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<Forecaster>
%tonkout
L8[01:09:36] <MichiBot> Dogast! Forecaster!
You beat CompanionCube's previous record of 9 hours, 49 minutes and
58 seconds (By 39 minutes and 37 seconds)! I hope you're
happy!
L9[01:09:37] <MichiBot> Forecaster has
stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.01 tonk
points! plus 0.009 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to
50% because stealing) Current score: 1.36897
L10[01:57:11] <MichiBot> Lizzy REMINDER:
maybe re-install computer?
L11[01:58:05]
<Ariri>
%8ball sleep now?
L12[01:58:06] <MichiBot> Ariri: [ The
Bowling ball doesn't answer ]
L13[01:58:25] <MichiBot> Ariri: "sleep
now" is for cool kids!
L14[01:58:24]
<Ariri>
%choose sleep now or later
L15[01:58:38]
<Ariri> ok
then, gn
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L17[02:52:30] <bauen1> %tonk
L18[02:52:30] <MichiBot> Jiminy Cricket!
bauen1! You beat Forecaster's previous record of <0 (By 1 hour,
42 minutes and 53 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L19[02:52:31] <MichiBot> bauen1's new
record is 1 hour, 42 minutes and 53 seconds! bauen1 also gained
0.00171 tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L21[03:03:07] <MichiBot>
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L30[05:18:46] <Myros> %tonkout
L31[05:18:46] <MichiBot> Gadsbudlikins!
Myros! You beat bauen1's previous record of 1 hour, 42 minutes and
53 seconds (By 43 minutes and 22 seconds)! I hope you're
happy!
L32[05:18:47] <MichiBot> Myros has stolen
the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.002 tonk points!
plus 0.001 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50%
because stealing) Current score: 0.0035
L33[05:39:10] <Myros> %tonk
L34[05:39:10] <MichiBot> Jeepers! Myros!
You beat your own previous record of <0 (By 20 minutes and 23
seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L35[05:39:11] <MichiBot> Myros's new record
is 20 minutes and 23 seconds! No points gained for stealing from
yourself. (Lost out on 0.00034)
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L38[06:30:58] <Myros> %tonk
L39[06:30:59] <MichiBot> Bejabbers! Myros!
You beat your own previous record of 20 minutes and 23 seconds (By
31 minutes and 24 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L40[06:31:00] <MichiBot> Myros's new record
is 51 minutes and 48 seconds! No points gained for stealing from
yourself. (Lost out on 0.00052)
L41[06:31:13] <Myros> how can a robot check
its own energie?
L42[06:31:28]
<Bob>
computer.getEnergy
L43[06:31:30]
<Bob> or
whatever that was
L44[06:31:36]
<Bob> the
robot should also have that call
L45[06:31:50] <Myros> i was given
component.robot.energy() but thats nonexistent
L46[06:33:23] <Myros> ah found it
L47[06:33:26] <Myros>
computer.energy()
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L49[06:40:10] <Lizzy> hmm
L50[06:40:44] <Lizzy> I just realised that
I can just make another subvolume on my PC's main drive and install
manjaro into that
L51[06:41:00] <Lizzy> though trying to sort
out kernel files in /boot might be a bit tricky
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L53[06:42:59] <Lizzy> hmm, okay it might be
okay cause of the way that manjaro names it's kernels
L54[06:46:19] <Lizzy> i might need to make
some space though... onlt 39gb free
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L59[07:18:56] <Izaya> Lizzy: multiple OSes
on subvolumes is <3
L60[07:21:49] <Lizzy> indeed
L61[07:21:59]
<Ocawesome101> %tonk
L62[07:21:59] <MichiBot> I'm sorry
Ocawesome101, you were not able to beat Myros's record of 51
minutes and 48 seconds this time. 51 minutes were wasted! Missed by
48 seconds!
L63[07:22:20] <Lizzy> also having /home on
it's own subvolume helps cause i can just mount that in either
one
L64[07:22:27]
<Ocawesome101> Ah, dang it
L65[07:22:30]
<Ocawesome101> Oh well
L66[07:23:32] <Lizzy> also just bought a
cpu upgrade for my home server
L67[07:23:41] <ben_mkiv> Tier 3?
L68[07:23:52] <Lizzy> no, irl server
L69[07:24:04] <ben_mkiv> ofc, that was
supposed to be funny ;_;
L70[07:24:14] <Lizzy> went from an AMD
A6-6400K to an AMD A10-6800K
L72[07:25:52] <asie> i'll make a new
oc-staging build today
L73[07:26:11] <Izaya> exciting
L74[07:26:24] <asie> it's just going to
match 1.7.5 exactly
L75[07:26:31] <asie> what i need is a full
reproduction case for the deserialization bug
L76[07:26:36] <asie> this includes the full
world save which crashes
L78[07:26:56] <Lizzy> oops, the license key
for the forums expired...
L79[07:27:32] <Lizzy> oh good i can still
get it for the renewal price
L81[07:27:49] <Vexatos> thanks for
reminding me the forum exists
L82[07:28:07] <Vexatos> Lizzy, I guess
you'll do the forum post then?
L83[07:28:31] <Lizzy> i mean, if you wanna
do it by all means go ahead. but i can do it if you don't want
to
L84[07:28:37] <Vexatos> I don't want to
D:
L85[07:28:48] <Vexatos> you're the forum
person I regularly forget it exists
L86[07:28:56] <Lizzy> llol
L87[07:29:20] <Lizzy> forums have an
update, so i'ma apply that first
L88[07:29:39] <Vexatos> Inari, I've heard
of CP spectroscopy in 3D NMR
L89[07:30:18] <Vexatos> asie, is there OC
staging thread on the forums? Maybe you'll find interested people
if you post there
L90[07:30:45] <asie> no, but i could, if
payonel doesn't mind
L91[07:31:57] <Vexatos> OC is MIT licensed
you can do whatever the heck you want, as long as it doesn't end up
in a major mod pack like a certain other large mod's unfinished
alpha release :^)
L92[07:32:13] <asie> but i've been asked to
not,say, put OC-staging on CurseForge
L93[07:32:21] <Lizzy> ARGH fucking security
questions
L94[07:32:28] <asie> i'm legally allowed to
do it but i've been asked not to
L95[07:32:28] <Vexatos> yes because
curseforge is full of idiots
L96[07:32:44] <Vexatos> the forums has
people that at least bother reading
L97[07:32:54] <Vexatos> so yea if payo is
fine
L98[07:32:58] <asie> like
L99[07:32:59] <Vexatos> with it
L100[07:33:06] <asie> i'd really love to
get Lua 5.4 and the recompiled JNLua and the many other things into
OC
L101[07:33:13] <Vexatos> yes
L102[07:33:15] <Vexatos> me too
L103[07:33:16] <asie> and the video
rendering optimization
L104[07:33:18] <asie> but payo will
probably never OK it at this rate
L105[07:33:28] <Vexatos> well he's just
started getting back into OC
L106[07:33:42] <Vexatos> like a week
ago
L108[07:33:53] <Vexatos> check the commit
history
L109[07:33:59] <asie> well as soon as my
bachelor's thesis is over (December) i'm more than willing to help
mainline my patches
L110[07:34:13] <asie> i also want to take
a long new look at funscii
L111[07:38:03] <ben_mkiv> whats the
difference of staging to original?
L113[07:38:52] <ben_mkiv> oh the holy
barcode reader got merged
L116[07:40:08] <asie> tl;dr optimized,
much more efficient rendering code; updated JNLua with fixes and
optimizations; updated LuaJ with better accuracy to Lua 5.2; and
Lua 5.4
L117[07:40:23] <asie> (though i need to
update LuaJ again, the new dev has done a LOT of fixes)
L118[07:41:01] <ben_mkiv> thanks
L119[07:41:31] <ben_mkiv> now someone just
has to port to 1.14.4 finally...
L120[07:41:43] <asie> oh, here's a fun
fact
L121[07:41:50] <asie> OpenOS uses 20KB
less RAM on 5.4 relative to 5.3, on start
L122[07:42:02] <asie> ben_mkiv: that is
not trivially happening
L123[07:42:03]
<AdorableCatgirl> w o t
L124[07:42:14] <ben_mkiv> i know, but it
has to happen
L125[07:42:27] <Vexatos> asie, is that
just -O3
L126[07:42:37] <asie> Vexatos: no, i
compared -O2 5.3 and -O2 5.4 here
L127[07:42:42] <Vexatos> huh
L128[07:42:48] <asie> this is probably the
GC changes
L129[07:42:49] <Vexatos> is 5.4 just that
much better?
