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L2[00:11:22] <Va​ur> %sip
L3[00:11:23] <MichiBot> You drink a soft honey potion (New!). A bard starts playing a lute behind Vaur. They don't stop.
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L6[00:23:06] <bad at​ vijya> today in cursed code
L7[00:23:16] <bad at​ vijya> `local dev, com, str, _x, empty = component, computer, string, "%.2x", ""`
L8[00:23:19] <bad at​ vijya> because minification
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L10[00:56:34] <Amanda> %choose modular or no
L11[00:56:34] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: The sands of time whisper to me... they're saying "modular".
L12[01:06:18] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L13[01:06:18] <MichiBot> Bejabbers! Compan​ionCube! You beat Va​ur's previous record of 3 hours, 34 minutes and 44 seconds (By 5 minutes and 20 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L14[01:06:19] <MichiBot> CompanionCube's new record is 3 hours, 40 minutes and 4 seconds! CompanionCube also gained 0.00036 (0.00009 x 4) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #3. Need 0.01579 more points to pass Va​ur!
L15[01:20:49] <Ariri> I am a grain of the sands of time, and I too say modular
L16[01:21:19] <Amanda> new PSU ordered. non-modular because I'm not paying more for something I don't even need. The current one is semi-modular, and all the modular wires it it are unused.
L17[01:21:29] <Izaya> semi-modular is my preference
L18[01:21:39] <i develo​p things> i think i have semi-modular
L19[01:21:46] <Izaya> I'm never not going to use the motherboard and CPU connectors
L20[01:21:55] <i develo​p things> does anyone know which C library people generally use for OSKs?
L21[01:21:58] <Izaya> but the PCI-e and SATA connectors are largely optional
L22[01:22:07] <minas_tirith> Electronics is scary
L23[01:22:19] <Amanda> They're not that bad, just don't lick the Mains
L24[01:22:33] <Amanda> Or chew on extension wires.
L25[01:23:35] <Amanda> so now my new PSU will be here on the same day my pinephone will be, assuming DHL's estimate's at all accurate, and they don't send it back for another sticker violation
L26[01:24:41] <ThePi​Guy24> mine will be here feb 02 approximatley
L27[01:28:17] <minas_tirith> anyone here ever tried making sound cables
L28[01:29:10] <M​GR> @Forecaster Heads up on the whole interstellar logistics thing. If an interstellar logistics hub has no space warpers but it sees that another system has what it needs, it will still dispatch logistics vessels. At sublight velocities. That you cannot recall. That still take up vessel slots in the hub.
L29[01:31:38] <Ariri> I also semi-modular actually, but that wasn't in the options so I didn't say it
L30[01:31:43] <Ariri> also use*
L31[01:32:45] <Amanda> Playing DSP on my gaming compy via Steam IHS -- double-taping tofly doesn't shoot me up into the stratosphere, what is this good-framerate witchcraft!
L32[01:32:58] <minas_tirith> Less parts that could move and get unsettled the better
L33[01:33:53] <Amanda> The case shouldn't be moving, so the internal components shouldn't be either, really
L34[01:35:04] <minas_tirith> I have just grown a horror of mechanical problems in costly electronics
L35[01:35:07] <Amanda> If it starts up with grinding noises after you've done work on it, turn it back off, and fix that
L36[01:36:15] <i develo​p things> why does libgnomekbd have no docs that i can find :(
L37[01:36:33] <Amanda> Just Read The Source - GNOME, probably
L38[01:36:40] <Amanda> or "You shouldn't need to use that."
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L40[01:37:50] <minas_tirith> xfce and gnome are one and the same, if you are to believe some people
L41[01:39:14] <i develo​p things> that's irrelevant here
L42[01:39:19] <i develo​p things> all i want is a decent keyboard for phosh
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L44[01:40:37] <Amanda> ... I hate the tech tree in DSP
L45[01:41:03] <Amanda> I just unlocked something... that I can't even use, because it requires a part in a totally unrelated node, that isn't marked as a dependency or anything
L46[01:41:09] <minas_tirith> What is this "phosh" thing?
L47[01:41:41] <i develo​p things> google it
L48[01:42:04] <M​GR> Amanda, not as much as I hated effectively disappearing logistics vessels
L49[01:42:19] <Amanda> I've not got that far, yet
L50[01:42:38] <Amanda> But the dev notes mentioned wanting to do something or other to logistics before CNY, so we'll see how that goes
L51[01:42:43] <minas_tirith> oh
L52[01:42:51] <minas_tirith> You're grappling with your pine thing
L53[01:42:58] <i develo​p things> Izaya: did you build Arcan with `egl-gles` or `egl-dri`?
L54[01:43:05] <Te​ris> Pinephone
L55[01:43:06] <i develo​p things> minas_tirith: the phosh keyboard is awful
L56[01:43:29] <minas_tirith> is it possible to attach some kind of keypad to these phones
L57[01:43:39] <minas_tirith> for when working on typing heavy stuff like a terminal
L58[01:43:44] <i develo​p things> there's a psion 5 style keboard in the works
L59[01:44:54] <Amanda> @MGR doyou know if there's a limit to the nodes in a dyson swarm? I went from 1 ring to 4 because it seemed like there was, but now it's seemingly just fine?
L60[01:45:06] <M​GR> I'm not sure
L61[01:45:08] <M​GR> I don't think so
L62[01:45:24] <minas_tirith> Thats an interesting piece of ancient technology, thanks for telling me about it
L63[01:46:00] <i develo​p things> the psion 5?
L64[01:46:19] <minas_tirith> yes
L65[01:46:23] <i develo​p things> ah
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L67[02:07:57] <bad at​ vijya> Izaya: so most of the boilerplate code for the cursed ass bootloader i'm working on is done
L68[02:08:32] <bad at​ vijya> and, when minified, is only 794 bytes.
L69[02:08:34] <bad at​ vijya> :D
L70[02:08:50] <minas_tirith> What is your bootloader for?
L71[02:14:46] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER: take apart gaming compy to get Alex the PSU's details.
L72[02:15:13] <bad at​ vijya> what's my bootloader for?
L73[02:15:18] <ThePi​Guy24> loading boots
L74[02:15:29] <bad at​ vijya> well it's not called "Super Multi Bootloader" for no reason
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L76[02:15:31] <Amanda> done anddone
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L78[02:15:41] <minas_tirith> No
L79[02:15:48] <ThePiGuy24> tf hexchat
L80[02:15:54] <minas_tirith> Is it for laptops, for some phone, or some specific piece of embedded hardware or
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L82[02:15:58] <Ariri> Pi2
L83[02:16:47] <bad at​ vijya> what
L84[02:16:47] <bad at​ vijya> no
L85[02:16:51] <bad at​ vijya> it's for OC
L86[02:17:12] <minas_tirith> Low level programming is a dark and subtle art
L87[02:17:39] <bad at​ vijya> low level programming happens
L88[02:17:46] <bad at​ vijya> [looks at ps2]
L89[02:20:36] <minas_tirith> @bad at vijya its a very dark art
L90[02:21:28] <bad at​ vijya> lmao i can't wait to release xdpu as an OC arch
L91[02:21:31] <Ariri> x11, x8, and now, x7
L92[02:21:49] <Ariri> s/8/9
L93[02:21:50] <MichiBot> <Ariri> x11, x9, and now, x7
L94[02:21:55] <minas_tirith> @bad at vijya how did you master this obscure art?
