L1[00:05:27] <Izaya> :D
L2[00:05:34] <Izaya> okay, general RPC on a
microcontroller; success!
L3[00:25:13] <Izaya> https://imgur.com/8fWliMs.png
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L13[00:55:38] <Izaya> %tell ben_mkiv
https://imgur.com/VPuXHxu.png
L14[00:55:38] <MichiBot> Izaya: ben_mkiv
will be notified of this message when next seen.
L15[01:32:27] 
<Forecaster>
%tonk
<Forecaster>
%tonkL16[01:32:27] <MichiBot> Dagnammit!
Forecaster! You beat Ariri's previous record of 3 hours, 32 minutes
and 29 seconds (By 2 hours, 49 minutes and 45 seconds)! I hope
you're happy!
L17[01:32:28] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new
record is 6 hours, 22 minutes and 15 seconds! Forecaster also
gained 0.01132 (0.00283 x 4) tonk points for stealing the
tonk.
L18[01:33:06] <The_Stargazer> are there simple GUI libs
available for use?
<The_Stargazer> are there simple GUI libs
available for use?L19[01:41:18] <Ariri> dang it, i
forgot
L20[02:18:39] <Izaya> I feel like
"simple" GUIs aren't really a thing
L21[02:18:46] <Izaya> kinda an
oxymoron
L22[02:18:49] <Izaya> a contradiction
L23[02:28:40] <CompanionCube> Izaya: in OC
the very concept of 'graphics' isn't really a thing
L24[02:29:13] <Izaya> which helps simplify
somewhat
L25[02:29:32] <CompanionCube> a 'simple'
GUI is only an oxymoron given the above
L26[02:36:02] <Sketamine>
there is actually a few gui libs out there you just have to find
them
<Sketamine>
there is actually a few gui libs out there you just have to find
themL27[02:36:21] <Sketamine>
maybe not simple though
<Sketamine>
maybe not simple thoughL28[02:43:00] ⇦
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L33[03:34:52] <Lizzy> %tonk
L34[03:34:52] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Lizzy,
you were not able to beat Forecaster's record of 6 hours, 22
minutes and 15 seconds this time. 2 hours, 2 minutes and 25 seconds
were wasted! Missed by 4 hours, 19 minutes and 50 seconds!
L35[03:34:58] <Lizzy> aww
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L39[04:35:28] <bauen1> these are the kinds
of issues why i'm a bit reluctant to use ldoc: https://github.com/stevedonovan/LDoc/issues/206
L40[04:35:29] <MichiBot> Title:
Inline reference to Class (@type) | Posted by: zjarkov |
Posted: Thu Jul 23 10:03:49 CDT 2015 | Status:
open
L41[04:35:36] <bauen1> but other than that
it works quite nicely
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L43[05:33:59] <idk> Hi
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L48[05:41:40] <Lizzy> k
L49[05:41:43] <Lizzy> %sip
L50[05:41:43] <MichiBot> You drink a
resonating cyan potion (New!). Lizzy grows a mustache until their
next sip of water.
L51[05:42:38] <Forecaster>
%sip
<Forecaster>
%sipL52[05:42:38] <MichiBot> You drink a smelly
weather potion (New!). Forecaster's pockets suddenly contain a
number of ruby colored marbles.
L53[05:42:48] <Lizzy> %sip water
L54[05:42:48] <MichiBot> You drink some
water. Wait... this isn't water... it's a warpy crimson
potion!
L55[05:43:12] <Lizzy> %sip ^
L56[05:43:12] <MichiBot> Everything Lizzy
says is now in Comic Sans until Sozin's Comet returns.
L57[05:43:45] *
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water from MichiBot
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L59[06:13:50] <Forecaster>
%restart
<Forecaster>
%restartL60[06:14:11] <Forecaster>
oh... right... I'm on discord... doh
<Forecaster>
oh... right... I'm on discord... dohL61[06:31:29] <Soni> the only GUI one needs
is text positioning and line wrap/marquee
L62[06:32:33] <Soni> (marquee is easier to
work with)
L63[06:32:58] <Soni> in any case you're
gonna need an unicode width library
L64[06:33:32] <Izaya> Like unicode?
:p
L65[06:45:30] <Inari> AmandaC: https://www.reddit.com/r/aww/comments/dpyc8z/my_stepdad_took_the_dog_for_a_walk_and_all_the/
haha
L66[06:45:54] <Soni> does it support
widths
L67[06:46:40] <Izaya> yeah you use
unicode.len and you get the length in character cells
L68[06:47:28] <Soni> okay
L69[06:48:26] <Soni> also something that
can split on grapheme clusters
L70[06:48:53] <Izaya> it's like
L71[06:49:03] <Izaya> all the
length-related functions of the string library
L72[06:49:05] <Izaya> but unicode
aware
L73[06:49:11] <Izaya> I believe the
functions are inherited from java
L74[06:49:13] <Soni> (unicode is fun)
L75[06:49:36] <Soni> (ever heard of
grapheme clusters?)
L76[06:50:26] <AdorableCatgirl> lua 5.3 has native
unicode support
<AdorableCatgirl> lua 5.3 has native
unicode supportL77[06:50:34] <Izaya> a more obnoxious term
for a unicode character
L78[06:50:47] <AdorableCatgirl> `utf8`.whatever
<AdorableCatgirl> `utf8`.whateverL79[06:50:57] <Soni> no, that has a
different meaning
L80[06:51:28] <AmandaC> %wiki grapheme
clusters
L81[06:51:29] <MichiBot> AmandaC: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grapheme - *Grapheme -
Wikipedia*: "In linguistics, a grapheme is the smallest unit
of a writing system of any given language. An individual grapheme
may or may not carry meaning by itself, and ..."
L82[06:52:18] <AmandaC> so, functionally, a
unicode code point.
L83[06:52:30] <Soni> no, that also has a
different meaning
L84[06:52:51] <AmandaC> (X) Doubt
L85[06:54:19] <Soni> http://www.unicode.org/glossary/
L86[06:54:59] <Soni> don't be so
anglocentric, Karen
L87[06:55:23] <Inari> Don't be a
Karenist
L88[06:56:45] <AmandaC> I can't exactly fix
that, considering I only know english, dispitemy best
efforts.
L89[06:57:22] <Soni> you can start by
stopping doubting
L90[06:57:52] <AmandaC> I only doubted it
because it came from you, who has a history of semi-making-up terms
or transplanting terms out of their original context into an
unrelated one.
L91[06:58:14] <Soni> that's different from
telling you about definitions
L92[06:58:25] <AmandaC> You present the
informatino in the same way
L93[06:58:37] <Soni> no, not really
L94[06:59:13] <Soni> made up terms and
metaphors = in text etc
L95[06:59:27] <Soni> not "that has a
different meaning" etc
L96[06:59:40] <AdorableCatgirl> wtf
<AdorableCatgirl> wtfL97[07:03:41] <Soni> oh, you might be
thinking of "bitcoin is ocap on a blockchain" etc
L98[07:04:10] <AdorableCatgirl> w h a t
<AdorableCatgirl> w h a tL99[07:04:37] <Soni> you'd think those are
obviously shitposts...
L100[07:05:15] <Soni> anyway, w/e, you
know how to look for the authoritative sources, so just do it
L101[07:05:55] <Soni> I'll guess OC has
broken grapheme cluster rendering tho
L102[07:07:28] <AdorableCatgirl> alrighty then
<AdorableCatgirl> alrighty thenL103[07:08:15] <AdorableCatgirl> man, you're literally a
drain on fun
<AdorableCatgirl> man, you're literally a
drain on funL104[07:10:08] <Forecaster> %restart
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L108[07:12:01] <AdorableCatgirl> f
<AdorableCatgirl> fL109[07:12:10] <AdorableCatgirl> michibot fucking
died
<AdorableCatgirl> michibot fucking
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L111[07:16:16] <Inari> Uh
L112[07:16:18] <Inari> It restarted?
