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<payonel>
and a note with what @Kristopher38 said, SBKnows, I am not pleased
that we created helpful libraries in openos for components with the
same names as those components
L2[00:12:06]
<payonel>
examples include robot, filesystem, and network
L3[00:12:12]
<payonel>
not pleased at all about those
L4[00:12:20]
<payonel>
it is confusing and weird
L5[00:12:29] <AmandaC> They'll be gone by
OC2. :P
L6[00:12:34] <AmandaC> whenever that
happens
L7[00:12:51]
<payonel>
yes they will 🙂
L8[00:13:23]
<payonel> i
mean, what?
L9[00:13:31] <Corded> * <payonel>
runs
L10[00:13:44]
<Bob>
@DaComputerNerd xpcall
L11[00:13:50]
<20kdc>
wouldn't that be OpenOS 2
L12[00:13:51] <AmandaC> don't worry,
payonel, I'll provide an allibi for their murders
L13[00:14:02]
<Bob> OC
Lua libs are pure gold
L14[00:14:04] <AmandaC> I mean, maybe.
Depends if I'm awake
L15[00:14:20]
<20kdc>
...pcall/xpcall are standard Lua
L16[00:14:24]
<Bob> i
permanently borrowed the arg parser for my love projects 👀
L17[00:14:30]
<20kdc>
...
L18[00:15:00]
<20kdc>
isn't there a licensing thingymajig regarding that?
L19[00:15:29] <payonel> 20kdc: i'm
thinking of calling it ocos
L20[00:15:51] <payonel> our license is
MIT
L21[00:15:52]
<20kdc>
...it's an interesting name, at least
L22[00:16:33]
<Ocawesome101> payonel: nah, just include
Proton by default
L23[00:16:39] <Corded> *
<Ocawesome101> drops mic
L24[00:17:17] <payonel> 20kdc: open to
suggestions
L25[00:17:38]
<Ocawesome101> well, what is its general
concept?
L26[00:18:35]
<Ocawesome101> similar to OpenOS where it
loads the entire sun on startup?
L27[00:18:48] <payonel> haha
L28[00:18:55] <payonel> i deserve
that
L29[00:22:29]
<ThePiGuy24> just call them
`lib{componentname}`
L30[00:23:01]
<ThePiGuy24> %tonkout
L31[00:23:02] <MichiBot> Sard! ThePiGuy24!
You beat your own previous record of 4 hours, 45 minutes and 25
seconds (By 1 hour, 31 minutes and 27 seconds)! I hope you're
happy!
L32[00:23:03] <MichiBot> ThePiGuy24 has
tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.006 tonk points!
plus 0.01 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score:
0.10031, Position #7 Need 0.06668 more points to pass
DaComputerNerd!
L33[00:23:24]
<ThePiGuy24> oh yes bois >0.1 tonk
points
L34[00:25:23]
<ThePiGuy24> %tonkleaders
L36[00:26:11] *
Izaya yawns
L39[00:26:56]
<Ocawesome101> why
L40[00:27:04] <Izaya> why what
L41[00:27:09]
<Ocawesome101> why would you do such a
thing
L42[00:27:14] <Izaya> such a thing as
what
L43[00:27:16]
<Ocawesome101> /s
L44[00:27:24]
<Ocawesome101> that abomination
L45[00:27:27]
<Ocawesome101> that is the shell
L46[00:27:34] <Izaya> abomination?
L47[00:27:38] <Izaya> do you not like
Lua?
L48[00:27:43]
<Ocawesome101> yes I do
L49[00:27:57]
<Ocawesome101> but are there not more
efficient ways of doing shell commands?
L50[00:28:32] <Izaya> Not really, this
gives you direct access to the internal data structures on the
machine, no abstraction necessary
L51[00:30:00] <Izaya> OC is interesting in
that all your software is implemented in a high-level
language
L52[00:30:02] <AmandaC> It's Power Shell
but with Lua.
L53[00:30:06] <Izaya> It'd be silly not to
abuse it
L54[00:30:11] <Izaya> AmandaC++
L55[00:30:12] <MichiBot> Izaya: AmandaC now
has 9022 points
L56[00:30:14] <Izaya> also it's not FUCKING
SLOW
L57[00:30:16]
<ThePiGuy24> powershell is a crime
L58[00:30:36] <Izaya> slowershell is a neat
idea with dubious execution
L59[00:30:44] <AmandaC> I used powershell
as my main shell on my linux laptop for awhile. Eventually had to
ditch it due to some technical reasons
L60[00:31:02]
<Ocawesome101> :P
L61[00:31:08]
<Ocawesome101> Izaya: fair
L62[00:31:15] <Izaya> it makes a lot of
sense on Windows because it can interact directly with ... COM(?)
objects
L63[00:31:38] <Izaya> at any rate
L64[00:31:48] <Izaya> why would I clone
unix again
L65[00:31:53] <Izaya> we have 3 unix clones
already
L66[00:32:32]
<Ocawesome101> fair
L67[00:32:39]
<Ocawesome101> OpenOS, and the Open
Kernels, you mean?
