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L10[01:13:10] <Amanda> Format def scripts?
What cursed abomination have you made, AC?
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<bad at
vijya> Amanda: lua to make archive format defs
<bad at
vijya> Amanda: lua to make archive format defsL14[02:21:50] <Amanda> as in, lua scripts
that interact with a runtime to deserialise stuff, or as in you're
using lua as a json-alike?
L15[02:23:15] <Amanda> %choose lr or br or
neither
L16[02:23:15] <MichiBot> Amanda: I have a
pamphlet that says never to engage in "lr", so you should
definitely do it!
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L19[03:20:51] <FLORANA>
so curious will there ever be other CPU types?
<FLORANA>
so curious will there ever be other CPU types?L20[03:37:11] <CompanionCube> not really
unles you use addons
L21[03:38:06] <bad at
vijya> i mean i'm making an ARM arch
<bad at
vijya> i mean i'm making an ARM archL22[03:38:07] <bad at
vijya> slowly
<bad at
vijya> slowlyL23[03:43:36] <!Teajay>
guys how do i install mine OS?
<!Teajay>
guys how do i install mine OS?L24[03:47:23] <Forecaster> %tonk
<Forecaster> %tonkL25[03:47:23] <MichiBot> I'm sorry
Forecaster, you were not able to beat Forecaster's record of 7
hours, 34 minutes and 15 seconds this time. 7 hours, 15 minutes and
33 seconds were wasted! Missed by 18 minutes and 42 seconds!
L26[03:53:42] <Furious The
Crusader> can the linked card return distance between the paired
devices
<Furious The
Crusader> can the linked card return distance between the paired
devicesL27[04:14:14] <Amanda> No
L28[04:14:39] <Amanda> Distance is always
zero in the event
L29[04:19:19] <Furious The
Crusader> what about the wireless card
<Furious The
Crusader> what about the wireless cardL30[04:23:39] <Furious The
Crusader> it says "Wireless packets can not be lost but a
may be out of range" i want to be able to have unlimited
distance is this not possible?
<Furious The
Crusader> it says "Wireless packets can not be lost but a
may be out of range" i want to be able to have unlimited
distance is this not possible?L31[04:24:24] <FLORANA> i
would belive if the chunks are loaded and you had enough power it
would reach
<FLORANA> i
would belive if the chunks are loaded and you had enough power it
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L33[05:00:04] <FLORANA>
how does relays work when trying to send a wireless signal?
<FLORANA>
how does relays work when trying to send a wireless signal?L34[05:20:07] ⇨
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L37[05:35:33] <Amanda> They have a method
that will let you set the broadcast range, iirc
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L39[05:49:01] <Amanda> %remindme 6h15m dig
more into what's got vaapi angry?
L40[05:49:01] <MichiBot> I'll remind you
about "dig more into what's got vaapi angry?" at
11/24/2020 12:04:01 PM
L41[05:51:42] <Amanda> %remindme 6h9m make
the bed time task lock the screen
L42[05:51:42] <MichiBot> I'll remind you
about "make the bed time task lock the screen" at
11/24/2020 12:00:42 PM
L43[05:51:49] <Amanda> Right, night
nerds
L44[05:52:05] *
Amanda curls up around Elfi, zzzmews
L45[05:59:03] <CompanionCube> %drink
L46[05:59:03] <MichiBot> You drink a
viscous tuna potion (New!). CompanionCube is now Borg until someone
baps them.
L47[05:59:14] <CompanionCube> YOU WILL BE
ASSIMILIATED
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L49[06:23:43] <Forecaster> %bap CompanionCube
<Forecaster> %bap CompanionCubeL50[06:23:43] <MichiBot> Forecaster baps
CompanionCube with the Shiny genuine lümp! (10%)!
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L52[06:43:35] <Ariri>
Forecaster: Resistance is futile.
<Ariri>
Forecaster: Resistance is futile.L53[06:45:39] <Forecaster> baps conquer all
<Forecaster> baps conquer allL54[06:51:36] <Ariri> Baps will be added to
the collective.
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L62[11:10:42] <Starbble>
Is a robot/drone with a chunkloader upgrade able to move over a
chunk boundary with no issues?
