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<Ocawesome101> Michyi: Ginkeo: the
`keydown` event returns `"keydown", keyboardAddress,
charID, keyCode`. Assuming `charID` is in the range 32-127 you can
do `string.char(charID)` to get the printable character
L3[01:36:34]
<Ocawesome101> %s/Michiyi/Michiyo/
L4[01:36:37] <MajGenRelativity> Ginkeo is
with us no longer
L5[01:36:47]
<Ocawesome101> yeah I know
L6[01:37:26]
<Ocawesome101> I'm working on a build
system for Open Kernel
L7[01:37:45] <Michiyo> Then A.) Why ping
them, and B.) I don't care :D
L8[01:37:54]
<Ocawesome101> so you can run `ocmake` in
your project dir and it'll automagically build your project
L9[01:37:58]
<Ocawesome101> It supports targets and
target dependencies and not a whole lot else
L10[01:38:03]
<Saghetti>
compiling lua?
L11[01:38:13]
<Ocawesome101> more like, proprocessing
it
L12[01:38:19]
<Ocawesome101> $s/pro/pre
L13[01:38:27]
<Ocawesome101> %s/propro/prepro
L14[01:38:28] <MichiBot>
<Ocawesome101> more like, preprocessing it
L15[01:38:34]
<Saghetti>
so like including files and minifying it into a final file
L16[01:38:38]
<Ocawesome101> yes
L17[01:38:45]
<Saghetti>
hmm
L18[01:38:50]
<Saghetti>
i wonder where i've heard that before
L19[01:38:56]
<Ocawesome101> the only minification it
actually does is removing empty lines though :P
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L21[01:40:27]
<Ocawesome101> it's made up of a couple
parts, `ocmake` which manages targets and executing commands,
`luac` which does much of the heavy lifting (`##include`s and
stuff), and `makepkg` which archives all the files in a dir into a
package compatible with OpenPM, my package manager
L23[01:42:34]
<Saghetti>
man i wonder who also coincidentally had this idea
L24[01:42:54]
<Ocawesome101> mine uh
L25[01:42:59] <Izaya> hey that was a clone
of something I did before
L26[01:43:00] <Izaya> :^)
L27[01:43:11]
<Ocawesome101> uh
L28[01:43:12] <Izaya> (and implemented much
better, use LuaComp)
L29[01:43:18]
<Ocawesome101> mine is worse, lel
L30[01:43:32]
<Ocawesome101> and
Open-Kernel-specific
L31[01:43:50] <Izaya> once you implement
the lua standard libraries luacomp will work fine
L32[01:43:57] <Izaya> then you can use
luacomp and be happy
L33[01:45:17]
<Ocawesome101> I mean, I've got most of
them except `io`
L34[01:45:25]
<Ocawesome101> `package` is implemented as
`lib`
L35[01:45:39]
<Ocawesome101> (I think I've got most of
them anyway)
L36[01:46:16] <Izaya> io is the most
important one
L37[01:46:40]
<Ocawesome101> I've got I/O, just not the
way standard Lua does it :D
L38[01:46:46] <Izaya> so you don't have
io
L39[01:46:57]
<Ocawesome101> I am seriously considering
implementing an `io` library though
L40[01:47:05]
<Ocawesome101> no, not yet anyway
L41[01:47:25]
<Ocawesome101> I've got `write`, `print`,
`read`, and `fs`
L42[01:47:39] <Izaya> Do it, io is the
library most Lua software actually needs that doesn't come with the
Lua environment in OpenComputers
L43[01:47:40]
<Ocawesome101> `fs.open` behaves for the
most part like `io.open`
L44[01:48:33]
<Ocawesome101> ok, I'll do it later
L45[01:49:00]
<Ocawesome101> then switch all my programs
over to `io.read` and `io.write` :P
L46[02:15:02] <Izaya> Any suggestions for
mods that make mobs more difficult?
L47[02:17:43]
<ThePiGuy24> techguns, set the spawn rates
to ridiculously high, and enjoy the massacre
L48[02:17:52]
<ThePiGuy24> the massacree being you
L50[02:58:54] <Izaya> ThePiGuy24: I would
but everyone complains about the nether being too hard then
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L52[03:04:27]
<The_Stargazer> Python makes me
angery
L53[03:06:56]
<The_Stargazer> Today's error is
`AttributeError: module 'yaml' has no attribute
'CSafeLoader'`
L54[03:07:53]
<ThePiGuy24> Izaya: i thought you said
"more difficult", doesnt that count :p
L55[03:11:20]
<Brisingr
Aerowing> Izaya: Epic Siege Mod
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L59[03:43:35] <MichiBot> Amanda: Inari will
be notified of this message when next seen.
L60[04:13:13]
<AdorableCatgirl> some things might depend
on io.popen
L61[04:13:20]
<AdorableCatgirl> in luacomp 1.2.0
L62[04:13:35]
<AdorableCatgirl> but that's mostly module
preload and shit
L64[04:14:07]
<AdorableCatgirl> basically
L65[04:14:30]
<AdorableCatgirl> but i'm way more
profaine and lonely
L66[04:14:43]
<AdorableCatgirl> and i don't have qt
dragon maid gf
L67[04:17:10]
<AdorableCatgirl> also minfiers wouldn't
work in lua
L68[04:18:21] <Izaya> just use my
minifier
L69[04:18:33] <Izaya> also
L70[04:18:35] <Izaya> request:
L71[04:18:46] <Izaya> --#include, but
minified before inclusion
L72[04:18:55]
<AdorableCatgirl> ah yeah
L73[04:19:11] <Izaya> then I wouldn't need
to maintain my shitty fork
L74[04:19:34]
<AdorableCatgirl> you see
L75[04:19:38]
<AdorableCatgirl> i'm a crackhead
L76[04:19:57]
<AdorableCatgirl> and i just invoke
luacomp in luacomp
L77[04:21:36]
<AdorableCatgirl> `$[[luacomp -mizaya
file.lua]]`
L78[04:23:17]
<AdorableCatgirl> Izaya: everything i do
is crack filled
L79[04:23:36] <CompanionCube> TIL that in
hoi4, the latest DLC includes the anarchist CNT-FAI...as a
'non-aligned' faction.