L68[00:32:44] <Izaya> and unix clones are
boring
L69[00:32:55] <Izaya> no, OpenOS, Plan9k,
and theoretically OK(2)
L70[00:33:21]
<Ocawesome101> yeah OK2 is very Unix/Linux
inspired
L71[00:33:35]
<Ocawesome101> Plan9k is a full on Plan9
replica
L72[00:33:38]
<Ocawesome101> I think
L73[00:33:39]
<ThePiGuy24> has anyone made a c to lua
transcompiler :p
L75[00:33:42] <Izaya> not even close
L76[00:33:46] <Izaya> it's a unix
clone
L77[00:33:52]
<Ocawesome101> oh ok
L78[00:33:56] <Izaya> PsychOS2 is more like
Plan9 than Plan9k
L79[00:33:57]
<Ocawesome101> thought plan9 was
unic
L80[00:33:59]
<Ocawesome101> unix*
L81[00:34:07] <Izaya> Plan9 is more unixy
than unix
L82[00:34:13]
<Ocawesome101> :P
L83[00:34:16]
<Saghetti>
also i've killed off craftbox
L84[00:34:21] <Izaya> OpenOS is a weird
case because it isn't multitasking to the user
L85[00:34:32] <Izaya> but you can run
background processes quite happily
L86[00:34:33]
<Ocawesome101> Proton is an interesting
combination
L87[00:34:51] <Izaya> that's an
inconvenient name
L88[00:35:03]
<Ocawesome101> the shell is largely *nix
because that's what I'm comofortable with, but the file structure
couldn't be more different
L89[00:35:06]
<Ocawesome101> what, Proton?
L90[00:35:17] <Izaya> yup
L92[00:35:26]
<Ocawesome101> true
L93[00:35:29]
<Saghetti>
my new microkernel is called quark
L94[00:35:32]
<Ocawesome101> yeah ik
L95[00:35:45]
<Ocawesome101> I use valve's proton
L96[00:36:06] <Izaya> big brain is
exokernel
L97[00:36:08] *
Izaya taps forehead
L98[00:36:26]
<Ocawesome101> Isn't OpenOS basically an
exokernel
L99[00:36:42] <Izaya> given that everyone
sidesteps the APIs, yeah
L100[00:37:46]
<Ocawesome101> so should I rename Proton
to gluon, muon, tau, or neutrino? :D
L101[00:38:03]
<DaComputerNerd> pion
L102[00:38:13]
<Ocawesome101> ?
L103[00:38:20] <Izaya> may I suggest
another analogy
L104[00:38:28] <Izaya> Github already used
this analogy for their web browser
L105[00:38:30]
<Ocawesome101> sure
L106[00:38:42]
<Ocawesome101> go ahead
L107[00:39:02] <Izaya> well see I hadn't
thought of one, I was just saying, you should use another one
L108[00:39:04] <Izaya> but if you want
one
L109[00:39:09] <Izaya> some sort of
popcorn, as a play on kernel
L110[00:39:20]
<Ocawesome101> oh yeah possibly
L111[00:39:34] <Izaya> hey
L112[00:39:40] <Izaya> if you say that's
an abomination
L113[00:39:42] <Izaya> listen to
this:
L114[00:39:51] <Izaya> there is no longer
an equivelant to /bin
L115[00:40:47]
<Ocawesome101> :thonking:
L116[00:40:59] <Izaya> all commands are
library calls
L117[00:41:00]
<ThePiGuy24> :cursed_citadel:
L118[00:41:10] <Izaya> it's
excellent
L119[00:41:21] <Izaya> hence the
import/unimport thing
L120[00:41:29] <Izaya> you can import
libraries into your shell environment without a prefix
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<Saghetti>
that sounds like templeos
L123[00:41:43]
<Saghetti>
where the shell is just a c interpreter
L124[00:41:49] <Izaya> TempleOS is
cool
L125[00:41:50]
<Saghetti>
HolyC*
L126[00:42:04]
<ThePiGuy24> its cool and cursed
L127[00:42:17] <Izaya> my issue with
TempleOS:
L128[00:42:19] <Izaya> x86_64
L129[00:42:20] <AmandaC> %8ball laptop
goes sleep-sleep?
L130[00:42:21] <MichiBot> AmandaC: [ The
Bowling ball doesn't answer ]
L131[00:42:42] *
AmandaC knocks the bowling ball onto Inari's keyboard, cuddles up
around Elfi, decides it's veg-out time
L132[00:43:09] <Izaya> bonus points:
L133[00:43:11]
<ThePiGuy24> destroy vegetal
L134[00:43:23] <Izaya> because the
commands are library calls
L135[00:43:52] <Izaya> running commands
almost never hits the disk
L136[00:44:03]
<Saghetti>
:cosmic_brain:
L137[00:51:25] <Izaya> still gotta figure
out memory optimisation
L138[00:51:39] <Izaya> I'm thinking I
could keep track of which processes have loaded which
libraries
L139[00:52:04]
<Saghetti>
how expensive is copying data in lua?
L140[00:52:08]
<Saghetti>
like copying a table
L141[00:52:13] <Izaya> copying?
L142[00:52:16]
<Saghetti>
(trying to optimize message passing)
L143[00:52:20] <Izaya> well, normally you
pass a reference to a table
L144[00:52:32]
<Saghetti>
ok so not expensive
L145[00:52:50] <Izaya> but any time you
re-define a variable using the original value it's copying,
replacing, and potentially garbage collecting the old one
L146[00:53:36] <Izaya> shutil.cd =
os.chdir
L147[00:53:37] <Izaya> shutil.mkdir =
fs.makeDirectory
L148[00:53:39] <Izaya> shutil.cp =
fs.copy
L149[00:53:41] <Izaya> shutil.rm =
fs.remove
L150[00:53:43] <Izaya> :^)
L151[00:57:27] <Izaya> I wonder what the
minimum I'd need to copy to a machine to mount a root filesystem
over the network would be...
L152[00:57:44] <Izaya> I could definitely
fit it on a 32K flash card, at any rate...