L113[07:19:47] <AdorableCatgirl> ye
<AdorableCatgirl> yeL114[08:05:17] <Izaya> >write clever
screen allocator for multiple displays
L115[08:05:21] <Izaya> >[--vm--]
/home/izaya/Documents/ocvm/system/machine.lua:1046: getDeviceInfo
not implemented
L116[08:34:55] <Ariri>
%tonk
<Ariri>
%tonkL117[08:34:56] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Ariri,
you were not able to beat Forecaster's record of 6 hours, 22
minutes and 15 seconds this time. 5 hours and 2 seconds were
wasted! Missed by 1 hour, 22 minutes and 12 seconds!
L118[08:35:15] <Ariri>
heck
<Ariri>
heckL119[08:35:41] <Ariri> oh
yeah duh, time change
<Ariri> oh
yeah duh, time changeL120[08:41:45] <Elfi> Oh right
L121[08:41:56] <Elfi> That's why I'm awake
at a decent hour
L122[08:42:46] *
AmandaC giggles, snugs up around Elfi, yawns, as she is
bored.
L123[08:42:52] <AmandaC> %8ball more
scared green mario?
L124[08:42:53] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Without
a doubt
L125[08:42:59] *
Elfi hugs Amanda ;u;
L126[08:43:03] <Elfi> Pas is okay!
L127[08:43:13] <AmandaC> Pas?
L128[08:43:22] <Elfi> Paxiti
L129[08:43:34] *
AmandaC feels like she's missing context
L130[08:43:42] <Elfi> The one behind the
picture of the catgirl with the trans pride shirt
L131[08:43:57] <AmandaC> Ah, did
someething happen to them? :s
L132[08:44:02] <Elfi> They were in a bad
way for a while and went silent so people feared the worst
L133[08:44:07] <AmandaC> ah
L134[08:44:16] <Elfi> I thought I had
mentioned it to you, I'm sorry
L135[08:44:32] <Elfi> I was beside myself
with worry
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L138[08:48:26] <asie> experimenting with
CTIF2
L139[08:50:07] *
AmandaC pawhugs Elfi
L140[08:50:09] <AmandaC> It's okay.
L141[08:50:25] *
Elfi hugs ;u;
L142[08:55:48] <Ariri>
cute
<Ariri>
cuteL143[08:56:06] <Ariri> v
wholesome
<Ariri> v
wholesomeL144[08:57:25] <Forecaster>
%sip
<Forecaster>
%sipL145[08:57:27] <MichiBot> You drink a
warpy transparent potion (New!). Forecaster feels chill.
L146[08:58:36] <Inari> %pet Elfi
L147[08:58:36] *
MichiBot brushes Elfi with fitness fleece. 6 health
gained!
L148[09:01:50] <asie> Izaya: bug report
received. it's the one which appeared ages ago, but we still don't
know why or if it's specific to oc-staging - it's super rare
L149[09:02:10] <Izaya> okey
L150[09:06:18] <descention>
Are there any other updated Minecraft mods that do programming in
game?
<descention>
Are there any other updated Minecraft mods that do programming in
game?L151[09:08:38] <Lizzy> fucking ssh session
stop crashing
L152[09:08:50] <Forecaster>
check curseforge?
<Forecaster>
check curseforge?L153[09:11:57]
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L155[09:20:40] <Lizzy> errr, okay one of
my domains has switched back stuff.... wtf
L156[09:22:26] <Forecaster>
server ghosts!
<Forecaster>
server ghosts!L157[09:24:27] <Lizzy> idk why it's
getting my old blog on my main domain...
L158[09:25:26] <Lizzy> %lookup
whirlpool.theender.net
L159[09:25:29] <MichiBot> ERROR: No DNS
record for 'whirlpool.theender.net'
L160[09:25:30] <MichiBot> DNS error
Resolved: Unresolved: whirlpool.theender.net
L161[09:25:35] <Lizzy> erm
L162[09:25:37] <Lizzy> wat
L163[09:26:06] <Forecaster>
Resolved: Unresolved best error
<Forecaster>
Resolved: Unresolved best errorL164[09:26:14] <Lizzy> ok.... what the
fuck firefox?
L165[09:26:45] <Lizzy> Forecaster, could
you try going to my main domain (theender.net) and tell me if you
get my blog or the actual enternet site?
L166[09:27:12] <Forecaster>
I get your portal page
<Forecaster>
I get your portal pageL167[09:27:28] <Lizzy> good, that means
you're hitting whirlpool then
L168[09:28:01] <Lizzy> for some unknown
reason. my work pc is getting responded to by ayiana which is on a
different ip
L169[09:28:21] <Forecaster>
local host record?
<Forecaster>
local host record?L170[09:28:31] <Lizzy> it shouldn't be,
no
L171[09:28:37] <Forecaster>
or outdated cached dns records?
<Forecaster>
or outdated cached dns records?L172[09:28:48] <Lizzy> nslookup in command
prompt returns the right thing
L173[09:28:58] <Forecaster>
weird
<Forecaster>
weirdL174[09:29:09] <Forecaster>
page cached in browser?
<Forecaster>
page cached in browser?L175[09:29:50] <Lizzy> nope, looking at
the dev console it's actually making the connection to ayiana
L176[09:30:57] <Lizzy> lemme restart
FF
L177[09:31:39] <Lizzy> now it's getting
the right page
L178[09:31:41] <Lizzy> what the fuck
L179[09:31:46] <Forecaster>
woo
<Forecaster>
wooL180[09:32:12] <Izaya> https://i.imgur.com/LzNJpxh.png
L181[09:32:24] <Lizzy> meh. i guess i'll
just have to be annoyed with never working out what the fuck it
did
L182[09:32:47] <Lizzy> cause theender.net
hasn't pointed to ayiana for some months now
L183[09:33:18] <Forecaster>
ghosts.
<Forecaster>
ghosts.L184[09:33:44] <Izaya> How can I put more
than 5 GPUs in a server?
L185[09:34:04] <Forecaster>
more servers
<Forecaster>
more serversL186[09:36:47] <Lizzy> https://i.redd.it/z4yxvycau0w31.jpg relatable
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L188[09:47:54] <Izaya> https://social.shadowkat.net/media/c37cd774d362399c661cd84fdd5b7fc5ab8aeb4c9f56cd696953435c7f20ba7a.webm
L189[09:47:57] <Izaya> AdorableCatgirl:
^
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L192[09:54:01] <AdorableCatgirl> Izaya: oh yeah, this is
epic
<AdorableCatgirl> Izaya: oh yeah, this is
epicL193[09:54:14] <Izaya> add a little bit of
vcomponent
L194[09:54:22] <Izaya> and you have remote
components that act like local components :^)
L195[09:54:40] <AdorableCatgirl> oh yeah i need to finish
zorya-neo
<AdorableCatgirl> oh yeah i need to finish
zorya-neoL196[09:54:55] <AdorableCatgirl> so we can have bios level
vcomponent
<AdorableCatgirl> so we can have bios level
vcomponentL197[09:55:00] <Izaya> ayy and since that
video I made the redstone functions actually return
L198[09:55:12] *
Izaya coughs
L199[09:56:06] <Izaya> it's worth noting I
don't actually have rpc servers for non-embedded devices yet
L200[09:58:27] <AdorableCatgirl> lmao
<AdorableCatgirl> lmaoL201[09:59:32] <Izaya> because quite
frankly it's not something I needed for what I was doing
L202[09:59:50] <Izaya> I just needed lots
of redstone outputs
L203[10:00:33] <AdorableCatgirl> i mean
<AdorableCatgirl> i meanL204[10:00:43] <AdorableCatgirl> fair enuf
<AdorableCatgirl> fair enufL205[10:00:57] <Izaya> industrial
automation means lots of GPIOs
L206[10:01:40] <AdorableCatgirl> fair
<AdorableCatgirl> fairL207[10:02:23] <Izaya> what I wrote should
work nicely to export arbitrary components over RPC though
L208[10:02:25] <Izaya> :3
L209[10:02:51] *
Izaya exports capacitor_bank over RPC
L210[10:03:35] <AdorableCatgirl> gpu over rpc when
<AdorableCatgirl> gpu over rpc whenL211[10:03:46] <Izaya> never
L212[10:03:48] <Izaya> not allowed
L213[10:04:00] *
Izaya squints
L214[10:04:00] <AmandaC> Izaya: ben's
ocdevices mod has a block for housing extra cards.
