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L1[00:27:13] <Amanda> %choose en or jp
L2[00:27:13] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: The sands of time whisper to me... they're saying "jp".
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L5[01:29:17] <Izaya> Ariri: https://pleroma.paritybit.ca/objects/60427f79-f2e0-4898-ab91-f9eac36fa8a9
L6[01:47:10] <bad at​ vijya> fuck
L7[01:47:22] <bad at​ vijya> i have to write a thing to stitch textures together
L8[01:48:45] <20​kdc> advisory: unless you need to write it in a specific language, do it in Python
L9[01:49:53] <20​kdc> see: https://github.com/20kdc/game-off-2020/blob/master/source_blend/assembly.py
L10[01:53:37] <bad at​ vijya> @20kdc i'm writing all my tools in lua
L11[01:53:46] <bad at​ vijya> which, really, doesn't make it that hard
L12[01:54:04] <bad at​ vijya> since i can store the temp texture as a list of strings
L13[01:54:16] <bad at​ vijya> and just keep adding to it
L14[01:54:41] <bad at​ vijya> since 99% of my source textures will already be power of 2
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L19[04:22:51] * Amanda looks angerly at the tireds main that just burst above Elfi and herself, turns off it's for and grooms until she passed out
L20[04:22:55] <Amanda> Night nerds
L21[04:23:45] <Amanda> Judging from when Ive been waking up, tomorrow's going to suck
L22[04:24:15] <Amanda> Oh well, that's a pellet
L23[04:24:33] <Amanda> Problem* for future Amanda
L24[04:24:38] * Amanda zzzmews
L25[04:26:28] <Forec​aster> %tonk
L26[04:26:29] <MichiBot> Zounderkite! Forec​aster! You beat Compan​ionCube's previous record of 6 hours, 36 minutes and 45 seconds (By 16 minutes and 25 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L27[04:26:30] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 6 hours, 53 minutes and 10 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.00189 (0.00027 x 7) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #3. Need 0.23369015 more points to pass Compan​ionCube!
L28[04:27:11] <CompanionCube> ....dammit;
L29[04:32:00] * Elfi zzz, much too small to carry all these tireds
L30[04:38:29] <Forec​aster> https://i.imgur.com/pOhj7YB.jpg
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L33[06:01:16] <Ariri> a
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L36[06:57:00] <CompanionCube> %drink
L37[06:57:01] <MichiBot> You drink a gloomy coral potion (New!). CompanionCube's favourite hat suddenly disintegrates.
L38[06:57:09] <CompanionCube> :(
L39[07:04:34] <n​il> %sip
L40[07:04:34] <MichiBot> You drink a diluted grass potion (New!). Dramatic music briefly plays in the distance.
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L45[09:01:16] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L46[09:30:00] <El​der> %sip
L47[09:30:01] <MichiBot> You drink a powdery coralcreep potion (New!). Elder's favourite hair is suddenly on fire.
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L49[09:57:23] <Va​ur> %sip
L50[09:57:25] <MichiBot> You drink a sweet moonstone potion (New!). It tastes salty.
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L52[10:21:39] <El​der> Dang it
L53[10:22:00] <El​der> Move that damn irc to another channel
L54[10:22:29] <Forec​aster> no?
L55[10:22:36] <Izaya> Discord users get >>>/out/
L56[10:25:28] <Forec​aster> https://tinyurl.com/yfbb8e2f
L57[10:30:06] <Elfi> Respect the OG #OC
L58[10:32:19] <dequbed> Do you think somebody made a nail polish with Stuart Semple's PINK pigment?
L59[10:35:39] <Izaya> someone probably did
L60[10:35:42] <Elfi> Oh, all but certain
L61[10:35:57] <Izaya> hey that super black pigment would be unsafe because of how much heat it absorbs right?
L62[10:36:04] <dequbed> I haven't found a seller yet. ~new project~ :3
L63[10:36:25] <dequbed> Izaya: Nah, the surface of your fingernail is waaaay to small for that to be a problem.
L64[10:36:31] <Izaya> oh that's good
L65[10:36:38] <dequbed> You can't get Vantablack though
L66[10:36:51] <Elfi> There are other superblacks out there these days
L67[10:37:00] <dequbed> I know
L68[10:37:02] <Izaya> https://social.shadowkat.net/xmpp/upload/lSZ44VkWNu8nc2B0/1618650051185.jpg
L69[10:37:09] <dequbed> But afaik none surpassing vantablack just yet.
L70[10:37:11] <dequbed> Sadly.
