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L1[00:03:00] <Mic​hiyo> You wouldn't
L2[00:03:23] <Mic​hiyo> the address is just a uuid, generated just like all of the other uuids.
L3[00:08:37] <Kristo​pher38> @Bob there was this thing
L4[00:08:46] <Kristo​pher38> Something like device info?
L5[00:09:20] <Kristo​pher38> There's a method computer.something
L6[00:10:04] <Kristo​pher38> Which returns all the fantasy (made up device name and manufacturer) but also some useful info
L7[00:10:06] <B​ob> yeah but from outside tho
L8[00:10:31] <Kristo​pher38> Outside as in from the network?
L9[00:10:38] <B​ob> from the save file
L10[00:10:53] <B​ob> i know from the game i can just use computer stat / filesystem component magic
L11[00:10:59] <Kristo​pher38> Oh so that's what you meant
L12[00:11:18] <Kristo​pher38> I wish there was a way
L13[00:11:36] <Kristo​pher38> Maybe leave some empty file on every drive which would signify its size
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L19[00:57:14] <Michiyo> FFS
L20[01:21:23] <Michiyo> .
L21[01:34:44] <Brisingr​Aerowing> Having fun, Michiyo? (/s)
L22[01:34:57] <Michiyo> Oh yes.,
L23[01:35:00] <Michiyo> Tons
L24[01:35:07] <Michiyo> the other IP is still fucked
L25[01:35:18] <Michiyo> and OVH still has to shut my server down at some point to fix the IPMI
L26[01:35:43] <Michiyo> So yeah, it's great.
L27[01:35:57] <Michiyo> I still need to migrate everything back to my now (Broken) server!
L28[01:37:11] <Michiyo> have I mentioned I hate myself?
L29[01:37:19] <Michiyo> Also, fucking co-workers suck.
L30[01:37:34] <ben_mkiv> finally we talk
L31[01:37:40] <Michiyo> "Here let me give you a bunch of stuff to do TONIGHT, at 5PM, when you're supposed to leave.
L32[01:37:44] <Michiyo> "
L33[01:38:46] <Michiyo> Cause who cares that you're working 20 god damn hours a day... I'm leaving @ 5 sucka!
L34[01:38:52] <Michiyo> %flip
L35[01:38:52] <MichiBot> Mic​hiyo: (╯°□°）╯┻━┻
L36[01:40:25] <Michiyo> hi ben_mkiv yes?
L37[01:40:55] <ben_mkiv> because of the hate for everything
L38[01:40:59] <Mic​hiyo> GOD DAMN IT
L39[01:41:12] <Mic​hiyo> FUCK YOU FUCKING WHATEVER KEEPS KILLING MY IRC CONNECTION
L40[01:41:14] <ben_mkiv> but i managed to fix my corrupted unreal project after 2 hours...
L41[01:41:17] <Mic​hiyo> [0pWEIHYTR[oHSWET[oHSETG{OhSDE"OTGHD"OHG
L42[01:42:05] <Mic​hiyo> %test
L43[01:42:06] <MichiBot> Mic​hiyo: No.
L44[01:42:27] <Michiyo> %p
L45[01:42:49] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Mic​hiyo 21.98s
L46[01:43:03] <Mic​hiyo> FUCKING WHAT
L47[01:43:23] <Michiyo> %p
L48[01:43:24] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Mic​hiyo 1.82s
L49[01:43:32] <Michiyo> I mean.. that's "better"
L50[01:44:36] <ThePi​Guy24> %p
L51[01:44:36] <MichiBot> ThePi​Guy24: Sorry. You can't get your ping from over a bridge. You can ping irc users by passing one or more as arguments.
L52[01:44:44] <ThePi​Guy24> ah yes i am dumbe
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L54[02:38:32] <Michiyo> .
L55[02:38:46] <Michiyo> %p
L56[02:38:47] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Mic​hiyo 0.3s
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L58[03:11:52] <Izaya> https://shitposter.club/media/8dfaedfaa3c9447cda0a20ea56eb9699d60e0dfced71eba298cb6dc5e65ebda4.oga?name=federation.oga
L59[03:14:24] <Ariri> Yummy
L60[03:35:01] <Michiyo> fuck everything.
