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L6[01:03:21] <Ar​iri> Amanda: I did a thing :D https://lcars5201.ddns.net/index.php/s/RDxfDApknF8GytB/preview
L7[01:06:00] <Ar​iri> %choose work on facts and owo text now or later?
L8[01:06:01] <MichiBot> Ar​iri: "work on facts and owo text now" is for cool kids!
L9[01:06:13] <Ar​iri> %8ball snack first?
L10[01:06:13] <MichiBot> Ar​iri: Ask again later
L11[01:06:24] <Ar​iri> Ill ask after I have the snack
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L14[01:43:48] <Galaxy> i have been gnomed
L15[01:55:47] <Amanda> Ariri: nice
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L17[01:57:45] <Bri​anH> Ok kids
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L19[01:57:58] <Bri​anH> A long time ago movies were actually good
L20[01:58:12] <Bri​anH> there was a time when they would fix them before you watched them even
L21[01:59:22] <Bri​anH> They usually told you thst your movie was going to be ok to watch by prepending the movie with the following message:
L22[01:59:25] <Bri​anH> http://tinyurl.com/ybn6bkqv
L23[02:04:08] <Amanda> %remindme 10h wash the bedding and elephant, they getting stanky
L24[02:04:08] <MichiBot> I'll remind you about "wash the bedding and elephant, they getting stanky" at 07/01/2020 04:04:08 AM
L25[02:04:26] * Amanda curls up into a ball, zzews around Elfi
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L27[02:16:10] <Izaya> morning nerds
L28[02:18:55] <Ar​iri> morn
L29[02:21:07] <Izaya> how goes
L30[02:24:11] <Ar​iri> Respawned in ED, jumping to the bubble now
L31[02:24:51] <Izaya> been thinking about booting up E:D again
L32[02:24:58] <Izaya> but fleet carriers don't really interest me tbh
L33[02:25:05] <Izaya> kinda inclined to hold off till the next big update
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L35[02:47:10] <Ar​iri> Im playing with some friends and I havent gotten any elites yet so w/e
L36[02:52:55] <Izaya> It'd be different if interaction with other people in an MMO wasn't gated behind software I'm not willing to compromise my beliefs to use, but as it is the only community I'm able to interact with is the fuel rats
L37[02:55:58] <Ar​iri> fiar
L38[02:55:59] <Ar​iri> fair
L39[02:58:06] <Izaya> Alrighty, baby dinos are maturing again :3
L40[02:58:07] <Lizzy> %tonk
L41[02:58:08] <MichiBot> Goshhawk! Li​zzy! You beat Ar​iri's previous record of 5 hours, 38 minutes and 47 seconds (By 3 hours, 6 minutes and 19 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L42[02:58:09] <MichiBot> Lizzy's new record is 8 hours, 45 minutes and 6 seconds! Lizzy also gained 0.01866 (0.00311 x 6) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #4. Need 0.11843 more points to pass Forec​aster!
L43[02:58:14] <Lizzy> and now, to bed
L44[02:58:32] <Ar​iri> darng it
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L46[03:29:38] <ThePiGuy24> has discord died or is it just my internet?
