L1[00:20:37] <Amanda> Izaya: it'd be any
utf-8 encodable glyph, wouldn't it? So more. At the cost of
complexity to encode / decode the chara
L2[00:21:12] 
<bad at
vijya> i mean hey
<bad at
vijya> i mean heyL3[00:21:26] <bad at
vijya> you can represent any UTF-8 encodable glyph with 3
bytes
<bad at
vijya> you can represent any UTF-8 encodable glyph with 3
bytesL4[00:21:28] <bad at
vijya> last i checked
<bad at
vijya> last i checkedL5[00:24:12] <Amanda> The gpu memory isn't
bytes, it's utf-8 glyphs
L7[00:39:36] <i_develop_things> just find the longest
UTF-8 glyph you can (is the longest valid one 8 bytes?)
<i_develop_things> just find the longest
UTF-8 glyph you can (is the longest valid one 8 bytes?)L8[00:43:36] <Izaya> 4, I think
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L10[00:54:10] <bad at
vijya> >Amanda: The gpu memory isn't bytes, it's utf-8
glyphs
<bad at
vijya> >Amanda: The gpu memory isn't bytes, it's utf-8
glyphsL11[00:54:10] <bad at
vijya> shhh
<bad at
vijya> shhhL12[01:03:24] ⇦
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L14[01:44:45] <Amanda> Technically just
unicode code points, but they're exposed to lua as utf-8
L15[01:58:55] *
Amanda checks Elfi for damage from her experiments with unknowable
logic, nods, satisfied, curls up and zzzmews
L16[01:59:04] <Amanda> Night nerds
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L18[02:22:04] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L19[02:22:05] <MichiBot> Potzblitz!
CompanionCube! You beat Vaur's previous record of <0 (By 5
hours, 37 minutes and 28 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L20[02:22:06] <MichiBot> CompanionCube's
new record is 5 hours, 37 minutes and 28 seconds! CompanionCube
also gained 0.00562 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2.
Need 0.0252614 more points to pass Vaur!
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L23[02:27:04] <Hacka> i
heard there was an oc2
<Hacka> i
heard there was an oc2L24[02:27:13] <Hacka>
where can i find deetales
<Hacka>
where can i find deetalesL25[02:34:09] ⇦
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L30[02:43:10] <Ariri>
>making a vapor wave edit
<Ariri>
>making a vapor wave editL31[02:43:16] <Ariri> am
i going to be hackerman
<Ariri> am
i going to be hackermanL32[03:41:47] ***
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L33[04:26:43] <CompanionCube> %drink
L34[04:26:44] <MichiBot> You drink a
seeping jumbonium potion (New!). CompanionCube's hair glows the
color of iron until they have A Goopy potion.
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L36[05:47:09] <MichiBot> Ariri REMINDER:
cursed thing, dark-themed cthulhu, space gura, TT watson, Tenta,
some memery, and black foxes
L37[06:03:30] <CompanionCube>
%tonkout
L38[06:03:30] <MichiBot> I'm sorry
CompanionCube, you were not able to beat CompanionCube's record
of 5 hours, 37 minutes and 28 seconds this time. 3 hours, 41
minutes and 25 seconds were wasted! Missed by 1 hour, 56 minutes
and 3 seconds!
L39[06:09:51] <Forecaster> %sip
<Forecaster> %sipL40[06:09:52] <MichiBot> You drink a porous
sapphire potion (New!). Forecaster remembers an important
appointment.
L41[06:10:08] <Forecaster> But I'm in bed D:
<Forecaster> But I'm in bed D:L42[06:38:31] <Forecaster> todays goal: get
ocinterfacedesigner back to fully operational
<Forecaster> todays goal: get
ocinterfacedesigner back to fully operationalL43[07:02:05] ⇦
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L44[08:18:33] <Benedani>
Hey y'all, I arrive here with a crazy idea
<Benedani>
Hey y'all, I arrive here with a crazy ideaL45[08:19:00] <Benedani>
basically, I found that you can run multiple computers on the same
screen
<Benedani>
basically, I found that you can run multiple computers on the same
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L47[08:19:45] <Benedani>
the idea would be to set up a bunch of dummy computers meant to
just draw to the screen, then the one you actually use would
somehow distribute calls to `require("component").gpu`
across these computers
<Benedani>
the idea would be to set up a bunch of dummy computers meant to
just draw to the screen, then the one you actually use would
somehow distribute calls to `require("component").gpu`
across these computersL48[08:20:25] <Benedani>
so like, how feasible would this be
<Benedani>
so like, how feasible would this beL49[08:21:19] <Forecaster> you can certainly do
that
<Forecaster> you can certainly do
thatL50[08:21:33] <Benedani>
has it been done?
