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L1[00:01:06] <PwnageP​ineapple> @Forecaster Thing is, by the time I'm starting with OC in a modpack, I've usually already built whatever endgame power solution is in the pack, so energy costs don't really matter
L2[00:03:31] <pay​onel> sheep power
L3[00:03:36] <Izaya> s/netw/w/
L4[00:03:36] <MichiBot> <Ocawesome101> I use arch because it's what I had on hand, it's up-to-date, and it works better than Manjaro for whatever reason
L5[00:04:28] <Forec​aster> I dunno then 🤷
L6[00:11:49] <Ocawes​ome101> Izaya: arch is snappier, so I can't disagree :P
L7[00:12:57] <Izaya> less breakage, too
L8[00:21:34] <Ocawes​ome101> ffs is there some kind of generator I can make that doesn't require 45123 different materials??
L9[00:23:26] ⇦ Quits: Inari (~Pinkishu@p508ef5e1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Quit: KVIrc 5.0.0 Aria http://www.kvirc.net/)
L10[00:26:20] <Izaya> windmill + kinetic dynamo
L11[00:26:44] <PwnageP​ineapple> water wheel + kinetic dynamo
L12[00:27:22] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> hey i use arch btw
L13[00:27:43] <pay​onel> AA, arch user anonymous
L14[00:39:46] <Kristo​pher38> I'd rather look at it from a different angle, is there a generator that doesn't need much iron for the power outputted and easy maintenance?
L15[00:40:22] <pay​onel> if you need oc power, sheep power 🙂
L16[00:40:36] <Kristo​pher38> All generators either require some serious mid to endgame items or use up a lot of iron
L17[00:41:03] <Kristo​pher38> I'm talking about real generators :P
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L19[00:48:21] <Ocawes​ome101> I had to dig 100-200 blocks to find anything other than vanilla ores :P
L20[00:49:56] <Kristo​pher38> You're kidding me
L21[00:50:06] <Kristo​pher38> All I find are modded ores
L22[00:52:00] <Ocawes​ome101> I was still in spawn chunks at that point, hence digging that far
L23[00:52:17] <Ocawes​ome101> I first started the server with no mods so there is an area that's all vanilla
L24[01:05:24] <PwnageP​ineapple> So I think I've figured out what I'm gonna do: I'm gonna remove linked cards entirely (configurable) and have a (also configurable) list of dimension IDs that can connect to satellites orbiting the overworld, containing the nether and the end by default
L25[01:06:42] <Kristo​pher38> smh
L26[01:07:09] <PwnageP​ineapple> It's a tad immersion-breaking, but that's better than being feature-breaking
L27[01:07:39] <pay​onel> or...make link cards very expensive
L28[01:07:41] <pay​onel> 🙂
L29[01:07:55] <pay​onel> or, only sell them one at a time
L30[01:08:02] <pay​onel> and control the relays with the paired link card
L31[01:08:14] <pay​onel> provision their use
L32[01:08:23] <PwnageP​ineapple> As far as operational costs go, by the time I'm getting around to OC, power is a non-issue
L33[01:08:50] <PwnageP​ineapple> And I can't think of any other operational cost to apply
L34[01:09:15] <Klea​dron> imagine a mod that removes every single vanilla item and block
L35[01:10:50] <pay​onel> remove every single vanilla thing? terrafirmacraft
L36[01:11:54] <PwnageP​ineapple> lmao I love hardcore mods but even I won't touch that
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L38[01:13:32] <Lizzy> %remindme 12h double-check nfs mount stuff on laptop
L39[01:13:33] <MichiBot> I'll remind you about "double-check nfs mount stuff on laptop" at 06/02/2020 05:13:33 AM
L40[01:21:17] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> tfc is okay
L41[01:42:55] <Ocawes​ome101> hmmm
L42[01:43:14] <Ocawes​ome101> monolith technically works on a single 192k mem stick
L43[01:43:18] <Ocawes​ome101> however
L44[01:43:28] <Ocawes​ome101> it needs at least another couple kb to be usable
L45[01:44:59] <Ocawes​ome101> also fled on full t1 works about as fast as plan9k's editor on t3 lmao
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L48[03:16:24] <Ant​heus> one of these days i'll start messing with OC again
L49[03:16:44] <Ant​heus> been a good 5ish years
L50[03:16:53] <Ant​heus> I think
L51[03:16:59] <Ant​heus> might be 4
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L53[03:29:04] <Blue_595> Read more than one word, maybe the first two.
L54[03:29:24] <Blue_595> still proud of my ability to £
L55[03:30:34] <Blue_595> yo mama so hot peter grifin farrt
L56[04:03:07] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> jesus fucking christ
L57[04:03:46] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> fuck richmond
L58[04:14:08] <Amanda> %remindthem Lizzy 5h and give Amanda scritchies and noms
L59[04:14:08] <MichiBot> I'll remind Lizzy about "and give Amanda scritchies and noms" at 06/02/2020 01:14:08 AM
L60[04:14:18] <Amanda> ... oops
L61[04:14:27] <Amanda> I can't math
L62[04:14:45] * Amanda snugsafairy, prepares for sleep
L63[04:17:03] <Amanda> Oh wait no, timezones messed me up
L64[04:17:17] <Amanda> ... and I can't math
L65[04:17:24] <Amanda> Oh well, night nerds
L66[04:23:27] <Ar​iri> noight
L67[04:50:27] * Elfi dozes curled up with Amanda z.z
L68[05:01:03] ⇦ Quits: Thutmose (~Patrick@host-69-59-79-181.nctv.com) (Quit: Leaving.)
