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<Nathan - Car
Gang> in 1.12 can open computers cables go through compact
machines mod and grab components inside of it
L4[01:26:25]
<BrisingrAerowing> They can pass through,
though I’m not sure about grabbing components in there.
L5[01:26:53]
<Nathan - Car
Gang> hmm ok
L6[01:30:35]
<BrianH>
there have been other mods like this so maybe this one will not
suck
L7[01:30:40]
<BrianH>
the fluid dyunamics one
L8[01:38:22]
<Nathan - Car
Gang> is there a terminal command to see all the methods of a
given component
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L10[01:43:55] <Izaya> you can iterate over
them from lua
L11[01:44:23] <Izaya> for k,v in
pairs(component.whatever) do print(k) end
L12[01:52:21] <Amanda> There's also
components <type> -l
L13[01:52:37] <Amanda> I think it's -l at
least
L14[01:53:21] <Amanda> Anyways, meowning
Izaya
L15[02:05:19]
<Nathan - Car
Gang> ok thanks
L16[02:12:23] <Amanda> %remindme 10h
animoo
L17[02:12:23] <MichiBot> I'll remind you
about "animoo" at 11/08/2020 12:12:23 PM
L18[02:31:22] <Izaya> ey Amanda how
goes
L19[02:32:22] <Amanda> Eh, so so
L20[02:33:53] <Izaya> I think my issues
have been caused by memory errors
L21[02:33:55] <Izaya> so that's fun
L22[02:34:00] <Izaya> I'm going to reseat
the memory modules
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L24[02:37:14] <Amanda> I spent most of the
day fighting playing with nix. Got angry about sway + greetd not
playing nice, so I tried out kde. Then xfce. Then pantheon. Then
eded up reverting it all back to sway. And miraculously the problem
I was having with sway is gone!
L25[02:37:55] <Amanda> Ducking
hiesenbugs
L26[02:38:05] <Amanda> Oh, he left
L27[02:38:57] <Amanda> %tell Izaya I spent
most of the day fighting playing with nix. Got angry about sway +
greetd not playing nice, so I tried out kde. Then xfce. Then
pantheon. Then eded up reverting it all back to sway. And
miraculously the problem I was having with sway is gone!
L28[02:38:57] <MichiBot> Amanda: Izaya
will be notified of this message when next seen.
L29[03:03:31] *
Amanda yawns, curls up around Elfi
L30[03:04:17] <Amanda> %remindme 8h see if
quassel has some kind of backgriund-write mode
L31[03:04:17] <MichiBot> I'll remind you
about "see if quassel has some kind of backgriund-write
mode" at 11/08/2020 11:04:17 AM
L32[03:04:38] <Amanda> Night nerds
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L34[03:27:40] <Izaya> so uh
L35[03:27:46] <Izaya> one of the sticks of
DDR3 has issues
L36[03:27:53] <Izaya> server is down to 24G
of memory now
L37[03:28:40]
<ThePiGuy24> rip
L38[03:29:02] <Izaya> still an improvement,
I'm just angry
L39[03:29:30] <CompanionCube> do you think
it had an impact on your database problems
L40[03:29:37] <Izaya> most likely yes
L41[03:29:41] <Izaya> ie I didn't need to
fix them at all
L42[03:29:54] <Izaya> so I guess I'll go
die
L43[03:30:04] <CompanionCube> huh?
L44[04:37:24] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L45[04:37:24] <MichiBot> Eureka!
CompanionCube! You beat Ocawesome101's previous record of 1 hour,
50 minutes and 45 seconds (By 5 hours, 27 minutes and 12 seconds)!
I hope you're happy!
L46[04:37:25] <MichiBot> CompanionCube's
new record is 7 hours, 17 minutes and 58 seconds! CompanionCube
also gained 0.0109 (0.00545 x 2) tonk points for stealing the tonk.
Position #2. Need 0.1223438 more points to pass Forecaster!
