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L3[00:15:05] <Shuud​oushi> *cries in poor* https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TN3f2V
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L5[00:28:49] <Izaya> 4790 eternally stronk
L6[00:40:13] <Ko​dos> How hard would a mod be that added an extra tooltip to everything crafted that says who crafted it
L7[00:42:59] <Michiyo> @Kodos there is a `ItemCraftedEvent` event in forge so.. in theory easy enough.
L8[00:43:17] <Michiyo> Might be harder with mods that add their own tooltip stuff
L9[00:45:02] <Ko​dos> I'm just tired of thieves on this server I play on
L10[00:45:08] <Ko​dos> I want to prove that's my dragonforge they stole
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L12[00:47:47] <Michiyo> Hmm actually.. I'm not sure how to add tooltips to other items.. lo
L13[00:47:48] <Michiyo> lol*
L14[00:49:53] <Michiyo> @Kodos I'll play with it if/when I get time
L15[00:49:59] <Michiyo> in theory though it SHOULD be possible
L16[00:50:13] <Michiyo> Issue is going to be stuff that autocrafts...
L17[00:51:01] <Ko​dos> It's a pretty basic pack tbh
L18[00:51:05] <Ko​dos> There's not really anything that can autocraft
L19[00:51:14] <Ko​dos> The issue you'll have is that it's a 1.16.4 pack lmao
L20[00:51:48] <Michiyo> Ah
L21[00:51:49] <Michiyo> I'm out.
L22[00:51:50] <Michiyo> :P
L23[00:52:27] <i develo​p things> datapack might do it
L24[00:55:22] <Dur​ex77> do OC has ability to store data in binary files without converting table into string?
L25[00:55:35] <Izaya> files are strings
L26[00:55:51] <Dur​ex77> and that is problem that I have
L27[00:55:55] <Dur​ex77> and that is a problem that I have [Edited]
L28[00:56:07] <Vampyre> you probably want serialization?
L29[00:56:26] <Dur​ex77> I have memory troubles when I serialize tables in to strings
L30[00:56:35] <Dur​ex77> I have memory troubles when I serialize tables into strings [Edited]
L31[00:56:44] <Vampyre> then your tables are too big
L32[00:56:52] <Dur​ex77> yep I know it
L33[00:56:52] <Vampyre> chop them up
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L35[00:57:18] <Dur​ex77> the problem is that saving tables as a text is memory consuming
L36[00:57:35] <Izaya> another option may be to directly serialise them to disk rather than doing the serialise step separately
L37[00:57:51] <Izaya> or writing to a simpler format like CSV, if applicable
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L39[00:58:13] <Dur​ex77> hmm custom saving into file should work
L40[00:58:28] <Kristo​pher38> while you're at it you could invent your own serialization format
L41[00:58:46] <Kristo​pher38> to serialize tables into some binary structure
L42[00:58:50] <Dur​ex77> yep it should work
L43[00:59:11] <Kristo​pher38> serialize into some data structure stored as binary file*
L44[00:59:15] <Vampyre> a simple recursive table walk and calling serialize on all childs without tables?
L45[00:59:31] <Vampyre> dunno how your dataastructure looks...
L46[00:59:46] <Kristo​pher38> but that's probably overkill
L47[00:59:59] <Kristo​pher38> try custom serialization to text first
L48[01:00:10] <Dur​ex77> {name: 'minecraft:diamond', xdata:{[1][1][1]: {size: 10}}
L49[01:00:15] <Dur​ex77> xdata could be too big
L50[01:00:51] <Vampyre> and it's just flat objects like that?
L51[01:01:02] <Vampyre> then yeah, custom serialization
L52[01:01:39] <Vampyre> s/flat / a flat array of/
L53[01:01:40] <MichiBot> <Vampyre> and it's just a flat array ofobjects like that?
L54[01:01:47] <Vampyre> something like that
L55[01:10:41] <Shuud​oushi> @Michiyo don't make it a tool tip, add it to Opensecurity as something you can do with one of the components
L56[01:10:56] <Michiyo> lmao
L57[01:11:55] <Shuud​oushi> Gotta admit, not a terrible idea and slightly easier to do
L58[01:12:10] <Shuud​oushi> Not by a whole fucking lot, but slightly
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L61[01:18:01] <Michiyo> @Shuudoushi main issue there is.... OC and therefore OS isn't on 1.16.4
L62[01:18:05] <Michiyo> which Kodos needs.. lol
L63[01:19:21] <Shuud​oushi> Oof, fair enough
L64[01:20:07] <Shuud​oushi> Not a bad idea for current version of OS though. Add the functionality to like the rfid reader or something.
L65[01:29:16] <Ko​dos> Maybe some sort of scanner block that has a one slot GUI for 'scanning' items, where you can find things out like who made it etc
L66[01:31:02] <Izaya> is there any practical difference between WD green and WD blue SSDs if they're both <$50?
L67[01:33:48] <Shuud​oushi> Get blue
L68[01:34:37] <Izaya> it's only an extra $10, might as well
L69[01:37:15] <Va​ur> %tonkout
L70[01:37:16] <MichiBot> Waesucks! Va​ur! You beat your own previous record of 1 hour, 53 minutes and 3 seconds (By 1 hour, 46 minutes and 30 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L71[01:37:17] <MichiBot> Va​ur has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.003 tonk points! plus 0.004 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 0.03738, Position #3 Need 0.00655 more points to pass ThePi​Guy24!
L72[01:47:59] <Kristo​pher38> Izaya: WD greens have draconic energy saving firmware put in place
L73[01:48:07] <Kristo​pher38> which can actually slow your shit down
L74[01:48:47] <Izaya> mmm
L75[01:48:54] <Izaya> better suited to laptops ig
L76[01:58:40] <Shuud​oushi> One wouldn't have thought that piping a ssh key to a server would be this CPU intensive... I really hate windows some times...
L77[01:59:19] <Michiyo> WTF are you doing? lol
L78[02:00:08] <Shuud​oushi> Made a preshared ssh key, sent to server, laptop has said "fuck your shit, I'm done"...
L79[02:01:08] * Michiyo blinks
L80[02:01:11] <Michiyo> O..kay
L81[02:01:16] <Shuud​oushi> I can still move the mouse every few hundred CPU cycles, so it's not completely dead yet...
L82[02:01:28] <Michiyo> that's.. I mean one way to get the key to the server.
L83[02:01:41] <Shuud​oushi> I'm pretty sure I actually just broke powershell XD
L84[02:02:07] <Izaya> may I suggest
L85[02:02:12] <Michiyo> It's not.. like a GOOD way to get the key to the server.
L86[02:02:15] <Izaya> cat ~/.ssh/id_rsa
L87[02:02:15] <Shuud​oushi> Ssh-copy-id isn't supported in powershell 7 for some reason, so I went with the fall back...
L88[02:02:16] <Izaya> copy
L89[02:02:18] <Izaya> log in
L90[02:02:20] <Izaya> paste
L91[02:02:54] <Shuud​oushi> Izaya gfys i thought of that RIGHT after hitting enter...
L92[02:03:24] <Izaya> I mean, ssh-copy-id is normally preferable, but uh
L93[02:03:25] <i develo​p things> ctrl-C?
L94[02:03:26] <Izaya> :D
L95[02:03:53] <Shuud​oushi> Oof, no need, powershell just gave the fucking ghost XD
L96[02:05:08] <Shuud​oushi> Oh, oh, oh, it's doing something new and interesting XD
L97[02:05:26] <Izaya> love me some slowershell
L98[02:05:37] <Shuud​oushi> Ikr lol
L99[02:05:52] <Izaya> :drakeno: powershell
L100[02:05:57] <Izaya> :drakeyes: luash
L101[02:06:01] <i develo​p things> lol
L102[02:06:01] <Shuud​oushi> Still better than the built in cmd
L103[02:06:28] <Ariri> ^
L104[02:06:30] <Izaya> That it is.
L105[02:07:06] <Shuud​oushi> "ls is an unrecognized command"
L106[02:07:06] <Shuud​oushi> So is my eat my dick you worthless fuck
L107[02:08:15] <CompanionCube> tbf powershell's ls is a lie
L108[02:09:05] <Shuud​oushi> I know, but at least it doesn't give me fucking sass
L109[02:09:40] <Izaya> it tries™
L110[02:09:52] <Shuud​oushi> Lulz
L111[02:11:09] <Shuud​oushi> Cmd: that isn't a windows native command, eat shit and die!
L112[02:11:09] <Shuud​oushi> Powershell: I'll do my best, but I can't promise anything
L113[02:12:06] <bad at​ vijya> "what's powershell doing?"
L114[02:12:11] <bad at​ vijya> "its best"
L115[02:12:16] <Shuud​oushi> XD
L116[02:13:02] <Shuud​oushi> Currently, it has my poor defenseless e-300 (a10 apu) pinned the FUCK OUT lmfao
L117[02:13:39] <Shuud​oushi> Bout to say fuck it and force a reboot, it'll be faster at this point lol
L118[02:14:04] <Izaya> powershell is a really neat concept and it's a shame it's a microsoft product
L119[02:14:36] <Shuud​oushi> Right?
L120[02:15:34] <Shuud​oushi> Well, that'll explain why autocorrect was fuckin' me extra hard... https://tinyurl.com/yxfcrnk3
L121[02:15:48] <bad at​ vijya> fair enough
L122[02:15:56] <bad at​ vijya> also ha
L123[02:16:05] <bad at​ vijya> imagine not having an A12
L124[02:16:06] <bad at​ vijya> /e
L125[02:17:23] <Shuud​oushi> Eh, $100 USD, i ain't complainin' much lol
L126[02:17:35] <Michiyo> QWERTZ... neato o_O
L127[02:17:42] <bad at​ vijya> lmao
L128[02:17:47] <bad at​ vijya> fair enough
L129[02:17:54] <bad at​ vijya> my laptop is good enough™️
L130[02:18:15] <bad at​ vijya> was a huge jump over my fuckin Satellite L305D
L131[02:18:20] <bad at​ vijya> Turion 64 X2
L132[02:18:33] <Shuud​oushi> @Michiyo yeah, decided that I want to learn german, so I switched to it to making typing in duolingo easier
L133[02:19:36] <bad at​ vijya> i can't remember anything from my german class
L134[02:20:38] <Shuud​oushi> Well, that's kinda good. At least you have a lower risk of Inari stabbing you lol
L135[02:20:49] <Izaya> Ariri: instructions unclear, obtained space ship https://redd.it/kr3yk7
L136[02:21:05] <Shuud​oushi> Lmfao
L137[02:22:25] <Shuud​oushi> Speaking of learning german, i should probably do a few more lessons while I wait for this flameing pile to reboot
L138[02:23:09] <Ko​dos> Anyone familiar with Corail's Tombstone
L139[02:25:58] <Vampyre> depends on familiar, but it's in PO3, so I know it
L140[02:26:47] <Vampyre> not familiar with any inter player or server related thing of that
L141[02:35:16] <dequbed> Sometimes I felt bad for swearing in this channel. But then Shuu came back :p
L142[02:35:45] <bad at​ vijya> aw cmon
L143[02:35:48] <bad at​ vijya> i swear all the fuckin time
L144[02:36:46] <B​ob> h e l l
L145[02:36:56] <dequbed> Yes but you don't reach the expletives-to-information density Shuu does @"bad at vijya"
L146[02:37:15] <bad at​ vijya> *anymore
L147[02:38:57] <Ariri> Izaya, basically what SG command did when making their space fleet
L148[02:38:59] <Izaya> Ariri: https://social.shadowkat.net/media/497fccd14a5c4c35a7104099a683543dacd5b4faa09ad45ad219a7f3d0a6e7e8.png
L149[02:40:51] <dequbed> Izaya: Did you unbork your server?
L150[02:40:58] <Izaya> "yes"
L151[02:41:09] <Izaya> pending additional bork
L152[02:41:38] <Izaya> ordered a replacement SSD for it though
L153[02:41:46] <dequbed> Once more, ACAB applies: All computers are broken/bricks
L154[02:42:23] <bad at​ vijya> my server has an SSD
L155[02:42:33] <bad at​ vijya> a sata one
L156[02:42:44] <bad at​ vijya> on SATA 3Gb/s
L157[02:42:54] <bad at​ vijya> but still an SSD
L158[02:43:39] <dequbed> Izaya: Apparently in CP2077 hands are classified as "Assault Rifles", taking this "right to bear arms" a bit far.
L159[02:43:51] <Ariri> Haha
L160[02:44:14] <bad at​ vijya> bear arms
L161[02:44:16] <bad at​ vijya> roar
L162[02:44:22] <Izaya> bad_at_vijya: gonna replace a normal 2.5" SATA one with an M.2 SATA one so I can hook another HDD up
L163[02:44:33] * dequbed pokes Ariri with a diamond nugget
L164[02:44:54] <Izaya> dequbed: this was the only way for the population to retain their rights to have manipulating appendages
L165[02:47:15] <dequbed> Izaya: Sounds about right.
L166[02:48:32] <bad at​ vijya> Izaya: yeah this is an M.2 SSD
L167[02:48:54] <bad at​ vijya> but i'm using an internal SATA port
L168[02:48:55] <bad at​ vijya> lmao
L169[02:49:25] <Izaya> adaptor?
L170[02:52:12] <bad at​ vijya> ye
L171[02:52:24] <bad at​ vijya> can also stick an NVMe in it but
L172[02:52:30] <bad at​ vijya> >PE2950
L173[02:53:52] <Michiyo> I fucking hate Minecraft modding
L174[02:54:13] <B​ob> Dont we all
L175[02:54:22] <B​ob> just the word Java makes me cripple
L176[02:55:08] <Michiyo> getting a NoClassDefFound with JUST the 1.16.4 MDK
L177[02:56:30] <B​ob> Lmao i couldnt get FG3 to work on 1.12.2
L178[02:56:35] <B​ob> its just fucked
L179[02:56:36] <Michiyo> never tells me WHICH class..
