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L1[00:03:44] <Brisingr​Aerowing> https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/windows-10-themes-can-be-abused-to-steal-windows-passwords/
L2[00:04:36] <Ocawes​ome101> ...
L3[00:04:39] <Ocawes​ome101> yeesh
L4[00:12:06] <simon816> %tonkout
L5[00:12:06] <MichiBot> Dagnammit! simo​n816! You beat your own previous record of 11 hours, 1 minute and 3 seconds (By 31 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L6[00:12:07] <MichiBot> simo​n816 has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.011 tonk points! plus 0.02 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 0.54623, Position #7 Need 0.11317944 more points to pass Ocawes​ome101!
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L10[00:32:26] <Ar​iri> %tonk
L11[00:32:27] <MichiBot> Uh-oh! Ar​iri! You beat simo​n816's previous record of <0 (By 20 minutes and 19 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L12[00:32:28] <MichiBot> Ariri's new record is 20 minutes and 19 seconds! Ariri also gained 0.00034 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #10. Need 0.04405 more points to pass Ocawes​​ome101!
L13[00:32:53] <Amanda> %choose sit or lay
L14[00:32:53] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: "sit" is for cool kids!
L15[00:33:03] <Amanda> %8ball am I a low-temp goat kitten?
L16[00:33:03] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: [ The Bowling ball doesn't answer ]
L17[00:33:09] <Amanda> That means no,
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L19[01:14:21] <Amanda> %choose while waiting for science; irradiate (EN) or irradiate (JP) or halucinate
L20[01:14:21] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: irradiate (EN) while waiting for science
L21[01:14:56] <Amanda> just need 198 more yellow
L22[01:15:06] <Amanda> and 39 more blue
L23[01:16:55] <Amanda> wait, no. 245 yellow
L24[01:16:58] <Amanda> I can math, honest
L25[01:18:03] <Amanda> soon I shall blot out the sun with my logistics robots!
L26[01:21:34] <Ar​iri> ruh rih
L27[01:21:37] <Ar​iri> ruh roh [Edited]
L28[01:41:38] <Ocawes​ome101> It’s the bad guys
L29[02:27:17] <Bri​anH> How come a vast majority of people pronounce Linksys as "Links Keys"?
L30[02:28:05] <Amanda> huh?
L31[02:28:11] <Amanda> I've never heard that
L32[02:28:24] <Amanda> I've always pronounced it link-sis
L33[02:28:32] <Bri​anH> Its somehow a very common thing I hear CONSTANTLU among people in southern states.
L34[02:28:46] <Bri​anH> Its somehow a very common thing I hear CONSTANTLY among people in southern states, as well as some around here. [Edited]
L35[02:28:52] <Bri​anH> typoes heh
L36[02:29:20] <Bri​anH> Yes but you are not an idiot.
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L38[02:55:54] <M​GR> @BrianH that's because southerners don't speak English
L39[02:56:07] <Bri​anH> Oh?
L40[02:56:11] <M​GR> ~~that was a joke~~
L41[02:56:16] <M​GR> Yes
L42[02:59:27] <M​GR> I've never heard anything other than link-sis though
L43[03:00:41] <M​GR> I'll ask a colleague next meeting and see
L44[03:00:56] <Izaya> But given americans don't speak english anyway, is that distinction necessary :^)
L45[03:01:17] <M​GR> Americans speak the only correct English
L46[03:01:48] <Izaya> not-english?
L47[03:01:51] <M​GR> English originated from New England
L48[03:01:59] <M​GR> It's obviously American
L49[03:02:11] <Izaya> Checks out
L50[03:06:22] <CompanionCube> Spanish also originates from New Mexico.
L51[03:08:11] <M​GR> Dutch comes from Pennsylvania
L52[03:27:48] <Bri​anH> ....
L53[03:27:58] <Bri​anH> what is this... 16 bit ISA to PCIe riser
L54[03:28:07] <Bri​anH> ............
L55[03:29:36] <Shado​w_8472> I'm trying to install MineOS on my in-game computer (Never mind that the server's host machine is running a different MineOS).
L56[03:30:59] <Shado​w_8472> The instructions at
L57[03:31:00] <Shado​w_8472> https://oc.cil.li/topic/711-mineos-powerful-desktop-environment-for-openos/
L58[03:31:00] <Shado​w_8472> call for running `pastebin run 0nm5b1ju`, but instead of installing, it just gives a traceback error.
L59[03:33:35] <Shado​w_8472> Never mind, I got it.
L60[03:35:00] <B​ob> the traceback is usually for pin pointing the error
L61[03:36:02] <Shado​w_8472> I didn't understand the error, but the github's direct link appears to be working.
L62[03:52:00] <Mic​hiyo> The error was that https://pastebin.com/0nm5b1ju doesn't exist
L63[03:52:18] <Shado​w_8472> Must have been deleted at some time.
L64[03:52:31] <Mic​hiyo> Oh hey... https://pastebin.com/g7y0XkJV a script for my mods doors randomly in the public pasts list
L65[03:55:16] <B​ob> global functions booo
L66[03:56:02] <B​ob> https://github.com/big-lip-bob/OCMessesAndBadCode/blob/master/Scripts/OpenSecurity/BetterKeypadThatDoesNotSuck.lua
L67[03:56:02] <B​ob> i got a damn keypad with glyphs lol, but didn't bother finish it lmao
L68[03:56:34] <Mic​hiyo> I wasn't endorsing it, just thought it was funny that a script for MY mod showed up in the random public listing
L69[03:56:35] <Mic​hiyo> lol
L70[03:56:42] <B​ob> i should go sleep, my english is as dead as i am inside
L71[03:56:52] <B​ob> pastebin has wonderfull things
L72[03:57:00] <B​ob> pastes that literally break licenses from git and stuff
L73[03:57:38] <Mic​hiyo> yeah I've clicked through them for fun before, load up one 8 new ones pop up, check them out and it spreads from there lol
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L75[03:58:05] <Mic​hiyo> also found WAY too many CC numbers, and personal info dumps
L76[03:58:06] <Mic​hiyo> lol
L77[03:58:13] <B​ob> yeah no
L78[03:58:25] <B​ob> pastebin is a wonderfull place
L79[03:59:50] <Ocawesome101> o/
L80[04:00:11] <B​ob> 7 hour rust streak
L81[04:00:56] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L82[04:00:56] <MichiBot> Wow! Compan​ionCube! You beat Ar​iri's previous record of 20 minutes and 19 seconds (By 3 hours, 8 minutes and 10 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L83[04:00:57] <MichiBot> CompanionCube's new record is 3 hours, 28 minutes and 29 seconds! CompanionCube also gained 0.00314 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need 0.0647464 more points to pass Forec​aster!
L84[04:03:43] <bad at​ vijya> pepsi mig
L85[04:06:03] <Ocawesome101> mfw kde's fonts are broken after upgrading but not rebooting
L86[04:06:28] <Ocawesome101> specifically Konversation
L87[04:06:34] <Ocawesome101> and systemsettings5 crashes x.x
L88[04:43:08] <Shado​w_8472> I don't suppose there's a nanomachines program out there to automatically try out all combinations and tell you what the good configurations for your setup are?
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L90[04:55:24] <Amanda> There's one on oppm
L91[04:55:33] <Amanda> But it doesn't persist the info
L92[04:55:57] * Amanda trips on a pile of tireds, collapsing into a pile of floof, zzzmews
L93[04:56:14] <Amanda> Night nerds
L94[04:57:15] <Ocawesome101> rounding `n` up to the nearest multiple of `x` would just be something like `result = n + (((n + x) / x) - (n / x))`, right? or is there a simpler way to do it?
L95[05:03:32] <Izaya> ... what
L96[05:03:47] <Izaya> the SE server spawns that "background intelligent transfer service" program
L97[05:03:59] <Izaya> wonder if that's SE or Torch that does ... that.
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L100[05:41:53] <Izaya> Only issue with this new design is that it's an even width.
L101[05:42:21] <Ocawesome101> two updates and a broken IRC-client font later, it is time to restart my laptop
L102[05:42:24] <Ocawesome101> bbs
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L105[06:04:32] <Ocawesome101> o/ am back
L106[06:04:39] <Ocawesome101> several desktop issues later :P
L107[06:04:42] <Ocawesome101> KDE is broken
L108[06:04:49] <Ocawesome101> so i'm using gnome for now
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L111[06:13:38] <Ocawesome101> there
L112[06:13:42] <Ocawesome101> actually back now
L113[06:15:55] <Ocawesome101> AAAAA i hate hexchat so much
L114[06:16:06] <Ocawesome101> every 10 seconds it freezes or something
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L117[06:43:40] <Forec​aster> %sip
L118[06:43:41] <MichiBot> You drink a warpy iron potion (New!). As Forecaster drinks the potion they seem to have become magnetic and an Impossible geometric shape flies towards them! They fail to evade it with a 3 vs DC 14 and takes 1d​6 => 5 damage.
L119[06:44:18] <Ocawesome101> o/ again :P
L120[06:44:23] * Ocawesome101 sighs
L121[06:44:45] <Ocawesome101> at least gnome-shell *works*, unlike kde
L122[06:44:47] <Forec​aster> Ow
L123[06:47:27] <Ocawesome101> right, time to restart xorg and see if my synaptics config works
L124[06:47:32] <Ocawesome101> brb
L125[06:47:35] <Ocawesome101> quit
L126[06:47:37] <Ocawesome101> oops
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L128[06:55:08] <Shado​w_8472> Anyone have a favorite nanomachines control program?
L129[07:35:21] <CompanionCube> %tonkout
L130[07:35:22] <MichiBot> Wut! Compan​ionCube! You beat your own previous record of 3 hours, 28 minutes and 29 seconds (By 5 minutes and 55 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L131[07:35:23] <MichiBot> Compan​ionCube has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.003 tonk points! plus 0.004 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 1.29504944, Position #2 Need 0.0577464 more points to pass Forec​aster!
