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<The_Stargazer> Huh.
L2[00:14:49]
<The_Stargazer> Windows Explorer and my USB
flash drive... do not appear to be compatible.
L3[00:14:49]
<The_Stargazer> Just inserting it hangs
Windows Explorer.
L4[00:15:07] <CompanionCube> wtv
L5[00:15:12] <CompanionCube> *wtf
L6[00:15:22]
<The_Stargazer> exactly
L7[00:15:29]
<The_Stargazer> i have no idea why it does
this
L8[00:16:54]
<The_Stargazer> oh, and the entire desktop
has now gone.
L9[00:16:54]
<The_Stargazer> thanks, windows.
L10[00:17:24]
<The_Stargazer> it doesn't want to
start
L11[00:17:24]
<The_Stargazer> and this is why windows is
horrible.
L12[00:19:13]
<The_Stargazer> ah, it was waiting for a
service
L13[00:19:43]
<The_Stargazer> oh boy
L14[00:19:44]
<The_Stargazer> manually inputting 100
links
L15[00:19:44]
<The_Stargazer> f u n
L16[00:22:47]
<The_Stargazer> wat.
L17[00:22:57]
<The_Stargazer> it doesn't even recognize
the drive if i plug it into a usb 2 port
L18[00:23:46]
<The_Stargazer> so much for backwards
compatibility
L19[00:24:03]
<The_Stargazer> windows is stupid.
L20[00:24:26] <CompanionCube>
alternatively
L21[00:24:37] <CompanionCube> perhaps drive
is kill?
L22[00:24:53]
<The_Stargazer> works on other
devices
L23[00:25:06] <CompanionCube> oh
L24[00:25:28]
<The_Stargazer> and it does work in a usb 3
port... if "work" includes "unable to actually
use"
L25[00:27:03]
<The_Stargazer> oh now it works in a usb 2
port.. same issues.
L26[00:27:13]
<The_Stargazer> i guess i could try
rebooting
L28[00:32:39]
<The_Stargazer> nope, not even reboot works
:I
L29[00:48:45] <Elfi> Yorhaaaaa
L30[00:53:08]
<The_Stargazer> the drive could be kill
because other drives work..
L31[00:53:24]
<The_Stargazer> but I don't get why it
works in other devices
L32[00:53:35]
<Marcel|Chaoschaot234> what means 160x50 as
max resolution? 160x50 T3 monitors?
L33[00:53:48] <Izaya> 160x50
characters
L34[00:53:53]
<The_Stargazer> ^
L35[00:54:02]
<The_Stargazer> is it height/width or
width/height?
L36[00:54:07]
<Marcel|Chaoschaot234> ah ok, well, but
what is then the max sized T3 screen?
L37[00:54:12] <Izaya> Width by height
L38[00:54:14]
<Marcel|Chaoschaot234> 10x10 or
20x10?
L39[00:54:17] <Izaya> 8x6 blocks
L40[00:54:23] <Izaya> I believe
L41[00:54:38]
<The_Stargazer> it's configurable
though
L42[01:28:57]
<Forecaster>
%tonkout
L43[01:28:57] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You
gotta tonk before you can tonk out. For this transgression the
timer has been reset.
L44[01:29:15]
<Forecaster>
Oh
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L46[01:59:00] <CompanionCube> Izaya: well,
now discord has blatantly lied about feature sup[ort
L47[01:59:18] <CompanionCube> also
apparently even their electronshit apparently has cross-platform
disparity
L48[01:59:19] <Izaya> Oh?
L49[01:59:46] <asie> what'd i miss
L50[02:01:29] <CompanionCube> Izaya: asie:
they advertised a streaming feature as something 100% of users
could use
L51[02:01:42] <CompanionCube> turns out
it's windows-only whoops
L52[02:03:08] <CompanionCube> (also,
apparently the electronshit doesn't do spellcheck on linux. I guess
that's an advantage of the web client? ;p)
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L54[02:04:43] <Izaya> Nice
L55[02:06:36] <CompanionCube> this was a
serious comment: '100% of the users who could use it'
L56[02:06:47] <CompanionCube> tautological
comment is tautological.
L57[02:07:29] <CompanionCube> (oh, and
apparently 'windows' might not include 'windows 7')
L58[02:08:14]
<The_Stargazer> WHAT
L59[02:08:17]
<The_Stargazer> MY USB WORKS NOW
L60[02:08:33]
<The_Stargazer> windows is weird
L61[02:12:07] <Izaya> CompanionCube: oh so
it only supports what
L62[02:12:12] <Izaya> 40% of installs?
nice
L63[02:12:18]
<The_Stargazer> so apparently trying to
rename a folder.. breaks it, again.
L65[02:14:09] <Izaya> tfw have to click
through ublock warnings
L66[02:14:11] <Izaya> nice
L67[02:14:56] <Izaya> lmao good to see
they're listening to community feedback
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<The_Stargazer> Renaming folders shouldn't
break everything...
L70[02:19:11]
<The_Stargazer> but hey, that's Windows for
you.
L71[02:19:33] <CompanionCube> Izaya:
imagine being electronshit and still being this bad at
cross-platformness
L72[02:19:44] <CompanionCube> perhaps the
hardware is more to blame
L73[02:19:50] <Izaya> seems average for
electronshit tbh
L74[02:20:01] <Izaya> it's low effort so
anything that takes more than the minimum doesn't get done
L75[02:20:08]
<The_Stargazer> okay, if I let it just load
it works.
L76[02:20:15]
<The_Stargazer> but i'm not going to
attempt to rename the folder.