L47[04:38:12] <CompanionCube> damn it, too
long :(
L48[04:50:37]
<bad at
vijya> aaaaaa
L49[04:50:48]
<bad at
vijya> i hate stupid teenagers already
L50[04:50:49]
<bad at
vijya> fuckin
L51[04:51:05]
<bad at
vijya> come in, screech at us, flip us off, not even wearing
masks
L52[04:51:26]
<bad at
vijya> throw a fit when we kick you out after we told you to put
on a mask
L53[04:51:57]
<bad at
vijya> anyways
L54[04:52:11]
<bad at
vijya> glad the man who was literally dead weight left
today
L55[04:52:16]
<bad at
vijya> -.-
L56[04:52:30]
<bad at
vijya> i'm limping along while this dude just sits there
L57[04:52:40]
<bad at
vijya> can't even wipe off a fucking steering wheel
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L62[07:27:01]
<ThePiGuy24> its very slow atm but it
works
L63[07:33:42] <Izaya> 2.15G / 2.00G Memory
Clock 107.50%
L64[07:33:44] <Izaya> nice
L65[07:34:32] <CompanionCube> such
overclock
L66[07:34:50] <Izaya> the shader clock is
like 109.7% or something
L67[07:35:00] <Izaya> I just like the way
radeontop puts it
L68[07:35:00] <CompanionCube> much memory,
very fast
L69[07:37:06] <CompanionCube> `
L70[08:11:30] <Izaya> 109.81%
L71[08:11:45] <Izaya> 1.50G / 1.37G Shader
Clock 109.81%
L72[08:16:08] <CompanionCube> Izaya: since
i haven't looked in a while, gimme a poke if/when your pleroma is
no longer kill
L73[08:16:19] <Izaya> I managed to
resurrect it like
L74[08:16:22] <Izaya> 10 minutes ago
L75[08:16:37] <Izaya> in a feat that can
only be described as necromancy
L76[08:16:43] <CompanionCube> <at what
cost meme>
L77[08:20:09] *
CompanionCube sees 'no statuses'....ah.
L78[08:20:49] <Izaya> That is a fun bug
then.
L79[08:21:39] <CompanionCube> 8793rd status
but the only visible one.
L80[08:25:01] <CompanionCube> yep, links to
older objects are 404ing.
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L98[11:04:18] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER:
see if quassel has some kind of backgriund-write mode
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L101[12:12:24] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER:
animoo
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L108[13:36:51] <Amanda> Shitty idea for a
meme: "If the earth was flat, would it wear it's continents
like this [one projection] or this [another projection]"
L109[13:49:21]
<Forecaster> %tonkout
L110[13:49:22] <MichiBot> Boom!
Forecaster! You beat CompanionCube's previous record of 7 hours,
17 minutes and 58 seconds (By 1 hour, 53 minutes and 59 seconds)! I
hope you're happy!
L111[13:49:23] <MichiBot> Forecaster has
stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.009 tonk
points! plus 0.008 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to
50% because stealing) Current score: 1.66219372. Position #1
L112[13:54:58] <Amanda> %choose ./overlay
or ./pkgs
L113[13:54:58] <MichiBot> Amanda: I
received a telegram from a long lost relative that only read
"./pkgs". Weird.
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<Patchi>
Telegram is bae
L120[14:55:25] <Izaya> :drakeno:
telegram
L121[14:55:36] <Izaya> :drakeyes:
XMPP
L122[14:55:42] <dequbed> Pretty sure this
is one of the wired ones, not the ~~Russian~~ Saudi kind.
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L124[15:01:16] <t20kdc> MichiBot oh
MichiBot show me the tell
L125[15:01:39] <t20kdc> Izaya: Remote
filesystems just need to be handled like any other kind of
component emulation
L126[15:01:53] <t20kdc> Izaya: Luckily I
think I implemented the architecture for that for OIP6
L127[15:02:08] <t20kdc> With component
emulation in place all downstream libraries/software will handle it
fine
L128[15:02:18] <Izaya> ez
L129[15:04:16] <Amanda> OIP6?
L130[15:30:37] <Amanda> %choose keep the
tangled mess or spend the day cleaning it uo
L131[15:30:37] <MichiBot> Amanda: I want
a divorce. I'm taking half the "spend the day cleaning it
uo".
L132[15:31:00] <Amanda> you'll help me
clean it up? HOw nice!
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L136[16:04:03] <Amanda> I see
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L139[16:36:22] <SquidDev> %tonk
L140[16:36:22] <MichiBot> Dagnammit!
SquidDev! You beat Forecaster's previous record of <0 (By 2
hours and 47 minutes)! I hope you're happy!
L141[16:36:23] <MichiBot> SquidDev's new
record is 2 hours and 47 minutes! SquidDev also gained 0.00278 tonk
points for stealing the tonk. Position #3. Need 0.21433183 more
points to pass CompanionCube!
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<Forecaster> %sip
L146[18:42:47] <MichiBot> You drink a
mutable aether potion (New!). Forecaster turns into a cyan toad boy
for 10 moons.