<Starbble>
Is a robot/drone with a chunkloader upgrade able to move over a
chunk boundary with no issues?L63[11:19:38] <Forecaster> once it's in the new unloaded
chunks the forge chunkloading system should load it at the next
available opportunity, so yes
<Forecaster> once it's in the new unloaded
chunks the forge chunkloading system should load it at the next
available opportunity, so yesL64[11:19:48] <Forecaster> but it's minecraft, so not
guaranteed
<Forecaster> but it's minecraft, so not
guaranteedL65[11:20:45] <Starbble>
Hmm okay, sounds promising. I'll just have to test it with my use
case to see how it goes then. Thanks :)
<Starbble>
Hmm okay, sounds promising. I'll just have to test it with my use
case to see how it goes then. Thanks :)L66[11:21:02] <Forecaster> once it's in the new unloaded
chunk the forge chunkloading system should load it at the next
available opportunity, so yes [Edited]
<Forecaster> once it's in the new unloaded
chunk the forge chunkloading system should load it at the next
available opportunity, so yes [Edited]L67[11:21:42] <Forecaster> actually it'd probably have
to load the chunk to move into it, which the chunkloader should be
aware of
<Forecaster> actually it'd probably have
to load the chunk to move into it, which the chunkloader should be
aware ofL68[11:22:51] <Starbble>
That's what I'm hoping is the case
<Starbble>
That's what I'm hoping is the caseL69[11:23:08] <SnailDOS>
Would OC work with RLcraft?
<SnailDOS>
Would OC work with RLcraft?L70[11:23:10] <SnailDOS>
xD
<SnailDOS>
xDL71[11:23:38] <SnailDOS>
My friends want to play RLcraft and I want... my own pick.
<SnailDOS>
My friends want to play RLcraft and I want... my own pick.L72[11:24:21] <Forecaster> just craft your own pickaxe,
jeez
<Forecaster> just craft your own pickaxe,
jeezL73[11:24:45] <Corded> * <SnailDOS>
...
L74[11:25:06] <Corded> * <SnailDOS>
pick of mod
L75[11:25:33] <Forecaster> there are lots of pickaxe
mods
<Forecaster> there are lots of pickaxe
modsL76[11:25:45] <Furious The
Crusader> XD
<Furious The
Crusader> XDL77[11:26:09] <Corded> * <SnailDOS>
computer in rlcraft
L78[11:26:22] <SnailDOS>
_computer in rlcraft_ ~~dont even mention some random computer mod
i swear~~ [Edited]
<SnailDOS>
_computer in rlcraft_ ~~dont even mention some random computer mod
i swear~~ [Edited]L79[11:26:35] <Forecaster> you can craft computers in
real life! :D
<Forecaster> you can craft computers in
real life! :DL80[11:26:41] <Starbble>
RLCraft is 1.12.2 so you should just be able to slap it in there
I'd assume
<Starbble>
RLCraft is 1.12.2 so you should just be able to slap it in there
I'd assumeL81[11:26:46] <Forecaster> it's pretty hard though,
unless you buy pre-made parts
<Forecaster> it's pretty hard though,
unless you buy pre-made partsL82[11:26:49] <SnailDOS>
would crafting go all funny?
<SnailDOS>
would crafting go all funny?L83[11:26:57] <SnailDOS>
I already done that
<SnailDOS>
I already done thatL84[12:00:27] <Heximate>
If you already have the pack, you could just pop it in and test it
out
<Heximate>
If you already have the pack, you could just pop it in and test it
outL85[12:00:40] <Heximate>
see how it goes, ya know? :anneThink:
<Heximate>
see how it goes, ya know? :anneThink:L86[12:00:43] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER:
make the bed time task lock the screen
L87[12:04:02] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER:
dig more into what's got vaapi angry?
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L89[12:27:40] <Izaya> Amanda: man, I hadn't
watched episode 8 yet, this is really hamfisted
L90[12:27:45] <Izaya> stay classy,
japan
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L95[12:58:18] <Amanda> Izaya: I hadn't
watched it yet when I brought it up the other day, but
yeah...
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L99[13:41:50] <Forecaster> %tonkout
<Forecaster> %tonkoutL100[13:41:50] <MichiBot> Kapow!
Forecaster! You beat your own previous record of 7 hours, 34
minutes and 15 seconds (By 2 hours, 20 minutes and 11 seconds)! I
hope you're happy!
L101[13:41:51] <MichiBot> Forecaster has
tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.009 tonk points!
plus 0.016 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score:
1.56316097, Position #2 Need 0.12345894 more points to pass
CompanionCube!
