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L6[00:32:37] <AdorableCatgirl> so
L7[00:33:14] <Amanda> OS
L8[00:33:59] 
<Zef>
OhS
<Zef>
OhSL9[00:35:11] <AdorableCatgirl> i've finally
got the fun stuff with zlan 3.0
L10[00:35:16] <AdorableCatgirl> written
out
L11[01:07:12] <BohemianHacks> It now auto-downloads
catgirl porn until the disk is full?
<BohemianHacks> It now auto-downloads
catgirl porn until the disk is full?L12[01:13:10] <AdorableCatgirl> what in the
everliving name of fuck
L13[01:15:22] <Zef> ikr
it should be gay
<Zef> ikr
it should be gayL14[01:18:33] <Kristopher38> I wonder if anybody
bothered to write a virus and then distribute it somehow
<Kristopher38> I wonder if anybody
bothered to write a virus and then distribute it somehowL15[01:18:46] <Zef> One
second
<Zef> One
secondL16[01:19:02] <Kristopher38> :GWchadThinkeyes:
<Kristopher38> :GWchadThinkeyes:L18[01:20:57] <Kristopher38> Not that I considered it as
a viable way of distributing it
<Kristopher38> Not that I considered it as
a viable way of distributing itL19[01:21:23] <Kristopher38> I meant more like in the
very early days of the arpanet
<Kristopher38> I meant more like in the
very early days of the arpanetL20[01:22:40] <Kristopher38> You would try to spread
your malware through the network
<Kristopher38> You would try to spread
your malware through the networkL21[01:23:00] <Kristopher38> As in, inside of
minecraft
<Kristopher38> As in, inside of
minecraftL22[01:23:25] <Kristopher38> On a multiplayer
server
<Kristopher38> On a multiplayer
serverL23[01:25:27] <Zef>
That's not really possible unless those computers are specifically
told to save and run any signals it received as a program
<Zef>
That's not really possible unless those computers are specifically
told to save and run any signals it received as a programL24[01:27:06] <Kristopher38> You're right
<Kristopher38> You're rightL25[01:29:05] <AdorableCatgirl> i mean,
once i get zlan finished
L26[01:29:18] <BohemianHacks> @Zef i thought the trap
part of catgirl porn was implied?
<BohemianHacks> @Zef i thought the trap
part of catgirl porn was implied?L27[01:29:20] <AdorableCatgirl> it would
technically be possible to spread malware over it?
L28[01:29:24] <Kristopher38> Or if some badly network
service running is able to save arbitrary data to arbitrary files,
that would work as well
<Kristopher38> Or if some badly network
service running is able to save arbitrary data to arbitrary files,
that would work as wellL29[01:29:41] <AdorableCatgirl> i mean part
of the zlan spec is a crc32 checksum
L30[01:29:51] <AdorableCatgirl> there's
also extra metadata
L31[01:29:57] <AdorableCatgirl> so one
could have say
L32[01:30:07] <AdorableCatgirl> an MD5,
SHA-2, or another type of checksum
L33[01:30:20] <Kristopher38> @AdorableCatgirl it's about
whether people would use your software
<Kristopher38> @AdorableCatgirl it's about
whether people would use your softwareL34[01:30:22] <AdorableCatgirl> i'm working
on my own hash based on ICE but w/e
L35[01:31:00] <AdorableCatgirl> zlan 3.0 is
to be included with Zorya NEO's full release
L36[01:31:13] <AdorableCatgirl> but it's
supposed to be disabled on boot sooo
L37[01:31:15] <Kristopher38> You'd want to spread to as
many machines as possible
<Kristopher38> You'd want to spread to as
many machines as possibleL38[01:31:16] <BohemianHacks> the most realistic virus
scenario for OC is via floppy autoruns
<BohemianHacks> the most realistic virus
scenario for OC is via floppy autorunsL39[01:31:41] <Kristopher38> Do floppies have
autoruns?
<Kristopher38> Do floppies have
autoruns?L40[01:32:06] <BohemianHacks> yeah
<BohemianHacks> yeahL41[01:32:09] <Kristopher38> Oh god, it's like in the
old times
<Kristopher38> Oh god, it's like in the
old timesL42[01:32:20] <AdorableCatgirl> oh
yeah
L43[01:32:22] <AdorableCatgirl>
autoruns
L44[01:32:25] <BohemianHacks> past that, you would have
to exploit some kind of network service or another
<BohemianHacks> past that, you would have
to exploit some kind of network service or anotherL45[01:32:39] <AdorableCatgirl> also
someone was talking about writing code to the EEPROM but
L46[01:32:44] <20kdc>
What about subliminal dangers
<20kdc>
What about subliminal dangersL47[01:32:47] <BohemianHacks> maybe some kind of network
file transfer protocol to drop the autorun on the target
<BohemianHacks> maybe some kind of network
file transfer protocol to drop the autorun on the targetL48[01:32:48] <AdorableCatgirl> at least
you can't do that with Zorya NEO <3
L49[01:33:02] <AdorableCatgirl> because the
EEPROM is stuffed full with code
L50[01:33:31] <BohemianHacks> you could probably sneak a
small remote/reverse shell into the eeprom
<BohemianHacks> you could probably sneak a
small remote/reverse shell into the eepromL51[01:33:44] <Kristopher38> I'd gladly hand out
floppies with my malware
<Kristopher38> I'd gladly hand out
floppies with my malwareL52[01:34:25] <BohemianHacks> irl shell scripts can be
tiny, but thats mostly because they are ASM
<BohemianHacks> irl shell scripts can be
tiny, but thats mostly because they are ASML53[01:34:54] <Kristopher38> Reverse shell in eeprom
would be even cooler since not only it's minified but also gonna be
compressed, right @AdorableCatgirl ?
<Kristopher38> Reverse shell in eeprom
would be even cooler since not only it's minified but also gonna be
compressed, right @AdorableCatgirl ?L54[01:35:34] <Kristopher38> You said that you're gonna
use that decompressor someone wrote which fits in the data section
of an eeprom
<Kristopher38> You said that you're gonna
use that decompressor someone wrote which fits in the data section
of an eepromL55[01:35:42] <AdorableCatgirl> yea, Zorya
NEO's loader is minified and compressed
L56[01:35:51] <AdorableCatgirl> also yea,
mainly to cut down on space
L57[01:36:00] <AdorableCatgirl> so i can
shove a bit more code in the kernel
L58[01:36:02] <Kristopher38> Yeah, so that'd be even
harder to spot
<Kristopher38> Yeah, so that'd be even
harder to spotL59[01:36:25] <Kristopher38> You'd have to go through
two layers of obfuscation
<Kristopher38> You'd have to go through
two layers of obfuscationL60[01:36:29] <AdorableCatgirl> but tell me
how you'd get it in there
L61[01:36:42] <BohemianHacks> magnets
<BohemianHacks> magnetsL62[01:38:46] <AdorableCatgirl> anyways,
i'm gonna also be working on a version of zyneo that loads from a
romfs on an EEPROM card, 64KiB one
L63[01:39:06] <AdorableCatgirl> so if you
really want a secure BIOS, just slap your install on a T1
L64[01:40:35] <BohemianHacks> I think security in OC is
mostly a minigame anyways
<BohemianHacks> I think security in OC is
mostly a minigame anywaysL65[01:40:59] <BohemianHacks> without block protection
its just like redstone locks
<BohemianHacks> without block protection
its just like redstone locksL66[01:41:06] <Ocawesome101> lol yea security is
difficult
<Ocawesome101> lol yea security is
difficultL67[01:41:19] <BohemianHacks> man... i should not have
come back to this chat
<BohemianHacks> man... i should not have
come back to this chatL68[01:41:28] <BohemianHacks> you guys are awakening my
will to play minecraft again
<BohemianHacks> you guys are awakening my
will to play minecraft againL69[01:41:41] <Ocawesome101> Even on the lua side, doing
things like file permissions is hard
<Ocawesome101> Even on the lua side, doing
things like file permissions is hardL70[01:41:45] <BohemianHacks> im just getting mediocre
at starcraft 2
<BohemianHacks> im just getting mediocre
at starcraft 2L71[01:42:03] <Ocawesome101> hehehe
<Ocawesome101> heheheL72[01:42:13] <AdorableCatgirl> >file
permissions
L73[01:42:21] <BohemianHacks> Wanna mess with my OC as
primary mod pack again
<BohemianHacks> Wanna mess with my OC as
primary mod pack againL74[01:42:24] <AdorableCatgirl> that's why
i'm gonna make a filesystem
L75[01:42:33] <BohemianHacks> using OC for autocrafting,
storage, mining
<BohemianHacks> using OC for autocrafting,
storage, miningL76[01:42:51] <BohemianHacks> its very fun to strip out
stuff like AE, refined storage, and quarrying
<BohemianHacks> its very fun to strip out
stuff like AE, refined storage, and quarryingL77[01:42:52] <Ocawesome101> I personally think it's
easier to make an OS than to make a filesystem, heh
<Ocawesome101> I personally think it's
easier to make an OS than to make a filesystem, hehL78[01:43:07] <AdorableCatgirl> 👉😎👉
L79[01:43:14] <AdorableCatgirl> also
yea
L80[01:44:14] <AdorableCatgirl> filesystems
are hard
L81[01:44:17] <Ocawesome101> I've written 3 or 4 OSes
(only Open Kernel is actually any good) and never managed a
filesystem
<Ocawesome101> I've written 3 or 4 OSes
(only Open Kernel is actually any good) and never managed a
filesystemL82[01:44:27] <AdorableCatgirl> but it lets
me do permissions
L83[01:44:41] <Ocawesome101> thats true
<Ocawesome101> thats trueL84[01:44:57] <BohemianHacks> Im not really into the
making OSes and userspace programs, at least for OC
<BohemianHacks> Im not really into the
making OSes and userspace programs, at least for OCL85[01:45:06] <BohemianHacks> its kinda fun on irl
embedded electronics
<BohemianHacks> its kinda fun on irl
embedded electronicsL86[01:45:14] <Ocawesome101> Speaking of Open Kernel it
supports mounting filesystems now
<Ocawesome101> Speaking of Open Kernel it
supports mounting filesystems nowL87[01:45:17] <BohemianHacks> but I dont really get the
appeal in OC
<BohemianHacks> but I dont really get the
appeal in OCL88[01:45:20] <AdorableCatgirl> i've got a
decent, small archive format that you can flash onto EEPROM
cards
L89[01:45:28] <AdorableCatgirl> i have the
spec somewhere
L90[01:45:45] <Ocawesome101> Does anyone here play
Xonotic?
