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L5[01:31:41] <MarkN​stein> How do I clear the `require` cache if I think a file isn't being reloaded after a modification?
L6[01:32:24] <Ocawes​ome101> `package.loaded[“yourlib”] = nil`
L7[01:32:33] <MarkN​stein> Thank you
L8[01:33:03] <The_St​argazer> so i had this big brain idea
L9[01:33:17] <Ocawes​ome101> Not a problem :) I’ve implemented that API at least three times now lol
L10[01:33:22] <Ocawes​ome101> Mhm
L11[01:33:26] <Ocawes​ome101> Go on
L12[01:33:27] <The_St​argazer> i wanted to make an OS, but I didn't want to rewrite all the libs
L13[01:33:28] <The_St​argazer> so I decided: why not use the pre-existing libs as a base?
L14[01:33:45] <The_St​argazer> basically: why reinvent the wheel, when the wheel is already invented?
L15[01:33:52] <Ocawes​ome101> As in, make something that can run OpenOS libs but isn’t OpenOS?
L16[01:33:53] <DaCompu​terNerd> fair idea
L17[01:33:58] <The_St​argazer> yeah
L18[01:34:05] <Ocawes​ome101> Interesting
L19[01:34:09] <The_St​argazer> uses the OpenOS libs
L20[01:34:09] <The_St​argazer> but isn't actually OpenOS
L21[01:34:09] <Ocawes​ome101> To what level?
L22[01:34:14] <The_St​argazer> ?
L23[01:34:32] <The_St​argazer> do you mean like, what programs?
L24[01:34:33] <Ocawes​ome101> Like, everything in /lib, everything in /lib/core ?
L25[01:34:36] <The_St​argazer> oh
L26[01:34:36] <The_St​argazer> yeah
L27[01:34:46] <The_St​argazer> the entire `/lib` and `/boot` (is that a thing?) folder
L28[01:34:55] <Ocawes​ome101> Ah
L29[01:35:01] <Ocawes​ome101> Interesting idea
L30[01:35:08] <ThePi​Guy24> that was kinda the idea behind my os, "OpenOS compatiable, but with less bulk"
L31[01:35:36] <The_St​argazer> also i'll probably torture myself by hacking together a desktop system, idk
L32[01:35:43] <The_St​argazer> if i do make a desktop system i'll call it Y
L33[01:36:03] <The_St​argazer> points to you if you get the joke
L34[01:36:07] <Ocawes​ome101> Proton intends to be partially OpenOS-compatible, but with friendlier user-exposed multitasking and such
L35[01:36:21] <Ocawes​ome101> Y, as in Y am I making this?
L36[01:36:24] <The_St​argazer> no
L37[01:36:26] <The_St​argazer> Y as in
L38[01:36:32] <The_St​argazer> we have an X Window System
L39[01:36:36] <The_St​argazer> so why not a Y Window System?
L40[01:36:36] <Ocawes​ome101> Ah
L41[01:36:38] <Ocawes​ome101> Hahahahahahahha
L42[01:36:59] <Ocawes​ome101> And X, I kid you not, is the successor of the W Window System
L43[01:37:04] <The_St​argazer> shit really?
L44[01:37:08] <Ocawes​ome101> Yep
L45[01:37:13] <The_St​argazer> holy shit
L46[01:37:37] <The_St​argazer> what's next? the Z Window System?
L47[01:37:45] <Ocawes​ome101> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W_Window_System
L48[01:37:47] <Ocawes​ome101> Nah
L49[01:37:49] <Ocawes​ome101> Wayland
L50[01:38:25] <DaCompu​terNerd> so the V OS got the W window system which became the X window system and now the Y window system
L51[01:38:58] <Ocawes​ome101> Basically yes
L52[02:00:19] <Kristo​pher38> Why is everyone making their own OSes
L53[02:00:45] <Kristo​pher38> To be clear, nothing wrong with, I'm just curious
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L55[02:24:24] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> hey, i'm building an OS around Zorya
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L58[02:30:55] <DaCompu​terNerd> Sometimes people have different bootloaders and such to build around, like catgirl's zorya-based one
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L60[02:32:07] <DaCompu​terNerd> Sometimes people want an OS slimmed down and optimized for a given task, like Z0idburg's Trotwood
L61[02:32:38] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> i'm building an OS around Zorya because it means half the work is done
L62[02:32:40] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> :^)
L63[02:33:32] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> i also updated the list of Zorya modules
L64[02:33:33] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> finally
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L66[02:35:16] <DaCompu​terNerd> Lol
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L69[02:38:02] <DaCompu​terNerd> I tend to stick with openos and build what I need on it cuz I'm lazy
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L71[02:43:29] <DaCompu​terNerd> Maybe someday ill make an os, or just find someone else's I like and use that
L72[02:45:53] <DaCompu​terNerd> But right now that sounds like a lot of work
L73[02:52:18] <MarkN​stein> How does one pick up a drone?
L74[02:52:18] <MarkN​stein> Pressing sprint+rclick is just turning it back on
L75[02:54:10] <MarkN​stein> The wiki and in-game book give no hints
L76[02:57:15] <DaCompu​terNerd> With a scrench
L77[02:57:27] <DaCompu​terNerd> Shift right click with a scrench
L78[02:57:55] <MarkN​stein> pERFECT THANKS
L79[03:00:10] <MarkN​stein> Perfect thanks [Edited]
L80[03:03:19] <Izaya> s/cren/cree/
L81[03:03:20] <MichiBot> <DaComputerNerd> Shift right click with a screech
L82[03:03:38] <Izaya> big brain is composing your OS out of modules you wrote for embedded systems
L83[03:10:02] <Ocawes​ome101> I write my own OSes because OpenOS is inscrutable
L84[03:10:53] <Izaya> that's fair, the implementation is rather baroque because of the a) age b) optimisations c) need for it to do everything
L85[03:10:53] <The_St​argazer> why isn't pcall working
L86[03:11:19] <The_St​argazer> i'm testing it with `ok = pcall(require("someInvalidLib"))` and `ok` is nil
L87[03:11:34] <Izaya> try ok, reason
L88[03:11:37] <Izaya> then print reason
L89[03:11:41] <The_St​argazer> oh i see the error
L90[03:11:48] <The_St​argazer> it's `pcall(require, "someInvalidLib")`
L91[03:11:52] <Izaya> yup
L92[03:12:12] <Izaya> require("someinvalidlib") only makes sense if it returns a function rather than a table
L93[03:12:17] <The_St​argazer> ah
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L95[03:16:46] <The_St​argazer> uhhh
L96[03:16:53] <The_St​argazer> why did all my edits just get deleted?
L97[03:17:25] <The_St​argazer> the edited `/lib/core/boot.lua` on the development disk (i'm running on a reg. OpenOS) just got reverted back to normal
L98[03:17:26] <Sagh​etti> you need to turn off file caching iirc
L99[03:17:29] <The_St​argazer> and i even saved it
L100[03:17:33] <Sagh​etti> yeah
L101[03:17:35] <The_St​argazer> i'm using the built-in editor
L102[03:17:39] <The_St​argazer> not an external one
L103[03:17:39] <Sagh​etti> hmm
L104[03:17:52] <The_St​argazer> is it because i'm booting off a floppy and not an HDD?
L105[03:18:13] <Sagh​etti> shouldn't make a difference
L106[03:19:01] <The_St​argazer> ok maybe i just forgot to save?
L107[03:19:01] <The_St​argazer> idk
L108[03:19:09] <The_St​argazer> nah
L109[03:19:10] <The_St​argazer> can't be
L110[03:19:28] <The_St​argazer> even my "fail if no gpu + screen + keyboard" thing got removed and i saved that
L111[03:19:46] <MarkN​stein> Were you writing to the read-only floppy? (Is it RO?)