L80[04:23:40]
<AdorableCatgirl> like the entire state of
florida
L81[04:23:57] <Izaya> AdorableCatgirl:
crack is expensive
L82[04:24:59] <Izaya> ergo everything you
do is valuable?
L83[04:25:06]
<AdorableCatgirl> hahaha
L84[04:25:10]
<AdorableCatgirl> as if
L85[04:25:28]
<AdorableCatgirl> sorry, everything i do
is uh
L86[04:25:34]
<AdorableCatgirl> bad
L87[04:25:39]
<AdorableCatgirl> and obtuse
L88[04:25:50]
<AdorableCatgirl> and poorly
designed
L89[04:30:42]
<ThePiGuy24> free crack cocaine
download
L90[04:31:32]
<AdorableCatgirl> Izaya: haha, you can't
prove me wrong
L91[04:34:22] *
CompanionCube hopes they overhaul the mess that currently is the
non-aligned ideology above. In the game it represents democratic
finland, some potential monarchies, the portugese estado novo
dictatorship (but not franco), chiang kai shek and apparently now
an anarchist society too
L93[04:51:13]
<ThePiGuy24> all it does atm is decode the
font and then display some text
L94[04:51:29]
<ThePiGuy24> and my code is probably jank
as fuck
L95[04:51:41]
<The_Stargazer> ocvm-web soon? \
L96[04:51:43]
<The_Stargazer> 🤔
L97[04:51:48]
<ThePiGuy24> thats the plan
L98[04:52:24]
<ThePiGuy24> although replace
"soon" with "whenever i can be arsed"
L99[04:52:46]
<The_Stargazer> so
L100[04:52:53]
<The_Stargazer> ocvm-web whenever i can be
arsed?
L101[04:53:08]
<ThePiGuy24> no
L102[04:53:28]
<The_Stargazer> ik lol
L103[04:53:33]
<The_Stargazer> when you can be
arsed
L104[05:19:54] <Izaya> ~w
table.concat
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L107[05:30:24]
<Ocawesome101> Do you know what time it
is?
L108[05:30:45]
<Ocawesome101> %tonkout time!
L109[05:30:45] <MichiBot> Dagnabbit!
Ocawesome101! You beat The_Stargazer's previous record of 11
hours, 56 minutes and 16 seconds (By 3 minutes and 29 seconds)! I
hope you're happy!
L110[05:30:46] <MichiBot> Ocawesome101
has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.011 tonk
points! plus 0.01 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to
50% because stealing) Current score: 0.07175. Position #9 => #7
Need 0.00069 more points to pass Kodos!
L111[05:30:59]
<Ocawesome101> YEE HAW
L112[05:34:51]
<The_Stargazer> \o/ i fixed the shitty
python (I think)
L113[05:35:07]
<The_Stargazer> had to change all
occurences of CSafeLoader to SafeLoader and CSafeDumper to
SafeDumper
L114[05:35:29]
<Ocawesome101> %tonkleaders
L116[05:39:00]
<The_Stargazer> congrats
L117[05:40:10]
<Ocawesome101> thank you
L118[05:40:20]
<Ocawesome101> %tonk
L119[05:40:21] <MichiBot> Dagnammit!
Ocawesome101! You beat your own previous record of <0 (By 9
minutes and 35 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L120[05:40:22] <MichiBot> Ocawesome101's
new record is 9 minutes and 35 seconds! No points gained for
stealing from yourself. (Lost out on 0.00016)
L121[05:40:29]
<Ocawesome101> womp womp
L122[05:40:54]
<Ocawesome101> oh well, I'll get to #1
eventually
L123[06:21:08] <CompanionCube> We'll see
about keeping #1, though :)
L124[06:21:24]
<Ocawesome101> well, go on, tonk
then
L125[06:21:57] <CompanionCube> i have
enough of a lead
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L127[06:23:31] <Ocawesome101> true
L128[06:23:31] <CompanionCube> it's not
like i have specific numerical targets to hit like last year
L129[06:23:49] <Ocawesome101> was your
target for last year 1.0?
L130[06:23:59] <CompanionCube> no, it was
2.0
L131[06:24:26] <Ocawesome101> ah
L132[06:24:26] <CompanionCube> the final
objective was to cross the 2.0 threshold on December 25.
L133[06:24:33] <Ocawesome101> ah.
L134[06:24:33] <CompanionCube> it was
achieved.
L135[06:24:40] <Ocawesome101> Christmas
present to yourself? :P
L136[06:24:48] <CompanionCube>
Exactly.
L137[06:25:14] <CompanionCube> Kodos beat
me to 1.0, though
L138[06:25:37] <Ocawesome101> oh well,
can't have everything in life
L139[06:28:37] <Ocawesome101> %tonk
L140[06:28:37] <MichiBot> Fopdoodle!
Ocawesome101! You beat your own previous record of 9 minutes and
35 seconds (By 38 minutes and 41 seconds)! I hope you're
happy!
