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L1[00:01:57] <Michiyo> ssl-protocols: TLSv1 TLSv1.1 TLSv1.2 TLSv1.3
L2[00:01:57] <Michiyo> ssl-ciphers: EECDH+AESGCM+AES128:EECDH+AESGCM+AES256:EECDH+CHACHA20:EDH+AESGCM+AES128:EDH+AESGCM+AES256:EDH+CHACHA20:EECDH+SHA256+AES128:EECDH+SHA384+AES256:EDH+SHA256+AES128:EDH+SHA256+AES256:EECDH+SHA1+AES128:EECDH+SHA1+AES256:EDH+SHA1+AES128:EDH+SHA1+AES256:EECDH+HIGH:EDH+HIGH:AESGCM+AES128:AESGCM+AES256:CHACHA20:SHA256+AES128:SHA256+AES256:SHA1+AES128:SHA1+AES256:HIGH:!aNULL:!eNULL:!EXPORT:!DES:!RC4:!3DES:!MD5:!PSK:!KRB5:!aECDH
L3[00:02:19] <Michiyo> the nginx config lists ssl_protocols SSLv3 TLSv1 TLSv1.1 TLSv1.2;
L4[00:02:27] <Lizzy> eww sslv3
L5[00:02:41] <Michiyo> Yeah I'm throwing EVERYTHING at this to try to get it working
L6[00:02:47] <Michiyo> then I'll pull stuff back once it is
L7[00:03:01] <Michiyo> but SSLv3 should throw ALL KINDS of warnings on most SSL check sites
L8[00:03:03] <Michiyo> and nothing
L9[00:03:09] <Lizzy> ssl_protocols TLSv1.2 TLSv1.3; # Dropping SSLv3, ref: POODLE
L10[00:03:09] <Lizzy> ssl_dhparam /etc/nginx/dhparam.pem; # openssl dhparam -out /etc/nginx/dhparam.pem 4096
L11[00:03:09] <Lizzy> ssl_ciphers EECDH+AESGCM:EDH+AESGCM
L12[00:03:32] <Lizzy> is what i'm using on whirlpool (you can safely disregard the dhparam file)
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L15[00:04:45] <Lizzy> and whirlpool has openssl 1.1.1c
L16[00:04:53] <Lizzy> err, rip those two?
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L21[00:06:15] * Michiyo sighs
L22[00:07:13] <Michiyo> tried rebooting.. maybe something was drunk
L23[00:07:14] <Michiyo> but nop
L24[00:07:15] <Lizzy> try `openssl s_client -connect localhost:443 -tls1_3` and see if that gives you back any details?
L25[00:08:08] <Lizzy> also cool, my reverse dns actually works
L26[00:08:09] <Michiyo> https://pastebin.com/aeGKh0z0
L27[00:08:22] <Lizzy> hmm, i might wanna ask esper for an extension potentially
L28[00:08:36] <Lizzy> though none of my irc stuff goes via v4 so i should be fine
L29[00:08:45] <Michiyo> well, soon (tm) Michi and Corded will be back on my side
L30[00:08:52] <Lizzy> ah
L31[00:09:01] <Michiyo> I just needed somewhere to stash them while I get ready to nuke the dedi
L32[00:09:07] <Michiyo> from orbit
L33[00:09:17] <Michiyo> good thing you're not in the BHS datacenter. :P
L34[00:09:22] <Michiyo> But poor poor superminor2.
L35[00:09:31] <Lizzy> also hmm, seems like something is fucky with your openssl setup
L36[00:11:32] <Ariri> Izaya: https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fv9jt91zuxj331.png&f=1&nofb=1
L37[00:11:42] <Lizzy> Michiyo, try `nginx -T | grep "ssl_protocol\|ssl_ciphers"` to see if there's anything extra in your nginx config that could be overriding the ssl stuff
L38[00:12:05] <Lizzy> all being well, you should only see either of those appear once (possibly, depends on your config)
L39[00:12:56] <Michiyo> I just told plesk to resync the ciphers so this list is different than the last one
L40[00:12:56] <Michiyo> https://pastebin.com/7TQdcNFf
L41[00:14:08] <Lizzy> hmm, i think if you don't tell nginx what ciphers to use it'll use whatever. perhaps try commenting out the ciphers?
L42[00:14:11] <Vexatos> so Michiyo did you manage to salvage everything important?
L43[00:14:18] <Michiyo> Sadly I NEED an older TLS version, as I'm using a .net 4.low program that accesses an XML on this domain
L44[00:14:40] <Michiyo> Vexatos, all website stuff is safely on a VM by Lizzy
L45[00:14:49] <Vexatos> o7 liz
L46[00:15:11] <Lizzy> Vexatos, the server it's on is also in Germany, so you get to be closest to it
L47[00:15:16] <Michiyo> lol
L48[00:15:43] <Lizzy> Michiyo, try without the cipher list, see if it wants to let you then
L49[00:16:04] <Lizzy> a bit weird how it's not doing the lower tls versions
L50[00:16:16] <Vexatos> hetzner I assume then
L51[00:16:28] <Lizzy> nope, ovh
L52[00:16:44] <Vexatos> 27ms ping
L53[00:17:10] <Ocawesome101> my pinephone just arrived! :D
L54[00:17:27] <Lizzy> to check which datacenter it's in(idk if there's more than one in germany) i'd have to open the ovh control panel and i don't feel like getting blinded right now
L55[00:17:41] <Vexatos> dark mode userscript time
L56[00:18:35] <Lizzy> i have an addon called dark reader that works on pretty much every other website. except ovh's stuff seems to go much slower when it's active i'm guessing due to a load of crap being loaded in the back ground and the addon trying to dark-mode it
L57[00:22:12] <Michiyo> nope.. this worked fine on Aurora <_> WTF
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L59[00:23:49] <Lizzy> Michiyo, is it just one particular subdomain that needs the lower tls versions? if we can maybe proxy that via whirlpool (i can add a private IP to your container so it doesn't need to go out the host and back in) that could work, though i'd need to find a cipher suite that works with tls1.1 and below.
L60[00:24:10] <Lizzy> would have to be set up tomorrow though as i really need to go to bed cause i gotta be in work early tomorrow
L61[00:26:36] <Michiyo> yeah it's just this one. I just don't understand why nothing is working ._.
L62[00:27:40] <Michiyo> Thanks Lizzy I'm gonna keep bashing my head against it. You'll know if it's working cause if not you'll likely see something about a person exploding in Portland.
L63[00:28:27] <Lizzy​-chan> Pls no explode yourself :blobcatsad:
L64[00:28:29] <Michiyo> I knew something was wrong when I was getting an A rating on SSL labs lol
L65[00:35:57] <Michiyo> Welp I got 1.3 working!
L66[00:36:01] <Michiyo> but.. not 1.1 or 1.0
L67[00:37:15] <simon816> most things from the past 10 years should work with 1.2 anyway
L68[00:37:23] <Michiyo> yeah
L69[00:37:26] <Michiyo> you'd think right?
L70[00:38:41] <Michiyo> This program was written with Visual C# Express 2010, so .net 4.0
L71[00:39:19] <Michiyo> and it looks like you have to specifically enable 1.2, which this developer didn't
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L76[01:25:34] * Amanda creates a star in Lizzy's bedroom, cuddles up around Elfi to watch youtubes
L77[01:33:17] <Ar​iri> Casually instantiating nuclear fusion again are we?
L78[01:41:07] <Izaya> Ocawesome101: send pics
L79[01:44:52] <Ar​iri> owo
L80[01:49:56] <Ocawesome101> Izaya: second
L81[01:50:55] <Ocawes​ome101> Sorry for the crap camera quality
L82[01:51:25] <Ocawes​ome101> Here’s one http://tinyurl.com/y45trqmv
L83[01:51:49] <Ocawesome101> Izaya: see above
L84[01:52:30] <Izaya> :D
L85[01:53:01] <Ar​iri> wha dat
L86[01:53:05] <Izaya> I got an email to say mine is coming
L87[01:53:05] <Ocawesome101> pinephone
L88[01:53:09] <Ocawesome101> running pmOS
L89[01:53:13] <Ocawesome101> ayy nice
L90[01:53:23] <Ocawesome101> mine came two days early so it was very much a welcome surprise
L91[01:53:35] <Ocawesome101> (props to DHL)
L92[01:54:42] <Ar​iri> :o
L93[01:55:01] <CompanionCube> w00t
L94[01:55:28] <Izaya> https://social.shadowkat.net/xmpp/upload/tathXia9iDgvK9Ga/aeWaI7cFQi2AXxamXtF5hg.jpg
L95[01:55:51] <Ar​iri> 150? not bad
L96[01:56:10] <Ar​iri> USD*
L97[01:56:38] <Izaya> I ended up spending 226 USD for the 3GB/32GB version plus shipping
L98[01:56:56] <Ocawesome101> ooo you got the 3gb one
L99[01:57:06] <Ocawesome101> i just got the 2gb/16gb one because i don't think i need that
L100[01:57:12] <Izaya> Probably ended up the same price as my G3, but it is actually an upgrade now
L101[01:57:13] <Ocawesome101> my current phone only has 2gb of memory anyway
L102[01:57:18] <Ocawesome101> hah nice
L103[01:57:26] <Ar​iri> and a dock, I like it
L104[01:57:43] <Izaya> my current phone has almost exactly the same specs as the 2GB version
L105[01:57:53] <Ar​iri> I would get one if I really had a need for another phone tbh, its v nice
L106[01:59:18] <Izaya> My G3's battery is on the way out so I figure I might as well invest in its replacement, even if it isn't quite ready yet
L107[02:11:50] <Ar​iri> Izaya: Got a list of books I should add to my eReader when I get it? (Like sci-fi or non-fiction stuff, Ive already downloaded Hyperion and some related series)
L108[02:12:14] <Izaya> TMoHS
L109[02:12:15] <Michiyo> @Lizzy​-chan it was an issue with OpenSSL...
