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L2[00:24:10] <Izaya> I suspect I will be, how inconvenient.
L3[00:51:21] <FeherNeoH> will I be nuked if I continue writing my mod at work?
L4[00:51:45] <Izaya> yes
L5[00:52:25] <FeherNeoH> Good.
L6[00:53:14] <FeherNeoH> would prefer playing, but I'll do that after the boss finishes walking around the office
L7[01:02:25] <Kodos> o/ Soni
L8[01:03:09] <Soni> o/
L9[01:03:15] <Soni> I should be asleep
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L14[01:18:57] <CompanionCube> %tonkout
L15[01:18:57] <MichiBot> By my throth! CompanionCube! You beat Kodos's previous record of 3 hours, 42 minutes and 30 seconds (By 27 minutes and 45 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L16[01:18:58] <MichiBot> CompanionCube has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.004 tonk points! plus 0.003 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 0.86592
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L20[02:00:33] <Forecaster> %tonk
L21[02:00:34] <MichiBot> Waesucks! Forecaster! You beat CompanionCube's previous record of <0 (By 41 minutes and 36 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L22[02:00:35] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 41 minutes and 36 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.00069 tonk points for stealing the tonk.
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L25[02:51:37] <Lizzy> %tonk
L26[02:51:38] <MichiBot> Voldemort! Lizzy! You beat Forecaster's previous record of 41 minutes and 36 seconds (By 9 minutes and 27 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L27[02:51:39] <MichiBot> Lizzy's new record is 51 minutes and 4 seconds! Lizzy also gained 0.00016 tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L28[02:51:50] <Kleadron> %loot
L29[02:51:50] <MichiBot> Kleadron: You get a loot box! It contains a pointy cloud. (100%)
L30[02:52:15] * Lizzy plays upsies with her kittens
L31[03:00:09] <The_Stargazer> Huh
L32[03:00:18] <The_Stargazer> TIL Windows displays sizes in MiB but shows MB
L33[03:15:10] <FeherNeoH> so does Android
L34[03:15:44] <FeherNeoH> oh, wait
L35[03:15:50] <FeherNeoH> did they change it?
L36[03:16:02] <FeherNeoH> now it looks like actual MB/GB
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L39[04:09:36] <Kodos> %tonk
L40[04:09:37] <MichiBot> Dagnabbit! Kodos! You beat Lizzy's previous record of 51 minutes and 4 seconds (By 26 minutes and 54 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L41[04:09:38] <MichiBot> Kodos's new record is 1 hour, 17 minutes and 58 seconds! Kodos also gained 0.00045 tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L42[04:11:29] <FeherNeoH> what's this tonk thing?
L43[04:12:52] <Forecaster> it's a game about timing, opportunity and patience
L44[04:13:18] <FeherNeoH> wait longer than the previous person did?
L45[04:13:36] <FeherNeoH> (but be faster than others)
L46[04:13:40] <FeherNeoH> did I get it right?
L47[04:14:08] <Forecaster> that's the opportunity part
L48[04:15:09] <Forecaster> basically, you tonk before the record has been exceeded the timer resets, tonk after you set a new record, and get points depending on the difference (time added to record)
L49[04:15:32] <FeherNeoH> can you tonk after yourself?
L50[04:15:33] <Forecaster> if you were the last person to tonk, and you tonk again you get no points though
L51[04:15:38] <FeherNeoH> oh
L52[04:15:44] <FeherNeoH> great
L53[04:15:46] <Forecaster> but you will claim the new record
L54[04:16:02] <FeherNeoH> so you can block others from getting points
L55[04:16:28] <Forecaster> you can also tonkout, which work with the same rules, but it also cashes in the new record, converting it to points
L56[04:17:08] <Forecaster> if you tonkout and were also the last person to tonk you get the entire record time as points, plus a multiplier for each whole hour
L57[04:17:21] <Forecaster> if you were not the last person to tonk and you tonkout, you get 50% of that
L58[04:17:50] <Forecaster> if you were not the last person to tonk and you tonkout, you get 50% of the bonus points [Edited]
L59[04:18:40] <Forecaster> so consistently claiming a new record will keep others from getting points, and will give you the most points when you tonk out
L60[04:19:15] <Forecaster> hm, maybe I should make it track consecutive tonks, and use that as the multiplier instead
L61[04:19:23] <Forecaster> or wait, no
L62[04:19:37] <Forecaster> then it'll suddenly become better to perform many short tonks
L63[04:23:09] <FeherNeoH> Yeah, that sounds abusable
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L65[04:35:07] <asie> OC reimplements it for a very important reason
L66[04:35:11] <asie> oh, i was scrolled up
L67[04:35:33] <asie> but yeah re string.find: it's reimplemented so that it can be properly timeouted; Lua's timeout checks only run once per bytecode op
L68[04:35:41] <asie> so a native method can lock
L69[04:45:43] <Forecaster> %sip
L70[04:45:43] <MichiBot> You drink a fragrant caterium potion (New!). Forecaster looks confused as nothing happens.
L71[04:45:51] <Forecaster> dang
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L73[05:39:11] <Forecaster> %tonk
L74[05:39:12] <MichiBot> Fopdoodle! Forecaster! You beat Kodos's previous record of 1 hour, 17 minutes and 58 seconds (By 11 minutes and 37 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L75[05:39:13] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 1 hour, 29 minutes and 35 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.00038 (0.00019 x 2) tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L76[05:39:27] <Bob> http://tinyurl.com/y363sk2r
L77[05:39:56] <Bob> i decided to work a tiny bit
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L81[07:09:10] <asie> %tonkout
L82[07:09:11] <MichiBot> By my throth! asie! You beat Forecaster's previous record of 1 hour, 29 minutes and 35 seconds (By 23 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L83[07:09:12] <MichiBot> asie has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.001 tonk points! Current score: 0.03067
L84[07:09:22] <The_Stargazer> %tonk
L85[07:09:23] <MichiBot> Dogast! The_Stargazer! You beat asie's previous record of <0 (By 11 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L86[07:09:24] <MichiBot> The_Stargazer's new record is 11 seconds!
L87[07:09:52] <asie> %tonk
L88[07:09:55] <asie> ah, too early
L89[07:10:32] <asie> %tonk
L90[07:10:33] <MichiBot> By my throth! asie! You beat The_Stargazer's previous record of 11 seconds (By 58 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L91[07:10:34] <MichiBot> asie's new record is 1 minute and 10 seconds! asie also gained 0.00002 tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L92[07:10:42] <asie> ah yes 0 . 0 0 0 0 2 points
L93[07:10:44] <asie> incredible
L94[07:12:08] <FeherNeoH> %tonk
L95[07:12:08] <MichiBot> Dagnabbit! FeherNeoH! You beat asie's previous record of 1 minute and 10 seconds (By 25 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L96[07:12:09] <MichiBot> FeherNeoH's new record is 1 minute and 35 seconds! FeherNeoH also gained 0.00001 tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L97[07:12:32] <The_Stargazer> argh, stupid trackpad rclicked instead of lclick
L98[07:13:35] <Forecaster> I'm amazed less than a minute produces any points
L99[07:13:49] <FeherNeoH> who wrote it?
L100[07:13:51] <asie> %tonk
L101[07:13:51] <MichiBot> Goshhawk! asie! You beat FeherNeoH's previous record of 1 minute and 35 seconds (By 7 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L102[07:13:52] <MichiBot> asie's new record is 1 minute and 42 seconds!
L103[07:14:30] <The_Stargazer> %tonkpoints
L104[07:14:31] <MichiBot> The_Stargazer: You currently have 0.01041 points!
L105[07:14:41] <FeherNeoH> %tonkpoints
L106[07:14:43] <MichiBot> FeherNeoH: You currently have 0.00001 points!
L107[07:14:58] <Forecaster> I wrote it
L108[07:15:03] <The_Stargazer> %tonk
L109[07:15:04] <MichiBot> I'm sorry The_Stargazer, you were not able to beat asie's record of 1 minute and 42 seconds this time. 1 minute and 12 seconds were wasted! Missed by 30 seconds!
L110[07:15:25] <FeherNeoH> @Forecaster guessed so, that's why I asked it
L111[07:15:47] <The_Stargazer> the heck kinda exit code is `-1073741819`
L112[07:16:13] <The_Stargazer> iirc exit codes aren't even supposed to be negative
L113[07:16:18] <Forecaster> it's a very positive one that's for sure
L114[07:16:22] <The_Stargazer> i think they go from 0 - 255
L115[07:16:25] <Forecaster> it's not a very positive one that's for sure [Edited]
L116[07:16:37] <Forecaster> exit codes can be whatever the program wants
L117[07:16:49] <Forecaster> who needs standards anyway
L118[07:16:52] <The_Stargazer> but why would Minecraft crash with exit code `-1073741819`?