L69[05:45:23] <Forec​aster> %sip
L70[05:45:23] <MichiBot> You drink a gloomy metal potion (New!). A bunch of people in white coats approach you. They fail to evade it with a 9 vs DC 12 and takes 0 damage.
L71[05:45:36] <Forec​aster> Ohno
L72[06:35:30] <Ocawes​ome101> @payonel how's bug squashing going? :P
L73[06:35:42] <pay​onel> repro'd the host path bug
L74[06:35:43] <Ocawes​ome101> were you able to reproduce it?
L75[06:35:46] <Ocawes​ome101> oh cool
L76[06:35:51] <pay​onel> but focusing on some survival fun tonight
L77[06:35:56] <Ocawes​ome101> fair
L78[06:35:56] <pay​onel> yeah, i'll have to scrub that path
L79[06:36:11] <Ocawes​ome101> s c r u b i t
L80[06:36:13] <pay​onel> the host system is returning that to real fs open
L81[06:36:32] <Izaya> well this is cursed
L82[06:37:17] <Izaya> my "sendmail" that speaks XMPP works fine, but Gitea only spits out invalid verification links
L83[06:37:45] <Sagh​etti> XMPP sendmail
L84[06:37:52] <Izaya> yes
L85[06:37:52] <Sagh​etti> :what:
L86[06:38:07] <Sagh​etti> what is your obsession with xmpp
L87[06:38:17] <Izaya> it's a lua script that parses sendmail arguments and MIME email and sends it over XMPP
L88[06:38:25] <Izaya> it's more a sheer dislike of email tbh
L89[06:39:45] <Ocawes​ome101> I fixed the Monolith installer today
L90[06:40:12] <Ocawes​ome101> payonel: at some point can we have an EEPROM that lets one netboot?
L91[06:40:17] <Ocawes​ome101> i.e. from the internet
L92[06:40:26] <ThePi​Guy24> weve been in need of something better than email since the internet
L93[06:40:54] <Ocawes​ome101> also my internet was down until about 20 minutes ago lo
L94[06:40:56] <Ocawes​ome101> + l
L95[06:41:31] <ThePi​Guy24> alright time to continue making cursed resource packs
L96[06:42:03] <Izaya> did you know
L97[06:42:13] <Izaya> gitea sends email with \r\n, not just \n
L98[06:42:26] <Izaya> wait
L99[06:42:28] <Izaya> wait
L100[06:42:30] <Izaya> is that the problem
L101[06:43:31] <Izaya> no
L102[06:43:32] <Izaya> no it is not
L103[06:43:34] <Izaya> fuck
L104[06:43:56] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> hmm
L105[06:44:13] <Izaya> I gsub'd away the \rs
L106[06:58:55] <CompanionCube> Izaya: time to go spleunking to see what makes codes valid?
L107[06:59:18] <Izaya> turns out
L108[06:59:26] <Izaya> it's a MIME quoted-printable quirk
L109[06:59:41] <Izaya> shout-out to AdorableCatgirl for being less blind than me
L110[07:00:01] <CompanionCube> everyone hates encodings
L111[07:00:07] <CompanionCube> especially email encodings
L112[07:00:34] <Blue_595> o/
L113[07:09:48] <Blue_595> Well, that's one less baby tooth to worry about in the morning.
L114[07:10:00] <Blue_595> (Top-left bicuspid if you're curious)
L115[07:11:23] <Izaya> alright well
L116[07:11:31] <Izaya> XMPP signup for my Gitea instance now works
L117[07:12:31] <Blue_595> alarm clock idea
L118[07:12:52] <Blue_595> what if you gave it a GIANT playlist (1,000+ songs) and it picked one at random to wake you up
L119[07:13:12] <Blue_595> so it would be different every day (mostly)
L120[07:13:18] <CompanionCube> Izaya: ooh, i feel like trying it
L121[07:13:33] <Blue_595> i could imagine it ending in you hating all those songs, but maybe you don't associate any song with the terrible feeling of waking up
L122[07:17:40] <Blue_595> not gonna let you forget about this picture https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZaMvLbXkAUfvo5?format=jpg&name=large
L123[07:17:52] <Blue_595> thanks... Inari i think it was
L124[07:18:14] <Izaya> gonna restart it rq, working on templates
L125[07:18:23] <Izaya> this will log you out
L126[07:21:37] <CompanionCube> Izaya: is there a reason the message contains the URL twice, the second time in brackets?