L112[03:19:47] <The_St​argazer> (it's not designed to be run in the background)
L113[03:19:52] <The_St​argazer> no, it's not RO
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L115[03:21:36] <The_St​argazer> also
L116[03:21:46] <The_St​argazer> apparently if you place a cable when there's more than 1 cable in that slot
L117[03:21:59] <The_St​argazer> the cable item then turns black, and all future cables from that item are black?
L118[03:22:14] <The_St​argazer> only seems to happen in gmc
L119[03:22:48] <The_St​argazer> it dyes itself black
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L121[03:34:52] <Izaya> https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1045 this is interesting
L122[03:40:31] <ThePi​Guy24> lemme guess: your gonna implement that in minitel
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L124[03:41:58] <ThePi​Guy24> %tonk
L125[03:41:58] <MichiBot> Jeepers! ThePi​Guy24! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of 6 hours, 4 minutes and 19 seconds (By 14 minutes and 51 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L126[03:41:59] <MichiBot> ThePiGuy24's new record is 6 hours, 19 minutes and 10 seconds! ThePiGuy24 also gained 0.00175 (0.00025 x 7) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #7. Need 0.05075 more points to pass DaCompu​terNerd!
L127[03:42:03] <The_St​argazer> huh
L128[03:42:08] <The_St​argazer> you can edit the editor with the editor
L129[03:42:13] <ThePi​Guy24> yes
L130[03:42:17] <Ocawes​ome101> yep
L131[03:52:49] <DaCompu​terNerd> I used the editor to edit the editor
L132[03:54:48] <Michiyo> I edited the editor editor with the edited editor
L133[03:55:06] <Michiyo> English++
L134[03:55:36] <Ocawes​ome101> ah, but I edited the edited editor with the editor I edited, then proceeded to edit that edited editor, resulting in an edited edited editor.
L135[03:55:50] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> i'm very proud of this http://tinyurl.com/sl9762l
L136[03:58:20] <DaCompu​terNerd> Nice
L137[04:00:14] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> now
L138[04:00:17] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> i need to make fennec
L139[04:02:15] <DaCompu​terNerd> Is that the os name?
L140[04:05:05] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> yea
L141[04:05:09] <The_St​argazer> how can I remove all decimal places from a number?
L142[04:05:16] <The_St​argazer> e.g. turn `1.2345` into `1`
L143[04:05:25] <Ocawes​ome101> `math.floor` or `math.ceil`
L144[04:05:25] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> floor
L145[04:05:28] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> or
L146[04:05:28] <The_St​argazer> thanks
L147[04:05:30] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> my favorite
L148[04:05:32] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> //1
L149[04:05:36] <The_St​argazer> what's that?
L150[04:05:47] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> basically just a shorthand for floor
L151[04:05:51] <The_St​argazer> ah
L152[04:05:52] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> "integer divide" by 1
L153[04:06:00] <The_St​argazer> ohhh
L154[04:06:06] <Sagh​etti> so truncate all decimals
L155[04:06:10] <ThePi​Guy24> probably minutley slower
L156[04:06:14] <The_St​argazer> so `/` is "double divide"?
L157[04:06:23] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> it's normal divide
L158[04:06:23] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> w/e
L159[04:06:36] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> also i don't think `//1` would be slower?
L160[04:06:37] <ThePi​Guy24> / = regular division, // = integer division
L161[04:06:41] <Sagh​etti> // is divide without decimals
L162[04:06:54] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> because `math.floor` would also have the lookup time
L163[04:06:57] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> imma benchmark it
L164[04:06:58] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> sec
L165[04:07:04] <ThePi​Guy24> so a//b basically = math.floor(a/b)
L166[04:07:15] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> yea
L167[04:07:22] <The_St​argazer> ayy it works http://tinyurl.com/sozoqzk
L168[04:07:38] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> huh?
L169[04:07:44] <The_St​argazer> built-in `free` doesn't have an `-h` arg
L170[04:07:45] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> oh yeah so
L171[04:07:49] <The_St​argazer> so i gave it one
L172[04:07:53] <ThePi​Guy24> nice
L173[04:08:00] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> fennec is gonna load from an initramfs because i can lmao
L174[04:08:03] <Ocawes​ome101> Proton's `free` has a `-h` arg
L175[04:08:12] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> and i can even embed the initramfs into the kernel if i wanted
L176[04:08:16] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> like a fucking madman
L177[04:08:30] <Ocawes​ome101> so when is Tsuki actually gonna work
L178[04:08:37] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> no time soon /e
L179[04:09:02] <ThePi​Guy24> aight sleep time
L180[04:11:07] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> //1 is faster
L181[04:11:43] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> even if math.floor is local, //1 is faster
L182[04:11:50] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> the more you know
L183[04:17:54] <Sagh​etti> what is free -h?
L184[04:19:31] <The_St​argazer> -h is --human
L185[04:19:34] <Ocawes​ome101> displays the amount of free system memory in human-readable form
L186[04:19:34] <The_St​argazer> displays output in KB
L187[04:19:36] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> so, fennec's init is fun
L188[04:19:37] <The_St​argazer> instead of bytes
L189[04:19:49] <Ocawes​ome101> works on Linux too
L190[04:20:05] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> it replaces the LK scheduler with it's own
L191[04:20:14] <Ocawes​ome101> the LK scheduler?
L192[04:21:02] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> litekernel
L193[04:21:18] <Ocawes​ome101> ah
L194[04:21:18] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> thing i made that zorya uses under the hood
L195[04:21:24] <Ocawes​ome101> ah
L196[04:21:46] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> it's moreso a set of libraries and frameworks
L197[04:24:04] <Ocawes​ome101> Izaya: Is the Minitel protocol documented somewhere?
L198[04:24:34] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> yea
L199[04:24:39] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> in the minitel repo
L200[04:24:47] <Ocawes​ome101> oh ok
L201[04:24:50] <Ocawes​ome101> I'll check again
L202[04:28:38] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> its the readme of one of the folders iirc
L203[04:28:45] <Ocawes​ome101> yeah, found it
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L205[04:37:07] <Ocawes​ome101> has anyone ever actually implemented any kind of remote shell (particularly ssh) in OC?
L206[04:38:39] <Izaya> PsychOS supports remote login over Minitel sockets
L207[04:38:46] <Izaya> also hit me up if there's anything lacking in the protocol docs
L208[04:38:55] <Ocawes​ome101> cool, will do
L209[04:39:12] <Ocawes​ome101> I'm not implementing Minitel yet as I have literally no experience with OC networking :P
L210[04:39:25] <Izaya> The daemon should be relatively easy to port
L211[04:39:29] <Ocawes​ome101> instead, I'm implementing my own basic network stack
L212[04:39:34] <Izaya> Compare the OpenOS, PsychOS and KittenOS ones
L213[04:39:43] <Ocawes​ome101> yes, especially considering my fairly-standard APIs
L214[04:39:54] <Izaya> the only major difference is the start function
L215[04:42:41] <Ocawes​ome101> hmm, let's see
L216[04:43:10] <Ocawes​ome101> Proton has a dedicated `config` API, so I could shrink the config saving bits
L217[04:43:27] <Ocawes​ome101> It's got `serialization`
L218[04:43:42] <Ocawes​ome101> It doesn't have `event`, at least not yet
L219[04:43:55] <Izaya> Event isn't strictly required, see the PsychOS daemon
L220[04:44:06] <Ocawes​ome101> I assumed so
L221[04:44:13] <Ocawes​ome101> `computer.pullSignal` will suffice :P
L222[04:44:21] <Ocawes​ome101> the one issue
L223[04:44:22] <Ocawes​ome101> is
L224[04:44:28] <Ocawes​ome101> `component.proxy` is not available
L225[04:44:38] <Ocawes​ome101> in fact, most of the `component` api isn't available
L226[04:44:53] <Ocawes​ome101> so I'd have to make it use my `modem` driver
L227[04:52:45] <Ocawes​ome101> can PsychOS' shell run locally and over Minitel simultaneuosly?
