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L3[00:39:20] <Ariri> Inari is watamelon
L4[00:39:38] <Amanda> soon she'll be whatafoxburger
L5[00:40:05] <Amanda> %catfacts
L6[00:40:06] <MichiBot> I had an exception... ow. Here's the stacktrace: https://paste.pc-logix.com/yuvequtecu
L7[00:40:09] <Ariri> FuBuKi - Fox Burger King
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L11[02:32:41] <MichiBot> Izaya REMINDER: test that PR
L12[03:14:31] * Amanda tucks in around Elfi, tired of playing with cu'thulu
L13[03:18:09] * Elfi wingblankets Amanda and dozes off against
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L15[03:30:11] <Amanda> Night nerds
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L23[06:11:18] <Forec​aster> %tonk
L24[06:11:18] <MichiBot> Golly! Forec​aster! You beat your own previous record of <0 (By 6 hours, 51 minutes and 5 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L25[06:11:19] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 6 hours, 51 minutes and 5 seconds! No points gained for stealing from yourself. (Lost out on 0.00685)
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L36[08:42:14] <ThePi​Guy24> woot ytdl is back
L37[08:42:53] <CoolO​livie> Message contained 4 or more newlines and was pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/ejuhetuhej
L38[08:43:04] <CoolO​livie> Message contained 4 or more newlines and was pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/tefokonipa
L39[08:44:17] <ThePi​Guy24> can you right click it with an analyser ans see what it says?
L40[08:45:54] <CoolO​livie> Just says
L41[08:45:54] <CoolO​livie> Component: microcontroller
L42[08:45:55] <CoolO​livie> Address: Not copying that in
L43[08:46:23] <ThePi​Guy24> hmm
L44[08:46:28] <CoolO​livie> Just says
L45[08:46:28] <CoolO​livie> Component name: microcontroller
L46[08:46:28] <CoolO​livie> Address: Not copying that in [Edited]
L47[08:47:12] <CoolO​livie> Oh wait I think I forgot an end.
L48[08:49:00] <CoolO​livie> It works now.
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L52[09:29:38] <Ha​cka> how do i use the audio module
L53[09:29:40] <Ha​cka> :)
L54[09:29:50] <Ha​cka> im feeding it hex values and it's just silent
L55[09:30:11] <Ha​cka> and it's all valid, i'm literally just feeding it 1234 over again
L56[09:30:37] <Ha​cka> https://tinyurl.com/y4wz97pp
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L58[09:38:31] <Ha​cka> ok, a random module works
L59[09:38:52] <Ha​cka> and if i put a random module next to a stack module, it makes values grouped into 4
L60[09:38:58] <Ha​cka> how do i make those values
L61[09:45:19] <Ha​cka> nvm, shl
L62[10:06:53] <Ha​cka> how do i make multi page programs
L63[10:17:45] * Saphire ponders a silly thing
L64[11:34:59] <Pat​chi> What is this %tonk thing
L65[11:35:00] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Patchi, you were not able to beat Forecaster's record of 6 hours, 51 minutes and 5 seconds this time. 5 hours, 23 minutes and 41 seconds were wasted! Missed by 1 hour, 27 minutes and 23 seconds!
L66[11:38:23] <Lizzy> %tonkleaders has an explanation of it
L67[11:38:23] <MichiBot> Li​zzy: https://michibot.pc-logix.com/tonk
L68[11:48:05] <Amanda> %splash Inari with mutable black potion
L69[11:48:05] <MichiBot> You fling a mutable black potion that splashes onto Inari. Inari turns into a dryad until they see a bird.
L70[11:48:21] <Amanda> Oh right, that's what happen to me last night
L71[11:49:03] <Amanda> %splash Inari with mutable white potion
L72[11:49:03] <MichiBot> You fling a mutable white potion (New!) that splashes onto Inari. Inari turns into a chocolate golem until someone baps them.
