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L1[01:12:37] <Forecaster> %sip
L2[01:12:37] <MichiBot> You drink a oxidised diamond potion (New!). Forecaster remembers an important appointment.
L3[01:12:51] <Forecaster> oh, I might need to go to work
L4[01:27:56] <Kleadron> %drink
L5[01:27:57] <MichiBot> You drink a shiny chocolate potion (New!). Kleadron turns into a titanium crocodile sheep boy until they say the word "Blatherskite".
L6[01:28:18] <Kleadron> You fuckin blatherskite
L7[01:28:42] <FeherNeoH> %sip
L8[01:28:42] <MichiBot> You drink a molten redstone potion (New!). FeherNeoH gains the ability to summon safety pins until they see a bird.
L9[01:29:01] <FeherNeoH> * closes his eyes
L10[02:00:53] ⇦ Quits: {Opsimath}Shawn ({Opsimath}Shawn!~shawn156@c-76-25-73-212.hsd1.co.comcast.net) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
L11[02:02:45] <FeherNeoH> %tonk
L12[02:02:46] <MichiBot> Jeepers! FeherNeoH! You beat CompanionCube's previous record of 2 hours, 49 minutes and 18 seconds (By 3 minutes and 12 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L13[02:02:47] <MichiBot> FeherNeoH's new record is 2 hours, 52 minutes and 31 seconds! FeherNeoH also gained 0.00015 (0.00005 x 3) tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L14[02:19:54] <Izaya> good news!
L15[02:20:02] <Izaya> PsychOS has better clipboard support now
L16[02:20:54] <Izaya> there's a daemon that listens for clipboard events and updates a global variable
L17[02:21:28] <Izaya> additionally, the editor knows about said global variable
L18[02:31:59] ⇨ Joins: ben_mkiv|afk (ben_mkiv|afk!~ben_mkiv@88.130.156.141)
L19[02:36:57] <Forecaster> does the editor hate the variable with a passion and consider it it's nemesis?
L20[02:44:34] ⇦ Quits: ba7888b72413a16a (ba7888b72413a16a!~ba7888b72@66.109.211.150) (Quit: WeeChat 2.5)
L21[02:45:22] * Lizzy yawns loudly
L22[02:45:59] <Izaya> Forecaster, yes
L23[02:46:05] <Izaya> that's why it copies from it relentlessly
L24[02:46:53] ⇨ Joins: ba7888b72413a16a (ba7888b72413a16a!~ba7888b72@66.109.211.150)
L25[02:50:11] <FeherNeoH> can we put tables/functions on it?
L26[02:50:36] <FeherNeoH> (I'm definitely not trying to break anyone's code)
L27[03:00:07] <FeherNeoH> finally figured out my CSS problem without asking anywhere
L28[03:00:26] <FeherNeoH> %pat FeherNeoH
L29[03:07:00] <Lizzy> %pet Lizzy
L30[03:07:01] <MichiBot> Lizzy: Don't pet yourself in public.
L31[03:07:17] <Lizzy> MichiBot, but you'll be petting me in public
L32[03:10:47] <FeherNeoH> Rewriting a 12-yo company website that has a static layout into something responsive and accessible can be difficult
L33[03:10:57] <FeherNeoH> even more so when one is a backend dev
L34[03:11:08] <FeherNeoH> (and even their backend code is dead)
L35[03:12:04] <FeherNeoH> I would be rather working on the emulator
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L37[03:14:56] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L38[03:31:34] <FeherNeoH> "He was an employee of <name hidden>’s talent agency, her personal driver, and probably her lover, as well as her servant or henchman or slave, or something along those lines."
L39[03:31:39] <FeherNeoH> guess the light novel
L40[03:40:11] <Forecaster> Fifty Shades of Grey
L41[03:44:47] <Izaya> FeherNeoH: you can, but I can't guarantee stuff will know how to handle it
L42[03:45:15] <Izaya> also the lack of tab completion for your name is very inconvenient
L43[03:45:16] <FeherNeoH> Izaya: so it handles them, okay
L44[03:45:41] <Forecaster> I have that in Irssi :P
L45[03:45:45] <Izaya> I should look into something to add recent bridge users to the user list
L46[03:46:00] <Forecaster> I made a script for it
L47[03:46:20] <FeherNeoH> Forecaster: wrong guess
L48[03:46:30] <Forecaster> I'm shocked
L49[03:46:44] <Forecaster> %sip
L50[03:46:45] <MichiBot> You drink a muddy blue potion (New!). Forecaster is now Borg until they see a unicorn.
L51[03:46:52] <Forecaster> Oh dear
L52[03:47:20] <Forecaster> Temia https://i.imgur.com/ZHGnCXO.jpg
L53[03:47:51] <Forecaster> Does this count as a unicorn
L54[03:48:27] <FeherNeoH> oh, an armored unit?
L55[03:48:56] <FeherNeoH> it might be an unicorn if it eats a single corn
L56[03:49:35] <asie> %sip
L57[03:49:35] <MichiBot> You drink a liquid aqua potion (New!). The bottle splits into two revealing a smaller seeping tiberium potion.
L58[03:49:48] <asie> %drink seeping tiberium poiton
L59[03:49:48] <MichiBot> This doesn't seem to be a potion I recognize...
L60[03:49:58] <asie> %drink seeping tiberium potion
L61[03:49:58] <MichiBot> The potion was inside you all along.
L62[03:50:05] <asie> :thonk:
L63[03:59:41] <CompanionCube> %drink
L64[03:59:41] <MichiBot> You drink a fluffy rock potion (New!). CompanionCube's bed is suddenly slightly less comfortable until the next time they hug someone.
L65[04:05:45] <FeherNeoH> %sip
L66[04:05:45] <MichiBot> You drink a solid strawberry potion (New!). FeherNeoH's bed is suddenly slightly less comfortable for 9 minutes.
L67[04:10:34] <asie> what's with all the beds
L68[04:10:36] <asie> %sip
L69[04:10:36] <MichiBot> You drink a smooth aether potion (New!). asie's nails turn orange for 8 moons.
L70[04:35:28] <Forecaster> High visibility nails
L71[04:42:54] <Lizzy> dammit, i left the noodles i was gonna have for lunch today at home
L72[04:44:22] <Forecaster> Ohno
L73[04:44:32] <Forecaster> You made a noodle mistake
L74[04:46:04] <Skye> %sip random
L75[04:46:05] <MichiBot> You drink a muddy amethyst potion (New!). Skye suddenly forgets a random piece of trivia.
L76[04:46:32] <Skye> Um... What class of train will the crossrail trains be again? I forgot...
L77[04:49:43] <Lizzy> %give MichiBot a questionable artifact
L78[04:49:44] * MichiBot accepts the questionable artifact and adds it to her inventory
L79[04:50:11] <Lizzy> %give MichiBot MichiBot
L80[04:50:18] <Lizzy> hmm
L81[04:55:46] <asie> %tonkout
L82[04:55:46] <MichiBot> Avada Kedavra! asie! You beat FeherNeoH's previous record of 2 hours, 52 minutes and 31 seconds (By 29 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L83[04:55:47] <MichiBot> asie has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.002 tonk points! plus 0.001 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 0.03507
L84[04:57:49] <Lizzy> :<
L85[04:57:52] <Lizzy> i was going to do that
L86[04:58:19] <Lizzy> i mean, i was gonna tonk so i could tonk out later and get all the points but still
L87[04:58:23] <Lizzy> %tonk
L88[04:58:24] <MichiBot> Voldemort! Lizzy! You beat asie's previous record of <0 (By 2 minutes and 37 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L89[04:58:25] <MichiBot> Lizzy's new record is 2 minutes and 37 seconds! Lizzy also gained 0.00004 tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L90[05:08:24] <asie> %tonk
L91[05:08:31] <asie> ahh, too early.
L92[05:20:38] <Lizzy> %tonk
L93[05:20:41] <MichiBot> By my throth! Lizzy! You beat your own previous record of 2 minutes and 37 seconds (By 19 minutes and 40 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L94[05:20:42] <MichiBot> Lizzy's new record is 22 minutes and 17 seconds! No points gained for stealing from yourself. (Lost out on 0.00033)
L95[05:20:58] <FeherNeoH> and I just got back from lunchbreak...
L96[05:22:52] ⇨ Joins: Inari (Inari!~Pinkishu@pD9E39C93.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
L97[05:24:50] <Lizzy> lol, a video i uploaded to youtube last november which has been pretty much unviewed and also in unlisted mode just got a copyright claim because i was playing "gas gas gas" in it
L98[05:25:28] <Lizzy> well done youtube
L99[05:25:37] <FeherNeoH> youtube and copyright calims/strikes
L100[05:25:46] <FeherNeoH> it's not even funny anymore
L101[05:25:49] <Izaya> semi-related, anyone got a peertube instance they could recommend?
L102[05:26:00] <Izaya> half inclined to set one up myself on a VPS, but also >nodejs
L103[05:26:08] <FeherNeoH> not until I start hosting it
L104[05:26:22] <FeherNeoH> oh, it's node
L105[05:26:28] <FeherNeoH> then ignore what I said
L106[05:26:38] <Izaya> pretty much x_x
L107[05:26:56] <FeherNeoH> even Gitlab is a pain to host
L108[05:27:00] <Lizzy> Izaya, i might set up an instance if i get the new job i'm going for
L109[05:27:06] <FeherNeoH> just give me PHP or ASP.Net
L110[05:27:08] <Izaya> shiny
L111[05:27:15] <FeherNeoH> spare me with node/rails
L112[05:27:20] <Izaya> FeherNeoH: I've been running gitea it's rather pleasant
L113[05:27:34] <Izaya> I'm no fan of Go but they publish builds so I find it difficult to care
L114[05:27:50] * Lizzy just uses the Gitlab CE omnibus package
L115[05:27:54] <FeherNeoH> one of my half-abandoned projects is a git Net Core server
L116[05:28:45] <Lizzy> hmm, peer tube also needs PostgreSQL.. yeah that'll be something i set up later because my server is already quite full
L117[05:28:51] * Lizzy hmms
L118[05:28:57] <Izaya> PSQL is aight
L119[05:28:59] <FeherNeoH> my shared account system is still not ready to be deployed, so any of my projects which would depend on it are on hold
L120[05:29:09] <Izaya> much lighter than I remember MySQL/MariaDB being
L121[05:29:33] <FeherNeoH> I have PSQL set up for gitlab too
L122[05:29:40] <FeherNeoH> but I still prefer using mariadb
L123[05:29:46] <Lizzy> Izaya, interesting, i always thought it was slightly heavier due to having more stuff
L124[05:29:48] <FeherNeoH> got too used to it
L125[05:30:13] <Izaya> Using it for Pleroma, Prosody and Gitea in my setup.
L126[05:30:46] <Lizzy> I suppose i could bump up the ram for Chamber (my current MariaDB server) and then put postgresql along side it
L127[05:33:02] <Izaya> psql is using about 300M on here, I think
L128[05:33:09] <Lizzy> ah, okay
L129[05:33:39] <Izaya> ignore the graphs at the top, this is in a container https://imgur.com/4AUwQTE.png
L130[05:34:25] <Lizzy> though really i want to kinda re-do my whole server setup and try to make it more optimised
L131[05:34:32] <FeherNeoH> how difficult is it to set up a PSQL replication&failover cluster?
L132[05:34:48] <Izaya> not sure what to make of this, pretty sure a portion of the virt is shared between most of the psql-related processes
L133[05:34:50] <FeherNeoH> might migrate my projects over from mariadb
L134[05:35:00] <Izaya> honestly, never tried
L135[05:35:12] <Izaya> all of this stuff is running on one physical server
L136[05:35:27] <FeherNeoH> same for me at the moment
L137[05:35:33] <FeherNeoH> but that will change
L138[05:35:42] <FeherNeoH> also I don't use containers
L139[05:35:50] <Izaya> well, it's definitely a thing one can do but I've never tried
L140[05:35:52] <Lizzy> most of my stuff is on one server, but Chamber's MariaDB instance replicates to my home server
L141[05:36:14] <FeherNeoH> I just handconfigure every server to run on restricted accounts
L142[05:36:33] <Lizzy> well, by one server i mean one physical server
L143[05:36:41] <Lizzy> i have stuff seperated into VMs
L144[05:36:44] <FeherNeoH> and use ONE service running as root to update the configs and restart services when needed
L145[05:36:56] <Izaya> I appreciate that I can run stuff in totally different environments with a relatively small overhead vs VMs
L146[05:37:08] <Izaya> don't get nearly as much cross-contamination
L147[05:37:23] <FeherNeoH> yeah, that's always useful
L148[05:37:28] <Lizzy> yeah, i might switch to containers for some of my stuff, a lot of it could be easily containerised
L149[05:37:44] <Izaya> also non-static memory amounts
L150[05:37:53] <FeherNeoH> no separate free storage space fragments in virtual disks, not wasted free RAM pieces
L151[05:37:56] <Izaya> (you can restrict it but I haven't had any issues yet)
L152[05:38:42] <Lizzy> the problem with full VMs is that you can have dynamic memory, but once it uses a certain amount it sometimes doesn't "deflate" the usage on the host system
L153[05:38:57] <FeherNeoH> my main reason for not using VMs for hosting is the RAM splitting
L154[05:39:02] <FeherNeoH> yeah
L155[05:39:18] <Forecaster> %sip
L156[05:39:19] <MichiBot> You drink a freezing spice potion (New!). The next remote Forecaster looks for is extra hard to find.
L157[05:39:31] <Forecaster> again
L158[05:39:40] <FeherNeoH> the VM only knows what hasn't been used yet
L159[05:39:43] <Forecaster> I haven't looked for a remote since the last one...
L160[05:39:45] <FeherNeoH> not what is no longer used
L161[05:40:23] <Lizzy> with stuff like QEMU's Guest Agent, i think it can start deflating the ram usage a bit
L162[05:40:35] <Izaya> yeah you can use a balloon driver but that's only so much use tbh
L163[05:40:42] <FeherNeoH> yeah, if the guest provides that info it can work
L164[05:40:44] <Lizzy> but it still wont be as snappy as if it was a container
L165[05:41:05] <Lizzy> also aparrently with QEMU you can have a dynamic allocation of CPU cores
L166[05:41:10] <Lizzy> idk how the fuck that works
L167[05:41:22] <FeherNeoH> even VBox supports that
L168[05:41:30] <FeherNeoH> you can hotplug cores
L169[05:41:34] <FeherNeoH> and unplug them
L170[05:42:21] <FeherNeoH> with a guest-side service you can make it listen for CPU eject messages and automaticall turn the core off from the kernel before the VM releases it
L171[05:42:45] <Lizzy> though who knows, maybe some perks from my new job (if i get it, hopefully i do) could help me host higher-power servers without costing an arm and a leg
L172[05:42:53] <Izaya> imagine not having a desktop replicant to enable or disable CPU cores
L173[05:43:03] <FeherNeoH> ?
L174[05:43:27] <FeherNeoH> VBox doesn't have an UI for it
L175[05:43:29] <Izaya> haiku has a program that lets you enable or disable CPU cores, as well as shows you the usage for each
L176[05:43:42] <FeherNeoH> Oh, neat
L177[05:43:46] <Izaya> you can drag the buttons out and enable/disable cores if you so desire
L178[05:43:52] <Izaya> not sure why you would but I like it
L179[05:44:07] <Lizzy> maybe going into a kinda power-saving mode?
