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L1[00:01:37] <CompanionCube> ENOENT
L2[00:22:41] <Ocawesome101> %tonkout
L3[00:22:41] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Ocawesome101, you were not able to beat CompanionCube's record of 4 hours, 56 minutes and 31 seconds this time. 36 minutes and 55 seconds were wasted! Missed by 4 hours, 19 minutes and 35 seconds!
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L13[02:27:47] <bauen1> %tonk
L14[02:27:47] <MichiBot> I'm sorry bauen1, you were not able to beat CompanionCube's record of 4 hours, 56 minutes and 31 seconds this time. 2 hours, 5 minutes and 6 seconds were wasted! Missed by 2 hours, 51 minutes and 24 seconds!
L15[02:28:20] <bauen1> so we're in for the long run
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L23[02:45:30] <Forecaster> psh, 4 hours is nothing
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L28[02:51:05] <kogtyv> hey
L29[02:51:17] <kogtyv> ludi
L30[02:51:26] <Forecaster> %hello
L31[02:51:26] <MichiBot> Forecaster: Hello! Welcome to #oc! The one and only opencomputers channel! Please ask your questions directly (dont ask to ask) and provide error/code examples! (Use pastebin.com if theyre more than one line!) Dont mind the random conversation you might have walked into.
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L36[03:05:18] <Yuuki> the heck is tonk
L37[03:06:49] <Forecaster> https://michibot.pc-logix.com/tonk
L38[03:07:30] <Izaya> >1.6
L39[03:07:32] <Izaya> oi nah
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L41[03:28:59] <bauen1> lua doesn't exactly have a nice way of returning an error from an iterator function than calling error() right ?
L42[03:32:43] <bauen1> i guess i could do 'return false, "error"' to handle errors and after that 'return nil'
L43[03:46:35] <Forecaster> yep
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L45[03:55:24] <MasterHacker> hello everyone, again
L46[03:55:39] <Forecaster> hi
L47[03:56:03] <MasterHacker> i installed MineOS on pc, and i have question
L48[03:56:14] <MasterHacker> Can i download from internet another Apps?
L49[03:56:22] <MasterHacker> for MineOS
L50[03:56:30] <Forecaster> I don't use mineos
L51[03:56:44] <MasterHacker> So you don`t know?
L52[03:56:53] <Forecaster> correct
L53[03:57:03] <MasterHacker> uh, it`s bad, but ok
L54[03:58:06] <MasterHacker> When Update come for this mode? Soon?
L55[03:58:16] <Forecaster> dunno
L56[03:58:26] <Forecaster> payonel has been busy
L57[03:58:41] <MasterHacker> k
L58[03:58:55] <Inari> It's called a mod
L59[03:58:57] <Inari> Not a mode :p
L60[04:00:19] <MasterHacker> How you can see my English not best so i have few er
L61[04:00:25] <MasterHacker> fails in words
L62[04:00:40] <Inari> Sure
L63[04:00:45] <Inari> But by learning you can imrpove that
L64[04:00:45] <Inari> :p
L65[04:01:39] <Forecaster> "imrpove"
L66[04:02:16] <MasterHacker> I learn English in Practice cuz it`s more effective than studying.
L67[04:02:30] <Forecaster> %sip
L68[04:02:30] <MichiBot> You drink a salty dilithium potion (New!). Forecaster remembers an important appointment.
L69[04:03:15] <MasterHacker> And, if you interesting with this question, i from Ukraine
L70[04:04:04] <Inari> MasterHacker: Sure, so in practice, you'll want to write mod, not mode
L71[04:04:19] <Inari> It's mostly the short form of "modification" since a mod modifies the game
L72[04:04:47] <Izaya> GUI software: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1571562101264.jpg
L73[04:05:38] <MasterHacker> K, i will know
L74[04:05:39] <MasterHacker> tnx
L75[04:06:02] <Inari> Izaya: Thats a lot of MSG
L76[04:06:15] <Izaya> can't be good for your health
L77[04:06:59] <MasterHacker> What if i put 3 videocards in PC?
L78[04:07:06] <MasterHacker> in mod
L79[04:07:21] <Izaya> under OpenOS, only one will be actively used :D
L80[04:07:30] <Forecaster> wont really do anything unless you know what to do with them
L81[04:08:20] <MasterHacker> No, not in OpenOS
L82[04:08:26] <MasterHacker> in MineOS it`s helping or wat?