L95[02:22:44] <Mr. Al​ Patino> I like the bot that acts as tons of bots its cool
L96[02:22:59] * Michiyo blinks
L97[02:23:08] <M​GR> It's a Discord to IRC bridge
L98[02:23:19] <Ariri> omegalol
L99[02:23:26] <minas_tirith> Yeah bro its a telephone
L100[02:23:27] <minas_tirith> We aren't bots
L101[02:23:36] <Teris> Not a telephone
L102[02:23:50] <Teris> That "joke" is way overused
L103[02:23:51] <minas_tirith> Teris, you said its a phone booth in antarctica
L104[02:24:02] <Ariri> That was sarcasm
L105[02:24:12] <Teris> I didn't know you were Drax
L106[02:24:20] <Teris> I'll modify my behavior accordingly
L107[02:24:25] <Ariri> Oof
L108[02:24:29] <ThePiGuy24> hush now dont blow our hivemind cover
L109[02:24:36] <minas_tirith> Drax?
L110[02:24:49] <Teris> Nothing goes over your head
L111[02:24:59] <Teris> Your reflexes are too fast and you would catch it
L112[02:25:06] <Ariri> actually, we are all AI, self-contained within a Matryoshka brain (or something)
L113[02:25:11] <Michiyo> I'm adding a votekick to MichiBot...
L114[02:25:11] <Michiyo> lol
L115[02:25:27] <Ariri> outstanding move
L116[02:25:37] <minas_tirith> AI is a fraud
L117[02:25:52] <bad at​ vijya> minas_tirith: what
L118[02:25:58] * Ariri wheezes
L119[02:26:07] <bad at​ vijya> !votekick
L120[02:26:17] <Teris> And yet an Antarctic public telephone is not?
L121[02:26:40] <Ariri> Valid point
L122[02:27:02] <minas_tirith> AI is a ploy to get money
L123[02:27:18] <Teris> But you want to put coins in said telephone
L124[02:27:31] <minas_tirith> Telephones are real
L125[02:27:32] <Amanda> Hi! I'm the #oc virtual assistant. To subscribe to catfacts, just say "catfacts"!
L126[02:27:38] <Ariri> catfacts
L127[02:27:52] <Amanda> Ariri: CAT6 is the latest standard of CAT cables! ME-ow!
L128[02:27:59] <Teris> Book passage to Antarctica and call me then
L129[02:28:05] <Michiyo> %catfacts
L130[02:28:06] <MichiBot> Cats have an extra organ that allows them to taste scents on the air, which is why your cat stares at you with her mouth open from time to time.
L131[02:28:10] <M​GR> Actually, Cat-8 is in use
L132[02:28:10] <Ariri> Thank you virtual assistant
L133[02:28:16] <minas_tirith> Teris, yes
L134[02:28:19] <Amanda> %stab @MGR
L135[02:28:19] <MichiBot> Ama​nda is trying to stab @MGR! They have 5 minutes if they want to attempt to %defend against it!
L136[02:28:23] <M​GR> Lol
L137[02:28:39] <Ariri> >taste scents
L138[02:28:47] <Ariri> color me curious
L139[02:28:55] <minas_tirith> %catfacts
L140[02:28:55] <MichiBot> A cat has detected his human's breast cancer.
L141[02:29:09] <bad at​ vijya> time to rip the menu code from Zorya
L142[02:29:11] <bad at​ vijya> 👀
L143[02:29:13] <Amanda> Fun fact, humans have that organ too, but it's not wired up to your mouths anymore.
L144[02:29:22] <bad at​ vijya> wait
L145[02:29:24] <bad at​ vijya> it's not?
L146[02:29:26] <M​GR> The Jacobi gland?
L147[02:29:27] <bad at​ vijya> wait
L148[02:29:28] <bad at​ vijya> wait
L149[02:29:34] <bad at​ vijya> you're not supposed to taste the air???
L150[02:29:35] <minas_tirith> So what is it connected to
L151[02:29:44] <minas_tirith> Or did they just cut it off and tape it shut
L152[02:29:50] <Amanda> nothing, it's just a vistigual organ in your face
L153[02:30:08] <Teris> Did who cut it off and tape it shut?
L154[02:30:21] <Amanda> Mrs Evolution
L155[02:30:54] <minas_tirith> Evolution is bloodshed and death
L156[02:31:01] <Teris> It's not very nice to allow others to cheat on the test Amanda
L157[02:31:03] <Ariri> bad at vijya: you can taste it in a way, but I'm guessing it'd different than the cat thing
L158[02:31:18] <minas_tirith> I think we do taste smells
L159[02:31:28] <minas_tirith> Many smells leave a taste in our mouths
L160[02:31:56] <bad at​ vijya> lmao
L161[02:32:01] <minas_tirith> It could just be our heads remembering associations
L162[02:32:02] <minas_tirith> idk
L163[02:32:03] <bad at​ vijya> cursed bootloader chugs along
L164[02:32:15] <Amanda> Most "taste" is actually just you smelling it through your nasal passage connected to your throat
L165[02:32:23] <Ariri> ^
L166[02:33:03] <Ariri> In addition, taste and smell are linked, which is partially why many resturants don't have the food smell reach the occupied areas (don't quote me on that)
L167[02:33:21] <M​GR> Taste and smell are linked
L168[02:33:21] <bad at​ vijya> huh
L169[02:33:22] <bad at​ vijya> wacky
L170[02:33:29] <M​GR> Taste and hearing are also linked
L171[02:33:36] <M​GR> Louder potato chips taste better
L172[02:33:37] <minas_tirith> Yeah
L173[02:34:02] <minas_tirith> The sound of chicken being fried brings good taste to the mouth
L174[02:34:03] <Ariri> [cronch]
L175[02:34:54] <minas_tirith> What does this channel think is appropriate clothing for 10 degrees
L176[02:34:56] <minas_tirith> celcius
L177[02:35:17] <Teris> Antarctica is a bit colder than that
L178[02:37:46] <minas_tirith> Some say such weather necessitates a light jacket or sweater, others believe its t-shirt weather
L179[02:39:00] <Teris> I will significantly increase your reward if you call me from a phone booth in Antarctica while wearing a T-Shirt
L180[02:39:18] <Amanda> @mgr any suggestions for what to do with my excess hydrogen, than making fuel cells?
L181[02:39:36] <M​GR> Do you have Casimir crystal tech?
L182[02:39:48] * Amanda looks at minas_tirith, her phone which says -5°c, herself in her jammies
L183[02:39:52] <minas_tirith> Hydrogen is an interesting chemical
L184[02:39:54] <Amanda> @Mgr not yet
L185[02:40:04] <M​GR> Hmm
L186[02:40:07] <minas_tirith> Amanda, wow
L187[02:40:12] <Va​ur> %sip
L188[02:40:12] <MichiBot> You drink a rather strawberry potion (New!). Vaur feels slightly less agile.
