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<Paradoxical> Updated OETF #18 to use
signals instead of files since I'm an idiot and forgot signals can
do things
L9[01:48:13] <CompanionCube> %tonkout
L10[01:48:14] <MichiBot> Jeepers!
CompanionCube! You beat Paradoxical's previous record of 3 hours,
46 minutes and 4 seconds (By 17 minutes and 1 second)! I hope
you're happy!
L11[01:48:15] <MichiBot> CompanionCube has
stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.004 tonk
points! plus 0.003 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to
50% because stealing) Current score: 1.77425
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L16[02:25:02] zsh
sets mode: +v on MichiBot
L17[02:25:12]
<Forecaster>
%tonk
L18[02:25:44] <MichiBot> Aw jeez!
Forecaster! You beat CompanionCube's previous record of <0 (By
37 minutes and 28 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L19[02:25:45] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new
record is 37 minutes and 28 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.00062
tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L20[02:26:37]
<Forecaster>
%roll d12
L21[02:26:37] <MichiBot> 5
L22[02:26:45]
<Forecaster>
%roll d12+2
L23[02:26:46] <MichiBot> 7+2 => 9
L24[02:27:12]
<Forecaster>
%roll (d12+2+(d6-1))
L25[02:27:12] <MichiBot> (9+2+(6-1)) =>
16
L26[02:28:10]
<Forecaster>
%roll 2d12*2
L27[02:28:11] <MichiBot> [11,2]*2 =>
26
L28[02:29:53]
<Forecaster>
one thing I know that will confuse it
L29[02:30:01]
<Forecaster>
%roll d6d6+2
L30[02:30:01] <MichiBot> [4,6,3]+2 =>
15
L31[02:30:36]
<Forecaster>
oh interesting
L32[02:30:51]
<Forecaster>
apparently the first d6 rolled a 3, turning the second into
3d6
L33[02:31:11]
<Forecaster>
%roll d6d6
L34[02:31:12] <MichiBot> [3,6] =>
9
L35[02:31:21]
<Forecaster>
did not expect that...
L36[03:34:54]
<Forecaster>
%tonk
L37[03:34:54] <MichiBot> Waesucks!
Forecaster! You beat your own previous record of 37 minutes and 28
seconds (By 31 minutes and 44 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L38[03:34:55] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new
record is 1 hour, 9 minutes and 12 seconds! No points gained for
stealing from yourself. (Lost out on 0.00053)
L39[04:09:31] <bauen1> @AdorableCatgirl i
already wrote a (crappy) component implementation for
ICBM-Classic
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L42[04:48:59] zsh
sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L43[05:43:37] <Lizzy> %tonk
L44[05:43:37] <MichiBot> Aw jeez! Lizzy!
You beat Forecaster's previous record of 1 hour, 9 minutes and 12
seconds (By 59 minutes and 29 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L45[05:43:38] <MichiBot> Lizzy's new record
is 2 hours, 8 minutes and 42 seconds! Lizzy also gained 0.00198
(0.00099 x 2) tonk points for stealing the tonk.
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L49[07:27:12]
<EcmaXp> i'm
still alive but too busy T_T
L50[07:27:29] <Lizzy> %tonkout
L51[07:27:29] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Lizzy,
you were not able to beat Lizzy's record of 2 hours, 8 minutes and
42 seconds this time. 1 hour, 43 minutes and 52 seconds were
wasted! Missed by 24 minutes and 50 seconds!
L52[07:27:34] <Lizzy> Ah fuck
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L55[08:23:51] <Daniel2> dose anyone know an
active and oc focued serv?
L56[08:23:59] <Daniel2> *server
L57[08:24:34]
<Bob> this
one
L58[08:24:34]
<Bob>
bruh
L59[08:24:38]
<Bob>
literally Official OC IRC
L60[08:24:44]
<Bob> there
are also OC forums
L61[08:27:14] <Daniel2> every server in the
"Servers" topic in the forum is dead ore inactive
L62[08:29:43]
<Bob> there
can be servers but they just aren't promoted there
L63[08:29:46]
<Bob>
probably private
L64[08:29:55]
<Bob> look
for modpacks then with O cnad those servers
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L66[09:13:45]
<DaComputerNerd> %tonk
L67[09:13:45] <MichiBot> I'm sorry
DaComputerNerd, you were not able to beat Lizzy's record of 2
hours, 8 minutes and 42 seconds this time. 1 hour, 46 minutes and
15 seconds were wasted! Missed by 22 minutes and 26 seconds!
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L71[09:54:55]
<AdorableCatgirl> thanks igbo
L72[09:55:25]
<AdorableCatgirl> btw izaya: i seem to have
finally written stable software
L73[09:55:38] <bauen1> lol
L74[09:56:13]
<AdorableCatgirl> now i'm gonna switch a
friend's textboard to use PostgreSQL instead of MySQL because lmao
time to learn Ruby
L77[10:20:22]
<AdorableCatgirl> hell yes
L78[10:20:45]
<AdorableCatgirl> Izaya: also i'm gonna
start planning out an NPP soon™
L79[10:21:36] <Izaya> NPP?
L80[10:21:41] <Izaya> Notepad Plus
Plus?
L81[10:21:54]
<AdorableCatgirl> nuclear power plant
L82[10:22:05] <Izaya> oh no
L83[10:22:10]
<AdorableCatgirl> oh yeah
L84[10:22:17] <Izaya> do I need to dig up
more skystone
L85[10:23:14]
<AdorableCatgirl> nah, iirc Extreme
Reactors doesn't have meltdowns
L86[10:23:17]
<AdorableCatgirl> sadly
L87[10:23:48]
<AdorableCatgirl> that's one thing I liked
about ReactorCraft, there was so many ways things could go
wrong
L88[11:19:44]
<Zef> igbo
is the best language
L89[11:23:54] <Lizzy> %tonkout
L90[11:23:55] <MichiBot> Goshhawk! Lizzy!
You beat your own previous record of 2 hours, 8 minutes and 42
seconds (By 1 minute and 27 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L91[11:23:56] <MichiBot> Lizzy has tonked
out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.002 tonk points! plus 0.002
bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 0.61273
L92[11:23:58] <Lizzy> YES
L93[11:39:26]
<Zef> Would
it be safe to assume that my motherboard, ram, HDDs and CPU use a
total of 150W if my CPU is rated for 95W?
L94[11:40:30]
<Zef> I'm
trying to see what my possible limits are
L95[11:42:26]
<AdorableCatgirl> i mean i got a 650W PSU
for a C2Q build that barely pushes 200W
L96[11:42:39]
<AdorableCatgirl> but that's because it was
available at a local best buy for cheap
L97[11:43:11]
<AdorableCatgirl> in all seriousness tho,
seeing as my CPU had the 135W TDP
L98[11:43:24]
<DaComputerNerd> Is 95W the TDP?
L99[11:43:29]
<Paradoxical> I have a 450W for a computer
that roughly takes 200 or 300W
L100[11:43:33]
<DaComputerNerd> Because that's thermal,
not power consunption
L101[11:44:01]
<AdorableCatgirl> I'm seeing 165W for total
power consumption of the G0 Q6600
L102[11:44:07]
<Paradoxical> also PCPartPicker has a nice
function where you can estimate the power consumption of a
build
L103[11:44:10]
<AdorableCatgirl> add some for the fact
it's OC'd
L104[11:44:31]
<AdorableCatgirl> I'd always say like 150W
extra
L105[11:44:38]
<AdorableCatgirl> for whatever your CPU
needs
L106[11:44:41]
<AdorableCatgirl> but that's just me
L107[11:44:46]
<Zef> I
found an online tool, and even without the GPU I have now it's
recommending a 400W PSU
L108[11:44:56]
<DaComputerNerd> And then graphics cards
can make a big difference
L109[11:44:57]
<Zef> I have
a 500W PSU, and I want to upgrade my GPU
L110[11:45:10]
<AdorableCatgirl> i mean
L111[11:45:12]
<Zef> Yeahh
with my GPU it's recommending 460W
L112[11:45:19]
<AdorableCatgirl> 600W is probably
safe
L113[11:45:19]
<Zef> So I'm
already at my limit
L114[11:45:33]
<DaComputerNerd> I'd go at least 500
L115[11:45:45]
<Zef> I have
a 500W PSU
L116[11:45:57]
<Zef> I
wanted to see what my upgrade options for my GPU were
L117[11:46:09]
<Zef> But
considering I'm already near the limit, I don't really have
any
L118[11:48:36]
<DaComputerNerd> Yeeaaaa
L119[11:48:52]
<DaComputerNerd> Microcenter had a good
sale on some PSUs when I went the other day
L120[11:49:10]
<DaComputerNerd> Got a modular 650W supply
for like $60
L121[12:13:48] <bauen1> %remindme 3d
implement a 'trusting trust' attack using luacomp and something
that uses it e.g. Tsuki
L122[12:13:49] <MichiBot> I'll remind you
about "implement a 'trusting trust' attack using luacomp and
something that uses it e.g. Tsuki" at 11/27/2019 12:13:49
PM
L123[12:15:46]
<AdorableCatgirl> huh
L124[12:15:47]
<AdorableCatgirl> neat
L125[12:15:59]
<AdorableCatgirl> bauen1: hmu on any
progress
L126[12:17:28] <bauen1> @AdorableCatgirl
master of OC-Tsuki fails with luacomp (master): ERROR:
ksrc/swap.lua:2: Invalid directive name `require'
L127[12:17:34] <bauen1> @AdorableCatgirl
will do
L128[12:17:50]
<AdorableCatgirl> wut
L129[12:18:00]
<AdorableCatgirl> weirderror.jpog
L130[12:18:13]
<AdorableCatgirl> also i have no clue if
tsuki even compiles in it's current state
L131[12:18:27] <bauen1> it does not
L132[12:18:45]
<DaComputerNerd> you can't even use require
at that level?