L83[04:08:31] <Izaya> still in OpenOS, then
L84[04:08:33] <MasterHacker> (i specially write wat)
L85[04:08:47] <MasterHacker> k
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L88[04:15:57] <Bob> multiple cards don't split the work between them
L89[04:16:07] <MasterHacker> it`s really sad
L90[04:16:11] <Bob> and OC CPUs are signlethreaded
L91[04:16:12] <Bob> no why
L92[04:16:16] <MasterHacker> cuz MineOS so luggy
L93[04:16:19] <Bob> 1 T3 GPU is ultrapowerfull
L94[04:16:33] <Bob> MineOS is hella garbage
L95[04:16:38] <MasterHacker> rly>
L96[04:16:40] <MasterHacker> ?
L97[04:16:43] <Bob> it"s for vanity lmao
L98[04:16:51] <Bob> you can't do much with it
L99[04:17:12] <Bob> OpenOS + handwritten programs do the job perfectly
L100[04:17:57] <Forecaster> just make sure not to write your programs in cursive, or the computer wont be able to read them
L101[04:18:05] <MasterHacker> k
L102[04:18:06] <MasterHacker> tnx
L103[04:18:32] <Bob> wa
L104[04:18:46] <Bob> i make python recognize my handwritten hieroglyphs
L105[04:18:50] <Bob> its its only use
L106[04:19:32] <MasterHacker> wait i`m need to restart site
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L109[04:25:51] <MasterHacker4> i`m here
L110[04:29:25] <Forecaster> or are you
L111[04:31:07] <Bob> hey vsauce, Michael here
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L113[05:55:53] <bauen1> making some more progress with my pipes operating system: https://i.imgur.com/4ZlMpQx.png "modem_test2 is a programm that runs '/bin/ls.lua /dev' with a pipe as stdout and broadcasts the output over the network (source code left pane)'
L114[05:56:17] <bauen1> and the openos on the bottom-right is listening for the broadcasts
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L116[07:29:24] <Forecaster> %tonk
L117[07:29:24] <MichiBot> Consarn it! Forecaster! You beat CompanionCube's previous record of 4 hours, 56 minutes and 31 seconds (By 5 minutes and 5 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L118[07:29:25] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 5 hours, 1 minute and 36 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.0004 (0.00008 x 5) tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L119[08:10:00] <Lizzy> haha! got my swap encrypted on my laptop and resume works
L120[08:10:23] <Izaya> I really need to make resume work
L121[08:11:31] <Izaya> I set up swap and hibernate but never actually bothered with resume
L122[08:11:32] * Lizzy now just needs to see if she can make her yubikey able to unlock her laptop drive in some way and then also look into getting some form of VPN stuff set up
L123[08:11:51] <stephan48> did you hav to configure anything in particular for encrypted swap=
L124[08:12:15] <stephan48> for me in debian it just worked :D (lvm on luks; lvm contains root and swap)
L125[08:12:51] <Lizzy> i had to do a little bit of configuring, but mainly just adding a hook to the initpcio config
L126[08:13:19] <Lizzy> I also set up a keyfile for it so that once i unlock the root partition, it'll be able to unlock the swap automagically
L127[08:13:52] <stephan48> ah two crypto devices, yea then some magic is needed
L128[08:18:08] <Forecaster> Sigh, I can't wait to get my new harddrive so I can reinstall
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L130[08:18:26] <Forecaster> And hopefully get rid of this stupid network issue
L131[08:21:41] <Forecaster> It's so annoying to just lose network access for anything not using ipv6 randomly...
L132[08:46:36] <Lizzy> woop, got my yubikey set up as a "convenience" method for unlocking my root drive
L133[08:47:08] <AdorableCatgirl> i'm werking on setting up a raspi
L134[08:56:15] * Lizzy has just bought some stuff for her Pi
L135[08:58:00] * bauen1 is looking at the always free tiers of multiple IaaS providers to avoid buying a Pi
L136[08:58:18] <Lizzy> now, lets see if i can quickly set up a vpn for me to use on linux
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L138[09:05:02] <Lizzy> think i'ma just go with Softether since i already have that set up
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L140[09:18:52] <AdorableCatgirl> i mean my raspi as a security device lmao
L141[09:20:47] <Forecaster> sigh, rebooting fixes it, but restarting the network device doesn't, I have no idea why it does this
L142[09:20:49] <Forecaster> :|
L143[09:22:01] <bauen1> @Forecaster maybe something is messing with 'ip rule' ?
