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L2[00:06:36] <AdorableCatgirl> AAAAA
L3[00:06:49] <AdorableCatgirl> i'm waiting for qt5 to install on my dedicated OBD2 scanner laptop
L4[00:07:09] <AdorableCatgirl> where i can scan codes and see what they fuck they mean by googling them
L5[00:07:36] <CompanionCube> w00t
L6[00:07:41] <CompanionCube> what's the broader goal here?
L7[00:07:43] <AdorableCatgirl> i give zero fucks if google tracks what i'm searching on this pos because i only will need to google car related things
L8[00:07:46] <AdorableCatgirl> oh
L9[00:07:50] <AdorableCatgirl> the tool i wanna use needs qt5
L10[00:08:03] <AdorableCatgirl> my accord has the check engine light on
L11[00:08:04] <AdorableCatgirl> so
L12[00:08:04] <AdorableCatgirl> lmao
L13[00:08:40] <AdorableCatgirl> anyways, it's a cute little toshiba satellite l745 with an i3
L14[00:10:26] <CompanionCube> neat
L15[00:10:44] <AdorableCatgirl> ffs
L16[00:11:01] <AdorableCatgirl> it won't let me use /dev/ttyUSB0
L17[00:11:25] <AdorableCatgirl> oh i'm an idiot
L18[00:11:26] <AdorableCatgirl> wow
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L23[00:28:09] <AdorableCatgirl> okay!
L24[00:28:20] <AdorableCatgirl> i'm here and i know what's going on
L25[00:28:57] <AdorableCatgirl> "evap control system leak detected (control canister system)"
L26[00:29:13] <AdorableCatgirl> the other DTC is the magic rear o2 sensor so
L27[00:29:33] <AdorableCatgirl> that's probably not an issue
L28[00:29:52] <AdorableCatgirl> also i've decided i need to make my own obd2 scanner thing
L29[00:30:24] <AdorableCatgirl> because all the others suck and i want something that can display straight to the framebuffer
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L31[00:43:34] <Amanda> %ping
L32[00:43:36] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Ama​nda 0.04s
L33[00:43:43] <Amanda> Okay then, discord must just be angry at me
L34[00:43:58] <Amanda> @Forecaster cut off mid-sentence, I look back at my phone and it says "Connecting: "
L35[00:45:12] <Amanda> oh wel,l going to unplug and veg out to some youtube, maybe halucinate some
L36[00:51:12] <Forec​aster> and I'm going to go to bed, because suddenly it's almost 2 am for some reason
L37[00:51:34] <Forec​aster> I can't imagine how that happened
L38[00:55:10] <Forec​aster> %remindme 10h look at that evade check that failed to parse
L39[00:55:10] <MichiBot> I'll remind you about "look at that evade check that failed to parse" at 07/03/2020 02:55:10 AM
L40[01:08:14] <Ocawes​ome101> fuchas is uh
L41[01:08:21] <Ocawes​ome101> still not consumer ready, i'd say
L42[01:08:27] <Ocawes​ome101> missing commands, etc
L43[01:08:28] <Ocawes​ome101> then again
L44[01:08:31] <Ocawes​ome101> neither is monolith
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L46[01:35:03] <METALFUTURE9728> I am typing this from within Minecraft, can anyone see this?
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L49[01:42:12] <Ocawes​ome101> ...
L50[01:42:21] <Ocawes​ome101> yes we can, but you'll only know that if you stick around
L51[01:55:22] <Lizzy> %tonk
L52[01:55:22] <MichiBot> Dagnammit! Li​zzy! You beat Ar​iri's previous record of 1 hour, 40 minutes and 17 seconds (By 3 hours, 49 minutes and 11 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L53[01:55:23] <MichiBot> Lizzy's new record is 5 hours, 29 minutes and 28 seconds! Lizzy also gained 0.00764 (0.00382 x 2) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #4. Need 0.12727 more points to pass Forec​aster!
L54[01:56:19] <Amanda> @Forecaster crazy how time do that though
L55[01:57:59] <Ocawes​ome101> Izaya: do you still have your term-in-VT100 impl?
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L59[02:59:17] <Izaya> Ocawesome101: ???
L60[03:04:50] <Izaya> also, re: pkgfs but for linux, see squashfs
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L63[04:18:45] <Michiyo> Bleh... I just can't E:D. It's fun but frustrating
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L67[04:36:15] <Ocawes​ome101> Izaya: i seem to remember a while back you linked an implementation of the `term` API which was using VT100 codes
L68[04:36:28] <Izaya> oh it's probably somewhere
L69[04:36:42] <Ocawes​ome101> i've tried discord search
L70[04:36:44] <Ocawes​ome101> didn't find it
L71[04:36:50] <Izaya> probably on 0x0
L72[04:37:21] <Ocawes​ome101> thats what i'm looking for now
L73[04:45:31] <Izaya> IIRC it was fairly easy to implement
L74[04:46:18] <Ocawes​ome101> meh, can't find it
L75[04:46:25] <Ocawes​ome101> yeah, i'll just make my own
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L77[05:05:28] <Ocawesome101> henlo
L78[05:09:46] <Izaya> ey
L79[05:11:57] <Parad​oxical> Does anyone have some good programs for survival?