L133[12:18:47]
<AdorableCatgirl> OH
L134[12:18:49]
<AdorableCatgirl> IT'S REQUIRE
L135[12:18:55]
<AdorableCatgirl> it should be
`include`
L136[12:19:13]
<AdorableCatgirl> @DaComputerNerd
preprocessor directive
L137[12:19:19]
<DaComputerNerd> i see
L138[12:20:47] <bauen1> it most certainly
doesn't work :/
L139[12:20:49]
<AdorableCatgirl> bauen1: Thanks for
bringing a typo to my attention :P
L140[12:21:08] <bauen1> oh wait
maybe
L141[12:21:12]
<AdorableCatgirl> It won't run
L142[12:21:15]
<AdorableCatgirl> That's for sure
L143[12:21:27]
<AdorableCatgirl> and i'm 90% positive the
minifier won't work
L144[12:22:32]
<AdorableCatgirl> if you installed luamin,
that is
L145[12:23:42] <bauen1> i don't think i
did
L146[12:23:57] <bauen1> anyway don't quite
have a lot of time for this right now so i'll try it again in a few
days
L147[12:24:45]
<AdorableCatgirl> ye
L148[12:24:50]
<AdorableCatgirl> luamin isn't
required
L149[12:24:57]
<AdorableCatgirl> unless you wanna use
-mluamin
L152[12:48:55]
<Paradoxical> nvm, it was just my cursor
control code, got it working
L153[12:51:42]
<AdorableCatgirl> i've got an idea for an
NPP on Ariri's server now
L154[12:51:48]
<AdorableCatgirl> ofc it's gonna be some
late game shit but w e w
L155[13:11:24] <Inari> Whats a NPP
L156[13:11:36] <AmandaC> Nuclear Power
Plant
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L158[13:20:47]
<Forecaster>
%inv add nuclear power cat
L159[13:20:48] *
MichiBot summons 'nuclear power cat' and adds to her inventory.
This seems very sturdy.
L160[13:21:01]
<Forecaster>
%rateitem att nuclear power cat
L161[13:21:03] <MichiBot> This item's
damage die is a d4! It has an attack bonus of +1, (Power -1,
Nuclear +2).
L162[13:21:20]
<Forecaster>
wait, why is power -1
L163[13:22:24] <Inari> %blame
Forecaster
L164[13:22:26] *
MichiBot blames Forecaster for the existence of wasps!
L165[13:24:51]
<Forecaster>
someone else could have put that in o3o
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L169[13:37:24] <Elfi> %rateitem att
sparkling scalebomb
L170[13:37:25] <MichiBot> This item's
damage die is a d4! It has no attack bonuses.
L171[13:37:49] <Inari> It's an Elfi!
L172[13:37:59] <Elfi> It's an Inari!
L173[13:38:00]
<Forecaster>
iElf
L174[13:38:10] <Inari> %pet Elfi
L175[13:38:10] <MichiBot> Inari is
brushing Elfi with (NULL). Elfi regains 1d4 = 3 hit points!
L176[13:38:13] <Elfi> %inv add explosive
acorns
L177[13:38:13] *
MichiBot summons 'explosive acorns' and adds to her inventory. I
could get some good swings in with this.
L178[13:38:24] <Elfi> %rateitem att
explosive acorns
L179[13:38:24] <MichiBot> This item's
damage die is a d4! It has no attack bonuses.
L180[13:38:28] <Elfi> Whaaat, come
on
L181[13:38:41] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L182[13:38:41] <MichiBot> Voldemort!
CompanionCube! You beat Lizzy's previous record of <0 (By 2
hours, 14 minutes and 46 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L183[13:38:42] <MichiBot> CompanionCube's
new record is 2 hours, 14 minutes and 46 seconds! CompanionCube
also gained 0.00225 tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L184[13:38:58]
<Forecaster>
check the source for the keywords, if some are missing make a
ticket or something
L185[14:01:43]
<AdorableCatgirl> i know how to scare
izaya
L187[14:03:16]
<AdorableCatgirl> imagine, for a second,
you're the engineer who has to work on this
L188[14:03:22]
<AdorableCatgirl> what do
L189[14:04:50]
<Vaur> I had
a bad experience with those cables
L190[14:04:57]
<Vaur> they
kept breaking in lazy chunks
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L192[14:11:54] <Elfi> For one, I would
arrange it in a MUCH more manageable and aesthetically pleasing
structure
L193[14:11:58] <Elfi> Because this is
ugly
L194[14:12:02] <Elfi> Absolutely ugly and
unworkable.
L195[14:12:05] <Elfi> Prone to all sorts
of faults
L196[14:12:36] <Lizzy> it'd probably be
more efficient to just group some of the HV connects before putting
them into the AF transofrmers. I think you can have up to 4 HV
connectors all at max capacity feeding in and it wont break the HV
line
L197[14:12:45] <Elfi> I'd make a proper
electrical substation if it's gonna be like that
L198[14:13:53] <Inari> @AdorableCatgirl
less creative doing, more survival playing
L199[14:13:53] <Inari> :D
L200[14:14:28]
<AdorableCatgirl> wait
L201[14:14:48]
<AdorableCatgirl> so i can hook up
multiple--yeah so
L202[14:15:01]
<AdorableCatgirl> turns out i'm a little
slow on the uptake
L203[14:15:05] <Elfi> Well, at least
that's obviously a test world
L204[14:15:22] <Elfi> Am I weird for
focusing on aesthetic even in survival, btw?
L205[14:15:28]
<AdorableCatgirl> nah
L206[14:15:35] <Elfi> Or rather especially
on survival
L207[14:15:58] <Inari> Elfi: Thats my
point
L208[14:16:00]
<AdorableCatgirl> Lizzy: also wait what do
you mean group HV connects?
L209[14:16:00] <Lizzy> for each of those
columns on your reactor you just need a single AF transformer
(would probably need to group them using a HV relay first)
L210[14:16:03] <Inari> Don't make
"testworlds"
L211[14:16:07] <Inari> Test out stuff in
actaul worlds
L212[14:16:08]
<AdorableCatgirl> oh
L213[14:16:09]
<AdorableCatgirl> okay
L214[14:16:23]
<AdorableCatgirl> i'm making a testworld so
i don't waste resources
L215[14:16:30] <Inari> Oh no
L216[14:16:35] <Inari> The resources
L217[14:16:38] <Inari> They're so
limited
L218[14:16:40] <Inari> Whatever will you
do
L219[14:16:50]
<AdorableCatgirl> shut
L220[14:17:14] <Lizzy> idk if you can add
more than one connection to the AF transformer, been a while since
i played with it
L221[14:18:33]
<AdorableCatgirl> okay
L222[14:18:37]
<AdorableCatgirl> so i did the relay
thing
L223[14:18:42]
<AdorableCatgirl> it's still messy but
w/e
L224[14:18:58]
<AdorableCatgirl> not like it was
L225[14:25:54]
<AdorableCatgirl> turns out
L226[14:26:04]
<AdorableCatgirl> standing near the step up
station is hazardous to your health
L227[14:26:08]
<AdorableCatgirl> who would have
known
L228[14:28:09]
<AdorableCatgirl> i just figured out an
idea for mob farming
L229[14:37:36] <Elfi> Yeah, this is why a
properly-designed substation isn't just aesthetically pleasing but
also good for your health
L230[14:38:03] <Elfi> Intentionally
designing it into a death trap is not the way you want to go about
this
L231[14:38:11] <Inari> Shame you can't
"short" (i.e. make the elctricity skip a part of the
wire) powerlines in MC
L232[14:38:55] <Elfi> Might be possible to
patch it as such, who knows
L233[14:39:10] <Inari> %pet Elfi
L234[14:39:10] <MichiBot> Inari is
brushing Elfi with the crab emoji ?. Elfi regains 1d4 = 1 hit
points!