L71[10:37:20] <Elfi> But yes, gothier than goth nail polish would be sweet
L72[10:37:21] <dequbed> I would go for some "to black for brains to comprehend" nails
L73[10:37:34] <dequbed> s/"to/"too/
L74[10:37:35] <MichiBot> <dequbed> I would go for some "too black for brains to comprehend" nails
L75[10:37:57] <dequbed> Oh god how scary would that look as lipgloss? :D
L76[10:38:11] <ThePi​Guy24> soot is a good substitute for vantablack
L77[10:38:18] <Forec​aster> when you gaze long into the fingernail, the fingernail also gazes into you
L78[10:38:23] * dequbed goes to search for foodsafe ultrablacks
L79[10:38:28] <dequbed> TPG24 lol no.
L80[10:45:53] <dequbed> Elfi: So a) Stuart sells Black 3.0 which is at two nines and a simple pigment b) There's a company in Germany claiming 4 nines absorption. I think this just became a thing :D
L81[10:47:00] <Elfi> I was looking it up too, black 3.0 is only available as an acrylic paint AFAIK so I need to find an MSDS on the black magick pigment
L82[10:49:59] <dequbed> Best option would be BLACK 2.0 which should work and a good top coat. Only issue is it's kinda toxic so not good as lipstain
L83[10:50:14] <dequbed> .. and even worse as lipgloss
L84[10:53:51] <Elfi> Hope you can find better information than my cursory googlings
L85[10:59:34] <dequbed> I will report with progress as soon as I have made any :P
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L88[11:24:22] <Va​ur> %tonkout
L89[11:24:22] <MichiBot> Blast! Va​ur! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of 6 hours, 53 minutes and 10 seconds (By 4 minutes and 42 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L90[11:24:23] <MichiBot> Va​ur has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.006 tonk points! plus 0.005 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 0.8377024. Position #1
L91[11:26:15] <Va​ur> @MichiBot yes I'm happy
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L93[11:51:07] <n​il> thanks Vaur
L94[11:51:17] <n​il> waiting 7 hours is meh
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L97[12:16:59] <Vampyre> !coffee
L98[12:17:14] <Vampyre> %drink coffee
L99[12:17:14] <MichiBot> Vam​pyre: Vampyre has some coffee. It's hot and bitter.
L100[12:19:59] <Kit​oko> i dont like coffee
L101[12:24:24] <Forec​aster> %tonk
L102[12:24:25] <MichiBot> Dagnammit! Forec​aster! You beat Va​ur's previous record of <0 (By 1 hour and 2 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L103[12:24:26] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 1 hour and 2 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.001 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #3. Need 0.23269015 more points to pass Compan​ionCube!
L104[12:34:14] <n​il> %sip
L105[12:34:15] <MichiBot> You drink a fiery stainless steel potion (New!). When nil brings the bottle down they see A Red plastic flamingo. It stares into their soul.
L106[12:39:07] <Em​mi> i have a question
L107[12:39:11] <Em​mi> what the fuck is a tonk
L108[12:39:31] <dequbed> %tonkleaders
L109[12:39:32] <MichiBot> https://michibot.pc-logix.com/tonk
L110[12:39:38] <dequbed> @Emmi ^ is explained there
L111[12:41:10] <dequbed> %drink coffee to spite the haters
L112[12:41:10] <MichiBot> This doesn't seem to be a potion I recognize... Make sure it has an appearance and consistency keyword, and the word "potion" in it.
L113[12:41:19] <dequbed> ffs Michibot
L114[12:41:24] <dequbed> %drink coffee
L115[12:43:46] <Kit​oko> i spite coffee lovers by going to a cafe and asking for apple juice
L116[12:44:17] <Kit​oko> i get weird looks every time and it makes me gigggle
L117[12:44:24] <Forec​aster> that seems pointless
L118[12:45:42] <dequbed> Apart from the fact that a cafe nowadays serves more than coffee, the cafe apprechiates your business and no coffee-lovers will be spited :P
L119[12:48:25] <Vampyre> hating coffee means more for me
L120[12:48:35] <Vampyre> completely fine situation
L121[12:50:09] <Em​mi> tea
L122[12:50:46] <dequbed> Do we have %drink tea
L123[12:56:59] <Forec​aster> hmmm https://tinyurl.com/yg828rkr
L124[12:57:06] <Forec​aster> do I dare attempt to pick this up...
L125[13:00:01] <Forec​aster> well, apparently I can't
L126[13:01:03] <Va​ur> %sip
L127[13:01:04] <MichiBot> You drink a simulated tuna potion (New!). There's an acidic tinge to the potion... A label on the bottle reads "Who needs internal organs anyway?". Vaur takes 3d​6 => [4,5,6] acid damage.