<Ocawesome101> Does anyone here play
Xonotic?L91[01:45:56] <BohemianHacks> seems weird without proper
binary level datatypes
<BohemianHacks> seems weird without proper
binary level datatypesL92[01:46:17] <Ocawesome101> or Red Eclipse?
<Ocawesome101> or Red Eclipse?L93[01:46:20] <AdorableCatgirl> https://github.com/Adorable-Catgirl/Random-OC-Docs/blob/master/formats/romfs/1.0.md
L94[01:46:33] <AdorableCatgirl> >without
proper binary level datatypes
L95[01:46:35] <AdorableCatgirl> nani
L96[01:47:06] <BohemianHacks> the only linux or FOSSy
shooter games ive played is that one RTS/FPS hybrid
<BohemianHacks> the only linux or FOSSy
shooter games ive played is that one RTS/FPS hybridL97[01:47:37] <BohemianHacks> also shoutout to proton +
steam. Can play a bunch of windows games so easily now.
<BohemianHacks> also shoutout to proton +
steam. Can play a bunch of windows games so easily now.L98[01:47:42] <Ocawesome101> heck yeah
<Ocawesome101> heck yeahL99[01:47:58] <Ocawesome101> I've only actually used
that for Need For Speed: Hot Pursuit but it works very very
well
<Ocawesome101> I've only actually used
that for Need For Speed: Hot Pursuit but it works very very
wellL100[01:48:04] <BohemianHacks> I was playing battlefront
2(the OG one)
<BohemianHacks> I was playing battlefront
2(the OG one)L101[01:48:11] <Ocawesome101> nice
<Ocawesome101> niceL102[01:48:21] <BohemianHacks> fallout new vegas
<BohemianHacks> fallout new vegasL103[01:48:25] <BohemianHacks> kenshi
<BohemianHacks> kenshiL104[01:48:35] <Ocawesome101> never heard of those
two
<Ocawesome101> never heard of those
twoL105[01:48:39] <AdorableCatgirl> big i r o
n
L106[01:48:44] <AdorableCatgirl> wait
what
L107[01:48:47] <AdorableCatgirl> never
heard of what two
L108[01:48:57] <BohemianHacks> how the fork havent you
heard of fallout?
<BohemianHacks> how the fork havent you
heard of fallout?L109[01:49:07] <AdorableCatgirl> this
makes my big iron the small iron
L110[01:49:10] <Ocawesome101> I mean, i've heard of like
fallout 76
<Ocawesome101> I mean, i've heard of like
fallout 76L111[01:49:17] <AdorableCatgirl> fallout
nv is like
L112[01:49:19] <AdorableCatgirl> the best
fallout
L113[01:49:22] <AdorableCatgirl>
well
L114[01:49:26] <AdorableCatgirl> fps
fallout
L115[01:49:29] <BohemianHacks> thats like only hearing
about the holy roman empire
<BohemianHacks> thats like only hearing
about the holy roman empireL116[01:49:32] <AdorableCatgirl> is it
really an fps?
L117[01:49:44] <AdorableCatgirl>
anyways
L118[01:49:55] <BohemianHacks> fallout is RPG FPS
<BohemianHacks> fallout is RPG FPSL119[01:49:59] <BohemianHacks> well the newer ones
<BohemianHacks> well the newer onesL120[01:50:08] <AdorableCatgirl> i just
mean
L121[01:50:15] <AdorableCatgirl> 'cause
you can play the entire game in third person
L122[01:50:16] <BohemianHacks> its def RPG first
<BohemianHacks> its def RPG firstL123[01:50:43] <AdorableCatgirl>
anyways
L124[01:50:43] <Ocawesome101> these are the games in my
steam library
<Ocawesome101> these are the games in my
steam libraryL125[01:50:46] <AdorableCatgirl> 24-bit
ints
L126[01:50:52] <AdorableCatgirl> how do
you feel about that
L129[01:52:03] <AdorableCatgirl> are we
comparing steam libraries
L130[01:52:14] <BohemianHacks> basically all buildy
games
<BohemianHacks> basically all buildy
gamesL131[01:52:18] <AdorableCatgirl> this will
be multiple screenshots
L132[01:52:27] <AdorableCatgirl> because
jesus christ i have a lot of games
L133[01:52:33] <BohemianHacks> thats not the full
library, just what i have installed locally
<BohemianHacks> thats not the full
library, just what i have installed locallyL134[01:52:36] <AdorableCatgirl> oh
L135[01:52:42] <AdorableCatgirl> i don't
have much installed on this PC
L136[01:52:50] <AdorableCatgirl> my
desktop has most of my games installed
L137[01:52:54] <BohemianHacks> those all work well under
linux
<BohemianHacks> those all work well under
linuxL138[01:53:12] <BohemianHacks> but tbh i mostly play
minecraft and other openworld buildy type games
<BohemianHacks> but tbh i mostly play
minecraft and other openworld buildy type gamesL139[01:53:24] <BohemianHacks> some RTS, and random
FPS
<BohemianHacks> some RTS, and random
FPSL140[01:53:26] <AdorableCatgirl> my
graphics card doesn't have enough vram for some games under
proton
L141[01:53:35] <AdorableCatgirl> fuckin
1050
L142[01:53:40] <BohemianHacks> laughs in intel
graphics
<BohemianHacks> laughs in intel
graphicsL143[01:53:51] <Kristopher38> @BohemianHacks come back to
playing MC, we could share our progress 😎
<Kristopher38> @BohemianHacks come back to
playing MC, we could share our progress 😎L144[01:54:02] <BohemianHacks> lol my gf would be so
mad
<BohemianHacks> lol my gf would be so
madL145[01:54:11] <Kristopher38> Also props for
rimworld
<Kristopher38> Also props for
rimworldL146[01:54:14] <BohemianHacks> after years of trying, we
are finally into the same game at the same time
<BohemianHacks> after years of trying, we
are finally into the same game at the same timeL147[01:54:28] <BohemianHacks> if i switch now its
basically treason
<BohemianHacks> if i switch now its
basically treasonL148[01:54:48] <DaComputerNerd> heh my linux machine has
a quadro k2100m, worse for gaming than a 1050 i think
<DaComputerNerd> heh my linux machine has
a quadro k2100m, worse for gaming than a 1050 i thinkL149[01:54:54] <AdorableCatgirl> how the
hell do i only show games i have installed
L150[01:54:58] <Kristopher38> Can we get some Fs in the
chat
<Kristopher38> Can we get some Fs in the
chatL151[01:55:19] <AdorableCatgirl> also my
1050 only has 2GB of vram
L152[01:55:20] <AdorableCatgirl> so
L154[01:55:27] <Kristopher38> I feel you though, you
gotta do what you gotta do
<Kristopher38> I feel you though, you
gotta do what you gotta doL155[01:56:04] <BohemianHacks> @AdorableCatgirl they
changed the settings you have to set up filtering options with the
little search thingy
<BohemianHacks> @AdorableCatgirl they
changed the settings you have to set up filtering options with the
little search thingyL156[01:56:07] <DaComputerNerd> the image doesn't go
through right does it
<DaComputerNerd> the image doesn't go
through right does itL157[01:56:10] <BohemianHacks> its a pain in the ass
now
<BohemianHacks> its a pain in the ass
nowL158[01:56:14] <DaComputerNerd> it's not really
<DaComputerNerd> it's not reallyL159[01:56:22] <DaComputerNerd> click the button on the
right next to the search bar
<DaComputerNerd> click the button on the
right next to the search barL160[01:56:22] <DaComputerNerd> done
<DaComputerNerd> doneL161[01:56:35] <BohemianHacks> that doesnt work if you
have streaming enabled
<BohemianHacks> that doesnt work if you
have streaming enabledL162[01:56:39] <DaComputerNerd> fair
<DaComputerNerd> fairL163[01:56:41] <BohemianHacks> it shows remote games
also
<BohemianHacks> it shows remote games
alsoL164[01:59:08] <AdorableCatgirl> http://0x0.st/iiKu.png
L165[02:00:36] <AdorableCatgirl> hoi4 runs
like dogshit
L166[02:00:38] <AdorableCatgirl> i don't
know why
L167[02:00:44] <AdorableCatgirl> i blame
CEF mostly
L168[02:00:51] <BohemianHacks> you like the pew pew i
see
<BohemianHacks> you like the pew pew i
seeL169[02:01:01] <BohemianHacks> KSP is awesome
<BohemianHacks> KSP is awesomeL170[02:01:16] <BohemianHacks> haven't played since
before the career mode was added 😄
<BohemianHacks> haven't played since
before the career mode was added 😄L171[02:01:18] <AdorableCatgirl> i forgot
why i had HL2 installed
L172[02:01:19] <Kristopher38> @BohemianHacks before I go
to bed, you don't seem to have answered my question earlier, do you
have any insight to share on the overall energy requirements for
robots/their bases?