L110[02:12:35] <Michiyo> 1.1.1f wouldn't let nginx start with TLSv1/1.1, I downgraded to 1.1.1 and it worked
L111[02:12:55] <Izaya> Also A Fire Upon the Deep and a Deepness in the Sky by Vernor Vinge
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L113[02:13:44] <Ar​iri> Searching for TMoHS brought up Haruhi Suzumiya... could you type the full?
L114[02:14:19] <Izaya> The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya (+ series)
L115[02:14:25] <CompanionCube> pretty sure that's what Izaya meant, yes
L116[02:14:35] <Ar​iri> Oh, okay
L117[02:15:03] <Ar​iri> Thanks
L118[02:15:29] * CompanionCube has three sets of PDFs/ebooks, with varying degrees of legitness.
L119[02:16:47] <CompanionCube> the most legitimate set is probably the random microsoft ebooks offered for download years back :p
L120[02:21:30] <Kristo​pher38> I can't get the <code> tags to work on the wiki
L121[02:22:40] <Kristo​pher38> God damnit
L122[02:32:54] <Izaya> Ariri: Tau Zero was good also
L123[02:33:29] <Izaya> Minecraft Isekai. I'm not even mad. https://mangadex.org/title/48943/goshujinsama-to-yuku-isekai-survival
L124[02:34:54] <Izaya> (Potentially nsfw, haven't read it but see tags)
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L127[02:40:58] <Kristo​pher38> jesus fucking christ now it broke formatting in other place
L128[02:42:02] <Kristo​pher38> i'll kill myself in a minute
L129[02:42:43] <Izaya> Ariri: https://i.redd.it/le5jmwnjamk51.jpg
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L134[02:43:44] <Ariri> Finally, ffs znc
L135[02:44:19] <Ariri> Izaya: Even worse if you think about the empty space in between the two
L136[02:46:28] <Amanda> %remindme 12h Send Inari that stupid ladder comic
L137[02:46:29] <MichiBot> I'll remind you about "Send Inari that stupid ladder comic" at 09/02/2020 01:46:28 PM
L138[02:51:08] <Amanda> %choose and halucinate; icecream or coke
L139[02:51:08] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: icecream and halucinate
L140[02:52:22] * Amanda beams a tiny bowl of mint choco-chip icecream in front of Elfi as well, noms while she reads
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L143[03:11:52] <Bri​anH> I don't know why
L144[03:12:16] <Bri​anH> but I kind of like this better than doing it the drawing circles and bubbles and a guessing tree of numbers to find the gcd:
L145[03:12:20] <Bri​anH> Code Block pastebined null
L146[03:15:38] <Amanda> Yes, null is definitely a good way to find gcds
L147[03:17:21] <Ar​iri> Word of advice: Dont convert an entire 400+ chapter webtoon to an epub in one go https://lcars5201.ddns.net/index.php/s/92BPqTZ3LS6gSaJ/preview
L148[03:17:31] <Izaya> use cbz instead
L149[03:18:46] <Ar​iri> I should probably read the differences
L150[03:19:15] <Izaya> cb* is basically a zip file with pictures in it
L151[03:19:31] <Izaya> also, if you haven't already, you should look into calibre
L152[03:19:50] <Izaya> even if the lead dev is kinda tardo
L153[03:19:54] <Ar​iri> I have calibre, does it convert pictures into ereader format?
L154[03:20:09] <Izaya> it can convert cbz
L155[03:20:26] <Izaya> but you don't need special software to convert pictures to cbz
L156[03:21:38] <Ar​iri> I have the pictures of manga and webtoons via HakuNeko, then converting that to epub (or now cbz) with Kindle Comic and import to calibre
L157[03:23:37] <Izaya> are they numbered / in order?
L158[03:23:51] <Izaya> the pictures
L159[03:24:35] <Ar​iri> 001, 002, 003, etc in subfolders with chapter numbers and names, yes
L160[03:24:54] <Izaya> zip ../whatever.cbz *
L161[03:26:23] <Ar​iri> Ill try that, thx
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L163[03:27:02] <Ocawesome101> o/
L164[03:35:46] <Izaya> you know
L165[03:36:14] <Izaya> my bike has passed two rego checks without a working backlight for the instrument cluster
L166[03:36:29] <Izaya> or at least, the speedo
L167[03:36:41] <Izaya> the tacho is lit up, and the thermometer
L168[03:37:09] <Izaya> gotta just guess the speed based on gear and RPM in the dark :^)
L169[03:40:05] <Ar​iri> hyped for the SagEye release tomm
L170[03:42:21] <Amanda> Izaya: I actually stopped using calibe since I got the kobo clara hd. I've got a fish script I use to generate the epubs, then kepubify them, then run rsync + some utilities to generate covers / import series jnfo
L171[03:42:59] <Amanda> It stores all the metadata I use to keep in calibre in tmdu instead, though I rarely need that
L172[03:43:26] <Ar​iri> Amanda: How do you update ongoing stuff?
L173[03:43:43] <Izaya> tmdu?
L174[03:44:34] <Amanda> Ariri: generating a new epub for my stories. I've not been reading manga as much lately,but with the script it'd be a pain since it currently loses volume / chapter info when converted from a folder of folder of epubs
L175[03:44:47] <Amanda> s/epubs/jpegs/
L176[03:44:47] <MichiBot> <Amanda> Ariri: generating a new epub for my stories. I've not been reading manga as much lately,but with the script it'd be a pain since it currently loses volume / chapter info when converted from a folder of folder of jpegs
L177[03:45:43] <Ar​iri> Ah okay, thats what I thought
L178[03:45:43] <Ar​iri> But new epubs of written work keep that info, or you just remember?
L179[03:45:47] <Amanda> Izaya: sorry, tmsu: https://tmsu.org/
L180[03:46:01] <Izaya> oh neat
L181[03:46:14] <Amanda> The written work has chapter information keep
L182[03:46:21] <Izaya> I think I've poked it before
L183[03:46:30] <Amanda> So I just need to know "I've read up to chapter 25"
L184[03:46:37] <Izaya> tbh makes me wish I just had BFS but such is life
L185[03:47:45] <Ar​iri> hmm... I really should work out a good way to automate this then, else I may dwindle in my eReader usage for the sake of time, but I really dislike Windows batch files for scripting
L186[04:00:02] <Amanda> I mean, what I use for webnovels is a go program
L187[04:00:30] <Amanda> It's just a fish script that catagarises them and generates the command line to invoke that program
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L189[04:37:30] <Ocawesome101> hm
L190[04:37:55] <Ocawesome101> for vt100, is it more standard for the terminal to handle backspaces or for the software to handle them?
L191[04:56:28] <Amanda> Depends on if you're in line mode or character mode
L192[04:56:57] <Ocawesome101> what's the standard way to toggle them?
L193[04:57:01] <Amanda> Though, in strictly vt100's case, I think you're always in line mode
L194[04:57:13] <Ocawesome101> *is* there a standard way?
L195[04:57:17] <Amanda> Character mode is a newer comcept
L196[04:57:40] <Amanda> Than the serial-based dumb terminals vt100 originates from
L197[04:58:13] <Michiyo> anyone recall if the Esper connection limit is 4 or 5?
L198[05:02:44] <Michiyo> Ok, killing ZNC so I can pack it up
L199[05:02:49] <Michiyo> goodbye everyone!
L200[05:02:58] <Amanda> Goodbye moon!
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L206[05:03:36] <Mic​hiyo> o/
L207[05:04:07] <Mic​hiyo> %test
L208[05:04:11] <Mic​hiyo> %sip
L209[05:04:11] <MichiBot> You drink a shining redstone potion (New!). The bottle turns into an apple.
L210[05:04:16] <Mic​hiyo> ah there we go
L211[05:04:39] <Ar​iri> %tonk
L212[05:04:39] <MichiBot> Potzblitz! Ar​iri! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of 4 hours, 3 minutes and 48 seconds (By 2 hours, 40 minutes and 53 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L213[05:04:40] <MichiBot> Ariri's new record is 6 hours, 44 minutes and 41 seconds! Ariri also gained 0.0134 (0.00268 x 5) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #11. Need 0.01589 more points to pass DaCompu​terNerd!
L214[05:05:13] <Corded> * <Mic​hiyo> kills ZNC and closes HexChat, because... meh
L215[05:05:20] <Corded> * <Mic​hiyo> 30 seconds later... opens HexChat.
L216[05:05:39] <Ar​iri> turn back to the superior side
L217[05:06:15] <Mic​hiyo> I just don't feel like directly connecting for IRC :P
L218[05:06:18] <Mic​hiyo> I'm already here lol
L219[05:06:18] <Amanda> Yes, we miss you in irc!