L215[10:04:02] <Izaya> hold up
L216[10:04:06] <Izaya> what did you just
say
L217[10:04:11] <Izaya> AmandaC: yeah I
couldn't get it to do anything
L218[10:04:38] <Izaya> AdorableCatgirl:
soon: remote terminals that just expose the GPU over RPC
L219[10:11:24] <AdorableCatgirl> big think
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down before she ends up throwing her phone at the wall
L223[10:35:38] <Forecaster>
don't do that
<Forecaster>
don't do thatL224[10:35:46] <Forecaster>
you might damage the wall
<Forecaster>
you might damage the wallL225[10:36:51] <Lizzy> it aint my wall so
i don't care
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L227[10:37:04] <Lizzy> and i don't get
paid enough to care lol
L228[10:51:06] <Caitlyn> https://drive.pc-logix.com/index.php/s/FdYaXwt75rxBP7a
L229[10:55:19] <AmandaC> Caitlyn: that
episode's from when i was six months old? O.o
L230[10:55:52] <Caitlyn> Ouch.... g et off
my lawn
L231[10:56:12] <AmandaC> :P
L232[10:56:26] *
Caitlyn yells at a cloud
L233[10:56:40] <AmandaC> I didn't realise
that TNG was still airing new episodes after I was born.
L234[10:56:57] <AmandaC> I only remember
catching it as reruns in my teens
L235[10:58:12] <Caitlyn> May 23,
1994
L236[10:58:15] <Caitlyn> last
episode
L237[10:58:22] <AmandaC> huh
L238[11:01:55] <ben_mkiv> %sip
L239[11:01:56] <MichiBot> You drink a
runny emerald potion (New!). ben_mkiv feels a sudden surge of
static electricity.
L240[11:02:50] <bpm140> %teleport
L241[11:03:00] <bpm140> i died
L242[11:03:30] <AmandaC> Respect Instant
Pasta
L243[11:08:32] <Lizzy> %sip
L244[11:08:33] <MichiBot> You drink a
porous aether potion (New!). Everything Lizzy says is now in
Wingdings until they see a bird.
L245[11:38:14] <MichiBot> You drink a
light ruby potion (New!). Elfi reboots for an update for 2
minutes.
L246[11:38:14] <Elfi> %quaff
L247[11:38:19] *
Elfi clonk.
L248[11:41:24] <Caitlyn> %drink
L249[11:41:24] <MichiBot> You drink a
gloopy titanium potion (New!). Caitlyn turns into a sloth platypus
girl until they see a star fall.
L250[11:41:30] <Caitlyn> I...
L251[11:41:32] <Caitlyn> Erm.
L252[11:41:53] <Caitlyn> Huh..
L253[11:57:11] <Elfi> %quaff mutable pink
potion
L254[11:57:11] <MichiBot> Elfi turns into
a tan lava until they leave the computer.
L255[11:57:18] *
Elfi oozes away from the computer
L256[12:00:13] <Lizzy> %sip
L257[12:00:13] <MichiBot> You drink a
seeping bavarium potion (New!). The potion contained a computer
virus! But Lizzy's anti-virus routines destroy it.
L258[12:01:31] <Elfi> %quaff sparkling
grathnode potion
L259[12:01:31] <MichiBot> This doesn't
seem to be a potion I recognize... Make sure it has an appearance
and consistency keyword, and the word "potion" in
it.
L260[12:01:33] <Elfi> Hmm
L261[12:01:35] <Elfi> Time to PR
L262[12:03:28] <Soni> some jokes only
assholes make. some jokes only make assholes.
L263[12:05:02] <AdorableCatgirl> saying something twice
doesn't make it a fact. saying something twice doesn't make it a
fact.
<AdorableCatgirl> saying something twice
doesn't make it a fact. saying something twice doesn't make it a
fact.L264[12:05:33] <AdorableCatgirl> wait i'm dyslexic
<AdorableCatgirl> wait i'm dyslexicL265[12:05:54] <AdorableCatgirl> nevermind, got the
fucking words backwards
<AdorableCatgirl> nevermind, got the
fucking words backwardsL266[12:06:02] <Soni> syntax is fun, as is
ambiguity
L267[12:07:54] *
Lizzy thinks she'll update her home server today and adjust some
stuff on it
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L270[12:33:04] <AmandaC> %8ball laptop
goes to the doctor?
L271[12:33:04] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Signs
point to yes
L272[12:33:12] *
AmandaC nods sagely
L273[12:38:12] <Inari> AmandaC:
again?
L274[12:44:13] <AmandaC> Inari human
doctor not computer doctor
L275[12:44:47] <AmandaC> Time for my
quarterly meds appointment
L276[12:44:52] <Inari> I see
L277[12:44:57] <Inari> Thougth your laptop
was broken and has to go to the doctor
L278[12:44:57] <Inari> :P
L279[12:45:03] <AmandaC> Nah
L280[12:45:15] <AmandaC> Though they still
haven't sent me the screws
L281[12:45:28] <AmandaC> Need to poke them
about that when I'm home
L282[13:00:48] <stephan48> %tonk
L283[13:00:48] <MichiBot> I'm sorry
stephan48, you were not able to beat Forecaster's record of 6
hours, 22 minutes and 15 seconds this time. 4 hours, 25 minutes and
52 seconds were wasted! Missed by 1 hour, 56 minutes and 22
seconds!
L284[13:00:56] <stephan48> damn.
L285[13:01:02] <stephan48> missed that
one
L286[13:06:45] <AdorableCatgirl> f
<AdorableCatgirl> fL287[13:07:07] <AdorableCatgirl> for a second
<AdorableCatgirl> for a secondL288[13:07:17] <AdorableCatgirl> i sat and thought
"did i take my meds today"
<AdorableCatgirl> i sat and thought
"did i take my meds today"L289[13:07:20] <AdorableCatgirl> then i remembered i
did
<AdorableCatgirl> then i remembered i
didL290[13:10:31] <Lizzy> %remindme 8m
pizza
L291[13:10:31] <MichiBot> I'll remind you
about "pizza" at 11/01/2019 01:18:31 PM
L292[13:18:31] <MichiBot> Lizzy REMINDER:
pizza
L293[13:18:35] <Lizzy> thans
MichiBot
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L297[14:41:13] <Lizzy> oh wonderful
L298[14:41:22] <Lizzy> steam now segfaults
on startup
L299[14:42:56] <Caitlyn> I'm not a huge
fan of the new UI... segfaulting would almost be better. :P
L300[14:43:28] <FeherNeoH>
I had its chromium gpu-process freeze on me with 3GB RAM
allocated
<FeherNeoH>
I had its chromium gpu-process freeze on me with 3GB RAM
allocatedL301[14:45:19] <Lizzy> hmm, i wonder if
it's missing some library...
L302[14:45:40] <Lizzy> yes
L303[14:45:49] <FeherNeoH>
that's what dependency declarations are supposed to
prevent...
<FeherNeoH>
that's what dependency declarations are supposed to
prevent...L304[14:46:07] <Lizzy> i forgot to
re-install lib32-nvidia-utils when i put my 970 back in my pc
L305[14:46:38] <FeherNeoH>
now I wish I had a 970
<FeherNeoH>
now I wish I had a 970L306[14:47:20] <Lizzy> i mean, previously
i had my Vega64 in my pc but my pc kept having graphics crashes so
i've put my 970 back in and will be testing my vega on some test
hardware i have
L307[14:47:52] <FeherNeoH>
if a Vega crashes on you all the time, look at your PSU
<FeherNeoH>
if a Vega crashes on you all the time, look at your PSUL308[14:48:30] <Lizzy> it doesn't crash
all the time
L309[14:48:45] <Lizzy> and sometimes it
crashes under load sometimes just on chrome
L310[14:48:58] <FeherNeoH>
they seem to be extremely sensitive to voltage fluctuation
<FeherNeoH>
they seem to be extremely sensitive to voltage fluctuationL311[14:49:13] <Lizzy> and if it was the
psu, then more than just the graphics would freeze, no?