<Benedani>
has it been done?L51[08:24:57] ⇨
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L53[08:31:06] <Forecaster> I don't know
<Forecaster> I don't knowL54[08:31:25] <Forecaster> the real question is, why do
you want to do that
<Forecaster> the real question is, why do
you want to do thatL55[08:33:41] <Benedani>
a single GPU is really slow at drawing characters to the screen,
and that isn't good with my ultimate goal of running games or
smth
<Benedani>
a single GPU is really slow at drawing characters to the screen,
and that isn't good with my ultimate goal of running games or
smthL56[08:33:58] <Benedani>
yeah ik I can just increase their power in the config but eh,
that's kinda cheating
<Benedani>
yeah ik I can just increase their power in the config but eh,
that's kinda cheatingL57[08:34:16] <Forecaster> you can have multiple gpus in
one computer
<Forecaster> you can have multiple gpus in
one computerL58[08:35:12] <Benedani>
just realised that I tried that but the limitation was that the OS
itself wasn't using the other GPU
<Benedani>
just realised that I tried that but the limitation was that the OS
itself wasn't using the other GPUL59[08:35:38] <Benedani>
so if I could make it distribute between the GPUs, well, that's
another option
<Benedani>
so if I could make it distribute between the GPUs, well, that's
another optionL60[08:36:02] <Benedani>
that actually means I have less computers to set up
<Benedani>
that actually means I have less computers to set upL61[08:36:03] <Forecaster> OpenOS uses one gpu and one
screen
<Forecaster> OpenOS uses one gpu and one
screenL62[08:36:10] <Benedani>
yeah
<Benedani>
yeahL63[08:37:22] <Benedani>
so where should I look if I want to implement a custom
"gpu" component that just distributes calls?
<Benedani>
so where should I look if I want to implement a custom
"gpu" component that just distributes calls?L65[08:58:54] <Benedani>
servers can also have 2 tier 3 GPUs
<Benedani>
servers can also have 2 tier 3 GPUsL66[09:09:44] <Kristopher38> Look, it won't matter
because the call budget is per computer, not per gpu
<Kristopher38> Look, it won't matter
because the call budget is per computer, not per gpuL67[09:10:26] <Kristopher38> And syncing up two separate
computers to draw what you want at the exact time is gonna be pain
and will likely fail
<Kristopher38> And syncing up two separate
computers to draw what you want at the exact time is gonna be pain
and will likely failL68[09:11:04] <Kristopher38> I mean the network messages
themselves are at least 1 tick delay
<Kristopher38> I mean the network messages
themselves are at least 1 tick delayL69[09:11:12] ⇨
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L71[09:13:08] <Benedani>
>Kristopher38: Look, it won't matter because the call bu…
<Benedani>
>Kristopher38: Look, it won't matter because the call bu…L72[09:13:08] <Benedani>
ah, then SLI within a single computer is pointless
<Benedani>
ah, then SLI within a single computer is pointlessL73[09:13:35] <Benedani>
so it's up to a 4 GPU setup here
<Benedani>
so it's up to a 4 GPU setup hereL74[09:13:53] ⇨
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L76[09:41:07] <immibis> how to implement
it: edit the component API
L77[09:41:39] <immibis> you can literally
just replace functions like component.invoke
L78[09:41:47] <immibis> and
component.proxy
L79[09:41:58] <immibis> or if you want it a
bit less invasive, you can replace component.gpu
L80[09:42:32] <Benedani>
yeah component.gpu is what I'm looking for
<Benedani>
yeah component.gpu is what I'm looking forL81[09:42:38] <Benedani>
how good is the connection between servers in a single rack?
<Benedani>
how good is the connection between servers in a single rack?L82[09:45:32] <Benedani>
also, that means technically I could just use tier 2 servers, tier
3 would be pointless here
<Benedani>
also, that means technically I could just use tier 2 servers, tier
3 would be pointless hereL83[09:47:13] <Forecaster> it's the same as if they were
connected by a cable
<Forecaster> it's the same as if they were
connected by a cableL84[09:47:58] <Benedani>
>Kristopher38: I mean the network messages themselves ar…
<Benedani>
>Kristopher38: I mean the network messages themselves ar…L85[09:47:58] <Benedani>
and then I guess this limitation applies...
<Benedani>
and then I guess this limitation applies...L86[09:52:23] <Kristopher38> if you somehow managed to
make communication "instant" with some hack (i.e.
changing something that is visible outside of the computer without
stalling, e.g. computer name) maybe you could bypass that
<Kristopher38> if you somehow managed to
make communication "instant" with some hack (i.e.
changing something that is visible outside of the computer without
stalling, e.g. computer name) maybe you could bypass thatL87[09:52:27] <Kristopher38> I haven't looked into
it
<Kristopher38> I haven't looked into
itL88[09:53:27] <Benedani>
I mean, if it's a consistent delay, I'm not against delaying the
main system's GPU
<Benedani>
I mean, if it's a consistent delay, I'm not against delaying the
main system's GPUL89[09:53:51] ⇨
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L90[09:54:10] <Benedani>
yeah it creates input lag, but that's better than struggling to run
at all
<Benedani>
yeah it creates input lag, but that's better than struggling to run
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L92[09:56:50] <Kristopher38> then you're better off
running just 1 gpu, the extra overhead from passing network
messages makes it not worth it, but I'd like to be proven
wrong
<Kristopher38> then you're better off
running just 1 gpu, the extra overhead from passing network
messages makes it not worth it, but I'd like to be proven
wrongL93[09:57:40] <Benedani>
is there a bandwidth cap or just a delay in ticks?