L80[05:12:15] <Parad​oxical> I mean like what’s useful
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L82[05:34:17] * Ocawesome101 sighs
L83[05:34:28] <Ocawesome101> openirc doesn't like monolith apparently
L84[05:37:57] <Ocawesome101> or
L85[05:38:01] <Ocawesome101> maybe it doesn't like ocvm
L86[05:49:39] <Ocawesome101> eyy
L87[05:49:47] <Ocawesome101> we got blinking cursor now bois
L88[06:12:25] <Izaya> blinking cursor is overrated
L89[06:12:28] <Izaya> but nice
L90[06:12:33] <Ocawesome101> :P
L91[06:12:36] <Ocawesome101> it's kinda hacky
L92[06:12:56] <Ocawesome101> but i made it toggleable via /etc/getty.conf
L93[06:16:07] * Izaya shrugs
L94[06:16:18] <Izaya> I figure it's a waste of a component call and doesn't really add anything
L95[06:16:22] <Izaya> but it is nice to look at
L96[06:16:46] <Ocawesome101> yeah, i'm considering turning it off by default
L97[06:19:32] <Gala​xtone> Where is the documentation on how component call delays work
L98[06:19:37] <Gala​xtone> like how many you can do per tick
L99[06:19:57] <Izaya> I've been meaning to include AmandaC's patch for spewing Minitel syslog to real syslog
L100[06:22:11] <Ocawesome101> @Galaxtone it usually depends on their real-world cost iirc
L101[06:22:25] <Ocawesome101> i.e. bitblt costs a lot because it takes a while to sync over the network
L102[06:22:31] <Gala​xtone> I'm trying to find documentation on the wiki and i'm not having the best time
L103[06:22:40] <Gala​xtone> Is it usually per component?
L104[06:22:47] <Gala​xtone> because I'm trying to figure out network card speeds
L105[06:23:22] <Izaya> I think I worked out 160KB/s in an ideal situation
L106[06:23:26] <Izaya> but I may be wrong
L107[06:24:02] <Gala​xtone> I'm wondering stuff like
L108[06:24:09] <Gala​xtone> sending 10 bytes in 10 calls
L109[06:24:12] <Gala​xtone> vs 100 bytes in 1 call
L110[06:24:35] <Ocawesome101> 100 bytes in 1 call is gonna be ~1000x more efficient, probably
L111[06:24:52] <Izaya> can confirm
L112[06:25:39] <Izaya> writing a remote shell program, it was a lot faster to batch writes and send them every cycle rather than have each write call send a separate message
L113[06:30:39] <Gala​xtone> well the issue is I want to make a bridge
L114[06:30:45] <Gala​xtone> on my computer
L115[06:30:53] <Gala​xtone> and use OC to host like a server through the bridge
L116[06:31:32] <Gala​xtone> so any advice helps
L117[06:31:38] <Ocawesome101> someone did that iirc
L118[06:31:46] <Ocawesome101> or something you could build that on top of
L119[06:31:50] <Ocawesome101> 20kdc i think
L120[06:31:53] <Izaya> a bridge?
L121[06:32:00] <Izaya> what are you bridging?
L122[06:32:24] <Izaya> are we bridging networks or a single application or
L123[06:34:20] <Gala​xtone> Bridge hosts a server
L124[06:34:42] <Gala​xtone> Multiplexes the incoming sockets into one stream sent to the "master client"
L125[06:34:53] <Izaya> aaah I getcha
L126[06:34:57] <Gala​xtone> so like `message from socket 46: move to 7`
L127[06:35:12] <Gala​xtone> and response: `message to socket 1, 2, 3: player n moved to 7`
L128[06:37:06] <Izaya> I have a library that serializes minitel packets for something similar, if that helps
L129[06:37:35] <Gala​xtone> nah it's just I worry about having to do stuff like
L130[06:37:49] <Gala​xtone> buffer movement packets
L131[06:38:02] <Gala​xtone> causing people to look very laggy
L132[06:38:06] <Gala​xtone> it's ofc an experiment
L133[06:38:09] <Gala​xtone> like my TIS-100-3D
L134[06:38:15] <Gala​xtone> (which worked pretty well)
L135[06:38:38] <Izaya> My suggestion would be to have a buffer library buffer for writing to
L136[06:38:48] <Izaya> flush the buffer regularly
L137[06:39:28] <Izaya> Like, every 0.25 seconds
L138[06:39:38] <Izaya> You can passively process events in memory a lot faster than you can do component calls
L139[06:41:21] <Ocawesome101> meaning that sometimes the solution with higher memory consumption = more speed
L140[06:41:37] * Izaya nods
L141[06:41:55] <Izaya> Maybe I should work on a Minitel -> TCP bridge
L142[06:42:00] <Izaya> I feel like that'd be useful for things
L143[06:42:01] <Izaya> tm
L144[06:43:13] <Izaya> general purpose internet card proxy would be neat
L145[06:43:16] <Izaya> with HTTP(S) and TCP
L146[06:43:49] <Izaya> Internet card doesn't work over MT-RPC because it uses userdata objects heavily x_x
L147[06:48:15] <CompanionCube> Izaya: where HTTPS == generic TLS
L148[06:48:45] <CompanionCube> may as well save yourself pain if you ever want to do non-HTTPS encrypted TCP
L149[06:49:40] <Izaya> CompanionCube: I don't do the TLS myself
L150[06:49:45] <Izaya> I let the internet card handle it
L151[06:50:01] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> 👀
L152[06:50:56] <CompanionCube> Izaya: does internef card do generic TLS?