L189[02:40:16] <minas_tirith> Do you have any northern blood in you?
L190[02:40:27] <M​GR> I can't think of anything other than storing it or burning it for power
L191[02:40:34] <Amanda> I'd rather be too cold where I can add layers than too hot where I want to flay myself
L192[02:40:53] <minas_tirith> However Amanda
L193[02:40:59] <minas_tirith> Are you inside or outside?
L194[02:41:07] <Amanda> Which is why my bedroom window is open in the winter and I have my own window A/C unit crankedto max in the summer.
L195[02:41:14] <M​GR> Remind me before 4PM tomorrow and I'll look at what I'm using my hydrogen for
L196[02:41:27] <M​GR> Do you have particle accelerator tech?
L197[02:41:45] <Amanda> @mgr I can get casmir crystals now, actually.I'm making yellow, and have it's predecestors
L198[02:42:00] <minas_tirith> Amanda, you must have some strong northern blood in you
L199[02:42:10] <M​GR> Casimir crystals consume 12 hydrogen per crystal
L200[02:42:15] <M​GR> They're an excellent sink
L201[02:42:24] <Amanda> I'm also already cracking some of it into diturium, but I'm not going to put too much into that, since the gas giant I'm around will provide it
L202[02:42:38] <Amanda> ( diterium that is )
L203[02:42:52] <M​GR> Commencing production of the crystals is what triggered the rage over logistics vessels being idiots
L204[02:43:08] <minas_tirith> Were your forefathers from britain or scandinavia?
L205[02:43:39] <Amanda> minas_tirith: Pretty sure I've been traced back to the mayflower by my grandmother. on my mom's side at least.
L206[02:44:11] <minas_tirith> Amanda, you definitely have some cold northern blood in you if -5C is pajama weather
L207[02:44:32] <Teris> Are you aware of what the Mayflower is?
L208[02:44:38] <minas_tirith> An English ship
L209[02:44:50] <Amanda> @MGR added casmir to my research queue
L210[02:45:01] <Amanda> @mgr what timezone are you in again?
L211[02:45:02] <Teris> Also pyjamas can be quite insulating
L212[02:45:08] <M​GR> US East
L213[02:45:23] <M​GR> Same as you, I believe
L214[02:45:28] <minas_tirith> I know I start looking for something more than t-shirt and shorts at +5C and below
L215[02:45:42] <Amanda> %remindthem @mgr 12h tell Amanda what you're doing with your excess H2
L216[02:45:42] <MichiBot> I'll remind @mgr about "tell Amanda what you're doing with your excess H2" at 01/31/2021 02:45:42 PM
L217[02:45:45] <Teris> Pyjamas can be more than that
L218[02:45:59] <minas_tirith> Amanda, are those thick woollen pjs?
L219[02:46:02] <Amanda> That'd be about 10AM
L220[02:46:17] <M​GR> Ok
L221[02:47:41] <Amanda> in the mean time, I'll continue just deleting higher tanks to void it
L222[02:48:17] <M​GR> I hope they add an incinerator eventually
L223[02:48:59] <minas_tirith> Teris, there are many types of english
L224[02:49:19] <minas_tirith> The highlanders probably are of a purer (as in less changed from the ancestors) type
L225[02:49:32] <minas_tirith> and also perhaps more resistant to cold
L226[02:49:44] <Teris> Do you have any proof of that?
L227[02:49:57] <Teris> Any sources of any kind?
L228[02:50:18] <minas_tirith> Simply because its a remote and somewhat inaccessible region
L229[02:50:21] <Ariri> Amanda, here's my list for KSP 1.11.1 with updated mods, and I moved additional things I installed to suggested (use it with a dupe instance, don't trust me 100%): https://lcars5201.ddns.net/index.php/s/2QFPrEEz55LY7zr
L230[02:50:35] <Teris> Oh your keyboard must have autocorrected
L231[02:50:46] <Teris> You meant to type "No" I see
L232[02:50:46] <minas_tirith> What?
L233[02:50:55] <Teris> Do not worry as I understood you
L234[02:51:01] <minas_tirith> I just mean its easy to see its not a very attractive place for immigrants ancient or modern
L235[02:52:12] <Ariri> It's pretty easy for me to see what is currently attractive and what is not as well
L236[02:52:46] <minas_tirith> How?
L237[02:52:55] <Teris> Eyes
L238[02:53:18] <minas_tirith> Since the beginning of the century, about 80 - 100,000 individuals have arrived in Scotland annually, whereas 60 - 80,000 people have left. The country has experienced an average net migration of 20,000 individuals annually over the last two decades.
L239[02:53:22] <minas_tirith> Says google
L240[02:53:26] <Ariri> Left to right motions in rapid succession
L241[02:53:41] <Ariri> Sometimes right to left though
L242[02:53:46] <minas_tirith> huh?
L243[02:54:40] <Ariri> Ftr, Google isn't a source itself
L244[02:54:53] <Ariri> I don't mind it, but just for future reference
L245[02:55:11] <minas_tirith> Of course
L246[02:55:22] <minas_tirith> But whats left to right motions?
L247[02:56:08] <Ariri> I was referring to eyes, as Teris said
L248[02:56:15] <Ariri> adding on to it, rather
L249[02:56:28] <minas_tirith> You must have sharp eyes, I can't see scotland from here
L250[02:57:47] <Teris> Through a complicated set of electrochemical impulses it is possible to move a set of lenses and photoreceptors in such a way as to record incoming visible light from carefully arranged darkened pixels or pigments and transmit the information to a carefully insulated processing center and utilize the gained information to draw conclusions
L251[02:57:52] <Ariri> I made no reference to Scotland, and it is under the horizon from me, so I'd probably use sat maps to actually see it's attractiveness
L252[02:58:03] <Ariri> if I did want to
L253[02:58:12] <minas_tirith> We were talking about scotland
L254[02:58:49] <Teris> Yes you were
L255[02:59:06] <Ariri> If you want to be specific, the correct statement is 'I was talking about Scotland'
L256[02:59:11] <Ariri> Oops, slow
L257[02:59:31] <minas_tirith> You were speaking as if responding to me
L258[02:59:41] <minas_tirith> so implicitly it must be assumed you were talking about scotland too
L259[02:59:50] <Teris> We were responding to you
L260[03:00:15] <Ariri> I was, but moreso the 'attractive' part than 'scotland'
L261[03:00:27] <minas_tirith> Ok
L262[03:00:49] <bad at​ vijya> oh boy, here we GO
L263[03:00:56] <minas_tirith> Hi
L264[03:01:06] <Ariri> Zorya stolen?