L102[13:42:07] <Forecaster> 0.12345
<Forecaster> 0.12345L103[13:42:12] <Forecaster> nice
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L106[14:14:21] <Forecaster> ow...
<Forecaster> ow...L107[14:14:33] <Forecaster> I just got wedged between two
spinning rocks...
<Forecaster> I just got wedged between two
spinning rocks...L108[14:23:59]
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L113[15:50:47] <Forecaster> %tonk
<Forecaster> %tonkL114[15:50:47] <MichiBot> Wild!
Forecaster! You beat your own previous record of <0 (By 2
hours, 8 minutes and 56 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L115[15:50:48] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new
record is 2 hours, 8 minutes and 56 seconds! No points gained for
stealing from yourself. (Lost out on 0.00215)
L116[16:10:38] <dequbed> Izaya: Hunters
with Shotguns are <3
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L119[18:27:51] <Michiyo>
Enjoy some NSFW Content
<Michiyo>
Enjoy some NSFW ContentL120[18:29:01] <Vexatos> I cleaned the
insides of my PC today
L121[18:38:51] <Izaya> dequbed: I slapped
my Rimworld saves into my nextcloud so I could sync them between
laptop and desktop easily and now it's eaten like 1.3GB from just
saves
L122[19:16:07] <dequbed> Izaya: only
1.3GB? :P
L123[19:16:50] <Izaya> laptop has a 60GB
SSD
L124[19:16:53] <Izaya> this could prove to
be a problem
L125[19:18:29] <dequbed> Izaya: If you
don't mind losing history there are some GC tools that can slim
down saves. It just so happens that keeping log of everything that
ever happened on your planet so as to keep a consistent story and
have a near infinite pool of things that happened to make art of
costs some noteworthy amount of storage.
L126[19:20:44] <Izaya> yeah I have
runtimegc installed
L127[19:20:53] <Izaya> just btrfs
defragmented the dir, it's 200MB now
L128[19:21:05] <Izaya> guess I'll set up a
cronjob to do that every 24 hours until I stop playing
L129[19:40:04] <dequbed> Izaya: Also have
you played the Necro DLC yet?
L130[19:41:02] <Izaya> Oh, Stellaris? No.
Waiting till it goes on sale.
L131[19:46:04] <dequbed> Fair
L132[20:35:34] <Furious The
Crusader> how do you set the broadcast range of a relay?
<Furious The
Crusader> how do you set the broadcast range of a relay?L133[20:36:16] <Forecaster> it has a component I
think
<Forecaster> it has a component I
thinkL134[20:36:18] <Izaya> should show up as a
component for any directly connected computers IIRC
L136[20:49:11] <Izaya> looks about
right
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L140[20:57:04] <Forecaster> I mean, it says right
there
<Forecaster> I mean, it says right
thereL141[21:28:48] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L142[21:28:48] <MichiBot> Wild!
CompanionCube! You beat Forecaster's previous record of 2 hours,
8 minutes and 56 seconds (By 3 hours, 29 minutes and 5 seconds)! I
hope you're happy!
L143[21:28:49] <MichiBot> CompanionCube's
new record is 5 hours, 38 minutes and 1 second! CompanionCube also
gained 0.01044 (0.00348 x 3) tonk points for stealing the tonk.
Position #1.
L144[21:44:31] <Izaya> https://fedi.absturztau.be/media/c54e28939f9d389963d36c25af73f4c9764c6dec1e0c42d2097b137ea8b078de.png
L145[21:46:51] <ThePiGuy24> 3/10 too many colours
<ThePiGuy24> 3/10 too many coloursL146[21:47:04] <Ocawesome101> wind0ws
<Ocawesome101> wind0wsL147[21:47:10] <Ocawesome101> 3.1?
<Ocawesome101> 3.1?L148[21:47:13] <ThePiGuy24> gotta be 8bit colour for
authenticity
<ThePiGuy24> gotta be 8bit colour for
authenticityL149[21:47:37] <ThePiGuy24> 4 bit if you wanna be real
authentic
<ThePiGuy24> 4 bit if you wanna be real
authenticL150[21:48:49] <dequbed> Has somebody here
experience with Android on Raspberry Pi and/or Odroid?