<Benedani>
is there a bandwidth cap or just a delay in ticks?L94[09:57:45] <Forecaster> I mean, you can encode
multiple draws in a single network message, so if you have 3
external gpus for example, you get three draws from one network
call
<Forecaster> I mean, you can encode
multiple draws in a single network message, so if you have 3
external gpus for example, you get three draws from one network
callL95[09:58:58] <Forecaster> there's a limit on how much
data a single network can contain
<Forecaster> there's a limit on how much
data a single network can containL96[09:59:16] <Forecaster> and the delay will be greater
if there are repeaters inbetween, but in this case there wouldn't
be
<Forecaster> and the delay will be greater
if there are repeaters inbetween, but in this case there wouldn't
beL97[09:59:47] <Forecaster> there's a limit on how much
data a single network message can contain [Edited]
<Forecaster> there's a limit on how much
data a single network message can contain [Edited]L98[10:00:24] <Benedani>
`maxNetworkPacketSize=8192`
<Benedani>
`maxNetworkPacketSize=8192`L99[10:00:24] <Benedani>
alright
<Benedani>
alrightL100[10:00:45] <Kristopher38> I can imagine
synchronization between computers could be an issue, ~~just because
there aren't really any accurate timers available in OC~~ actually
there is, you use filesystem timestamps and get milisecond
precision
<Kristopher38> I can imagine
synchronization between computers could be an issue, ~~just because
there aren't really any accurate timers available in OC~~ actually
there is, you use filesystem timestamps and get milisecond
precisionL101[10:01:43] <Benedani>
actually hey, what if I used an external hdd for
"networking"?
<Benedani>
actually hey, what if I used an external hdd for
"networking"?L102[10:01:58] <Benedani>
would it be even slower
<Benedani>
would it be even slowerL103[10:02:42] <Forecaster> if everything is localized
(ie no relays between them) and all the slave computers do is wait
for messages I imagine the timing would be fairly consistent
<Forecaster> if everything is localized
(ie no relays between them) and all the slave computers do is wait
for messages I imagine the timing would be fairly consistentL104[10:03:08] <Benedani>
mhm, the computers would just be running that one program that
waits for messages
<Benedani>
mhm, the computers would just be running that one program that
waits for messagesL105[10:03:24] <Kristopher38> 🤔 you could try exchanging
messages through tmpfs
<Kristopher38> 🤔 you could try exchanging
messages through tmpfsL106[10:03:25] <Benedani>
question is, in what order would they be executed?
<Benedani>
question is, in what order would they be executed?L107[10:03:52] <Kristopher38> but I don't know if you can
access that outside of the computer owning the tmpfs mountpoint
itself
<Kristopher38> but I don't know if you can
access that outside of the computer owning the tmpfs mountpoint
itselfL108[10:04:20] <Forecaster> I'd split the screen into
segments and dedicate each device to draw a specific section of the
screen
<Forecaster> I'd split the screen into
segments and dedicate each device to draw a specific section of the
screenL109[10:05:24] <Izaya> if you don't mind a
tad bit of input lag, one master computer and multiple slaves,
master computer takes input, runs game logic, and send commands to
the other computers as a broadcast, so they can all execute it
independently
L110[10:05:46] <Benedani>
>Forecaster: I'd split the screen into segments and de…
<Benedani>
>Forecaster: I'd split the screen into segments and de…L111[10:05:46] <Benedani>
problem is you'd need to split up the set() calls and then the
screen has a shared cursor foreground and background color and
yeahh
<Benedani>
problem is you'd need to split up the set() calls and then the
screen has a shared cursor foreground and background color and
yeahhL112[10:06:09] <Benedani>
>Izaya: if you don't mind a tad bit of input lag,…
<Benedani>
>Izaya: if you don't mind a tad bit of input lag,…L113[10:06:10] <Benedani>
yeah that's the basic idea
<Benedani>
yeah that's the basic ideaL114[10:06:25] <Forecaster> that's what I suggested
earlier
<Forecaster> that's what I suggested
earlierL115[10:06:35] <Izaya> not 100% but I
think the colour being drawn to the screen is GPU specific rather
than screen specific
L116[10:06:44] <Izaya> generally I try to
avoid having my component networks overlap, though
L117[10:08:43] <Benedani>
it seems to be screen specific, I mean why else would the colors
between the 2 computers running tty glitch up when they're drawing
with the same exact setup
<Benedani>
it seems to be screen specific, I mean why else would the colors
between the 2 computers running tty glitch up when they're drawing
with the same exact setupL118[10:09:04] <Izaya> you might be right
\o/
L119[10:09:38] <Benedani>
so I guess the gpu just passes commands onto the screen
<Benedani>
so I guess the gpu just passes commands onto the screenL120[10:09:44] <Benedani>
the screen does everything
<Benedani>
the screen does everythingL121[10:10:01] <Benedani>
the speeds are, however, capped by the computers
<Benedani>
the speeds are, however, capped by the computersL122[10:11:01]
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L124[10:11:59] <Kristopher38> Hmm, i wouldn't assume fg
and bg colors are bound to the screen until you test it
yourself
<Kristopher38> Hmm, i wouldn't assume fg
and bg colors are bound to the screen until you test it
yourselfL125[10:14:49] <Benedani>
yeah, they're shared
<Benedani>
yeah, they're sharedL126[10:15:12] <Benedani>
yeah, they're shared
<Benedani>
yeah, they're sharedL127[10:17:44] ⇦
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L128[10:29:42] <Kristopher38> Then it's even less
feasible
<Kristopher38> Then it's even less
feasibleL129[10:30:27] <Benedani>
yeah, no tiling
<Benedani>
yeah, no tilingL130[10:30:43] <Benedani>
but yes to distributing the commands... given you can get them run
in the correct order
<Benedani>
but yes to distributing the commands... given you can get them run
in the correct orderL131[10:36:44] <Benedani>
well shit, it's a random order
<Benedani>
well shit, it's a random orderL132[10:36:57] <Benedani>
it's like the servers are just running parallel
<Benedani>
it's like the servers are just running parallelL133[10:37:55]
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L135[10:39:15] <Benedani>
since it has to be synced, I'd fill up 3(4?) queues with commands
for each GPU in order, then flush them, leaving the slaves waiting
for each other to be able to run but it shouldn't take long as the
delay only hits once you have reached the call budget
<Benedani>
since it has to be synced, I'd fill up 3(4?) queues with commands
for each GPU in order, then flush them, leaving the slaves waiting
for each other to be able to run but it shouldn't take long as the
delay only hits once you have reached the call budgetL136[10:59:34] <Vaur>
%tonk
<Vaur>
%tonkL137[10:59:35] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Vaur,
you were not able to beat CompanionCube's record of 5 hours, 37
minutes and 28 seconds this time. 4 hours, 56 minutes and 4 seconds
were wasted! Missed by 41 minutes and 24 seconds!
