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L2[00:31:14] <Mimiru> @payonel we don't look to have really interacted..
L3[00:31:30] <Mimiru> I think we like "by accident" helped a dude with a crash due to not enough permgen....
L4[00:31:36] <Mimiru> ugh permgen, I do NOT miss that
L5[00:31:43] <Mimiru> re: #cc
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L7[00:32:57] <Binary0> Hey guys.
L8[00:35:18] <Binary​Bandit> Anyone around that would be willing to clear up some stuff pertaining to the 3D printer?
L9[00:35:34] <M​GR> What's your question?
L10[00:36:08] <Binary​Bandit> Basically, the printer will start printing some models and then just stop.
L11[00:36:19] <M​GR> Have you checked that the code is still executing?
L12[00:36:20] <Binary​Bandit> I feel like I'm hitting some kind of limit but I can't think of a way to debug it.
L13[00:36:31] <Binary​Bandit> Yeah it's printing some stuff with no problems using the same code.
L14[00:37:22] <Binary​Bandit> Other things it starts printing and then will just stop like the printer is being told something to do that it can't.
L15[00:37:43] <Binary​Bandit> I can physically see the model starting correctly in the world model too.
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L17[01:14:45] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/2263:_Cicadas
L18[01:15:03] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> Crap. Wrong link.
L19[01:15:08] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> Well, whatever.
L20[01:48:53] <SaltyKa​waiiNeko> Recommend me a good library for making my first graphic apps please
L21[01:49:05] <SaltyKa​waiiNeko> The catch here is that I am dumb as a rock
L22[01:49:38] <SaltyKa​waiiNeko> So something easy enough for me to actually manage to ascend to the realm of GUIs
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L24[01:53:21] <Ar​iri> %tonk
L25[01:53:22] <MichiBot> Potzblitz! Ariri! You beat SquidDev's previous record of 3 hours, 48 minutes and 7 seconds (By 2 hours, 25 minutes and 51 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L26[01:53:23] <MichiBot> Ariri's new record is 6 hours, 13 minutes and 59 seconds! Ariri also gained 0.00972 (0.00243 x 4) tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L27[02:09:13] <gamax92> damn, quark takes up like 440 blocks and JEID is causing packet crashes
L28[02:40:38] <ThePi​Guy24> http://tinyurl.com/vjbtdx7
L29[02:43:20] <Klea​dron> omg
L30[02:46:16] <ThePi​Guy24> yes, there is 1062 frames that i have converted
L31[02:46:47] <ThePi​Guy24> with a little help from ffmpeg
L32[02:47:20] <Klea​dron> probably could have cropped the bars out and made it fit the screen more but oh well ¯\(ツ)/¯
L33[02:47:30] <ThePi​Guy24> eh im lazy
L34[02:48:51] <ThePi​Guy24> and for some reason PIL's dithering feature doesnt work
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L36[03:21:18] <Z​ef> That is fucking amazing and impressive @ThePiGuy24
L37[03:21:21] <Z​ef> Congratulations
L38[03:23:12] <ThePi​Guy24> :p
L39[03:42:04] <Z​ef> Didn't you join months ago with no experience or anything with programming?
L40[03:43:40] <Z​ef> And now you're achieving amazing things
L41[03:51:52] <ThePi​Guy24> nah i have quite a bit of programming experience
L42[03:52:07] <ThePi​Guy24> i just didnt have much experience with lua or oc
L43[04:40:06] <DaCompu​terNerd> clearly the next step is to add computronics compatibility and add sound
L44[04:46:36] <Ja​son> is there a way to have an API running its own thread?
L45[04:49:22] <CompanionCube> do you want parallelism or concurrency?