L73[11:57:02] <Forec​aster> hm
L74[11:57:30] <Forec​aster> %jumble all of these words here % but not these words here
L75[11:57:30] <MichiBot> words these all here of
L76[11:57:45] <Forec​aster> interesting
L77[11:58:08] <Forec​aster> unintended feature
L78[12:01:21] <Amanda> Izaya: I mentioned elsewhere how I like to watch series of a game while I'm playing that game? This is part of why, I was getting frustated at a sudden steep learning curve... turns out I jumped the gun, and went to a higher-leveled area before clearing the lower level
L79[12:09:40] <Inari> Amanda: you and your love for mutating me D:
L80[12:10:14] <Amanda> L-lewd...
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L86[13:33:54] <Forec​aster> %sip
L87[13:33:54] <MichiBot> You drink a freezing platinum potion (New!). Forecaster spots a shiny thing!
L88[14:03:01] <Forec​aster> oh, huh
L89[14:03:11] <Forec​aster> something's happened to the encoding of the help page
L90[14:03:32] <Forec​aster> the L shape things for subcommands are displayed as question marks
L91[14:32:51] <MichiBot> Izaya REMINDER: you better have tested that PR
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L93[15:42:02] <Efe_Altan> hello
L94[15:44:41] <ThePi​Guy24> hello
L95[15:45:17] <Efe ​Altan> uhh do anyone know how to make an example package on OPPM ? or any example repo?
L96[15:45:54] <Izaya> make a repo on GH, use an existing repo's programs.cfg for reference
L97[15:45:55] <Efe ​Altan> i am quite new on OC but know the basics.
L98[15:46:03] <Izaya> https://github.com/ShadowKatStudios/OC-Minitel/blob/master/programs.cfg
L99[15:46:24] <Efe ​Altan> thanks 🙂
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L101[16:35:23] <Amanda> @payonel I think I finally understand what you mean by "Making tablets not items" -- do you mean storing the components, other NBT data in the itemstack, but just a reference? It only occurd to me because I've noticed playing 1.15+ packs, a lot of mods have moved away from itemstack-based NBT
L102[16:35:37] <Amanda> s/storing/not storing/
L103[16:35:38] <MichiBot> <Amanda> @payonel I think I finally understand what you mean by "Making tablets not items" -- do you mean not storing the components, other NBT data in the itemstack, but just a reference? It only occurd to me because I've noticed playing 1.15+ packs, a lot of mods have moved away from itemstack-based NBT
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L106[17:08:40] <Michiyo> Ahh, the SSL Cert for https://catfact.ninja/fact expired
L107[17:08:42] <Michiyo> fun times.
L108[17:20:53] <bad at​ vijya> h m
L109[17:20:54] <bad at​ vijya> so
L110[17:21:03] <bad at​ vijya> my friend gave me a fun challenge
L111[17:21:09] <bad at​ vijya> make ss13 but in gmod
L112[17:21:11] <bad at​ vijya> 👀
L113[17:35:46] <Efe ​Altan> possible. but remember we are on the #oc channel not #more-off-topic-than-oc
L114[17:38:26] <Amanda> %choose waves; talky or dancy
L115[17:38:27] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: dancy waves
L116[17:42:00] <Izaya> but I want to talk to #oc people about not-#oc things
L117[17:42:05] <Izaya> as such, #oc is the only place to do so
L118[17:44:02] <CompanionCube> bad at vijya: imagine implementing atmospherics
L119[17:45:17] <Amanda> I mean, there was that one "space" gmod mod ages ago that simulated things having an atmo
L120[17:45:34] <Amanda> required cooperation for the map creation though
L121[17:59:30] <Ocawes​ome101> let's see if i waited long enough to %tonk
L122[17:59:30] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Ocawesome101, you were not able to beat Forecaster's record of 6 hours, 51 minutes and 5 seconds this time. 6 hours, 24 minutes and 30 seconds were wasted! Missed by 26 minutes and 34 seconds!