<Kristopher38> @BohemianHacks before I go
to bed, you don't seem to have answered my question earlier, do you
have any insight to share on the overall energy requirements for
robots/their bases?L173[02:01:29] <AdorableCatgirl> hl2 is a
shit game
L174[02:01:59] <BohemianHacks> @Kristopher38 not really
but I would be careful about your upgrades. generator upgrade AND
hoverupgrade limit you quite a bit IMO
<BohemianHacks> @Kristopher38 not really
but I would be careful about your upgrades. generator upgrade AND
hoverupgrade limit you quite a bit IMOL175[02:02:32] <AdorableCatgirl>
anyways^2, i need to git gud at Touhou 15.5
L176[02:02:47] <BohemianHacks> geolyzing and moving are
the biggest energy sinks and your range off a charge is + scan is
something like 15 chunks safely
<BohemianHacks> geolyzing and moving are
the biggest energy sinks and your range off a charge is + scan is
something like 15 chunks safelyL177[02:03:04] <BohemianHacks> with a decent
battery
<BohemianHacks> with a decent
batteryL178[02:03:21] <BohemianHacks> if you geolyze constantly
to navigate it gets even smaller
<BohemianHacks> if you geolyze constantly
to navigate it gets even smallerL179[02:03:33] <Kristopher38> In what way, I can still
cram every upgrade I need to make this work
<Kristopher38> In what way, I can still
cram every upgrade I need to make this workL180[02:04:22] <BohemianHacks> inventory controller
upgrade is a must IMO, the geolyzer itself, chunkloader unless you
deploy a chunkloading grid of robots
<BohemianHacks> inventory controller
upgrade is a must IMO, the geolyzer itself, chunkloader unless you
deploy a chunkloading grid of robotsL181[02:04:47] <Kristopher38> Batteries are a waste of
upgrade slots imo, it's better to put one experience upgrade there
and the robot gets 5000 additional energy per level acquired
<Kristopher38> Batteries are a waste of
upgrade slots imo, it's better to put one experience upgrade there
and the robot gets 5000 additional energy per level acquiredL182[02:05:11] <BohemianHacks> gotta look at the material
cost of the bots + upgrades
<BohemianHacks> gotta look at the material
cost of the bots + upgradesL183[02:05:34] <BohemianHacks> i did the math at one
point because I was originally going more or less the route you
are
<BohemianHacks> i did the math at one
point because I was originally going more or less the route you
areL184[02:05:35] <Kristopher38> And since it's gonna mine
most of the time it's going to get that exp pretty quickly
<Kristopher38> And since it's gonna mine
most of the time it's going to get that exp pretty quicklyL185[02:05:45] <BohemianHacks> if you do super robots
they are super expensive per unit
<BohemianHacks> if you do super robots
they are super expensive per unitL186[02:05:54] <BohemianHacks> its way more cost
effective to have lower teir specialized robots
<BohemianHacks> its way more cost
effective to have lower teir specialized robotsL187[02:06:06] <Kristopher38> :GWchadThonkery:
<Kristopher38> :GWchadThonkery:L188[02:06:25] <BohemianHacks> the first robot i designed
had a bunch of upgrades and it all fit for sure
<BohemianHacks> the first robot i designed
had a bunch of upgrades and it all fit for sureL189[02:06:38] <BohemianHacks> but it was several chunks
worth of mining per bot
<BohemianHacks> but it was several chunks
worth of mining per botL190[02:07:02] <BohemianHacks> also getting enderpearls
is somewhat modpack specific but thats a resource to watch out
for
<BohemianHacks> also getting enderpearls
is somewhat modpack specific but thats a resource to watch out
forL191[02:07:25] <Kristopher38> Yeah, I also did the math
and iirc the diamonds would be a bottleneck
<Kristopher38> Yeah, I also did the math
and iirc the diamonds would be a bottleneckL192[02:07:31] <BohemianHacks> 100%
<BohemianHacks> 100%L193[02:07:38] <BohemianHacks> and gold to some
degree
<BohemianHacks> and gold to some
degreeL194[02:07:47] <Kristopher38> Yeah
<Kristopher38> YeahL195[02:08:34] <BohemianHacks> basically the most cost
effective way i found was to put your diamonds, gold, and pearls
into bots that served roles that cover a large area
<BohemianHacks> basically the most cost
effective way i found was to put your diamonds, gold, and pearls
into bots that served roles that cover a large areaL196[02:09:01] <BohemianHacks> so stuff like the
crafter/inventory manager that will be making new bots
<BohemianHacks> so stuff like the
crafter/inventory manager that will be making new botsL197[02:09:25] <BohemianHacks> mining bots you could have
a bunch of lower teir dudes working in parallel and its
better
<BohemianHacks> mining bots you could have
a bunch of lower teir dudes working in parallel and its
betterL198[02:09:41] <BohemianHacks> same for woodcutting or
villager trading
<BohemianHacks> same for woodcutting or
villager tradingL199[02:09:58] <BohemianHacks> well villager trading you
could also probably justify a super bot
<BohemianHacks> well villager trading you
could also probably justify a super botL200[02:10:05] <Kristopher38> About the enderpearls, I'd
like to go villager breeding route
<Kristopher38> About the enderpearls, I'd
like to go villager breeding routeL201[02:10:21] <BohemianHacks> yeah thats the most
vanilla but i get kinda weird about it
<BohemianHacks> yeah thats the most
vanilla but i get kinda weird about itL202[02:10:33] <BohemianHacks> its almost a little too
meta gamey
<BohemianHacks> its almost a little too
meta gameyL203[02:10:56] <Kristopher38> Yeah, whatever fits you, I
like it when it's the most vanilla
<Kristopher38> Yeah, whatever fits you, I
like it when it's the most vanillaL204[02:11:15] <BohemianHacks> I did thermal expansion +
friends, then added some recipes to make liquid enderium
<BohemianHacks> I did thermal expansion +
friends, then added some recipes to make liquid enderiumL205[02:11:31] <Kristopher38> I like working around the
imposed limitations
<Kristopher38> I like working around the
imposed limitationsL206[02:11:50] <BohemianHacks> was some kind of mixture
of glowstone emerald blaze powder kinda stuff
<BohemianHacks> was some kind of mixture
of glowstone emerald blaze powder kinda stuffL207[02:12:30] <Kristopher38> I could also go with the
route of going to the nether with a drone, finding nether fortress
and killing a blaze
<Kristopher38> I could also go with the
route of going to the nether with a drone, finding nether fortress
and killing a blazeL208[02:12:34] <BohemianHacks> cant remember exactly but
i made it more about refining existing overworld resources than
making vanilla style farms
<BohemianHacks> cant remember exactly but
i made it more about refining existing overworld resources than
making vanilla style farmsL209[02:13:05] <BohemianHacks> its a kind of give an take
on how vanilla vs realistic you want to be
<BohemianHacks> its a kind of give an take
on how vanilla vs realistic you want to beL210[02:13:08] <Kristopher38> But that would require
extra geolyzer and chunkloader upgrade for that drone
<Kristopher38> But that would require
extra geolyzer and chunkloader upgrade for that droneL211[02:13:18] <BohemianHacks> I also played around with
doing greg tech and using those resources
<BohemianHacks> I also played around with
doing greg tech and using those resourcesL212[02:13:53] <BohemianHacks> so you dont need magic
pearls and blaze powder as much as just manufacturing screws,
bolts, plates, etc
<BohemianHacks> so you dont need magic
pearls and blaze powder as much as just manufacturing screws,
bolts, plates, etcL213[02:13:59] <BohemianHacks> making electronic
circuits
<BohemianHacks> making electronic
circuitsL214[02:14:13] <Kristopher38> Oh that sounds really
cool
<Kristopher38> Oh that sounds really
coolL215[02:14:27] <BohemianHacks> yeah, it felt more
"correct"
<BohemianHacks> yeah, it felt more
"correct"L216[02:15:52] <BohemianHacks> somewhere in the chat
history i did a paste of my GTCE recipes
<BohemianHacks> somewhere in the chat
history i did a paste of my GTCE recipesL217[02:15:54] <BohemianHacks> trying to find it
<BohemianHacks> trying to find itL218[02:16:37] <BohemianHacks> https://gist.github.com/BohemianHacks/5b59de97eee3d26e79657dd857114754
<BohemianHacks> https://gist.github.com/BohemianHacks/5b59de97eee3d26e79657dd857114754L219[02:16:54] <BohemianHacks> crafttweaker script for
GTCE + OC
<BohemianHacks> crafttweaker script for
GTCE + OCL220[02:17:29] <BohemianHacks> it does require you to
play around with gregtech ores and stuff, but I enjoyed it
<BohemianHacks> it does require you to
play around with gregtech ores and stuff, but I enjoyed itL221[02:18:32] <BohemianHacks> you might be able to do
something simliar but simpler with tech reborn/industrial
craft
<BohemianHacks> you might be able to do
something simliar but simpler with tech reborn/industrial
craftL222[02:18:42] <Kristopher38> My original goal was to
make self replicating robots, so each one would have to be a
superbot to be able to do all of the required jobs to replicate,
but I'll give a thought to the idea of more specialised
robots
<Kristopher38> My original goal was to
make self replicating robots, so each one would have to be a
superbot to be able to do all of the required jobs to replicate,
but I'll give a thought to the idea of more specialised
robotsL223[02:19:06] <BohemianHacks> did you ever follow
project world eater from computercraft?