L153[01:00:54]
<Saghetti>
flash cards are pretty cool
L155[01:02:40]
<Saghetti>
how do you get that much accuracy
L156[01:02:47]
<Saghetti>
for the response time
L157[01:03:00] <Izaya> if not silent then
print("Ping reply:
"..tostring(computer.uptime()-ipt).." seconds.")
end
L158[01:03:32]
<Saghetti>
i thought it was down to 0.05 seconds
L159[01:03:42] <Izaya> I'm using
ocvm
L160[01:03:47]
<Saghetti>
oh ok
L161[01:04:25] <Izaya> anyway, netutil's
ping is now callable as a function, and it returns true if there
were any responses - or false if there were none, then the number
of successful pings, the number of failed pings, and the average
ping time
L162[01:06:03]
<Saghetti>
flash cards will let me accomplish my dream of a powerful os-free
VM
L163[01:06:10]
<Saghetti>
that doesn't require a hard drive to boot
L164[01:06:27] <Izaya> I'm just weighing
up whether I want to bother with flash cards for workstations
L165[01:06:29]
<Saghetti>
i definitely won't be able to have it all in the BIOS
L166[01:06:39] <Izaya> I could also just
copy the minimal root filesystem to the tmpfs over the
network
L167[01:10:37]
<Saghetti>
or i could just make the entire vm fit in init.lua
L169[01:15:29]
<The_Stargazer> >import
L170[01:15:32]
<The_Stargazer> what is this, Java?
L171[01:15:53] <Izaya> no this is
L172[01:16:38] <Izaya> man you'd think
wikipedia would have a page on the import keyword
L173[01:16:41] <Izaya> oh well
L174[01:16:57] <Izaya> anyway, you use
import to compose multiple libraries into your shell
environment
L175[01:17:25]
<The_Stargazer> so wait
L176[01:17:29]
<The_Stargazer> the shell is just a lua
shell?
L177[01:17:37] <Izaya> yup it's just a Lua
REPL
L178[01:17:37]
<The_Stargazer> how does one run
programs?
L179[01:17:42] <Izaya> you call library
functions
L180[01:17:59] <Izaya> there are no
distinct executables
L181[01:17:59]
<The_Stargazer> ah
L182[01:18:04] <Izaya> only
libraries
L183[01:18:29] <Izaya> everything should
be call-able from inside other programs
L184[01:19:51]
<Ocawesome101> At this rate one could
probably fit a basic PsychOS clone into an EEPROM
L185[01:19:59] <Izaya> been there done
that
L186[01:20:34] <Izaya> EEPROM with partial
VT100 support, a Lua REPL, and a Minitel implementation
L187[01:21:57]
<Ocawesome101> What exactly is
vt100?
L189[01:22:22] <Izaya> you know how OpenOS
has the escape codes that make the term API mostly redundant?
L190[01:22:26] <Izaya> those are VT100
compatible
L191[01:22:44]
<Ocawesome101> Ah
L192[01:22:51] <Izaya> the VT100 being the
most well-known terminal implementing the ANSI standard for
terminal control codes
L193[01:23:25]
<Ocawesome101> Neat
L195[01:33:45] <Izaya> hm
L196[01:33:48] <Izaya> terrible
function:
L197[01:34:01] <Izaya> silent(another
function, args)
L198[01:34:21] <Izaya> redirects output to
a sink, then runs the function with the arguments
L199[01:37:02] <dequbed> Oh god people
that claim EE is easy until you throw an MLCC at them that kicks of
an positive feedback oscillation up until destruction because it's
microphonic. -.-
L200[01:37:23] <dequbed> aka YELL AT THIS
BOARD AND SEE IT BURN
L201[01:38:05]
<ThePiGuy24> ohno
L202[01:38:47] <Izaya> so
L203[01:38:59] <Izaya> downside of smaller
serialization library: it fails to seraizlize some values
L204[01:39:11] <dequbed> Izaya: I need a
hug or a drink. Or both.
L205[01:39:18]
<The_Stargazer> ok i understood neither of
those acronyms
L206[01:39:24] <Izaya> so the shell will
sometimes just return the tostring of the table rather than the
pretty table output
L207[01:39:35] *
Izaya slides dequbed a rum and ginger beer, offers hug
L208[01:40:11] *
dequbed takes the rum
L209[01:40:15] <dequbed> i hate people
q.q
L210[01:40:22]
<The_Stargazer> %tonk
L211[01:40:22] <MichiBot> Heckgosh!
The_Stargazer! You beat ThePiGuy24's previous record of <0 (By
1 hour, 17 minutes and 21 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L212[01:40:23] <MichiBot> The_Stargazer's
new record is 1 hour, 17 minutes and 21 seconds! The_Stargazer also
gained 0.00129 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #9. Need
0.01445 more points to pass Kodos!
L213[01:40:34] *
dequbed hugs Izaya
L214[01:40:45] <Izaya> don't worry people
aren't real they can't hurt you
L216[01:45:29]
<20kdc>
...ooOOooOOooo I am a spoooky pppeeeeerrrsooooonnn
L217[01:45:59] *
Izaya applies railgun to 20kdc
L218[01:46:28]
<20kdc>
Noooo! Hitscan weapons! My only weakness...!!!!
L219[01:46:58]
<Zef> that
pfp is like adorable
L220[01:47:16] <Izaya> when did we start
calling them profile pictures instead of avatars
L221[01:47:19] <Izaya> royal we, of
course
L222[01:47:53]
<Zef> The
only things I've heard referred to as avatars are in 3d
enviroments
L223[01:48:21] <Izaya> the picture next to
one's name has been one's avatar since time immemorial
L224[01:49:35] <Elfi> Zef, were you around
for message boards?
L225[01:51:45] <CompanionCube> i imagine
twitter and facebook have something to do with that...