L119[07:17:01] <FeherNeoH> C0000005
L120[07:17:09] <FeherNeoH> sounds like a normal error code
L121[07:17:11] <The_Stargazer> is that hex for `-1073741819`?
L122[07:17:15] <FeherNeoH> yeap
L123[07:18:14] <FeherNeoH> if you are on windows, it's access violation
L124[07:18:22] <The_Stargazer> ohhh
L125[07:18:30] <FeherNeoH> and as you have an exit code of over 255, you are probably on Windows
L126[07:18:36] <The_Stargazer> yes, windows 10
L127[07:18:40] <The_Stargazer> so it's access violation then?
L128[07:18:54] <The_Stargazer> the old launcher used to display that :I
L129[07:19:00] <FeherNeoH> according to google it is
L130[07:19:10] <FeherNeoH> the new launcher is....
L131[07:19:11] <FeherNeoH> strange
L132[07:19:22] <The_Stargazer> there's no `hs_err_pid[blah]` tho
L133[07:19:52] <FeherNeoH> it was the game that crashed, right?
L134[07:19:52] <The_Stargazer> ah, according to google it's a.. dll issue?
L135[07:19:54] <The_Stargazer> yea
L136[07:19:57] <The_Stargazer> game runs java
L137[07:20:02] <The_Stargazer> so if java encounters access violation
L138[07:20:09] <The_Stargazer> java should generate an `hs_err_pid` file
L139[07:20:13] <FeherNeoH> there should be a crashlogs folder in %appdata%/.minecraft
L140[07:20:52] <The_Stargazer> 186 crashlogs
L141[07:21:05] <FeherNeoH> asdfghjkl
L142[07:21:18] <The_Stargazer> nothing from today
L143[07:21:37] <FeherNeoH> try program files\minecraft launcher then
L144[07:21:52] <The_Stargazer> Message contained 4 or more newlines and was pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/ayugipanav
L145[07:22:13] <FeherNeoH> %tonk
L146[07:22:13] <MichiBot> Waesucks! FeherNeoH! You beat asie's previous record of 1 minute and 42 seconds (By 5 minutes and 26 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L147[07:22:14] <MichiBot> FeherNeoH's new record is 7 minutes and 9 seconds! FeherNeoH also gained 0.00009 tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L148[07:22:20] <asie> W A E S U C K S
L149[07:22:36] <FeherNeoH> ?
L150[07:23:47] <Temia> S A R D
L151[07:24:44] <Forecaster> %sip
L152[07:24:44] <MichiBot> You drink a resonating coral potion (New!). Forecaster thinks the empty bottle is a snake for 29 minutes.
L153[07:24:53] <Forecaster> not agaaaain
L154[07:25:11] <Temia> Coral snake!
L155[07:25:26] <Temia> %quaff mutable coral potion
L156[07:25:27] <MichiBot> Temia turns into a fairy boy until the next time they hug someone.
L157[07:25:32] <Temia> ' -'
L158[07:25:41] * Temia hugs Amanda
L159[07:25:52] * AmandaC cuddles Temia
L160[07:26:41] <Forecaster> %sip mutable dilithium potion
L161[07:26:41] <MichiBot> Forecaster turns into a unicorn girl until they leave.
L162[07:26:52] <Forecaster> alright
L163[07:27:08] <FeherNeoH> time to leave?
L164[07:27:29] <Forecaster> eh, I'm going home from work in a few hours
L165[07:27:48] <FeherNeoH> max 90 mins for me until end of work
L166[07:27:52] <FeherNeoH> minimum 5
L167[07:28:38] <Forecaster> that's a fairly large span
L168[07:29:36] <The_Stargazer> %tonk
L169[07:29:36] <MichiBot> Gadsbudlikins! The_Stargazer! You beat FeherNeoH's previous record of 7 minutes and 9 seconds (By 14 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L170[07:29:37] <MichiBot> The_Stargazer's new record is 7 minutes and 23 seconds!
L171[07:29:58] <FeherNeoH> I'm always here at 8, and leave randomly between 14:30 and 16:00
L172[07:30:50] <The_Stargazer> there are twelve hours in the clock
L173[07:30:56] <The_Stargazer> i do not understand this 24-hour nonsense
L174[07:31:30] <FeherNeoH> good for you
L175[07:31:41] <FeherNeoH> what I cannot understand are the non-ISO dates
L176[07:32:07] <The_Stargazer> the what dates
L177[07:33:40] <FeherNeoH> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601
L178[07:33:48] <FeherNeoH> the actual standard date format
L179[07:33:56] <asie> %tonk
L180[07:33:56] <MichiBot> I'm sorry asie, you were not able to beat The_Stargazer's record of 7 minutes and 23 seconds this time. 4 minutes and 20 seconds were wasted! Missed by 3 minutes and 3 seconds!
L181[07:34:01] <asie> ah, i missed that one
L182[07:34:58] <FeherNeoH> (also it uses 24h time)
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L184[07:39:52] <FeherNeoH> %tonk
L185[07:39:52] <MichiBot> I'm sorry FeherNeoH, you were not able to beat The_Stargazer's record of 7 minutes and 23 seconds this time. 5 minutes and 55 seconds were wasted! Missed by 1 minute and 27 seconds!
L186[07:40:13] <FeherNeoH> oh, why didn't it reset?
L187[07:40:30] <Forecaster> maybe I should put a 15 minute timeout on those commands
L188[07:40:56] <FeherNeoH> so, why didn't it reset?
L189[07:42:53] <Forecaster> %actualshrug
L190[07:42:53] <MichiBot> Forecaster: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L191[07:44:06] <The_Stargazer> %tonk
L192[07:44:06] <MichiBot> You still hold the record The_Stargazer, for now... 7 minutes and 23 seconds
L193[07:48:44] <Forecaster> %restart
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L195[07:49:10] <Forecaster> hey look, now the timout for tonk and tonkout is 15 minutes instead of 1
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L197[07:49:15] zsh sets mode: +v on MichiBot
L198[07:51:42] <FeherNeoH> %tonk
L199[07:51:43] <MichiBot> Fopdoodle! FeherNeoH! You beat The_Stargazer's previous record of 7 minutes and 23 seconds (By 4 minutes and 26 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L200[07:51:44] <MichiBot> FeherNeoH's new record is 11 minutes and 50 seconds! FeherNeoH also gained 0.00007 tonk points for stealing the tonk.
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L203[07:56:23] <FeherNeoH> that was fast
L204[07:57:45] <Forecaster> yep
L205[07:57:49] <Forecaster> people do that
L206[07:57:53] <ben_mkiv> %blame forecaster
L207[07:57:54] * MichiBot blames forecaster for adding Forecaster's function to the inventory!
L208[07:57:59] <asie> %sip
L209[07:58:00] <MichiBot> You drink a basic bavarium potion (New!). asie's hair glows weather until they see a unicorn.
L210[07:59:36] <Forecaster> is asies head just storms now
L211[08:01:17] <FeherNeoH> @ben_mkiv add more bugs instead so I have something to report
L212[08:01:52] <Maxzilla> Sorry, I just decided I'd prefer to join via Discord.
L213[08:02:01] <Maxzilla> Heya, everyone! ?
L214[08:02:22] <Forecaster> hi
L215[08:02:52] <Maxzilla> How's everyone doing?
L216[08:02:55] <asie> %tonk
L217[08:03:16] <FeherNeoH> still on cd?
L218[08:03:39] <Bob> :GWjiangPepeThumb:
L219[08:03:41] <FeherNeoH> that sounds like...
L220[08:03:58] <FeherNeoH> a bug?
L221[08:04:07] <FeherNeoH> 17 > 15
L222[08:04:36] <FeherNeoH> or even more
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L224[08:05:07] <FeherNeoH> yeah, seems to be 29 minutes
L225[08:05:57] <Forecaster> it's 900 seconds
L226[08:06:16] <FeherNeoH> are you sure it's seconds?
L227[08:06:39] <Forecaster> yes, because the old value was 60
L228[08:07:25] <FeherNeoH> so then why did nothing happen when asie used the command at :02 after :33?
L229[08:07:29] <asie> %tonk
L230[08:07:30] <MichiBot> Gadsbudlikins! asie! You beat FeherNeoH's previous record of 11 minutes and 50 seconds (By 3 minutes and 57 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L231[08:07:31] <MichiBot> asie's new record is 15 minutes and 47 seconds! asie also gained 0.00007 tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L232[08:07:41] <asie> because i use the bot too much
L233[08:08:18] <FeherNeoH> or that was for time between tonks, not between tonks by the same person
L234[08:08:31] <Maxzilla> What's this tonk thing?