L138[10:59:47] <Vampyre> sync add redstone
cards on an external 1 tick pulse
L139[11:00:07] <Vampyre> add redstone
cards and sync on an external 1 tick pulse*
L140[11:00:17] <Vaur>
%sip
<Vaur>
%sipL141[11:00:17] <MichiBot> You drink a
diluted red potion (New!). A giant boulder is rolling towards Vaur!
They fail to evade it with a 7 vs DC 15 and takes 1d6 => 4
damage.
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L143[11:36:00] <Benedani>
the problem isn't the clock, in fact redstone would make it
worse
<Benedani>
the problem isn't the clock, in fact redstone would make it
worseL144[11:41:26] <Vaur>
%sip
<Vaur>
%sipL145[11:41:26] <MichiBot> You drink a
gloopy chocolate potion (New!). An incredibly fake looking mustache
is stuck to Vaur's face until they see a unicorn.
L146[11:42:01] <Forecaster> %tonkout
<Forecaster> %tonkoutL147[11:42:01] <MichiBot> I'm sorry
Forecaster, you were not able to beat CompanionCube's record of 5
hours, 37 minutes and 28 seconds this time. 42 minutes and 26
seconds were wasted! Missed by 4 hours, 55 minutes and 2
seconds!
L148[11:42:07] <Forecaster> oh
<Forecaster> ohL149[11:42:14] <Forecaster> I missed something it
seems
<Forecaster> I missed something it
seemsL150[11:43:58] <Vaur> a
fail tonk from my part
<Vaur> a
fail tonk from my partL151[11:44:30] <Vaur>
because I missed the fail tonkout of Cube
<Vaur>
because I missed the fail tonkout of CubeL152[11:44:45] <Vaur>
today has been just a series of fail
<Vaur>
today has been just a series of failL153[11:44:55] <Vaur>
%sip
<Vaur>
%sipL154[11:45:14] <Vaur> I
... already did it 2 minutes ago
<Vaur> I
... already did it 2 minutes agoL155[11:46:00] <Forecaster> ocinterfacedesigner now works
again! including the touch event code!
<Forecaster> ocinterfacedesigner now works
again! including the touch event code!L156[11:48:09] <Benedani>
%sip
<Benedani>
%sipL157[11:48:09] <MichiBot> You drink a
forked aluminium potion (New!). The potion contained a computer
virus! Benedani hears a maniacal laugh as their cursor flips upside
down!
L158[11:48:26] <Benedani>
kek
<Benedani>
kekL159[11:52:18] ⇦
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L160[11:52:29] <Vaur>
%sip
<Vaur>
%sipL161[11:52:29] <MichiBot> You drink a sour
honey potion (New!). Vaur's favourite hair is suddenly fire.
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zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L164[12:03:57] <immibis> %sip
L165[12:03:58] <MichiBot> You drink a
porous strawberry potion (New!). immibis gains the ability to
summon safety pins until they exit the room.
L166[12:18:27] <Vaur>
%sip
<Vaur>
%sipL167[12:18:28] <MichiBot> You drink a
salty grass potion (New!). Vaur reboots for an update for 10
minutes.
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L170[13:51:37] <Forecaster> %sip
<Forecaster> %sipL171[13:51:38] <MichiBot> You drink a
seeping chocolate potion (New!). The next glass of water Forecaster
has tastes like Bombastium.
L172[13:51:51] <Forecaster> good thing I never drink
water
<Forecaster> good thing I never drink
waterL173[13:53:06] <Benedani>
%sip
<Benedani>
%sipL174[13:53:06] <MichiBot> You drink a
fiery grathnode potion (New!). Benedani hears a train whistle in
the distance.
L175[13:53:15] <Benedani>
:D
<Benedani>
:DL176[13:53:33]
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L179[14:34:44] <Izaya> bad_at_vijya:
https://bbs.kawa-kun.com/media/357d196b59770f4d2d34162b08af3caa38d3110cc79de83ea7f014fb828439c2.webm
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L187[15:26:05] <20kdc> so
apparently,
<20kdc> so
apparently,L188[15:26:21] <20kdc>
using VRAM as swap just doesn't work for me
<20kdc>
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L191[15:36:46] <immibis> %sip
L192[15:36:46] <MichiBot> You drink a
rather aether potion (New!). Gravity reverses for immibis until
they see a star fall.