L151[22:08:37] <Furious The
Crusader> how do you have 4 separate relays ping a computer? so
basically when you do a broadcast the computer receives 4 messages
from the 4 relays
<Furious The
Crusader> how do you have 4 separate relays ping a computer? so
basically when you do a broadcast the computer receives 4 messages
from the 4 relaysL153[22:10:45] <Forecaster> @Furious The Crusader a
network card won't receive a broadcast it sent
<Forecaster> @Furious The Crusader a
network card won't receive a broadcast it sentL154[22:11:08] <Furious The
Crusader> no no no the computer is separate from the
relays
<Furious The
Crusader> no no no the computer is separate from the
relaysL155[22:11:54] <Forecaster> Relays just repeat the
broadcast
<Forecaster> Relays just repeat the
broadcastL156[22:12:15] <Forecaster> The computer that sent it
can't receive it
<Forecaster> The computer that sent it
can't receive itL157[22:12:29] <Furious The
Crusader> the computer that sent it is not the one receiving
it
<Furious The
Crusader> the computer that sent it is not the one receiving
itL158[22:13:05] <FLORANA> i
understand i think the signal comes out and goes back into another
one and feeds a loop right?
<FLORANA> i
understand i think the signal comes out and goes back into another
one and feeds a loop right?L159[22:13:42] <Amanda> Relays aren't
meant for that kind of logic. They're dumb packet repeaters, with
no changing of what they're transferring
L160[22:14:08] <Amanda> You can't tell
what relay a packet came from
L161[22:14:23] <FLORANA>
that doesn't matter tho
<FLORANA>
that doesn't matter thoL162[22:14:26] <FLORANA>
we just need distance
<FLORANA>
we just need distanceL163[22:14:32] <FLORANA>
we just need different distances [Edited]
<FLORANA>
we just need different distances [Edited]L164[22:14:49] <Amanda> Distance is line
of sight
L165[22:14:58] <Amanda> Rather
L166[22:15:07] <Amanda> As the crow
flies
L167[22:15:26] <Furious The
Crusader> example Computer A is connected to 4 relays ... and
broadcasts a message Computer B is the one receiving the
broadcast.. how does Computer B recieve 4 pings from the 4
relays
<Furious The
Crusader> example Computer A is connected to 4 relays ... and
broadcasts a message Computer B is the one receiving the
broadcast.. how does Computer B recieve 4 pings from the 4
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L169[22:16:11] <Forecaster> It's it receiving any
messages now?
<Forecaster> It's it receiving any
messages now?L170[22:16:21] <Forecaster> Is it receiving any messages
now? [Edited]
<Forecaster> Is it receiving any messages
now? [Edited]L171[22:16:26] <FLORANA>
it recived 3/4 iirc
<FLORANA>
it recived 3/4 iircL172[22:16:31] <Furious The
Crusader> 3/4 of the message went through
<Furious The
Crusader> 3/4 of the message went throughL173[22:16:56] <FLORANA>
all of them are in the 400 block radius
<FLORANA>
all of them are in the 400 block radiusL174[22:17:01] <FLORANA>
all of them are in the 400 block radius at min [Edited]
<FLORANA>
all of them are in the 400 block radius at min [Edited]L175[22:17:23] <FLORANA>
let me grab images
<FLORANA>
let me grab imagesL176[22:18:04]
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L178[22:19:08] <FLORANA>
the outer relays are wireless, the inner ones are to block
looping
<FLORANA>
the outer relays are wireless, the inner ones are to block
loopingL179[22:19:56] <Amanda> Not sure if I
missed anything while updating my server but -- you can't. There's
no distinguishing from a packet from one relay than another,
AIUI
L180[22:20:23] <Furious The
Crusader> we're not asking that
<Furious The
Crusader> we're not asking thatL181[22:21:42] <Amanda> Are you asking WHY
it's duplicating then?
L182[22:21:59] <Amanda> In that case, you
have a network loop.
L183[22:22:20] <Amanda> router A talks to
Router B which talks to router C which talks to router A
L184[22:22:37] <Furious The
Crusader> we need 4 of the same message
<Furious The
Crusader> we need 4 of the same messageL185[22:22:49] <FLORANA>
at different cords
<FLORANA>
at different cordsL186[22:23:25] <FLORANA>
it's for locating cords without manual input
<FLORANA>
it's for locating cords without manual inputL187[22:33:44] ⇦
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L188[22:34:06] <ThePiGuy24> why do you need 4 of the same
message?