L180[02:56:37] <Michiyo> so neat
L181[02:56:45] <B​ob> so i gave up as soon as i wanted to dive into modding
L182[02:56:58] <B​ob> at this point i would port mods to Voxel-rs or smtg
L183[03:01:10] <Michiyo> ffs
L184[03:01:12] <Michiyo> this is stupid
L185[03:01:12] <Izaya> CompanionCube: this was linked in another channel and seems relevant to your interests https://web.archive.org/web/20170427215748/http://lispm.de/symbolics-lisp-machine-ergonomics
L186[03:01:52] <CompanionCube> :)
L187[03:04:00] <Michiyo> Whelp
L188[03:04:01] <Michiyo> fuck this
L189[03:04:04] <Michiyo> I'm out.
L190[03:04:23] <Michiyo> I tried @Kodos
L191[03:13:07] <Ko​dos> Lol no biggie
L192[03:15:02] <Michiyo> THERE WE FUCKING GO.
L193[03:15:03] <Michiyo> java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: jdk/nashorn/api/scripting/NashornScriptEngineFactory
L194[03:15:08] <Michiyo> Ok, fixable.
L195[03:16:58] <B​ob> 🦀
L196[03:16:59] <Michiyo> ... it's already set to 1.8
L197[03:24:59] <Z0id​berg> I have one thing to say about satisfactory
L198[03:25:04] <Z0id​berg> Jetpacks are @#$%^ useless
L199[03:25:17] <Z0id​berg> they need to be more op. I worked hard for those things
L200[03:25:48] <B​ob> i couldnt run that game, too demanding for a 650
L201[03:26:00] <Z0id​berg> Getting all this cool stuff and then striving for what I was hoping to be the best player attachment feature in the game and getting something unusable is like being hit in the face
L202[03:26:22] <Z0id​berg> esepecially after it took all week of playing to get to it with multiple people
L203[03:26:28] <Z0id​berg> Oh?
L204[03:26:54] <Shuud​oushi> @dequned you'll fuckin' get used to it in no time flat
L205[03:26:54] <Michiyo> ffs
L206[03:27:16] <Michiyo> who the fuck is dequned? :P
L207[03:27:50] <Michiyo> FUCK YOU FORGE
L208[03:27:53] <Michiyo> FUCK. YOU.
L209[03:28:11] <Izaya> https://fedi.valkyrie.world/media/d86222721e19126a439398c67212e03219545e0607511ec856b582d21969f02b.jpg
L210[03:28:14] <Michiyo> https://drive.pc-logix.com/s/C7RQxcSFtNM25CZ
L211[03:28:49] <B​ob> nice
L212[03:28:53] <Shuud​oushi> Dequbed* you fucking happy now aya soggy cock waffle?
L213[03:29:08] <bad at​ vijya> man
L214[03:29:14] <bad at​ vijya> i need to be more profaine
L215[03:29:25] <bad at​ vijya> profane , even
L216[03:29:43] <Shuud​oushi> Huh? That was profane?
L217[03:29:55] <Shuud​oushi> The fuck you on about?
L218[03:29:59] <bad at​ vijya> heh
L219[03:30:49] <Michiyo> %flip
L220[03:30:49] <MichiBot> Mic​hiyo: (╯°□°）╯┻━┻
L221[03:30:59] <Amanda> Profane and profane accessories
L222[03:31:07] <Michiyo> lol
L223[03:31:31] <Michiyo> WHAT THE SHIT IS A MODS.TOML?!
L224[03:31:39] <Michiyo> I hate updating to newer builds of Forge.
L225[03:31:40] <Shuud​oushi> Oh, @Michiyo your ears will be happy to know that I had to go to a voice coach to raise the pitch of my voice, so now I won't rattle your headphones off your head anymore while I'm in VC
L226[03:31:46] <Michiyo> Let's change everything for the sake of changing it!
L227[03:31:50] <A_D> its like a mcmodinfo, but toml
L228[03:32:27] <A_D> have you met the fun of the double lambdas yet?
L229[03:32:39] <Shuud​oushi> Lol, fuck that
L230[03:32:42] <Michiyo> I left off in 1.12
L231[03:32:57] <A_D> I updated my tiny serverside mod to 1.16 recently
L232[03:33:00] <A_D> 90% of the time
L233[03:33:09] <A_D> was figuring out how the hell to do that in scala and have it work
L234[03:33:32] * Amanda pads over to Elfi, covered in tireds, zzzmews
L235[03:33:37] <Amanda> Night nerds
L236[03:34:05] <bad at​ vijya> what
L237[03:34:09] <Shuud​oushi> Oh fuck... My installer is still broken...
L238[03:34:14] <bad at​ vijya> man
L239[03:34:14] <Michiyo> Night Amanda
L240[03:34:20] <bad at​ vijya> i need to get back into modding MC
L241[03:34:24] <bad at​ vijya> i almost have something ready
L242[03:34:31] <bad at​ vijya> but i have to implement the items and stuff
L243[03:34:34] <bad at​ vijya> and that's hard
L244[03:34:38] <bad at​ vijya> well
L245[03:34:40] <bad at​ vijya> tedious
L246[03:34:42] <bad at​ vijya> not really hard
L247[03:35:22] <A_D> https://termbin.com/5hxm the way I worked out, if you need it :P
L248[03:35:39] <B​ob> forge stealing from rust
L249[03:35:43] <A_D> every other way I tried just exploded in my face
L250[03:35:46] <B​ob> now toml is used for mcmodinfo
L251[03:35:57] <A_D> there are worse formats
L252[03:36:01] <A_D> like yaml
L253[03:36:28] <B​ob> i know
L254[03:36:34] <B​ob> yaml is horrid
L255[03:36:42] <B​ob> like why spaces and why enforce them
L256[03:37:19] <Shuud​oushi> @Bob because fuck you?
L257[03:37:26] <A_D> spaces > tabs
L258[03:37:36] <A_D> but I like a reasonable number of ways to represent a string
L259[03:37:39] <A_D> with sane reasoning
L260[03:37:45] <A_D> not.... whatever the hell yaml does
L261[03:37:47] <Michiyo> _HF})OPIAQHEFRT{"OGHWBE$T"OHYI EWS#$"Tpo9yuHW})$WYUHJ(
L262[03:37:54] <Shuud​oushi> Lmfao
L263[03:37:54] <Michiyo> WHY q_q
L264[03:38:00] <B​ob> @Shuudoushi rather fuck modding
L265[03:38:04] <B​ob> 🦀
L266[03:38:08] <A_D> ah, I see the double lambdas have been found
L267[03:38:10] <Shuud​oushi> Rip the tiny bit of sanity michiyo had left XD
L268[03:38:14] <B​ob> MC makes everything painful
L269[03:38:20] <Michiyo> A_D No.. I still can't even get the client to load :P
L270[03:38:28] <A_D> me_irl
L271[03:38:32] <A_D> what error?
L272[03:38:35] <A_D> forget a licence?
L273[03:38:41] <Michiyo> same as before
L274[03:38:54] <Michiyo> COME ON SHAREX
L275[03:38:57] <Michiyo> DO THE THING
L276[03:39:01] <Michiyo> THAT I DON'T PAY YOU FOR
L277[03:39:07] <Michiyo> DO IT.
L278[03:39:09] <Michiyo> https://drive.pc-logix.com/s/pGfiALy9N5JJgx8
L279[03:39:10] <Shuud​oushi> Lmmfao
L280[03:39:30] <Michiyo> Mind you, I've not changed ANYTHING so the toml and the example mod should BOTH agree here
L281[03:39:33] <A_D> that scala or java?
L282[03:39:36] <Michiyo> and I don't see anything that says they shouldn't
L283[03:39:39] <A_D> ah okay
L284[03:39:40] <Michiyo> java
L285[03:39:46] <Shuud​oushi> "THAT I DON'T PAY YOU FOR" - Michiyo 2021
L286[03:40:01] <A_D> because there isn't any builtin scala support anymore. Uh, I've not seen that one
L287[03:40:02] <Michiyo> I'm sure the slow upload is NextCloud being slow.
L288[03:40:09] <Michiyo> Yeah, no this is 100% java
L289[03:40:11] <Michiyo> I don't scala
L290[03:40:13] <A_D> how does your toml look?
L291[03:40:17] <Michiyo> Stock
L292[03:40:21] <Michiyo> it looks... stock
L293[03:40:28] <A_D> did you add a new mod class?
L294[03:40:38] <Michiyo> https://paste.pc-logix.com/cidepetahe.hs
L295[03:40:39] <A_D> or replace the existing one?
L296[03:40:40] <Michiyo> nope
L297[03:40:46] <Michiyo> I've done NOTHING so far.
L298[03:40:50] <Michiyo> this is failing out of the box
L299[03:41:04] <Michiyo> https://paste.pc-logix.com/olareraroc.hs
L300[03:41:05] <A_D> oh, lovely
L301[03:41:07] <Michiyo> that's the example mod
L302[03:41:12] <Michiyo> class
L303[03:41:13] <A_D> did you do the magic forgegradle steps?
L304[03:41:34] <Shuud​oushi> The what?
L305[03:41:34] <Michiyo> well, setupDecompWorkspace is dead, so I did the other shit like eclipse/generateEclipseRuns or whatever
L306[03:41:48] <A_D> theres... another one
L307[03:41:50] <A_D> that I don't remember
L308[03:41:50] <Michiyo> I did a build too for good measure
L309[03:42:22] <Michiyo> I imported the gradle project in eclipse which did a TON of stuff that setupDecompWorkspace used to do
L310[03:42:53] <Shuud​oushi> 99 bugs in the code,l. 99 bugs in the code. Take one down, patch it's around. 105 bugs in the code!
L311[03:43:31] <Michiyo> gradlew.bat runClient in a powershell seems to work.. but I'd like in IDE debugging to work...
L312[03:44:15] <A_D> the runs... used to work?
L313[03:44:27] <B​ob> new forge breaks everything as usual
L314[03:44:37] <A_D> I have no idea I'm hurting myself by using vscode _and_ scala for this so its a dumpsterfire of note when it comes to debugging
L315[03:44:39] <Michiyo> and... now it suddenly works
L316[03:44:41] <Michiyo> sooooooo
L317[03:44:42] <Michiyo> great
L318[03:44:44] <Michiyo> whatever.
L319[03:45:10] <bad at​ vijya> i finally remember what i was gonna work on
L320[03:45:24] <Shuud​oushi> Finding me a heart?
L321[03:45:53] <Ocawesome101> ouch
L322[03:46:37] <Ocawesome101> "Oz never did give nothing to the Tin Man / That he didn't, didn't already have" - Tin Man, by America (iirc), many years ago
L323[03:46:47] <Shuud​oushi> I was going to finish that joke, but I decided against it
L324[03:47:08] <Shuud​oushi> Alright, finishing the joke now
L325[03:47:19] <Shuud​oushi> Don't kink shame me motherfucker
L326[03:49:37] <bad at​ vijya> no
L327[03:49:39] <bad at​ vijya> remaking ss13 in lua
L328[03:54:26] <Michiyo> There, ok I can reliably get into the game now
L329[03:54:55] <Shuud​oushi> What ya break?
L330[03:55:00] <Shuud​oushi> Other than java
L331[03:55:40] <Michiyo> No idea I re-ran build and runClient in shell
L332[03:55:44] <Michiyo> then suddenly it worked again
L333[03:55:51] <Michiyo> now I'm trying to rename my mod from ExampleMod.. lol
L334[03:56:15] <Michiyo> yep, there we go. Ok now to do the thing.
L335[03:58:18] <Michiyo> Right, now to remember how to forge.
L336[03:58:49] <Shuud​oushi> The thing with the thingy so the thing can do the thingmagig?
L337[03:59:42] <bad at​ vijya> so
L338[04:01:40] <Michiyo> [20:01:33] [Server thread/INFO] [STDOUT/]: [com.pclogix.CraftTracker.onCraftHandler:pickupItem:9]: Item picked up!
L339[04:01:41] <Michiyo> yay
L340[04:01:43] <Michiyo> an event handler
L341[04:03:52] <A_D> it even handles events!
L342[04:05:21] <Michiyo> [20:05:09] [Render thread/INFO] [STDOUT/]: [com.pclogix.CraftTracker.onCraftHandler:pickupItem:9]: Item crafted!
L343[04:05:22] <Michiyo> [20:05:09] [Server thread/INFO] [STDOUT/]: [com.pclogix.CraftTracker.onCraftHandler:pickupItem:9]: Item crafted!
L344[04:05:22] <Michiyo> huh
L345[04:05:24] <Michiyo> umm
L346[04:05:26] <Michiyo> wat
L347[04:05:43] <B​ob> yes
L348[04:05:45] <Michiyo> oh, does that e vent fire on client and server...
L349[04:05:47] <Michiyo> makes sense
L350[04:06:24] <B​ob> time for `@SideOnly`
L351[04:08:32] <A_D> not supposed to use that anymore IIRC
L352[04:08:38] <A_D> something about it not being loaded at all?
L353[04:08:44] <A_D> I don't remember I'm half asleep
L354[04:09:04] <B​ob> probs
L355[04:09:16] <B​ob> i touched modding a while ago and it was pure 1.12.2
L356[04:15:26] <Michiyo> so much has changed since 1.12 lol
L357[04:17:16] <Michiyo> whelp, I added a tooltip to everything..