L235[08:09:36] <Forecaster> it's an idle game of sorts
L236[08:09:41] <Forecaster> but also not
L237[08:10:04] <FeherNeoH> it's an invitation for bored devs to write a bot thaT PLAYS IT
L238[08:10:18] <FeherNeoH> sry for caps
L239[08:10:25] <FeherNeoH> hit the button by accident
L240[08:10:32] <Forecaster> that wont really work, because other people tonk and ruin timings :P
L241[08:11:03] <FeherNeoH> That only applies for bots written that badly
L242[08:11:16] <asie> if someone writes a bot i bet many professional tonkers will strike
L243[08:11:17] <Forecaster> also if I figure out that someone is doing it, I'll tell MichiBot to ignore them
L244[08:11:19] <Maxzilla> Y'gotta "tonk" at regular intervals, I'm guessing?
L245[08:11:34] <Forecaster> it's very irregular actually
L246[08:11:36] <The_Stargazer> out-tonk others
L247[08:11:43] <Forecaster> I explained the rules earlier today
L248[08:11:46] <Forecaster> just search for that
L249[08:11:54] <The_Stargazer> we need a tonk board game or smthn
L250[08:12:04] <Forecaster> that sounds terrible
L251[08:12:06] <The_Stargazer> yes
L252[08:12:08] <The_Stargazer> exactly
L253[08:12:18] <Forecaster> might still be better than monopoly though
L254[08:12:29] <The_Stargazer> less arguments caused :P
L255[08:12:35] <FeherNeoH> I should set thonk out at home on everyone's phones
L256[08:12:42] <FeherNeoH> *tonk
L257[08:12:46] <The_Stargazer> why
L258[08:12:52] <FeherNeoH> *up
L259[08:13:01] <The_Stargazer> ???
L260[08:13:04] <The_Stargazer> i'm confused
L261[08:13:16] <FeherNeoH> I can't write
L262[08:13:26] <The_Stargazer> still I don't know what you're saying
L263[08:13:27] <The_Stargazer> also
L264[08:13:31] <The_Stargazer> T H O N K O U T
L265[08:13:50] <FeherNeoH> *set tonk up
L266[08:13:54] <FeherNeoH> that's what I meant
L267[08:14:05] <FeherNeoH> make it a smartphone LAN game
L268[08:14:34] <The_Stargazer> ah
L269[08:14:49] <FeherNeoH> just update the name and time when the record changes
L270[08:14:57] <FeherNeoH> but don't show WHEN it changed
L271[08:22:42] <The_Stargazer> %tonk
L272[08:22:44] <MichiBot> I'm sorry The_Stargazer, you were not able to beat asie's record of 15 minutes and 47 seconds this time. 15 minutes and 13 seconds were wasted! Missed by 34 seconds!
L273[08:22:49] <asie> h a
L274[08:22:56] <FeherNeoH> Seriously?
L275[08:22:56] <asie> can't outtonk the thonk
L276[08:23:07] <FeherNeoH> at least set a timer up
L277[08:23:16] <The_Stargazer> ruins the fun
L278[08:23:20] <asie> ^
L279[08:23:28] <Mimiru> I missed by 0 seconds once.
L280[08:23:31] <asie> tonk is not about winning
L281[08:23:33] <asie> it's about fun!
L282[08:23:39] <The_Stargazer> you tonk at random times, setting a timer defeats the whole point of the game
L283[08:23:42] <FeherNeoH> Yeah, I know
L284[08:23:53] <ben_mkiv> i could add a bug mob which drops microchips
L285[08:23:59] <FeherNeoH> but missing it is less fun than others stealing it
L286[08:24:31] <FeherNeoH> ben_mkiv: I'll throw you an idea you'll hate
L287[08:24:48] <Maxzilla> That honestly sounds fun(ny), Ben. ?
L288[08:26:15] <The_Stargazer> argh
L289[08:26:15] <The_Stargazer> what tf does `no coercible public method mean`
L290[08:26:16] <Maxzilla> Does anyone else here use OCEmu instead of booting up MC? ?
L291[08:26:25] <The_Stargazer> I do
L292[08:26:33] <The_Stargazer> Because low RAM
L293[08:26:39] * AmandaC uses ocvm
L294[08:26:47] * asie used to use LuPI2 but now just boots MC
L295[08:26:50] <asie> I also use Kallisti
L296[08:26:52] <FeherNeoH> I don't, did not check if I can make it support addon architectures
L297[08:26:53] <The_Stargazer> *ocvm doesn't work for me*
L298[08:26:53] <asie> sometimes
L299[08:27:04] <asie> https://github.com/MovingBlocks/Kallisti I developed this one
L300[08:28:22] <Maxzilla> That's cool, I haven't heard of either of those. ?
L301[08:30:03] <Forecaster> this should suffice I think? http://tinyurl.com/y6klhxbe
L302[08:30:46] <FeherNeoH> so why didn't it reset the timer?
L303[08:31:16] <Maxzilla> Where did the word "tonk" even come from?
L304[08:31:56] <Forecaster> it's an onomatopoeia
L305[08:32:08] <Maxzilla> Ah, like hittin' an anvil with a hammer?
L306[08:32:13] <Forecaster> sure
L307[08:32:43] <Forecaster> @FeherNeoH the command timeout is separate from whatever the command does
L308[08:33:02] <FeherNeoH> no, I mean
L309[08:33:11] <FeherNeoH> 1: it didn't reset on early tonk
L310[08:33:32] <Forecaster> I already shrugged about that
L311[08:33:33] <FeherNeoH> 2: in asie's case the timeout should have already passed
L312[08:33:56] <Forecaster> I dunno, might've been a hickup
L313[08:34:04] <Forecaster> if there's a presistant issue I'll look into it
L314[08:34:13] <Forecaster> if there's a persistant issue I'll look into it [Edited]
L315[08:34:57] <Maxzilla> Is it me or can I not make POST requests with `internet.request` in other content types?
L316[08:35:52] <Forecaster> post requests are made when a table of data is sent with the request
L317[08:35:59] <Forecaster> if there is no data it's a get request
L318[08:37:48] <Maxzilla> This is what I'm doing; `internet.request("http://localhost:3000", "{json: \"stuff\"}", { ["Content-Type"] = "application/json" })`
L319[08:38:00] <Maxzilla> It seems to always send with "url-encoded" content type.
L320[08:38:04] <The_Stargazer> localhost is blocked by default
L321[08:38:11] <Maxzilla> Is it?
L322[08:38:19] <The_Stargazer> for security reasons
L323[08:38:32] <Maxzilla> My server's getting the request...
L324[08:38:37] <The_Stargazer> it is?
L325[08:38:41] <The_Stargazer> is the server on localhost?
L326[08:38:48] <Maxzilla> Yeah, and it's complaining about the content type.
L327[08:38:50] <Maxzilla> It is.
L328[08:38:52] <The_Stargazer> Huh
L329[08:39:06] <FeherNeoH> so then I hope you have whitelisted it
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L331[08:39:14] <FeherNeoH> and it's not a bug instead
L332[08:39:15] <Maxzilla> This is on OCEmu, I don't know if that changes it.
L333[08:39:22] <FeherNeoH> oh
L334[08:39:23] <The_Stargazer> oh
L335[08:39:25] <The_Stargazer> ocemu doesn't like internet cards
L336[08:39:28] <AmandaC> OCEmu doesn't support the headers yet
L337[08:39:29] <Maxzilla> Oh?
L338[08:39:36] <Maxzilla> Ahhh, I see!
L339[08:39:40] <The_Stargazer> my version of ocemu crashes upon doing anything with the card
L340[08:40:24] <Maxzilla> I guess I'll have to try this out in MC, then.
L341[08:41:25] <The_Stargazer> oh, wait
L342[08:41:34] <The_Stargazer> in oc localhost is blacklisted
L343[08:41:41] <Bob> ^
L344[08:41:42] <The_Stargazer> you'll have to un-blacklist it
L345[08:41:53] <Maxzilla> How does one do that?
L346[08:41:56] <The_Stargazer> is this singleplayer or multiplayer?
L347[08:41:57] <asie> edit the config
L348[08:41:59] <Bob> go to the OC config
L349[08:42:11] <Bob> and remove 127.0.0.1 from config entry
L350[08:42:34] <The_Stargazer> if it's multiplayer
L351[08:42:34] <The_Stargazer> DON'T HOST YOUR SERVER ON LOCALHOST
L352[08:42:34] <The_Stargazer> then for god's sake
L353[08:42:43] <Maxzilla> I'm just tinkering with stuff in singleplayer.
L354[08:42:46] <The_Stargazer> ok good
L355[08:42:48] <Maxzilla> Yeh yeh, don't worry. ?
L356[08:42:56] <The_Stargazer> why are you using localhost anyway
L357[08:43:11] <Maxzilla> I am planning on making something for a multiplayer server but I'll make sure for the proper stuff.
L358[08:43:16] <Maxzilla> Just to try some stuff out, really.
L359[08:43:20] <The_Stargazer> ok good
L360[08:43:30] <The_Stargazer> you should really be doing it on the server you'll use when it's for multiplayer
L361[08:43:39] <Maxzilla> Indeed. ?