L220[05:06:43] <Ar​iri> Fair enough, sometime I do the same if I’m already using discord
L221[05:07:29] <Ar​iri> 12 hours till the new Sagi podcast :D
L222[05:08:23] <Ar​iri> Oh yeah, Michiyo, do you still play Elite?
L223[05:08:27] <Elfi> imagine using discord at all
L224[05:08:30] <Elfi> This post by the IRC gang
L225[05:08:46] <Amanda> You kidding? With get 48h work day?
L226[05:08:53] <Amanda> Her*
L227[05:09:19] <Ar​iri> gives Elfi a neon lämp in agreement
L228[05:09:36] <Elfi> Lämp +o+
L229[05:09:43] <Mic​hiyo> I own E:D, I.. sometimes login for a few minutes
L230[05:09:45] <Mic​hiyo> afk
L231[05:09:48] <Elfi> ...Okay, there's one advantage to discord and that's using glitchcat's lamp emote
L232[05:09:52] <Elfi> But other than that!
L233[05:10:00] <Ar​iri> ..that’s better than i’ve done tbh
L234[05:10:00] * Elfi cling to lämp
L235[05:10:13] <Ar​iri> but I still write for the game -_-
L236[05:14:18] <Ar​iri> In any case, https://www.sagittarius-eye.com/ is a nice read/listen for stuff about ED or the universe in general
L237[05:18:58] <Mic​hiyo> But yeah, it's been a bit since I was able to login. I stood Forecaster up last weekend? weekend before last? IDK, it all runs together.
L238[05:19:35] <Mic​hiyo> My job is super annoying in that 90% of it HAS to happen after 5PM, but they still want me available from 8:30 - 5.
L239[05:19:50] <Mic​hiyo> and then weekends are, LOL DO IT ALL NOA
L240[05:20:50] <Mic​hiyo> and now with Naomi working 2-11, if I want to spend ANY time with her I have to stay up EVEN LATER, I think I've got about 4 hours of sleep a night, IF I'm lucky in the last 2 weeks.
L241[05:21:07] <Amanda> Such is the curse of a 72h work day
L242[05:21:12] <Mic​hiyo> That shit was easy in my 20s...
L243[05:21:18] <Mic​hiyo> I'm almost 35 q_q
L244[05:28:29] * Amanda tucks in around Elfi, zzxmws
L245[05:28:31] <Forec​aster> Just tell me when you have time to pew pew in space when I'm online :P
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L247[05:43:51] * Elfi zzzs snuggled in close to Amanda
L248[06:14:23] <CompanionCube> %tonkout
L249[06:14:23] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Compan​ionCube, you were not able to beat Ar​iri's record of 6 hours, 44 minutes and 41 seconds this time. 1 hour, 9 minutes and 44 seconds were wasted! Missed by 5 hours, 34 minutes and 57 seconds!
L250[06:15:23] <CompanionCube> Michiyo: iirc limit's 5?
L251[06:15:51] <Mic​hiyo> Yeah, IIRC it yells at you @ 4, and nukes you @ 5
L252[06:16:00] <Mic​hiyo> or is it yells @ 5 and nukes @ 6
L253[06:16:01] <Mic​hiyo> meh
L254[06:16:14] <Mic​hiyo> I'll only have 3, and only for long enough to get a new hypervisor up lol
L255[06:26:20] <Mic​hiyo> damn it
L256[06:26:25] <Mic​hiyo> I forgot about Neo
L257[06:26:41] <Mic​hiyo> Oh
L258[06:26:52] <Mic​hiyo> Neo is logging to the wrong damn server anyway
L259[06:26:54] <Mic​hiyo> neat.
L260[06:27:09] <Mic​hiyo> https://irclogs.pc-logix.com/view?chan=oc&log=2020-08-31.log#L533
L261[06:27:10] <Mic​hiyo> gg
L262[06:39:44] <Ar​iri> I wonder if the fusion reactor on my dead Minecraft server is still running...
L263[06:40:09] <Ar​iri> (at least until I shut down the server yesterday)
L264[06:40:17] <Ar​iri> (at least until I shut down the machine yesterday) [Edited]
L265[06:44:40] <Ocawesome101> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWgwYBDSHGo this is interesting
L266[06:44:40] <MichiBot> Super Capacitor Rocket | length: 18m 56s | Likes: 56,255 Dislikes: 1,824 Views: 1,946,662 | by Tom Stanton | Published On 19/4/2019
L267[06:48:58] <Izaya> new tires: perfect.
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L269[06:54:50] <Lizzy​-chan> > @Lizzy-chan it was an issue with OpenSSL...
L270[06:54:50] <Lizzy​-chan> @Michiyo weird, never seen that before
L271[06:55:00] <Mic​hiyo> right??
L272[06:55:43] <Ariri> Okay, whos doing fudgy wudgys with my internet, show yourself
L273[06:56:41] <Ariri> Looks like its a problem for 'future me,' hopefully it doesnt interfere with any deadlines; night all
L274[06:57:12] <Mic​hiyo> o/ Night
L275[06:57:45] <Mic​hiyo> But yeah, and since Debian/Ubuntu fuck with version numbers ALL. THE. TIME... I'm not 100% sure WHICH exact version I'm actually on
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L279[07:06:29] <Forec​aster> I didn't know supercaps could have that much juice in them
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L282[07:54:37] <CompanionCube> Izaya: thoughts on facebook shenanigans?
L283[07:56:13] * CompanionCube has heard it described as welfare for murdoch lol
L284[07:59:50] <ThePi​Guy24> k time to make janky fsk data transmission because i want to
L285[08:00:30] <ThePi​Guy24> transmission is easy
L286[08:00:34] <ThePi​Guy24> recieving less so
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L289[08:07:58] <Izaya> CompanionCube: honestly, I don't know whether I hate the murdoch press or facebook and google more
L290[08:08:36] <Izaya> One sabotages human existence in its entirety, the other just quite a few countries
L291[08:09:23] <CompanionCube> isn't #2 #1 with extra steps
L292[08:11:27] <MichiBot> Ariri REMINDER: make a to-do list too, because reminders arent working so well when you put them off; basically just use the reminder function, but no temporal hassling, just a subcommand to retrieve latest
L293[08:13:46] <CompanionCube> Izaya: also imo blatant crony capitalism is more deserving of hate, facebook and google are yet to reach this point
L294[08:16:50] <Forec​aster> https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/09/first-modular-nuclear-reactor-design-certified-in-the-us/
L295[08:16:51] <Forec​aster> this is neat
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L297[08:31:44] <Forec​aster> %sip
L298[08:31:44] <MichiBot> You drink a gloomy spice potion (New!). Forecaster shrinks by a negligible amount until they see a bird.
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L306[11:53:59] <Lizzy> also @michiyo I think Esper limit is 5 before they start killing
L307[11:56:20] <Lizzy> nvm, just seen CC answer that
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L312[12:32:33] <S3> Thats cool Forecaster
L313[12:32:56] <S3> people sometimes forget that nuclear technologyhas come a long way
L314[12:33:02] <Amanda> but S3 prefers this: [ bucket of nails being stabbed into a potato ]
L315[12:33:17] <S3> that reactor in china that exploded a couple years ago or whatever if I remember right was pretty old
L316[12:33:38] <S3> Hey, you can get electricity from that
L317[12:34:02] <S3> all you need is an anode and a cathode in the potato and you're set
L318[12:34:40] <Amanda> BECAUSE I'M A POTATO!
L319[12:34:58] * Amanda snugs back up around Elfi, yawns, loads up her ereader to wake up some moe
L320[12:35:32] <Izaya> nuclear is cool but can I interest you in renewables
L321[12:36:22] <Forec​aster> smaller and cheaper made reactors that are easier to maintain and replace would be much better than giant custom built installations which puts a lot of energy in one place
L322[12:37:57] <S3> The problem I have is, where does the waste go
L323[12:40:04] <Izaya> the australian government will sell you a nice biodiverse chunk of land to dump your nuclear waste on
L324[12:40:05] <S3> I'm more interested in these: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-CkJg5e130
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L327[12:45:34] <Forec​aster> that looks very concept-y
L328[12:45:42] <Forec​aster> but if it works, great
L329[12:45:47] <Forec​aster> anything that isn't fossil fuel
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L342[14:46:30] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER: Send Inari that stupid ladder comic
L343[15:14:08] <Ar​iri> Forecaster: Podcast 28 is live on sagittarius eye
L344[15:16:46] <Ar​iri> scratch that, 1h40 still
L345[15:17:13] <Ar​iri> %tonk
L346[15:17:14] <MichiBot> Willikers! Ar​iri! You beat your own previous record of 6 hours, 44 minutes and 41 seconds (By 2 hours, 18 minutes and 8 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L347[15:17:14] <MichiBot> Ariri's new record is 9 hours, 2 minutes and 49 seconds! No points gained for stealing from yourself. (Lost out on 0.0023 x 7 = 0.0161)
L348[15:20:45] <Ar​iri> Sigh, inexplicable network delays again http://tinyurl.com/y6mewa3p
L349[15:21:06] <Forec​aster> maybe you're the network delay!
L350[15:22:24] <Ar​iri> D: how could you say that!
L351[15:23:52] <Ar​iri> Throughput looks fine... i don’t get it...