L144[09:22:20] <Forecaster> I have a ghost, then
L145[09:23:29] <benny__> https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/609/640/75f.jpg
L146[09:27:43] <Forecaster> plus this is my main system, so, windows
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L148[10:27:37] <FeherNeoH> @Forecaster something sending "drop address" packets?
L149[10:30:10] <Forecaster> wut
L150[10:31:07] <FeherNeoH> I have seen some cases at home when randomly EVERY device drops their DHCP-assigned IPv4 addresses
L151[10:31:34] <FeherNeoH> lease time is usually longer than the interval between the address drops
L152[10:31:34] <Forecaster> it's just my main computer though, everything else works fine
L153[10:32:10] <FeherNeoH> doesn't an `ipconfig /renew` help?
L154[10:32:28] <Forecaster> haven't tried, I'll do that next time
L155[10:32:30] <FeherNeoH> if it does, you could just do that from a script every time the gateway cannot be pinged
L156[10:32:55] <Forecaster> all I know is a reboot fixes it, or it fixes itself after like an hour or something
L157[11:01:42] <Lizzy> %tonk
L158[11:01:42] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Lizzy, you were not able to beat Forecaster's record of 5 hours, 1 minute and 36 seconds this time. 3 hours, 32 minutes and 18 seconds were wasted! Missed by 1 hour, 29 minutes and 18 seconds!
L159[11:01:52] <Lizzy> Aw damn
L160[11:07:10] <Ariri> Might hook up a pi zero w to my Tesla when I get it for sentry mode and slave an old Samsung for a hud if I need
L161[11:09:25] <Ariri> Anyone know a good website/graph thing I could host myself to retrieve data from an api every second or minute? I’ve only found paid ones hosted by others
L162[11:10:42] <Inari> Elfi: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/309529094452936705/635501703172718612/FB_IMG_1571413700805.jpg ?
L163[11:17:07] <Elfi> What about it? :o
L164[11:17:13] * Elfi perches on Lizzy's head c:
L165[11:20:37] <Forecaster> @Ariri dropbox? :P
L166[11:21:48] <Ariri> Dropbox does website stuff :?
L167[11:22:49] <Ariri> oh
L168[11:22:52] <Ariri> DropPages
L169[11:23:49] <Ariri> Do you know if i could run a constant json script on it?
L170[11:24:49] <Ariri> Dropbox does website stuff :? @Forecaster [Edited]
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L172[11:31:29] <Lizzy> _purrs softly_
L173[11:31:32] <Lizzy> Oops
L174[11:39:50] * AmandaC builds a labrynnth to house Inari's lewds
L175[11:41:14] <Inari> Elfi: Minotaurs! :P Need to get you back into Tenia mood
L176[11:42:07] <AmandaC> but fae Elfi is best, cause she can cuddle up in my floof.