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L130[13:21:17] <Bene​dani> %consume
L131[13:21:17] <MichiBot> You drink a rather citrus potion (New!). Benedani turns into a pig golem girl until they see a star fall.
L132[13:33:13] <Inari> nep
L133[13:40:14] <Vampyre> well, stars can't fall, so... seems you're stuck now ;-)
L134[13:40:30] <Forec​aster> yes they can
L135[13:40:37] <Forec​aster> a star can fall into a black hole
L136[13:40:54] <Vampyre> a star will be ripped apart by a black hole, it won't fall
L137[13:41:08] <Vampyre> stars can never fall
L138[13:41:27] <Forec​aster> nothing said it had to remain in one piece while falling
L139[13:41:29] <Vampyre> it needs to stop dead in it's orbit to do so
L140[13:41:43] <Izaya> would it not fall towards a large enough black hole?
L141[13:41:54] <Izaya> without tearing until it basically collided
L142[13:42:03] <Vampyre> if you count spiraling in as falling, then I guess
L143[13:42:39] <Vampyre> you don't collide with black holes, they tear you up or you burn just before the event horizon
L144[13:43:02] <Izaya> stars don't really have a surface, so whether they can actually collide is somewhat of a question too
L145[13:43:14] <Vampyre> yeah, also very good point ;-)
L146[13:45:25] <Forec​aster> "falling" is just being noticeably affected by the gravity of another body
L147[13:45:35] <Forec​aster> even being in orbit might count
L148[13:47:01] <Vampyre> and landing would then be being stopped falling by said object? ;-)
L149[13:47:24] <Lord​MZTE> how to make a noteblock connected using an adapter play its note?
L150[13:47:44] <Forec​aster> I haven't said anything about landing
L151[13:48:45] <Vampyre> is note_block.trigger a thing?
L152[13:49:04] <Forec​aster> @LordMZTE if there isn't a method for it then I'd guess you have to do it with a redstone signal
L153[13:49:12] <Vampyre> well, landing is important too if we are talking about faling :-p
L154[13:50:03] <Forec​aster> it's not important to me in this instance
L155[13:52:01] <dequbed> Can a 'star' fall into a black hole? Yes totally, but it will be rather violent and the star will be well and proer spaghettified before even reaching anywhere close to the even horizon. But most of the stars mass will make it into the black hole eventually, making that very much something I would call "falling into".
L156[13:52:55] <Izaya> mmm
L157[13:52:59] <Izaya> fusion spaghetti
L158[13:53:10] <Vampyre> but nothing from the structure of the original star remains, so is it the star falling in? or the sta material falling in?
L159[13:53:19] <Vampyre> star*
L160[13:53:44] <dequbed> Vampyre: Nothing falling into a black hole keeps structure. A black hole has no hair*.
L161[13:54:03] <Vampyre> exactly, so I stand by stars don't fall ;-)
L162[13:54:13] <Vampyre> and especially not into black holes
L163[13:54:44] <dequbed> That makes your definition very useless.
L164[13:55:00] <Vampyre> my definition of what?
L165[13:55:22] <dequbed> of "falling into a black hole"
L166[13:55:32] <Vampyre> I didn't define that?
L167[13:55:47] <Vampyre> I at most defined "star falling into a black hole"
L168[13:55:50] <dequbed> I ... uh. You know what, nevermind.
L169[13:56:33] <Va​ur> %tonk
L170[13:56:33] <MichiBot> Wah! Va​ur! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of 1 hour and 2 seconds (By 32 minutes and 5 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L171[13:56:34] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 1 hour, 32 minutes and 8 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.00106 (0.00053 x 2) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.
L172[14:00:10] <Vampyre> actualy, I'm wrong, there is 1 star definatly falling into a black hole, that's the star causing the black hole to appear in the first place
L173[14:00:25] <Vampyre> so, seeing a supernovae is seeing a star fall ;-)
L174[14:00:30] <dequbed> But that one doesn't keep it's structure either ...
L175[14:00:54] <Vampyre> you don't know that, most of the star's core is already inside the event horizon when it forms
L176[14:01:01] <Vampyre> and that still has structure
L177[14:01:10] <Vampyre> we don't know if it keeps it structure though
L178[14:01:14] <dequbed> But the singularity doesn't.
L179[14:01:17] <Forec​aster> once I can compile MichiBot again I need to add a "you see a star fall" effect
L180[14:01:28] <Vampyre> you don't know if the singularity is even a real thing
L181[14:01:36] <Vampyre> nobody does, that's all speculation
L182[14:02:27] <dequbed> Yeah but our physics implies it exists, all our observation make sense with singularities and physics without singularities would require us to rewrite just about every theory out there.