<BohemianHacks> did you ever follow
project world eater from computercraft?L224[02:19:09] <Amanda> %choose put laptop
away or explore more space-fishies
L225[02:19:10] <MichiBot> Amanda: You'll
want to go with "put laptop away".
L226[02:19:31] <Kristopher38> I've seen a video titled
like that
<Kristopher38> I've seen a video titled
like thatL227[02:19:31] <CompanionCube>
OCawesome101: i've played xonotic badly before
L228[02:19:45] <BohemianHacks> I originally messed with
this idea back on computercraft
<BohemianHacks> I originally messed with
this idea back on computercraftL229[02:19:59] <BohemianHacks> before easy item
identification
<BohemianHacks> before easy item
identificationL230[02:20:06] <BohemianHacks> the challenge was:
<BohemianHacks> the challenge was:L231[02:20:27] <BohemianHacks> Staring with a single
mining turtle facing a tree, make another turtle
<BohemianHacks> Staring with a single
mining turtle facing a tree, make another turtleL232[02:20:39] <CompanionCube>
AdorableCatgirl: I wouldn't, since hoi4 probably doesn't use CEF
that much
L233[02:20:49] <BohemianHacks> you had to do a bunch of
tests to even identify what item was what in your inventory
<BohemianHacks> you had to do a bunch of
tests to even identify what item was what in your inventoryL234[02:20:54] <Kristopher38> Anyway my idea is akin to
Von Neumann probe, a machine that travels from stellar body to
stellar body using up their resources to make copies of
itself
<Kristopher38> Anyway my idea is akin to
Von Neumann probe, a machine that travels from stellar body to
stellar body using up their resources to make copies of
itselfL235[02:21:02] <BohemianHacks> ie is this block
placeable, can i craft X recipe with it, etc
<BohemianHacks> ie is this block
placeable, can i craft X recipe with it, etcL236[02:21:05] <Kristopher38> Yeah, I know
<Kristopher38> Yeah, I knowL237[02:21:19] <Kristopher38> I've seen those videos when
I was doing my research
<Kristopher38> I've seen those videos when
I was doing my researchL238[02:21:44] <BohemianHacks> Yeah, we are after kind of
the same thing. Basically the "mother" robot is my
approach
<BohemianHacks> Yeah, we are after kind of
the same thing. Basically the "mother" robot is my
approachL239[02:21:44] <Kristopher38> Someone actually finished
it after the challenge ended, right?
<Kristopher38> Someone actually finished
it after the challenge ended, right?L240[02:22:05] <BohemianHacks> yeah, after the item
identification was added though
<BohemianHacks> yeah, after the item
identification was added thoughL241[02:22:06] <AdorableCatgirl> CC: too late, already
blames
<AdorableCatgirl> CC: too late, already
blamesL242[02:22:10] <AdorableCatgirl> *blamed
<AdorableCatgirl> *blamedL243[02:22:23] <AdorableCatgirl> but jeez, it runs
bad
<AdorableCatgirl> but jeez, it runs
badL244[02:22:41] <BohemianHacks> so the goal with mine
would be multiple robot colonies
<BohemianHacks> so the goal with mine
would be multiple robot coloniesL245[02:22:47] <AdorableCatgirl> i've got an AMD
A12-9720P in my laptop
<AdorableCatgirl> i've got an AMD
A12-9720P in my laptopL246[02:22:49] <AdorableCatgirl> :(
<AdorableCatgirl> :(L247[02:22:56] <AdorableCatgirl> i should be able to run
hoi4
<AdorableCatgirl> i should be able to run
hoi4L248[02:23:02] <BohemianHacks> you start with a high teir
robot and some supplies, and it makes a colony of simpler
robots
<BohemianHacks> you start with a high teir
robot and some supplies, and it makes a colony of simpler
robotsL249[02:23:13] <BohemianHacks> then it eventually can
make a new high teir robot + supplies
<BohemianHacks> then it eventually can
make a new high teir robot + suppliesL250[02:23:36] <BohemianHacks> rather than 1:1
<BohemianHacks> rather than 1:1L251[02:23:39] *
CompanionCube has run it well on his FX8350
L252[02:23:47] <Kristopher38> I've seen a video of one
guy, clearly before doing item identification since he was
repeatedly placing sand to test if it's sand or gravel
<Kristopher38> I've seen a video of one
guy, clearly before doing item identification since he was
repeatedly placing sand to test if it's sand or gravelL253[02:24:22] <Kristopher38> Don't remember if he
finished that software though
<Kristopher38> Don't remember if he
finished that software thoughL254[02:24:30] <AdorableCatgirl> i mean shouldn't my
fuckin laptop be able to run it?