L193[15:42:18] <immibis> very aether, much
wow
L194[15:44:14] <Forecaster> fortunately, you'll see lots
of stars one you reach space
<Forecaster> fortunately, you'll see lots
of stars one you reach spaceL195[15:47:26] <dequbed> Well if you're
being flung at 9.81m/s^2 you better hope there's a meteoride in the
atmosphere *right now* :P
L197[16:04:12] <bad at
vijya> needs more caramelldansen
<bad at
vijya> needs more caramelldansenL198[16:06:31] <bad at
vijya> wait
<bad at
vijya> waitL199[16:06:37] <bad at
vijya> do replies work through the bridge
<bad at
vijya> do replies work through the bridgeL200[16:06:38] <bad at
vijya> hm
<bad at
vijya> hmL201[16:06:44] <bad at
vijya> Izaya: just in case
<bad at
vijya> Izaya: just in caseL202[16:06:45] <Ariri>
Yes
<Ariri>
YesL203[16:06:50] <Ariri>
doesn't ping tho
<Ariri>
doesn't ping thoL204[16:08:55] <bad at
vijya> ic
<bad at
vijya> icL205[16:11:05] <Forecaster> whether it pings or not
depends on the IRC client
<Forecaster> whether it pings or not
depends on the IRC clientL206[16:23:51]
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L209[16:33:44] <bad at
vijya> Izaya: so i'm making up a backup system for my VMs
and
<bad at
vijya> Izaya: so i'm making up a backup system for my VMs
andL210[16:33:58] <bad at
vijya> there's a flag to specify if the VM uses an insane
filesystem like NTFS :P
<bad at
vijya> there's a flag to specify if the VM uses an insane
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L212[16:46:21] <i_develop_things> @Benedani for games
it’s probably best to use GPU buffers rather than parallel
drawing
<i_develop_things> @Benedani for games
it’s probably best to use GPU buffers rather than parallel
drawingL213[16:47:01] <i_develop_things> If you have mostly
static sprites you can get really good performance
<i_develop_things> If you have mostly
static sprites you can get really good performanceL214[16:53:35] <Benedani>
>i develop things: <@186866145599422464> for games it’s
prob…
<Benedani>
>i develop things: <@186866145599422464> for games it’s
prob…L215[16:53:35] <Benedani>
I don't seem to have gpu buffers for some reason, but sprites could
work by abusing viewports
<Benedani>
I don't seem to have gpu buffers for some reason, but sprites could
work by abusing viewportsL216[16:54:15] <Forecaster> you need to have the latest
version from the build server
<Forecaster> you need to have the latest
version from the build serverL217[16:54:21] <Forecaster> they're not in latest from
curseforge
<Forecaster> they're not in latest from
curseforgeL218[16:56:05] <Benedani>
also is drawing to buffer then copying faster than raw drawing to
screen? I imagine so
<Benedani>
also is drawing to buffer then copying faster than raw drawing to
screen? I imagine soL219[16:56:40] <Forecaster> yes
<Forecaster> yesL220[16:57:18] <Benedani>
I mean assuming the commands don't overlap each other
<Benedani>
I mean assuming the commands don't overlap each otherL221[16:58:20] <Forecaster> doesn't matter
<Forecaster> doesn't matterL222[16:58:33] <Forecaster> if you do the same thing live
the buffer will be faster
<Forecaster> if you do the same thing live
the buffer will be fasterL224[17:05:19] <Ariri>
tony the pony
<Ariri>
tony the ponyL225[17:05:22] <Ariri> he
comes
<Ariri> he
comesL226[17:07:04]
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L229[17:16:20] <Benedani>
why do humans even want to use regex to parse html
<Benedani>
why do humans even want to use regex to parse htmlL230[17:19:53] <CompanionCube> he can't be
named in the BMP though
L231[17:20:43] <immibis> because regex is
generally a quick way to parse things
L232[17:21:09] <immibis> dequbed: luckily
i'm just stuck on the ceiling. typing is a bit hard though
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L235[17:31:00] <Forecaster> %tonkout
<Forecaster> %tonkoutL236[17:31:00] <MichiBot> Geez!
Forecaster! You beat CompanionCube's previous record of 5 hours,
37 minutes and 28 seconds (By 11 minutes and 29 seconds)! I hope
you're happy!
L237[17:31:01] <MichiBot> Forecaster has
stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.005 tonk
points! plus 0.004 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to
50% because stealing) Current score: 0.50644085. Position #3 Need
0.21568015 more points to pass CompanionCube!
L238[17:32:02] <Benedani>
%sip
<Benedani>
%sipL239[17:32:02] <MichiBot> You drink a
spooned diamond potion (New!). After the first sip the potion poofs
away.
L240[17:32:16] <Benedani>
oh okay
<Benedani>
oh okayL242[17:35:14] <MichiBot> oc interface
2 | length: 1m 29s | Likes: 0 Dislikes: 0
Views: 0 | by Forecaster | Published On
10/4/2021
L243[17:35:23] <Forecaster> Interfaces!