L352[15:24:03] <Ar​iri> messages take forever to send though
L353[15:25:38] <Forec​aster> this is a terrible publication, it doesn't have a horoscope
L354[15:36:55] <Amanda> and where's the crosswords!?
L355[15:41:04] <Ar​iri> i want my comics D:
L356[15:42:37] <Ar​iri> Izaya: https://www.reddit.com/r/Animewallpaper/comments/il6n1f/echidina_small_version_rezero_1920x1080/
L357[15:42:37] <Ar​iri> smol
L358[15:44:25] <Forec​aster> %choose go buy food
L359[15:44:25] <MichiBot> Forec​aster: Yes! Do it now!
L360[15:44:31] <Forec​aster> alright fine
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L362[15:50:04] <alyssile> very cool
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L364[15:51:36] <suv> very cool indeed
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L367[15:56:55] <Ar​iri> thank you, very cool
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L369[16:17:25] <Forec​aster> I wonder how the second person knew what the first one said... it can't possibly have been the same person
L370[16:17:31] <Forec​aster> that would be super illegal
L371[16:22:12] <S3> Amanda: I thought you were a cat not a potato
L372[16:22:35] <S3> Besides you're too cool to stab nails into
L373[16:24:29] <Amanda> S3: was a portal 2 reference
L374[16:24:41] <S3> OH yeah
L375[16:24:45] <S3> I forgot all about that game
L376[16:26:34] <S3> I really like the top rated community builds.
L377[16:26:45] <S3> That was always fun
L378[16:30:02] <S3> https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/il4qbj/how_the_internet_works/
L379[16:30:11] <Mic​hiyo> ugggggggh
L380[16:30:13] <Mic​hiyo> sooo tired
L381[16:32:23] <S3> Go to bed
L382[16:33:07] <Mic​hiyo> I just got up.. for work
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L393[17:33:43] <Bri​anH> Would any of you like a pure Lua RSA library that works in OC"
L394[17:33:50] <Bri​anH> That I;m writing
L395[17:33:54] <Bri​anH> it works with n bit keys
L396[17:40:29] <dequbed> S3: Unless n can be 65535 I'm not interested
L397[17:57:59] <ThePi​Guy24> smh if your keys arent at least a gigabyte long i dont wanna talk to you
L398[18:02:34] <Ar​iri> Cant steal my private keys if i have near-nil bandwidth
L399[18:04:53] <Mic​hiyo> I have anti-bandwidth, all of my downloads are just really slow uploads
L400[18:04:53] <Corded> * <Forec​aster> throws a usb drive in your general direction
L401[18:06:17] <Ar​iri> sounds like negative data
L402[18:14:42] <Forec​aster> did my hacking attempt succeed?
L403[18:15:57] <Bri​anH> the whole concept of uploading and downloading is technically useless, Michiyo.
L404[18:17:19] <Mic​hiyo> haha! https://paste.pc-logix.com/ it lives!
L405[18:17:23] <Bri​anH> you'll notice especially that when coordinating with an engineer that is transferring information between some kind of device
L406[18:17:41] <Bri​anH> ooh
L407[18:17:42] <Bri​anH> finally
L408[18:18:06] <Mic​hiyo> Seems Plesk has support for node.js internally, so no more having to deal with a @restart cron or remembering to launch the server.
L409[18:19:14] <Mic​hiyo> ```Testing```
L410[18:19:24] <Mic​hiyo> Anyone IRC side confirm that worked?
L411[18:19:51] <S3> It did
L412[18:19:55] <S3> on irccloud that is
L413[18:20:21] <Mic​hiyo> valid paste URL and actual working data on the other side?
L414[18:20:21] <Mic​hiyo> neat
L415[18:20:22] <Mic​hiyo> thanks
L416[18:20:36] <Bri​anH> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/unaxivatum
L417[18:20:48] <S3> oh wow it pastebinned it
L418[18:21:11] <Bri​anH> `test 2`
L419[18:21:24] <S3> So why did it pastebin the code there and not michiyos
L420[18:21:37] <Mic​hiyo> Maybe it hates me.
L421[18:21:49] <S3> haha
L422[18:22:04] <S3> is there a way to detect the type of code block in discord?
L423[18:22:26] <Mic​hiyo> Ok, slowly migrating data across to OneDrive, as that's my best bet for storing this massive wad of crap.. lol
L424[18:22:36] <Mic​hiyo> I check for backticks :P
L425[18:22:41] <Lizzy​-chan> can always read whatever is put after the initial `\`\`\``
L426[18:22:45] <Lizzy​-chan> fek
L427[18:22:50] <S3> oh yeah the top line is the block type
L428[18:23:27] <S3> I was just thinking whether or not its worth it to detect what you put in and convert it to an extension type and add that to the end of the paste url
L429[18:23:36] <S3> i.e. elxiir is ex, lua .lua, etc
L430[18:23:51] <S3> because sometimes hastebin is like ok so your SQL code is cobol
L431[18:23:52] <Mic​hiyo> the server does it's own thing there
L432[18:24:06] <Mic​hiyo> the server does its own thing there [Edited]
L433[18:24:17] <Mic​hiyo> I.. don't think I can specify an extension
L434[18:24:22] <Mic​hiyo> I'd have to look through the API
L435[18:24:26] <S3> well, you can change the url to change the syntax dynamically
L436[18:24:42] <S3> hastebin does the rest behind the scenes
L437[18:24:42] <Mic​hiyo> But why though... :P
L438[18:24:56] <S3> because shenanigans
L439[18:25:04] <Corded> * <Mic​hiyo> shrugs
L440[18:25:07] <S3> heh
L441[18:26:53] <S3> I thought you were working
L442[18:27:02] <Mic​hiyo> I'm always working
L443[18:27:44] * S3 writes that down
L444[18:27:51] <S3> Michiyo is never broken
L445[18:28:03] <Mic​hiyo> Oh, no that is not the case.
L446[18:28:06] <Mic​hiyo> I can assure you.
L447[18:32:07] <Forec​aster> 50% of the time she works every time
L448[18:33:32] <ThePi​Guy24> 33% of the time it works 90% of the time
L449[18:34:43] <S3> When do you have to call in tech support?
L450[18:36:06] <Forec​aster> nobody knows
L451[18:36:49] <Ar​iri> self-summoning tech support
L452[18:37:10] <Ar​iri> no record of its results
L453[18:40:16] <S3> Developing a binary filesystem for OC is tedius
L454[18:41:14] <S3> the partitioning scheme and filesystem will be part of the same memory space, but I dont want one partition to take away space from another just by being a fixed size; Instead, I'd like to interlace them and use a quota style system instead.
L455[18:42:23] <S3> Since space on an OC disk is limited I think that is the most reasonable option I can think of, to make the most use of all of the disk space.
L456[19:01:41] <S3> I just realized bad_at_vijya, it may benefit to cache file entry tables instead of the sectors of files themselves/
L457[19:01:47] <S3> and perhaps more memory efficient too
L458[19:02:39] <S3> as the disk is read. Fetching the file data isnt too bad. You could store a second buffer for the actual file data, but the only way I find that useful is if I can track how much memory I need
L459[19:02:53] <S3> and prevent overflowing memory, and clear cache data when coroutines are spun up etc.
L460[19:03:21] <S3> I don't think that there is any reliable way to do that
L461[19:04:01] <S3> If only there was a way to get an event in OC when memory reaches a certain level
L462[19:04:21] <S3> like say 90% capacity, to remind the OS to do some trash removal
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L464[19:23:09] <Mic​hiyo> Man, I REALLY hope this gitlab backup works.
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L467[19:25:43] <Mic​hiyo> welp.
L468[19:25:50] <Mic​hiyo> That's all of my VMs on my dedi down
L469[19:26:06] <Lizzy> :/
L470[19:27:06] <Ar​iri> Wish I knew enough to help out or share the load tbh
L471[19:28:34] <Forec​aster> I know enough to definitely make everything worse :D
L472[19:30:55] <Mic​hiyo> http://tinyurl.com/y35d5wk2
L473[19:30:56] <Mic​hiyo> flat liiiiine
L474[19:31:24] <Forec​aster> I'll get the defibrillator!
L475[19:33:14] <Ar​iri> Read the oscillator for life signs
L476[19:33:57] <Brisingr​Aerowing> Call 911!
L477[19:34:18] <Mic​hiyo> I don't think they do tech support.
L478[19:35:08] <Ar​iri> They've got to try, too many (virtual) lives are at stake!
L479[19:35:54] <Ar​iri> Or maybe just say your head is going to explode if things dont start working properly :p
L480[19:38:27] <Mic​hiyo> :P
L481[19:43:26] <Mic​hiyo> Moving forward I'll make my disks much smaller.. lol
L482[19:43:49] <Mic​hiyo> as on ESXi it seems I was JBOD, with proxmox looks like it properly supports RAID in the OVH config
L483[19:44:23] <Lizzy> if you're going with Proxmox and end up using ZFS, don't go for hardware raid
L484[19:44:29] <Mic​hiyo> @Lizzy-chan IIRC you said you use ZFS, did you configure it with hard raid, or let it
L485[19:44:29] <Mic​hiyo> ha
L486[19:44:33] <Mic​hiyo> I was just asking that :P
L487[19:44:56] <Lizzy> ZFS works better with direct access to the disks it's on, cause raid does various stuffs
L488[19:45:18] <Mic​hiyo> welp.. it doesn't look like it wants to let me
L489[19:45:29] <Mic​hiyo> Disk:
L490[19:45:29] <Mic​hiyo> 2 X Disk SATA 4000 GB, JBOD
L491[19:45:45] <Mic​hiyo> But the partition layout says it's 4.3TB, Used 8.5TB
L492[19:46:15] <Lizzy> errr, can't remember exactly how i set mine up, you might need to switch disks somehow
L493[19:46:34] <Mic​hiyo> Yep, the usual option for "Do the partition shit yourself" is missing <_<
L494[19:46:37] <Mic​hiyo> thanks OVH
L495[19:46:40] <Mic​hiyo> Why do I bother with you?