L61[03:49:12] <Michiyo> 1506 packets transmitted, 748 received, 50.332% packet loss, time 1522234ms So yeah, something is fucky even on another IP
L62[03:49:15] <Michiyo> *sigh*
L63[03:50:02] <Mic​hiyo> And I disconnected right after that message..
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L69[04:30:45] <Amanda> nomnomnom, network packets
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L71[04:43:55] <Ocawesome101> example of code generated by the C -> Lua transpiler i'm working on: http://0x0.st/i7ud.lua
L72[04:44:08] <Ocawesome101> no ASTs, only string.gsub and one or two other things :D
L73[04:58:20] <CompanionCube> Izaya: presented without comment: https://psychoslinux.gitlab.io/486/index_mobile.html
L74[05:04:38] <Ocawesome101> interesting lol
L75[05:05:10] <Izaya> CompanionCube: seen it, I'm mad
L76[05:05:16] <Izaya> they stole my name
L77[05:05:45] <CompanionCube> Izaya: but it'd be very on-brand for you regardless.
L78[05:06:19] <Ocawesome101> Izaya: rate my c -> lua output
L79[05:06:26] <CompanionCube> especially when looking at theouterlinux's website
L80[05:06:42] <Ocawesome101> (a few messages up)
L81[05:07:35] <CompanionCube> gopher, retro machines, haiku, an obvious missing thing is 9front though.
L82[05:07:35] <Izaya> Ocawesome101: you scare me
L83[05:08:01] <Ocawesome101> :D
L84[05:08:12] <Izaya> THAT SAID
L85[05:08:18] <Ocawesome101> terrible isn't it
L86[05:08:30] <Izaya> if it works, you're even scarier, because most people don't get that far
L87[05:08:32] <Izaya> :D
L88[05:08:32] <CompanionCube> Ocawesome101: which part of C do you expect to find it hardest to implement?
L89[05:08:40] <Ocawesome101> no idea
L90[05:08:56] <Ocawesome101> the part i can't pull off using gsub, sticks, and duct tape
L91[05:09:06] <Ocawesome101> Izaya: i can alllllmost print things to the console!
L92[05:09:16] <Ocawesome101> just gotta figure out why __tostring isn't working
L93[05:09:55] <Amanda> Sorry, I eated it
L94[05:10:03] <Ocawesome101> hey! D:
L95[05:10:11] <Ocawesome101> ooh
L96[05:10:13] <Ocawesome101> OOH
L97[05:10:14] <Ocawesome101> i fixed it!
L98[05:10:16] * Amanda burps up some underscores, curls up around Elfi
L99[05:10:29] * CompanionCube imagines tripping it up by doing such things as flipping the array index and the name
L100[05:10:32] <Ocawesome101> that test program now prints "Hello, world!"
L101[05:11:13] <Amanda> Elfi: fire squirrel likes to sleep in the forge, d'awwww
L102[05:11:28] * Amanda tucks in, zzzmews
L103[05:11:32] <Amanda> Night nerds
L104[05:21:29] <Ocawesome101> source code is at https://github.com/ocawesome101/lua-c-compiler
L105[05:28:16] <Ocawesome101> %ispayonelsemugoodyet
L106[05:28:16] <MichiBot> Ocawes​ome101: no.
L107[05:28:22] <Ocawesome101> that should be changed
L108[05:28:34] <Ocawesome101> %isgamaxsemugoodyet
L109[05:28:34] <MichiBot> Ocawes​ome101: yes.
L110[05:58:01] <Ariri> Izaya, #ratchat is pretty... interesting when there's no cases https://lcars5201.ddns.net/index.php/s/cX6k4G3r8RKkGEg/preview
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L127[07:18:43] <bad at​ vijya> https://tinyurl.com/yywu2adx
L128[07:52:02] <Klea​dron> https://tinyurl.com/y6q96fbf
L129[07:52:05] <Klea​dron> pls dont hurt me
L130[08:21:22] <Izaya> dequbed: so I needed a colonist with plants level 10. I locked them in a box with some soil, a bed, a wall fridge, and had them repeatedly sow and cut roses for a month.