L312[14:49:25] <Lizzy> everything else
continues, just the graphics freeze up
L313[14:49:30] <FeherNeoH>
my Vega 11 had no problems under load, Chrome crashed it a lot
though
<FeherNeoH>
my Vega 11 had no problems under load, Chrome crashed it a lot
thoughL314[14:49:37] <FeherNeoH>
replaced PSU, no problems since
<FeherNeoH>
replaced PSU, no problems sinceL315[14:49:40] <Lizzy> hmm
L316[14:50:10] <FeherNeoH>
saw the same with an RX 5700 too
<FeherNeoH>
saw the same with an RX 5700 tooL317[14:50:26] <Ocawesome101> Slightly off topic but I’ve
got an RX 560 and it works flawlessly
<Ocawesome101> Slightly off topic but I’ve
got an RX 560 and it works flawlesslyL318[14:50:43] <FeherNeoH>
that's... normal...
<FeherNeoH>
that's... normal...L319[14:50:59] *
Lizzy claps slowly
L320[14:51:01] <Lizzy> good for you
L321[14:51:15] <FeherNeoH>
you probably didn't use a '99 server power supply for your brand
new rig
<FeherNeoH>
you probably didn't use a '99 server power supply for your brand
new rigL322[14:51:16] <Ocawesome101> What psu do you have?
<Ocawesome101> What psu do you have?L323[14:51:27] <Ocawesome101> Oh yeah no I didn’t
lol
<Ocawesome101> Oh yeah no I didn’t
lolL324[14:51:37] <Ocawesome101> Maybe get a new PSU?
<Ocawesome101> Maybe get a new PSU?L325[14:51:42] <FeherNeoH>
I did
<FeherNeoH>
I didL326[14:51:44] <Lizzy> i've got a 650w
modular psu from corsair
L327[14:51:47] <FeherNeoH>
fixed my Vega problems
<FeherNeoH>
fixed my Vega problemsL328[14:51:50] <Ocawesome101> Oh ok
<Ocawesome101> Oh okL329[14:52:05] <FeherNeoH>
Well, COrsair should be okay
<FeherNeoH>
Well, COrsair should be okayL330[14:52:12] <FeherNeoH>
Well, Corsair should be okay [Edited]
<FeherNeoH>
Well, Corsair should be okay [Edited]L331[14:52:16] <Ocawesome101> I also have a 650w modular
from Corsair! Is yours the CX650M?
<Ocawesome101> I also have a 650w modular
from Corsair! Is yours the CX650M?L332[14:52:41] <Lizzy> i don't think so, i
think it's an i variant
L333[14:52:50] <Lizzy> lemme clear some
shit off my pc and i'll look
L334[14:53:30] <Lizzy> i was wrong
L335[14:53:33] <Lizzy> RM650
L336[14:56:20] <Lizzy> the psu on the pile
of spare hardware i call "bones" is onlt 500W and i've
connected the Vega up by 2 x 4-pin molex to 8-pin pcie since the
psu doesn't have those connections themselves, so we'll see how
good that goes
L337[14:56:40] <Lizzy> i need to go dig up
one of my displayport to dvi cables though
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L339[15:01:06] <Lizzy> meh, can't find one
right now, oh well
L340[15:01:46] <Ocawesome101> Hmm. Ok.
<Ocawesome101> Hmm. Ok.L341[15:12:30]
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L342[15:12:50] <z0id> I decided to get
irccloud again
L343[15:14:16] <AmandaC> so you say...
BRIAN!
L344[15:19:21] <z0id> wat
L345[15:19:35] <z0id> hold on...
L346[15:20:06] <z0id> fuck
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L349[15:20:28] <z0id> Whos' Brian?
L350[15:20:33] <AmandaC> You are.
L351[15:20:36] <AmandaC> It still says it.
:D
L352[15:20:39] <z0id> oh crap WTH
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L355[15:21:08] <z0id> ok
L356[15:21:10] <z0id> maybe now
L357[15:21:18] <AmandaC> Hi (nil)
L358[15:21:21] <z0id> it's not that I
reeeeely carre
L359[15:21:29] <z0id> but it's kind of
weird
L360[15:21:30] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L361[15:21:30] <MichiBot> I'm sorry
CompanionCube, you were not able to beat Forecaster's record of 6
hours, 22 minutes and 15 seconds this time. 2 hours, 20 minutes and
42 seconds were wasted! Missed by 4 hours, 1 minute and 33
seconds!
L362[15:22:35] <z0id> Ok I need to head
out to pick someone up. I noticed that irccloud has some sort of
custom IRC client support
L363[15:22:41] <z0id> I should check that
out
L364[15:22:49] <z0id> It just acts as a
normal bouncer then?
L365[15:23:03] <z0id> neat. I do not
rememeber this feature.
L366[15:22:53] <AmandaC> yup
L367[15:23:45] <AmandaC> %8ball
cereal?
L368[15:24:12] *
AmandaC paws at MichiBot
L369[15:24:52] <Caitlyn> it's dead
jim
L370[15:24:49] <AmandaC> @Forecaster broke
her again!
L371[15:24:35] <Caitlyn> %test
L372[15:24:26] <AmandaC> %8ball cereal
time?
L373[15:25:49] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Without
a doubt
L374[15:25:50] <MichiBot> Caitlyn:
Success
L375[15:25:56] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Outlook
not so good
L376[15:25:56] <Caitlyn> Oh....
L377[15:25:58] <Caitlyn> umm
L378[15:26:05] <Caitlyn> load on Eos is
currently 29 and climbing
L379[15:26:11] <AmandaC> oh dear
L380[15:26:07] <Caitlyn> quickly
L381[15:26:48] <Caitlyn> Aaaand..
dropping
L382[15:26:57] <Caitlyn> most of the CPU
usage was Corded..
L383[15:32:21] *
Lizzy claps
L384[15:35:06] <Inari> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/309529094452936705/639887213676593152/73313839_10206088673892864_4884797259293655040_n.png
L385[15:47:42] <AdorableCatgirl> I AM A GENIUS
<AdorableCatgirl> I AM A GENIUSL386[15:47:46] <AdorableCatgirl> I FIXED MY HEADACHE
<AdorableCatgirl> I FIXED MY HEADACHEL387[15:47:52] <AdorableCatgirl> ALL I NEEDED WAS
COFFEE
<AdorableCatgirl> ALL I NEEDED WAS
COFFEEL388[15:48:03] <Lizzy> did you remove your
head?
L389[15:48:21] <AdorableCatgirl> no i added coffee
<AdorableCatgirl> no i added coffeeL390[15:48:34] <AdorableCatgirl> i'm a caffeine
fiend
<AdorableCatgirl> i'm a caffeine
fiendL391[15:51:27] <AmandaC> Caffine
addiction! :D
L392[15:55:22] <Caitlyn> Good thing I'm
not addicted!
L393[15:55:17] <z0id> AdorableCatgirl:
Generally, water and food that has enough sodium can help with
headaches, because dehydration is extremely common and many people
have it without realizing it!
L394[15:55:13] *
Caitlyn looks over @ the bottle of Caffeine pills on her
desk
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L396[15:55:51] <z0id> I have coffee in my
brandy
L397[16:04:30]
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L399[16:03:42] <Caitlyn> yay
L400[16:03:42] <Caitlyn> and I have a call
to make so Ican't fix it now
L401[16:02:13] <Caitlyn> WTF
L402[16:02:12] <Caitlyn> load is now
topping 70
L403[16:02:09] <Caitlyn> welp..
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L405[16:07:57] <z0id> I'm using the
irccloud unofficial desktop app
L406[16:08:02] <z0id> it makes things
easier
L407[16:11:51] <AmandaC> unoffical desktop
app?
L408[16:12:46] <z0id> https://github.com/irccloud/irccloud-desktop
L409[16:12:52] <z0id> its just an electron
wrapper for irccloud
L410[16:13:01] <CompanionCube> 'desktop
app' sure
L411[16:13:31] *
z0id wraps CompanionCube in electron
L412[16:13:44] <CompanionCube> error: am
not written in javascript
L413[16:13:55] <z0id> No you are written
in COBOL
L414[16:14:07] <CompanionCube> i'm not
that old
L415[16:14:23] <z0id> Ok you are written
in ..... BASIC
L416[16:14:47] <CompanionCube> %stab
z0id
L417[16:14:47] *
MichiBot stabs z0id with a Magic destruction of cats! (25%) doing
22 damage (20+2)
L418[16:15:05] <z0id> %smack
CompanionCube
L419[16:15:12] <z0id> why is that not a
thing yet
L420[16:15:21] <CompanionCube> %bap
z0id
L421[16:15:21] *
MichiBot baps z0id with extreme agile cloud native digital
microservices
L422[16:15:22] <z0id> I want to see a
%heave command
L423[16:15:45] <AmandaC> z0id: that...
that's not unoffical, I don't think?