L496[19:46:47] <Mic​hiyo> Oh right.. because everyone else is 3x the price.
L497[19:46:51] <Lizzy> ^
L498[19:47:45] <Mic​hiyo> Ok.. so I had to go back, select the customize partition box THEN select proxmox
L499[19:49:05] <Mic​hiyo> http://tinyurl.com/yxjzo838
L500[19:49:06] <CompanionCube> so, everything was moved off in time or what?
L501[19:49:07] <Mic​hiyo> There we go
L502[19:49:22] <Lizzy> hmm
L503[19:49:26] <Mic​hiyo> It wanted me VERY sure that I wanted it to NOT use raid 1
L504[19:49:45] <Lizzy> can you format it as zfs from the templaty thing?
L505[19:50:17] <Mic​hiyo> CompanionCube, the webstuff was moved to Lizzy's box, I've got backups of the important stuff on various cloud options..
L506[19:50:22] <Mic​hiyo> I'm yanking the bandaid off
L507[19:50:44] <Mic​hiyo> Lizzy, I have XFS.. but not ZFS
L508[19:50:56] <Lizzy> IIRC i had to mess about a bit with my box because by default it had no zfs pool set up and was trying to dump everything into the /var/lib/vz folder
L509[19:51:14] <Mic​hiyo> I'm suddenly tempted to just go HyperV.
L510[19:51:15] <Mic​hiyo> :P
L511[19:51:44] <Lizzy> err, okay, might want to possibly shring the Ext4 parition perhaps and then leave space to create a zfs partition later
L512[19:52:04] <Lizzy> the zfs setup is probably a lot easier when OVH's shitty template shit isn't involved
L513[19:52:41] <Lizzy> i think i had to try using bits of proxmox's install guide but then guess/google when parts of it didn't line up because OVH
L514[19:52:46] <Mic​hiyo> do I need this partition? `/` houses t he proxmox stuff in theory , right?
L515[19:53:02] <Mic​hiyo> if I just nuke this partition totally install proxmox then use the free space that would work?
L516[19:53:06] <Lizzy> yes
L517[19:53:13] <Lizzy> that would work
L518[19:53:20] <Lizzy> i think that's essentially what i did in the end
L519[19:54:18] <Mic​hiyo> Ah, can't do that from here.
L520[19:54:22] <Mic​hiyo> so I'll just set it stupid low and go
L521[19:54:45] <Lizzy> yeah, ovh's stuff really doesn't help at all
L522[19:54:54] <Mic​hiyo> Ah, no I just couldn't delete it from the view I was in
L523[19:54:55] <Mic​hiyo> ._.
L524[19:54:58] <Mic​hiyo> I CAN delete it.
L525[19:55:26] <Lizzy> \o/
L526[19:56:42] <Mic​hiyo> Ok.. it's going
L527[19:59:03] <Lizzy> the way i have my partitions set up currently (no hardware raid cause NVMe): 512M EFI boot partition, 20G linux-md raid1'd partition, 1G of swap (no raid, probably should have more than that...) and then around 512GB of zfs pool
L528[19:59:31] <Lizzy> i think the zfs stuff is a little bigger in raw size, but that's what lsblk is telling me
L529[19:59:59] <Vexatos> I should probably use my first paycheck for some proper backups .-.
L530[20:00:12] <Lizzy> %calc 872/2
L531[20:00:13] <MichiBot> 872/2 => 436
L532[20:00:21] * Lizzy gives up with math
L533[20:01:10] <Lizzy> the numbers of df -h and zpool list don't add up but whatever
L534[20:01:12] <Vexatos> advanced arithmetic
L535[20:01:30] <Lizzy> hmm, how much do i pay ovh per month
L536[20:02:22] <CompanionCube> Lizzy: zpool list measures physical storage, df doesn't.
L537[20:02:28] <Lizzy> 130 gbp/mo
L538[20:03:17] <Mic​hiyo> Lizzy that config up there isn't your OVH config is it? Cause if so... I need to shrink my webshit waaay down lol
L539[20:04:14] <Lizzy> if by shring down you mean shrink your disk down, nah. the proxmox interface says i've got enough space to accomidate it and they're not fixed volumes
L540[20:04:34] <Lizzy> they only take up as much space is stored in them
L541[20:04:39] <Mic​hiyo> Vexatos, the great news is after all of this I have my panel set to backup all the webstuff to OneDrive nightly now... not just to the FTP server OVH gives me
L542[20:04:51] <Vexatos> onedrive for backup
L543[20:04:53] <Vexatos> is that allowe
L544[20:04:55] <Lizzy> maybe even less if the dedupe works how i think it does (probably doesnt)
L545[20:05:09] <Mic​hiyo> "allowed" it's such a.. strong word Vex.
L546[20:05:10] <Mic​hiyo> :P
L547[20:05:13] <Vexatos> pfft
L548[20:05:22] <Vexatos> I didn't expect it to have enough allowed bandwidth for that
L549[20:05:53] <Mic​hiyo> my full backups are ~104GB, my incrementals are ~5
L550[20:06:02] <Mic​hiyo> I do full backups every saturday, and incrementals every night
L551[20:06:13] <Vexatos> our backup solution at work is one of these external hard drives with a physical keypad on it for hardware decrypting just dangling off each workstation
L552[20:06:14] <Mic​hiyo> I keep 2 fulls, and 10 incrementals
L553[20:06:14] <Vexatos> beat that
L554[20:07:18] <Mic​hiyo> Waiting for services to be up ( 11 / 13 )
L555[20:07:21] <Corded> * <Mic​hiyo> wiats moar
L556[20:07:35] <Lizzy> a video i was watching the other day had a data storage solution as their sponser, the prices seemed like they would be reasonable from the sponser spot but i can't for the life of me remember who ti was or what video it was on
L557[20:08:33] <Vexatos> our data cannot be stored off site
L558[20:08:38] <Vexatos> for secrecy reasons
L559[20:08:48] <Vexatos> so this is literally the best we got apart from buying a NAS
L560[20:08:56] <Vexatos> which I don't think my professor knows exist
L561[20:12:44] <Vexatos> for the price of seven of those we could have totally gotten a NAS
L562[20:13:00] <Lizzy> damn, can't find the video or the name :(
L563[20:18:15] <Lizzy> backblaze!
L564[20:18:22] <Lizzy> that's what i was thinking of
L565[20:19:23] <Lizzy> %calc 60/12
L566[20:19:24] <MichiBot> 60/12 => 5
L567[20:20:50] <Ar​iri> Michiyo: I was thinking of using Onedrive as an off-site backup, but I've got a lot of data and don't particularly trust their privacy stuff (partly why I made a Nextcloud in the first place), do you have anything you use/recommend for encrypting or otherwise obscuring backups and uploading them monthly?
L568[20:21:43] <Ar​iri> I have 1TB already included in my Office 365, so space is not an issue (my snapraid totals to about 1.1TB, but I dont need to backup everything)
L569[20:23:21] <Mic​hiyo> @Ariri the webstuff backups are encrypted by Plesk
L570[20:23:36] <Mic​hiyo> for the stuff I just dumped here for this move, I just zipped it... didn't even bother with a password <_<
L571[20:25:20] <Ar​iri> Hmm okay... and what was recommended over Plesk, Proxmox I believe?
L572[20:25:20] <Ar​iri> Honestly I've got to scour for books and stuff to teach myself too, because otherwise I have little idea where to start with VM management and such
L573[20:25:28] <Lizzy> i'm just looking through backblaze's stuff, their personal tier is $6/mo per computer for 'unlimited' storage (unsure if truly unlimited or not)
L574[20:25:37] <Ar​iri> Its probably exactly what I need given how many times ive buggered stuff up
L575[20:25:49] <Lizzy> plesk is for managing website/dns hosting, proxmox is for managing containers and vms
L576[20:26:43] <Mic​hiyo> ^^
L577[20:27:08] <Mic​hiyo> I use plesk because I host websites for a handful of people, and don't want to have to make changes for them, or give them access to everyones stuff
L578[20:27:32] <Ar​iri> Oh
L579[20:27:36] <Lizzy> %calc 115*4
L580[20:27:36] <MichiBot> 115*4 => 460
L581[20:27:49] <Mic​hiyo> got SO annoying when people would be like hey I need another email! wait no I need a DIFFERENT email! no DNS change!
L582[20:27:56] <Mic​hiyo> wait, I can't access this file..
L583[20:27:59] <Mic​hiyo> ._.
L584[20:28:26] <Ar​iri> ruh roh
L585[20:28:55] <Mic​hiyo> Yeah, so it got super annoying and I tried a handful of free panels all with some success...