L147[18:43:07]
<Forecaster> A witches curse!
L148[18:50:20] <Amanda> right, let's see
what ignites...
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L151[19:23:17]
<Hacka> do
any opencomputer vms support gpu buffers
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<Hacka>
should i grab ocvm or an ocemu fork
L157[19:42:23]
<Hacka> the
zenith ocemu fork, more specifically
L158[19:43:18]
<Hacka> nvm
can't use any of them :\
L159[19:45:56]
<Ocawesome101> @Hacka Zenith's fork is the
only emulator that supports buffers
L160[19:45:59]
<Ocawesome101> afaik
L161[19:46:03]
<Ocawesome101> ocvm might at some
point
L162[19:49:56]
<Hacka> so,
i have to compile it then got it
L163[19:56:12]
<Forecaster> %tonk
L164[19:56:13] <MichiBot> Boo-yah!
Forecaster! You beat SquidDev's previous record of 2 hours and 47
minutes (By 32 minutes and 48 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L165[19:56:14] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new
record is 3 hours, 19 minutes and 49 seconds! Forecaster also
gained 0.00165 (0.00055 x 3) tonk points for stealing the tonk.
Position #1.
L166[19:59:40]
<Ocawesome101> @Hacka what OS are you
using? compilation is pretty easy on macOS and Linux. probably hell
on Windows.
L167[19:59:52]
<Hacka> on
windows i just have to use mingw
L168[19:59:54]
<Hacka>
nothing too bad
L169[20:00:09]
<bad at
vijya> ocvm did
L170[20:00:11]
<bad at
vijya> last i checked
L171[20:00:22]
<Hacka> its
precompiled though i though
L172[20:00:24]
<Hacka> its
precompiled though i thought [Edited]
L173[20:00:28]
<bad at
vijya> no
L174[20:00:28]
<bad at
vijya> you
L175[20:00:36]
<bad at
vijya> have to compile it yourself
L177[20:01:25]
<bad at
vijya> or something like that
L178[20:01:52]
<Hacka> for
some reason msys doesnt support git clone, so i ended up having to
also use my git shell
L179[20:02:29]
<Ocawesome101> @bad at vijya ocvm does not
support buffers
L180[20:02:49]
<Ocawesome101> ocemu does support lua 5.3,
you just have to manually specify it or some such thing
L181[20:03:06]
<bad at
vijya> damn
L182[20:03:07]
<bad at
vijya> thought it did
L183[20:03:09]
<bad at
vijya> oh well
L184[20:03:12]
<Hacka>
but, does ocemu support buffers
L185[20:03:14]
<Hacka> is
my question
L186[20:03:21]
<bad at
vijya> ig it's because it finally added HDDs
L187[20:03:24] <MichiBot> Michiyo
REMINDER: unban *!*@185.5.165.44
L188[20:03:28]
<bad at
vijya> also ffs i have to make my foxfs driver
L189[20:04:36]
<Hacka> i'm
thinking about making an efficient 2d game engine using
buffers
L190[20:04:40]
<Ocawesome101> @Hacka Zen1th's fork
does
L191[20:04:45]
<Ocawesome101> gamax's original does
not
L192[20:04:49]
<Hacka> i'm
compiling that right now
L193[20:05:02]
<Hacka>
well, i'm downloading 50 shades of mingw first
L195[20:05:17]
<bad at
vijya> i always forget how many games run in proton
L196[20:05:19]
<bad at
vijya> 👀
L197[20:05:46]
<Hacka>
anyways, why i'm downloading the vm: a gaming engine
L198[20:06:06]
<bad at
vijya> glhf
L199[20:06:25]
<Hacka> is
openos a good base for that, or am i going to have to do painful
lower-level things too
L200[20:07:17]
<Hacka> i
really don't want to have to rewrite the io library
L201[20:07:22]
<hilariousppp> i'd probably start with
openos as a base, since there's no downsides to using it
L202[20:07:30]
<Hacka>
there's no performance hit or anything
L203[20:07:32]
<Hacka>
aight
L204[20:07:34]
<hilariousppp> nope
L205[20:07:38]
<bad at
vijya> i mean OC isn't a great platform for making games
L206[20:07:39]
<bad at
vijya> tbh
L207[20:07:43]
<Hacka>
ik
L208[20:07:48]
<Hacka> but
with gpu buffers
L209[20:07:57]
<Hacka> you
can have things like sprites render a lot faster
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*!*@185.5.165.44
L211[20:08:48]
<Hacka>
question
L212[20:08:57] <Michiyo> Answer
L213[20:09:04]
<Hacka> is
it possible to have actual empty space around filled data
L214[20:09:10]
<Hacka> is
it possible to have actual empty space around filled screen data
[Edited]
L215[20:09:19]
<Hacka> or
is it always going to just be blackness
L216[20:09:31]
<Hacka> or
is it always going to just be blackness/background color
[Edited]
L217[20:09:55]
<DaComputerNerd> do edits actually go
through to the irc side
L218[20:10:00]
<Hacka>
no
L219[20:10:01] <Michiyo> Yes..