L177[11:42:50] <Elfi> You're fighting a losing battle, I've never felt so free like this~
L178[11:42:53] <Elfi> And pretty. very pretty c:
L179[11:42:55] * Elfi flutters~
L180[11:43:06] * AmandaC cuddles up on her pillow
L181[11:54:21] <Forecaster> @Ariri what is a "json script"? also no
L182[11:58:42] <Ariri> @Forecaster I don’t know the proper term but i mean a recurring fetch using json with api data so i can make graphs
L183[11:58:42] <Ariri> Basically, i want to make a graph of my driving data (speed/distance/etc) compared to battery level
L184[11:59:34] <Forecaster> no, it can provide static html pages at best :P
L185[12:00:19] <Forecaster> why not just draw a graph locally
L186[12:07:17] <Ariri> i’m not sure how i would go about doing that simply and being able to remote access
L187[12:08:05] <Ariri> i also tend to over complicate things :/
L188[12:08:19] <Forecaster> I can tell :P
L189[12:08:33] <Ariri> hey
L190[12:08:36] <Forecaster> I don't know what benefit calling an external server just to draw a graph would bring
L191[12:09:00] <Ariri> so i could see it remotely? or do you mean using an api
L192[12:09:49] <Forecaster> oh you meant you want to send the data to the server and store it there, and then be able to go to a page to view a graph
L193[12:09:57] <Ariri> Yeah
L194[12:10:10] <Ariri> Because it doesn’t store itself
L195[12:10:26] <Ariri> Well the car sort of does but not as detailed or long term
L196[12:11:07] <Forecaster> oh, I thought you were talking about OC xD
L197[12:11:49] <Ariri> No XD
L198[12:11:50] <Ariri> Perhaps I should’ve clarified haha
L199[12:12:19] <Forecaster> well, you're gonna need a proper webserver probably
L200[12:12:35] <Forecaster> I doubt you'll find something free that can do all of that
L201[12:12:53] <Forecaster> unless someone shares a bit of space with you
L202[12:13:10] <Ariri> Well I could host it on my old laptop or Onedrive
L203[12:13:31] <Ariri> And portforward
L204[12:13:34] <Forecaster> sure
L205[12:14:18] <Ariri> I was wondering if anyone here had done similar and knew a good program for constant data and graphs that I could self host
L206[12:14:31] <Ariri> I haven’t been able to find much along those lines
L207[12:15:48] <Forecaster> if the laptop is linux I'd suggest a (apache2+php) or python webserver, if windows then python
L208[12:16:27] <Ariri> I can dual-boot it, which would you recommend?
L209[12:17:26] <Forecaster> well, apache2+php is easier to get up and running, and slightly less fiddly to work with
L210[12:17:41] <Forecaster> python is more compact and a bit more powerful, but slightly more difficult
L211[12:18:04] <Ariri> Gotcha
L212[12:18:24] <Ariri> I’ll have a look at those two, thanks
L213[12:19:03] <Forecaster> well, on linux, getting php working on windows is a right pain
L214[12:19:56] <Ariri> Sounds like from what i’ve heard
L215[12:20:22] <Forecaster> yeah, I tried, it didn't go well, ended up giving up and used python instead
L216[12:21:00] <Ariri> Might be good then, i need more Python and Linux experience anyways
L217[12:21:28] <Forecaster> it was fiddly, because I had no idea what I was doing, but I built a webserver in it that did what I needed it to do
L218[12:22:47] <Ariri> Cool
L219[12:22:48] <Ariri> And yeah most of what I do is fiddle so I’ll see
L220[12:25:09] <Forecaster> if you are going with python, `BaseHTTPRequestHandler`
L221[12:29:50] <Ariri> Thanks
L222[12:35:59] <Yuuki> Hey guys, anyone have much experience with the GUI lib? https://github.com/IgorTimofeev/GUI
L223[12:36:01] <Yuuki> I'm trying to have a button inside a vertical list that can be modified by an "edit" button or something
L224[12:36:23] <Yuuki> Or maybe a context menu, but I can't seem to find how to do that for a single item instead of the entire list
L225[12:36:29] <Bob> i don't use his GUI lib, i don't know much people who do really
L226[12:36:47] <Yuuki> Oh really? What do people do normally? Just do their own thing?
L227[12:38:58] <Forecaster> mostly yes
L228[12:45:59] <Bob> Well ya i have my own lib
L229[12:46:03] <Bob> it simple and efficient
L230[12:46:07] <Bob> i need it to fit my need
L231[12:46:13] <Bob> as learning one lib like that would take too much time
L232[12:46:23] <Bob> and generally if i do scripts they have one task so i hardcode it
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L234[12:51:31] <Yuuki> I can't find anything about drawing a GUI in OC, anyone have any docs that I'm missing?
L235[12:51:53] <Forecaster> https://towerofawesome.org/oc_interface_designer/
L236[12:53:21] <Yuuki> Oh cool, ty
L237[12:55:05] <Yuuki> Oh so it is just using the GPU API, wasn't sure derp
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L239[13:21:00] <kogtyv> здарова Чипушили
L240[13:21:30] <AmandaC> kogtyv: you've been told multiple times to speak english in here.
L241[13:22:14] <kogtyv> а если я незнаю инглиш? i nemogy obshatsa po english
L242[13:22:56] <kogtyv> эй
L243[13:23:35] <AmandaC> Then go to the russian OC forums?
L244[13:24:32] <kogtyv> i Ucraine
L245[13:25:52] <kogtyv> ay
L246[13:26:09] <kogtyv> hey
L247[13:26:30] <Forecaster> or use a translator website or something
L248[13:27:26] <kogtyv> translator? what?