L235[14:44:45]
<AdorableCatgirl> so uh
L236[14:44:54]
<AdorableCatgirl> i'm just testing AF
wires
L237[14:45:08]
<AdorableCatgirl> and i wanna test if i
really can make mob grinders with it
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L241[15:12:26]
<MGR> Wow, I
didn't even know Lua 5.4 is out
L242[15:12:32] <Vexatos> it's not
L243[15:13:05] <asie> it's not
L244[15:13:08] <asie> it's in beta
L245[15:13:10] <asie> which is good enough
for testing
L246[15:13:13]
<MGR>
Oh
L247[15:13:18]
<MGR>
Ok
L248[15:13:22] <asie> obviously, Lua 5.4
will only enter mainstream OC when it's out properly
L249[15:13:28] <asie> not as a beta
L250[15:13:29]
<zeta0134>
Well, I did this and got all excited, and @AlchemicRaker asked me
to share it here. But then I found nicovideo. Ah well, it was still
a fun way to spend the weekend
http://tinyurl.com/rm68l2x
L251[15:13:39]
<Bob>
lul
L252[15:13:44]
<Bob> get
Asie's fork
L253[15:13:49] <asie> @zeta0134 well
L254[15:14:01] <asie> let me up the
bar
L255[15:14:19]
<zeta0134>
On the plus, it does maintain 20 FPS, within the constraints of a
tier 1 display and a tier 2 HDD, with default OC settings
L256[15:14:36] <asie> no, like
L257[15:14:40] <Vexatos> uh
L259[15:14:51] <MichiBot>
Better Than
Minecon 2016 - Opening Ceremony | length:
14m 6s |
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Published On 2/1/2016
L260[15:14:52] <asie> you need to see
this
L261[15:15:03] <asie> (the lag in the
video is because we were running on 16 TPS)
L262[15:15:03] <Vexatos> >jan 2
2016
L263[15:15:04] <Vexatos> ouch
L264[15:15:09] <Vexatos> it's been a
while
L265[15:15:17] <asie> also that moment is
literally 100% Vexatos's fault
L266[15:15:19] <asie> i'm not even
joking
L267[15:15:30] <Vexatos> this is
true
L268[15:15:38] <asie> even though he wrote
no code to make it happen
L269[15:15:44] <Vexatos> this is also
true
L270[15:16:02]
<zeta0134>
Wow
L271[15:16:13]
<Forecaster>
sips loudly
L273[15:16:15] <MichiBot>
PicoBTM 16.3
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L274[15:16:25] <Vexatos> I was about to
say do we have a picobtm video
L276[15:16:42] <asie> however, we always
ran on tier 3 everything
L277[15:16:50] <asie> and Nadeshicodec
even requires an unmanaged HDD
L278[15:16:54] <asie> so you do win the
low-budget game
L279[15:16:59]
<zeta0134>
So one thing I noticed right away is that the component budget for
`gpu.set` does not appear to be 16 as documented; it's clearly much
higher than this. I'm clearly misunderstanding how that works
L280[15:17:06] <asie> yeah so uh
L281[15:17:09] <asie> i've spent way too
much time on this
L282[15:17:14]
<zeta0134>
What are the actual limits?
L283[15:17:15] <asie> a GPU's budget is X,
for some given X
L284[15:17:18] <asie> tier 3 is 256
L285[15:17:22] <asie> so you can make 256
"operations" a tick
L286[15:17:25] <asie> a set eats 1
operation
L287[15:17:29] <asie> a palette color
change eats 2 operations
L288[15:17:32] <asie> and so on and so
forth
L289[15:17:39] <asie> until you use up
your budget, the operations are free
L290[15:17:42]
<zeta0134>
... whoa! that's waaaay more generous than I thought
L291[15:17:45] <asie> once the budget is
used up, the next operation will delay for 1 tick
L292[15:17:50] <asie> yes the
documentation is wrong
L293[15:18:01]
<Forecaster>
%sip
L294[15:18:01] <MichiBot> You drink a
runny titanium potion (New!). Once empty the potion bottle fills
with a different potion.
L295[15:18:07]
<Forecaster>
%sip
L296[15:18:09] <MichiBot> You drink a
viscous bavarium potion (New!). There's an acidic tinge to the
potion... A label on the bottle reads "Who needs internal
organs anyway?"
L297[15:18:17]
<Forecaster>
ohno
L298[15:18:35]
<zeta0134>
Damn. Well, I was going to switch this thing to braille today
anyway (that screenshot is using quadrants; when I started I hadn't
found the 2x4 patterns for braille, and assumed 2x3 would leave
ugly gaps)
L299[15:18:53]
<zeta0134>
Might as well find the real resolution limit while I'm at it
L300[15:18:56] <asie> nah 2x3 is just
off-ratio
L301[15:18:59] <asie> the real resoluton
limit is uh
L302[15:19:02] <asie> if the docs say
80x25
L303[15:19:18] <asie> that means "up
80 in either direction, but the amount of chars must be equal to
80*25"
L304[15:19:24] <asie> so 80x25 is allowed
but so is 25x80
L305[15:19:33] <asie> or 50x40, i
think
L306[15:19:52]
<AlchemicRaker> wow
L307[15:19:57]
<AlchemicRaker> that's... very
undocumented
L308[15:20:02]
<zeta0134>
For characters that's right; braille characters work really well
for the black and white variant though, because they allow each
pixel to be 2x4 thanks to unicode shenanigans
L309[15:20:05] <asie> yes
L310[15:20:18]
<zeta0134>
So 80x25 becomes 160x100
L311[15:20:19] <asie> i'm well aware
L312[15:20:23] <asie> i worked on that
charset
L314[15:20:28]
<zeta0134>
At that point the size of my hard drives becomes a real problem
though XD
L315[15:20:31] <asie> that's the source
code
L316[15:20:35] <asie> also get into
compression!
L317[15:20:36]
<zeta0134>
Nice, very nice!
L319[15:20:47] <MichiBot>
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L320[15:20:51] <asie> my greatest
opencomputers memepost
L321[15:20:52] <Vexatos> asie literally
developing charset
L322[15:20:54] <asie> never to be
beaten
L323[15:20:57] <asie> Vexatos: pff
L324[15:21:08]
<AlchemicRaker> Hey, it's ZZT!
L325[15:21:08] <Vexatos> you react like
you haven't heard that one before
L326[15:21:11] <asie> Yes, it's ZZT!
L327[15:21:16] <asie> I'm involved in
/that/ community as well.
L328[15:21:24] <asie> I develop Zeta, the
new and fresh way to run ZZT on Windows/Linux/the browser
L329[15:21:29] <Vexatos> the fewer pixels
it has, the more likely it is to see asie
L330[15:21:43] <asie> that doesn't have
DOSBox's drawbacks (for this specific usecase, DOSBox is fantastic,
but ZZT is not very well coded)
L331[15:22:11] <Vexatos> asie, ice2 was
the livestream one right=
L332[15:22:12]
<zeta0134>
Hrm. Well poop, this makes the LuaGB port I had in mind muuuuch
more plausible
L333[15:22:15] <asie> Vexatos: yes
L334[15:22:22] <asie> @zeta0134 LuaGB
porting won't work directly
L335[15:22:27] <Vexatos> anything is
possible
L336[15:22:35] <asie> Lunatic was
custom-written to ignore all possible timing
L337[15:22:43]
<zeta0134>
Well yeah, but I wrote LuaGB, so I can mod the emulator easily
enough
L338[15:22:48] <asie> yeah
L339[15:23:00]
<zeta0134>
Notably, it has a really obnoxious and unnecessary GPU cache
system
L340[15:23:01] <asie> anyhow... due to the
way OpenComputers 1.x.x is coded, Lua has a big performance
penalty
L341[15:23:08] <asie> it's not VERY
big
L342[15:23:10] <asie> but it's
noticeable
L343[15:23:16]
<zeta0134>
Which I wrote when I was trying to improve performance using a
profiler, not understanding that LuaJIT's cache was the real
problem
L344[15:23:20]
<zeta0134>
And the cache probably slows things down
L345[15:23:22] <Vexatos> @zeta0134 also
pro tip for PoCs and stuff like this: Computronics has an item
called magical memory which essentially removes RAM restriction in
a computer
L346[15:23:24] <asie> I think the numbers
stack as such... native Lua on PC is 100%
L347[15:23:32] <asie> best-case
OpenComputers Lua (OC-staging) is 80%
L348[15:23:35] <asie> current upstream OC
is 60%
L349[15:23:39] <asie> and OC before i
started writing Lunatic was 40%
L350[15:23:42] <asie> (performance)
L351[15:24:09]
<zeta0134>
... is it possible to stream audio to a tape drive somehow?