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L134[08:08:17] <Saphire> %tonk
L135[08:08:18] <MichiBot> Potzblitz! Sap​hire! You beat Compan​ionCube's previous record of <0 (By 32 minutes and 55 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L136[08:08:18] <MichiBot> Saphire's new record is 32 minutes and 55 seconds! Saphire also gained 0.00055 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #27 => #23. (Overtook bauen1) Need 0.0006 more points to pass expe​rt975!
L137[08:08:27] <Saphire> Oh damn, didn't notice
L138[08:45:20] <Izaya> Ariri: https://social.shadowkat.net/media/05816bcf4db21a08abbce27a9b1ceb23063794bb5c3412502cb497d85f958376.webm
L139[08:48:46] <Ariri> Simple yet elegant, very nice
L140[08:49:30] ⇦ Quits: Izaya (~izaya@210.1.218.92) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
L141[08:49:39] <Ariri> That explains it
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L143[08:57:28] <Ariri> Welcome back
L144[08:57:34] <Izaya> Managed to DDOS myself
L145[08:57:59] <Ariri> Lol what
L146[08:58:36] <Izaya> Posted a 7MB webm on fedi
L147[08:59:13] <Ariri> Ah
L148[09:00:18] <Ariri> Holy mackarel, what: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2224635267
L149[09:00:22] <Izaya> Anyway, yeah, bigge folding solar panels
L150[09:00:40] <Izaya> wut
L151[09:00:51] <Izaya> > Safe zone block
L152[09:01:27] <Ariri> Yeah, mind boggling bug
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L154[09:05:38] <Ariri> Izaya, are you on the server still? Ive been joining since the timeout, not sure if its my computer or what
L155[09:05:54] <Izaya> Server is on my LAN so B)
L156[09:05:56] <Izaya> anyway, server is fine
L157[09:06:05] <Ariri> Ill reconn then
L158[09:08:28] <Izaya> What was the docking connector again? Door, merge block, connector?
L159[09:08:28] <Ariri> TIL the voice of Shiro from NGNL is also Darkness in Konosuba... https://www.reddit.com/r/goodanimemes/comments/irqwav/happy_33rd_birthday_ai_kayano/
L160[09:08:50] <Ariri> Izaya, connector, does system and conveyer stuff
L161[09:09:03] <Izaya> yeah I know but is that the order?
L162[09:09:33] <Ariri> I think so
L163[09:10:38] <Ariri> smh why am I dead, I was in a powered cockpit when I got dropped
L164[09:14:58] <Sap​hire> licks Izaya
L165[09:29:46] <Forec​aster> %sip
L166[09:29:47] <MichiBot> You drink a smelly stainless steel potion (New!). Forecaster turns into a turtle dragon until Sozin's Comet returns.
L167[09:34:29] <Snai​lDOS> Why hello there.
L168[09:45:10] ⇨ Joins: Natalie (webchat@071-080-196-033.res.spectrum.com)
L169[09:46:15] <Sap​hire> %sip
L170[09:46:16] <MichiBot> You drink a seeping titanium potion (New!). As Saphire drinks the potion they seem to have become magnetic and a baseball cap with the Mom's Friendly Robot Company logo on it flies towards them! They fail to evade it with a 7 vs DC 14 and takes 1d​6 => 3 damage.
L171[09:46:35] <Sap​hire> ... No
L172[09:46:45] <Snai​lDOS> %tonk
L173[09:46:45] <MichiBot> Jeepers! Snai​lDOS! You beat Sap​hire's previous record of 32 minutes and 55 seconds (By 1 hour, 5 minutes and 31 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L174[09:46:46] <MichiBot> SnailDOS's new record is 1 hour, 38 minutes and 27 seconds! SnailDOS also gained 0.00109 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #14. Need 0.00691 more points to pass Mim​iru!
L175[09:46:53] <Snai​lDOS> yay
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L177[10:35:44] <Izaya> fuckin
L178[10:35:47] <Izaya> spengies pls stop crashing
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L181[11:35:46] <asie> @SnailDOS you don't need it
L182[11:36:04] <asie> git.asie.pl is down following a failed gitea upgrade, and as I'm currently ill it will take a while for me to find time to set everything back up
L183[11:36:07] <asie> sory
L184[11:36:09] <asie> sorry*
L185[11:36:27] <asie> (but in general - it's a massive nuisance to set up lunatic86 anyway)
L186[11:38:36] <Bri​anH> @SnailDOS You know hy DOS ran like a snail?
L187[11:38:48] <Bri​anH> @SnailDOS You know why DOS ran like a snail? [Edited]
L188[11:39:48] <Snai​lDOS> OH! You are HERE in this CHAT! Well thats great to know asie, Thank you, However, wdym I don't need it, I dont have any of the files.....
L189[11:39:48] <Snai​lDOS> @BrianH No I don't... Why?
L190[11:41:13] <asie> i was referring to your YouTube comment
L191[11:41:20] <Bri​anH> It's because kernel routines were not run by jumping to them. Instead, every single call was made entirely with interrupts. This worked okay, until you nad to do a lot of them. This is why most packet drivers for doing networking on DOS with an ethernet card can only achieve about 20 KB/s even on a 3Ghz cpu.
L192[11:41:54] <asie> lunatic86 is overrated :p
L193[11:42:15] <Snai​lDOS> Oh, I sent a email too you too, I just don't have the files.. oppm install etcetc says failed to connect to your domain so.. How do i install it then?
L194[11:42:38] <Snai​lDOS> @BrianH Alright.. That makes sense lmao
L195[11:43:45] <asie> @SnailDOS you can't, because the Git server hosting the files is down with no ETA
L196[11:44:02] <asie> I just said you don't need it as it's a novelty, a "want", moreso than a "need"
L197[11:44:27] <asie> I'll probably get it back up when I'm not ill
L198[11:44:44] <asie> sorry for the trouble
L199[11:47:59] <Snai​lDOS> No problem, Thank you again for getting back to me, I hope you get well soon \:)
L200[11:53:21] <Bri​anH> Did you try turning it off and on again?
L201[11:53:21] <Bri​anH> 😄
L202[12:34:10] <Snai​lDOS> Hey... is there a draconic reactor controller?
L203[12:34:13] <Snai​lDOS> I rlly need one tbh
L204[12:39:20] <Snai​lDOS> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZ35xtFkupI&ab_channel=SarimAeyzaz
L205[12:39:20] <MichiBot> Draconic Control - Open computers program for Draconic Evolution Installation guide | length: 6m 53s | Likes: 62 Dislikes: 17 Views: 9,572 | by Sarim Aeyzaz | Published On 31/7/2017
L206[12:39:24] <Snai​lDOS> pog found one if anyone needs it
L207[12:44:37] <bad at​ vijya> bandicam
L208[12:44:40] <bad at​ vijya> more like
L209[12:44:48] <bad at​ vijya> unregistered hypercam 2
L210[13:30:36] <DaCompu​terNerd> bandicam, that's a blast from the past right there
L211[13:37:51] <Bri​anH> You know how I used to record my screen?
L212[13:39:07] <Bri​anH> We would record our computer and games and things like that if we wanted to show somebody how to do something with a very simple device
L213[13:42:55] <Bri​anH> https://hips.hearstapps.com/pop.h-cdn.co/assets/17/33/1502739103-tape-going-in.gif
L214[13:43:19] <Bri​anH> I still have one of these across the room from me
L215[13:46:15] <k00​lk4t> @BrianH bAcK iN my dAy wE usEd VhCses
L216[13:46:45] <bad at​ vijya> what
L217[13:46:57] <bad at​ vijya> vhcs?
L218[13:47:00] <Vexatos> we still have a cassette player around
L219[13:47:05] <Bri​anH> That was my reaction
L220[13:47:11] <Vexatos> although we hardly have any cassettes
L221[13:47:23] <Bri​anH> VHS tapes are actually really cool because they are 3 track in a way
L222[13:47:30] <bad at​ vijya> VHS is neat
L223[13:47:41] <Bri​anH> which allows you to store 3 tracks of data at the same time if ytou want to save files on it from your computer
L224[13:47:51] <Vexatos> I remember when I was a child we had disney's jungle book on VHS and we watched it so much it turned white
L225[13:47:53] <bad at​ vijya> kinda wanna hack a VHS player for data storage purposes
L226[13:48:00] <Bri​anH> you have two sound channels that you can store data and one high density video channel you can store a lot of data on
L227[13:48:01] <Bri​anH> a LOT
L228[13:48:02] <Vexatos> so then we bought it on DVD
L229[13:48:19] <Bri​anH> you don't even need to hack one
L230[13:48:32] <Bri​anH> just transmit / receive FSK to and from the inputs and outputs
L231[13:48:36] <Bri​anH> or QPSK, etc
L232[13:48:42] <bad at​ vijya> oh, fair
L233[13:48:55] <Vexatos> I mean these days you can get tapes made specifically for high density data storage
L234[13:49:13] <Bri​anH> I was actually looking into ways to store dumps of RAM from my homebrew computer
L235[13:49:24] <Bri​anH> and I came up with using audio casettes or VHS tapes
L236[13:49:37] <bad at​ vijya> i have VHS tapes
L237[13:49:38] <Bri​anH> its easy its simple
L238[13:50:01] <Bri​anH> just write a tiny loader program and hit play on the vcr / tape deck
L239[13:50:09] <Bri​anH> or record, if you're saving
L240[13:50:12] <Vexatos> can you still buy drives that can write to VHS tapes?