<ThePiGuy24> why do you need 4 of the same
message?L189[22:34:22] <ThePiGuy24> you can do that with
different mesages
<ThePiGuy24> you can do that with
different mesagesL190[22:34:23] <FLORANA>
to isolate cordnets
<FLORANA>
to isolate cordnetsL191[22:35:12] <FLORANA> 4
different relays send the same message and that allows us to get
the data to figure out where we are
<FLORANA> 4
different relays send the same message and that allows us to get
the data to figure out where we areL192[22:35:36] <ThePiGuy24> just have 4 different
computers sending the message
<ThePiGuy24> just have 4 different
computers sending the messageL193[22:36:10] <FLORANA>
why tho, wouldn't that just be a waste of resources?
<FLORANA>
why tho, wouldn't that just be a waste of resources?L194[22:36:35] <ThePiGuy24> only minorly
<ThePiGuy24> only minorlyL195[22:36:45] <ThePiGuy24> t2 computers are pretty
cheap
<ThePiGuy24> t2 computers are pretty
cheapL196[22:38:48] <FLORANA>
yah but thats dumb tho... having wired antennas would be more
efficent :|
<FLORANA>
yah but thats dumb tho... having wired antennas would be more
efficent :|L197[22:39:09] <Amanda> I'm still 99% sure
that the distatce is calculated from sending's coordinates to the
ending's coordinates, disregarding any packets in the middle, but I
can't be assed to continue code splunking to verify that
L198[22:39:24] <Amanda> s/packets in
the/routers in the/
L199[22:39:24] <MichiBot> <Amanda>
I'm still 99% sure that the distatce is calculated from sending's
coordinates to the ending's coordinates, disregarding any routers
in the middle, but I can't be assed to continue code splunking to
verify that
L200[22:40:24] <FLORANA>
yah the distance is calculated but we need to turn that into
relitive XYZ cords
<FLORANA>
yah the distance is calculated but we need to turn that into
relitive XYZ cordsL201[22:41:26] <Amanda> You can't with
just one sender and one receiver
L202[22:41:31] <Amanda> Math doesn't work
that way
L203[22:41:45] <FLORANA>
thats why theres 4
<FLORANA>
thats why theres 4L204[22:41:50] *
Amanda screams
L205[22:41:53] <Amanda> No, there's
not!
L206[22:41:56] <Heximate>
I'm so confused on what you all are trying to do. Just signal
triangulation from wireless points? Is this for a drone, or like
simulated war driving or some shiznit?
<Heximate>
I'm so confused on what you all are trying to do. Just signal
triangulation from wireless points? Is this for a drone, or like
simulated war driving or some shiznit?L208[22:42:28] <Amanda> @Heximate they're
severly misunderstanding how the networking works in OC, and trying
to gaslight me into thinking I'mwrong.
L209[22:42:40] <FLORANA>
trying to get relitive cords fom this one computer
<FLORANA>
trying to get relitive cords fom this one computerL210[22:42:45] <ThePiGuy24> the sender is the network
card that sends the original packet, in this case, that creative
computer in the middle
<ThePiGuy24> the sender is the network
card that sends the original packet, in this case, that creative
computer in the middleL211[22:43:05] <Heximate>
Fair, Amanda
<Heximate>
Fair, AmandaL212[22:43:11] *
Amanda wanders off before she comits a murder
L213[22:45:49] <FLORANA>
yah the creative computer broadcasts to the 4 outer relays that are
wireless and the 1 wireless computer at the ground level waiting to
receive
<FLORANA>
yah the creative computer broadcasts to the 4 outer relays that are
wireless and the 1 wireless computer at the ground level waiting to
receiveL214[22:46:04] <FLORANA>
yah the creative computer broadcasts to the 4 outer relays that are
wireless and theres a wireless computer at the ground level waiting
to receive [Edited]
<FLORANA>
yah the creative computer broadcasts to the 4 outer relays that are
wireless and theres a wireless computer at the ground level waiting
to receive [Edited]L215[22:46:11] <Furious The
Crusader> its basically a satellite , it triangulates the XYZ
coords of any computer
<Furious The
Crusader> its basically a satellite , it triangulates the XYZ
coords of any computerL216[22:46:50] <Furious The
Crusader> via distance between the computer and the relays
<Furious The
Crusader> via distance between the computer and the relaysL217[22:53:28] <Bob>
wouldnt that cause a packet loop 🤔
<Bob>
wouldnt that cause a packet loop 🤔L218[22:55:49] <FLORANA>
the package loop isn't a probblem enymore
<FLORANA>
the package loop isn't a probblem enymoreL219[22:56:03] <FLORANA>
the middle 2 relays fixed it
<FLORANA>
the middle 2 relays fixed itL220[22:56:13] <FLORANA>
the middle 2 relays fixed it funny enough [Edited]
<FLORANA>
the middle 2 relays fixed it funny enough [Edited]L221[23:00:09] <Ariri>
...They aren’t the video game idea of relays, like dishes that
figure out where the data has come from or anything. They literally
just send it again to everywhere except they came from,
afaik.