L131[08:25:04] <Forec​aster> %tonkout
L132[08:25:04] <MichiBot> Fudge! Forec​aster! You beat simo​n816's previous record of 13 hours, 5 minutes and 30 seconds (By 18 minutes and 1 second)! I hope you're happy!
L133[08:25:05] <MichiBot> Forec​aster has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.013 tonk points! plus 0.012 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 1.66980097. Position #2 Need 0.03893894 more points to pass Compan​ionCube!
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L136[09:02:25] <Vexatos> @Forecaster audio in the latest video is a bit desynced
L137[09:10:19] <Forec​aster> Weird
L138[09:20:53] <Vexatos> it gets even more desynced around 13 minutes, huh
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L140[09:32:04] <SquidDev> %tonk
L141[09:32:04] <MichiBot> Holy tiny model shoe Batman! Squi​dDev! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of <0 (By 1 hour, 6 minutes and 59 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L142[09:32:05] <MichiBot> SquidDev's new record is 1 hour, 6 minutes and 59 seconds! SquidDev also gained 0.00112 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #3. Need 0.29144289 more points to pass Forec​aster!
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L144[09:40:48] <dequbed> Izaya: You haven't lived until you walled in a colonist with a nutrient paste dispenser so they focus 24/7 on getting gud.
L145[09:41:23] <dequbed> Wall fridge the can't walk through is fine as well though.
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L148[09:52:20] <Izaya> also you may be happy to know that I've made some spots intentionally "weaker" for the AI to attach
L149[09:52:22] <Izaya> attack*
L150[09:52:36] <Izaya> namely the wooden fences at either end, which provide cover for my guys with tranq rifles
L151[10:01:51] <dequbed> On the topic of AI; sappers will specifically look out for spaces without turret cover. The turrets don't have to be powered to be considered providing cover. So you can channel sappers by placing disabled turrets with overlapping areas everywhere except for the one place where you want them to go.
L152[10:02:08] <dequbed> Only works if you don't use mods like CE of course
L153[10:02:17] <Izaya> https://imgur.com/iT3wFJl.png behold my ~~drug lab~~ hospital
L154[10:03:16] <dequbed> Neat. Now make all that corn into whiskey and become the drug boss you always wanted to be ;)
L155[10:03:41] <Izaya> I grew way too much corn.
L156[10:03:54] <Izaya> Now I have greenhouses that can produce stuff all year round :D
L157[10:04:27] <Kristo​pher38> pretty neatly built
L158[10:04:35] <Kristo​pher38> I wish I could plan out shit like that
L159[10:04:40] <dequbed> I don't think there's such a thing as "too much food" in rimworld.
L160[10:04:54] <Kristo​pher38> on tundra it's pretty much "just build it already whatever it looks"
L161[10:04:54] <Izaya> you have too much when it rots in the field because the AI is dumb
L162[10:05:11] <dequbed> Disaster can always strike and RimWorld does not simulate decay of frozen food correctly.
L163[10:05:26] <Izaya> considering expanding my freezer I must admit
L164[10:05:43] <dequbed> No, then you only have too much getting ripe at once :p
L165[10:05:44] <Izaya> Can't hurt to have fucktonnes of stored corn can it?
L166[10:06:34] <dequbed> Nope. I mean it may happen that you get a nuclear winter, poison ship and non-stop raids at once, Randy be thanked :P
L167[10:07:26] <dequbed> But then again you may just get a year-long eclipse, how's your power generation?
L168[10:07:49] <Izaya> it concerns me intensely that I only have one geothermal generator but it hasn't been targeted yet
L169[10:08:06] <Izaya> knowing my luck a satellite will crash into it
L170[10:08:30] <dequbed> Do you have a mod to prevent flares taking down your everything?
L171[10:08:36] <Izaya> Nope :D
L172[10:08:54] <Izaya> Only real issue will be production of some things, and the freezer.