L130[07:42:50] <asie> in action
L131[07:42:53] <Vexatos> oh riight
L132[07:42:56] <Vexatos> they rewrote the
GC
L133[07:43:13] <Vexatos> I forgot that
over the disgusting const syntax
L134[07:43:25] <asie> also OpenOS and all
just works on 5.4
L135[07:43:37] <asie> really, i just need
enough users to confirm they have no problems OR give reproducible
bug cases
L136[07:43:40] <asie> and we can merge
it
L137[07:43:48] <Vexatos> well yea 5.4 had
no deprecations
L138[07:43:49] <asie> Sangar has found an
Eris bug that was fixed, so have I
L139[07:43:50] <Vexatos> for once
L140[07:43:59] <asie> so they should
hopefully be gone now
L141[07:44:07] <asie> i just need payo's
OK to post this on the forums
L142[07:44:11] <Vexatos> so is this
kallisti version or?
L143[07:44:14] <asie> yes
L144[07:44:16] <Vexatos> nice
L145[07:44:19] <asie> it uses MovingBlocks
Eris/JNLua
L146[07:44:28] <asie> and my own fork of
LuaJ
L147[07:44:29] <Vexatos> payonel, ^
L148[07:44:44] <Vexatos> posting it on the
forums is the natural next step I guess
L149[07:44:57] <ben_mkiv> still didnt get
a pet renderer ;_;
L150[07:45:11] <ben_mkiv> %blame
vexatos
L151[07:45:11] *
MichiBot blames vexatos for ruptured tires
L152[07:45:32] <Vexatos> D:
L153[07:45:47] <asie> like
L154[07:45:55] <asie> if you want a Forge
1.14.4 port of OC I can probably have it done by Christmas
L155[07:46:05] <asie> but this won't solve
any systemic problems with the codebase
L156[07:46:11] <asie> Fabric 1.14.4 would
be tougher
L157[07:46:40] <ben_mkiv> i'm all for
forge, because lets be honest, even if fabric is better, forge got
more users and is probably more accepted by users
L158[07:46:45] <asie> there's one
problem
L159[07:46:47] <asie> who created
Fabric?
L160[07:47:03] <ben_mkiv> yea, which fool
was that... :P
L161[07:47:07] <asie> yeah...
L162[07:47:13] <asie> like, the thing is,
OC isn't that Forge-specific
L163[07:47:16] <asie> a huge chunk of the
code, well, isn't
L164[07:47:26] <asie> this is how we still
have 1.7.10, 1.10.2 and 1.12.2 versions with hefty
backporting
L165[07:47:48] <Myros> does this work in
lua?
L166[07:47:52] <ben_mkiv> yea, but wasn't
1.7.10 support supposed to be dropped except for critical
bugfixes?
L167[07:47:57] <Myros> local row = 0
L168[07:47:59] <ben_mkiv> so could
anything <1.12.2 imho
L169[07:48:01] <Myros> row ++
L170[07:48:11] <ben_mkiv> no, you need row
= row + 1
L171[07:48:13] <Vexatos> basically all of
li.cil.oc.server.machine is completely minecraft independent
L172[07:48:20] <Myros> thx
L173[07:48:22] <Vexatos> and that's
basically the hard part of the mod
L174[07:48:32] <Vexatos> the rest is just
grunt work
L175[07:48:39] <Vexatos> for the most
part
L176[07:48:41] <Vexatos> except for
rendering
L177[07:48:47] <asie> ben_mkiv: I'd say
1.10.2 should be dropped next
L178[07:48:57] <asie> 1.7.10 probably has
more users and maintenance going forward, if only because of
Greg
L179[07:49:03] <ben_mkiv> 1.11.2 isnt
really relevant either
L180[07:49:05] <Vexatos> ben_mkiv, yes but
1.7.10 has a substantial OC using fanbase
L181[07:49:14] <Vexatos> because 1.7.10
has the kind of people who would use OC
L182[07:49:18] <Vexatos> i.e. gregtech
pack players
L183[07:49:35] <Vexatos> just because the
other versions have more installs doesn't mean they have that many
more active users
L184[07:49:45] <ben_mkiv> but they missing
out lots of content, because 2 mods didnt get ported to 1.12.2
yet?!
L185[07:49:56] <asie> 2 mods?
L186[07:49:59] <Vexatos> and I have had a
nonzero amount of people in the past 6 months telling me how much
they appreciate that OC is still maintained on 1.7
L187[07:50:02] <ben_mkiv> kinda
L188[07:50:12] <asie> the problem is
GregTech will continue being developed on 1.7.10 at least until the
end of 2019
L189[07:50:17] <ben_mkiv> Vexatos, so
one?
L190[07:50:18] <Vexatos> yes
L191[07:50:21] <Vexatos> and gregtech is
large enough
L192[07:50:35] <Vexatos> because its
target group overlaps with OC's for a large part
L193[07:51:07] <asie> like, if OC's devs
want to do 1.7.10, more power to them
L194[07:51:17] <Vexatos> GT:NH is a mod
pack created in 2015 that is still being actively maintained (4500
commits on github, the last one five minutes ago)
L195[07:51:22] <asie> we could also
consider collaborating with cam72cam on UniversalModCore
L196[07:51:27] <asie> which handles
1.7.10, 1.10.2, 1.11.2, 1.12.2 and 1.14.4
L197[07:51:28] <Vexatos> it contains OC
and actually integrates it
L198[07:51:34] <Vexatos> it has large
active player base
L199[07:51:39] <Vexatos> multiple official
servers
L200[07:51:48] <Vexatos> that one alone is
almost worth maintaining OC for
L201[07:52:13]
<AdorableCatgirl> huh
L202[07:52:15]
<AdorableCatgirl> neat
L203[07:52:27] <Vexatos> it's a mod pack
where a server is actually meant to be played for years
L204[07:52:27] <ben_mkiv> but that could
probably all be done in 1.12.2
L205[07:52:31]
<AdorableCatgirl> i need to update my 1.7
pack anyways
L206[07:52:35] <Vexatos> because it is so
large you can not physically run out of things to do
L207[07:52:39] <Vexatos> ben_mkiv,
no
L208[07:52:45] <Izaya> >Barcode reader
upgrade
L209[07:52:46] <Izaya> neat
L210[07:52:48] <Vexatos> gregtech simply
doesn't exist on 1.12
L211[07:52:55] <asie> but yes, i'd like to
continue working on improving OC
L212[07:52:56] <ben_mkiv> there are so
many expert modpacks which could be a good base to start
integrating OC if one wants to
L213[07:53:00] <Vexatos> and that mod is
so large it is practically its own game
L214[07:53:00] <asie> getting oc-staging
tested would be great
L215[07:53:09] <asie> it's a +50%
performance boost for Lua code, Lua 5.4, and a major FPS boost for
most users
L216[07:53:19] <Vexatos> ben_mkiv, but
noone does, and nothing comes close in scale or quality to
GT:NH
L217[07:53:21] <ben_mkiv> Vexatos, what
does gregtech add what doesnt exist in 1.12.2?
L218[07:53:24] <Vexatos> it is honestly a
masterpiece of a mod
L219[07:53:28] <Vexatos> ben_mkiv,
literally all of gregtech
L220[07:53:30] <asie> ben_mkiv: an actual
tech tree
L221[07:53:32] <ben_mkiv> how many 1.12.2
expert packs did you play?
L222[07:53:33] <Vexatos> have you ever
played it
L223[07:53:38] <asie> i know what expert
packs are like
L224[07:53:39] <Vexatos> gregtech is the
only mod that does what it does
L225[07:53:43] <asie> GT:NH has a bigger
tech tree than any of them
L226[07:53:47] <asie> just out of 1.7.10
content
L227[07:53:49] <Vexatos> than most of them
combined
L228[07:53:50] <Vexatos> relaly
L229[07:53:52] <Vexatos> really*
L230[07:54:01] <Vexatos> you can get
through FTB's "expert" packs in months
L231[07:54:08]
<AdorableCatgirl> yea
L232[07:54:10] <Vexatos> GT:NH is more on
the scale of years
L233[07:54:16] <ben_mkiv> im not talking
about FTB
L234[07:54:24] <Vexatos> tell me another
mod pack that takes years to complete
L235[07:54:25] <asie> either way,
regardless of whatever, version fanboyism needs to get out of this
channel
L236[07:54:29] <Vexatos> yes
L237[07:54:30] <asie> i'm working on a
1.4.7 mod as we speak
L238[07:54:32] <asie> so shush
L239[07:54:40] <ben_mkiv> years of
playtime?
L240[07:54:40] <asie> thanks
L241[07:54:41] <Vexatos> payonel wants to
drop 1.7, but I don't, for now it staysd
L242[07:54:43] <Izaya> Vexatos: where's
the info is there a page about universalmodcore
L243[07:54:48] <Vexatos> stays*
L244[07:54:52]
<AdorableCatgirl> 1.7.10 has a few mods i
just generally want
L245[07:54:55] <asie> Izaya: not really,
it's used in IMmersive Railroading tho
L246[07:55:04] <asie> Vexatos: Is GT:NH
adding Immersive Railroading by the way?