<Ariri>
...They aren’t the video game idea of relays, like dishes that
figure out where the data has come from or anything. They literally
just send it again to everywhere except they came from,
afaik.L222[23:00:20] <Ariri>
There’s no xyz anything
<Ariri>
There’s no xyz anythingL223[23:00:28] <Ariri>
Just what goes in comes out
<Ariri>
Just what goes in comes outL224[23:00:51] <Heximate>
been a while since I screwed around with OC and its networking, but
it kind of goes back to what Amanda said. What does it matter if
you're using 4 relays if you can't tell which relay it's coming
from. Also... additionally, you would need to be able to read the
strength/distance in some meaningful way if you could ID which
relay packets were bouncing off of. Lastly, triangulation is
usually done one of two ways, with points within a
<Heximate>
been a while since I screwed around with OC and its networking, but
it kind of goes back to what Amanda said. What does it matter if
you're using 4 relays if you can't tell which relay it's coming
from. Also... additionally, you would need to be able to read the
strength/distance in some meaningful way if you could ID which
relay packets were bouncing off of. Lastly, triangulation is
usually done one of two ways, with points within aL225[23:00:51] <Heximate>
geographically spread plane, using those two factors to literally
make a triangle and pinpoint the signal, or secondly using motion
of one listening station to kind of guess and on the fly build up a
direction that the particular signal is coming from
<Heximate>
geographically spread plane, using those two factors to literally
make a triangle and pinpoint the signal, or secondly using motion
of one listening station to kind of guess and on the fly build up a
direction that the particular signal is coming fromL226[23:01:10] <Heximate>
but this again implies you can read the strength of a singal that
has been ID'd, and I don't remember that OC can do that
necessarily?
<Heximate>
but this again implies you can read the strength of a singal that
has been ID'd, and I don't remember that OC can do that
necessarily?L227[23:01:35] <MGR>
There's a distance parameter in modem messages
<MGR>
There's a distance parameter in modem messagesL228[23:01:44] <Heximate>
been a while since I screwed around with OC and its networking, but
it kind of goes back to what Amanda said. What does it matter if
you're using 4 relays if you can't tell which relay it's coming
from. Also... additionally, you would need to be able to read the
strength/distance in some meaningful way if you could ID which
relay packets were bouncing off of. Lastly, triangulation is
usually done one of two ways, with distant points with
<Heximate>
been a while since I screwed around with OC and its networking, but
it kind of goes back to what Amanda said. What does it matter if
you're using 4 relays if you can't tell which relay it's coming
from. Also... additionally, you would need to be able to read the
strength/distance in some meaningful way if you could ID which
relay packets were bouncing off of. Lastly, triangulation is
usually done one of two ways, with distant points withL229[23:01:45] <Heximate>
geographically spread plane, using those two factors to literally
make a triangle and pinpoint the signal, or secondly using motion
of one listening station to kind of guess and on the fly build up a
direction that the particular signal is coming from [Edited]
<Heximate>
geographically spread plane, using those two factors to literally
make a triangle and pinpoint the signal, or secondly using motion
of one listening station to kind of guess and on the fly build up a
direction that the particular signal is coming from [Edited]L230[23:01:57]
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L231[23:02:28] <Heximate>
It will pick up how far the message was sent from whichever source
it is receiving the broadcast from? Distance wise, or at least a
close enough approximation?