L180[05:44:29] <FeherNeoH> only time I have ever disabled cores on Linux was on shitty LG phones
L181[05:44:41] <FeherNeoH> where half of the cores just died
L182[05:45:32] <FeherNeoH> but supposedly my double-xeon server supports hotswapping the secondary CPU this way
L183[05:45:37] <FeherNeoH> never tried it
L184[06:00:21] * Inari disables @FeherNeoH's FPGA controller core
L185[06:06:01] <Inari> I wish there were more OC centric mods tbh
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L187[06:12:44] <FeherNeoH> the only OC-addon I use is OCDevices...
L188[06:13:05] <FeherNeoH> (as OCARM is far from working)
L189[06:14:49] <Izaya> computronics is <3
L190[06:15:07] <Izaya> tfw considering writing an entirely in-memory forth system for the express purpose of making sense to write to tape
L191[06:15:46] * Lizzy wants to play around with the tapes some more
L192[06:16:34] <Inari> But Computronics is just addons to use OC with other omds, Mods that aren't made for OC
L193[06:17:01] <Inari> I mean stuff like. A reactor mod, but that requires either a complex redstone circuit or OC to control, because it has components that are too fast to handle otherwise. Or at least very suboptimal to do manually
L194[06:17:15] <Izaya> Inari: objectively false
L195[06:17:24] <Inari> ?
L196[06:17:26] <Izaya> but yes I like the idea of stuff that is impractical without computer control
L197[06:17:32] <Izaya> Computronics adds a bunch of content of its own
L198[06:17:38] <Inari> I guess so :P
L199[06:24:12] <Bob> Railcraft + Computronis + Charset Wires :GWlulurdMmmYea:
L200[06:24:54] * Lizzy declares it lunch time
L201[06:27:55] * AmandaC follows after Lizzy hoping to get some breakfast
L202[06:28:45] <Izaya> "A doctor in a doctor's suit!"
L203[06:29:02] <Izaya> David Tennant > * but also Matt Smith is pretty alright
L204[06:30:11] <Lizzy> I liked all of the new-who (2005 onwards) doctors, though i haven't fully finished watching through 13's run
L205[06:30:28] <Skye> The 13th doctor is alright, but stories aren't the best.
L206[06:30:37] <Izaya> that's uh
L207[06:30:39] <Izaya> Peter Capaldi?
L208[06:30:45] <Lizzy> nope, Jodie
L209[06:30:51] <Lizzy> Capaldi was 12
L210[06:30:58] <Izaya> oh, so he was
L211[06:30:59] <Izaya> carry on
L212[06:32:36] <Izaya> honestly I didn't get beyond the first season of Capaldi last I tried
L213[06:32:42] <Izaya> but there was also only one season so ???
L214[06:32:54] <Lizzy> wasn't there two?
L215[06:33:03] <Izaya> at the time, only one was out
L216[06:33:09] <Lizzy> usually the season changes when the companion does
L217[06:33:09] <Lizzy> ah
L218[06:33:39] <Izaya> that said, whatsherface with Capaldi was cute
L219[06:33:41] <Izaya> uh
L220[06:33:51] <Lizzy> Clara?
L221[06:33:54] <Izaya> that's the one
L222[06:34:58] <Lizzy> yeah, i feel that their relationship changed a bit with 12's regeneration and the fact that it became more like clara was having anormal life and then just hanging out with the doctor every so often
L223[06:35:17] <Lizzy> rather than them being with the doctor all the way until their death or departure
L224[06:35:41] <Izaya> much preferred her to the Ponds, and ^ was nice
L225[06:36:00] <Izaya> oh hey here she is
L226[06:36:11] <Izaya> S07E01
L227[06:36:13] <Izaya> nice
L228[06:36:28] <Lizzy> was that The Bells of St John?
L229[06:36:37] <Izaya> Asylum of the Daleks
L230[06:36:41] <Lizzy> ah
L231[06:37:30] <Izaya> https://pics.me.me/bbc-this-is-clara-not-my-assistant-shes-er-some-22303922.png
L232[06:37:33] <Izaya> excellent scene
L233[06:37:40] <Lizzy> Clara's introduction was a bit rough in my view, but that's just because she was a reoccuring character that kept dying each episode
L234[06:38:16] <Lizzy> yep, i loved 12 and Clara's relationship
L235[06:38:17] <Izaya> also what's with the new technicolour daleks?
L236[06:38:25] <Izaya> was that ever explained or is it just kinda a thing
L237[06:38:42] <Lizzy> they came about during one of Matt Smith's episodes
L238[06:38:52] <Lizzy> one of his earlier ones IIRC
L239[06:38:52] <Izaya> yeah
L240[06:39:02] <Izaya> the one in the blitz
L241[06:39:05] <Lizzy> yup
L242[06:39:27] <Izaya> they were just kinda there IIRC
L243[06:40:21] <Lizzy> IIRC the darleks were wanting to evolve, so they broke out of the timewar (somehow, despite the fact that it's supposed to be timelocked) found something that had their original dna in it, got the doctor to confirm that they were darleks and then off they went back to the time war
L244[06:40:42] <Kodos> %tonkout
L245[06:40:43] <MichiBot> Consarn it! Kodos! You beat Lizzy's previous record of 22 minutes and 17 seconds (By 57 minutes and 43 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L246[06:40:44] <MichiBot> Kodos has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.001 tonk points! Current score: 0.92277
L247[06:40:57] <Kodos> Ah I missed a bit
L248[06:41:16] <Inari> Dunno why I didn't try vertical taskbar before
L249[06:41:18] <Inari> It's so good
L250[06:41:41] <Izaya> XFCE4 panel deskbar mode is <3
L251[06:42:12] <jackie> vertical taskbars are great for non-tiling setups ^^
L252[06:42:26] <Izaya> ohey jackie
L253[06:42:34] <jackie> hi \o
L254[06:42:59] <asie> %tonk
L255[06:42:59] <MichiBot> Jeepers! asie! You beat Kodos's previous record of <0 (By 2 minutes and 16 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L256[06:43:00] <MichiBot> asie's new record is 2 minutes and 16 seconds! asie also gained 0.00004 tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L257[06:43:11] <Inari> Also vertical tabs
L258[06:43:23] <Izaya> I want vertical window decorations
L259[06:43:33] <Izaya> don't think XFWM4 can do that though
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L261[06:43:37] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexaton
L262[06:43:41] <jackie> sadly no WM I know can do vertical window decoration ^^
L263[06:44:04] <Izaya> I think awesomewm can do it if you don't mind writing the functionality yourself
L264[06:44:07] <asie> computronics is a great addon, and it is far from being just compat
L265[06:44:07] <Izaya> also fvwm
L266[06:44:17] <asie> now if i only convinced Vexaton to put it on CF so that modpacks would actually use it
L267[06:44:29] <Izaya> >amazon products
L268[06:44:31] <Izaya> bleh
L269[06:44:41] <asie> modding is an amazon product now
L270[06:44:50] <Izaya> this kills the Izaya
L271[06:44:51] <asie> the year is 2019 and jeff bezos with his near-infinite wealth also happens to control modding
L272[06:44:58] <asie> very indirectly, but in theory
L273[06:45:01] <jackie> ^^
L274[06:46:31] ⇦ Quits: Vexatos (Vexatos!~Vexatos@port-92-193-35-223.dynamic.qsc.de) (Ping timeout: 206 seconds)
L275[06:46:36] *** Vexaton is now known as Vexatos
L276[06:46:46] <Izaya> why can't modding be an asie product
L277[06:47:02] <asie> because i work a full-time job and am not able to work on fabric full-time
L278[06:47:03] <Vexatos> because amazon.pl is not a thing
L279[06:47:14] <jackie> good point ^^
L280[06:47:16] <Inari> Make a mod that just runs a lambda function
L281[06:47:18] <Izaya> oh that's fair carry on
L282[06:47:28] <asie> if the modding community manages to employ me, i will work for it; simple
L283[06:47:54] <jackie> that should be doable with a bit of "internet! do your thing!"-power :3
L284[06:48:29] <Lizzy> Like that hasn't ever backfired before
L285[06:48:54] <asie> jackie: i refuse to be pushy about it
L286[06:49:03] <asie> modding should not be a for-profit endeavor; i'm just saying what the reality is like
L287[06:49:09] <asie> i don't have the passion for modding, or minecraft, i once used to have
L288[06:49:22] <asie> so the only thing which can replace raw passion is tangible money
L289[06:50:21] <asie> but i feel the money should go to more passionate developers who are doing more for my projects *right now*
L290[06:51:06] <Skye> asiezon.pl
L291[06:52:04] <asie> ... or their own projects, FWIW
L292[06:56:25] <Forecaster> https://i.imgur.com/iqEXQ2S.png
L293[06:57:17] <Forecaster> %tonk
L294[06:58:42] <Lizzy> %tonk
L295[06:58:42] <MichiBot> Waesucks! Lizzy! You beat asie's previous record of 2 minutes and 16 seconds (By 13 minutes and 26 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L296[06:58:43] <MichiBot> Lizzy's new record is 15 minutes and 43 seconds! Lizzy also gained 0.00022 tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L297[06:58:46] <Lizzy> nyahahahaha
L298[07:01:53] <Forecaster> D:<
L299[07:03:33] <Forecaster> %sip
L300[07:03:33] <MichiBot> You drink a sour tuna potion (New!). Forecaster feels chill.
L301[07:03:40] <Forecaster> Brrr
L302[07:10:30] <Forecaster> Also eugh, sour tuna
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L304[07:15:10] * AmandaC cuddles up against Lizzy, yawns
L305[07:15:20] <Izaya> clara and rory have better chemistry than amy and rory
L306[07:16:26] * Lizzy cuddles AmandaC
L307[07:18:26] <jackie> %tonk
L308[07:18:26] <MichiBot> Sard! jackie! You beat Lizzy's previous record of 15 minutes and 43 seconds (By 4 minutes)! I hope you're happy!
L309[07:18:27] <MichiBot> jackie's new record is 19 minutes and 43 seconds! jackie also gained 0.00007 tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L310[07:19:51] <FeherNeoH> w....
L311[07:20:02] <FeherNeoH> where are he seconds?
L312[07:20:05] <FeherNeoH> *the
L313[07:22:05] <AmandaC> It was exactly 4 minutes, so they're not nessary
L314[07:23:05] <Forecaster> Why would you write out 0 seconds
L315[07:23:10] <The_Stargazer> ^
L316[07:28:58] <Izaya> dinosaurs, on a space ship
L317[07:29:07] <Izaya> I'm sure there's a Starbound mod for that.
L318[07:30:57] <FeherNeoH> my problem is not them not being written out
L319[07:31:07] <FeherNeoH> but them not being needed
L320[07:31:37] <Forecaster> what
L321[07:33:14] <AmandaC> oh, I think I see. Lizzy's tonk was replied at 07:58:43 jackie's at 08:18:27 (ET)
L322[07:34:15] <AmandaC> I think MichiBot's clock is running slow gain
L323[07:34:39] <Inari> Lets try Haskell
L324[07:34:44] <Inari> Lets install this lnaguage server
L325[07:34:58] <Inari> 60 minutes later: still compiling the stupid language server
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L328[07:48:05] <asie> %tonk
L329[07:48:06] <MichiBot> Willikers! asie! You beat jackie's previous record of 19 minutes and 43 seconds (By 9 minutes and 55 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L330[07:48:07] <MichiBot> asie's new record is 29 minutes and 39 seconds! asie also gained 0.00017 tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L331[07:52:23] <Forecaster> https://xkcd.com/2186/
L332[07:52:24] <MichiBot> XKCD Comic Name: Dark Matter Posted on: 8/7/2019
L333[07:59:12] <Inari> But what if Dark Matter is squirrels
L334[08:00:48] <AmandaC> %8ball ONI for a couple hours?
L335[08:00:48] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Reply hazy, try again
L336[08:02:20] <AmandaC> %8ball ONI for a couple hours?
L337[08:02:21] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Reply hazy, try again
L338[08:02:27] <AmandaC> %bap the 8ball
L339[08:02:27] * MichiBot baps the 8ball with the Shiny anti-pudding! (10%)
L340[08:03:05] <Inari> %choose ONi or not ONI
L341[08:03:05] <MichiBot> Inari: Elementary dear Watson, "ONi" is the obvious choice!
L342[08:03:54] <Lizzy> Onichan
L343[08:04:39] <Inari> Oniichan
L344[08:05:46] <Inari 『 おにいでれ 』> please be done, please be done http://tinyurl.com/y4j7bkee
L345[08:06:36] <Inari 『 おにいでれ 』> Hey corded still be bugged
L346[08:07:42] <Forecaster> haha
L347[08:08:58] <Inari> I have no clue the heck this is doing
L348[08:09:10] <Inari> It' been compilnig for almost 2 hours now or something ¬_¬
L349[08:12:03] <Inari> Half thinking its running in a loop tbh
L350[08:13:04] <Lizzy> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGNiXGX2nLU
L351[08:13:04] <MichiBot> Dead Or Alive - You Spin Me Round (Like a Record) (Official Video) | length: 3m 17s | Likes: 896,186 Dislikes: 31,314 Views: 128,299,771 | by DeadOrAliveVEVO | Published On 23/8/2012
L352[08:20:03] <FeherNeoH> Well, my longest compile time was ~26 hours
L353[08:23:20] <Inari> :f
L354[08:23:43] <Inari> If your project takes that long to build, provide prebuilt stuff
L355[08:23:50] <Forecaster> the only thing I've compiled is MichiBot
L356[08:24:07] <Lizzy> %tonk
L357[08:24:07] <MichiBot> Heckgosh! Lizzy! You beat asie's previous record of 29 minutes and 39 seconds (By 6 minutes and 22 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L358[08:24:08] <MichiBot> Lizzy's new record is 36 minutes and 1 second! Lizzy also gained 0.00011 tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L359[08:24:14] <Inari> Apparently its supposed to tkae 20 minutes though, at least on their CI
L360[08:24:35] <Lizzy> it probably has some beefy hardware or lots of system resources or something
L361[08:25:08] <Inari> Heh
L362[08:25:33] <Inari 『 おにいでれ 』> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/vorihoviwi
L363[08:25:33] <Inari 『 おにいでれ 』> On their CI. I find the end amusing
L364[08:26:54] <FeherNeoH> Inari: I was building Firefox OS on an underpowered laptop
L365[08:27:09] <FeherNeoH> OLD dualcore pentium with 2GB RAM
L366[08:27:37] <FeherNeoH> clean builds took over a day, incremental builds about 16 hours
L367[08:34:35] <The_Stargazer> hmm
L368[08:34:57] <The_Stargazer> can't decide between deleting neptunia re;birth 3 and downloading anime or keeping RB3
L369[08:36:07] <The_Stargazer> eh I'll just delete the nep, can always re-nep
L370[08:39:42] <Forecaster> or... can you
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L372[08:40:22] <Inari> Get a better HDD?