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L425[16:15:54] <z0id> are you sure?
L426[16:16:03] <z0id> oh wait you're
right
L427[16:16:11] <z0id> I didn't see that it
was part of the irccloud group
L428[16:22:07] <Caitlyn> ._> and load
is now back to 1.06
L429[16:22:08] <Caitlyn> wtf.
L430[16:23:48] <z0id> ?
L431[16:24:12] <The_Stargazer> can anyone recommend a
simple and easy-to-use GUI lib?
<The_Stargazer> can anyone recommend a
simple and easy-to-use GUI lib?L432[16:24:37] <z0id> ncurses.
L433[16:25:01] <Caitlyn> Load on Eos has
spiked twice now, once to ~30, and again to 70..
L434[16:25:01] <The_Stargazer> ncurses is a thing in
OC?
<The_Stargazer> ncurses is a thing in
OC?L435[16:25:09] <z0id> oh for OC?
L436[16:25:10] <z0id> no
L437[16:25:14] <The_Stargazer> aight
<The_Stargazer> aightL438[16:25:14] <Caitlyn> then it drops
before I have a chance to check anything, because work.
L439[16:25:22] <z0id> I think I recall
AmandaC working on one a LONG time ago
L440[16:25:25] <z0id> how did that come
out?
L441[16:25:48] <z0id> personally if I made
a GUI lib I would make it liek dialog for *nix
L442[16:25:57] <z0id> shell based
dialogs
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L446[16:30:16] *
Caitlyn shakes EOs
L447[16:30:20] <Caitlyn> WTF ARE YOU
DOING?
L448[16:31:40] <z0id> ?
L449[16:31:47] ***
z0id is now known as S3
L450[16:38:34] <AmandaC> I don't recall
ever working on a ncurses-type thing for OC
L451[16:38:53] <AmandaC> I made one for
CC, but it's stupid-inefficent and doesn't work under OC at
all
L452[16:39:49] <S3> oh that was it
L453[16:39:51] <S3> I remember now
L454[16:40:00] <AdorableCatgirl> oh yeah
<AdorableCatgirl> oh yeahL455[16:40:03] <AdorableCatgirl> it's gamer time
<AdorableCatgirl> it's gamer timeL456[16:40:49] <S3> I should make a dialog
lib just for OC
L457[16:41:16] <S3> If I do it well I
could even make it overlay over an existing application
L458[16:42:07] <S3> I could make a
paneling framebuffer lib to go with it
L459[16:42:35] <S3> I could make it for
trotwood and port it to OpenOS
L460[16:42:51] <S3> though trotwood has
little need for GUI things
L461[16:44:54] <S3> paneling as an
optional dependency, a mouse UI lib that is optional as well, and
then dialog itself
L462[16:46:17] <S3> You know I just
realized I have too many projects XD
L463[16:46:40] <bauen1> AmandaC: boy i
have a mostly working VT100 implementation for you
L464[16:46:52] <bauen1> mostly working
=> most essential stuff is supported
L465[16:47:05] <bauen1> should be enough
to implement something like ncurses
L466[16:47:14] <bauen1> i do have my own
version of libedit / readline
L467[16:50:22] <AmandaC> I mean. my CC
thing just used raw screen calls
L468[16:52:49] <S3> bauen1: bauen1 does it
have bell support
L469[16:53:43] <S3> Trotwood has a special
library driver called gtty
L470[16:53:54] <S3> fierst thing I
implemented for control codes was bell
L471[16:54:03] <bauen1> yes
L472[16:54:04] <S3> It's easy to do and a
good test
L473[16:54:15] <S3> I had it before I even
did carriage return or line feed :D
L474[16:54:48] <bauen1> it supports the
most common ansi control codes for color, cursor movement, clearing
the screen in various ways, report cursor position
L475[16:55:31] <S3> I actually like gtty
quite a lot so far even though its unfinished because it tokenizes
every string being printed into tokens of contrrol characters and
strings
L476[16:55:39] <S3> print itself doesn't
handle control chars at all
L477[16:56:00] <S3> it only works with
printable strongs and recursively breaks them down until there is
nothing left to print
L478[16:56:27] <The_Stargazer> threads are amazing
<The_Stargazer> threads are amazingL479[16:56:29] <S3> The one thing I wish
it had was some sort of way to remember a framebuffer for task
switching or scrolling
L480[16:56:34] <The_Stargazer> i can run two gui libs at
once
<The_Stargazer> i can run two gui libs at
onceL481[16:56:40] <The_Stargazer> (`charts` and
`forms`)
<The_Stargazer> (`charts` and
`forms`)L482[16:57:08] <bauen1> i could probably
implement a virtual consoles program
L483[16:57:14] <S3> hehe
L484[16:57:27] <S3> I decided to roll my
own processing scheduler ideas into Trotwood, it uses the actor
model
L485[16:57:43] <S3> its all about message
passing
L486[16:59:49] <S3> The only thing that
REALLY pisses me off is that Lua handles tables by reference
L487[16:59:53] <S3> it makes things really
annoying
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L489[17:00:46] *
Lizzy sighs
L490[17:01:01] <Lizzy> damn neir crashed
on me whilst i was playing it
L491[17:01:28] <S3> Whatchya playin
L492[17:01:45] <Lizzy> also i can't
spell
L493[17:01:51] <Lizzy> I was playing Nier
Automata
L494[17:02:02] <Lizzy> until i hit a
puddle and it crashed
L495[17:04:00] <AdorableCatgirl> S3: i have too many
projects too
<AdorableCatgirl> S3: i have too many
projects tooL496[17:04:11] <AdorableCatgirl> good thing i'm also
helping izaya with about nothing but a few things
<AdorableCatgirl> good thing i'm also
helping izaya with about nothing but a few thingsL497[17:04:23] <Lizzy> also huh, the new
steam library stuff seems to show games i own and free games i've
played but don't have installed i think
L498[17:04:31] <AdorableCatgirl> i hate the new steam
thing
<AdorableCatgirl> i hate the new steam
thingL499[17:04:33] <AdorableCatgirl> my E Y E S
<AdorableCatgirl> my E Y E SL500[17:04:53] <Lizzy> that or i just
don't remember half the games i have
L501[17:08:03] <bauen1> Lizzy: it does
(finally i actually know which games i started playing and then
uninstall due to disk space)
L502[17:13:54] <bauen1> i'm currently
debating how i should handle <file/buffer>:read(0) and handle
timeouts and allow waiting on multiple handles (files, sockets,
etc...) at the same time
L503[17:14:11] <bauen1> this
"simple" solution turned into a mess really quickly
L504[17:16:37] <Caitlyn> uuuugh so
tired.
L505[17:16:44] <Caitlyn> and ~2 hours of
work left q_q
L506[17:16:53] <Forecaster>
:/
<Forecaster>
:/L507[17:16:58] *
Lizzy radiates some energy towards Caitlyn
L508[17:21:49] <Inari> AmandaC: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/309526717398122496/639890348310790147/74693528_3044252088923609_4878199725670531072_n.png?width=702&height=702
L509[17:26:32] <AdorableCatgirl> gotta get my S E N I O R
P I C T U R E taken
<AdorableCatgirl> gotta get my S E N I O R
P I C T U R E takenL510[17:26:41] <AdorableCatgirl> with my fucking pothead
hair
<AdorableCatgirl> with my fucking pothead
hairL511[17:28:51] <Forecaster>
invest in hairspray
<Forecaster>
invest in hairsprayL512[17:32:18] <S3> why bothe
L513[17:32:19] <S3> bother*
L514[17:32:30] <S3> if she's a pothead
then she should look like a pothead
L515[17:32:45] <S3> that way everyone who
looks at the yearbooks goes, "oh hey look that was that cool
pothead we knew"
L516[17:33:15] <Forecaster>
okay...