L247[07:55:05] <Izaya> sorry that was
unnecessary pushy I started writing one thing and forgot and wrote
another with the same meaning
L248[07:55:07] <Vexatos> 1.7 also has the
last good version of thaumcraft
L249[07:55:07] <asie> I am genuinely
curious
L250[07:55:17] <Vexatos> that is another
good reason to stay on it
L251[07:55:18] <asie> Vexatos: there's an
unofficial Thaumcraft 4 fork on 4chan
L252[07:55:27] <ben_mkiv> Vexatos, yea
thats one thing i could agree with
L253[07:55:32] <asie> and Thaumic Horizons
too, or whatever it was called
L254[07:55:34] <asie> I've long hoped to
get the devs of it involved in a legal approach to the same
thing
L255[07:55:41] <Izaya> I agree, b1.7 is
the best version of Minecraft :^)
L256[07:55:47]
<AdorableCatgirl> kek
L257[07:55:54] <ben_mkiv> asie, how is
there a fork if its closed source?
L259[07:55:56] <Izaya> oh you said
thaumcraft
L260[07:56:00] <Izaya> apologies I just
woke up
L261[07:56:06] <asie> ben_mkiv: it's
4chan
L262[07:56:16] <asie> you decompile the
mod, patch it, and post it anonymously so you can't get easily
DMCA'd
L263[07:56:18] <asie> it's that easy
L264[07:56:19] <ben_mkiv> so they
deobfuscated and ported it?
L265[07:56:20]
<AdorableCatgirl> decompile ez
L266[07:56:21] <asie> yes lol
L267[07:56:25] <asie> not ported tho
L268[07:56:27] <asie> it's still on
1.7.10
L269[07:56:28] <Vexatos> asie, it has
railcraft but no IR
L270[07:56:37] <ben_mkiv> nvm ;(
L271[07:56:49] <Izaya> which version of
thaumcraft was on like, release 1.0 or 1.1
L272[07:56:53] <Izaya> was that 2 or 3 or
something?
L273[07:56:56] <asie> that would be
thaumcraft 1 i think
L274[07:57:02] <ben_mkiv> well Vexatos...
go play Enigmatica2Expert if you want a good 1.12.2 expert
pack
L275[07:57:11] <asie> also y'all should
play All Of Fabric :^)
L276[07:57:18] <Vexatos> but yea ben_mkiv
GT:NH is basically one of the top 3 mod packs ever made and
probably #1 in terms of pure philosophy, that alone makes me want
to keep supporting it.
L277[07:57:29] <Vexatos> ben_mkiv, I don't
want a good 1.12 expert pack they all are dwarved by this
L278[07:57:45] <Izaya> last time I played
with thaumcraft properly was 1.0 or 1.1 whoops
L279[07:57:49] <Vexatos> Tell me another
mod pack that is still being actively developed and improved after
four years
L280[07:58:01] <Vexatos> with the devs
listening to the community actively on all issues
L281[07:58:11] <Vexatos> and also
listening to the mod devs
L282[07:58:34] <ben_mkiv> well in e2e you
have to use EVERY mod to progress
L283[07:58:52] <Vexatos> because the pack
includes one of my own mods, Tinkers' Gregworks, and I have
certain, uh, philosophies about that one, and the main dev actually
listened to them and integrated the mod in a way that I can agree
with
L284[07:58:57] <ben_mkiv> dont tell me
that this is like any ftb expert stuff that someone threw together
on a weekend
L285[07:59:11] <Vexatos> (it is the only
mod pack using that mod)
L286[07:59:47] <Vexatos> ben_mkiv, GT:NH
did that four years ago
L287[07:59:49] <Vexatos> and still does it
today
L288[07:59:54] <Vexatos> that's my
point
L289[07:59:59] <Vexatos> it is _the single
best_ hardcore pack
L290[08:00:05] <Vexatos> of all the ones I
know
L291[08:00:09] <Vexatos> it does
everything right
L292[08:00:11] <ben_mkiv> so it does the
same
L293[08:00:13] <ben_mkiv> but for
1.7.10
L294[08:00:15] <ben_mkiv> xD
L295[08:00:32] <Vexatos> and with
gregtech
L296[08:00:37] <ben_mkiv> yea i got
it
L297[08:01:20] <Vexatos> stop hating on
1.7.10
L298[08:01:30] <ben_mkiv> stop hating on
1.12.2
L299[08:01:40] <Vexatos> 1.12.2 adds less
to 1.7.10 than gregtech does
L300[08:01:40] <asie> Vexatos has not once
hated on 1.12.2
L301[08:01:42] <ben_mkiv> like they
couldnt do what was possible on a 5 years old mc version
L302[08:01:46] <Vexatos> that is just a
fact
L303[08:01:51] <asie> everything is
possible on a 5 years old mc version if you try hard enough
L304[08:01:54] <Vexatos> so if you go with
the "new stuff" argument
L305[08:01:55] <asie> factorization's
chunk shenanigans were 1.7.10
L306[08:01:57] <Vexatos> you lose
L307[08:02:17] <Vexatos> I don't hate on
1.12
L308[08:02:27] <Vexatos> It's just wrong
to say it's better
L309[08:02:48] <ben_mkiv> i'm just saying
that it provides more content
L310[08:02:51] <Vexatos> the fact of the
matter is that gregtech alone makes 1.7 the currently best version
for hardcore players, and that is a target group that OC very much
works for
L311[08:03:03] <Vexatos> ben_mkiv, it
provides less content than 1.7+gregtech that is my point
L312[08:03:13] <asie> GregTech is a
massive mod, it really is
L313[08:03:16] <ben_mkiv> can't tell about
the grind, as i've never played GT and you've never played e2e or
an ATM expert pack
L314[08:03:17] <Vexatos> gregtech has
dungeons you know
L315[08:03:20] <Vexatos> world gen
L316[08:03:24] <ben_mkiv> grind !=
content
L317[08:03:30] <Vexatos> gregtech 4 was
grind
L318[08:03:34] <Vexatos> gregtech 5 is
almost no grind
L319[08:03:43] <Vexatos> gregtech 6 is
something else entirely
L320[08:03:46] <asie> i'd like to make a
GT6-heavy 1.12.2 modpack
L321[08:03:56] <Vexatos> yea noone has
attempted that yet
L322[08:03:57] <asie> at some point
L323[08:03:58] <Vexatos> other than
bear
L324[08:04:03] <Vexatos> but bear's is
just his own
L325[08:04:05] <Izaya> I remember playing
GT4
L326[08:04:07] <Izaya> that was fun
L327[08:04:10] <Izaya> in a painful sort
of way
L328[08:04:17] <Vexatos> ben_mkiv, if you
never played GT5 you don't know what you are talking about
L329[08:04:30] <asie> and if you've never
played E2E neither do you, Vexatos
L330[08:04:38] <asie> you should both play
each other's experience to find out
L331[08:04:41] <Vexatos> the whole
philosophy of GT5 is that the game is hard, and your goal as the
master of automation is to automate the grind away
L332[08:04:46] <asie> but Vexatos will
scream no time and ben_mkiv will scream >1.7
L333[08:04:46]
<AdorableCatgirl> both r bad ez
L334[08:04:50] <Vexatos> it's basically
factorio
L335[08:04:51] <Vexatos> but 3D
L336[08:05:34] <Vexatos> if you like
factorio you'll likely enjoy gregtech
L337[08:05:54] <Vexatos> GT:NH just turns
the dial up to 500
L338[08:05:59] <Vexatos> by making _every_
mod like that
L339[08:06:19] <asie> so does every modern
expert modpack tho
L340[08:06:34] <Vexatos> except modern
expert packs tend to have one single linear path to the
finish
L341[08:06:42] <asie> haha what?
L342[08:06:51] <asie> modern does not mean
2015
L343[08:07:22] <Vexatos> I mean I watch
expert pack twitch streams, most of them look the same
L344[08:07:32] <Vexatos> the early game is
interesting and different usually
L345[08:07:40] <Vexatos> but the late game
is just all craft things in grindy ways
L346[08:08:01] <Vexatos> there was one
pack from uh like 1 year ago that I forgot the name of
L347[08:08:05] <Vexatos> that was pretty
cool
L348[08:09:39] <Vexatos> But I am also a
big tech mod fan and, well, 1.12 isn't really into the difficult
tech mod thing, maybe I am just biased towards gregtech
L349[08:10:10] <Vexatos> but TL;DR as long
as I can convince payo to keep 1.7 alive it'll stay alive :P
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L352[08:12:49] <ben_mkiv> nice
L353[08:13:16] <Vexatos> asie, not sure
how fast one can drop 1.10 it has a very large number of mod
packs
L354[08:13:42] <Vexatos> I wish we could
somehow gauge the number of actually active OC users
L355[08:13:46] <Vexatos> on each
version
L356[08:14:08] <ben_mkiv> look at addon
downloads?