L362[08:43:55] <The_Stargazer> so I suggest: stop using localhost, switch to your actual server
L363[08:43:55] <The_Stargazer> I'm assuming you have one?
L364[08:44:08] <Maxzilla> Nah, not mine.
L365[08:44:10] <The_Stargazer> if you CAN'T host it anyway except your machine then use a vm
L366[08:44:12] <Maxzilla> Couple o' friends.
L367[08:44:24] <The_Stargazer> no, your json-thingy server
L368[08:44:36] <Forecaster> %restart
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L370[08:44:39] <Maxzilla> Oh. Right now, locally.
L371[08:44:52] <The_Stargazer> But you have a server to host it on?
L372[08:44:55] <The_Stargazer> if not, use a vm
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L375[08:45:08] <Forecaster> %tonk
L376[08:45:17] <The_Stargazer> %tonk
L377[08:45:24] <FeherNeoH> %tonk
L378[08:45:43] <asie> %tonk
L379[08:45:47] <MichiBot> Aw jeez! Forecaster! You beat asie's previous record of 15 minutes and 47 seconds (By 7 minutes and 15 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L380[08:45:49] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 23 minutes and 3 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.00012 tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L381[08:46:14] <Forecaster> fun fact, restarting resets all the command timeouts :P
L382[08:46:15] <Maxzilla> I'm gonna go commute home, BBL!
L383[08:47:46] <Forecaster> and the "rules" I wrote are now on the leaderboard page
L384[08:47:58] <Forecaster> so now I wont have to explain it to new people anymore hopefully
L385[08:48:03] <Forecaster> %tonkleaders
L386[08:48:03] <MichiBot> Forecaster: https://michibot.pc-logix.com/tonk
L387[08:48:24] <Forecaster> might uh... move it below the title though
L388[08:48:56] <The_Stargazer> this main just said `LUA`
L389[08:48:56] <MichiBot> It's Lua, not LUA. Name not an acronym.
L390[08:48:56] <The_Stargazer> i have no words
L391[08:49:03] <The_Stargazer> exactly
L392[08:49:08] <The_Stargazer> man*
L393[08:51:43] <Forecaster> I wonder if I can make MichiBot message Discord users through Corded about timeouts, since it can't send irc notices to them like it normally does
L394[08:57:03] <Forecaster> %restart
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L398[08:57:36] <Forecaster> that's better
L399[09:33:16] <The_Stargazer> %tonk
L400[09:33:18] <MichiBot> Heckgosh! The_Stargazer! You beat Forecaster's previous record of 23 minutes and 3 seconds (By 24 minutes and 26 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L401[09:33:19] <MichiBot> The_Stargazer's new record is 47 minutes and 30 seconds! The_Stargazer also gained 0.00041 tonk points for stealing the tonk.
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L404[10:27:15] <Forecaster> %tonk
L405[10:27:17] <MichiBot> Aw jeez! Forecaster! You beat The_Stargazer's previous record of 47 minutes and 30 seconds (By 6 minutes and 29 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L406[10:27:18] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 53 minutes and 59 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.00011 tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L407[10:30:34] <Maxzilla> @The_Stargazer, I was just running a NodeJS server on my PC to quickly try out the OC's internet library.
L408[10:37:09] <Forecaster> https://webhook.site
L409[10:37:30] <Forecaster> @Maxzilla
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L412[10:49:59] <Maxzilla> Webhooks are cool, I should fiddle around with those too sometime. ?
L413[10:50:26] <Forecaster> it's not just for webhooks
L414[10:50:34] <Forecaster> the site lets you test http requests too
L415[10:53:04] <Maxzilla> That's pretty neat!
L416[10:53:33] <AdorableCatgirl> time to do OC shit ig
L417[10:53:57] <AdorableCatgirl> also HA NODE.JS
L418[10:53:58] <Paradoxical> I honestly prefer https://reqeuestbin.com but they're pretty much exactly same lol
L419[10:54:00] <AdorableCatgirl> meme language
L420[10:54:19] <AdorableCatgirl> i just have an HTTP server installed on my machine
L421[10:54:34] <Paradoxical> https://requestbin.com/ * spelling error lol
L422[10:54:49] <AdorableCatgirl> i don't remember if it was apache2 or nginx
L423[10:54:50] <FeherNeoH> I have at least 6 machines with apache2/nginx in my room
L424[10:54:57] <AdorableCatgirl> oh
L425[10:55:00] <AdorableCatgirl> i'm not at home rn
L426[10:55:04] <AdorableCatgirl> lmao
L427[10:55:20] <Paradoxical> httpd/apache > nginx for general webhost
L428[10:55:20] <Paradoxical> nginx > httpd/apache for rev proxy
L429[10:55:35] <Paradoxical> that's my opinion of the two lol
L430[10:55:39] <AdorableCatgirl> i have a frankenstein's monster of a setup for my server stuff
L431[10:55:55] <FeherNeoH> the nginx reverse proxi rig is down until I fix its overheating issues
L432[10:56:01] <Paradoxical> oof
L433[10:56:05] <AdorableCatgirl> huh
L434[10:56:12] <AdorableCatgirl> did you try cleaning the fan out and repasting lmao
L435[10:56:18] <FeherNeoH> what fan?
L436[10:56:23] <AdorableCatgirl> that's what made my Q6600
L437[10:56:25] <AdorableCatgirl> what
L438[10:56:34] <FeherNeoH> no cooling at all ?
L439[10:56:39] <AdorableCatgirl> ...
L440[10:56:47] <FeherNeoH> it works 9 months a year this way
L441[10:56:50] <FeherNeoH> then summer comes
L442[10:56:54] <AdorableCatgirl> it's a raspi or the link, i'm guessing?
L443[10:56:56] <AdorableCatgirl> *like
L444[10:57:03] <FeherNeoH> yeah, rPi3
L445[10:57:12] <AdorableCatgirl> ah
L446[10:57:14] <AdorableCatgirl> yeah
L447[10:57:15] <FeherNeoH> at summer it lasts ~5 minutes
L448[10:57:19] <AdorableCatgirl> do you have a heatsink?
L449[10:57:36] <FeherNeoH> and if I connect the fan I planned to use it with, WiFi crashes within minutes
L450[10:57:45] <AdorableCatgirl> if so, just add--wot
L451[10:57:49] <AdorableCatgirl> how does that work?
L452[10:58:09] <FeherNeoH> I have a 12V PC casde fan wired up to 5V on the GPIO header
L453[10:58:37] <AdorableCatgirl> uh
L454[10:58:38] <FeherNeoH> it either causes the voltage to drop, or makes too much noise
L455[10:58:45] <AdorableCatgirl> try a smaller fan
L456[10:58:47] <AdorableCatgirl> ig
L457[10:58:48] <FeherNeoH> and the firmware on the wifi chip crashes
L458[10:58:53] <AdorableCatgirl> like a laptop fan
L459[10:58:57] <AdorableCatgirl> idk
L460[10:59:05] <FeherNeoH> 12V 0.27A did not sound that much
L461[10:59:09] <AdorableCatgirl> i have really tiny fans i took out of the OG xbox
L462[10:59:35] <AdorableCatgirl> 12v 0.27A = 3.24W
L463[10:59:37] <FeherNeoH> I might just connect it to the powerbank used as an UPS instead
L464[10:59:54] <FeherNeoH> okay, then check that for 5V ?
L465[11:00:33] <AdorableCatgirl> V*A = W soooo
L466[11:00:35] <FeherNeoH> 0.09W?
L467[11:01:23] <FeherNeoH> (might be wrong)
L468[11:01:44] <AdorableCatgirl> i don't really know what it'd be drawing on 5V but
L469[11:01:59] <FeherNeoH> assuming R is constant
L470[11:02:10] <FeherNeoH> 5V/(12V/0.27A)
L471[11:02:47] <FeherNeoH> wait, that doesn't look correct
L472[11:02:48] <AdorableCatgirl> one sec
L473[11:02:49] <AdorableCatgirl> i got this
L474[11:02:53] <FeherNeoH> let me open excel
L475[11:04:02] <AdorableCatgirl> 100mA
L476[11:04:12] <AdorableCatgirl> wait
L477[11:04:13] <AdorableCatgirl> no
L478[11:04:19] <AdorableCatgirl> i put 0.24 in
L479[11:04:53] <FeherNeoH> http://tinyurl.com/y6jrm9mg
L480[11:04:58] <AdorableCatgirl> 112.5--
L481[11:05:00] <AdorableCatgirl> yeah
L482[11:06:47] <FeherNeoH> USB connector added, taping it in-place
L483[11:07:00] <FeherNeoH> let's see if wifi still dies this way
L484[11:23:10] <FeherNeoH> http://tinyurl.com/yyb8vu44
L485[11:23:23] <Lizzy> %tonk
L486[11:23:24] <MichiBot> Avada Kedavra! Lizzy! You beat Forecaster's previous record of 53 minutes and 59 seconds (By 2 minutes and 8 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L487[11:23:25] <MichiBot> Lizzy's new record is 56 minutes and 7 seconds! Lizzy also gained 0.00004 tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L488[11:23:32] <Lizzy> woo
L489[11:24:47] <Lizzy> what the hell have you done to your first few GPIO pins!?