L226[01:52:43]
<Zef> I
can't remember anything I've done beyond about 4 years
L227[02:01:22]
<Zef> I do
remember I used to play roblox back in like 2007
L228[02:01:56]
<Zef> Well,
maybe not that long ago, but it was around then
L229[02:40:42] <Elfi> I'm gonna go out on
a limb and say no, then
L230[02:41:24] <Elfi> But yeah, the shift
to centralized and corporatized communities was pretty much where
the change in jargon took place
L231[02:42:52] <Izaya> corporatized
communities
L232[02:42:55] <Izaya> what a horrible
concept
L233[02:45:18] <Elfi> Gods, right?
L234[02:45:29] <Elfi> Can't imagine why
anyone would favour those
L235[02:45:45] *
Elfi stares at the countless eyes all seeing through
corded's
L236[02:46:49] *
Izaya shudders
L238[02:54:25] <Elfi> no vore on this
christian minecraft server
L239[02:54:40] <Elfi> Don't make me tap
the sign
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<Zef> net
split time
L275[03:28:38] <Elfi> That's why you
shouldn't make me tap the sign
L276[03:29:37]
<Zef> you
snapped them
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or normal mode by default?
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<The_Stargazer> for recipes
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<Zef>
Normal mode
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<Forecaster> %tonk
L307[05:26:27] <MichiBot> Zounderkite!
Forecaster! You beat The_Stargazer's previous record of 1 hour,
17 minutes and 21 seconds (By 2 hours, 28 minutes and 43 seconds)!
I hope you're happy!
L308[05:26:28] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new
record is 3 hours, 46 minutes and 4 seconds! Forecaster also gained
0.00496 (0.00248 x 2) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position
#3. Need 0.06835 more points to pass Lizzian!
L309[05:26:34] <Izaya> so I had this
galaxy brain idea
L310[05:27:04] <Izaya> package, in vanilla
Lua, allows you to specify arbitrary library searchers
L311[05:27:21] <Izaya> which return a
function that return a library
L312[05:28:22] <Izaya> I'm thinking I
should add another searcher that checks pre-configured hosts'
exported RPC functions and lets you require() stuff over the
network
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<The_Stargazer> imagine: soviet
linux
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<The_Stargazer> /ussr instead of
/usr
L335[06:59:33] <CompanionCube> soviet
linux: root is a feudal construct to be abolished
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<𝐿𝒾𝓏??𝒾𝒶𝓃>
@bendevnull poke
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<ThePiGuy24> %sip
L347[08:43:51] <MichiBot> You drink a
thick jumbonium potion (New!). ThePiGuy24's shoes are now slightly
too large until they eat a pie.
L348[08:44:16]
<ThePiGuy24> they already were
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L351[09:31:49] <Elfi> %quaff
L352[09:31:50] <MichiBot> You drink a
goopy yellow potion (New!). Elfi feels a sudden surge of static
electricity.
L353[09:59:46] <Lizzian> %tonk
L354[09:59:48] <MichiBot> Aw jeez!
Lizzian! You beat Forecaster's previous record of 3 hours, 46
minutes and 4 seconds (By 47 minutes and 15 seconds)! I hope you're
happy!
L355[09:59:49] <MichiBot> Lizzian's new
record is 4 hours, 33 minutes and 20 seconds! Lizzian also gained
0.00316 (0.00079 x 4) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position
#2 => #1.
L356[10:00:18] *
Lizzian had miscalculated this morning
L357[10:01:55] <Lizzian>
%tonkleaders
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<Forecaster> :O
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<AdorableCatgirl> jfc
L401[13:53:50] <Izaya> jhc
L402[13:55:23]
<AdorableCatgirl> izaya
L403[13:55:29]
<AdorableCatgirl> i will come down to the
land down under
L404[13:55:35]
<AdorableCatgirl> smuggle myself in, in
fact
L405[13:55:37]
<AdorableCatgirl> and cough on you
L406[13:55:43] <Izaya> hey now
L407[13:55:49] <Izaya> keep the failings
of your society to yourself
L408[13:56:21]
<AdorableCatgirl> except i don't have the
plague yet :(
L409[13:56:30] <Izaya> tfw
L410[13:57:15]
<AdorableCatgirl> tfw no plague doctor
gf
L411[13:57:47]
<AdorableCatgirl> anyways
L412[13:57:51]
<AdorableCatgirl> time to work on
Fennec
L413[14:03:48]
<Brisingr
Aerowing> Lizzian: nice tonk!
L414[14:07:43]
<ThePiGuy24> ohgod that netsplit
L415[14:08:24] <Izaya> my sharona, but all
instances of "sharona" are replaced with
"corona"
L416[14:34:01] <Lizzian> %tonkout
L417[14:34:02] <MichiBot> Dogast!
Lizzian! You beat your own previous record of 4 hours, 33 minutes
and 20 seconds (By 54 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L418[14:34:03] <MichiBot> Lizzian has
tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.004 tonk points!
plus 0.006 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score:
0.50829, Position #1
L419[14:34:05]
<20kdc>
%tonkout
L420[14:34:09]
<20kdc>
darn it
L421[14:34:11] <Lizzian> HAH
L422[14:34:21]
<Ocawesome101> DANGIT
L423[14:34:31]
<Ocawesome101> %tonk
L424[14:34:31] <MichiBot> Jeepers!
Ocawesome101! You beat Lizzian's previous record of <0 (By 29
seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L425[14:34:32]
<20kdc> I
had been WATCHING the tonk window
L426[14:34:32] <MichiBot> Ocawesome101's
new record is 29 seconds! Ocawesome101 also gained 0.00001 tonk
points for stealing the tonk. Position #5. Need 0.18077 more points
to pass simon816!
L427[14:34:36] <dequbed> Izaya: I will
smack you.