L241[13:50:45] <Bri​anH> probably, Personally, I have an adio casette deck, two of them actually for that
L242[13:50:58] <Bri​anH> it has a special cable that plugs into your computer's sound card
L243[13:51:11] <Bri​anH> one wire is motor control so it can start and stop the tape
L244[13:51:20] <Vexatos> we have an old recorder for compact cassettes
L245[13:51:20] <Bri​anH> you have to press record or play manually
L246[13:51:26] <Vexatos> like actually expensive hifi stuff
L247[13:51:34] <Bri​anH> heh
L248[13:51:42] <Bri​anH> I still have a phone line
L249[13:51:45] <Vexatos> so as long as you can transmit data over a microphone jack you can use that
L250[13:51:52] <Bri​anH> and for my answering machine I am using a taped machine
L251[13:52:08] <Bri​anH> but my machine takes full sized tapes not the mini ones
L252[13:52:16] <Vexatos> I still like cassettes for music
L253[13:52:21] <Vexatos> they are so much more robust to transport
L254[13:52:22] <Vexatos> >_>
L255[13:52:30] <Bri​anH> I have records for music
L256[13:52:50] <Bri​anH> and a CD deck from the late 80s
L257[13:53:09] <Vexatos> I mean vinyl is like getting reasonably big again
L258[13:53:16] <Vexatos> you can buy record players in mainstream stores
L259[13:53:29] <Bri​anH> I love my 80s audio technica record player
L260[13:53:30] <Vexatos> it's much more popular for analogue music than cassettes
L261[13:53:35] <Bri​anH> you wont find those in mainstream stores
L262[13:53:37] <Bri​anH> 😄
L263[13:54:33] <Vexatos> we have this hifi shop nearby of a guy who buys and refurbishes old mega expensive hardware
L264[13:54:50] <Vexatos> like the best of the best from 40 years ago type of expensive
L265[13:55:22] <Saphire> ...
L266[13:56:05] <Saphire> I just set up ipv6 for my vpn just to be able to connect irc relay client
L267[13:58:17] <Bri​anH> http://tinyurl.com/y2n6wk7e
L268[13:58:44] <bad at​ vijya> wew
L269[13:59:16] <Bri​anH> Don't worry about the 8000 watt amplifier there
L270[13:59:30] <Vexatos> I do not want to touch the electronics inside
L271[14:00:08] <Vexatos> I don't have the money for any of this
L272[14:00:14] <Vexatos> I have a €12 CD drive in my PC does that count
L273[14:01:56] <Bri​anH> The amp isnt for the CD or record player or anything
L274[14:01:58] <Bri​anH> http://tinyurl.com/y5f6wnnx
L275[14:01:59] <Bri​anH> its for this
L276[14:02:13] <Vexatos> that's large enough for a music hall
L277[14:02:39] <Vexatos> I feel bad for your ears
L278[14:02:45] <Bri​anH> They came out of a university theater house
L279[14:03:26] <Bri​anH> they are 1979 Altec Lansings
L280[14:03:47] <Vexatos> we got an old electric piano like that
L281[14:03:53] <Bri​anH> They were going to bring them outdoors and crush them with a forklift because they were in storage never used, there for backups
L282[14:03:58] <Vexatos> local choir needed a place to store it, and eventually forgot it existed
L283[14:04:02] <Bri​anH> I was like nope I'm taking them
L284[14:04:03] <Vexatos> so now I have a piano I don't need to tune
L285[14:04:30] <Vexatos> 1996 or so clavinova
L286[14:04:34] <Vexatos> better than nothing
L287[14:04:44] <Vexatos> (and quite expensive at the time actually)
L288[14:05:06] <Vexatos> electric pianos have improved a lot though
L289[14:05:19] <Bri​anH> http://tinyurl.com/yxugccke
L290[14:05:41] <Bri​anH> I was very lucky to get them in such great condition
L291[14:06:04] <Bri​anH> I don't like keyboards but they are a lot of fun
L292[14:06:29] <Vexatos> an electric piano is not a keyboard
L293[14:06:52] <Vexatos> it has proper pedals and wooden keys and dynamics like a real piano
L294[14:07:27] <Vexatos> it's basically a piano but you don't have to tune it
L295[14:07:37] <Vexatos> this one also has some presets for other instruments but noone cares about those
L296[14:08:12] <Bri​anH> I prefer to play on an actual piano.. they aren't really. . I learned in a 1930s grand chickering and the electric pianos are no where near the dynamics they say they are. I've seen the electric pianos they claim are so good. They're nice but they aren't the same
L297[14:08:26] <Vexatos> a grand piano is not a piano either
L298[14:08:48] <Vexatos> electric pianos are comparable to upright pianos
L299[14:08:56] <Vexatos> especially modern ones
L300[14:09:12] <Vexatos> the one I have is over 20 years old as I said, it's not that good but it was free so who am I to complain
L301[14:09:28] <Vexatos> I'd never have the money for an acoustic piano, especially not if I want it to stay tuned
L302[14:11:02] <Bri​anH> I had a upright one too before I lost the house, I don't know to me they are the same, every piano feels different.
L303[14:11:40] <Vexatos> acoustic pianos are very expensive to maintain since they are basically impossible to tune yourself and getting them tuned is half the cost of a new piano
L304[14:11:49] <Bri​anH> The chickering had keys made of ivory, and they had a different texture to them than the Yamaha,
L305[14:11:54] <Vexatos> I'm quite happy with an electric one
L306[14:12:40] <Bri​anH> Actually... I paid $250 to have the grand tuned by a pretty well known guy in the area,
L307[14:12:49] <Vexatos> they look weird as they are quite slim compared to acoustic upright pianos but the keyboard looks and feels just like a real one, that's like the whole point of them
L308[14:12:50] <Bri​anH> It wasn't bad
L309[14:12:57] <Vexatos> wow you must be lucky
L310[14:13:16] <Vexatos> It's usually almost a grand here
L311[14:13:22] <Bri​anH> They guy was near deaf but he was an amazing tuner
L312[14:14:18] <Bri​anH> I want a piano again but I don't want to spend money...
L313[14:14:29] <Vexatos> electric pianos are much cheaper than acoustic ones
L314[14:14:36] <Vexatos> and don't cost anything to maintain
L315[14:14:40] <Kristo​pher38> @BrianH you've got a homebrew computer?
L316[14:14:44] <Kristo​pher38> I'm interested
L317[14:15:03] <Bri​anH> I'm working on one, @Kristopher38 .
L318[14:15:08] <Bri​anH> Multi board
L319[14:16:20] <Bri​anH> The problem Vex is that it just doesnt feel the same, when you hit the keys and the hammer increases in acceleration and creates that momentum you can feel, its impossible to make it feel 100% real..
L320[14:17:16] <Bri​anH> it's kind of like how on an old car you can feel the throttle body move when you step on the gas pedal
L321[14:17:36] <Vexatos> works for me
L322[14:17:42] <Bri​anH> you can simulate it but itl never be perfect
L323[14:17:43] <Vexatos> it's either that or no piano at all
L324[14:17:51] <Bri​anH> true
L325[14:17:53] <Vexatos> and it's much preferred to no piano at all
L326[14:17:54] <Vexatos> and again
L327[14:18:03] <Vexatos> electric pianos are MUCH cheaper even if you don't get them for free by chance
L328[14:18:10] <Bri​anH> yeah
L329[14:18:19] <Bri​anH> when choosing between the cost of a car or a piano...
L330[14:18:21] <Vexatos> the top of the line is like €5000
L331[14:18:33] <Vexatos> and the €3000 ones are already very very good
L332[14:19:15] <Bri​anH> @Kristopher38 It's a multi board stack machine with TOSlink address / data bus for peripherals.
L333[14:19:22] <Bri​anH> using an RDMA Scheme
L334[14:20:57] <Bri​anH> Also, no FPGAs.
L335[14:21:08] <Bri​anH> The most complicated hardware components are CPLDs.
L336[14:21:30] <Snai​lDOS> lol I got a akai mpk play mini
L337[14:22:11] <Bri​anH> Sadly Vex I think the local music store that had electric pianos themselves is going out of business due to covid
L338[14:22:49] <Kristo​pher38> That's a lot of terms that I do not know the meaning of
L339[14:23:08] <Bri​anH> Then you might learn something
L340[14:23:09] <Snai​lDOS> Same...
L341[14:23:27] <Kristo​pher38> First, what's a TOSlink address/data bus and RDMA scheme?
L342[14:23:41] <Vexatos> toslink is a data connection type
L343[14:23:42] <Kristo​pher38> Or should I rather Google them myself?
L344[14:23:45] <Bri​anH> ok well first TOSLink is LED fiber
L345[14:23:49] <Vexatos> it's glass fibre
L346[14:24:01] <Kristo​pher38> Damn
L347[14:24:16] <Snai​lDOS> bruh
L348[14:24:17] <Vexatos> @Kristopher38 your PC probably has one of those at the back
L349[14:24:23] <Bri​anH> do they make them glass now last I knew TOSLink / SPDIF was plastic instead because of the lower bandwidth and cost
L350[14:24:26] <Vexatos> if you see a weird looking connector that is glowing red
L351[14:24:33] <Vexatos> at the back
L352[14:24:35] <Snai​lDOS> ... looks at printer cable connection
L353[14:24:39] <Kristo​pher38> Yeah, it's called spdif afaik
L354[14:24:52] <Snai​lDOS> OH I SAW THOSE BEFORE
L355[14:24:58] <Snai​lDOS> Are they old?
L356[14:25:04] <Vexatos> SPDIF is the standard running on it
L357[14:25:07] <Vexatos> the connector is TOSLINK
L358[14:25:08] <Bri​anH> They've been around, but they aren't outdated
L359[14:25:18] <Kristo​pher38> Oh I see
L360[14:25:19] <Snai​lDOS> Thought so.
L361[14:25:21] <Bri​anH> The PS2 console had them
L362[14:25:23] <Vexatos> SPDIF is a standard for transmitting digital audio data
L363[14:25:29] <Snai​lDOS> Toshiba made it lol
L364[14:25:38] <Vexatos> so you can use it to connect your PC to a DAC for example
L365[14:25:40] <Vexatos> instead of USB
L366[14:26:00] <Kristo​pher38> Yeah I've heard those are used for audio
L367[14:26:00] <Vexatos> but yes that is toslink
L368[14:26:05] <Snai​lDOS> wait toshiba died?