L123[17:59:34] <Ocawes​ome101> dangit
L124[18:04:07] <Forec​aster> :|
L125[18:08:57] <bad at​ vijya> CC: not hard, i think
L126[18:11:56] <bad at​ vijya> i hope
L127[18:18:35] <R​ph> A friend of mine discovered an interesting feature of windows
L128[18:18:37] <Michiyo> Want to crash discord users on old iOS versions that Discord doesn't support? Enable Announcement channels!
L129[18:18:51] <R​ph> On 32bit windows 10 20H2 (october 2020 update), removing the print console and the fax and scan service causes the system to enter a bootloop
L130[18:19:02] <Michiyo> Seems that those were a breaking change... instead of it just falling back and that feature not working, it crashes the client.
L131[18:19:04] <R​ph> With the errors originating in the NTFS driver
L132[18:25:08] <Forec​aster> boo, they're not shipping my SSD until the 30th >:
L133[19:00:44] <Michiyo> :(
L134[19:04:39] <Forec​aster> and here I naively thought I'd get it this week...
L135[19:27:36] <Michiyo> `{"fact":"Approximately 24 cat skins can make a coat."}` but why though....
L136[19:27:59] <Ariri> o_O
L137[19:28:34] <Amanda> D:
L138[19:28:49] <Ariri> %s/can make a coat/can total the same surface area as 24 cats :3
L139[19:28:50] <MichiBot> <Michiyo> `{"fact":"Approximately 24 cat skins can total the same surface area as 24 cats :3."}` but why though....
L140[19:29:36] <Michiyo> Ariri++
L141[19:29:36] <MichiBot> Michiyo: Ariri now has 3 points
L142[19:31:16] <Ariri> :D
L143[19:41:53] <Michiyo> `{"fact":"Cats are very soft."}`
L144[19:41:56] <Michiyo> Yes.
L145[19:42:33] <Forec​aster> well, the furry ones at least
L146[19:42:56] <Michiyo> `{"fact":"A cat's carbon footprint is similar to that of a VW Bug, whereas a dog's is more like a Hummer."}` WELLLLL With the VW Emissions sandal... *cough*
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L148[19:48:11] <Amanda> the bug's from long before the scandel though, isn't it? I thought the scandle came about in the mid '00s after bush /obama tightened the requirements
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L151[19:48:32] <Amanda> so rather than put any engineering effort, why not just do a software hack to cheat!
L152[19:49:17] <Michiyo> 1999 New US Tier 2 rules established to replace Tier 1. NO
L153[19:49:17] <Michiyo> x limit decreasing from 1.0 g/mi to 0.07 g/mi
L154[19:49:20] <Michiyo> So Clinton
L155[19:49:28] <Amanda> ah
L156[19:49:47] <Michiyo> But this was also a EU issue as well
L157[19:52:19] <Forec​aster> curse those europeans!
L158[19:53:44] <Sap​hire> I would like to propose an extension to irc standard
L159[19:54:03] <Sap​hire> For elemental messages that last only 24h
L160[19:54:28] <Sap​hire> And remain always available to look at them
L161[19:54:50] <Forec​aster> what
L162[19:56:31] <Vexatos> elemental messages
L163[19:56:36] <Vexatos> you can attach an element to it
L164[19:56:41] <Vexatos> like fire, water, air, or earth
L165[19:56:51] <Forec​aster> what about spirit
L166[19:57:30] <Michiyo> s/spirit/heart/
L167[19:57:30] <MichiBot> <Forecaster> what about heart
L168[19:57:41] <Michiyo> BY YOUR POWERS COMBINED
L169[19:57:52] <Michiyo> Or.. whatever the quote is
L170[19:58:04] <Michiyo> Something something Captain Planet
L171[19:58:29] <Forec​aster> I have never watched Captain Planet
L172[20:02:18] <Ocawes​ome101> @Rph excuse me you what
L173[20:03:29] <Ariri> I have the power
L174[20:03:43] <R​ph> yep
L175[20:03:49] <R​ph> want to see the video showing that "Feature" of windows off?