L220[20:10:03]
<Hacka>
sorry irc
L221[20:10:05]
<Hacka>
wait
L222[20:10:09]
<Hacka>
seriously?
L223[20:10:17]
<Hacka>
that's gotta be a bot thing
L225[20:10:27]
<Hacka>
normal irc doesn't allow actual edits idt
L226[20:11:28]
<Hacka>
anyways, what was i talking about?
L227[20:11:43]
<Hacka> oh
yea, is there such a thing as empty space in buffers
L228[20:12:59]
<Hacka> oh
yea, is there such a thing as empty space or a lack of characters
in buffers [Edited]
L229[20:13:35]
<ThePiGuy24> yes corded displays
edits
L230[20:14:22]
<Hacka> ig
i can look for that myself idk
L231[20:14:39]
<DaComputerNerd> from what i understand
no, only two colors on screen at once is what i was told
L232[20:16:19]
<Hacka> so,
have two wierd options that are both inferior to alpha data got
it
L233[20:16:31]
<Hacka> so,
have two wierd options that are both inferior to actual
transparency got it [Edited]
L234[20:16:43]
<bad at
vijya> ez just have your own buffer
L235[20:16:48]
<Hacka>
ahahhahahahaha
L236[20:16:59]
<Hacka> its
a lot slower than gpu buffers
L237[20:17:14]
<bad at
vijya> the slowest part of a program will almost always be the
component calls
L238[20:17:31]
<bad at
vijya> only draw what's been updated in your buffer
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<bad at
vijya> you could also have your own blending in software if
you're feeling masochistic
L241[20:18:42]
<Hacka> my
two options are: make a bunch of sprite buffers will filled in
background data, or make a system that treats a certain reserve
color that the dev chooses as transparent and copies that exact
color data over to the screen
L242[20:19:05]
<Hacka> my
two options are: make a bunch of sprite buffers will filled in
background data, or make a system that treats a certain reserve
color that the dev chooses as transparent and copies the background
color data from another buffer [Edited]
L243[20:19:39]
<Hacka> or,
i could use alpha buffers but that sounds like a pain
L244[20:20:20]
<Hacka>
moreso on the memory management side
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L246[20:21:38] <Amanda> wheee,
de-spaghettifying my nixos configs
L247[20:21:44]
<bad at
vijya> i mean
L248[20:22:01]
<bad at
vijya> what do you want in terms of alpha depth?
L249[20:22:13]
<bad at
vijya> color depth
L250[20:22:14]
<bad at
vijya> etc
L251[20:23:03]
<bad at
vijya> you could easily do 4 bits of red, blue, green, and alpha
in 16 bits
L252[20:23:17]
<bad at
vijya> or just 1 bit of alpha and 5 bits of red, blue, and
green
L253[20:23:53]
<bad at
vijya> 'course, blending is gonna be another thing
entirely
L254[20:23:54]
<bad at
vijya> but
L255[20:34:52] <dequbed> Amanda: Have you
considered `rm -rf`? :p
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L257[20:38:36] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L258[20:38:36] <MichiBot> I'm sorry
CompanionCube, you were not able to beat Forecaster's record of 3
hours, 19 minutes and 49 seconds this time. 42 minutes and 24
seconds were wasted! Missed by 2 hours, 37 minutes and 25
seconds!
L259[20:42:49] <Amanda> dequbed: briefly,
but then I'd not have any reference for the actually-good parts of
the spaghetti
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L262[21:08:20] <dequbed> Amanda: slightly
more serious, does Nix and configuration management make sense or
*is* nix enough configuration management to begin with?