L358[04:17:25] <Michiyo> I'd bet money on that breaking LOTS of stuff :D
L359[04:26:52] <Izaya> cursed idea
L360[04:27:10] <Izaya> fairy lights but they're IE/ZI compatible OC wires and they blink as traffic goes through them
L361[04:28:54] <Izaya> so like
L362[04:29:00] <Izaya> with the whole video memory thing
L363[04:29:08] <Izaya> does a T2 display have surplus video memory?
L364[04:29:21] <Izaya> uh, T2 GPU and T2 display
L365[04:29:37] <Ocawesome101> it can do 2 buffers i think
L366[04:29:52] <Izaya> that could be useful on its own
L367[04:29:57] <Izaya> if nothing else, you could do smooth updates
L368[04:30:06] <Ocawesome101> the number of full screen buffers a screen can do is, by default, equal to its tier iirc
L369[04:30:16] <Izaya> aah
L370[04:30:32] <Ocawesome101> so you can split those into as many buffers as you need to
L371[04:30:36] <Izaya> thinking an 80x25 setup with a T3 GPU would be good
L372[04:30:56] <Izaya> full buffering for the display, and each window could be talking directly to the GPU
L373[04:31:03] <Ocawesome101> ex. even on T1 you can do 4 25x8 buffers
L374[04:31:04] <Ocawesome101> neat
L375[04:33:27] <bad at​ vijya> how the fuck do i make this library work
L376[04:33:46] <Ocawesome101> smash it with a hammer and duct tape the pieces together again
L377[04:34:43] <Ko​dos> Most libraries run on hopes and dreams
L378[04:36:10] <bad at​ vijya> `luajit: binding.lua:9: ./libsimpleservo.so: cannot allocate memory in static TLS block`
L379[04:36:11] <bad at​ vijya> wh-what
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L382[05:03:44] <bad at​ vijya> i hate C sometimes
L383[05:03:59] <bad at​ vijya> somehow, gcc can't find a header that is just
L384[05:04:02] <bad at​ vijya> sitting right there
L385[05:04:13] <Ocawesome101> "" vs <>?
L386[05:04:57] <bad at​ vijya> okay so
L387[05:05:02] <bad at​ vijya> i fixed it
L388[05:05:07] <bad at​ vijya> and i'm not even sure how it works
L389[05:05:12] <Ocawesome101> heh
L390[05:18:08] <Shuud​oushi> So... I just opened up my shutdown.lua file for SecureOS to see if there's anything I know will be broke... IT'S 65 FUCKING LINES... I basically ported the whole of the Unix shutdown options into Lua... Was i really that fucking bored?
L391[05:18:24] <Michiyo> Seems likely
L392[05:21:05] <Ocawesome101> gonna reboot now, brb
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L394[05:21:12] <bad at​ vijya> cef doesn't work either
L395[05:21:13] <bad at​ vijya> e
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L397[05:23:21] <ocawesome101> ello, am back
L398[05:23:26] <Shuud​oushi> Dear lord... I really did fuck with a lot of shit in really stupid ways...
L399[05:23:29] <Shuud​oushi> Wb
L400[05:23:39] <ocawesome101> hmm
L401[05:24:00] <ocawesome101> i should make a set of patches to OpenOS for better VT100 emulation and maybe one or two other things
L402[05:24:42] <Shuud​oushi> Please no... I'll have to implement the same changes at some point...
L403[05:24:50] <ocawesome101> heh
L404[05:24:58] *** ocawesome101 is now known as Ocawesome101
L405[05:25:24] <Ocawesome101> i have a fairly complete (and also fairly slow compared to direct GPU access) vt100 emulator already written
L406[05:25:34] <Ocawesome101> and, partially ported but very uncleanly
L407[05:25:44] <Ocawesome101> ripped a couple libraries out of one of my other projects
L408[05:26:01] <Shuud​oushi> Lulz ... Ever take a gander at SecureOS' code?
L409[05:26:05] <Ocawesome101> no
L410[05:26:17] <Shuud​oushi> ... one minute
L411[05:27:13] <Shuud​oushi> @Ocawesome101 https://www.github.com/Shuudoushi/SecureOS/tree/dev/
L412[05:28:08] <Ocawesome101> oh wow this requires more spec than Monolith and Apotheosis do
L413[05:28:14] <Ocawesome101> congratulations that's impressive
L414[05:28:14] <Shuud​oushi> There's quite a bit of stuff that still works flawlessly, but most of it is broken as all hell and I'm unsure how in the actual fuck I made it work at all after reviewing it...
L415[05:28:28] <Vampyre> ....can I join the gcc hate club?
L416[05:28:48] <bad at​ vijya> i mean
L417[05:28:52] <bad at​ vijya> i normally use clang
L418[05:28:59] <Vampyre> Spend 2 hours tracking down a segfault which apparently is "GCC incompatibility issue" between gcc versions
L419[05:29:00] <bad at​ vijya> also
L420[05:29:02] <Shuud​oushi> Eh, in reality it's rather light, i just never bothered finding out what the actual minimums were
L421[05:29:11] <Ocawesome101> fair
L422[05:29:15] <bad at​ vijya> i need to finally
L423[05:29:17] <bad at​ vijya> actually
L424[05:29:19] <bad at​ vijya> get to work on tsuki
L425[05:29:25] <Ocawesome101> probably like 256K of memory and full T1 otherwise i'd assume
L426[05:29:29] <bad at​ vijya> but i want those async drives
L427[05:29:31] <Ocawesome101> given that OpenOS is very lightweight
L428[05:29:54] <Shuud​oushi> Full t1 may not be enough >.>
L429[05:30:02] <Ocawesome101> oof
L430[05:30:04] <bad at​ vijya> lmao
L431[05:30:10] <Ocawesome101> if it doesn't work on 512K then that's impressive
L432[05:30:17] <Ocawesome101> (2xt1.5 = 512k iirc?)
L433[05:30:24] <bad at​ vijya> i know for a fact Tsuki won't run on T1
L434[05:30:24] <Shuud​oushi> The auth and sha libs are kinda brutal...
L435[05:30:42] <bad at​ vijya> maybe T2 tho
L436[05:30:44] <Ocawesome101> question
L437[05:30:57] <Ocawesome101> why do you define loadfile using `load`?
L438[05:31:03] <Ocawesome101> in `/boot/kernel/bl`
L439[05:31:06] <Ocawesome101> *bla
L440[05:31:07] <Shuud​oushi> Data card is much preferred over the native lib
L441[05:31:13] <bad at​ vijya> so
L442[05:31:16] <bad at​ vijya> in tsuki
L443[05:31:21] <Shuud​oushi> I do not remember
L444[05:31:23] <Shuud​oushi> Lol
L445[05:31:26] <bad at​ vijya> most of it will be in pure lua
L446[05:31:29] <Ocawesome101> seems pointless to me
L447[05:31:33] <Shuud​oushi> I think it fucking broke if I didn't
L448[05:31:42] <bad at​ vijya> i'll have
L449[05:31:45] <bad at​ vijya> -ed25519
L450[05:31:50] <Ocawesome101> s t r a n g e
L451[05:31:54] <bad at​ vijya> (which i have to port myself :( )
L452[05:32:02] <bad at​ vijya> -icekey
L453[05:32:06] <Ocawesome101> there's an e*c*25519 lib somewhere
L454[05:32:13] <Shuud​oushi> Yeah, it fucking broke if I didn't
L455[05:32:17] <bad at​ vijya> -sha2
L456[05:32:22] <Ocawesome101> that's interesting
L457[05:32:22] <bad at​ vijya> and whatever else i need
L458[05:32:23] <bad at​ vijya> idk
L459[05:32:25] <bad at​ vijya> also
L460[05:32:32] <bad at​ vijya> CSPRNG :^)
L461[05:32:32] <Ocawesome101> sha2 and sha3 are easily available prebaked for lua 5.3
L462[05:32:36] <bad at​ vijya> ye
L463[05:32:50] <Shuud​oushi> But that's a relic from OC for MC 1.7
L464[05:32:59] <Ocawesome101> fair
L465[05:33:02] <bad at​ vijya> but i made a CSPRNG for OpenOS once
L466[05:33:24] <Ocawesome101> does that stand for Cryptographically Secure PRNG?
L467[05:33:46] <Shuud​oushi> Yeah, come to think of it, MC1.7 is the reason for a lot of the hackery in SecureOS
L468[05:34:17] <Ocawesome101> why is `passwdfile` global aaaaaa
L469[05:34:22] <Ocawesome101> in lib/auth
L470[05:34:30] <bad at​ vijya> Ocawesome: yes
L471[05:34:34] <Shuud​oushi> I think I was working on updating SoS for mc1.8 when I got called to service
L472[05:35:14] <bad at​ vijya> basically
L473[05:35:24] <Ocawesome101> neat
L474[05:35:29] <bad at​ vijya> i implemented fortuna
L475[05:35:34] <bad at​ vijya> using icekey and blake2b iirc?
L476[05:35:39] <bad at​ vijya> instead of uhhh
L477[05:36:28] <Shuud​oushi> @Ocawesome101 the passwdfile is used in a bunch of shit and is first called during login at boot,
L478[05:36:33] <bad at​ vijya> AES and whatever else
L479[05:36:40] <Ocawesome101> ah
L480[05:36:50] <Shuud​oushi> I think... I don't actually remember XD
L481[05:37:26] <Shuud​oushi> Pretty sure it was just a cheap way of putting it into the global path for everything thing else to use it
L482[05:37:52] <Ocawesome101> tfw lib/gfxbuffer is unnecessary now with hardware GPU buffers
L483[05:37:59] <Ocawesome101> (mostly unnecessary, probably)
L484[05:38:03] <bad at​ vijya> anyways
L485[05:38:07] <Shuud​oushi> If it makes you happy though, I'll make it local to just the auth lib
L486[05:38:10] <bad at​ vijya> the major challenge is gonna be uhhh
L487[05:38:18] <Ocawesome101> actually finishing tsuki?
L488[05:38:22] <bad at​ vijya> well
L489[05:38:25] <bad at​ vijya> foxfs first
L490[05:38:28] <Shuud​oushi> Lmao
L491[05:38:39] <bad at​ vijya> and then zorya needs to be able to boot from foxfs
L492[05:38:59] <Ocawesome101> for context vijya has been working on tsuki, constantly rewriting, for like ever
L493[05:39:31] <Ocawesome101> (as long as i've known him, if you could call it knowing given that this is a comparatively reserved online environment and blah blah blah)
L494[05:39:35] <Shuud​oushi> Sounds like me and SoS
L495[05:39:39] <Ocawesome101> lol
L496[05:39:47] <bad at​ vijya> yea
L497[05:39:48] <Ocawesome101> i can't usually bring myself to rewrite things
L498[05:39:56] <Ocawesome101> though i do need to rewrite some parts of paragon
L499[05:39:58] <bad at​ vijya> it took me how long to rewrite zorya?
L500[05:40:00] <Ocawesome101> maybe the whole thing
L501[05:40:03] <bad at​ vijya> and it's not even 100% done
L502[05:40:13] <Ocawesome101> zorya is its own OS at this point
L503[05:40:17] <Shuud​oushi> And to think, my retarded ass decided that I wanted to make an OS to teach myself Lua, oh what a fool I was lol
L504[05:40:21] <bad at​ vijya> ofc, it's in a "it works well enough" state
L505[05:40:44] <bad at​ vijya> as for what Ocawesome is talking about of it being it's own OS
L506[05:40:45] <bad at​ vijya> https://github.com/Adorable-Catgirl/Zorya-NEO
L507[05:40:49] <bad at​ vijya> it really do be
L508[05:41:02] <bad at​ vijya> but just remember
L509[05:41:22] <Ocawesome101> lmao at https://github.com/Shuudoushi/SecureOS/blob/dev/SecureOS/sbin/login.lua#L14
L510[05:42:05] <Shuud​oushi> Ah yes
L511[05:42:33] <Shuud​oushi> My juvenile attempt at keeping people from force killing the login script...
L512[05:42:41] <Shuud​oushi> Tbf, it fucking works
L513[05:42:43] <Shuud​oushi> Lol
L514[05:42:48] <Ocawesome101> lol
L515[05:43:11] <bad at​ vijya> i'd just like to interject for a moment. what you're refering to as "tsuki" is, in fact, "sks/tsuki", or as i've recently taken to calling it, "sks plus tsuki". tsuki is not an operating system unto itself but rather another free component of a fully functioning sks system made useful by the sks coreutils, shell utilities, and other vital system components comprimising a full os.
L516[05:43:21] <Ocawesome101> lmao
L517[05:43:33] <Ocawesome101> you could say the same thing about paragon/apotheosis
L518[05:43:39] <Ocawesome101> rather, apotheosis/paragon
L519[05:44:06] <bad at​ vijya> anyways
L520[05:44:10] <bad at​ vijya> zorya is thicc
L521[05:44:53] <Ocawesome101> the full paragon kernel is like, idk, 80K or so
L522[05:45:02] <bad at​ vijya> ha
L523[05:45:06] <bad at​ vijya> zorya-neo is uhhh
L524[05:45:13] <Ocawesome101> it can be trimmed down a little bit, by 20-ish kb
L525[05:45:16] <Shuud​oushi> I get to either make bespoke chars to use as flags and separators, or go digging around the internet for weird wacky bullshit no one will have on a keyboard by default...
L526[05:46:09] <Shuud​oushi> @Ocawesome101 want to have a really good laugh at younger me? Check out shin/update.lua
L527[05:46:25] <Shuud​oushi> You will either laugh, or cry
L528[05:47:59] <Ocawesome101> oh
L529[05:48:00] <Ocawesome101> oh dear
L530[05:48:12] <Ocawesome101> at least you used.... locals....?