L153[06:51:04] <Izaya> unfortunately not
L154[06:51:36] <CompanionCube> so then you can't let it handle it
L155[06:56:37] <Izaya> well no
L156[06:56:42] <Izaya> but I can say "BYO TLS"
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L159[07:13:56] <Michiyo> %tell ben_mkiv Any thoughts on this Curse comment? https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/opensecurity#c68
L160[07:13:57] <MichiBot> Mic​hiyo: ben_mkiv will be notified of this message when next seen.
L161[07:36:35] <Ocawesome101> well gn all
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L163[07:36:46] <Izaya> o/
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L165[07:45:57] <SquidDev> %tonkout
L166[07:45:58] <MichiBot> Waesucks! Squi​dDev! You beat Li​zzy's previous record of 5 hours, 29 minutes and 28 seconds (By 21 minutes and 6 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L167[07:45:59] <MichiBot> Squi​dDev has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.005 tonk points! plus 0.004 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 1.13146. Position #2 => #1 (Overtook CompanionCube)
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L173[09:22:41] <Sagh​etti> ~markov Saghetti
L174[09:22:41] <ocdoc> ​%fling chunks code is very broken somehow
L175[09:22:45] <Sagh​etti> ~markov Saghetti
L176[09:22:45] <ocdoc> ignore typos or half-sent messages, im *that* bored update 5: maybe ill check
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L179[09:31:32] <Mr.Gre​en Cake> Hello. I tried making gamble game based on something like jackpot. You choose range of numbers you want to guess. If you'll guess it all, you'll get reward (for now, it will only prints out "you win")
L180[09:31:32] <Mr.Gre​en Cake> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/xuyukucusa
L181[09:31:32] <Mr.Gre​en Cake> what it will do is: i entered range, prints out that i must enter first number and then it will go to second section " if boo[i] == "no" then"
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L183[09:43:36] <Sagh​etti> pro tip: use booleans
L184[09:43:41] <Sagh​etti> boo[i] = true
L185[09:43:46] <Sagh​etti> and then if boo[i] then
L186[09:44:11] <Sagh​etti> use true and false
L187[09:47:27] <Inari 「オ​兄デレ」「狐っ娘」> I don't really understand the point of the first for loop
L188[09:47:37] <Inari 「オ​兄デレ」「狐っ娘」> So if you want to guess a range from 1 to 6, you guess 6 times?
L189[09:52:15] <Ar​iri> %tonk
L190[09:52:15] <MichiBot> Heckgosh! Ar​iri! You beat Squi​dDev's previous record of <0 (By 2 hours, 6 minutes and 17 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L191[09:52:16] <MichiBot> Ariri's new record is 2 hours, 6 minutes and 17 seconds! Ariri also gained 0.0021 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #11. Need 0.00034 more points to pass The_St​argazer!
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L194[10:23:35] <Kristo​pher38> @Galaxtone#2143 for future reference: there's this thing called call budget, which you spend by doing component calls, and each machine has its own call budget, which depends on the tier of the CPU. Each tier, 1 2 and 3 have respectively 0.5, 1 and 1.5 call budgets. If you exhaust it, your component calls get delayed to the next tick (execution of your program is halted essentially). As to how much each specific component call takes
L195[10:23:36] <Kristo​pher38> call budget is not documented anywhere, you'd have to look in the mod's source code, but what people said above about one big packet being more efficient is true
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L197[10:27:13] <Forec​aster> @Mr.Green Cake you are calling main before you've defined it
L198[10:33:17] <Mr.Gre​en Cake> that's not the issue.
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L202[10:55:10] <MichiBot> @Forecaster REMINDER: look at that evade check that failed to parse
L203[10:55:14] <Mr.Gre​en Cake> > @Mr.Green Cake you are calling main before you've defined it
L204[10:55:14] <Mr.Gre​en Cake> @Forecaster i was wrong. That was the issue. thanx
L205[10:55:45] <Forec​aster> imagine that :P
L206[11:44:28] <Forec​aster> how's the Eliting going Michiyo? :P
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L208[12:39:08] <Sagh​etti> this is great, we made our own markov bot http://tinyurl.com/yazfrhnz
L209[12:39:09] <Sagh​etti> it's beautiful
L210[14:17:03] <Amanda> I remember when I hadto do brain surgery on my markov bot after someone taught her all the lines of his school play, and it kept making nonsense
L211[14:20:30] <Inari> ~markov Amanda
L212[14:20:31] <ocdoc> ​%choose space factory or space fishies or space fishies or othe
L213[14:21:27] <Amanda> ~markov Inari
L214[14:21:28] <ocdoc> hwo did most of them are kinda in terrible quality with original version I was on.
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L216[14:21:58] <Amanda> that almost makes sense
L217[14:27:01] <Inari> ~markov Corded
L218[14:27:03] <ocdoc> o​ne guy> >breeze dark I can probably fit more than basic testing, how it works with keycode too?
L219[14:36:03] <ben_mkiv> .
L220[14:36:33] <ben_mkiv> %tell michiyo no idea honestly, i think he screwed his world by adding/removing mods and so block id's shifted
L221[14:36:33] <MichiBot> ben_​mkiv: michiyo will be notified of this message when next seen.