L183[14:02:49] <Vampyre> no no no no no no...
L184[14:02:49] <dequbed> So I'm going with "singularities exist and we can describe them" as the safer bet.
L185[14:02:50] <Vampyre> just
L186[14:02:51] <Vampyre> no
L187[14:02:53] <Vampyre> ok :-p
L188[14:03:10] <Vampyre> but to each their own interpetation ;-)
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L190[14:03:17] <dequbed> Nah, not really.
L191[14:03:23] <dequbed> How do you describe black holes?
L192[14:03:45] <Vampyre> depends on the theory, but the most usefull is GM
L193[14:04:15] <Vampyre> GR*
L194[14:04:42] <Vampyre> but we both know already that GR is wrong in that regard
L195[14:05:00] <dequbed> Do try to explain them in your own words :)
L196[14:05:10] <Vampyre> eh?
L197[14:05:49] <Vampyre> ok, which one, eternal black holes like in GR or real ones like the ones we have in our universe?
L198[14:06:27] <dequbed> Well. If you say general relativity is the most useful theory to describe black holes, but at the same time there are no singularities I would be pleased to hear your explanation of black holes under general relativity.
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L200[14:06:55] <Vampyre> the eternal ones, see GR, the real ones... well.... that gets hairy, cause they actually don't aggree with GR. an event horizon in the reference frame of the age of the universe, combined with hawking radiation, means the black hole is not eternal
L201[14:07:02] <Vampyre> so... GR is wrong
L202[14:07:45] <Vampyre> but what I'm saying here is pretty much scientific consensus, so... nothing new
L203[14:07:56] <dequbed> Well of course GR is "wrong". Every theory is just an approximation of reality at this stage of science. That's an extremely unproductive way of looking at ... anything really.
L204[14:08:04] <Vampyre> no?
L205[14:08:07] <dequbed> yes?
L206[14:08:13] <Vampyre> of course not, that's science
L207[14:08:16] <Vampyre> we know we are wrong
L208[14:08:25] <Vampyre> we just don't know how yet ;-)
L209[14:08:33] <dequbed> Well no.
L210[14:08:46] <Vampyre> it's a very productive way, it has worked for 350 years already
L211[14:08:50] <dequbed> We *do* actually know how (or rather in which way) we're wront.
L212[14:08:56] <dequbed> wrong*
L213[14:09:19] <Vampyre> ok, this turned into philosophy
L214[14:09:44] <dequbed> GR for example can't work past singularities, doesn't work near the beginning of the universe as we understand it atm, and doesn't explain several forces that apparently probably exist.
L215[14:10:18] <Vampyre> yeah, as I already stated above, GR in the universe doesn't always work
L216[14:10:20] <dequbed> But going "GR is wrong so we can't use it to describe black holes" is absolutely unproductive. Because GR actually *can* describe black holes for the right situations.
L217[14:10:29] <dequbed> Notably: Being outside of one. As we are.
L218[14:10:37] <Vampyre> I never stated that? I explicitly stated the opposite?
L219[14:10:41] <dequbed> Excluding very long term effects such as Hawking radiation.
L220[14:10:47] <Vampyre> [16:03:44] <Vampyre> depends on the theory, but the most usefull is GM
L221[14:11:00] <dequbed> Vampyre: no no no no no no...
L222[14:11:01] <Vampyre> I clearly said it was the most usefull
L223[14:11:03] <dequbed> Sorry
L224[14:11:05] <dequbed> "Vampyre: no no no no no no..."
L225[14:11:19] <dequbed> You also stated that our physics don't imply singularities.
L226[14:11:34] <dequbed> s/singularities/singularities in black holes/g
L227[14:11:34] <MichiBot> <dequbed> You also stated that our physics don't imply singularities in black holes.
L228[14:11:46] <Vampyre> yes, that I said, it only iplies in interpetation
L229[14:11:57] <Vampyre> it's your interpetation that singularities clearly must exist
L230[14:11:59] <Vampyre> not mine
L231[14:12:08] <dequbed> Are you aware of occams razor?
L232[14:12:18] <Vampyre> no, completely unaware
L233[14:12:22] <Vampyre> please explain?
L234[14:13:49] <dequbed> In short: If we can not show something to be true or false and the truth of this thing in itself does not matter we should always chose the explanation that is the most fitting for all other observations.
L235[14:14:13] <Vampyre> btw, I have not been into a black hole's center and looked at the cubiq planck length volume exactly in the center, so I do not say anything with definate percision about that avolume of space
L236[14:14:16] <dequbed> i.e. makes the least assumptions outside of the thing itself.