L127[07:22:01] <Izaya> Gitea converts HTML to plain text internally
L128[07:22:09] <Izaya> I'm going to modify the template to not bother eventually
L129[07:23:07] <CompanionCube> but i can confirm that the xmpp worky
L130[07:23:16] <Izaya> shiny
L131[07:23:18] <Izaya> :D
L132[07:23:35] <Izaya> my browser likes to cache images indefinitely
L133[07:23:39] <Izaya> the logo is still the fuckin gitea logo
L134[07:23:41] <Ar​iri> whats wrong with that picture
L135[07:23:43] <Ar​iri> she a qt
L136[07:24:54] <Blue_595> wdym Ariti
L137[07:24:56] <Blue_595> Ariri*
L138[07:25:15] <CompanionCube> Izaya: you could also come up with an XMPP symbol for the profile
L139[07:25:44] <Ar​iri> "not gonna let you forget about this picture"
L140[07:26:01] <Blue_595> yeah not the best words
L141[07:26:17] <Blue_595> i meant help you remember
L142[07:26:28] <Izaya> CompanionCube: p sure that's unicode
L143[07:26:48] <Izaya> aaah fonts
L144[07:27:15] <Izaya> might even be PUA
L145[07:29:52] <CompanionCube> lol
L146[07:32:29] <CompanionCube> Izaya: https://github.com/allo-/HTTPAuthentificationOverXMPP relevant?
L147[07:33:29] <Izaya> oooo
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L149[07:34:06] <Blue_595> materwelon
L150[07:34:52] <Blue_595> https://i.imgur.com/jwyJ5SW.jpg chig bungus
L151[07:35:16] <Klea​dron> you posted this yesterday as well as the anime girl picture
L152[07:35:26] <Klea​dron> are you ok
L153[07:35:47] <Blue_595> yes
L154[07:35:51] <Blue_595> i just repeat myself
L155[07:35:53] <Blue_595> i just repeat myself
L156[07:44:51] <Izaya> CompanionCube: amusingly
L157[07:44:57] <Izaya> gitea only sends out plain-text email
L158[07:45:16] <Izaya> actually wait no I'm just not even reading the HTML part
L159[07:45:17] <Izaya> never mind
L160[07:45:53] <Inari 「オ​兄デレ」「狐っ娘」> 2020 be like http://tinyurl.com/y6uwwqke
L161[07:49:38] <CompanionCube> Izaya: inb4 OMEMO-encrypted gitea messages
L162[07:50:28] <Izaya> not worth the time or effort tbh
L163[07:50:33] <Izaya> though I do want to set an avatar
L164[07:52:07] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> tsuki's build system is godtier
L165[07:52:08] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> /s
L166[07:53:08] * CompanionCube agrees
L167[07:53:25] <CompanionCube> setting the avatar to be the site logo should be fine
L168[07:53:51] <Izaya> yeah that's the plan
L169[07:56:00] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> man
L170[07:56:05] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> i am tired
L171[07:56:13] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> will vibe tomorrow
L172[07:56:16] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> o7
L173[07:56:30] <Izaya> sleep well friendo
L174[07:57:01] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> https://git.shadowkat.net/sam/OC-Tsuki/src/branch/master
L175[07:57:06] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> btw here's tsuki
L176[07:57:58] <Blue_595> correct Inari
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L178[08:01:00] <Izaya> <a href="{{AppUrl}}{{$.Comment.Issue.PullRequest.BaseRepo.OwnerName}}/{{$.Comment.Issue.PullRequest.BaseRepo.Name}}/commit/{{.ID}}">
L179[08:04:01] ⇦ Quits: Backslash (~Backslash@d137-186-220-152.abhsia.telus.net) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
L180[08:05:32] <Inari> Squirrels are great
L181[08:25:55] <Izaya> @Saghetti actually, my obsession is along the lines of it's the only worthwhile IM system around so I might as well make good use of it
L182[08:45:27] <CompanionCube> *only* is a bit strong
L183[08:45:48] <Izaya> yeah it is
L184[08:45:50] <Izaya> PSYC exists
L185[08:45:57] <Izaya> and IRC is good for specific things, if dated
L186[08:51:01] <CompanionCube> also matrix if you prefer JSON to XML or prefer Modern Webby stuff.
L187[08:52:14] <Izaya> I was explicitly excluding Matrix.
L188[08:52:37] <Izaya> Largely for technical reasons.
L189[08:53:57] <CompanionCube> it's a half-decent IM, even with it's own set of problems. Ironically webshit isn't one of them.
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L192[09:14:09] <MichiBot> Lizzy REMINDER: and give Amanda scritchies and noms
L193[09:16:41] ⇨ Joins: Vexatos (~Vexatos@port-92-192-26-168.dynamic.as20676.net)
L194[09:16:41] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L195[09:26:09] <Forec​aster> pah, 89 tons, a poultry haul
L196[09:26:58] <Inari> 89 tons of poultry, mhmmm
L197[09:27:26] <Corded> * <Ar​iri> steals 40 tons
L198[09:27:52] <R​ph> To the people who run the oc.cil.li forum: Logging in with discord when having an animated profile picture results in a "missing image" icon. http://tinyurl.com/ycopruhp
L199[09:28:18] <Forec​aster> that is not what I meant... why did I type that
L200[09:28:19] <Forec​aster> :|
L201[09:28:43] <Forec​aster> I meant paltry obviously
L202[09:28:48] <Inari> haha
L203[09:28:55] <Inari> Your brain had a hiccup
L204[09:29:00] <Ar​iri> A sneak peak of my new base, w/o shaders and emissive lighting
L205[09:29:00] <Ar​iri> Wish I could group OpenLights together as one component to replace the neons tho
L206[09:29:01] <Ar​iri> https://lcars5201.ddns.net/index.php/s/2eYFi6aF9zqnjKC/preview
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L208[09:29:31] <Ar​iri> https://lcars5201.ddns.net/index.php/s/2eYFi6aF9zqnjKC [Edited]
L209[09:30:29] <Forec​aster> you can't?