L531[05:48:21] <Shuud​oushi> XD
L532[05:48:21] <bad at​ vijya> wh-what
L533[05:48:26] <bad at​ vijya> why is the output
L534[05:48:27] <bad at​ vijya> zero bytes
L535[05:48:34] <Izaya> PsychOS kernel is less than a KB
L536[05:48:39] <Shuud​oushi> It's so fucking cursed XD
L537[05:48:40] <Izaya> actually it's probably about 1KB
L538[05:49:07] <Izaya> for convenience one usually slaps a bunch of extra stuff into the kernel so you don't have to deal with module loading and this is why it starts so fast
L539[05:49:14] <Izaya> ends up about 20K
L540[05:49:31] <bad at​ vijya> remember my fork of PsychOS?
L541[05:49:34] <bad at​ vijya> the really cursed one?
L542[05:50:07] <Shuud​oushi> @bad at vijya you look at sbin/update.lua yet >.>
L543[05:50:13] <bad at​ vijya> no
L544[05:50:14] <bad at​ vijya> not yet
L545[05:50:21] <bad at​ vijya> i've gotta find my psychos fork
L546[05:50:28] <Shuud​oushi> I don't think it can be much more cursed than that...
L547[05:50:30] <bad at​ vijya> https://git.shadowkat.net/sam/OC-PsychOS2
L548[05:52:29] <bad at​ vijya> wh-what
L549[05:52:33] <bad at​ vijya> how did i segfault lua
L550[05:52:49] <Ocawesome101> :o
L551[05:52:50] <bad at​ vijya> `[1] 48887 segmentation fault (core dumped) lua luabuild.lua all`
L552[05:52:57] <Ocawesome101> nice
L553[05:53:06] <Ocawesome101> too cursed even for lua to handle
L554[05:53:12] <Shuud​oushi> @Ocawesome101 if it makes you feel any better at all, it was actually super clean till a core update broke the function that I built to do all that shit
L555[05:54:00] <Shuud​oushi> @bad at vijya lulz, I think you win the "most cursed" prize XD
L556[05:54:00] <bad at​ vijya> why did it output the update tsar but not the installers
L557[05:54:12] <Ocawesome101> heheh
L558[05:54:24] <bad at​ vijya> for which? @Shuudoushi
L559[05:54:26] <bad at​ vijya> there's a lot of em
L560[05:54:34] <Shuud​oushi> Yeah, been having the same issue with my installer script
L561[05:54:47] <bad at​ vijya> my PsychOS fork came from the wish to have a fully functioning PsychOS env on an EEPROM card iirc
L562[05:55:23] <bad at​ vijya> wait no
L563[05:55:28] <bad at​ vijya> it was to fit PsychOS in tmpfs
L564[05:55:51] <bad at​ vijya> this was back when PsychOS was pigfat
L565[05:55:54] <Shuud​oushi> My installer script grabs the most up-to-date update script, but it for some reason doesn't execute the update script... Not sure why...
L566[05:56:39] <Shuud​oushi> Probably did something really fucking dumb in the code...
L567[05:57:25] <Ocawesome101> calling `x = load(y)` and never calling `x()`?
L568[05:57:40] <bad at​ vijya> time to use the old buildscript
L569[05:57:42] <bad at​ vijya> /e
L570[05:57:44] <Shuud​oushi> shrugs
L571[05:57:52] <bad at​ vijya> well that worked
L572[05:58:02] <bad at​ vijya> the zorya neo installer is 120K
L573[05:58:04] <bad at​ vijya> for some reason
L574[05:58:05] <bad at​ vijya> wtf
L575[05:58:11] <Shuud​oushi> Lmao
L576[05:58:15] <bad at​ vijya> oh
L577[05:58:19] <bad at​ vijya> there's two copies of the modules
L578[05:58:43] <bad at​ vijya> one is the good old `.zy2x` and the other is `.velx`
L579[05:58:46] <CompanionCube> %tonkoug
L580[05:58:50] <CompanionCube> %tonkout
L581[05:58:50] <MichiBot> Compan​ionCube: You gotta tonk before you can tonk out. For this transgression the timer has been reset.
L582[05:58:54] <CompanionCube> rip
L583[05:59:08] <Shuud​oushi> Lololololol
L584[05:59:44] <bad at​ vijya> for reference, `.zy2x` was just compressed lua scripts
L585[06:00:04] <bad at​ vijya> `.velx` is the new fancy format i made which can have archives and whatnot
L586[06:00:50] <Shuud​oushi> Who was that was trying to make a tar archive script?
L587[06:01:12] <Ocawesome101> > tape archive archive
L588[06:01:19] <Ocawesome101> hmmm yes redundancy
L589[06:01:20] <bad at​ vijya> i was gonna make a port of `lcpio` to lua
L590[06:01:21] <bad at​ vijya> lmao
L591[06:01:23] <Ocawesome101> happens all the time
L592[06:01:55] <Shuud​oushi> @Ocawesome101 eat my ass
L593[06:01:59] <Shuud​oushi> Lol
L594[06:02:05] <Ocawesome101> ew no
L595[06:02:05] <bad at​ vijya> "eat my ass, galaxy"
L596[06:02:05] <Ocawesome101> lol
L597[06:02:17] <bad at​ vijya> anyways, in OpenOS, you wouldn't get all the fancy stuff like
L598[06:02:22] <bad at​ vijya> permissions
L599[06:02:24] <bad at​ vijya> and all that
L600[06:02:24] <Shuud​oushi> Lmao
L601[06:02:25] <bad at​ vijya> but hey
L602[06:02:34] <bad at​ vijya> in tsuki-based OSes, it'll just werk
L603[06:03:01] <Shuud​oushi> Oh God... You just reminded me of what I did to the filesystem lib...
L604[06:03:20] <Ocawesome101> ha
L605[06:03:25] <Ocawesome101> permissions, badly?
L606[06:03:25] <bad at​ vijya> you wanna know my favorite part of lcpio?
L607[06:03:30] <bad at​ vijya> cpio64
L608[06:03:30] <Shuud​oushi> I'm going to fucking kms trying to unfuck that nightmare...
L609[06:03:30] <bad at​ vijya> :)
L610[06:03:53] <bad at​ vijya> every tsuki rewrite has stuck to the same formula
L611[06:04:21] <bad at​ vijya> when it came to permissions
L612[06:04:37] <bad at​ vijya> but the scheduler always got more and more complicated
L613[06:04:44] <bad at​ vijya> especially when i introduced remote tasks.....
L614[06:05:00] <Shuud​oushi> I had a retarded user system...
L615[06:05:02] <bad at​ vijya> the problem with tsuki is feature creep tbh
L616[06:06:24] <bad at​ vijya> i should make ikcrypt
L617[06:06:27] <bad at​ vijya> like bcrypt
L618[06:06:40] <bad at​ vijya> but it uses icekey instead of blowfish
L619[06:06:42] <Shuud​oushi> Basically, all it did was not allow you to modify files out side of your home dir unless your account had the su flag and you entered into su mode...
L620[06:06:49] <Ocawesome101> \heh
L621[06:07:02] <bad at​ vijya> tsuki uses filesystem level permissions
L622[06:07:20] <Ocawesome101> paragon would
L623[06:07:29] <Ocawesome101> if it had any sort of unmanaged filesystem drivers
L624[06:07:30] <bad at​ vijya> hey ocawesome
L625[06:07:32] <Ocawesome101> as is it just supports them
L626[06:07:34] <Ocawesome101> yea?
L627[06:07:43] <Shuud​oushi> Yeah, i need that for SoS, but I'll have to home brew the fuck out of the solution...
L628[06:07:46] <bad at​ vijya> want an agnostic foxfs driver when i make one
L629[06:07:50] <Ocawesome101> sure
L630[06:07:56] <bad at​ vijya> cool
L631[06:08:29] <bad at​ vijya> bring your own block device library tho
L632[06:08:44] <Ocawesome101> see https://github.com/ocawesome101/oc-paragon/blob/master/docs/fsdriver.md
L633[06:08:52] <Ocawesome101> (i think that link works)
L634[06:08:56] <Shuud​oushi> I wonder just how bad filesystem level permissions will break otherwise compatible programs
L635[06:09:31] <bad at​ vijya> it's gonna be set up so you can just do `mount /dev/hd0p1` or even `mount myfoxfsfilesystem`
L636[06:09:40] <Ocawesome101> neat
L637[06:10:25] <bad at​ vijya> i'll throw an OSDI driver in there too since lmao
L638[06:10:33] <bad at​ vijya> it's a thing
L639[06:10:51] <bad at​ vijya> also
L640[06:11:00] <bad at​ vijya> does paragon have it's own thing for accessing resource forks?
L641[06:11:14] <Ocawesome101> ?
L642[06:11:14] <bad at​ vijya> or should i just do the tsuki thing of adding `:/` to the end of the path?
L643[06:11:29] <bad at​ vijya> oh
L644[06:11:33] <bad at​ vijya> uhh
L645[06:11:39] <Ocawesome101> resource forks?
L646[06:11:41] <Shuud​oushi> These ads for that shitty cake browser makes me want to skin someone alive...
L647[06:11:41] <bad at​ vijya> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fork_(file_system)
L648[06:12:05] <bad at​ vijya> internally, tsuki uses resource forks a lot
L649[06:12:09] <bad at​ vijya> at least for foxfs stuff
L650[06:12:15] <bad at​ vijya> err
L651[06:12:18] <bad at​ vijya> security stuff
L652[06:12:20] <bad at​ vijya> i mean
L653[06:12:24] <Ocawesome101> neat
L654[06:12:35] <Ocawesome101> nah it doesn't, go wild
L655[06:12:45] <bad at​ vijya> `/path/to/file:/tsukiacl` is where tsuki stores it's acls
L656[06:13:40] <bad at​ vijya> tsuki pretty much hides a lot of base OC stuff
L657[06:13:43] <bad at​ vijya> because security
L658[06:13:53] <Ocawesome101> paragon does too
L659[06:14:01] <Ocawesome101> provides standard lua emulation + a filesystem library
L660[06:14:02] <bad at​ vijya> not to say you can't access raw components
L661[06:14:12] <Ocawesome101> programs can access components if they're root or if the user has permission
L662[06:14:16] <Shuud​oushi> Lol, SecureOS does not XD
L663[06:15:20] <Shuud​oushi> It's more basic user security, the user can still seriously fuck shit up if they wanted lol
L664[06:15:29] <Ocawesome101> heh
L665[06:15:50] <Shuud​oushi> But I'm also trying to build something that has the learning curve of potato
L666[06:16:09] <bad at​ vijya> tsuki's learning curve is "rtfd"
L667[06:17:22] <Vampyre> a daemon ro point people to manuals?
L668[06:17:26] <Vampyre> to*
L669[06:17:33] <Ocawesome101> lol
L670[06:18:15] <Shuud​oushi> What can I say, I have a VERY low set of expectations for the average user to be flexible enough to relearn an operating system that isn't SUPER OpenOS like...
L671[06:21:47] <Ocawesome101> lol
L672[06:21:52] <Ocawesome101> entirely fair
L673[06:21:53] <Izaya> speaking of PsychOS
L674[06:22:01] <Izaya> I set up my build server to serve cpios of it
L675[06:22:06] <Ocawesome101> neat
L676[06:22:13] <Ocawesome101> so do you have an updater yet?
L677[06:22:19] <Izaya> have had for ages
L678[06:22:24] <Ocawesome101> oh cool
L679[06:22:41] <Izaya> the package manager supports packages flagged as "system" packages and they get unpacked into /boot
L680[06:23:06] <Izaya> and the main system was packaged as a system package
L681[06:23:13] <Ocawesome101> clever
L682[06:23:23] <Izaya> but now it's a cpio too
L683[06:23:38] <Izaya> because uncpio is less complicated than installing mtar utilities
L684[06:24:00] <Izaya> https://oc.shadowkat.net/psychos/psychos.cpio
L685[06:24:24] <Izaya> also planning to make cpio and mtar archives of the whole package archive
L686[06:24:30] <Izaya> so it's easier to mirror on a LAN or similar
L687[06:24:43] <Ocawesome101> neat
L688[06:25:12] <Izaya> without having to build them all from source
L689[06:26:15] <Izaya> this development brought to you by misrouting
L690[06:26:44] <Shuud​oushi> Lol
L691[06:26:55] <Izaya> because somewhere in the NBN/SpinTel infrastructure my packets to dequbed's server get misrouted so I can't actually download packages from my own servers
L692[06:27:08] <Ocawesome101> well that's interesting
L693[06:27:25] <Izaya> and they haven't replied to my email yet
L694[06:28:25] <Izaya> might also add a source-repo bit of metadata to the repo packages
L695[06:28:29] <Izaya> because that would be comfy
L696[06:29:57] <Shuud​oushi> Oh God... I had the filesystem lib handling making sure people couldn't run autorun scripts at boot to bypass login o.o
L697[06:30:45] <Izaya> hmhm
L698[06:31:09] <Izaya> I got the basic "auto-attach all components from this machine at boot" working
L699[06:31:38] <Izaya> not sure how I want to do additional importing though
L700[06:32:20] <Shuud​oushi> Force a reboot upon component connection!
L701[06:32:29] <Izaya> :D
L702[06:32:47] <Izaya> the issue is actually that I couldn't do that if I wanted
L703[06:33:14] <Izaya> I'm not huge on having each machine poke all the other machines it's clustered with and say "hey I have new components"
L704[06:33:15] <Shuud​oushi> God, the resulting "bug" reports would be hideous...
L705[06:33:28] <Izaya> ... maybe the keepalive pings could actually be a function listing
L706[06:33:48] <Shuud​oushi> There's an idea
L707[06:34:00] <Izaya> like, it has to do keepalive pings anyway
L708[06:34:12] <Izaya> might as well ask for the list and compare it against what's already connected
L709[06:34:50] <Michiyo> @Kodos around?