L173[10:09:06] <Izaya> All of my heating is done with fireplaces, cooking is done with a fueled stove.
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L175[10:10:03] <dequbed> I wanted to write a mod that adds thermal storage. very complex to build, takes tons of cooling capacity to get down to temp but will give you back most of that for flares etc.
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L178[10:13:10] <dequbed> Thermal storage as in stores thermal mass. Think a block of paraffin wax that freezes at -10℃ . To get it below that takes a lot of energy but if your coolers stop working the block has to thaw out first before your freezer warms up much beyond -10℃ . Helps bridge over those flares.
L179[10:36:51] <Kristo​pher38> ooh so like a way of storing coldness?
L180[10:38:05] <Izaya> or heat
L181[10:38:15] <Izaya> there are buildings designed along those lines IRL
L182[10:38:29] <Izaya> usually the walls themselves hold the thermal mass though
L183[10:38:51] <Kristo​pher38> Reminds me of flywheels as a way to store kinetic energy
L184[10:39:20] <Vexatos> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enthalpy_of_fusion
L185[10:40:15] <Vexatos> it's the reason why ice in water is always exactly 0°C
L186[10:40:23] <Vexatos> and cannot be any higher or lower as long as both ice and water are still there
L187[10:41:09] <Vexatos> (it's also why 0°C and 100°C are so easy to measure, as you have a lot of time to measure those specific temperatures, which is why the celsius scale was invented)
L188[10:41:32] <Kristo​pher38> I went on a trip to an old mine transformed into a museum this summer, they had this huge ass flywheel that was used to store kinetic energy in case the power went out, you would transform that kinetic energy into electricity by spinning it down
L189[10:42:01] <Kristo​pher38> I love how it's so simple
L190[10:43:20] * Izaya gives Kristopher38 spacecraft attitude control systems
L191[10:44:29] <Kristo​pher38> I had pics somewhere but forgot where
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L197[13:10:02] <dequbed> Izaya / Krisopher38 for reference, that is a completely real thing. It's usually called a "thermal battery" and used in refridgerators - especially mobile or cryogenic ones, HVAC systems, and such. I just want to apply that real solution to a rimworld problem :P
L198[13:13:11] <dequbed> Vexatos: Conversely to the Fahrenheit scale which was invented because some random bloke put a mercury filled cylinder in his behind and in the coldest ice solution he could produce because he couldn't think of any other application of thermometers. Which is why degree Fahrenheit are exactly relational to mercury expansion, and have the most senseless definite points ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L199[13:13:49] <dequbed> Not to mention that he actually missed on both accounts but so did Celcius to be fair.
L200[13:16:52] <ThePi​Guy24> we need to use joules/cm^3 as a unit of temperature
L201[13:17:12] <ThePi​Guy24> or is that not a unit of temperature
L202[13:17:14] <ThePi​Guy24> idk
L203[13:17:22] <ThePi​Guy24> i didnt do too good in physics
L204[13:17:32] <dequbed> No, not really. SI has the well defined Kelvin and modern Celsius has been accurately pinned to universe constants.
L205[13:17:51] <dequbed> Kelvin has been and Celsius is a linear offset to that so it is as well rather.
L206[13:18:26] <ThePi​Guy24> yeah but its still an arbitrary amount
L207[13:18:32] <dequbed> No, not at all.
L208[13:18:40] <dequbed> Pure Water melts at 0.0001 degree celsius.
L209[13:18:54] <ThePi​Guy24> thats because thats how it was defined
L210[13:19:54] <dequbed> Yeah but other than "the body temperature of my butt" and "the melting point of that random particular batch of salty water Fahrenheit had at home that day" the two points are well defined.
L211[13:21:12] <dequbed> The exact triple point of Vienna Standard Mean Ocean Water (yes, that's a thing) is very well defined - the Bolzmann constant used nowadays is even more so.