L586[20:29:04] <Mic​hiyo> but then I said fuck it and dropped $15 a month on Plesk
L587[20:29:11] <Mic​hiyo> made my life SO much easier
L588[20:29:17] <Mic​hiyo> OK, I have Proxmox...
L589[20:29:20] <Mic​hiyo> WTF IS THIS?! lol
L590[20:30:05] <Corded> * <Mic​hiyo> blinks at this panel
L591[20:30:21] <Lizzy> wow, looking at backblaze' calculator for nas/server backup (probably the one to use for server backup instead of cheesing the personal one), my backup stuff would only cost me around 30$ a year
L592[20:30:45] <Mic​hiyo> Ok... I need to figure out how to add a ZFS pool it seems
L593[20:31:11] <Mic​hiyo> cause Storage -> Add -> ZFS wants a ZFS Pool
L594[20:31:45] <Lizzy> ah, that you will need to do the standard linux terminal way
L595[20:31:54] <Lizzy> i think proxmox has guides for it
L596[20:32:01] <Mic​hiyo> ah
L597[20:32:01] <Mic​hiyo> k
L598[20:32:06] <Lizzy> _normally_ you'd set that up during the install
L599[20:32:26] <Lizzy> but because OVH... well i don't need to continue that sentence do i?
L600[20:32:33] <Mic​hiyo> lol
L601[20:34:01] <Mic​hiyo> OH SHIT SON... I have apt.
L602[20:34:14] <Mic​hiyo> So much nicer than the shit ESXi shell with... nothing
L603[20:34:21] <Lizzy> heh, yep
L604[20:34:36] <Lizzy> it's technically a full debian system underneath
L605[20:34:47] <Mic​hiyo> shiiiiit
L606[20:34:48] <Mic​hiyo> nice
L607[20:34:49] <Mic​hiyo> lol
L608[20:35:48] * Lizzy sigh
L609[20:36:11] * Lizzy is annoyed that OVH is miles cheaper than anything she'd be able to do with home hosting
L610[20:36:51] <Lizzy> and that's _just_ going off the internet pricing to have something "business" grade
L611[20:37:08] <Lizzy> well, from a company that i'd trust with that sort of thing
L612[20:40:17] <Mic​hiyo> I would TOTALLY home host...
L613[20:40:18] <CompanionCube> creating a zpool isn't difficult though
L614[20:40:22] <Mic​hiyo> if I could get more than 1 ipv4
L615[20:40:39] <Mic​hiyo> CompainionCube, I'm having to look up how, inbetween work stuff
L616[20:40:43] <Mic​hiyo> never done it
L617[20:40:48] <Mic​hiyo> I've never even TOUCHED zfs
L618[20:41:00] <CompanionCube> it's one comand
L619[20:41:04] <Mic​hiyo> linux side I've used Ext3/4 lol
L620[20:41:06] <CompanionCube> 'zpool create mirror <disk1> <disk2>'
L621[20:41:15] <CompanionCube> add on your zpool's name too
L622[20:41:45] <Lizzy> if my work's building was taller, i might have been tempted to see if i could strike some form of deal with the network guy and just have a lazer/directional wifi link to my house, but sadly trees and other buildings are in the way for that i think
L623[20:41:58] <CompanionCube> for a more thorough overview, https://old.reddit.com/r/zfs/comments/fn5ugg/zfs_topology_faq_whats_a_zpool_whats_a_vdev/
L624[20:42:16] <Mic​hiyo> yeah, I'm not 100% on disk1/disk2 etc.. so I'm reading :P
L625[20:42:38] <CompanionCube> recommendation is to use e.g. /dev/disk/by-id
L626[20:48:54] <Mic​hiyo> last thing I wanna do is half ass this, get burned and have to re-do setup, so I'm reading along heh
L627[20:49:15] <Lizzy> i'll be honest, i kinda wish i could re-do my stuff
L628[20:49:44] <Lizzy> in which i would boot into the recovery environment and do the install myself manually cause fuck OVH's shit
L629[20:49:54] <Mic​hiyo> Am.. I going to have an issue with the fact that proxmox is installed on one of the drives I'm about to use for this pool? lol
L630[20:50:03] <Ar​iri> o.o
L631[20:50:13] <Mic​hiyo> sigh
L632[20:51:33] <Lizzy> err, don't use the disks directly, make partitions on the disk for zfs to use
L633[20:51:38] <Mic​hiyo> Download: 862.96 Mbit/s
L634[20:51:39] <Mic​hiyo> Upload: 588.89 Mbit/s
L635[20:51:48] <Mic​hiyo> can confirm... this is NOT limited like ESXi was lol
L636[20:52:34] <Ar​iri> stop making me jealous
L637[20:53:06] <Lizzy> i managed to find an iperf3 server that i could get 1GB in and around 8GB/s out to it (my dedi has some weird-ass 10G down 1G up stuff, no idea why)
L638[20:53:09] <Ar​iri> D:
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L642[22:23:04] <Mic​hiyo> sighs
L643[22:23:12] <Mic​hiyo> Ever feel like you're just in over your head? lol
L644[22:23:23] <Forec​aster> no, never
L645[22:23:36] <Forec​aster> I just kick things until they do what I want
L646[22:24:14] <Forec​aster> speaking of which, I hope the last case fan in my server lasts another month...
L647[22:24:34] <Forec​aster> one is dead since a while ago, and the last one is spinning... intermittently...
L648[22:24:59] <Forec​aster> I think I'll need to replace them as soon as I can order new ones
L649[22:26:52] <Mic​hiyo> I think I'm gonna switch to Hyper-V ._.
L650[22:29:37] <Cybern​ewtonDS> OC 1.7.5.212 here. I have relays configured as follows, but the computer I'm using to listen to inbound modem_messages is not receiving anything. As it turns out, it doesn't seem the linked relays are transferring messages at all:
L651[22:29:37] <Cybern​ewtonDS> R1 - cable - R2(linked card) R3(linked card) - cable - R4 - Computer
L652[22:29:37] <Cybern​ewtonDS> I've confirmed that R2 and R3 have matching linked cards and that the Computer has a network card. Do I need to put anything else inside my relays for them to work?
L653[22:29:47] <Cybern​ewtonDS> OC 1.7.5.212 here. I have relays configured as follows, but the computer I'm using to listen to inbound modem_messages is not receiving anything. As it turns out, it doesn't seem the linked relays are transferring messages at all:
L654[22:29:47] <Cybern​ewtonDS> R1 - cable - R2(linked card) R3(linked card) - cable - R4 - cable -Computer
L655[22:29:47] <Cybern​ewtonDS> I've confirmed that R2 and R3 have matching linked cards and that the Computer has a network card. Do I need to put anything else inside my relays for them to work? [Edited]
L656[22:29:52] <Cybern​ewtonDS> OC 1.7.5.212 here. I have relays configured as follows, but the computer I'm using to listen to inbound modem_messages is not receiving anything. As it turns out, it doesn't seem the linked relays are transferring messages at all:
L657[22:29:52] <Cybern​ewtonDS> R1 - cable - R2(linked card) R3(linked card) - cable - R4 - cable - Computer
L658[22:29:52] <Cybern​ewtonDS> I've confirmed that R2 and R3 have matching linked cards and that the Computer has a network card. Do I need to put anything else inside my relays for them to work? [Edited]
L659[22:31:39] <CompanionCube> Michiyo: not going too well?
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L661[22:34:50] <Ar​iri> Whats wrong with Hyper-V?
L662[22:35:05] <Ar​iri> Isnt that the CPU thing for virtualization
L663[22:35:35] <Mic​hiyo> @CybernewtonDS You're not the first to try this and find that same situation IIRC. Though I don't think we've ever got confirmation that it's supposed to work either.. @payonel may need to weigh in if he knows
L664[22:35:48] <Mic​hiyo> @Ariri Hyper-V is the microsoft hypervisor
L665[22:36:31] <Ar​iri> Oh- I see the reluctance now
L666[22:36:34] <Forec​aster> Aaaand my internet is down again... great
L667[22:36:38] <Mic​hiyo> I use Hyper-V @ home
L668[22:38:51] <Ar​iri> My poor desktop has a 18 day uptime, but ive been far too busy (relatively speaking, bc Michiyo's working hours put mine to shame) and have too much unsaved work to restart it
L669[22:38:51] <Ar​iri> 298 processes and 251000 handles, idling at 40%
L670[22:39:14] <super​minor2> > Download: 862.96 Mbit/s
L671[22:39:14] <super​minor2> > Upload: 588.89 Mbit/s
L672[22:39:14] <super​minor2> @Michiyo Holy cow, no kidding
L673[22:39:18] <super​minor2> That is way better
L674[22:39:26] <Mic​hiyo> ESXi was limited to like 300 KB/s up
L675[22:39:28] <Mic​hiyo> tops.
L676[22:39:33] <Ar​iri> What was it before?
L677[22:39:33] <Ar​iri> oh- wow
L678[22:39:44] <pay​onel> relays with linked link cards share modem messages.
L679[22:39:46] <Mic​hiyo> the VMs had full bandwidth, but the ESXI management console is HARSHLY limited
L680[22:40:04] <Ar​iri> Why so, out of curiosity?