L141[06:28:38] <MichiBot> Ocawesome101's
new record is 48 minutes and 16 seconds! No points gained for
stealing from yourself. (Lost out on 0.00064)
L142[06:29:45] <Ocawesome101> what purpose
does a read buffer serve? Does it store the last 512 bytes read or
something like that?
L143[06:37:41] <Izaya> usually, buffer
will read ahead
L144[06:38:08] <Izaya> so if you read(4)
it'll read(2048) and then the next 512 read(4)s only need to hit
memory rather than the disk
L145[06:38:20] <Ocawesome101> ah ok
L146[06:38:26] <Ocawesome101> good to
know, thank you
L147[06:40:56] <Izaya> addon request
L148[06:41:03] <Izaya> "How to
install OpenOS on a dead human"
L149[06:41:13] <Ocawesome101> :O
L150[06:41:17] <Izaya> basically "How
to install Linux on a dead badger," but for zombies.
L151[06:42:51] <Ocawesome101> does
openedHandle:flush() flush read *and* write buffers or just write
buffers?
L152[06:43:10] <Izaya> unsure
L153[06:43:12] <Izaya> check the
implementation
L154[06:43:31] <Ocawesome101> the openos
one or the PUC Lua one?
L155[06:43:37] <Izaya> either
L156[06:43:41] <Izaya> though the PUC one
is probably in C
L157[06:44:13] <Ocawesome101> the OpenOS
one is about 5 different files, but I'll look again
L158[06:45:21] <Ocawesome101> the OpenOS
implementation seems to only flush the write buffer
L160[06:50:07] <Izaya> No longer makes me
want to die.
L161[06:50:55] <Ocawesome101> good
:D
L162[06:51:05] <Ocawesome101> any thoughts
on improvement?
L163[06:51:15] <Izaya> a fs.segments()
function is always useful
L164[06:51:18] <Izaya> (splits path into a
table)
L165[06:51:27] <Izaya> and then for
cleanPath you can use table.concat on fs.segments(path)
L166[06:51:46] <Ocawesome101> you can do
string.tokenize("/", path) to split into segments
L167[06:56:25] <Izaya> well, that's a lot
easier to turn into a clean path, no? :p
L168[06:56:59] <Ocawesome101> what is, the
string.tokenize?
L169[06:57:26] <Izaya> yeah
L170[06:58:12] <Ocawesome101> I mean,
cleanPath basically does that
L171[06:59:13] *
Izaya shrugs
L172[06:59:20] <Izaya> would just mean a
more compact implementation
L173[07:00:01] <Ocawesome101> meh, the way
I do it forces it to become an absolute path, which is nice given
how the FS API works
L174[07:00:36] <Izaya> hm, fair
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L176[07:01:04] <Ocawesome101> hello
Ariri
L177[07:01:08] <Ariri> o/
L178[07:01:14] <Izaya> unrelated but
Cooking for Blockheads adds a really nice rack for, for example,
your floppy disks
L180[07:02:14] <Ocawesome101> also
unrelated, but I made a stupid-simple tar/cpio-ish archive format
(currently Open Kernel only, but should *not* be hard to
port)
L181[07:02:22]
<Saghetti>
%tonk
L182[07:02:22] <MichiBot> I'm sorry
Saghetti, you were not able to beat Ocawesome101's record of 48
minutes and 16 seconds this time. 33 minutes and 44 seconds were
wasted! Missed by 14 minutes and 32 seconds!
L183[07:02:39] <Izaya> bad
Ocawesome101
L184[07:02:39] <Ocawesome101> womp
womp
L185[07:02:43] <Izaya> we have enough of
those already
L186[07:02:45] <Ocawesome101> >:D
L187[07:03:01] *
Izaya says, loading PsychOS off a tape from a bespoke archive
format
L188[07:03:32] <Ocawesome101> lol
L189[07:03:52] <Ocawesome101> it's so
simple you could easily type one by hand
L190[07:04:41] <Izaya> the one I did for
my tape bootloader is pretty much just 2 bytes name length, name, 4
bytes file length, file contents, rinse and repeat till you run
into a file with a zero-length name
L191[07:05:00] <Ocawesome101> I'm
literally just doing plaintext lol
L192[07:06:39] <Izaya> how plaintext
L193[07:08:21] <Ocawesome101> as in, it's
::ACVDATA type=<FILE/DIR>,path=<PATH>, then the file
data, then more ::ACVDATAs til it hits EOF
L194[07:08:35] <Ocawesome101> a very
terrible way of doing it, but it was easy /shrug
L195[07:08:52] <Izaya> well that's kinda
annoying
L196[07:09:04] <Izaya> inconvenient to
decode, too
L199[07:12:08] <Izaya> depending on mkdir
being a command is a little iffy, but it lets it run on both on
OpenOS and any worthwhile real-world OS
L200[07:12:15] <Ocawesome101> that's....