L373[08:40:31] <The_Stargazer> it's uh
L374[08:40:34] <The_Stargazer> a usb
L375[08:40:44] <The_Stargazer> and, probably I should
L376[08:44:15] <FeherNeoH> that's why I just stream anime
L377[08:44:23] <FeherNeoH> they take up too much space
L378[08:45:03] <FeherNeoH> stopped downloading since I don't have 3 hour bus rides twice a week
L379[08:46:46] <The_Stargazer> problem with that is I don't have internet for long enough periods
L380[08:47:52] <AdorableCatgirl> lol just get better internet lmao
L381[08:48:03] <FeherNeoH> Yeah, I know/knew that feeling
L382[08:48:35] <FeherNeoH> * goes home, disconnects from wifi and watches anime/plays Fallout76 from mobile data till midnight
L383[08:48:41] <Inari> Anime doesn't take up much space
L384[08:48:42] <Inari> o.o
L385[08:48:55] <FeherNeoH> ~30GB/season?
L386[08:49:08] <The_Stargazer> as in, I don't literally have internet access for long periods of time sometimes
L387[08:49:10] <Inari> Why do you need a whole season at once
L388[08:49:31] <FeherNeoH> well, half season at least
L389[08:49:44] <Inari> Also not sure what you're downloading, but my files tend to be around 500mb
L390[08:49:49] <Inari> So 6gb for a season
L391[08:49:54] <FeherNeoH> considering my bus trip from univ to home and back took over 3 hours one way
L392[08:50:04] <FeherNeoH> I could watch a season over a round trip
L393[08:50:07] <Forecaster> http://tinyurl.com/yxdfxnx6
L394[08:50:22] <The_Stargazer> Yeah, my anime is usually like, 600MB at most for one episode
L395[08:50:28] <The_Stargazer> at the very most
L396[08:50:56] <FeherNeoH> single voice single sub I guess
L397[08:51:13] <FeherNeoH> not the multi-voice multi-sub ones
L398[08:51:14] <The_Stargazer> yea.
L399[08:51:21] <The_Stargazer> mostly dub, no subs
L400[08:51:29] <FeherNeoH> I prefer subbed
L401[08:51:32] <FeherNeoH> but that's just me
L402[08:51:51] <AdorableCatgirl> FALLOUT
L403[08:51:52] <AdorableCatgirl> 76
L404[08:51:53] <Inari> We need more decentralized chat systems
L405[08:51:59] <Inari> group chat systems, specifically
L406[08:52:06] <AdorableCatgirl> C O U N T R Y R O A D S
L407[08:52:13] <S3> Inari: how would you like a project to decentralize IRC?
L408[08:52:23] <S3> it already has all of the infrastructure of protocol fo rit
L409[08:52:35] <FeherNeoH> @AdorableCatgirl just downloaded it to my work laptop today
L410[08:52:42] <AdorableCatgirl> But why
L411[08:52:46] <AdorableCatgirl> why would you do that
L412[08:52:46] <FeherNeoH> wasn't bored at work
L413[08:52:49] <FeherNeoH> not at all
L414[08:52:53] <Inari> S3: Works I guess, though I'd prefer a more modern protocol
L415[08:52:59] <AdorableCatgirl> why not new vegas mp
L416[08:53:04] <The_Stargazer> what if your boss finds you playing fallout at work
L417[08:53:10] <S3> you can always built a protocol on top of IRC
L418[08:53:28] <S3> OR
L419[08:53:28] <FeherNeoH> @The_Stargazer won't happen
L420[08:53:38] <S3> you can build IRC on top of a protocol for doing decentralization
L421[08:53:51] <S3> that would let you make adaptors to convert messages to different chat endpoints
L422[08:53:56] <asie> IRC has always been federated though
L423[08:53:58] <S3> IRC, XMMP(eww) etc
L424[08:53:59] <asie> then the trolls came
L425[08:54:03] <FeherNeoH> @AdorableCatgirl because I actually have friends playing this one
L426[08:54:06] <asie> and it split into hundreds of little networks
L427[08:54:10] <S3> yes
L428[08:54:14] <asie> I observe calmly as the fediverse has the same happen to it
L429[08:54:21] <AdorableCatgirl> dam but fallout 76 sux
L430[08:54:29] <FeherNeoH> which part?
L431[08:54:41] <FeherNeoH> it's not any more buggy than other Bethesda games
L432[08:55:22] <Inari> asie: As long as I can't add my own server to a given network and am at the mercy of the networks' OPs, it isn't decentralized enough imo
L433[08:55:31] <asie> Guess what you could do before Eris.
L434[08:55:33] <S3> not necessarily true FeherNeoH
L435[08:55:40] <asie> Anyone could become an IRCop, if they only added a server.
L436[08:55:41] <S3> it has all of the bugs they had before + new ones XD
L437[08:55:48] <Forecaster> arguing against fun is dumb
L438[08:55:49] <asie> (Simplified. But, well, it was lax.)
L439[08:55:52] <AdorableCatgirl> maybe i haven't played enough of modern fallout games, but from what i've played of fallout 76
L440[08:55:56] <AdorableCatgirl> it's a big yikes
L441[08:56:00] <Forecaster> I'm not going to bed F76, but if you like it go wild
L442[08:56:07] <Forecaster> ...
L443[08:56:09] <Forecaster> get
L444[08:56:11] <AdorableCatgirl> i didn't play 4
L445[08:56:12] <AdorableCatgirl> so
L446[08:56:14] <Forecaster> get F76
L447[08:56:20] <Inari> asie: I just don't like that someone can control and shut down a channel for example
L448[08:56:29] <FeherNeoH> only played 76, but saw 3 and 4 many times
L449[08:56:36] <asie> Sure. In an "anyone can add my own server" world, you can just flood a channel instead, to effectively shut it down.
L450[08:56:42] <AdorableCatgirl> i play the FUCK out of NV
L451[08:56:42] <FeherNeoH> and listened to my roomates cursing because of the glitches
L452[08:56:50] <Forecaster> I like 4, I'ma do a letsplay on it sometime
L453[08:57:04] <Inari> asie: Sure, so there needs to be some protection against that. And with "shut down" I mean the IRCops or such, not the actual people running the channel
L454[08:57:05] <FeherNeoH> not sure if I have 4
L455[08:57:10] <asie> Sure.
L456[08:57:11] <AdorableCatgirl> i also play STALKER, patched to shit but w/e
L457[08:57:14] <FeherNeoH> I got 3 for like $1 on G2A
L458[08:57:15] <asie> But right now I could shut down an IRC channel, if I wanted to.
L459[08:57:24] <asie> Just by periodically spamming it with offensive messages. You've seen it happen.
L460[08:57:46] <Inari> Maybe, it's a different issue though
L461[08:58:09] <asie> It's the flip side of what you're proposing. Allowing anyone to hook up a server, at least with the way IRC is designed, means trouble.
L462[08:58:22] <asie> A model where each server owns its channels is a tad more sensible.
L463[08:58:38] <Inari> Well I didn't mean it should be literally like current IRC
L464[08:58:53] <Inari> Server owning their channels means you're dependant on the server owner though
L465[08:59:03] <FeherNeoH> end of day, finally
L466[08:59:06] <asie> But what stops me from abusing my server admin powers on the other channel?
L467[08:59:15] <asie> Like, you can't stop this technologically. Not to a sufficient degree.
L468[08:59:22] <asie> So you need humans. At some point in the chain.
L469[08:59:40] <Inari> Sure
L470[08:59:56] <asie> And so, you will be at mercy of *someone*, at all times.
L471[09:00:11] <Inari> Depends
L472[09:00:15] <asie> Be it an OP, a moderator, some kind of watchguard person, or - conversely - trolls and terrible people
L473[09:00:26] <asie> I don't see a magical middle ground that somehow avoids both
L474[09:00:31] <Inari> I just want a channel thats always reachable and can't just be deleted I guess
L475[09:00:41] <S3> then stay in it
L476[09:00:48] <asie> %tonk
L477[09:00:49] <MichiBot> By my throth! asie! You beat Lizzy's previous record of 36 minutes and 1 second (By 39 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L478[09:00:50] <MichiBot> asie's new record is 36 minutes and 41 seconds! asie also gained 0.00001 tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L479[09:01:02] <Inari> S3: Server admin closes it, server shuts down, channel gone
L480[09:01:08] <S3> Hmm
L481[09:01:49] <S3> I have an idea then
L482[09:02:35] <Inari> (at least its less likely to happen with IRC than with say Discord, but still)
L483[09:02:55] <S3> I think I could make something like this that uses IRC tbh
L484[09:03:26] <S3> by creating IRCD microservers
L485[09:03:30] <asie> As I said: I don't think it's not sabotageable. You just shift the point of sabotage from "one server admin in position of authority" to "anyone with a botnet"
L486[09:03:40] <S3> clients can use things liek CTCP to transfer images etc for people to see
L487[09:03:44] <Inari> https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/cn5zc5/when_the_promoted_ad_proves_you_right/
L488[09:03:47] <S3> to enhance the IRC experience
L489[09:03:52] <Inari> asie: Thats always the case though
L490[09:04:07] <asie> No, because the server admin can step in and just ban the botnet globally, or even add auto-detection tools
L491[09:04:12] <asie> as happened with the GNAA attacks (last year?)
L492[09:04:17] <Inari> Can the clients not?
L493[09:04:24] <S3> so my question is Inari what would you want to happen if your friend has a channel and they stop hosting it but you're still in it?
L494[09:04:32] <S3> do you want the channel to live on because you're part of it
L495[09:04:33] <asie> Sure they can. But at this point we're talking about a custom protocol in its entirety.
L496[09:04:43] <asie> And it's much easier to enact a rule on one server than on many clients
L497[09:04:57] <asie> much easier on many servers than on many clients, even.
L498[09:04:59] <Inari> Sure. I'm fine with custom protocols
L499[09:05:45] <The_Stargazer> I wonder, how many downloads can firefox do at once
L500[09:05:51] <The_Stargazer> chrome can do at most six
L501[09:06:27] <asie> Doesn't the limit depend on the HTTP server and not on the browser?
L502[09:07:06] <The_Stargazer> Hmm
L503[09:07:23] <The_Stargazer> No idea
L504[09:07:23] <Inari> Anyway
L505[09:07:24] <Inari> Have to reboot
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L507[09:07:40] <The_Stargazer> But chrome's done max 6 from two different servers
L508[09:07:46] <The_Stargazer> so I'd say chrome's max is six
L509[09:07:55] <S3> You know years ago I was part of a contest to make a chat server
L510[09:08:08] <S3> maybe I should create a new one like Inari wants it'd be kind of fun
L511[09:08:22] <S3> something with an alternative to SSL as well
L512[09:08:26] <S3> becauseI don't trust SSL
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L514[09:10:05] <S3> Inari: I think I want to make a new chat system
L515[09:10:09] <S3> non IRC
L516[09:10:10] <Inari> Haha
L517[09:10:18] <S3> I'll explain my reasoning
L518[09:10:30] <Temia> Botnets are frequently thwarted with a properly-configured server anyway
L519[09:10:31] <S3> years ago I was patr of a network security group and we ha a contest to make the best chat server client system
L520[09:10:35] <S3> it was a lot of fun
L521[09:10:52] <Temia> Just fragmenting the servers sounds like a terrible idea as such, increasing the workload of various services.
L522[09:11:09] <Temia> And frankly, the whole thing reeks of Discord fetishism.
L523[09:11:14] <Temia> Soooo fuck the whole lot of that.
L524[09:11:34] <Inari> Temia: How so? Discord is exactly what I want to avoid by that haha
L525[09:12:22] <The_Stargazer> oof, 40kb/s
L526[09:12:56] <Temia> At a UX rather than topology level.
L527[09:13:06] <S3> heh.
L528[09:13:12] <S3> Discord is amazing under the hood
L529[09:13:15] <S3> but it is centralized
L530[09:13:21] <Temia> Sure, Discord is horribly top-down, but it's also designed to have a bunch of horribly isolated servers with opt-out channels
L531[09:13:24] <S3> it runs on what was it, 5 or 7 servers
L532[09:13:39] <Temia> Or rather, "servers"
L533[09:13:42] <Inari> Discord is alright. I just wish I could have a custom channel list
L534[09:13:43] <Temia> Why do they even call them that.
L535[09:13:50] <Inari> Temia: They don't
L536[09:13:53] <Inari> They call them guilds
L537[09:13:58] <Temia> That's news to me.
L538[09:14:10] <Inari> Hm
L539[09:14:11] <Temia> They still refer to them as servers in my interface.
L540[09:14:13] <Inari> I guess they do in some parts
L541[09:14:29] <Inari> So they can be servers
L542[09:14:31] <S3> So I'm thinking the chat protocol will be custom for the main information. Built in things like chat information etc, but say features like sending images, etc- would be done using some sort of MIME thing maybe
L543[09:14:59] <S3> because depending on something like JSON for your primary data is kind of weird.
L544[09:15:03] <S3> it's kind of 2019
L545[09:15:19] <Inari> Isn't there ProtoBuf and the like
L546[09:15:24] <S3> yes
L547[09:15:33] <S3> protobuf isn't too bad.
L548[09:15:39] <S3> that's for binary protocols
L549[09:15:54] <S3> Ithink for the most basic of features an ASCII/ UTF-8 protocol is probably just fine
L550[09:16:04] <S3> kind of like the way IRC works but simpler
L551[09:16:28] <S3> it would have support for transmitting binary packed information using its extensions
L552[09:16:34] <S3> or json, msgpack, etc
L553[09:16:41] <S3> depends on the MIME types
L554[09:17:00] <S3> for example you might specify the mime type as text/plain for transmitting plain text
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L556[09:17:50] <S3> I dunno
L557[09:18:16] <The_Stargazer> aight, i'mma go watch anime
L558[09:18:16] <The_Stargazer> bye
L559[09:18:19] <S3> I definitely believe though depending on SSL is a bad idea
L560[09:18:26] <S3> for encryption
L561[09:18:35] <The_Stargazer> (also closing discord bc ALL THE BANDWIDTH IS NEEDED)
L562[09:18:56] <S3> key pair identification is still perfectly fine
L563[09:19:11] <Temia> ' -' ...
L564[09:19:13] * Temia pulls lever
L565[09:19:32] * Temia ejects out of this conversation
L566[09:20:32] <S3> llol
L567[09:20:35] <S3> poor Temia
L568[09:21:20] <Temia> There are some conversations I won't touch with a standard issue 10 ft. pole and cryptography is one of them
L569[09:21:33] <S3> LOL
L570[09:22:06] <S3> It's really a minor issue with the whole project idea
L571[09:24:53] <AmandaC> Lizzy: let's play ONI goodnews/badnews!
L572[09:25:18] <AmandaC> Lizzy: good news: I've cleared out most of the slimelung germs from my base. Bad news: Everyone's starving. ._.
L573[09:25:52] <Lizzy> Lol
L574[09:28:25] <S3> oci as in oni chan?
L575[09:28:30] <S3> oni*
L576[09:28:40] <AmandaC> No, I'm not Inari
L577[09:28:48] <AmandaC> ONI as in Oxygen Not Included
L578[09:28:52] <S3> as quoted on reddit, the best quote in all anime according to vote: "Oni chan, my hips are moving on their own!"
L579[09:29:00] <Inari> *Onii
L580[09:29:05] <S3> yes
L581[09:29:32] <Inari> Also ugh
L582[09:29:39] <Inari> Whys it so hard to install Win10 SDK
L583[09:54:06] <FeherNeoH> ?
L584[09:54:20] <FeherNeoH> What is hard about it?
L585[09:54:31] <Inari> It not wanting to install
L586[09:54:50] <FeherNeoH> Standalone or VS?
L587[09:55:11] <Inari> Standalone, probably?