L77[02:20:29] *
CompanionCube will enjoy firefox's spellchecking
L78[02:21:37] <CompanionCube> (also, given
the library is already used/works elsewhere...wouldn't this be less
than the minimum\0
L79[02:22:47] <Izaya> guessing
L80[02:22:50] <Izaya> something didn't
work
L81[02:22:55] <Izaya> for an arbitrary
reason
L82[02:23:08] <Izaya> but it worked on what
their managers would test on
L83[02:23:10] <Izaya> so they shipped
it
L84[03:04:37]
<The_Stargazer> chrome appears to always
hang a download when it's complete
L85[03:04:37]
<The_Stargazer> ..another reason why chrome
is stupid
L86[03:05:14]
<The_Stargazer> `60.3/60.3 MB, 0 secs
left`
L87[04:19:14]
<Bob> File
checking usually
L88[04:19:34]
<Bob> or
some anti virus thing
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L93[05:51:32] <Test> what
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<Bob> yes
what
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L99[07:46:50] <MihaChehov> о,зашёл
L100[07:48:20] <Inari> Yeah, that
L101[07:52:45]
<Bob>
Yes
L102[08:00:29]
<AdorableCatgirl> CompanionCube: W7 doesn't
support spell check, only Windows 10. Something something
spellcheck API
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<AdorableCatgirl> Spellcheck doesn't even
work on Android correctly :^) It just freaks out.
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L107[08:18:07] <Izaya> Listen to that
horrid sandpaper whine q_q
L108[08:19:15]
<AdorableCatgirl> Izaya: can't rn
L109[08:20:02]
<Kodos> I'm
out of the loop, what can I do with these 'Lumens' from
Keybase
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L112[09:11:27] <Saphire> Kodos: give them
to me!
L113[09:11:41] <Saphire> ...seriously I
had some random just request them from me. FFS
L114[09:13:53] <Saphire> wait
L115[09:13:58] <Saphire> there's no way to
report an user?
L116[09:31:12]
<Forecaster>
what's Lumens?
L117[09:35:40] <Lizzy> some cryptocurrency
thing that keybase teamed up with or something?
L118[09:39:06]
<Forecaster>
ah
L120[09:55:37]
<Forecaster>
%sip
L121[09:55:44] <MichiBot> You drink a
light void potion (New!). The sun turns into a giant baby face for
a second. It's horrific.
L122[09:55:53]
<Forecaster>
agh
L123[10:06:33] <Inari> %sip
L124[10:06:33] <MichiBot> You drink a
resonating white potion (New!). The bottle turns into an
apple.
L125[10:06:44] *
Inari eats it
L126[10:06:46] <Inari> Oh wait
L127[10:06:49] <Inari> I'm not supposed to
eat today
L128[10:11:04] <AmandaC> Why not?
L129[10:21:13] *
AmandaC paws at Inari "Why can't you eat?"
L130[10:21:48] <Inari> AmandaC: It's a
fasting day!
L131[10:22:01] <AmandaC> I see
L132[10:22:04] *
Elfi munches on fishburger, shares with Amanda
L133[10:22:11]
<Forecaster>
it's kind of slow actually
L134[10:22:20] *
AmandaC politely declines, cuddles Elfi anyway
L135[10:22:28] *
AmandaC is a weird kitteh that doesn't like fish
L136[10:22:43] <Elfi> Oh :o Okay
L137[10:22:46] *
Elfi noms fishburger
L138[10:22:54]
<AdorableCatgirl> borger
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L144[11:48:59] <Inari> Elfi: I've been
trying to feed her fish for gaes!
L145[11:49:01] <Inari> *ages
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L147[12:13:18] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L148[12:13:19] <MichiBot> CompanionCube's
new record is 10 hours, 44 minutes and 21 seconds! No points gained
for stealing from yourself. (Lost out on 0.01074)
L149[12:13:18] <MichiBot> Voldemort!
CompanionCube! You beat your own previous record of <0 (By 10
hours, 44 minutes and 21 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L150[12:23:46]
<FeherNeoH>
w...wat?
L151[12:24:00]
<FeherNeoH>
noone tonked for 10 hours after a tonkout???
L152[12:25:26] <CompanionCube>
apparently
L153[12:29:07] <asie> yeah
L154[12:30:17] <Inari> %sip
L155[12:30:17] <MichiBot> You drink a
fragrant rock potion (New!). Inari feels slightly slower.
L156[12:30:42] <Inari> %warp
L157[12:30:43] <MichiBot> You end up in a
dimension populated by pigs.
L158[12:30:49] <Inari> Tasty
L159[12:33:05] <CompanionCube> %loot
L160[12:33:05] <MichiBot> CompanionCube:
You get a loot box! It contains a Magic Lua 5.5 interpreter! (25%)
(25%)
L161[12:33:11] <CompanionCube> ooh,
nice
L162[12:35:22]
<AdorableCatgirl> %loot
L163[12:35:24] <MichiBot> AdorableCatgirl:
You get a loot box! It contains a picture of a crudely drawn
appendage. (100%)
L164[12:35:31]
<AdorableCatgirl> %inv list
L166[12:36:55]
<AdorableCatgirl> %inv add JIT DRM
L167[12:36:56] *
MichiBot summons 'JIT DRM' and adds to her inventory. This seems
very sturdy.
L168[12:37:45]
<AdorableCatgirl> %inv add Cross-platform
platform specific cross-platform code
L169[12:38:00]
<AdorableCatgirl> huh there's a cooldown to
inv add
L170[12:38:02]
<AdorableCatgirl> kewl
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<Forecaster>
I wonder why :P
L173[12:40:41]
<Forecaster>
%Inv count
L174[12:40:58]
<Forecaster>
%inv count
L175[12:40:59] <MichiBot> The inventory
contains 396 items.