L428[14:34:41]
<Ocawesome101> Might as well have some
small victory
L429[14:34:44]
<20kdc> I
was hoping I could get to 14:44
L430[14:34:52]
<20kdc> and
then tonkout
L431[14:35:29]
<20kdc>
%tonk
L432[14:35:40]
<20kdc>
wha
L433[14:35:41] <Lizzian> 15 minute
cooldown remember
L434[14:37:02] *
Izaya starts the music
L436[14:38:24] <Lizzian> nah, that's
fine
L437[14:39:42]
<20kdc>
sighs
L438[14:39:47]
<20kdc> I
have to dramatically rage at the sky
L439[14:48:20]
<AdorableCatgirl> Izaya: remember to
eurobeat doriftu
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L442[14:49:54] <Izaya> tasteful mild bass
boost
L443[14:50:00]
<20kdc>
%tonk
L444[14:50:01] <MichiBot> Fopdoodle!
20kdc! You beat Ocawesome101's previous record of 29 seconds (By
15 minutes)! I hope you're happy!
L445[14:50:02] <MichiBot> 20kdc's new
record is 15 minutes and 29 seconds! 20kdc also gained 0.00025 tonk
points for stealing the tonk. Position #15. Need 0.00068 more
points to pass SquidDev!
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<20kdc>
I've noticed having a physical book, an on-screen clock, and some
knowledge of mental maths is a useful combination.
L450[14:53:24] <Izaya> s/ent/et/
L451[14:53:24] <MichiBot> <20kdc>
I've noticed having a physical book, an on-screen clock, and some
knowledge of metal maths is a useful combination.
L452[14:53:58]
<ThePiGuy24> %s/book/anxiety/
L453[14:53:58] <MichiBot> <20kdc>
I've noticed having a physical anxiety, an on-screen clock, and
some knowledge of metal maths is a useful combination.
L454[14:54:12]
<20kdc>
...
L455[14:54:12]
<ThePiGuy24> %s/ a//
L456[14:54:13] <MichiBot> <20kdc>
I've noticed having physical anxiety, an on-screen clock, and some
knowledge of metal maths is a useful combination.
L457[14:54:51]
<20kdc>
...
L459[14:59:50]
<ThePiGuy24> daww still no apng
support
L460[15:00:45]
<ThePiGuy24> guess electron is just behind
on the standards
L461[15:01:14] <Izaya> consider updating
your - oh wait
L463[15:03:38] <Inari> Izaya: weird
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L465[15:06:27] <AmandaC> Why does the one
on the right have boobs
L466[15:06:31]
<AdorableCatgirl> APNG is cool
L467[15:06:38] <AmandaC> I demand
answerers
L468[15:06:56] <Izaya> you say why
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L470[15:07:04] <Izaya> but I have a
counter-question
L471[15:07:06] <Izaya> how
L472[15:07:30] <AmandaC> How is easy, and
probably the same answer as why: Japan
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L474[15:07:37] <Izaya> ...
L475[15:07:39] <Izaya> Right.
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L477[15:12:19] <dequbed> Izaya:
calcification
L478[15:13:46] <AmandaC> tiddy should be
soft and warm, to offset the cold hard world.
L479[15:14:12] <AmandaC> So says the
lesbian of the pool
L480[15:14:35] *
Izaya throws yuri manga into the pool
L481[15:14:43] <Izaya> Share with me your
wisdom, Lesbian of the Pool
L482[15:15:18] <AmandaC> you should have
waited to give the offering after the advice, now she's going to be
too distracted reading about girls.
L483[15:15:25] <Izaya> shit
L484[15:15:35] <Izaya> oh well I can't
blame em
L485[15:15:37] <dequbed> Listen, strange
women lying in pools distributing ~swords~wisdom is no basis for a
system of ~government~knowledge.
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L489[15:18:14] <AmandaC> Can't be much
worse than what we've currently got going, either with or without
the strikethrough, dequbed
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L491[15:20:56] <dequbed> AmandaC: Eh.
Democracy and Universities sucks but it's still better than all the
other ways we tried.
L492[15:21:26] <dequbed> Izaya: You know
what would be lovely? IF TI COULD STOP MAKING THEIR OWN FUCKING
PROPIETARY INCOMPATIBLE VERSIONS OF INDUSTRY STANDARD PACKAGES!
</rant>
L493[15:21:37] <Izaya> have you
considered
L494[15:21:38]
<AdorableCatgirl> what
L495[15:21:40] <Izaya> setting fire to
TI
L496[15:21:46] <dequbed> Good idea.
L497[15:23:05] <dequbed> TI are pretty
shit often anyways -.-'
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L501[15:27:47] <AmandaC> Man, I hate when
people's CPUs gain sentience and join IRC to say hi then
leave
L502[15:30:21]
<Saghetti>
saame
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L505[15:31:17] <MOS6502> hi
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L507[15:31:43]
<Z0idburg>
It was a good day for a nap in the woods
L508[15:32:04]
<Z0idburg>
Izaya: I forgot to turn off the choke on my snowmobile after I
started it
L509[15:32:13]
<Z0idburg>
So the engine flooded while I was having fun
L510[15:33:51]
<ThePiGuy24> f
L511[15:33:57]
<ThePiGuy24> %tonk
L512[15:33:57] <MichiBot> Fudge!
ThePiGuy24! You beat 20kdc's previous record of 15 minutes and 29
seconds (By 28 minutes and 26 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L513[15:33:58] <MichiBot> ThePiGuy24's new
record is 43 minutes and 56 seconds! ThePiGuy24 also gained 0.00047
tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #7. Need 0.06621 more
points to pass DaComputerNerd!
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<Saghetti>
%tonk
L518[15:57:55] <MichiBot> I'm sorry
Saghetti, you were not able to beat ThePiGuy24's record of 43
minutes and 56 seconds this time. 23 minutes and 58 seconds were
wasted! Missed by 19 minutes and 57 seconds!