L588[09:55:16] <Inari> I downloaded an installer from MS :D
L589[09:56:03] <FeherNeoH> I usually install W10 SDKs with the VisualStudio installer
L590[09:56:18] <FeherNeoH> Unless I need Insider ones
L591[09:56:54] <Inari> Apparently it's already installed and the installer is just stupid
L592[09:56:58] <Inari> But it can't be installed because I lack stuff
L593[09:57:30] <FeherNeoH> What is missing?
L594[09:59:02] <Inari> Windows assembly (dependency)
L595[09:59:05] <Inari> For e.g. Windows.Devices
L596[09:59:53] <FeherNeoH> That should be .NET, not WinSDK
L597[10:00:17] <Inari> It's part of WinSDK
L598[10:00:49] <FeherNeoH> What should it provide?
L599[10:01:13] <FeherNeoH> Bcoz it sounds more like a WDK component
L600[10:02:22] <Inari> It's for installing UWP stuff
L601[10:02:25] <Inari> Well
L602[10:02:27] <Inari> Not instaling UWP stuff
L603[10:02:31] <Inari> But it handles UWP stuff too, or so
L604[10:03:05] <FeherNeoH> VCRT for UWP then maybe?
L605[10:03:54] <FeherNeoH> (could help more if I wasn't on phone)
L606[10:05:22] <Kraetzin> Hey guys. I'm having an issue using robots to harvest tall Botania flowers. When I use the `robot.swing()` method with shears equipped on the robot, nothing happens. Doing the equivalent on small flowers works fine. Is there a way to harvest the tall mystical flowers using robots?
L607[10:07:19] <Kraetzin> The robot isn't able to break the tall flowers regardless of tool, for that matter
L608[10:07:42] <Kraetzin> (At least I haven't found a tool that it can use to break them yet)
L609[10:17:46] <Mimiru> %octime
L610[10:17:46] <MichiBot> Mimiru: 2019-Aug-07 15:17:46
L611[10:17:56] <Mimiru> clock looks right
L612[10:19:29] <Forecaster> or does it...
L613[10:19:38] <Corded> * <Forecaster> stares at a clock
L614[10:21:16] <Lizzy> %tok
L615[10:21:19] <Lizzy> %tonk
L616[10:21:19] <MichiBot> Dogast! Lizzy! You beat asie's previous record of 36 minutes and 41 seconds (By 43 minutes and 48 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L617[10:21:21] <MichiBot> Lizzy's new record is 1 hour, 20 minutes and 30 seconds! Lizzy also gained 0.00073 tonk points for stealing the tonk.
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L619[10:34:29] <The_Stargazer> why is my connection always so SLOW
L620[10:34:50] <Forecaster> someone's standing on the cable probably
L621[10:35:14] <The_Stargazer> is wifi
L622[10:35:20] <The_Stargazer> phone refuses to use usb tethering
L623[10:35:24] <The_Stargazer> >plugged into laptop
L624[10:35:25] <The_Stargazer> >USB NOT CONNECTED
L625[10:35:31] <Forecaster> someone's standing on the wifi signals
L626[10:35:41] <The_Stargazer> haha
L627[10:35:54] <FeherNeoH> @The_Stargazer try a custom ROM
L628[10:35:58] <FeherNeoH> (if you can)
L629[10:36:09] <The_Stargazer> not my phone and I don't wanna brick it
L630[10:36:14] <The_Stargazer> dunno how to flash a ROM
L631[10:36:15] <FeherNeoH> oh, I see
L632[10:36:35] <The_Stargazer> doesn't that involve rooting?
L633[10:36:37] <FeherNeoH> I talk easily with 5/6 people in my family using the same model
L634[10:36:58] <FeherNeoH> if you have a ~8 years old phone, then it probably involves rooting
L635[10:37:10] <FeherNeoH> if it's new, then rooting probably involves flashing
L636[10:37:39] <The_Stargazer> either way, rooting is involved it seems
L637[10:37:50] <FeherNeoH> rooting is not a must at all
L638[10:38:08] <The_Stargazer> still, no idea how to flash a rom
L639[10:38:28] <Mimiru> Step 1.) Get a trench coat.
L640[10:38:36] <Mimiru> Step 2.) Get naked except the trench coat.
L641[10:38:57] <Mimiru> Step 3.) Stand the phone up, stand facing the phone, and open the trench coat.
L642[10:38:59] <FeherNeoH> step 1: hardbrick your first smartphone on your way home from the phone shop
L643[10:39:04] <Mimiru> Step 4.) ?????
L644[10:39:08] <Mimiru> Step 5.) Profit
L645[10:39:33] <FeherNeoH> nowadays it's more like
L646[10:39:47] <FeherNeoH> step 1: get a phone that can actually be unlocked
L647[10:40:10] <The_Stargazer> doesn't developer options have an 'unlock bootloader' menu?
L648[10:40:16] <The_Stargazer> er, option
L649[10:40:27] <FeherNeoH> it should be "allow bootloader to be unlocked"
L650[10:40:36] <The_Stargazer> yes, that's it
L651[10:40:43] <FeherNeoH> if you have that, then it's probably a won fight
L652[10:41:13] <The_Stargazer> 'OEM unlocking'
L653[10:41:21] <FeherNeoH> that's the same
L654[10:41:32] <The_Stargazer> the option is there, yes
L655[10:41:38] <FeherNeoH> as the normal unlock command is "oem unlock"
L656[10:41:49] <The_Stargazer> ah
L657[10:41:53] <The_Stargazer> fastboot or something?
L658[10:41:56] <The_Stargazer> or adb
L659[10:41:56] <FeherNeoH> yeap
L660[10:42:02] <FeherNeoH> fastboot
L661[10:42:06] <FeherNeoH> only fastboot
L662[10:42:08] <The_Stargazer> ah
L663[10:42:23] <FeherNeoH> anyone who says it involves ADB is lying
L664[10:42:31] <The_Stargazer> i have an old tablet magazine issue (big thing) with a bit on rooting
L665[10:42:37] <FeherNeoH> so don't believe 99% of the tutorials
L666[10:43:05] <The_Stargazer> so because the phone has the option, I can flash a custom ROM?
L667[10:43:11] <The_Stargazer> will that help matters any though
L668[10:43:19] <FeherNeoH> what brand is it?
L669[10:43:28] <The_Stargazer> alcatecl
L670[10:43:33] <The_Stargazer> however you spell that
L671[10:43:36] <FeherNeoH> ouch
L672[10:43:44] <FeherNeoH> that's how you spell that
L673[10:43:47] <The_Stargazer> onetouch pixi 4
L674[10:43:52] <The_Stargazer> ok good
L675[10:43:59] <FeherNeoH> don't even bother then
L676[10:44:20] <The_Stargazer> not mine anyway, my mother's
L677[10:44:26] <The_Stargazer> she is very against the idea of rooting it
L678[10:44:40] <The_Stargazer> (although she probably doesn't actually know what rooting *is*)
L679[10:44:49] <FeherNeoH> yeah, probably
L680[10:45:04] <FeherNeoH> and again, on modern phones you don't actually need root for custom ROMs
L681[10:45:20] <FeherNeoH> most custom ROMs aren't even rooted by default
L682[10:45:59] <The_Stargazer> i don't think a custom rom will help the connection issues though
L683[10:46:59] <FeherNeoH> I don't think you'll ever find a working custom ROM for it
L684[10:47:08] <FeherNeoH> (or stock)
L685[10:47:36] <FeherNeoH> that phone is something I would even be afraid to connect my charger to
L686[10:47:43] <FeherNeoH> because it might break it
L687[10:47:53] <FeherNeoH> or more like they might break each other
L688[10:48:16] <The_Stargazer> you get what you pay for
L689[10:48:26] <The_Stargazer> the same applies to this laptop
L690[10:48:48] <FeherNeoH> yeah, $30 phones are...
L691[10:48:54] <FeherNeoH> well, only phones
L692[10:49:02] <The_Stargazer> $70 actually
L693[10:49:07] <FeherNeoH> impossible
L694[10:49:09] <The_Stargazer> iirc atleast
L695[10:49:16] <FeherNeoH> THAT THING?
L696[10:49:19] <The_Stargazer> nzd
L697[10:49:22] * AmandaC curls up against Lizzy, having just given up for now on un-fucking her colony. People died, people are stress-vomiting everywhere, power doesn't last long enough to get people their water
L698[10:51:08] <FeherNeoH> just realized that my load balancer and botserver is running from a 8GB microSD
L699[10:51:13] <FeherNeoH> time to migrate
L700[10:51:24] <AdorableCatgirl> i need to activate my LG Stylo
L701[10:51:34] <AdorableCatgirl> my OG stylo
L702[10:51:45] <AdorableCatgirl> the 16GB one
L703[10:54:50] * Lizzy cuddles the AmandaC
L704[10:55:42] * AmandaC mewls softly
L705[10:56:15] <AmandaC> going to download some updated ebooks to my ereader then veg out for a bit before, ttfn, nerds
L706[10:59:13] <AmandaC> %roll 1d3 1d2
L707[10:59:14] <MichiBot> [3] + [1] = 4
L708[10:59:23] <AmandaC> k, now ttfn
L709[11:09:15] * Temia curls upa gainst Amanda and Lizzy. Stomach hurts. x.x
L710[11:10:19] <The_Stargazer> hmm.. is there a linux CLI way to rip PS2 disks?
L711[11:11:08] <The_Stargazer> linux because laptop doesnt have an ODD
L712[11:12:54] <The_Stargazer> and CLI because I only have a shell
L713[11:13:15] <The_Stargazer> i have access to wget and udpkg and standard busybox utils but that's pretty much it
L714[11:14:38] * Lizzy curls round Temia, purrs softly to try and help
L715[11:15:20] <Temia> I don't recall what security measures PS2 discs have to prevent standard ISO ripping, myself
L716[11:16:14] <Lizzy> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGMR6FHey68&t=665s
L717[11:16:15] <MichiBot> How the Sony Playstation 2 Security Was Defeated | MVG | length: 12m 36s | Likes: 17,009 Dislikes: 294 Views: 591,928 | by Modern Vintage Gamer | Published On 22/4/2019
L718[11:17:10] <asie> ISO ripping? nothing
L719[11:17:12] <asie> you just make an ISO, boom ,done
L720[11:19:33] <Temia> There you have it then, Stargazer
L721[11:22:29] <Temia> You could literally just dd from /dev/cd0
L722[11:31:56] <The_Stargazer> so just `dd if=/dev/sr0 of=ps2game.iso`?
L723[11:32:28] <The_Stargazer> and then play that ISO in PCSX2?
L724[11:32:49] <Lizzy> in theory, yes
L725[11:32:57] <The_Stargazer> in practice?
L726[11:33:08] <Lizzy> probably
L727[11:33:10] <Temia> I mean, try it and see
L728[11:33:16] <The_Stargazer> worth a shot
L729[11:33:16] <Lizzy> %tias
L730[11:33:20] <Temia> There's nothing to lose but time
L731[11:33:24] <Lizzy> okay, that's not ao command
L732[11:33:43] <Temia> %tiahole
L733[11:33:54] <The_Stargazer> the disc won't go nope and refuse to play in the PS2 if I attempt to rip it or something?
L734[11:34:06] <Lizzy> wait
L735[11:34:19] <Lizzy> are you trying to run it in PCSX2, or a normal PS2
L736[11:34:22] <Lizzy> ?
L737[11:34:30] <Temia> How would it even do that
L738[11:34:32] <AdorableCatgirl> so @The_Stargazer
L739[11:34:33] <The_Stargazer> run the iso from dd in PCSX2
L740[11:34:37] <AdorableCatgirl> oh
L741[11:34:41] <AdorableCatgirl> okay
L742[11:34:45] <The_Stargazer> or something
L743[11:34:47] <AdorableCatgirl> i was gonna say
L744[11:34:48] <Temia> Hell
L745[11:34:50] <Lizzy> i mean, it shouldn't do
L746[11:34:54] <The_Stargazer> - make an iso
L747[11:34:54] <The_Stargazer> - run it in pcsx2
L748[11:35:01] <AdorableCatgirl> if you wanna play it on a real PS2
L749[11:35:06] <The_Stargazer> or wait, does pcsx2 use a bin/cue file combo
L750[11:35:18] <Temia> pcsx2 uses ISOs.
L751[11:35:19] <Lizzy> it can run isos from what i remember
L752[11:35:28] <The_Stargazer> ok good
L753[11:35:30] <AdorableCatgirl> then you need fmcb and OPL
L754[11:35:37] <Temia> But ISOs are pretty much sector-by-sector copies of the disc so you're probably fine
L755[11:35:46] <The_Stargazer> ok good
L756[11:35:50] <The_Stargazer> so i'll just dd it
L757[11:35:54] <The_Stargazer> shove it on a usb
L758[11:35:56] <The_Stargazer> play it
L759[11:35:57] <The_Stargazer> ???
L760[11:35:59] <Temia> And the disc is not about to self destruct the moment an optical drive looks at it since it's the same wavelength laser
L761[11:35:59] <The_Stargazer> profit
L762[11:36:04] <Temia> pretty much
L763[11:36:12] <Temia> Whatcha playing anyhow?
L764[11:36:25] <The_Stargazer> haven't gone through the list
L765[11:36:36] <The_Stargazer> none of them are mine, but I wanted to rip them so I can play them whenever
L766[11:36:42] <Temia> If Ar Tonelico 2 is on that list, patch that shit
L767[11:36:49] <The_Stargazer> patch it?
L768[11:36:50] <Temia> If not, carry on
L769[11:36:52] <Temia> Patch it.
L770[11:36:56] <The_Stargazer> What
L771[11:37:07] <Temia> That game is bugged af in the west
L772[11:37:14] <The_Stargazer> right
L773[11:37:17] <The_Stargazer> never even heard of it so
L774[11:37:26] <Temia> RPGs about singing girls
L775[11:37:28] <Temia> tl;dr
L776[11:37:39] <Temia> Also cute gay shit(TM)
L777[11:37:54] <AdorableCatgirl> also Okami
L778[11:38:04] <Temia> Okami is also good
L779[11:38:23] <The_Stargazer> okay, so i'll just dd it
L780[11:38:29] <The_Stargazer> nothing can go wrong with dd
L781[11:38:37] <The_Stargazer> absolutely NOTHING
L782[11:39:05] <The_Stargazer> it doesn't have the ability to overwrite an entire device with zeros, no
L783[11:39:19] <Temia> I mean, it does, but you'd have to explicitly tell it to
L784[11:39:39] <Temia> And if you manage to do that while reading from a block device and writing to a file...
L785[11:39:41] <Temia> Well
L786[11:39:43] <The_Stargazer> right, gonna switch screen over to box-that-will-be-used-to-rip-PS2-discs
L787[11:39:53] <Temia> I'd love to know how you managed it
L788[11:40:07] <The_Stargazer> double dd
L789[11:40:12] <The_Stargazer> do two of them at the same time
L790[11:40:57] <The_Stargazer> step 1.) break out of the OC sandbox and run dd on the host (with oc's threads)
L791[11:40:58] <The_Stargazer> step 2.) ???