L352[15:24:12] <asie> Yes.
L353[15:24:13] <Vexatos> yes
L354[15:24:18] <Vexatos> a tape drive can
be written to while it plays
L355[15:24:25] <asie> Exactly.
L356[15:24:27] <asie> Write, rewind.
L357[15:24:31] <asie> Or write
ahead.
L358[15:24:41] *
Inari writes to Vexatos while he plays
L359[15:24:42] <asie> It has minor audio
glitches, and I've been meaning to solve it properly in the future,
but for now...
L360[15:24:49] <Vexatos> [or write to a
second tape and swap them out in a single tick with perfect timing
hahaha]
L361[15:25:24]
<zeta0134>
Neat. Hrm... I should ignore graphics and see if I can just get
LuaGB's audio emulation streaming out to tape
L362[15:25:37] <asie> That'd be quite
cool.
L363[15:25:52]
<zeta0134>
Project, set. :D
L364[15:25:53]
<AdorableCatgirl> csgo makes me sad
L365[15:25:53] <asie> What you need is
hook up a DFPWM encoder. That will convert your PCM data to DFPWM
data, which is the format tapes use.
L367[15:26:15] <asie> so port that to Lua
and you can generate audio on the fly.
L368[15:26:16]
<AdorableCatgirl> anyways
L369[15:26:17] <Vexatos> in 1.8+
L370[15:26:20] <asie> Yes, in 1.8+
L371[15:26:28] <Vexatos> minecraft 1.7
still uses DFPWM 1
L372[15:26:30] <asie> In 1.7.10, it uses
DFPWM1 - so just go up a directory.
L373[15:26:50]
<AdorableCatgirl> i mean i ported a crypto
lib to Lua once :^)
L374[15:26:57] <asie> DFPWM is pretty
simple to port
L375[15:27:03] <asie> which was a big
reason for me choosing it
L376[15:27:06]
<Forecaster>
but guys, did you hear 1.7.10 still uses DFPWM1
L377[15:27:06]
<Paradoxical> @AdorableCatgirl I noticed an
error in Zorya's OEFI module, so I made a pull request and fixed it
to make it work
L379[15:27:11] <Vexatos> I mean I wrote a
shitty package manager in Lua once
L380[15:27:37]
<AdorableCatgirl> yeah i never fixed that
because i've been working on Zorya-NEO but i'll merge
@Paradoxical
L381[15:27:40]
<Paradoxical> ah
L382[15:27:43]
<Paradoxical> alright thanks
L383[15:27:58] <Vexatos> @Forecaster I
didn't but I did know that 1.7.10 still uses DFPWM 1
L384[15:28:50] <Lizzy> %tonk
L385[15:28:50] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Lizzy,
you were not able to beat CompanionCube's record of 2 hours, 14
minutes and 46 seconds this time. 1 hour, 50 minutes and 8 seconds
were wasted! Missed by 24 minutes and 38 seconds!
L386[15:28:55] <Lizzy> oh well
L387[15:29:08]
<Forecaster>
what a missed DFPWM1-tunity
L388[15:29:49] <Inari> %inv add
DFPWM1
L389[15:29:50] *
MichiBot summons 'DFPWM1' and adds to her inventory. This seems
very sturdy.
L390[15:30:34] <asie> %inv add
DFPWM1a
L391[15:30:41] <asie> ah, cooldown
L392[15:30:42]
<zeta0134> I
guess I could theoretically just watch the audio register writes
and pipe those out to a sound card... but that's no fun. Also I
don't think the capabilities line up exactly; it would be
glitchy.
L393[15:31:02] <asie> Don't worry about
it
L394[15:31:07] <asie> You can't do worse
than AtGames
L395[15:31:09]
<zeta0134>
Pokémon does magical garbage where it updates the registers
mid-note for all its cries
L396[15:31:47]
<AdorableCatgirl> >teammate mutes me
because he doesn't like the way i talk
L397[15:32:28] <Vexatos> I mean
Computronics has a sound card :3
L398[15:32:38] <Vexatos> it can't do PCM
though
L399[15:32:42] <Vexatos> PWM*
L400[15:32:44] <Vexatos> thanks
L401[15:32:45] <Vexatos> brain
L402[15:35:41]
<zeta0134>
The capabilities look roughly anagolous to older consoles, but for
proper emulation I'd need things like volume and frequency sweeps,
and the ability to change the waveform type mid-note, and a number
of other weird things.
L403[15:35:48]
<zeta0134>
It'll be great fun to target with a tracker though
L404[15:36:08] <Vexatos> noone has yet
written a tracker for it
L405[15:36:26] <Vexatos> I do know of four
midi implementations though
L406[15:36:31]
<zeta0134> I
think since LuaGB is already generating PCM output, converting to
DFPWM1 on the fly is much more sensible
L407[15:36:56] <Vexatos> yea
L408[15:37:00] <Vexatos> it's also very
easy
L409[15:37:04]
<zeta0134>
Well, I say "on the fly"
L410[15:37:16]
<zeta0134>
We're assuming it can keep up; last time I tried this in any
capacity I was hitting like 1 FPS
L411[15:38:18]
<zeta0134>
But seeing the ZZT emulator and all this awesomeness gives me hope.
There must be a way to approach something resembling
playability.
L413[15:38:50]
<Bob> btw
how do i fix, using asie's staging fork latest ver
L414[15:39:23]
<Bob> where
cna i get them at least
L415[15:47:21] <asie> They should be in
the staging fork
L416[15:47:24] <asie> What's your
platform?
L417[15:47:53] <asie> Currently it should
handle 64-bit macOS, 32/64-bit Linux and 32/64-bit Windows
L418[15:53:34]
<Bob> asie
win x64
L419[15:53:48]
<Bob> can i
manually extract them or do something
L420[15:53:48] <asie> weird. should
work
L421[15:53:50]
<Bob> i'm
using MMC btw
L422[15:53:56] <asie> i haven't... looked
into it that much
L423[15:54:00] <asie> and until
mid-December i'm very busy
L424[15:54:11] <asie> maybe there's
something in the logs
L426[15:57:46]
<Bob>
nothing good
L427[16:05:59] <asie> anything
helpful?
L428[16:06:12] <asie> well then, might
want to jot it down in the feedback thread
L429[16:21:39]
<Bob> maybe
MMC not allowing libraries to be extracted
L430[16:22:06]
<AdorableCatgirl> nah
L431[16:22:08]
<AdorableCatgirl> werks on linux
L432[16:23:40]
<Bob> nope
worked with vanilla OC
L433[16:23:47]
<Bob> Asie
your fork doesn't want to extract its libs
L434[16:23:54]
<AdorableCatgirl> it only happens on
windows, too
L435[16:24:04]
<Bob> worked
with vanilla OC
L436[16:24:10]
<AdorableCatgirl> 'cause i can confirm the
same thing
L437[16:24:15]
<AdorableCatgirl> with 64-bit
wangblows
L438[16:41:41] ⇦
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L439[16:42:08]
<Bob>
@AdorableCatgirl do you have newest OC staging dlls or where i can
find them ?
L440[16:42:30]
<Bob>
vanilla OC works but i hella need VBO's for my OC screens
L441[16:46:37]
<AdorableCatgirl> no, not for windows
L442[16:46:42]
<AdorableCatgirl> like i said, mine didn't
extract either
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L445[16:57:39] <wocchat> hello
L446[16:57:52] <wocchat> i am chatting
from minecraft
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L448[17:03:40]
<Bob> Also
when i left the game and rejoined it , single player, my computers
in front of me shat down
L449[17:03:51]
<Bob> while
the robots continued working
L450[17:03:51]
<Bob>
mm
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L454[18:16:14]
<40BlocksUnder> Hello.