tiny
L201[07:12:27] <Ocawesome101> and yeah, if
mkdir isn't a command your OS isn't worth using
L203[07:12:48] <Izaya> that's the
extremely dumb archive creation program
L204[07:13:14] <Izaya> it doesn't recurse
through directories in the name of portability so you have to do
lua mkarchive.lua $(find whatever -type f)
L205[07:13:25] <Ocawesome101> ah
L206[07:13:26] <Ocawesome101> see
L207[07:13:28] <Izaya> I wrote an OpenOS
version that does but technicalities
L208[07:13:33] <Ocawesome101> mine
recurses into directories
L209[07:13:43] <Izaya> can't do that with
the Lua standard library
L210[07:13:49] <Izaya> and I needed a
program I could run out-of-game
L211[07:13:55] <Ocawesome101> ah,
fair
L212[07:14:15] <Izaya> so I just went with
a really dumb one that will work everywhere
L213[07:14:17] <Izaya> :D
L214[07:14:33] <Ocawesome101> :P
L215[07:14:46] <Ocawesome101> mine trades
that for being slightly smarter
L216[07:14:53] <Izaya> well like I
said
L217[07:15:03] <Izaya> I don't trade that,
that's just the Linux version
L218[07:15:25] <Izaya> (or anything else
version, really)
L219[07:15:32] <Izaya> I could do one
based on LuaFileSystem but eh
L220[07:15:38] <Izaya> feeding it the
output of find is easier
L221[07:15:55] <Ocawesome101> fair
L222[07:16:11] <Izaya> and probably
faster, not that it matters
L223[07:17:13] <Izaya> hmhm
L224[07:17:31] <Izaya> what I should do is
add support for lzss streams
L225[07:17:37] <Izaya> so it can r/w
compressed archives natively
L226[07:17:40] <Izaya> that'd be
nice
L227[07:17:59] <Ocawesome101> yea thatd be
cool
L228[07:18:09] <Izaya> or export the
function as part of a library
L229[07:18:19] <Izaya> like, give it a
stream object and a destination
L230[07:18:38] <Izaya> and then you give
it a compressed stream object
L231[07:23:20] <Ocawesome101> well, I'ma
sign off
L232[07:23:34] <Ocawesome101> night random
interent strangers
L233[07:23:44] <Ocawesome101>
s/interent/internet
L234[07:23:46] <MichiBot>
<Ocawesome101> night random internet strangers
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L238[08:18:15]
<The_Stargazer> that's an oxymoron
L239[08:23:30]
<ThePiGuy24> its not bad compared to
so.e
L240[08:23:47]
<ThePiGuy24> %s/so.e/some
L241[08:23:47] <MichiBot>
<ThePiGuy24> its not bad compared to some
L242[08:28:05]
<The_Stargazer> yeah but
L243[08:28:07]
<The_Stargazer> lua master race
L244[08:28:26]
<The_Stargazer> lua is way more
lightweight
L245[08:28:31]
<The_Stargazer> its only like
L246[08:28:34]
<The_Stargazer> less than 500kb
L247[08:38:47]
<Forecaster> %tonk
L248[08:38:47] <MichiBot> Dad-Sizzle!
Forecaster! You beat Ocawesome101's previous record of 48 minutes
and 16 seconds (By 48 minutes and 8 seconds)! I hope you're
happy!
L249[08:38:48] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new
record is 1 hour, 36 minutes and 24 seconds! Forecaster also gained
0.0008 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #4. Need 0.04438
more points to pass simon816!
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L251[09:52:58]
<The_Stargazer> holy shit
L252[09:53:02]
<The_Stargazer> my random copier is
actually good
L253[09:53:10]
<The_Stargazer> it copies files using
/dev/urandom
L254[09:55:59]
<The_Stargazer> it's good for small
amounts of text
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L257[10:02:48]
<The_Stargazer> don't use it on large data
lol
L258[10:02:54]
<The_Stargazer> it's taking like five
minutes to copy 1mb
L259[10:03:10] <Izaya> random
copier?
L260[10:03:21]
<The_Stargazer> yeah
L261[10:03:24]
<The_Stargazer> made it for fun
L262[10:03:29]
<The_Stargazer> just one of my crazy
ideas
L263[10:03:54]
<The_Stargazer> it also supports
math.random() for non-linux people
L264[10:04:00]
<The_Stargazer> does mac have
/dev/urandom?
L265[10:04:08] <Izaya> but what is
it
L266[10:04:13]
<The_Stargazer> it copies files
L267[10:04:16]
<The_Stargazer> by generating random
bytes
L268[10:04:22]
<The_Stargazer> seeing if that byte
matches what was just read
L269[10:04:27]
<The_Stargazer> if not, generate
another
L270[10:04:29]
<The_Stargazer> if match, write
L271[10:04:31]
<The_Stargazer> repeat.
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L273[10:05:06]
<The_Stargazer> could be used for disk
stress tests maybe?
L274[10:07:32]
<The_Stargazer> took nearly 12 minutes to
write 1mb
L275[10:08:05]
<The_Stargazer> works tho
L276[10:08:10]
<The_Stargazer> no diff between `input`
and `output`
L277[10:17:35] <Lizzian> %tonk
L278[10:17:36] <MichiBot> Dagnammit!
Lizzian! You beat Forecaster's previous record of 1 hour, 36
minutes and 24 seconds (By 2 minutes and 24 seconds)! I hope you're
happy!
L279[10:17:37] <MichiBot> Lizzian's new
record is 1 hour, 38 minutes and 49 seconds! Lizzian also gained
0.00008 (0.00004 x 2) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position
#2. Need 0.03287 more points to pass CompanionCube!
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L281[10:24:16] <Inari> Nep
L282[10:24:59] <Inari> I mean
L283[10:25:09] <Inari> That cat is clearly
held in that hold where they go immobile
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L287[11:17:18]
<The_Stargazer> Inari: where they're
picked up by the neck?
L288[11:22:43] <Inari> @The_Stargazer
yeah
L290[11:22:59] <Inari> You see it being
kinda upright and you see an arm behidn it when the camera swings a
bit
L291[11:23:07] <Inari> PLus
L292[11:23:16] <Inari> I'd honestly be
concerned that cat may be havin ga seizure if not for that :P
L293[11:24:40]
<The_Stargazer> Yeah iirc cats do
that
L294[11:24:50]
<The_Stargazer> it's a natural reflex so
their mother could carry them
L295[11:24:51]
<The_Stargazer> i think
L296[11:25:05]
<The_Stargazer> Poor thing
L297[12:07:46] <Amanda> I hadn't noticed
that when I sent it to you, Inari, thought it was standing on its
hind legs
L298[12:18:25] <Elfi> The owner probably
picked the cat up because it was trying to monch on the pizza to
begin with
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<The_Stargazer> yeah
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<ThePiGuy24> %tonk
L303[12:36:24] <MichiBot> Consarn it!