<Forecaster>
okay...L517[17:39:53] <S3> the point of that
Forecaster is for them to be themselves
L518[17:39:57] <S3> if that's the way they
like their hair
L519[17:41:09] <Forecaster>
well it sounded like they didn't want it, hence my suggestion
<Forecaster>
well it sounded like they didn't want it, hence my suggestionL520[17:43:38] <Soni> [18:59] <S3>
The only thing that REALLY pisses me off is that Lua handles tables
by reference
L521[17:43:45] <Soni> t[t]=t
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L523[17:44:03] <Soni> do that in
python
L524[17:49:26] <AdorableCatgirl> B) *he also everyone
knows i'm a jackass
<AdorableCatgirl> B) *he also everyone
knows i'm a jackassL525[17:49:34] <AdorableCatgirl> my friend is doing my
portrait
<AdorableCatgirl> my friend is doing my
portraitL526[17:49:46] <AdorableCatgirl> she has a greenscreen and
everything
<AdorableCatgirl> she has a greenscreen and
everythingL527[17:51:01] <baschdel> S3,Soni: To be
honest I like that tables are handled by reference but what I don't
like is, that I always have to write the table.copy() myself
L528[17:51:18] <Soni> you don't
L529[17:51:27] <Soni> there's a 260-byte
oneliner
L530[17:51:38] <Soni> deep, shallow,
everything
L531[17:51:52] <AdorableCatgirl> ok
<AdorableCatgirl> okL532[17:52:13] <Soni> https://gist.github.com/SoniEx2/fc5d3614614e4e3fe131
L533[17:54:42] <AdorableCatgirl> ok
<AdorableCatgirl> okL534[17:56:25] ⇦
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L535[17:57:20] <bauen1> if you combined a
bit of assembly boot code, a network driver, lua and eris (with the
debug yield patches) you could probably write a distributed
operating system that runs lua code
L536[17:57:53] <bauen1> it would need a c
compiler, linker and assembler written in lua to become
self-hosting though
L537[17:58:38] <bauen1> guess i'll add
that somewhere on my "interesting, somewhat-unrealistig
projects" list
L538[17:58:40] <AdorableCatgirl> anyways
<AdorableCatgirl> anywaysL539[17:58:49] <AdorableCatgirl> had my picture
taken
<AdorableCatgirl> had my picture
takenL540[17:58:55] <AdorableCatgirl> had to stop myself from
laughing
<AdorableCatgirl> had to stop myself from
laughingL541[17:59:24] <Soni> emscripten
emscripten into lua and emscripten a c compiler as well
L542[17:59:35] <Soni> :p
L543[17:59:59] <CompanionCube> bauen1: as
a intermediate step one could something like UEFI
L544[18:00:05] <AdorableCatgirl> my friend and her family
are great
<AdorableCatgirl> my friend and her family
are greatL545[18:34:18] ⇦
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L546[18:42:12] <Sketamine>
Has anybody made an OpenOS thingy for vs?
<Sketamine>
Has anybody made an OpenOS thingy for vs?L547[18:57:33] <AmandaC> Vscode has
sumneko.lua which works pretty well
L548[19:01:23] <Gopnik> Hey
im looking for a open comouter dev for a build project of mine if
your interested in this
<Gopnik> Hey
im looking for a open comouter dev for a build project of mine if
your interested in thisL549[19:01:24] <Gopnik>
https://www.reddit.com/r/MinecraftBuddies/comments/btv43q/java_if_your_a_builderprogrammeror_good_with/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
<Gopnik>
https://www.reddit.com/r/MinecraftBuddies/comments/btv43q/java_if_your_a_builderprogrammeror_good_with/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=shareL550[19:04:02] <AdorableCatgirl> why
<AdorableCatgirl> whyL551[19:04:14] <AdorableCatgirl> OpenComputers is all
about DIY
<AdorableCatgirl> OpenComputers is all
about DIYL552[19:05:57] <Gopnik>
Because im not a programmer
<Gopnik>
Because im not a programmerL553[19:06:06] <Gopnik>
Well not the best at all
<Gopnik>
Well not the best at allL554[19:08:49] <AdorableCatgirl> learn kotlin ez
<AdorableCatgirl> learn kotlin ezL555[19:09:20] <Gopnik> If
your not insterested thanks for your opinion. But in here for
someone elses help then
<Gopnik> If
your not insterested thanks for your opinion. But in here for
someone elses help thenL556[19:09:28] <Gopnik> If
your not insterested thanks for your opinion. But im here for
someone elses help then [Edited]
<Gopnik> If
your not insterested thanks for your opinion. But im here for
someone elses help then [Edited]L557[19:20:25] <AdorableCatgirl> nah so, i'm actually
serious
<AdorableCatgirl> nah so, i'm actually
seriousL558[19:20:29] <AdorableCatgirl> learn to program
yourself
<AdorableCatgirl> learn to program
yourselfL559[19:20:49] <AdorableCatgirl> it's not really that
difficult as long as you don't try to start with C or C++
<AdorableCatgirl> it's not really that
difficult as long as you don't try to start with C or C++L560[19:20:58] <AdorableCatgirl> ...or Java,
specifically.
<AdorableCatgirl> ...or Java,
specifically.L561[19:23:11] <AdorableCatgirl> learn kotlin
<AdorableCatgirl> learn kotlinL562[19:45:43]
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L565[19:48:59] <Sketamine>
Can anybody think of a stronger encryption for strings in lua than
just using a basic hash and replacing the letters
<Sketamine>
Can anybody think of a stronger encryption for strings in lua than
just using a basic hash and replacing the lettersL566[19:49:09] <Sketamine>
because that can be reversed way too easily
<Sketamine>
because that can be reversed way too easilyL567[19:54:23] <AdorableCatgirl> what
<AdorableCatgirl> whatL568[19:56:26] <Izaya> actual
encryption
L569[19:56:40] <Izaya> there's libs for
chacha20 and (probably) AES256
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L571[20:14:24] <ben_mkiv> isnt that the
purpose of the data card?
L572[20:14:31] <ben_mkiv> to provide
aes256 / 384
L573[20:20:38] <Soni> the data card is
kinda bad for that purpose as it's completely unspecified what aes
and mode it uses
L574[20:21:05] <Soni> also there's no
aes384, you're mixing it up with sha384
L575[20:23:03] <Caitlyn> https://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/api/javax/crypto/Cipher.html
"AES/CBC/PKCS5Padding"
L576[20:26:55] <A_D> apparently tick
accelerators work on OC cases. Welp.
L577[20:27:08] <A_D> Soni: Its almost
always going to be CBC.
L578[20:29:25] <A_D> also, use a simple
cipher
L579[20:29:35] <A_D> substitution ciphers
are fun
L580[20:29:41] <AdorableCatgirl> icekey exists
<AdorableCatgirl> icekey existsL581[20:32:27] ⇦
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L582[20:33:48] <Soni> A_D: so can you use
it to build up the other cipher modes
L583[20:34:20] <A_D> Soni: If you really
want the ability to build your own ciphers like that, why not write
an addon mod
L584[20:34:33] <Soni> *sigh*
L585[20:34:37] <A_D> because doing it in
lua will ALWAYS be slow
L586[20:34:53] <A_D> not to mention that
if you REALLY want to do it in lua, nothing is stopping you from
implementing ECB and working up
L587[20:34:59] <A_D> you have everything
that is needed.
L588[20:35:04] <Soni> honestly, for the
same reason I wish TLS primitives were available
L589[20:35:13] <A_D> Write an addon
mod
L590[20:35:26] <Soni> pure lua tls
now
L591[20:35:37] <A_D> Which would be both
insecure and slow
L592[20:35:39] <Soni> so you can use tls
for irc
L593[20:35:51] <Soni> A_D: with java
primitives
L594[20:35:51] <A_D> Use a local
proxu
L595[20:35:54] <A_D> proxy*
L596[20:36:01] <A_D> oh okay, java
primitives, hmm
L597[20:36:08] <A_D> what could that
possibly be abused for
L598[20:36:12] <A_D> whats the coiny
thing>?
L599[20:36:15] <A_D> bitmoney?