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L234[05:15:54] <Izaya> yeah it supports n users
L235[05:16:00] <Izaya> where n is any integer
L236[05:16:06] <Izaya> you can run multiple displays off one machine also
L237[05:16:16] <Ocawes​ome101> neat
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L239[05:19:05] <Izaya> even wrote a thing to match displays and GPUs to the same tier
L240[05:19:11] <Izaya> which was far more work than it should've been x_x
L241[05:19:17] <Ocawes​ome101> :P
L242[05:19:52] <Izaya> but now if you stick a T2 APU and a T2 GPU in a machine, then hook up a T1 display and a T2 display, you get the T1 display on the T1 GPU every time
L243[05:20:02] <Ocawes​ome101> that's cool
L244[05:20:11] <Izaya> side note, with PsychOS you can get a 2-user machine with a T2 case
L245[05:20:26] <Forec​aster> %sip
L246[05:20:26] <MichiBot> You drink a gloomy moonstone potion (New!). Forec​aster has no memory of drinking a potion.
L247[05:20:32] <Izaya> APU + GPU, still with space for a network card
L248[05:20:33] <Ocawes​ome101> With Open Kernel you can have any number of users
L249[05:20:36] <Ocawes​ome101> just not concurrently
L250[05:20:39] <Izaya> :p
L251[05:20:49] <Izaya> I still want uCs with screens
L252[05:20:57] <Izaya> so I can have dumb terminals that log into beefy PsychOS servers
L253[05:21:13] <Ocawes​ome101> galaxy brain is switching between screens and running it all off one GPU
L254[05:21:19] <Izaya> that's pretty slow tbh
L255[05:21:21] <Ocawes​ome101> just use remote terminals
L256[05:21:28] <Izaya> requires a fair bit of memory too
L257[05:21:28] <Ocawes​ome101> yeah, ik
L258[05:21:31] <Izaya> uuuh
L259[05:21:47] <Ocawes​ome101> or tablets
L260[05:21:54] <Izaya> if you have two remote terminals they'll show the same thing if they're hooked up to the same thingo
L261[05:21:58] <Izaya> tablets are decent though, yeah
L262[05:22:03] <Izaya> wonder how cheap a tablet one could make
L263[05:22:03] <Ocawes​ome101> o yea true
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L265[05:22:17] <Ocawes​ome101> probably pretty cheap
L266[05:22:17] <Ocawes​ome101> probably pretty cheap
L267[05:22:21] <Izaya> I'm thinking maybe uh, T1 CPU, T1 GPU, T1 wireless card, no storage
L268[05:22:23] <Ocawes​ome101> congragulations Discord
L269[05:22:29] <Ocawes​ome101> likely
L270[05:22:38] <Ocawes​ome101> with everything on an EEPROM?
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L272[05:22:56] <Izaya> load PsychOS into the tmpfs, then remount root over MT-RPC
L273[05:23:44] <Izaya> OR
L274[05:23:55] <Izaya> write a dumb terminal firmware in 8KB
L275[05:24:06] <Izaya> and use the card writer to write that to an EEPROM
L276[05:24:12] <Izaya> though you could most likely do it in 4K anyway
L277[05:24:32] <Ocawes​ome101> yeah, I imagine it isn't that complex
L278[05:24:49] <Izaya> VT100 emulator + microtel-3 + microtel-4 + microtel-5-core + microtel-5-open
L279[05:24:57] <Izaya> you're looking at uh, 3KB of dependencies
L280[05:25:17] <Izaya> so if you can implement readline in 1KB you're all g
L281[05:25:43] <Ocawes​ome101> minified, 3kb?
L282[05:25:48] <Izaya> yup
L283[05:25:52] <Ocawes​ome101> ah
L284[05:26:05] <Ocawes​ome101> what is readling?
L285[05:26:10] <Izaya> readline
L286[05:26:13] <Ocawes​ome101> readline*
L287[05:26:13] <Izaya> it reads a line from the terminal
L288[05:26:28] <Ocawes​ome101> reasonable
L289[05:26:49] <Izaya> you'd probably end up registering a listener with microtel's listener function to write to the display
L290[05:27:00] <Izaya> then just loop over send(readline())
L291[05:30:49] <Ocawes​ome101> anyways Proton's networking is coming along
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L293[05:59:09] <Izaya> whatcha got goin
L294[05:59:48] <Ar​iri> The_Stargazer: Will be updating a few mods, including SGcraft :) shortly
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L296[06:06:21] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> Izaya: reminder that you can compress the EEPROM for big savings
L297[06:06:35] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> since you only need to escape a few characters
L298[06:08:46] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> those being \n, \r, \t, \", and \\
L299[06:08:51] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> oh ffs
L300[06:09:24] <Sagh​etti> it's LZSS time
L301[06:09:39] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> anyways
L302[06:10:20] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> I fit 9KiB into 3.5KiB using LZSS
L303[06:10:46] <Sagh​etti> so you could minify and compress using lzss
L304[06:10:56] <Sagh​etti> to get maximum utilization on an EEPROM
L305[06:11:07] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> zorya is mostly minified and compressed
L306[06:11:13] <Sagh​etti> and do something like store the LZSS code inside of the data, and not in the eeprom itself
L307[06:11:20] <Sagh​etti> thereore allowing almost 4kb of storage
L308[06:11:31] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> my tsar implementation kept getting mangled by luamin
L309[06:12:03] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> also you still need code to load and run the decompressor
L310[06:12:16] <Sagh​etti> yeah
L311[06:12:27] <Sagh​etti> something like load(eeprom.getData())()--
L312[06:12:43] <Sagh​etti> and then put the rest of the code after it
L313[06:12:49] <Sagh​etti> data*
L314[06:13:08] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> lol
L315[06:13:22] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> zorya shoves the compressed data into a string
L316[06:13:51] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> like i said, you only need to escape a few characters
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L323[08:10:35] <Forec​aster> %sip
L324[08:10:35] <MichiBot> You drink a solid rainbow potion (New!). Forec​aster feels slightly slower.
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L327[08:27:01] <immibis> Izaya: you can write a network bootloader pretty easily in 4KB. then cheat by having as much code as you need, stored somewhere else
L328[08:27:09] <Izaya> immibis: I know
L329[08:27:20] <Izaya> I have a bootloader that downloads a filesystem into /tmp then boots it like a normal OS
L330[08:27:33] <Izaya> also hi it's been a really long time
L331[08:28:44] <Izaya> Saphire: https://0x0.st/icSi.txt replace .minecraft/ZombieAwareness/features.cfg
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L333[08:29:13] <Stanford> hello guys
L334[08:30:28] <Stanford> duh
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L340[09:30:32] <Inari> https://i.imgur.com/ofsFAzE.png rip economy
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L344[11:25:40] <Izaya> https://social.shadowkat.net/media/d19b52f6d5a75228bae99d4b8ad1bd9ae1d4a6778bfb9e20d6b76d097cc280bf.png
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L347[11:41:20] <Forec​aster> %tonk
L348[11:41:20] <MichiBot> Voldemort! Forec​aster! You beat ThePi​Guy24's previous record of 6 hours, 19 minutes and 10 seconds (By 1 hour, 40 minutes and 11 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L349[11:41:21] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 7 hours, 59 minutes and 21 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.01169 (0.00167 x 7) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #3. Need 0.03191 more points to pass Compan​ionCube!