L176[12:41:06]
<Forecaster>
That's why
L177[12:41:12]
<AdorableCatgirl> we almost to 400
L178[12:41:32]
<Forecaster>
Maybe I should purge it
L179[12:41:35]
<AdorableCatgirl> noooo
L180[12:41:50]
<AdorableCatgirl> i don't wanna lose the
all new 2001 Isuzu Trooper
L181[12:42:19]
<Forecaster>
Delete anything older than a year
L182[12:42:51]
<AdorableCatgirl> >49 years ago
L183[12:43:19]
<AdorableCatgirl> also cmon
L184[12:43:24]
<AdorableCatgirl> we need to get to
500
L185[12:43:55]
<AdorableCatgirl> %inv add Cross-platform
platform specific code
L186[12:43:55] *
MichiBot summons 'Cross-platform platform specific code' and adds
to her inventory. This seems rather fragile...
L187[12:44:05]
<AdorableCatgirl> yes it is michibot
L188[12:44:07]
<AdorableCatgirl> yes it is
L189[12:46:29] <CompanionCube> maybe
whenever you add something
L190[12:46:41] <CompanionCube> something
else goes missing from the inventory
L191[12:46:50] <CompanionCube> (or has a
chance to)
L192[12:47:35]
<AdorableCatgirl> %loot Izaya
L193[12:47:35] <MichiBot> AdorableCatgirl:
You stab Izaya! It dropped a broken .tif. (100%)!
L194[12:47:44]
<AdorableCatgirl> yikes
L195[12:48:01] <CompanionCube> %loot
AdorableCatgirl
L196[12:48:44]
<AdorableCatgirl> you have FAILED
L197[12:52:23] <CompanionCube> %loot
AdorableCatgirl
L198[12:52:23] <MichiBot> CompanionCube:
You stab AdorableCatgirl! It dropped a sealed unmarked canister.
(100%)!
L199[12:52:31] <CompanionCube> what's
inside
L200[12:54:33]
<AdorableCatgirl> 36 TB of foxgirl
hentai
L201[12:55:54]
<Forecaster>
%sip
L202[12:55:54] <MichiBot> You drink a
solid ocean potion (New!). Forecaster's toes turn invisible until
they say the word "Blatherskite".
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<Zef> I got
an adding machine from 1919
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L210[13:17:26]
<Zef> Is
rs.getBundledInput() supposed to return a table?
L211[13:17:36]
<Zef> And
are the values supposed to be like 254?
L212[13:18:03]
<Bob> it
returns a table ?
L213[13:18:07]
<Bob>
iirc
L214[13:18:12]
<Bob> ive
used charset wires
L216[13:18:26]
<Zef> I'm
using projectred
L217[13:18:45]
<Zef> White
seems to be [0] and for some reason is 254 when on
L218[13:21:28]
<Zef> I
might have to use cc, I've got no idea why oc is doing that
L219[13:21:57]
<FeherNeoH>
it does that because:
L220[13:22:13]
<FeherNeoH>
1: project red uses 0-255 instead of 0-15
L221[13:22:23]
<Zef> It's
based off of binary
L222[13:22:26]
<FeherNeoH>
2: you get a table when you don't specify the color to read
L223[13:22:39]
<Zef> I
swear it used to just give the number value
L224[13:22:44]
<Zef> Rather
than this table
L225[13:23:08]
<FeherNeoH>
rs.getBundledInput(sides.left, color.white)
L226[13:23:16]
<FeherNeoH>
and it will only give you one value
L227[13:23:37]
<Zef> Well I
need the whole range of the cable
L228[13:23:46]
<Zef> And
the number itself is much more useful to me
L229[13:23:53]
<FeherNeoH>
but...
L230[13:23:55]
<FeherNeoH>
what?
L231[13:24:04]
<FeherNeoH>
you read 16 wires
L232[13:24:18]
<FeherNeoH>
are you expecting a bitfield or what?
L233[13:24:19]
<Zef> And
why would it's behavior be white = 254, orange = 253 and so
on
L234[13:24:42]
<Zef> I'm
going to make a redstone CPU and don't feel like buiding a ton of
memory for it
L235[13:24:45]
<FeherNeoH>
that's because signal strength decreases by 1 every block
L236[13:25:00]
<Zef> How in
the world does that make *any* sense at all
L237[13:25:03]
<FeherNeoH>
and you have orange one block farther than white
L238[13:25:30]
<FeherNeoH>
try it, switch up white and orange where you are sending the
signals fronm
L239[13:25:32]
<FeherNeoH>
*from
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<FeherNeoH>
white will be 253, orange will be 254
L241[13:26:13]
<FeherNeoH>
if you have more than 254 blocks of cabling, you won't get any
signal
L242[13:26:18]
<Zef> What
the fuck
L243[13:26:23]
<FeherNeoH>
that's how project red works
L244[13:26:41]
<FeherNeoH>
signal falls just like on regular redstone
L245[13:26:46]
<Zef> I
thought that projectred had no signal degregation
L246[13:26:49]
<FeherNeoH>
but you have 256 steps, not 16
L247[13:27:18]
<FeherNeoH>
yes, it has
L248[13:27:35]
<FeherNeoH>
but it's way less noticable unless you are using it with
computers
L249[13:27:37] <AdorableCatgirl> yea it
do
L250[13:27:51]
<FeherNeoH>
one rarely uses analog over project red anyways
L251[13:28:05] <asie> project red has
signal degradation, absolutely
L252[13:28:11] <asie> charset wires do
too
L253[13:28:17] <AdorableCatgirl> i wanted
to but i realized it's not a great idea
L254[13:28:25] <asie> i think bluepower
was the only one which truly had no degradation. not sure about
redlogic.