L210[09:46:36] <Forec​aster> hmmm http://tinyurl.com/y78uwxpq
L211[09:46:56] <Forec​aster> when I left there were 89 tons...
L212[09:47:01] <Forec​aster> now there's 90...
L213[09:47:02] <Forec​aster> wut
L214[10:13:06] <Inari> Magnets are weird
L215[10:36:22] <Forec​aster> how do they work?!
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L220[11:14:16] <Inari> It's too damn warm
L221[11:14:38] <Forec​aster> that just means you're not cool enough
L222[11:22:50] <Inari> Thank god for fans
L223[11:27:04] ⇨ Joins: immibis (~immibis@46.114.37.54)
L224[11:27:17] <dequbed> > Izaya: gitea sends email with \r\n, not just \n
L225[11:27:20] * dequbed uncaps drink
L226[11:27:31] <dequbed> Wanna hear a tale of sorrow and hate about email?
L227[11:27:41] <Forec​aster> that's the best part of the bible, the part that says "let there be fans"
L228[11:28:07] <dequbed> CompanionCube: Ironically webshit is the first second and third problem of Matrix.
L229[11:34:06] <ma​ttx> standards specify that emails should be sent with \r\n and not \n
L230[11:34:15] <dequbed> ^
L231[11:34:48] <dequbed> Because SMTP uses a line based inline signaling system. Because Email.
L232[11:37:38] <ma​ttx> https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5321#section-2.3.8
L233[12:18:08] <Forec​aster> woooow
L234[12:18:12] <Forec​aster> 150 limpets spent
L235[12:18:18] <Forec​aster> 25 tons of LTD
L236[12:18:19] <Forec​aster> :|
L237[12:18:50] <Forec​aster> %choose should I give up for today
L238[12:18:51] <MichiBot> Forec​aster: Ah... well, I'd say wait an hour.
L239[12:19:41] <Forec​aster> no MichiBot I don't want to stop and then continue playing an hour later :|
L240[12:19:48] <Forec​aster> I'll try again tomorrow instead
L241[12:34:32] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER: see if you can manually bisect the colour oddities
L242[13:02:32] <SquidDev> %tonkout
L243[13:02:32] <MichiBot> Voldemort! Squi​dDev! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of 3 hours, 6 minutes and 53 seconds (By 12 hours, 59 minutes and 17 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L244[13:02:33] <MichiBot> Squi​dDev has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.016 tonk points! plus 0.015 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 0.8749. Position #3 => #1
L245[13:04:15] <Forec​aster> dangit
L246[13:05:28] <SquidDev> Sorry!
L247[13:05:49] <SquidDev> I guess the joys of it all being so close.
L248[13:13:34] <MichiBot> Lizzy REMINDER: double-check nfs mount stuff on laptop
L249[13:22:01] <Sap​hire> Rawr
L250[13:22:34] <Forec​aster> %splash Saphire
L251[13:22:35] <MichiBot> You fling a sedimented crimson potion (New!) that splashes onto Saphire. Saphire forgets the location of a great treasure.
L252[13:22:43] <Forec​aster> woops
L253[13:27:56] * Saphire pouts
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L255[13:28:06] <Ko​dos> %tonk
L256[13:28:06] <MichiBot> Voldemort! Ko​dos! You beat Squi​dDev's previous record of <0 (By 25 minutes and 33 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L257[13:28:07] <MichiBot> Kodos's new record is 25 minutes and 33 seconds! Kodos also gained 0.00043 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #10. Need 0.01485 more points to pass The_St​argazer!
L258[13:28:40] <Corded> * <Forec​aster> hides to avoid getting bitten or clawed
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L260[13:38:49] <Lizzy> thanks MichiBot
L261[13:38:55] * Lizzy pets MichiBot
L262[13:38:55] * MichiBot purrs
L263[13:40:43] * Amanda flops down against Lizzy, yawns
L264[13:40:50] * Lizzy soft-pats
L265[14:08:56] <Forec​aster> http://tinyurl.com/yaeuwj3k
L266[14:49:30] <Amanda> @payonel so... bad news.. the colour bug doesn't appear in master-MC1.7.10, but does in master-MC1.12 -- and I'm not sure how to `git bisect` it because of how OC's up-merging works.
L267[15:24:12] <Forec​aster> %sip
L268[15:24:12] <MichiBot> You drink a shiny aether potion (New!). Forecaster gains the proportional strength of a robot until Sozin's Comet returns.