L600[20:36:18] <A_D> coin bit?
L601[20:36:22] <A_D> mining uses aes
L602[20:36:25] <Soni> *sigh* I'm not gonna
argue with you because you'll never understand this stuff
L603[20:36:28] <A_D> you could take down a
server.
L604[20:36:29] <Soni> uh
L605[20:36:36] <Soni> we already have
sha2
L606[20:36:40] <A_D> ...I understand AES
and TLS fine, thank you
L607[20:37:17] <Soni> mining uses sha2 and
ed25519
L608[20:37:18] <A_D> yes, and sha2 is
significantly less expensive than aes
L609[20:37:21] <A_D> and no, it
doesnt.
L610[20:37:27] <A_D> Bitcoin is aes
based
L611[20:37:29] <Soni> aes is cheap
af
L612[20:37:36] <A_D> No, AES on NEW procs
is cheap.
L613[20:37:40] <A_D> not old ones
L614[20:37:46] <Soni> bitcoin is ed25519
based
L615[20:37:48] <A_D> AES instructions are
relatively new
L616[20:38:04] <Soni> public key crypto,
not symmetric
L617[20:38:25] <Soni> RSA is the expensive
one
L618[20:39:06] <Soni> AES can handle multi
megabytes per second on a relatively old Core i5-3330
L619[20:39:33] <A_D> OpenEncryption
L620[20:39:11] <A_D> derp. Anyway, they're
all a bit more than what is in scope for OC
L621[20:39:20] <A_D> an addon mod would
work great for that
L622[20:41:50] <Soni> *sigh*
L623[20:41:56] <Soni> [22:36] <Soni>
*sigh* I'm not gonna argue with you because you'll never understand
this stuff
L624[20:42:05] <A_D> ...Why exactly wont
an addon work?
L625[20:42:22] <Soni> because it needs to
be in scope for OC
L626[20:42:33] <A_D> I don't think thats
your call to make
L627[20:42:35] <Soni> for it to be
effective
L628[20:42:47] <A_D> ...how exactly is an
addon mod ineffective?
L629[20:43:12] <Soni> the built-in IRC
disk won't support such addon
L630[20:43:18] <A_D> your point?
L631[20:43:23] <A_D> add your own disk in
your addon mod
L632[20:43:29] <Paradoxical> well, if it won't just make a
new one >.>
<Paradoxical> well, if it won't just make a
new one >.>L633[20:43:40] <Soni> if you don't see the
issue...
L634[20:43:44] <Soni> *sigh*
L635[20:43:57] <A_D> I think you're
overblowing an issue
L636[20:44:39] <A_D> if you're concerned
about security for other users, those users should understand it
anyway, they're programmers after all
L637[20:44:55] <Soni> why do we have
built-in HTTPS but not TLS over TCP
L638[20:45:27] <A_D> Because HTTPs was
added and TLS for TCP stuff wasnt?
L639[20:45:51] <Soni> I still think those
should be unified
L640[20:46:28] <Soni> TLS for TCP wasn't
added because devs didn't wanna implement socket wrapping
L641[20:46:41] <Soni> but they don't wanna
give ppl primitives either
L642[20:46:44] <A_D> understandably. Done
incorrectly it makes a mess.
L643[20:47:06] <A_D> hmm... if only there
was some way of modifying opencomputers without having the dev's
permission
L644[20:47:08] <Soni> primitives would've
worked just as well
L645[20:47:15] <A_D> I wonder if some sort
of add on could be created to do that
L646[20:47:18] <AdorableCatgirl> I MADE AN ENCRYPTION
METHOD
<AdorableCatgirl> I MADE AN ENCRYPTION
METHODL647[20:47:19] <AdorableCatgirl> IN LUA
<AdorableCatgirl> IN LUAL648[20:47:19] <MichiBot> Lua*
L649[20:47:23] <AdorableCatgirl> THAT'S DECENTLY
FAST
<AdorableCatgirl> THAT'S DECENTLY
FASTL650[20:47:25] <Soni> (or even
better)
L652[20:48:20] <Soni> anyway there's still
an open issue about it
L653[20:48:28] <Soni> go talk there
L654[20:49:15] <AdorableCatgirl> what
<AdorableCatgirl> whatL655[20:49:18] <Soni> you need no socket
wrapping if ppl just have primitives
L656[20:49:34] <AdorableCatgirl> ok
<AdorableCatgirl> okL657[20:49:44] <AdorableCatgirl> but >bloat
<AdorableCatgirl> but >bloatL658[20:49:54] <Soni> bonus points if you
also mount a CA store
L659[20:50:05] <AdorableCatgirl> oh and >more
libs
<AdorableCatgirl> oh and >more
libsL660[20:50:18] <A_D> ohgod a dep on
openssl
L661[20:50:29] <Soni> also it can be used
between OC computers
L662[20:50:32] <Soni> what
L663[20:50:36] <Soni> no, just java
L664[20:51:00] <Soni> besides, ppl use
mozilla's CA store
L665[20:51:01] <A_D> but I;d want openssl
based encryption
L666[20:51:26] <Soni> ... java provides
literally the same things
L667[20:51:35] <A_D> what if I don't trust
the java implementation to be as robust?
L668[20:52:05] <Soni> then don't use
HTTPS, which is also java provided!
L669[20:52:25] <A_D> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ you missed
my point, well done
L670[20:52:27] <Soni> write your own HTTPS
on top of the TCP API
L671[20:52:43] <AdorableCatgirl> anyways why the fuck you
need it
<AdorableCatgirl> anyways why the fuck you
need itL672[20:52:54] <A_D> they want secure IRC,
was an example
L673[20:52:59] <A_D> if only there was
some sort of software
L674[20:53:04] <A_D> that could bounce IRC
connections
L675[20:53:05] <AdorableCatgirl> if it's in OC shit
<AdorableCatgirl> if it's in OC shitL676[20:53:11] <AdorableCatgirl> hmm
<AdorableCatgirl> hmmL677[20:53:10] <AdorableCatgirl> use
<AdorableCatgirl> useL678[20:53:13] <AdorableCatgirl> i dunno
<AdorableCatgirl> i dunnoL679[20:53:28] <Soni> also, having some
sort of TLS or primitives beats my suggestion of hardcoding the TLS
impl for a specific server at a specific point in time
L680[20:53:24] <A_D> lol
L681[20:53:19] <AdorableCatgirl> icekey
<AdorableCatgirl> icekeyL682[20:53:49] <AdorableCatgirl> ok
<AdorableCatgirl> okL683[20:53:45] <A_D> And opens OC up to
numerous possible security vulns
L684[20:54:31] <Soni> if you figure out
how to exploit cryptographic primitives let me know
L685[20:54:45] <AdorableCatgirl> all i'm saying is
<AdorableCatgirl> all i'm saying isL686[20:54:48] <A_D> ...who said anything
about the primitives?
L687[20:54:59] <A_D> If the glue code has
an issue its alsoa problem
L688[20:55:00] <AdorableCatgirl> icekey works fine in the
scope of OC
<AdorableCatgirl> icekey works fine in the
scope of OCL689[20:55:18] <Soni> the glue code is
user-provided lua
L690[20:55:26] <Soni> oc just does
primitives
L691[20:55:37] <A_D> ...no, there must be
glue to connect the primitives to OC
L692[20:55:42] <Soni> oh
L693[20:55:50] <Izaya> on the subject of
crypto
L694[20:55:53] <Soni> well they're
implemented in java
L695[20:56:01] <A_D> and that magically
makes them secure?
L696[20:56:02] <Izaya> did I miss anyone
posting a compact SHA-1 lib?
L697[20:56:04] <A_D> or safe?