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L56[05:05:23] <Ocawesome101> evening fellow humans
L57[05:05:25] <Ocawesome101> and cats
L58[05:06:01] <Ocawesome101> i am now verified with NickServ
L59[05:10:36] <CompanionCube> %loot
L60[05:10:37] <MichiBot> Compan​ionCube: You get a loot box! It contains a portable stick. (Junk)
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L62[05:22:34] <Klea​dron> hello organism
L63[05:23:17] <Sagh​etti> ok
L64[05:23:51] <Ocawesome101> yooooo saghetti
L65[05:24:03] <Ocawesome101> haven't seen you in a few days i think
L66[05:24:18] <Sagh​etti> hi
L67[05:24:27] <Izaya> organics pls go
L68[05:24:30] <Sagh​etti> i've started programming in c++
L69[05:24:32] <Sagh​etti> please help
L70[05:24:42] * Ocawesome101 hands Saghetti vanilla C
L71[05:24:45] <Ocawesome101> i'm rewriting monolith's scheduler
L72[05:24:56] <Ocawesome101> to distinguish between processes and threads
L73[05:25:32] <Sagh​etti> thing is
L74[05:25:40] <Sagh​etti> 90% of people dont use vanilla c
L75[05:25:48] <Klea​dron> too bad
L76[05:25:51] <Sagh​etti> like you're supposed to use the new keyword
L77[05:25:55] <Sagh​etti> and not malloc
L78[05:25:55] <Ocawesome101> ISO/ANSI/w/e
L79[05:26:01] <Sagh​etti> unless you're forced to use vanilla c
L80[05:26:10] * Izaya laughs in GNU extensions
L81[05:26:22] <Sagh​etti> #pragma once
L82[05:26:30] <Sagh​etti> still isnt a standard thing :sadcat:
L83[05:27:20] <Sagh​etti> http://tinyurl.com/yawlkw49
L84[05:27:27] <Sagh​etti> code::blocks keeps sliding to the left on my task bar
L85[05:27:41] <Sagh​etti> and then it teleports back to the right
L86[05:27:59] <Izaya> neat
L87[05:28:07] <Izaya> if I set these ships to use the NSC hit and run AI
L88[05:28:17] <Izaya> cloud lightning doesn't even get a chance to hit them
L89[05:28:28] <Izaya> great success
L90[05:28:28] <Sagh​etti> nvm it stopped sliding
L91[05:28:38] <Sagh​etti> anyways code::blocks actually looks hideous
L92[05:28:41] <Sagh​etti> its the worst thing
L93[05:28:56] <Ocawesome101> use https://github.com/rxi/lite :D
L94[05:29:07] <Sagh​etti> can't compile c++
L95[05:29:09] <Sagh​etti> 0/10
L96[05:29:18] <Izaya> that looks kinda neat
L97[05:29:18] <ThePi​Guy24> written in lua eh
L98[05:29:25] <Ocawesome101> partially c
L99[05:29:29] <Izaya> convince me not to port ced to Linux
L100[05:29:32] <Ocawesome101> extensible through lua
L101[05:29:36] <Sagh​etti> like just look at this http://tinyurl.com/yaj4zjag
L102[05:29:38] <Sagh​etti> fucking disgusting
L103[05:29:40] <Ocawesome101> Izaya: i might actually use that tbh
L104[05:29:44] <Izaya> same
L105[05:30:16] <Sagh​etti> >use editor written in lua to edit lua source code written in c
L106[05:30:25] <Izaya> I've been thinking about writing a text editor for quite a while, I see no reason not to make it work on PsychOS and Linux
L107[05:30:36] <Izaya> speaking of PsychOS, we library aliases now
L108[05:30:38] <Izaya> pls provide thoughts
L109[05:30:41] <Ocawesome101> nice
L110[05:30:52] <Ocawesome101> i attempted to write a text editor
L111[05:30:54] <Ocawesome101> it uh
L112[05:30:56] <Ocawesome101> did not go well
L113[05:31:08] <Ocawesome101> (for actual Linux terminals)
L114[05:31:19] <Izaya> the issue with using Lua for it on normal Linux
L115[05:31:23] <Izaya> is that you can't read a single character
L116[05:31:28] <Izaya> you read until a newline is reached
L117[05:31:47] <Izaya> you need to use external libraries to do that
L118[05:31:54] * Ocawesome101 laughs in `os.execute("stty sane")`
L119[05:32:02] <Izaya> https://git.shadowkat.net/izaya/OC-PsychOS2/commit/5db20adefdfbbe50e14f9534ec46af0f9f00741e
L120[05:32:09] <Ocawesome101> %s/sane/raw -echo/
L121[05:32:09] <MichiBot> * Ocawesome101 laughs in `os.execute("stty raw -echo")`
L122[05:32:43] <Izaya> ... huh.
L123[05:32:45] <Izaya> I hate it.
L124[05:32:59] <Ocawesome101> you can actually do full text input on vanilla Lua, with some interesting hacks
L125[05:33:27] <Ocawesome101> i.e. that stty thing
L126[05:33:40] * Ocawesome101 considers implementing stty on Monolith for compatibility
L127[05:34:03] * Ocawesome101 decides against it because he doesn't want to rework the readline system again
L128[05:34:07] <Izaya> how cursed an idea is package-registered library aliases
L129[05:34:07] <Sagh​etti> im gonna do it
L130[05:34:15] <Sagh​etti> im gonna use system() and there's nothing you can do about it
L131[05:35:15] <Izaya> I did aliases so I could alias download.https to download.http
L132[05:35:40] <Izaya> but I don't want to register that in the download library
L133[05:35:44] <Izaya> I'd prefer like, a system-wide list
L134[05:37:11] <Ocawesome101> thats fair
L135[05:40:00] <Izaya> Unsure on implementation though.