L710[06:36:12] <Ko​dos> Yo
L711[06:36:24] <Michiyo> https://drive.pc-logix.com/s/oXLykjEJtw3CQWR
L712[06:36:57] <Michiyo> Issue.... since it has NBT it won't stack with any other item unless the NBT EXACTLY matches.
L713[06:37:18] <Michiyo> so an item crafted by you won't stack with an item crafted by anyone else.
L714[06:37:32] <Ko​dos> As long as modded things like blocks retain their original function
L715[06:37:48] <Michiyo> They should.. this just adds a new tag if NBT exists
L716[06:37:58] <Ko​dos> Examples being dragon bone blocks when placed as part of a dragon forge
L717[06:38:08] <Ko​dos> And as long as it retains when placed and picked back up
L718[06:39:04] <Michiyo> Ah shit..
L719[06:39:05] <Michiyo> nope
L720[06:39:19] <Shuud​oushi> Just make a whole ass new item/block data type, problem solved :D
L721[06:39:21] <Michiyo> Forgot about making blocks retain it..
L722[06:39:39] <Michiyo> I'd have to make a blockbreak handler for that <_<
L723[06:39:58] <Michiyo> those get laggy..
L724[06:40:04] <Michiyo> as they happens ANYTIME a block is broken.
L725[06:40:18] <Shuud​oushi> It'll be fine :D
L726[06:40:37] <Michiyo> OS gets away with it as I check for my specific blocks.. this.. would have to tag EVERY block if the tag exists.
L727[06:41:01] <Shuud​oushi> Limit tag range? Idfk lol
L728[06:41:37] <Izaya> have a magic marker
L729[06:41:44] <Izaya> that designates blocks as yours
L730[06:41:51] <Izaya> ... but I guess you'd still have to check all of them
L731[06:42:15] <Michiyo> tag range?
L732[06:42:20] <Michiyo> @Shuudoushi? *
L733[06:42:28] <Michiyo> This basically tags an item or block as your on craft
L734[06:42:42] <Shuud​oushi> NFC/RFID stickers sounds cool, just have no idea how that'll work
L735[06:42:46] <Michiyo> for items they keep their NBT with no issue. Blocks don't.
L736[06:43:01] <Michiyo> This isn't the same as OS's RFID
L737[06:43:34] <Michiyo> I... could totally add item tagging to RFIDs in OS though
L738[06:43:37] <Michiyo> That'd be neat...
L739[06:44:27] <Izaya> I guess because it's converting from item -> world -> item?
L740[06:44:37] <Shuud​oushi> Michiyo i have no idea who to even start modding minecraft, I'm just being a cheeky cunt lol
L741[06:44:55] <Shuud​oushi> s/who/how
L742[06:44:55] <MichiBot> <Shuudoushi> Michiyo i have no idea how to even start modding minecraft, I'm just being a cheeky cunt lol
L743[06:46:50] <Michiyo> There.. I made it only apply to Items..
L744[06:46:58] <Michiyo> :P
L745[06:47:09] <Shuud​oushi> Lol
L746[06:47:26] <Izaya> consider
L747[06:47:39] <Izaya> would it break less stuff if you did just an NBT tag rather than a tooltip?
L748[06:47:44] <Izaya> admins could still check items then
L749[06:47:58] <Michiyo> No, the tooltip is simply checking if the NBT tag exists.
L750[06:48:05] <Michiyo> I can apply the NBT to the block on craft with no issue.
L751[06:48:09] <Shuud​oushi> Tooltip == nbt
L752[06:48:26] <Michiyo> the issue is when you PLACE a block it loses the NBT UNLESS you have code that applies that NBT on place.
L753[06:48:28] <Izaya> I figured if other stuff used that tag it'd cause issues
L754[06:48:40] <Izaya> but okey
L755[06:48:42] <Michiyo> THEN when you BREAK the block it loses it again UNLESS you tag the resulting item on block break
L756[06:48:56] <Izaya> yeah because blocks aren't items in the world
L757[06:49:14] <Izaya> right?
L758[06:49:17] <Michiyo> Yeah
L759[06:49:39] <Shuud​oushi> How do drones get around that?
L760[06:49:47] <Izaya> drones are entities
L761[06:49:54] <Michiyo> ^
L762[06:49:59] <Shuud​oushi> Ah, yes
L763[06:50:25] <Michiyo> and Robots are TileEntities which have explicit handling for that
L764[06:50:58] <Izaya> are tileentities basically just blocks the game knows should have extra stuff going on?
L765[06:51:06] <Michiyo> I'm not even sure I can make a non TE store NBT
L766[06:51:12] <Izaya> and the extra stuff is stored elsewhere
L767[06:51:29] <Michiyo> Basically.
L768[06:51:49] <Izaya> well that's kinda cursed but I can understand why they did it that way
L769[06:51:49] <Shuud​oushi> Tile entities normally have fake player data iirc
L770[06:51:53] <Michiyo> the TE can have an update() method that is called on tick, can store data and other stuff
L771[06:52:09] <Michiyo> TE's don't inherently have a FakePlayer, but they can be implemented
L772[06:52:41] <Izaya> ... TEs are like binding a spirit to a block
L773[06:52:46] <Izaya> that's kinda neat
L774[06:53:04] <Michiyo> So yeah, for block support *IF* I could even implement NBT on non TEs I'd have to handle EVERY block place, AND break.
L775[06:53:12] <Michiyo> someone tosses some NBT down and I cry.
L776[06:53:15] <Michiyo> NBT?
L777[06:53:16] <Michiyo> TNT
L778[06:53:19] <Ocawesome101> and tileentities are immovable objects because minecraft is weir
L779[06:53:21] <Ocawesome101> weird
L780[06:53:22] <Michiyo> someone tosses some TNT down and I cry
L781[06:53:32] <Izaya> Ocawesome101: it makes sense if you think about it because like
L782[06:53:33] <Michiyo> you *CAN* move TEs... it's just nasty
L783[06:53:33] <Michiyo> lol
L784[06:53:36] <Shuud​oushi> Lol
L785[06:53:40] <bad at​ vijya> uncpio is that thing i made that people use
L786[06:53:42] <bad at​ vijya> for some reason
L787[06:53:52] <Izaya> a TE block would be "hey game, check if there's extra stuff for this tile"
L788[06:54:00] <Izaya> and there'd be an entity array somewhere else with the right coordinates
L789[06:54:03] <Michiyo> @Kodos Items only... blocks make me sad. lol
L790[06:54:05] <Izaya> at least, I'm imagining
L791[06:54:28] <Michiyo> Eh, close enough :P
L792[06:54:37] <Izaya> so to move a TE
L793[06:54:52] <Izaya> you have to move the tile in the world, then update the coordinates entries
L794[06:54:56] <Izaya> or something similarly inconvenient
L795[06:55:38] <Ocawesome101> i'm sure there are much smarter ways of implementing that lol
L796[06:55:40] <Michiyo> So yeah, blocks get blockstates. TileEntities get NBT
L797[06:55:58] <Michiyo> and I don't wanna get into modifying blockstates
L798[06:56:08] <Ocawesome101> gonna call it now
L799[06:56:09] <Ocawesome101> night all
L800[06:56:12] <Izaya> o/
L801[06:56:14] <Michiyo> Night
L802[06:56:20] <Izaya> I *think* Minetest works on the assumption that all blocks have extra information
L803[06:56:24] <Izaya> and it's stored in the same place
L804[06:56:27] <Izaya> but I don't actually know
L805[06:56:50] <Shuud​oushi> Need sleep... Oh, and I'll have to completely rewrite how the filesystem works because the way payonel split the lib more or less fucked me on how I handled multiple users...
L806[06:57:10] <Izaya> may I interest you in the PsychOS filesystem library? :p
L807[06:58:02] <Shuud​oushi> How badly does it break OpenOS programs?
L808[06:58:08] <Izaya> it is incompatible
L809[06:58:22] <Shuud​oushi> sigh
L810[06:58:35] <Izaya> it's basically a thin VFS layer over filesystem components
L811[06:58:48] <Shuud​oushi> Oh christ...
L812[06:58:52] <Shuud​oushi> Why!?
L813[06:59:18] <Izaya> because they're basically fine
L814[06:59:31] <Izaya> you get:
L815[06:59:34] <Izaya> - a filesystem tree
L816[06:59:48] <Izaya> - a thin wrapper over file handles
L817[06:59:58] <Izaya> - all the functions filesystem components otherwise support
L818[07:00:09] <Izaya> just right to implement io's file access stuff on top of
L819[07:00:41] <Shuud​oushi> sighs send me a link... I'll figure something out or at least steal bits from it...
L820[07:01:13] <Izaya> https://git.shadowkat.net/izaya/OC-PsychOS2/src/branch/master/module/fs.lua
L821[07:01:23] <Izaya> I suggest it mainly because it's really fuckin dumb
L822[07:01:33] <Izaya> and that may be easier to adapt than OpenOS's current implementation
L823[07:04:36] <Shuud​oushi> There's nothing wrong with the current implementation, if you're using OpenOS... Given enough time, I'm sure I could get my old multi user system working just fine, just gonna be a pain in the ass...
L824[07:05:02] <Izaya> oh okey
L825[07:07:29] <Shuud​oushi> Huh, come to think of it, with a rewrite, i can do a proper 'isOwner' permissions system, instead of the 'isRoot' system I was using
L826[07:07:43] <Michiyo> *sigh* another issue is if you repair the item it'll overwrite the input item with the 2nd item.. including the crafted tag
L827[07:08:15] <Shuud​oushi> Oof
L828[07:08:43] <Shuud​oushi> Ok, enough pondering, need sleep
L829[07:08:52] <Shuud​oushi> Night y'all o/
L830[07:09:00] <Izaya> o/
L831[07:09:06] <Izaya> I should really write that tag system...
L832[07:10:26] <Michiyo> Night Shuu
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L834[08:44:40] <Forec​aster> %tonk
L835[08:44:40] <MichiBot> Woooo! Forec​aster! You beat Va​ur's previous record of <0 (By 2 hours, 45 minutes and 49 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L836[08:44:41] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 2 hours, 45 minutes and 49 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.00276 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #4. Need 0.01528 more points to pass Va​ur!
L837[08:44:50] <Forec​aster> %sip
L838[08:44:50] <MichiBot> You drink a goopy salmon potion (New!). Forecaster looks up and sees the moon smile at them for a second.
L839[08:51:01] <Ar​iri> 1.4B in combat bonds from anti xeno combat bonds, stonks
L840[08:56:24] <Forec​aster> I need to work on unlocking more ax weaponry
L841[08:59:11] <Forec​aster> %sip
L842[08:59:11] <MichiBot> You drink a seeping boneboo potion (New!). Forecaster feels slightly more agile.
L843[09:00:57] <Ar​iri> I just use the gauss
L844[09:07:10] <Forec​aster> "just" if you've unlocked it
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L849[09:48:28] <Snow D​apples> Is there a plugin that enables EnderIO conduits to work with the OpenComputers bundled cable API?
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L852[10:47:56] <Inari> Elfi: fa la la la la
L853[10:51:14] <Vampyre> ah, yes
L854[10:51:18] <Vampyre> %drink coffee
L855[10:51:18] <MichiBot> Vam​pyre: Vampyre has some coffee. It's hot and bitter.
L856[10:51:33] <Vampyre> Perfect. life elixer number 2.
L857[10:51:50] <ThePi​Guy24> vodka is #1
L858[10:52:10] * Vampyre would disagree ;-)
L859[10:57:56] <Inari> %sip
L860[10:58:06] <Inari> Waow
L861[10:58:09] <Inari> Thats a long cooldown
L862[10:58:28] <Forec​aster> it's supposed to be personal, I haven't pushed that update yet
L863[10:58:40] <Inari> Thats very teasy
L864[10:58:45] <Inari> If a potion gives you the urge to drink another
L865[10:58:46] <Inari> You can't do so
L866[10:59:10] <Inari> I guess coffee counts as a potion too
L867[10:59:17] <Forec​aster> that's a good point
L868[10:59:29] <Forec​aster> I can make that effect override the timeout
L869[10:59:42] <Inari> 👌
L870[11:09:31] <Forec​aster> because an effect having a scripted action doesn't automatically make it one-use anymore
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L874[12:17:13] <ThePiGuy24> arbitrary %tonk time
L875[12:17:14] <MichiBot> Jeepers! ThePi​Guy24! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of 2 hours, 45 minutes and 49 seconds (By 46 minutes and 43 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L876[12:17:15] <MichiBot> ThePiGuy24's new record is 3 hours, 32 minutes and 32 seconds! ThePiGuy24 also gained 0.00234 (0.00078 x 3) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need 0.01933 more points to pass Compan​ionCube!
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L878[12:37:47] <Forec​aster> container number 2 https://tinyurl.com/yxffq9jg
L879[12:38:00] <Forec​aster> now to see if I can build a mining buggy that fits in it
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L881[13:29:10] <Forec​aster> little tight, but I think this'll work https://tinyurl.com/y4vwong2
L882[13:35:07] <Izaya> https://expired.mentality.rip/media/e7f292c2a08d8be19390c8c24ce35f8395d7fcb591d8f9f331694bcfb9879b01.png
L883[13:36:03] <Kristo​pher38> cursed
L884[13:49:41] <dequbed> Izaya: No, stop. Bad Izaya!
L885[13:50:22] <Izaya> AMVidya
L886[13:50:29] <Izaya> AMVidntel
L887[13:50:38] <Amanda> %splash Inari with mutable redstone potion
L888[13:50:38] <MichiBot> You fling a mutable redstone potion (New!) that splashes onto Inari. Inari turns into a bear girl until they sneeze.
