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L7[01:09:36] <Forecaster> %tonkout
L8[01:09:36] <MichiBot> Dogast! Forecaster! You beat CompanionCube's previous record of 9 hours, 49 minutes and 58 seconds (By 39 minutes and 37 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L9[01:09:37] <MichiBot> Forecaster has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.01 tonk points! plus 0.009 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 1.36897
L10[01:57:11] <MichiBot> Lizzy REMINDER: maybe re-install computer?
L11[01:58:05] <Ariri> %8ball sleep now?
L12[01:58:06] <MichiBot> Ariri: [ The Bowling ball doesn't answer ]
L13[01:58:25] <MichiBot> Ariri: "sleep now" is for cool kids!
L14[01:58:24] <Ariri> %choose sleep now or later
L15[01:58:38] <Ariri> ok then, gn
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L17[02:52:30] <bauen1> %tonk
L18[02:52:30] <MichiBot> Jiminy Cricket! bauen1! You beat Forecaster's previous record of <0 (By 1 hour, 42 minutes and 53 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L19[02:52:31] <MichiBot> bauen1's new record is 1 hour, 42 minutes and 53 seconds! bauen1 also gained 0.00171 tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L20[03:03:06] <Inari> AmandaC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zn24P-5sCgU
L21[03:03:07] <MichiBot> しろと栗拾い Picking up cats and chestnuts 191018 | length: 4m 16s | Likes: 6,270 Dislikes: 78 Views: 271,608 | by かご猫 Blog | Published On 18/10/2019
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L30[05:18:46] <Myros> %tonkout
L31[05:18:46] <MichiBot> Gadsbudlikins! Myros! You beat bauen1's previous record of 1 hour, 42 minutes and 53 seconds (By 43 minutes and 22 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L32[05:18:47] <MichiBot> Myros has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.002 tonk points! plus 0.001 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 0.0035
L33[05:39:10] <Myros> %tonk
L34[05:39:10] <MichiBot> Jeepers! Myros! You beat your own previous record of <0 (By 20 minutes and 23 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L35[05:39:11] <MichiBot> Myros's new record is 20 minutes and 23 seconds! No points gained for stealing from yourself. (Lost out on 0.00034)
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L38[06:30:58] <Myros> %tonk
L39[06:30:59] <MichiBot> Bejabbers! Myros! You beat your own previous record of 20 minutes and 23 seconds (By 31 minutes and 24 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L40[06:31:00] <MichiBot> Myros's new record is 51 minutes and 48 seconds! No points gained for stealing from yourself. (Lost out on 0.00052)
L41[06:31:13] <Myros> how can a robot check its own energie?
L42[06:31:28] <Bob> computer.getEnergy
L43[06:31:30] <Bob> or whatever that was
L44[06:31:36] <Bob> the robot should also have that call
L45[06:31:50] <Myros> i was given component.robot.energy() but thats nonexistent
L46[06:33:23] <Myros> ah found it
L47[06:33:26] <Myros> computer.energy()
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L49[06:40:10] <Lizzy> hmm
L50[06:40:44] <Lizzy> I just realised that I can just make another subvolume on my PC's main drive and install manjaro into that
L51[06:41:00] <Lizzy> though trying to sort out kernel files in /boot might be a bit tricky
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L53[06:42:59] <Lizzy> hmm, okay it might be okay cause of the way that manjaro names it's kernels
L54[06:46:19] <Lizzy> i might need to make some space though... onlt 39gb free
L55[06:55:54] <Inari> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/309529094452936705/645471162159202334/dog-motto-live-by-less-depresso-more-espresso.png?width=677&height=702
L56[07:01:12] <Inari> AmandaC: https://www.reddit.com/r/aww/comments/dx93jq/the_way_these_cats_react/
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L59[07:18:56] <Izaya> Lizzy: multiple OSes on subvolumes is <3
L60[07:21:49] <Lizzy> indeed
L61[07:21:59] <Ocawesome101> %tonk
L62[07:21:59] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Ocawesome101, you were not able to beat Myros's record of 51 minutes and 48 seconds this time. 51 minutes were wasted! Missed by 48 seconds!
L63[07:22:20] <Lizzy> also having /home on it's own subvolume helps cause i can just mount that in either one
L64[07:22:27] <Ocawesome101> Ah, dang it
L65[07:22:30] <Ocawesome101> Oh well
L66[07:23:32] <Lizzy> also just bought a cpu upgrade for my home server
L67[07:23:41] <ben_mkiv> Tier 3?
L68[07:23:52] <Lizzy> no, irl server
L69[07:24:04] <ben_mkiv> ofc, that was supposed to be funny ;_;
L70[07:24:14] <Lizzy> went from an AMD A6-6400K to an AMD A10-6800K
L71[07:24:16] <Lizzy> :P
L72[07:25:52] <asie> i'll make a new oc-staging build today
L73[07:26:11] <Izaya> exciting
L74[07:26:24] <asie> it's just going to match 1.7.5 exactly
L75[07:26:31] <asie> what i need is a full reproduction case for the deserialization bug
L76[07:26:36] <asie> this includes the full world save which crashes
L77[07:26:52] <asie> as well as comments on performance for https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/pull/3138
L78[07:26:56] <Lizzy> oops, the license key for the forums expired...
L79[07:27:32] <Lizzy> oh good i can still get it for the renewal price
L80[07:27:41] <Inari> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton-enhanced_nuclear_induction_spectroscopy ;D
L81[07:27:49] <Vexatos> thanks for reminding me the forum exists
L82[07:28:07] <Vexatos> Lizzy, I guess you'll do the forum post then?
L83[07:28:31] <Lizzy> i mean, if you wanna do it by all means go ahead. but i can do it if you don't want to
L84[07:28:37] <Vexatos> I don't want to D:
L85[07:28:48] <Vexatos> you're the forum person I regularly forget it exists
L86[07:28:56] <Lizzy> llol
L87[07:29:20] <Lizzy> forums have an update, so i'ma apply that first
L88[07:29:39] <Vexatos> Inari, I've heard of CP spectroscopy in 3D NMR
L89[07:30:18] <Vexatos> asie, is there OC staging thread on the forums? Maybe you'll find interested people if you post there
L90[07:30:45] <asie> no, but i could, if payonel doesn't mind
L91[07:31:57] <Vexatos> OC is MIT licensed you can do whatever the heck you want, as long as it doesn't end up in a major mod pack like a certain other large mod's unfinished alpha release :^)
L92[07:32:13] <asie> but i've been asked to not,say, put OC-staging on CurseForge
L93[07:32:21] <Lizzy> ARGH fucking security questions
L94[07:32:28] <asie> i'm legally allowed to do it but i've been asked not to
L95[07:32:28] <Vexatos> yes because curseforge is full of idiots
L96[07:32:44] <Vexatos> the forums has people that at least bother reading
L97[07:32:54] <Vexatos> so yea if payo is fine
L98[07:32:58] <asie> like
L99[07:32:59] <Vexatos> with it
L100[07:33:06] <asie> i'd really love to get Lua 5.4 and the recompiled JNLua and the many other things into OC
L101[07:33:13] <Vexatos> yes
L102[07:33:15] <Vexatos> me too
L103[07:33:16] <asie> and the video rendering optimization
L104[07:33:18] <asie> but payo will probably never OK it at this rate
L105[07:33:28] <Vexatos> well he's just started getting back into OC
L106[07:33:42] <Vexatos> like a week ago
L107[07:33:46] <asie> ah
L108[07:33:53] <Vexatos> check the commit history
L109[07:33:59] <asie> well as soon as my bachelor's thesis is over (December) i'm more than willing to help mainline my patches
L110[07:34:13] <asie> i also want to take a long new look at funscii
L111[07:38:03] <ben_mkiv> whats the difference of staging to original?
L112[07:38:20] *** Lizzy changes topic to Forums: https://oc.cil.li/ | Wiki: http://ocd.cil.li/ | Latest version: 1.7.5 | Dev Builds: http://ci.cil.li/ | Channel Rules: https://oc.cil.li/topic/171-oc-channel-rules/ | Stats: https://oclogs.pc-logix.com/stats.html | Discord: https://discord.gg/bYqKv7h
L113[07:38:52] <ben_mkiv> oh the holy barcode reader got merged
L114[07:39:42] <asie> ben_mkiv: read https://charset.asie.pl/ocstaging/
L115[07:40:00] <Lizzy> https://oc.cil.li/topic/1996-oc-175-released/
L116[07:40:08] <asie> tl;dr optimized, much more efficient rendering code; updated JNLua with fixes and optimizations; updated LuaJ with better accuracy to Lua 5.2; and Lua 5.4
L117[07:40:23] <asie> (though i need to update LuaJ again, the new dev has done a LOT of fixes)
L118[07:41:01] <ben_mkiv> thanks
L119[07:41:31] <ben_mkiv> now someone just has to port to 1.14.4 finally...