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L352[12:31:54] <20​kdc> the tonk message that must not be named
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L358[15:09:53] <Ocawes​ome101> %tell asie so when does your fork of OC get a PR into the main mod?
L359[15:09:53] <MichiBot> Ocawes​ome101: asie will be notified of this message when next seen.
L360[15:14:06] <asie> this is a question for payonel
L361[15:16:36] <Ocawes​ome101> Oh
L362[15:16:45] <Ocawes​ome101> You have PRed it?
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L368[15:21:50] <Blue_595> rip
L369[15:22:37] <Ocawes​ome101> Hi
L370[15:22:45] <Blue_595> hi
L371[15:23:09] <Blue_595> Computronics has sound cards and tape drives and... things
L372[15:23:19] <Blue_595> so could someone point me to some music that uses that mod
L373[15:23:50] <Ocawes​ome101> I think you can play any wav file so
L374[15:24:34] <Blue_595> ah
L375[15:24:38] <Blue_595> right
L376[15:25:01] <Blue_595> LionRay
L377[15:26:08] <Blue_595> cant seem to find anything but the source code
L378[15:26:41] <Blue_595> i find a link to a JAR at http://gamax92.pc-logix.com/LionRay.jar but that domain doesnt seem to exist
L379[15:28:03] <Blue_595> another link at https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/93572794/LionRay.jar still doesnt go anywhere
L380[15:28:18] <ThePi​Guy24> http://tinyurl.com/ufyway5
L381[15:28:57] <Blue_595> thanks :)
L382[15:29:02] <ThePi​Guy24> np
L383[15:29:57] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> also @ThePiGuy24 //1 is faster than math.floor
L384[15:30:05] <ThePi​Guy24> neat
L385[15:30:09] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> like, much faster
L386[15:30:19] <ThePi​Guy24> i guess because its not a function call
L387[15:30:22] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> yea
L388[15:30:53] <Ocawes​ome101> Izaya: a buggy FTP protocol and pinging
L389[15:32:45] <Blue_595> i cant think of any music that would be good for a mining session
L390[15:39:24] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> eurobeat
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L393[15:44:31] <dequbed> Blue_595: Neue Deutsche Haerte (e.g. Rammstein), Industrial Noise (Einstuerzende Neubauten), The Beatles.
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L395[15:47:03] <kdcLab01> Testing, testing, is this on?
L396[15:47:13] <dequbed> No
L397[15:47:18] <Ocawes​ome101> Yes
L398[15:47:20] <Skye> !
L399[15:47:38] <Skye> wai5
L400[15:47:46] <Skye> !pink kdcLab01
L401[15:47:49] <Skye> !ping kdcLab01
L402[15:47:53] <Skye> %ping kdcLab01
L403[15:47:54] <MichiBot> Ping reply from kdcL​ab01 1.14s
L404[15:48:07] <Inari> Elfi: https://imgur.com/EDjb1rI
L405[15:48:59] <Izaya> Ocawesome101: ???
L406[15:49:03] <kdcLab01> Yeah, the ping's a bit high, but hey, the TCP implementation appears to be holding up.
L407[15:49:30] <Elfi> :O
L408[15:49:31] <Elfi> it me
L409[15:49:38] * Elfi wiggles feathery antennae c:
L410[15:50:10] <Izaya> Ocawesome101: I don't understand
L411[15:50:32] <kdcLab01> Izaya, dequbed, you know that, er... *hypothetical* IPv6 idea?
L412[15:50:42] <Izaya> Not so hypothetical?
L413[15:50:47] <kdcLab01> Correct.
L414[15:50:49] <Izaya> %ping
L415[15:50:52] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Iz​aya 2.59s
L416[15:50:57] <Inari> IPv14
L417[15:51:00] <Izaya> ^ real TCP instance
L418[15:51:06] <Skye> %ping
L419[15:51:07] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Sk​ye 0.61s
L420[15:51:08] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Sk​ye 0.44s
L421[15:51:12] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> %ping
L422[15:51:17] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> :(
L423[15:51:25] <Skye> @AdorableCatgirl get onto irc
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L425[15:51:29] <Inari> But
L426[15:51:32] <Izaya> >2020
L427[15:51:32] <Skye> %ping Inari
L428[15:51:33] <Inari> Does it support IPv1
L429[15:51:33] <MichiBot> Ping reply from In​ari 0.16s
L430[15:51:34] <Izaya> >not being on IRC
L431[15:51:35] <AdorableCatgirl> %ping
L432[15:51:40] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Adorabl​eCatgirl 4.66s
L433[15:51:43] <AdorableCatgirl> YIKES
L434[15:51:47] <Skye> hey
L435[15:51:50] <Izaya> nice
L436[15:51:52] <Skye> remember when I was in scotland
L437[15:51:57] <Skye> and I had pings of ovewr a minute
L438[15:51:58] <AdorableCatgirl> i'm in the US of A
L439[15:52:01] <kdcLab01> Well, I'm happy to see that I have better ping than some out-of-OC TCP implementations.
L440[15:52:10] <AdorableCatgirl> hey
L441[15:52:14] <AdorableCatgirl> just you wait
L442[15:52:16] <AmandaC> %ping
L443[15:52:17] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Ama​ndaC 0.7s
L444[15:52:19] <kdcLab01> Makes me feel better about how slow this implementation is.
L445[15:52:20] <AdorableCatgirl> i'm gonna make discount IP in OC
L446[15:52:23] <Inari> I need an RFc viewe
L447[15:52:24] <Inari> r
L448[15:52:39] <Skye> AdorableCatgirl, who needs discount when you have the full thing
L449[15:52:39] <AmandaC> Inari: ... they're just plain-text, though?
L450[15:52:46] <AdorableCatgirl> Skye: me
L451[15:52:59] <Inari> AmandaC: But they're usually laid out in "pages"
L452[15:53:03] <Inari> And I want to view one page at a time
L453[15:53:05] <Izaya> Skye: where's the fun in real IP
L454[15:53:08] <Izaya> tbh
L455[15:53:08] <kdcLab01> The best part is, I have spare CPU to run a Light Board
L456[15:53:14] <kdcLab01> just... because
L457[15:53:16] <AdorableCatgirl> i make cursed things
L458[15:53:26] <Skye> is IPv6 not cursed enough
L459[15:53:29] <Skye> TCP is bad
L460[15:53:29] <AdorableCatgirl> now time to make a CPU arch or five for OC
L461[15:53:39] <Izaya> %addquote Skye TCP is bad
L462[15:53:45] <Izaya> %quote add Skye TCP is bad
L463[15:53:46] <MichiBot> Iz​aya: Quote added at id: 204
L464[15:53:52] <Izaya> one of these will work surely
L465[15:53:54] <AdorableCatgirl> well
L466[15:53:59] <AdorableCatgirl> everything i make is hot garbage
L467[15:54:00] <Skye> %quote
L468[15:54:01] <MichiBot> Quote #171: <Tan​gent> ./Fox --develop
L469[15:54:04] <Skye> %quote Skye
L470[15:54:05] <MichiBot> Quote #117: <Sk​ye> I ripped them by using them
L471[15:54:09] <Skye> %quote Skye
L472[15:54:10] <MichiBot> Quote #38: <Sk​ye> %addquote vifino %addquote Skye %addquote vifino %addquote Lizzy %quote Lizz
L473[15:54:14] <Skye> pp[s
L474[15:54:17] <Skye> %quote Skye
L475[15:54:17] <MichiBot> Quote #46: <Sk​ye> Is it narcissistic if I %addquote myself?