<AdorableCatgirl> i mean shouldn't my
fuckin laptop be able to run it?L255[02:24:43] <AdorableCatgirl> maybe i'll compare the
linux version to the windows version on my desktop
<AdorableCatgirl> maybe i'll compare the
linux version to the windows version on my desktopL256[02:24:45] <BohemianHacks> yeah, there were some very
advanced ones but iirc no one did the full challenge
<BohemianHacks> yeah, there were some very
advanced ones but iirc no one did the full challengeL257[02:24:56] <BohemianHacks> there were a few random
hiccups in the item ID process
<BohemianHacks> there were a few random
hiccups in the item ID processL258[02:25:10] <BohemianHacks> i think lapis was
one
<BohemianHacks> i think lapis was
oneL259[02:26:04] <Kristopher38> Your approach seems more
sensible, some tasks can be parallelized so they can benefit from
more, simpler robots
<Kristopher38> Your approach seems more
sensible, some tasks can be parallelized so they can benefit from
more, simpler robotsL260[02:26:34] <BohemianHacks> its theoretically possible
to do the single robot way, but it would be so slow and
tedious
<BohemianHacks> its theoretically possible
to do the single robot way, but it would be so slow and
tediousL261[02:26:45] <Kristopher38> Yeah, you're right
<Kristopher38> Yeah, you're rightL262[02:26:49] <BohemianHacks> mostly from the
microcrafting, smelting, and pearls
<BohemianHacks> mostly from the
microcrafting, smelting, and pearlsL263[02:27:39] <Kristopher38> Memory constraints are a
pain though, my A* and map representation still use so much
memory
<Kristopher38> Memory constraints are a
pain though, my A* and map representation still use so much
memoryL264[02:27:52] <BohemianHacks> oh yeah, thats somethign i
can help with
<BohemianHacks> oh yeah, thats somethign i
can help withL265[02:27:53] <Kristopher38> Gotta optimize that if I
want to run on gold tier memory
<Kristopher38> Gotta optimize that if I
want to run on gold tier memoryL266[02:27:57] <CompanionCube> if it's
your server just alter them in the config :p
L267[02:28:11] <BohemianHacks> you have to convert the
tables to strings or numbers
<BohemianHacks> you have to convert the
tables to strings or numbersL268[02:28:24] <Kristopher38> Yeah, I know
<Kristopher38> Yeah, I knowL269[02:28:34] <BohemianHacks> you can go the easy way of
serializing/unserializing but I actually packed them into
numbers
<BohemianHacks> you can go the easy way of
serializing/unserializing but I actually packed them into
numbersL270[02:28:49] <BohemianHacks> by shifting bits around
and stuff
<BohemianHacks> by shifting bits around
and stuffL271[02:29:13] <BohemianHacks> so I had a 1D table, then
calculated offsets
<BohemianHacks> so I had a 1D table, then
calculated offsetsL272[02:29:21] <Kristopher38> Yeah, I did exactly that,
even before I discovered that you did the same thing
<Kristopher38> Yeah, I did exactly that,
even before I discovered that you did the same thingL273[02:29:26] <BohemianHacks> lol nice
<BohemianHacks> lol niceL274[02:29:40] <Kristopher38> I also use 1D table
<Kristopher38> I also use 1D tableL275[02:29:53] <BohemianHacks> its basically the only way
to do it
<BohemianHacks> its basically the only way
to do itL276[02:29:58] <BohemianHacks> such tiny memory
<BohemianHacks> such tiny memoryL277[02:30:20] <AdorableCatgirl>
anyways
L278[02:30:25] <BohemianHacks> you just made me so happy
😄
<BohemianHacks> you just made me so happy
😄L279[02:30:31] <Kristopher38> And I'm thinking of using
strings to store that to shrink down memory usage even
further
<Kristopher38> And I'm thinking of using
strings to store that to shrink down memory usage even
furtherL280[02:30:37] <BohemianHacks> at the time I was on here
trying to talk to people and felt kinda insane
<BohemianHacks> at the time I was on here
trying to talk to people and felt kinda insaneL281[02:31:00] <BohemianHacks> awesome to see someone
else reach the same conclusion
<BohemianHacks> awesome to see someone
else reach the same conclusionL282[02:31:01] <Kristopher38> :( poor you
<Kristopher38> :( poor youL283[02:31:19] <AdorableCatgirl> ugh
L284[02:31:23] <AdorableCatgirl> i need to
finish tsukinet
L285[02:31:26] <AdorableCatgirl> so i can
test it out
L286[02:31:31] <AdorableCatgirl> in
OC
L287[02:31:34] <AdorableCatgirl> then over
ethernet
L288[02:32:49] <Kristopher38> When I found that you were
doing the same thing as I was, I was scrolling through logs and was
amazed that one month before me someone used the same solutions as
I did and encountered similar problems
<Kristopher38> When I found that you were
doing the same thing as I was, I was scrolling through logs and was
amazed that one month before me someone used the same solutions as
I did and encountered similar problemsL289[02:34:10] <Kristopher38> Anyway, I ran some tests
and curiously strings take half a byte of OC memory per
character
<Kristopher38> Anyway, I ran some tests
and curiously strings take half a byte of OC memory per
characterL290[02:34:43] <AdorableCatgirl> big
think
L291[02:35:00] <BohemianHacks> thats very confusing
<BohemianHacks> thats very confusingL292[02:35:01] <AdorableCatgirl> hmm
L293[02:35:10] <AdorableCatgirl> i wonder
if i could port LZ4 to OC
L294[02:35:29] <BohemianHacks> I think a string and a
number are the same size in memory(up to a certain size string
obviously)
<BohemianHacks> I think a string and a
number are the same size in memory(up to a certain size string
obviously)L295[02:35:33] <BohemianHacks> at least the last time I
looked
<BohemianHacks> at least the last time I
lookedL296[02:36:31] <Kristopher38> So what I'm thinking of
doing is keeping the map representation as strings after a geolyzer
scan and that's static. Any changes made go into a 1D table that's
queried first when accessing the map, and if they're not there, the
string is queried
<Kristopher38> So what I'm thinking of
doing is keeping the map representation as strings after a geolyzer
scan and that's static. Any changes made go into a 1D table that's
queried first when accessing the map, and if they're not there, the
string is queriedL297[02:37:05] <BohemianHacks> oh, another really
important note someone gave me on that front
<BohemianHacks> oh, another really
important note someone gave me on that frontL298[02:37:12] <Kristopher38> And a function to
"commit" the changes to the string
<Kristopher38> And a function to
"commit" the changes to the stringL299[02:37:16] <BohemianHacks> use the tempfs
<BohemianHacks> use the tempfsL300[02:37:34] <BohemianHacks> its as fast as memory
access and doesn't take up disk space or ram
<BohemianHacks> its as fast as memory
access and doesn't take up disk space or ramL301[02:37:41] <BohemianHacks> its basically magic extra
memory
<BohemianHacks> its basically magic extra
memoryL302[02:37:47] <Kristopher38> 😮
<Kristopher38> 😮L303[02:37:54] <AdorableCatgirl> tmpfs for
swap
L304[02:38:10] <Kristopher38> It's 64K?
<Kristopher38> It's 64K?L305[02:38:30] <AdorableCatgirl> BLT ->
LZ(SS/4/MA) -> write
L306[02:38:32] <BohemianHacks> I dont know the actual
size limits before it gets cleared but it doesnt count for disk or
ram use
<BohemianHacks> I dont know the actual
size limits before it gets cleared but it doesnt count for disk or
ram useL307[02:38:42] <The_Stargazer> so tmpfs = download more
ram
<The_Stargazer> so tmpfs = download more
ramL308[02:38:44] <The_Stargazer> but real
<The_Stargazer> but realL309[02:38:45] <The_Stargazer> ?
<The_Stargazer> ?L310[02:38:57] <Kristopher38> I see, thanks for
this
<Kristopher38> I see, thanks for
thisL311[02:39:12] <BohemianHacks> so its really good for
stuff like geoscans before you dump them into a longer term
storage, really long a* paths, etc
<BohemianHacks> so its really good for
stuff like geoscans before you dump them into a longer term
storage, really long a* paths, etcL312[02:39:25] <AdorableCatgirl>
also
L313[02:39:36] <AdorableCatgirl> i'm gonna
add flash chips to OSSM
L314[02:39:43] <BohemianHacks> @The_Stargazer yes
<BohemianHacks> @The_Stargazer yesL315[02:39:43] <AdorableCatgirl> 8K, 16K,
and 32K
L316[02:39:50] <The_Stargazer> Huh. Neat.
<The_Stargazer> Huh. Neat.L317[02:40:01] <Kristopher38> Also I can post my script
that I used to run the memory tests tomorrow
<Kristopher38> Also I can post my script
that I used to run the memory tests tomorrowL318[02:40:08] <AdorableCatgirl> super
fast I/O
L319[02:41:03] <Kristopher38> There was also a post on
the forums describing how much memory each variable type
takes
<Kristopher38> There was also a post on
the forums describing how much memory each variable type
takesL320[02:41:12] <Ocawesome101> Link?
<Ocawesome101> Link?L321[02:41:15] <BohemianHacks> Im gonna 1v1 in gf in
starcraft 2 until she rage quits, then we should totally team
up
<BohemianHacks> Im gonna 1v1 in gf in
starcraft 2 until she rage quits, then we should totally team
upL322[02:41:26] <BohemianHacks> Im gonna 1v1 my gf in
starcraft 2 until she rage quits, then we should totally team up
[Edited]
<BohemianHacks> Im gonna 1v1 my gf in
starcraft 2 until she rage quits, then we should totally team up
[Edited]L324[02:41:48] <Ocawesome101> Thanks!
<Ocawesome101> Thanks!L325[02:41:56] <Ocawesome101> gn all
<Ocawesome101> gn allL326[02:42:16] <Kristopher38> Although I don't believe it
to always be accurate in all cases
<Kristopher38> Although I don't believe it
to always be accurate in all casesL327[02:42:17] <BohemianHacks> no promises or anything
but if I get back into the robot project I will definitely hit you
up to collaborate more.
<BohemianHacks> no promises or anything
but if I get back into the robot project I will definitely hit you
up to collaborate more.L328[02:43:02] <Kristopher38> Weird stuff happens when
index with strings instead of number even though strings are
internalised and shouldn't take more than 9 bytes
<Kristopher38> Weird stuff happens when
index with strings instead of number even though strings are
internalised and shouldn't take more than 9 bytesL329[02:44:01] <Kristopher38> Weird stuff happens when
you index with strings instead of numbers for example even though
strings are internalised and shouldn't take more than 9 bytes
[Edited]
<Kristopher38> Weird stuff happens when
you index with strings instead of numbers for example even though
strings are internalised and shouldn't take more than 9 bytes
[Edited]L330[02:44:17] <AdorableCatgirl> OpenOS
now uses ~175KB last time i checked
L331[02:44:58] <BohemianHacks> Im outta here for now.
Good luck @Kristopher38
<BohemianHacks> Im outta here for now.
Good luck @Kristopher38L332[02:45:00] <Kristopher38> Thanks for all the tips, it
was really nice talking to you, see you around and good luck
<Kristopher38> Thanks for all the tips, it
was really nice talking to you, see you around and good luckL333[02:45:32] <Kristopher38> Gotta go to bed, it's
really late for me here
<Kristopher38> Gotta go to bed, it's
really late for me hereL334[02:45:37] <Kristopher38> Gn!
<Kristopher38> Gn!L335[02:45:43] <BohemianHacks> gn!