L120[07:41:43] <asie> oh, here's a fun fact
L121[07:41:50] <asie> OpenOS uses 20KB less RAM on 5.4 relative to 5.3, on start
L122[07:42:02] <asie> ben_mkiv: that is not trivially happening
L123[07:42:03] <AdorableCatgirl> w o t
L124[07:42:14] <ben_mkiv> i know, but it has to happen
L125[07:42:27] <Vexatos> asie, is that just -O3
L126[07:42:37] <asie> Vexatos: no, i compared -O2 5.3 and -O2 5.4 here
L127[07:42:42] <Vexatos> huh
L128[07:42:48] <asie> this is probably the GC changes
L129[07:42:49] <Vexatos> is 5.4 just that much better?
L130[07:42:50] <asie> in action
L131[07:42:53] <Vexatos> oh riight
L132[07:42:56] <Vexatos> they rewrote the GC
L133[07:43:13] <Vexatos> I forgot that over the disgusting const syntax
L134[07:43:25] <asie> also OpenOS and all just works on 5.4
L135[07:43:37] <asie> really, i just need enough users to confirm they have no problems OR give reproducible bug cases
L136[07:43:40] <asie> and we can merge it
L137[07:43:48] <Vexatos> well yea 5.4 had no deprecations
L138[07:43:49] <asie> Sangar has found an Eris bug that was fixed, so have I
L139[07:43:50] <Vexatos> for once
L140[07:43:59] <asie> so they should hopefully be gone now
L141[07:44:07] <asie> i just need payo's OK to post this on the forums
L142[07:44:11] <Vexatos> so is this kallisti version or?
L143[07:44:14] <asie> yes
L144[07:44:16] <Vexatos> nice
L145[07:44:19] <asie> it uses MovingBlocks Eris/JNLua
L146[07:44:28] <asie> and my own fork of LuaJ
L147[07:44:29] <Vexatos> payonel, ^
L148[07:44:44] <Vexatos> posting it on the forums is the natural next step I guess
L149[07:44:57] <ben_mkiv> still didnt get a pet renderer ;_;
L150[07:45:11] <ben_mkiv> %blame vexatos
L151[07:45:11] * MichiBot blames vexatos for ruptured tires
L152[07:45:32] <Vexatos> D:
L153[07:45:47] <asie> like
L154[07:45:55] <asie> if you want a Forge 1.14.4 port of OC I can probably have it done by Christmas
L155[07:46:05] <asie> but this won't solve any systemic problems with the codebase
L156[07:46:11] <asie> Fabric 1.14.4 would be tougher
L157[07:46:40] <ben_mkiv> i'm all for forge, because lets be honest, even if fabric is better, forge got more users and is probably more accepted by users
L158[07:46:45] <asie> there's one problem
L159[07:46:47] <asie> who created Fabric?
L160[07:47:03] <ben_mkiv> yea, which fool was that... :P
L161[07:47:07] <asie> yeah...
L162[07:47:13] <asie> like, the thing is, OC isn't that Forge-specific
L163[07:47:16] <asie> a huge chunk of the code, well, isn't
L164[07:47:26] <asie> this is how we still have 1.7.10, 1.10.2 and 1.12.2 versions with hefty backporting
L165[07:47:48] <Myros> does this work in lua?
L166[07:47:52] <ben_mkiv> yea, but wasn't 1.7.10 support supposed to be dropped except for critical bugfixes?
L167[07:47:57] <Myros> local row = 0
L168[07:47:59] <ben_mkiv> so could anything <1.12.2 imho
L169[07:48:01] <Myros> row ++
L170[07:48:11] <ben_mkiv> no, you need row = row + 1
L171[07:48:13] <Vexatos> basically all of li.cil.oc.server.machine is completely minecraft independent
L172[07:48:20] <Myros> thx
L173[07:48:22] <Vexatos> and that's basically the hard part of the mod
L174[07:48:32] <Vexatos> the rest is just grunt work
L175[07:48:39] <Vexatos> for the most part
L176[07:48:41] <Vexatos> except for rendering
L177[07:48:47] <asie> ben_mkiv: I'd say 1.10.2 should be dropped next
L178[07:48:57] <asie> 1.7.10 probably has more users and maintenance going forward, if only because of Greg
L179[07:49:03] <ben_mkiv> 1.11.2 isnt really relevant either
L180[07:49:05] <Vexatos> ben_mkiv, yes but 1.7.10 has a substantial OC using fanbase
L181[07:49:14] <Vexatos> because 1.7.10 has the kind of people who would use OC
L182[07:49:18] <Vexatos> i.e. gregtech pack players
L183[07:49:35] <Vexatos> just because the other versions have more installs doesn't mean they have that many more active users
L184[07:49:45] <ben_mkiv> but they missing out lots of content, because 2 mods didnt get ported to 1.12.2 yet?!
L185[07:49:56] <asie> 2 mods?
L186[07:49:59] <Vexatos> and I have had a nonzero amount of people in the past 6 months telling me how much they appreciate that OC is still maintained on 1.7
L187[07:50:02] <ben_mkiv> kinda
L188[07:50:12] <asie> the problem is GregTech will continue being developed on 1.7.10 at least until the end of 2019
L189[07:50:17] <ben_mkiv> Vexatos, so one?
L190[07:50:18] <Vexatos> yes
L191[07:50:21] <Vexatos> and gregtech is large enough
L192[07:50:35] <Vexatos> because its target group overlaps with OC's for a large part
L193[07:51:07] <asie> like, if OC's devs want to do 1.7.10, more power to them
L194[07:51:17] <Vexatos> GT:NH is a mod pack created in 2015 that is still being actively maintained (4500 commits on github, the last one five minutes ago)
L195[07:51:22] <asie> we could also consider collaborating with cam72cam on UniversalModCore
L196[07:51:27] <asie> which handles 1.7.10, 1.10.2, 1.11.2, 1.12.2 and 1.14.4
L197[07:51:28] <Vexatos> it contains OC and actually integrates it
L198[07:51:34] <Vexatos> it has large active player base
L199[07:51:39] <Vexatos> multiple official servers
L200[07:51:48] <Vexatos> that one alone is almost worth maintaining OC for
L201[07:52:13] <AdorableCatgirl> huh
L202[07:52:15] <AdorableCatgirl> neat
L203[07:52:27] <Vexatos> it's a mod pack where a server is actually meant to be played for years
L204[07:52:27] <ben_mkiv> but that could probably all be done in 1.12.2
L205[07:52:31] <AdorableCatgirl> i need to update my 1.7 pack anyways
L206[07:52:35] <Vexatos> because it is so large you can not physically run out of things to do
L207[07:52:39] <Vexatos> ben_mkiv, no
L208[07:52:45] <Izaya> >Barcode reader upgrade
L209[07:52:46] <Izaya> neat
L210[07:52:48] <Vexatos> gregtech simply doesn't exist on 1.12
L211[07:52:55] <asie> but yes, i'd like to continue working on improving OC
L212[07:52:56] <ben_mkiv> there are so many expert modpacks which could be a good base to start integrating OC if one wants to
L213[07:53:00] <Vexatos> and that mod is so large it is practically its own game
L214[07:53:00] <asie> getting oc-staging tested would be great
L215[07:53:09] <asie> it's a +50% performance boost for Lua code, Lua 5.4, and a major FPS boost for most users
L216[07:53:19] <Vexatos> ben_mkiv, but noone does, and nothing comes close in scale or quality to GT:NH
L217[07:53:21] <ben_mkiv> Vexatos, what does gregtech add what doesnt exist in 1.12.2?
L218[07:53:24] <Vexatos> it is honestly a masterpiece of a mod
L219[07:53:28] <Vexatos> ben_mkiv, literally all of gregtech
L220[07:53:30] <asie> ben_mkiv: an actual tech tree
L221[07:53:32] <ben_mkiv> how many 1.12.2 expert packs did you play?
L222[07:53:33] <Vexatos> have you ever played it
L223[07:53:38] <asie> i know what expert packs are like
L224[07:53:39] <Vexatos> gregtech is the only mod that does what it does
L225[07:53:43] <asie> GT:NH has a bigger tech tree than any of them
L226[07:53:47] <asie> just out of 1.7.10 content
L227[07:53:49] <Vexatos> than most of them combined
L228[07:53:50] <Vexatos> relaly
L229[07:53:52] <Vexatos> really*
L230[07:54:01] <Vexatos> you can get through FTB's "expert" packs in months
L231[07:54:08] <AdorableCatgirl> yea
L232[07:54:10] <Vexatos> GT:NH is more on the scale of years
L233[07:54:16] <ben_mkiv> im not talking about FTB
L234[07:54:24] <Vexatos> tell me another mod pack that takes years to complete
L235[07:54:25] <asie> either way, regardless of whatever, version fanboyism needs to get out of this channel
L236[07:54:29] <Vexatos> yes
L237[07:54:30] <asie> i'm working on a 1.4.7 mod as we speak
L238[07:54:32] <asie> so shush
L239[07:54:40] <ben_mkiv> years of playtime?