ThePiGuy24! You beat Lizzian's previous record of 1 hour, 38
minutes and 49 seconds (By 39 minutes and 58 seconds)! I hope
you're happy!
L304[12:36:25] <MichiBot> ThePiGuy24's new
record is 2 hours, 18 minutes and 47 seconds! ThePiGuy24 also
gained 0.00134 (0.00067 x 2) tonk points for stealing the tonk.
Position #9. Need 0.0027 more points to pass The_Stargazer!
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L306[13:00:40] <dequbed> Izaya: Don't you
have my modpack? That has like 4 or 5 mods to make mobs actually
dangerous
L307[13:11:06]
<Nath_SoM>
i just had a stupid idea
L308[13:11:49]
<Nath_SoM>
do you guys remember these old msdos viruses? why not make one for
openos with the cool payloads, not just removing system
files?
L310[13:12:46]
<Nath_SoM>
?
L311[13:12:55] <Izaya> I made a Serene
Seasons detector hooked up to a microcontroller, then exported the
component over RPC
L312[13:13:06]
<Nath_SoM>
oh
L313[13:13:41]
<MGR> Nath,
it'd have to be some sort of trojan horse program to my
knowledge
L314[13:13:49]
<MGR> You'd
have to trick end users into installing it
L315[13:14:05] <Izaya> and then y'know,
wrote a program to parse the inputs that acts as if the redstone
block/card was directly attached :3
L316[13:14:16]
<Nath_SoM>
just basic "video.mp4 but it aint an mp4" trick, doubt it
would work lmao
L317[13:14:28]
<Nath_SoM>
obv with another extension
L318[13:14:31]
<Nath_SoM>
not mp4
L319[13:14:52]
<MGR> Yeah,
that could work 🙂
L320[13:16:02]
<Nath_SoM>
but i wouldnt release it, because theres always that guy that will
use it on someone on a server, instead warn that its a trojan and
give the user a choice to run it or not
L321[13:16:15]
<Nath_SoM>
plus the oc forums dont seem to allow malware
L322[13:16:25]
<MGR> The
OC forums do not allow malware, that is correct
L323[13:16:39]
<Nath_SoM>
so maybe ill just keep it on my server
L324[13:32:20] *
Lizzian wonders how easy it would be to learn how to weld / make
her own desk from scratch
L325[13:38:09]
<The_Stargazer> yeah i wish the newer
viruses did cool shit
L326[13:38:12]
<The_Stargazer> like the old ones
L327[13:43:33] <dequbed> Lizzian: Pretty
easy all things considered. Why weld a desk though?
L328[13:45:25] <Lizzian> well, was
thinking about possibly making one out of metal, or at the very
least the frame for it
L329[13:45:58] <Lizzian> probably wont do
it whilst i'm still living at my dad's, but would be a cool idea to
try and make something that was really sturdy
L330[13:46:41] <dequbed> And heavy as
fuck
L331[13:47:57] <dequbed> But sure go for
it. Welding by itself is pretty easy, welding *well* is the hard
part. But you're not selling a product that other people are
trusting their life on so that's not an issue either.
L332[13:48:20] <Izaya> man the best desk I
have
L333[13:48:28] <Izaya> is 8 pieces of
square metal pipe
L334[13:48:34] <Izaya> with a front door
on top
L335[13:48:51] <dequbed> Yeah pretty much.
Add a crossbrace and it becomes pretty solid
L336[13:49:30] <dequbed> Get yourself an
angle grinder, a few meters of square tubing and a MIG welder and
just go ham.
L337[14:40:19]
<AdorableCatgirl> a group of foxes is
called a screech
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<Ocawesome101> %tonkout
L344[15:27:13] <MichiBot> Fopdoodle!
Ocawesome101! You beat ThePiGuy24's previous record of 2 hours,
18 minutes and 47 seconds (By 32 minutes and 2 seconds)! I hope
you're happy!
L345[15:27:14] <MichiBot> Ocawesome101
has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.002 tonk
points! plus 0.001 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to
50% because stealing) Current score: 0.07525. Position #7 => #6
Need 0.07144 more points to pass DaComputerNerd!
L346[15:27:36]
<Ocawesome101> Yay
L347[15:27:51] <Lizzian> %tonk
L348[15:27:51] <MichiBot> Aw jeez!
Lizzian! You beat Ocawesome101's previous record of <0 (By 38
seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L349[15:27:52] <MichiBot> Lizzian's new
record is 38 seconds! Lizzian also gained 0.00001 tonk points for
stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need 0.03286 more points to pass
CompanionCube!
L350[15:28:27]
<Ocawesome101> %tonk
L351[15:28:42]
<Ocawesome101> Dangit, forgot there was a
timeout
L352[15:29:43]
<Ocawesome101> I wanna make a virus for
OC-DOS now
L353[15:30:20]
<Ocawesome101> Except I’ll be in Michigan
until Sunday afternoon :(
L354[15:40:58] <Izaya> >write
library
L355[15:41:02] <Izaya> >export
functions over rpc
L356[15:41:13] <Izaya> >write wrapper
library on other machines that just returns the RPC proxy
L357[15:41:16] <Izaya> >???