L698[20:56:09] <Soni> yes, yes it
does
L699[20:56:11] <A_D> Izaya: I don't think
so
L700[20:56:22] <A_D> BREAKING NEWS! All
code written in java is 100% secure
L701[20:56:23] <Soni> in this case it
does
L702[20:56:32] <A_D> openssl to
reimplement immediately
L703[20:56:34] <Izaya> remember
L704[20:56:37] <AdorableCatgirl> anyways
<AdorableCatgirl> anywaysL705[20:56:39] <Izaya> all haskell code
has no side effects
L706[20:56:42] <Izaya> as nobody will ever
run it
L707[20:56:54] <A_D> Izaya: nono they're
just all concentrated to that one computer in the US
L708[20:57:00] <AdorableCatgirl> :^)
<AdorableCatgirl> :^)L709[20:57:19] <Izaya> https://pastebin.com/a8vqXFVU
L710[20:57:25] <AdorableCatgirl> anyways, fuck off with
ssl shit, use icekey
<AdorableCatgirl> anyways, fuck off with
ssl shit, use icekeyL711[20:57:25] <Izaya> we TOTP soon
L712[20:57:52] <Soni> the only really
unsafe java APIs I know of involve the OS
L713[20:58:07] <Soni> stuff like I/O and
GUIs, mostly
L714[20:58:21] <AdorableCatgirl> ok then
<AdorableCatgirl> ok thenL715[20:58:22] <A_D> Define unsafe. You're
talking to a bunch of programmers. Unsafe has about ten different
definitions.
L716[20:58:28] <Soni> basically anything
that isn't just math
L717[20:58:59] <Soni> unsafe as in
"buffer overrun, underrun, ace, rce, etc"
L718[20:59:05] <A_D> So insecure.
L719[20:59:12] <Soni> not
"side-channel key leakage"
L720[20:59:41] <Soni> (in OC, nobody
cares, the server is a bigger threat than hypothetical
attackers)
L721[21:00:01] <A_D> [citation
needed]
L722[21:00:04] <AdorableCatgirl> what
<AdorableCatgirl> whatL723[21:00:24] <AdorableCatgirl> Soni: what the fuck does
that even mean
<AdorableCatgirl> Soni: what the fuck does
that even meanL724[21:00:32] <Soni> I'd never type my
gmail password on an OC computer in a server
L725[21:00:48] <Izaya> so your definition
of safe is essentially memory-safe
L726[21:00:55] <AdorableCatgirl> weLL NO SHIT
SHERLOCK
<AdorableCatgirl> weLL NO SHIT
SHERLOCKL727[21:00:56] <A_D> AdorableCatgirl:
hypervisor argument, I think
L728[21:01:07] <A_D> Izaya: that was why I
asked the question
L729[21:01:07] *
Izaya holds up a "rewrite it in rust" sign
L730[21:01:15] <A_D> also Soni, memory
safety does not secure code make
L731[21:01:21] <AdorableCatgirl> rust lol
<AdorableCatgirl> rust lolL732[21:01:31] <A_D> you can write
perfectly memory safe code that still has giant gaping holes.
L733[21:01:41] <Soni> you won't pwn a
Minecraft server with cryptographic primitives
L734[21:01:48] <A_D> ...seriously?
L735[21:01:55] <A_D> you're coming from a
security standpoint
L736[21:01:55] <Izaya> ... because they're
just maths?
L737[21:01:57] <A_D> and you say that
shit?
L738[21:02:12] <A_D> first rule of
defensive programming. You're already compromised. Mitigate.
L739[21:02:13] <Soni> try it
yourself
L740[21:02:19] <Soni> let me know if you
succeed
L741[21:02:43] <Soni> yeah, by the server
admin
L742[21:02:43] <A_D> Just because I can't
do it doesn't meant its 1, not something to be concerned about, and
2, something to be ignored
L743[21:02:47] <Izaya> fuck me
L744[21:02:55] <Izaya> >TOTP
implementations MAY use HMAC-SHA-256 or HMAC-SHA-512
functions,
L745[21:02:57] <Izaya> based on SHA-256 or
SHA-512
L746[21:03:02] <A_D> lol have fun
Izaya
L747[21:03:12] <Izaya> no I mean I already
had a sha256 lib
L748[21:03:22] <Soni> HMAC is easy
L749[21:03:32] <A_D> Izaya: just glue two
together and bam! sha512
L750[21:03:38] <Izaya> like
L751[21:03:38] <A_D> thats how this works,
right?
L752[21:03:45] <Izaya> I didn't even need
to think about sha1
L753[21:03:51] <Soni> *sigh*
L754[21:05:04] <AdorableCatgirl> Izaya: when are we
getting secure minitel
<AdorableCatgirl> Izaya: when are we
getting secure minitelL755[21:05:18] <Izaya> like
L756[21:05:19] <Izaya> eventually
L757[21:05:21] <Izaya> maybe
L758[21:05:29] <AdorableCatgirl> i will fucking jank
it
<AdorableCatgirl> i will fucking jank
itL759[21:05:38] <Izaya> consider:
L760[21:05:44] <Izaya> a library which
wraps socket objects
L761[21:05:56] <AdorableCatgirl> >wrapping
<AdorableCatgirl> >wrappingL762[21:06:03] <AdorableCatgirl> i was gonna use icekey
lmao
<AdorableCatgirl> i was gonna use icekey
lmaoL763[21:06:13] <Soni> I hope they're not a
network admin
L764[21:07:05] <AdorableCatgirl> well i know enough about
security to not trust you lmao
<AdorableCatgirl> well i know enough about
security to not trust you lmaoL765[21:07:13] <Izaya> AdorableCatgirl: I
mean, the idea would just be to have an ez-to-use library which
does pubkey caching and presents something that acts like a
socket
L766[21:07:26] <AdorableCatgirl> fair, fair
<AdorableCatgirl> fair, fairL767[21:07:35] <Izaya> bonus points for
something you can abuse to force applications to use said secure
sockets
L768[21:07:56] <A_D> proxy could be fun
for that actually
L769[21:08:11] <A_D> bounce all networking
from a machine though a proxy, and suddenly, secure tunnel
L770[21:08:20] <Soni> hm, unix-like
sockets would be cool
L771[21:09:03] <Izaya> A_D: vtunnel, but
with a socket that is actually over a secure minitel socket rather
than TCP
L772[21:09:25] <AdorableCatgirl> i'll put something
together w/ icekey for now, but ofc it's symmetric
<AdorableCatgirl> i'll put something
together w/ icekey for now, but ofc it's symmetricL773[21:10:29] <Izaya> pre-shared key
secured sockets, not terrible
L774[21:10:42] <Izaya> hey here's a
terrible idea for ya
L775[21:10:43] <AdorableCatgirl> not great but
<AdorableCatgirl> not great butL776[21:10:53] <Izaya> have per-host
keys
L777[21:10:56] <Izaya> right
L778[21:11:02] <Izaya> or maybe even
per-connection keys
L779[21:11:08] <Izaya> and if it has
that
L780[21:11:14] <Izaya> it sends all the
traffic as a different packet type
L781[21:11:27] <Izaya> which is just a
clone of the usual 3 packet types, but encrypted
L782[21:12:15] <AdorableCatgirl> o h
<AdorableCatgirl> o hL783[21:35:01]
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L784[21:35:03] <S3_> huh
L785[21:35:12] <S3_> I have literally
nothing to do
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L787[21:45:36] <Ariri>
%tonk
<Ariri>
%tonkL788[21:45:37] <MichiBot> Goshhawk! Ariri!
You beat Forecaster's previous record of 6 hours, 22 minutes and 15
seconds (By 1 minute and 50 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L789[21:45:38] <MichiBot> Ariri's new
record is 6 hours, 24 minutes and 6 seconds! Ariri also gained
0.00021 (0.00003 x 7) tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L790[22:01:14] <S3_> %js
Array(16).join("wat" - 1) + " Batman!"
L791[22:01:16] <MichiBot>
NaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaN Batman!
L792[22:08:07] <Ariri> heh
L793[22:11:23] <Ariri> test msg
L794[22:45:32] <S3_> test msg?
L795[23:31:20] <Ariri> test
msg
<Ariri> test
msgL796[23:38:49] <Izaya> the only thing I
don't have an appropriate cover for is MultiMC in my Steam
library
L797[23:38:51] <Izaya> good stuff
L798[23:38:58] <Izaya> oh, and Skyrim
Script Extender
L799[23:39:15] <Izaya> though, I don't
actually have Skyrim installed.
L800[23:43:13] <ben_mkiv> you can add
custom apps to steam?
L801[23:43:41] <ben_mkiv> nvm, yes
L802[23:45:29] <Izaya> https://imgur.com/pT4I4Ne.png
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