L249[13:27:40] <bauen1> kogtyv: https://translate.google.com/#view=home&op=translate&sl=auto&tl=en
L250[13:28:04] <kogtyv> ok
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L255[13:36:21] <kogtyv> hmmm...
L256[13:36:30] <kogtyv> 0Блоки и предметы
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L259[13:40:39] <kogtyv> плюди
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L261[13:41:56] <Yuuki> ...lol
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L263[13:42:42] <Bob> ¯\(ツ)/¯
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L265[13:58:15] <ba7888b72413a16a> eventually I will run wireworld cellular automata on my minecraft redstone computer
L266[13:58:35] <ba7888b72413a16a> https://www.quinapalus.com/wires11.html
L267[13:58:47] <ba7888b72413a16a> the wireworld computer is way too big to fit in the RAM though
L268[14:17:58] <bauen1> ba7888b72413a16a: just use what would normally be used as a harddrive (piston + block storage loop) and have it hold the cpu until it has loaded the value, it doesn't have to be fast, right ?
L269[14:19:06] <bauen1> ah they call that stuff "piston tape memory"
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L271[14:22:28] <martinshurtleff> hi
L272[14:22:43] <Forecaster> %hello
L273[14:22:43] <MichiBot> Forecaster: Hello! Welcome to #oc! The one and only opencomputers channel! Please ask your questions directly (dont ask to ask) and provide error/code examples! (Use pastebin.com if theyre more than one line!) Dont mind the random conversation you might have walked into.
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L275[14:23:14] <Forecaster> %bye
L276[14:23:14] <MichiBot> Forecaster: Oh, well, bye I guess...
L277[14:24:22] <ba7888b72413a16a> bauen1: I think I would have to swap out to an OC computer with redstone component
L278[14:24:25] <ba7888b72413a16a> to run the full computer
L279[14:24:30] <ba7888b72413a16a> it's like 60KiB
L280[14:26:59] <ba7888b72413a16a> hmm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxOD9xvUh-o
L281[14:27:00] <MichiBot> The biggest hard drive ever built in Minecraft (64 kb)! | length: 2m 31s | Likes: 8,595 Dislikes: 887 Views: 611,142 | by Dunkel Baum | Published On 20/11/2015
L282[14:27:13] <ba7888b72413a16a> looks like a hell of a lot of lag
L283[14:28:07] <Bob> >MC
L284[14:29:05] <ba7888b72413a16a> my computer has a maximum of 16384 bytes
L285[14:29:19] <ba7888b72413a16a> so it could probably run one component of the wireworld computer
L286[14:29:24] <bauen1> ba7888b72413a16a: add banks
L287[14:29:28] <bauen1> *memory banks
L288[14:29:50] <bauen1> also there is this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwCntln-Ukc stores information in a loop of repeaters
L289[14:29:51] <MichiBot> Minecraft 147 kilobytes of redstone memory | length: 6m 37s | Likes: 248 Dislikes: 43 Views: 34,688 | by bennyscube | Published On 12/2/2012
L290[14:29:52] <ba7888b72413a16a> yeah that's one thing I have planned
L291[14:30:14] <ba7888b72413a16a> but that won't expand it enormously
L292[14:30:20] <bauen1> i'm not sure if anyone even build a decoder for that thing (latency would be high)
L293[14:30:23] <ba7888b72413a16a> due to the laggy limits
L294[14:31:37] <ba7888b72413a16a> lol that's delay line memory
L295[14:32:05] <ba7888b72413a16a> if I had a fixed clock speed I could use delay line memory for wireworld or conway's GOL
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L297[14:32:13] <CompanionCube> whenever i see delay-line memory
L298[14:32:20] <CompanionCube> i always think of ICMP
L299[14:32:38] <ba7888b72413a16a> pingfs
L300[14:32:43] <ba7888b72413a16a> https://github.com/yarrick/pingfs
L301[14:35:19] <ba7888b72413a16a> my computer is 240 times slower than EDSAC on average
L302[14:35:25] <ba7888b72413a16a> but can do more per instruction cycle
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L304[14:40:07] <ba7888b72413a16a> https://i.imgur.com/XQobXT0.png
L305[14:41:00] <bauen1> nice
L306[14:41:36] <bauen1> also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Von_Neumann_universal_constructor looks very interesting (might however need even more ressources)
L307[14:42:08] <ba7888b72413a16a> oh yes I've seen that
L308[14:42:18] <bauen1> uh right your redstone computer won't handle that in this decade
L309[14:42:22] <ba7888b72413a16a> I think my favorite self replicating cellular automata is.. idk what it was called
L310[14:42:29] <ba7888b72413a16a> it's in GOLLY
L311[14:42:30] <bauen1> "A simulator running at 1,000 timesteps per second would take over 2 years to make the first copy."