L358[15:41:18] <Izaya> >profit
L359[15:42:36] <Lizzian>
s/\?\?\?/cake
L360[15:42:37] <MichiBot> <Izaya>
>cake
L361[15:44:05] <Izaya> in unrelated
news
L362[15:44:25] <Izaya> it looks like I'm
going to be the centre of mail routing on the server I'm playing on
presently
L363[15:44:47] <Izaya> thoughts on
automating item routing? going to be using magic mirrors to get the
items to/from my base
L364[15:44:59] <dequbed> I just filled my
caldav folder with trash q.q
L365[15:47:01]
<The_Stargazer> Inari: so I discovered
that with a website I can turn any set of words into neps
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L367[16:36:13] <Heller> здрасте
L368[16:36:26] <Heller> Я одиин тут пишу с
OpenComputers?
L369[16:36:45] <Heller> Походу я тут
вообще один...
L370[16:37:11]
<The_Stargazer> english, please
L371[16:37:22] <Heller> oh
L372[16:37:28] <Heller> sorry
L373[16:37:33]
<The_Stargazer> nah it's fine
L374[16:37:46]
<The_Stargazer> it's just that most of us
only speak english haha (i think?)
L375[16:38:09] <Heller> I thinks its
multi-language chanel
L376[16:38:16]
<MGR> It's
english
L377[16:38:29]
<MGR>
People here may speak other languages, but the primary support
language is English
L378[16:38:45] <Heller> ok
L379[16:38:56] <Heller> I understand
L380[16:40:05]
<MGR> Are
you connecting from inside MC?
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L383[17:02:40]
<Forecaster> Finally home!
L384[17:03:08]
<Forecaster> I've slept in my own bed once
this week
L385[17:03:08]
<The_Stargazer> %tonk
L386[17:03:09] <MichiBot> Jeepers!
The_Stargazer! You beat Lizzian's previous record of 38 seconds
(By 1 hour, 34 minutes and 38 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L387[17:03:10] <MichiBot> The_Stargazer's
new record is 1 hour, 35 minutes and 17 seconds! The_Stargazer also
gained 0.00158 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #8. Need
0.01925 more points to pass Kodos!
L388[17:03:36]
<The_Stargazer> travelling or smthn?
L389[17:03:56]
<Forecaster> Work
L390[17:04:39]
<The_Stargazer> ah
L391[17:05:51]
<Forecaster> I've spent a total of 15
hours this in a car this week
L392[17:06:03]
<The_Stargazer> That's a long time
L393[17:07:02]
<Forecaster> Almost 30% of on-clock
time
L394[17:07:18]
<The_Stargazer> on-clock time?
L395[17:08:03]
<Forecaster> Work time then
L396[17:08:21]
<The_Stargazer> Ah
L397[17:42:45]
<AdorableCatgirl> .
L399[17:43:55] <Inari> Amanda: I see
L400[17:44:02]
<AdorableCatgirl> hi izaya
L401[17:44:07] <Inari> @The_Stargazer what
site?
L402[17:44:11] <Izaya> hi
L403[17:44:22] <Izaya> I suspect weechat
got disconnected from ZNC, how inconvenient
L404[17:45:10]
<The_Stargazer> Inari: cryptii
L405[17:45:26]
<The_Stargazer> using the tap code
L406[17:45:39] <Inari> heh
L407[17:46:28]
<The_Stargazer> with my settings, the
string `neptunia <3` becomes ```
L408[17:46:29]
<The_Stargazer> Nep! Nep! Nep! Nepu? Nep!
Nep! Nep! Nep. Nep! Nepu? Nep! Nep! Nep! Nep! Nep! Nep. Nep! Nep!
Nep! Nepu? Nep! Nep! Nep! Nep! Nep! Nep. Nep! Nep! Nep! Nep! Nepu?
Nep! Nep! Nep! Nep! Nep. Nep! Nep! Nep! Nep! Nepu? Nep! Nep! Nep!
Nep! Nep! Nep. Nep! Nep! Nep! Nepu? Nep! Nep! Nep! Nep. Nep! Nep!
Nepu? Nep! Nep! Nep! Nep! Nep. Nep! Nepu? Nep!
L409[17:46:29]
<The_Stargazer> ```
L410[17:46:47]
<The_Stargazer> can't encode special
characters though it seems
L411[17:46:52]
<The_Stargazer> so it just gets translated
to `neptunia`
L412[17:47:22] <Inari> And those settings
are?
L413[17:47:46]
<The_Stargazer> tap = `Nep! `, group =
`Nepu? `, letter = `Nep. `
L414[17:48:08] <Inari> hrm
L415[17:48:26] <Inari> Just results in
"faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa" for me haha
L416[17:48:31]
<The_Stargazer> odd.
L417[17:49:03] <Inari> Oh
L418[17:49:05] <Inari> I did it
wrong
L419[17:49:06] <Inari> Ignroe me
L420[17:49:12]
<The_Stargazer> oh yeah I see the
issue
L421[17:50:32]
<The_Stargazer> also: wonder when the next
main series nep game will be
L422[17:51:17] <Inari> I can't get it to
work
L423[17:51:25] <Inari> I encode
something
L424[17:51:30] <Inari> But then when I try
to decode it it complaisn
L425[17:51:37]
<The_Stargazer> how does it complain
L426[17:52:45] <Inari> "Reached
unexpected end of content. The last set of Polybius square
coordinates is incomplete."
L427[17:53:07]
<The_Stargazer> what are you trying to
decode?