L476[15:54:23] <kdcLab01> %addquote Skye %quote Skye
L477[15:54:37] <Forec​aster> skye what have you done
L478[15:54:40] <Skye> might be %quote add
L479[15:54:48] <Inari> %quote
L480[15:54:48] <MichiBot> Quote #35: <Sk​ye> %addquote vifino %addquote Lizzy %quote Lizzy
L481[15:54:54] <Inari> 🤔
L482[15:55:06] <Skye> %quote add Forecaster skye what have you done
L483[15:55:06] <MichiBot> Sk​ye: Quote added at id: 205
L484[15:55:14] <Inari> %sip
L485[15:55:14] <MichiBot> You drink a mutable titanium potion (New!). Inari turns into a citrus bear until they say the word "Mew".
L486[15:55:21] <Inari> Nice
L487[15:55:36] <Skye> %quote Inari
L488[15:55:36] <MichiBot> Quote #28: <In​ari> wokrs ownderuflly!
L489[15:55:52] <AmandaC> %quote AmandaC
L490[15:55:52] <MichiBot> Quote #132: <Ama​ndaC> ZOMG U R TEH ILLEGAL! SUED U
L491[15:55:54] *** AmandaC is now known as Amanda
L492[15:56:00] <AdorableCatgirl> so
L493[15:56:06] <Inari> so
L494[15:56:12] <AdorableCatgirl> SO
L495[15:56:17] <Sagh​etti> %quote Saghetti
L496[15:56:18] <MichiBot> Sagh​​etti: No quotes found for name 'Sagh​etti'
L497[15:56:19] <Inari> So there you were
L498[15:56:26] <Skye> %quote skyem
L499[15:56:26] <MichiBot> Sk​ye: No quotes found for name 'sk​yem'
L500[15:56:27] <Inari> Reminds me of a bash quote
L501[15:56:28] <Skye> %quote skyem123
L502[15:56:28] <MichiBot> Sk​ye: No quotes found for name 'skye​m123'
L503[15:56:38] <AdorableCatgirl> OH
L504[15:56:51] <AdorableCatgirl> UNICORN'S JAVA BINDING HAS A TIMEOUT ARGUMENT
L505[15:57:05] <Inari> Sadly I can't link that
L506[15:57:18] <Inari> So y'all have to imagine it
L507[15:57:23] <AdorableCatgirl> public native void emu_start(long begin, long until, long timeout, long count) throws UnicornException;
L508[15:57:27] <AdorableCatgirl> HELL YEAH
L509[15:57:42] <Izaya> kdcLab01: how memory-heavy is it?
L510[15:57:50] <kdcLab01> Izaya: Not a clue!
L511[15:57:51] <AdorableCatgirl> i'm so glad i don't say half the shit here that i say elsewhere, it's very quotable
L512[15:57:59] <AdorableCatgirl> Izaya knows some of the things I say
L513[15:58:01] <Izaya> fire that up in ocvm, use the profiling tools \o/
L514[15:58:08] <Amanda> AdorableCatgirl: .. unicorn, as in the hacky way Ruby ( or was it Python? ) gets around the GIL?
L515[15:58:17] <AdorableCatgirl> no
L516[15:58:31] <AdorableCatgirl> https://github.com/unicorn-engine/unicorn
L517[15:58:38] <AdorableCatgirl> CPU emulator
L518[15:58:41] <kdcLab01> Izaya: I'm too busy
L519[15:58:50] <Izaya> > I'm too busy
L520[15:58:51] <kdcLab01> Izaya: ...trying to work out how to make it non-awful internally
L521[15:58:57] <Izaya> > implemting IPv6 in OC
L522[15:59:07] <Izaya> AdorableCatgirl: I hope you don't say that stuff in public at all tbh, people don't like that sort of stuff
L523[15:59:14] <AdorableCatgirl> okay chems
L524[15:59:23] <Izaya> hey
L525[15:59:24] <AdorableCatgirl> Izaya: not in *public*
L526[15:59:26] <Izaya> I don't mind
L527[15:59:27] <Izaya> I'm just saying
L528[15:59:32] <Izaya> :p
L529[15:59:41] <Izaya> https://social.shadowkat.net/media/d19b52f6d5a75228bae99d4b8ad1bd9ae1d4a6778bfb9e20d6b76d097cc280bf.png
L530[15:59:42] <AdorableCatgirl> also i was joking about implemting
L531[15:59:53] <Skye> kdcLab01, when will you publish it? :p
L532[16:00:12] <kdcLab01> Skye: After I deal with the fact the internals are hardcoded to only connect to EsperNet
L533[16:00:24] <AdorableCatgirl> anyways, Izaya
L534[16:00:29] <AdorableCatgirl> i don't say it in *public*
L535[16:00:37] <AdorableCatgirl> i just say it around my friends
L536[16:01:06] <AdorableCatgirl> or in a CSGO lobby where we're all shittalking eachother because we're silver 1
L537[16:01:13] <kdcLab01> Skye: Though, to be clear, the actual core stuff is already public
L538[16:01:28] <AdorableCatgirl> "i used to be SEM"
L539[16:01:31] <kdcLab01> Skye: It's just the Internet Card Emulation that needs fixing before publishing
L540[16:01:43] <Skye> this is wonderfully cursed
L541[16:01:44] <AdorableCatgirl> "yea well i used to be GN2
L542[16:02:19] <AdorableCatgirl> "yeah right, you missed more shots than hellen keller on a caffine trip"
L543[16:02:27] <AdorableCatgirl> "well you gave em a lead outline, asshole"
L544[16:02:40] <AdorableCatgirl> AND THEN THERE'S MY STEAM PROFILE QUOTES
L545[16:02:41] <AdorableCatgirl> DEAR LORD
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L550[16:06:38] <Forec​aster> you should ease up on the caps, you might sprain your shift key
L551[16:07:13] <AdorableCatgirl> good thing i use the caps key
L552[16:07:16] <AdorableCatgirl> because i'm lazy
L553[16:08:26] <Amanda> You don't have the capslock as another control? Lol nub.
L554[16:14:47] <Izaya> I'm so confused
L555[16:16:03] <Izaya> 02:30 <~Ocawes​ome101> Izaya: a buggy FTP protocol and pinging
L556[16:16:06] <Izaya> what did he mean by this
L557[16:19:41] <Forec​aster> %sip
L558[16:19:42] <MichiBot> You drink a gloopy sky potion (New!). When Forec​aster drinks the last drop, a bucket of water materializes above their head and dumps it contents over them, then vanishes. The water does not.
L559[16:19:52] <Forec​aster> agh
L560[16:20:05] <gamax92> nice
L561[16:20:07] <Forec​aster> I should make that a saving throw
L562[16:20:51] <Elfi> %quaff mutable grathnode potion
L563[16:20:51] <MichiBot> (New!) Elfi turns into a cat boy until they exit the room.
L564[16:20:55] <Elfi> ' -'
L565[16:21:01] * Elfi exit stage left
L566[16:21:09] <Forec​aster> get some antidote
L567[16:21:27] <Forec​aster> and by get I mean drink
L568[16:23:14] <Elfi> %quaff antidote
L569[16:23:15] <MichiBot> Elfi reverts to their original state before drinking any potions.
L570[16:23:18] <Elfi> :O
L571[16:23:20] <Elfi> nice.
L572[16:24:28] <20​kdc> %quaff mutable grathnode potion
L573[16:24:29] <MichiBot> 20​kdc turns into a cat boy until they exit the room.