L136[05:40:09] <Izaya> Maybe it could load them on boot from a file, but ???
L137[05:40:44] <Ocawesome101> just have it as a startup script or something
L138[05:41:51] <Izaya> Having a service for it is a lot of overhead x_x
L139[06:04:43] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> ugh
L140[06:04:57] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> depressurizing a room on a planet in SE takes forever
L141[06:05:23] <Izaya> Why depressurize it?
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L143[06:06:56] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> Izaya: because haha you've fallen into my trap
L144[06:08:06] <Izaya> Oh, it's the alligator room.
L145[06:08:08] <Izaya> Neat.
L146[06:09:09] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> yep
L147[06:10:53] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> huh
L148[06:11:04] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> i might be able to make a super thin airlock, too
L149[06:12:57] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> two block airlock!
L150[06:13:14] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> which actually matches pressure, that is
L151[06:26:39] <Mic​hiyo> http://tinyurl.com/yae7pltm
L152[06:26:47] <Michiyo> Bought a server rack @ IKEA... lol
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L154[06:29:34] <Izaya> a lack rack?
L155[06:29:43] <Izaya> unrelated but, anyone know of stuff like RSS but not XML?
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L157[06:30:17] <Michiyo> a lack rack indeed :P
L158[06:30:37] <ThePi​Guy24> probably something like "fëiösuäl"
L159[06:30:50] <Michiyo> $9.99 for the table, and $15 for some angle brackets and MDF
L160[06:31:18] <Michiyo> just got tired of everything hanging out under my bed lol
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L163[07:00:44] <Ocawesome101> what the hell
L164[07:01:06] <Ocawesome101> why is `checkArg(1, k, "string", "number")` erroring with `attempt to call a nil value`
L165[07:02:19] <Izaya> is checkArg defined?
L166[07:02:24] <Izaya> it's not a standard Lua function
L167[07:03:16] <Ocawesome101> yeah
L168[07:03:21] <Ocawesome101> this is in Monolith
L169[07:03:34] <Ocawesome101> it wasn't doing it before....
L170[07:03:42] <Izaya> Probably environment related then
L171[07:05:05] <Ocawesome101> probably
L172[07:05:23] <Ocawesome101> all i did was rewrite the scheduler, which doesn't touch environments
L173[07:08:34] <Izaya> most unusual
L174[07:08:44] <Izaya> oh, that's neat, I guess.
L175[07:09:06] <Izaya> the Fuchas installer hangs ocvm.
L176[07:09:39] <Ocawesome101> noice
L177[07:09:45] <Ocawesome101> that seems to be a common issue
L178[07:10:07] <Izaya> ocvm doesn't force yields when you use the internet card or something
L179[07:10:17] <Izaya> it's easy to hang the machine by busy-waiting for data to be available
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L181[07:24:38] <CompanionCube> random fact: There's been some top-tier mental gymnastics from a SCOTUS judge today
L182[07:27:30] <Forcl​aster> about what
L183[07:28:02] <CompanionCube> how high do you have to jump to believe that the establishment clause was intended to allow state-level official religion
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L185[07:36:56] <Izaya> pls explain
L186[07:42:22] <CompanionCube> Izaya: the us constitution has a law explicit clause stating that congress can't establish religion, and it's been accepted that it's binding on the states too
L187[07:43:03] <CompanionCube> this was an off-hand remark in today's bullshit about a state not wanting to fund private religious schools, which the court overruled
L188[07:47:08] <Izaya> > state funding private schools
L189[07:47:16] <Izaya> I mean, I know it happens here, but it just doesn't make sense
L190[07:47:31] <Izaya> if it's a private school, then let it be private
L191[07:48:25] <Izaya> I guess it means they can hold the funding over schools so they teach the curriculum but...
L192[07:49:06] <CompanionCube> Izaya: same dude also has ...interesting... opinions on the whole church/state is
L193[07:50:50] <CompanionCube> a weird kind of 'seperation of religion and state hurts religion and we should adopt a new interpretation to fix this'
L194[07:51:26] <Izaya> Religion is arbitrary and should be unrelated to the state
L195[07:52:55] <CompanionCube> exactly
L196[07:53:00] <Ar​iri> now where have I seen this?... hmm
L197[07:53:08] <Ar​iri> oh wait! the late 1600s
L198[07:53:20] <CompanionCube> ...late?