L519[16:03:06] ***
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L522[16:32:40]
<Z0idburg>
What the heck is going on it ran an hour so
L523[16:32:44]
<Z0idburg>
Ago*
L524[16:33:06]
<Z0idburg>
Back at the house snowmobile won't start again no reason
L526[16:36:48]
<ThePiGuy24> oh yes тсар
L527[16:37:13]
<AdorableCatgirl> yeah
L528[16:37:18]
<AdorableCatgirl> TSuki ARchive
L529[16:37:26]
<AdorableCatgirl> thank Izaya for the
genius idea for a name
L530[16:38:09]
<limelier>
[ soviet anthem starts ]
L531[16:38:12]
<AdorableCatgirl> it's basically CPIO but
with bigger file sizes and 48-bit timestamps
L532[16:38:20]
<AdorableCatgirl> and a few other things
removed
L533[16:40:18] <dequbed> The State anthem
is from after the october revolution you walnut =.=
L534[16:40:51]
<Ariri>
First Strike: Final Hour is a good mobile game if your into nuclear
RTS
L535[16:40:55]
<Ariri>
you’re*
L536[16:52:20]
<20kdc>
%tonkout
L537[16:52:21] <MichiBot> Jiminy Cricket!
20kdc! You beat ThePiGuy24's previous record of 43 minutes and 56
seconds (By 10 minutes and 28 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
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L539[16:52:21] <MichiBot> 20kdc has
stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0 tonk points!
Current score: 0.0027. Position #15 Need 0.00068 more points to
pass SquidDev!
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L541[16:53:03]
<20kdc>
...I gained zero tonk points? rereads scoring documentation
L542[16:53:20]
<Forecaster> tonkout only gives points for
whole hours
L543[16:53:38]
<Forecaster> tonk gives points for the
difference between the previous record and the new one
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L546[17:01:22]
<ThePiGuy24> %tonk
L547[17:01:26]
<ThePiGuy24> egh
L548[17:01:27] <MichiBot> Consarn it!
ThePiGuy24! You beat 20kdc's previous record of <0 (By 9
minutes and 4 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L549[17:01:28] <MichiBot> ThePiGuy24's new
record is 9 minutes and 4 seconds! ThePiGuy24 also gained 0.00015
tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #7. Need 0.06606 more
points to pass DaComputerNerd!
L550[17:01:38]
<ThePiGuy24> that took a while
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<20kdc>
%tonk
L553[17:47:16] <MichiBot> Potzblitz!
20kdc! You beat ThePiGuy24's previous record of 9 minutes and 4
seconds (By 36 minutes and 45 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L554[17:47:17] <MichiBot> 20kdc's new
record is 45 minutes and 50 seconds! 20kdc also gained 0.00061 tonk
points for stealing the tonk. Position #15. Need 0.00007 more
points to pass SquidDev!
L555[17:47:31]
<20kdc>
yessssss
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L559[18:23:35]
<Ocawesome101> %tonk
L560[18:23:35] <MichiBot> I'm sorry
Ocawesome101, you were not able to beat 20kdc's record of 45
minutes and 50 seconds this time. 36 minutes and 19 seconds were
wasted! Missed by 9 minutes and 30 seconds!
L561[18:23:41]
<Ocawesome101> dangit
L562[18:37:04]
<AdorableCatgirl> luacomp 1.2.1 is
out
L563[18:37:09]
<AdorableCatgirl> i don't remember exactly
what i changed
L564[18:37:18]
<AdorableCatgirl> OH, YEAH
L565[18:37:28]
<AdorableCatgirl> STDERR DOESN'T GET
CAPTURED BY SHELL BLOCKS ANYMORE
L566[18:43:06]
<AdorableCatgirl> anyways
L567[18:43:18]
<AdorableCatgirl> Zorya NEO will soon be
booting from a tsar archive
L568[18:44:57] *
AmandaC boots @AdorableCatgirl from a old, bombed-out gameboy
cartridge
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L570[18:45:13]
<AdorableCatgirl> oh god
L571[18:45:17]
<AdorableCatgirl> oh fuck
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L574[19:14:03]
<DaComputerNerd> %tonk
L575[19:14:04] <MichiBot> Aw jeez!
DaComputerNerd! You beat 20kdc's previous record of 45 minutes
and 50 seconds (By 4 minutes and 38 seconds)! I hope you're
happy!
L576[19:14:05] <MichiBot> DaComputerNerd's
new record is 50 minutes and 28 seconds! DaComputerNerd also gained
0.00008 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #6. Need
0.03437 more points to pass Ocawesome101!
L577[19:16:31]
<Ocawesome101> k, so
L578[19:16:46]
<Ocawesome101> how much stuff do y'all
think I can cram into one EEPROM?
L579[19:16:49]
<ThePiGuy24> fuckele
L580[19:18:01]
<Ocawesome101> in terms of standard APIs
and general OS stuff
L581[19:18:27]
<Ocawesome101> (minified, of course)
L582[19:29:16]
<AdorableCatgirl> PsychOS can fit into an
EEPROM
L583[19:29:18]
<AdorableCatgirl> last i checked
L584[20:42:38]
<AdorableCatgirl> i seem to have OpenWRT
working
L586[20:46:10]
<Ocawesome101> nice
L587[21:00:29]
<Ocawesome101> %discord
L589[21:02:10]
<Daark> If
anyone wants to make an OS for OpenComputers, let me know!