L237[14:14:17] <Vampyre> you clearly do?
L238[14:14:43] <Vampyre> and of cource I know occams razor... I'm also a very sarcastic and cynical person
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L240[14:16:39] <dequbed> So; in this case: We can't under our current understanding definetively proove that singularities exist; that much *is* true. But at the same time assuming they do not exist *does* break a lot of our physics. So under occams razor it is very sensible to just accept that singularities exist and we can describe them in mathematical terms. Just going "we can't show it *directly* so nonoonono to singularitiers" isn't a good way of going about it.
L241[14:16:50] <dequbed> prove directly*
L242[14:17:07] <Vampyre> eeuh...
L243[14:17:38] <Vampyre> no.... the part of not assuming they exist breaking a lot of our phisics is bullcrap obviously
L244[14:17:45] <dequbed> why?
L245[14:17:54] <Vampyre> it breaks down in the center of black holes and on the big bang
L246[14:18:15] <Vampyre> that is not a whole lot of places we see singularities
L247[14:18:57] <Vampyre> we need QG and the likes for that, and the can work fine without singularities
L248[14:19:02] <Vampyre> they*
L249[14:19:45] <Vampyre> anywhere else in the universe we have QFM and GR to explain it all, and it works without any singularities
L250[14:19:55] <Vampyre> tensors fix that nicely
L251[14:42:44] <Amanda> I feel like vampyre and dequbed's earlier talk of black holes and stars falling is reminiscent of the ship of Theseus
L252[15:19:48] <Amanda> %choose halucinate or irradiate
L253[15:19:49] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: The proof is in the pudding. Definitely "irradiate". Now please get it out of my pudding.
L254[15:19:56] <Amanda> hrm, nah
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L259[16:18:41] <Forec​aster> %tonk
L260[16:18:42] <MichiBot> Blast! Forec​aster! You beat Va​ur's previous record of 1 hour, 32 minutes and 8 seconds (By 50 minutes)! I hope you're happy!
L261[16:18:43] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 2 hours, 22 minutes and 8 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.00166 (0.00083 x 2) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #3. Need 0.23103015 more points to pass Compan​ionCube!
L262[16:26:40] <Lord​MZTE> whats the best way to send a table over network in OC? to my knowledge it only works with strings right?
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L264[16:29:48] <Bene​dani> you'll have to encode it into a string then
L265[16:30:13] <Forec​aster> @LordMZTE yes, there is a serialization library
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L278[17:02:54] <Lord​MZTE> >Forec​aster: <@!221873457938300929> yes, there is a se…
L279[17:02:54] <Lord​MZTE> any docs on that lib?
L280[17:03:20] <Forec​aster> on the wiki
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L282[17:03:57] <Lord​MZTE> found it, thanks
L283[17:04:45] <Amanda> %choose space or trains
L284[17:04:46] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: "space", now with 30% fewer deaths caused by negligence!
L285[17:05:02] <Amanda> hrm. That's still an awful lot of deaths, I'll play with trains
L286[17:06:47] <Amanda> I still need to look into why my laptop's decided CPU thermal throttling is boring
L287[17:22:18] <Lord​MZTE> is it somehow possible to tell the lua language server about OC's APIs in order to make developing easier?
L288[17:23:55] <Forec​aster> what "language server"
L289[17:24:44] <n​il> sumneko lua probably
L290[17:24:45] <Lord​MZTE> im using this https://github.com/josa42/coc-lua nvim plugin, which seems to be using this https://github.com/sumneko/lua-language-server language server
L291[17:24:53] <n​il> yeah
L292[17:26:08] <n​il> you can make an ocdoc parser that'll generate declarations
L293[17:26:43] <Lord​MZTE> i think ive found the declarations (and implementations) in the OC source.
L294[17:27:12] <Lord​MZTE> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/blob/master-MC1.7.10/src/main/resources/assets/opencomputers/lua/machine.lua
L295[17:27:42] <n​il> the server needs only declarations, it'll warn you more if you just use that file I guess
L296[17:28:25] <Lord​MZTE> 1. how do i even make it use that? 2. theres gotta be a tool that turns that into declarations only.
L297[17:29:18] <n​il> 1. clone it from git and put a .lua file with declarations in meta/template
L298[17:29:31] <n​il> the declarations should include emmylua docs
L299[17:30:27] <n​il> 2. idk, I'd just scrape the docs
L300[17:33:06] <Lord​MZTE> meta/template in my project folder?
L301[17:38:57] <Lord​MZTE> so i guess no one's done this before?