L240[07:54:40] <asie> thanks
L241[07:54:41] <Vexatos> payonel wants to drop 1.7, but I don't, for now it staysd
L242[07:54:43] <Izaya> Vexatos: where's the info is there a page about universalmodcore
L243[07:54:48] <Vexatos> stays*
L244[07:54:52] <AdorableCatgirl> 1.7.10 has a few mods i just generally want
L245[07:54:55] <asie> Izaya: not really, it's used in IMmersive Railroading tho
L246[07:55:04] <asie> Vexatos: Is GT:NH adding Immersive Railroading by the way?
L247[07:55:05] <Izaya> sorry that was unnecessary pushy I started writing one thing and forgot and wrote another with the same meaning
L248[07:55:07] <Vexatos> 1.7 also has the last good version of thaumcraft
L249[07:55:07] <asie> I am genuinely curious
L250[07:55:17] <Vexatos> that is another good reason to stay on it
L251[07:55:18] <asie> Vexatos: there's an unofficial Thaumcraft 4 fork on 4chan
L252[07:55:27] <ben_mkiv> Vexatos, yea thats one thing i could agree with
L253[07:55:32] <asie> and Thaumic Horizons too, or whatever it was called
L254[07:55:34] <asie> I've long hoped to get the devs of it involved in a legal approach to the same thing
L255[07:55:41] <Izaya> I agree, b1.7 is the best version of Minecraft :^)
L256[07:55:47] <AdorableCatgirl> kek
L257[07:55:54] <ben_mkiv> asie, how is there a fork if its closed source?
L258[07:55:54] <Vexatos> asie, https://www.technicpack.net/modpack/mcnewhorizons.677387/mods
L259[07:55:56] <Izaya> oh you said thaumcraft
L260[07:56:00] <Izaya> apologies I just woke up
L261[07:56:06] <asie> ben_mkiv: it's 4chan
L262[07:56:16] <asie> you decompile the mod, patch it, and post it anonymously so you can't get easily DMCA'd
L263[07:56:18] <asie> it's that easy
L264[07:56:19] <ben_mkiv> so they deobfuscated and ported it?
L265[07:56:20] <AdorableCatgirl> decompile ez
L266[07:56:21] <asie> yes lol
L267[07:56:25] <asie> not ported tho
L268[07:56:27] <asie> it's still on 1.7.10
L269[07:56:28] <Vexatos> asie, it has railcraft but no IR
L270[07:56:37] <ben_mkiv> nvm ;(
L271[07:56:49] <Izaya> which version of thaumcraft was on like, release 1.0 or 1.1
L272[07:56:53] <Izaya> was that 2 or 3 or something?
L273[07:56:56] <asie> that would be thaumcraft 1 i think
L274[07:57:02] <ben_mkiv> well Vexatos... go play Enigmatica2Expert if you want a good 1.12.2 expert pack
L275[07:57:11] <asie> also y'all should play All Of Fabric :^)
L276[07:57:18] <Vexatos> but yea ben_mkiv GT:NH is basically one of the top 3 mod packs ever made and probably #1 in terms of pure philosophy, that alone makes me want to keep supporting it.
L277[07:57:29] <Vexatos> ben_mkiv, I don't want a good 1.12 expert pack they all are dwarved by this
L278[07:57:45] <Izaya> last time I played with thaumcraft properly was 1.0 or 1.1 whoops
L279[07:57:49] <Vexatos> Tell me another mod pack that is still being actively developed and improved after four years
L280[07:58:01] <Vexatos> with the devs listening to the community actively on all issues
L281[07:58:11] <Vexatos> and also listening to the mod devs
L282[07:58:34] <ben_mkiv> well in e2e you have to use EVERY mod to progress
L283[07:58:52] <Vexatos> because the pack includes one of my own mods, Tinkers' Gregworks, and I have certain, uh, philosophies about that one, and the main dev actually listened to them and integrated the mod in a way that I can agree with
L284[07:58:57] <ben_mkiv> dont tell me that this is like any ftb expert stuff that someone threw together on a weekend
L285[07:59:11] <Vexatos> (it is the only mod pack using that mod)
L286[07:59:47] <Vexatos> ben_mkiv, GT:NH did that four years ago
L287[07:59:49] <Vexatos> and still does it today
L288[07:59:54] <Vexatos> that's my point
L289[07:59:59] <Vexatos> it is _the single best_ hardcore pack
L290[08:00:05] <Vexatos> of all the ones I know
L291[08:00:09] <Vexatos> it does everything right
L292[08:00:11] <ben_mkiv> so it does the same
L293[08:00:13] <ben_mkiv> but for 1.7.10
L294[08:00:15] <ben_mkiv> xD
L295[08:00:32] <Vexatos> and with gregtech
L296[08:00:37] <ben_mkiv> yea i got it
L297[08:01:20] <Vexatos> stop hating on 1.7.10
L298[08:01:30] <ben_mkiv> stop hating on 1.12.2
L299[08:01:40] <Vexatos> 1.12.2 adds less to 1.7.10 than gregtech does
L300[08:01:40] <asie> Vexatos has not once hated on 1.12.2
L301[08:01:42] <ben_mkiv> like they couldnt do what was possible on a 5 years old mc version
L302[08:01:46] <Vexatos> that is just a fact
L303[08:01:51] <asie> everything is possible on a 5 years old mc version if you try hard enough
L304[08:01:54] <Vexatos> so if you go with the "new stuff" argument
L305[08:01:55] <asie> factorization's chunk shenanigans were 1.7.10
L306[08:01:57] <Vexatos> you lose
L307[08:02:17] <Vexatos> I don't hate on 1.12
L308[08:02:27] <Vexatos> It's just wrong to say it's better
L309[08:02:48] <ben_mkiv> i'm just saying that it provides more content
L310[08:02:51] <Vexatos> the fact of the matter is that gregtech alone makes 1.7 the currently best version for hardcore players, and that is a target group that OC very much works for
L311[08:03:03] <Vexatos> ben_mkiv, it provides less content than 1.7+gregtech that is my point
L312[08:03:13] <asie> GregTech is a massive mod, it really is
L313[08:03:16] <ben_mkiv> can't tell about the grind, as i've never played GT and you've never played e2e or an ATM expert pack
L314[08:03:17] <Vexatos> gregtech has dungeons you know
L315[08:03:20] <Vexatos> world gen
L316[08:03:24] <ben_mkiv> grind != content
L317[08:03:30] <Vexatos> gregtech 4 was grind
L318[08:03:34] <Vexatos> gregtech 5 is almost no grind
L319[08:03:43] <Vexatos> gregtech 6 is something else entirely
L320[08:03:46] <asie> i'd like to make a GT6-heavy 1.12.2 modpack
L321[08:03:56] <Vexatos> yea noone has attempted that yet
L322[08:03:57] <asie> at some point
L323[08:03:58] <Vexatos> other than bear
L324[08:04:03] <Vexatos> but bear's is just his own
L325[08:04:05] <Izaya> I remember playing GT4
L326[08:04:07] <Izaya> that was fun
L327[08:04:10] <Izaya> in a painful sort of way
L328[08:04:17] <Vexatos> ben_mkiv, if you never played GT5 you don't know what you are talking about
L329[08:04:30] <asie> and if you've never played E2E neither do you, Vexatos
L330[08:04:38] <asie> you should both play each other's experience to find out
L331[08:04:41] <Vexatos> the whole philosophy of GT5 is that the game is hard, and your goal as the master of automation is to automate the grind away
L332[08:04:46] <asie> but Vexatos will scream no time and ben_mkiv will scream >1.7
L333[08:04:46] <AdorableCatgirl> both r bad ez
L334[08:04:50] <Vexatos> it's basically factorio
L335[08:04:51] <Vexatos> but 3D
L336[08:05:34] <Vexatos> if you like factorio you'll likely enjoy gregtech
L337[08:05:54] <Vexatos> GT:NH just turns the dial up to 500
L338[08:05:59] <Vexatos> by making _every_ mod like that
L339[08:06:19] <asie> so does every modern expert modpack tho
L340[08:06:34] <Vexatos> except modern expert packs tend to have one single linear path to the finish
L341[08:06:42] <asie> haha what?