L176[20:03:57] <R​ph> here https://tinyurl.com/y42hrntz
L177[20:04:11] <R​ph> Its 2 minutes long, apologies, recorded on a hard drive-based VM
L178[20:05:15] <R​ph> Except for installing vmware tools, that VM was completely stock installation of windows 10 20H2 32bit
L179[20:05:24] <R​ph> And I did confirm later on bare metal
L180[20:05:35] <Amanda> just 32-bit windows though?
L181[20:06:17] <R​ph> yes
L182[20:06:22] <Amanda> https://i.imgur.com/x3T2usG.png
L183[20:06:36] <R​ph> On 64bit windows, you can remove and re-add the fax service no problem.
L184[20:07:23] <R​ph> (Tested on a setup that except for bitness of windows was otherwise exactly the same)
L185[20:10:24] <Forec​aster> but, why would you remove the fax service
L186[20:10:29] <Forec​aster> everyone needs fax!
L187[20:10:43] <R​ph> That's kinda... faxed up
L188[20:10:53] <Forec​aster> boo
L189[20:12:57] <ThePi​Guy24> gotta love it
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L192[20:36:04] * dequbed overcharges Ariri
L193[20:38:46] <dequbed> So apparently beuth.de broke their SSL and now broke their server entirely. Which is a bummer becaues I want to read DIN 65071-3 because apparently reading standards in my free time counts as hobby.
L194[20:47:28] <Forec​aster> anything can be a hobby if you obsess enough over it
L195[20:47:39] <Forec​aster> I mean what
L196[20:49:53] <CompanionCube> standard for?
L197[20:51:03] <dequbed> CompanionCube: "Aerospace series - Fibre reinforced moulding materials - Part 3: Preparation of honeycomb/prepreg sandwich test panels"
L198[20:51:14] <CompanionCube> wow
L199[20:52:00] <dequbed> CompanionCube: I do fiber composite materials for fun :p
L200[20:53:02] <dequbed> I can't work with wood for shit but I know how to weld aluminium, have machined magnesium and laminated my own carbon fiber panels. I'm either doing something very wrong or very right.
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L203[22:04:51] <Ocawes​ome101> @Rph that's..... incredible. Good job, Microsoft
L204[22:09:57] <CompanionCube> %tonkattempts
L205[22:09:57] <MichiBot> You have 2 attempts left.
L206[22:09:59] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L207[22:09:59] <MichiBot> I'm sorry CompanionCube, you were not able to beat Forecaster's record of 6 hours, 51 minutes and 5 seconds this time. 4 hours, 10 minutes and 28 seconds were wasted! Missed by 2 hours, 40 minutes and 36 seconds!
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L209[22:41:12] <Ocawes​ome101> aaaaaa
L210[22:41:41] <Ocawes​ome101> i'm trying to install version 96.43 of the NVidia drivers on Ubuntu 16.04
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L212[22:42:03] <Ocawes​ome101> aaaaaaaand nvidia's blob thing doesn't work because it can't find `version.h` in the kernel headers
L213[22:42:31] <Amanda> install linux-headers
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L215[22:45:46] <stephan48> hello did you just say you want to inflict mental pain upon yourself?