L265[03:01:14] <bad at​ vijya> 2454 bytes long for the bootloader
L266[03:01:20] <bad at​ vijya> wait
L267[03:01:35] * CompanionCube sits around metaphorically sipping tea
L268[03:01:42] <bad at​ vijya> make that 2945
L269[03:01:46] <bad at​ vijya> w/o compressing
L270[03:01:50] <bad at​ vijya> i should do comrpessing
L271[03:01:53] <bad at​ vijya> for the funny
L272[03:03:09] <Brisingr​Aerowing> https://imgur.com/gallery/vLZaDSG
L273[03:03:13] <Ariri> CompanionCube, DOGE has sitting around ~0.03-0.04 USD for a few days
L274[03:03:45] <Ariri> has been*
L275[03:07:35] <Elfi> https://mastodon.social/@Teryl_Pacieco/105645537482869244
L276[03:07:42] * Elfi boops Amanda's toebeans
L277[03:07:46] <bad at​ vijya> https://tinyurl.com/y4yufgdl
L278[03:07:50] <Ariri> %oclogs
L279[03:07:51] <MichiBot> Ar​iri: https://irclogs.pc-logix.com/?dir=logs/%23oc
L280[03:07:52] * Amanda meows hello to Elfi
L281[03:08:08] <Elfi> Hi c: Didja see the story?
L282[03:08:18] <bad at​ vijya> 2107 bytes now lmao
L283[03:08:37] <Amanda> Elfi: :3
L284[03:08:39] <Amanda> I did now!
L285[03:08:58] <Amanda> I've been replacing lines in my DSP save
L286[03:09:33] <Elfi> Oooh
L287[03:09:52] <minas_tirith> What story
L288[03:11:19] <bad at​ vijya> wtf
L289[03:11:23] <bad at​ vijya> why isn't minecraft launching
L290[03:11:24] <bad at​ vijya> reee
L291[03:11:37] <bad at​ vijya> `[22:10:56] [Client thread/ERROR] [minecraft/Minecraft]: Couldn't set pixel format`
L292[03:11:40] <bad at​ vijya> s i g h
L293[03:11:54] <bad at​ vijya> inb4 nvidia driver update happened
L294[03:12:09] <minas_tirith> Computers are very difficult
L295[03:22:32] <Brisingr​Aerowing> @bad at vijya I got that when an update caused MC to use the integrated GPU instead of the dedicated one.
L296[03:23:01] <Brisingr​Aerowing> Said update broke a lot of other things as well.
L297[03:25:00] <bad at​ vijya> well
L298[03:25:04] <bad at​ vijya> i don't have integrated graphics
L299[03:25:34] <i develo​p things> Simple
L300[03:25:55] <i develo​p things> Don’t buy n🅱️idia
L301[03:26:10] <ThePi​Guy24> ^
L302[03:29:32] <bad at​ vijya> yay, make_config works
L303[03:29:38] <bad at​ vijya> it's fucking cursed but it works
L304[03:29:50] <Brisingr​Aerowing> I've had very few issues with the card in my current system. My old laptop did get a bugged driver in the hour it was on their servers, which caused repeated blue screens.
L305[03:30:04] <Brisingr​Aerowing> That required a reinstall.
L306[03:30:14] <Brisingr​Aerowing> Which I had been needing to do anyways.
L307[03:35:08] <bad at​ vijya> oh boy
L308[03:35:14] <bad at​ vijya> i can't open any new OpenGL contexts
L309[03:35:40] <bad at​ vijya> `X Error of failed request: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)`
L310[03:35:46] <bad at​ vijya> time to reboot because nvidia is a fuck
L311[03:35:48] <bad at​ vijya> >->
L312[03:36:01] <bad at​ vijya> and, of course, i can't just restart X
L313[03:36:01] <bad at​ vijya> no
L314[03:36:13] <bad at​ vijya> nvidia drivers break if you try to go into text mode
L315[03:36:24] <bad at​ vijya> oooor not
L316[03:36:25] <bad at​ vijya> wtf
L317[03:43:02] <Izaya> it's not called novideo for no reason
L318[03:47:26] <Michiyo> I've only ran nVidia since my ATi 9600 died, number of issues 0.
L319[03:47:52] <Michiyo> lol... released in '03
L320[03:49:25] <CompanionCube> go amdgpu or go home
L321[03:49:46] <Michiyo> I love AMD, really I do. But fuck their GPUs.
L322[03:49:48] <Michiyo> :D
L323[03:50:08] <Michiyo> I've hated ATI since '04 and I'll continue to hate AMD's GPU division. lol
L324[03:53:02] <Izaya> iunno man AMD's GPU drivers are even better than Intel's nowadays
L325[03:53:26] <Ar​iri> I’ve been hearing the 5000 series is good (more specifically the 5600)
L326[03:53:36] <Ar​iri> Yet to get one myself though
L327[03:55:54] <Izaya> Still drooling over a 6800XT
L328[03:56:08] <Izaya> There are ones that only cost as much as a bike now, rather than a car.
L329[04:01:20] <Izaya> I will admit the 500 series is pretty phoned in
L330[04:01:28] <Izaya> it's mostly the same hardware as the 300 series
L331[04:01:53] <Izaya> the 590 is an overclocked 580 which is an overclocked 480 which is an overclocked 390X or so
L332[04:03:11] <Izaya> cute https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Orel_spacecraft_2020_stamp_of_Russia.jpg
L333[04:23:46] <Ariri> indeed
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L335[04:26:13] <oldmac> hallo
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L337[04:35:24] <Ariri> 'ello
L338[04:38:28] <bad at​ vijya> god
L339[04:38:39] * Amanda tucks in around Elfi, yawns
L340[04:38:40] <bad at​ vijya> nvidia angers me
L341[04:38:55] <Amanda> Oh, that's whereall the tiredscamefrom. I didn't notice it was almost 00.00
L342[04:42:38] <i_develop_things> VLE remembers the last line you edited in a file now :)
L343[04:42:49] <Izaya> is that configurable?
L344[04:42:54] <Izaya> because I hate that
L345[04:45:19] <Ariri> Izaya, have you used the pulse drill in KSP? Not sure how I should configure it for Mun ISRU mining https://lcars5201.ddns.net/index.php/s/a3J2mKgK2bgoeWa
L346[04:45:30] <Ariri> Or should I just use the vanilla excavator
L347[04:45:43] <Izaya> haven't used any of the ISRU tech yet tbh
L348[04:45:47] <Izaya> none of that was in 0.18
L349[04:46:04] <Izaya> well, there was Karbonite
L350[04:46:25] <i_develop_things> Izaya: it can be
L351[04:47:13] <Ariri> Hrmm.. guess I'll stick to vanilla then
L352[04:49:47] <CompanionCube> %tonkout
L353[04:49:47] <MichiBot> Bingo! Compan​ionCube! You beat your own previous record of 3 hours, 40 minutes and 4 seconds (By 3 minutes and 24 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L354[04:49:48] <MichiBot> Compan​ionCube has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.003 tonk points! plus 0.004 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 0.24315, Position #3 Need 0.00879 more points to pass Va​ur!
L355[04:50:07] <CompanionCube> Soon(tm) is coming.