L490[11:26:15] <FeherNeoH> the fan power connector had to fit somehow
L491[11:26:28] <FeherNeoH> so the first 3 rows are bent to a V
L492[11:29:11] <Forecaster> %sip
L493[11:29:12] <MichiBot> You drink a thick void potion (New!). Forecaster recovers some mana.
L494[11:36:30] <FeherNeoH> https://pvabel.net/pv/t.pv
L495[11:36:34] <FeherNeoH> it's up
L496[11:36:39] <FeherNeoH> and wifi is still alive
L497[11:36:50] <FeherNeoH> (that random value is the CPU temperature)
L498[11:38:38] <FeherNeoH> *updates kernel to 5.2.5
L499[11:39:07] <Temia> I should probably see if the current kernel is able to run my VM without problems\
L500[11:39:52] <Temia> but I cba
L501[11:40:01] <FeherNeoH> ?
L502[11:41:04] <FeherNeoH> the kernel I use supposedly handles VMs well
L503[11:41:09] <FeherNeoH> but never tried
L504[11:41:19] <FeherNeoH> bcoz 1GB RAM is just not enough
L505[11:43:24] <Temia> Well, putting PCI passthrough into the mix introduces a whole lot of failure points
L506[11:43:28] <Temia> Soooo
L507[11:43:29] * Temia shrugs
L508[11:46:12] <Temia> I'm too sleepy and gay to update anyway
L509[11:46:28] <Temia> But I probably should if I wanna reduce as much overhead as possible to play NieR...
L510[11:46:35] <FeherNeoH> oh, on PC
L511[11:46:36] <Forecaster> %sip
L512[11:46:37] <MichiBot> You drink a smooth spice potion (New!). The bottle turns into an axe.
L513[11:46:45] <FeherNeoH> %sip
L514[11:46:46] <MichiBot> You drink a bubbly amethyst potion (New!). FeherNeoH zones out for 9 minutes.
L515[11:47:02] <Temia> Hm?
L516[11:47:23] <FeherNeoH> never tried PCI passtrough
L517[11:47:27] <Temia> Oh, yeah
L518[11:47:46] <FeherNeoH> my laptop has no IOMMU, my desktop has no graphics card
L519[11:47:52] <Temia> Fair
L520[11:47:59] <Temia> I hate using Windows so I decided a VM with passthrough was the best way to compromise.
L521[11:48:09] <Temia> Don't need to interrupt my workflow on Linux that way
L522[11:48:29] <FeherNeoH> I use multiple machines for that
L523[11:48:41] <FeherNeoH> my desktop doesn't even have Linux (yet)
L524[11:48:55] <Temia> I mean, I used to as well
L525[11:49:05] <Temia> But I had to toss most of my hardware when I moved
L526[11:49:08] <FeherNeoH> my laptops are Arch/Win10 dualboot and Arch/Win10/macOS tripleboot
L527[11:49:25] <FeherNeoH> desktop is plain Win10 for games
L528[11:49:28] <Temia> Also my Windows laptop broke
L529[11:49:35] <Temia> So no gaming on that until I get it fixed
L530[11:49:36] <Temia> %actualshrug
L531[11:49:37] <MichiBot> Temia: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L532[11:49:40] <FeherNeoH> and has an Ubuntu VM for building Android and stuff
L533[11:49:53] <FeherNeoH> my laptop...
L534[11:50:04] <FeherNeoH> has intelHD 4600 and nvidia 710M
L535[11:50:15] <FeherNeoH> that's like if it only had intel
L536[11:50:26] <Temia> Besides, even with overhead, my Windows VM with a 1070Ti is still faster than my laptop ever could be
L537[11:50:39] <Temia> `Er, not Ti. I think.
L538[11:50:41] <Temia> Whatever.
L539[11:50:44] <Temia> I am sleepy.
L540[11:50:50] <Mimiru> I feel ya ._.
L541[11:51:00] <FeherNeoH> https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-HD-4600-Mobile-115-GHz-vs-Nvidia-GeForce-710M/m7676vsm10751
L542[11:51:01] <Mimiru> sleep @ ~3ish, back up at 6
L543[11:51:02] * Temia curls up with Mimiru. zzzmoo
L544[11:51:09] <FeherNeoH> the intel one has higher scores
L545[11:56:16] <Temia> Oh yeah, my onboard is an HD4600 too.
L546[11:56:24] <Temia> Onboard and thus the hypervisor graphics
L547[11:57:26] <FeherNeoH> 4600 is pretty good
L548[11:57:53] <FeherNeoH> but my new integrated (the one in the desktop) is way better
L549[11:57:55] <FeherNeoH> Vega 11
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L551[12:07:08] <Mimiru> 900mg caffeine not enough..
L552[12:07:10] <Mimiru> need.
L553[12:07:11] <Mimiru> more.
L554[12:09:41] <Inari> Nep
L555[12:10:04] <Inari> AmandaC: asta's yelling?
L556[12:11:07] <Inari> AmandaC: haha, cute cat
L557[12:15:47] <Forecaster> ooh, 10 million, same trip down to the planet as last time
L558[12:15:56] <Forecaster> no anacondas chasing me this time so far
L559[12:21:10] <Mimiru> My anaconda don't want.... meh
L560[12:21:41] <Inari> %pet Mimiru
L561[12:21:41] * MichiBot brushes Mimiru with a Magic 1x Compressed Sentence! (25%). 21 health gained (19+2)!
L562[12:26:11] <AmandaC> Inari: in Black Clover
L563[12:26:32] <Inari> I see
L564[12:27:13] * Inari pours a bucket of steam on AmandaC
L565[12:30:14] <AmandaC> D:
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L567[13:23:36] <Forecaster> %tonk
L568[13:23:37] <MichiBot> Jeepers! Forecaster! You beat Lizzy's previous record of 56 minutes and 7 seconds (By 1 hour, 4 minutes and 5 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L569[13:23:38] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 2 hours and 13 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.00107 tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L570[13:23:51] <Forecaster> %sip mutable silver potion
L571[13:23:51] <MichiBot> Forecaster turns into a jumbonium spaghetti for 44 minutes.
L572[13:44:03] <asie> %sip
L573[13:44:03] <MichiBot> You drink a prickly aether potion (New!). 3 nearby pebbles suddenly shift slightly in asie's direction.
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L575[13:51:26] <FeherNeoH> %sip
L576[13:51:26] <MichiBot> You drink a slimy caterium potion (New!). FeherNeoH feels slightly slower.
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L580[14:05:58] <Forecaster> That's not food! https://i.imgur.com/LhGPYpi.gifv
L581[14:09:51] <Inari> poor confused birb
L582[14:16:58] <Soni> well, it looks like food
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L584[14:17:16] <Soni> :p
L585[14:17:22] <Inari> Isn't that the kinda bird that needs to eat very often too
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L587[14:20:00] * Inari flops around, bored
L588[14:24:19] <Inari> https://imgur.com/gallery/ODfazOL thats pretty cool
L589[14:34:24] <ben_mkiv|afk> well... its neat
L590[14:34:51] <Inari> ben_mkiv|afk: You're neat
L591[14:34:56] <ben_mkiv|afk> wonder how large the screen is as i was about to get some 1" oled
L592[14:35:00] <ben_mkiv|afk> thank you
L593[14:35:39] *** ben_mkiv|afk is now known as ben_mkiv
L594[14:47:40] <Soni> does OC work on 1.12.2?
L595[14:47:58] <FeherNeoH> yes it does
L596[14:48:32] <Soni> oh. the github defaults to 1.7.10
L597[14:48:57] <Bob> obviously it does
L598[14:49:15] <Bob> hop on master
L599[14:53:21] <Inari> @Bob lewd
L600[14:53:32] <Forecaster> %sip
L601[14:53:32] <MichiBot> You drink a smooth weather potion (New!). The next remote Forecaster looks for is extra hard to find.
L602[14:53:58] <Forecaster> fortunately my remotes don't wander
L603[14:55:26] <Bob> Inari http://tinyurl.com/y38hqxel
L604[14:56:25] <Inari> @Bob https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/373249642076569602/607960113445339137/FB_IMG_1564402873447-1.jpg
L605[14:56:58] <Soni> how much of 14MB is lua natives
L606[14:57:14] <Forecaster> 14.2MB
L607[14:58:31] <Bob> Inari heck ?
L608[15:01:37] <Soni> I kinda wanna create an integrated javadoc viewer and editor for the web
L609[15:02:06] <Inari> Damn,my optifine MC attempt crashes
L610[15:02:08] <Soni> (basically, standard javadoc pages, but with an attached DB and the ability to click the descriptions and stuff to change them.)