L369[14:26:35] <Forec​aster> it's probably bad that nearly all fans in a server are dead or near-dead except the cpu fan
L370[14:26:43] <Kristo​pher38> Why did you choose that over standard electrical connections?
L371[14:27:00] <Vexatos> @BrianH material isn't part of the standard. All cheap ones are made of plastic but those have limtied range
L372[14:27:22] <Bri​anH> 🙂 Because I have been experimenting with the idea of serial bus design instead of parallel bus design.
L373[14:27:33] <Bri​anH> Vex, right, I wouldnt think so
L374[14:27:48] <Vexatos> plastic TOSLINK dies off after a few metres
L375[14:27:59] <Bri​anH> Kris, do you know how parallel data bus systems work?
L376[14:28:00] <Vexatos> it's really not that great
L377[14:29:16] <Kristo​pher38> I know the principle, sender puts data on the bus, it signals its availability on one line, and acquire is sent on another line, or you just put your data on the bus and hope that it stabilizes before the next clock cycle
L378[14:29:34] <Forec​aster> time to roll up a new hard drive name again, this time replacing old SaphireCore (which has been misspelled for many years)
L379[14:30:02] <Kristo​pher38> And that all lines are synced up and there's no crosstalk
L380[14:30:04] <Bri​anH> @Forecaster call the new one AlphaSaphireCore or UltraSunCore?
L381[14:30:05] <Bri​anH> hahaha
L382[14:30:19] <Vexatos> @Forecaster "typoed mineral names" is a very unique naming scheme
L383[14:30:27] <Forec​aster> nope, rolling on the periodic table for a new name
L384[14:30:36] <Vexatos> Oh I can do that
L385[14:30:40] <Vexatos> I know all elements
L386[14:30:47] <Vexatos> I am a chemist after all, that's how this works right
L387[14:31:01] <Forec​aster> Vexatos hey I thought that's how Sapphire was spelled and didn't look it up
L388[14:31:11] <Vexatos> sapphire is my favourite element
L389[14:31:12] <Forec​aster> %roll d118
L390[14:31:12] <MichiBot> 20
L391[14:31:15] <Bri​anH> Kris, it's not generally crosstalk that is trhe issue on the local PCB, it's generally the inductance and capacitance that is made between wiring on different layers, I won't get into that though
L392[14:31:21] <Vexatos> calcium it is
L393[14:31:23] <Forec​aster> Calcium
L394[14:31:24] <Bri​anH> however, board to board, yes crosstalk can be an issue
L395[14:31:30] <Forec​aster> so CalciumCore
L396[14:31:40] <Vexatos> it's good for your bones
L397[14:31:48] <Forec​aster> and your data
L398[14:32:38] <Vexatos> @BrianH there is a reason serial buses won over parallel
L399[14:32:45] <Bri​anH> with my setup, peripherals are on separate boards and use one wire to communicate. The clock signal is included in the same signal that the data is.
L400[14:32:47] <Vexatos> noone wants to deal with the problems anymore
L401[14:32:55] <Bri​anH> pretty much
L402[14:33:11] <Forec​aster> I ran out of space for movies and misc on my media server, so I finally have to replace the 2TB drive with a 4TB one
L403[14:34:07] <Kristo​pher38> I think I have an idea of what you mean, because of the inductance the lines resist change of voltage?
L404[14:34:21] <Bri​anH> change in current
L405[14:34:29] <Kristo​pher38> Sorry, I'm not well educated on the topic
L406[14:34:33] <Bri​anH> capacitors resist change in voltage, inductors change in currentg
L407[14:34:34] <Bri​anH> 🙂
L408[14:34:39] <Bri​anH> but you're on the right track
L409[14:34:51] <Bri​anH> you have the right idera
L410[14:34:58] <Bri​anH> you have the right idea [Edited]
L411[14:35:30] <Kristo​pher38> Most of my knowledge on this comes from various electronics channels that I sometimes watch
L412[14:35:38] <Kristo​pher38> As in YouTube channels
L413[14:36:08] <Bri​anH> That's cool. I went to school for EE and CE combined but I also learned a lot on my own because school isnt everything
L414[14:36:19] <Kristo​pher38> Alright, so less lines means less capacitance and inductance
L415[14:36:48] <Forec​aster> now I just need to get another 4TB drive to mirror this one like I have with the tv shows
L416[14:36:57] <Xand​aros> You can learn a surprising amount by just watching youtube. But you can also learn surprisingly little.
L417[14:36:57] <Xand​aros> I think it was a year after I first heard "pull-up resistor" that I finally understood what they are actually used for
L418[14:37:17] <Bri​anH> I find books to be the best resource for me
L419[14:37:30] <Xand​aros> Considering what a simple concept that is, it does make me question the viability of learning things this way 😄
L420[14:38:04] <Vexatos> capacitance is something you get simply by having any two pieces of metal near each other
L421[14:38:38] <Forec​aster> or another capacitive material
L422[14:38:40] <Forec​aster> like a person
L423[14:38:48] <Kristo​pher38> I feel like the best educational content is hidden in books, while on the internet everyone can publish something (and that's great), books are usually written by experts on the topic
L424[14:38:51] <Vexatos> yea
L425[14:39:46] <Forec​aster> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbHBHhZOglw
L426[14:39:46] <MichiBot> The touch lamp; a neat idea, and older than you'd think! | length: 17m 24s | Likes: 24,616 Dislikes: 172 Views: 264,467 | by Technology Connections | Published On 12/9/2020
L427[14:40:08] <Kristo​pher38> Anyway, so with a fiber connection you electrically isolate all boards, right?
L428[14:41:11] <Bri​anH> yep. That's how it communicates with peripherals, be ity another cpu board or a UART for Serial communication or some fancy dancy LED hobby board or whatever you want
L429[14:41:59] <Kristo​pher38> Next thing on the list was uhh
L430[14:42:04] <Kristo​pher38> RDMA scheme
L431[14:42:15] <Bri​anH> So do you know what DMA is?
L432[14:42:27] <Izaya> BrianH: been thinking I should do a processor out of EPROM chips
L433[14:42:33] <Kristo​pher38> Yeah
L434[14:42:45] <Bri​anH> that would be extremely high latency Izaya
L435[14:43:01] <Bri​anH> good EEPROMs sometimes have a fetch latency of at least 20ns
L436[14:43:08] <Izaya> not EEPROM
L437[14:43:11] <Izaya> EPROM
L438[14:43:21] <Bri​anH> oh I saw too many Es lol
L439[14:44:04] <Bri​anH> so my system uses DMA for everything inter board communication.
L440[14:44:19] <Izaya> a few EPROMs and a register file and you have yourself a processor /o/
L441[14:44:36] <Bri​anH> however it behaves much more like a DMA network, so I basically refer to it as RDMA, as it can be controlled remotely between boards , if you have a multi cpu setup, etc
L442[14:44:39] <Vexatos> is it DMA over toslink?
L443[14:45:12] <Bri​anH> yeah so the DMA circuitry uses the fiber as its medium to communicate with other DMA hosts
L444[14:46:08] <Bri​anH> they have a mini protocol for talking to eachother so that two DMA hosts can agree to copy large portions of memory or sequences of memory from one location to another
L445[14:46:34] <Bri​anH> each DMA host can be either a slave or a master at any given time
L446[14:47:03] <Snai​lDOS> If anyone wants to read about this, this is opencomputers btw, I have so much power its not even funny I actually want to build like a "super" server. Is there any code that links computers with computers? Or something... idk.. Any projects to do? With servers?
L447[14:47:09] <Wat​tana> anyone here have experiences coding in Vala?
L448[14:47:18] <Wat​tana> I need some help loading a binary file into a struct
L449[14:47:20] <Snai​lDOS> Vala? Never heard of it.
L450[14:47:21] <Bri​anH> I've even considered combining DMA hosts to be kind of "multi core" you could call it and use two fiber cables for full duplex, but I don't see an advantage in doing this
L451[14:47:23] <Amanda> Ages ago, yes
L452[14:47:28] <Amanda> never got much into it though
L453[14:47:30] <Izaya> that's the Gtk scripting language innit?
L454[14:47:43] <Wat​tana> > that's the Gtk scripting language innit?
L455[14:47:43] <Wat​tana> I think
L456[14:47:55] <Amanda> Izaya: transpiles into GObject-flavoured C, then compiled, yup
L457[14:48:15] <Kristo​pher38> @BrianH damn, that's pretty elegant solution
L458[14:48:31] <Vexatos> @BrianH do you have anything functional yet
L459[14:48:34] <Kristo​pher38> From an inexperienced person's view at least :D
L460[14:49:12] <Wat​tana> I have this part of code to load the content of the file chosen in a dialog but idk how to load it into a structCode Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/odilificuc
L461[14:49:16] <Bri​anH> Not yet, I have some kicad designs half laid out for various things but I have good news: I've been writing an emulator for it in Elixir as of a week or so ago to prototype the logic at a mid level
L462[14:49:48] <Bri​anH> I'm going to be presenting it for my makerspace group
L463[14:49:53] <Izaya> erlang would be mildly cursed in all the right ways for circuit emulation
L464[14:50:17] <Bri​anH> I just know Elixir's syntax better
L465[14:50:40] <Izaya> I'm just thinking the whole architecute of the erlang VM
L466[14:50:47] <Bri​anH> yeah
L467[14:51:10] <Vexatos> we don't even have anything like a makerspace here
L468[14:51:43] <Kristo​pher38> I wish to build a homebrew computer one day, but I lack some practical experience and money, and therefore proper equipment and parts
L469[14:53:01] <Bri​anH> Kris, the main board cosists of the CPU which is on a CPLD and various other support circuitry, of course you have your timing circuitry too etc, and SRAM for local memory. I haven't decided how much. another CPLD is used for MMU/DMA, which has its own SRAM chip to hold its config, and then theres the buffer as well for messaging on the peripheral bus
L470[14:53:39] <Bri​anH> it's more event driven than IRQ drive, but the local board does have IRQs.