L302[17:39:21] <Forec​aster> I haven't bothered
L303[17:39:24] <n​il> no, in the folder where you cloned language server
L304[17:39:48] <n​il> >Lord​MZTE: so i guess no one's done this before…
L305[17:39:48] <n​il> i might help ya, wait ~20min
L306[17:40:00] <n​il> i'll be coding a scraper probably
L307[17:40:01] <Forec​aster> I could probably convince IDEA to recognise the various OC libraries, but it's not really worth it
L308[17:40:03] <Lord​MZTE> nah, i guess i cant be bothered either then 😛
L309[17:40:09] <n​il> oh kk
L310[17:40:15] <n​il> then will do it just for myself
L311[17:40:42] <Lord​MZTE> just this very disappointing warning... 😛 https://tinyurl.com/ydvya4vz
L312[17:41:30] <Lord​MZTE> ...and is it seriously not possible to add libraries without changing the language server?
L313[17:42:09] <Forec​aster> that would depend on the program
L314[17:43:41] <Lord​MZTE> >nu​ll: then will do it just for myself
L315[17:43:41] <Lord​MZTE> still sounds really interesting tho, and if you write a scraper i'd definetely use it. but are you sure thats the best way? is the source code of the docs not available? or maybe you could process the in-game docs you have in the manual
L316[17:46:13] <Lord​MZTE> so this JEI page (whereever that is defined) https://tinyurl.com/ydje5t4o
L317[17:53:32] <ThePi​Guy24> dont you just hate it when you are trying to stick some cardboard together in a certain way but then realise it would require non euclidean geometry to acheive :/
L318[17:54:03] <Va​ur> %sip
L319[17:54:03] <MichiBot> You drink a fragrant naqahdah potion (New!). Vaur's bed is suddenly slightly less comfortable until their next sip of water.
L320[17:54:08] <t20kdc> implying you haven't mastered non-euclidean cardboard?
L321[17:54:21] <ThePi​Guy24> unfortunately i have not
L322[17:55:14] <t20kdc> if you imagine that a piece of cardboard is a two-dimensional surface, then cardboard is non-euclidean - you can, in the 3D space, fold and join it to itself in ways which do not make sense from a 2D perspective.
L323[18:09:28] <Forec​aster> %sip
L324[18:09:28] <MichiBot> You drink a slimy coralcreep potion (New!). Forecaster gains the ability to summon safety pins until they see a bird.
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L326[18:28:43] <Wat​tana> mind if i share a music?
L327[18:29:15] <Forec​aster> as long as it doesn't break the rules
L328[18:29:30] <Wat​tana> this music is pretty awesome https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=8Dz_v3vBd6E&feature=share
L329[18:29:31] <MichiBot> 僕たちの旅とエピローグ。 (Long ver.) | length: 6m 38s | Likes: 252 Dislikes: 5 Views: 12,556 | by Gabo Barranco - Topic | Published On 29/5/2020
L330[18:29:37] <n​il> i thought it'd be a rickroll
L331[18:30:09] <Wat​tana> if i post a rickroll here i'd probably be buried 6ft deep in the discord soil
L332[18:35:52] <n​il> yeah
L333[18:54:21] <Terf​usti> How do you connect to the irc?
L334[18:54:47] <B​ob> grab the irc floppy and see the magic happen
L335[18:54:53] <B​ob> maybe it needs installation on open os or something prob
L336[18:55:13] <Terf​usti> Ah I see, I'll check that out
L337[19:01:45] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER: should probably look into why the thermal CPU throttling isn't working
L338[19:15:43] <Va​ur> %tonk
L339[19:15:44] <MichiBot> Yikes! Va​ur! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of 2 hours, 22 minutes and 8 seconds (By 34 minutes and 53 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L340[19:15:45] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 2 hours, 57 minutes and 2 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.00174 (0.00058 x 3) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.
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L342[19:22:21] <Va​ur> %sip
L343[19:22:22] <MichiBot> You drink a basic caterium potion (New!). Vaur feels slightly stronger.
L344[19:22:40] <Bene​dani> %consume
L345[19:22:40] <MichiBot> You drink a warpy pear potion (New!). Benedani: Nothing seemed to happen...
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L349[21:08:48] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L350[21:08:48] <MichiBot> I'm sorry CompanionCube, you were not able to beat Vaur's record of 2 hours, 57 minutes and 2 seconds this time. 1 hour, 53 minutes and 4 seconds were wasted! Missed by 1 hour, 3 minutes and 58 seconds!