L342[08:06:51] <asie> modern does not mean 2015
L343[08:07:22] <Vexatos> I mean I watch expert pack twitch streams, most of them look the same
L344[08:07:32] <Vexatos> the early game is interesting and different usually
L345[08:07:40] <Vexatos> but the late game is just all craft things in grindy ways
L346[08:08:01] <Vexatos> there was one pack from uh like 1 year ago that I forgot the name of
L347[08:08:05] <Vexatos> that was pretty cool
L348[08:09:39] <Vexatos> But I am also a big tech mod fan and, well, 1.12 isn't really into the difficult tech mod thing, maybe I am just biased towards gregtech
L349[08:10:10] <Vexatos> but TL;DR as long as I can convince payo to keep 1.7 alive it'll stay alive :P
L350[08:10:17] <Forecaster> https://youtu.be/dqwpQarrDwk
L351[08:10:18] <MichiBot> 1,000km Cable to the Stars - The Skyhook | length: 8m 15s | Likes: 21,644 Dislikes: 107 Views: 195,210 | by Kurzgesagt – In a Nutshell | Published On 17/11/2019
L352[08:12:49] <ben_mkiv> nice
L353[08:13:16] <Vexatos> asie, not sure how fast one can drop 1.10 it has a very large number of mod packs
L354[08:13:42] <Vexatos> I wish we could somehow gauge the number of actually active OC users
L355[08:13:46] <Vexatos> on each version
L356[08:14:08] <ben_mkiv> look at addon downloads?
L357[08:14:15] <Vexatos> download counts are stupid
L358[08:14:20] <Vexatos> Because kitchen sink packs exist
L359[08:14:31] <asie> Vexatos: the problem is a lot of 1.10 modpacks are not being updated
L360[08:14:34] <Vexatos> and since CC is dead they just all throw OC into it, blowing up the 1.12 download numbers
L361[08:14:37] <Vexatos> for addons too
L362[08:14:43] <Izaya> kitchen sink packs are my favourite
L363[08:14:44] <asie> so even if you update OC people won't get it
L364[08:14:52] <Vexatos> asie, probably correct
L365[08:15:00] <asie> also CC:Tweaked isn't dead and if we don't hurry up it may well take over 1.14
L366[08:15:06] <asie> it's not dead on Forge anyway
L367[08:15:08] <ben_mkiv> yea, but they less likely have that many modpack dependents
L368[08:15:19] <Vexatos> releasing a new OC version roughly twice a year gives interesting download count statistics at least
L369[08:15:46] <Vexatos> asie, CC:T is the scary unofficial fork oh no I will not include it in my mod pack it may contain viruses!!!!11
L370[08:16:01] <asie> blah
L371[08:16:03] <asie> give it time
L372[08:16:03] <ben_mkiv> asie, yea also thought of adding CC support, and maybe adding back OC support in 2025 xD
L373[08:16:06] <ben_mkiv> when its ported
L374[08:18:45] <ben_mkiv> https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/cc-tweaked/relations/dependents not really a problem for most people
L375[08:21:23] <Vexatos> I am still surprised everytime I see someone actually using OC
L376[08:24:01] <Vexatos> asie, is there a PR for the Lua update yet?
L377[08:24:15] <asie> no
L378[08:24:23] <Vexatos> only the render upgrade
L379[08:24:28] <asie> i'm waiting with that until Lua 5.4.0 stabilizes
L380[08:24:32] <asie> and OC-staging gets more testing done
L381[08:24:33] <Vexatos> yea
L382[08:24:35] <Vexatos> that should be, like
L383[08:24:37] <asie> I think that will be a good point i ntime to do it
L384[08:24:39] <Vexatos> any moment now basically
L385[08:24:49] <asie> and testing is important!
L386[08:24:51] <asie> porting Eris was a bit painful
L387[08:24:55] <asie> so we need tests, lots of tests
L388[08:24:56] <Vexatos> especially with a fundamental change
L389[08:25:11] <Myros> Lua says here is a "then" missing... hod can i fix that? if computer.energy() > 10000 then return true end
L390[08:25:12] <Vexatos> like switching to a new eris fork and a new Lua version and a new rendering engine basically
L391[08:25:15] <asie> there's also this one dev working on persisting hook-yielded coroutines
L392[08:25:56] <asie> which would allow some amazing stuff
L393[08:26:06] <ben_mkiv> if computer.energy() > 10000 then return true; end
L394[08:26:09] <ben_mkiv> if its a oneliner
L395[08:26:32] <Vexatos> no
L396[08:26:52] <Vexatos> lua does not need any semicolons
L397[08:26:57] <Vexatos> they are 100% optional
L398[08:26:57] <ben_mkiv> then try it
L399[08:27:03] <ben_mkiv> %lua if true then return false end
L400[08:27:03] <MichiBot> false
L401[08:27:08] <Vexatos> %lua if not a then return true end
L402[08:27:08] <MichiBot> true
L403[08:27:19] <ben_mkiv> well, in OC it didnt work for me
L404[08:27:25] <asie> if so, then that's a bug
L405[08:27:46] <ben_mkiv> let me startup mc
L406[08:28:54] <Vexatos> you can write any lua program in a single line without using semicolons
L407[08:29:12] <Vexatos> newlines are also purely optional
L408[08:29:49] * Izaya laughs in minifier
L409[08:29:54] <Vexatos> yup
L410[08:30:11] <ben_mkiv> huh, it works
L411[08:30:16] <ben_mkiv> im pretty sure that it was an issue at some point
L412[08:31:23] <fingercomp> Vexatos: they are optional most of the time, but sometimes they are not
L413[08:32:25] <ben_mkiv> ah, its a problem when you call a function in the return statement
L414[08:32:34] <Vexatos> fingercomp, example?
L415[08:32:40] <ben_mkiv> %lua function foo() return false end if true then return foo() end
L416[08:32:40] <MichiBot> false
L417[08:33:08] <fingercomp> Vexatos: (function(x) return x^2 end)(4);(function(x) return x end)(4)
L418[08:33:50] <Vexatos> you might be right
L419[08:35:49] <Forecaster> everyone knows might makes right
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L424[09:12:40] <AdorableCatgirl> ei
L425[09:12:42] <AdorableCatgirl> ia
L426[09:17:43] <Myros> can someone explain what "attemt to call nil value (global "status") " means?
L427[09:18:24] <AdorableCatgirl> status is undefined
L428[09:19:37] <Myros> i have a local function Status() , what does he need more?
L429[09:19:52] <AdorableCatgirl> case sensitive
L430[09:19:58] <ben_mkiv> did you define it after your call?
L431[09:20:03] <AdorableCatgirl> it needs to be visible
L432[09:20:34] <Myros> how do i make it visible? (paste: https://pastebin.com/uu0vkCDR)
L433[09:20:53] <Myros> it was defined before the call
L434[09:21:07] <ben_mkiv> define it before Maintenance()
L435[09:22:02] <Myros> ah i think i get it, even if i dont call it, if i use it in another function i still has to be on top, right?
L436[09:22:19] <ben_mkiv> somehow yes
L437[09:24:21] <Myros> is this normal for other languages like python?
L438[09:24:50] <ben_mkiv> no
L439[09:24:59] <ben_mkiv> maybe there are some, but im not aware of any
L440[09:27:04] <AmandaC> you can also have `locaal <function-name>` at the top aand define them whenever, ,as long as they're not getting called before they're defined
L441[09:27:59] <Svemat> have anyone used the api called GUI (https://github.com/IgorTimofeev/GUI) and knows how to change the size of text?
L442[09:28:34] <Bob> you can't change the size of text in OC
L443[09:28:38] <Svemat> oh
L444[09:28:39] <Bob> since you have cells and not pixels
L445[09:28:46] <Bob> you can change the resolution
L446[09:28:52] <Bob> and make less pixels fit on a screen
L447[09:29:01] <Bob> but not have big and small text at once
L448[09:29:06] <Svemat> well shit then
L449[09:29:53] <Myros> ok i am a point further, i have not a "attempt to perform arithmetic on a nil value (global "row")" what does this mean?
L450[09:29:58] <Izaya> there's an API for big text
L451[09:30:08] <Izaya> Myros: you tried to do maths on a variable that was nil
L452[09:30:23] <AmandaC> You tried to math row before you assigned to row
L453[09:30:46] <Myros> i definded row at the start
L454[09:30:48] <Myros> local row = 0
L455[09:31:49] <Myros> i call CheckStart() and this includes every variable
L456[09:31:52] <Bob> it says you didn't
L457[09:32:25] <AmandaC> IT's local to CheckStart, no the file
L458[09:33:04] <Myros> ok so i should set these to global?
L459[09:33:17] <AmandaC> or define them outside checkstart and assign them in it
L460[09:34:10] <Izaya> scope is important
L461[09:35:14] <Myros> thank you, now it moves the first time
L462[09:36:25] <Bob> yea locals are only defined in their scope and subscopes
L463[09:36:35] <Bob> in your case inside the function
L464[09:37:32] <Svemat> does redstone io block reset on server restart and when the computer turns off?
L465[09:45:16] <Forecaster> yes
L466[09:46:32] <Forecaster> or do you mean when the minecraft server restarts?
L467[09:46:34] <Forecaster> if so no
L468[09:49:30] <Svemat> okay, but there is no way to make text bigger beacuse i need to stand right up to my screen to be able to read
L469[09:49:56] <Svemat> https://i.imgur.com/pB9pyQV.png
L470[09:50:14] <Forecaster> change the resolution
L471[09:50:25] <Svemat> how?