<Forecaster> Interfaces!L244[17:37:18] <Benedani>
hmm
<Benedani>
hmmL245[17:37:55] <Forecaster> @Kristopher38 you asked about
this a while ago I think
<Forecaster> @Kristopher38 you asked about
this a while ago I thinkL246[17:37:59] <Forecaster> it's working again
<Forecaster> it's working againL247[17:38:52] <Kristopher38> huh, neat
<Kristopher38> huh, neatL248[17:39:31]
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L250[17:45:42] <Forecaster> it's interesting that the
setBackground didn't do anything in the touch box...
<Forecaster> it's interesting that the
setBackground didn't do anything in the touch box...L251[17:47:06] <Forecaster> if I use a different color it
works, weird
<Forecaster> if I use a different color it
works, weirdL252[18:16:35]
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L254[18:58:20] <Forecaster> %tonk
<Forecaster> %tonkL255[18:58:20] <MichiBot> Dogast!
Forecaster! You beat your own previous record of <0 (By 1 hour,
27 minutes and 20 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L256[18:58:21] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new
record is 1 hour, 27 minutes and 20 seconds! No points gained for
stealing from yourself. (Lost out on 0.00146)
L257[19:13:47] <immibis> what happens if
you do it too early
L258[19:13:49] <immibis> %tonk
L259[19:13:50] <MichiBot> immibis: You
should probably read this: https://michibot.pc-logix.com/tonk
L260[19:13:55] <immibis> ...lol
L261[19:17:28] <ThePiGuy24> the answer is people dislike
you if you do :p
<ThePiGuy24> the answer is people dislike
you if you do :pL262[19:19:37] <Forecaster> no it's a legitimate strategy
in some situations
<Forecaster> no it's a legitimate strategy
in some situationsL263[19:19:43] <Forecaster> but you only have 2
attempts
<Forecaster> but you only have 2
attemptsL264[19:19:56] <Forecaster> then you can't do it anymore
until someone else succeeds
<Forecaster> then you can't do it anymore
until someone else succeedsL265[19:20:40] <bad at
vijya> gah
<bad at
vijya> gahL266[19:20:51] <bad at
vijya> i have to reboot my VMs to actually get the vm stuff
working
<bad at
vijya> i have to reboot my VMs to actually get the vm stuff
workingL267[19:21:05] <bad at
vijya> backup stuff
<bad at
vijya> backup stuffL268[19:21:05] <bad at
vijya> i mean
<bad at
vijya> i meanL269[19:21:08] <bad at
vijya> whatever
<bad at
vijya> whateverL271[19:52:36] <MichiBot> C1-65A - Bad
Apple (HD) | length: 4m 37s | Likes: 21,878 Dislikes: 119 Views: 694,924 | by Ibh
Svenssen | Published On 20/12/2010
L272[19:58:19] <nil> this
is really the doom
<nil> this
is really the doomL273[20:11:14]
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L275[20:18:28] <Kleadron>
the doom of weebs
<Kleadron>
the doom of weebsL276[20:18:54]
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L278[20:35:39] <Light
Dimf> Does OC uses JIT for Lua?
<Light
Dimf> Does OC uses JIT for Lua?L279[20:36:44] <Bob> what
JIT
<Bob> what
JITL280[20:36:50] <Bob> that
statement doesnt make much sense
<Bob> that
statement doesnt make much senseL281[20:37:11] <Bob> OC
uses Eris's as its Lua implementation
<Bob> OC
uses Eris's as its Lua implementationL282[20:37:13] <dequbed> @"Light
Dimf" it uses it's own lua vm, not LuaJIT
L283[20:37:46] <Bob> ^, no
JIT, not LuaJIT, no FFI, just Eris with Lua 5.3 and 5.2
support
<Bob> ^, no
JIT, not LuaJIT, no FFI, just Eris with Lua 5.3 and 5.2
supportL284[20:38:07] <Bob> also
LuaJ if OC fails to initialize Eris native libs
<Bob> also
LuaJ if OC fails to initialize Eris native libsL285[20:49:20] <Light
Dimf> >Haruspex: OC uses Eris's as its Lua
implementation
<Light
Dimf> >Haruspex: OC uses Eris's as its Lua
implementationL286[20:49:20] <Light
Dimf> Does it have JIT?
<Light
Dimf> Does it have JIT?L287[20:49:29] <i_develop_things> No
<i_develop_things> NoL288[20:49:38] <Light
Dimf> Well...
<Light
Dimf> Well...L289[20:49:40] <Light
Dimf> bad
<Light
Dimf> badL290[20:49:44] <i_develop_things> Why
<i_develop_things> WhyL291[20:49:49] <Light
Dimf> Performance
<Light
Dimf> PerformanceL292[20:50:29] <Light
Dimf> Or maybe I don't know enough about how actually Lua
work
<Light
Dimf> Or maybe I don't know enough about how actually Lua
workL293[20:50:31] <i_develop_things> Lua is already faster
than pretty much every other interpreted language
<i_develop_things> Lua is already faster
than pretty much every other interpreted languageL294[20:51:01] <Bob> why
would you even care ?
<Bob> why
would you even care ?L295[20:51:01] <Light
Dimf> >i develop things: Lua is already faster than pretty
much ever…
<Light
Dimf> >i develop things: Lua is already faster than pretty
much ever…L296[20:51:01] <Light
Dimf> But it's still interpreted, isn't it?