<BohemianHacks> gn!L336[03:38:19] ⇦
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L340[04:59:42] <BrightYC> payonel wow,
radioegor146 was helped
L341[05:00:15] <BrightYC> i am
surprised
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L350[07:15:55] <Izaya> undead chat
L351[07:34:48] <Lizzian> %tonk
L352[07:34:48] <MichiBot> Jeepers!
Lizzian! You beat BohemianHacks's previous record of 11 hours, 8
minutes and 54 seconds (By 1 hour, 3 minutes and 34 seconds)! I
hope you're happy!
L353[07:34:49] <MichiBot> Lizzian's new
record is 12 hours, 12 minutes and 29 seconds! Lizzian also gained
0.01272 (0.00106 x 12) tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L354[07:35:10] <Lizzian> Yay
L355[07:35:51] <Lizzian>
%tonkleadera
L356[07:35:54] <Lizzian> Fak
L357[07:36:04] <Lizzian>
%tonkleaders
L358[07:36:04] <MichiBot> Lizzian:
https://michibot.pc-logix.com/tonk
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L364[09:42:04] <Izaya> good news
everyone!
L365[09:42:07] <Izaya> I fixed my
MX518.
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L367[09:55:42] <Lizzian> don't you just
love it when the windows 10 login screen breaks and doesn't respond
when you try and wake it up?
L368[09:56:00] <Lizzian> had to fix it by
remoting in via my phone which then triggered it to restart so i
could then log back in physically
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L374[11:25:33] <Forecaster> gotta love when things fail
for no reason
<Forecaster> gotta love when things fail
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L377[12:24:12] <stephan48> nice easy and
uncomplicated pieces of software each minding their own task
L378[12:24:33] <stephan48> wishfull
thinking everything is integrating and fucking around via dbus like
magic which nobody can even grasp to understand
L379[12:24:45] <stephan48> having so many
interactionpoints and pieces that nothing can be expected to
work
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L382[13:10:47] <Forecaster> "uncomplicated" and
"software", heh
<Forecaster> "uncomplicated" and
"software", hehL383[13:24:20] <Forecaster> %sip
<Forecaster> %sipL384[13:24:21] <MichiBot> You drink a
stirring weather potion (New!). Everything Forecaster says is now
in Wingdings until they see a unicorn.
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L395[16:45:50] <payonel> Amanda: i made a
very helpful update to os-level development for ocvm
L396[16:45:58] <payonel> printing the
crash message to stdout after vm shutdown
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L399[16:50:05] <payonel> @Kristopher38
openos 1.7.5 allocated about 130 maybe 135 KB to get to the boot
shell. it's been a while since i checked
L400[16:50:32] <payonel> but then it will
dynmically load more if you use certain libraries (including tab
completion)
L401[16:50:40] <payonel> or if you use
shell pipes
L402[16:51:10] <gamax92> payonel: openos
is pandora's box
L403[16:51:32] <payonel> anyways, ocvm (my
oc emulator) can also be used to quickly measure tiny changes in
memory cost if you want to optimize your memory footprint.
L404[16:51:52] <payonel> gamax92: holy
crap it's gamax!
L405[16:52:04] <payonel> %pet
gamax92
L406[16:52:04] <MichiBot> payonel is
petting gamax92 with A vial of lies. gamax92 regains 1d4 => 3
hit points!
L407[16:52:10] <gamax92> lies
L408[16:56:27] <gamax92> kinda exist
again, trying to write a TickDynamic clone while also fixing like 6
other problems in a modpack
L409[16:57:11] <payonel> i'm glad you are
here
L410[17:00:14] <Kristopher38> payonel: how long is
quickly? Does it report current lua memory usage?
<Kristopher38> payonel: how long is
quickly? Does it report current lua memory usage?L411[17:00:45] <Kristopher38> And how accurate is it in
comparison to actual OC
<Kristopher38> And how accurate is it in
comparison to actual OCL412[17:03:49] <payonel> have you ever
used ocvm?
L413[17:05:42] <Kristopher38> Nope, but now I'm
interested
<Kristopher38> Nope, but now I'm
interestedL414[17:05:54] <Kristopher38> I've been doing all my
testing in-game up to this point
<Kristopher38> I've been doing all my
testing in-game up to this pointL415[17:06:50] <payonel> with ocvm i can
start and shutdown a vm about 4 times a second
L416[17:07:30] <payonel> my first goal
with it was for profiling memory use
L417[17:08:41] <payonel> to really get
into the details of memory profiling you'd need some external
tools, which i haven't push to github (for example, a lua stack
trace profiling aggregrator i wrote to build graphs of
"hot" zones)
L418[17:09:00] <Kristopher38> Now you got me really
interested
<Kristopher38> Now you got me really
interestedL419[17:09:08] <payonel> but, at a basic
level, ocvm writes to a machine log the memory the lua vm allocated
during runtime
L420[17:09:41] <payonel> in the log,
you'll see messages like this: computer peek memory: 1029686
L421[17:10:30] <payonel> the memory
measurement is exact, but, the lua runtime you use and the fact
that i'm using my own c++ bindings as opposed to the jnlua oc uses
.. there are differences
L422[17:10:49] <payonel> you can do some
testing to get an idea of what that delta is between OC and
ocvm
L423[17:11:03] <payonel> but ocvm is best
at telling you if youre making progress or making things
worse
L424[17:11:49] <Kristopher38> Is this the right repo?
https://github.com/IgorTimofeev/OpenComputersVM
<Kristopher38> Is this the right repo?
https://github.com/IgorTimofeev/OpenComputersVML425[17:11:54] <Kristopher38> Doesn't look like
yours
<Kristopher38> Doesn't look like
yoursL426[17:12:08] <Kristopher38> Oh, that's the MineOS
guy
<Kristopher38> Oh, that's the MineOS
guyL427[17:12:12] <payonel> when i'm testing
memory one thing i do is add shutdown to .shrc, and then start the
vm 10 or 100 times (memory can fluctuate ever so slightly due to
some random memory page values that cause lua to allocate an extra
page or two -- which matter when you're trying to measure memory
changes smaller than a page)
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L429[17:12:30] <payonel> https://github.com/payonel/ocvm
L431[17:12:41] <ThePiGuy24> rip
<ThePiGuy24> ripL432[17:12:51] <payonel> @Kristopher38
there are things ocvm doesn't do well/doesn't try to do
correctly
L433[17:13:13] <payonel> 1. its primary
target host is linux. because that's where i am, and it was a tool
for me primarily
L434[17:13:24] <payonel> it'll build on
other systems, but maybe not
L435[17:13:58] <payonel> it's is a tty
(pty) / cli program, so you'll need to run it in a compatible
terminal
L436[17:14:15] <payonel> it uses your
system fonts for the terminal, it does not use OC's glyph
system
L437[17:15:02] <Elfi> Is ocemu still being
worked on?
L438[17:15:14] <Kristopher38> Not dealbreakers to
me
<Kristopher38> Not dealbreakers to
meL439[17:15:26] <bauen1> payonel: ocemu is
really nice
L440[17:15:31] <Elfi> IIRC that emulates
the OC screen more closely.
L441[17:15:46] <payonel> ocemu is awesome,
i was just trying to solve a different problem with ocvm
L442[17:15:56] <payonel> yep, ocemu is
def. closer to real oc
L443[17:16:00] <bauen1> s/ocemu/ocvm
L444[17:16:00] <MichiBot> <payonel>
yep, ocvm is def. closer to real oc
L445[17:16:04] <Kristopher38> You wrote in readme that it
can also do CPU profiling, that means it's time-accurate?
<Kristopher38> You wrote in readme that it
can also do CPU profiling, that means it's time-accurate?L446[17:16:05] <bauen1> well
L447[17:16:08] <payonel> :/
L448[17:16:09] <bauen1> you get what i
mean
L449[17:16:14] <bauen1> the thing you made
is awesome
L450[17:16:28] <gamax92> Elfi: I haven't
really touched it in a couple of years
L451[17:17:16] <payonel> @Kristopher38
time-accurate as in real-time modeling? no - cpu profiling as in, i
wrote a lua stack aggregator so i could use pprof tools with
it
L452[17:17:18] <Elfi> Ah, that's
fair
L453[17:17:37] <Elfi> still, you both did
good work, even if the use cases are different~
L454[17:17:45] <payonel> and then i wrote
a "hot call path" tool that let me "walk"
through the call areas that were expensive
L455[17:18:00] <gamax92> iirc I did make
an SDL patch for ocvm before
L456[17:18:10] <Elfi> Ooh
L457[17:20:30] <payonel> yep, that is when
i made an interface for the screen so sdl (or other plugins) would
be easier: https://github.com/payonel/ocvm/blob/master/io/frame.h
L458[17:22:11] <Kristopher38> Did you release that tool?
It would make my life much easier
<Kristopher38> Did you release that tool?