L472[09:50:51] <Forecaster> `resolution <height> <width>`
L473[09:51:02] <Forecaster> or maybe it's the other way around
L474[09:51:39] <Izaya> finally got around to setting up my storage system on Ariri's server https://i.imgur.com/b988i1m.png
L475[09:51:40] <Myros> ok now i have a problem. if the script works or not depends if i tiped in term.clear() in the lua prompt
L476[09:51:48] <Myros> %tonk
L477[09:51:49] <MichiBot> Potzblitz! Myros! You beat your own previous record of 51 minutes and 48 seconds (By 1 hour and 38 minutes)! I hope you're happy!
L478[09:51:50] <MichiBot> Myros's new record is 2 hours, 29 minutes and 49 seconds! No points gained for stealing from yourself. (Lost out on 0.00163)
L479[09:52:21] <Myros> if i didnt typed that he gets a nil error
L480[09:56:54] <Myros> i think thats a bug
L481[09:57:18] <Forecaster> what nil error
L482[10:00:30] <Bob> there are no bugs in OC, only in the scripts
L483[10:00:31] <Bob> ¯\(ツ)/¯
L484[10:01:06] <Myros> "attempt to index a nil value (global "term")"
L485[10:01:26] <Myros> if i open a lua prompt and type term.clear()
L486[10:01:30] <Forecaster> you are not requiring term in your script
L487[10:01:31] <Myros> it works the next time
L488[10:01:50] <Bob> term isn't defined
L489[10:01:52] <Bob> you need to require it
L490[10:02:38] <Myros> thx, but should that work if i promt that from hand?
L491[10:02:52] <Myros> since the script still dont requilre term
L492[10:02:56] <AmandaC> I think what Myros is a bug.
L493[10:03:02] <AmandaC> s/is /is saying/
L494[10:03:03] <MichiBot> <AmandaC> I think what Myros is sayinga bug.
L495[10:03:28] <Forecaster> %stab the bug
L496[10:03:29] <MichiBot> Forecaster is stabbing the bug with a Shiny 1x Compressed Sentence! (10%) for 1d6 = 2 damage!
L497[10:03:31] <AmandaC> unless they did something weird with the environment (defined a new `term` API) it should work without the require in the lua REPL
L498[10:03:57] <Myros> it does work without require in lua REPL
L499[10:04:09] <Bob> because the OpenOS REPL has preload
L500[10:04:12] <Myros> and if i did that it even works in a script without require
L501[10:04:13] <Bob> and preloads packages
L502[10:04:22] <Bob> your scritps aren't being ran in the REPL
L503[10:04:36] <Bob> OpenOs just adds a layer of sugar in the REPL
L504[10:04:42] <Bob> that you don't have in your scripts
L505[10:05:01] <Myros> but something in lua REPL is changed, that my script them works without require
L506[10:05:13] <Forecaster> just require term in your script
L507[10:05:16] <Bob> i said it preloads the llibraries
L508[10:05:21] <AmandaC> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/blob/master-MC1.7.10/src/main/resources/assets/opencomputers/loot/openos/lib/core/lua_shell.lua#L13-L16
L509[10:05:23] <Bob> just require it already in your script as a local
L510[10:05:27] <Bob> and the problem will be sloved
L511[10:05:38] <Myros> i've done that xD thx
L512[10:05:48] <AmandaC> in a script you need to require, the REPL does it automatically for you for ease of use.
L513[10:08:16] <Forecaster> Amanda I think you missed the actual point, but it's irrelevant because they should just require term in the script so it's a non-issue
L514[10:08:34] <AmandaC> Seems so.
L515[10:08:40] * AmandaC goes back to halucinating fantastical stories
L516[10:09:27] <AdorableCatgirl> tsuki's os.deadline should be nice for big lööps
L517[10:15:05] <Forecaster> %sip
L518[10:15:06] <MichiBot> You drink a cloudy black potion (New!). Once empty the potion bottle fills with a different potion.
L519[10:15:13] <Forecaster> %sip
L520[10:15:13] <MichiBot> You drink a viscous moonstone potion (New!). Forecaster feels a sudden surge of static electricity.
L521[10:15:18] <Forecaster> ack
L522[10:28:12] <Inari> @Forecaster: syn
L523[10:30:43] <Myros> i have the sidesapi in my requirements but robot.detect(bottom) detects stuff in front of him, not on his bottom
L524[10:31:45] <Inari> Try sides.bottom? :D
L525[10:31:52] <Inari> No clue
L526[10:31:56] <Bob> isn't there a down and up function for every robot function
L527[10:32:01] <Bob> ie detectDown maybe
L528[10:32:03] <Inari> Oh, right
L529[10:32:11] * Inari hasn't actually used OC in ages
L530[10:32:20] <Bob> ^
L531[10:32:44] <Inari> %pet the inactive AmandaC
L532[10:32:44] <MichiBot> Inari is brushing the inactive AmandaC with spiky collar. the inactive AmandaC regains 1d4 = 3 hit points!
L533[10:33:05] <Bob> for no reason i've lost intrest in MC and coding once again
L534[10:33:24] <Inari> I do coding. And I do MC at times. But just a modpack (sevtech ages) or Vanilla
L535[10:34:10] <Bob> i still didn't finish my node editor or port WFC SimpleTiled to Lua
L536[10:36:20] * AmandaC meows at Inari for disrupting her halucinations
L537[10:36:27] <Inari> Ohi
L538[10:37:45] <Forecaster> Inari: noping
L539[10:37:46] <Forecaster> also what
L540[10:43:22] <Pix Vectri> Is this thing on?
L541[10:43:38] <Forecaster> no
L542[10:43:44] <Forecaster> try hitting it
L543[10:43:46] <Pix Vectri> Figures. ?
L544[10:58:34] <Ariri> Izaya: I’ll come by and check out your system, looks interesting
L545[10:58:34] <Ariri> I haven’t been on much because i’m pretty ill for no reason
L546[11:04:22] <Myros> my farmer seems to work, but sometimes he pretends a sapling is a tree and destroys them (he compares it to his sapling in his 2. slot) but most of the time it seem to work
L547[11:08:18] <Inari> @Ariri On where? :o
L548[11:08:22] <Inari> @Forecaster TCP
L549[11:08:58] <Ariri> Inari: Direwolf20 1.12.2 server with some additional mods
L550[11:09:12] <Inari> public?
L551[11:09:24] <Ariri> Private, I’m hosting it
L552[11:09:37] <Inari> I see
L553[11:09:46] <Forecaster> Inari what
L554[11:09:49] <Inari> How private? :o
L555[11:09:55] <Inari> @Forecaster you ack'ed so I syn'ed
L556[11:09:59] <Ariri> You’re welcome to join
L557[11:10:07] <Inari> :3
L558[11:10:10] <Forecaster> I don't know what that means
L559[11:10:12] <Ariri> ^~^
L560[11:10:20] <Inari> @Forecaster TCP uses syn and ack commands D:
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L562[11:11:33] <Ariri> Sent it to you
L563[11:15:18] <Izaya> Ariri: I'm yet to set up automation using it
L564[11:16:07] <Izaya> but I've been planning that a bit, gonna use another computer with a transposer, or maybe the same one
L565[11:16:52] <Ariri> :0
L566[11:18:23] <Ariri> Anyone else want to join the server :3
L567[11:18:42] <Izaya> half inclined to set up a dedicated computer to control it over the network
L568[11:19:07] <Ariri> That’d be cool
L569[11:20:12] <Izaya> I have the whole RPC thing so I could expose the transposer component
L570[11:22:41] <Ariri> I’ve been getting automation started but it’s slow going, only half my brain was working yesterday
L571[11:24:43] <Ariri> I think i’ll just go for a Big Reactor controlled by a Computer which I’ll hook up to your network and figure out how to activate/raise the fuel rods when someone needs power
L572[11:24:53] <Ariri> despite not knowing much lua
L573[11:25:02] <Izaya> I'm gonna abuse EnderIO item conduits
L574[11:25:24] <Izaya> so I can apply arbitrary operations to items in the system
L575[11:25:47] <Ariri> aboose
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L577[11:28:36] <stephan48> welcome to IRC(or the Dark Side!) Ariri !
L578[11:28:45] <stephan48> s/ !/!/
L579[11:28:47] <MichiBot> <stephan48> welcome to IRC(or the Dark Side!) Ariri!
L580[11:29:33] <Myros> @Ariri i would love to join
L581[11:29:51] <Inari> s/dark/lewd/
L582[11:29:57] <Ariri> Thanks stephan48 !
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L584[11:30:19] <Ariri> Myros: I’ll PM you the info :)
L585[11:30:31] <Izaya> You know what I should do? I should set up an RPC server for OpenOS to export the internet card
L586[11:31:24] <Ariri> Inari: heh
L587[11:38:24] <AdorableCatgirl> Ariri: @Ariri when are we getting OSSM :^P
L588[11:40:17] <Ariri> OSSM?