L222[14:38:10] <ben_mkiv> %tell michiyo the block actually is set to something from furenikusroads, while the tile is a OS energy turret. rockhounding seems to be not really involved into this
L223[14:38:10] <MichiBot> ben_​mkiv: michiyo will be notified of this message when next seen.
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L226[15:23:52] <Forec​aster> %sip
L227[15:23:53] <MichiBot> You drink a slimy orange potion (New!). Forecaster feels the need to smash.
L228[15:25:12] <Forec​aster> %bap a nearby thing
L229[15:25:12] <MichiBot> Forecaster baps a nearby thing with Inari's left-altkey!
L230[15:26:56] <Amanda> how the heck did I earn an Arx since last night
L231[15:27:18] <Forec​aster> you get it for doing stuff
L232[15:27:22] <Amanda> I see
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L234[16:46:54] <Parad​oxical> How can I make a robot strip mine, and is there any programs for it?
L235[16:49:50] <Inari> By writing a program for it
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L237[16:56:46] <Lizzy> %tonk
L238[16:56:47] <MichiBot> Consarn it! Li​zzy! You beat Ar​iri's previous record of 2 hours, 6 minutes and 17 seconds (By 4 hours, 58 minutes and 13 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L239[16:56:48] <MichiBot> Lizzy's new record is 7 hours, 4 minutes and 31 seconds! Lizzy also gained 0.01491 (0.00497 x 3) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #4. Need 0.11236 more points to pass Forec​aster!
L240[17:01:23] <Amanda> @Forecaster This birght colour means it's got a lot of something, I'm guessing? https://nc.ddna.co/s/a3jRYqKbYLazznG ISTR something about the colour scale, but dn't recall the specifics. all the surface deposits are water, but a P. Limpet says it's got diamonds
L241[17:01:45] <Michiyo> @Forecaster Seems I left the launcher up when I quit in frustration last night
L242[17:01:57] * Lizzy headpats Michiyo
L243[17:02:07] <Michiyo> errrr @"Forecaster" I think tell is a bit... broken
L244[17:02:23] * Michiyo goes to stab tell.java
L245[17:02:23] <Inari> Amanda: I believe bright colour just indicates that it has the new feature of mining(surface deposits and those other ones)
L246[17:02:54] <Izaya> Gotta blow up the rock with the charges to get the diamonds.
L247[17:04:05] <Amanda> Yeah, I thought he saidsomething about bright spots having deep core deposits or similar, which I can't mind I don't think
L248[17:04:40] <Amanda> fwiw this is the results of the limpet: https://nc.ddna.co/s/rqGQ3JJW7cgMgyg
L249[17:04:51] <Izaya> deep core mining is good fun
L250[17:04:54] <Izaya> whatcha flying
L251[17:04:58] <Izaya> an adder?
L252[17:05:00] <Amanda> An Adder.
L253[17:06:31] <Izaya> I've reached new not-playing-ARK heights
L254[17:06:43] <Izaya> Currently running ARK and Stellaris while watching Deep Space 9 and shittalking on Mumble
L255[17:06:59] <Michiyo> so.. the question is... is it broken on store, or on fetch <_<
L256[17:07:11] <Michiyo> %tell Michi Testing a multiword tell to see where this is broken
L257[17:07:11] <MichiBot> Mic​hiyo: Michi will be notified of this message when next seen.
L258[17:09:06] <Michiyo> oh wow.. there are a lot of tells sitting here unseen
L259[17:09:21] <Michiyo> Michiyo michi #oc [Michi, Testing, a, multiword, tell, to, see, where, this, is, broken] 111 on Jul 03 @ 16:07 UTC
L260[17:09:25] <Michiyo> so yeah storing tells is the issue
L261[17:10:56] <Michiyo> man, I guess I need to strip symbols from the ends of nicks... most of these have a comma at the end of the target nick
L262[17:15:00] <Ocawes​ome101> Today’s idea: the reason OpenComputers GUIs tend to perform horribly because they redraw windows on every drag event, making window dragging feel really slow. Thus, if one limits the draw speed—and only the draw speed, not the actual window motion code—of a GUI to, say, 10 FPS, one would get a much smoother experience.
L263[17:15:04] <Ocawes​ome101> Thoughts?
L264[17:17:25] <Izaya> Worth some experimenting.
L265[17:17:44] <Inari> It would still feel visually laggy
L266[17:17:49] <Ocawes​ome101> I’d try it if I was able to actually write a GUI that worked
L267[17:17:55] <Inari> Do what old windows did
L268[17:18:00] <Izaya> Draw the outline
L269[17:18:01] <Inari> Just draw a rectangle showing the new position
L270[17:18:05] <Ocawes​ome101> Windows would at least keep up better with the mouse cursor
L271[17:18:06] <Inari> And move it once you let go
L272[17:18:22] <Izaya> You could draw an outline in 2 or 4 draw calls
L273[17:18:33] * Inari outlines Izaya
L274[17:19:15] <Ocawes​ome101> True
L275[17:19:27] <Ocawes​ome101> It’d be cheap to bitblt too
L276[17:19:37] <Michiyo> mmmm BLT.