L199[07:53:46] <CompanionCube> the 30 years war was over by 1650 :p
L200[07:54:04] <Ar​iri> Well it was common throughout, but iirc people were killed in American colonies by rejecting such ideas
L201[07:54:19] <Ar​iri> I wasnt referring the 30 years war, but that works too
L202[07:55:31] <Izaya> Speaking of "Where have I seen this"
L203[07:55:35] <Izaya> https://social.shadowkat.net/media/d14e9bd0b4e6ec35407b5caf55e589f394dcf025a0761e1cfdcfe234312d9087.jpg
L204[07:55:39] <Izaya> https://social.shadowkat.net/media/9d9cd179eeb603d76da8e5243a5e10fbb58c692eade750cb463caeae24a09ce7.jpg
L205[07:56:14] <Ar​iri> Funnily enough, i was just rewatching bits of ds9
L206[08:04:06] <Forcl​aster> Lizzy I've installed a shipyard now
L207[08:04:46] <Forcl​aster> I'm going to head back to my mining spot soon, if you want a chance to earn some money you should take a mining equipped ship and come with
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L213[09:34:15] <Forcl​aster> %sip
L214[09:34:37] <Forcl​aster> um
L215[09:34:47] <MichiBot> You drink a thick copper potion (New!). The bottle turns into a piece of bacon.
L216[09:34:58] <Forcl​aster> oh
L217[09:35:07] <Forcl​aster> I think Michiyo's server might be overloaded again
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L219[09:47:37] <stephan48> 4
L220[09:48:05] <Forcl​aster> that's the number I was thinking of!
L221[09:48:16] <Forcl​aster> burn the witch!
L222[09:49:09] * stephan48 lights a fire under Forclaster
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L225[10:08:13] <Ar​iri> Ah, the ol’ switcheroo
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L235[11:56:22] <Forecaster> %tonkout
L236[11:56:23] <MichiBot> Fudge! Forec​aster! You beat Li​zzy's previous record of 8 hours, 45 minutes and 6 seconds (By 13 minutes and 8 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L237[11:56:24] <MichiBot> Forec​aster has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.008 tonk points! plus 0.007 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 0.99665. Position #3 Need 0.11731 more points to pass Compan​ionCube!
L238[11:56:32] <Forecaster> phew
L239[11:58:27] <Lizzy> NUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
L240[11:58:45] <Lizzy> %tonk
L241[11:58:46] <MichiBot> Fopdoodle! Li​zzy! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of <0 (By 2 minutes and 23 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L242[11:58:47] <MichiBot> Lizzy's new record is 2 minutes and 23 seconds! Lizzy also gained 0.00004 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #4. Need 0.13689 more points to pass Forec​aster!
L243[11:59:06] <Lizzy> also @Forecaster idk where i am at the moment lol
L244[11:59:36] <Forcl​aster> do you have an inara account?
L245[12:00:25] <Lizzy> inra?
L246[12:00:30] <Lizzy> *inara?
L247[12:01:13] <Forcl​aster> it's a website that uses the Journal API to get information and display it, like ships, their equipment, where you are, how much money you have etc
L248[12:01:32] <Forcl​aster> you could create an account there and sync it with your frontier account
L249[12:01:39] <Forcl​aster> or just log into the game I suppose :P
L250[12:03:34] <Lizzy> i wonder if E:D will like being in a tiling WM
L251[12:04:09] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER: wash the bedding and elephant, they getting stanky
L252[12:04:20] <Lizzy> oh, it's launching via steam play, that's going to maybe be a no
L253[12:05:21] <Lizzy> or it just wont run at all
L254[12:08:50] <Forcl​aster> ohno
L255[12:11:54] <Forcl​aster> The carrier is currently in `LTT 17422` and the next waypoint is `Col 285 Sector FO-D A28-2`
L256[12:13:28] <Fe​ris> how to use biometric reader from opensecurity?
L257[12:14:19] <Izaya> it queues a signal
L258[12:14:32] <Izaya> it has a page on the opensecurity wiki IIRC
L259[12:15:18] <Fe​ris> ik but how to get a signal?