L312[14:43:11] <ba7888b72413a16a> http://golly.sourceforge.net/
L313[14:43:23] <ba7888b72413a16a> this program has a ridiculous number of rules you can play around with
L314[14:44:21] <ba7888b72413a16a> see also: powder toy https://powdertoy.co.uk/
L315[14:44:50] <CompanionCube> woo powdertoy
L316[14:45:42] <bauen1> hm i remember reading a paper where someone made a cellular automata that was 2d and had somewhat similiar blocks to redstone
L317[14:47:03] <ba7888b72413a16a> minecraft in minecraft
L318[14:49:35] <bauen1> Found it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09Q5l47jTy8
L319[14:49:36] <MichiBot> Self Replication #2 | length: 2m 8s | Likes: 68 Dislikes: 1 Views: 8,162 | by Will Stevens | Published On 30/3/2010
L320[14:50:24] <bauen1> might require a bit less memory but more instructions to run
L321[14:52:34] <ba7888b72413a16a> maybe I should just simulate the 1.15 honey block
L322[14:52:46] <ba7888b72413a16a> I can also attach a 3D printer
L323[14:52:53] <ba7888b72413a16a> using a LOT of RFTools builders
L324[14:53:43] <bauen1> would it be possible to have it build a copy of itself ?
L325[14:54:07] <ba7888b72413a16a> no
L326[14:54:11] <ba7888b72413a16a> can't do precise placement
L327[14:54:38] <ba7888b72413a16a> of wires and such
L328[14:57:17] <bauen1> by the way, has anyone already made a self-replicating robot ?
L329[14:58:08] <AdorableCatgirl> so i've added a loot disk and an EEPROM in OSSM
L330[14:58:40] <AdorableCatgirl> http://tinyurl.com/yy2xgv8b
L331[14:58:55] <AdorableCatgirl> http://tinyurl.com/yxlcf8fu
L332[14:58:58] <AdorableCatgirl> ree
L333[14:59:13] <AdorableCatgirl> http://tinyurl.com/y6agkkbz
L334[14:59:15] <AdorableCatgirl> there we go
L335[14:59:37] <AdorableCatgirl> ignore the broken textures, they would have been the creative PROMs
L336[15:03:13] <CompanionCube> Izaya: https://twitter.com/csswizardry/status/1185604806901207045 fuckin lol
L337[15:03:14] <MichiBot> Sat Oct 19 12:13:08 CDT 2019 @csswizardry: Want to view a single image on @imgur (literally its only job)? Good luck! You gotta successfully download (354KB)… <https://t.co/XnYOtIQlQL&gt;
L338[15:03:50] <CompanionCube> see in particular https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHQeOuAWwAARvdx.jpg:large
L339[15:05:28] <Izaya> lmao
L340[15:06:14] <Izaya> Do you think the monetisation outweighs the bandwidth costs?
L341[15:07:50] <CompanionCube> Izaya: the bandwidth costs are probably higher for not-them
L342[15:07:53] <CompanionCube> so it's SEP
L343[15:08:41] <CompanionCube> i mean, do you see imgur not having a sweet bandwidth deal?
L344[15:15:20] <CompanionCube> meanewhile elsewhere: 'Moreover, as other commentators have mentioned, they optimized more for the subsequent images than the initial pageloads (they'd prefetch the next N images).'
L345[15:15:58] <AdorableCatgirl> so
L346[15:16:13] <AdorableCatgirl> i think i fixed T1 EPROM wiping
L347[15:16:20] <CompanionCube> and yet alexa shows that half their users don't stay on the site, so i wonder how useful that optimization is...