It would make my life much easierL459[17:22:41] <payonel> i would need to
surely need to dust that thing off and make a README for it
L460[17:22:50] <payonel> but i would be
happy to do that, perhaps this weekend
L461[17:23:38] <Kristopher38> That'd be awesome
<Kristopher38> That'd be awesomeL462[17:23:39] <payonel> it's not well
refined, there are going to be a lot of weird gears in that
thing
L463[17:24:21] <AdorableCatgirl> i'm finally working on
my cpu arch
<AdorableCatgirl> i'm finally working on
my cpu archL464[17:24:59] <payonel> @AdorableCatgirl
what arch is that?
L465[17:25:05] <Kristopher38> As long as it
works(TM)
<Kristopher38> As long as it
works(TM)L466[17:25:16] <Kristopher38> @AdorableCatgirl what
language, I'm curious
<Kristopher38> @AdorableCatgirl what
language, I'm curiousL467[17:25:32] <AdorableCatgirl> xdpu64, something i've
been working out myself
<AdorableCatgirl> xdpu64, something i've
been working out myselfL468[17:25:42] <AdorableCatgirl> also assembly :^)
@Kristopher38
<AdorableCatgirl> also assembly :^)
@Kristopher38L469[17:25:48] <Kristopher38> Glowingeyes
<Kristopher38> GlowingeyesL470[17:26:15] <Kristopher38> Is it your own instruction
set?
<Kristopher38> Is it your own instruction
set?L471[17:26:57] <AdorableCatgirl> yea
<AdorableCatgirl> yeaL472[17:27:05] <AdorableCatgirl> i just said that
<AdorableCatgirl> i just said thatL473[17:27:17] <AdorableCatgirl> 64 bit words, 24 bit
addresses
<AdorableCatgirl> 64 bit words, 24 bit
addressesL474[17:28:36] <Kristopher38> Addressable 16MBs 🤔
<Kristopher38> Addressable 16MBs 🤔L475[17:29:58] <Kristopher38> What was the upper limit on
default config with maxed out tier 3.5 memory in servers, 8
Megs?
<Kristopher38> What was the upper limit on
default config with maxed out tier 3.5 memory in servers, 8
Megs?L476[17:30:21] <Kristopher38> 23 bit addresses would be
weird though
<Kristopher38> 23 bit addresses would be
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L479[17:32:33] <AdorableCatgirl> iirc real max is like
64M
<AdorableCatgirl> iirc real max is like
64ML480[17:35:30] <Kristopher38> The real question is
<Kristopher38> The real question isL481[17:35:40] <Kristopher38> Will you port a C compiler
to it?
<Kristopher38> Will you port a C compiler
to it?L482[17:36:23] <AdorableCatgirl> hell no
<AdorableCatgirl> hell noL483[17:36:32] <bauen1> why not ?
L484[17:36:43] <bauen1> or rather, does it
have a stack ?
L485[17:36:48] <AdorableCatgirl> i'm not fuckin doing
that
<AdorableCatgirl> i'm not fuckin doing
thatL486[17:36:58] <gamax92> but why
not?
L487[17:37:00] <AdorableCatgirl> there aren't all that
many instructions
<AdorableCatgirl> there aren't all that
many instructionsL488[17:37:38] <bauen1> is it turing
complete ? (theoretically atleast)
L489[17:38:14] <AdorableCatgirl> there are about
<AdorableCatgirl> there are aboutL491[17:39:10] <AdorableCatgirl> 50 instructions
<AdorableCatgirl> 50 instructionsL492[17:39:40] <Kristopher38> Have you got them
documented somewhere? Can we take a look?
<Kristopher38> Have you got them
documented somewhere? Can we take a look?L493[17:40:02] <AdorableCatgirl> but the jmp and call
instructions are encoded weirdly so those two cover stuff like jz,
jzr, jnz, jgz, etc
<AdorableCatgirl> but the jmp and call
instructions are encoded weirdly so those two cover stuff like jz,
jzr, jnz, jgz, etcL494[17:42:08] <bauen1> using jz and jgz
and jmp you can probably "emulate" most other jump
instructions available on e.g. 6502 or i386
L495[17:43:02] <AdorableCatgirl> well, there was room in
the type field
<AdorableCatgirl> well, there was room in
the type fieldL496[18:02:43] <Mimiru> http://a.b.c.d.e.f.g.h.i.j.k.l.m.n.oo.pp.qqq.rrrr.ssssss.tttttttt.uuuuuuuuuuu.vvvvvvvvvvvvvvv.wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.me/
L497[18:11:58] <ThePiGuy24> oh god
<ThePiGuy24> oh godL498[18:26:32] <Mimiru> :P
L499[18:26:36] <Mimiru> Oh yeah, eye
cancer BTW :P
L500[18:29:39] <gamax92> agh. one mod puts
a DataParameter on the wrong class (EntityTameable), breaking
everything else
L501[18:30:13] <gamax92> another mod copy
and pasted this issue while also having every other DataParameter
for that entity on the wrong class too
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L505[18:54:54] <Mimiru> Yay I found where
I forked SGCraft into what would be come LanteaCraft...
L506[18:55:07] <Forecaster> yay?
<Forecaster> yay?L507[18:55:15] <Mimiru> This happened
roughly ~2013-10-18
L508[18:59:50] <simon816> https://forrestheller.com/Apollo-11-Computer-vs-USB-C-chargers.html
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L512[19:32:19] <ThePiGuy24> what i have gathered from the
link that simon816 sent: you could possibly fly to the moon if you
hack up and reprogram 4 Anker PowerPort Atom PD 2 USB-C
chargers
<ThePiGuy24> what i have gathered from the
link that simon816 sent: you could possibly fly to the moon if you
hack up and reprogram 4 Anker PowerPort Atom PD 2 USB-C
chargersL513[19:33:12] <Mimiru> Pretty much, maybe
yeah..
L514[19:33:26] <simon816> time to run a
server cluster of usb chargers
L515[19:33:41] <ThePiGuy24> not sure if they are OTP
though
<ThePiGuy24> not sure if they are OTP
thoughL516[19:39:24] <ben_mkiv|afk> thinks i
didnt need to know, but still fascinating
L517[19:39:37] <ben_mkiv|afk> my smart
plug is probably faster, too
L518[19:39:58] <ben_mkiv|afk> maybe even
the hue light bulb?
L519[19:42:04] <ThePiGuy24> arduino might be able to do
it
<ThePiGuy24> arduino might be able to do
itL520[19:42:15] <ThePiGuy24> it also doesnt have
division
<ThePiGuy24> it also doesnt have
divisionL521[19:42:27] <ben_mkiv|afk> the uno
doesnt?
L522[19:42:37] <ThePiGuy24> not hardware division
<ThePiGuy24> not hardware divisionL523[19:42:39] <ben_mkiv|afk> nvm, nothing
about uno in it :>
L524[19:42:51] <ben_mkiv|afk> well
division is some bitshifting, not a big deal actually?!
L525[19:43:36] <ben_mkiv|afk> or did you
mean floating point operations?
L526[19:44:27] <ThePiGuy24> i mean that there is no
division instruction
<ThePiGuy24> i mean that there is no
division instructionL527[19:44:46] <ThePiGuy24> https://www.microchip.com/webdoc/avrassembler/avrassembler.wb_instruction_list.html
<ThePiGuy24> https://www.microchip.com/webdoc/avrassembler/avrassembler.wb_instruction_list.htmlL528[19:47:00] <ben_mkiv|afk> yea, but it
has multiply
L529[19:47:06] <ThePiGuy24> yes
<ThePiGuy24> yesL530[19:48:05] <ben_mkiv|afk> SWAP - Swap
Nibbles sounds neat
L531[19:53:55] <Inari> s/bb/pp/
L532[19:53:56] <MichiBot>
<ben_mkiv|afk> SWAP - Swap Nipples sounds neat
L533[19:55:24] <ThePiGuy24> %s/n//
<ThePiGuy24> %s/n//L534[19:55:25] <MichiBot>
<ben_mkiv|afk> SWAP - Swap Nipples souds neat
L535[19:55:31] <ThePiGuy24> m
<ThePiGuy24> mL536[19:55:42] <Inari> ?.?
L537[19:55:54] <ThePiGuy24> it didnt do what i
wanted
<ThePiGuy24> it didnt do what i
wantedL538[19:56:35] <ben_mkiv|afk> not?
L539[19:56:36] <Lizzian> %tonkout
L540[19:56:38] <MichiBot> Willikers!
Lizzian! You beat your own previous record of 12 hours, 12 minutes
and 29 seconds (By 9 minutes and 19 seconds)! I hope you're
happy!
L541[19:56:39] <MichiBot> Lizzian has
tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.012 tonk points!
plus 0.022 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score:
0.35907
L542[19:57:13] <ThePiGuy24> %tonk
<ThePiGuy24> %tonkL543[19:57:13] <MichiBot> Dagnammit!
ThePiGuy24! You beat Lizzian's previous record of <0 (By 35
seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L544[19:57:14] <MichiBot> ThePiGuy24's new
record is 35 seconds! ThePiGuy24 also gained 0.00001 tonk points
for stealing the tonk.