L216[22:46:12] <Ocawes​ome101> Amanda: i did that already and it still complains
L217[22:46:15] <Ocawes​ome101> yes, i did
L218[22:46:35] <Ocawes​ome101> the integrated graphics in the machine i'm installing the driver on have a max of 8MB of vram
L219[22:46:41] <Ocawes​ome101> meaning they're unusably slow
L220[22:47:05] <Ocawes​ome101> ```ERROR: The kernel header file '/lib/modules/4.4.0-194-generic/build/include/linux/version.h' does not exist. The most likely reason for this is that the kernel source files in '/lib/modules/4.4.0-194-generic/build' have not been configured.```
L221[22:48:23] <Ocawes​ome101> i downloaded the driver from nvidia's website because it's so old (the mx420 is from 2002) that ubuntu doesn't host it anymore
L222[23:06:44] <Ha​cka> is it possible to make a tis-3d network that runs faster than a maxed out oc computer
L223[23:07:43] <Ocawes​ome101> probably not
L224[23:07:46] <Kristo​pher38> Huh
L225[23:07:53] <Ocawes​ome101> at least not easily
L226[23:07:56] <Ocawes​ome101> or feasibly
L227[23:08:04] <Kristo​pher38> That’d be impressive but probably not
L228[23:08:17] <Amanda> does TIS-3d even have networking other than redstone? In which case, no, redstone only ticks every other tick.
L229[23:08:34] <Lizzy> it has the infra-red stuff?
L230[23:08:43] <Ocawes​ome101> ...hmm. it appears the nvidia driver required for this card only supports Xorg versions 1.12 and olver
L231[23:08:45] <Ocawes​ome101> older
L232[23:09:05] <Kristo​pher38> Tis 3D was designed to be sth in between red stone and oc in terms of performance
L233[23:09:12] <Ocawes​ome101> so maybe i should just stick with nouveau :/
L234[23:09:51] <Ha​cka> yes, i'm sure, but you can make the individual controllers run faster than tick speed
L235[23:09:51] <Ha​cka> and you can easily transfer data with redstone
L236[23:09:51] <Ha​cka> so, funnily enough, the bottleneck to work around is going to be data transmission
L237[23:10:23] <Ha​cka> i'll just make data transmission span multiple lanes
L238[23:10:25] <Ha​cka> lol
L239[23:10:57] <Ha​cka> yes, i'm sure, but you can make the individual controllers run faster than tick speed
L240[23:10:57] <Ha​cka> and you can easily transfer data with redstone
L241[23:10:57] <Ha​cka> so, the bottleneck to work around would be data transmission [Edited]
L242[23:11:56] <Ha​cka> considering people have made functioning redstone computers that run at a passable speed, i think it's possible to get some basic stuff going with tis stuff.
L243[23:12:04] <Ha​cka> considering people have made functioning redstone computers that run at a passable speed, i think it's possible to get some basic stuff going with tis. [Edited]
L244[23:13:04] <Kristo​pher38> Passable you mean waiting a dozen seconds for a visible output?
L245[23:14:18] <B​ob> redstone still ticks 20 times per second
L246[23:14:38] <B​ob> so youd need absurd amounts of lines
L247[23:14:56] <Ha​cka> oh, it was obsurd
L248[23:14:59] <Amanda> no, it ticks 10 times asecond, every other tick
L249[23:15:15] <Ha​cka> like 10 chunks of redstone and command blocks
L250[23:15:20] <Ha​cka> filled to the brim
L251[23:15:42] <Ha​cka> its a world download somewhere on planetminecraft
L252[23:15:48] <Amanda> %choose cubes or eldrich
L253[23:15:48] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Is it a bird?! Is it a plane?! No! It's "cubes"!