L46[04:51:02] <Ja​son> those are some nice words you used there, i thing parallelism
L47[04:51:07] <Ja​son> those are some nice words you used there, i think parallelism [Edited]
L48[04:51:46] <CompanionCube> then that is a no, OC does not have that type of computer
L49[04:52:30] <CompanionCube> but if you don't care about running *at the same time* what you want is concurrency, which can be done with coroutines
L50[04:53:43] <Ja​son> that explains why this was acting weird
L51[04:53:50] <Ja​son> i gotta go and redesign alot of this :/
L52[04:53:50] <MichiBot> ALOT: http://tinyurl.com/y42zurt
L53[04:55:50] <CompanionCube> to put it simply: there are no multicore computers, so you can't use threads to do things simultaneously like IRL
L54[04:56:24] <Ja​son> yeah, thats a shame,
L55[04:56:58] <CompanionCube> this isn't terribly restraining, many languages work like this even today
L56[04:57:13] <CompanionCube> but it can be a problem if you're not aware
L57[04:58:13] <CompanionCube> best you can do is a background coroutine that switches back and forth with the API caller or something like that
L58[05:07:47] <Ja​son> also doing rc file enable doesn't add it to the enable table
L59[05:07:55] <Ja​son> also doing *rc file enable* doesn't add it to the enable table [Edited]
L60[05:09:40] <payonel> BrightYC: poke
L61[05:10:47] <payonel> @Jason rc not working?
L62[05:10:57] <Ja​son> doesnt seem to be
L63[05:11:40] <BrightYC> payonel i test in new world, that's weird. I cannot reproduce bug. I don't have the same log =\
L64[05:12:05] <payonel> @jason `rc example enable` should add example to /etc/rc.cfg
L65[05:12:41] <payonel> BrightYC: but you have a world where this repro's consistently?
L66[05:13:29] <BrightYC> payonel not really, but in this world computers shutdown when i join in world
L67[05:13:58] <BrightYC> i have the same problem like romanok2805
L68[05:14:51] <payonel> except you don't have the same log
L69[05:14:58] <BrightYC> yeaah
L70[05:15:00] <payonel> mostly likely not not the same problem
L71[05:15:03] <payonel> not not not
L72[05:15:08] * payonel not derps
L73[05:15:20] <payonel> so when you join, the machines are shutdown
L74[05:15:30] <BrightYC> not always
L75[05:15:31] <payonel> what about when others, not you, join?
L76[05:15:51] <BrightYC> i mean when world loads
L77[05:15:56] <BrightYC> not join =d
L78[05:16:12] <BrightYC> and yeah, machines shutdown not always
L79[05:16:23] <payonel> ok, so world restart sometimes kills machines
L80[05:17:08] <BrightYC> https://hastebin.com/raw/dehizegaxi.css
L81[05:17:09] <BrightYC> modpack
L82[05:17:37] <payonel> can you copy the server dir, and in the copy remove all mods but OC - and test for repro?
L83[05:17:50] <payonel> if you can repro with only OC, my debugging life is much. much, easier
L84[05:17:59] <BrightYC> i can't reproduce, I do not influence it
L85[05:18:15] <payonel> i thought you said, sometimes world restarts can do it
L86[05:18:51] <BrightYC> most often when the world did not load for a long time
L87[05:19:09] <BrightYC> may be 1-2 hours
L88[05:20:48] <payonel> sorry, you are confusing restart world with load chunks
L89[05:21:22] <BrightYC> i know guy, who fixed it, i can give you a contact
L90[05:21:49] <payonel> he fixed it? like, built a new version of OC and it doesn't happen? .. ok hold on
L91[05:21:55] <payonel> just try to answer my questions first :)
L92[05:22:04] <payonel> when you stop the world, and start it up again, does it repro?
L93[05:22:11] <BrightYC> yes
L94[05:22:20] <BrightYC> but
L95[05:22:45] <BrightYC> sometimes, that's happens
L96[05:23:38] <payonel> ok, so can you copy the world, isolate OC jar, and restart the world until it repros?
L97[05:24:00] <payonel> then, if it repros, send me the world in a zip/tar ball
L98[05:24:05] <payonel> and i'll try to repro
L99[05:24:43] <BrightYC> i spammed it 15-20 times, its not reproducing when i spam
L100[05:25:10] <BrightYC> <payonel> he fixed it? like, built a new version of OC and it doesn't happen? .. ok hold on
L101[05:25:12] <payonel> how are you checking so quickly? don't you have to log in each time?