L255[13:28:27]
<FeherNeoH>
I use it
L256[13:28:30]
<FeherNeoH>
but it's a pain
L257[13:28:52] <asie> signal degradation
allows for significant performance optimizations, which is why mods
generally continue to utilize it
L258[13:28:56]
<FeherNeoH>
(I use it for my railway station, 16 parallel switches controlled
by a single color)
L259[13:29:01] <asie> without it, the only
other option is building graphs, and that's Hard
L260[13:29:41]
<FeherNeoH>
even more so when doing it inside the game
L261[13:30:03]
<FeherNeoH>
when you have a separate process handling the whole signaling
system, it's way less painful
L262[13:30:14]
<Zef> okay
so I think I know how I can work around it
L263[13:30:25]
<Zef> just
gonna be a lot bigger of a pain, and probably why I didn't do this
before
L264[13:30:53]
<FeherNeoH>
just bitshift them into a single number as logic values instead of
numbers
L265[13:31:07]
<FeherNeoH>
then drop the table reference
L266[13:31:44]
<Zef> I'm
going to iterate through the table from 0 to 15, and change the
values into 0 and 1. Then multiply it by 2 to the power of the
table position
L267[13:31:49]
<Zef> And
use that for an array of memory
L268[13:32:07]
<FeherNeoH>
or just bitshift it together
L269[13:32:17]
<Zef>
Bitshifting sometimes confuses me
L270[13:32:19]
<FeherNeoH>
and you won't even need to keep an array
L271[13:32:23]
<Zef> I'm
not in the most thinky mood right now
L272[13:32:33] <AdorableCatgirl> i finally
have become powerful
L273[13:32:39]
<FeherNeoH>
Sometimes it helps that I normally use C/ASM
L274[13:32:51] <AdorableCatgirl> i have SO
MANY ROUNDS FOR MY REVOLVER
L275[13:33:01] <AdorableCatgirl> and i
have a RIOT SHIELD
L276[13:33:34]
<Zef> Well
the array is to store the redstone CPU's memory
L277[13:33:44]
<FeherNeoH>
*opens the wardrobe*
L278[13:33:48]
<Zef> And
then I figure I can write something to let me easily view it and
manipulate it
L279[13:34:03]
<FeherNeoH>
who needs a revolver when I have a katana and a G36 (airsoft) right
here?
L280[13:38:13] <AdorableCatgirl> tbh i
need to get a fox
L281[13:38:28]
<FeherNeoH>
I need to get an IRL fox
L284[13:55:09]
<FeherNeoH>
I didn't even try it on my GTX 760 yet
L285[14:03:09]
<Zef>
oh
L286[14:03:12]
<Zef> oh
no
L287[14:03:33]
<Zef> so the
redstone_changed event returns the number value of the world side
it's on
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<Zef> But
the rs.getBundledInput expects the number value in relation to the
case
L290[14:04:24]
<FeherNeoH>
w....
L291[14:04:27]
<FeherNeoH>
what?!?!
L292[14:04:31] <asie> wonder if that's a
bug
L293[14:04:48]
<FeherNeoH>
Let's just say OpenOS is Windows based
L294[14:04:55]
<FeherNeoH>
and thus it's inconsistent
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<Zef> So I
originally used relative sides for the variables at the top
L298[14:09:57]
<Zef> Then
realized those don't match with the numbers I was getting back from
the event, so I changed them
L299[14:10:18]
<Zef> And
then now rs.getBundledInput isn't working because it's expecting
relative directions
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<Kleadron>
>Let's just say OpenOS is Windows based
L308[15:23:24]
<Kleadron>
>and thus it's inconsistent
L309[15:23:24]
<Kleadron>
idk just about every linux distro ive seen isn't that much better
compared to windows' inconsistancy
L310[15:23:28]
<Kleadron>
> Let's just say OpenOS is Windows based
L311[15:23:28]
<Kleadron>
> and thus it's inconsistent
L312[15:23:28]
<Kleadron>
idk just about every linux distro ive seen isn't that much better
compared to windows' inconsistancy [Edited]
L313[15:28:57]
<AdorableCatgirl> i'd beg to differ
L314[15:29:35]
<FeherNeoH>
anything that lets one theme GTK apps can be automatically
considered inconsistent
L315[15:36:03]
<AdorableCatgirl> fair
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L320[18:04:17] <AmandaC> %choose
cheezburger or kinda-cheezburger?
L321[18:04:27] <MichiBot> AmandaC:
Elementary dear Watson, "cheezburger" is the obvious
choice!
L322[18:06:42]
<Marcel|Chaoschaot234> Hey, I am just
starting right now, with my planned programm and want to know, if I
would write my own libs or smth. similar, if I should put special
files into special folders.
L323[18:06:42]
<Marcel|Chaoschaot234> E. g. in /home only
the executable file and under /lib and/or /usr other files, which
are needed for my programm or can I also just go ahead and putting
the hole thing in /home/myProgamm ?
L324[18:07:20]
<Marcel|Chaoschaot234> Hey, I am just
starting right now, with my planned programm and want to know, if I
should write my own libs or smth. similar, if I should put special
files into special folders.
L325[18:07:21]
<Marcel|Chaoschaot234> E. g. in /home only
the executable file and under /lib and/or /usr other files, which
are needed for my programm or can I also just go ahead and putting
the hole thing in /home/myProgamm ? [Edited]
L326[18:07:44]
<Marcel|Chaoschaot234> Hey, I am just
starting right now, with my planned programm and want to know, if I
should write my own libs or smth. similar, into special
folders.