L356[04:54:04] <Amanda> Right, night nerds
L357[04:54:28] * Amanda loses cohesion, turning into a pile of floof around Elfi
L358[04:54:43] <Izaya> o/
L359[04:54:55] <i_develop_things> file position caching is now hidden behind a config option
L360[04:54:57] <i_develop_things> you're welcome
L361[04:55:34] <Izaya> :)
L362[04:57:17] <i_develop_things> VLE is still only ("only") about 850 lines of code, comments and whitespace included, when all bundled into one file
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L364[04:57:55] <i_develop_things> 840 actually
L365[05:02:25] <i_develop_things> ~65 lines of whitespace and comments if i'm counting correctly
L366[05:03:51] <i_develop_things> minifies by almost 50%
L367[05:07:46] <Izaya> I mean there's no issue with having all the fancy stuff on by default
L368[05:07:56] <Izaya> I'm just the person that usually does touch .vimrc on a new system
L369[05:08:26] <Izaya> in other news, CP2077 runs about 30% better under Proton-6.1-GE-1
L370[05:10:38] <i_develop_things> heh, i'll probably have it enable by default - syntax highlighting already is
L371[05:11:03] <i_develop_things> because if for WHATEVER REASON you are a weirdo who doesn't want syntax highlighting, cool, you can do that
L372[05:11:10] <Izaya> valid
L373[05:12:46] <i_develop_things> so far ~/.vlerc allows you to customize colors, and toggle last-line caching and syntax highlighting
L374[05:13:22] <i_develop_things> and with that, VLE is now way more usable for me
L375[05:13:34] <Izaya> yay
L376[05:14:15] <Izaya> my opinions on the matter are probably related to how I tend to use vim
L377[05:14:21] <i_develop_things> as a lightweight-ish vim alternative i think it now works pretty well
L378[05:14:25] <i_develop_things> makes sense
L379[05:14:42] <Izaya> that is, either I'm editing config files (and it's probably best if I start at the start), or as a tab in a terminal that I leave open for the entire editing session
L380[05:14:55] <i_develop_things> fair
L381[05:15:02] <Izaya> so it provides little benefit to actually programming but is detrimental to config file editing
L382[05:15:26] <Izaya> in OC I can see it being much more useful if you're not in a situation where you can use multiple terminals
L383[05:15:39] <i_develop_things> i tend to pop in and out of files a lot in one terminal session rather than use multiple terminals because i can't be bothered to use konsole tabs
L384[05:15:47] <i_develop_things> yeah
L385[05:15:59] <i_develop_things> VLE would probablt *work* in OC, but i wouldn't call it pleasant
L386[05:16:06] <i_develop_things> compared to TLE it's horribly inefficient
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L389[05:28:39] <Izaya> rocketry time
L390[05:29:09] <Izaya> now that I landed someone on the mun some nerd wants to orbit it
L391[05:29:13] <Izaya> alright this can be organised
L392[05:29:16] <Izaya> >.>
L393[05:34:59] <Izaya> so, some modpack suggested additions: "KSP Rescue Contract Fix" and "Contract Pack: Tourism Plus"
L394[05:45:29] <bad at​ vijya> i need to make my editor
L395[05:45:31] <bad at​ vijya> at some point
L396[05:49:31] <i_develop_things> tfw >want to test VT100 design >no compatible software >compatibility layer for OpenOs is too much work thanks to architecture
L397[05:49:34] <i_develop_things> OpenOS*
L398[05:50:25] <i_develop_things> it should in theory be at least slightly faster than the paragon one though
L399[05:50:43] <i_develop_things> izaya: would you perhaps be interested in a faster VT100 emulator, if it does prove to be faster?
L400[05:50:51] <i_develop_things> (for PsychOS)
L401[05:51:12] <Izaya> potentially
L402[05:51:33] <i_develop_things> i don't yet *know* if it's faster or not but once i find out i'll let you know
L403[05:51:37] <Izaya> I wouldn't be opposed to having it as an optional kernel module, certainly, even if I decide it's too complicated for main use
L404[05:51:41] <i_develop_things> :P
L405[05:51:53] <Izaya> which is my main metric tbh
L406[05:52:06] <i_develop_things> it's the same one used in https://github.com/ocawesome101/openforth, though it'll have more features by the time i'm done with it
L407[05:52:53] <i_develop_things> main optimization is string.find rather than iterating over every char in the string
L408[05:53:08] <Izaya> aah
L409[05:53:17] <i_develop_things> also memory friendliness because terminal streams are just objects
L410[05:53:50] <i_develop_things> you'd probably have to rewrite the text input logic, that's a bit of a placeholder currently
L411[05:54:03] <i_develop_things> there's no good way to, for example, respond to \27[6n
L412[06:21:59] <i_develop_things> i shall now go to bed
L413[06:22:00] <i_develop_things> godnight
L414[06:22:03] <i_develop_things> goodnight even
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L416[06:59:02] <Gala​xtone> whats the best way to prevent ctrl c and ctrl alt c on opencomputers?
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L418[08:17:12] <Forec​aster> @Galaxtone `ctrl + c` only does something if you catch the `interrupted ` event
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L420[09:03:49] <Michiyo> @Forecaster forgot about Dre
L421[09:07:20] <ThePiGuy24> But Dre is dead and locked in eminem's basement
L422[09:54:39] <Forec​aster> I realised the solution to the jamming issue!
L423[09:55:05] <Forec​aster> I name the items correctly but also add a data field with the goods name
L424[09:55:45] <Forec​aster> I'll have to assume the item is named correctly, use that to filter input to only pull in items whose storage is not full
L425[09:56:09] <Forec​aster> then use the tag reader to verify the name hasn't been changed, and if it has simply destroy the stack
L426[09:58:20] <Forec​aster> I put the solution right in front of my own face the entire time...
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L430[10:23:46] <Forec​aster> time to re-write the input method... again
L431[10:28:50] <Va​ur> %tonk
L432[10:28:52] <MichiBot> Holy box full of worms Batman! Va​ur! You beat Compan​ionCube's previous record of <0 (By 5 hours, 39 minutes and 3 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L433[10:28:53] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 5 hours, 39 minutes and 3 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.00565 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2 => #1. (Overtook Forecaster)
L434[10:29:04] <Forec​aster> D:<
L435[10:33:49] <Ariri> Final iteration of my initial Mun colony (w/o greenhouse), I think: https://lcars5201.ddns.net/index.php/s/WR5NeRgKBQ9nxYL/preview
L436[10:34:25] <Va​ur> %sip
L437[10:34:26] <MichiBot> You drink a dull rubium potion (New!). Some tonk points fly by. Vaur caught 0.084 tonk points.
L438[10:34:46] <Va​ur> oh dear
L439[10:37:39] <Mr. Al​ Patino> %sip
L440[10:37:39] <MichiBot> You drink a molten dalekanium potion (New!). Mr. Al Patino falls into a shaft and drop 5 floors!
L441[10:40:42] <M​GR> Izaya, the 400 series has completely different hardware to the 300 series
L442[10:41:42] <Izaya> oh, I was thinking the 285
L443[10:42:19] <Izaya> the 390 was GCN2, the 285 GCN3, the 400 and 500 series GCN4
L444[10:42:32] <M​GR> Yes
L445[10:42:35] <Izaya> 4 having relatively minor changes
L446[10:42:42] * Izaya shrugs
L447[10:42:57] <Izaya> nonetheless, still pretty phoned in :p
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L450[10:55:36] <TureckyHuy> hello'
L451[10:55:41] <IAmNotOk> хело пендосы
L452[10:55:49] <TureckyHuy> ?