L589[11:47:45] <AdorableCatgirl> opensolidstate
L590[11:48:26] <AdorableCatgirl> tho i guess i should get 1.1 out first
L591[11:49:08] <Ariri> Oh :P
L592[11:49:12] <AdorableCatgirl> i should warn
L593[11:49:15] <AdorableCatgirl> if you do add it
L594[11:49:18] <AdorableCatgirl> you also need forgelin
L595[11:49:22] <AdorableCatgirl> :P
L596[11:49:42] <Ariri> If that’s a mod you want then I’ll add them both
L597[11:50:01] <AdorableCatgirl> ye, me and izaya would ~~ab~~use it
L598[11:50:35] <AdorableCatgirl> them 128k EEPROM cards
L599[11:50:46] <Izaya> PCI-X SSDs
L600[11:50:50] <AdorableCatgirl> Izaya: psychos on uC again
L601[11:51:01] <Izaya> yee
L602[11:51:02] <AdorableCatgirl> also
L603[11:51:07] <Izaya> big farms of compute servers
L604[11:51:13] <AdorableCatgirl> i need to make compute cards
L605[11:51:37] <AdorableCatgirl> so we can finally have encrypted network cards and RAID cards and shit
L606[11:51:47] <AdorableCatgirl> also i had a big brain idea for an OC arch
L607[11:51:51] <Ariri> I’ll add it in a bit as we’ve added a lot of mods and don’t want to annoy people it’ll be put in with other mods ppl are likely to request
L608[11:52:03] <AdorableCatgirl> ye
L609[11:52:15] <Lizzy> I like how earlier i said i was gonna re-install my pc yet here i am 6 hours into a factorio session
L610[11:53:58] <AdorableCatgirl> OSSM is pretty small atm
L611[11:54:17] <AmandaC> Lizzy: it's okay, you can stop any timme you want to, right? :P
L612[11:54:37] <Izaya> https://i.imgur.com/QIpIMyT.png
L613[11:54:41] <Lizzy> yeah... just need to do this one last thing
L614[11:54:42] <AdorableCatgirl> and forgelin will make it so if i make anymore mods ~~at izaya's request~~, i won't want to commit liven't
L615[11:54:44] <Lizzy> :P
L616[11:55:02] <AdorableCatgirl> wut
L617[11:55:05] <Izaya> Given there's ICBM now, two layers of skystone above the storage system.
L618[11:55:06] * AmandaC giggles
L619[11:55:17] <AdorableCatgirl> i'll try to get on in a bit
L620[11:55:19] <Izaya> AdorableCatgirl: Hey! That was only once. Twice.
L621[11:55:33] <AdorableCatgirl> first i gotta swap an HDD out in my desktop
L622[11:55:40] <AdorableCatgirl> so i can reinstall arch
L623[11:55:41] <Izaya> Maybe 3 if you count separate requests.
L624[11:55:45] <AdorableCatgirl> using btrfs
L625[11:55:49] <AdorableCatgirl> this time
L626[11:56:26] <AdorableCatgirl> actually i might repartition my SSD
L627[11:58:09] <AdorableCatgirl> actually lemme see how expensive a small SSD would be
L628[11:58:24] <Ariri> Izaya: There’s no danger unless you agree to fight someone
L629[11:58:25] <AdorableCatgirl> because i'd totally make a hybrid setup for my desktop's linux install
L630[11:58:38] <Izaya> Ariri: no fun in not being paranoid
L631[11:58:39] <AdorableCatgirl> shit
L632[11:58:47] <AdorableCatgirl> i gotta finish that server for my friend
L633[11:59:01] <Lizzy> hmm, i wonder if my laptop would be able to run this save decently...
L634[11:59:10] <Izaya> https://letsalllovela.in/media/ae2dfca782b2d50e682f9b3540e47342039d6370d9079084bb0819cd3d056386.jpg
L635[11:59:24] <Ariri> True
L636[11:59:34] <Izaya> AdorableCatgirl: I added a music bot to the mumble server btw
L637[11:59:51] <Izaya> it can stream lainchan radio
L638[12:01:49] <Lizzy> hmm, okay aparrently manjaro on my laptop is missing some video libs for 32 bit... oh well
L639[12:01:55] <Lizzy> oh
L640[12:02:01] <Lizzy> nvm it can't load without them
L641[12:02:04] <Lizzy> yay
L642[12:03:00] <AmandaC> Lizzy: libva.so.2?
L643[12:03:23] <AmandaC> I had something liek that happen recently too, NixOS updated the package recently to fix it
L644[12:03:30] <Lizzy> yeah, and also libva-x11.so.2
L645[12:03:32] <Lizzy> hmm
L646[12:03:52] <AmandaC> Will have to either install them manually, or waitfor the pkgbuild to be updated
L647[12:05:16] <Lizzy> lemme reboot my laptop, i did update packages on it and haven't restarted yet
L648[12:06:26] <Lizzy> nvm, still has issues...
L649[12:06:30] <Lizzy> i'll google in a bit
L650[12:23:32] <AdorableCatgirl> oh yeah
L651[12:23:33] <AdorableCatgirl> SSD time
L652[12:24:10] <Izaya> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9VxJMIxAmc
L653[12:24:10] <MichiBot> ABBA - Mamma Mia on FLOPPOTRON | length: 3m 34s | Likes: 2,433 Dislikes: 7 Views: 13,593 | by Paweł Zadrożniak | Published On 17/11/2019
L654[12:24:20] <Izaya> I should get myself an M.2 SATA SSD
L655[12:36:09] <Izaya> I can get a 120GB WD Green for $29
L656[12:46:17] <Forecaster> %sip
L657[12:46:17] <MichiBot> You drink a fluffy gold potion (New!). Everything Forecaster says is now in Comic Sans until they see a bird.
L658[12:46:17] <ben_mkiv> lately noticed that there are PCIex cards that allows you to attach M2 SSDs to mobos without m2 connector
L659[12:46:22] <Forecaster> %tonk blindly
L660[12:46:22] <MichiBot> Gadsbudlikins! Forecaster! You beat Myros's previous record of 2 hours, 29 minutes and 49 seconds (By 24 minutes and 44 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L661[12:46:23] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 2 hours, 54 minutes and 33 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.00123 (0.00041 x 3) tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L662[12:47:45] <Izaya> Ariri: I set up a magma crucible at the forge, not sure if you still want to provide with your ender tank or not, but I'm gonna be melting all the granite and other garbage
L663[12:48:52] <Ariri> Ah i’ll leave it for now and if i need i’ll take it
L664[12:49:14] <Ariri> My pihole is not working now grr
L665[13:01:56] <Inari> Oh my
L666[13:04:46] <AmandaC> %bap Inari
L667[13:04:46] * MichiBot baps Inari with Murder Present
L668[13:09:11] <Inari> AmandaC: Hm?
L669[13:10:26] <Ariri> To change the DNS server on Raspbian id go to dhcpcd.conf right?
L670[13:12:19] <Izaya> or /etc/resolvconf.conf or similar
L671[13:13:21] <Ariri> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/uyozorimaq
L672[13:13:35] <Ariri> this is the only thing uncommented so i dont think its affecting it
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L674[13:14:21] <bauen1> @Ariri to change the DNS server used for lookups, edit /etc/resolv.conf
L675[13:14:51] <bauen1> unless that points to 127.0.0.1 in that case you need to edit your local dns servers config
L676[13:15:34] <Ariri> That's blank for me
L677[13:15:38] <Ariri> Izaya's worked
L678[13:15:50] <Ariri> But still no resolution, will try reboot
L679[13:15:53] <Izaya> then you need to run uh
L680[13:15:58] <Izaya> I think the tool is called resolvconf
L681[13:16:00] <Izaya> but I'm not 100%
L682[13:16:11] * Izaya doesn't use it, static resolv.conf
L683[13:17:00] <AmandaC> It's likely a systemd unit you should restart, resolvconf is meant for stuff where it's not likely to be completely logical to always connect to the same dns servers. Work firewalls / VPNs and such, so desktop linux
L684[13:17:25] <AmandaC> `systemctl restart resolvconf.service`
L685[13:18:10] <Ariri> I tried both resolvconf and the systemctl restart
L686[13:18:19] <Ariri> trying a reboot anyways
L687[13:18:36] <Ariri> (It didn't resolve)
L688[13:19:51] <Ariri> :(
L689[13:22:45] <bauen1> @Ariri if you have openresolv / resolvconf installed, 'sudo resolvconf -u' should do the trick (and possibly editing /etc/resolvconf.conf)
L690[13:23:27] <Ariri> I dont have those installed, not to my memory, and that command doesnt exist
L691[13:23:41] <AmandaC> in that case you just edit resolv.conf
L692[13:25:01] <Ariri> No such file when saving it
L693[13:25:03] <Ariri> strange
L694[13:25:17] <AmandaC> `/etc/resolv.conf`?