L260[12:16:41] <Izaya> ~w signals
L261[12:16:41] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:signals
L262[12:18:23] <Fe​ris> how i can put this into a signal? ```setEventName(String:name)```
L263[12:20:01] <Izaya> That's so you can set what event the reader queues when it's activated
L264[12:21:18] <Fe​ris> but how i can make it example give redstone signal if im activate it
L265[12:21:46] <Amanda> Izaya: also ocvm has a bug where it'll never return nil when you read math.huge, so fuchsia and it's installer will just hang forever
L266[12:22:41] <Lizzy> hm, E:D still doesn't want to run for me, i probably need to restart my pc
L267[12:23:08] <Izaya> You'd need to wait for the signal, then run the functions to set the redstone signal
L268[12:23:13] <Izaya> ~w redstone
L269[12:23:13] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:redstone
L270[12:23:29] <Fe​ris> i know how to give redstone signal but how to make it activate only on me
L271[12:24:18] <Izaya> event.pull and filtering is probably what you're after
L272[12:24:20] <Izaya> ~w event
L273[12:24:21] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:event
L274[12:26:55] <Fe​ris> nothing fucking biometric scanners on the opencomputers forum
L275[12:30:00] <Amanda> I don't think the sensors are meant to take that kind of biometric
L276[12:30:03] * Amanda flees
L277[12:35:01] <Ko​dos> Right so
L278[12:35:05] <Ko​dos> I’m awake now
L279[12:35:27] <Ko​dos> Feris. When right clicked the biometric scanners trigger an event with your UUID
L280[12:36:09] <Ko​dos> So you’ll need to make some sort of event handler to catch it and trigger your redstone
L281[12:37:38] <Fe​ris> ok
L282[12:37:48] <Fe​ris> http://tinyurl.com/y9922hur
L283[12:37:51] <Fe​ris> how to check current elevator floor?
L284[12:38:09] <Ko​dos> getFloor
L285[12:38:17] <Fe​ris> omg
L286[12:38:39] <Ko​dos> Oh i see what you’re asking
L287[12:38:42] <Fe​ris> getFloor returns the floor assigned to the controller 😑
L288[12:41:35] <Fe​ris> i want to get current floor to example. if elevator will be on 2st floor open the doors
L289[12:42:50] <Amanda> Keep track of it yourself. That's what I did
L290[12:43:10] <Fe​ris> ?
L291[12:43:39] <Amanda> Though I was using rftools elevator
L292[12:44:30] <Ko​dos> Which lift is that
L293[12:44:35] <Fe​ris> its connectable with opencomputers?
L294[12:44:38] <Fe​ris> thut's
L295[12:44:51] <Ko​dos> Doesn’t thuts controllers light up the button of the floor it’s on?
L296[12:45:18] <Fe​ris> http://tinyurl.com/ycawje27
L297[12:45:30] <Ko​dos> Yes the green one is current
L298[12:45:33] <Fe​ris> yes
L299[12:45:46] <Fe​ris> i want to open door when elevator floor = 2
L300[12:46:09] <Ko​dos> The best thing I can recommend is to use the aliases in your code for each address to be assigned to a floor
L301[12:46:36] <Fe​ris> i dont have any code?
L302[12:46:37] <Fe​ris> lol
L303[12:47:06] <Ko​dos> ¯\(ツ)/¯
L304[12:48:06] <Fe​ris> than i cant get current floor?
L305[12:50:35] <Mr.Gre​en Cake> Hello. Is in Open Computers any security feature with which i can grant public access but only to use one program and not anything other (like interrupting the program with ctrl+alt+c) etc...?