L357[08:14:15] <Vexatos> download counts
are stupid
L358[08:14:20] <Vexatos> Because kitchen
sink packs exist
L359[08:14:31] <asie> Vexatos: the problem
is a lot of 1.10 modpacks are not being updated
L360[08:14:34] <Vexatos> and since CC is
dead they just all throw OC into it, blowing up the 1.12 download
numbers
L361[08:14:37] <Vexatos> for addons
too
L362[08:14:43] <Izaya> kitchen sink packs
are my favourite
L363[08:14:44] <asie> so even if you
update OC people won't get it
L364[08:14:52] <Vexatos> asie, probably
correct
L365[08:15:00] <asie> also CC:Tweaked
isn't dead and if we don't hurry up it may well take over
1.14
L366[08:15:06] <asie> it's not dead on
Forge anyway
L367[08:15:08] <ben_mkiv> yea, but they
less likely have that many modpack dependents
L368[08:15:19] <Vexatos> releasing a new
OC version roughly twice a year gives interesting download count
statistics at least
L369[08:15:46] <Vexatos> asie, CC:T is the
scary unofficial fork oh no I will not include it in my mod pack it
may contain viruses!!!!11
L370[08:16:01] <asie> blah
L371[08:16:03] <asie> give it time
L372[08:16:03] <ben_mkiv> asie, yea also
thought of adding CC support, and maybe adding back OC support in
2025 xD
L373[08:16:06] <ben_mkiv> when its
ported
L375[08:21:23] <Vexatos> I am still
surprised everytime I see someone actually using OC
L376[08:24:01] <Vexatos> asie, is there a
PR for the Lua update yet?
L378[08:24:23] <Vexatos> only the render
upgrade
L379[08:24:28] <asie> i'm waiting with
that until Lua 5.4.0 stabilizes
L380[08:24:32] <asie> and OC-staging gets
more testing done
L381[08:24:33] <Vexatos> yea
L382[08:24:35] <Vexatos> that should be,
like
L383[08:24:37] <asie> I think that will be
a good point i ntime to do it
L384[08:24:39] <Vexatos> any moment now
basically
L385[08:24:49] <asie> and testing is
important!
L386[08:24:51] <asie> porting Eris was a
bit painful
L387[08:24:55] <asie> so we need tests,
lots of tests
L388[08:24:56] <Vexatos> especially with a
fundamental change
L389[08:25:11] <Myros> Lua says here is a
"then" missing... hod can i fix that? if
computer.energy() > 10000 then return true end
L390[08:25:12] <Vexatos> like switching to
a new eris fork and a new Lua version and a new rendering engine
basically
L391[08:25:15] <asie> there's also this
one dev working on persisting hook-yielded coroutines
L392[08:25:56] <asie> which would allow
some amazing stuff
L393[08:26:06] <ben_mkiv> if
computer.energy() > 10000 then return true; end
L394[08:26:09] <ben_mkiv> if its a
oneliner
L395[08:26:32] <Vexatos> no
L396[08:26:52] <Vexatos> lua does not need
any semicolons
L397[08:26:57] <Vexatos> they are 100%
optional
L398[08:26:57] <ben_mkiv> then try
it
L399[08:27:03] <ben_mkiv> %lua if true
then return false end
L400[08:27:03] <MichiBot> false
L401[08:27:08] <Vexatos> %lua if not a
then return true end
L402[08:27:08] <MichiBot> true
L403[08:27:19] <ben_mkiv> well, in OC it
didnt work for me
L404[08:27:25] <asie> if so, then that's a
bug
L405[08:27:46] <ben_mkiv> let me startup
mc
L406[08:28:54] <Vexatos> you can write any
lua program in a single line without using semicolons
L407[08:29:12] <Vexatos> newlines are also
purely optional
L408[08:29:49] *
Izaya laughs in minifier
L409[08:29:54] <Vexatos> yup
L410[08:30:11] <ben_mkiv> huh, it
works
L411[08:30:16] <ben_mkiv> im pretty sure
that it was an issue at some point
L412[08:31:23] <fingercomp> Vexatos: they
are optional most of the time, but sometimes they are not
L413[08:32:25] <ben_mkiv> ah, its a
problem when you call a function in the return statement
L414[08:32:34] <Vexatos> fingercomp,
example?
L415[08:32:40] <ben_mkiv> %lua function
foo() return false end if true then return foo() end
L416[08:32:40] <MichiBot> false
L417[08:33:08] <fingercomp> Vexatos:
(function(x) return x^2 end)(4);(function(x) return x end)(4)
L418[08:33:50] <Vexatos> you might be
right
L419[08:35:49]
<Forecaster>
everyone knows might makes right
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L424[09:12:40]
<AdorableCatgirl> ei
L425[09:12:42]
<AdorableCatgirl> ia
L426[09:17:43] <Myros> can someone explain
what "attemt to call nil value (global "status")
" means?
L427[09:18:24]
<AdorableCatgirl> status is undefined
L428[09:19:37] <Myros> i have a local
function Status() , what does he need more?
L429[09:19:52]
<AdorableCatgirl> case sensitive
L430[09:19:58] <ben_mkiv> did you define
it after your call?
L431[09:20:03]
<AdorableCatgirl> it needs to be
visible
L433[09:20:53] <Myros> it was defined
before the call
L434[09:21:07] <ben_mkiv> define it before
Maintenance()
L435[09:22:02] <Myros> ah i think i get
it, even if i dont call it, if i use it in another function i still
has to be on top, right?
L436[09:22:19] <ben_mkiv> somehow
yes
L437[09:24:21] <Myros> is this normal for
other languages like python?
L438[09:24:50] <ben_mkiv> no
L439[09:24:59] <ben_mkiv> maybe there are
some, but im not aware of any
L440[09:27:04] <AmandaC> you can also have
`locaal <function-name>` at the top aand define them
whenever, ,as long as they're not getting called before they're
defined
L442[09:28:34]
<Bob> you
can't change the size of text in OC
L443[09:28:38]
<Svemat>
oh
L444[09:28:39]
<Bob> since
you have cells and not pixels
L445[09:28:46]
<Bob> you
can change the resolution
L446[09:28:52]
<Bob> and
make less pixels fit on a screen
L447[09:29:01]
<Bob> but
not have big and small text at once
L448[09:29:06]
<Svemat>
well shit then
L449[09:29:53] <Myros> ok i am a point
further, i have not a "attempt to perform arithmetic on a nil
value (global "row")" what does this mean?
L450[09:29:58] <Izaya> there's an API for
big text
L451[09:30:08] <Izaya> Myros: you tried to
do maths on a variable that was nil
L452[09:30:23] <AmandaC> You tried to math
row before you assigned to row
L453[09:30:46] <Myros> i definded row at
the start
L454[09:30:48] <Myros> local row = 0
L455[09:31:49] <Myros> i call CheckStart()
and this includes every variable
L456[09:31:52]
<Bob> it
says you didn't
L457[09:32:25] <AmandaC> IT's local to
CheckStart, no the file
L458[09:33:04] <Myros> ok so i should set
these to global?
L459[09:33:17] <AmandaC> or define them
outside checkstart and assign them in it
L460[09:34:10] <Izaya> scope is
important
L461[09:35:14] <Myros> thank you, now it
moves the first time
L462[09:36:25]
<Bob> yea
locals are only defined in their scope and subscopes
L463[09:36:35]
<Bob> in
your case inside the function
L464[09:37:32]
<Svemat>
does redstone io block reset on server restart and when the
computer turns off?
L465[09:45:16]
<Forecaster>
yes
L466[09:46:32]
<Forecaster>
or do you mean when the minecraft server restarts?
L467[09:46:34]
<Forecaster>
if so no
L468[09:49:30]
<Svemat>
okay, but there is no way to make text bigger beacuse i need to
stand right up to my screen to be able to read
L470[09:50:14]
<Forecaster>
change the resolution
L471[09:50:25]
<Svemat>
how?
L472[09:50:51]
<Forecaster>
`resolution <height> <width>`
L473[09:51:02]
<Forecaster>
or maybe it's the other way around
L475[09:51:40] <Myros> ok now i have a
problem. if the script works or not depends if i tiped in
term.clear() in the lua prompt
L476[09:51:48] <Myros> %tonk
L477[09:51:49] <MichiBot> Potzblitz!
Myros! You beat your own previous record of 51 minutes and 48
seconds (By 1 hour and 38 minutes)! I hope you're happy!