L327[18:07:44]
<Marcel|Chaoschaot234> E. g. in /home only
the executable file and under /lib and/or /usr other files, which
are needed for my programm or can I also just go ahead and putting
the hole thing in /home/myProgamm ? [Edited]
L328[18:08:43]
<Bob>
@Marcel|Chaoschaot234 in OpenOS, user libs usually go in
/usr/lib
L329[18:08:58]
<Bob> But
you can put anywhere package.path points to
L330[18:09:08]
<Marcel|Chaoschaot234> ok
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L332[18:11:05]
<Marcel|Chaoschaot234> could you give me a
good example structure so that I am be able to export it later, if
I am done with my programm and thinking, that it should be made
public?
L333[18:11:33]
<Marcel|Chaoschaot234> Better to have such
a structure from the beginning instead of doing it to late ^^
L334[18:12:21]
<Bob> I just
give files and point libs, you can make installers
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L336[18:14:44]
<Marcel|Chaoschaot234> Uhm, what are point
libs?
L337[18:14:53]
<Marcel|Chaoschaot234> or do you mean
pointing to a lib file?
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L340[18:17:31]
<Bob> tell
to user to get x lib
L341[18:17:50]
<Marcel|Chaoschaot234> now I am confused
X.X
L342[18:19:21] <Izaya> Marcel: /usr/lib
for libraries, /usr/bin for executables
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L345[18:19:37]
<Marcel|Chaoschaot234> and what can go into
/home?
L346[18:19:45] <Izaya> ideally,
nothing
L347[18:19:45]
<Marcel|Chaoschaot234> config files?
L348[18:19:50] <Izaya> config files go in
/etc
L349[18:20:05]
<Marcel|Chaoschaot234> ah ok
L350[18:20:59] <Izaya> /home is the user's
home folder and shouldn't be touched by programs unless expressly
instructed to
L351[18:21:00]
<Bob> the
way anything is done in linux cause its good
L352[18:21:05]
<Marcel|Chaoschaot234> then I must first
create a folder called /lib since usr/lib does not exists an in
those folders I can create a subfolder with my program name,
rigth?
L353[18:21:18] <Izaya> mkdir /usr/lib
/usr/bin
L354[18:21:24]
<Bob>
^
L355[18:21:30]
<Marcel|Chaoschaot234> then I must first
create a folder called /lib since usr/lib does not exists and in
those folders I can create a subfolder with my program name, rigth?
[Edited]
L356[18:21:34] <Izaya> and I'm not sure
how require interacts with subfolders sorry
L357[18:21:50]
<Bob> isnt
it with .
L358[18:21:59]
<Bob> like .
= /
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L360[18:23:14]
<Bob> And
having a folder in lib with your nick is good to seprarate
libraries from you and others
L361[18:25:56] <CompanionCube> Izaya:
well
L362[18:26:02] <CompanionCube> per-user
config files could go in /home
L363[18:26:11] <CompanionCube> but openos
doesn't really have the concepts needed for that
L364[18:26:24]
<Bob> no
real users
L365[18:26:31]
<Bob> just
/home
L366[18:26:44]
<Bob> we
need manjaro within OC
L367[18:26:55]
<Marcel|Chaoschaot234> manjaro?
L368[18:27:01]
<Bob>
?
L369[18:27:11] <CompanionCube> nah, why
not ~install gentoo~
L370[18:27:20]
<Bob> Arch
Linux mmm
L371[18:27:33] <Izaya> please
L372[18:27:37] <Izaya> anything but less
stable arch
L373[18:27:42] *
Izaya bans manjaro
L374[18:28:01] <CompanionCube> also didn't
they have package install scripts that had rather important
issues
L375[18:28:09]
<Bob> I
still have no idea wich distro to pick
L376[18:28:38] <CompanionCube> well, what
do you want from one/
L378[18:34:33]
<Bob> all i
really need is working nvidia drivers tbh and being better than
windows in most aspects
L379[18:34:55]
<Bob>
compiling on windows still gives me nightmares
L380[18:35:01]
<Bob>
:clap:
L381[18:37:51] <Izaya> I mean, something
ubuntu-derived would probably fit
L382[18:51:41]
<AdorableCatgirl> >working nvidia
drivers
L383[18:51:44]
<AdorableCatgirl> sorry those don't
exist
L384[18:51:46]
<AdorableCatgirl> anywhere
L387[18:55:07]
<AdorableCatgirl> Izaya: click click click
click click the bomb has been planted click click click click click
terrorists win click click click click click
L388[18:55:27]
<AdorableCatgirl> the glock is the ultimate
weapon
L389[19:09:34] <Izaya> HSPA+ makes me
wanna die
L390[19:12:27]
<Marcel|Chaoschaot234> is there a way, to
test/write your program out of minecraft?
L391[19:12:38]
<Marcel|Chaoschaot234> and yes, I have
access to the server files
L392[19:13:21] <Izaya> Marcel: ocvm
L394[19:14:35]
<Marcel|Chaoschaot234> uhm, nice but is
there an already compiled executable and not smth. which runs like
linux?
L395[19:14:52]
<Marcel|Chaoschaot234> because I play on
windows ^^
L396[19:15:12] <Izaya> that is going to be
a no, it's uh
L397[19:15:18] <Izaya> it doesn't work on
windows
L398[19:15:26] <Izaya> you could try under
WSL I guess, apparently that works
L399[19:16:12]
<Marcel|Chaoschaot234> and what about the
debian for windows from the store which I use instead of connecting
over putty to my root?