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L350[16:53:55] <Forecaster> %tonkout
L351[16:53:55] <MichiBot> Dad-Sizzle! Forecaster! You beat your own previous record of 5 hours, 1 minute and 36 seconds (By 50 minutes and 36 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L352[16:53:56] <MichiBot> Forecaster has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.005 tonk points! plus 0.008 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 1.20099
L353[18:20:17] <Ariri> %tomk
L354[18:20:21] <Ariri> %tonk
L355[18:20:21] <MichiBot> Zounderkite! Ariri! You beat Forecaster's previous record of <0 (By 1 hour, 26 minutes and 25 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L356[18:20:22] <MichiBot> Ariri's new record is 1 hour, 26 minutes and 25 seconds! Ariri also gained 0.00144 tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L357[18:20:36] <Ariri> %drink
L358[18:20:36] <MichiBot> You drink a gloomy jumbonium potion (New!). Ariri gains an extra strand of hair on their face until they say the word "Blatherskite".
L359[18:42:48] <Izaya> CompanionCube: xfce is dead
L360[18:42:51] <Izaya> https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Xfce-4.16-Early-Feature-Plans
L361[18:42:54] <CompanionCube> what now
L362[18:43:11] <CompanionCube> Izaya: tbf CSD can be done right
L363[18:43:18] <Izaya> no, it can't
L364[18:43:20] <Izaya> it's inherently wrong
L365[18:43:21] <CompanionCube> yes it can
L366[18:43:46] <CompanionCube> the way GNOME uses it isn't doing it right
L367[18:44:16] <CompanionCube> you don't need SSD rendering if you have a CSD library or such
L368[18:44:42] <Izaya> the window manager should do window management, and the decorations are part of that
L369[18:45:17] <Izaya> Hopefully fuckin
L370[18:45:28] <Izaya> gtk3-nocsd will fix the issues adding CSDs will cause
L371[18:46:40] <AdorableCatgirl> i hate laptops tbh
L372[18:47:35] <Izaya> maybe I'll just switch to haiku
L373[18:47:58] <CompanionCube> Izaya: that's a reasonable point but i see nothing technically wrong with implementing CSD via a common library
L374[18:48:19] <Izaya> I do: giving applications control over window decorations.
L375[18:50:23] <CompanionCube> 'sides
L376[18:50:29] <CompanionCube> isn't there MATE :p
L377[18:50:35] <Izaya> yeah, it's garbage
L378[18:51:32] <CompanionCube> Izaya: as a middle kind of thing
L379[18:51:45] <CompanionCube> you could have it as a common library API that comes with a WM
L380[18:52:18] <Izaya> I'm not against the application having some ability to manipulate the decorations
L381[18:52:30] <Izaya> but I am against giving over full control
L382[18:54:04] <CompanionCube> man
L383[18:54:20] <CompanionCube> the decorations on the blog look thicc when used with that font
L384[18:54:55] <Izaya> positively GNOME grade
L385[18:54:57] <Izaya> how garbage
L386[18:55:33] <Izaya> >CSDs for settings dialogs
L387[18:55:35] <Izaya> but
L388[18:55:37] <Izaya> why
L389[18:55:38] <CompanionCube> 2020 wikipedia article: instead of SKSTerm, SKSDE
L390[18:55:39] <Izaya> it doesn't even add anything
L391[18:55:41] <Izaya> fucko
L392[18:55:56] <Izaya> mfw Wolf480pl made the same joke re: sksterm
L393[18:56:02] <Izaya> is this my life now
L394[18:56:16] <CompanionCube> though
L395[18:56:26] <CompanionCube> would SKSDE just be the Haiku UI API for Linux
L396[18:56:43] <Izaya> quite possibly
L397[18:56:46] <Izaya> it'd at least be similar
L398[18:56:52] <Izaya> window tabbing is <3
L399[18:58:50] * CompanionCube doesn't see wolf480pl making the sksde joke
L400[18:59:19] <Izaya> was just the terminal
L401[18:59:32] <Izaya> when I was sperging about terminals
L402[18:59:35] <CompanionCube> yeah
L403[18:59:35] <Izaya> and fonts
L404[18:59:37] <CompanionCube> that's when i saw it
L405[18:59:46] <CompanionCube> and decided to riff off it :p
L406[18:59:59] <Izaya> oh okay carry on
L407[19:03:04] <CompanionCube> Izaya: /me wonders if you could look into qt
L408[19:03:15] <CompanionCube> or maybe project trident now that it's rebasing to void linux
L409[19:04:41] <CompanionCube> lumina desktop with openbox(?) hasn't looked to bad even if my attempt at trying it with xephyr failed.