L455[18:16:48]
<40BlocksUnder> Not sure if the gradle code
for the project is outdated. Running into issues with loading into
IDEA with the project on GitHub.
L456[18:19:30]
<Jab>
Actually, it might be due to pulling the wrong branch.
L457[18:25:46]
<Jab>
Apparently my IDEA version doesn't like that the gradle version
used for this project is 2.3.
L459[18:29:58]
<Jab>
Currently working with the 1.12 branch. Don't see any documentation
for this and also tried looking this up with forge
specifically.
L460[18:30:12]
<Jab> I'm
under the assumption that the branch should already specify the
Minecraft version.
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L463[18:44:07] <AmandaC> ... the past
tense of shut is not shat
L464[18:45:36]
<Ariri> how
do i fix a ticking entity if the kill command cant be executed
before the chunk loads (i think its too close to spawn
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L466[18:47:12]
<Jab>
Scratching my head here. It looks like my problem is forge-related
with setting the version, however it looks like it should already
work.
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<Ariri>
Izaya: the server is down because of ticking entity issue at 200,
80, 200, a Pech keeps spawning and crashing the server even though
i went a backup back
L469[18:49:03]
<Ariri>
Anyway to stop pechs from spawning?
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L473[18:52:37]
<Jab> Hmmm..
I believe the error to be from IntelliJ IDEA asking me to update
the gradle version.
L475[19:07:08]
<AlchemicRaker> how can I automount a disk
to a specific path in OpenOS?
L476[19:07:18]
<AlchemicRaker> no docs for
filesystem.cfg
L477[19:10:15]
<Jab>
Reading in a little further into my problem, I believe that my
problem exists due to using a very recent JDK version, running it
with IDEA.
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L479[19:17:02]
<Jab> So it
looks to me like I'll have to compile and build outside of my IDE.
I don't know why, however I can run and build using gradlew.
L480[19:48:57]
<Jab> If
anyone has ideas as to how to import Open Computers fully into
IntelliJ IDEA, please let me know. =/
L481[19:50:09] <AmandaC> I feel like
payonel had a post / comment somewehre for how to do that
L482[19:50:35]
<Jab> will
brb but if you can find a url for it I'll take a look.
L483[19:50:38]
<Jab> Thanks
for replying.
L484[19:52:05] <AmandaC> ~ocdoc
intellij
L485[19:52:05] <ocdoc> Predicted 'Help I'm
trapped in a shoe factory!'
L487[19:54:09] <MichiBot>
Title:
runClient gradle Task doesn't want to work.
| Posted by:
Inari-Whitebear
| Posted: Sat Nov 04 05:14:10 CDT 2017
|
Status: closed
L488[19:54:54]
<DaComputerNerd> %tonk
L489[19:54:54] <MichiBot> Goshhawk!
DaComputerNerd! You beat CompanionCube's previous record of 2
hours, 14 minutes and 46 seconds (By 2 hours, 11 minutes and 17
seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L490[19:54:55] <MichiBot> DaComputerNerd's
new record is 4 hours, 26 minutes and 3 seconds! DaComputerNerd
also gained 0.00657 (0.00219 x 3) tonk points for stealing the
tonk.
L491[19:55:26]
<DaComputerNerd> %tonkout
L492[19:55:26] <MichiBot> I'm sorry
DaComputerNerd, you were not able to beat DaComputerNerd's record
of 4 hours, 26 minutes and 3 seconds this time. 32 seconds were
wasted! Missed by 4 hours, 25 minutes and 31 seconds!
L493[19:55:36]
<DaComputerNerd> oh they're the same,
ok
L494[20:21:15] <Izaya> Ariri: what's a
pech
L495[20:21:47] <AmandaC> Portable Electric
Chair Harness, duh
L496[20:22:10] <Izaya> neat
L497[20:22:29] <Izaya> is the harness for
moving the chair or keeping the person in place
L498[20:22:34]
<Jab>
AmandaC, I am looking at an issue with IntelliJ supporting gradle
2.3
L499[20:22:35] <AmandaC> Yes
L500[20:22:41] <Izaya> ... I see.
L501[20:23:02] <AmandaC> @Jab what version
of IntelliJ are you using? I last tried with 2019.1 or .2
L503[20:23:21]
<Jab> I have
the 2019.1.4
L505[20:23:35]
<Jab>
2019.2.4
L506[20:23:40] <AmandaC> @Jab hrm. What
exactly is it reporting?
L507[20:23:50]
<Jab> I'll
reset it to get the msg I have
L508[20:23:52]
<Jab> one
mi
L509[20:23:56]
<Jab> one
sec
L510[20:24:13] <AmandaC> %8ball continue
computering?
L511[20:24:14] <MichiBot> AmandaC: My
reply is no
L512[20:25:35]
<Jab>
Support for builds using Gradle versions older than 2.6 was removed
in tooling API version 5.0. You are currently using Gradle version
2.3. You should upgrade your Gradle build to use Gradle 2.6 or
later.
L513[20:25:36]
<Jab>
Possible solution:
L514[20:25:36]
<Jab> -
Upgrade Gradle wrapper to 2.6 version and re-import the
project
L516[20:28:00] <AmandaC> Hrm. Can you
downgrate intellij to 2019.1? Sounds like we need to bump the
gradle version
L517[20:28:10] <Izaya> >IPv6
L518[20:28:14] <Izaya> you're lying
L519[20:28:20]
<Jab> I can
go ahead and try that if that helps you.
L520[20:28:47]
<Jab> The
whole point of setting this up is to help.
L521[20:29:02] <AmandaC> It might be your
only option, until payonel comes out of his stationeers cave
again
L522[20:29:25] <Izaya> am I game to try to
run the DW20+extras pack on my X220?
L523[20:29:33] <Izaya> >8GB RAM
total
L524[20:29:47]
<Jab>
Amanda, 2019.1.4?
L525[20:30:45] *
AmandaC sacrafices some O2 and H2 in a ritual circle, summoning
payonel
L526[20:31:51] <AmandaC> @Jab might work?
Give it a try
L527[20:32:00]
<Jab> Sure
thing. Going to try now.
L528[20:32:29] <payonel> o/
L529[20:32:31] <payonel> i'm here nw
L530[20:32:33] <payonel> now*
L531[20:32:36] <AmandaC> hey payonel
L532[20:32:36] <Izaya> wow it worked
L533[20:32:47] <AmandaC> Izaya: the secret
ingredient is harassing him over Steam!
L534[20:32:55] <payonel> haha
L535[20:32:56] <Izaya> Oh, that'd do
it.
L536[20:33:04] <payonel> ok who's trying
to build/debug oc in intellij?
L537[20:33:12]
<Jab> That'd
be me.
L538[20:33:12] <Izaya> I feel like doing
that for my OpenOS problems would just result in a block.
L539[20:33:25]
<Jab> I'm
currently installing a older version of IntelliJ IDEA to see if it
will work
L540[20:33:42] <AmandaC> payonel: @Jab is.
Seems in 2019.2 they upped something that raised the minimal
version of gradle, so it might be nessary to bump the gradle
version soon
L541[20:33:42]
<Jab> I've
ran the repository from using only gradle so it works on its
own.
L542[20:33:47]
<Jab> It's
IDEA that is having the problem.
L543[20:34:22] <payonel> yeah, basically,
we can't do <1.12 anymore
L544[20:34:27] <payonel> the new
gradle+old forge is a no go
L545[20:34:48]
<Jab> I've
looked into that for reasons other than OC. It's a mess IIRC
L546[20:34:59] <payonel> yep, that's what
i found too
L547[20:35:10]
<Jab> It's
really sad.
L548[20:35:15] <payonel> vexatos told me
it isn't a problem :P
L549[20:35:23] <payonel> but he and i
disagree on everything, so, no suprise there
L550[20:35:28] <payonel> let me find what
he said exactly
L551[20:35:37] <Izaya> just stop building
for <1.12 :^)
L552[20:35:40]
<Jab> I used
to code using Risugami's Risucraft stuff prior to MCP
L553[20:35:56] <Izaya> is that the
modloader guy
L554[20:36:00]
<Jab>
Yup
L555[20:36:05] <Izaya> man, memories
L556[20:36:10]
<Jab>
Yeah
L557[20:36:10] <Izaya> Did you delete
META-INF?