L453[10:55:49] <IAmNotOk> hi
L454[10:55:50] <Forec​aster> Hi
L455[10:56:17] <TureckyHuy> no ddos pls
L456[10:56:43] <TureckyHuy> yes
L457[10:56:49] <TureckyHuy> or no?
L458[10:57:05] <TureckyHuy> jojojojojojojojo
L459[10:57:15] <IAmNotOk> YES, I AM
L460[10:57:29] <TureckyHuy> Hesayam
L461[10:58:03] <IAmNotOk> очень чая хочеца
L462[10:59:29] <Forec​aster> please use english in this chat
L463[11:00:02] <IAmNotOk> bowa
L464[11:00:11] <TureckyHuy> bowl?
L465[11:00:17] <TureckyHuy> Brawl Stars
L466[11:00:20] <IAmNotOk> bowa
L467[11:01:03] <IAmNotOk> pedik
L468[11:01:14] <IAmNotOk> gay
L469[11:01:24] <TureckyHuy> yay
L470[11:01:26] <IAmNotOk> oh shit im sorry
L471[11:03:35] <Forec​aster> hm... this is a problem... https://tinyurl.com/yxmwk8ku
L472[11:03:53] <Forec​aster> how do I ensure the order of the data doesn't change...
L473[11:04:08] <ThePi​Guy24> Нет Русский Пожалуйста
L474[11:04:08] <Forec​aster> I guess by not using the serializer and building the string myself
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L477[11:17:58] <Forec​aster> my original design for the input is gonna have to be adjusted a bit...
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L480[11:18:58] <Forec​aster> the only way I've found to prevent deadlocking on the user side now is to put the cart unloader right up against the input, since it allows only inputting a set amount of stacks of each item into it
L481[11:19:12] <Forec​aster> but that takes up a lot of space around the input https://tinyurl.com/y5wwzs2f
L482[11:19:30] <Forec​aster> which means they're gonna have to be further apart that I originally intended
L483[11:21:17] <Va​ur> %sip
L484[11:21:17] <MichiBot> You drink a diluted ferozium potion (New!). Vaur is suddenly wearing a tiny glove on each finger.
L485[11:25:33] <Forec​aster> though you could use other logistics systems to avoid this issue, but I don't want to require having to do that
L486[11:35:13] <Ariri> %choose sleep now or make colony launch ships
L487[11:35:13] <MichiBot> Ar​iri: Why not both? Okay fine. "sleep now".
L488[11:53:17] <B​ob> why is a serialized table returned instead 🤔 and then you'd just need to have a List of fields by priority
L489[11:53:34] <Forec​aster> what
L490[11:54:28] <B​ob> is this just NBT ?
L491[11:54:47] <Forec​aster> it's a string
L492[11:54:48] <M​GR> Amanda, I can confirm that I only use my hydrogen for research and deuterium production
L493[11:56:59] <Forec​aster> @Bob it works like a OS mag card
L494[11:57:17] <Forec​aster> @Bob it works like an/ OS mag card [Edited]
L495[11:57:21] <B​ob> so you can store arbitrary data ?
L496[11:57:35] <B​ob> as a string
L497[11:57:39] <Forec​aster> yes
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L500[12:46:02] <Va​ur> %sip
L501[12:46:03] <MichiBot> You drink a resonating citrus potion (New!). Vaur's radiation level goes up by 3. Vaur's radiation level is 3.
L502[13:20:03] <Amanda> %give MichiBot a quantum computer that goes Ding!
L503[13:20:04] * MichiBot accepts the quantum computer that goes Ding! and adds it to her inventory
L504[13:34:56] <Forec​aster> %tonk
L505[13:34:58] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Forecaster, you were not able to beat Vaur's record of 5 hours, 39 minutes and 3 seconds this time. 3 hours, 6 minutes and 6 seconds were wasted! Missed by 2 hours, 32 minutes and 56 seconds!
L506[13:35:08] <Forec​aster> ah dang
L507[13:35:13] <Forec​aster> %sip
L508[13:35:14] <MichiBot> You drink a sweet radiation potion (New!). Forecaster feels the need to use "%shell".
L509[13:35:36] <Forec​aster> %shell "vaur" "" "" random potion
L510[13:35:36] <MichiBot> Forec​aster loads random into a shell and fires it. It strikes the ground near vaur, Keri​dos, and inf​ina. They take 1d6 => 4, 1d6 => 4, and 1d6 => 2 splash damage respectively.
L511[13:35:55] <Forec​aster> huh
L512[14:11:36] <Forec​aster> Amanda: https://youtu.be/dN3wEdK_vxw
L513[14:11:37] <MichiBot> Trailer Park Boys - The Kittyman Sea Shanty | length: 1m 26s | Likes: 11,237 Dislikes: 51 Views: 104,219 | by Trailer Park Boys | Published On 30/1/2021
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L515[14:23:42] <Va​ur> %sip
L516[14:23:43] <MichiBot> You drink a prickly cyan potion (New!). The ghost of a plant haunts Vaur until they exit the room.
L517[14:39:42] <Elfi> %quaff
L518[14:39:42] <MichiBot> You drink a smelly electrum potion (New!). Elfi feels slightly more agile.
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L520[14:45:42] <MichiBot> @mgr REMINDER: tell Amanda what you're doing with your excess H2
L521[14:45:51] <M​GR> I did
L522[14:46:11] <M​GR> I'm about to use a whole lot more to start making strange matter
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L525[15:07:51] <Amanda> @mgr I've not got the research going yet to test for myself, but: warp cores generated in one system, interplanetary logistics hub with lots of vessels, then in every other system put a receiver, with no vessels, should keep every other system stocked with them?
L526[15:08:27] <Amanda> And that'll stop the warp cores transit going sublight
L527[15:08:36] <M​GR> I think so
L528[15:08:54] <M​GR> I've only tinkered with interstellar logistics a little bit
L529[15:09:01] <M​GR> But I think that'll work
L530[15:11:31] <Forec​aster> I wish there was a "preserve background" in `gpu.set`
L531[15:11:49] <Forec​aster> it'd make this a lot easier https://tinyurl.com/y458d9zb
L532[15:16:49] <Forec​aster> hm, I can get the background color though... I suppose that works
L533[15:17:16] <Forec​aster> but I have to call set once per character which is a bit unfortunate
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L535[15:47:10] <Forec​aster> much better https://tinyurl.com/y55cxp3z
L536[15:50:07] <Forec​aster> now it's much more obvious that it will time out if you don't punch that button quickly enough
L537[15:54:09] <Forec​aster> hm, I wonder how difficult it would be to add a computer controlled ic2 power sink block
L538[15:54:29] <Forec​aster> oh wait
L539[15:54:36] <Forec​aster> I could just use batteries I suppose
L540[15:55:45] <Forec​aster> It'd be a bit fiddly though, and I'd be limited to increments of 10k EU at the lowest...
L541[15:55:47] <Brisingr​Aerowing> https://tinyurl.com/y6duvbav
L542[15:56:26] <Forec​aster> orrrrr
L543[15:56:37] <Forec​aster> could I use a debug card to manipulate an ic2 te...
L544[15:58:00] <Brisingr​Aerowing> Next thing you know: BOOM!