L269[15:24:22] <Forec​aster> huh
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L271[16:01:58] <Amanda> @Payonel ... maybe it is in 1.7.10 -- seems to be related to swapping from a T3 GPU to a T2 one
L272[16:02:55] <Amanda> @payonel maybe something's not getting initialised right
L273[16:11:16] <t20kdc> Amanda: Try starting app-bmpview, loading the KittenOS NEO logo, and then switching back to something else.
L274[16:11:53] <Amanda> t20kdc: what I'm confused about is I logged back into Ariri's server, and my tablet's suddenly using the correct colours for stuff again
L275[16:12:12] <t20kdc> Amanda: ...ok, that sounds suspiciously networky
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L277[16:33:56] <Brisingr​Aerowing> Packet sync malfunction, perhaps?
L278[16:34:16] <Brisingr​Aerowing> Amanda: ^
L279[16:34:20] <Amanda> no idea
L280[16:34:58] <Brisingr​Aerowing> Another mod I used to use had a similar issue. It wasn't syncing things correctly.
L281[16:35:17] <Brisingr​Aerowing> That was back in 1.10, IIRC.
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L286[17:02:12] <Forec​aster> http://tinyurl.com/y74fsbxv
L287[17:02:14] <Forec​aster> Marvellous
L288[17:03:29] <Sagh​etti> great
L289[17:04:00] <Forec​aster> and to further clarify they've said http://tinyurl.com/yaasc2u4
L290[17:04:17] <Forec​aster> definitely not a subscription
L291[17:04:23] <B​ob> what the fuck is this
L292[17:05:46] <Forec​aster> more of big game publishers trying to re-define words to suit their needs and look better than they are
L293[17:08:55] <t20kdc> ...Ow... Ow......
L294[17:08:59] <t20kdc> That doesn't make sense
L295[17:09:33] <Forec​aster> of course not, but Ubisoft apparently thinks that it does
L296[17:11:43] <ma​ttx> Oh look, they reinvented the wheel!
L297[17:11:53] <Amanda> "surprise mechanics"
L298[17:13:49] <Forec​aster> or the most recent one prior to this, gameplay trailers without gameplay
L299[17:15:41] <pay​onel> amanda are you also seeing an exception about palette color in the logs?
L300[17:16:03] <Amanda> @payonel I didn't think to look, lemme see if the log's still around
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L302[17:16:37] <computernerd> hello
L303[17:18:12] <computernerd> is this Open Computers Mod?
L304[17:18:27] <Forec​aster> yes
L305[17:18:43] <computernerd> im looking for an alternative to computer craft
L306[17:18:45] <Amanda> @payonel not according to the .gz
L307[17:18:52] <computernerd> i found this mod
L308[17:18:58] <pay​onel> hmm, ok that's too bad
L309[17:19:01] <pay​onel> i was hoping it was related 🙂
L310[17:19:11] <pay​onel> computernerd: welcome 🙂
L311[17:19:33] <pay​onel> amanda, izaya: if you can give me a reasonable repro, i'm happy to bisect it
L312[17:19:53] <pay​onel> the better the repro, the happier a dev i am 🙂
L313[17:19:59] <pay​onel> better == smaller
L314[17:20:16] <Forec​aster> give good repro procedures to cause payonel to shrink
L315[17:20:24] <pay​onel> 🙂
L316[17:20:50] <Forec​aster> I don't know why I read it that way but my brain is apparently not working right recently
L317[17:21:13] <Forec​aster> but hey, I managed to add blocking to MichiBot and a pretty file uploader to my form system, so it's not all bad
L318[17:22:08] <computernerd> i like the idea of your mod, but i dont have 1.7.10 forge
L319[17:22:17] <Forec​aster> what
L320[17:22:29] <Forec​aster> what do you mean "don't have"
L321[17:22:33] <Forec​aster> you can download it
L322[17:22:45] <Forec​aster> or use MC 1.10 or 1.12
L323[17:25:51] <computernerd> cool ive got the installer now
L324[17:26:59] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> wew
L325[17:27:13] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> switching Zorya to use VELXs for modules and libraries in rc5
L326[17:27:36] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> this means modules can now have archives
L327[17:28:18] <pay​onel> computernerd: we still support 1.7.10, 1.10, and 1.12
L328[17:28:50] <pay​onel> opencomputers 1.7.5 is built for each, and the next version will be 1.8 -- which also will support 1.7.10, 1.10, and 1.12
L329[17:30:06] <computernerd> i might have got a virus from fake forge, my pc is making weird noises
L330[17:30:39] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> also w e w, can't wait to have an OS in a module in Zor--WAIT
L331[17:30:48] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> Izaya: PsychOS as a Zorya module when
L332[17:31:41] <computernerd> where is the download link?
L333[17:31:59] <Forec​aster> on curseforge
L334[17:32:15] <Amanda> @payonel the test is actually rather simple: https://gitlab.darkdna.net/amanda/oc-fileserver/snippets/96
L335[17:32:47] <Amanda> /oc_spawnComputer ,replacethe APU with a t3 one, load that up, run
L336[17:33:01] <Amanda> ( the APU step may not be nessary )
L337[17:33:04] <Ocawes​ome101> So AdorableCatgirl does Tsuki boot at all yet?