L558[20:36:13]
<Jab> I
remember the good old days
L559[20:36:14] <AmandaC> Izaya: that's
theplan for 1.8+, drop <1.12 IIRC
L560[20:36:44] <payonel> Izaya: i wanted
to, vex wants to keep 1.7.10 a bit longer because there are some
packs still thanking us for it
L561[20:36:46]
<Jab> I
wrote a dimension mod before Aether existed. They invited me to
closed-test the mod before any releases.
L562[20:36:47]
<Jab>
:)
L563[20:37:13] <Izaya> My first IRC
experience was for Tropicraft once upon a time :3
L564[20:37:22]
<AdorableCatgirl> Izaya: CJDNS is all
IPv6
L565[20:37:26] <payonel> all i could find
from vex was this comment, "the 1.7.10 branch's gradle
integration works just fine in intelliJ for me"
L566[20:37:39] <payonel> which is not true
for me, and apparently not true for jab
L567[20:37:39] <AmandaC> Izaya: how old
are you again?
L568[20:37:51] <AmandaC> payonel: guessing
Vex is using an old intellij version
L569[20:37:53] <Izaya> legal drinking
age
L570[20:38:03]
<AdorableCatgirl> izaya is 11
L571[20:38:06]
<Jab> I'm
testing 2019.1 rn
L572[20:38:08] <payonel> AmandaC: earlier
in the convo, we talked about intellij version
L573[20:38:08]
<AdorableCatgirl> do not lewd
L574[20:38:10] <Izaya> AdorableCatgirl:
where
L575[20:38:18]
<AdorableCatgirl> Izaya: where what
L576[20:38:23] <Izaya> where am I 11
L577[20:38:26]
<AdorableCatgirl> yes
L578[20:38:34] <Izaya> where is the legal
drinking age 11
L579[20:38:39] <Izaya> probably
portugal
L580[20:38:53] <AmandaC> Izaya: My first
IRC experience was through Pidgin (then GAIM) in the mid'00s for
the Teen Grid in SL.
L581[20:38:58]
<AdorableCatgirl> anywhere as long as you
don't get caught
L582[20:39:08]
<Jab> I
wanted to make my own server framework, a replacement for Bukkit,
however with MCP in the air since 1.13, I haven't started it
yet.
L583[20:39:11]
<Jab>
:(
L584[20:39:19] <Izaya> AmandaC: we didn't
get internet till 2007, and it was dialup
L585[20:39:30] *
AmandaC mutters something about her lawn
L586[20:39:42] <Izaya> AdorableCatgirl: or
have the cash to make it legal
L587[20:39:52] <Izaya> remember, things
are only illegal if you can't afford the fine
L588[20:39:53] <payonel> @Jab if you find
a version of intellij that works, i'll take note. i can always run
a vm for just that
L589[20:40:03]
<Jab> I'm
testing rn. Will let you know.
L590[20:40:16] <Izaya> also send me the
link to the pack extras
L591[20:40:22]
<Jab> going
to run a clean test to make sure this works properly.
L592[20:40:26] <Izaya> am on laptop
because I hate myself or something
L593[20:40:29] <payonel> @Jab ultimately,
what are you trying to do?
L594[20:40:37] <AmandaC> payonel: I'm 99%
sure I used 2019.1 for my MR earlier, fwiw
L595[20:40:42]
<Jab> Use
IntelliJ IDEA to setup and mod OC
L596[20:41:06] <AmandaC> s/earlier/awhile
ago/
L597[20:41:06] <MichiBot> <AmandaC>
payonel: I'm 99% sure I used 2019.1 for my MR awhile ago,
fwiw
L598[20:41:06] <payonel> @Jab are you
being secretive? :)
L599[20:41:20] <payonel> MR?
L600[20:41:22]
<Jab> I have
a strong desire to add something that I think is desired for the
mod.
L601[20:41:47] <AmandaC> payonel: er, PR.
I'm used to gitlab terms, since most of my PR/MRs are through the
ddna gitlab. :P
L602[20:41:55] <AmandaC> ( And MR is
actually more correct for how git works. )
L603[20:42:28] <payonel> @Jab well....i've
been some bad names for not accepting some PRs in the past for
OC
L604[20:42:45] <payonel> so, it MIGHT be
worth sending me a private message if you want to test the waters
there
L605[20:42:49]
<Jab> Oh? So
you're the guy doing that
L606[20:42:53]
<Jab> Not
saying you're bad
L607[20:42:56]
<Jab> Just
good to know.
L608[20:43:08] <payonel> of course, if you
dont care if i accept it, and you're having fun, by all means, have
fun :)
L609[20:43:13]
<Jab> I have
no ill will and I don't know you from ADAM
L610[20:43:23] <payonel> i might have
confused you
L611[20:43:33]
<Jab> No
worries. I do want to try for a PR.
L612[20:43:39] <payonel> what i'm saying
is --- i dont accept PRs unless i also agree with the need for the
feature
L613[20:43:58] <payonel> and in the past,
i've denied some that people spent gobs of time on, and they
weren't pleased
L614[20:44:14]
<Jab> Ah.
I'm going to try to implement git with OCs. I'd like to make it
work using a install floppy disk.
L615[20:44:19] <payonel> AmandaC: gitlab,
ah
L616[20:44:33] <payonel> ah, so a new loot
disk for git?
L617[20:44:38]
<AdorableCatgirl> insert joke about
soni
L618[20:44:40] <AmandaC> @Jab so a new
loot disk? Or some kind of new APIs?
L619[20:44:46]
<Jab> I
wrote a script to download a GitHub repository and asked myself
about this.
L620[20:44:49] <payonel> a new loot disk
would be great
L621[20:44:53]
<AdorableCatgirl> when can we get a psychos
loot disk
L622[20:45:00] <Izaya> never
L623[20:45:02] <payonel> there is also
oppm
L624[20:45:03]
<AdorableCatgirl> kek
L625[20:45:08] <AmandaC> if just a new
loot disk intellij isn't strictly nessary
L626[20:45:14] <payonel> ^
L627[20:45:17] <Izaya> OC is already
psychotic enough
L628[20:45:18] <AmandaC> ( And in fact
won't help )
L629[20:45:21]
<Jab> Oh
yeah, and a JSON library would be nice, since I can interface with
the internet API.
L630[20:45:28]
<Jab> I have
one already that I found.
L631[20:45:36] <Izaya> there's pure Lua
JSON libraries, right?
L632[20:45:40]
<Jab>
Yeah
L633[20:45:43]
<Jab> Hold..
I'll link one
L634[20:45:54]
<AdorableCatgirl> i made a neat library for
binary serialization in lua 5.3
L635[20:46:00] *
Izaya isn't a big fan of JSON but understands why it is
useful
L636[20:46:15]
<AdorableCatgirl> izaya: are you prepared
for B L T
L637[20:46:26]
<Jab> GitHub
is timing out for me.. How convenient...
L638[20:46:26] <Izaya> I don't like
tomato
L640[20:46:27] <payonel> Izaya: json
sucks. they really missed an opportunity to just use lua tables
:)
L641[20:46:36] <Izaya> payonel: strongly
agree
L642[20:46:37]
<AdorableCatgirl> speaking of lua
tables
L643[20:46:47] <Izaya> additionally, web
browsers should run lua rather than javascript
L644[20:46:58]
<Jab> I
personally like TypeScript
L645[20:47:28] <payonel> @Jab i'm going to
be afk again. good luck with your endeavors
L646[20:47:40]
<Jab> Sounds
like you're okay with my idea?
L647[20:47:45] <Soni> who pinged
L648[20:48:10] <payonel> i'm....curious
what it would look like i suppose. it might be best as oppm project
to be honest
L649[20:48:29] <payonel> but i personally
dont love where oppm is in terms of usefulness and performance
these days
L650[20:48:38] <payonel> so, it's not
ideal, but makes more sense for projects like git
L651[20:48:44] <Soni> (and should I even
care)
L652[20:48:44] *
Izaya has been meaning to write an oppm-compatible package
manager
L653[20:48:47]
<Jab> Well
this project clearly has my full attention.
L654[20:48:51] <payonel> i'll let our
community people here explain oppm if you have questions
L655[20:49:14] <Izaya> I want something
that can download packages over FRequest
L656[20:49:20] <Soni> also, t={}t[t]=t is
the best lua table
L657[20:49:25] <payonel> @jab so in short
- right now it is not a "no", but be prepared for my
answer to be "put it in oppm"
L658[20:49:44]
<Jab> Code
is code, and nothing is final. =)
L659[20:49:55] <AmandaC> Izaya: I forget,
does FRequest support POST/PUT-type things?