L545[16:10:08] <Forec​aster> well, that was fairly easy
L546[16:14:36] <Va​ur> %sip
L547[16:14:37] <MichiBot> You drink a smooth weather potion (New!). The bottle turns into a sword.
L548[16:22:38] <Forec​aster> well, it sort of works
L549[16:22:40] <Forec​aster> https://tinyurl.com/y3v5mmc5
L550[16:23:10] <Forec​aster> transferred 40k units from a batbox into an empty MFSU
L551[16:23:39] <Forec​aster> mid-transfer I ran a script that got the power level, subtracted 10k and set it (by setting the nbt data)
L552[16:24:02] <Forec​aster> it caused a loss of 32 units
L553[16:24:13] <Forec​aster> which is exactly a ticks worth
L554[16:25:47] <Forec​aster> that's... probably acceptable
L555[16:26:48] <Forec​aster> I could eliminate the loss completely by setting up a switch that stops the block accepting power while it's being manipulated, but that's probably overkill
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L557[17:16:21] <Va​ur> %sip
L558[17:16:21] <MichiBot> You drink a smelly röd potion (New!). Vaur falls into a shaft and drop 2 floors!
L559[17:38:57] <Optional o​pt = null;> %sip
L560[17:38:57] <MichiBot> You drink a shiny tuna potion (New!). Optional opt = null;'s favourite skin is suddenly fire.
L561[17:39:08] <Optional o​pt = null;> skin??? no!!
L562[17:51:08] <Forec​aster> notice it doesn't say "on"
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L565[17:53:01] <Forec​aster> hm, I could implement a level system and just have factories level up after x productive cycles (where something was actually produced)
L566[17:53:37] <Forec​aster> maybe I'll do that later after having tested the system
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L569[18:10:49] <Va​ur> %sip
L570[18:10:50] <MichiBot> You drink a muddy naqahdah potion (New!). Vaur sees the sky briefly flash solid dark blue then go back to normal.
L571[18:18:44] <minas_tirith> Nice
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L578[18:59:06] <bad at​ vijya> super multi boot is coming along
L579[18:59:10] <bad at​ vijya> 👀
L580[18:59:48] <bad at​ vijya> i love how 2hu music comes up in the youtube recommended for the Project Wingman OST
L581[19:02:27] <bad at​ vijya> from a discord guild
L582[19:02:32] <bad at​ vijya> `Problem is discord disabled animated PNGs literally for the purpose of stickers -- People were doing that so they disabled playing of APNG except if it's a "verified sticker"`
L583[19:02:36] <bad at​ vijya> 🤮
L584[19:10:14] <Ariri> Also because basic users were using it for animated icons, iirc
L585[19:10:58] <minas_tirith> nitro is an interesting way of funding the site
L586[19:21:27] <Forec​aster> levels could increase internal storage, give a tiny bonus to produced goods
L587[19:21:29] <Forec​aster> what else...
L588[19:21:30] <Forec​aster> hm
L589[19:22:02] <Forec​aster> maybe at a certain level the factory starts requiring power to operate
L590[19:23:39] <Forec​aster> also need to test the sink function
L591[19:28:55] <bad at​ vijya> so, today in Plane Game™️ stuff
L592[19:29:42] <bad at​ vijya> i'm trying to figure out how to make the Foxbat stand out from the Foxhound, so I made the Foxbat have more air to ground stuff, like bombs and anti-ship missiles
L593[19:29:59] <bad at​ vijya> also, of course, I have Copyright Safe Names™️ ready for many of the planes
L594[19:31:36] <Forec​aster> I also forgot the part that registers deliveries when I rewrote the input function...
L595[19:31:38] <Forec​aster> oops
L596[19:32:37] <bad at​ vijya> like, the Foxbat becomes the Kitfox and the Foxhound becomes the Corsac, the Tornado becomes the Whirlwind, etc
L597[19:35:55] <minas_tirith> Its weird I don't understand Dutch
L598[19:36:22] <Teris> Is it an obscure language?
L599[19:38:03] <minas_tirith> Teris, it should not be at all for someone who knows Englis
L600[19:38:04] <minas_tirith> Teris, it should not be at all for someone who knows English
L601[19:38:28] <Teris> Yes Drax
L602[19:38:42] <minas_tirith> Its such a shame I can't read Dutch
L603[19:38:58] <minas_tirith> As someone who knows english, it should come naturally to me
L604[19:39:03] <Forec​aster> oh dear https://tinyurl.com/y5avn7rt
L605[19:39:13] <Forec​aster> a value of 1 per item might be too much...
L606[19:40:44] <Forec​aster> it's not even applying any bonus for distance yet I don't think
L607[19:41:37] <Forec​aster> this is after 2 loads, one worth $1 per item, the other $5 https://tinyurl.com/y4u4xnfo
L608[19:45:39] <bad at​ vijya> all the MiGs have become fox related just because
L609[20:19:23] <Ar​iri> An interesting watch: https://youtu.be/_JraAeL3op8
L610[20:19:23] <MichiBot> Meet SpaceX’s Engine Architect and Employee #1: Tom Mueller | length: 13m 29s | Likes: 1,784 Dislikes: 14 Views: 14,368 | by I Need More Space | Published On 31/1/2021
L611[20:20:20] <Ar​iri> bad at vijya: you can justify it because missiles are referred to as Fox [#] iirc
L612[20:22:32] <bad at​ vijya> well
L613[20:22:48] <bad at​ vijya> Ariri: it started because I was renaming the Foxbat and Foxhound
L614[20:25:25] <Ar​iri> Neato
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L618[20:51:34] <Va​ur> %tonkout
L619[20:51:35] <MichiBot> Dagnabbit! Va​ur! You beat your own previous record of 5 hours, 39 minutes and 3 seconds (By 1 hour, 37 minutes and 33 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L620[20:51:36] <MichiBot> Va​ur has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.007 tonk points! plus 0.012 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 0.36059, Position #1
L621[20:52:14] <Va​ur> %sip
L622[20:52:15] <MichiBot> You drink a dull transparent potion (New!). After drinking the potion Vaur notices a label that says "Side effects may include giggle fits and excessive monologuing."
L623[20:55:07] <CompanionCube> rip me
L624[20:56:21] <CompanionCube> soon(tm) is delayed
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L629[21:03:08] <bad at​ vijya> the cursed is coming https://tinyurl.com/yyl3j4vl
L630[21:03:17] <bad at​ vijya> (all in the EEPROM btw)
L631[21:03:21] <bad at​ vijya> and not even minified!
L632[21:17:29] <Bloody​Rain2k> nice
L633[21:19:23] <Bloody​Rain2k> I got two questions: which bots here are just for fun and can be blocked?
L634[21:19:24] <Bloody​Rain2k> The more important one: I'm messing around with a robot again and it seems like all kinds of functions that could be used to test for what blocks are next to it, like `getInventoryName()` or such, throw errors when there's no block. The computer when using an adapter or transposer didn't do that. Is that intended or is something broken in my install/version?