L792[11:40:58] <The_Stargazer> step 3.) profit
L793[11:40:59] <AdorableCatgirl> okami needs patches i think
L794[11:41:21] <Temia> 1. If OC is running as root that's its own problem
L795[11:41:23] <AdorableCatgirl> or you need to enable things for your GS emulator
L796[11:41:27] <AdorableCatgirl> i forgot
L797[11:41:40] <Temia> 2. I feel like this has gone beyond the scope of the current conversation
L798[11:41:46] <The_Stargazer> Yes
L799[11:41:59] <The_Stargazer> my cat has decided to sit on my desk
L800[11:42:04] <The_Stargazer> in front of my keyboard
L801[11:42:09] <The_Stargazer> (at least he's not ON my keyboard)
L802[11:42:21] <Temia> If he walks across it, DON'T press delete
L803[11:42:24] <Temia> Or do
L804[11:42:26] <Temia> I'm not your mom
L805[11:42:47] <The_Stargazer> seems to be sitting happily
L806[11:42:54] <Temia> Good.
L807[11:43:19] <Temia> It'd be a shame to lose you to the madness of absorbing a lot of 90s pop culture trivia from direct web exposure
L808[11:43:31] <The_Stargazer> whar
L809[11:43:35] <The_Stargazer> what*
L810[11:43:46] <Temia> Oh come on
L811[11:43:51] <Temia> Am I the only one here who's seen Freakazoid?!
L812[11:44:02] <The_Stargazer> i've uh never heard of that
L813[11:44:26] <Temia> welp.
L814[11:44:29] <Temia> amanda, I'm dead.
L815[11:44:31] <Temia> rip.
L816[11:44:42] <Temia> bury me with my animoos
L817[11:45:15] <Temia> I feel like I aged another 30 years with that sentence alone
L818[11:45:21] <The_Stargazer> what's your biggest anime folder size
L819[11:45:42] <The_Stargazer> someone here has 30GB/season
L820[11:45:54] <The_Stargazer> or something like that
L821[11:46:15] <Temia> Tiger & Bunny at 33GBs, apparently
L822[11:46:27] <Temia> Second to that is Patlabor at 23GBs.
L823[11:52:57] * Mimiru screams
L824[11:53:17] * Lizzy wonders why Mimiru is screaming
L825[11:53:36] <Mimiru> Oh, just peoples stupidity. That's all. (Work related)
L826[11:53:55] <Lizzy> ah, i know somewhat to what that's like
L827[11:54:10] <Lizzy> idk if that made sense, brain kinda shut off for a bit
L828[11:54:16] <Mimiru> heh
L829[11:56:27] * AmandaC schedules Temia 's soul to be reincarnated in another universe as a fairy
L830[11:56:40] <Temia> \o/
L831[11:56:57] <Forecaster> %sip
L832[11:56:57] <MichiBot> You drink a smelly diamond potion (New!). Forecaster thinks "What if, like, *we* are the potions man?". This makes no sense whatsoever.
L833[11:57:03] <Lizzy> ffs oni
L834[11:57:05] <Temia> based charon
L835[11:57:23] <Temia> %quaff mutable aether potion
L836[11:57:23] <MichiBot> Temia turns into a sword girl until Sozin's Comet returns.
L837[11:57:28] <Temia> Welp
L838[11:57:34] <Forecaster> heh
L839[11:57:44] ⇨ Joins: baschdel_ (baschdel_!~baschdel@2a01:5c0:13:da81:852a:cf0c:a2c4:ea4e)
L840[11:58:00] <Temia> This potion turned me into a lesbian I guess. turned into? I mean I was already pretty well toeing the line
L841[11:58:03] <Temia> %actualshrug
L842[11:58:03] <MichiBot> Temia: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L843[11:58:45] <Forecaster> %sip mutable iron potion
L844[11:58:45] <MichiBot> Forecaster turns into a fox boy until they see a unicorn.
L845[11:58:52] <Forecaster> kay
L846[11:59:10] <Temia> Foxboys
L847[11:59:14] * Temia thumbsup
L848[11:59:27] * Temia is instantly crushed underneath Sozin's comet
L849[12:00:15] * Lizzy sighs
L850[12:01:06] <Forecaster> I need to work in more TLAB references
L851[12:05:22] <AmandaC> Lizzy: what'd your duplicants do now?
L852[12:05:53] * AmandaC thinks she'll read some more before jumping back in and seeing when her last save was
L853[12:06:00] <Lizzy> the game kept saying that a mod had updated and it needed to restart, figured out a way around it by just pressing escape
L854[12:06:11] <AmandaC> ah
L855[12:06:11] <Lizzy> and at the moment i'm just buggering about in sandbox mode
L856[12:13:43] <Temia> %quaff mutable radiation potion
L857[12:13:47] <Temia> Oops.
L858[12:13:48] <Temia> %quaff mutable radiation potion
L859[12:13:49] <MichiBot> Temia turns into a fish girl for 4 hours.
L860[12:13:51] <Temia> :O
L861[12:14:09] <Corded> * <Forecaster> puts temia in a pool
L862[12:14:15] * Temia fishes around
L863[12:16:40] <S3> so
L864[12:16:43] <S3> STARBASE
L865[12:16:51] <Forecaster> AH
L866[12:16:54] <Corded> * <Forecaster> falls over
L867[12:17:01] <Corded> * <Forecaster> into the pool
L868[12:18:22] <Temia> rip
L869[12:18:44] * Temia pushes Forecaster out of the pool so the water isn't contaminated by a corpse
L870[12:18:55] <Forecaster> thanks, I guess :P
L871[12:19:45] <Temia> You're welcome~ o/
L872[12:19:51] * Temia resumes fishing around
L873[12:20:18] * Temia returns with a dry sponge and drops that on Forecaster so he doesn't pervade the room with wet fox smell
L874[12:20:44] <Forecaster> where did you get a sponge...
L875[12:21:07] * Lizzy hides her sponge stash
L876[12:38:26] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L877[12:38:27] * Lizzy sighs
L878[12:38:27] <MichiBot> Zounderkite! CompanionCube! You beat Lizzy's previous record of 1 hour, 20 minutes and 30 seconds (By 56 minutes and 37 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L879[12:38:28] <MichiBot> CompanionCube's new record is 2 hours, 17 minutes and 7 seconds! CompanionCube also gained 0.00188 (0.00094 x 2) tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L880[12:38:35] <Lizzy> fucking gpu / driver issues
L881[12:39:14] <FeherNeoH> I don't have any such problems
L882[12:39:26] <FeherNeoH> *looks at WebGL games crashing all the time
L883[12:39:45] <Lizzy> in other news i forgot how loud the vega is when it's fan is going full tilt
L884[12:40:10] <Forecaster> as long as it doesn't take off
L885[12:41:26] <Lizzy> k, think it's cool enough now for me to be able to take it out
L886[12:41:44] <Forecaster> *the fan turns on and the card flies off*
L887[12:50:59] <Lizzy> okay, got my old 970 swapped back in, the right-most screen thinks it's the left most one but that should be easy to fix
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L889[12:52:05] <Lizzy> hmm, i wonder if i actually have any gpu acceleration
L890[12:52:15] <Lizzy> cause i don't have the nvidia driver installed anymore
L891[12:53:14] <Lizzy> oh, noveau is on the system, that's cool
L892[12:59:45] <Lizzy> aand the gui has frozen
L893[12:59:48] <Lizzy> -_-
L894[13:00:07] <Jewson> So I stumbled on a little problem
L895[13:00:34] <Jewson> I created thread with `while true do` loop
L896[13:00:40] <Jewson> And forgot to detach from it
L897[13:00:47] <Jewson> And it is in autorun script
L898[13:01:12] <Jewson> And now after reboot of pc I'm stuck in this http://tinyurl.com/y6cjlb9b
L899[13:01:20] <Jewson> Is there anything I can do
L900[13:01:22] <Jewson> ?
L901[13:01:37] <baschdel> That looks like a job for a backup floppie
L902[13:01:57] <Lizzy> put the drive in another computer or use a floppy (take the drive out first and put back in once booted)
L903[13:02:20] <Lizzy> okay, so killing ONI restored use of the gui....
L904[13:03:55] <Jewson> It doesn't work
L905[13:04:07] <Jewson> When I boot from floppy and boot it
L906[13:04:20] <Jewson> And then put drive in it just runs autorun script
L907[13:04:24] <AmandaC> you have to take the harddrive out until it's booted first
L908[13:05:22] <Jewson> Yes that's what I did
L909[13:05:33] <Jewson> Is there any command to disable autorun scripts
L910[13:05:35] <Jewson> ?
L911[13:07:17] <AmandaC> there's a command for it, yes, but I forget what it is
L912[13:07:49] <baschdel> opening a lua shell and running filesystem.setAutorunEnabled(false) should do the job
L913[13:09:01] <Lizzy> hmm, so whenever i load into an ONI game the noveau driver has issues..... yay
L914[13:09:13] <Jewson> That did not work
L915[13:11:19] <baschdel> I see no other call to disable autorun scripts ... let me start minecraft
L916[13:13:59] <Jewson> ok got it to work
L917[13:14:17] <Jewson> So you have to have working copy of openos
L918[13:14:31] <Jewson> and disable autorun in that
L919[13:14:37] <Jewson> and disable autorun in that copy of opens [Edited]
L920[13:14:46] <Jewson> But it have to be installed
L921[13:15:17] <Gary Gygax> open computer work is really rough
L922[13:15:33] <Gary Gygax> me and my friend built some servers and it was like, the roughest shit
L923[13:21:54] <Jewson> http://tinyurl.com/yxw4dfl4
L924[13:22:06] <asie> So, I'll have an OC build for you to test...
L925[13:22:24] <Jewson> Even though I use detach function on thread the thread still blocks open os
L926[13:24:17] <Jewson> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/homidojozu
L927[13:24:26] <Jewson> Whole code
L928[13:25:42] <FeherNeoH> doesn't it have to yield time-to-time for it to be non-blocking?
L929[13:26:01] <Jewson> What do you mean?
L930[13:26:29] <FeherNeoH> giving back the CPU to other threads
L931[13:27:00] <FeherNeoH> I always had to add yields to my workers those did not pull events
L932[13:27:40] <Jewson> So here is code from official oc wiki: `local detached_thread = thread.create(function() end):detach()`
L933[13:28:15] <FeherNeoH> yeah, that looks okay
L934[13:28:30] <FeherNeoH> but your function never yields
L935[13:29:05] <Jewson> Could you explain me what yields in this context means
L936[13:29:10] <Bob> sleep
L937[13:29:18] <Bob> Lua uses cooperative multitasking
L938[13:29:25] <Bob> so while one thread works ,all other sleep and so on
L939[13:29:36] <Bob> so to make other threads work, your active thread must sleep / tield
L940[13:29:39] <Bob> yield
L941[13:30:34] <FeherNeoH> https://ocdoc.cil.li/api:thread#thread_yield_pull_without_blocking_example
L942[13:31:10] <FeherNeoH> that 'coroutine.yield()' should do the magic
L943[13:31:21] <FeherNeoH> I would put it at the end of the loop
L944[13:34:44] <asie> https://asie.pl/files/OC174-VBOTest.jar <- this version of OpenComputers includes major reworking to the screen rendering system
L945[13:34:56] <asie> in the config ifle it generates, you can choose between "vbo" and "displaylist"
L946[13:35:22] <asie> I would like to see performance metrics between the two, across Intel/AMD/nVidia cards and OSes, and if you feel REALLY generous you can also check how the FPS compared between the latest official OC release
L947[13:35:24] <asie> thanks!
L948[13:35:57] <Bob> if i could profile that
L949[13:36:30] <asie> actually, you can, somewhat
L950[13:36:35] <Bob> Lag Goggles ?
L951[13:36:40] <asie> for client-side rendering? :D
L952[13:36:45] <Bob> It has yes
L953[13:36:48] <Bob> FPS
L954[13:36:51] <AmandaC> payonel: is there a reason that ocvm copies the default configuation in into the env dir, instead of just reading it? I ask because it's causing problems making new machines, because the path to the default config is read-only with how I'm packaging it
L955[13:36:53] <Bob> i need a new world
L956[13:36:56] <asie> anyhow, this version outputs limited performance profiling data in the Shift+F3 menu
L957[13:36:58] <Bob> and place like a dazilion screens
L958[13:37:02] <asie> it's not that simple
L959[13:37:13] <asie> whether or not these screens refresh contents often or not also affects performance
L960[13:37:15] <asie> differently in both cases
L961[13:37:21] <Bob> if you tell me the steps, you can get the result from a GTX 560 ?
L962[13:37:32] <asie> i don't have concrete steps
L963[13:37:35] <asie> i'll take in all the data i can get, tho
L964[13:37:49] <asie> i'm mostly curious on whether new-displaylist or new-vbo wins across platforms
L965[13:37:58] <Bob> and is your jar working with your wires, so if it works ill keep it
L966[13:38:00] <asie> they should both be at least a bit faster than old-displaylist (OC 1.7.4)
L967[13:38:04] <asie> also sure yeah it does
L968[13:38:11] <Bob> ?
L969[13:38:14] <asie> doesn't mean you should keep it tho
L970[13:38:25] <Bob> im a rebel
L971[13:38:26] <asie> my OC test builds will be increasingly less stable - this one is fine to keep
L972[13:38:41] <asie> but i want to merge some big JNLua optimizations and those may mess with stuff in testing
L973[13:38:46] <Lizzy> oh good, nouveau is also having issues with just rendering chrome and the desktop...
L974[13:39:17] * Lizzy suspects that she has some form of driver issue rather than 2 faulty gpus
L975[13:43:49] <FeherNeoH> not sure about desktop (and Linux), but since I got my new desktop PC, Chrome is acting up
L976[13:44:21] <FeherNeoH> Sites randomly go black then reload, WebGL crashes, the whole renderer freezes for minutes
L977[13:46:45] <Lizzy> okay, killing chrome and discord allowed it to continue doing display stuff...
L978[13:47:04] <Bob> OpenOS's edit crashes on trying to paste https://raw.githubusercontent.com/IgorTimofeev/MineOS/master/Screensavers/Matrix.lua
L979[13:48:05] <S3> Lizzy: this is what you get for using nouveau
L980[13:48:06] <S3> lol
L981[13:48:22] <S3> I almost always had to build the proprietary drivers
L982[13:48:50] <Lizzy> S3, well, i couldn't be arsed to go fuck about with nvidia's drivers when all i wanted to do was just test to see if it was my Vega64 fucking up or something in my kernel
L983[13:49:10] <FeherNeoH> any time I used those not only GL apps stopped working, but even pulseaudio refused to load until I went back to novu
L984[13:49:15] <Jewson> Ok it worked with `coroutine.yield()`
L985[13:51:27] <Lizzy> hmm, i have a feeling that the vega might not like having one/two of the ground pins not connected...
L986[13:51:54] <Lizzy> that or this old hardware is having it's usual shit with gpu stuff
L987[13:52:05] <S3> I would expect a lot more problems
L988[13:52:13] <S3> but you can always throw it in the oven if you trust yourself
L989[13:52:21] <Lizzy> i don't
L990[13:52:23] <S3> (please do not do that with an expensive card)(
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L992[13:53:05] <FeherNeoH> I only ever did that with phones
L993[13:53:08] <FeherNeoH> and it worked
L994[13:54:00] <Lizzy> yay, remmina is segfaulting so i can't even remote into the "crapbench i put my vega in to see if it's at least booted
L995[13:54:43] <Lizzy> also the fonts for my terminal have fucked up
L996[13:54:45] <Lizzy> yay
L997[13:55:46] <Bob> Asie i got 8 screens running and updating and my fps are 40, can you send the jar ?