L102[05:25:28] <BrightYC> he rewrote the code
L103[05:25:45] <payonel> you pointed me to some code that needs to clean up uuid and drives
L104[05:25:54] <payonel> i would like to verify that fix myself, if you can repro it
L105[05:26:25] <payonel> it's not safe to just remove code without understand what that impacts
L106[05:30:57] <BrightYC> payone that's not my words, sorry for confusing https://pastebin.com/raw/pHkHRWYS (google translate + small adaptation=\)
L107[05:31:59] <payonel> ok sounds like you dont want to reduce the repro, which i can understand
L108[05:32:02] <payonel> that takes work. so i can do that
L109[05:32:19] <payonel> can you zip up the world can toss it my way? i can give you a private upload folder with password if you like
L110[05:33:19] <BrightYC> i can send my world and modpack in PM
L111[05:33:21] <BrightYC> wait
L112[05:33:41] <payonel> do you need an upload point?
L113[05:33:45] <BrightYC> nope
L114[05:34:09] <payonel> ok if you're not going to remove mods, feel free to bundle the whole thing
L115[05:34:17] <payonel> and if you would kindly tell me the gps of the computer that is dieing
L116[05:35:00] <BrightYC> i cant delete mods, its will break the world =\
L117[05:35:11] <payonel> that's why i said test that in a copy
L118[05:35:18] <payonel> but it's okay, just make sure to send me the whole server dir
L119[05:41:49] <payonel> BrightYC: on windows? take a look at 7zip
L120[05:41:52] <payonel> it's great
L121[05:43:23] <BrightYC> why you say it in public DD=
L122[05:43:45] <payonel> i said nothing else that could be personal or revealing :(
L123[05:43:57] <payonel> i haven't looked at your files yet, so i dont know if you're on windows
L124[05:44:11] <BrightYC> yeah i'm using windows
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L127[05:50:20] <payonel> BrightYC: what forge version?
L128[05:50:46] <BrightYC> forge-1.7.10-10.13.4.1614
L129[05:50:48] <BrightYC> latest
L130[05:54:44] <payonel> gps of bad pc?
L131[05:55:00] <BrightYC> gps?
L132[05:55:04] <BrightYC> i don't understand
L133[05:55:08] <payonel> xyz
L134[05:55:30] <BrightYC> shutdown all's pc, or 1-2
L135[05:55:33] <BrightYC> or 1
L136[05:58:06] <payonel> so you're saying i dont have to seach houses or caves or anything to find the maachines?
L137[05:58:16] <payonel> or, xyz is helpful
L138[05:58:32] <payonel> for the future, the more work you do to help a mod dev, the more likely they'll fix it :)
L139[05:58:41] <payonel> it's just that i care a lot about these types of failures :)
L140[06:00:15] <payonel> any trick to getting inside without breaking glass?
L141[06:03:41] <payonel> (btw, i just broke in)
L142[06:04:42] <BrightYC> xD
L143[06:05:06] <BrightYC> sorry for the long wait
L144[06:05:49] <BrightYC> i thought you spawn in glass house
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L146[06:17:53] <payonel> BrightYC: why isn't time moving on this server?
L147[06:18:20] <BrightYC> gamerule doDaylight cycle false
L148[06:18:26] <BrightYC> doDaylightCycle*
L149[06:18:36] <payonel> k
L150[06:18:39] <BrightYC> that's a problem?