L277[17:19:51] <Amanda> It depends on the complexity of the window, and the complexity of the other windows
L278[17:20:11] <Amanda> just an outline would probably be fastest in most cases
L279[17:20:53] <Izaya> Assuming rectangular windows, you could do two calls: one line for the top, one line for the bottom
L280[17:21:01] <Izaya> Or the sides, I guess.
L281[17:23:36] <Michiyo> shit
L282[17:23:43] <Inari> Oh, we have buffers already?
L283[17:23:45] <Michiyo> the link to my jnlua52.dll is broken
L284[17:24:10] <Kristo​pher38> we do on the build server
L285[17:24:27] <Inari> Is htat in 1.12.2?
L286[17:24:55] <Kristo​pher38> yeah
L287[17:24:59] <Inari> Neat
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L290[17:25:53] <Michiyo> @part #oc
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L293[17:28:54] <Michi> -MichiBot1- Michiyo in #MichiBot said: Michi Hello from String.join in java 8 on Jul 03 @ 16:28 UTC
L294[17:28:56] <Michi> yep.. fixed it.
L295[17:29:07] <Michi> I do remember how to write code for my own bot \o/
L296[17:29:34] <Amanda> \o
L297[17:29:38] <Amanda> \o/
L298[17:34:55] <Michi> %restart
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L302[17:36:43] <Michi> There, the first commit by me in a while :P
L303[17:36:48] <Michi> and it's a 2 line change lmao
L304[17:42:18] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> huh
L305[17:42:39] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> i think the vac lines need replacing
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L307[18:23:28] <Amanda> %choose space or early rain box
L308[18:23:29] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: The proof is in the pudding. Definitely "space". Now please get it out of my pudding.
L309[18:23:55] <Amanda> Hrm. nah, it can stay in the pudding for a bit longer
L310[18:26:49] <Ocawes​ome101> Izaya: or one could just use a single fill call and make a white/gray/$COLOR box instead of the window
L311[18:27:26] <Amanda> That means you'll have more to redraw of overlapping windows though
L312[18:28:27] <Izaya> ^
L313[18:28:53] <Ocawes​ome101> true
L314[18:29:00] <Ocawes​ome101> hardware buffers ftw
L315[18:31:27] <Kristo​pher38> alright MineOS gui lib is a mess and I don't like it
L316[18:31:42] <Ocawes​ome101> lol
L317[18:34:43] <Izaya> I figured out how I'm going to do GUIs/windowing on PsychOS
L318[18:34:54] <Izaya> windowed terminal emulators
L319[18:35:04] <Izaya> do everything you need with VT100 escape codes and buffers
L320[18:38:31] <Ocawes​ome101> i was considering something like that for monolith actually
L321[18:38:51] <Ocawes​ome101> just make a gpu proxy equivalent and redirect vt100 to that
L322[18:38:58] <Ocawes​ome101> i'm basically using the same vtemu as you are :P
L323[18:38:59] <Izaya> yeah exactly
L324[18:39:02] <Izaya> :D
L325[18:39:03] <Kristo​pher38> Izaya's obsession with VT100 terminals and doing everything with escape codes continues
L326[18:39:12] <Izaya> abstraction is nice
L327[18:39:25] <Kristo​pher38> yeah, I get it, but you sacrifice some performance
L328[18:39:33] <Kristo​pher38> the question is how much
L329[18:39:39] <Kristo​pher38> you would have to tell me
L330[18:39:47] <Izaya> less than allowing direct draw calls tbh
L331[18:39:54] <Izaya> this lets me batch writes
L332[18:40:09] <Izaya> if I wanted I could go full retard and draw to an in-memory buffer then blit the changes
L333[18:42:01] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSVrKK_uHoU neat
L334[18:42:03] <MichiBot> Amazing AR Effects Are Coming! | length: 4m 59s | Likes: 7,480 Dislikes: 35 Views: 89,578 | by Two Minute Papers | Published On 1/7/2020
L335[18:42:38] <Kristo​pher38> @Ocawesome101 for example you've got two similar widgets, one is called "text" and one "label", the difference being label can take alignment options
L336[18:42:50] <Ocawes​ome101> mhm
L337[18:42:51] <Kristo​pher38> this is already bad since you could have just one
L338[18:43:07] <Ocawes​ome101> just make label with the alignment options optional
L339[18:43:11] <Kristo​pher38> yeah
L340[18:43:15] <Kristo​pher38> but there's more
L341[18:43:23] <Ocawes​ome101> oh no
L342[18:43:43] * Lizzy stabs zoneminder
L343[18:44:12] <Kristo​pher38> sometime during the development they added multiple widgets with the ability to specify the color
L344[18:44:25] <Kristo​pher38> but they didn't standardize how that should be stored in the object
L345[18:44:32] <Ocawes​ome101> hm
L346[18:45:07] <Ocawes​ome101> is there a good Lua minifier that's written in Lua, or not JS?