L695[13:26:00] <Ariri> Yup
L696[13:27:06] <Ariri> http://tinyurl.com/wzaek3l
L697[13:28:17] <Lizzy> you seem to be missing the initial /
L698[13:29:18] <Ariri> oh just read this
L699[13:29:18] <Ariri> https://i.imgur.com/AhYvjLz.png
L700[13:29:47] <Lizzy> yeah, but it still looks like you were missing the initial / from the path
L701[13:29:56] <Lizzy> according to the output that nano gave
L702[13:30:07] <Ariri> Ah
L703[13:30:13] <Ariri> Missed that
L704[13:30:28] <Ariri> Wow thanks
L705[13:30:53] <Ariri> Everyone else was right then
L706[13:31:21] <Lizzy> also, I think Pihole has it's own config for setting the upstream server it uses IIRC
L707[13:32:00] * Lizzy hmms, needs to reset her password for her pihole
L708[13:32:13] <Ariri> It does but I set it to go to localhost (for Cloudflared DNS over HTTPS) and I updated it so it failed after awhile
L709[13:32:19] <Ariri> pihole -p
L710[13:32:33] <Ariri> -a -p
L711[13:33:04] <Ariri> eureka!
L712[13:33:12] <Lizzy> wait, it's not pihole i have
L713[13:33:13] <Lizzy> derp
L714[13:33:22] <Lizzy> i have AdGuard home running on my pi
L715[13:33:37] <Ariri> Ah
L716[13:33:40] <Lizzy> so ignore my comment about having a config area for the servers it uses lol
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L719[13:34:15] <Ariri> It does I think, unless Im thinking about it wrong
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L722[13:35:47] <Lizzy> oh... that's my pass for it... okay then
L723[13:37:53] <AmandaC> *******?
L724[13:38:10] <Lizzy> yes!
L725[13:40:22] <Ariri> uwu?
L726[13:40:49] <Izaya> https://carrot.army/media/67f41560e64ca38296d68b7431fe9b9f04ce1b33dbaa987478a9a795bd0dc870.png
L727[13:41:10] <Ariri> XD
L728[13:41:30] <Izaya> anyone else hype?
L729[13:42:10] <Lizzy> ooh, Adguard home now has a dns rewrite thingy
L730[13:43:26] <Lizzy> awesome, not that i have much use for it but now i can just have addresses for internal stuff point to the internal ip rather than my external ip
L731[13:43:34] <Ariri> Hype
L732[13:59:20] <Izaya> Ariri: question, what sort of uplink does your server has
L733[13:59:30] <AmandaC> tincan and string
L734[13:59:51] <Lizzy> 10 speed
L735[13:59:57] <Ariri> Basically, are you on the server right now?
L736[14:00:20] <Izaya> yeah I'm just wondering
L737[14:00:26] <Lizzy> also isn't "tincan and string" basically Australia?
L738[14:00:28] * Lizzy hides
L739[14:00:30] <Ariri> Sorry about that.
L740[14:00:33] <Izaya> the "no route to host" reminds me of my own VDSL router
L741[14:00:37] <Ariri> Oooh Lizzy wow
L742[14:01:07] <Lizzy> i mean, it's not like Izaya has complained about aussie internet before lol
L743[14:01:25] <Izaya> Don't get me started.
L744[14:01:31] <Ariri> True
L745[14:59:12] <Ariri> Fixed it
L746[14:59:54] <Ariri> I’m just a dummy and didn’t realize it would read it’s own logs on restart and re-overload itself because i made it “feedback loop”
L747[15:00:19] <Ariri> (have pihole as dhcp and using conditional forwarding)
L748[15:00:20] <Lizzy> lol
L749[15:00:57] <Ariri> %bap Ariri
L750[15:00:57] * MichiBot baps Ariri with bag of catnip
L751[15:01:07] <Ariri> :3
L752[15:01:16] <Forecaster> hm
L753[15:01:19] * Lizzy runs off with the catnip bag
L754[15:01:30] <Forecaster> I should update bap to be in-line with pet and attack
L755[15:01:35] <Ariri> nyo das mine
L756[15:02:14] <Ariri> runs after Lizzy
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L758[15:26:36] <Inari> It's sort of amusing playing a f2p game and noticing all those psychologic tricks they try to pull to get people to buy more
L759[15:26:48] <Inari> Like having a broadcast on who just got something facny from a lootbox
L760[15:27:32] <Forecaster> yep
L761[15:33:54] <Izaya> Inari: then noticing those tricks in $100 games
L762[15:36:25] <Forecaster> those poor companies, barely making any money
L763[15:36:28] <Forecaster> [sadface]
L764[15:37:34] <Izaya> man
L765[15:37:36] <Izaya> how do they survive
L766[15:37:49] <Izaya> not making literally all the money in the world, every day
L767[15:38:23] <Forecaster> https://youtu.be/rQ54Kw7Q0cQ
L768[15:38:23] <MichiBot> ? 4 Games Changed Because Publishers Think Americans are Stupid | Fact Hunt | Larry Bundy Jr | length: 12m 30s | Likes: 76 Dislikes: 2 Views: 520 | by Larry Bundy Jr | Published On 17/11/2019
L769[15:38:41] <AmandaC> JELLY DOUGHNUTS!
L770[15:38:54] <Inari> Izaya: Sure, just feels like this game has about all of them xD
L771[15:39:04] <Izaya> is it an EA game?
L772[15:39:07] <Inari> Nope
L773[15:39:18] <Izaya> Ubisoft, then?
L774[15:39:38] <Inari> NetEase
L775[15:40:40] <simon816> >china
L776[15:40:58] <Forecaster> they've made an Uno game apparently
L777[15:41:06] <Forecaster> wonder how many microtransactions that one has
L778[15:41:08] <Izaya> simon816: better than american
L779[15:47:46] <Ariri> I see people playing the Uno game frequently (If i’m thinking of the right one) and sometimes even when someone has the cards and it’s very strange to me
L780[15:52:45] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lN7ehRI01-o i love this
L781[15:52:45] <MichiBot> Reacting to Someone 'Roasting' My Best Video | length: 27m 49s | Likes: 10,565 Dislikes: 143 Views: 173,893 | by Nick Robinson | Published On 20/3/2019
L782[16:00:06] <Inari> Izaya: Seen that talk by Torulf something or other?
L783[16:00:32] <Izaya> Maybe. About?
L784[16:00:40] <Inari> About how to make people pay in your game
L785[16:00:51] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNjI03CGkb4
L786[16:00:51] <MichiBot> Let’s go whaling: Tricks for monetising mobile game players with free-to-play | length: 19m 49s | Likes: 2,788 Dislikes: 6,435 Views: 121,276 | by PocketGamerbiz | Published On 3/10/2016
L787[16:00:53] <Inari> you'll hate him
L788[16:02:45] <Izaya> I've heard about this one.
L789[16:02:53] <Izaya> Is this the one that mentions super-whales?
L790[16:03:09] <Inari> @Forecaster hey look
L791[16:03:16] <Inari> Thats first game in that video you linked is the game I meant
L792[16:03:16] <Inari> :D
L793[16:03:54] <Inari> Like
L794[16:04:03] <Inari> The very frist video snippet in the video
L795[16:04:46] <Forecaster> I don't know what game that is
L796[16:04:51] <Inari> Cyberhunter
L797[16:05:01] <Forecaster> never heard of
L798[16:05:25] <Inari> It's some mediocre battle royale game
L799[16:05:36] <Forecaster> oh wait
L800[16:05:41] <Inari> thats chucked full of ways to try to make you pay
L801[16:05:46] <Forecaster> it's that "open world battle royale"
L802[16:05:53] <Inari> I mean
L803[16:06:02] <Inari> It's literally like every other battle royale as far as I can tell
L804[16:06:03] <Forecaster> I saw a trailer for that a couple of days ago
L805[16:06:05] <Inari> You just land on some island
L806[16:06:15] <Inari> Not sure why they advertise is as openworld
L807[16:06:43] <Forecaster> marketing
L808[16:07:35] <AdorableCatgirl> what's going on
L809[16:08:15] <AmandaC> Open world. So hot right now [popcorn nom]
L810[16:08:17] <Forecaster> marketing!
L811[16:08:34] <AdorableCatgirl> i'm trying to install linux
L812[16:08:35] <AdorableCatgirl> atm
L813[16:08:44] <Forecaster> you need more marketing
L814[16:08:50] <AmandaC> @AdorableCatgirl did you gather the right number of goats?