L151[06:19:15] <payonel> nope, just curious
L152[06:40:14] <payonel> i've been logging in and out for a long time now, BrightYC
L153[06:40:21] <payonel> watching the logs for when the chunk unloads
L154[06:40:27] <payonel> then i log back in, to cause the chunk to load
L155[06:40:31] <payonel> it has never failed
L156[06:40:34] <BrightYC> =\
L157[06:43:44] <payonel> fingercomp: so what did you observe about the save handler? what error did you see, what change did you make
L158[06:43:59] <payonel> you should comment on the ticket about your thoughts
L159[06:45:10] <BrightYC> this change did not fingercomp
L160[06:45:25] <payonel> oh whoever did, tell them to comment on the ticket, please
L161[06:45:45] <BrightYC> he will not D=
L162[06:45:56] <BrightYC> this is the problem
L163[06:45:57] <payonel> oh, why?
L164[06:46:28] <BrightYC> greedy
L165[06:46:45] <payonel> then, ask him/her the questions i just asked of fingercomp
L166[06:46:50] <payonel> and share the info in the ticket
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L169[07:34:25] <Forec​aster> %tonk
L170[07:34:26] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Forecaster, you were not able to beat Ariri's record of 6 hours, 13 minutes and 59 seconds this time. 5 hours, 41 minutes and 4 seconds were wasted! Missed by 32 minutes and 55 seconds!
L171[07:34:31] <Forec​aster> dang
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L174[08:12:22] <Lizzian> %tonk
L175[08:12:23] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Lizzian, you were not able to beat Ariri's record of 6 hours, 13 minutes and 59 seconds this time. 37 minutes and 57 seconds were wasted! Missed by 5 hours, 36 minutes and 1 second!
L176[08:12:32] <Lizzian> dammit
L177[08:12:46] <Mimiru> o_O
L178[08:13:07] <Lizzian> oh
L179[08:13:14] <Lizzian> i didn't even see forecaster's attempt
L180[08:13:16] <Lizzian> :(
L181[08:21:41] <Forec​aster> %tonkattempts
L182[08:21:43] <MichiBot> You have 1 attempt left.
L183[08:36:25] <ThePi​Guy24> %tonkattempts
L184[08:36:26] <MichiBot> You have 2 attempts left.
L185[08:36:30] <ThePi​Guy24> hm
L186[08:38:10] <Izaya> consider:
L187[08:38:12] <Izaya> https://0x0.st/izYO.gif
L188[08:39:09] <Lizzian> where can i get one?
L189[08:39:49] <ThePi​Guy24> no
L190[08:40:00] <Izaya> I wish I knew.
L191[08:40:16] <Izaya> honestly a modern phone could probably do it
L192[08:40:28] <Izaya> not as well, perhaps, but it'd be basically functional
L193[08:40:36] <Forec​aster> that's clearly magic
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L195[08:49:02] <krinistof> hey guys
L196[08:49:15] <krinistof> is it possible to stop a running program?
L197[08:49:27] <krinistof> like in linux with Ctrl+C
L198[08:50:05] <ThePi​Guy24> ctrl+c works if you set up the program to exit on interrupts
L199[08:50:34] <ThePi​Guy24> otherwise ctrl+alt+c sometimes works
L200[08:51:02] <krinistof> it worked
L201[08:51:03] <krinistof> thanks
L202[08:51:14] <ThePi​Guy24> np
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L206[10:49:09] <Forec​aster> %sip
L207[10:49:10] <MichiBot> You drink a slimy unobtanium potion (New!). The bottle turns into an unobtanium dagger.
L208[10:50:57] <Forec​aster> huh, how appropriate
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L211[11:58:49] <DaCompu​terNerd> %sip
L212[11:58:50] <MichiBot> You drink a resonating crimson potion (New!). DaCompu​terNerd thinks "What if, like, *we* are the potions man?". This makes no sense whatsoever.
L213[12:13:54] <S3_> 좋은 아침
L214[12:14:27] <Forec​aster> %splash S3_
L215[12:14:29] <MichiBot> You fling a slimy red potion (New!) that splashes onto S3_. The next pie S3_ eats tastes slightly less good.
L216[12:14:37] <S3_> Lol
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L220[12:27:19] <DaCompu​terNerd> %sip
L221[12:27:20] <MichiBot> You drink a gloopy dalekanium potion (New!). DaCompu​terNerd feels slightly less agile.