<Heximate>
It will pick up how far the message was sent from whichever source
it is receiving the broadcast from? Distance wise, or at least a
close enough approximation?L232[23:02:30] <Heximate>
If so, that's good
<Heximate>
If so, that's goodL233[23:02:34] <MGR>
Yes
<MGR>
YesL234[23:03:13] <FLORANA>
from those distances we can turn them into relitive cords
<FLORANA>
from those distances we can turn them into relitive cordsL235[23:04:17] <Heximate>
So that still leaves the second problem, ID'ing the relay which
passed along a packet, which it seems there's no solution for
outside of having multiple hosts to tag it?
<Heximate>
So that still leaves the second problem, ID'ing the relay which
passed along a packet, which it seems there's no solution for
outside of having multiple hosts to tag it?L236[23:04:34] <FLORANA>
also relays don't work with APUs which is dumb, it's still a
CPU
<FLORANA>
also relays don't work with APUs which is dumb, it's still a
CPUL237[23:04:45] <MGR>
Relays should work with APUs
<MGR>
Relays should work with APUsL238[23:04:54] <MGR> I'm
not aware of why they'd be any different
<MGR> I'm
not aware of why they'd be any differentL239[23:05:07] <FLORANA>
it didn't work when i tried it
<FLORANA>
it didn't work when i tried itL240[23:05:15] <MGR>
Please define "didn't work"
<MGR>
Please define "didn't work"L241[23:05:57] <Heximate>
been a while since I screwed around with OC and its networking, but
it kind of goes back to what Amanda said. What does it matter if
you're using 4 relays if you can't tell which relay it's coming
from. Also... additionally, you would need to be able to read the
strength/distance in some meaningful way if you could ID which
relay packets were bouncing off of. Lastly, triangulation is
usually done one of two ways, with distant points with
<Heximate>
been a while since I screwed around with OC and its networking, but
it kind of goes back to what Amanda said. What does it matter if
you're using 4 relays if you can't tell which relay it's coming
from. Also... additionally, you would need to be able to read the
strength/distance in some meaningful way if you could ID which
relay packets were bouncing off of. Lastly, triangulation is
usually done one of two ways, with distant points withL242[23:05:57] <Heximate>
geographically spread plane, using those two factors to literally
make a triangle and pinpoint the signal, or secondly using motion
of one listening station to kind of guess and on the fly build up a
directional vector that the particular signal is coming from
[Edited]
<Heximate>
geographically spread plane, using those two factors to literally
make a triangle and pinpoint the signal, or secondly using motion
of one listening station to kind of guess and on the fly build up a
directional vector that the particular signal is coming from
[Edited]L243[23:06:06] <FLORANA> i
put a APU in a relay and it didn't send with the wireless
network
<FLORANA> i
put a APU in a relay and it didn't send with the wireless
networkL244[23:06:14] <MGR>
Hm
<MGR>
HmL245[23:06:24] <MGR> I'll
have to test the next time I play MC
<MGR> I'll
have to test the next time I play MCL246[23:07:18] <Heximate>
Also, as a random question. Does the distance parameter get
retained if a relay catches it and then sends it wired to the
PC?
<Heximate>
Also, as a random question. Does the distance parameter get
retained if a relay catches it and then sends it wired to the
PC?L247[23:07:49] <Heximate>
Sorry, been ages since I've messed with OC. Going to be here again
soon though once I build a modpack for the family in a few weeks
after this class in school is over. Hence why I'm back in the
Discord
<Heximate>
Sorry, been ages since I've messed with OC. Going to be here again
soon though once I build a modpack for the family in a few weeks
after this class in school is over. Hence why I'm back in the
DiscordL248[23:08:12] <Heximate>
doing so here again soon*
<Heximate>
doing so here again soon*L249[23:09:57] <Amanda> @heximate I gave
up trying to find it in the code, but iirc the distance is
literally the distance between the two blocks that originally sent,
and receiced the packet
L250[23:10:17] <Heximate>
ah interesting
<Heximate>
ah interestingL251[23:10:23] <MGR> But
is the block that received it the computer, or the relay?
<MGR> But
is the block that received it the computer, or the relay?L252[23:10:31] <Amanda> Computer
L253[23:10:37] <MGR> Thank
you
<MGR> Thank
youL254[23:11:08] <Amanda> Relays are just
connection nodes in the network stack. Thy don't actually
rebroadcast what they're sent
L255[23:11:45] <Amanda> Because that's a
waste of tick time when the end result is the same in most
casss
L256[23:12:05] <Heximate>
ah
<Heximate>
ahL257[23:28:43] ⇦
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