L351[21:28:25] <Kit​oko> i dont know why my event.ignore wont work when its the same exact phrase excelt with ignore instead of listen, i was considering asking for guidance
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L353[21:38:12] <Lord​MZTE> i made a little display and controller for my comically tiny reactor https://tinyurl.com/ye7fl23e
L354[21:47:44] <i_develo​p_things> nice
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L356[21:58:45] <Lord​MZTE> did someone make a library for progress bars yet?
L357[22:01:53] <ThePi​Guy24> progress bars have always been simple enough that noone really bothered making a lib for them, but that mineos gui library probably has one
L358[22:05:56] <Lord​MZTE> huh
L359[22:06:44] <i_develo​p_things> progress bar: `length of area to fill = (totalProgressBarWidth * (percentFull / 100))`, more or less
L360[22:06:53] <i_develo​p_things> then just fill the corresponding area
L361[22:06:58] <Lord​MZTE> yeah i know theyre simple
L362[22:07:27] <Lord​MZTE> just saying that you could actually go to quite some lengths with them. like if you wanted to make then variable width and length, or maybe even haxe more then 2 different colors
L363[22:07:32] <Lord​MZTE> or animations
L364[22:07:35] <Lord​MZTE> or patterns
L365[22:08:19] <Lord​MZTE> or text on them
L366[22:08:25] <Lord​MZTE> maybe with the inverse color of the background
L367[22:08:31] <ThePi​Guy24> i made one previously that used some unicode characters to have a smoother transition
L368[22:08:39] <Lord​MZTE> amazing!
L369[22:08:43] <ThePi​Guy24> idk where it is though
L370[22:09:24] <Lord​MZTE> is there some place where people share their libs?
L371[22:10:22] <ThePi​Guy24> there are some on openprograms but its definitely not what you would call a comprehensive list
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L373[22:43:51] <i_develo​p_things> yknow what
L374[22:43:59] <i_develo​p_things> i think ima pop back over to my RX 560 for now
L375[22:44:09] <i_develo​p_things> that's one too many things that just barely don't quite work
L376[22:44:49] <bad at​ vijya> `[ 2557.283721] MetroExodus[5567]: segfault at a8 ip 00007f9934c16da0 sp 00007fff4e807848 error 4 in libnvidia-glcore.so.465.24.02[7f9933a85000+16f8000]`
L377[22:44:55] <bad at​ vijya> nvidia'd once again
L378[22:45:02] <bad at​ vijya> true agony
L379[22:45:51] <Kristo​pher38> Playing on Linux?
L380[22:45:57] <bad at​ vijya> yea
L381[22:46:00] <bad at​ vijya> native version of the game
L382[22:46:17] <ThePi​Guy24> this is why novideo bad
L383[22:46:35] <ThePi​Guy24> hence the name
L384[22:48:37] <Izaya> apparently mexodus works on novideo cards but not AMD cards
L385[22:51:20] <bad at​ vijya> Izaya: You have to disable raytracing in the config
L386[22:51:47] <ThePi​Guy24> why is it on by default
L387[22:51:58] <bad at​ vijya> good question
L388[22:52:15] <ThePi​Guy24> only a small percentage have proprietary expensive esoteric crap
L389[22:54:19] <Izaya> to be fair
L390[22:54:24] <Izaya> vulkan raytracing was JUST standardised
L391[22:54:44] <Izaya> because the AMD drivers now contain an implementation for the latest 6xxx cards
L392[22:58:33] <bad at​ vijya> oh yeah, you also need AMD's raytracing libs, i guess
L393[22:58:52] <bad at​ vijya> a common crash on ubongo was not having `libnvidia-rtcore` installed
L394[23:00:35] <GreaseMonkey> if things are literally depending on the libnvidia-rtcore library directly then i think the solution really is to provide a wrapper library which has something like a 5 second intro saying "Raytracing provided by AMD" and that should be a good discouragement from directly tapping vendor libraries
L395[23:00:58] <Izaya> lmao
L396[23:01:41] <bad at​ vijya> i dunno why it caused the crash on ubongo but w/e
L397[23:01:51] <bad at​ vijya> i'm just looking at what people are saying on the forums
L398[23:04:47] <bad at​ vijya> wait
L399[23:04:48] <bad at​ vijya> what
L400[23:04:55] <bad at​ vijya> >speed 6071MHz
L401[23:04:56] <bad at​ vijya> what
L402[23:05:00] <bad at​ vijya> what is steam smoking
L403[23:05:10] <Izaya> well, either way, I should stick it on my wishlist now that it runs on a platform I use
L404[23:05:41] <Izaya> is it the same as last time using OpenGL (or now, Vulkan, by way of DXVK) to wrap DirectX?