L410[19:09:06] <Izaya> lumina is eh
L411[19:12:27] <CompanionCube> is 'eh' better than your dislike for the future XFCE? :p
L412[19:19:11] <AmandaC> Speaking of WMs, I'm likely to give awesomeWM a shot when I get my laptop back on tuesday
L413[19:19:52] <AmandaC> mostly because I'm insane and can't stay down in one DE / WM for a while.
L414[19:40:17] <Yuuki> %tonk
L415[19:40:18] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Yuuki, you were not able to beat Ariri's record of 1 hour, 26 minutes and 25 seconds this time. 1 hour, 19 minutes and 56 seconds were wasted! Missed by 6 minutes and 29 seconds!
L416[19:53:19] <Izaya> which mod added the rack-mounted raids?
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L418[20:10:39] <AdorableCatgirl> https://github.com/Adorable-Catgirl/OpenSolidState OPEN SOLID STATE: IT ACTUALLY FUCKING WORKS
L419[20:10:42] <AdorableCatgirl> somehwat
L420[20:47:51] <Ariri> i like the icon
L421[21:24:38] <Izaya> did that patch to let you write-protect floppies ever get in?
L422[21:39:57] <AdorableCatgirl> what icon lmao @Ariri
L423[21:40:22] <AdorableCatgirl> Izaya: i think you can do that by clicking with the floppy disk in your hand
L424[21:40:28] <Izaya> oh
L425[21:40:49] <Izaya> want to WP my minitel installer
L426[21:41:40] <AdorableCatgirl> i guess
L427[21:42:04] <Izaya> I don't wanna accidentally overwrite it
L428[21:42:05] <AdorableCatgirl> you could like
L429[21:42:10] <AdorableCatgirl> do that--oh fair
L430[21:42:44] <AdorableCatgirl> but we should make psychos 2 boot off of romfs w/o needing to be extracted to tmpfs :^)
L431[21:42:46] <Izaya> still thinking about making internet cards more expensive for both servers
L432[21:43:08] <AdorableCatgirl> aight
L433[21:43:22] <Izaya> could just make them uncraftable and hand them out to people starting ISPs
L434[21:43:32] <AdorableCatgirl> especially if we get the radio shit in OSSM
L435[21:43:50] <AdorableCatgirl> imagine that shit
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L437[22:19:40] <Ariri> @AdorableCatgirl http://tinyurl.com/y5tl5tok
L438[22:19:51] <Ariri> ignore the doodle oops
L439[22:21:18] <AdorableCatgirl> o
L440[22:21:27] <AdorableCatgirl> lmao yeah, github pfp
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L444[22:41:53] <Ariri> %tonk
L445[22:41:53] <MichiBot> Aw jeez! Ariri! You beat your own previous record of 1 hour, 26 minutes and 25 seconds (By 1 hour, 35 minutes and 9 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L446[22:41:54] <MichiBot> Ariri's new record is 3 hours, 1 minute and 35 seconds! No points gained for stealing from yourself. (Lost out on 0.00159 x 2 = 0.00318)
L447[22:49:23] <Izaya> .tell ben_mkiv does the rolldoor controller work as a uC controller?
L448[22:49:27] <Izaya> %tell ben_mkiv does the rolldoor controller work as a uC controller?
L449[22:49:28] <MichiBot> Izaya: ben_mkiv will be notified of this message when next seen.
L450[22:52:01] <Ariri> 32 cent BTC transact fee is bonkers
L451[22:59:21] <AmandaC> Micro controller controller?
L452[23:00:52] <AmandaC> Oh hey, my laptop is in the state capital
L453[23:01:22] <AmandaC> Soon dot Tiff
L454[23:01:30] <AmandaC> Now: sleep, however
L455[23:02:07] * AmandaC adjusts her feets, snugs back up around elfi, using her lap as a chin rest while she sleeps
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L457[23:27:16] <Yuuki> %tonk
L458[23:27:16] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Yuuki, you were not able to beat Ariri's record of 3 hours, 1 minute and 35 seconds this time. 45 minutes and 23 seconds were wasted! Missed by 2 hours, 16 minutes and 12 seconds!
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