<Light
Dimf> But it's still interpreted, isn't it?L297[20:51:07] <i_develop_things> Yes
<i_develop_things> YesL298[20:51:12] <Bob> How
does it being interpreted make it any bad
<Bob> How
does it being interpreted make it any badL299[20:51:27] <Bob> Lua
is the fastest interpreted scripting lang too
<Bob> Lua
is the fastest interpreted scripting lang tooL300[20:51:41] <i_develop_things> What are you doing
where you need huge amounts of performance where Lua isn’t fast
enough?
<i_develop_things> What are you doing
where you need huge amounts of performance where Lua isn’t fast
enough?L301[20:52:03] <Light
Dimf> There is no too much performance
<Light
Dimf> There is no too much performanceL302[20:52:20] <20kdc>
while I agree with your philosophy, OC has sandboxing
requirements
<20kdc>
while I agree with your philosophy, OC has sandboxing
requirementsL303[20:54:25] <immibis> i see your bad
apple on an oscilloscope and raise you one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBeI30ccb6g
L304[20:54:25] <MichiBot> Bad apple on
task manager. | length: 3m 40s | Likes: 24,038 Dislikes: 111 Views: 287,720 | by turtius |
Published On 11/7/2020
L305[20:55:44] <immibis> unfortunately it
appears the CPU load percentages are faked
L306[20:56:58] <Light
Dimf> >20kdc: while I agree with your philosophy, OC has
…
<Light
Dimf> >20kdc: while I agree with your philosophy, OC has
…L307[20:56:58] <Light
Dimf> So.. OC performance impact is unnoticable even in
multiplayer?
<Light
Dimf> So.. OC performance impact is unnoticable even in
multiplayer?L308[20:58:20] <20kdc>
performance impact to the rest of the server is one attribute.
memory exhaustion tends to have much worse consequences.
<20kdc>
performance impact to the rest of the server is one attribute.
memory exhaustion tends to have much worse consequences.L309[20:59:30] <Bob> OC
has sandboxing and call budgets
<Bob> OC
has sandboxing and call budgetsL310[20:59:41] <Bob> you
better warry about MC itself hoarding your ressources
<Bob> you
better warry about MC itself hoarding your ressourcesL311[21:00:14] <Bob> in
any case, if you feel that OC is too impactful, which would be an
extreme edge case, you can tweak the configs to reduce the
allocated budgets even further
<Bob> in
any case, if you feel that OC is too impactful, which would be an
extreme edge case, you can tweak the configs to reduce the
allocated budgets even furtherL312[21:01:14] <Vaur>
%tonk
<Vaur>
%tonkL313[21:01:15] <MichiBot> Yikes! Vaur!
You beat Forecaster's previous record of 1 hour, 27 minutes and 20
seconds (By 35 minutes and 34 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L314[21:01:16] <MichiBot> Vaur's new
record is 2 hours, 2 minutes and 54 seconds! Vaur also gained
0.00118 (0.00059 x 2) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position
#1.
L315[21:01:39] <i_develop_things> and from a programming
standpoint
<i_develop_things> and from a programming
standpointL316[21:01:55] <i_develop_things> virtually nothing you
can do in OC is slower than component calls
<i_develop_things> virtually nothing you
can do in OC is slower than component callsL317[21:02:10] <i_develop_things> granted, there are some
edge cases in i.e. pathfinders
<i_develop_things> granted, there are some
edge cases in i.e. pathfindersL318[21:13:09] <Amanda> It's interpreted
in C codethough, not Java.
L319[21:13:16] <Amanda> and Java itself is
an interpreted language
L320[21:13:43] <Amanda> Rather, Lua
compiles down to a bytecode at runtime, the while Java you have to
do it befoe it will run
L321[21:14:55] <dequbed> @"Light
Dimf" if you're going down the "interpretation bad"
route I challenge you to show me how CPUs decoding instructions and
evaluating them is different to VMs interpreting code, especially
given CISC architectures like x86.
L322[21:25:58] <Benedani>
VMs actually have hardware acceleration just to not slow them
down
<Benedani>
VMs actually have hardware acceleration just to not slow them
downL323[21:26:11] <Benedani>
VMs actually have hardware acceleration just to not have the
interpretation slow them down [Edited]
<Benedani>
VMs actually have hardware acceleration just to not have the
interpretation slow them down [Edited]L324[21:28:08]
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L325[21:32:46] <dequbed> @Benedani uh, no.
Hardware acceleration for language VMs is exceedingly rare.
L326[21:33:09] <bad at
vijya> you know what's neat?
<bad at
vijya> you know what's neat?L327[21:33:18] <Benedani>
oh, I was thinking computer VMs
<Benedani>
oh, I was thinking computer VMsL328[21:33:19] <bad at
vijya> lua is usually faster than using the data card
<bad at
vijya> lua is usually faster than using the data cardL329[21:33:34] <Benedani>
>bad at vijya: lua is usually faster than using the data…
<Benedani>
>bad at vijya: lua is usually faster than using the data…L330[21:33:35] <Benedani>
wat
<Benedani>
watL331[21:33:57] <Benedani>
is it actually
<Benedani>
is it actuallyL332[21:34:09] <bad at
vijya> yes, because component calls are slow
<bad at
vijya> yes, because component calls are slowL333[21:39:38] <Saghetti>
i'm reviewing every single server in my list
<Saghetti>
i'm reviewing every single server in my listL334[21:39:39] <Saghetti>
server review: 8/10, cool server with lots of nerds
<Saghetti>
server review: 8/10, cool server with lots of nerdsL335[21:40:40] <Forecaster> How dare
<Forecaster> How dareL336[21:40:42] <dequbed> How dare you only
give us 8/10!