L254[23:16:09] <B​ob> forgot redstone half ticks lol
L255[23:16:33] <Ha​cka> well, unless you're a piston in very specific situations
L256[23:16:56] <Ha​cka> 0 tick noises intensify
L257[23:17:42] <B​ob> again, its not a bug its a feature
L258[23:18:03] <Amanda> so much of redstone is "not a bug it's a feature"
L259[23:18:05] <Ha​cka> its a bug mojang can't remove or the redstone community will have an aneurism
L260[23:18:13] <Ha​cka> :)
L261[23:18:41] <Amanda> Didn't a mojang dev go on record saying how much of a pain redstone was to do in bedrock, because so much of it was based around seeming-incinsequential things in the java "engine"
L262[23:19:07] <Amanda> like, chunk renderingorder or similar
L263[23:19:37] <Ha​cka> the lack of java bugs and the randomness of bedrock redstone is the reason why many java players don't like bedrock redstone
L264[23:19:49] <Ha​cka> it's not bad, we've just gotten spoiled
L265[23:19:53] <Ha​cka> :)
L266[23:20:07] <Ha​cka> making a compact bedrock 2x2 door isn't that hard
L267[23:22:49] <B​ob> Minecraft is a crime against humanity codewise
L268[23:22:50] <Ha​cka> Message contained 4 or more newlines and was pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/ezelezezos
L269[23:22:57] <Ha​cka> nah, just mojangs code
L270[23:23:02] <B​ob> everyone who touches its code is in pain
L271[23:23:06] <Ha​cka> nope
L272[23:23:11] <Ha​cka> not the insane people
L273[23:23:22] <B​ob> even they are in pain stop lying to me
L274[23:23:28] <Ha​cka> Sodium makes java 1.16 run at least 10 times faster
L275[23:23:34] <Ha​cka> they're a masochist
L276[23:23:39] <Ha​cka> they must enjoy it
L277[23:23:46] <Ha​cka> Sodium makes java 1.16 render at least 10 times faster [Edited]
L278[23:23:54] <B​ob> Well they're rewriting the code
L279[23:24:07] <B​ob> rewriting doesnt involve reading the old mess
L280[23:24:18] <B​ob> just take input and give a compliant output
L281[23:24:19] <Ha​cka> it does if you want every block to render
L282[23:24:27] <Sap​hire> @Forecaster fuck
L283[23:24:29] <Ha​cka> you have to read what's being rendered
L284[23:24:33] <Ha​cka> and render it
L285[23:24:36] <Sap​hire> My joke was supposed to be ephemeral messages
L286[23:24:39] <Sap​hire> Not.. gah
L287[23:24:45] <B​ob> f u c c
L288[23:25:18] <B​ob> I'd rewrite Minecraft in Rust, so it runs 1/0 faster
L289[23:25:24] <Ha​cka> and it's a decade old voxel building game made by an indie company thats upsized since and acts like the gc is perfect
L290[23:25:42] <Ha​cka> gc== garbage collector
L291[23:25:43] <Ha​cka> they throw things away so often
L292[23:25:44] <Ha​cka> :)
L293[23:25:45] <B​ob> Java 8's GC is the fucking worst
L294[23:25:49] <Sap​hire> @Bob there's actually projects of it
L295[23:25:54] <B​ob> ik
L296[23:25:58] <Ha​cka> i use adoptopenjdk 11
L297[23:25:58] <B​ob> i use Stevenarella
L298[23:26:01] <Sap​hire> Also I'll stab anyone who suggests writing in C
L299[23:26:02] <Ha​cka> or was it 13
L300[23:26:05] <Ha​cka> whatever the latest one is
L301[23:26:08] <B​ob> C can go die
L302[23:26:10] <B​ob> Rust exists
L303[23:26:17] <Ha​cka> ok: write it in asm
L304[23:26:17] <Sap​hire> Especially if the argument is "raw memory management is superior"
L305[23:26:19] * Amanda replaces Inari's garbage collector with a reference-counting one, now she can eat cursed fingeres 10x faster!
L306[23:26:21] <B​ob> https://tinyurl.com/y4bparrg
L307[23:26:23] <Sap​hire> Go fuck yourself
L308[23:26:36] <B​ob> Imagine not having a smart enough compiler
L309[23:26:37] <Ha​cka> write minecraft in tis-3d
L310[23:26:45] <Sap​hire> Raw memory management is never good thing to use for anything beyond embedded hardware
L311[23:26:55] <B​ob> it still would be faster than the java ver @Hacka
L312[23:27:05] <B​ob> Only embeded and drivers require raw
L313[23:27:09] <B​ob> all rest should be safe
L314[23:27:11] <Amanda> but with raw memory access you can introduce security vurlnabilities FASTER!