L400[19:16:43] <Izaya> >to your
root
L401[19:16:46] <Izaya> [concern]
L402[19:16:53] <Izaya> but that's either
WSL or WSL2 so it's worth a shot I guess
L403[19:17:06] <CompanionCube> Izaya:
today on ukpol: the PM's plan of openly defying the law of the land
and the expressed will of our sovereign parliament
L404[19:17:12] <CompanionCube>
continues
L405[19:17:32] <Izaya> CompanionCube: if
he gets impeached before trump I'm going to be mildly
incensed
L406[19:17:36] <Izaya> I'll lose $5
L407[19:17:53]
<Marcel|Chaoschaot234> would you help me to
set it up correctly Izaya?
L408[19:17:55] <CompanionCube> does the
bet literally say impeachement
L409[19:18:02] <CompanionCube> because if
it does you can't ever wib
L410[19:19:03] <CompanionCube> the PM can
be forced out by a vote of confidence though, and he doesn't have
the votes to win any that gets called
L411[19:19:06] <Izaya> I mean I'm mostly
joking but my mum and I have been arguing over whether brexit will
happen before trump gets booted for a while
L412[19:19:30] <Izaya> Marcel: I can have
a go, but I have no knowledge of the quirks of WSL
L413[19:20:42] <AmandaC> %8ball rain
time?
L414[19:20:43] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Ask
again later
L415[19:20:52] <AmandaC> Rain time
L416[19:20:58] <AmandaC> %8ball put the
laptop away?
L417[19:20:58] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Outlook
not so good
L418[19:21:02] <AmandaC> okay
L419[19:22:14]
<Marcel|Chaoschaot234> wait ... Makefile
will automaticly be used when I do "make ocvm" isn't this
right?
L420[19:22:27] <Izaya> make reads the
Makefile yes
L421[19:22:46]
<Marcel|Chaoschaot234> nice, then I should
only need to clone/copy the hole repro
L422[19:22:57]
<Marcel|Chaoschaot234> and install
dependencies for compiling before
L423[19:23:19] <Izaya> that's uh
L424[19:23:22] <Izaya> usually the
case
L425[19:23:31] <Izaya> sometimes you have
to do ./configure and that'll make the makefile
L426[19:23:40] <Izaya> but ocvm doesn't
have a configure script
L427[19:23:44]
<The_Stargazer> ^
L428[19:24:33] <CompanionCube> Izaya:
don't forget 'make install' sometimes
L429[19:24:46]
<The_Stargazer> or 'make build' (I
think?)
L430[19:25:09] <CompanionCube> (plain
'make' will run whatever target is defined as 'all')
L431[19:25:30]
<The_Stargazer> and if there's no 'all'
target?
L432[19:26:47] <CompanionCube> 'Make will
look for a Makefile called Makefile and will build the default
target, the first target in the Makefile.'
L433[19:27:14]
<The_Stargazer> ah
L434[19:27:22] <CompanionCube> the 'all'
thing is apparently just a GNU convention
L435[19:28:13]
<The_Stargazer> so if the targets are
defined as, say.. build, install, ..., will running just 'make' run
the 'build' target?
L436[19:28:25] <CompanionCube> yep
L437[19:28:27]
<Marcel|Chaoschaot234> oh and I am correct
that I must manually add other mods lua files, when I need them,
rigth?
L438[19:28:44] <Izaya> other mods' lua
files?
L439[19:28:53]
<Marcel|Chaoschaot234> immersive
engineering
L440[19:28:58]
<The_Stargazer> uh
L441[19:29:03]
<The_Stargazer> OC will hook into it
automatically iirc
L442[19:29:17] <Izaya> well uh
L443[19:29:26] <Izaya> ocvm probably won't
have the relevant components emulated
L444[19:29:33]
<The_Stargazer> oh, yeah
L445[19:29:39]
<The_Stargazer> ocvm can't do that as far
as I know
L446[19:29:55] <Izaya> though, you asked
for write/test your software
L447[19:30:16]
<Marcel|Chaoschaot234> well, for gui
testing it is still fine
L448[19:30:30]
<Marcel|Chaoschaot234> as I could add the
relevant content after all is finished and working well
L449[19:30:42] <Izaya> you can edit the
files in your world save
L450[19:30:54] <Izaya>
.minecraft/saves/worldname/opencomputers/disk-uuid/
L451[19:30:56]
<The_Stargazer> if you plan to edit it
while mc is running, turn off file buffering
L453[19:31:06]
<The_Stargazer> saves a lot of time
L454[19:31:15]
<Marcel|Chaoschaot234> ok
L455[19:31:26] <Izaya> The_Stargazer: what
if I told you you only need to pull and reinsert the drive with it
turned on
L456[19:31:30]
<Marcel|Chaoschaot234> well, uploading it
to pastee/pastebin should do the trick with updateing it
L457[19:31:32]
<The_Stargazer> w h a t
L458[19:31:52] <Izaya> the config option
is, I believe, bufferChanges
L459[19:31:56]
<The_Stargazer> although, won't that cause
issues if OpenOS is running on that drive?
L460[19:32:00] <Izaya> well yes
L461[19:32:10] <Izaya> but you only need
to reboot the computer, not minecraft
L462[19:32:34]
<The_Stargazer> why are changes buffered
anyway?