L338[17:33:12] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> also: removing the ability to load modules from `.zy2/mods/<mod>/init.<extension>`
L339[17:33:22] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> nope!
L340[17:33:33] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> because I figured I should work on Zorya a little :)
L341[17:34:07] <Amanda> @payonel the blue square that appears should be light grey (0x888888) the background, bar the top line, should be very-slightly-blue (0x000040) and the top should be black
L342[17:34:15] <Amanda> s/square/rectangle/
L343[17:34:15] <MichiBot> <Amanda> @payonel the blue rectangle that appears should be light grey (0x888888) the background, bar the top line, should be very-slightly-blue (0x000040) and the top should be black
L344[17:35:15] <computernerd> well just googling curse forge i found out something new, curse is an esports company
L345[17:35:37] <pay​onel> computernerd: https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/opencomputers/files
L346[17:36:05] <pay​onel> amanda: btw, /oc_sc is shorthand for that command
L347[17:36:25] <computernerd> is this the download link https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/modpacks/opencomputers-etc
L348[17:36:28] <pay​onel> amanda: so you dont have to run it with t2 AND t3? just t3?
L349[17:36:47] <pay​onel> computernerd: no it is the link i gave you
L350[17:36:58] <Amanda> @payonel nope, The t2->t3 thing was a red hearing in my logic
L351[17:37:10] <pay​onel> so you only need to run that code on t3?
L352[17:37:14] <Amanda> yup
L353[17:37:38] <Vexatos> nice red hearing
L354[17:37:40] <pay​onel> ...
L355[17:38:00] <pay​onel> amanda, izaya: so this was working on t3 in the past? or in 1.7.10?
L356[17:38:13] <pay​onel> can either of you take a screen shot of what it should look like?
L357[17:38:35] <Amanda> gimme a sec, launching my 1.7.10 instance now
L358[17:38:45] <pay​onel> appreciated
L359[17:38:57] <computernerd> its not downloading for some reason
L360[17:39:04] <pay​onel> but i am understanding? that this same code used to work?
L361[17:39:29] <pay​onel> computernerd: what mc version? 1.12.2 ?
L362[17:39:43] <computernerd> yes because i actually have forge for thar
L363[17:39:48] <pay​onel> https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/opencomputers/files/2828357
L364[17:41:04] <computernerd> its downloading now
L365[17:41:23] <Forec​aster> https://i.imgur.com/Efohvvn.jpg
L366[17:43:19] <computernerd> yes i want to keep it
L367[17:47:47] <computernerd> im checking out your mod now
L368[17:50:13] <Amanda> @payonel https://nc.ddna.co/s/eNaESKe9A7zwze2 -- I'm not sure, but I think something may be fucky with the pallet initilisation? The machine that used to run KittenOS NEO is now showing the correct colours, but the fresh machine which never even had an OS installed is showing the wrong colours.
L369[17:50:38] <Amanda> @payonel I included the MMC instance those screenshots are from.
L370[17:51:04] <Amanda> it's a simple 1.7.10 instance with only OC, which I was planning to use for the bisect before the more complex case worked?
L371[17:51:16] <pay​onel> ok thanks
L372[17:51:22] <pay​onel> i'll do my best
L373[17:51:33] <pay​onel> it'll be later
L374[17:53:55] <Amanda> @payonel wait. I see now, the palette's been changed by KOS NEO in the "working" computer
L375[17:54:04] <Amanda> lemme refine the repo
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L377[17:56:07] <pay​onel> i think this all started when everyone started spelling color wrong
L378[17:56:12] <pay​onel> that's probably the root cause
L379[17:56:17] <Amanda> :P
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L381[17:57:39] <Amanda> @payonel yup, the palette's not working correctly in 1.12
L382[17:58:55] <Amanda> @payonel the palette changes don't seem to be sent when they should be. If I reload my SP world, the colours on the same computer that were "wrong" are now right
L383[17:59:19] <pay​onel> oh, is that all it is?
L384[17:59:23] <pay​onel> that's a really good reduction
L385[17:59:24] <Amanda> seems to be
L386[18:02:17] <Amanda> @payonel I updated my test snippet with the code that sets the palette, it's probably still abit complex to showcase the problem, but it's what I used to figure it out
L387[18:02:48] <pay​onel> no that's great. just having code to run is helpful
L388[18:03:10] <pay​onel> so i can i run it, see bug, re-sync the client and the color is fixed, right?
L389[18:03:18] <Amanda> yup
L390[18:03:34] <pay​onel> cool cool. and this doesn't repro in 1.7.10?
L391[18:03:43] <pay​onel> or you dont know
L392[18:03:43] <Amanda> works fine in 1.7.10
L393[18:03:47] <pay​onel> which is fine, i'll test all of them
L394[18:03:47] <pay​onel> ok
L395[18:03:56] <Amanda> ( once I added the colour palette change code )
L396[18:06:42] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L397[18:06:42] <MichiBot> Dad-Sizzle! Compan​ionCube! You beat Ko​dos's previous record of 25 minutes and 33 seconds (By 4 hours, 13 minutes and 2 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L398[18:06:43] <MichiBot> CompanionCube's new record is 4 hours, 38 minutes and 36 seconds! CompanionCube also gained 0.00422 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #3. Need 0.02021 more points to pass Forec​aster!