L889[13:57:37] <ThePi​Guy24> yes good logos
L890[13:57:53] <Izaya> why are all the ship designs in the expanse so good
L891[13:57:55] <Izaya> goddamn
L892[14:42:55] <Forec​aster> nice https://tinyurl.com/y4u7bbpc
L893[14:43:11] <Forec​aster> snug as a bug(gy) in a container
L894[14:43:40] <Forec​aster> now I need to add a locking mechanism so it doesn't just fall out
L895[14:43:45] <Forec​aster> that would be bad
L896[15:16:18] <Shuud​oushi> Mmmm, lead https://tinyurl.com/yy4ez75j
L897[15:22:11] <ThePi​Guy24> tasty
L898[15:27:41] <dequbed> I mean lead solder is pretty common still. And not really that much of an issue
L899[15:35:09] <Shuud​oushi> Lead solder is perfectly safe unless you huff the fucking fumes like one of those crotch goblins that ate the "wall candy" like it was a goddamn pastime
L900[15:36:35] <dequbed> I am once again impressed by the information-to-expletive Shuu reaches. ^^
L901[15:37:56] <dequbed> But yeah, don't eat solder. It aint tasty and it doesn't make you a better elekchicken either. And no, eating welding sticks doesn't make you a better welder either.
L902[15:46:20] <Inari> but does eating beef make me a better cow?
L903[15:48:36] <Forec​aster> hm, methinks 4 small gyroscopes is not enough for a 1 ton ship
L904[15:50:16] <Amanda> not with that additude it's not!
L905[15:50:34] <Forec​aster> well, it's more about physics I think
L906[15:50:56] <Forec​aster> namely that ass soon as I turn the engines on the ship starts rolling backwards which is not particularly good
L907[16:08:18] <Forec​aster> namely that as soon as I turn the engines on the ship starts rolling backwards which is not particularly good [Edited]
L908[16:19:47] <Izaya> I gather while it's not used in production stuff any more, leaded solder is still widely available for hobbyists
L909[16:20:40] <dequbed> Still used in production, just not with reflow soldering
L910[16:21:05] <Izaya> Doesn't RoHS say no?
L911[16:21:23] <dequbed> Totally does
L912[16:21:47] <dequbed> But that's an European rule and has many exceptions
L913[16:26:44] <Va​ur> %tonkout
L914[16:26:45] <MichiBot> Yikes! Va​ur! You beat ThePi​Guy24's previous record of 3 hours, 32 minutes and 32 seconds (By 36 minutes and 58 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L915[16:26:46] <MichiBot> Va​ur has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.004 tonk points! plus 0.003 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 0.04588. Position #3 Need 0.00039 more points to pass ThePi​Guy24!
L916[16:35:13] <Z0id​berg> an european?
L917[16:35:18] <Z0id​berg> ..............
L918[16:40:30] <Izaya> surprisingly common sort of errors made mostly by non-native speakers and americans
L919[16:40:55] <Vexatos> a new ropean
L920[16:41:12] <Izaya> when you use pronunciation to decide whether to use a or an, if your pronunciation is off, you get the wrong result
L921[16:41:13] <Izaya> :D
L922[16:41:34] <Z0id​berg> The only time I'm ever a grammar asshat is when people misuse the word 'an'. It makes reading the sentence interrupted, forces you to pause in discontinuity. an can only be used when the following word is prefixed by a vowell sound. european uses the y vowel sound inconsonant form, therefore an european is inapropriate. Sometimes, the word 'an' is in a gray area, for example with acronyms such as RTP; IF you read the acronym in the parti
L923[16:41:35] <Z0id​berg> sentence "an RTP session" as "Real-time Transport Protocol then you do not use an, but if you pronounce the acronym "RTP" letter by letter then you use an RTP, because the R takes on the sound of the vowel 'a' which is always in vowel form.
L924[16:42:55] <Z0id​berg> I could give a shit less if you misuse their, they're and there.
L925[16:44:40] <Vexatos> if you're worried about pausing too often, just wait until you see people who, place commas where they don't belong
L926[16:45:00] <Z0id​berg> YEah comma splicing is in a gray area too.
L927[16:45:03] <Michiyo> An, extra comma, never hurt, anyone!
L928[16:45:09] <Michiyo> :P
L929[16:45:13] <Inari> Vexatos: Not sure, where I would've seen something like that
L930[16:45:18] <Izaya> s/ /, /g
L931[16:45:18] <MichiBot> <Inari> Vexatos:, Not, sure,, where, I, would've, seen, something, like, that
L932[16:45:27] <Izaya> that hurts to read
L933[16:45:42] <Z0id​berg> That is a war that has been faught by people for years. Professional writers haver never been able to come with an absolutely justified standard for when commas are absolutely inapropriate in all cases.
L934[16:45:58] <Izaya> :drakeno: adhering to rules
L935[16:46:01] <Inari> My mum has a habit of putting lots of "..." when typing stuff on whatsapp
L936[16:46:07] <Izaya> :drakeyes: "does it sound right"
L937[16:46:26] <Inari> "Yeah, it's rainy today.... have to cook lunch soon... today we're having this and that... but father doesn't like it that much..."
L938[16:46:28] <Vexatos> I wonder how good this s command is
L939[16:46:43] <Izaya> 2
L940[16:46:46] <Vexatos> s/\(.\)/\1,/g
L941[16:46:48] <Izaya> s/\d/f/g
L942[16:46:48] <MichiBot> <Izaya> f
L943[16:47:10] <Vexatos> s/(.)/\1,/g
L944[16:47:11] <MichiBot> <Izaya> 1,
L945[16:47:12] <Vexatos> aw
L946[16:47:14] <Izaya> hmhm, I wonder if this will work as intended then
L947[16:47:25] <Z0id​berg> Still waiting for a damn call from my insurrance company. wtf people.
L948[16:47:26] <Izaya> s/[^,] /, /g
L949[16:47:27] <MichiBot> <Z0idberg> Stil, waitin, fo, , dam, cal, fro, m, insurranc, company, wt, people.
L950[16:47:31] <Izaya> oops
L951[16:47:35] <Z0id​berg> LOL
L952[16:47:42] <Michiyo> Izaya++
L953[16:47:42] <MichiBot> Michiyo: ShadowKatStudios now has 9 points
L954[16:47:45] <Izaya> forgot to include the capture
L955[16:47:59] * Inari prints out many commas, cuts them out and attaches them to Amanda's fur
L956[16:48:01] <Vexatos> s/([^,])/\1,/g
L957[16:48:01] <MichiBot> <Inari> 1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,
L958[16:48:06] <Z0id​berg> a/1/0
L959[16:48:09] <Vexatos> it can't do captures it seems
L960[16:48:11] <Z0id​berg> oops
L961[16:48:13] <Izaya> s/([^,]) /\\1, /g
L962[16:48:13] <MichiBot> <Vexatos> i\1, can'\1, d\1, capture\1, i\1, seems
L963[16:48:13] <Z0id​berg> I typoed
L964[16:48:14] * Michiyo squints
L965[16:48:33] <Izaya> is this lua patterns or regex
L966[16:48:38] <Vexatos> I can't believe this is broken
L967[16:48:39] <Z0id​berg> WHAT
L968[16:48:41] <Michiyo> hint, it's not lua.
L969[16:48:46] <Vexatos> literally unusable
L970[16:48:54] <Izaya> cause that's regex
L971[16:49:04] <Vexatos> if this was lua patterns you'd know
L972[16:49:33] <Z0id​berg> \s/broken/not butter/
L973[16:49:37] <Z0id​berg> oh wtf
L974[16:49:39] <Z0id​berg> discord
L975[16:49:42] <Inari> I thought regex does $1 not \\1
L976[16:49:57] <Izaya> sed does \1
L977[16:50:02] <Inari> Ah
L978[16:50:03] <Inari> Weird
L979[16:50:05] <Izaya> s/([^,]) /$1, /g
L980[16:50:05] <MichiBot> <Izaya> sed, does, \1
L981[16:50:07] <dequbed> @Z0idberg I don't say yropean so I will use 'an'. Bite me.
L982[16:50:17] <Z0id​berg> hahahaha
L983[16:50:21] <Izaya> well.
L984[16:50:26] <Izaya> It's not sed.
L985[16:50:41] <Inari> %bte dequbed
L986[16:50:42] <Izaya> That's enough mystery solving for one ... early morning.
L987[16:50:44] <Izaya> Time for bed.
L988[16:50:45] <Michiyo> https://github.com/PC-Logix/LanteaBot/blob/master/src/main/java/pcl/lc/irc/hooks/SED.java#L84-L88 Not anymore it's not.
L989[16:50:47] <Michiyo> it used to be
L990[16:50:50] <Inari> %bite dequbed
L991[16:50:50] <MichiBot> In​ari is trying to bite dequ​bed! They have 5 minutes if they want to attempt to %defend against it!
L992[16:50:54] <Z0id​berg> dequbed: Hand me my dentures
L993[16:50:55] <Michiyo> well, it was unix4java's SED
L994[16:50:55] <dequbed> %defend
L995[16:50:55] <MichiBot> Specify an action as the first parameter: block, guard, deflect, parry, counterspell, dodge
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L997[16:51:00] <Z0id​berg> Just kidding lol
L998[16:51:01] <dequbed> %block
L999[16:51:01] <MichiBot> dequbed failed to block Inari. With a 10 vs 12 dequbed takes the full 4 damage.
L1000[16:51:03] <Michiyo> which was... bad at the best of times.
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L1002[16:51:13] <Izaya> Michiyo: guessing it was freaking out from the discord side because it uses \ for things too?
L1003[16:51:23] <Z0id​berg> %lua "nope"
L1004[16:51:23] <MichiBot> nope
L1005[16:51:33] <Michiyo> I don't recall exactly why it got switched to Java patterns
L1006[16:51:49] <Z0id​berg> Because you love using 10 GB of ram to use java patterns.
L1007[16:51:51] <Vexatos> because java regex is proper regex, probably
L1008[16:51:57] <Inari> I mean
L1009[16:52:01] <Inari> It would be in the commit, no?
L1010[16:52:03] <Inari> No? ;D
L1011[16:52:10] <Michiyo> %ram
L1012[16:52:10] <MichiBot> Used RAM: 46.6 MB
L1013[16:52:26] <Michiyo> The whole bot is using 46MB, so... meh @"Z0idberg"
L1014[16:52:28] <dequbed> %wam
L1015[16:52:31] <dequbed> aw
L1016[16:52:39] <Z0id​berg> I was just making a Java joke
L1017[16:52:48] <Inari> 46mb for a simple bot, sad times
L1018[16:52:49] <Michiyo> Ah yes.
L1019[16:52:55] <Michiyo> Simple? lol
L1020[16:53:12] <Michiyo> a metric FUCKTON of stuff is kept in cache to make lookups faster.
L1021[16:53:42] <Vexatos> how many bots do you know that play their own dice-rolling game
L1022[16:53:50] <Vexatos> this is one of the most complex AIs ever made
L1023[16:54:03] <Z0id​berg> 2 + 2 = nope.
L1024[16:54:15] <Z0id​berg> wrong channel
L1025[16:55:09] <Forec​aster> I think I might need to apply some counterweights to this vehicle... https://tinyurl.com/yy47xolb
L1026[16:55:26] <Z0id​berg> It's comin' right for us!
L1027[16:55:28] <B​ob> nah its centered
L1028[16:56:40] <Forec​aster> not quite https://tinyurl.com/y34of4vj
L1029[16:56:46] <Forec​aster> it's closer than it looks though
L1030[16:57:10] <Forec​aster> also it ran out of power sitting there while I was working on the container...
L1031[16:57:24] <Forec​aster> I'm gonna have to put a connector on it so I can charge it
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L1034[17:16:29] <Shuud​oushi> dequbed I can communicate complex extract ideas via "exploitives" alone
L1035[17:26:10] <bad at​ vijya> thread local storage is making me angery
L1036[17:26:33] <Z0id​berg> Threads are bad
L1037[17:26:47] <Z0id​berg> Do you remember what Joe Armstrong said before he died?
L1038[17:27:00] <Z0id​berg> He said parallelism is very difficult. Don't do it.
L1039[17:51:14] <B​ob> he was born before Rust
L1040[17:52:07] <bad at​ vijya> 🙄
L1041[18:07:16] <Va​ur> %tonk
L1042[18:07:16] <MichiBot> Swell! Va​ur! You beat your own previous record of <0 (By 1 hour, 40 minutes and 31 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L1043[18:07:17] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 1 hour, 40 minutes and 31 seconds! No points gained for stealing from yourself. (Lost out on 0.00168)
L1044[18:08:03] <Va​ur> well, I guess that's a good moment to know that
L1045[18:13:22] <dequbed> @Shuudoushi I would agree but by definition you can't :p
L1046[18:22:40] <Michiyo> Shuu take your autocorrect out back and shoot it though.
L1047[18:22:42] <Michiyo> please.
L1048[18:27:25] <Ar​iri> confusion
L1049[18:29:28] <Kristo​pher38> @Lizzy-chan I can't seem to be able to register on the OC forum, when I try there's nothing under "security check" and I'm failing it (presumably a captcha should be there?) https://tinyurl.com/y6osszl7
L1050[18:30:15] <Lizzy​-chan> yeah, there should be. if you're using a plugin like noscript, make sure the capcha service is whitelisted
L1051[18:30:36] <Michiyo> https://drive.pc-logix.com/s/WEXgirrYrDGBrqM
L1052[18:30:46] <Michiyo> Its there for me, so yeah something is blocking it for you
L1053[18:31:32] <Kristo​pher38> I've got a clean chrome install without any plugins and it still doesn't show up for me
L1054[18:31:45] <Ocawesome101> firewall?
L1055[18:31:49] <Ocawesome101> pi-hole?