L611[15:02:31] <Soni> (well, ideally it'd also be able to do that for names :p)
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L616[15:32:10] <Mimiru> great... I just got voluntold to join the Safety Committee... then got voluntold again that I was the Flag Master for my department, and the 2 others near us.. :(
L617[15:32:23] <Mimiru> %flip
L618[15:32:24] <MichiBot> Mimiru: (╯°□°）╯┻━┻
L619[15:32:59] <Mimiru> OH And... evacuation drill next Tuesday. q_q
L620[15:34:51] <Forecaster> safety dance safety dance
L621[15:35:15] <Kodos> The obvious solution is to be terrible at that so they put it onto someone else
L622[15:36:15] <Mimiru> Unfortunately... I'm the best choice
L623[15:36:16] * Mimiru sighs
L624[15:36:53] <Forecaster> the problem with being competent, is that you have to do stuff
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L626[15:45:14] <FeherNeoH> %tonk
L627[15:45:15] <MichiBot> Consarn it! FeherNeoH! You beat Forecaster's previous record of 2 hours and 13 seconds (By 21 minutes and 24 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L628[15:45:16] <MichiBot> FeherNeoH's new record is 2 hours, 21 minutes and 37 seconds! FeherNeoH also gained 0.00108 (0.00036 x 3) tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L629[15:45:41] <FeherNeoH> I guess I can't do the math this late
L630[15:45:53] <Forecaster> you did it though
L631[15:46:06] <FeherNeoH> No, I thought I would get ~3 mins
L632[15:46:36] <FeherNeoH> So I have definitely messed up
L633[15:47:16] <Forecaster> the gap being bigger is better though
L634[15:52:06] * Lizzy wants to re-do her home server at some point so she can set stuff up a little better and also get samba to use btrfs snapshots for shadow copies
L635[16:02:20] <payonel> Izaya: sorry i went afk after my wave. you asked about worker threads. the thread api works well for that. you'll see the same performance with that as with event.listen. but instead, in theads you can event.pull what you want
L636[16:03:52] <Izaya> payonel: shiny :D
L637[16:07:53] <payonel> %lua print(1/2)
L638[16:07:53] <MichiBot> 0.5
L639[16:07:58] <payonel> AmandaC: i can do that ^
L640[16:08:02] <payonel> %lua print(1/2.2)
L641[16:08:02] <MichiBot> 0.45454545454545
L642[16:08:07] <payonel> but not that ^ (yet)
L643[16:08:32] <AmandaC> heh
L644[16:13:29] <Forecaster> MichBot is superior! Rah
L645[16:14:06] <payonel> Soni: 13696 bytes of natives
L646[16:15:38] <Soni> payonel: lua's .so is 235kb on my system, there's no way you only have 13kb of natives in the OC jar
L647[16:16:41] <payonel> i meant KB
L648[16:19:04] <payonel> but that's 14M when uncompressed. interestingly, if i rezip the mod without the natives, it is still 11MB
L649[16:20:25] <Bob> the code
L650[16:20:38] <payonel> fwiw, if i zip it myself, i seem to gain 1.5%
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L652[16:21:37] <payonel> using zip 3.0, and no compression options, just `zip $target * -r`
L653[16:21:38] <Soni> o.o
L654[16:22:31] <Soni> I was expecting the natives to be bigger than the mod. I was wrong.
L655[16:22:51] <payonel> anyways, removing the natives, then zipping it myself, the file drops 4601644 (or 4.39 MB)
L656[16:23:37] <Soni> you know, zip stores files individually, there's no inter-file compression
L657[16:24:05] <Soni> I guess you have a bunch of images/screenshots for the manual pages
L658[16:24:15] <Soni> as well as all the items and stuff
L659[16:24:22] <Soni> but still, I did not expect that
L660[16:25:45] <Soni> also uh why does the wiki say this Only comment if it's something complicated/non obvious. Keep in mind that comments increase file size, which increases the amount of RAM required to load your program!
L661[16:25:59] <Soni> comments do not increase RAM requirements
L662[16:26:08] <Mimiru> https://drive.pc-logix.com/index.php/s/YQ52BnCkHzMMsAE
L663[16:26:10] <Soni> they do increase storage requirements tho
L664[16:26:14] <Mimiru> A quick breakdown, if you wondered :P
L665[16:26:26] <asie> it does require the amount of RAM required to load it, i'm pretty sure
L666[16:26:36] <asie> all Lua allocations, including file reading, go through the RAM bounds check
L667[16:26:48] <asie> it doesn't increase the runtime amount, assuming Lua throws the loaded text out
L668[16:27:22] <Mimiru> You know what they say about people who make assumptions. It makes an ass out of you... and umptions.
L669[16:27:24] <Mimiru> :P
L670[16:27:33] <Soni> asie: lua is buffered, so whether you have 1000 comments or 0, if your file is bigger than the buffer size, it doesn't matter
L671[16:27:51] <Mimiru> s/ um/m/
L672[16:27:52] <MichiBot> <Mimiru> You know what they say about people who make assumptions. It makes an ass out of you... andmptions.
L673[16:27:56] <Mimiru> ffs
L674[16:27:59] <Mimiru> close enough
L675[16:28:14] <Soni> take it from someone who uh, may have spent slightly too much time reverse engineering the lua parser, for reasons
L676[16:28:24] <Izaya> man it'd be nice if like
L677[16:28:30] <Izaya> either my internet would stop intermittently disconnecting
L678[16:28:37] <Soni> (as well as rewriting it in some very unusual DSLs)
L679[16:28:40] <Izaya> or my router would be able to remember settings after it reconnects
L680[16:29:14] <asie> Soni: mmmmhm
L681[16:29:49] <Soni> asie: I can't tell if you believe me or not, but in any case https://marc.info/?l=lua-l&m=156458156026332&w=2
L682[16:30:02] <Soni> this should work in OC altho I haven't got around to testing it yet
L683[16:30:02] <asie> i do
L684[16:30:38] <Soni> (also I recommend v2.0.0 from git rather than v1.0.1. I kinda fixed some bugs and renamed some things and generally cleaned it up a bit.)
L685[16:31:14] <Soni> I basically turned the Lua parser from C into a weird table-based DSL
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L687[16:32:11] <Soni> https://bpaste.net/show/U9ir
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L689[16:32:14] <Soni> (as an example)
L690[16:32:21] <Soni> it's not the most efficient :p
L691[16:32:43] <Soni> was fun tho
L692[16:36:49] <Soni> so if I wanna convert a CC program that uses file I/O to OC, do I just get rid of the os.queueEvent/os.pullEvent stuff?
L693[16:37:18] <Soni> file I/O is yieldy in OC, no?
L694[16:43:08] <payonel> Soni: we aren't loading lua strings through lua's very own load because there is no native filesystem
L695[16:43:17] <payonel> so any buffering is also happening inside the sandbox
L696[16:44:36] <Soni> payonel: ah, yeah, ofc. but as long as you're not doing load(file:read("*a")) and instead using something like load(function() file:read(8192) end), it should be fine.
L697[16:45:15] <Soni> (oh wait you don't have yieldable load() do you)
L698[16:45:28] <payonel> file i/o is a direct component call, it doesn't yield unless oc feels like it
L699[16:45:33] <payonel> nope
L700[16:45:40] <Soni> oh
L701[16:46:01] <Soni> whelp
L702[16:46:56] <payonel> Soni: https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/blob/master-MC1.7.10/src/main/resources/assets/opencomputers/loot/openos/boot/00_base.lua#L1
L703[16:47:17] <payonel> anyways, the ram cost of comments should only affect temporary allocations
L704[16:47:19] <Soni> *sigh*
L705[16:48:46] <Soni> well, at least you already use a patched lua. altho idk how to give load() yielding support.
L706[16:49:37] <payonel> the doc you linked is slightly misleading. the mem cost is temporary
L707[16:50:21] <payonel> where is that link...did someone link something in the docs about comments and ram?
L708[16:50:46] <Soni> oh, no, I was just going through it trying to figure out how to port my programs
L709[16:51:27] <Soni> https://ocdoc.cil.li/lua_conventions
L710[16:51:49] <Soni> I mean, it says "load", not "run", so I assumed it was temporary
L711[16:52:00] <Soni> I'm not sure how you'd rephrase that to be less confusing
L712[16:52:52] <payonel> oh...well it is still misleading
L713[16:53:03] <payonel> i dont think people should worry about comments
L714[16:59:15] <Bob> i wish i knew tha before
L715[16:59:18] <Bob> i wrote my frist scripts
L716[16:59:23] <Bob> they are hell literally
L717[16:59:56] <payonel> @bob like i'm trying to say, it really doesn't matter
L718[17:00:03] <Bob> well yea
L719[17:00:10] <Bob> code works then its okay but still
L720[17:00:15] <Bob> for future me and other people
L721[17:00:35] <Bob> ~~but i like 1 space indents~~
L722[17:00:37] <payonel> no i'm saying, the ram it uses to load may be a bit inflated, but it is tossed soon after
L723[17:00:56] <Kodos> Bob, don't let Vexatos see you say that
L724[17:01:00] <payonel> oh you mean, you made them super succinct?