L471[14:54:12] <Izaya> what if OpenComputers style events as interrupts
L472[14:54:32] <Bri​anH> heh
L473[14:54:38] <Bri​anH> you could simulate that
L474[14:55:06] <Izaya> I'm thinking like, each interrupt has an x byte buffer to pass data
L475[14:55:21] <Izaya> you have a FIFO of interrupts
L476[14:55:36] <Bri​anH> that's kind of how it works, which is why I needed DMA.
L477[14:55:43] <Izaya> ah that makes sense
L478[14:55:57] <Izaya> rather than the processor having a mailbox hardware can DMA stuff into an event queue?
L479[14:56:13] <Snai​lDOS> I need something to do with oc
L480[14:56:38] <Snai​lDOS> I already downloaded almost every program and tested them.. OH! I should rate them actuallyy.
L481[14:56:40] <Snai​lDOS> I already downloaded almost every program and tested them.. OH! I should rate them actually. [Edited]
L482[14:56:41] <Izaya> figure out robot-based autocrafting
L483[14:56:54] <Vexatos> cruor and I did that last december
L484[14:56:54] <Bri​anH> ^
L485[14:56:56] <Vexatos> that was fun
L486[14:57:00] <Izaya> Vexatos: do tell
L487[14:57:00] <Snai​lDOS> The only thing I think I haven't done is tested lunatic..
L488[14:57:03] <Snai​lDOS> wtf
L489[14:57:09] <Snai​lDOS> robot based auto crafting
L490[14:57:15] <Snai​lDOS> wht......
L491[14:57:15] <Izaya> I found out OCDevices has a recipe databse you can allow to just look up any recipe
L492[14:57:16] <Bri​anH> I'm still going over fine details of the DMA and event handling
L493[14:57:23] <Snai​lDOS> like.. a robot auto crafting?
L494[14:57:32] <Bri​anH> It has to be simple enough to work out with a limited ammount of hardware
L495[14:57:34] <Snai​lDOS> ye but it doesn't have the code lol
L496[14:57:49] <Izaya> so I guess my horrid several MB compressed recipe database is redundant
L497[14:58:05] <Snai​lDOS> Oh while I am here, can i link up servers with servers using wireless cards? or use disk space as memory?
L498[14:58:09] <Izaya> though I use that code for mounting compressed archives now so it's not a total loss
L499[14:58:14] <Vexatos> Izaya, cruor got tired of crafting OC components so we wrote a bot that does it for us. We fill it with base components like redstone dust and iron ingots, and tell it to craft a thing by name, and it crafts it recursively all the way there after checking that it has all the basic resources
L500[14:58:58] <Snai​lDOS> what where is that
L501[14:59:04] <Snai​lDOS> where do you find all this stuff??
L502[14:59:07] <Izaya> Vexatos: I exported all the recipes with CraftDumper then compressed them into a dodgy database format and did basically the same
L503[14:59:10] <Snai​lDOS> I am missing out lol
L504[14:59:11] <Vexatos> we played for like 20 days but the server at the end was quite advanced tbh. We had autocrafting with robots, autosmelting with drones, and a drone running our sorting system
L505[14:59:18] <Vexatos> @SnailDOS we coded it ourselves
L506[15:00:05] <Snai​lDOS> Was it uploaded anywhere..? Out of curiosity.
L507[15:00:15] <Vexatos> all the drones only had a code ID in the data part of the EEPROM and a generic bootloader in the code part, on boot it would contact a central server with the ID, and the server would send the code with that filename back for it to load
L508[15:00:15] <Snai​lDOS> That's pretty fricken awsome I must say
L509[15:00:27] <Forec​aster> I figured out robot autocrafting back during my 1.7.10 letsplay, for my ic2 reactor
L510[15:00:27] <Snai​lDOS> LMAO thats AWSOME
L511[15:00:30] <Vexatos> so we could edit all our smelting drones at once by editing the version on the server
L512[15:00:49] <Vexatos> which was standing like 10 blocks away
L513[15:00:51] <Izaya> Vexatos: I had issues with my autocrafting stalling
L514[15:00:58] <Bri​anH> @Kristopher38 The other major component is interconnecting lots of components. To do this a specialized DMA host sits on its own board with channelized IO. The design of my DMA I've been working on an idea of a frame relay (kind of like a T1) sort of setup, where the number of channels transmitting is dynamic every frame.
L515[15:00:59] <Izaya> it'd get stuck in a loop and I never figured out why
L516[15:01:24] <Izaya> also I was handling it all from one machine and using the robot's components over RPC because I hate things being fast
L517[15:01:27] <Vexatos> Izaya, the way we taught it recipes was by placing the recipe and its result into the robot in the right pattern
L518[15:01:28] <Bri​anH> this allows multiple CPUs and peripherals to intercommunicate seemingly at the same time
L519[15:01:33] <Vexatos> and then running a command
L520[15:01:35] <Vexatos> it'd learn the recipe
L521[15:01:39] <Vexatos> and then it could replicate it
L522[15:01:45] <Izaya> yeah that makes sense
L523[15:02:09] <Vexatos> no cheating like ocdevices
L524[15:02:12] <Izaya> I was thinking I'd figure out the recipe db component API then make a vcomponent that doesn't need the item
L525[15:02:20] <Vexatos> OC was our only content mod
L526[15:02:31] <Forec​aster> I just entered mine in manually cause it was just a handful of reactor fuel items
L527[15:02:35] <Vexatos> (and pixelmon for some reason, that was cool)
L528[15:02:36] <Izaya> Vexatos: I went with craftdumper when I did it because I'm lazy
L529[15:03:15] <Bri​anH> With that said Kris you can probably tell that the DMA CPLDs run a LOT faster than the CPU does
L530[15:03:42] <Bri​anH> If I can achieve a working model with the CPU running at 2Mhz, I will be satisfied.
L531[15:04:09] <Snai​lDOS> Vexatos, Out of interest is it open source? I am interested lol.
L532[15:04:22] <Vexatos> of course it is, just hack into our minecraft server to get it
L533[15:04:25] <Bri​anH> As long as I can run instructions at least 40Khz I will be satisfied. my design already does any ionstruction in under 3 main clock cycles
L534[15:04:31] <Snai​lDOS> lmao
L535[15:04:52] <Vexatos> we also found multiple bugs in cruor's midi player on that server
L536[15:04:56] <Vexatos> so that's much better now
L537[15:05:01] <Vexatos> (please use the sound card)
L538[15:05:40] <Forec​aster> mine is on my GitLab
L539[15:06:10] <Vexatos> we also had a robot without a screen or keyboard but an upgrade container consuming enchantments from an enchanted book farm
L540[15:06:15] <Forec​aster> https://gitlab.theender.net/Forecaster/OC-programs/-/blob/master/plutonium.lua
L541[15:06:28] <Vexatos> to level XP upgrades
L542[15:06:32] <Vexatos> so we could have high level mining robots
L543[15:06:47] <Vexatos> it didn't even have a hard drive
L544[15:06:55] <Vexatos> the code ran on the EEPROM
L545[15:07:00] <Izaya> I really need to write an "export all components" RPC thingo for embedded devices
L546[15:07:02] <Snai​lDOS> dude
L547[15:07:04] <Snai​lDOS> your mental
L548[15:07:08] <Izaya> having to customise stuff every time is a pain >.>
L549[15:07:13] <Snai​lDOS> how much is on a eeprom.. all i know is nothing
L550[15:07:20] <Snai​lDOS> * is its nothing
L551[15:07:24] <Izaya> it'd be nice if I could just say "slap everything into the RPC table"
L552[15:07:27] <Vexatos> EEPROM can fit 4096 characters
L553[15:07:34] <Izaya> 4096 bytes
L554[15:08:13] <Snai​lDOS> my golly god
L555[15:09:01] <Izaya> fwiw, you can quite happily fit a small OS with networking and a vfs into that
L556[15:09:08] <Vexatos> I wrote a version of flash.lua that flashed to the data bytes of the EEPROM instead of the code bytes
L557[15:09:15] <Vexatos> because we were using that extensively
L558[15:09:24] <Snai​lDOS> What the actual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBxUO9WC2So&ab_channel=DRNeoFrOoTY
L559[15:09:24] <MichiBot> Fly around Minecraft (World Record 1 Year) | length: 0 milliseconds | Likes: 57 Dislikes: 3 Views: 250 | by DRNeoFrOoTY | Published On 13/9/2020
L560[15:09:30] <Snai​lDOS> I just got recommend this... uhm...
L561[15:09:32] <Vexatos> all drones ran the same bootloader but the data part determined which code it loaded
L562[15:09:46] <Snai​lDOS> I wonder if this kid will do it, in 356 days.
L563[15:09:53] <Vexatos> a lot of stuff youc an do
L564[15:10:05] <Vexatos> if you want to
L565[15:10:33] <Vexatos> we used microcontrollers for high speed item transport
L566[15:10:40] <Amanda> @SNailDOS those are just clickbait spam videos, I believe. I've seen lots of those in my recommendations. "World Record" "Every like makes X go faster!"
L567[15:10:41] <Snai​lDOS> my lord
L568[15:10:48] <Izaya> cursed conduits?
L569[15:10:50] <Vexatos> dumping items between a buffer chest and our sorting system
L570[15:10:54] <Snai​lDOS> It would make sense
L571[15:10:57] <Vexatos> no we had very simple item pipes
L572[15:10:59] <Snai​lDOS> last streams 5.6k views..
L573[15:11:11] <Snai​lDOS> sub count off...
L574[15:11:28] <Snai​lDOS> HE STARTED THIS YEAR.. Yep, clickbait.
L575[15:11:42] <Bri​anH> I'm waiting for the game to crash on that 1 year fly over at day 364
L576[15:11:49] <Snai​lDOS> LMAO
L577[15:11:54] <Snai​lDOS> Imagine if it did.