L428[17:53:28] <Inari> Meow
MeowMeowMewMeowMeowMeow MeowMeowMeowMeowMewMeowMeowMeow
MeowMeowMeowMeowMewMeow MeowMeowMewMeowMeowMeowMeow
MeowMeowMeow
L429[17:53:34]
<The_Stargazer> that usually happens when
one of the characters is out of place
L430[17:53:37]
<The_Stargazer> with what settings?
L431[17:54:17] <Inari> tap is TMeow"
group is " ", letter is "Mew"
L432[17:54:45]
<The_Stargazer> and the input is?
L433[17:54:52] <Inari> Boobs
L434[17:55:06]
<The_Stargazer> Odd
L435[17:55:08]
<The_Stargazer> Hmm
L436[17:56:10]
<The_Stargazer> brb
L437[17:56:13] <Inari> Doesn't seem to
work for me with any settings
L438[17:57:56]
<The_Stargazer> I think maybe you need
more variation in your code?
L439[17:58:18] <Inari> I tried with
a/b/c
L440[17:58:47]
<The_Stargazer> maybe it doesn't work with
some words?
L441[17:58:51]
<The_Stargazer> gimme a sec
L442[17:59:12]
<The_Stargazer> works fine with
`sdgedfhhg`
L443[17:59:23]
<The_Stargazer> which is just me hitting
random keys
L444[17:59:46] <Inari> weird
L445[18:01:55]
<The_Stargazer> maybe it can't start with
some letters?
L446[18:02:25]
<The_Stargazer> if I do `hboobs` it works
fine..
L447[18:03:00]
<The_Stargazer> also: i may have a couple
of (nsfw) subreddits you might be interested in
L448[18:03:10] <Inari> Well I'm very
picky
L449[18:03:12] <Inari> But I guesss
L450[18:03:29]
<The_Stargazer> they're both
neptunia
L451[18:03:46]
<The_Stargazer> hang on, give me a
minute
L452[18:03:58] <Inari> Sadly Neptunia has
a severe lack of males, but migth still be nice
L453[18:04:01]
<The_Stargazer> mind if I dm you them on
discord?
L454[18:04:02]
<The_Stargazer> don't really wanna post
names of nsfw subreddits here
L455[18:04:06]
<The_Stargazer> Yeah it does
L456[18:04:09]
<The_Stargazer> Still
L457[18:04:13] <Inari> I mean, thats what
I expected, so, yes
L458[18:04:16]
<The_Stargazer> aight
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L462[18:36:50] <Lizzian> %tonk
L463[18:36:51] <MichiBot> I'm sorry
Lizzian, you were not able to beat The_Stargazer's record of 1
hour, 35 minutes and 17 seconds this time. 1 hour, 33 minutes and
42 seconds were wasted! Missed by 1 minute and 34 seconds!
L464[18:37:08] <Lizzian> oops, should have
scrolled up
L465[18:37:28]
<The_Stargazer> pretty good for a blind
tonk tho
L466[18:40:00]
<Ocawesome101> Dangit
L467[18:40:07]
<Ocawesome101> I was gonna do that
L468[18:49:32] <asie> a blonk
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L472[18:59:18]
<Forecaster> %sip
L473[18:59:18] <MichiBot> You drink a ripe
pearlpeas potion (New!). Forecaster grows slightly until their
next sip of water.
L474[19:26:52]
<DaComputerNerd> %sip
L475[19:26:53] <MichiBot> You drink a
viscous yellow potion (New!). DaComputerNerd's toes turn invisible
for 9 moons.
L476[19:29:41] <Elfi> I'm still just like
"0 second blind tonk record, hell yeaaa"
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<ThePiGuy24> %tonk
L479[20:18:56] <MichiBot> Aw jeez!
ThePiGuy24! You beat The_Stargazer's previous record of 1 hour,
35 minutes and 17 seconds (By 6 minutes and 47 seconds)! I hope
you're happy!
L480[20:18:57] <MichiBot> ThePiGuy24's new
record is 1 hour, 42 minutes and 5 seconds! ThePiGuy24 also gained
0.00022 (0.00011 x 2) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position
#9. Need 0.00406 more points to pass The_Stargazer!
L481[20:19:31] <Unimate> j.a.r.v.i.s
L482[20:19:41] <Unimate> logout
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L485[20:34:53] <Ghost> Ghost
L486[20:35:05] <Ghost> asd
L487[20:35:16] -Ghost- Ghost password
L488[20:35:21] <CompanionCube> what
L489[20:35:22] -Ghost- 1234
L490[20:35:39] -Ghost- Ghost password
12345
L491[20:35:59] <CompanionCube> why are you
noticing me
L492[20:36:36] <Ghost> Does This Have any
Thing
L493[20:36:44] <CompanionCube> what
thing?
L494[20:36:44] <Ghost> with drones ?
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L497[20:42:48] <Elfi> They were noticing
the whole channel
L498[20:42:50] <Elfi> Pffft
L499[20:42:52] <Elfi> Wow.
L500[20:46:46] <Michiyo> lol yeah
L501[20:47:40] <Elfi> I guess that's one
point against legacy services.
L502[21:02:30]
<AvP>
anyone know if there is an easy way to convert decimal to binary in
open computers ( I am working on an 8 bit ALU adder and am going to
write an oc code to process it )
L503[21:17:07]
<Bob> bit
ops
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L506[21:32:21]
<Bob>
@AvP
L508[21:34:59]
<Bob> is
this what you wanted ?
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L511[22:32:02]
<AvP>
pretty much thanks
L512[22:32:49]
<AvP> Also
I can have multiple redstone io's connected to the same pc
right?