L212[13:21:42] <ThePi​Guy24> ok new unit of temperature: the 🅱️elvin, 1 🅱️elvin is equal to the temperature at which platinum evaporates at 69 atmospheres
L213[13:22:20] <dequbed> The only real advantage of degree Fahrenheit is that it maps to mercury expansion exactly, so you can use a normal measuring tape with fuckall fractions. But that doesn't matter in the age of alcohol thermometers and even less in the age of digital ones.
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L218[14:50:52] <Amanda> D:
L219[14:50:55] <Amanda> I failed.
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L221[14:52:57] <Amanda> also.
L222[14:53:07] <Amanda> dequbed: I thought it was a horse he measured, not himself.
L223[14:53:37] <Amanda> Because the human body idles aroune 98°F
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L227[15:05:20] <dequbed> Amanda: That would explain how he got it so horribly wrong. I assumed he just measured surface temp instead of interior and at a same time of day.
L228[15:05:25] <dequbed> s/same/bad/
L229[15:05:26] <MichiBot> <dequbed> Amanda: That would explain how he got it so horribly wrong. I assumed he just measured surface temp instead of interior and at a bad time of day.
L230[15:06:26] <Amanda> dequbed: ISTR it was a healthy horse, and a horse corpse during a cold winter day, but IDK if that's true, or even a real memory
L231[15:07:09] <Amanda> So, you know, the two best data points to build an entire temperature system around
L232[15:07:36] <dequbed> I know that the lower bound was a water-salt mix that was the coldest temperature Fahrenheit could produce because he really didn't want negative numbers on his scale.
L233[15:10:02] <Amanda> Also, IDK why it never occured to me that the guy's name was actually Fahrenheit
L234[15:10:14] <Amanda> I guess I never thought of that before
L235[15:13:20] <dequbed> Amanda: Keep in mind that back then it just refered to "Thermometers made by that guy Fahrenheit". Same goes for Celsius, Rankine, Romer, Newton, Delisle, Reaumur. Only two of those survived really and were quickly made by independent parties so the Name->scale relationship was quickly watered down and is now forgotten.
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L237[15:38:47] <Forec​aster> %sip
L238[15:38:47] <MichiBot> You drink a salty diamond potion (New!). Forecaster sees the sky briefly flash solid dark blue then go back to normal.
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L245[16:27:43] <Sap​hire> O:
L246[16:27:47] <Sap​hire> Sangar is tweeting
L247[16:28:21] <Saphire> https://twitter.com/SangarWasTaken/status/1332758114630840321
L248[16:28:22] <MichiBot> Sat Nov 28 18:47:50 UTC 2020 @SangarWasTaken: <https://t.co/2SABHJKbh6&gt;
L249[16:36:22] <Forec​aster> Kristopher38 linked that a couple of days ago too :>
L250[16:38:44] <dequbed> Snagar is back uwu or something to that effect
L251[16:39:16] <Kristo​pher38> by the way
L252[16:39:23] <Kristo​pher38> is that the thing that was supposed to be OC2?
L253[16:39:36] <Forec​aster> no that was payos
L254[16:39:50] <Kristo​pher38> no I mean the original OC2 idea
L255[16:40:04] <Kristo​pher38> that he was talking about on uhh some convention held in minecraft
L256[16:40:32] <Forec​aster> oh, I dunno, I guess it might be
L257[16:41:06] <Sap​hire> OC2?
L258[16:41:14] <Kristo​pher38> iirc it was meant to be something between TIS-3D and OC in terms of... what's the word i'm looking for
L259[16:41:15] <Kristo​pher38> capabilities?
L260[16:41:21] <Forec​aster> CO2
L261[16:42:10] <Elfi> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/760510579881410632/783360928762167296/unknown.png
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L263[16:57:53] <DaCompu​terNerd> a reason we still use fahrenheit is the conservatives who make decisions on education think everyone should learn the same stuff they did, that's why we learn cursive too
L264[17:02:19] <Ar​iri> Frick Fahrenheit, all my homies hate freezing at 32°
L265[17:03:39] <Vexatos> maybe they should try facing south instead
L266[17:49:42] <Z0id​berg> dequbed: you forgiot horseower
L267[17:49:48] <Z0id​berg> horsepower*
L268[17:50:29] <Z0id​berg> you know you can literally stand outside on a hot day and be like, "so nice out... 3 horsepower is where it's at..."