L578[15:12:03] <Snai​lDOS> Imagine if it crashed now
L579[15:12:04] <Amanda> @BrianH it'll probably only be up for a day or two, then disapear into the ether
L580[15:12:24] <Bri​anH> I find it weird it only has 60 something likes
L581[15:12:27] <Forec​aster> Far lands or bust
L582[15:12:43] <Snai​lDOS> Started 20 mins ago.
L583[15:12:50] <Vexatos> man the server was nice
L584[15:13:04] <Vexatos> Cruor, the server is still alive, right? wonder if we can play this december too :P
L585[15:13:07] <Snai​lDOS> No one said its fake so thonk
L586[15:13:10] <Snai​lDOS> oh ye farlands lol
L587[15:13:12] <Izaya> Vexatos: if mine wasn't an unstable mess I'd invite you to mine
L588[15:13:23] <Snai​lDOS> Alright so... Any server stuff to do? on my OC server?
L589[15:13:26] <Snai​lDOS> Just for fun?
L590[15:13:59] <Izaya> Vexatos: maybe you can come up wiht some suitably cursed ideas for me
L591[15:14:07] <Izaya> what could I do with 800MB of space in OC?
L592[15:14:09] <Vexatos> step 1 find annoying thing
L593[15:14:12] <Vexatos> step 2 make robot do it
L594[15:14:16] <Vexatos> that's it
L595[15:14:17] <Forec​aster> make two computers fight with swords
L596[15:14:22] <Snai​lDOS> step 3 i dont even know lua
L597[15:14:30] <Snai​lDOS> lmao
L598[15:14:31] <Izaya> that sounds like a step 0
L599[15:14:36] <Snai​lDOS> Tbh im lazy.
L600[15:14:45] <Snai​lDOS> I will... learn it.. la.. later.
L601[15:14:54] <Forec​aster> good luck with that
L602[15:14:59] <Snai​lDOS> l a t e r
L603[15:15:09] <Snai​lDOS> I'll just get a book.
L604[15:15:12] <Snai​lDOS> Learn the basics
L605[15:15:16] <Snai​lDOS> Then learn oc api
L606[15:15:21] <Snai​lDOS> Can it be that hard?
L607[15:15:25] <Snai​lDOS> Is indenting hard?
L608[15:15:36] <Izaya> just :set autoindent in vim
L609[15:15:43] <Snai​lDOS> Do I even HAVE to indent..? omg sorry for the flood I need to stop this habit
L610[15:16:01] <Vexatos> you can write all of lua in a single line if you want
L611[15:16:04] <Vexatos> not recommended
L612[15:16:11] <Snai​lDOS> loL
L613[15:16:13] <Forec​aster> you can write an entire program on one line
L614[15:16:19] <Snai​lDOS> You don;t need to compile it..
L615[15:16:21] <Snai​lDOS> do you..
L616[15:16:38] <Snai​lDOS> i assume not
L617[15:16:47] <Snai​lDOS> :GWseremePeepoGGERS: you don't!
L618[15:16:52] <Snai​lDOS> LOL im learning this asap
L619[15:17:00] <Snai​lDOS> what about gui? that hard?
L620[15:17:06] <Bri​anH> lol suddenly I imagine snailDOS as if they went from python to Lua. "Wait, you mean indentation is optional?! Yeah, because Lua doesn't suck"
L621[15:17:06] <Bri​anH> lol
L622[15:17:15] <Vexatos> GUI? GUIs are like
L623[15:17:16] <Vexatos> 1995
L624[15:17:18] <Vexatos> get with the times
L625[15:17:26] <Vexatos> you use high quality terminal menus
L626[15:17:36] <Snai​lDOS> python is shetty
L627[15:17:42] <Snai​lDOS> wery i donut like
L628[15:18:00] <Snai​lDOS> t e r m i n a l m e n u s yay
L629[15:18:13] <Amanda> Vexatos: you mean holographic wall-sized monitors, right?
L630[15:18:16] <Vexatos> remind me to write an API for high quality terminal menus
L631[15:18:17] <Bri​anH> Get with the times. http://tinyurl.com/y6xfnhvc
L632[15:18:19] <Snai​lDOS> I remember writing batch programs... ages ago on like win xp idek
L633[15:18:27] <Amanda> with popups every second as your hacking goes on
L634[15:18:40] <Snai​lDOS> what the actual is that a magnetic tape or what the hell is that
L635[15:18:43] <Vexatos> <https://docs.julialang.org/en/v1/stdlib/REPL/#TerminalMenus-1&gt;
L636[15:18:50] <Vexatos> stuff like this is pretty
L637[15:18:54] <Forec​aster> %remindthem Vexatos 30w write an api for high quality terminal menus
L638[15:18:54] <MichiBot> I'll remind Vexatos about "write an api for high quality terminal menus" at 04/11/2021 02:18:53 PM
L639[15:18:59] <Amanda> Just grab all these database resilts, and fling them overr to your partner's monitor!
L640[15:19:03] <Snai​lDOS> print("lol") <-- this lua? would this work?
L641[15:19:04] <Izaya> > 5100
L642[15:19:10] <Vexatos> %lua print("hi")
L643[15:19:11] <MichiBot> hi
L644[15:19:11] <Izaya> where the fuck did you get one of those
L645[15:19:21] <Snai​lDOS> % ????
L646[15:19:24] <Snai​lDOS> nvm [Edited]
L647[15:19:37] <Snai​lDOS> i see. that makes sense
L648[15:19:41] <Snai​lDOS> so it is kinda easy...
L649[15:19:48] <Vexatos> %lua print("this is really not hard to use")
L650[15:19:48] <MichiBot> this is really not hard to use
L651[15:20:00] <Snai​lDOS> k i n d a e a s y please remind me I said this later
L652[15:20:03] <Snai​lDOS> how about sleep?
L653[15:20:20] <Snai​lDOS> oc.sleep(1) ?
L654[15:20:20] <Vexatos> @BrianH
L655[15:20:26] <Vexatos> that thing is heckin nice
L656[15:20:27] <Bri​anH> ?
L657[15:20:33] <Vexatos> is that yours
L658[15:20:40] <Vexatos> because if so how the hell did you get one
L659[15:20:49] <Bri​anH> That' snot mine I googled it as a joke. I instead are left with a Coco2 instead
L660[15:21:01] <Vexatos> smh
L661[15:21:06] <Snai​lDOS> smh
L662[15:21:06] <Vexatos> old IBM PCs are heckin nice
L663[15:21:10] <Snai​lDOS> disapointed
L664[15:21:16] <Snai​lDOS> yes i cannot spell y e y
L665[15:21:26] <Vexatos> remember when PC meant portable computer
L666[15:21:32] <Snai​lDOS> Still curious about sleeping.. ..?
L667[15:21:43] <Bri​anH> I have one of these instead: http://tinyurl.com/y5bn2wfg
L668[15:21:52] <Snai​lDOS> thonk
L669[15:21:53] <Bri​anH> I have two of them actually
L670[15:22:00] <Snai​lDOS> mega thonk
L671[15:22:02] <Vexatos> the one in the picture is German too, hah
L672[15:22:12] <Bri​anH> The IBM is german?
L673[15:22:15] <Vexatos> yes
L674[15:22:28] <Bri​anH> go find him and grab it
L675[15:22:28] <Bri​anH> 😄
L676[15:22:48] <Vexatos> we actually still have an HPLC column at work
L677[15:22:56] <Vexatos> that runs on something only slightly younger than this
L678[15:23:11] <Snai​lDOS> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/laracusazo
L679[15:23:15] <Snai​lDOS> what this do?
L680[15:23:17] <Vexatos> a 5" CRT screen and a keypad with like 20 buttons
L681[15:23:20] <Snai​lDOS> sleep.. for how long?
L682[15:23:26] <Vexatos> you program the solvent gradient on that
L683[15:23:39] <Bri​anH> talk about people who hack on older hardware... does anyone know whatever happened to Grueskoph?
L684[15:23:41] <Forec​aster> that would probably error because it takes an argument in seconds
L685[15:24:13] <Vexatos> and it prints the signal with a needle kind of like a seismometer
L686[15:24:15] <Vexatos> it's so weird
L687[15:24:27] <Bri​anH> Last I heard he was trying to get PCIe working on an amiga or something
L688[15:24:45] <Amanda> NSA TEXT MESSAGE DATABASE V2.3
L689[15:24:59] <Forec​aster> %sip
L690[15:24:59] <MichiBot> You drink a fragrant ocean potion (New!). Forecaster gains the ability to talk to Cats until Sozin's Comet returns.
L691[15:25:08] <Forec​aster> hey amanda
L692[15:25:17] <Amanda> hey @forevastee
L693[15:25:26] <Vexatos> hmm
L694[15:25:26] <Amanda> Close enough
L695[15:26:04] <Forec​aster> @covfefe
L696[15:28:10] <Amanda> Oh, I see how
L697[15:28:13] <Amanda> Now*
L698[15:28:39] <Amanda> Not that hard to talk to me, really
L699[15:29:15] <Bri​anH> @SnailDOS At some point my OS will be available for OC, in working form, you should check it out then, you may like it for managing components
L700[15:29:29] <Bri​anH> large numbers of them, inparticulat
L701[15:29:35] <Bri​anH> large numbers of them, inparticular [Edited]
L702[15:29:53] <Amanda> If a fox like Inari can speak cat, there's plenty of hope for the higher races like humans to learn the advanced cat language
L703[15:30:08] <Inari> %splash Amanda
L704[15:30:09] <MichiBot> Inari flings a shimmering violium potion (New!) that splashes onto Amanda. Amanda gains a negligible amount of luck.
L705[15:30:15] <Inari> psh
L706[15:30:19] <Amanda> :3
L707[15:30:50] <Ocawes​ome101> @SnailDOS have you tried Monolith and/or Fuchas and/or PsychOS 2?
L708[15:34:29] <Forec​aster> %splash Inari
L709[15:34:29] <MichiBot> Forecaster flings a cloudy rock potion (New!) that splashes onto Inari. Inari turns into a solarium toad boy until someone baps them.