Must
be good at Lua
L590[21:03:19]
<Ocawesome101> I think most people in this
discord are pretty good at Lua
L591[21:03:44]
<Ocawesome101> and several of us already
have one or more (I) OS projects
L592[21:03:57]
<Ocawesome101> %s/(I)//
L593[21:03:57] <MichiBot>
<Ocawesome101> and several of us already have one or more ()
OS projects
L594[21:04:18]
<Ocawesome101> %s/ \(\)//
L595[21:04:18] <MichiBot>
<Ocawesome101> and several of us already have one or more OS
projects
L596[21:06:22]
<AdorableCatgirl> so first thing i need to
work on is the VFS in fennec
L597[21:06:48]
<Daark>
well oof then nobody will want to work with me lol
L598[21:07:23]
<AdorableCatgirl> yea, vfs and hooks
L599[21:07:26]
<AdorableCatgirl> hooks are
important
L600[21:08:17]
<Ocawesome101> >several
L601[21:08:18]
<Ocawesome101> There are like 500 people
even in just the discord
L602[21:09:15]
<Daark>
?
L603[21:09:25]
<Ocawesome101> ??
L604[21:18:45]
<Daark>
wdm
L605[21:18:47]
<Daark>
*wdym
L606[21:19:56]
<Ocawesome101> I don't think all 500
people are working on an OS
L607[21:20:04]
<Daark> ah
ok
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L609[21:38:03]
<Forecaster> %sip
L610[21:38:04] <MichiBot> You drink a
prickly quicksilver potion (New!). Forecaster thinks the empty
bottle is a snake until they see a star fall.
L611[21:38:11]
<Forecaster> ack
L612[21:38:25]
<ThePiGuy24> ono a snek
L613[21:38:41]
<ThePiGuy24> %tonk
L614[21:38:42] <MichiBot> Fudge!
ThePiGuy24! You beat DaComputerNerd's previous record of 50
minutes and 28 seconds (By 1 hour, 34 minutes and 9 seconds)! I
hope you're happy!
L615[21:38:43] <MichiBot> ThePiGuy24's new
record is 2 hours, 24 minutes and 38 seconds! ThePiGuy24 also
gained 0.00157 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #7. Need
0.06457 more points to pass DaComputerNerd!
L617[22:24:08]
<Daark>
cute
L618[22:24:23]
<Daark>
😋
L619[22:24:46]
<Daark>
🤗
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L621[22:43:18]
<Saghetti>
@Daark are you good/familiar with microkernels?
L622[22:43:37]
<Daark>
No..
L623[22:44:11]
<Saghetti>
oh ok
L624[22:44:49]
<Saghetti>
i'm starting to work on a microkernel called quark
L625[22:45:00]
<Saghetti>
and it would be nice to have some contributors
L627[22:52:35]
<Daark>
What's a microkernel? I might be able to help depending on what you
are trying to make. @Saghetti
L628[22:59:42]
<Saghetti>
so basically
L629[23:01:13]
<Saghetti>
a microkernel is where you replace drivers with processes
L630[23:02:12]
<Saghetti>
so instead of a filesystem driver, for example, you have a
user-mode processes called a filesystem server
L631[23:03:08]
<Saghetti>
and instead of system calls to open files, read input, etc
L632[23:03:26]
<Saghetti>
you send messages to the servers that act as drivers
L633[23:04:25]
<Daark>
huh
L634[23:04:28]
<Daark> im
confused lol
L635[23:04:31]
<Daark> but
I may be able to help
L636[23:04:34]
<Daark> im
fairly good with Lua
L637[23:30:52] <Izaya> AdorableCatgirl:
PsychOS can't, but MultICE can
L638[23:31:10] <Izaya> multi-tasking,
multi-user, networked OS in 4KB
L639[23:35:14]
<Oetjel>
what does all those bot things mean?
L640[23:35:34]
<Oetjel> is
that something that gets triggered by OpenComputers in someone's MC
game?
L641[23:36:02]
<Oetjel>
what do all those bot things mean? [Edited]
L642[23:36:36] <Izaya> just
botposting
L643[23:36:38] *
Izaya nods
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L645[23:37:52] <dequbed> Automated
SPAM
L646[23:38:07] <Michiyo> @Daark Most of
the Bot messages are from the Discord <-> IRC Bridge
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L648[23:41:19]
<MGR> Wrong
name to ping 😛
L649[23:41:46]
<Oetjel>
xD
L650[23:42:01] <DFrostedWang> Hey all!
Nobody remembers me I'm sure but hi again!
L651[23:42:18] <Izaya> that's a familiar
name
L652[23:42:20]
<MGR> No, I
do remember you
L653[23:42:33] <DFrostedWang> been
literally years I think
L654[23:42:54] <dequbed> DFrostedWang:
Welcome back but not really.
L655[23:43:04] <Izaya> you haven't talked
in the last year, according to my logs
L656[23:43:17]
<Oetjel>
why is everyone using irc bridge?
L657[23:43:24] <dequbed> Because Discord
sucks.
L658[23:43:26]
<MGR>
Because not everyone has Discord
L659[23:43:46]
<Oetjel> ah
okay
L660[23:44:21] <DFrostedWang> I didn't
even realize y'all had a discord. My bouncer (my whole vps) has
been offline for a long time and I just got back onto irc
L661[23:44:30] <DFrostedWang> but hey irc
is better though
L662[23:44:38] <Izaya> it's a nice day
out, where do I wanna go
L663[23:44:43] <Izaya> someone pick a
cardinal direction
L664[23:44:48] <DFrostedWang> South
L665[23:44:50] <dequbed> Izaya:
Down.
L666[23:44:50] <Izaya> or bicardinal, I
think is the word
L667[23:45:16] <Izaya> DFrostedWang:
Maclean and Grafton are boring though :<
L668[23:45:21] <Izaya> dequbed: I'm
already sitting down
L669[23:45:31] <dequbed> Izaya: Dig
deeper.