L222[12:27:53] <ThePi​Guy24> %sip
L223[12:27:53] <MichiBot> You drink a sweet emerald potion (New!). ThePi​Guy24 looks confused as nothing happens.
L224[12:28:10] <ThePi​Guy24> just like in real life
L225[12:30:06] <Forec​aster> that means this is real life!
L226[12:30:14] <Forec​aster> reality implodes
L227[12:31:11] <ThePi​Guy24> ah fuck not again
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L232[13:31:30] <expert975> Why is computronics a separated mod?
L233[13:31:50] <DaCompu​terNerd> it's by a different person?
L234[13:32:38] <Forec​aster> there was a very messy divorce
L235[13:32:45] <Forec​aster> and some heads chopped off
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L239[13:53:21] <Inari> %pet Amanda
L240[13:53:21] <MichiBot> Inari is petting Amanda with Goodn't. Amanda regains 1d4 => 2 hit points!
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L242[14:48:30] <Inari> https://www.reddit.com/r/aww/comments/eypbjd/check_out_this_cool_place_i_just_found/
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L244[14:53:06] <Amanda> Inari: the crafty good moves herself and the mark to where there's no witnesses
L245[14:53:21] <Amanda> s/good/fox/
L246[14:53:21] <MichiBot> <Amanda> Inari: the crafty fox moves herself and the mark to where there's no witnesses
L247[15:00:30] <Kristo​pher38> Is there a way to differentiate if two items are the same and would stack with each other?
L248[15:01:22] <Amanda> I don't think that's directly exposed in OC, no
L249[15:01:46] <Amanda> You could just try and put them in the same slot, but that'd not account for stack limits
L250[15:04:41] <Kristo​pher38> obviously I can compare info from getStackInInternalSlot but that's insufficient, one example is hard drives, if they're not in managed mode they can be stacked freely, but when in managed mode, maxSize is still 64, yet you can't stack them (also they both have nbt tags, same label and same name)
L251[15:05:56] <Kristo​pher38> (a counterexample to this would be an arrow with a potion effect applied, they too have nbt tags, same label and same name but they're stackable)
L252[15:07:18] <Amanda> it'snot reallyt managed/unmanged for drievs,so much as if any data's been put on it
L253[15:07:31] <Amanda> including changing it's mode
L254[15:40:31] * Inari feeds Amanda some elpehant
L255[15:40:43] <Amanda> D:
L256[15:40:51] <Amanda> Elephants are friend, not food!
L257[15:41:14] <Inari> Everything's food once it's dead
L258[15:46:16] <Amanda> Right, so that's permimssion to nom you when you die, then? :3
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L261[15:55:01] <payonel> i thought drive stacking was based on whether it has a uuid or not
L262[15:55:22] <Inari> %pet payonel
L263[15:55:22] <MichiBot> Inari is brushing payonel with a suspiciously warm Pentium III CPU. payonel regains 1d6 => 4 hit points!
L264[15:55:43] * payonel nuzzles inari's petting hand
L265[16:05:36] <Kristo​pher38> payonel is right
L266[16:06:02] * Inari pokes the pins into payonel
L267[16:06:03] <Kristo​pher38> though if it's in managed mode, there's 512 bytes in use from the beginning
L268[16:06:15] <Kristo​pher38> boot sector or something I assume
L269[16:11:18] <payonel> Inari: :|
L270[16:14:55] <Amanda> payonel: may I introduce, %bite
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L285[17:10:46] <Amanda> %choose space cats or something else?
L286[17:10:46] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: If I had a gold nugget for every time someone asked me about "something else?"
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L288[17:29:58] <Mimiru> 25k lines from 2mil
L289[17:30:03] <Mimiru> c'mon be chatty.
L290[17:30:04] <Mimiru> :P
L291[17:31:53] <payonel> Mimiru: hi
L292[17:31:57] <payonel> Mimiru: how
L293[17:31:58] <payonel> Mimiru: are
L294[17:32:00] <payonel> Mimiru: you?