L347[18:46:17] <Kristo​pher38> so to get/set text's color, you would do `textObject.color`, but with label it's `labelObject.colors.text`, and with yet another "panel" widget it's `panelObject.colors.background`
L348[18:46:34] <Ocawes​ome101> i want to minify the Monolith kernel for memory efficiency's sake
L349[18:46:56] <Izaya> I can give you a janky one written in Lua
L350[18:47:08] <Ocawes​ome101> ...ok
L351[18:47:23] <Izaya> there's like two minifiers in the Minitel/Embedded dir
L352[18:47:31] <Ocawes​ome101> oh cool
L353[18:47:34] <Ocawes​ome101> i'll check them out
L354[18:47:37] <Ocawes​ome101> which one is better
L355[18:48:06] <Izaya> the one with more patterns listed
L356[18:48:11] <Ocawes​ome101> ok
L357[18:48:11] <Izaya> some of them may break some stuff
L358[18:48:23] <Izaya> they're all just gsub patterns
L359[18:48:48] <Ocawes​ome101> ok
L360[18:49:20] <Amanda> I remain proud of the way I made gnumake able to extract dependency info for my packager
L361[18:49:56] <Amanda> %choose brigtly coloured space or realistic space
L362[18:49:56] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Once you get a taste of "realistic space" you can't stop.
L363[18:51:01] <Ocawes​ome101> dang
L364[18:51:03] <Amanda> Specifically, this: https://gitlab.darkdna.net/amanda/oc-fileserver/-/blob/master/pkg-deps.lua
L365[18:51:12] <Ocawes​ome101> apparently i have like 8k of whitespace
L366[18:51:19] <Ocawes​ome101> thanks!
L367[18:51:29] <Amanda> combined with this: https://gitlab.darkdna.net/amanda/oc-fileserver/-/blob/master/Makefile#L36-44
L368[18:51:56] <Izaya> I never wrote a variable name parser
L369[18:52:23] <Amanda> Also worth noting: It won't save much on memory, unless you're keeping the unparsed source in memory for some reason
L370[18:52:46] <Amanda> Or did you mean disk space
L371[18:54:25] <Ocawes​ome101> ..yea, it breaks
L372[18:54:39] <Izaya> some of the patterns break when you have block patterns
L373[18:55:14] <Ocawes​ome101> i'm just looking for ways to slim down the system enough to boot on full t1 (192k)
L374[18:56:05] <Izaya> block comments rather
L375[18:56:20] <Ocawes​ome101> oh yeah
L376[18:56:27] <Ocawes​ome101> i think i do have those somewhere most likely
L377[18:58:16] <Forec​aster> Bright means likely to have a core if it's the right shape
L378[18:58:24] <Forec​aster> it doesn't indicate amount
L379[18:58:28] <Forec​aster> Amanda: ^
L380[18:59:19] <Amanda> I see
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L384[19:47:04] <Ar​iri> Also if it has black lines which turn into bright yellow when closer
L385[19:47:04] <Ar​iri> Popcorn shape and seeing fissures before using a prospector are good checks
L386[19:47:11] <Ar​iri> Amanda^
L387[19:51:13] <Amanda> I managed to grab 2t of diamonds, sold them to @Forecaster's carrier for 700k
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L389[19:55:50] <Corded> * <Ocawes​ome101> sighs
L390[19:55:59] <Ocawes​ome101> i can get monolith to boot to a login prompt on a single t1
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L392[19:56:02] <Ocawes​ome101> but can't load a shell
L393[19:56:10] <Ocawes​ome101> o/
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L395[19:58:37] <monolith> AAAAAAAAAAAAA
L396[19:58:40] <monolith> I AM HERE
L397[19:58:43] <monolith> FROM MONOLITH
L398[19:58:44] <monolith> I DID IT
L399[19:58:47] <monolith> OPENIRC RUNS
L400[19:59:19] <Ocawes​ome101> this is ridiculous
L401[19:59:26] <Ocawes​ome101> that was actually pretty easy tbh
L402[20:00:03] <Ocawes​ome101> just had to make event work really (it was no effort, no idea why it wasn't working before)
L403[20:00:10] <Ocawes​ome101> also
L404[20:00:18] <Ocawes​ome101> zero-whitespaces are not stripped from names
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L407[20:20:10] <monolith> have returned
L408[20:20:19] <monolith> i think this client is a little faster perhaps on openos
L409[20:20:59] <monolith> but i'm emulating what of the term api it needs using vt100 codes so idk
L410[20:21:03] *** monolith is now known as Ocawesome101
L411[20:21:49] <Ocawesome101> i am now verified :p
L412[20:22:50] <Ocawesome101> %lua oink()
L413[20:22:50] <MichiBot> main:1: attempt to call global 'oink' (a nil value)
L414[20:22:53] <Ocawesome101> dang it
L415[20:23:01] <Ocawesome101> %tonk
L416[20:23:03] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Ocawesome101, you were not able to beat Lizzy's record of 7 hours, 4 minutes and 31 seconds this time. 3 hours, 26 minutes and 15 seconds were wasted! Missed by 3 hours, 38 minutes and 15 seconds!
L417[20:23:12] <Ocawes​ome101> oof
L418[20:24:26] <Ocawesome101> zws's aaaaaaaaaa
L419[20:25:56] <Ocawesome101> %ping
L420[20:25:57] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Ocawes​ome101 0.34s
L421[20:26:01] <Ocawesome101> not bad
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L424[20:27:01] <monolith> i back
L425[20:27:21] <monolith> playing around with looks
L426[20:28:27] <Amanda> %choose pizza?
L427[20:28:27] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Are you sure? Well alright.
L428[20:28:31] <Amanda> I'm sure.
L429[20:28:51] <monolith> :p
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L432[20:33:24] <monolith> there we... maybe... go?