L574[16:24:52] <Elfi> \o/
L575[16:25:32] <kdcLab01> Performed that on the Discord side, so it's going to stick for a very, very long time.
L576[16:27:12] <Forec​aster> %sip mutable tiberium potion
L577[16:27:12] <MichiBot> (New!) Forec​aster turns into an aluminium water boy for 8 moons.
L578[16:27:18] <Forec​aster> Huh
L579[16:27:42] <kdcLab01> "mutable tiberium"? That sounds a bit dangerous.
L580[16:29:25] <Forec​aster> Tiberium definitely isn't dangerous enough on its own :P
L581[16:29:49] <kdcLab01> Forecaster: You... er... are being sarcastic, right?
L582[16:30:08] <Forec​aster> Noooo not at all
L583[16:30:37] <kdcLab01> ...
L584[16:30:54] <kdcLab01> Okay! Well, Tiberium is generally described as having rather harmful effects on humans.
L585[16:31:57] <Forec​aster> They were probably handling it wrong :P
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L588[16:36:59] <Galaxy> aeugh
L589[16:38:26] <Ocawes​ome101> Izaya: I thought you were asking what I'd gotten done on Proton's networking :P
L590[16:38:46] <Izaya> ohhhh
L591[16:40:00] <Inari> I need a browser function that lest me select a bunch of links and opent hem in new discarded tabs
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L595[16:49:28] <Forec​aster> what's a discarded tab
L596[16:57:18] <AdorableCatgirl> u w u
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L598[17:01:19] <Inari> A tab thats there but won't load till you click it. So you have the tabs open, but don't load 50000 images at once
L599[17:03:31] <Forec​aster> oh, so an unloaded tab
L600[17:03:35] <Forec​aster> :P
L601[17:13:28] <Inari> :p
L602[17:13:36] <Inari> My browsers and extensions seemed to call them discarded
L603[17:14:03] <Forec​aster> weird
L604[17:15:33] <Inari> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Add-ons/WebExtensions/API/tabs/discard
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L609[18:13:03] <Ocawes​ome101> disabling all of Proton's background services improves startup time by exactly a tenth of a second
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L612[18:15:49] <Webchat396> %seen Kodos
L613[18:15:49] <MichiBot> Kodos was last seen 55d 16h 35m 53s ago. Saying: <Ko​dos> %tonk
L614[18:15:57] <Webchat396> Welp
L615[18:16:01] <Webchat396> Did he die?
L616[18:16:53] <B​ob> 👀
L617[18:17:56] <Webchat396> "Kodos is not registered" >.>
L618[18:18:40] <M​GR> He's on Discord
L619[18:19:05] <M​GR> Why do you ask for him?
L620[18:19:50] <Webchat396> Just been looking for him to ask about Industrial Dyes and K-Matter
L621[18:21:02] <Webchat396> Someone told me I could find him here
L622[18:21:21] <Webchat396> But it looks like that might be old info
L623[18:21:48] <Ocawes​ome101> @Kodos you have been summoned
L624[18:24:09] <Webchat396> Yeah that's been my experience, too
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L626[18:25:29] <Webchat396> Admittedly, I've been stalking him for a week orso, and I may have potentially found RL info for him by accident
L627[18:25:44] <M​GR> I don't think he's still developing those mods, but I could easily be wrong
L628[18:25:44] <Webchat396> But it's not terribly important enough to warrant trying
L629[18:25:57] <Webchat396> I'm more interested in the license for them
L630[18:25:59] <Inari> It's immibi-s :o
L631[18:26:20] <M​GR> There's no license posted online?
L632[18:26:36] <Webchat396> Not sure tbh, I couldn't find source
L633[18:26:47] <M​GR> ¯\(ツ)/¯
L634[18:26:50] <Inari> %quote Kodos
L635[18:26:51] <MichiBot> Quote #196: <Ko​dos> Minecraft: The only game in which you can make a literal working computer, slay a dragon, and murder a chicken with a stick.
L636[18:27:12] <Webchat396> Ha
L637[18:27:12] <Inari> Lets take his markov as a response to his license
L638[18:27:15] <Inari> ~markov Kodos
L639[18:27:22] <Inari> Hm
L640[18:27:24] <Forec​aster> the licenses are listed on the curse pages
L641[18:27:27] <Inari> Did that die?
L642[18:28:08] <Webchat396> Forecaster: Do you know what license he uses off the top of your head
L643[18:28:27] <Inari> @Forecaster is that the license for the mod as provided on CF though, or for the source?
L644[18:28:56] <Webchat396> I basically just want to update them on his behalf, and credit him as original author\
L645[18:29:12] <Forec​aster> Industrial Dyes is GNU General Public License
L646[18:29:21] <Webchat396> Fantastic
L647[18:29:31] <Forec​aster> on CurseForge
L648[18:30:05] <Webchat396> Wait, GPL is the one that means I can update it without seeking permission, so long as proper credit is given, right?
L649[18:30:43] <Inari> I'd still say it's unclear if thats the license of the sourcecode
L650[18:31:03] <Forec​aster> probably not
L651[18:31:05] <Inari> (Is there even sourcecode?)
L652[18:31:29] <Inari> Ah, there is
L653[18:31:31] <Forec​aster> ```
L654[18:31:31] <Forec​aster> The GNU General Public License is a free, copyleft license for software and other kinds of works.
L655[18:31:31] <Forec​aster> ```
L656[18:33:23] <Ocawes​ome101> how do I perform a ping over TCP? I've tried searching and can only find people using things like `tcping.exe`, no actual tutorials
L657[18:33:32] <Inari> Webchat396: You may have luck on reddit
L658[18:33:38] <Inari> https://www.reddit.com/user/MyNameIsKodos/
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L661[18:42:14] <Webchat836> Thanks Inari. I'll try that
L662[18:44:23] <Webchat836> Seems that's his GitHub, too. Just found source for both mods, along with a ton of other repos
L663[18:44:25] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> i have decided to make a language that compiles to lua
L664[18:44:27] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> 🦀
L665[18:45:09] <Webchat836> Also looks like his Discord account is either disabled or deleted. Can't tell which
L666[18:47:39] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> holy fuck
L667[18:47:51] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> my county's public schools are closed for the rest of the school year
L668[18:47:52] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> WOT
L669[18:47:54] <Webchat836> This looks neat, but what the fuck is OpenPrinter
L670[18:47:56] <Webchat836> https://github.com/MyNameIsKodos/OpenComputers-Programs/blob/master/utils/complaint.lua
L671[18:48:08] <Michiyo> OpenPrinter is my mod, that adds....
L672[18:48:09] <Michiyo> printers.
L673[18:48:39] <Webchat836> Holy shit OC has printers?
L674[18:48:46] <Michiyo> OpenPrinter has printers.
L675[18:48:48] <Webchat836> I've used this mod for years...
L676[18:48:56] <Webchat836> Right, you know what I mean though
L677[18:49:21] <B​ob> doesn't OC have a 3d Printer already ?
L678[18:49:32] <Ocawes​ome101> not a paper printer
L679[18:49:35] <Webchat836> Yeah, but not like paper printers which are infinitely more useful
L680[18:49:37] <B​ob> ah yes
L681[18:49:41] <B​ob> of course
L682[18:49:52] <Webchat836> Not that the 3D printer isn't cool
L683[18:49:52] <M​GR> His discord is working fine, but you may not share a server, and Discord will usually block messages then
L684[18:50:28] <B​ob> just make a tablet the paper
L685[18:50:33] <B​ob> and the assembler the print
L686[18:50:33] <Webchat836> Oh my fucking god.... I just found OpenSecurity....\
L687[18:50:37] <B​ob> lol
L688[18:50:38] <B​ob> its a gem
L689[18:50:43] <ThePi​Guy24> i wish the printers used a fixed width font :p
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L691[18:50:59] <AmandaC> @Ocawesome101 that's because pings aren't done using TCP usually, but through ICMP
L692[18:51:05] <Galaxy> ayy i got polari working by reinstalling linux
L693[18:51:08] <Ocawes​ome101> ik
L694[18:51:17] <Ocawes​ome101> but how do I do it through TCP, for example from OC?