L306[12:52:57] <Ko​dos> You could just make your programmable interactive via a monitor in touch mode and hide the other components in a non public area
L307[12:53:04] <Ko​dos> Program
L308[12:54:01] <Izaya> Amanda: re: ocvm differences, yeah, figured it was bugs causing it not to work, can't be bothered to work out how to build the system from source but not package it with an installer
L309[12:55:04] <Mr.Gre​en Cake> the problem is that when it is accessable via monitor, you can't really set it onto only touch mode
L310[12:55:41] <Amanda> Izaya: the pastebin link is actually just a proxy to download the ocvm installer from the GitHub. Then you just need to change the GitHub installer to not read math.huge
L311[12:55:51] <Mr.Gre​en Cake> maybe if there's no OS it would be okay
L312[12:56:00] <Amanda> We, the openos installer
L313[12:56:04] <Izaya> Amanda: yeah but even that hung which was fun
L314[12:56:38] <Izaya> I was looking at porting Minitel but it doesn't have a sanctioned way for sending user datagrams and I'm not sure anyone actually uses it anyway
L315[12:57:07] <Izaya> https://cdn.mastodon.technology/media_attachments/files/007/128/792/original/1c2a4e8d61e07130.jpeg
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L317[12:57:41] <Amanda> Izaya: because that installer then downloads a tar of the image itself! It's turtles all the way down with Fuschia
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L319[12:58:38] <Amanda> and both installers, the pastebin and github ones use math.huge for the read from the internet card, which triggers the ocvm bug
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L325[13:00:21] <Izaya> Good times :D
L326[13:00:28] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jh-FQvz0EhQ seems tasty
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L328[13:00:39] <Izaya> Oh well, can't say I test any better, I haven't even opened the game in a month or two
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L337[13:05:13] * Amanda opens a ocvm issue for it for payonel to reference next time he's spoonful, since she made a repro anyway
L338[13:06:53] <Izaya> also, your thoughts on library aliasing and having packages able to add library aliases?
L339[13:07:37] <Amanda> read how? Like, tell what alias it's accesed from, or just know the aliases exist?
L340[13:08:05] <Amanda> the former seems a bit unnessary, the latter seems like normal behaviour if you'd `require "package"`?
L341[13:08:33] <Izaya> so the main reason I added library aliases is pretty much so I can alias download.https to download.http
L342[13:08:35] <Izaya> and use the same handler
L343[13:09:08] <Izaya> but packages as in package manager packages
L344[13:09:25] <Izaya> I guess a more general idea is having a system-maintained list of aliases that can be modified and saved at runtime
L345[13:09:25] <Amanda> OH
L346[13:09:30] <Izaya> but I'm unsure how to handle that
L347[13:09:31] <Amanda> I mis-parsed, sorry
L348[13:09:53] <Amanda> packages adding aliases seems not that bad, but at the same time it'd tie the package manager deeper into the OS
L349[13:10:08] <Izaya> ideally it'd just be a wrapper for system functions
L350[13:10:14] <Izaya> but I'm not sure how to handle that
L351[13:11:22] <Amanda> could have something like /etc/lua/aliases/ which contains files (the alias) and their contents being a string containing the package it's an alias to. symlinks would be preferred, but isn't exactly portable in proper OC (They die cross-OS, IIRC )
L352[13:11:29] <Amanda> er, cross-fs not cross-os
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L354[13:11:51] <Izaya> PsychOS doesn't do symlinks at that level either
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L356[13:12:24] <Izaya> oh no
L357[13:12:26] <Izaya> cursed idea
L358[13:12:50] <Izaya> move /boot/service into /boot/lib/service so you can require("service.getty")
L359[13:13:21] <Izaya> and /boot/lib/service/init.lua would be the rc library
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L363[13:16:21] <Forcl​aster> @Mr.Green Cake you probably want a custom OS that only recognizes touch stuff
L364[13:16:45] <Izaya> or just capture the ^C event
L365[13:16:49] <Izaya> and/or error
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L373[13:34:23] <Mr.Gre​en Cake> @Forclaster yeah, could be. do you know about something like that?
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L375[13:34:43] <Forcl​aster> I meant you'll want to write one
L376[13:35:09] <Mr.Gre​en Cake> i never programmed a OS so...
L377[13:35:20] <Forcl​aster> ~oc custom os
L378[13:35:20] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/tutorial:custom_oses
L379[13:35:21] <Mr.Gre​en Cake> i've never programmed a OS so... [Edited]
L380[13:35:36] <Mr.Gre​en Cake> holy moly
L381[13:35:52] <Izaya> ~w pcall
L382[13:35:52] <ocdoc> http://www.lua.org/manual/5.2/manual.html#pdf-pcall
L383[13:36:03] <Izaya> if you wrap your function in a pcall you can catch the terminated error
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L389[13:59:21] * Saphire flop
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L391[14:06:03] <Forcl​aster> %pet Saphire
L392[14:06:04] <MichiBot> Forclaster is brushing Saphire with pulseaudio. Saphire regains 1d4 => 2 hit points!