L681[22:40:30] <Mic​hiyo> For more resources for the guests... which is bull, if I have everything shutdown the hypervisor should not be limited
L682[22:40:55] <Cybern​ewtonDS> @Michiyo Thank you
L683[22:40:55] <Cybern​ewtonDS> @payonel Understood. However, my second relay is not forwarding modem_messages to the third relay. I think I found a bug
L684[22:40:56] <Ar​iri> ah
L685[22:41:24] <pay​onel> @CybernewtonDS if you can bundle a save world repro i can look at it tonight
L686[22:41:49] <pay​onel> ideally, oc only if that's not too much trouble
L687[22:42:04] <Cybern​ewtonDS> @payonel I'll have to replicate it on an offline world since I found this issue on multiplayer, but sure
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L689[22:44:35] <Mic​hiyo> blergh
L690[22:46:01] <Mic​hiyo> Ok, so I've made my pair of 3.6TB partitions.. now to slap zfs around
L691[22:46:19] <Cybern​ewtonDS> @payonel I'll have to replicate it on an offline world since I found this issue on multiplayer, but will do [Edited]
L692[22:53:02] <Forec​aster> Sigh, restarting the router didn't help, so I guess I'm calling my ISP tomorrow :|
L693[22:53:11] <Mic​hiyo> Ok.. so now i have my pool.. and proxmox promptly ignores it.
L694[22:53:55] <Forec​aster> It doesn't want a bath right now
L695[22:55:43] <Corded> * <Mic​hiyo> pokes @Lizzy-chan
L696[22:57:28] <Ar​iri> %blame the density, rho, of water
L697[22:57:28] * MichiBot blames the density, rho, of water for slow internet speeds
L698[22:58:03] <Forec​aster> Who do I blame for no internet D:
L699[22:58:37] <Ar​iri> The Lorax, who speaks for the trees jamming all the wee-fees
L700[23:00:03] <Mic​hiyo> proxmox remotes my "vol0" has 3.5TB ZFS with "Disk Image, Container"
L701[23:00:17] <Mic​hiyo> but if I try to make a VM or Container it wants to put it on the 40GB partition
L702[23:00:42] <Lizzy> sorry, only just saw the discord ping, lemme read backlog
L703[23:00:59] <Mic​hiyo> proxmox shows my "vol0" has 3.5TB ZFS with "Disk Image, Container" [Edited]
L704[23:02:20] <Mic​hiyo> Also.. I just found where to make the ZFS pool in the proxmox ui
L705[23:02:21] <Mic​hiyo> lmfao
L706[23:02:35] <Mic​hiyo> Looks like I still would have had to do the partitioning myself but meh :p
L707[23:03:13] <Lizzy> if you run `zpool status`, you should see your pool listed and then something similar to the following (will post via discord)
L708[23:03:39] <Lizzy​-chan> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/erupuyudiv
L709[23:03:52] <Mic​hiyo> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/exacopaxeb
L710[23:04:08] <Lizzy​-chan> ok good, that shows okay
L711[23:05:21] <Lizzy​-chan> in proxmox, under the "disks" section of your main server, you should see a zfs option. if it doesn't already show the pool, hit the refresh and it should appear
L712[23:05:22] <Mic​hiyo> Wait, I think it's suddenly decided to work.
L713[23:06:11] <Mic​hiyo> See, the issue with a technomancer with their own tech is eventually your stuff gets used to your tech aura, so it ignores it.
L714[23:06:19] <Mic​hiyo> the second you bring another technomancer in, suddenly it works.
L715[23:06:20] <Lizzy​-chan> err?
L716[23:06:23] <Lizzy​-chan> oh, haha
L717[23:06:46] <Mic​hiyo> Technomancers man
L718[23:06:57] <Mic​hiyo> People don't believe in the Tech Aura... it's a thing :P
L719[23:07:16] <Lizzy​-chan> yeah, i've fixed many a computer at work simply by being in it's presence
L720[23:07:25] <Lizzy​-chan> even did it to my old supervisor a couple of years back
L721[23:08:07] <Mic​hiyo> Yeah, looks like I just need to get my disk images, and I'll be good
L722[23:08:17] <Mic​hiyo> Thanks Lizzy, sorry for being a pest
L723[23:08:50] <Lizzy​-chan> back to proxmox: once you've got the pool listed under the zfs, go to datacenter> Storage and make sure you have the pool added there
L724[23:09:11] <Mic​hiyo> yep it's there
L725[23:09:25] <Mic​hiyo> "vol0 | ZFS | Disk Image, Container"
L726[23:09:25] <Lizzy​-chan> https://files.lizzian.uk/zion/200902_87ec4d49464.png should look something like this
L727[23:09:31] <Lizzy​-chan> awesome
L728[23:09:45] <Lizzy​-chan> now when you're making containers/vms, just choose that as the target
L729[23:10:32] <Lizzy​-chan> hmm, though getting the disk images into zfs' pool might be a bit fun for you
L730[23:10:54] <Mic​hiyo> ahh, looks like I'mma need to setup templates and the like now
L731[23:11:07] <Lizzy​-chan> depends on how small your non-zfs partitions are
L732[23:11:15] <Mic​hiyo> the primary is 40GB
L733[23:11:28] <Lizzy​-chan> okay, so you have a bit more space to work with than i did
L734[23:12:04] <Mic​hiyo> Oh, damn it..
L735[23:12:13] <Mic​hiyo> Storage: Local 33.9GB
L736[23:14:01] <super​minor2> 3.5TB? nice
L737[23:16:44] <Lizzy> bare with me, wall of text will be incomming i just need to find a command i last used
L738[23:18:04] <super​minor2> Is this the first time you have used ZFS?
L739[23:18:10] <Mic​hiyo> Yeah
L740[23:19:07] <super​minor2> I like it pretty well. I still think btrfs is easier to work with though.
L741[23:19:07] <super​minor2> I migrated my NAS to zfs because I wanted to use FreeNAS to manage it. It has been running really good for about two years now
L742[23:19:25] <super​minor2> Then I started using zfs for my proxmox data stores as well
L743[23:20:03] <Mic​hiyo> yeah this is my first time messing with proxmox and zfs.. I've just used ESXi (Never again...) and HyperV, or just consumer crap like VirtualBox and the like
L744[23:20:24] <Lizzy​-chan> Message contained 4 or more newlines and was pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/ofunepibaf
L745[23:20:51] <Lizzy​-chan> Message contained 4 or more newlines and was pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/aqoqixifen
L746[23:20:59] <Mic​hiyo> Yeah, I've scrapped all of my pre-existing VMDKs
L747[23:21:19] <Mic​hiyo> anything that I didn't upload to various locations is gone.
L748[23:21:28] <Lizzy​-chan> ah, okay
L749[23:21:49] <Lizzy​-chan> if you've just got files backed up and no raw disk images, then you wont need to do the steps above
L750[23:22:03] <super​minor2> Maybe check that you have thin provisioning turned on first though
L751[23:22:07] <super​minor2> http://tinyurl.com/y4dop8dp
L752[23:22:16] <Lizzy​-chan> oh yeah ^ turn that on
L753[23:22:45] <Mic​hiyo> So like ATM, I'm looking to spin up a Ubuntu 20.04 VM, I hit create container, and then get to the "Template" tab, (I don't have any templates.. gonna need to fix that I guess) but the Storage option only has one entry "Local" the 33 GB partition proxmox itself is on
L754[23:22:47] <Lizzy​-chan> @superminor2 how much ram does your nas have and is it using zfs? I was thinking of possibly using zfs on my home server but right now it only has (it's max) of 8GB
L755[23:22:50] <Mic​hiyo> I can't select the ZFS
L756[23:23:01] <Lizzy​-chan> errm
L757[23:23:25] <Mic​hiyo> and yeah, Thin Provision is on
L758[23:23:44] <Lizzy​-chan> templates are easy to fix, go to the local storage in the sidebar > content > click templates then grab what you want
L759[23:23:50] <Mic​hiyo> https://drive.pc-logix.com/s/okMFpJp73iBr64f
L760[23:24:54] <Lizzy​-chan> okay, so it should let you go with the zfs option. err
L761[23:24:54] <Lizzy​-chan> in the local entry there, deselect `disk image` and `container` from it
L762[23:25:01] <Lizzy​-chan> should force it to go to zfs then
L763[23:25:05] <Lizzy​-chan> also ow my eyes
L764[23:25:14] <super​minor2> @Lizzy-chan 4 8tb drives. Two sets of mirrored vdevs. 16gb ECC ram
L765[23:25:48] <Mic​hiyo> After deselecting 'em "Local 33.9GB"
L766[23:26:05] <super​minor2> Are you just stuck on the templates page?
L767[23:26:06] <Mic​hiyo> Yeah.. dark reader got disabled
L768[23:26:09] <Mic​hiyo> I think chrome hated me :p
L769[23:26:23] <Mic​hiyo> I still have to GET templates it appears, so that's next.
L770[23:26:27] <super​minor2> Yeah do that first
L771[23:26:40] <super​minor2> It is just showing you the small storage because it expects the templates to be stored there
L772[23:26:50] <super​minor2> It should let you pick the big one for the actual storage in the next step
L773[23:26:51] <Mic​hiyo> ah..