L725[17:01:16] <Izaya> 1 space stronk
L726[17:01:56] <Soni> I see os.sleep(0.05) *still* doesn't sleep 1 tick
L727[17:02:00] <Vexatos> q_q
L728[17:02:42] <payonel> there, reworded it: Feel free to comment your code. Any additional memory needed to load your file due to heavy use of comments is released soon after loading is complete.
L729[17:02:58] <payonel> Soni: and why would it? :)
L730[17:03:18] <Soni> payonel: why wouldn't it? I'd rather have sleep in ticks than sleep in seconds
L731[17:03:36] <payonel> and what about machines that want to run longer than a tick?
L732[17:03:37] <Soni> mostly because things like NBS work in ticks, not in seconds
L733[17:03:47] <Izaya> mfw I'm more interested in dropping comments to save disk space than anything else
L734[17:03:58] <Soni> payonel: what do you mean?
L735[17:04:51] <payonel> resources are limited. i can't force the server to wake machines up every tick (without consequences)
L736[17:05:25] <Bob> lets use ; as indentation
L737[17:05:29] <Bob> im a genius
L738[17:05:37] <Soni> I feel like we already argued about this
L739[17:05:45] <Soni> I'm just suggesting you use integers internally instead of floats
L740[17:06:09] <Soni> sleep(0.05) -> native_sleep(1) -> etc
L741[17:06:27] <Izaya> https://virtuallyfun.com/wordpress/2019/08/05/confessions-of-a-paranoid-dec-engineer-robert-supnik-talks-about-the-great-dungeon-heist/
L742[17:06:31] <Izaya> Skye, CompanionCube ^
L743[17:06:45] <Soni> no guarantees that it won't sleep longer, ofc, but at least tie the minimum sleep to a server tick
L744[17:06:57] <Soni> and define a server tick as one time unit
L745[17:07:15] <CompanionCube> ooh, looks good for later
L746[17:07:26] <Izaya> so you're suggesting coroutine.yield at the highest level a computer can should take at least one tick?
L747[17:08:02] <payonel> Izaya: no, they're saying computer.pullSignal(.05) should equate to least 1 tick, when the queue is empty
L748[17:08:19] <Izaya> that seems like a pain to ensure
L749[17:08:38] <Izaya> doesn't stuff like redstone changes only occur per tick anyway?
L750[17:09:01] <Soni> I guess I could somehow pad the NBS songs and store them on tape
L751[17:09:25] <Soni> and then somehow time the tape so each tick read takes a tick
L752[17:09:36] <Soni> (computronics tape)
L753[17:09:46] <Izaya> >not wool and glass tape
L754[17:09:48] <Soni> that'd be tricky to do
L755[17:10:07] <Bob> i still can't encode DFPWM properly
L756[17:10:22] <Soni> can ffmpeg output DSD yet?
L757[17:10:24] <Bob> the java app messes up a lot
L758[17:10:48] <Soni> (DSD is roughly equivalent to DFPWM)
L759[17:11:22] <AmandaC> %8ball irradiate?
L760[17:11:23] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Outlook not so good
L761[17:12:11] <Soni> (it'd be interesting to try and play a downsampled DSD on a tape drive)
L762[17:16:43] <Inari> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/309529094452936705/608031146315350016/67844295_2383819088538517_4783862083273883648_n.png
L763[17:17:00] <AmandaC> %bap Inari
L764[17:17:00] * MichiBot baps Inari with the all new 2001 Isuzu Trooper
L765[17:17:01] <AmandaC> no
L766[17:17:06] <AmandaC> Those are for nom, not for "use"
L767[17:17:07] <Inari> :<
L768[17:17:08] <Inari> But but
L769[17:17:30] * AmandaC drags Inari's bottom drawer out of her dresser, stares pointedly
L770[17:17:45] <Inari> L-lewd
L771[17:17:45] <Bob> oof
L772[17:17:54] <Bob> %inari
L773[17:17:54] <MichiBot> Bob: http://i.imgur.com/XoYgHyi.gif
L774[17:17:57] * payonel notices a lot of cucumbers in there
L775[17:18:05] <AmandaC> D:
L776[17:18:08] <Inari> Haha
L777[17:18:26] <Inari> payonel: They're for practice
L778[17:18:27] <AmandaC> such a waste of a perfectly good vegtible
L779[17:18:40] <AmandaC> %choose irradiate or ONI
L780[17:18:41] <MichiBot> AmandaC: I spy with my robotic eye something beginning with "irradiate"!
L781[17:18:49] <AmandaC> Hrm.
L782[17:18:54] <Inari> https://imgur.com/gallery/VsJhDOZ
L783[17:19:00] <AmandaC> I disagree, feel like seeing if I can un-fuck my colony some more
L784[17:19:16] <AmandaC> Everyone's suffocating. :D
L785[17:19:34] <Inari> AmandaC: Oxygen?
L786[17:19:45] <AmandaC> Inari: it's not included
L787[17:20:00] <Inari> Hehe
L788[17:20:03] <Inari> I need to get that at some point
L789[17:20:06] <Soni> o.o
L790[17:20:39] <Izaya> https://i.4cdn.org/o/1564993572030.jpg
L791[17:20:57] <Bob> destroyed by facts and logic
L792[17:22:15] <Inari> AmandaC: How about some Mya-nee?
L793[17:22:40] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cd5QuZq5jmg
L794[17:22:41] <MichiBot> Mya-nee 10 hours | length: 10h 43s | Likes: 66,608 Dislikes: 824 Views: 1,420,763 | by DestructionX09 | Published On 21/2/2019
L795[17:24:13] <AmandaC> %bap Inari
L796[17:24:14] * MichiBot baps Inari with baout right
L797[17:24:23] <Inari> :<
L798[17:25:01] <Inari> AmandaC: You're right, Miya is far superior. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeQtjSlqA-8
L799[17:25:01] <MichiBot> Miya's Can Can HD [720p] | length: 1m 47s | Likes: 1,730 Dislikes: 19 Views: 70,272 | by SDeHDVideo | Published On 27/7/2012
L800[17:26:18] <Inari> Anyway, need to have my bedtime snack and then get to bed
L801[17:26:20] <Inari> Getting way too sleepy
L802[17:26:40] <payonel> Inari: get a good pillow for tonight
L803[17:26:44] <payonel> you got bapped quite a few times today
L804[17:26:49] <Inari> Haha
L805[17:26:52] <Inari> Why thanks
L806[17:26:57] <Inari> I should order a Monster Hunter pillow
L807[17:28:23] <Inari> https://store.capcom-europe.com/accessories/other/1445/monster-hunter-cushion-felyne-potion guess it's a cushion, not a pillow though
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L810[17:47:00] <Soni> oh right NBS files don't support surround/panning :<
L811[17:48:40] <AdorableCatgirl> Izaya: my internet is trashtier rn
L812[17:48:57] <Izaya> fun times
L813[17:49:03] <Bob> Same
L814[17:49:07] <AdorableCatgirl> ooor my server just lost power
L815[17:49:08] <Bob> it goes worse and worse
L816[17:49:32] <AdorableCatgirl> Izaya: can you connect to it?
L817[17:49:41] <Izaya> nop
L818[17:49:47] <AdorableCatgirl> fuck
L819[17:50:07] <AdorableCatgirl> yeah there's a big storm back where i live
L820[17:50:22] <AdorableCatgirl> currently i'm out of state but
L821[17:53:27] <Bob> Fekeen isp
L822[17:53:32] <AdorableCatgirl> Izaya: Server might be back up soon
L823[17:53:38] <Bob> Gone from 50 mbps to 1
L824[17:53:44] <Bob> what the fuck is even happening
L825[17:54:01] <AdorableCatgirl> FUCK
L826[17:54:06] <Bob> isps
L827[17:54:33] <AdorableCatgirl> I THINK I FORGOT TO MAKE IT START AFTER POWER FAILURE
L828[17:54:38] <AdorableCatgirl> can i get an f
L829[17:54:51] <Izaya> f
L830[17:54:53] <Izaya> ssh in
L831[17:55:02] <AdorableCatgirl> i can't
L832[17:55:06] <Izaya> ?.?
L833[17:55:14] <AdorableCatgirl> the entire computer won't start
L834[17:55:19] <Izaya> oh.
L835[17:55:41] <AdorableCatgirl> http://tinyurl.com/yycpudv9
L836[17:55:54] <Izaya> R I P
L837[17:56:23] <AdorableCatgirl> yea
L838[17:56:32] <AdorableCatgirl> that PC doesn't like losing power for any reason
L839[17:56:49] <AdorableCatgirl> but my interface/webhost PC is better with it
L840[17:57:10] <Izaya> no WoL enabled?