L463[19:32:48] <Izaya> so you can't hammer
the server with I/O
L464[19:32:59] <Izaya> wouldn't want
someone writing 1 byte every tick to an SSD
L465[19:33:13]
<Marcel|Chaoschaot234> ok, to be directly:
What I want is to write my stuff in an IDE with such support like
IntellIJ it does or like VC-Studio does or similar IDEs
L466[19:33:28]
<The_Stargazer> uhhh
L467[19:33:34]
<The_Stargazer> elaborate please
L468[19:33:58] <Izaya> SSDs have a limited
number of write cycles
L469[19:34:03] <Izaya> and it's in cells
of like, 512 bytes
L470[19:34:13] <Izaya> so you want to
minimise writes
L471[19:34:21] <CompanionCube> isn't that
overstated a little nowadays?
L472[19:34:21] <Izaya> sane OSes do
significant write caching
L473[19:34:24]
<Marcel|Chaoschaot234> if you write a pice
of code with functions, that referneces functions from other files
which are included over "require" that you can use
autocompleate and so on
L474[19:34:26]
<The_Stargazer> no, I meant about the IDE
thing
L475[19:34:33] <Izaya> oh okay carry
on
L476[19:35:03]
<The_Stargazer> are the maximum write
cycles for HDDs usually lower or higher
L477[19:35:19] <CompanionCube> the concept
doesn't exist for HDDs
L478[19:35:28] <CompanionCube> because
they're not flash
L479[19:35:30]
<The_Stargazer> so HDDs have theoretically
infinite write cycles?
L480[19:35:38] <Izaya> but they do have
mechanical wear, which kills them eventually
L481[19:35:41] <CompanionCube> ^
L482[19:36:11] <Izaya> Marcel: I don't
know anything about Lua support in IDEs, but I do know you can
interact directly with the files
L483[19:36:26] <Izaya> I believe a number
of people use VS Code for it
L484[19:36:26]
<The_Stargazer> if you want a Lua IDE
there's ZeroBrane Studio
L485[19:36:32] <Izaya> but that's a web
browser so no thanks
L486[19:36:40] <Izaya> (VS Code, that
is)
L487[19:36:49]
<The_Stargazer> which is worse, Atom or VS
Code?
L488[19:37:07] <Izaya> they're both a web
browser
L489[19:37:12] <Izaya> I don't see the
difference
L490[19:37:40]
<The_Stargazer> wait so the fact that atom
uses node doesn't bother you?
L491[19:37:55] <CompanionCube> it's all
electronshit
L492[19:38:05]
<The_Stargazer> is electron a node
thing
L493[19:38:15] <Izaya> electron is chrome
and nodejs without window decorations
L494[19:38:46]
<The_Stargazer> firefox electron when
L495[19:39:08] <CompanionCube> i
mean
L496[19:39:12] <CompanionCube> xulrunner
used to be a thing
L497[19:39:16] <Izaya> servo exists
L498[19:39:22] <Izaya> which was
compatible with the CEF
L499[19:39:23] <CompanionCube> which was
basically the same concept
L500[19:39:27]
<The_Stargazer> call it neutron :^)
L502[19:39:55] <Izaya> maybe we should
neutralise electron :^)
L503[19:40:07] <Izaya> wait that makes it
significantly heavier
L504[19:40:28] <Izaya> electrons are like
hundreds of times lighter than neutrons
L505[19:40:39] <Izaya> if I remember my
high-school physics classes correctly
L506[19:40:42]
<The_Stargazer> use a positron
L507[19:41:04] <Izaya> that's
illegal
L508[19:41:12] *
Izaya applies antimatter to The_Stargazer
L509[19:41:47]
<The_Stargazer> how much?
L510[19:42:08] <Izaya> one atom
L511[19:42:11] <Izaya> :^)
L512[19:42:18] <Izaya> is that how that
works
L513[19:42:25]
<The_Stargazer> hmm
L514[19:42:55]
<The_Stargazer> about 15 nanograms have
been produced
L515[19:43:21]
<The_Stargazer> i have no idea how many
atoms that is
L516[19:43:34] <Izaya> more than one
L517[19:44:56] <Izaya> I was just
wondering, does anti-matter exist in multi-part things like atoms
or
L518[19:45:35]
<The_Stargazer> well, there's probably
anti-atoms
L519[19:45:50] <Izaya> antoms
L520[19:45:56]
<The_Stargazer> iirc there are anti-protons
and anti-neutrons
L522[19:48:02] <Izaya> h y p e
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<AdorableCatgirl> Izaya: HYPE
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L527[20:04:46]
<Marcel|Chaoschaot234> should try this
out
L528[20:05:06] <Izaya> >MineOS
related
L529[20:05:10] <Izaya> oh nonononono
L530[20:06:22] <Izaya> that stuff is fast
and decent but VERY heavy
L531[20:08:18]
<Marcel|Chaoschaot234> well, I won't use
the heavy aspect from it so no double buffer as long as my wanted
graphs are fast enough
L532[20:09:33] <Izaya> someone should do
some memory profiling of it some time
L533[20:10:38]
<Marcel|Chaoschaot234> yeah but what I want
is simple gui thing but writing an own lib is for me not that easy
in lua ^^
L534[20:12:18]
<Marcel|Chaoschaot234> hardest part would
be the live graph for the 6 generators, which should run as single
task Izaya
L535[20:13:07] <Izaya> term API window +
timer (if polling) or event listener
L536[20:14:14]
<Marcel|Chaoschaot234> ok
L538[20:15:45]
<Marcel|Chaoschaot234> and to make it less
perfomance eeating I wanted to search for the component (e. g. the
generators) and adding the correct graph/diagram per component but
this should be simply done over "pairs/ipairs" if I am
not wrong
L539[20:18:09] <Izaya> you'd want to find
the components and stick the ones you want in a table, then iterate
over them each time
L540[20:19:45] <Izaya> hm, can't find the
docs on multiple windows :|
L542[20:21:11] <Izaya> you could make a
window for each section and run a coroutine to update each
window
L543[20:21:50] <Izaya> lets you do all the
drawing with VT100 control codes
L544[20:43:09]
<AdorableCatgirl> Izaya: We need to make a
huge old mass storage silo
L545[20:44:53] <Izaya> store what
L546[20:44:59] <Izaya> we talkin storage
drawers?