L263[21:09:16] <Amanda> dequbed: depends,
I didn't have my awesomewm config managed by nix, but my sway
config is, just depends what the "config" is
L264[21:14:36] <Amanda> the more data-like
the config,themoreI'm willing to make it managed by nix,
personally
L265[21:37:58] <Inari> %pet Amanda
L266[21:37:58] <MichiBot> Inari is
brushing Amanda with an unterminated string. Amanda regains 1d4
=> 1 hit points! The unterminated string angered a gnome and
didn't get away in time.
L267[21:38:25] *
Inari notes down: "Gnome defenses against unterminated
strings"
L268[21:38:32] <Amanda> so one might say
that unterminated string... got terminated.
L269[21:38:40] <Inari> heh
L270[21:39:12] <Amanda> dequbed:
L271[21:39:33] <Amanda> dequbed: I may
have mis-parsed that. Kinda nix is config management? At least
under NixOS / home-maager it is
L272[21:40:07] <Amanda> ( Appologies for
the double ping, I got comfortable and as a result my typing became
bad )
L273[21:48:47] <Amanda> %choose continue
failing to detangle spaghetti or noms
L274[21:48:47] <MichiBot> Amanda:
Elementary dear Watson, "continue failing to detangle
spaghetti" is the obvious choice!
L275[22:40:50] <Amanda> Well, I've got my
laptop working I think. And Miranda's config is building now
L276[22:41:29]
<Kristopher38> what are the error that I
will usually encounter when dealing with sockets in OC and how
should I handle them?
L277[22:44:00] <Amanda> Hitting the
blacklist, I guess? Everything returns a proper error. Except for
the blacklist, I think SquidDev tracked it down to where trying to
tcp connect to a blacklisted domain causes the thread that handles
internet_ready to crash
L278[22:44:45]
<Kristopher38> yeah, but those proper
errors are strings which are locale-specific
L279[22:45:21]
<Kristopher38> so if i've got an operating
system in german or whatever, they're gonna be in that
language
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L281[22:45:46]
<Kristopher38> so I can't just compare
strings
L282[22:46:21]
<Kristopher38> if it returned an error
code as well, that would be great
L283[22:51:59] <Amanda> What do you mean
"handle them" then. There's not much practical difference
I can think of on the client side where if you can't connect due to
a timeout or due to a lack of connection. It's the same end result,
computer/network says no
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L285[22:54:17]
<Kristopher38> In case of trying to
establish connection, yes
L286[22:55:00]
<Kristopher38> In case of trying to send
something - what are the errors I can get? Two that i managed to
replicate regard remote host getting disconnected
L287[22:55:56] <Amanda> if you get an
error sending, the stream's destroyed.There's no recovering from
it
L288[22:56:22]
<Kristopher38> hm, you're right, so I have
to reconnect regardless of what error I get
L289[22:56:52] <Amanda> TCP is
stream-based, if it gets busted to the point that the kernel is
giving errors on write, it's lost
L290[22:57:39]
<Kristopher38> I assume it works the same
way in OC then
L291[22:58:28] <Amanda> yup
L292[22:59:00] <Amanda> since OC just uses
the kernel. I asume it's similarin Windows,since they ripped off
the BSD Berkely Sockets after their own API proved too BSOD-y
L293[23:01:00] <Amanda> wahay! miranda
builds as well.
L294[23:01:02]
<Kristopher38> so it's either successful
send/recv and I get number of bytes sent/string received, or error
and that means the socket is dead
L295[23:01:18] <Amanda> %choose play sever
roulette?
L296[23:01:18] <MichiBot> Amanda: Oh,
I've heard about that. You'll want to wait until tomorrow.
L297[23:01:23] <Amanda> sounds wise.
L298[23:01:36] <Amanda> %remindme 14h see
if miranda's new config works
L299[23:01:36] <MichiBot> I'll remind you
about "see if miranda's new config works" at 11/09/2020
01:01:36 PM
L300[23:02:14]
<Kristopher38> I wonder what happens if I
try to write more than OC allows in one call to send
L301[23:02:34] <Amanda> I don't think OC
limits that, other than memory limits?
L302[23:02:50]
<Kristopher38> lets see, gonna test it
now
L303[23:02:55] <Amanda> modem messages are
limited to prevent the inner-mod comminication from getting gummed
u[
L304[23:03:48] <Amanda> ( I assume, anyway
)
L305[23:14:21]
<Kristopher38> it seems there's no
limit
L306[23:14:33]
<Kristopher38> other that the memory
limitations ofc
L307[23:14:37]
<Kristopher38> other than the memory
limitations ofc [Edited]
L309[23:57:16]
<Bob>
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