L315[23:27:15] <Sap​hire> Or very.. VERY high performance shit, even then you somehow failed in lot of languages at this point
L316[23:27:23] ⇦ Quits: lord| (~ba7888b72@66.109.211.148) (Quit: https://i.imgur.com/xacQ09F.mp4)
L317[23:27:31] <B​ob> https://tinyurl.com/yy7gm5en
L318[23:27:34] <B​ob> There's no raw anymore
L319[23:27:38] <B​ob> just Rust
L320[23:27:39] <Ha​cka> ok, what if you write gamemaker in unity in gamemaker in unity
L321[23:27:46] <B​ob> use the derive that disables all safety checks
L322[23:27:47] <B​ob> enjoy
L323[23:27:58] <Sap​hire> Like, you have to have some impressive stuff going on when Rust or even fucking c#'s standard library and calls are making you slow compared to c
L324[23:28:08] <Sap​hire> (c# core)
L325[23:28:15] <Sap​hire> (it's good, don't @ me)
L326[23:28:19] <B​ob> Use no_std
L327[23:28:22] <Ha​cka> ok, i tried to learn c++
L328[23:28:22] <Ha​cka> take a wild guess what stopped me from making anything
L329[23:28:27] <B​ob> and rewrite your stuff to be fast
L330[23:28:28] <Sap​hire> VS
L331[23:28:31] <B​ob> C++ is meh tbhh
L332[23:28:32] <Ha​cka> no
L333[23:28:34] <Ha​cka> windows api
L334[23:28:35] <Sap​hire> I fucking bet you it was vs
L335[23:28:36] <B​ob> i tried it its just..
L336[23:28:37] <B​ob> no
L337[23:28:38] <Sap​hire> ... Ah
L338[23:28:48] <Ha​cka> i couldnt figure out how to just make a fucking window
L339[23:28:52] <Amanda> https://i.imgur.com/Jkdtlox.png
L340[23:28:59] <B​ob> i only use C when i have to declare headers in LuaJIT's FFI lol
L341[23:29:01] <Amanda> oh, win32 is fun!
L342[23:29:03] <Sap​hire> My first experience with programming was a c++ book and VS2007 express
L343[23:29:05] <Ha​cka> his hair has veins lol
L344[23:29:16] <B​ob> Oof
L345[23:29:25] <B​ob> my first experience was OC, bo regrets
L346[23:29:28] <Sap​hire> The book explicitly, directly, told that it will be all console because initializing Windows is shit
L347[23:29:31] <Amanda> Just copy-paste this event loop boilerplate from a 1995 blog post!
L348[23:29:34] <Sap​hire> *windowing shit
L349[23:29:39] <B​ob> Windows is shit agreed
L350[23:29:49] <Ha​cka> my first experience programming was a ti-84 SE
L351[23:29:52] <Ha​cka> :)
L352[23:30:04] <Amanda> Mine was GameMaker... in the mid '00s
L353[23:30:06] <B​ob> Lol, i dont understand those calculators when phones exist
L354[23:30:09] <B​ob> ARM is superior
L355[23:30:15] <B​ob> 👏
L356[23:30:23] <Ha​cka> i could just draw directly to the screen, much easier than however tf you tell windows to make a window
L357[23:30:32] <Ha​cka> it's WINDOWS, you should be able to make one
L358[23:30:38] <Sap​hire> Ah
L359[23:30:49] <B​ob> youll make a literal window in your screen before you figure out windows
L360[23:30:50] <B​ob> brb
L361[23:30:56] <Amanda> Thene I tried C/C++ to make gamemaker plugins... then I moved into C/C++ exclusively... then PHP... then there's a huge missing section of my memory, ending in Python... now I prefer Go, but I'm very much a polyglot when it comes to programming
L362[23:30:57] <Ha​cka> yes
L363[23:31:05] <Ha​cka> ok
L364[23:31:15] <Ha​cka> program with a magnet
L365[23:31:21] <Amanda> M-x butterfly
L366[23:31:30] <Ha​cka> xkcd fan i see
L367[23:31:31] <Sap​hire> C++, a beginner's guide
L368[23:31:41] <Sap​hire> That was my first programming book
L369[23:31:44] <Amanda> the xkcd irc channel was my teenage years.