L433[20:33:26] <monolith> dangit
L434[20:33:32] <monolith> trying to make names colored
L435[20:36:48] <Inari> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/249763352425922560/728649214908825711/SZzA2Dufv-BEq1PfvOhPfVpgFINjb1KujJagyQTmvpY.png
L436[20:37:01] * monolith sighs
L437[20:37:53] <monolith> i just realized
L438[20:38:09] <monolith> openirc uses a custom print function
L439[20:38:22] <ThePi​Guy24> yes
L440[20:38:50] <monolith> meaning i get no ANSI coloring :(
L441[20:39:22] <ThePi​Guy24> shouldnt be too difficult to modify it to support iy
L442[20:39:24] <ThePi​Guy24> *it
L443[20:40:41] <monolith> eh
L444[20:40:55] <monolith> it uses the gpu component directly so :/
L445[20:41:01] <monolith> anyway brb
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L448[20:41:17] <monolith> back
L449[20:43:24] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L450[20:43:24] <MichiBot> I'm sorry CompanionCube, you were not able to beat Lizzy's record of 7 hours, 4 minutes and 31 seconds this time. 20 minutes and 21 seconds were wasted! Missed by 6 hours, 44 minutes and 9 seconds!
L451[20:43:32] <CompanionCube> oops, blind tonk
L452[20:43:43] <Ocawes​ome101> i tonked earlier
L453[20:43:49] <monolith> and uyh
L454[20:43:52] <monolith> uh*
L455[20:43:53] <monolith> ailed
L456[20:43:56] <monolith> failed*
L457[20:43:57] <dr f [R​EDACTED]> is there any way to target all components of 1 time
L458[20:44:08] <monolith> type you mean()
L459[20:44:10] <monolith> ?*
L460[20:44:12] <monolith> yes
L461[20:44:13] <dr f [R​EDACTED]> yes
L462[20:44:14] <monolith> sec
L463[20:44:20] *** monolith is now known as Ocawesome101
L464[20:44:29] <Ocawesome101> msg nickserv identify letmeinyouidiot
L465[20:44:39] <Ocawesome101> oops
L466[20:45:05] <Ocawesome101> there
L467[20:45:08] <Ocawesome101> am verified
L468[20:45:25] <Ocawesome101> so
L469[20:45:38] <Ocawesome101> @"dr f [REDACTED]" yes you can
L470[20:45:44] <dr f [R​EDACTED]> how
L471[20:45:51] <Amanda> for loop
L472[20:46:04] <B​ob> lookup the component lib
L473[20:46:08] <Ocawesome101> `for componentAddress, componentType in component.list("yourType") do ... end`
L474[20:46:17] <B​ob> Uqe list and proxy
L475[20:46:24] <Ocawesome101> ^
L476[20:46:32] <Ocawesome101> @Bob when do we get you on irc
L477[20:46:43] <Ocawesome101> :D
L478[20:47:00] <B​ob> When illl switch to popos
L479[20:47:10] <Ocawesome101> what are you on now
L480[20:47:24] <B​ob> Poopdpws 10
L481[20:47:31] <Ocawesome101> :P
L482[20:47:36] <Ocawesome101> you can get IRC clients for that
L483[20:47:41] <Ocawesome101> i'm sure of it
L484[20:47:48] <Amanda> popos? As in Pop!_OS?
L485[20:47:55] <Ocawesome101> yes
L486[20:48:36] <B​ob> Yeah
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L490[20:55:25] <dr f [R​EDACTED]> it still only targets one component
L491[20:55:54] <dr f [R​EDACTED]> oh wait
L492[20:57:19] <dr f [R​EDACTED]> if i put it in a when true loop and restart my pc it targets a new 1 every time
L493[20:58:23] <dr f [R​EDACTED]> and that stopped working
L494[20:59:04] <Ocawesome101> uhm
L495[20:59:08] <Ocawesome101> show code
L496[20:59:13] <Ocawesome101> pastebin it please
L497[21:02:00] <dr f [R​EDACTED]> local component = require("component")
L498[21:02:01] <dr f [R​EDACTED]> for componentAddress, componentType in component.list("colorfullamp") do component.colorfullamp.setlampcolor(32330) end
L499[21:04:02] <Ocawesome101> no
L500[21:04:04] <Ocawesome101> no
L501[21:04:05] <Ocawesome101> no no no
L502[21:04:20] <Ocawesome101> you need to act on `componentAddress`
L503[21:04:37] <Ocawesome101> so `component.invoke(componentAddress, "setlampcolor", 32330)`
L504[21:05:23] <dr f [R​EDACTED]> and where in the code does that go
L505[21:05:56] <Ocawesome101> inside the for loop
L506[21:06:00] <Amanda> instead of component.colourful_lanp.setlampcolor
L507[21:06:05] <Ocawesome101> ^
L508[21:06:08] <dr f [R​EDACTED]> k thnx
L509[21:06:34] <Ocawesome101> p
L510[21:06:36] <Ocawesome101> np*
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L512[21:07:54] <dr f [R​EDACTED]> it now gives error for invoke
L513[21:08:32] <Ar​iri> try in the lua interpreter
L514[21:08:51] <dr f [R​EDACTED]> no such method is what it says
L515[21:09:08] <Ocawesome101> try setLampColor
L516[21:10:02] <dr f [R​EDACTED]> yup
L517[21:10:07] <dr f [R​EDACTED]> thnx again
L518[21:11:00] <Ocawesome101> np
L519[21:13:55] <dr f [R​EDACTED]> i just thought of something i can(with alot of work and pain) 100% make a display out of this
L520[21:13:55] <MichiBot> ALOT: http://tinyurl.com/y42zurt
L521[21:24:05] <Ar​iri> %sip
L522[21:24:07] <MichiBot> You drink a gloopy rock potion (New!). A otter flies past that vaguely resembles someone Ariri knows.