L478[09:51:50] <MichiBot> Myros's new
record is 2 hours, 29 minutes and 49 seconds! No points gained for
stealing from yourself. (Lost out on 0.00163)
L479[09:52:21] <Myros> if i didnt typed
that he gets a nil error
L480[09:56:54] <Myros> i think thats a
bug
L481[09:57:18]
<Forecaster>
what nil error
L482[10:00:30]
<Bob> there
are no bugs in OC, only in the scripts
L483[10:00:31]
<Bob>
¯\(ツ)/¯
L484[10:01:06] <Myros> "attempt to
index a nil value (global "term")"
L485[10:01:26] <Myros> if i open a lua
prompt and type term.clear()
L486[10:01:30]
<Forecaster>
you are not requiring term in your script
L487[10:01:31] <Myros> it works the next
time
L488[10:01:50]
<Bob> term
isn't defined
L489[10:01:52]
<Bob> you
need to require it
L490[10:02:38] <Myros> thx, but should
that work if i promt that from hand?
L491[10:02:52] <Myros> since the script
still dont requilre term
L492[10:02:56] <AmandaC> I think what
Myros is a bug.
L493[10:03:02] <AmandaC> s/is /is
saying/
L494[10:03:03] <MichiBot> <AmandaC>
I think what Myros is sayinga bug.
L495[10:03:28]
<Forecaster>
%stab the bug
L496[10:03:29] <MichiBot> Forecaster is
stabbing the bug with a Shiny 1x Compressed Sentence! (10%) for 1d6
= 2 damage!
L497[10:03:31] <AmandaC> unless they did
something weird with the environment (defined a new `term` API) it
should work without the require in the lua REPL
L498[10:03:57] <Myros> it does work
without require in lua REPL
L499[10:04:09]
<Bob>
because the OpenOS REPL has preload
L500[10:04:12] <Myros> and if i did that
it even works in a script without require
L501[10:04:13]
<Bob> and
preloads packages
L502[10:04:22]
<Bob> your
scritps aren't being ran in the REPL
L503[10:04:36]
<Bob> OpenOs
just adds a layer of sugar in the REPL
L504[10:04:42]
<Bob> that
you don't have in your scripts
L505[10:05:01] <Myros> but something in
lua REPL is changed, that my script them works without
require
L506[10:05:13]
<Forecaster>
just require term in your script
L507[10:05:16]
<Bob> i said
it preloads the llibraries
L509[10:05:23]
<Bob> just
require it already in your script as a local
L510[10:05:27]
<Bob> and
the problem will be sloved
L511[10:05:38] <Myros> i've done that xD
thx
L512[10:05:48] <AmandaC> in a script you
need to require, the REPL does it automatically for you for ease of
use.
L513[10:08:16]
<Forecaster>
Amanda I think you missed the actual point, but it's irrelevant
because they should just require term in the script so it's a
non-issue
L514[10:08:34] <AmandaC> Seems so.
L515[10:08:40] *
AmandaC goes back to halucinating fantastical stories
L516[10:09:27]
<AdorableCatgirl> tsuki's os.deadline
should be nice for big lööps
L517[10:15:05]
<Forecaster>
%sip
L518[10:15:06] <MichiBot> You drink a
cloudy black potion (New!). Once empty the potion bottle fills with
a different potion.
L519[10:15:13]
<Forecaster>
%sip
L520[10:15:13] <MichiBot> You drink a
viscous moonstone potion (New!). Forecaster feels a sudden surge of
static electricity.
L521[10:15:18]
<Forecaster>
ack
L522[10:28:12] <Inari> @Forecaster:
syn
L523[10:30:43] <Myros> i have the sidesapi
in my requirements but robot.detect(bottom) detects stuff in front
of him, not on his bottom
L524[10:31:45] <Inari> Try sides.bottom?
:D
L525[10:31:52] <Inari> No clue
L526[10:31:56]
<Bob> isn't
there a down and up function for every robot function
L527[10:32:01]
<Bob> ie
detectDown maybe
L528[10:32:03] <Inari> Oh, right
L529[10:32:11] *
Inari hasn't actually used OC in ages
L530[10:32:20]
<Bob>
^
L531[10:32:44] <Inari> %pet the inactive
AmandaC
L532[10:32:44] <MichiBot> Inari is
brushing the inactive AmandaC with spiky collar. the inactive
AmandaC regains 1d4 = 3 hit points!
L533[10:33:05]
<Bob> for no
reason i've lost intrest in MC and coding once again
L534[10:33:24] <Inari> I do coding. And I
do MC at times. But just a modpack (sevtech ages) or Vanilla
L535[10:34:10]
<Bob> i
still didn't finish my node editor or port WFC SimpleTiled to
Lua
L536[10:36:20] *
AmandaC meows at Inari for disrupting her
halucinations
L537[10:36:27] <Inari> Ohi
L538[10:37:45]
<Forecaster>
Inari: noping
L539[10:37:46]
<Forecaster>
also what
L540[10:43:22]
<Pix Vectri>
Is this thing on?
L541[10:43:38]
<Forecaster>
no
L542[10:43:44]
<Forecaster>
try hitting it
L543[10:43:46]
<Pix Vectri>
Figures. ?
L544[10:58:34]
<Ariri>
Izaya: I’ll come by and check out your system, looks
interesting
L545[10:58:34]
<Ariri> I
haven’t been on much because i’m pretty ill for no reason
L546[11:04:22] <Myros> my farmer seems to
work, but sometimes he pretends a sapling is a tree and destroys
them (he compares it to his sapling in his 2. slot) but most of the
time it seem to work
L547[11:08:18] <Inari> @Ariri On where?
:o
L548[11:08:22] <Inari> @Forecaster
TCP
L549[11:08:58]
<Ariri>
Inari: Direwolf20 1.12.2 server with some additional mods
L550[11:09:12] <Inari> public?
L551[11:09:24]
<Ariri>
Private, I’m hosting it
L552[11:09:37] <Inari> I see
L553[11:09:46]
<Forecaster>
Inari what
L554[11:09:49] <Inari> How private?
:o
L555[11:09:55] <Inari> @Forecaster you
ack'ed so I syn'ed
L556[11:09:59]
<Ariri>
You’re welcome to join
L557[11:10:07] <Inari> :3
L558[11:10:10]
<Forecaster>
I don't know what that means
L559[11:10:12]
<Ariri>
^~^
L560[11:10:20] <Inari> @Forecaster TCP
uses syn and ack commands D:
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L562[11:11:33]
<Ariri> Sent
it to you
L563[11:15:18] <Izaya> Ariri: I'm yet to
set up automation using it
L564[11:16:07] <Izaya> but I've been
planning that a bit, gonna use another computer with a transposer,
or maybe the same one
L565[11:16:52] <Ariri> :0
L566[11:18:23] <Ariri> Anyone else want to
join the server :3
L567[11:18:42] <Izaya> half inclined to
set up a dedicated computer to control it over the network
L568[11:19:07] <Ariri> That’d be
cool
L569[11:20:12] <Izaya> I have the whole
RPC thing so I could expose the transposer component
L570[11:22:41] <Ariri> I’ve been getting
automation started but it’s slow going, only half my brain was
working yesterday
L571[11:24:43] <Ariri> I think i’ll just
go for a Big Reactor controlled by a Computer which I’ll hook up to
your network and figure out how to activate/raise the fuel rods
when someone needs power
L572[11:24:53] <Ariri> despite not knowing
much lua
L573[11:25:02] <Izaya> I'm gonna abuse
EnderIO item conduits
L574[11:25:24] <Izaya> so I can apply
arbitrary operations to items in the system
L575[11:25:47] <Ariri> aboose
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L577[11:28:36] <stephan48> welcome to
IRC(or the Dark Side!) Ariri !
L578[11:28:45] <stephan48> s/ !/!/
L579[11:28:47] <MichiBot>
<stephan48> welcome to IRC(or the Dark Side!) Ariri!
L580[11:29:33] <Myros> @Ariri i would love
to join
L581[11:29:51] <Inari> s/dark/lewd/
L582[11:29:57] <Ariri> Thanks stephan48
!
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L584[11:30:19] <Ariri> Myros: I’ll PM you
the info :)
L585[11:30:31] <Izaya> You know what I
should do? I should set up an RPC server for OpenOS to export the
internet card
L586[11:31:24] <Ariri> Inari: heh
L587[11:38:24]
<AdorableCatgirl> Ariri: @Ariri when are we
getting OSSM :^P
L588[11:40:17]
<Ariri>
OSSM?