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L270[18:02:41] <M​GR> I only know how to write in cursive, and I am happy with my life
L271[18:05:18] <Amanda> I write in the script of the Old Ones. Anyone who attempts to read my writen word goes insane
L272[18:07:25] <Amanda> %choose 3 or 6
L273[18:07:25] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Somebody once told me to roll with "3"
L274[18:20:55] <dequbed> @Z0idberg I've never heard of hp as temperature scale. It's used in "boiler horsepower" but that's (thermal) power, not temperature.
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L288[19:06:26] * Amanda replaces Inari's doors with bead walls
L289[19:08:31] <Forec​aster> replace the walls with bead doors
L290[19:09:20] <Inari> Amanda: why not rice walls D:
L291[19:09:29] <Forec​aster> or ice walls
L292[19:09:48] <Amanda> Inari: no rice!
L293[19:10:02] <Amanda> not until I figure out how it keeps making you re-learn that cursed language
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L296[19:15:38] <Vexaton> actually cursive is pretty nice to learn
L297[19:16:07] <Vexaton> enforcing strict writing rules is very good to teach primary school children how to not get handwriting that looks like garbage
L298[19:16:33] <Vexaton> I learnt how to write before school, and then I learnt cursive, and then I forgot it again, and likely because of that my handwriting still looks like a four-year-old's
L299[19:17:03] <Izaya> I haven't used a pen in years
L300[19:17:23] <Vexaton> if you mean a fountain pen, ditto
L301[19:17:24] <Vexaton> I prefer ballpoint ink pens these days
L302[19:17:37] <Vexaton> as in ballpoint pens that you can refill with fountain pen ink cartridges
L303[19:17:56] <Inari> just write block letters, way nicer
L304[19:19:33] <Kristo​pher38> just have a good handwriting without learning cursive lmao
L305[19:19:45] <Vexaton> with cursive it's easier to teach how to even hold a pen
L306[19:19:54] <Vexaton> and also to enforce strict writing rules
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L308[19:20:03] <Vexatos> there's a good reason it's being taught :P
L309[19:20:22] <Kristo​pher38> oh jesus I've seen some horrible pen-holding
L310[19:20:28] <Vexatos> noone writes standard cursive, not the teachers either
L311[19:20:40] <Vexatos> it's only there to teach children how to write at all
L312[19:20:41] <Inari> wdym strict writing rules
L313[19:20:47] <Inari> Cursive is way less strict than block letters
L314[19:20:48] <Kristo​pher38> like what the fuck is this https://tinyurl.com/yxqedojo
L315[19:20:54] <Kristo​pher38> how do people manage to write like this
L316[19:21:38] <Vexatos> "bottom chopstick grip"
L317[19:21:54] <Inari> The reason it's taught is that it can be quicker to write. Plus many people use it, so you kinda need to know how to read it
L318[19:22:14] <Vexatos> that too
L319[19:22:42] <Vexatos> my handwriting is horrible and ugly because again it looks like a four-year-old's but I can write super fast with it
L320[19:23:09] <Vexatos> I was one of only two people who managed to keep up with the organic chemistry professor :P
L321[19:23:28] <Amanda> Vexatos: I had a teacher say they had to compare my answer sheet letter-by-letter with their teacher answer sheet, because my handwriting is that bad. :P
L322[19:23:46] <Vexatos> my handwriting is very easy to read
L323[19:23:51] <Vexatos> it's just really ugly
L324[19:23:52] <Amanda> Like I said, my handwriting is in the runes of the Old Ones
L325[19:24:07] <Inari> I mean
L326[19:24:13] <Inari> If you think it's so ugly, why not improve it
L327[19:24:23] <Vexatos> at this point there's no point i trying :P
L328[19:24:44] <Vexatos> that's like trying to relearn to eat with the fork in your left hand after you spent all your life eating with it in the right hand
L329[19:24:45] <Amanda> My hand cramps if I force myself to write legibly.