L393[14:06:21] <Forcl​aster> sounds sci-fi
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L398[15:09:14] <Forcl​aster> @Ariri in case you want to know as well: The carrier is currently in `LTT 17422` and the next waypoint is `Col 285 Sector FO-D A28-2`
L399[15:09:34] <Lizzy> hmm, even after a restart and some other changes, E:D still wont launch for me
L400[15:09:38] <Lizzy> lets go poke some things
L401[15:12:51] <Lizzy> The entry point method could not be loaded due to Could not load file or assembly 'PresentationFramework, Version=3.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=31bf3856ad364e35' or one of its dependencies.
L402[15:12:54] * Lizzy sighs
L403[15:19:27] <Izaya> Worked when I tried it a few days back, no Proton tweaking necessary
L404[15:20:41] <Lizzy> doesn't seem to be working for me
L405[15:21:02] <Lizzy> trying a protontricks command to install dotnet4.0 into the proton dir
L406[15:23:31] <Lizzy> it got further
L407[15:23:46] <Lizzy> oh
L408[15:23:50] <Lizzy> it just crashed
L409[15:23:52] <Lizzy> -_-
L410[15:24:02] <Izaya> https://fedi.valkyrie.world/media/0f2203bed54cb9711015bfbc1c06537ca3cc519b4dbc140c8f925e8a829e19c7.png
L411[15:24:33] <Lizzy> oh, non-horizons launcher loads
L412[15:25:22] <Lizzy> will the game launch properly now, that is the question
L413[15:25:39] <Lizzy> looks like that's gonna be a nope
L414[15:25:46] <Forcl​aster> aw
L415[15:26:12] <Amanda> %choose foo-common or modules/foo
L416[15:26:12] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: The proof is in the pudding. Definitely "foo-common". Now please get it out of my pudding.
L417[15:28:35] <Lizzy> k, even disabling the steam overlay doesn't do much
L418[15:57:17] * Lizzy gives up on E:D for now
L419[15:57:28] <Lizzy> might switch to windows to play it later
L420[15:58:35] <Forcl​aster> well I'll be playing dnd tonight, but you know where the carrier is (or my next waypoint if that is closer)
L421[15:58:54] <Lizzy> ok
L422[16:12:00] <Forcl​aster> %tonk
L423[16:12:01] <MichiBot> Fopdoodle! Forcl​aster! You beat Li​zzy's previous record of 2 minutes and 23 seconds (By 4 hours, 10 minutes and 50 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L424[16:12:02] <MichiBot> Forclaster's new record is 4 hours, 13 minutes and 13 seconds! Forclaster also gained 0.00418 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #17. (Overtook 20kdc) Need 0.00028 more points to pass R​ph!
L425[16:12:12] <Forcl​aster> oh right, dangit
L426[16:12:27] <Forecaster> %tonkmerge Forecaster Forclaster
L427[16:12:28] <MichiBot> Merge successful! Forclaster: 0.00418 + Forecaster: 0.99665 => Forecaster: 1.00083
L428[16:53:32] <Lizzy> hmm, do i want to play with the hospitality mod for rimworld this time through...
L429[16:55:18] * Saphire pulses with audio
L430[16:56:06] <Saphire> ...how does tonkmerge determine it is valid?
L431[16:56:36] <Inari> WEll
L432[16:56:42] <Inari> If you abuse it, you'll probably not do so for long
L433[16:56:47] <Inari> Also maybe only admins can do it
L434[16:56:49] <Lizzy> it's admin only
L435[16:57:02] <Inari> %pet Saphire
L436[16:57:03] <MichiBot> Inari is petting Saphire with NaN. Saphire regains 1d4 => 3 hit points!
L437[16:57:16] <Saphire> Okay, that's better
L438[16:57:55] <Forec​aster> what do you mean valid
L439[16:58:34] <Inari> Whether someone ca just do %tonkmerge Saphire Forecaster I guess
L440[16:58:34] <Inari> :p
L441[16:58:57] <Forec​aster> in that case it's like Lizzy said
L442[16:59:17] <Forec​aster> otherwise the only validation is that both names have to be on the scoreboard, it can't create new entries
L443[16:59:18] <Michiyo> @Forecaster re: your overloaded server comment... backup runs everynight @ 12AM and the full backups can take a while and load the server down fairly heavily. Though it may have also been caused by the OVH outage that is still causing issues
L444[16:59:54] <Lizzy> %choose hospitality or no?