L589[11:47:45]
<AdorableCatgirl> opensolidstate
L590[11:48:26]
<AdorableCatgirl> tho i guess i should get
1.1 out first
L591[11:49:08]
<Ariri> Oh
:P
L592[11:49:12]
<AdorableCatgirl> i should warn
L593[11:49:15]
<AdorableCatgirl> if you do add it
L594[11:49:18]
<AdorableCatgirl> you also need
forgelin
L595[11:49:22]
<AdorableCatgirl> :P
L596[11:49:42]
<Ariri> If
that’s a mod you want then I’ll add them both
L597[11:50:01]
<AdorableCatgirl> ye, me and izaya would
~~ab~~use it
L598[11:50:35]
<AdorableCatgirl> them 128k EEPROM
cards
L599[11:50:46] <Izaya> PCI-X SSDs
L600[11:50:50]
<AdorableCatgirl> Izaya: psychos on uC
again
L601[11:51:01] <Izaya> yee
L602[11:51:02]
<AdorableCatgirl> also
L603[11:51:07] <Izaya> big farms of
compute servers
L604[11:51:13]
<AdorableCatgirl> i
need to make
compute cards
L605[11:51:37]
<AdorableCatgirl> so we can finally have
encrypted network cards and RAID cards and shit
L606[11:51:47]
<AdorableCatgirl> also i had a big brain
idea for an OC arch
L607[11:51:51]
<Ariri> I’ll
add it in a bit as we’ve added a lot of mods and don’t want to
annoy people it’ll be put in with other mods ppl are likely to
request
L608[11:52:03]
<AdorableCatgirl> ye
L609[11:52:15] <Lizzy> I like how earlier
i said i was gonna re-install my pc yet here i am 6 hours into a
factorio session
L610[11:53:58]
<AdorableCatgirl> OSSM is pretty small
atm
L611[11:54:17] <AmandaC> Lizzy: it's okay,
you can stop any timme you want to, right? :P
L613[11:54:41] <Lizzy> yeah... just need
to do this one last thing
L614[11:54:42]
<AdorableCatgirl> and forgelin will make it
so if i make anymore mods ~~at izaya's request~~, i won't want to
commit liven't
L615[11:54:44] <Lizzy> :P
L616[11:55:02]
<AdorableCatgirl> wut
L617[11:55:05] <Izaya> Given there's ICBM
now, two layers of skystone above the storage system.
L618[11:55:06] *
AmandaC giggles
L619[11:55:17]
<AdorableCatgirl> i'll try to get on in a
bit
L620[11:55:19] <Izaya> AdorableCatgirl:
Hey! That was only once. Twice.
L621[11:55:33]
<AdorableCatgirl> first i gotta swap an HDD
out in my desktop
L622[11:55:40]
<AdorableCatgirl> so i can reinstall
arch
L623[11:55:41] <Izaya> Maybe 3 if you
count separate requests.
L624[11:55:45]
<AdorableCatgirl> using btrfs
L625[11:55:49]
<AdorableCatgirl> this time
L626[11:56:26]
<AdorableCatgirl> actually i might
repartition my SSD
L627[11:58:09]
<AdorableCatgirl> actually lemme see how
expensive a small SSD would be
L628[11:58:24]
<Ariri>
Izaya: There’s no danger unless you agree to fight someone
L629[11:58:25]
<AdorableCatgirl> because i'd totally make
a hybrid setup for my desktop's linux install
L630[11:58:38] <Izaya> Ariri: no fun in
not being paranoid
L631[11:58:39]
<AdorableCatgirl> shit
L632[11:58:47]
<AdorableCatgirl> i gotta finish that
server for my friend
L633[11:59:01] <Lizzy> hmm, i wonder if my
laptop would be able to run this save decently...
L635[11:59:24]
<Ariri>
True
L636[11:59:34] <Izaya> AdorableCatgirl: I
added a music bot to the mumble server btw
L637[11:59:51] <Izaya> it can stream
lainchan radio
L638[12:01:49] <Lizzy> hmm, okay
aparrently manjaro on my laptop is missing some video libs for 32
bit... oh well
L639[12:01:55] <Lizzy> oh
L640[12:02:01] <Lizzy> nvm it can't load
without them
L641[12:02:04] <Lizzy> yay
L642[12:03:00] <AmandaC> Lizzy:
libva.so.2?
L643[12:03:23] <AmandaC> I had something
liek that happen recently too, NixOS updated the package recently
to fix it
L644[12:03:30] <Lizzy> yeah, and also
libva-x11.so.2
L645[12:03:32] <Lizzy> hmm
L646[12:03:52] <AmandaC> Will have to
either install them manually, or waitfor the pkgbuild to be
updated
L647[12:05:16] <Lizzy> lemme reboot my
laptop, i did update packages on it and haven't restarted yet
L648[12:06:26] <Lizzy> nvm, still has
issues...
L649[12:06:30] <Lizzy> i'll google in a
bit
L650[12:23:32]
<AdorableCatgirl> oh yeah
L651[12:23:33]
<AdorableCatgirl> SSD time
L653[12:24:10] <MichiBot>
ABBA - Mamma
Mia on FLOPPOTRON | length:
3m 34s | Likes:
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Paweł
Zadrożniak | Published On 17/11/2019
L654[12:24:20] <Izaya> I should get myself
an M.2 SATA SSD
L655[12:36:09] <Izaya> I can get a 120GB
WD Green for $29
L656[12:46:17]
<Forecaster>
%sip
L657[12:46:17] <MichiBot> You drink a
fluffy gold potion (New!). Everything Forecaster says is now in
Comic Sans until they see a bird.
L658[12:46:17] <ben_mkiv> lately noticed
that there are PCIex cards that allows you to attach M2 SSDs to
mobos without m2 connector
L659[12:46:22]
<Forecaster>
%tonk blindly
L660[12:46:22] <MichiBot> Gadsbudlikins!
Forecaster! You beat Myros's previous record of 2 hours, 29 minutes
and 49 seconds (By 24 minutes and 44 seconds)! I hope you're
happy!
L661[12:46:23] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new
record is 2 hours, 54 minutes and 33 seconds! Forecaster also
gained 0.00123 (0.00041 x 3) tonk points for stealing the
tonk.
L662[12:47:45] <Izaya> Ariri: I set up a
magma crucible at the forge, not sure if you still want to provide
with your ender tank or not, but I'm gonna be melting all the
granite and other garbage
L663[12:48:52] <Ariri> Ah i’ll leave it
for now and if i need i’ll take it
L664[12:49:14] <Ariri> My pihole is not
working now grr
L665[13:01:56] <Inari> Oh my
L666[13:04:46] <AmandaC> %bap Inari
L667[13:04:46] *
MichiBot baps Inari with Murder Present
L668[13:09:11] <Inari> AmandaC: Hm?
L669[13:10:26]
<Ariri> To
change the DNS server on Raspbian id go to dhcpcd.conf right?
L670[13:12:19] <Izaya> or
/etc/resolvconf.conf or similar
L672[13:13:35]
<Ariri> this
is the only thing uncommented so i dont think its affecting
it
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L674[13:14:21] <bauen1> @Ariri to change
the DNS server used for lookups, edit /etc/resolv.conf
L675[13:14:51] <bauen1> unless that points
to 127.0.0.1 in that case you need to edit your local dns servers
config
L676[13:15:34]
<Ariri>
That's blank for me
L677[13:15:38]
<Ariri>
Izaya's worked
L678[13:15:50]
<Ariri> But
still no resolution, will try reboot
L679[13:15:53] <Izaya> then you need to
run uh
L680[13:15:58] <Izaya> I think the tool is
called resolvconf
L681[13:16:00] <Izaya> but I'm not
100%
L682[13:16:11] *
Izaya doesn't use it, static resolv.conf
L683[13:17:00] <AmandaC> It's likely a
systemd unit you should restart, resolvconf is meant for stuff
where it's not likely to be completely logical to always connect to
the same dns servers. Work firewalls / VPNs and such, so desktop
linux
L684[13:17:25] <AmandaC> `systemctl
restart resolvconf.service`
L685[13:18:10]
<Ariri> I
tried both resolvconf and the systemctl restart
L686[13:18:19]
<Ariri>
trying a reboot anyways
L687[13:18:36]
<Ariri> (It
didn't resolve)
L688[13:19:51]
<Ariri>
:(
L689[13:22:45] <bauen1> @Ariri if you have
openresolv / resolvconf installed, 'sudo resolvconf -u' should do
the trick (and possibly editing /etc/resolvconf.conf)
L690[13:23:27]
<Ariri> I
dont have those installed, not to my memory, and that command
doesnt exist
L691[13:23:41] <AmandaC> in that case you
just edit resolv.conf
L692[13:25:01]
<Ariri> No
such file when saving it
L693[13:25:03]
<Ariri>
strange
L694[13:25:17] <AmandaC>
`/etc/resolv.conf`?
L695[13:26:00]
<Ariri>
Yup
L697[13:28:17] <Lizzy> you seem to be
missing the initial /
L698[13:29:18]
<Ariri> oh
just read this
L700[13:29:47] <Lizzy> yeah, but it still
looks like you were missing the initial / from the path
L701[13:29:56] <Lizzy> according to the
output that nano gave
L702[13:30:07]
<Ariri>
Ah
L703[13:30:13]
<Ariri>
Missed that
L704[13:30:28]
<Ariri> Wow
thanks
L705[13:30:53]
<Ariri>
Everyone else was right then
L706[13:31:21] <Lizzy> also, I think
Pihole has it's own config for setting the upstream server it uses
IIRC
L707[13:32:00] *
Lizzy hmms, needs to reset her password for her pihole
L708[13:32:13]
<Ariri> It
does but I set it to go to localhost (for Cloudflared DNS over
HTTPS) and I updated it so it failed after awhile
L709[13:32:19]
<Ariri>
pihole -p
L710[13:32:33]
<Ariri> -a
-p
L711[13:33:04]
<Ariri>
eureka!