L330[19:25:10] <Inari> Maybe you're holding it wrong
L331[19:25:26] <Amanda> Maybe, but it's not like it matters anymore. Everything's going digital. :P
L332[19:25:46] <Vexatos> remember: use two pens and hold them like chopsticks. Only use the top one to write, the steady one is for drawing the lines underneath the text
L333[19:25:47] <Vexatos> :^)
L334[19:32:07] <dequbed> Vexatos with the absolut hottakes on paedagogic issues again ^^
L335[19:33:27] <Saphire> o..o?
L336[19:34:08] <Saphire> Amanda: that sounds like you are tensing it hard c.c
L337[19:39:54] <Michiyo> I have nerve damage in both wrists, my handwriting is shit, and it hurts to actually do so.
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L339[20:08:14] <Ar​iri> My hand cramps if I try to write with my fingers extended (like how a pencil is supposed to be held) since mine are too long to fit on the right half of the page
L340[20:10:44] <Ar​iri> Has anyone done ML work in JS or Python? Is it worth doing one over the other?
L341[20:11:22] <dequbed> My bestie did ML in Python and it was comparably non-painful. For ML that is.
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L343[20:43:25] <Izaya> Soooooo
L344[20:43:31] <Izaya> Looks like I'm switching away from XFCE
L345[20:43:37] <Izaya> https://linuxreviews.org/Xfce_Classic_Brings_An_Alternative_To_Those_Who_Do_Not_Want_Xfce_To_Become_GNOME_Light
L346[20:49:25] <ThePi​Guy24> oh look, twats in the comments https://tinyurl.com/y4uo4po9
L347[20:52:15] <Izaya> I wonder how LXQt is nowadays
L348[20:52:37] <ThePi​Guy24> well it works...
L349[20:53:03] <ThePi​Guy24> which is honestly more than can be said about some WMs
L350[20:53:30] <Izaya> good a time as any to switch to arcan maybe
L351[20:53:35] <Izaya> then I could write my own DE
L352[20:54:27] <ThePi​Guy24> also i meand DE not WM
L353[20:54:42] <ThePi​Guy24> *meant
L354[21:02:06] <Izaya> speaking of gtk3-mushrooms
L355[21:02:16] <Izaya> currently replacing it with gtk3-classic which is an apparently maintained fork
L356[21:02:22] <Izaya> neat
L357[21:02:50] <Izaya> naturally because it uses the stupid gtk3 build system, it's only using one core even though I told make to use 9
L358[21:05:23] <CompanionCube> Izaya: god one of those comments is just such a trashfire
L359[21:06:43] <CompanionCube> the inconsistency of the stated beliefs is just sad though :(
L360[21:07:43] <Izaya> Ah, the schizoposter?
L361[21:08:36] <CompanionCube> looks more like garden-variety current genconspiracy theorist to me
L362[21:10:51] <Izaya> :| so I have my middle (landscape) display top-aligned
L363[21:11:35] <Izaya> it's not as tall as my portrait displays are, and I have my laptop below the middle one
L364[21:11:51] <Izaya> because it isn't at the edge of the rectangle I can't easily use x2x to interact with my laptop :|
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L368[21:47:04] <Ocawes​ome101> Izaya: i've been considering trying to write a DE using arcan
L369[21:50:43] <Izaya> Maybe we should collaborate
L370[21:57:23] <Izaya> ayy, I got Horizon: Zero Dawn running
L371[21:57:45] <Izaya> ... like shit, but running
L372[21:58:42] <Ar​iri> Good game
L373[21:58:51] <Izaya> it's still in the video cutscene
L374[21:59:03] <Izaya> but the game IS running under Proton-5.21-GE-1
L375[21:59:20] <Izaya> love me a good freeze in a video
L376[21:59:43] <CompanionCube> %inv add 25-man orgy
L377[21:59:43] * MichiBot summons '25-man orgy' and adds to her inventory. This seems very sturdy.