L337[21:40:50] <Forecaster> There is no candy here
<Forecaster> There is no candy hereL338[21:40:54] <Forecaster> I've looked
<Forecaster> I've lookedL339[21:41:55] <Saghetti>
only 8/10 because i haven't been active here in a while and idk
what's changed
<Saghetti>
only 8/10 because i haven't been active here in a while and idk
what's changedL340[21:42:02] <Saghetti>
if this was back in march it would'be been 10/10
<Saghetti>
if this was back in march it would'be been 10/10L341[21:42:49] <Forecaster> Nothing's changed, why would
it
<Forecaster> Nothing's changed, why would
itL342[21:46:25] <Saghetti>
idk it's been many months
<Saghetti>
idk it's been many monthsL343[21:47:10] <i_develop_things> oh hi saghetti
<i_develop_things> oh hi saghettiL344[21:47:20] <i_develop_things> i feel like i say that
every time you pop in lol
<i_develop_things> i feel like i say that
every time you pop in lolL345[21:50:25] <Kilobyte_> from my
observation the only thing that really changed here in the past 6
years is the ratio of discord to IRC users. Then again, i'm not
here very often nowadays
L346[21:50:51] <dequbed> @Saghetti I give
@Saghetti 9/10. Cool person, not here enough :P
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L348[21:51:07] <Izaya> 8/10 too much
malware
L349[21:51:33] <dequbed> Are you awake
again or still awake Izaya?
L350[21:51:47] <Kilobyte_> possibly both
at the same time?
L351[21:51:50] <Izaya> awake again
L352[21:51:59] <dequbed> good
L353[21:52:10] <Izaya> got like 7
hours
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L355[22:00:52] <bad at
vijya> titanfall 2 can be fun
<bad at
vijya> titanfall 2 can be funL356[22:12:49] <Izaya> did they ever
release the server software
L357[22:28:42] <bad at
vijya> lmao no
<bad at
vijya> lmao noL358[22:28:48] <bad at
vijya> why would they ever do thaaat
<bad at
vijya> why would they ever do thaaatL359[22:31:04] <Izaya> so when ... EA?
Ubisoft? decides to stop running them, people don't have a
worthless game
L360[22:31:47] <bad at
vijya> ha
<bad at
vijya> haL361[22:31:50] <bad at
vijya> that's a funny joke
<bad at
vijya> that's a funny jokeL362[22:31:57] <bad at
vijya> either of them caring about the consumer
<bad at
vijya> either of them caring about the consumerL363[22:32:58] <Izaya> I feel like selling
to-be-paperweights as computer games has to be illegal
L364[22:33:34] <Izaya> ugh
L365[22:33:44] <Izaya> pmOS gives me the
shits
L366[22:34:02] <Izaya> > hurr pipewire
is new let's use it instead of normal pulseaudio because pulse
isn't broken enough
L367[22:34:34] <Izaya> so my phone doesn't
have any audio.
L368[22:40:27] <ThePiGuy24> people that prefer wayland be
like
<ThePiGuy24> people that prefer wayland be
likeL369[22:40:51] <Izaya> wayland pls
go
L370[22:40:56] <Izaya> we have enough
broken software already
L371[22:48:52] <bad at
vijya> woohoo
<bad at
vijya> woohooL372[22:48:58] <bad at
vijya> more change for the sake of change, apparently
<bad at
vijya> more change for the sake of change, apparentlyL373[22:56:24] <Kristopher38> Izaya: I presume you're
familiar with Ross Scott
<Kristopher38> Izaya: I presume you're
familiar with Ross ScottL374[22:56:41] <Izaya> eyup
L375[22:58:53] <niel ciceriga
(aka lemon demon)> Would google.com be possible on OpenOs
<niel ciceriga
(aka lemon demon)> Would google.com be possible on OpenOsL376[22:59:00] <niel ciceriga
(aka lemon demon)> you search something and it comes to you
with a few results
<niel ciceriga
(aka lemon demon)> you search something and it comes to you
with a few resultsL377[23:01:23] <Bob> a
simplified version for sure
<Bob> a
simplified version for sureL378[23:01:30] <20kdc>
Izaya: so I wrote my own heretical kernel module by using
/proc/kallsyms to get a few function pointers that allocates and
more importantly pins some VRAM, and in addition to that, modified
slram to accept kernelspace addresses. There should be no possible
way for this to deadlock. I hope.
<20kdc>
Izaya: so I wrote my own heretical kernel module by using
/proc/kallsyms to get a few function pointers that allocates and
more importantly pins some VRAM, and in addition to that, modified
slram to accept kernelspace addresses. There should be no possible
way for this to deadlock. I hope.L379[23:01:51] <Bob> there
must be search engines with simple HTTP APIs
<Bob> there
must be search engines with simple HTTP APIsL380[23:05:47] <niel ciceriga
(aka lemon demon)> there must
<niel ciceriga
(aka lemon demon)> there mustL381[23:43:05] ⇦
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