L815[16:08:56] <AdorableCatgirl> ? ? shut @Forecaster
L816[16:09:11] <AdorableCatgirl> AmandaC: I chose the right flash drive afaict
L817[16:09:12] <Forecaster> that's not a marketing way to talk to someone
L818[16:09:44] <AdorableCatgirl> http://tinyurl.com/uw822pj
L819[16:20:20] <Inari> @Forecaster honestly, Wipeout Xl is the better title. It says it's a bigger game, which it is, since it's bascially a trackpack
L820[16:21:11] <Forecaster> not really the point of the video but okay
L821[16:21:22] <Inari> I know
L822[16:21:28] <Inari> Just saying it would've been a better overall name
L823[16:26:16] <AdorableCatgirl> an arch package just happens to be missing
L824[16:26:17] <AdorableCatgirl> reee
L825[16:30:31] <AdorableCatgirl> why the fuck are half the packages missing
L826[16:32:14] <Forecaster> that last video, that's the one Sterling used in his videos about this
L827[16:32:18] <Forecaster> it's pretty awful
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L829[16:56:36] <Paradoxical> @AdorableCatgirl try doing `pacman -Syu` or just `pacman -Syy`
L830[16:57:05] <Paradoxical> It's most likely that you haven't gotten the latest db version and you just need to update them to find the right version of that package
L831[16:57:21] <The_Stargazer> >arch
L832[16:57:55] <The_Stargazer> at least its not Gentoo or LFS tho
L833[16:58:02] <Paradoxical> lol I used to do lfs
L834[16:58:06] <Paradoxical> I hated it
L835[16:58:14] <The_Stargazer> how does it even work?
L836[16:58:24] <Paradoxical> building everything manually
L837[16:58:34] <The_Stargazer> sounds like hell
L838[16:58:37] <Paradoxical> I mean it taught me about how Linux works but it's not a viable "distribution"
L839[16:58:38] <Paradoxical> yeah it is
L840[16:59:40] <Paradoxical> kde takes like 1000 packages total
L841[16:59:40] <Paradoxical> and I wanted to install it
L842[16:59:41] <Paradoxical> it was hell
L843[16:59:43] <Paradoxical> absolute hell
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L845[17:00:15] <Izaya> slackware is much more practical than LFS
L846[17:01:05] <Forecaster> %tonkout
L847[17:01:05] <MichiBot> Dagnabbit! Forecaster! You beat your own previous record of 2 hours, 54 minutes and 33 seconds (By 1 hour, 20 minutes and 9 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L848[17:01:06] <MichiBot> Forecaster has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.004 tonk points! plus 0.006 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 1.3802
L849[17:01:18] <AdorableCatgirl> so
L850[17:01:20] <AdorableCatgirl> my problem was
L851[17:02:24] <AdorableCatgirl> mkfs.ext4 went 1000% sped and decided to make the partition 85MB
L852[17:04:49] <BohemianHacks> @Vexatos those recipes don't work at all for modern versions. Im pretty sure they havent worked since 1.7. There is an addon mod the adds OC compatibility for gregtech CE and tries to autogenerate some recipes, but they arn't every greg techy.
L853[17:05:05] <BohemianHacks> @Vexatos those recipes don't work at all for modern versions. Im pretty sure they havent worked since 1.7. There is an addon mod that adds OC compatibility for gregtech CE and tries to autogenerate some recipes, but they arn't every greg techy. [Edited]
L854[17:05:32] <Vexatos> as far as I can tell GTCE uses the same internals as GT
L855[17:05:37] <Vexatos> if it doesn't that's not my problem :P
L856[17:05:51] <Vexatos> but your crafttweaker script suggests that it should just work
L857[17:06:00] <Vexatos> and at most involve minor tweaks, as I said
L858[17:06:14] <BohemianHacks> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/2869
L859[17:06:14] <MichiBot> Title: Add in support for GregTech Community Edition | Posted by: ScienceDrummer | Posted: Sat Jun 23 17:38:26 CDT 2018 | Status: open
L860[17:06:59] <BohemianHacks> @Vexatos based on the autogenerated recipe from the mod I mentioned it really shouldnt be too hard
L861[17:09:28] <BohemianHacks> https://paste.ofcode.org/SFzak6YVr47w4rDiTXMHhN
L862[17:11:36] <Vexatos> you're free to submit a pull request
L863[17:11:52] <BohemianHacks> Biggest issue is what @payonel touched on in that issue. I'm not sure how feature complete or stable gregtech CE is. For me I just wanted to play with it so crafttweaker is fine.
L864[17:12:12] <Vexatos> that's the problem really
L865[17:12:21] <BohemianHacks> If someone else actually wants it, I might put in the effort but its like... just me ?
L866[17:12:26] <Vexatos> I have not much trust in GTCE
L867[17:12:50] <Vexatos> but from what you showed the item system is completely identical to GT5
L868[17:13:08] <Vexatos> most of it is oredict items anyway
L869[17:13:13] <Vexatos> which are the easiest to handle
L870[17:14:20] <BohemianHacks> Im not even super familiar with gregtech. It was always that random grinding thing people memed about, but its actually pretty neat.
L871[17:14:34] <Vexatos> yea no shit >_>
L872[17:14:34] <BohemianHacks> Im super late to the whole thing though.
L873[17:15:32] <Vexatos> GTCE is based on GregTech 5 just so you know, not GregTech 6 which is new and improved™
L874[17:15:58] <BohemianHacks> Yeah, ive been reading on gt5 some because documentation is pretty much nil
L875[17:16:33] <BohemianHacks> all the gregtech versions and use in custom packs makes it ... interesting, to try to figure out
L876[17:17:04] <BohemianHacks> basically everying online is about omnifactory, but thats a whole custom progression pack with a bunch of other mods.
L877[17:17:19] <BohemianHacks> So trying to just generate power is sort of an experiment, but it makes it fun.
L878[17:29:50] <Forecaster> This is the silliest thing
L879[17:29:52] <Forecaster> https://youtu.be/iByp3UoloAM
L880[17:29:53] <MichiBot> David Hasselhoff in Moped Rider | mobile.de | length: 2m 6s | Likes: 7,565 Dislikes: 222 Views: 5,703,693 | by mobile.de | Published On 26/9/2019
L881[17:30:21] <Forecaster> (And it's obviously meant to be silly)
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L883[17:39:05] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L884[17:39:06] <MichiBot> Fudge! CompanionCube! You beat Forecaster's previous record of <0 (By 38 minutes)! I hope you're happy!
L885[17:39:07] <MichiBot> CompanionCube's new record is 38 minutes! CompanionCube also gained 0.00063 tonk points for stealing the tonk.
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L890[18:03:23] <AmandaC> payonel: has there been any big changes in Stationeers in the few months since I got you hooked then fucked off?
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L892[18:07:59] <Forecaster> They've changed and added loads of things
L893[18:51:07] <payonel> @BohemianHacks about that ticket you linked, for gregtech recipes
L894[18:51:24] <payonel> if you are a gregtech user, and an oc user, why can't you submit a better config?
L895[19:00:04] <AmandaC> payonel: It's been so long. I shouldn't have dismissed the tutorial. Day three, I've not got power even close to ready. I've had to replace two batteries.
L896[19:05:00] <AmandaC> I remember nothing from this game.
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L898[22:06:15] <Izaya> Ariri: I think your server is kill
L899[22:16:17] <BohemianHacks> @payonel for basically the reasons you said. if/when something gregtech is updated and stable I might give it a go. This is really my first gregtech anything since it was just an IC2 mod, but I hope to learn it a little more. It all depends on how long 1.12 and gregtech CE are relevant. Its a little late to worry about it now, but I'm not really up to date with current modding trends. TLDR: If someone actually wants 1.12 gregtech CE recipe
L900[22:16:17] <BohemianHacks> give it a go, otherwise ill try for the next release. maybe 1.14?
L901[22:17:12] <BohemianHacks> %tonk
L902[22:17:12] <MichiBot> Potzblitz! BohemianHacks! You beat CompanionCube's previous record of 38 minutes (By 4 hours and 5 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L903[22:17:13] <MichiBot> BohemianHacks's new record is 4 hours, 38 minutes and 6 seconds! BohemianHacks also gained 0.004 tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L904[22:38:55] <The_Stargazer> Izaya: is server still kill?
L905[22:39:40] <BohemianHacks> Looking at versions, none of the major tech mods have really updated past 1.12 from what I can see. I guess the forge rewrite and static block stuff really derailed things for a bit.
L906[23:09:10] <The_Stargazer> Izaya: I think I broke Minitel.. I sent a broadcast and it keeps getting re-sent
L907[23:18:26] <The_Stargazer> I keep getting the broadcast on Minitel02 and MinitelRelay
L908[23:21:13] <The_Stargazer> Is it because it's connected via a relay?
L909[23:21:18] <The_Stargazer> instead of wireless?
L910[23:22:32] <The_Stargazer> nope, even with wireless it happens
L911[23:24:46] <The_Stargazer> strangely, the sender (Minitel02) doesn't get the broadcast.. at all.
L912[23:24:59] <The_Stargazer> but Minitel01 and MinitelRelay repeatedly receive it
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L914[23:56:27] <Ariri> Izaya: That was totally my bad... Sorry
L915[23:57:22] <Ariri> I entered console to see if anyone was on to do a maintenance restart and i think the server froze after my command (i didnt press enter again to check it was running) and so it auto-shutdown
L916[23:58:11] <Ariri> You should @ me if it happens, I have remote access and IRC Cloud doesn't keep me connected.
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