L513[22:32:59]
<Forecaster> yes
L514[22:34:13]
<AvP> How
can I call on them seperately
L515[22:34:15]
<AvP> How
can I call on them seperately? [Edited]
L516[22:34:25]
<Forecaster> ~oc component
L519[22:34:47]
<Forecaster> says there
L520[22:34:53]
<AvP> thank
you
L521[22:35:45]
<DaComputerNerd> proxy is a powerful
function
L522[22:36:14]
<Forecaster> proxy is the powerhouse of
the cell
L523[22:36:36]
<Saghetti>
it produces ATP
L524[22:37:01]
<Saghetti>
component.proxy(component.list("gpu")())
L525[22:37:06]
<Saghetti>
> ATP
L526[22:37:56]
<AvP> That
is a very interesting way the oc devs chose to do this
L527[22:37:58]
<AvP> That
is a very interesting way the oc devs chose to do this.
[Edited]
L528[22:53:36]
<20kdc>
%tonk
L529[22:53:36] <MichiBot> Sard! 20kdc!
You beat ThePiGuy24's previous record of 1 hour, 42 minutes and 5
seconds (By 52 minutes and 35 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L530[22:53:37] <MichiBot> 20kdc's new
record is 2 hours, 34 minutes and 40 seconds! 20kdc also gained
0.00176 (0.00088 x 2) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position
#17 => #15. Need 0.00072 more points to pass SquidDev!
L531[23:19:31]
<Kristopher38> I remember testing my
16-byte memory modules done as projectred's ICs with OC
L532[23:20:37]
<Kristopher38> I crafted 16 different
modules (each activated for a different address) for a total of 256
bytes
L533[23:22:33]
<Kristopher38> iirc I managed to get them
to work and then I started working on an ALU but quickly gave up
since crossing wires are a pain when designing
L534[23:22:44]
<AvP> yeah
that makes sense
L535[23:22:45]
<Kristopher38> and you have to think about
compressing the design
L536[23:23:12]
<AvP> Yep
that was something I ran into with my 8 bit design
L537[23:23:17]
<Kristopher38> maybe i'll start working on
it again sometime 🤔
L538[23:23:36]
<Kristopher38> @AvP are you doing this
with vanilla redstone or with some mod?
L539[23:23:47]
<AvP>
project red ic
L540[23:24:46]
<AvP> same
as you
L541[23:25:03]
<Kristopher38> oh nice! I wish I knew
where my save was so I could share my testing scripts with
you
L542[23:26:04]
<AvP> if
you find it lmk
L543[23:26:45]
<AvP> this
is what I have so far btw
L545[23:27:03]
<AvP> it
just adds
L546[23:28:02]
<AvP> I
mostly wanted to make it as a proof of concept for a school
multigenre essay on computers I am working on.
L547[23:28:20]
<AvP> it
just add two 8 bit numbers [Edited]
L548[23:28:27]
<AvP> it
just adds two 8 bit numbers [Edited]
L550[23:29:47]
<AvP> I
just have to figure out how I want the coding portion to go
now
L552[23:31:42]
<Kristopher38> iirc it's an earlier
version, had to make some modifications to it later
L553[23:32:37]
<Kristopher38> 2 rows, 8 bytes each, and
address decoder at the bottom
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L555[23:36:22]
<AvP> Wow
thats quite a bit more complex than what I am messing with. 😄
L556[23:36:49] <dequbed> ... I remember
trying to build an ALU on a breadboard based on my dad's thesis,
and nowadays kids are building ALUs with logic in game. It's
honestly pretty awesome.
L557[23:37:29]
<Kristopher38> I ran into a technical
problem when designing this actually, because this was all on done
on a server
L558[23:37:44]
<Kristopher38> projectred's IC workbench
is so badly written
L559[23:38:07]
<Kristopher38> after each modification to
a tile it recalculates all logic
L560[23:38:20] <dequbed> Honestly, when's
somebody going to build a HDL for P:R IC?
L561[23:38:25]
<Kristopher38> so imagine when you've got
lots of components on a 64x64 schematic
L562[23:38:53]
<Kristopher38> so it was lagging
immensely
L563[23:39:05]
<Kristopher38> and at some point it
started crashing the server
L564[23:39:08]
<AvP> makes
sense
L565[23:39:20]
<AvP> how
much ram did you have
L566[23:39:25]
<Kristopher38> because recalculating all
that stuff took too many ticks
L567[23:40:12]
<Kristopher38> idk about the server that
was running on but honestly that wouldn't matter much, it's about
time complexity of that algorithm used
L568[23:40:26]
<Kristopher38> to recalculate all stuff on
a schematic
L569[23:41:08]
<AvP> oh
ok
L570[23:41:56]
<Kristopher38> `java.lang.Error:
ServerHangWatchdog detected that a single server tick took 60.00
seconds (should be max 0.05)`
L571[23:42:28]
<Kristopher38> that's what this
caused
L572[23:43:05]
<AvP> holy
crap thats a ton of lag
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L574[23:43:18]
<AvP> 60
seconds XD
L576[23:49:34]
<Kristopher38> and it's badly written
because globals
L577[23:50:48]
<Kristopher38> but essentialy
con<Something> is the redstone controller, named after its
intended purpose when testing the memory module
L578[23:52:09]
<Kristopher38> and two helper functions,
one to convert a number into a table of bits for setting bundled
output and other to converting that table back to a number
L579[23:52:22]
<Kristopher38> and two helper functions,
one to convert a number into a table of bits for setting bundled
output and other to convert that table back to a number
[Edited]
L581[23:59:37]
<Kristopher38> it'd write selected range
of memory locations with random numbers and store them for later
comparison, so it would then read them to check if they were
written to memory properly