L370[23:31:57] <Sap​hire> Oh, Schildt
L371[23:32:01] <Ha​cka> xkcd had an irc channel?
L372[23:32:18] <Amanda> Yes, they're on slashnet now though
L373[23:32:42] <Ha​cka> i'm like 16, p sure i missed the age of xkcd irc channels altogether
L374[23:32:44] <Ha​cka> :)
L375[23:32:47] <Amanda> I've been banned for years though, apparently an op mis-interpreting a message as a suicidal threat counts as a reason to permaban someone.
L376[23:33:00] <Amanda> vOv
L377[23:33:24] <Ha​cka> a suicidal threat?
L378[23:33:27] <Ha​cka> tf does that mean
L379[23:33:35] <Ha​cka> "do it or i'll fucking kill myself"
L380[23:33:43] <Amanda> p. much
L381[23:33:49] ⇨ Joins: lord| (~ba7888b72@66.109.211.148)
L382[23:34:08] <Sap​hire> ...uhm
L383[23:34:16] <Sap​hire> That sounds uhh, hm
L384[23:34:42] <Amanda> ( I did not mean whatever I said in that way, but that's how it waas interpreted )
L385[23:35:28] <Amanda> But meh, the channel was going downhill for years, I'm probably not even banned since they switched networks.
L386[23:35:39] <Amanda> Just don't care to go back
L387[23:35:47] <B​ob> https://youtu.be/6p-n5u3kGpY
L388[23:35:47] <MichiBot> WELL THAT'S WAS IDIOTIC OFF TO HANG MYSELF WATCH AND LEARN- | length: 6s | Likes: 369 Dislikes: 1 Views: 9,670 | by Official Mokena1999 | Published On 27/9/2019
L389[23:36:40] <B​ob> and mobile discord is as usual lacking desktop one features
L390[23:39:16] <Amanda> anyway, going to unplug, might get verbally abused by eldrich abominations for destroying their power later,idk
L391[23:48:35] <dequbed> Saphire: C stronk. Manual Memory management good. Me smart, hit computer with club.
L392[23:49:31] <Lizzy> haha c go brrr
L393[23:49:53] <B​ob> haha segfault go brrr
L394[23:51:05] <dequbed> Lizzy: Nooo, you can't just map differnt memory access methods with varying latencies into a linear memory region! Hahaha transaction lookaside buffer go brrrrrrr
L395[23:51:33] <dequbed> Also known as C's pointing at every CPU and going "Is this a PDP-11?"
L396[23:54:14] <CompanionCube> https://twitter.com/FinancialTimes/status/1328659350781571073 the financial times can go fuck themselves kthx
L397[23:54:14] <MichiBot> Tue Nov 17 11:20:49 UTC 2020 @FinancialTimes: ‘Millennials,’ adults born between 1981 and 1996, have the lowest rate of satisfaction with democracy than any othe… <https://t.co/EoYj1mFJis&gt;
L398[23:55:42] <dequbed> CompanionCube: Did you read the paper from Deutsche Bank that read that young people don't like capitalism anymore because they get the shit end of the stick and the solution proposed is to indoctrinate young people so they love capitalism again?
L399[23:56:47] <CompanionCube> i mean, it does make tactical sense
L400[23:57:22] <CompanionCube> how well did it work for bismarck?
L401[23:57:44] <dequbed> Very well
L402[23:58:03] <Kristo​pher38> he was universally hated
L403[23:58:08] <Kristo​pher38> :^)
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