L998[13:56:07] <Lizzy> he linked it above
L999[13:58:54] <Bob> http://tinyurl.com/y5jkvt5c
L1000[13:59:15] <Bob> with OC screens visible http://tinyurl.com/yy4rv8ms
L1001[13:59:25] <Bob> and when not
L1002[13:59:28] <Bob> http://tinyurl.com/y592533u
L1003[13:59:44] <asie> that data is meaningless without context
L1004[13:59:48] <asie> comparing with other renderers, say
L1005[14:00:28] <Bob> when im looking at OC screens game render takes 85% while not only 36%
L1006[14:00:36] <Bob> so 8 Oc screens slow down my GPU a lot
L1007[14:07:24] <asie> yes but i can't put that number into perspective
L1008[14:07:37] <asie> i can't check "is this renderer more efficient than that one", or "is this version of OC more optimized"
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L1011[14:09:09] <Lizzy> well, after a kernel update, other than my fps dropping a bit, it seems to actually run....
L1012[14:09:34] <AmandaC> %choose ONI or Anime
L1013[14:09:34] <MichiBot> AmandaC: My grandfather always told me that "ONI" is the way to go!
L1014[14:09:39] <Bob> http://tinyurl.com/y3st6mp8
L1015[14:09:51] <Bob> Here with your implementation i actually reach 60 fps and have fps limit strike in
L1016[14:09:52] <Lizzy> okay, i turned compton on to stop tearing and now the gpu is having a spaz
L1017[14:09:54] <AmandaC> Right, let's see how fucked my colony is
L1018[14:09:54] <Lizzy> -_-
L1019[14:11:03] <Bob> http://tinyurl.com/yxcemhz6
L1020[14:11:07] <Bob> lemme now paste all the screenies togheter
L1021[14:11:29] <Lizzy> oh, okay
L1022[14:11:49] <Lizzy> killing compton then re-starting it whilst ONI is not loaded fixed the weird graphics shit
L1023[14:12:28] <Lizzy> "restart required" how about no, ONI?
L1024[14:15:41] <Bob> Asie
L1025[14:15:46] <Bob> http://tinyurl.com/y2krdeb2
L1026[14:15:51] <Bob> this should tell a bit what happens
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L1028[14:15:54] <Bob> also GTX 650
L1029[14:15:59] <Jewson> `os.clock()` returns time in minutes?
L1030[14:16:00] <AdorableCatgirl> okay
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L1033[14:18:17] <Lizzy> okay we're now back to the issue i had earlier
L1034[14:18:21] * Lizzy sighs
L1035[14:18:50] <Lizzy> i just want to play fucking oni
L1036[14:19:01] * Lizzy flips tables
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L1038[14:19:33] <Lizzy> fuck it
L1039[14:19:39] <Lizzy> i'll just play it on my laptop
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L1041[14:20:24] <asie> @Bob better
L1042[14:21:03] <Jewson> Does `os.clock` retunrs time in minutes?
L1043[14:21:13] <Jewson> Does `os.clock` returns time in minutes? [Edited]
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L1045[14:23:51] <Forecaster> seconds
L1046[14:24:03] <AmandaC> %8ball should I keep trying to save this ONI colony?
L1047[14:24:03] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Ask again later
L1048[14:24:33] <AmandaC> %8ball should I keep trying to save this ONI colony?
L1049[14:24:33] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Without a doubt
L1050[14:24:38] <AmandaC> but....
L1051[14:24:41] <AmandaC> Nah,
L1052[14:25:24] <Bob> Asie, if you got other builds that i can test, im in, #betterFutureForOC, as i have low end hardware
L1053[14:25:33] <AmandaC> MAybe some day I'll go and save "The Happy Timeline" colony, but not today. I'm emotionally and mentally exhaysted by trying to put out those fires.
L1054[14:26:39] <Lizzy> oh so that's why my terminal font looks like shit
L1055[14:26:51] <Jewson> @Forecaster This would not match what you say because this two commands where executed with a minute delay http://tinyurl.com/y4lye2no
L1056[14:27:00] <Jewson> And yes I actually took stoper
L1057[14:29:09] <Forecaster> oh, I was thinking of the world time one then
L1058[14:29:26] <Jewson> Ok computer.uptime returns in second
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L1060[14:29:38] <Jewson> I need to make timer so I need refernce at least in seconds
L1061[14:29:45] <Jewson> Minutes would do
L1062[14:29:59] <Jewson> But `computer.uptime()` returns in second
L1063[14:30:12] <Jewson> http://tinyurl.com/yxbk8369
L1064[14:30:21] <Jewson> One minute again
L1065[14:33:38] <Lizzy> "flash player will no longer be supported after december 2020" why the fuck has it been still supported up til now?
L1066[14:34:10] <FeherNeoH> I'm using some webpages those didn't migrate away from flash yet
L1067[14:34:27] <Soni> I'm still playing flash games in 2019
L1068[14:34:32] <FeherNeoH> or even worse, some software at work still uses ActiveX
L1069[14:34:43] <Lizzy> then it's high time it all died
L1070[14:34:49] <Soni> :<
L1071[14:34:52] <FeherNeoH> agree
L1072[14:35:07] <FeherNeoH> just port everything over from those already
L1073[14:35:07] <asie> @Bob better but still not great - all this says is that stable OC is slower, which is good news
L1074[14:35:22] <asie> i still need you to edit settings.conf to change the text rendering engine to "displaylist" (the old one)
L1075[14:35:26] <asie> for a more reasoned look at the optimizations
L1076[14:35:29] <asie> if you have the time
L1077[14:35:35] <Soni> I'll keep playing my flash games until the world implodes
L1078[14:35:54] <FeherNeoH> one can always do that on older browser versions
L1079[14:37:08] <Bob> asie tommorow probably, now im heading to sleep
L1080[14:37:21] <Bob> remind me in 16 hours
L1081[14:37:31] <Bob> ?
L1082[14:37:39] <FeherNeoH> that sleep sounds good
L1083[14:38:00] <FeherNeoH> I should stop being up until 1AM when I have to wake up at 5AM
L1084[14:41:32] <AmandaC> %remindthem @Bob 16h Test asie's OC jar with text rendering engine set to displaylist
L1085[14:41:32] <MichiBot> I'll remind @Bob about "Test asie's OC jar with text rendering engine set to displaylist" at 08/08/2019 06:41:32 AM
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L1087[14:43:23] <CompanionCube> %tonkout
L1088[14:43:23] <MichiBot> I'm sorry CompanionCube, you were not able to beat CompanionCube's record of 2 hours, 17 minutes and 7 seconds this time. 2 hours, 4 minutes and 56 seconds were wasted! Missed by 12 minutes and 10 seconds!
L1089[14:43:27] <CompanionCube> damn
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L1091[14:47:11] <Mimiru> <3 AmandaC lol
L1092[15:07:54] <AmandaC> %choose wait for the chicken to be done or ice cream lunch?
L1093[15:07:54] <MichiBot> AmandaC: My grandfather always told me that "ice cream lunch?" is the way to go!
L1094[15:24:31] <Jewson> So I guess this is weird problem
L1095[15:24:44] <Jewson> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/legolirore
L1096[15:24:56] <Jewson> When I execute this script it doesn't execute
L1097[15:27:40] <The_Stargazer> why do you have `require( "api" )` and not `require("api")`
L1098[15:27:53] <The_Stargazer> the indentation is horrible
L1099[15:28:08] <Jewson> My style of coding
L1100[15:28:14] <Jewson> I see no problem with it
L1101[15:28:22] <The_Stargazer> it's hard to read
L1102[15:28:24] <Jewson> Code is your signature
L1103[15:28:51] <Inari> Waitwait
L1104[15:28:56] <Jewson> What?
L1105[15:28:59] <Inari> Integral relates to Integer?
L1106[15:29:15] <Jewson> what?
L1107[15:30:41] <The_Stargazer> ???
L1108[15:32:55] <Jewson> so any ideas on the script
L1109[15:34:45] <Bob> what is not working specifically
L1110[15:34:57] <Bob> ~~and i hope you use charset wires~~
L1111[15:35:03] <Bob> ?
L1112[15:35:14] <Jewson> Ok so after renaming script from `rc.lua` (short for railcraft) to `test.lua` it started working
L1113[15:35:18] <Jewson> ;D
L1114[15:35:25] <Jewson> ? [Edited]
L1115[15:35:36] <Jewson> Any ideas why would this happen
L1116[15:37:43] <Bob> rc is reservee ?
L1117[15:37:46] <Bob> d*
L1118[15:38:02] <Bob> or it wasnt being executed for some reason
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L1120[15:50:48] <AmandaC> Rc is used by open os for running services
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L1122[15:51:54] <Bob> ~~OC uses tiny Railcraft inside computers~~
L1123[16:44:42] <payonel> `/bin/` probablys comes first in the $PATH, before `.`
L1124[16:44:51] <payonel> thusk `rc` would resolve to `/bin/rc`
L1125[16:44:54] <payonel> thus `rc` would resolve to `/bin/rc` [Edited]
L1126[16:45:11] <payonel> also, i dont like `.` in $PATH
L1127[16:45:20] <payonel> but, apparently it is common for people to assume it is
L1128[16:48:40] <Mimiru> ./rc.lua ftw/
L1129[16:48:44] <AdorableCatgirl> i keep forgetting that's a thing on windows
L1130[16:49:27] <Mimiru> s/w\//w/
L1131[16:49:28] <MichiBot> Mimiru: Invalid regex w\
L1132[16:49:31] <Mimiru> ye[
L1133[16:49:34] <Mimiru> I fucked that up
L1134[16:50:34] * Lizzy should probably go to bed
L1135[16:51:31] <Bob> ONI addiction ?
L1136[16:53:10] <Lizzy> partially
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L1138[16:53:21] <Lizzy> i'm not even playing the game properly, just fucking about
L1139[16:54:39] <Bob> Its cool, im trying to do a legit survival run
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L1141[17:10:03] <Forecaster> %tonkout
L1142[17:10:04] <MichiBot> Jeepers! Forecaster! You beat CompanionCube's previous record of 2 hours, 17 minutes and 7 seconds (By 9 minutes and 32 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L1143[17:10:05] <MichiBot> Forecaster has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.002 tonk points! plus 0.001 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 0.75895
L1144[17:12:48] <Mimiru> %seen gamax92
L1145[17:12:48] <MichiBot> gamax92 was last seen 96d 3h 49m 23s ago. Joining
L1146[17:12:52] <Mimiru> ._.
L1147[17:13:02] <Mimiru> Anyone heard from gamax... at all?
L1148[17:17:14] <The_Stargazer> %tonk
L1149[17:17:17] <MichiBot> Bejabbers! The_Stargazer! You beat Forecaster's previous record of <0 (By 7 minutes and 10 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L1150[17:17:18] <MichiBot> The_Stargazer's new record is 7 minutes and 10 seconds! The_Stargazer also gained 0.00012 tonk points for stealing the tonk.
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L1152[17:18:15] <ij> hello there i am having trouble setting up my drone's eeprom
L1153[17:18:48] <Izaya> %hello
L1154[17:18:49] <MichiBot> Izaya: Hello! Welcome to #oc! The one and only opencomputers channel! Please ask your questions directly (dont ask to ask) and provide error/code examples! (Use pastebin.com if theyre more than one line!) Dont mind the random conversation you might have walked into.
L1155[17:18:50] <Bob> Whats up with it ?
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L1157[17:19:21] <ij> i am unable to flash the eeprom cause of an xpcall error
L1158[17:19:41] <Bob> what ?
L1159[17:19:42] <ij> i copyed over the primitive code thingy
L1160[17:20:03] <ij> im trying to flash an eeprom to get a drone to work
L1161[17:20:16] <Bob> xpcall in no ways intercepts or changes, component.eeprom.write
L1162[17:20:24] <Forecaster> I only see gamax here
L1163[17:21:31] <ij> https://imgur.com/a/xyNH2an
L1164[17:21:39] <ij> thats the error im getting
L1165[17:22:33] <Bob> What are you using to write code to the eeprom
L1166[17:22:58] <Mimiru> https://giphy.com/gifs/2fs2I4ujlBf20
L1167[17:23:02] <ij> want my code?
L1168[17:23:10] <Mimiru> :P
L1169[17:23:29] <ij> heres the .lua file https://imgur.com/a/BG0ZPnW
L1170[17:23:59] <ij> pastebin might be better though: https://pastebin.com/UMjNYx0m
L1171[17:24:04] <Izaya> looks like software to run on a drone to me
L1172[17:24:18] <Izaya> try using flash eepromwrite.lua
L1173[17:24:26] <ij> ok
L1174[17:24:53] <Bob> Your problem is not the software but the way you try to flash it
L1175[17:24:53] <Bob> and again isp strikes in
L1176[17:25:19] <ij> thanks izaya it worked
L1177[17:25:32] <ij> im new to this crap lel
L1178[17:25:50] <Bob> Well Lua is easy and OC has a rich straight forward wiki
L1179[17:26:05] <Bob> so you can learn it quickly
L1180[17:26:51] <ij> thanks im a java and C guy ive made a minecraft mod before so i hope that i can learn lua quickly since i already know 2 languages
L1181[17:27:14] <Izaya> also a 1600x1200 display? what sorta display is that?
L1182[17:27:18] <Izaya> seems comf
L1183[17:27:22] <Bob> Lua is built on C and its goal is to be simple
L1184[17:27:41] <Bob> And it achieves the simple incredibly well
L1185[17:27:51] <Bob> i can link a tutorial
L1186[17:27:56] <Bob> to quickly hover and know the basics
L1187[17:27:58] <ij> thanks that would be great
L1188[17:28:02] <AmandaC> Izaya: I might be dense, but how the fuck do you install psychOS?
L1189[17:28:05] <Bob> then for the rest lurk trought OC wiki
L1190[17:28:17] <Izaya> AmandaC: okay so
L1191[17:28:29] <Izaya> from a loonix box, run build.sh then package.sh
L1192[17:28:42] <Izaya> that gives you a cpio you can unpack to a filesystem
L1193[17:28:45] <Bob> https://www.tutorialspoint.com/lua/ : ij here
L1194[17:28:47] <Izaya> or you can copy it straight to it
L1195[17:29:35] <payonel> AmandaC: ocvm copies the config to new instances, for simplicity i suppose. you would like it to only create a config if it needs to? i felt the absense of a config would make custom edits more tedious
L1196[17:29:54] <Izaya> (the psychos/ dir is the built copy)
L1197[17:30:01] <payonel> and the default config path should be allowed to be readonly, you're saying it tries to open the source dir with write perm?
L1198[17:30:02] <AmandaC> payonel: it saves it after every run doesn't it?
L1199[17:30:28] <AmandaC> payonel: the copy coolies the read-only bit put on the file
L1200[17:30:49] <AmandaC> I suspect, anyway
L1201[17:30:58] <payonel> @Bob you can use `cat > file` and then paste, use ^d to close the input
L1202[17:31:17] <Mimiru> %flip
L1203[17:31:18] <MichiBot> Mimiru: (╯°□°）╯┻━┻
L1204[17:31:26] <Mimiru> Well, I know what I'll be wasting this weekend doing.
L1205[17:31:36] <Bob> i just went trought wgetting it
L1206[17:31:39] <Mimiru> Another server migration, yaaaaaaaa
L1207[17:31:40] <Bob> but thanks
L1208[17:31:55] <payonel> AmandaC: it only saves a new config if it detects a change
L1209[17:32:07] <payonel> and it only writes a new one over the instance/config
L1210[17:32:56] <Corded> * <Forecaster> migrates Mimiru to another server
L1211[17:32:58] <payonel> Izaya: why do people work so hard to not say linux?