L295[17:35:02] <Inari> i
L296[17:35:03] <Inari> a
L297[17:35:03] <Inari> m
L298[17:35:05] <Inari> f
L299[17:35:05] <Inari> i]
L300[17:35:07] <Inari> n
L301[17:35:07] <Inari> e
L302[17:35:28] <Inari> writing like that is harder than it looks
L303[17:35:39] <Mimiru> I'm
L304[17:35:40] <Mimiru> Good
L305[17:35:42] <Mimiru> payonel,
L306[17:35:43] <Mimiru> thanks
L307[17:35:44] <Mimiru> for
L308[17:35:45] <Mimiru> asking!
L309[17:36:38] <Mimiru> I
L310[17:36:39] <Mimiru> agree
L311[17:36:42] <Mimiru> Inari.
L312[17:36:53] <Inari> You didn't even do one-letter lines!
L313[17:38:43] <bauen1> please, you can only use a single '1' or '0' per message
L314[17:39:47] <Inari> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/309529094452936705/674306701360627712/83862422_130350185144173_2287463186296733696_o.png?width=702&height=702
L315[17:43:18] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L316[17:43:19] <MichiBot> Heckgosh! CompanionCube! You beat Ariri's previous record of 6 hours, 13 minutes and 59 seconds (By 3 hours, 16 minutes and 56 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L317[17:43:20] <MichiBot> CompanionCube's new record is 9 hours, 30 minutes and 55 seconds! CompanionCube also gained 0.02296 (0.00328 x 7) tonk points for stealing the tonk.
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L321[18:30:07] <Amanda> So, who'd have thunk, a 5 pack of 32G microSD cards aren't going to be very good quality. Or my SD reader is dying
L322[18:31:20] <bauen1> how do you kill an SD reader ?
L323[18:31:42] <bauen1> that seems like one of the few parts that should last quite a bit and has no moving parts ...
L324[18:32:29] <Amanda> bauen1: I've had it happen before, Just shitty connections in the drive, the pins wear down
L325[18:32:34] <Amanda> s/drive/port/
L326[18:32:34] <MichiBot> <Amanda> bauen1: I've had it happen before, Just shitty connections in the port, the pins wear down
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L331[18:55:32] <Kristo​pher38> @payonel if inventory controller reports drive in managed mode to have maxSize = 64 where in fact it's not stackable should that be considered a bug?
L332[18:56:07] <bauen1> you can stack them in creative mode (before they have a uuid) iirc
L333[18:57:01] <Mimiru> ^
L334[18:57:17] <Kristo​pher38> I know, uuid means the drive is in managed mode and can't be stacked
L335[18:57:24] <Mimiru> IIRC once they have any metadata that makes them different MC won't let them stack even if the stack size is set to 64
L336[18:57:26] <Kristo​pher38> without uuid it can be stacked
L337[18:57:45] <Mimiru> uuid != Managed
L338[18:57:47] <Kristo​pher38> I just want the maxSize reported by inventory controller to be consistent
L339[18:57:51] <Amanda> UUID has nothing to do with managed mode, If you place it in a drive, it'll gain a UUID also
L340[18:57:53] <Mimiru> all oc components get uuids
L341[18:58:37] <Kristo​pher38> Amanda: and will also be switched to managed mode automatically
L342[18:58:52] <Amanda> that doesn't mean it's connected.
L343[18:59:07] <Amanda> managed mode isn't what makes it unstackable, it's gaining a UUID
L344[18:59:10] <Kristo​pher38> my bad
L345[18:59:29] <Kristo​pher38> I thought drives without UUID meant unmanaged
L346[18:59:50] <Mimiru> does a crafted HDD in survival not have a UUID by default? I thought the onCreate method assigned them
L347[19:00:25] <Mimiru> I know grabbing them in the creative menu bypasses that, and I know you can clone a drive and keep the same UUID (which leads to ALL KINDS OF FUN)
L348[19:02:05] <Mimiru> Hmm, may have just got a co-worker in trouble...