L378[21:59:50] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L379[21:59:50] <MichiBot> Hooray! Compan​ionCube! You beat Squi​dDev's previous record of 1 hour, 6 minutes and 59 seconds (By 11 hours, 20 minutes and 46 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L380[21:59:51] <MichiBot> CompanionCube's new record is 12 hours, 27 minutes and 46 seconds! CompanionCube also gained 0.0227 (0.01135 x 2) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.
L381[21:59:59] <CompanionCube> aw yiss
L382[22:00:06] <ThePi​Guy24> isnt 25 a few too many?
L383[22:00:21] <Izaya> also Monster Hunter World runs better with 5.21
L384[22:00:24] <Izaya> so, neat
L385[22:00:43] <CompanionCube> ThePiGuy24: not for a hungarian anti-gay politician, apparently...
L386[22:01:08] <Izaya> can't tell if this is pre-rendered or being rendered by the engine
L387[22:01:16] <Izaya> but I do know it's not good
L388[22:06:57] <CompanionCube> https://www.theguardian.com/media/2020/dec/01/rupert-murdochs-news-uk-tv-channel-given-approval-to-launch oh noes
L389[22:08:42] <Izaya> nooooo you can't convert our graphics API calls to vulkan and have it run better noooo
L390[22:08:45] <Izaya> haha vkd3d go brr
L391[22:09:16] <ThePi​Guy24> so long legacy graphics apis!
L392[22:09:31] <Amanda> Izaya: ofc you can't! Not when they've got GPU manufacturers bribed to make their windows drivers have minimal vulkan effort!
L393[22:09:41] <Amanda> s/effort/poorly/
L394[22:09:41] <MichiBot> <Amanda> Izaya: ofc you can't! Not when they've got GPU manufacturers bribed to make their windows drivers have minimal vulkan poorly!
L395[22:09:58] <Amanda> s/poorly/effort put in
L396[22:09:58] <MichiBot> <Amanda> Izaya: ofc you can't! Not when they've got GPU manufacturers bribed to make their windows drivers have minimal vulkan effort put in!
L397[22:10:19] <Amanda> I derp
L398[22:10:24] <Izaya> Amanda: saw a project to port amdgpu to windows a bit ago
L399[22:10:50] <Izaya> For better performance
L400[22:11:10] <Izaya> huh
L401[22:11:16] <Izaya> weechat crashes when I get pinged
L402[22:12:31] <ThePi​Guy24> Izaya
L403[22:13:36] <Izaya> %p
L404[22:13:36] <CompanionCube> Izaya: so, do you think the murdoch or non-murdoch conservative wankers will succeed?
L405[22:13:37] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Iz​aya 0.95s
L406[22:13:49] <CompanionCube> my bet's on murdoch winning.
L407[22:13:54] <Izaya> CompanionCube: mutually assured destruction in the end
L408[22:14:02] <CompanionCube> oh?
L409[22:14:05] <Izaya> alas, the end is far away
L410[22:14:23] <ThePi​Guy24> can we just manually ensure their destruction already :woke:
L411[22:14:25] <CompanionCube> (secondary opinio: which one will get dinged by OFCOM first if they have a spine.)
L412[22:18:17] <Izaya> https://pars.ee/system/media_attachments/files/105/307/238/050/079/497/original/d1bd4c61af05ff2d.jpg
L413[22:20:46] <ThePi​Guy24> "Hey can I copy your homework?"
L414[22:20:46] <ThePi​Guy24> "Yeah just dont make it look too obvious"
L415[22:21:02] <SquidDev> "The focus of the output [...] which sources said until recently had the working title of Gotcha!" Of course it was. Every time you think they couldn't be more odious.
L416[22:35:16] <Ar​iri> Izaya: https://www.reddit.com/r/spaceengineers/comments/k4ui19/you_think_god_stays_hidden_up_there_because_he_is/
L417[22:37:38] <Izaya> Impressive.
L418[22:37:43] <Izaya> I like the targeting lasers.
L419[22:38:27] <Izaya> in other news, I have determined that if I want a window on all desktops I need to set it to be on desktop 4294967295
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