L712[13:33:12] <Lizzy> wait, it's not
pihole i have
L713[13:33:13] <Lizzy> derp
L714[13:33:22] <Lizzy> i have AdGuard home
running on my pi
L715[13:33:37]
<Ariri>
Ah
L716[13:33:40] <Lizzy> so ignore my
comment about having a config area for the servers it uses
lol
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L719[13:34:15]
<Ariri> It
does I think, unless Im thinking about it wrong
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L722[13:35:47] <Lizzy> oh... that's my
pass for it... okay then
L723[13:37:53] <AmandaC> *******?
L724[13:38:10] <Lizzy> yes!
L725[13:40:22]
<Ariri>
uwu?
L727[13:41:10]
<Ariri>
XD
L728[13:41:30] <Izaya> anyone else
hype?
L729[13:42:10] <Lizzy> ooh, Adguard home
now has a dns rewrite thingy
L730[13:43:26] <Lizzy> awesome, not that i
have much use for it but now i can just have addresses for internal
stuff point to the internal ip rather than my external ip
L731[13:43:34]
<Ariri>
Hype
L732[13:59:20] <Izaya> Ariri: question,
what sort of uplink does your server has
L733[13:59:30] <AmandaC> tincan and
string
L734[13:59:51] <Lizzy> 10 speed
L735[13:59:57]
<Ariri>
Basically, are you on the server right now?
L736[14:00:20] <Izaya> yeah I'm just
wondering
L737[14:00:26] <Lizzy> also isn't
"tincan and string" basically Australia?
L738[14:00:28] *
Lizzy hides
L739[14:00:30]
<Ariri>
Sorry about that.
L740[14:00:33] <Izaya> the "no route
to host" reminds me of my own VDSL router
L741[14:00:37]
<Ariri> Oooh
Lizzy wow
L742[14:01:07] <Lizzy> i mean, it's not
like Izaya has complained about aussie internet before lol
L743[14:01:25] <Izaya> Don't get me
started.
L744[14:01:31]
<Ariri>
True
L745[14:59:12]
<Ariri>
Fixed it
L746[14:59:54]
<Ariri> I’m
just a dummy and didn’t realize it would read it’s own logs on
restart and re-overload itself because i made it “feedback
loop”
L747[15:00:19]
<Ariri>
(have pihole as dhcp and using conditional forwarding)
L748[15:00:20] <Lizzy> lol
L749[15:00:57]
<Ariri> %bap
Ariri
L750[15:00:57] *
MichiBot baps Ariri with bag of catnip
L751[15:01:07]
<Ariri>
:3
L752[15:01:16]
<Forecaster>
hm
L753[15:01:19] *
Lizzy runs off with the catnip bag
L754[15:01:30]
<Forecaster>
I should update bap to be in-line with pet and attack
L755[15:01:35]
<Ariri> nyo
das mine
L756[15:02:14]
<Ariri> runs
after Lizzy
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L758[15:26:36] <Inari> It's sort of
amusing playing a f2p game and noticing all those psychologic
tricks they try to pull to get people to buy more
L759[15:26:48] <Inari> Like having a
broadcast on who just got something facny from a lootbox
L760[15:27:32]
<Forecaster>
yep
L761[15:33:54] <Izaya> Inari: then
noticing those tricks in $100 games
L762[15:36:25]
<Forecaster>
those poor companies, barely making any money
L763[15:36:28]
<Forecaster>
[sadface]
L764[15:37:34] <Izaya> man
L765[15:37:36] <Izaya> how do they
survive
L766[15:37:49] <Izaya> not making
literally all the money in the world, every day
L768[15:38:23] <MichiBot>
? 4 Games
Changed Because Publishers Think Americans are Stupid | Fact Hunt |
Larry Bundy Jr | length:
12m 30s | Likes:
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2
Views:
520 | by
Larry Bundy Jr | Published On
17/11/2019
L769[15:38:41] <AmandaC> JELLY
DOUGHNUTS!
L770[15:38:54] <Inari> Izaya: Sure, just
feels like this game has about all of them xD
L771[15:39:04] <Izaya> is it an EA
game?
L772[15:39:07] <Inari> Nope
L773[15:39:18] <Izaya> Ubisoft,
then?
L774[15:39:38] <Inari> NetEase
L775[15:40:40] <simon816> >china
L776[15:40:58]
<Forecaster>
they've made an Uno game apparently
L777[15:41:06]
<Forecaster>
wonder how many microtransactions that one has
L778[15:41:08] <Izaya> simon816: better
than american
L779[15:47:46] <Ariri> I see people
playing the Uno game frequently (If i’m thinking of the right one)
and sometimes even when someone has the cards and it’s very strange
to me
L781[15:52:45] <MichiBot>
Reacting to
Someone 'Roasting' My Best Video | length:
27m 49s |
Likes:
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143 Views:
173,893 | by
Nick Robinson | Published On 20/3/2019
L782[16:00:06] <Inari> Izaya: Seen that
talk by Torulf something or other?
L783[16:00:32] <Izaya> Maybe. About?
L784[16:00:40] <Inari> About how to make
people pay in your game
L786[16:00:51] <MichiBot>
Let’s go
whaling: Tricks for monetising mobile game players with
free-to-play | length:
19m 49s | Likes:
2,788 Dislikes:
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PocketGamerbiz | Published On 3/10/2016
L787[16:00:53] <Inari> you'll hate
him
L788[16:02:45] <Izaya> I've heard about
this one.
L789[16:02:53] <Izaya> Is this the one
that mentions super-whales?
L790[16:03:09] <Inari> @Forecaster hey
look
L791[16:03:16] <Inari> Thats first game in
that video you linked is the game I meant
L792[16:03:16] <Inari> :D
L793[16:03:54] <Inari> Like
L794[16:04:03] <Inari> The very frist
video snippet in the video
L795[16:04:46]
<Forecaster>
I don't know what game that is
L796[16:04:51] <Inari> Cyberhunter
L797[16:05:01]
<Forecaster>
never heard of
L798[16:05:25] <Inari> It's some mediocre
battle royale game
L799[16:05:36]
<Forecaster>
oh wait
L800[16:05:41] <Inari> thats chucked full
of ways to try to make you pay
L801[16:05:46]
<Forecaster>
it's that "open world battle royale"
L802[16:05:53] <Inari> I mean
L803[16:06:02] <Inari> It's literally like
every other battle royale as far as I can tell
L804[16:06:03]
<Forecaster>
I saw a trailer for that a couple of days ago
L805[16:06:05] <Inari> You just land on
some island
L806[16:06:15] <Inari> Not sure why they
advertise is as openworld
L807[16:06:43]
<Forecaster>
marketing
L808[16:07:35]
<AdorableCatgirl> what's going on
L809[16:08:15] <AmandaC> Open world. So
hot right now [popcorn nom]
L810[16:08:17]
<Forecaster>
marketing!
L811[16:08:34]
<AdorableCatgirl> i'm trying to install
linux
L812[16:08:35]
<AdorableCatgirl> atm
L813[16:08:44]
<Forecaster>
you need more marketing
L814[16:08:50] <AmandaC> @AdorableCatgirl
did you gather the right number of goats?
L815[16:08:56]
<AdorableCatgirl> ? ? shut
@Forecaster
L816[16:09:11]
<AdorableCatgirl> AmandaC: I chose the
right flash drive afaict
L817[16:09:12]
<Forecaster>
that's not a marketing way to talk to someone
L819[16:20:20] <Inari> @Forecaster
honestly, Wipeout Xl is the better title. It says it's a bigger
game, which it is, since it's bascially a trackpack
L820[16:21:11]
<Forecaster>
not really the point of the video but okay
L821[16:21:22] <Inari> I know
L822[16:21:28] <Inari> Just saying it
would've been a better overall name
L823[16:26:16]
<AdorableCatgirl> an arch package just
happens to be missing
L824[16:26:17]
<AdorableCatgirl> reee
L825[16:30:31]
<AdorableCatgirl> why the fuck are half the
packages missing
L826[16:32:14]
<Forecaster>
that last video, that's the one Sterling used in his videos about
this
L827[16:32:18]
<Forecaster>
it's pretty awful
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L829[16:56:36]
<Paradoxical> @AdorableCatgirl try doing
`pacman -Syu` or just `pacman -Syy`
L830[16:57:05]
<Paradoxical> It's most likely that you
haven't gotten the latest db version and you just need to update
them to find the right version of that package
L831[16:57:21]
<The_Stargazer> >arch
L832[16:57:55]
<The_Stargazer> at least its not Gentoo or
LFS tho
L833[16:58:02]
<Paradoxical> lol I used to do lfs
L834[16:58:06]
<Paradoxical> I hated it
L835[16:58:14]
<The_Stargazer> how does it even
work?