L445[16:59:55] <MichiBot> Li​zzy: I'm 40% "hospitality"!
L446[17:00:05] <Forec​aster> sure you are MichiBot
L447[17:00:06] <Lizzy> hmm
L448[17:00:12] <Inari> Who are you being hospitable to
L449[17:00:19] <Lizzy> rimworld
L450[17:00:30] <Forec​aster> %choose use hospitality mod
L451[17:00:31] <MichiBot> Forec​aster: Yes! Do it now!
L452[17:00:39] <Michiyo> http://travaux.ovh.net/?do=details&id=45462&
L453[18:30:23] <Michiyo> %p
L454[18:30:24] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Mic​hiyo 0.37s
L455[18:32:01] <Forec​aster> hm, trying to decide how targeting should work for non-blue shells...
L456[18:32:44] <Forec​aster> it'll either be free targeting (but only forward) or it'll randomly target someone ahead of you...
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L459[19:15:00] <Bruher> hey guys
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L462[20:02:12] <Ocawes​ome101> right, because nobody responded within half a second :P
L463[20:04:04] <Amanda> %choose halucinate time?
L464[20:04:04] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Oh, I've heard about that. You'll want to wait until tomorrow.
L465[20:04:13] <Amanda> I think no
L466[20:04:21] <Michiyo> it was 10 seconds! lol
L467[20:04:41] <Ocawes​ome101> Monolith's scheduler is giving me no end of painnnnnnn
L468[20:04:49] <Ocawes​ome101> processes don't get signals
L469[20:04:50] <Ocawes​ome101> and
L470[20:05:01] <Ocawes​ome101> readline is completely broken
L471[20:05:52] <Ocawes​ome101> ... no, they get signals
L472[20:06:34] <Ocawes​ome101> wtf
L473[20:06:53] <Ocawes​ome101> apparently readline just spontaneously roke
L474[20:06:55] <Ocawes​ome101> apparently readline just spontaneously broke [Edited]
L475[20:27:02] <Corded> * <Ocawes​ome101> sighs
L476[20:27:09] <Ar​iri> %tonk
L477[20:27:10] <MichiBot> Waesucks! Ar​iri! You beat Forcl​aster's previous record of 4 hours, 13 minutes and 13 seconds (By 1 minute and 55 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L478[20:27:11] <MichiBot> Ariri's new record is 4 hours, 15 minutes and 8 seconds! Ariri also gained 0.00015 (0.00003 x 5) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #11. Need 0.00633 more points to pass The_St​argazer!
L479[20:27:11] <Ar​iri> out
L480[20:27:16] <Ar​iri> whoops
L481[20:27:54] <Ocawes​ome101> can someone take a look at https://github.com/ocawesome101/oc-monolith/blob/master/kernel/module/process.lua ? it doesn't work properly in regards to process timeouts - `thread.lua` in the same folder does.
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L483[21:07:46] <KR3VIV> hello therE?
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L485[21:08:17] <Lizzy> a whole second
L486[21:10:36] <Ar​iri> Wow!
L487[21:17:32] <Amanda> [ fry squinting ]
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L491[22:51:05] <Forec​aster> %sip
L492[22:51:07] <MichiBot> You drink a stirring jumbonium potion (New!). The potion contained a computer virus! Forecaster hears a maniacal laugh as their cursor flips upside down!
L493[22:51:22] <Forec​aster> But I'm on my phone
L494[22:51:26] <Forec​aster> D:
L495[22:55:24] <B​ob> %discord
L496[22:55:25] <MichiBot> B​ob: https://discord.gg/0hVukoQ2KYm2aoXh
L497[22:59:05] <HydroN​itrogen> :Robot:
L498[22:59:43] <HydroN​itrogen> I am actually not entirely sure if advertising Discord servers here is allowed, but me and Bob were just talking about pinning a link to this server in my Minecraft Computer mods guild, so we did
L499[23:00:08] <HydroN​itrogen> I was wondering if people here might be interested in joining the Minecraft Computer Mods server aswell!
L500[23:00:25] <HydroN​itrogen> We've even got OC emojis!
L501[23:00:56] <B​ob> I was mainly thinking about redirecting users with some genuine OC quirks or bugs here, of course, having emotes make us clearly superior
L502[23:03:03] <Forec​aster> But you don't have a MichBot.
L503[23:03:16] <B​ob> :GWczeAngryCry:
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