L660[20:49:56] <payonel> also...we have
some loot disk bloat, plan9k was legendary in its prime, but should
be removed in a 1.8 version bump
L661[20:50:14] <Izaya> Soni: t={}
setmetatable(t,{_index=t})
L662[20:50:20]
<AdorableCatgirl> Tsuki is gonna be n e a
t
L663[20:50:28] <Izaya> AmandaC: not
presently
L664[20:50:33]
<AdorableCatgirl> setmetatable(G,
{index=G})
L665[20:50:33] <Soni> Izaya: that just
blows the stack
L666[20:50:36] <Izaya> but I am open to
extensions to the protocol
L667[20:50:36]
<AdorableCatgirl> that's my favorite
L668[20:50:42] <Izaya> Soni: :3
L669[20:50:45]
<Ocawesome101> Nice
L670[20:50:55]
<AdorableCatgirl> anyways
L671[20:51:03]
<AdorableCatgirl> anyone else have a CJDNS
node?
L672[20:51:10] <Soni> Izaya: that's not
fun. hardlinks are fun.
L673[20:51:12] *
Izaya pokes CompanionCube
L674[20:51:17] <Izaya> Soni: did you
know
L675[20:51:20] <Izaya> in early unix
L676[20:51:28] <Izaya> it did not prevent
hard linking directories
L677[20:51:29] <CompanionCube> Izaya:
ja?
L678[20:51:31]
<AdorableCatgirl> hardlink
directories
L679[20:51:34]
<AdorableCatgirl> OH NO
L680[20:51:41] <AmandaC> hardlinks? Psh,
firmlinks are bae.
L681[20:51:42] *
AmandaC flees
L682[20:51:42] <Izaya> you had a CJDNS
node ri- oh wait no
L683[20:51:44]
<AdorableCatgirl> I WAS ONLY JOKING
L684[20:51:46] <Izaya> that was
Saphire
L685[20:52:04] <Izaya> they abolished
linking directories because it made the filesystem too
chaotic
L686[20:52:18] <Izaya> and introduced
symlinking
L687[20:52:25]
<AdorableCatgirl> Izaya: foxfs but with
directory hardlinks
L688[20:52:33]
<AdorableCatgirl> coming soon to a dumpster
fire near you
L689[20:52:42] <Soni> because they didn't
wanna implement a GC or cycle-avoiding FS traversal
L690[20:52:47] <Izaya> I can bind mount
arbitrarily in PsychOS :^)
L691[20:52:51] <AmandaC> ( firmlinks are
basically hardlinked directories, cross-FS, and just more proof
that Apple is moving further from the Goddesses' light )
L692[20:53:05]
<AdorableCatgirl> ProximaFS only has
symlinks
L693[20:53:08]
<AdorableCatgirl> and it's staying that
way
L694[20:53:37] <Soni> and the result of
that is that git still doesn't support hardlink-based programming
languages
L695[20:53:38] <Izaya> todo: bcache but
OC; providing a "drive" component backed by an in-memory
cache and a bunch of tapes
L696[20:53:58] <CompanionCube> Izaya: and
then plan9 goes and abolishes symlinks too
L697[20:54:16] <Izaya> CompanionCube: what
do you need symlinks for when you have per-process namespaces
tbh
L698[20:54:21] <CompanionCube>
exactly
L699[20:54:27] <Izaya> actually I can
think of some things but it was a design decision
L700[20:54:30] <Soni> I really want
hardlink-based programming languages to catch on :<
L701[20:54:43] <Izaya> CompanionCube: I'm
thinking of implementing per-process filesystem namespaces in
PsychOS
L702[20:54:46] <Izaya> is that too
cursed
L703[20:54:48] <AmandaC> @AdorableCatgirl
see what you unleashed upon the world?
L704[20:54:52] <CompanionCube> no
L705[20:55:03]
<AdorableCatgirl> no
L706[20:55:09]
<AdorableCatgirl> what did i do this
time
L707[20:55:19]
<AdorableCatgirl> i know i break things
without realizing but jeez
L709[20:55:33] <CompanionCube> inb4 you
end up being 'what if plan9k was an accurate name for an OS'
L710[20:55:41] <AmandaC> @AdorableCatgirl
you pinged the s o n i now she's going on about some kind of
filesystem programming language
L711[20:55:41]
<Jab> This
is the JSON library I use
L713[20:55:46]
<Jab> This
works inside of OpenOS
L714[20:55:50]
<AdorableCatgirl> btw
L715[20:55:56] <Izaya> CompanionCube: nah
I have some amiga-haiku-plan9 ~hybrid~ chimera
L716[20:56:09] <payonel> Izaya: so many
questions
L717[20:56:12]
<AdorableCatgirl> i run an imageboard on
hyperboria
L718[20:56:23] <CompanionCube> what can
you even take from haiky or amiga in an OC context though
L719[20:56:54] <CompanionCube> you can't
have good graphics stuff of amiga or haiku's good
filesystem/multithreading support
L720[20:57:16] <payonel> Izaya: 1. plan9
doesnt have symlinks? 2. what is a fs namespace?
L721[20:57:27]
<AdorableCatgirl> and i only enforce the
rules of "keep shit to appropriate boards" and
"nothing illegal"
L722[20:57:34] <Izaya> CompanionCube:
packagefs and the filesystem layout from haiku, plus the
single-user-multi-tasking concept, the object passing from amigas,
and various concepts from plan9
L723[20:57:40] <Izaya> payonel: FS
namespaces are uh
L724[20:57:42] <Izaya> well
L725[20:57:45] <AmandaC> payonel: I
suspect "Fs namespace" as in the linux kernel
namespaces?
L726[20:57:50] <CompanionCube> they're
what they say on the time
L727[20:57:50] <Izaya> you can have a
different set of mount points for each process
L728[20:57:55] <CompanionCube> multiple
views of the 'filesystem'
L729[20:58:17] <Izaya> I can find a paper
on it if you'd like
L730[20:58:22] <payonel> why would you
care do have mount points be in the context of a process?
L731[20:58:59] <Soni> payonel: each
process can define its own way of seeing the filesystem
L732[20:58:59] <Izaya> a) containerisation
is ez
L733[20:59:12] <Izaya> b) you can have a
process with /proc being another machine's /proc
L735[20:59:17] <AmandaC> payonel: so you
can have dumb terminals everywhere and the processing, and data
storage, aren't tied to the dumb terminals at all. That was a large
part of the plan9 vision, AIUI. Then dumb terminals stopped being
The New Hotness™
L736[20:59:27] <Izaya> it's part of the
distributed design
L737[20:59:28] <Soni> payonel: /a/b/c
could be /d/e/f or /x/y/z/w
L738[20:59:54]
<DaComputerNerd> ~~then there's my basic
filesystem I made for that software raid which doesn't even have
directories~~
L739[21:00:05] <payonel> yes, i understand
what Izaya said with mounts points
L740[21:00:19] <payonel> i see no point --
this only comes up when we need to chroot
L741[21:00:20]
<AdorableCatgirl> tbh i should make a
driver in Tsuki for per process VFS for the ememe
L742[21:00:20] <CompanionCube> AmandaC:
given the-cloud(tm), to a lesser extent thin clients are currently
'in' too
L743[21:00:34] <Izaya> payonel:
wrong
L744[21:00:40] <Izaya> lemme find the
paper so it can explain it and I can not mince words
L745[21:00:41]
<AdorableCatgirl> man
L746[21:00:46]
<AdorableCatgirl> my imageboard is p
fast
L747[21:01:02] <AmandaC> CompanionCube:
fair point. But that wasn't until the mid'00s that they caught back
on.
L748[21:01:08] <AmandaC> plan9 was truely
dead by then
L749[21:01:19] <AmandaC> Well,
"dead"
L750[21:01:25] <CompanionCube> true
L751[21:01:30] <CompanionCube> the modern
day dumb terminal is a chromebook.
L752[21:01:36] <Soni> payonel: imagine
sshfs everywhere
L753[21:01:47] <Soni> every dir is an
sshfs mount
L754[21:01:54] <Soni> and you just mount
mounts on mounts on mounts
L756[21:01:58] <Soni> that's the beauty of
it
L757[21:02:17] <payonel> Soni: i dont see
how that's different than what we already do
L758[21:02:34] <Soni> payonel: but
per-process
L759[21:02:42] <payonel> and for that, i
see no point
L760[21:02:50] <payonel> except, for
chroot
L761[21:02:51]
<aetaric>
That's not "beauty" that's an abomination of filesystems.
also sshfs is fuse... I'd prefer my filesystems in the context of a
kernel thanks ?