L349[19:02:16] <ThePi​Guy24> the get assigned a UUID when put in a device
L350[19:02:19] <Mimiru> well.. they got themself in trouble, I just pointed it out
L351[19:02:21] <Kristo​pher38> @Mimiru just checked on survival, it doesn't assing uuid on crafting
L352[19:02:24] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> i need to get back into OC stufg
L353[19:02:27] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> *stuff
L354[19:02:46] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> make tsuki
L355[19:02:48] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> foxfs
L356[19:02:53] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> zorya neo
L357[19:02:55] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> etc
L358[19:02:59] <Mimiru> I've not played MC in... forever
L359[19:03:05] <Mimiru> also poor Neo getting pinged all the time
L360[19:03:35] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> oof
L361[19:03:38] <Kristo​pher38> anyway my issue still holds, reported maxSize for drives with uuid is wrong
L362[19:03:50] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> zorya is fun tho
L363[19:03:54] <ThePi​Guy24> imma make a jukebox program for a tape drive
L364[19:04:04] <ThePi​Guy24> to automatically play tapes
L365[19:04:16] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> multithreading in the BIOS B)
L366[19:04:40] <Amanda> @Kristopher38 except it's not. the MC item's assigned maxSize, which is what it's reporting, is 64. It's not changable once the item is created.
L367[19:04:52] <Mimiru> ^
L368[19:05:27] <Amanda> There was talk about maybe some database upgrade addition canStack or similar, butI don't think it got anywhere
L369[19:05:33] <Kristo​pher38> that's unfortunate :|
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L371[19:05:42] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> you can technically stack them
L372[19:05:58] <Kristo​pher38> except you can't
L373[19:06:29] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> what, drives?
L374[19:06:41] <Kristo​pher38> drives with uuid
L375[19:06:47] <Amanda> Try crafting two drives atonce. You'll have a stack of two of them, until they get assigned a UUID
L376[19:07:11] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> can't you dupe em in creative and they stack?
L377[19:08:02] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> anyways, i also need to make a zorya loader to load from a PROM card
L378[19:08:09] <Amanda> The thing that stops you from stacking two UUID-having devices is the same that stops you from stacking two non-empty buckets
L379[19:08:17] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> actually
L380[19:08:33] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> i might just make it load core files from a romfs image
L381[19:08:51] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> a compressed romfs image
L382[19:09:06] <Mimiru> and that thing is Minecraft :P
L383[19:09:46] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> that way, i can just have it load from anything as long as you have tmpfs or a lot of memory
L384[19:10:37] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> Izaya: galaxy brain: boot zyneo over zlan
L385[19:11:29] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> then boot an OS over zlan
L386[19:11:41] <Kristo​pher38> Amanda: at least non-empty bucket has a maxSize of 1 instead of 16 like empty bucket would have
L387[19:11:55] <Kristo​pher38> so I know they aren't stackable
L388[19:12:02] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> but the only thing stopping me is the configuration
L389[19:12:14] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> actually, i could probably use frequest
L390[19:12:25] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> or zlan.........
L391[19:12:45] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> bidirectional zlan
L392[19:12:48] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> oh yeah
L393[19:13:15] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> tbh if i i do that
L394[19:13:29] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> i'd have to overhaul the protocol again
L395[19:14:08] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> and make it more responsive
L396[19:14:15] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> which isn't hard to do, really
L397[19:14:54] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> might start on that now
L398[19:15:05] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> zlan v3.0:
L399[19:15:18] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> now with config support
L400[19:27:35] <Mimiru> zlan 4.0 now with good config support.