L1212[17:33:22] <Mimiru> I'll just *nix when I'm not being distro specific
L1213[17:33:23] <payonel> loonix, *nix, etc (yes i know *nix doesn't mean linux, but MOST of the time, it is, :dealwithit:)
L1214[17:33:35] <Izaya> payonel: loonix is just more fun
L1215[17:33:47] <Izaya> loonix, winderps, OS suX
L1216[17:33:49] <payonel> it makes me roll my eyes. and i get dizzy
L1217[17:33:52] <ij> i just put my eeprom in the drone now it works yay!
L1218[17:33:56] <Forecaster> I think it sounds stupid
L1219[17:34:12] <Mimiru> Usually when I *nix, I mean Unix like or derivative.
L1220[17:34:17] <Forecaster> Not much better than the meme speak some people use
L1221[17:34:23] <Mimiru> If I mean Linux specific I'll say so. :P
L1222[17:34:26] <Izaya> "It's hard to keep my eyes on a book when my eyes are constantly rolling"
L1223[17:34:30] <payonel> usually when i say linunx, i mean linux and linux derivatives
L1224[17:34:31] <payonel> :)
L1225[17:34:44] <payonel> s/linunx/linux/
L1226[17:34:44] <MichiBot> <payonel> usually when i say linux, i mean linux and linux derivatives
L1227[17:34:55] <Mimiru> nope, too late. it's now been renamed
L1228[17:34:58] <Mimiru> linunx
L1229[17:35:05] * payonel facepalms
L1230[17:35:09] <Mimiru> Li-nin-x
L1231[17:35:12] <Mimiru> damn it
L1232[17:35:18] <Forecaster> %s//w/linux/
L1233[17:35:19] <Mimiru> Li-nun-x
L1234[17:35:19] <Izaya> well, I suppose that ends the pronunciation dis-
L1235[17:35:19] <MichiBot> <Mimiru> wdamn it
L1236[17:35:21] <Izaya> what
L1237[17:35:23] <Izaya> oh okay
L1238[17:35:29] <Forecaster> Hmm
L1239[17:35:55] <Forecaster> Not sure what happened there
L1240[17:36:05] <ij> how do you refuel drones? sorry im dumb lel
L1241[17:36:13] <Mimiru> Fairy dust.
L1242[17:36:17] <Forecaster> You charge them
L1243[17:36:21] <Mimiru> Or that
L1244[17:36:24] <Forecaster> With a charger
L1245[17:36:25] <ij> using the charger block?
L1246[17:36:29] <Forecaster> It's
L1247[17:36:32] <payonel> ij, build a charger, place drone near it, give charger power and redstone signal
L1248[17:36:33] <Forecaster> Yes
L1249[17:36:44] <ij> thanks payonel
L1250[17:37:02] * payonel gives ij some linunx
L1251[17:37:06] <Bob> ~~OC drones need a rework tbh~~
L1252[17:37:08] <Mimiru> @Forecaster I'm assuming that Discord ate slashes, like it do sometimes.
L1253[17:37:14] <Bob> Invincibility is quite cool and uncool
L1254[17:37:24] <AmandaC> payonel: lemme dry off some and I'll make sure the issue is what I think it is
L1255[17:37:26] <simon816> unexpected https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NVIDIA-Open-GPU-Docs
L1256[17:38:01] <Forecaster> Oh, I may have put the slash the wrong way
L1257[17:38:16] <ij> hmm
L1258[17:38:20] <ij> so chargers on
L1259[17:38:24] <ij> drone is next to it
L1260[17:38:29] <ij> but it aint chargin
L1261[17:38:38] <payonel> ij screenshot
L1262[17:39:07] <Forecaster> %s/\w/linux/
L1263[17:39:08] <MichiBot> <payonel> linuxj screenshot
L1264[17:39:09] <Mimiru> Oh sorry I'm Charging my laser... it's using all the power
L1265[17:39:21] <Forecaster> Nope, oh well
L1266[17:39:25] <ij> https://imgur.com/a/D6cI2x8 payonel
L1267[17:39:27] <Mimiru> wow... gj
L1268[17:39:47] * Mimiru fires @"Forecaster"
L1269[17:40:02] <payonel> ij: is that charger powered with oc power?
L1270[17:40:17] <Forecaster> Put a lever on the block?
L1271[17:40:21] <Izaya> ^
L1272[17:40:35] <Mimiru> Put a block on the lever
L1273[17:40:38] <ij> payonel no im new how do u do that
L1274[17:40:45] <Izaya> gotta be facing the side with the square too
L1275[17:41:36] <ij> izaya i moved it to square side
L1276[17:41:41] <ij> but still doesnt charge
L1277[17:42:37] <Forecaster> Just put a lever on the side of the charger and flip it
L1278[17:42:42] <Izaya> got a redstone signal applied to the charger?
L1279[17:42:54] <ij> just found the fix
L1280[17:43:08] <ij> i needed the redstone signal and a power distributor block
L1281[17:43:59] <Forecaster> If it's connected to a creative computer case you don't need the distributor
L1282[17:45:00] <AmandaC> payonel: `-r--r--r-- 1 amandac users 1748 Jul 14 16:31 ./tmp/client.cfg`
L1283[17:45:20] <payonel> AmandaC: and that should be fine as long as the vm doesn't think the cfg needs updating
L1284[17:45:25] <ij> well its one block off
L1285[17:45:29] <ij> from the pc case
L1286[17:45:34] <payonel> AmandaC: could you make it rw as a test, then see what it updates to? then revert to ro?
L1287[17:45:34] <ij> but it works now so yay
L1288[17:45:44] <AmandaC> payonel: such as when it allocates the intial hard drive uuids? "P
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L1290[17:45:50] <payonel> correct
L1291[17:46:01] <payonel> AmandaC: does that not fit your use case?
L1292[17:46:03] <AmandaC> Yeah, my ./tmp had like 30 uuid-named folders in there
L1293[17:46:09] <payonel> haha
L1294[17:46:13] <payonel> bingo
L1295[17:46:46] <AmandaC> I tried a quick-and-dirty hack to make it just read the config, instead of copying it then reading the copy, but it didn't seem to be happy about that
L1296[17:47:21] <payonel> why not allow it to gen uuids and then make it ro?
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L1298[17:47:43] <AmandaC> I'd say just make it set +w on it
L1299[17:47:45] <ij> hmm
L1300[17:47:57] <ij> im now trying to run the client.lua file to control the drone
L1301[17:48:08] <ij> i typed drone.move(0,10,0)
L1302[17:48:09] <AmandaC> my nix expression generates a read-only tree of the stuff ocvm needs to run
L1303[17:48:10] <payonel> AmandaC: you mean, ocvm should set the file +w? not the user? (though of course, ocvm would need ownership)
L1304[17:48:17] <AmandaC> yeah
L1305[17:48:20] <Bob> Your drone and computer do have wireless networking ?
L1306[17:48:24] <AmandaC> ( as in yeah, ocvm should )
L1307[17:48:24] <Bob> ij
L1308[17:48:33] <AmandaC> at least after the initial copy
L1309[17:48:41] <payonel> AmandaC: hmm...maybe for the cfg
L1310[17:48:49] <ij> +Cored ya they do
L1311[17:49:01] <payonel> ij: corded it a bot, relays messages from discord
L1312[17:49:11] <payonel> "Bob" actually spoke to you
L1313[17:49:12] <ij> oh
L1314[17:49:14] <Bob> Yea im Bob
L1315[17:49:22] <ij> heres the error: https://imgur.com/a/nGsVb9k
L1316[17:49:24] <Izaya> lies, he's actually Fred
L1317[17:49:40] <AmandaC> But is she in love with a girl named fred
L1318[17:49:55] <Bob> Oh no
L1319[17:49:55] <Bob> how do you know
L1320[17:50:16] <ij> ive got an internet card in my PC and my drone
L1321[17:50:36] <AmandaC> Gods, it's been like... nearly 10 years, and that's like the only thing I remember from a play my then-friend's school put on
L1322[17:50:46] <Bob> ij drone is not defined
L1323[17:50:58] <Bob> it tells that its a nil (NULL) value
L1324[17:51:20] <ij> how do i define it?
L1325[17:51:34] <AmandaC> drone = component.proxy("dront")
L1326[17:51:35] <Bob> You'd need to go in the drone program and look
L1327[17:51:38] <AmandaC> s/dront/drone/
L1328[17:51:39] <MichiBot> <AmandaC> drone = component.proxy("drone")
L1329[17:51:45] <AmandaC> wit
L1330[17:51:47] <Bob> ^
L1331[17:51:49] <AmandaC> wait*
L1332[17:51:54] <Bob> Stop typoing Amanda
L1333[17:52:01] <AmandaC> drone = component.proxy(component.list("drone")())
L1334[17:52:06] * payonel makes a new component for oc, dront
L1335[17:52:09] <Izaya> dront indeed
L1336[17:52:13] <Bob> dront
L1337[17:52:19] <Bob> Someone PR in dronts
L1338[17:52:21] <Izaya> dron't
L1339[17:52:24] <payonel> HA
L1340[17:52:28] * payonel laughs
L1341[17:52:37] <Bob> drons't
L1342[17:52:47] <ij> heres the code:
L1343[17:52:48] <ij> https://pastebin.com/YPY9bGs9
L1344[17:52:57] <payonel> ij: is that drone code?
L1345[17:53:07] <Bob> Yea
L1346[17:53:09] <Bob> i asked it
L1347[17:53:10] <ij> thats being run on my PC
L1348[17:53:19] <payonel> ij: on the pc or the drone?
L1349[17:53:21] <Bob> we dont really need the pc code
L1350[17:53:22] <ij> apc
L1351[17:53:24] <payonel> if on pc, then what is drone?
L1352[17:53:31] <ij> hmm idk
L1353[17:53:32] <payonel> oh
L1354[17:53:35] <payonel> that's a string?
L1355[17:53:40] <payonel> sorry, i read it way too fast :)
L1356[17:54:00] <Izaya> whoa, a non-chinese off-brand bike on gumtree, british this time
L1357[17:54:03] <Izaya> >mechanical issues
L1358[17:54:05] <Izaya> WHAT A SURPRISE
L1359[17:54:17] <ij> so payonel how do i use it?
L1360[17:54:46] <payonel> ij: you want me to write your drone code?
L1361[17:55:02] <ij> how do i use the drone from the pc i mean
L1362[17:55:05] <payonel> sorry, i dont know lua
L1363[17:55:08] * payonel runs
L1364[17:55:16] <ij> i got the code from opencomputers
L1365[17:55:20] <Bob> We dont do that here
L1366[17:55:23] <payonel> open what?
L1367[17:55:25] <payonel> never heard of it
L1368[17:55:25] <Bob> OpenComputers is the mod
L1369[17:55:28] <ij> from this video
L1370[17:55:31] <ij> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5JTRKdup7s
L1371[17:55:33] <MichiBot> OpenComputers: Christmas Presents! | length: 12m 44s | Likes: 35 Dislikes: 1 Views: 5,143 | by Florian Nücke | Published On 23/12/2014
L1372[17:55:42] <payonel> florian? i wouldn't trust what he says
L1373[17:56:09] <ij> why not
L1374[17:56:14] <ij> the code is on github by sangar
L1375[17:56:29] <payonel> (fyi, florian == sangar)
L1376[17:56:56] <ij> oh
L1377[17:57:10] <ij> well how do you use the drones then?
L1378[17:57:38] <payonel> ij: also...fyi, look at the 2nd person in this list: https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/graphs/contributors
L1379[17:57:55] <Bob> this irc doesnt feature any of the OC devs
L1380[17:58:07] <payonel> o_O
L1381[17:58:08] <Mimiru> erm..
L1382[17:58:08] <Mimiru> wat
L1383[17:58:18] <Mimiru> Hey payonel I didn't realize you got fired.
L1384[17:58:25] * payonel cries softly
L1385[17:58:38] <Mimiru> Also @Sangar is on Discord, just not a lot
L1386[17:58:52] <ij> so what do i do?
L1387[17:59:01] <Mimiru> vexatos/asie, and a bunch of us have contributed to OC as well.
L1388[17:59:13] * AmandaC has code in there!
L1389[17:59:35] <AmandaC> messy, mostly copy-pasted-and-tweaked code, but code none the less
L1390[17:59:35] <Bob> I know, im going on github frequently shhh
L1391[17:59:42] <Bob> ij define drone variable from the pc
L1392[17:59:50] <ij> how do i do that
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L1394[18:00:07] <Bob> drone = component.proxy(component.list("drone")())
L1395[18:00:14] <Bob> As Amanda said earlier
L1396[18:00:22] <Mimiru> Well, Sangar, payonel, and Vex are #1, #2, and #4 on that list, and all.. are here.
L1397[18:00:34] <Vexatos> [random ping]
L1398[18:00:35] <ij> <Bob> its here: https://pastebin.com/YPY9bGs9
L1399[18:00:42] <ij> its already there
L1400[18:00:45] <ij> on my code
L1401[18:00:52] <Mimiru> Oh hai Vex. ;P
L1402[18:02:46] <ij> nvm it suddenly works now
L1403[18:02:47] <Bob> My internet is so bad i cant even open paste bin ffs isp
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L1405[18:04:11] <payonel> ij seemed very unimpressed
L1406[18:04:45] <AmandaC> %choose musical waves or talky-waves
L1407[18:04:45] <MichiBot> AmandaC: My grandfather always told me that "musical waves" is the way to go!
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L1409[18:09:03] <AmandaC> payonel: I fixed it so that it just reads from the original config, rather than copying the config
L1410[18:09:34] <AmandaC> payonel: now it stores the newly generated config properly
L1411[18:10:17] <payonel> properly? i'm interested in this change. pr?
L1412[18:12:22] <AmandaC> payonel: https://gitlab.darkdna.net/snippets/74
L1413[18:12:47] <AmandaC> payonel: I don't feel like doing the git hoop-jumping to open a seperate PR for it, hope that's acceptible ^
L1414[18:13:06] <payonel> AmandaC: from you, of course
L1415[18:13:15] * payonel offers AmandaC a fist bump
L1416[18:13:24] * AmandaC paw-bumps
L1417[18:13:38] * payonel scratches behind AmandaC ears
L1418[18:13:41] <Izaya> blergh I don't wanna go to work
L1419[18:13:55] <payonel> Izaya: sick day!
L1420[18:14:06] <Izaya> but then I only get like
L1421[18:14:13] <Izaya> $80 from work this week
L1422[18:15:00] <payonel> you dont have paid days off available? :(
L1423[18:15:10] <Izaya> part time
L1424[18:15:24] <Izaya> oh well at least I only have to work 10-2
L1425[18:15:47] <payonel> AmandaC: ok but
L1426[18:16:06] <payonel> AmandaC: does that mean a config is never made unless the machine has reason to make one?