L399[18:07:30] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> fucking
L400[18:07:30] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> WHAT
L401[18:07:34] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> so
L402[18:07:40] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> ran into a strange bug with luacomp
L403[18:07:45] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> luamin was failing with the error
L404[18:07:53] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> "No such file (``)"
L405[18:07:54] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> so
L406[18:08:01] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> after a bit of playing around
L407[18:08:22] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> (as luacomp internally calls `luamin -f <tmpfile>`)
L408[18:08:38] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> i decided "fuck it, can't hurt to try something dumb"
L409[18:08:54] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> so, i changed it to do `cat <tmpfile> | luamin -c`
L410[18:09:01] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> ...
L411[18:09:13] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> so yeah, that made luacomp -mluamin magically work again
L412[18:09:27] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> what in the everliving name of fuck
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L415[18:21:15] <Sap​hire> Meow
L416[18:21:26] <Sap​hire> Also wondering
L417[18:22:07] <Sap​hire> Would it be at all interesting to make an addon for OC that emulates floppies
L418[18:22:14] <Sap​hire> But on even lower level
L419[18:24:25] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> i wanted to do that
L420[18:31:11] <Amanda> can't floppies be set to unmanaged mode as well?
L421[18:31:21] <Forec​aster> they can
L422[18:43:24] <pay​onel> yep
L423[18:43:37] <pay​onel> and finally, in a recent dev build, i fixed some ui bugs relating to that (mode switch)
L424[18:43:40] <ma​ttx> there is `socfs` on oppm which works on tapes with `tapefs`
L425[18:44:06] <ma​ttx> i dont remember openos exposing unmanaged floppies as devices in /dev so yea, you'd have to write another vfs to throw `socfs` on that
L426[18:45:40] <pay​onel> openos doesn't have any unmanaged device special handling, that is true
L427[18:45:45] <pay​onel> i wasn't trying to say otherwise
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L429[18:46:21] <r_o_m_as> дадова
L430[18:46:34] <Forec​aster> %translate ^
L431[18:46:36] <MichiBot> My Dad's
L432[18:46:47] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> what
L433[18:48:35] <ma​ttx> besides; socfs and tapefs both use some crappy virtual filesystem librar
L434[18:48:37] <ma​ttx> library*
L435[18:48:49] <ma​ttx> which depends on a virtual component library that breaks hotplugging components
L436[18:49:02] <ma​ttx> claerly fs.mount() or something like that exists, ugh
L437[18:49:28] <Amanda> fs.mount didn't always accept a proxy table, I don't think
L438[18:49:36] <Amanda> Pretty sure thta's something payonel added relatively recently
L439[18:49:57] <ma​ttx> I remember seeing it like 2 years ago
L440[18:51:20] <r_o_m_as> \
L441[18:51:26] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> |
L442[18:51:39] <r_o_m_as> /
L443[18:51:50] <Amanda> tapefs was last updated in 2015, @Mattx
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L445[18:52:25] <ma​ttx> ... crap.
L446[18:56:00] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> -
L447[19:30:17] <Brisingr​Aerowing> https://www.theregister.com/2020/01/08/boeing_737_ng_cockpit_screen_blank_bug/
L448[19:30:29] <Brisingr​Aerowing> How...
L449[19:32:13] <Forec​aster> I dislike that Elite doesn't block a button's function if you hold it down to use it as a modifier key :|
L450[19:37:15] <Forec​aster> although strangely they change from activating on key down when the button isn't a modifier, to activating on key up when it is a modifier...
L451[19:42:21] <Lizzy> ARGHH
L452[19:42:36] <Lizzy> which of these fucking lists is adguard using that blocks one of my ip ranges
L453[19:42:39] <Forec​aster> nah it's just a minor annoyance really
L454[19:53:10] <Amanda> @payonel any idea what would cause a `component.internet.request`'s `finishConnect` to return `nil, theURLI'MRequesting`?
L455[19:58:45] <pay​onel> hmm, i dont think it should.....
L456[19:58:55] <pay​onel> if you have a repro, you can log a bug about it
L457[20:03:27] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> haha!
L458[20:03:43] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> i have archives for modules working in Zorya NEO!
