :)
L603[22:00:32] <bad at​ vijya> goddamnit
L604[22:00:43] <bad at​ vijya> i foresee HDD panic buying or some shit
L605[22:02:40] <bad at​ vijya> anyways, i need to pick up more HDDs soon™️
L606[22:02:45] <bad at​ vijya> for my server
L607[22:03:31] <bad at​ vijya> probably gonna get another fuckin DT01-V
L608[22:09:26] <bad at​ vijya> also a fuckton, and i mean a metric assload, of a MQ04 drives
L609[22:09:42] <bad at​ vijya> and probably a few pairs of other drives since i can use them for VMs
L610[22:23:34] <i_develo​p_things> well
L611[22:23:48] <i_develo​p_things> apparently when i overstress my RX 560 amdgpu dies
L612[22:23:55] <i_develo​p_things> that's nothing new but annoying af
L613[22:33:42] <Amanda> %choose waves?
L614[22:33:43] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Yes! Do it now!
L615[22:33:46] <Amanda> fine, fine
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L617[22:58:16] <Em​mi> fix that fox
L618[22:58:26] <Em​mi> kidnap it from the streets and repair it
L619[22:59:25] <Amanda> ? But inari's already getting kitnapped while she sleeps every night to get tested on with mutable potions.
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L622[23:07:58] <Amanda> %splash Inari with mutable redstone potiion
L623[23:07:59] <MichiBot> This doesn't seem to be a potion I recognize... Make sure it has an appearance and consistency keyword, and the word "potion" in it.
L624[23:08:02] <Amanda> %splash Inari with mutable redstone potion
L625[23:08:08] <Amanda> rude.
L626[23:08:20] <Amanda> %splash Inari with mutable redstone potion
L627[23:08:20] <MichiBot> You fling a mutable redstone potion (New!) that splashes onto Inari. Inari turns into a black crocodile girl until someone stops looking at them.
L628[23:08:35] * Amanda activates the livestream to Times Square
L629[23:11:57] <Vampyre> Amanda, to copy the storagecli thing, do I need anything else beside /usr/lib, /usr/bin and the minitel.lua in rc?
L630[23:12:15] <Vampyre> or does it not automagically work with linked cards to another dimension?
L631[23:12:16] <Amanda> Vampyre: did I not leave the installer floppy anywhere?
L632[23:12:35] <Vampyre> no idea, where would it be if you left it? ;-)
L633[23:12:37] <Amanda> It should work with linked cards, as minitel does
L634[23:12:47] <Amanda> The computer crate you left in my apt.
L635[23:12:53] <Amanda> I'll pop in later if it's notthere
L636[23:12:55] <Vampyre> k, let me check
L637[23:14:26] <Amanda> the minitel daemon might need a restart if you added the linked card after booting,though
L638[23:15:37] <Vampyre> dunno if I rebooted, so let me try
L639[23:15:46] <Vampyre> no floppy btw, just empty ones
L640[23:16:50] <Amanda> booting up now
L641[23:19:19] <bad at​ vijya> yee haw
L642[23:19:23] <bad at​ vijya> aso
L643[23:19:26] <bad at​ vijya> also, rather
L644[23:19:29] <bad at​ vijya> anyways, turns out
L645[23:19:52] <bad at​ vijya> people try to install zorya from read only media and it causes the installer to die
L646[23:19:59] <bad at​ vijya> i really should make a cool graphical installer
L647[23:19:59] <bad at​ vijya> but
L648[23:20:00] <bad at​ vijya> meh
L649[23:20:21] <bad at​ vijya> soon™️
L650[23:20:32] <Vampyre> Amanda, rebooting server got me further, now it crashes somewhere else ;-)
L651[23:21:09] <Vampyre> also, the storage system does not work with normal tier 3 pcs anymore, it needs tier 3 servers...
L652[23:21:48] <Amanda> yeah.... I've not been in much of a code mood lately, so that'll probably remain the case. :P
L653[23:24:32] <bad at​ vijya> hm
L654[23:24:38] <bad at​ vijya> i wonder how foxfs will work in OC
L655[23:24:42] <bad at​ vijya> 4MB...hm
L656[23:24:57] <bad at​ vijya> wonder if i'll run out of inodes
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L658[23:29:17] <bad at​ vijya> 🤔
L659[23:29:30] <bad at​ vijya> anyways, now i gotta work on mkfox and foxio
L660[23:29:40] <bad at​ vijya> since mkfox depends on foxio for wacky inode allocation stuff
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