L401[19:27:37] <Mimiru> :P
L402[19:28:13] <Kristo​pher38> well, there is actually a function to differentiate if the two items have matching nbt tags
L403[19:28:32] <Kristo​pher38> inventory_controller.compareStacks
L404[19:28:44] <Kristo​pher38> it works only on external inventories though
L405[19:35:23] <Kristo​pher38> aaand it also exists for internal inventory as robot.compareTo
L406[19:36:08] <Kristo​pher38> wish the wiki was more up to date and I didn't have to go through the source code to find that it also supports checkNBT as an optional parameter
L407[19:36:22] <Kristo​pher38> (or the ingame doc)
L408[19:40:25] <Mimiru> Well, remember the wiki *is* editable… *cough*
L409[19:40:47] <Mimiru> And hey, the mod is open source, and the in game docs are *right* there, a PR away from updated.
L410[19:44:42] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> i have completely redone the proto again
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L413[19:45:04] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> but hey, now you have response codes and authentication
L414[19:51:40] <Kristo​pher38> I'll get around to updating the wiki sometime
L415[21:11:41] <payonel> @Kristo​pher38 yes please do :)
L416[21:11:55] <payonel> also, if you found some weirdness with inventory api, it could be a bug
L417[21:12:05] <Kristo​pher38> or at least the pages that I'm knowledgeable on
L418[21:13:33] <Amanda> payonel: pretty sure it's not a bug, per say, just unexpected exposure of the MC "engine" to OC userland
L419[21:13:40] <Kristo​pher38> it's just that max stack size (maxSize) isn't updated when the drive gets an UUID, but Amanda said it's not possible to change it after an item has been created so that's fair
L420[21:14:32] <Kristo​pher38> I found a workaround for my problem anyway
L421[21:14:42] <Amanda> payonel: They're trying to check if something can stack ontop of something else, which is a bit of a clustertruck atm. ISTR there was proposals for canStack or similar, or always exporting a hash of the NBT data, but I don't think that got anywhere
L422[21:15:17] <Nuclea​rMayhem> i just got back to OC after spending a long time getting late in a game whit a friend, just to derp around whit an old program whic i made just for me to forget how to use it trying to bugfix my own stupidity
L423[21:15:59] <Nuclea​rMayhem> past me forgot to include a note that the arguments go in before you start the program not in the little dialog window of mine
L424[21:16:01] <Kristo​pher38> Amanda: You can do robot.compareTo(slot, true) which also checks if the nbt tags are, I believe, identical so the items can stack
L425[21:16:33] <Amanda> Pretty sure that just checks if the block in front is the same as the block in slot
L426[21:16:39] <Kristo​pher38> nope
L427[21:17:05] <payonel> ah, the stack info with stack size for a uuid-assigned drive should be max of 1
L428[21:17:09] <payonel> that's what you're saying?
L429[21:17:32] <Kristo​pher38> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/blob/cca7f202d5040156bf93a0ef687fd6447fbfd07d/src/main/scala/li/cil/oc/server/component/traits/InventoryControl.scala#L41
L430[21:17:48] <Kristo​pher38> payonel: yes, that's exactly what I'm saying
L431[21:18:00] <payonel> open a ticket, i'll take a look tonight
L432[21:18:25] <Kristo​pher38> sure
L433[21:18:50] <Amanda> I'm not sure that can be fixed, other than giving uuid-assigned drives their own item. Or doing some patching in the inventory serialiser
L434[21:19:12] <Kristo​pher38> ^
L435[21:19:29] <payonel> yep, that's my thinking too
L436[21:19:37] <payonel> but it's worth a step through
L437[21:19:41] <Kristo​pher38> I'm okay if this isn't fixable without a lot of hassle
L438[21:19:56] <payonel> especially in 1.12, SO many things have extra polymorphic hooks
L439[21:20:02] <Kristo​pher38> yeah, I'll write a ticket in a minute
L440[21:37:22] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> https://whynotsecurity.com/blog/teamviewer/
L441[21:52:41] <ThePi​Guy24> rip
L442[21:53:04] <Kristo​pher38> done
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L444[23:03:36] <Amanda> %8ball space cats?
L445[23:03:36] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Signs point to yes
L446[23:12:50] <Amanda> Rain box first.
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