L670[23:45:31] <DFrostedWang> idk where
you even are
L671[23:45:45] <DFrostedWang> btw, hexchat
says it loaded this log from 2015 so wow
L672[23:45:47] <DFrostedWang> it's been
more than a few years lol
L673[23:46:42] <Vexatos> I remember this
name
L675[23:47:01] <Michiyo> :P
L676[23:47:35] <dequbed> Izaya: ST claims
this MEMS micro has a 60dB CMR. Not *minus* 60dB, POSITIVE. As in
you put 1.8V into it and it goes HERE HAVE 1.8 MEGAVOLT BACK
BECAUSE I LOVE YOU.
L677[23:47:51] <dequbed> I somehow doubt
this figure.
L678[23:48:00] <Izaya> we should exploit
this for massive profits
L679[23:49:05] <dequbed> Well it'll just
burn everyting downstream from that down to motherfucking *atoms*
but you won't get energy out. Conservation of energy and all
that.
L680[23:49:35] <DFrostedWang> heya Vexatos
I remember you too
L681[23:49:38] <Izaya> This seems like the
opposite of a problem.
L682[23:50:07] <dequbed> Izaya: If you
want to stand in the way of the 1.8 MV plasma arc be my guest. I
won't.
L683[23:50:13] <Izaya> no no no
L684[23:50:16] <Izaya> you
misunderstand
L685[23:50:28] <Izaya> massive profits,
apparently, would come from weapons sales
L686[23:50:37] <Izaya> I'm sure we could
sell a plasma arc machine to someone
L687[23:50:47] <DFrostedWang> 1.8v to
detonate a nuke worth of power would be incredibly convenient...
for the first person to get one
L688[23:51:11] <dequbed> A plasma arc mems
that takes the quickest way to "ground" (becomes
meanigless at that point). As in the wielder.
L689[23:51:33] <Izaya> remote detonation,
then?
L690[23:51:57] <DFrostedWang> Sounds like
a bomb idea
L691[23:52:29] <dequbed> Well I mean its a
microphone. Put it in a phone, only have it activate when somebody
is being called. Give it to your ~~enemy~~ dearest friend I always
wanted to gift you something!. Call them
L692[23:52:42] <dequbed> Enjoy the short
screams of agony.
L693[23:53:58] <DFrostedWang> I think the
1.8MV power surge might introduce some interference, you probably
won't even hear any screams
L694[23:53:59] <dequbed> Izaya:
Considering. I have just made you deadly afraid of any gifts by me,
haven't I?
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L696[23:54:20] <Izaya> Just a little
suspicious of them.
L697[23:54:40] <dequbed> *Apart* from
computers, Mercedes cars, trucks and shady containers which you
already said you'd never accept from me :P
L698[23:54:47] <DFrostedWang> I'm working
at the moment on my first robot I've ever really fiddled with.
Would someone care to poke my code and tell me where I went
horribly wrong?
https://pastebin.com/ZZ70K4pV
L699[23:54:53] <Izaya> speaking of
cars
L700[23:55:12] <dequbed> DFrostedWang: And
here I was thinking you mean actual robots.
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L702[23:55:26] <Izaya> convince me not to
get an AE94 Corolla liftback and stick a 5th gen 4A-GE in it
L703[23:55:27] <DFrostedWang> I wish, but
I'm not a very good programmer
L704[23:55:51] <Izaya> or, for full
retard, a 4A-GZE
L705[23:55:52] <dequbed> I have a Kuka I
could lend you. Downpayment is whatever cleaning will cost if you
inadvertently kill yourself with it.
L706[23:55:56]
<Oetjel> I
got a raid block with drives in it but my server can't see it
L707[23:56:05] <CompanionCube> lol
L708[23:56:14] <dequbed> Izaya: For that
money you could travel Europe for two months.
L709[23:56:27]
<ThePiGuy24> have you configured the sides
of the server correctly?
L710[23:56:32]
<Oetjel>
yeah
L711[23:56:36] <Izaya> I'm not sure how
practical that will be for the next year or so.
L712[23:56:55]
<Oetjel> do
i have to do something to these drives or the server?
@ThePiGuy24
L713[23:57:05] <dequbed> Izaya: If
SARS-CoV-2 is a problem by August the world has bigger
problems.
L714[23:57:08]
<MGR> Can
you send a picture of the server rack?
L716[23:57:52] <Izaya> there's also a 1995
Celica for like $4k it's very tempting
L718[23:58:23]
<MGR> That
thick light blue line should be connected to left, not top
L719[23:58:31]
<MGR>
That's what side the server connects to for components
L720[23:58:41]
<MGR> As
for why it's left and not right, it's because it's from the PoV of
the server
L721[23:58:56] <dequbed> Izaya: Points
against: You don't like cars. You don't like upkeep on cars,
neither paying for it nor doing it yourself. Retirement funds i.e.
money for a reasonably computer.
L722[23:58:56]
<MGR> Oh
wait
L723[23:59:08]
<MGR> You
also need to move the terminal server into the same rack
L724[23:59:09]
<Oetjel> i
have a terminal server in a rack on top of the other one
L725[23:59:21]
<MGR>
You'll have to move it into the same rack and connect it to the
bottom as well
L726[23:59:38] <Izaya> unrelated but
L727[23:59:40]
<Oetjel>
the terminal is working fine anyhow
L728[23:59:45] <Izaya> for some reason WoL
isn't workong on my in-game servers
L729[23:59:47] <Izaya> any thoughts?
L730[23:59:51]
<MGR> Yes,
but if you apply my fix, the terminal server will not work
L731[23:59:58] <Izaya> not in a position
to debug presently, just somewhat unusual
L732[23:59:59]
<Oetjel>
aight
L733[23:59:59] <dequbed> Izaya:
Nukes?