L635[21:19:45] <i develo​p things> first, %corded
L636[21:19:45] <MichiBot> i develo​p things: Cor​ded is a relay between IRC and Discord. The user talking is between the <>
L637[21:19:55] <i develo​p things> second, `pcall`
L638[21:20:55] <Bloody​Rain2k> ok, so it's normal that on one platform the functions return nils and on another they throw errors? <_< wat
L639[21:24:34] <i develo​p things> it does seem inconsistent
L640[21:24:42] <i develo​p things> %s/seem/sound/
L641[21:24:58] <Bloody​Rain2k> sigh, time to fire up 1.7.10 and compare it
L642[21:42:05] <i develo​p things> programmers discussing legal documents leads to some interesting puns
L643[21:45:36] <i develo​p things> https://tinyurl.com/yxfwvpxt
L644[21:48:36] <Bloody​Rain2k> heh
L645[21:49:22] <Bloody​Rain2k> anyways, the results in 1.7.10 are the same as in 1.12.2: sides 0,1,3 can be checked and 2,4,5 = error
L646[21:49:34] <Bloody​Rain2k> it can check left, front and whatever 3 was
L647[21:50:28] <Bloody​Rain2k> ok, never mind, it was down, not left
L648[21:50:44] <Bloody​Rain2k> so I guess front, up and down, and all others just crash
L649[21:50:57] <Bloody​Rain2k> instead of just always returning nil 😑
L650[21:53:12] <Bloody​Rain2k> kinda a pitty that it can't act sideways at least for inventory stuff
L651[21:54:54] <Kristo​pher38> robots generally can only interact with stuff above, below, and in front of them
L652[21:55:30] <Kristo​pher38> i can't think of an example where they could interact with stuff sideways/behind them
L653[21:55:40] <Kristo​pher38> i can't think of an example where they interact with stuff sideways/behind them [Edited]
L654[21:56:00] <Kristo​pher38> the errors you're getting are intentional
L655[21:56:10] <Kristo​pher38> i.e. by design
L656[21:56:16] <Kristo​pher38> you're trying to use an unsupported side
L657[21:56:37] <Kristo​pher38> while when using a transposer with a computer, all sides are supported
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L659[22:13:33] <Bloody​Rain2k> I wish I could hook a T2 or T3 screen up to the robot, that tiny built in screen is so awful for figuring out how to work with the parts
L660[22:15:15] <Forec​aster> `myscript.lua > output.txt`
L661[22:22:56] <Bloody​Rain2k> well ok, that works for scripts, but what about the lua interpreter?
L662[22:25:13] <Forec​aster> https://tinyurl.com/y2fl9zhz
L663[22:29:04] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L664[22:29:04] <MichiBot> Awesome! Compan​ionCube! You beat Va​ur's previous record of <0 (By 1 hour, 37 minutes and 29 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L665[22:29:05] <MichiBot> CompanionCube's new record is 1 hour, 37 minutes and 29 seconds! CompanionCube also gained 0.00162 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #3. Need 0.00841 more points to pass Forec​aster!
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L667[23:08:03] <bad at​ vijya> lmao
L668[23:08:19] <bad at​ vijya> "Experience writing applications with strongly typed languages (C / C++ / C# / Java / Golang a bonus)"
L669[23:08:24] <bad at​ vijya> >C
L670[23:08:27] <bad at​ vijya> >strongly typed
L671[23:08:40] <bad at​ vijya> [laughs in void pointer]
L672[23:09:29] <minas_tirith> Using a void* is solely your choice
L673[23:09:36] <Izaya> C has types?
L674[23:09:40] <Izaya> :^)
L675[23:09:44] <minas_tirith> C is very pleasant
L676[23:10:29] <minas_tirith> Now the lack of templates can cause some annoyance
L677[23:10:39] <minas_tirith> Even so void* can definitely be avoided in many instances
L678[23:11:04] <minas_tirith> See Linux kernel's generic linked list implementation for an interesting example
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L680[23:17:20] <Amanda> I highly doubt the Linux kernel is avoiding void* for a generic linked list
L681[23:19:20] <minas_tirith> It definitely had a rather creative solution at least
L682[23:19:23] <minas_tirith> Let me check
L683[23:26:01] <minas_tirith> Amanda, it uses some macro trickery and takes advantage that the pointer to a struct is the pointer to the first element
L684[23:28:32] <Bloody​Rain2k> `craft([count: number]): boolean` why doesn't this function just return the amount of items it crafted? And why are booleans returned as floats? Or is that just lua being lua?...
L685[23:29:02] <Izaya> ~w crafting
L686[23:29:02] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:crafting
L687[23:29:31] <Izaya> well
L688[23:29:38] <Izaya> it returns true or false :D
L689[23:29:55] <Izaya> guess you'd just have to check the count before and after to find out how many were crafted if it returns true
L690[23:30:24] <Forec​aster> a recipe can output any amount of items
L691[23:31:30] <Forec​aster> the craft method presumably isn't aware of that amount
L692[23:32:07] <Bloody​Rain2k> which was my question, why isn't it? <_<
L693[23:32:26] <Forec​aster> maybe it would've made it slower or something
L694[23:32:43] <Izaya> Amanda: https://kartoffel.cafe/media/762468799ccc4624662b287f7814703d3ac601e6f855e2133f8fd8ed1007d9d4.webm
L695[23:32:45] <Bloody​Rain2k> also the inventory_controller offers more `suckFrom` functions than the docs show
L696[23:32:57] <Amanda> Izaya: rude!
L697[23:33:15] <Forec​aster> the online wiki isn't guaranteed to be up to date
L698[23:33:22] <Forec​aster> the in-game manual should be though
L699[23:33:26] <Bloody​Rain2k> ok
L700[23:33:33] <Amanda> %choose continue shooting at the dyson swarm or do some netops stuff
L701[23:33:34] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Wait, what was the question again? Uhh... "continue shooting at the dyson swarm"?
L702[23:33:44] <Forec​aster> I usually just query for methods using the lua prompt though
L703[23:34:00] <Bloody​Rain2k> I did too, except that the explaination didn't make sense for me
L704[23:34:14] <minas_tirith> Amanda, no
L705[23:34:20] <minas_tirith> I was wrong
L706[23:34:26] <Izaya> what a shock
L707[23:34:30] <minas_tirith> Rather it uses a separate structure to store the next and prev pointers
L708[23:34:30] <Bloody​Rain2k> nor did the fact that there were 3+ `suckFrom` functions and two seemed to be for different inventories but not explaining WHICH
L709[23:34:45] <Forec​aster> what
L710[23:34:48] <minas_tirith> and uses offset from start of struct to recompute base pointer addresss
L711[23:34:55] <Bloody​Rain2k> But I'll ask the manual tomorrow, for now the day's over
L712[23:35:02] <minas_tirith> stil avoids void*
L713[23:35:02] <Bloody​Rain2k> But I'll ask the manual tomorrow, for now the day's over 🛏️ [Edited]
L714[23:35:27] <minas_tirith> Intead makes the linking generic by making the linking struct list_head a field inside whatever struct you have defined
L715[23:35:35] <minas_tirith> Very clever trick
L716[23:35:52] <Izaya> [Edited]
L717[23:44:11] <minas_tirith> Amanda, so yes
L718[23:44:19] <minas_tirith> Linux kernel avoids void* for linked lists
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