L545[19:57:28] <ThePiGuy24> amazing
<ThePiGuy24> amazingL546[19:59:04] <Lizzian>
%tonkleaders
L547[19:59:04] <MichiBot> Lizzian:
https://michibot.pc-logix.com/tonk
L548[19:59:31] <ThePiGuy24> %tonkout
<ThePiGuy24> %tonkoutL549[19:59:36] *
Lizzian gives MichiBot a Banjo
L550[19:59:40] <Lizzian> hmm
L551[19:59:50] <ThePiGuy24> well that hasnt worked
<ThePiGuy24> well that hasnt workedL552[19:59:57] <Lizzian> %give MichiBot An
out-of-tune Banjo
L553[19:59:58] *
MichiBot accepts the out-of-tune Banjo and adds it to her
inventory
L554[20:00:08] <Lizzian> 15 minute
cooldown between tonk attempts
L555[20:00:29] <ThePiGuy24> ah rip
<ThePiGuy24> ah ripL556[20:01:25] <Lizzian> mainly to stop
the useless spam when the record is low after a tonkout
L557[20:02:53] <ThePiGuy24> hmm
<ThePiGuy24> hmmL558[20:07:08] <Forecaster> it should message you
that
<Forecaster> it should message you
thatL559[20:07:21] <Forecaster> if you hit a command
timeout
<Forecaster> if you hit a command
timeoutL560[20:07:29] <Forecaster> if it doesn't there's a bug
somewhere
<Forecaster> if it doesn't there's a bug
somewhereL561[20:07:46] <Lizzian> would it do that
for discord users though?
L562[20:07:52] <Forecaster> yes
<Forecaster> yesL563[20:08:37] <Forecaster> I made MichiBot detect when a
command comes from Corded (or other recognized bridge name) and
send any notices as bridge DM's instead
<Forecaster> I made MichiBot detect when a
command comes from Corded (or other recognized bridge name) and
send any notices as bridge DM's insteadL564[20:09:05] <Forecaster> %tonk
<Forecaster> %tonkL565[20:09:17] <Forecaster> hm... apparently it broke
again
<Forecaster> hm... apparently it broke
againL566[20:09:29] <Forecaster> could've sword I tested it
and it worked
<Forecaster> could've sword I tested it
and it workedL567[20:09:35] <Forecaster> sworn*
<Forecaster> sworn*L568[20:09:39] <Lizzian> %tonk
L569[20:09:41] <MichiBot> Aw jeez!
Lizzian! You beat ThePiGuy24's previous record of 35 seconds (By 11
minutes and 51 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L570[20:09:42] <MichiBot> Lizzian's new
record is 12 minutes and 27 seconds! Lizzian also gained 0.0002
tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L572[20:16:40] <Forecaster> pile-o-references
<Forecaster> pile-o-referencesL574[20:21:39] <ThePiGuy24> hmmmm
<ThePiGuy24> hmmmmL575[20:22:16]
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L576[20:23:50] <CompanionCube> Lizzian:
dammit lizzian
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L578[20:24:16] <Lizzian> CompanionCube,
nyahahaha!
L579[20:29:21] <ThePiGuy24> %tonk
<ThePiGuy24> %tonkL580[20:29:21] <MichiBot> Consarn it!
ThePiGuy24! You beat Lizzian's previous record of 12 minutes and 27
seconds (By 7 minutes and 13 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L581[20:29:22] <MichiBot> ThePiGuy24's new
record is 19 minutes and 40 seconds! ThePiGuy24 also gained 0.00012
tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L582[20:29:32] <ThePiGuy24> Consarn it
<ThePiGuy24> Consarn itL583[20:34:45] <Forecaster> Repeating the thing
<Forecaster> Repeating the thingL584[20:35:27] ⇦
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L587[21:00:34] <Inari> Amanda: https://www.reddit.com/r/learnart/comments/ezqf1g/i_always_hated_drawing_environments_but_i_feel_a/
L588[21:03:18] <AdorableCatgirl> finna get LCC to work on
the xdpu64
<AdorableCatgirl> finna get LCC to work on
the xdpu64L589[21:03:25] <AdorableCatgirl> and also then write the
assembler in C
<AdorableCatgirl> and also then write the
assembler in CL590[21:03:38] <Inari> least common
computable?
L591[21:07:25] <AdorableCatgirl> no
<AdorableCatgirl> noL592[21:09:06] <Inari> lewd catgirl
chests?
L593[21:09:39] <Amanda> Local Cat
Cuddles
L594[21:11:14] <Inari> It's a shame theres
no way to get sand and crafting automated in vanilla
L595[21:11:43] <Inari> Well thres sand
duplicators, but I mean without exploits that will probably be
patched out :p
L596[21:15:01] *
Skye puts a cat eared headband on Inari and places her into a
chest
L597[21:15:08] <Inari> Nyan
L598[21:17:33] <Kristopher38> @AdorableCatgirl I can help
if I get enough time
<Kristopher38> @AdorableCatgirl I can help
if I get enough timeL599[21:17:51] <AdorableCatgirl> trust me, some of this
architecture is pretty cursed
<AdorableCatgirl> trust me, some of this
architecture is pretty cursedL600[21:18:20] <Kristopher38> like, what parts :|
<Kristopher38> like, what parts :|L601[21:18:29] <AdorableCatgirl> jump/call encoding, for
one
<AdorableCatgirl> jump/call encoding, for
oneL602[21:18:42] <AdorableCatgirl> i almost shoved all of
the comparisons into one opcode
<AdorableCatgirl> i almost shoved all of
the comparisons into one opcodeL603[21:18:45] <AdorableCatgirl> but decided against
it
<AdorableCatgirl> but decided against
itL604[21:20:11] <Inari> Whatever happened
to Hytale btw
L605[21:23:37] <Kristopher38> I mean, opcodes are just
textual representation of binary data
<Kristopher38> I mean, opcodes are just
textual representation of binary dataL606[21:25:06] <Kristopher38> Don't know how your syntax
looks like but you could change their textual representation, i.e.
make one opcode into many, while keeping the binary representation
the same
<Kristopher38> Don't know how your syntax
looks like but you could change their textual representation, i.e.
make one opcode into many, while keeping the binary representation
the sameL607[21:30:09] *
Lizzian boops Skye
L608[21:30:22] *
Lizzian hides behind Amanda, pretends it wasn't her
L609[21:32:15] *
Amanda helps Skye find the mysterious booper
L610[21:32:33] <AdorableCatgirl> anyways, currently still
writing the assembler
<AdorableCatgirl> anyways, currently still
writing the assemblerL611[21:33:55] *
Amanda enlists trustworthy-cat Lizzian in the search as
well
L612[21:34:04] <Amanda> %8ball
cereal?
L613[21:34:05] <MichiBot> Amanda: Reply
hazy, try again
L614[21:34:08] <Amanda> %8ball
cereal?
L615[21:34:08] <MichiBot> Amanda: Ask
again later
L616[21:47:55] *
Skye bleps
L617[21:50:31] <AdorableCatgirl> oh, neat
<AdorableCatgirl> oh, neatL618[21:50:35] <AdorableCatgirl> this is easy to do
<AdorableCatgirl> this is easy to doL619[21:50:42] <AdorableCatgirl> there's a nice little
utility to help me generate stuff
<AdorableCatgirl> there's a nice little
utility to help me generate stuffL620[21:50:55] <AdorableCatgirl> `$ ./ops f=4 d=8 x=8 c=1
s=2 i=4 l=8 h=8 p=3`
<AdorableCatgirl> `$ ./ops f=4 d=8 x=8 c=1
s=2 i=4 l=8 h=8 p=3`L621[21:50:57] <AdorableCatgirl> <3
<AdorableCatgirl> <3L622[22:39:45] <payonel> @AdorableCatgirl
what's that about?
L623[22:39:49] <payonel> the ./ops
thing
L624[22:39:56] <AdorableCatgirl> type size
<AdorableCatgirl> type sizeL625[22:40:30] <AdorableCatgirl> f is floating point, d
is double, x is long double, c is char, s is short, i is int, l is
long, h is long long, p is pointer
<AdorableCatgirl> f is floating point, d
is double, x is long double, c is char, s is short, i is int, l is
long, h is long long, p is pointerL626[22:40:50] <AdorableCatgirl> i might make pointer a
32-bit value in code by a 24-bit value in "hardware" ike
the 68k
<AdorableCatgirl> i might make pointer a
32-bit value in code by a 24-bit value in "hardware" ike
the 68kL627[22:42:35] <AdorableCatgirl> *like
<AdorableCatgirl> *likeL628[22:42:44] <AdorableCatgirl> *like
<AdorableCatgirl> *likeL629[22:42:55] <payonel> *like
L630[22:45:33] <ThePiGuy24> *like
<ThePiGuy24> *likeL631[22:49:01] <AdorableCatgirl> nice
<AdorableCatgirl> niceL632[22:49:08] <AdorableCatgirl> thanks for the
doublepost, discord
<AdorableCatgirl> thanks for the
doublepost, discordL633[22:49:12] <AdorableCatgirl> i sure fucking love
it
<AdorableCatgirl> i sure fucking love
itL634[22:59:12] ⇦
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