L523[21:24:31] <Ocawesome101> %skull
L524[21:24:31] <MichiBot> You drink a molten grass potion (New!). A tiny cloud appears with a ridiculous smile on it. It follows Ocawesome101 until they eat a pie.
L525[21:24:40] <Ocawesome101> hmm, i think i will go have pie now
L526[21:24:43] <Ar​iri> Im not concerned about the otter flying past, no siree
L527[21:24:55] <Ar​iri> The pie is a lie.
L528[21:48:34] <Michi> Here I am, on a company holiday... working because my COWORKERS FUCKING SUCK
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L530[22:14:49] <Kristo​pher38> where were logs from rc.d scripts saved again?
L531[22:14:52] <Kristo​pher38> I forgot
L532[22:19:39] <Amanda> I don't think they're stored anywhere? General event errors will go to /tmp/event.log though
L533[22:30:57] <Forec​aster> Amanda a good start but you can get much more than that :P
L534[22:32:13] <Amanda> indeed. Atm I'm doing DSS of the planets in the system, then I guess I'll give mining another go
L535[22:32:42] <Amanda> Have to figure out what to take out to make room for a collecotr limpet controller, if you sell one on your carrier :P
L536[22:39:25] <Forec​aster> It should have all mining equipment
L537[22:40:04] <Amanda> ... why the fuck can't I scan this planet. I got so close I got kicked out of supercruise and it still wasn't letting me scan it
L538[22:42:45] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> so
L539[22:42:48] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> couldn't take the test
L540[22:42:53] <Ocawesome101> what test
L541[22:42:56] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> but my car would have failed the pre-test check anyways
L542[22:43:01] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> road test
L543[22:43:05] <Ocawesome101> ic
L544[22:43:58] <Kristo​pher38> the thing is you have to be in supercruise iirc
L545[22:44:05] <Kristo​pher38> but it's weird that it didn't let you scan it
L546[22:46:37] <Forec​aster> Amanda surface scan?
L547[22:47:15] <Forec​aster> if so it's probably a gas giant
L548[22:47:21] <Forec​aster> you can't surface scan gas giants
L549[22:47:26] <Amanda> ... I surface scanned another one
L550[22:48:41] <Amanda> at least, I thought it was one. I remember thining "That's weird it's letting me Surface scan a gas giant"
L551[22:48:49] <Forec​aster> oh, apparently you can
L552[22:48:52] <Forec​aster> huh
L553[22:51:28] <Amanda> just checked and yup.I scanned the first planet in the system, a gas giant
L554[22:52:08] <Amanda> I think I took my Supercruise assist out, which I vaguely recall let you enter into proper orbits for SC, which would be helpful for this
L555[22:53:11] <Forec​aster> SCA can "orbit" a planet yeah
L556[22:53:52] <Forec​aster> I tend to just fire probes at one side from the max range, then fly around to the other side
L557[22:54:09] <Ar​iri> \o/
L558[22:54:11] <Ar​iri> I've returned your rebuy cost and all lost exploration data. :)
L559[22:54:15] <Ar​iri> “”
L560[22:54:25] <Forec​aster> nice
L561[22:54:27] <Amanda> @Ariri nice. :3
L562[22:54:48] <Ar​iri> Thank the stars (and support)
L563[22:55:01] <Ar​iri> woulda been a big loss
L564[22:55:25] <Amanda> @Forecaster I'm wonderinf if that planet's bugged or something, because like I said, I got kicked out of SC due to getting too close, and even whenI had the DSS up during the SC, it was saying Too Far
L565[22:55:51] <Forec​aster> I guess some gas giants might not be dense enough to scan maybe?
L566[22:56:06] <Ar​iri> I’ve never seen that.. weird
L567[23:23:33] <Amanda> I thinnk I just got the game angry at me, I'm pretty sure I've scanned it now, at least, I've scanned several planets now, I don't recall the exact one I was trying to scan earlier.
L568[23:29:06] <Amanda> ugh, steam decided I don't get to do IHS anymore, now
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L573[23:43:01] <Amanda> @Forecaster I don't see collector limpet controllers on your carrier, or is that nota one-dot system?
L574[23:44:34] <Forec​aster> oh, apparently that's not included in the mining equipment packs
L575[23:44:39] <Amanda> ah
L576[23:44:55] <Forec​aster> you'll have to go to New Growth then
L577[23:45:47] <Forec​aster> in system `Pencil Sector EL-Y D5`
L578[23:48:28] <Amanda> Nice, that's only 5 jumps in my noobship. :P
L579[23:50:20] <Forec​aster> like I mentioned, literally the only station within like 1000 Ly
L580[23:50:20] <Forec​aster> :P
L581[23:51:26] <Forec​aster> it is an asteroid station though, so pretty neat to visit
L582[23:51:52] <Amanda> nice, I shall head there one I get myself a drink
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