L405[23:05:49] <bad at​ vijya> unsure
L406[23:06:27] <bad at​ vijya> anyways, i'm gonna play with BIOS settings
L407[23:12:06] <Terf​usti> How exactly do I listen for the `redstone_changed()` signal?
L408[23:13:38] <Izaya> event.pull("redstone_changed")
L409[23:16:09] <Kit​oko> i set up an event.listen call to listen for a touch event, then used a event.ignore and its failing to ignore the event call, to the point where it stops executing code after it, and im hoping someone has insight as to what's wrong
L410[23:16:35] <Izaya> post code
L411[23:18:40] <Kit​oko> how to copy it out?
L412[23:19:08] <i_develo​p_things> pastebin
L413[23:19:11] <i_develo​p_things> you need an internet card
L414[23:19:31] <Kit​oko> i can go install one sure
L415[23:20:24] <Va​ur> %tonkout
L416[23:20:26] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Va​ur, you were not able to beat Va​ur's record of 2 hours, 57 minutes and 2 seconds this time. 2 hours, 11 minutes and 38 seconds were wasted! Missed by 45 minutes and 23 seconds!
L417[23:21:08] <Va​ur> \facepalm
L418[23:22:19] <Kit​oko> ok, now i need some code to use to upload it
L419[23:22:26] <Izaya> pastebin put filename
L420[23:22:29] <Kit​oko> i'd assume by your statement it easily exists
L421[23:22:34] <Kit​oko> oh
L422[23:23:22] <Kit​oko> https://pastebin.com/bbJkjNwj
L423[23:23:24] <Kit​oko> success
L424[23:32:43] <bad at​ vijya> Izaya
L425[23:32:45] <bad at​ vijya> fuck
L426[23:32:46] <bad at​ vijya> anyways
L427[23:32:51] <Izaya> hi
L428[23:32:52] <bad at​ vijya> found my issue, the DKMS modules are broken
L429[23:33:06] <Izaya> :D
L430[23:35:47] <bad at​ vijya> fuck nvidia
L431[23:36:22] <ThePi​Guy24> novideo
L432[23:36:47] <Kristo​pher38> @Kitoko you need to pass id returned by event.listen to event.ignore
L433[23:36:53] <Kristo​pher38> in your case it would be `clicker`
L434[23:37:39] <bad at​ vijya> pain
L435[23:37:40] <bad at​ vijya> nevermind
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L437[23:40:56] <Kit​oko> oh so it accepts an ID not a string?
L438[23:41:57] <Kristo​pher38> oh wait a second, i'm wrong
L439[23:42:06] <Kit​oko> the wiki says event.ignore(event: string, callback: function): boolean
L440[23:42:10] <Kristo​pher38> mistook it for a timer id
L441[23:42:35] <Kit​oko> i dont know why it has to be different from cance
L442[23:42:39] <Kit​oko> i dont know why it has to be different from cancel [Edited]
L443[23:43:18] <Kit​oko> event.listen("touch", screenClick)
L444[23:43:18] <Kit​oko> event.ignore("touch", screenClick)
L445[23:43:24] <Kit​oko> this is what i had for each line
L446[23:44:01] <Kristo​pher38> yeah that should work
L447[23:44:52] <B​ob> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Hrn4pdV_ac
L448[23:44:52] <MichiBot> LittleTiles 1.5.0 | length: 7m 49s | Likes: 69 Dislikes: 0 Views: 249 | by CreativeMD | Published On 17/4/2021
L449[23:45:44] <Kristo​pher38> something might be getting fucked if you registered multiple event handlers for one event
L450[23:45:59] <Kristo​pher38> e.g. by ctrl+c exiting you application which didn't trigger event.ignore
L451[23:46:11] <Kristo​pher38> try rebooting first and see if the issue persists
L452[23:48:01] <Kit​oko> @Kristopher38 well it isnt
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L454[23:51:17] <B​ob> i never have used event.listen 🤔
L455[23:51:31] <B​ob> i see where i could but handling yourself is just simpler
L456[23:51:48] <bad at​ vijya> honestly having a major nvidia™️ shitcode moment
L457[23:53:53] <Kristo​pher38> @Bob god damn
L458[23:54:22] <B​ob> 😎
L459[23:55:05] <bad at​ vijya> regardless
L460[23:55:11] <bad at​ vijya> at least i get minutes of gameplay in
L461[23:55:13] <bad at​ vijya> instead of seconds
L462[23:57:01] <Kristo​pher38> >Kit​oko: i set up an event.listen call to listen for a…
L463[23:57:01] <Kristo​pher38> I don't quite get "it stops executing code after it"
L464[23:57:12] <Kristo​pher38> after which line
L465[23:58:52] <Kit​oko> right after the event.ignore call
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