L836[16:58:24]
<Paradoxical> building everything
manually
L837[16:58:34]
<The_Stargazer> sounds like hell
L838[16:58:37]
<Paradoxical> I mean it taught me about how
Linux works but it's not a viable "distribution"
L839[16:58:38]
<Paradoxical> yeah it is
L840[16:59:40]
<Paradoxical> kde takes like 1000 packages
total
L841[16:59:40]
<Paradoxical> and I wanted to install
it
L842[16:59:41]
<Paradoxical> it was hell
L843[16:59:43]
<Paradoxical> absolute hell
L845[17:00:15] <Izaya> slackware is much
more practical than LFS
L846[17:01:05]
<Forecaster>
%tonkout
L847[17:01:05] <MichiBot> Dagnabbit!
Forecaster! You beat your own previous record of 2 hours, 54
minutes and 33 seconds (By 1 hour, 20 minutes and 9 seconds)! I
hope you're happy!
L848[17:01:06] <MichiBot> Forecaster has
tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.004 tonk points!
plus 0.006 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score:
1.3802
L849[17:01:18]
<AdorableCatgirl> so
L850[17:01:20]
<AdorableCatgirl> my problem was
L851[17:02:24]
<AdorableCatgirl> mkfs.ext4 went 1000% sped
and decided to make the partition 85MB
L852[17:04:49]
<BohemianHacks> @Vexatos those recipes
don't work at all for modern versions. Im pretty sure they havent
worked since 1.7. There is an addon mod the adds OC compatibility
for gregtech CE and tries to autogenerate some recipes, but they
arn't every greg techy.
L853[17:05:05]
<BohemianHacks> @Vexatos those recipes
don't work at all for modern versions. Im pretty sure they havent
worked since 1.7. There is an addon mod that adds OC compatibility
for gregtech CE and tries to autogenerate some recipes, but they
arn't every greg techy. [Edited]
L854[17:05:32] <Vexatos> as far as I can
tell GTCE uses the same internals as GT
L855[17:05:37] <Vexatos> if it doesn't
that's not my problem :P
L856[17:05:51] <Vexatos> but your
crafttweaker script suggests that it should just work
L857[17:06:00] <Vexatos> and at most
involve minor tweaks, as I said
L859[17:06:14] <MichiBot>
Title:
Add in support for GregTech Community Edition
| Posted by:
ScienceDrummer
| Posted: Sat Jun 23 17:38:26 CDT 2018
|
Status: open
L860[17:06:59]
<BohemianHacks> @Vexatos based on the
autogenerated recipe from the mod I mentioned it really shouldnt be
too hard
L862[17:11:36] <Vexatos> you're free to
submit a pull request
L863[17:11:52]
<BohemianHacks> Biggest issue is what
@payonel touched on in that issue. I'm not sure how feature
complete or stable gregtech CE is. For me I just wanted to play
with it so crafttweaker is fine.
L864[17:12:12] <Vexatos> that's the
problem really
L865[17:12:21]
<BohemianHacks> If someone else actually
wants it, I might put in the effort but its like... just me ?
L866[17:12:26] <Vexatos> I have not much
trust in GTCE
L867[17:12:50] <Vexatos> but from what you
showed the item system is completely identical to GT5
L868[17:13:08] <Vexatos> most of it is
oredict items anyway
L869[17:13:13] <Vexatos> which are the
easiest to handle
L870[17:14:20]
<BohemianHacks> Im not even super familiar
with gregtech. It was always that random grinding thing people
memed about, but its actually pretty neat.
L871[17:14:34] <Vexatos> yea no shit
>_>
L872[17:14:34]
<BohemianHacks> Im super late to the whole
thing though.
L873[17:15:32] <Vexatos> GTCE is based on
GregTech 5 just so you know, not GregTech 6 which is new and
improved™
L874[17:15:58]
<BohemianHacks> Yeah, ive been reading on
gt5 some because documentation is pretty much nil
L875[17:16:33]
<BohemianHacks> all the gregtech versions
and use in custom packs makes it ... interesting, to try to figure
out
L876[17:17:04]
<BohemianHacks> basically everying online
is about omnifactory, but thats a whole custom progression pack
with a bunch of other mods.
L877[17:17:19]
<BohemianHacks> So trying to just generate
power is sort of an experiment, but it makes it fun.
L878[17:29:50]
<Forecaster>
This is the silliest thing
L880[17:29:53] <MichiBot>
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L881[17:30:21]
<Forecaster>
(And it's obviously meant to be silly)
L882[17:37:07] ⇦
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L883[17:39:05] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L884[17:39:06] <MichiBot> Fudge!
CompanionCube! You beat Forecaster's previous record of <0 (By
38 minutes)! I hope you're happy!
L885[17:39:07] <MichiBot> CompanionCube's
new record is 38 minutes! CompanionCube also gained 0.00063 tonk
points for stealing the tonk.
L886[17:44:21]
⇨ Joins: Vexatos
(Vexatos!~Vexatos@port-92-192-93-17.dynamic.qsc.de)
L887[17:44:22]
zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L888[17:44:34] ⇦
Quits: Vexatos (Vexatos!~Vexatos@port-92-192-93-17.dynamic.qsc.de)
(Client Quit)
L889[17:50:19] ⇦
Quits: Ariri (Ariri!uid378594@id-378594.hathersage.irccloud.com)
(Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
L890[18:03:23] <AmandaC> payonel: has
there been any big changes in Stationeers in the few months since I
got you hooked then fucked off?
L891[18:06:33] ⇦
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L892[18:07:59]
<Forecaster>
They've changed and added loads of things
L893[18:51:07] <payonel> @BohemianHacks
about that ticket you linked, for gregtech recipes
L894[18:51:24] <payonel> if you are a
gregtech user, and an oc user, why can't you submit a better
config?
L895[19:00:04] <AmandaC> payonel: It's
been so long. I shouldn't have dismissed the tutorial. Day three,
I've not got power even close to ready. I've had to replace two
batteries.
L896[19:05:00] <AmandaC> I remember
nothing from this game.
L897[21:17:13] ⇦
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L898[22:06:15] <Izaya> Ariri: I think your
server is kill
L899[22:16:17]
<BohemianHacks> @payonel for basically the
reasons you said. if/when something gregtech is updated and stable
I might give it a go. This is really my first gregtech anything
since it was just an IC2 mod, but I hope to learn it a little more.
It all depends on how long 1.12 and gregtech CE are relevant. Its a
little late to worry about it now, but I'm not really up to date
with current modding trends. TLDR: If someone actually wants 1.12
gregtech CE recipe
L900[22:16:17]
<BohemianHacks> give it a go, otherwise ill
try for the next release. maybe 1.14?
L901[22:17:12]
<BohemianHacks> %tonk
L902[22:17:12] <MichiBot> Potzblitz!
BohemianHacks! You beat CompanionCube's previous record of 38
minutes (By 4 hours and 5 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L903[22:17:13] <MichiBot> BohemianHacks's
new record is 4 hours, 38 minutes and 6 seconds! BohemianHacks also
gained 0.004 tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L904[22:38:55]
<The_Stargazer> Izaya: is server still
kill?
L905[22:39:40]
<BohemianHacks> Looking at versions, none
of the major tech mods have really updated past 1.12 from what I
can see. I guess the forge rewrite and static block stuff really
derailed things for a bit.
L906[23:09:10]
<The_Stargazer> Izaya: I think I broke
Minitel.. I sent a broadcast and it keeps getting re-sent
L907[23:18:26]
<The_Stargazer> I keep getting the
broadcast on Minitel02 and MinitelRelay
L908[23:21:13]
<The_Stargazer> Is it because it's
connected via a relay?
L909[23:21:18]
<The_Stargazer> instead of wireless?
L910[23:22:32]
<The_Stargazer> nope, even with wireless it
happens
L911[23:24:46]
<The_Stargazer> strangely, the sender
(Minitel02) doesn't get the broadcast.. at all.
L912[23:24:59]
<The_Stargazer> but Minitel01 and
MinitelRelay repeatedly receive it
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L914[23:56:27]
<Ariri>
Izaya: That was totally my bad... Sorry
L915[23:57:22]
<Ariri> I
entered console to see if anyone was on to do a maintenance restart
and i think the server froze after my command (i didnt press enter
again to check it was running) and so it auto-shutdown
L916[23:58:11]
<Ariri> You
should @ me if it happens, I have remote access and IRC Cloud
doesn't keep me connected.