L1056[18:31:55] <Michiyo> shitty ISP?
L1057[18:32:52] <Kristo​pher38> 😒
L1058[18:32:54] <Michiyo> @Kristopher38 go here: https://www.keycaptcha.com/common-captcha-api/ click Demo on the top
L1059[18:32:57] <Michiyo> does that load?
L1060[18:33:02] <Michiyo> if not... something is blocking it.
L1061[18:33:19] <Kristo​pher38> it does
L1062[18:33:21] <Michiyo> Should look like:
L1063[18:33:21] <Michiyo> https://drive.pc-logix.com/s/nBoRoGF7QWiXsGx
L1064[18:33:42] <Kristo​pher38> yeah
L1065[18:33:43] <Kristo​pher38> https://tinyurl.com/yyk5ac7d
L1066[18:33:47] <Kristo​pher38> it loads allright
L1067[18:34:16] <Lizzy​-chan> oops, the forum's license key expired
L1068[18:34:35] <Michiyo> I've been using an expired IP.Board license for 6 years now.
L1069[18:34:35] <Michiyo> :p
L1070[18:36:13] <Michiyo> So, yay the IRS fucked me. Awesome news.
L1071[18:36:24] <Lizzy​-chan> ?
L1072[18:36:25] <Michiyo> They fucked a lot of us, honestly.
L1073[18:36:45] <Forecaster> %restart
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L1075[18:36:55] <Michiyo> We got a 2nd stimulus payment. Except they fucked up and submitted a BUNCH of the payments to the wrong accounts
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L1077[18:37:04] zsh sets mode: +v on MichiBot
L1078[18:37:22] <Forec​aster> %sip
L1079[18:37:44] <MichiBot> You drink a molten dirt potion (New!). Forecaster realizes this was actually a Liquid Quicksilver potion.
L1080[18:37:51] <Michiyo> When I filed last year I used Turbo Tax, and had them take the fees out of my return, which means my refund went through a 3rd party bank. the IRS HAS my ACTUAL Account info as they used it for the first payment.. but they fucked up and sent payments to that 3rd party account
L1081[18:37:55] <Michiyo> which has been closed for months.
L1082[18:38:39] <Michiyo> So their solution is to have us file for a credit on our 2020 taxes, and then wait *months* for it.
L1083[18:38:59] <Kristo​pher38> so... how do I proceed?
L1084[18:39:56] <Michiyo> Try not chrome?
L1085[18:40:08] <Michiyo> hit f12 and see if you notice issues in the console?
L1086[18:40:43] <Michiyo> the Captcha works for me across multiple browsers, and even computers in different geographical areas..
L1087[18:40:53] <Forec​aster> the potion timeout is now per-user \o/
L1088[18:45:33] <Kristo​pher38> OH
L1089[18:46:00] <Kristo​pher38> I know what's the bug now
L1090[18:46:48] * Michiyo waits
L1091[18:46:58] <Kristo​pher38> It works from the main forum page or in a subforum, but not from a thread
L1092[18:47:33] <Michiyo> Works from a thread for me too
L1093[18:48:00] <Michiyo> https://drive.pc-logix.com/s/cAottQ5ErR5niCn
L1094[18:48:01] <Michiyo> https://drive.pc-logix.com/s/BsAjCkXdD7D5DBd
L1095[18:48:37] <Kristo​pher38> try this specific one https://oc.cil.li/topic/2628-occult-practices-for-finding-ore
L1096[18:48:44] <Michiyo> So, odd, but atleast you got it figured out
L1097[18:50:39] <Forec​aster> It's a mystery Charlie Brown
L1098[18:50:56] <Michiyo> The resource https://oc.cil.li/applications/core/interface/ckeditor/ckeditor/skins/ips/editor.css?t=KA5K was preloaded using link preload but not used within a few seconds from the window's load event. Please make sure it has an appropriate `as` value and it is preloaded intentionally.
L1099[18:50:58] <Lizzy​-chan> i did just do an upgrade to the forum's code, might have kicked it into the working
L1100[18:51:13] <Michiyo> That is the only thing in the console on that thread that isn't on the main page, or the thread I was in
L1101[18:51:35] <Michiyo> So... an issue with ckeditor in a specific thread?
L1102[18:52:00] <Corded> * <Lizzy​-chan> shrugs
L1103[18:52:12] <Michiyo> that doesn't show up on Lizzy's thread, or the main page and it works there. but NOT on the thread linked above.
L1104[18:52:18] <Michiyo> So yeah, some javascript fuckery
L1105[18:53:51] <Lizzy​-chan> if i had the technical knowledge, time and will power i would totally either make my own forum software or switch to a different one that's free/open source but i don't
L1106[18:54:08] <Ocawesome101> build one using Lapis :^)
L1107[18:54:11] <Michiyo> a lot of the free ones suuuuuck
L1108[18:54:15] * Michiyo glares at phpBB
L1109[18:54:36] <Lizzy​-chan> there was one free/open source one that i thought was pretty decent
L1110[18:54:45] <Lizzy​-chan> i can't for the life of me remember it's name right now though
L1111[18:55:15] <Forec​aster> I've used myBB, it worked pretty well
L1112[18:58:01] <Lizzy​-chan> oh, maybe it was phpbb
L1113[18:58:14] <bad at​ vijya> oh hey i could make one
L1114[18:58:17] <bad at​ vijya> maybe
L1115[18:58:18] <bad at​ vijya> at some point
L1116[18:58:19] <Lizzy​-chan> i could have sworn i found another one with a different name
L1117[18:58:21] <bad at​ vijya> using lapis
L1118[18:58:42] <bad at​ vijya> then again
L1119[18:58:52] <bad at​ vijya> i rarely finish things
L1120[18:58:58] <Lizzy​-chan> eh, even if we did make our own, migrating all the stuff from the current one would be a pain
L1121[18:59:08] <bad at​ vijya> then again, i need forum shit for one of my projects
L1122[18:59:28] <Ocawesome101> how many projects are you juggling? :^)
L1123[19:00:39] <bad at​ vijya> well
L1124[19:00:51] <bad at​ vijya> i've only got two i'm actively working on right now
L1125[19:01:00] <bad at​ vijya> that being lunar station 444 and foxfs
L1126[19:01:14] <Ocawesome101> ah
L1127[19:01:27] <Ocawesome101> i need to make an OCFS driver but eh
L1128[19:01:41] <Ocawesome101> my first attempt is mostly broken
L1129[19:04:25] <bad at​ vijya> ls444 being ss13 but remade in lua with changes i think would be fun
L1130[19:04:33] <Ocawesome101> ss13?
L1131[19:04:39] <bad at​ vijya> i say "ss13 remade" but it's just
L1132[19:04:43] <bad at​ vijya> very ss13 inpired
L1133[19:04:48] <bad at​ vijya> inspired, even
L1134[19:04:50] <bad at​ vijya> space station 13
L1135[19:04:52] <Ocawesome101> ah
L1136[19:41:09] <FLO​RANA> hey curious does enyone know about OpenPeripheral Tapes?
L1137[19:52:50] <Forec​aster> know what?
L1138[19:55:30] <Michiyo> An addon mod, for the mod that shall not be named.
L1139[19:55:34] <Michiyo> :P
L1140[19:55:40] <Michiyo> from... MC 1.6?
L1141[20:02:30] <Forec​aster> it's for OC too
L1142[20:08:19] <FLO​RANA> yah it's a ComputerCraft/OpenComputers mod
L1143[20:08:47] <FLO​RANA> it's a great addon but have verry little documentation '3'
L1144[20:08:48] <Michiyo> The only taps are Vex's tapes. 'nough said.
L1145[20:08:52] <Michiyo> tapes*
L1146[20:08:56] <Michiyo> :P
L1147[20:09:15] <Forec​aster> will tap your tapes
L1148[20:09:16] <Michiyo> I last used OpenP back when 1.6.4 was new... sooooooo no I don't recall very much of it.
L1149[20:09:19] <Michiyo> Oh my
L1150[20:10:25] <Forec​aster> %sip
L1151[20:10:26] <MichiBot> You drink a hairy black potion (New!). The potion contained a computer virus! But Forecaster's anti-virus routines destroy it.
L1152[20:10:28] <FLO​RANA> well yah their like one of the old mods in minecraft that has cassette tapes
L1153[20:10:29] <Vexatos> openperipherals has tapes? .-.
L1154[20:10:33] <FLO​RANA> https://wiki.vexatos.com/wiki:computronics:tape
L1155[20:10:35] <FLO​RANA> yah
L1156[20:10:45] <Vexatos> that doesn't look like openperipherals to me
L1157[20:10:54] <FLO​RANA> oh wait
L1158[20:11:01] <FLO​RANA> i was saying the wrong mod
L1159[20:11:06] <Forec​aster> whoever heard of a "computronic"
L1160[20:11:08] <FLO​RANA> i;m stupid
L1161[20:11:15] <Michiyo> lmfao.
L1162[20:11:16] <Vexatos> the domain name is suspicious too I guess
L1163[20:11:31] <Michiyo> You should speak to whoever purchased that.
L1164[20:11:58] <FLO​RANA> it's real wiki site tho
L1165[20:12:02] <Vexatos> it is indeed
L1166[20:12:10] <Forec​aster> it's probably a scam
L1167[20:12:28] <Michiyo> @FLORANA yes, it's Vex's site, and I host it... lol
L1168[20:13:03] <FLO​RANA> yah i assumed that and i didn't know you hosted it
L1169[20:13:47] <FLO​RANA> curious how do you even set your image for IRC relay?
L1170[20:14:08] <FLO​RANA> it just now crossed my mind
L1171[20:14:10] <Forec​aster> %avatar
L1172[20:14:10] <MichiBot> Forec​aster: Use `!setmyavatar <url>`
L1173[20:14:18] <FLO​RANA> ah
L1174[20:14:42] <Michiyo> Yeah, people kept trying to use MichiBot to set their Discord avatars.
L1175[20:14:43] <Michiyo> lol
L1176[20:15:02] <Forec​aster> it's more that nobody could ever remember the actual command
L1177[20:15:03] <Michiyo> it has to be a DIRECT LINK TO AN IMAGE.
L1178[20:15:09] <Forec​aster> so I added that as a reminder :P
L1179[20:15:13] <Michiyo> Not a page with an image on it.
L1180[20:15:18] <Michiyo> not a redirect to an image
L1181[20:15:48] <Michiyo> not a php script that displays an image (Though it MIGHT if it outputs the image DIRECTLY to the browser)..
L1182[20:15:55] <Vexatos> I should make mine a a black sans-serif letter V on a pale lime background
L1183[20:15:55] <Amanda> what about the faint recollection of an image, Michiyo
L1184[20:16:39] <Michiyo> Vexatos, what a CRAZY idea!
L1185[20:16:46] <Michiyo> Amanda, unlikely but give it a shot! :P
L1186[20:17:09] <Amanda> %choose continue minifying or halucinate
L1187[20:17:10] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Elementary dear Watson, "continue minifying" is the obvious choice!
L1188[20:17:19] <Amanda> If it's so obvious, it must be a trap!
L1189[20:17:31] <Ariri> End me: https://lcars5201.ddns.net/index.php/s/5cRRcRi8PkYRtob/preview
L1190[20:17:55] <FLO​RANA> whats that?
L1191[20:18:11] * dequbed `systemctl stop`'s Ariri
L1192[20:18:15] <Amanda> Ariri: I'll give you $3.50 for the lot of it
L1193[20:18:24] <Ariri> Engineering list for a game I play, dark orange is all the stuff I have to collect, which is a PITA
L1194[20:18:30] <Michiyo> $3.51!
L1195[20:18:45] <Ariri> Going once, going twice
L1196[20:18:53] <dequbed> 3.5233333$
L1197[20:19:04] <Michiyo> damn, too rich for my blood. I'm out.
L1198[20:19:19] <Ariri> My engineering pain and suffering sold to dequbed for [int error]
L1199[20:19:25] <dequbed> \o/
L1200[20:19:29] <Michiyo> lmao
L1201[20:19:38] <dequbed> Ariri++
L1202[20:19:39] <MichiBot> dequbed: Ariri now has 4 points
L1203[20:19:47] <Ariri> "Oh yeah sure I'll write an article about the Imperial Courier, no problem Mr. manager sir!"
L1204[20:20:05] <Ariri> >3 days before deadline, while Thargoids are attacking
L1205[20:20:27] <dequbed> Ariri: Have you considered a) Responding with "Fuck you pay me!"?
L1206[20:20:39] <Forec​aster> I just heard that the Lakon company is being sold
L1207[20:21:07] <Ariri> dequbed, I would, but the entire organization is voluntary so... I signed up for it, lol
L1208[20:21:32] <Ariri> Forecaster: Yeah it's probably to tie in the new SRV with Odyssey, as Lakon's sub company made the Scarab
L1209[20:21:58] <Ariri> Dev diaries and stuff lead me to the same conclusion, with the multicrew SRV support finally ebing added
L1210[20:21:59] <Forec​aster> has a new SRV been confirmed?