L774[23:26:58] <Lizzy​-chan> hmm, okay. i've got an 8TB, 2 3TB's (currently seperate, wanna combine them in some way) though i might just stick with btrfs for that
L775[23:27:36] <Lizzy​-chan> what super said, grab the templates first cause they'll download to the local storage, then under "root disk" is where you select the zfs shiz
L776[23:27:40] <super​minor2> Oh yeah, big advantage to btrfs is that it is more flexible in sizes than zfs. I can't think of a good way to do that unless you get another 8tb
L777[23:27:57] <Amanda> %choose click-click-click-click-click WHEEEEEE or put the laptop away
L778[23:27:58] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Some "click-click-click-click-click WHEEEEEE" sounds nice
L779[23:28:12] <Amanda> first: Halucinations
L780[23:28:13] <Lizzy​-chan> the chassis can't (well, not without it hanging loose) support another drive
L781[23:28:18] <super​minor2> Message contained 4 or more newlines and was pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/pivesuqora
L782[23:28:20] <Lizzy​-chan> plus 8TB drives are expensive
L783[23:28:23] <S3> LOL
L784[23:28:33] <S3> I just noticed Lizzy chan
L785[23:28:35] <S3> that's great
L786[23:28:36] <super​minor2> Probably have to select those again
L787[23:28:51] <Lizzy​-chan> @superminor2 i have disk image and container de-selected for my local storage
L788[23:29:05] <super​minor2> Wtf, I don't know how that works
L789[23:29:06] <Lizzy​-chan> see https://files.lizzian.uk/zion/200902_87ec4d49464.png
L790[23:29:22] <Lizzy​-chan> my zfs pool is for the disk image and containers
L791[23:29:38] <super​minor2> Oh shoot, I see now. I thought you were saying to disable disk image on the ZFS
L792[23:29:44] <super​minor2> Sorry haha
L793[23:29:58] <super​minor2> Yeah that would be fine to disable on local of course
L794[23:30:00] <super​minor2> I will just go hide
L795[23:30:00] <Lizzy​-chan> lrn2read stupid 😛
L796[23:30:04] <Mic​hiyo> Ok, finally pulled my fucking eyes out, and found the damn Templates download thingy
L797[23:30:06] <Lizzy​-chan> ❤️
L798[23:30:18] <Lizzy​-chan> hurah
L799[23:30:26] <Lizzy​-chan> yeah, finding the templates was a fun game for me
L800[23:30:58] <Mic​hiyo> didn't think to select DC -> Victory -> Local (Victory) -> Content -> Templates..
L801[23:30:58] <Mic​hiyo> lol
L802[23:31:19] <super​minor2> You should use the template called archlinux-base btw
L803[23:31:24] <Mic​hiyo> HUZZAH!
L804[23:31:26] <Mic​hiyo> No..
L805[23:31:37] <Mic​hiyo> No I don't think I will @superminor2
L806[23:31:50] <Mic​hiyo> Yes, NOW for "Root Disk" it shows vol0
L807[23:31:52] <Mic​hiyo> \o/
L808[23:32:14] <super​minor2> But don't you want a bleeding edge server?
L809[23:32:36] <Lizzy​-chan> yeah, for now i would recommend against arch linux containers, unless they've fixed the bug that they/systemd seems to have where network interfaces don't come up on boot without a manual config adjustment
L810[23:32:54] <Mic​hiyo> I.. have never ONCE had arch work for me.
L811[23:33:10] <Mic​hiyo> even the VM that Lizzy MADE for me to try to fix a sound issue in.. OpenFM? I think
L812[23:33:17] <Mic​hiyo> yeah, booted fine for her, LOLNOPED at me
L813[23:33:23] <Lizzy​-chan> yeah, i think it was openfm
L814[23:34:21] <super​minor2> I was just being a dumbass haha, I would use debian or ubuntu containers on proxmox
L815[23:35:36] <Corded> * <Lizzy​-chan> laughs in mariadb cluster on arch containers
L816[23:36:05] <super​minor2> Now that's living on the edge
L817[23:36:20] <Lizzy​-chan> i mean, there's 3 of them so there's some redundancy
L818[23:36:36] <Mic​hiyo> `Welcome to Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (GNU/Linux 5.4.55-1-pve x86_64)`
L819[23:36:37] <Mic​hiyo> \o/
L820[23:37:00] <Mic​hiyo> Now grab a server 2019 ISO from MS
L821[23:37:02] <Ar​iri> reminds me i should dist upgrade to get the new openssh for my server
L822[23:37:02] <Lizzy​-chan> though i'm thinking of scrapping those and just doing a single primary-replica setup with the replica being for frequent backups/snapshots
L823[23:37:04] <Mic​hiyo> and make a VM.
L824[23:37:35] <Ar​iri> screw it, im not risking more problems than I can fix now, and have no real backups
L825[23:38:16] <Izaya> good news everyone!
L826[23:38:39] <Izaya> I had no debian 8 containers or VMs running by the time debian 8 hit EOL
L827[23:38:47] <Mic​hiyo> \o/
L828[23:39:01] <Ar​iri> woot
L829[23:39:11] <Izaya> now I have to worry about debian 9 EOL
L830[23:39:16] <Izaya> because I still have a few of those
L831[23:40:39] <Mic​hiyo> `HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 403 Forbidden`
L832[23:40:49] <Mic​hiyo> god damn it Microsoft.. let me pirat....... download your ISOs
L833[23:41:30] <Lizzy​-chan> if it wont let you download it stright to the server, you can try downloading to your pc then uploading to the local storage area
L834[23:41:36] <Lizzy​-chan> (button next to the templates)
L835[23:42:28] <Mic​hiyo> Eh, the link I had was outdated
L836[23:42:39] <Mic​hiyo> <3 direct MS downloads..
L837[23:42:43] <Mic​hiyo> 250 MB/s
L838[23:42:48] <Mic​hiyo> DING isos done.
L839[23:44:06] <Ar​iri> gets the pizza cutter
L840[23:44:26] <Mic​hiyo> But I'm not pizza!
L841[23:46:28] <super​minor2> Are you telling me you didn't purchase data center licenses for server 2019 for this project? I'm calling M$
L842[23:46:46] <Mic​hiyo> This .bat file I have right here says that I'm FULLY licensed.
L843[23:47:08] <super​minor2> I assume it is a .bat file that types in your data center license key?
L844[23:47:10] <Izaya> Government sanctioned pirate, just look at this letter.
L845[23:47:41] <Mic​hiyo> `if %i%==1 set KMS_Sev=`
L846[23:47:51] <Mic​hiyo> I mean.. it does that and more @superminor2 :P
L847[23:47:57] <Vexatos> those people are called buccaneers, Izaya
L848[23:48:07] <super​minor2> Indeed
L849[23:49:06] <Mic​hiyo> Sadly though a decent chunk of what I do needs Windows.
L850[23:49:12] <Mic​hiyo> So, here I am.
L851[23:49:13] <Mic​hiyo> lol
L852[23:49:42] <Ar​iri> cries in MS-DOS
L853[23:50:00] * Vexatos laughs in powershell
L854[23:50:23] <Vexatos> gradient.ps1 my favourite
L855[23:50:29] <Ar​iri> Terminal in Windows is only about 10 years late
L856[23:50:52] <Ar​iri> and thank the heavens it has ubuntu sub-sys support
L857[23:51:08] <Izaya> > 10
L858[23:51:10] <Izaya> I think you mean 40
L859[23:51:49] <S3> superminor2 I wouldn't call M$
L860[23:51:52] <S3> They are assholes
L861[23:51:57] <Ar​iri> Yeah pretty much, was just giving it the typical microsoft leeway
L862[23:51:57] <Ar​iri> The Windows update notices are somehow a perfect combination of annoying but ignorable
L863[23:52:15] <S3> they once paid $1000 to send two guys across the US to sue some guy who pirated XP, for $1000.
L864[23:52:19] <S3> just to prove a point
L865[23:52:39] <Izaya> piracy is an important part of the microsoft strategy
L866[23:53:22] <Cybern​ewtonDS> @payonel Where should I post the creative world demonstrating the possible bug?
L867[23:53:25] <S3> Thing is Microsoft doesn't care about individual damages due to piracy as much as you think. They care about throwing their weight around. When Ballmer was in charge it was even worse
L868[23:54:43] <Ar​iri> Cool, 250000 handles and still climbing.. thats like 40000+ in 2 hours?
L869[23:56:48] <Mic​hiyo> wow.. gotta say...
L870[23:57:07] <Mic​hiyo> Proxmox made static IP setup easy enough :p
L871[23:57:23] <Lizzy​-chan> yup
L872[23:57:25] <Mic​hiyo> for one IP anyway, not bothered with adding others.. but I set the mac and IP when I made the container, and internet.. worked.
L873[23:57:43] <Mic​hiyo> not poked IPv6 yet though
L874[23:57:58] <Lizzy​-chan> ipv6 setup is fairly similar
L875[23:58:09] <Mic​hiyo> that is SO much nicer than ESXi.. :P
L876[23:58:48] <Lizzy​-chan> for the linux containers at least, just do the same as you did previously (grab the gateway from your host and stick that in the network details as the gateway
L877[23:59:07] <Mic​hiyo> yep
L878[23:59:20] <Mic​hiyo> windows was still the same, but I never had to mess with routes there
L879[23:59:23] <Mic​hiyo> so it was easy enough
L880[23:59:28] <Mic​hiyo> slap IP / gateway in and done
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