L695[18:51:22] <Galaxy> a r c h b t w
L696[18:52:29] <AmandaC> I assume by sending a packet and timing how long the ACK takes, which you probably can't do with OC alone
L697[18:52:54] <Ocawes​ome101> the what now
L698[18:53:12] <AmandaC> Acknologement packet
L699[18:53:16] <Ocawes​ome101> ah
L700[18:53:22] <AmandaC> an implementation detail of the protocol
L701[18:53:40] <Elfi> arch has become such a meme
L702[18:53:51] <Michiyo> OpenSecurity is another of my mods :p
L703[18:53:54] <Elfi> ...and to my embarrassment I use arch too ;;
L704[18:53:59] <Michiyo> As is OpenFM, OpenLights, and... something else
L705[18:54:09] <Forec​aster> OpenSesame
L706[18:54:15] <Ocawes​ome101> lel
L707[18:54:17] <Skye> AmandaC, well @20kdc might soon change that
L708[18:54:37] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> sorry it wasn't just the county
L709[18:54:48] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> it was the entire fuckin state
L710[18:54:55] <Galaxy> i personally love arch
L711[18:55:10] <Michiyo> Schools here are closed until May? I think
L712[18:55:17] <immibis> ... the OpenComputers cursor is implemented in software? O.o
L713[18:55:20] <Michiyo> We just got issued Stay at Home orders.. >_>
L714[18:55:46] <immibis> the blinking cursor, I mean
L715[18:55:46] <Ocawes​ome101> immibis: yes
L716[18:55:58] <Forec​aster> you mean in OpenOs?
L717[18:56:00] <Forec​aster> yes
L718[18:56:02] <Ocawes​ome101> the entire term API is implemented by OpenOS
L719[18:56:18] <AmandaC> immibis: makes sense when you consider you can write to any point of the screen at any time with the GPU component
L720[18:56:39] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> huh
L721[18:56:45] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> lemme check shit for my state
L722[18:56:49] <immibis> AmandaC: I think ComputerCraft had a specific screen function for the cursor blink. something along the lines of setCursorPos(x, y); setCursorBlinkRate(rate)
L723[18:57:02] <immibis> which makes more sense for optimization
L724[18:57:02] <Ocawes​ome101> that is correct
L725[18:57:08] <AmandaC> immibis: yeah, but OC jus has gpu.write(x, y, str)
L726[18:57:17] <AmandaC> s/write/set/
L727[18:57:17] <MichiBot> <AmandaC> immibis: yeah, but OC jus has gpu.set(x, y, str)
L728[18:57:18] <Ocawes​ome101> gpu.set*
L729[18:57:23] <Galaxy> i just got news no more school for like the rest of the year
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L731[19:00:04] <Elfi> That seems to be what's going on in a lot of the world
L732[19:00:17] <Elfi> I think most colleges and universities are sticking to online instruction, at least
L733[19:00:39] <Forec​aster> I'm on forced vacation from tomorrow because there's too little to do at work at the moment
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L736[19:03:48] <Vexaton> my entire university closed down
L737[19:04:08] <Vexaton> every chemist doing their master's thesis is screwed because the laboratories closed
L738[19:04:21] <Vexaton> ...except for me because I am doing a purely theoretical thesis
L739[19:04:33] <Forec​aster> they'll just have to make meth at home
L740[19:04:37] <Vexaton> so I'm doing it from home now, it's really annoying
L741[19:05:13] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> anyways
L742[19:05:15] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> 🦀
L743[19:07:03] <20​kdc> @Ocawesome101 For general use regarding TCP pinging, you'll need to check if the protocol you're using has a way of causing the server to send back data.
L744[19:07:23] <20​kdc> (That is, whatever protocol you're using on top of TCP.)
L745[19:07:31] <Ocawes​ome101> mhm
L746[19:07:44] <Ocawes​ome101> in this case, the OC internet card
L747[19:07:51] <20​kdc> ...no,
L748[19:07:53] <20​kdc> that's the wrong direction.
L749[19:08:14] <Ocawes​ome101> i mean, that's what I'd be using to perform the ping
L750[19:08:26] <AmandaC> That's not a protocol ontop of TCP
L751[19:08:59] <AmandaC> A protocol ontop of TCP is, eg, HTTP, IRC, etc
L752[19:09:21] <Ocawes​ome101> ah
L753[19:09:36] <Ocawes​ome101> there's no way to do it directly with TCP?
L754[19:10:00] <AmandaC> not without crafting and receiving raw TCP implementatino packets
L755[19:11:04] <AmandaC> ( Which OC does not, and never will, let you do directly )
L756[19:11:43] <Ocawes​ome101> ah ok
L757[19:12:06] <immibis> technically, raw ICMP packets.
L758[19:12:23] <immibis> ping is not TCP. (they wanted to call it "pint" but they got shut down by the committee for stupid acronyms)
L759[19:12:37] <DaCompu​terNerd> here's a question
L760[19:13:22] <20​kdc> @Ocawesome101 Actually, you can perform a ping using TCP! What you have to do is this: Make a connection on a port you know will trigger a Connection Refused message at the target.
L761[19:13:34] <20​kdc> Then call read until the error comes in.
L762[19:13:56] <DaCompu​terNerd> if you take in the command line arguments using {...}, are the elements of it all strings, or are they whatever type they fit in?
L763[19:13:56] <DaCompu​terNerd> in other words, if I run `foo 10 true 3.4` does {...} contain {10, true, 3.4} or {"10", "true", "3.4"}?
L764[19:14:36] <Ocawes​ome101> If you're running it from most shells, it'll be the latter
L765[19:14:56] <Ocawes​ome101> if you `loadfile("foo")(10, true, 3, 4)` then it'll be the former
L766[19:15:16] *** Vexaton is now known as Vexatos
L767[19:17:18] <DaCompu​terNerd> i assume openos's is included in "most shells"
L768[19:17:25] <Ocawes​ome101> yes
L769[19:17:32] <Ocawes​ome101> OpenOS, Open Kernel, Proton, etc
L770[19:18:00] <Ocawes​ome101> %tonk if this fails I will be mad
L771[19:18:00] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Ocawesome101, you were not able to beat Forecaster's record of 7 hours, 59 minutes and 21 seconds this time. 7 hours, 36 minutes and 40 seconds were wasted! Missed by 22 minutes and 41 seconds!
L772[19:18:18] <Corded> * <Ocawes​ome101> screams
L773[19:18:38] <DaCompu​terNerd> man, now ill be asleep by the time it comes around again
L774[19:18:41] <DaCompu​terNerd> again
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L776[19:22:46] <Ocawes​ome101> is there still no OC addon that adds pixel-based screens?
L777[19:24:01] <20​kdc> With the correct use of Braille-block character cells, you can get pretty close to pixel-based.
L778[19:24:44] <Vexatos> I mean the Computronics light board has pixels
L779[19:25:20] <Vexatos> it's only 24x3 in resolution though
L780[19:25:44] <Vexatos> or was it 12x3?
L781[19:26:12] <20​kdc> I thought it was 4x4 in resolution, 24-bit in colour depth.
L782[19:26:19] <20​kdc> And that's with 4 of them.