L1211[20:22:08] <Forec​aster> oh, neat
L1212[20:22:10] <Ariri> Not confirmed, but pretty much obvious
L1213[20:22:25] <Ariri> Troop transport, or something like that, if there isn't on other variant
L1214[20:22:31] <Ariri> s/on/one
L1215[20:22:32] <MichiBot> <Ariri> Troop transport, or something like that, if there isn't one other variant
L1216[20:23:18] <Forec​aster> this will be a fun alpha (maybe)
L1217[20:23:27] <Ariri> I am so sick of HGE farming, even more so then data grinding for ranks
L1218[20:23:43] <Ariri> Took me 3 straight days for my AX Chieftain
L1219[20:23:58] <Forec​aster> mmyeah
L1220[20:24:44] <Forec​aster> I wish they'd change surface material collecting, but it seems unlikely
L1221[20:25:37] <Ariri> Surface materials aren't that bad, with that one system that has like 4 g5 mats, and you hardly need data anyways
L1222[20:26:02] <Ariri> But you need manu mats for like *everything* else that isn't heatsink synthing
L1223[20:26:36] <Ariri> er, heatsink synth needs manu mats too, but SRV and jumponium doesn't
L1224[20:26:45] <Forec​aster> I'd like it to be something more than shooting rocks with a cannon
L1225[20:27:50] <Ariri> Maybe EVA material mining will be added, who knows
L1226[20:28:18] <Ariri> Having to quit the game to get g5 manufactured stuff is just plain stupid anyhow
L1227[20:33:38] <Forec​aster> %tonkout
L1228[20:33:38] <MichiBot> Wild! Forec​aster! You beat Va​ur's previous record of 1 hour, 40 minutes and 31 seconds (By 45 minutes and 50 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L1229[20:33:39] <MichiBot> Forec​aster has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.002 tonk points! plus 0.001 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 0.0256. Position #4 Need 0.02028 more points to pass Va​ur!
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L1231[20:40:35] <Forec​aster> %sip
L1232[20:40:35] <MichiBot> You drink a shiny lime potion (New!). Forecaster feels slightly less agile.
L1233[20:40:52] <Forec​aster> well, that undoes the "more agile" I got yesterday
L1234[21:45:54] <ThePi​Guy24> man shits really going down in the US rn
L1235[21:46:32] <Michiyo> yes... yes it is
L1236[21:56:17] <dequbed> More than usual?
L1237[21:56:31] <ThePi​Guy24> depends how you define usual
L1238[21:57:03] <Forec​aster> more than USual
L1239[21:57:13] <dequbed> "U.S. Capitol on lockdown after pro-Trump protesters breach barricades" ... oh.
L1240[21:57:13] <Amanda> I'm not sure how much worse it can be (that I want to know about) Than the president pardoning literal war criminals
L1241[22:01:44] <CompanionCube> 'Tammy Duckworth was just on the phone with CBS news, said they've relocated to a secure location, WITH the envelopes, and are still certifying the results as we speak.'
L1242[22:04:55] <bad at​ vijya> FAA got hacked
L1243[22:05:01] <bad at​ vijya> as a reminder
L1244[22:08:47] <dequbed> Amanda: Want popcorn, chocolate or distraction? :p
L1245[22:09:52] <Amanda> the latter would be best
L1246[22:13:40] <Vampyre> mornin
L1247[22:13:50] <Vampyre> %drink coffee
L1248[22:13:51] <MichiBot> Vam​pyre: Vampyre has some coffee. It's hot and bitter.
L1249[22:14:01] * Vampyre HP +4
L1250[22:14:28] <dequbed> %bite Vampyre
L1251[22:14:28] <MichiBot> deq​ubed is trying to bite Vamp​yre! They have 5 minutes if they want to attempt to %defend against it!
L1252[22:14:38] <Vampyre> oh, no defense needed
L1253[22:14:42] <Vampyre> bring it
L1254[22:18:37] <dequbed> This C++ code is just /wonderful/. `/* clang-format off */ <a class definition vomited into the file> /* clang-format on */ <rest of the code>`
L1255[22:19:09] <B​ob> 🦀
L1256[22:19:22] <Amanda> yes yes, we get it @Bob, you ave crabs
L1257[22:19:35] <MichiBot> dequbed is biting Vampyre for 1d6 => 6 damage!
L1258[22:19:39] <Amanda> you should see a doctor, not textabout it every time any programming comesup in IRC
L1259[22:19:47] <dequbed> Vampyre: There go your +4 HP ;)
L1260[22:19:51] <Vampyre> ahhhhhhhh... more! more!
L1261[22:20:00] <Vampyre> thank you! dequbed! ;-)
L1262[22:20:00] <Michiyo> AIGHT TIME TO GO..... o_O
L1263[22:20:12] <B​ob> 🔫
L1264[22:20:20] <Amanda> %splash Vampyre with water
L1265[22:20:20] <MichiBot> This doesn't seem to be a potion I recognize... Make sure it has an appearance and consistency keyword, and the word "potion" in it.
L1266[22:20:26] <Amanda> mean
L1267[22:20:41] <B​ob> a water potion, questionable
L1268[22:20:53] <dequbed> Vampyre: If you're trying to weird me out with fetishes, you're at the *very* wrong address. Still, bonk! Go to horny jail!
L1269[22:21:29] <Vampyre> lol, I'm not, the werrding out usually happens without me trying
L1270[22:21:34] <Amanda> say hello to your cellmate: Inari
L1271[22:22:02] <dequbed> Amanda: FUCK no. They get solitary confinement. Just IMAGINE giving Inari a lewd cellmate! q.q
L1272[22:22:48] <Forec​aster> she's not that bad nowadays
L1273[22:22:51] <Vampyre> there is nothing lewd abbout biting vampires... it's out survival strategy...
L1274[22:22:58] <Vampyre> nothing more!
L1275[22:23:00] <Vampyre> really!
L1276[22:23:10] <dequbed> %stab Vampyre with a wooden stake
L1277[22:23:10] <MichiBot> deq​ubed is trying to stab Vamp​yre! They have 5 minutes if they want to attempt to %defend against it!
L1278[22:23:32] <Vampyre> ok, now I'lll just turn into a bat and fly up a tree.... this is getting dangerous
L1279[22:23:39] <Vampyre> %defend
L1280[22:23:39] <MichiBot> Specify an action as the first parameter: block, guard, deflect, parry, counterspell, dodge
L1281[22:23:46] <Vampyre> %defend sodge
L1282[22:23:46] <MichiBot> Specify an action as the first parameter: block, guard, deflect, parry, counterspell, dodge
L1283[22:23:52] <dequbed> just %dodge
L1284[22:23:53] <MichiBot> deq​ubed: Nothing to defend against right now.
L1285[22:23:54] <Vampyre> %defend dodge
L1286[22:23:54] <MichiBot> Vampyre failed to dodge dequbed wielding with a wooden stake. With a 10 vs 12 Vampyre takes the full 2 damage.
L1287[22:24:01] <Vampyre> ouch!
L1288[22:24:19] <Vampyre> ok, ok..... I'll just die in a corner then... fine...
L1289[22:24:29] <Forec​aster> each attack and defend subcommand has a shortcut
L1290[22:25:17] <Vampyre> anyway, me -> saltmines for an hour or so, so later ;-)
L1291[22:29:11] <Forec​aster> once I figure out what the scheduler is doing I need to add a "yield" or something so you don't have to wait 5 minutes if you don't want to defend
L1292[22:41:38] <Forec​aster> ooh
L1293[22:41:39] <Forec​aster> https://tinyurl.com/yy4bvrwq
L1294[22:41:41] <Forec​aster> fancy
L1295[22:42:17] <Forec​aster> ah, hm
L1296[22:42:25] <Forec​aster> not as great as I was hoping https://tinyurl.com/y6zhh9je
L1297[22:42:34] <Forec​aster> -5 dex is unfortunate
L1298[22:42:51] <Forec​aster> think I'd rather keep my +2 robe
L1299[22:52:09] <Ko​dos> What is that game
L1300[22:53:18] <Forecaster> %command add crawl It's a roguelike called Crawl: Stone Soup
L1301[22:53:19] <MichiBot> Forecaster: Command Added! Don't forget to set help text with addcommandhelp!
L1302[22:53:59] <Amanda> %addcommandhelp crawl This is a command @Forecaster added to be lazy
L1303[22:53:59] <MichiBot> Amanda: fail 2
L1304[22:54:03] <Amanda> :(
L1305[22:54:48] <Amanda> man, Proton has advanceda lott. I remember when there was just two options in the drop-down, and one ofthem was something I compiled myself
L1306[22:56:00] <Forec​aster> "fail 2" means the list of registered commands doesn't contain the command
L1307[22:56:01] <Forec​aster> weird
L1308[22:56:06] <Forec​aster> %crawl
L1309[22:56:18] <Forec​aster> oh, does it not register the command
L1310[22:59:08] <Forec​aster> nope, woops
L1311[22:59:40] ⇦ Quits: LeshaInc (~LeshaInc@fomalhaut.me) (Ping timeout: 198 seconds)
L1312[22:59:56] <CompanionCube> https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1346952924296048641
L1313[22:59:58] <MichiBot> Wed Jan 06 22:52:56 UTC 2021 @MSNBC: BREAKING: Woman who was shot inside the US Capitol building has died, several law enforcement officials say. -… <https://t.co/WCK8hLn4Hv&gt;
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L1315[23:10:42] <Forec​aster> hm, no it should work
L1316[23:11:26] ⇨ Joins: Vexaton (~Vexatos@port-92-192-39-185.dynamic.as20676.net)
L1317[23:11:26] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexaton
L1318[23:11:28] ⇦ Quits: Vexaton (~Vexatos@port-92-192-39-185.dynamic.as20676.net) (Client Quit)
L1319[23:11:32] <i develo​p things> hm
L1320[23:11:33] <i develo​p things> yes
L1321[23:11:36] <i develo​p things> the US is awful
L1322[23:11:41] <i develo​p things> nobody was surprised
L1323[23:14:18] ⇦ Quits: Vexatos (~Vexatos@port-92-192-69-65.dynamic.as20676.net) (Ping timeout: 198 seconds)
L1324[23:34:08] <Va​ur> %tonk
L1325[23:34:09] <MichiBot> Woooo! Va​ur! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of <0 (By 3 hours and 30 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L1326[23:34:10] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 3 hours and 30 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.00301 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #3 => #2. (Overtook ThePiGuy24) Need 0.01671 more points to pass Compan​ionCube!
L1327[23:34:34] <ThePiGuy24> oi
L1328[23:35:14] <Va​ur> I mean ... its been coming, I had been catching up for a while 😄
L1329[23:35:33] <Forec​aster> %redshell CompanionCube
L1330[23:35:34] <MichiBot> Forec​aster: You hit CompanionCube! They lost 0.02 tonk points which you gain! Congratulations! Position #4 => #3 (Overtook CompanionCube) Need 0.00067 more points to pass ThePi​Guy24!
L1331[23:35:45] <CompanionCube> well done
L1332[23:35:47] <Forec​aster> woo
L1333[23:36:18] <CompanionCube> oh wow it's actually tie
L1334[23:36:36] <ThePiGuy24> %tonkleaders
L1335[23:36:49] <ThePiGuy24> ...
L1336[23:37:06] <Michiyo> I'm pretty sure all of those commands share the same timeout
L1337[23:37:09] <Michiyo> https://michibot.pc-logix.com/tonk
L1338[23:37:27] <ThePiGuy24> corded isnt working
L1339[23:37:43] <ThePiGuy24> yeah its borked all of a sudden
L1340[23:38:58] <Forec​aster> first shot missed
L1341[23:38:58] <Forec​aster> now I'm out of red shells though
L1342[23:38:58] <Forec​aster> %shellcount
L1343[23:39:03] <Forecaster> oh hey
L1344[23:39:10] <MichiBot> Forec​aster: You have 1 Blue Shell, 1 Red Shell, and 5 Green Shells
L1345[23:39:18] <MichiBot> ThePi​Guy24: https://michibot.pc-logix.com/tonk
L1346[23:39:38] <Mic​hiyo> The API can fuck up and break stuff
L1347[23:39:50] <Mic​hiyo> NOT related to the client.
L1348[23:39:59] <Michiyo> .
L1349[23:40:02] <Mic​hiyo> .
L1350[23:40:04] <Va​ur> oh dear ... I'm first
L1351[23:40:29] <ThePi​Guy24> well atleast in 2nd again :p
L1352[23:40:52] <ThePi​Guy24> also the chat client uses the api...
L1353[23:41:12] <Michiyo> I'm not arguing over the thing that I've seen time and time again.
L1354[23:41:16] <Michiyo> So whatever.
L1355[23:41:41] <Va​ur> bot and clients use different part of the api it feels like
L1356[23:41:54] <Va​ur> bots are always the first ones to go when there is an issue
L1357[23:42:00] <ThePi​Guy24> open up the network monitor and look at what uri it accesses
L1358[23:42:41] <Va​ur> yeah I'm not that smart, sorry
L1359[23:43:40] <ThePi​Guy24> control shift i, network tab, i am not responsible if you break anything, and probably dont share your auth token if you find it
L1360[23:44:12] <ThePi​Guy24> and bots and clients use the same api, just different tokens
L1361[23:44:23] <Forec​aster> oh right you start with 3 red shells and 5 green
L1362[23:50:13] <bad at​ vijya> you, solely, are responsible for this
L1363[23:50:57] <Amanda> ThePiGuy24: however bots and clients interact with the APIs differently, which can lead to state bugs
L1364[23:51:10] <ThePiGuy24> true
L1365[23:51:17] <Amanda> And they probably largely test with clients
L1366[23:51:29] <Forec​aster> I blame past me, and my poor memory
L1367[23:53:14] <Amanda> This is further complicated by the fact they outright ban alternative clients
L1368[23:53:35] <Amanda> so there's no people behind these different API flows
L1369[23:54:13] <Amanda> ripcord,for instance, just stops receiveing messages for me after a couple minutes
L1370[23:58:21] ⇦ Quits: Inari (~Pinkishu@p508ef529.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Quit: KVIrc 5.0.0 Aria http://www.kvirc.net/)
L1371[23:58:59] <Forec​aster> %sip
L1372[23:58:59] <MichiBot> You drink a mutable iron potion (New!). Forecaster turns into a unicorn boy until they stop thinking about it.
L1373[23:59:28] <Forec​aster> Good thing I'm about to sleep
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