L710[15:35:03] <Amanda> @Forecaster also, random potion effect idea: "<user>'s home water line is somehow replaced with <random potion> instead."
L711[15:35:25] <Amanda> I'd submit a PR for it, but I've been lazy and distracted by my factory
L712[15:35:42] <Forec​aster> doesn't really work though since potions change constantly
L713[15:36:33] <Forec​aster> and it's not like MichiBot is rationing potions in any way :P
L714[15:36:36] <Bri​anH> @Ocawesome101 dont forget plan9k
L715[15:36:55] <Ocawes​ome101> Oh yeah lol
L716[15:37:09] <Ocawes​ome101> P9k is sorta weird and sorta buggy tbh
L717[15:39:23] <Kristo​pher38> @BrianH sorry I left the discussion, family called
L718[15:40:06] <Bri​anH> Heh you have no obligation to listen to my crap don't worry
L719[15:40:51] <Kristo​pher38> I was the one who asked you in the first place tho
L720[15:41:26] <Bri​anH> Just so you know I'll be open sourcing the hardware
L721[15:41:32] <Bri​anH> it will be available as a kicad project
L722[15:41:48] <Bri​anH> or collection of them rather
L723[15:50:41] <Kristo​pher38> Your idea for seemingly parallel transfer is nice
L724[15:51:19] <Kristo​pher38> Sorry i can't say anything more, you're just on a higher power level :P
L725[15:51:45] <Bri​anH> It was basically a solution for allowing say one cpu board to communicate with say a VGA output peripheral at the same time sound was being transferred to some sort of DAC.
L726[15:53:26] <Kristo​pher38> Oh right, that's certainly a concern
L727[15:53:42] <Bri​anH> the main board will only have like two ports
L728[15:53:48] <Bri​anH> perhaps one
L729[15:54:18] <Bri​anH> so in the middle there are specialized DMA hosts for routing that kind of information so that one main board coule communicate with several peripherals remotely
L730[15:58:12] <Bri​anH> The one problem I've been having is how to address peripherals
L731[15:58:33] <Bri​anH> One way to do it is to use a 16 bit peripheral ID
L732[15:59:16] <Bri​anH> It would allow for up to 65536 peripherals
L733[15:59:29] <Kristo​pher38> That would require some sort of setup on the PCB or in software, right?
L734[15:59:44] <Bri​anH> that, or use a DIP switch design to let you manually set each one
L735[15:59:54] <Bri​anH> memory mapped
L736[16:00:09] <Kristo​pher38> Oh right, or one of those
L737[16:00:20] <Bri​anH> I could however do something a bit more special
L738[16:01:25] <Bri​anH> I could make it so that every peripheral board had a basic EEPROM with firmware on it that controls the DMA host on the peripheral board. In that, a hardware type could be referenced. I could make that 8 bit, and then have an 8 bit dip switch. This way, you ONLY need to touch the dip switch if you had two or more of the same peripheral
L739[16:01:47] <Bri​anH> I could also make it autoconfigure one, maaaaaybe.
L740[16:02:05] <Bri​anH> that would require some more complex logic.
L741[16:03:00] <Bri​anH> the way this would work is that it would "Scan" for anything with the same hardware type ID
L742[16:03:15] <Bri​anH> checks only need a simple bitwise AND and XNOR
L743[16:04:15] <Bri​anH> since there would only be 256 of those it wouldn't take too long
L744[16:04:30] <Kristo​pher38> So some sort of partial autoconfiguration
L745[16:04:42] <Bri​anH> again this requires a significant more ammount of logic
L746[16:05:09] <Bri​anH> Ever used a multitap for a playstation?
L747[16:05:29] <Kristo​pher38> I would personally try to not overcomplicate things
L748[16:05:41] <Kristo​pher38> Sadly never owned a playstation
L749[16:05:46] <Bri​anH> http://tinyurl.com/y45pwk99
L750[16:05:51] <Bri​anH> Oh crap wrong picture
L751[16:05:53] <Bri​anH> nevbermind that
L752[16:06:11] <Kristo​pher38> I'm gonna get that one as well
L753[16:06:13] <Kristo​pher38> ;)
L754[16:06:33] <Bri​anH> http://tinyurl.com/y6folo86
L755[16:06:36] <Ko​dos> %tonk
L756[16:06:37] <MichiBot> Yay! Ko​dos! You beat Snai​lDOS's previous record of 1 hour, 38 minutes and 27 seconds (By 4 hours, 41 minutes and 23 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L757[16:06:37] <MichiBot> Kodos's new record is 6 hours, 19 minutes and 51 seconds! Kodos also gained 0.00938 (0.00469 x 2) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #8. Need 0.04985 more points to pass simo​n816!
L758[16:06:42] <Bri​anH> so far io works kind of like these
L759[16:06:54] <Bri​anH> you daisy chain the DMA hosts together
L760[16:06:59] <Bri​anH> it makes a star network
L761[16:07:30] <Bri​anH> the more chains you make the more latency
L762[16:10:23] <Kristo​pher38> O gosh I can imagine that
L763[16:11:54] <Kristo​pher38> As far as my projects go, I want to make a game for more than 2 people for the c64 and the way it would work is you'd have multiple c64s connected together through the user port
L764[16:13:04] <Kristo​pher38> Since I now own two of those I want to write some fancy stuff only allowed when there are 2 machines available
L765[16:13:26] <Bri​anH> I can't speak for the c64, but make sure that it's capable of IRQ on that port
L766[16:13:40] <Bri​anH> on the TRS-80 Icoco I showed you a picture of I have, there are none and you have to bitbang it
L767[16:13:54] <Bri​anH> jmaking it unsuitable for something like that in most cases
L768[16:14:14] <Kristo​pher38> Hmm, let me see
L769[16:14:31] <Bri​anH> I have only ever talked to the graphics registers of a c64
L770[16:14:52] <Bri​anH> By the way, the current way my DMA system communicates over fiber is like this: http://tinyurl.com/y3v68pn8
L771[16:14:55] <Bri​anH> you may recognize it
L772[16:15:05] <Bri​anH> this is how I can avoid a clock signal
L773[16:15:44] <Kristo​pher38> Don't know how it's called but I see how it works
L774[16:16:10] <Bri​anH> it's the same method used for n64 controllers, and also some RGB LED strips
L775[16:16:27] <Izaya> haven't looked but I'm guessing commodore serial bus
L776[16:16:29] <Izaya> oh
L777[16:16:41] <Kristo​pher38> It synchronizes on the rising/falling edges, and the pulse length is modulated to signify 0/1
L778[16:16:46] <Bri​anH> yep
L779[16:16:58] <Bri​anH> no clock wire needed
L780[16:17:37] <Bri​anH> if you reset the clock counter every falling edge, then the distance between a 1 and a 0 or whatnot can be infinite
L781[16:18:26] <Bri​anH> this allows you to slow the bit rate down if you wish without slowing down the transfer rate
L782[16:18:31] <Bri​anH> 🙂
L783[16:19:11] <Bri​anH> well, not the transfer rate, but without slowing down the rate in which the clock that transmits bits is handled
L784[16:19:52] <Bri​anH> only the transmitter needs to slow down, the receiver will always run as fast as the sender without negotiating the speed
L785[16:23:16] <Bri​anH> to allow for fine tuning of performance, there are multiplexers with multiple clock signals available.
L786[16:23:52] <Bri​anH> you could use a 12 Mhz crystal and set the clock divider register to 1250 to achieve 9600 baud for example.
L787[16:26:43] <Bri​anH> I wish they made these with the smaller form factor built in
L788[16:26:45] <Bri​anH> https://www.jameco.com/z/2001-2X7-4CP-Machine-Tooled-4-Pin-Full-Can-Crystal-Oscillator-Socket_133006.html
L789[16:27:43] <Bri​anH> guess its no bug deal to get the 14 pin ones
L790[16:28:20] <Inari> I wouldn't generally trade in bugs either
L791[16:29:04] <Bri​anH> Oh hello Inari
L792[16:29:18] <Inari> Ohi
L793[16:33:50] <Bri​anH> TIL walmart sells components. wut?
L794[16:33:51] <Bri​anH> https://www.walmart.com/ip/100x-Variable-Resistor-SMD-Trimmer-Pot-Potentiometer-200-Ohm/109852573?wmlspartner=wmtlabs&adid=22222222222070764445&wmlspartner=wmtlabs&wl0=e&wl1=o&wl2=c&wl3=10393785601&wl4=pla-1105737155501:aud-807612879&wl12=109852573_10000000599&wl14=smd%20potentiometer&veh=sem&msclkid=02c459b1e07b1dffb0c406efdbe57b0a
L795[16:33:57] <Bri​anH> must be a private seller
L796[16:34:22] <Bri​anH> why would you though
L797[16:37:32] <Kristo​pher38> Alright, found what I was looking for
L798[16:38:01] <Bri​anH> oh?
L799[16:38:03] <Kristo​pher38> There's an interrupt generated on the CIA chip if serial port goes full/empty
L800[16:38:17] <Bri​anH> that's useful
L801[16:38:45] <Kristo​pher38> And when the FLAG line is active (?)
L802[16:38:50] <Bri​anH> does the C64 have any sort of IRQ controller or is it just straight up IRQ fires and you have to go searching for wth happened
L803[16:39:50] <Kristo​pher38> Irq fires and you need to look into specific memory-mapped registers on various chips to find out which interrupt fired by checking a bitmask
L804[16:40:21] <Bri​anH> ok....hmm
L805[16:40:29] <Bri​anH> though the CIA may use an NMI?
L806[16:40:42] <Bri​anH> if it does you're in luck
L807[16:41:30] <Bri​anH> You know, if it werent for one of my coworkers getting the same day off a year or two ago, I was supposed to meet Chuck Peddle?