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L784[19:28:15] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> @Ocawesome101 bet
L785[19:28:18] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> i'm workin on one
L786[19:28:27] <Ocawes​ome101> sweeeeeeet
L787[19:28:31] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> but everything is based on tiles sooo
L788[19:28:37] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> keep that in mind
L789[19:28:46] <Ocawes​ome101> please elaborate
L790[19:28:49] <20​kdc> Vexatos: https://20kdc.duckdns.org/2020-03-23_16.38.55.png Are you talking about the devices shown with the red lights?
L791[19:28:51] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> so
L792[19:28:56] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> T1, T2, and T3
L793[19:29:43] <Ocawes​ome101> mhm
L794[19:30:13] <immibis> is there any way to automatically associate screens and keyboards?
L795[19:30:27] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> T1 is monochrome 128x128 with 8x8 "tiles" you can use to make pictures
L796[19:30:44] <Ocawes​ome101> so you have to set entire tiles at once? that doesn't seem to bad
L797[19:30:47] <Ocawes​ome101> too*
L798[19:30:56] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> well you only have so many tiles
L799[19:31:40] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> T2 has 16-color tiles, 256x256 max. tiles are still 8x8.
L800[19:31:50] <Ocawes​ome101> mhm
L801[19:31:55] <Vexatos> @20kdc yes, you can scrench them to change their pixel layout
L802[19:32:25] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> T3 has 15-bit color + 1 bit alpha, with support for "sprites". might do 512x512
L803[19:32:36] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> still 8x8 tiles, tho each tier can have more and more tiles
L804[19:32:42] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> depending on the RAM you use
L805[19:32:52] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> i also wanna make vector displays
L806[19:33:20] <Ocawes​ome101> nice
L807[19:33:22] <Ocawes​ome101> that'd be cool
L808[19:33:39] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> where T1 is monochrome, the color being set with dye when you craft it
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L810[19:34:03] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> T2 is 8 color
L811[19:34:57] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> and T3 is just rgb32f
L812[19:34:57] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L813[19:34:57] <MichiBot> I'm sorry CompanionCube, you were not able to beat Forecaster's record of 7 hours, 59 minutes and 21 seconds this time. 16 minutes and 57 seconds were wasted! Missed by 7 hours, 42 minutes and 24 seconds!
L814[19:36:33] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> anything from 0 to 1 for red, blue, and green
L815[19:36:39] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> Those screens sound cool.
L816[19:37:00] <Gal​axy> what is tonk
L817[19:37:06] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> and you give it a list of instructions which are either laser on, laser off, or move to position
L818[19:37:15] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> after a number of instructions, the screen starts to dim
L819[19:38:21] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> i also kinda wanna add like
L820[19:38:45] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> cartridges, which can contain ROM, RAM, and maybe a select number of upgrades
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L822[19:39:38] <Galaxy> [default dance emoji]
L823[19:40:03] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> man
L824[19:40:06] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> i should get to work on OSSM
L825[19:48:48] <20​kdc> Vexatos: It's apparently 12 for each device, and then one can have 4 of them per rack.
L826[19:49:05] <Forec​aster> %tonkout
L827[19:49:06] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Forec​aster, you were not able to beat Forec​aster's record of 7 hours, 59 minutes and 21 seconds this time. 14 minutes and 8 seconds were wasted! Missed by 7 hours, 45 minutes and 12 seconds!
L828[19:49:14] <Forec​aster> Oh
L829[19:49:30] <Forec​aster> Blarg
L830[19:49:35] <Forec​aster> %sip
L831[19:49:35] <MichiBot> You drink a soft yellow potion (New!). The bottle turns into a copper dagger.
L832[19:49:53] <Corded> * <Forec​aster> commits copper seppuku
L833[19:56:58] <MarkN​stein> Two questions: What is a Cycle in a table?
L834[19:56:58] <MarkN​stein> If I serialize a table with functions, does the deserialized table retain the functions?
L835[19:57:34] <Ocawes​ome101> 1. Probably when a table contains itself
L836[19:57:36] <Ocawes​ome101> 2: No
L837[20:03:07] <B​ob> you can't serialize functions until you have their bytecode or the initial string
L838[20:08:33] <AmandaC> and bytecode loading is disabled by default in OC, becasue it can easily break sandboxes
L839[20:10:24] <MarkN​stein> Yeah I don't think I need to go that route. I'm probably just being paranoid about how much I can fit on a EEPROM
L840[20:14:04] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> wut
L841[20:15:04] <MarkN​stein> Was gonna store a punch of data in table (plus some helper functions) on a server and transmit it to a drone, but I can probably store it direct on the EEPROM.
L842[20:15:20] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> you can also compress data
L843[20:15:32] <MarkN​stein> True
L844[20:15:37] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> using LZSS
L845[20:16:10] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> the loader of my bootloader goes from 9.9k to 3.8k
L846[20:16:13] <MarkN​stein> Was gonna store a bunch of data in table (plus some helper functions) on a server and transmit it to a drone, but I can probably store it direct on the EEPROM. [Edited]
L847[20:16:29] <Sagh​etti> lzss master race
L848[20:16:59] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> and lua also should compress p well
L849[20:20:57] <MarkN​stein> `flash` doesn't do any compression/compilation right? Just stores the text as written and it gets interpreted as normal?
L850[20:21:39] <CaveJoh​nson376> > `flash` doesn't do any compression/compilation right? Just stores the text as written and it gets interpreted as normal?
L851[20:21:39] <CaveJoh​nson376> yep
L852[20:21:48] <CaveJoh​nson376> > `flash` doesn't do any compression/compilation right? Just stores the text as written and it gets interpreted as normal?
L853[20:21:48] <CaveJoh​nson376> yep, technically [Edited]
L854[20:21:49] <MarkN​stein> Sweet thanks
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L856[20:49:13] <Inari> Elfi: https://www.reddit.com/r/aww/comments/fnndx4/blue_jay_still_has_half_of_his_baby_feathers/
L857[21:02:42] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> flash does whatever you tell it
L858[21:23:09] <20​kdc> TIL that bit32 is faked on Lua 5.3, but only in OC
L859[21:23:32] <20​kdc> and I'm not sure why
L860[21:24:24] <Ocawes​ome101> compatibility probably
L861[21:24:30] <Ocawes​ome101> with lua 5.2
L862[21:24:48] <20​kdc> ...the trouble is, compatibility is actually worsened
L863[21:25:06] <20​kdc> because Lua 5.3 appears to have native bit32, OC just chooses not to expose it
L864[21:25:15] <The_St​argazer> but
L865[21:25:16] <The_St​argazer> but why
L866[21:25:25] <20​kdc> that's a remarkably good question and I don't know the answer
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L870[21:52:10] <Ocawes​ome101> Strange
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L874[22:31:49] <Galaxy> OW
L875[22:32:04] <Galaxy> DO NOT BITE YOUR UPPER LIP AND ATTEMPT TO DRINK COFFEE
L876[22:32:42] <The_St​argazer> i can guess that that burnt
L877[22:32:51] <Galaxy> obv
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L881[22:52:58] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> http://tinyurl.com/vwsd7no
L882[22:53:05] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> http://tinyurl.com/vl9e8ml
L883[22:53:15] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> my ol' beast
L884[22:53:18] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> a mix of old a new
L885[22:53:19] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> *and
L886[22:53:45] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> a good ol BSEL'd Q6600
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L888[23:10:40] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> what should i name this PC
L889[23:10:46] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> 'cause i'm giving it to my friend
L890[23:11:01] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> i'm torn between "Wheelpower-And-Go" and "A-Perfect-Hero"
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