L459[20:03:48] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> at least in the buildscript
L460[20:07:07] <Amanda> @payonel I can /msg you a URL that seems to trigger it consistencly for me
L461[20:07:23] <pay​onel> that'd be perect
L462[20:09:07] <Amanda> @payonel never mind, figured it out, it's whenever the server is returning a 404
L463[20:09:30] <pay​onel> hmm...but i still would expect a boolean
L464[20:09:35] <pay​onel> ok, i'll test 404s
L465[20:10:02] <Amanda> @payonel I would as well, and that I'd be able to get the response anyway,and parse the 404's body myself if I wanted to
L466[20:14:29] <pay​onel> aye
L467[20:14:34] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> woohoo
L468[20:14:51] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> about to have no more sweating bricks when editing a zorya config
L469[20:15:50] <Forec​aster> that happened to me too
L470[20:16:08] <Forec​aster> I was unable to figure out how to get the status code when the response resulted in a non 200 response
L471[20:16:51] <Forec​aster> specifically a 500 (internal server error) response I encountered while working on the factory API
L472[20:17:32] <Amanda> @payonel also I think it's not fufilling the contract correctly, because it says it should bethrowing an error, even though it's just returning nil, error (Assuming the url is from a URLNotFound or whatever)
L473[20:18:02] <Amanda> rather, the wiki says it should be throwing an error
L474[20:36:42] <Klea​dron> http://tinyurl.com/ycanlezu
L475[20:38:19] <B​ob> blasphemy
L476[20:38:30] <Sagh​etti> beautiful
L477[20:38:35] <B​ob> impressive MC version tough
L478[20:40:19] <SquidDev> Now to test if that world even opens in later versions,
L479[20:44:19] <Ko​dos> o/
L480[20:47:35] <Sagh​etti> kodos is alive again :O
L481[20:48:02] <Klea​dron> i'm using a different block id than computercraft because this is technically in my own mod, but if the block id was the same it would work
L482[20:48:15] <Klea​dron> the main problem being you can't have a block id higher than 255 in beta 1.7.3
L483[20:48:59] <immibis> does computercraft not have a configurable block ID? All mods from that era should
L484[20:49:20] <Klea​dron> it does
L485[21:03:29] <Klea​dron> i dont know why but the computer rotated
L486[21:03:40] <Forec​aster> it's haunted
L487[21:03:51] <Klea​dron> i don't think it likes what i'm doing
L488[21:05:30] <Forec​aster> you definitely don't want to make the ghosts mad
L489[21:09:17] <Sagh​etti> computer.rotate()
L490[21:09:18] <Sagh​etti> when'
L491[21:11:28] <Klea​dron> go away
L492[21:11:38] <Klea​dron> :GWvertiPeepoChrist:
L493[21:11:51] <Sagh​etti> never
L494[21:17:23] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> http://tinyurl.com/y8xj3yu3
L495[21:17:41] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> :)
L496[21:17:59] <Klea​dron> y
L497[21:18:24] <Klea​dron> actually that's pretty cool
L498[21:28:46] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> ayy
L499[21:28:57] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> OpenOS can now boot, even when Zorya has threads running
L500[21:29:07] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> and it doesn't mess up Zorya, either!
L501[21:29:47] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> ooor not
L502[21:29:51] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> okay then
L503[21:30:25] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> hmm
L504[21:30:29] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> this is odd
L505[21:47:55] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> i'm somehow getting a C stack overflow
L506[21:47:58] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> h m m
L507[21:48:33] <Ocawes​ome101> printers are the absolute god-tier stupidest devices ever created
L508[21:48:39] <Ocawes​ome101> jesus christ
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L510[21:49:46] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> okay
L511[21:49:47] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> so
L512[21:49:53] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> now openos can't mangle Zorya's threads
L513[21:49:55] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> i think
L514[21:50:10] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> YES
L515[21:50:11] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> YES
L516[21:50:12] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> IT WORKS
L517[21:53:50] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> alright
L518[21:54:16] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> now you can use `utils.make_env()` to make a mostly clean enviroment
L519[21:54:20] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> might change it just a little
L520[21:54:22] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> sec
L521[21:56:53] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> hue http://tinyurl.com/yao4bhty
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L523[21:59:19] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> this is dumb and i love it http://tinyurl.com/y8ufnb72
L524[22:00:11] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> http://tinyurl.com/ycsbbv4v
L525[22:05:18] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> http://tinyurl.com/y9jfdao6
L526[22:44:55] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> oh yeah
L527[22:44:58] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> a thing i gotta test
L528[22:50:41] <Klea​dron> damn http://tinyurl.com/ycx6d5k8
L529[22:50:50] <Klea​dron> (i fixed the time system and now worm works)
L530[23:01:17] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> 👀 http://tinyurl.com/y7rjec5c
L531[23:02:45] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> ayyy http://tinyurl.com/y7a58vu5
L532[23:06:52] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> oh shit^2 http://tinyurl.com/yala5eco
L533[23:19:02] <Sagh​etti> you're getting awfully close to that 4k limit
L534[23:19:48] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> http://tinyurl.com/y8wgx84s
L535[23:19:50] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> ayy
L536[23:19:57] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> dropping into recovery mode werks
L537[23:20:24] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> also yea @Saghetti
L538[23:20:27] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> it's fine, trust me
L539[23:20:31] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> :)
L540[23:20:39] <Sagh​etti> 5 bytes left :blobsweat:
L541[23:20:46] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> i have more bytes left now
L542[23:21:07] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> 17, to be exact
L543[23:21:17] <Sagh​etti> why not just abuse eeprom.getData()
L544[23:21:20] <Sagh​etti> also wow, 17 bytes
L545[23:23:23] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> how to system recovery http://tinyurl.com/ybcg8cmf
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L548[23:59:54] <Izaya> dequbed: I guessed it was a holdover from running email on IBM System 360 machines or some such garbage, but I didn't know whether it actually was the standard
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