L547[20:46:52]
<AdorableCatgirl> oh i meant a big ol silo
we could store stuff in and request stuff from using a
computer
L548[20:47:14] <Izaya> even better
L549[20:47:25] <Izaya> IE crates +
drones
L550[20:48:31] <Izaya> 10584 slots per 3
rows
L551[20:48:43] <Izaya> assuming a 14x14
interior
L552[20:48:48] <Izaya> oh, not quite
L553[20:49:38] <Izaya> 10530 because you
need a gap for the drone to move between the rows
L554[20:51:20]
<AdorableCatgirl> IE?
L555[20:51:22]
<AdorableCatgirl> oH
L556[20:51:24]
<AdorableCatgirl> yeah
L557[20:51:38]
<AdorableCatgirl> also IE crates would let
us do a silo still i think
L558[21:02:23] <CompanionCube> Izaya: TIL
that impeachment nominally exists in the UK
L559[21:02:30] <CompanionCube> though
apparently it hasn't happened since 1806.
L560[21:19:26] <Izaya> Hah?
L561[21:21:42] <CompanionCube> though it
seems to be not the term-ender it is in the US
L562[21:23:29]
<AdorableCatgirl> a *term*inator
L564[21:27:20] <Izaya> There are people
that use ShareX here, right?
L565[22:25:27] <CompanionCube>
%tonkout
L566[22:25:31] <MichiBot> I'm sorry
CompanionCube, you were not able to beat CompanionCube's record of
10 hours, 44 minutes and 21 seconds this time. 10 hours, 12 minutes
and 11 seconds were wasted! Missed by 32 minutes and 9
seconds!
L567[22:25:42] <CompanionCube>
goddammif
L568[22:26:43] <Izaya> ouch
L570[22:36:02] <CompanionCube>
%juggle
L571[22:36:05] *
MichiBot juggles with more spiked pudding, a fairy, & a tiny
packet of dreams
L572[22:36:06] *
MichiBot doesn't drop anything
L573[22:36:07] <MichiBot> I did it!
L574[22:47:34] <CompanionCube> %loot
L575[22:47:37] <MichiBot> CompanionCube:
You get a loot box! It contains a Magic pink packet of powder!
(25%) (25%)
L576[22:47:58] *
CompanionCube sprinkles it over everyone
L577[22:48:36] <Izaya> today's dumb E:D
ship build:
L578[22:48:51] <Izaya> a mamba with the
beefiest engines available, with 100% fixed weapons
L579[22:48:59] <Izaya> can go as fast
backwards as most ships can go forwards
L580[22:49:05] <Izaya> so point at them,
fire, full reverse
L581[23:13:45]
<Ariri>
Izaya: I use ShareX, why?
L582[23:14:02] <Izaya> link I posted
immediately after
L583[23:14:13] <Izaya> ez self-hosted
destination for it
L584[23:14:15]
<Ariri> oh
yeah just looked
L585[23:14:30]
<Ariri> i
might look into that actually
L586[23:15:05]
<Ariri>
neat
L587[23:16:03] <Izaya> oh, immediately
before
L588[23:16:07] <Izaya> close enough
L589[23:18:23]
<Ariri>
%drink
L590[23:18:25] <MichiBot> You drink a
light quicksilver potion (New!). Ariri's nails turn the color of
rock for 8 moons.
L591[23:18:37] <Izaya> %drunk
L592[23:18:54]
<Ariri>
heh
L593[23:19:06] <Mimiru> Izaya, nice, if I
didn't already point my ShareX to my nextcloud I'd use the heck out
of that
L594[23:19:33] <Izaya> :D
L595[23:19:39]
<Ariri> that
reminds me i should make a nextcloud
L596[23:19:52]
<Ariri>
especially since my onedrive takes up 500 gigs on my disk
L597[23:20:07]
<Ariri> 400
of which are anime series for amvs...
L598[23:20:57] <Izaya> does that mean
you're like
L599[23:20:58] <Izaya> paying for it
L600[23:21:02] <Izaya> horrifying
L601[23:21:18]
<Ariri> it
comes with office 365 so eh
L602[23:22:16] <Izaya>
when I was in HS I used Google
Drive as a backup destination because I had no storage
limit
L603[23:22:57]
<Ariri>
nice
L604[23:22:57]
<Ariri> wait
does drive have desktop support?
L605[23:23:08] <Izaya> no idea
L606[23:23:15]
<Ariri>
hmm
L607[23:23:56]
<Ariri> i
think it might but honestly its be a hard manage with my 6 google
accounts
L609[23:29:28]
⇨ Joins: ba7888b72413a16a
(ba7888b72413a16a!~ba7888b72@66.109.211.150)
L610[23:42:46] <Izaya> I used some tool to
upload individual files
L611[23:42:57] <Izaya> gdrive is a
shitshow
L612[23:43:08] <Izaya> Multiple version
support is neat tho
L613[23:51:56]
<Ariri>
Tru
L614[23:52:40]
<Ariri> Is
there any limits to Nextcloud? Like a speed or size limit per time
interval or is it like a proxy for self-hosting
L615[23:54:15]
<Ariri>
Are*