L1427[18:16:14] <payonel> reason, like a uuid
L1428[18:16:25] <AmandaC> payonel: yes, but there will will be a reason for a new config
L1429[18:16:30] <payonel> so it'll attempt save on close, but not open
L1430[18:16:33] <AmandaC> the tmpfs, for example
L1431[18:16:54] <AmandaC> s/will will/will always/
L1432[18:16:56] <MichiBot> <AmandaC> payonel: yes, but there will always be a reason for a new config
L1433[18:17:10] <AmandaC> on a new machine, at least
L1434[18:17:55] <AmandaC> at least for the default-shipped config
L1435[18:18:18] <AmandaC> I guess you could contrive it to never need that
L1436[18:18:56] <AmandaC> s/that/to generate a new config/
L1437[18:18:56] <MichiBot> <AmandaC> I guess you could contrive it to never need to generate a new config
L1438[18:19:14] <AmandaC> %blame AmandaC's Tireds coming in way too early
L1439[18:19:15] * MichiBot blames AmandaC's Tireds coming in way too early for all of the bugs%&
L1440[18:19:24] <AmandaC> ... that works
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L1443[18:21:53] <AmandaC> %8ball icecream?
L1444[18:21:53] <MichiBot> AmandaC: My reply is no
L1445[18:24:14] <AmandaC> %tell Inari Hello, I'm Amanda, and I'm a caffine addict. ( Just realised why I've been feeling so tired these last few days -- we're almost out of tea so I've been rationing it )
L1446[18:24:14] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Inari will be notified of this message when next seen.
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L1448[18:25:44] <payonel> AmandaC: data card tier 1 is just md5sums?
L1449[18:25:47] <payonel> what does tier 2 give?
L1450[18:26:15] <AmandaC> payonel: t2 adds the beginnings of keygen, and t3 adds symmetric AES, IIRC
L1451[18:26:46] <AmandaC> payonel: worth noting the PR I have open's md5 is broken in some way I don't have enough caffine to figure out -- IT's always returning the same, fixed, hash
L1452[18:27:07] <AmandaC> ~w component:data
L1453[18:27:07] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:data
L1454[18:27:38] <Soni> has anyone implemented t3 TLS yet
L1455[18:28:13] <AmandaC> t1: base64, DEFLATE, a small handful of hashes, getLimit t2: AES en/decryption, RNG t3: pub/private key stuff
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L1457[18:30:43] <AmandaC> I think I'm going to put my laptop away for the night now, expect heavy mobile typos
L1458[18:31:07] <AmandaC> Lay down and veg out to some youtube videos
L1459[18:31:20] <payonel> AmandaC: i merged anyways, it's a fine starting point
L1460[18:32:22] <AmandaC> payonel: fair enough
L1461[18:34:20] <Soni> AmandaC: can we have sha1? it's more used than sha256 or md5 (see: git, bittorrent, etc)
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L1463[18:37:30] <payonel> Soni: these are changes to ocvm
L1464[18:37:41] <payonel> which is also open source, feel free to add it if it's something you'd like to use
L1465[18:37:47] <Soni> oh?
L1466[18:37:59] <Soni> I'm confused?
L1467[18:38:11] <Soni> I have no idea what's going on I guess
L1468[18:39:21] <payonel> Soni: ocvm: https://github.com/payonel/ocvm
L1469[18:41:33] <Soni> oh
L1470[18:42:27] <payonel> AmandaC: took your suggestion on the cfg, and *fixed* formatting
L1471[18:50:21] <Soni> payonel: does data card support AES 128 and 256 and autodetect based on key size? does input need to be block-sized? can one do all of the AES modes with it or only some (a specific one?) of them?
L1472[18:52:20] <Soni> ("AES encryption", as currently described, is quite useless)
L1473[18:55:06] <payonel> in oc? i dont know. ive never used the data card
L1474[18:55:10] <payonel> nor reviewed its code
L1475[18:57:39] <Bob> I'm thinking of a bank system
L1476[18:57:49] <Spooticus> ^^^
L1477[18:58:10] <Bob> Data card and stuff
L1478[18:58:57] <Mimiru> AFAIK it's sha256 on the data card
L1479[18:59:03] <Mimiru> and *only* 256
L1480[18:59:03] <Bob> i need to review the data card methods
L1481[18:59:26] <Bob> Sha is hashing
L1482[18:59:32] <Bob> So we got one way encryption
L1483[18:59:33] <AmandaC> payonel: the formatting can be made consistent using ctrl-shify-i in vscode, controlled by that .clang-format file
L1484[18:59:56] <AmandaC> Or is that what you meant by fixed it?
L1485[19:00:08] <Mimiru> was r e: the request for sha1 :P
L1486[19:01:55] <payonel> AmandaC: inneresting
L1487[19:02:00] <payonel> but then i'd have to fix the clang format file
L1488[19:02:03] <payonel> that's a lot of effort
L1489[19:02:11] <AmandaC> Hahaha
L1490[19:02:12] <payonel> and i'm don't have enough spoons for that
L1491[19:02:16] <payonel> i*
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L1493[19:03:11] <AmandaC> I spent a few of mine trying to get as close as I could with my PR, but it's not quite there
L1494[19:05:40] <AmandaC> For instance the {'s in the patch wouldn't be the same with the config I mande
L1495[19:06:06] <AmandaC> (the config patch)
L1496[19:47:53] <Soni> I guess OC's goal is to provide a game environment while my own goals generally tend to be integrate IRL and games together
L1497[19:49:45] <Soni> arguably, we should do that so much more often - the accessibility, usability, flexibility etc potentials are huge and unexplored
L1498[19:49:55] <Soni> but I seem to be the only person interested in it
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L1501[19:50:09] <ParadoxicalIRC> %tonk
L1502[19:50:10] <MichiBot> Waesucks! ParadoxicalIRC! You beat The_Stargazer's previous record of 7 minutes and 10 seconds (By 2 hours, 25 minutes and 45 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L1503[19:50:11] <MichiBot> ParadoxicalIRC's new record is 2 hours, 32 minutes and 55 seconds! ParadoxicalIRC also gained 0.00243 tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L1504[19:50:21] <ParadoxicalIRC> FOR ONCE I HAVE TONKED
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L1506[19:50:38] <Soni> also last time I talked about those things on IRC I got called drooling morons but the ppl here seem generally nice?
L1507[19:50:45] <Soni> then again so did the ppl there...
L1508[19:51:57] <Soni> s/morons/morons,/
L1509[19:51:58] <MichiBot> <Soni> also last time I talked about those things on IRC I got called drooling morons, but the ppl here seem generally nice?
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L1511[19:53:05] <ParadoxicalIRC> also now I have an irc client so no longer shall someone know when I will tonk
L1512[19:54:00] <Soni> *will never tonk*
L1513[19:54:15] <Izaya> %oclogs
L1514[19:54:15] <MichiBot> Izaya: https://oclogs.pc-logix.com/
L1515[19:55:02] <Izaya> >it's august now
L1516[19:55:13] <Izaya> >been working here for 7 months
L1517[19:55:16] <Izaya> > not fired yet
L1518[19:55:21] <Izaya> This is an unexpected situation
L1519[19:57:10] <Izaya> Soni: you talkin bout TLS specifically or?
L1520[19:57:17] <Izaya> Sorry context is hard
L1521[19:57:43] <Soni> heh, no, nobody has called me drooling morons for suggesting TLS, yet
L1522[19:58:37] <Soni> but about using a sandbox game as an IDE
L1523[20:00:16] <Izaya> It seems somewhat counterproductive
L1524[20:00:35] <Izaya> There were ideas along those lines floating around in the 80s though
L1525[20:00:45] <Soni> command. blocks.
L1526[20:00:59] <Izaya> Before GUIs took ovee
L1527[20:01:05] <AmandaC> Izaya: so, tldr is run package.sh? I'll give it a try tomorrow morning, I'm about to pass out already.
L1528[20:01:09] <Soni> (yeah, mojang never figured out how to do triggers with them. but w/e.)
L1529[20:01:31] <Izaya> AmandaC: build.sh; package.sh; cat psychos.cpio | paste
L1530[20:01:45] <Izaya> (or just use the cpio a normal way \o/)
L1531[20:01:49] * AmandaC nods
L1532[20:02:14] <AmandaC> It's also got build/psychOS/ as the output you said, right?
L1533[20:02:33] <AmandaC> So I could just symlink that into an occm instance
L1534[20:03:53] <Izaya> no, just psychos/
L1535[20:03:58] <Izaya> but yes
L1536[20:04:07] <Izaya> build/ is the kernel
L1537[20:04:12] <Izaya> Though I like that idea better
L1538[20:04:20] <Izaya> And it annoys me I never thought of it before
L1539[20:04:25] <AmandaC> Right
L1540[20:04:56] <AmandaC> Okay, time for drugs, night nerds
L1541[20:11:33] <Soni> I'd love to have an environment based on command blocks
L1542[20:11:45] <Soni> (or inspired by)
L1543[20:16:39] <Izaya> minecraft command blocks are not powerful
L1544[20:16:49] <Izaya> With some work though, they could be quite useful
L1545[20:18:52] <Soni> with some work they could become TCP-capable and all sorts of things
L1546[20:19:00] <Soni> as I said, based on or inspired by
L1547[20:19:06] <Soni> not just "command blocks as they currently are"
L1548[21:00:14] <The_Stargazer> would loading a file into RAM via the internet card on an embedded system be possible? (to allow use of large APIs but still be in the EEPROM limits)
L1549[21:00:42] <Izaya> Yup.
L1550[21:00:43] <The_Stargazer> or is RAM access like that not possible
L1551[21:00:58] <Izaya> well I mean you can load() a string
L1552[21:01:06] <Izaya> Or there's the tmpfs
L1553[21:01:12] <The_Stargazer> do eeproms have a tmpfs
L1554[21:01:41] <The_Stargazer> it's still being run on a computer, *but* the minimal config is a single T1 RAM stick, a T1 CPU, and the flashed EEPRM
L1555[21:01:43] <The_Stargazer> EEPROM*
L1556[21:02:02] <The_Stargazer> (because component interfacing is needed)
L1557[21:02:38] <The_Stargazer> it's for an OpenSecurity door control program, and while you can add door controllers into microcontrollers you *can't* add a magnetic card reader
L1558[21:03:22] <The_Stargazer> I say a single T1 stick because if you're loading from an EEPROM there's none of the libs that OpenOS provides (and as such, very little RAM is used)
L1559[21:03:41] <The_Stargazer> how much does a single tier 1 RAM stick provide? 64KB?
L1560[21:05:32] <Izaya> 192
L1561[21:05:47] <Izaya> And you get a 64k tmpfs no matter the type of computer
L1562[21:06:01] <The_Stargazer> oh, cool
L1563[21:06:06] <The_Stargazer> even with no hard drive?
L1564[21:06:41] <The_Stargazer> if that's the case I'll just download it to the tmpfs and then `require` it
L1565[21:07:03] <Izaya> No require on EEPROMs
L1566[21:07:09] <Izaya> That's part of OpenOS
L1567[21:07:15] <Izaya> ~w custom OS
L1568[21:07:15] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/tutorial:custom_oses
L1569[21:07:25] <The_Stargazer> Isn't `require` a core Lua function
L1570[21:07:45] <Izaya> normally, yes
L1571[21:07:49] <Izaya> In OC, no
L1572[21:08:04] <Paradoxical> In OC, `require` is a part of the package library
L1573[21:08:23] <The_Stargazer> oh
L1574[21:08:33] <The_Stargazer> how would I load APIs then?
L1575[21:08:38] <The_Stargazer> with io and load?
L1576[21:08:46] <Izaya> no io on EEPROMs
L1577[21:08:59] <Izaya> That's part of the OS
L1578[21:09:02] <The_Stargazer> hmmm
L1579[21:09:17] <The_Stargazer> how do I go about loading it then
L1580[21:09:33] <The_Stargazer> idea
L1581[21:09:36] <Izaya> Read the string from the filesystem, load() it
L1582[21:09:54] <The_Stargazer> get data from internet -> store it in string -> concat each read to the previous string -> load() that string
L1583[21:09:56] <The_Stargazer> would that work?
L1584[21:09:59] <Izaya> Or don't bother to write it to the filesystem in the first place
L1585[21:10:28] <The_Stargazer> i have just encountered a major problem
L1586[21:10:34] <The_Stargazer> the internet card is a tier2 card
L1587[21:10:43] <The_Stargazer> and i want this to be usable on barebones T1 computers
L1588[21:11:01] <Izaya> T1 network card, FRequest server, microtel
L1589[21:11:04] <Izaya> :^)
L1590[21:11:26] <The_Stargazer> I was actually considering FRequest or some sort of server interaction
L1591[21:11:34] <The_Stargazer> the server can handle all the `io` processing
L1592[21:12:11] <Izaya> Bonus points: load PsychOS from the FRequest server so you can log in remotely
L1593[21:15:36] <The_Stargazer> how does one install PsychOS though
L1594[21:16:49] <The_Stargazer> hmm, it looks like I'll need to build it
L1595[21:16:55] <The_Stargazer> but how would I go about doing that on a Windows system
L1596[21:17:16] <The_Stargazer> when I get a desktop i'm switching to linux
L1597[21:17:33] <The_Stargazer> i hate not being able to compile stuff
L1598[21:17:36] <Izaya> An excellent question!
L1599[21:17:55] <Izaya> You could do the steps in the script manually
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L1602[21:36:04] <Izaya> Honestly though
L1603[21:36:12] <Izaya> Never considered the problem :D
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L1610[23:00:36] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L1611[23:00:40] <MichiBot> Dogast! CompanionCube! You beat ParadoxicalIRC's previous record of 2 hours, 32 minutes and 55 seconds (By 37 minutes and 30 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L1612[23:00:41] <MichiBot> CompanionCube's new record is 3 hours, 10 minutes and 26 seconds! CompanionCube also gained 0.00189 (0.00063 x 3) tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L1613[23:02:26] <CompanionCube> %loot
L1614[23:02:27] <MichiBot> CompanionCube: You get a loot box! It contains an empty shot glass. (100%)
L1615[23:02:41] <CompanionCube> %sip
L1616[23:02:41] <MichiBot> You drink a runny ruby potion (New!). CompanionCube smells something burning.
L1617[23:03:01] <CompanionCube> ohno what is it
L1618[23:03:10] <Izaya> me
L1619[23:03:35] <CompanionCube> oh, it's just lp0
L1620[23:03:38] <CompanionCube> nevermind
L1621[23:08:45] <The_Stargazer> Izaya: still think torrents are fast? http://tinyurl.com/yyx4u679
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L1623[23:09:37] <XevronTV> Yeet
L1624[23:09:48] <The_Stargazer> problem with direct download is that speed decreases for each running download
L1625[23:10:46] <XevronTV> Hello
L1626[23:10:54] <XevronTV> This is crazy
L1627[23:11:08] <XevronTV> I can talk to you the people from Minecraft mod server OwO
L1628[23:11:18] <XevronTV> My friend discovered the IRC, please forgive me lmao
L1629[23:11:30] <XevronTV> Yes I am retard and I have many curiosity
L1630[23:11:38] <XevronTV> Again, please forgive him
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L1632[23:43:22] <Zef> Lol
L1633[23:47:13] *** Izaya is now known as lp0
L1634[23:49:57] <CompanionCube> wss it not taken?
L1635[23:50:04] <CompanionCube> %inv add lp0
L1636[23:50:04] * MichiBot summons 'lp0' and adds to her inventory. I could get some good swings in with this.
L1637[23:50:08] <lp0> surprisingly
L1638[23:50:33] <lp0> 14:50 -- NickServ (NickServ@services.esper.net): Nick lp0 is now registered to your account.
L1639[23:50:39] *** lp0 is now known as Izaya
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