L808[16:42:23] <Bri​anH> he was doing a presentation at the university here and I was all set and planned to attend and have a word with him. Unfortunately, he died months afterwards, and I never got to see him.
L809[16:43:01] <Bri​anH> In retrospect, I should have just called out
L810[16:44:09] <Bri​anH> Kris, if you don't know who Chuck Peddle is, he invented the 6502
L811[16:45:12] <Kristo​pher38> Oh damn
L812[16:45:26] <Kristo​pher38> Invented as in?
L813[16:45:54] <Bri​anH> he designed the 6502 to be a $25 counter chip to compete with Motorola's $300 68000.
L814[16:46:38] <Bri​anH> we was primary designer of the chip's architecture
L815[16:46:59] <Bri​anH> he*
L816[16:47:36] <Bri​anH> He was born in my area and went to the same university I did
L817[16:47:42] <Bri​anH> for the same program, heh
L818[16:47:59] <Kristo​pher38> Damn, so sad you weren't able to meet him 😦
L819[16:48:04] <Bri​anH> yeah it sucked
L820[16:48:11] <Bri​anH> I am still mad to this day
L821[16:48:11] <Bri​anH> lol
L822[16:48:56] <Bri​anH> the only other person I think I'd really want to meet is chuck moore
L823[16:49:01] <Bri​anH> aka charles
L824[16:51:09] <Kristo​pher38> Oh he's the guy that invented forth
L825[16:51:58] <Bri​anH> yes
L826[16:52:49] <Kristo​pher38> Better hurry before he dies too D:
L827[16:54:14] <Bri​anH> considering he's 82
L828[16:58:01] ⇨ Joins: flappy (~flappy@88-113-149-197.elisa-laajakaista.fi)
L829[16:58:04] <Bri​anH> https://web.archive.org/web/20160315011838/http://pi.ytmnd.com/
L830[17:32:34] <Izaya> Elfi, Amanda: https://social.shadowkat.net/media/d1d9a22169708b05a5cf44c5713031f02add49a0dc869bb21170a321c9e89185.jpg
L831[17:34:02] <Elfi> You are a madman
L832[17:34:33] <Izaya> Every time I deploy the solar panels I feel clang's temptation
L833[17:34:39] <Izaya> so I'd say that's a reasonable assessment.
L834[17:35:39] <Izaya> https://social.shadowkat.net/media/ee2d19b54e40742f6f1d18a4c218fefa4bd91c2dfbc494a01f332e4a548779d0.jpg
L835[17:35:45] <Izaya> https://social.shadowkat.net/media/e895c2d587b284652e55ae262383cbc049f26b71a286f9fa53cacbe9e8ed8b0d.jpg
L836[17:35:51] <Izaya> https://social.shadowkat.net/media/9246fa62ddb6324faa0deaba561bc092c9d5e0c13d7efe682caabbea58e8b629.jpg
L837[17:37:17] <Elfi> Oh wow
L838[17:37:26] <Izaya> spent all day on this
L839[17:37:33] <Izaya> I'll jump it to safina some time tomorrow
L840[17:37:42] <Izaya> bum around for a while
L841[17:37:52] <Izaya> did I mention it can keep shields up indefinitely if the solar arrays are deployed?
L842[17:38:54] <Izaya> Also, did you know the small grid solar panels generate 1.5x the power of large grid ones for the same surface area?
L843[17:39:17] <Izaya> You can't do sketchy tricks with fitting 3 of them into one block space, but I'm okay with losing that.
L844[17:39:53] <Izaya> Also, I 200% plan to have this touring our SE system.
L845[17:40:02] <Izaya> Below light speed.
L846[17:41:09] <Izaya> Thinking the idea will be to get it up to 250m/s while it's pointing at the next waypoint and then have it rotate to face the sun.
L847[18:45:07] <Amanda> %calc 768 * 50
L848[18:45:07] <MichiBot> 768 * 50 => 38400
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L850[19:25:18] <Ar​iri> i wonder if you can calculate grav slings in SE
L851[19:53:16] <Elfi> I think the physics model might be a bit too simple and restrained for that?
L852[19:55:21] <Forec​aster> yeah I doubt SE has orbital mechanics
L853[19:56:52] <Elfi> A low speed orbit at the upper edge of a moon's influence may be doable but that's probably about it
L854[19:57:08] <Elfi> And that's with our present speed cap
L855[20:18:42] <Kristo​pher38> Different idea: calculate pitch and yaw of a gravity cannon to shoot a projectile at a planet to make it land roughly at a specific place
L856[20:39:43] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L857[20:39:43] <MichiBot> I'm sorry CompanionCube, you were not able to beat Kodos's record of 6 hours, 19 minutes and 51 seconds this time. 4 hours, 33 minutes and 6 seconds were wasted! Missed by 1 hour, 46 minutes and 44 seconds!
L858[21:13:01] <Ar​iri> There are orbital drop calculation scripts
L859[21:13:45] <Bri​anH> Back
L860[21:13:48] <Bri​anH> orbital drop calculation?
L861[21:13:48] <Bri​anH> SE?
L862[21:14:04] <Forec​aster> Space Engineers
L863[21:14:24] <Ar​iri> Yes
L864[21:14:40] <Bri​anH> lol. Did you see the monstrosity I made?
L865[21:14:50] <Ar​iri> Yes
L866[21:15:15] <Ar​iri> I wonder how far up a railgun slug can go...
L867[21:15:25] <Bri​anH> I made a video
L868[21:15:26] <Bri​anH> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHyP-t5xw98&t=19s
L869[21:15:26] <MichiBot> dump truck testing in Space Engineers | length: 9m 34s | Likes: 0 Dislikes: 0 Views: 8 | by Brian Hodgins | Published On 1/9/2020
L870[21:16:39] <Ariri> cool
L871[21:17:16] <Bri​anH> It works pretty well most of the time
L872[21:18:12] <Bri​anH> One of my friends I work with came on my server and the first thing he said was ". WHY DID YOU MAKE A REPLICA OF YOUR TRUCK IN GAME?"
L873[21:18:12] <Bri​anH> lol
L874[21:18:21] <Bri​anH> "just happened that way didn't intend it"
L875[21:22:42] <Bri​anH> what I want to do is make a script that controls the gyro so that under a heavy load it wont tip over easy
L876[21:23:06] <Ariri> DAS
L877[21:23:21] <Bri​anH> ?
L878[21:24:03] <Ariri> https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/discussion/1089115113/3247562523089045588/
L879[21:24:49] <Bri​anH> ooh
L880[21:25:04] <Ariri> Outstanding script, i refuse to drive a rover without it
L881[21:25:22] <Bri​anH> yeah. I should try it
L882[21:25:33] <Bri​anH> Because this truck believe it or not can easily carry 2 million kg
L883[21:25:40] <Bri​anH> we tested that on flat ground
L884[21:26:32] <Bri​anH> I made the body detatchable easily, I have trucks that have different bodies, a flat bed, a refinery on a trailer, bunch of stuff
L885[21:26:54] <Bri​anH> the crane truck doesn't work very well though
L886[21:27:29] <CompanionCube> presented without comment: https://twitter.com/ash__mash/status/1305007611419348992
L887[21:27:31] <MichiBot> Sun Sep 13 04:57:15 UTC 2020 @ash__mash: “A transgender woman who describes herself as a ‘Satanic anarchist’ has won the Republican Party nomination for she… <https://t.co/MTAiaMK5O9&gt;
L888[21:27:53] <CompanionCube> (spoiler: is actually ancap, not a real anarchist)
L889[21:27:59] <Bri​anH> wait aminute
L890[21:28:01] <CompanionCube> or well, libertarian at least
L891[21:28:04] <Bri​anH> how can you be a satanic anarchist
L892[21:28:22] <CompanionCube> Think lavey.
L893[21:30:35] <Bri​anH> oh wiat that makes senmse
L894[21:30:53] <Bri​anH> I read that as satanic atheist
L895[21:30:56] <Bri​anH> I was like, daheck
L896[21:31:22] <CompanionCube> those exist too
L897[21:32:00] <Bri​anH> I don't think that works lol
L898[21:32:28] <CompanionCube> iirc it goes that they believe in a non-literal satan or something like that
L899[21:33:06] <Bri​anH> You should recruit them into the church of the FSM
L900[21:34:20] * CompanionCube has heard of the chill Satanic Temple before. Good at turning 'religious freedom' back on the religious right in the US.
L901[22:13:13] <Bri​anH> http://tinyurl.com/y6zbntsl
L902[22:15:26] <Bri​anH> @bad at vijya so I pulled this out of my computer
L903[22:15:48] <Bri​anH> And I'm pretty sure this is NOT the monster 3D but I'm trying to find out
L904[22:15:53] <Bri​anH> I know we had one
L905[22:18:15] <bad at​ vijya> wew
L906[22:19:26] <Bri​anH> Hmm. ,16MB video ram
L907[22:22:41] <Bri​anH> AHA
L908[22:23:03] <Bri​anH> @bad at vijya It looks like this is a Voodoo Banshee Monster Fusion.
L909[22:23:13] <bad at​ vijya> wew
L910[22:23:16] <Bri​anH> It does support 3DFX
L911[22:23:25] <Bri​anH> No SLI
L912[22:25:19] <Bri​anH> The problem is it doesn't have an OpenGL ICD
L913[22:25:52] <Bri​anH> ItIt was the very last 3DFX capable card on the market that diamond ever made
L914[22:42:25] <Bri​anH> Find my boards
L915[22:42:29] <Bri​anH> Found*
L916[22:42:54] <Bri​anH> http://tinyurl.com/y3ayem9d
L917[22:43:31] <Bri​anH> The smaller board with the vlb ports have an intel overdrive
L918[22:44:22] <Bri​anH> I think it's a 486 on a 386 slot it's something, they did something similar with pentium 1
L919[22:44:40] <Bri​anH> I forget how the overdrive worked
L920[22:45:25] <Bri​anH> Do it looks like I will be getting a new 486 board. I want one with vlb as well as a pci slot
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