L762[21:02:57] <Soni> so you could run a
process that emulates a linux filesystem, or one that emulates a
windows filesystem, and so on
L763[21:03:09] <payonel> @aetaric i think
soni was trying to make a hypothetical
L764[21:03:09] <AmandaC> Soni: payonel
understands what it is, but doesn't see the point in it
L765[21:03:18] <Soni> and it just works
and everything is located where the process would expect it to
be
L766[21:03:41] <Soni> it's like an
universally accepted API compatible with everything
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L768[21:03:57]
<Jab> about
to test IDEA 2019.1.4
L769[21:04:04]
<Jab> Was
busy uploading OC code I had.
L770[21:04:19] <Soni> for example,
currently wine has its own home and whatnot
L771[21:04:52] <Soni> with plan9 it could
share it with the host, but have its own config dir separate from
the host
L772[21:04:58] <Soni> and stuff like
that
L773[21:05:02] <Soni> which would be
amazing
L774[21:05:13] <Soni> but, sadly, we can't
have nice things
L775[21:05:19] <Izaya> payonel: you can
mount the dir for the display as whatever, but a window can emulate
the display, and mount it in the same place for subprocesses
L776[21:05:25]
<Jab> brb
coding explorer.lua
L777[21:05:32] <Izaya> so you can run the
window system in a window with no messing around
L778[21:06:11] <Soni> then again genode
might be more interesting
L779[21:06:20]
<Jab> sux
that you can't do pixel drawing on OC
L780[21:06:25] <Soni> idk how genode
compares tbh
L781[21:06:34] <AmandaC> Anyway, I just
accidentlly kicked myself in the cooch, so I think I'mma lay down
and sleep soon. night nerds.
L782[21:06:49] <Izaya> genode is
interesting
L784[21:06:50] <payonel> AmandaC:
o_O
L786[21:07:14] <Izaya> CompanionCube: the
issue with SSI concepts is that I can't serialise functions
L787[21:07:20] <Izaya> wait
L788[21:07:28] <payonel> Izaya: "dir
for the display" ?
L789[21:07:29] <Izaya> is this like IBM i
or am I thinking of a different term
L790[21:07:37] <Izaya> didn't read the
article yet lmao
L791[21:07:40] <Izaya> payonel: yeah the
like
L792[21:07:45] <Izaya> /dev/display
L793[21:07:57] <CompanionCube> Izaya:
single-system-image is more about clustering stuffs
L794[21:08:04] <Izaya> oh
L795[21:08:07] <CompanionCube> IBM i is a
single-level store, which is completely different
L796[21:08:20] <Izaya> sorry, was thinking
of that
L797[21:08:24] <payonel> Izaya: and what's
wrong with just having a system wide /dev/display? that all procs
see?
L798[21:08:30] <Izaya> well, I wrote
exportfs for PsychOS the other day
L799[21:08:38] <Izaya> payonel: what if
you want to redirect it
L800[21:08:45] <Soni> I think you can fake
devices on linux too
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L802[21:09:00] <Izaya> for example, to run
something in a window rather than on the whole display
L803[21:09:19] <Izaya> 2GB is not enough
for DW20 I don't think
L804[21:09:33] <payonel> 2gb for dw20?
definitely not enough
L805[21:09:35] <payonel> more like 8
L806[21:09:40] <payonel> maybe 6
L807[21:09:43] <Izaya> runs in 4 on my
desktop happily
L808[21:09:47] <CompanionCube> Izaya: e.g
out of 7 characteristics, plan9 is capable of four.
L809[21:09:47] <Izaya> but 4 means 8 with
minecraft
L810[21:09:55] <payonel> Izaya: yeah that
example makes sense, i can see that
L811[21:10:00]
<Jab>
@payonel Yes. 2019.1.4 has gone past the point that I was at with
the more recent versions of IDEA
L812[21:10:16] <payonel> meaning, 2019.1.4
is still too new?
L813[21:10:21] <Izaya> payonel: it
provides that abstraction in a, depending on perspective, very
elegant, or horrific method.
L814[21:10:22]
<Jab> I was
using 2019.2
L815[21:10:28]
<Jab> It had
issues with gradle2.3
L816[21:10:39] <Izaya> CompanionCube: well
I can share filesystems, with some abuse I could share process
lists and events
L817[21:10:45] <Izaya> I've been meaning
to experiment with clustering :3
L818[21:10:57] <payonel> Izaya: well,
perhaps we should be doing more fdupes over to /proc/self/
L819[21:11:00] <payonel> including,
display
L820[21:11:01]
<Jab> Going
to try running the client through IDEA
L821[21:11:34] <CompanionCube> (for other
peoples: 'single-level store' is basically abolishing the visible
distinction between 'disk' and 'memory')
L822[21:11:36]
<Jab> I am
getting build errors, however gradle imported.
L823[21:11:55] <Izaya> let's try with
3GB
L824[21:12:08] <payonel> @jab i understand
that gradle blah.blah wasn't working, i was trying to parse your
comment: "2019.1.4 has gone past the point that I was at with
the more recent versions of IDEA"
L825[21:12:15]
<Jab> Going
to only use gradle's panel for tasks to see if it works.
L826[21:12:16] <payonel> does that mean
2019.1.4 can run or cannot run the old gradle
L827[21:12:17] <CompanionCube> which would
seem hard to do in OC for multiple reasons
L828[21:12:31]
<Jab>
Oh...
L829[21:12:37] <AmandaC> @jab the build
errors will go away after following the post I linked
earlier)
L830[21:12:47]
<Jab> I mean
that it didn't stop me to say it needed to upgrade gradle when I
launched the idea project after gradlew idea
L831[21:12:57]
<Jab>
Amanda, ah okay.
L832[21:12:58] <payonel> i see
L833[21:13:04] <payonel> then it'll
probably work
L834[21:13:09] <payonel> @Jab you're doing
1.7.10, right?L
L835[21:13:36]
<Jab> I'm
doing 1.12.2
L836[21:13:40] <payonel> ....
L837[21:13:43] <payonel> wat
L838[21:13:45] <payonel> dude
L839[21:13:59] <payonel> i already updated
gradle and you just need to pull latest in 1.12
L840[21:14:00]
<Jab> I'm
not modding 1.7
L841[21:14:08]
<Jab>
?
L842[21:14:12]
<Jab> Okay
I'm confused.
L843[21:14:17] <payonel> me too :)
L844[21:14:18]
<Jab> I
tried both and both didn't work btw.
L845[21:14:26] <payonel> you should be
able to use recent intellij, plus latest 1.12 code
L846[21:14:38] <payonel> the PROBLEM is
for 1.7.10
L847[21:14:44]
<Jab> It was
a problem for 1.12.2
L848[21:14:50] <payonel> until i updated
gradle
L849[21:15:33] <payonel> i have company
coming over, i have to go afk
L850[21:15:44]
<Jab>
GitHub's webservers are slow tonight...
L851[21:16:29] <Izaya> >allocate
3GB
L852[21:16:36] <Izaya> >minecraft is
using 6GB before finishing loading
L853[21:17:32]
<Jab> Well I
have no issue running gradle commands on the right on IDEA. The
code isn't full of red errors so that's good.
L854[21:17:41]
<Jab> So I
can now work on OC =)
L855[21:18:14]
<Jab>
IntelliJ IDEA 2019.1.4 works with the gradle 2.3 setup you have.
IntelliJ IDEA 2019.2.4 does not.
L856[21:18:32]
<Jab> It
basically bumps gradle up from 2.3 to 2.6, then to
4.something
L857[21:19:26]
<Jab> I hope
that helps.
L859[21:31:01] <Izaya> cursed
L860[21:31:28]
<AdorableCatgirl> fun fact
L861[21:31:44]
<AdorableCatgirl> there was a time when
everything had the glow filter
L862[21:43:59]
<Ariri> If
anyone wants to join the DW20 (+additional mods) server then @ or
PM me!
L863[21:45:14] <Izaya> your use of PM
rather than the misleading DM is appreciated
L864[21:45:50]
<Ariri>
:)
L865[21:46:03]
<Jab>
GitHub's webservices are going tits up
L866[21:46:05]
<Jab>
:D
L867[21:46:17] <Izaya> wonder what
happened today
L868[21:46:28]
<Jab> Going
to look at oppm
L869[21:47:18]
<AdorableCatgirl> Izaya: i angered the
gods
L870[21:47:28] <Izaya> oh?
L871[22:05:44]
<Jab> Going
to try working on my stuff tomorrow.
L872[22:05:57]
<Jab> Got my
dev environment setup though.
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