L841[17:57:19] <AdorableCatgirl> nope
L842[17:57:23] <AdorableCatgirl> mistakes were made
L843[17:57:27] <AdorableCatgirl> also
L844[17:57:34] <AdorableCatgirl> here's to hoping it just got a new IP or something
L845[17:57:45] <AdorableCatgirl> because i may have fucked it up like that
L846[17:57:57] <AdorableCatgirl> and didn't give it a static IP or w/e
L847[17:58:17] <AdorableCatgirl> i wonder if i can use firefox over SSH lmao
L848[17:58:57] <AdorableCatgirl> so i can use the router configuration
L849[17:59:15] <AdorableCatgirl> fuuuuck
L850[17:59:17] <AdorableCatgirl> i hate ubuntu
L851[17:59:21] <AdorableCatgirl> "no space left on device"
L852[17:59:30] <AdorableCatgirl> ***why the fuck do you not clean up old kernels***
L853[18:00:18] <Izaya> install haiku
L854[18:00:23] <Izaya> https://www.haiku-os.org/blog/waddlesplash/2019-08-03_haiku_activity_report_july_2019/
L855[18:01:10] <AdorableCatgirl> holy fuck
L856[18:01:12] <AdorableCatgirl> it werked
L857[18:01:33] <AdorableCatgirl> wait no
L858[18:01:35] <AdorableCatgirl> it didn't
L859[18:01:35] <AdorableCatgirl> fuck
L860[18:01:45] * Izaya closes minecraft again
L861[18:03:31] <AmandaC> RIP Ashken, he decided a flooded hallway was a good place to sleep: https://nc.ddna.co/s/dHo98mbQKpE2art
L862[18:05:12] <AdorableCatgirl> i can't use links to use the router config
L863[18:05:13] <AdorableCatgirl> ffs
L864[18:05:58] ⇦ Quits: flappy (flappy!~flappy@88-113-149-197.elisa-laajakaista.fi) (Ping timeout: 190 seconds)
L865[18:06:35] <Izaya> AdorableCatgirl: ssh -D 1080, configure firefox to use a socks5 proxy on localhost:1080 on your local machine
L866[18:07:28] <AdorableCatgirl> oh shit
L867[18:07:34] <AdorableCatgirl> yeah good point
L868[18:09:02] <AdorableCatgirl> thanks
L869[18:09:14] <AdorableCatgirl> all my googling was like "only one port lmao"
L870[18:09:35] <payonel> also...for an allegedly adorable creature, you swear a lot :)
L871[18:09:57] <AdorableCatgirl> well
L872[18:09:59] <AdorableCatgirl> it didn't start
L873[18:10:05] <AdorableCatgirl> payonel: :^)
L874[18:10:08] <AdorableCatgirl> brb
L875[18:10:12] <AdorableCatgirl> or bbl
L876[18:28:14] <Izaya> why is everyone on holidays all of a sudden
L877[18:32:07] <The_Stargazer> ^
L878[18:35:00] <AmandaC> Just what I need, a disease-prone doctor! https://nc.ddna.co/s/w4SMQcjejxmxSxd
L879[18:40:11] <AdorableCatgirl> Izaya: because august
L880[18:40:45] <Z0idburg> well then
L881[18:41:43] <Izaya> but semester 2 started like
L882[18:41:46] <Izaya> 2 weeks ago
L883[18:43:53] <AdorableCatgirl> Izaya: northern hemisphere, duh
L884[18:44:09] <Izaya> first semester started 2 weeks ago then
L885[18:45:25] <Izaya> >cheab CB750 on gumtree ($3.5k)
L886[18:45:27] <Izaya> yay
L887[18:45:29] <Izaya> >Gold Coast
L888[18:45:34] <Izaya> fuck it's rusted to fuck
L889[18:46:16] <Z0idburg> I'm looking for a Jeep J20 with an AMC 410 in it
L890[18:47:37] <Z0idburg> HAH
L891[18:47:44] <Z0idburg> this person put the AMC 410 in a CJ7 XD
L892[18:47:53] <Z0idburg> Izaya: skip to 0:55
L893[18:47:53] <Z0idburg> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEvX1bLkHb4
L894[18:47:54] <MichiBot> 82 Jeep CJ7 with a built AMC 401 | length: 2m 40s | Likes: 373 Dislikes: 21 Views: 171,706 | by Jody Abbott | Published On 19/4/2012
L895[18:48:12] <Z0idburg> That thing is a monster
L896[18:48:52] <Z0idburg> Thing goes from like 65 to 85 in 1 second LOL
L897[18:49:42] <Z0idburg> So this is a J20, they came with the 410s: http://tinyurl.com/y5yuj4ux
L898[18:49:45] <Z0idburg> I want one now ?
L899[19:00:10] <AdorableCatgirl> i just want the diesel engine from the new isuzu mu-x but they don't sell the sobs in america
L900[19:00:54] <Izaya> gonna get myself an 80s Toyota Hilux for peanuts
L901[19:00:56] <Z0idburg> order it and swap it
L902[19:01:04] <Izaya> need a manual to get my license in
L903[19:01:23] <AdorableCatgirl> the rz4e-tcx seems like a nice engine tbh
L904[19:01:25] <Z0idburg> what do you mean need a manual to get your license in
L905[19:01:55] <Izaya> if I get my license in an auto I'm not allowed to drive a manual until I re-do the whole thing in a manual
L906[19:02:04] <Z0idburg> wait what
L907[19:02:09] <Z0idburg> that does not sound reasonable
L908[19:02:14] <Izaya> I agree
L909[19:02:23] <Z0idburg> Here in the US there is no restriction
L910[19:02:28] <Z0idburg> you get a license you drive whatever you want
L911[19:02:28] <AdorableCatgirl> a tiny diesel for a tiny little truck
L912[19:02:42] <Izaya> the US has lots of dumb stuff of its own
L913[19:02:44] <Izaya> I'm just saying
L914[19:02:49] <Z0idburg> right
L915[19:02:56] <Z0idburg> but you shouldn't restrict the transmission type
L916[19:02:58] <Izaya> Pass your MSF? Go buy an R1 and ride straight into a wall!
L917[19:03:06] <Z0idburg> I'd probably say fuck it and drive whatever I wanted just to see what they'd do
L918[19:03:19] <Izaya> honestly I can understand having to do a test after you get your auto license to prove you can drive a manual
L919[19:03:23] <Z0idburg> probably just a fine, guesisng
L920[19:03:25] <Izaya> but it's so much fucking around
L921[19:03:35] <Izaya> so I'm gonna get myself a cute little ute
L922[19:03:56] <Z0idburg> borrow somebody'
L923[19:03:59] <Z0idburg> somebody's car
L924[19:04:19] <Izaya> if you do your 120 hours in an auto it doesn't count
L925[19:04:24] <Izaya> and besides, I want a ute
L926[19:04:37] <Izaya> if I'm gonna get a car it might as well be useful and indestructible
L927[19:04:54] <Z0idburg> 120 hours eh
L928[19:05:03] <Z0idburg> I didn't have to do hours because I was over 21 when I got my permit
L929[19:05:14] <Z0idburg> so I got my permit, drove around for a few weeks, called it good and got my license
L930[19:05:30] <AdorableCatgirl> oof
L931[19:05:33] <Izaya> well if I wait till I'm 25 I can get my open motorcycle license and skip my L's for in a car
L932[19:05:43] <Izaya> but that means I'm 27 when I'm on my open license
L933[19:05:54] <Z0idburg> I see
L934[19:06:21] <Izaya> (I can get my open license on my bike in 2 years from now but you need to be 25 to skip L's in another class
L935[19:09:35] <Z0idburg> you've been riding without a license?
L936[19:10:15] <Izaya> no
L937[19:10:17] <Izaya> I'm on my L's
L938[19:10:39] <Izaya> I can go for my P's now but that's 2 years and there's nothing I can do about that
L939[19:10:49] <The_Stargazer> your what's?
L940[19:11:06] <AdorableCatgirl> Izaya: by the way, once the server is back up, i can give you some high tier tools if you want lmao
L941[19:11:12] <Izaya> L plates
L942[19:11:18] <The_Stargazer> learner plates?
L943[19:11:21] <Izaya> yup
L944[19:11:44] <Izaya> in aus you have at least 3 months on L's, then 2 years of P's, unless you're over 25 where it's only one year
L945[19:11:53] <AdorableCatgirl> like cobalt or manyulyn or w/e
L946[19:12:04] <Izaya> AdorableCatgirl: eh I'm not that worried
L947[19:12:07] <Izaya> wouldn't argue though
L948[19:12:15] <AdorableCatgirl> kek
L949[19:12:26] <AdorableCatgirl> i just figured you'd want a nice pick
L950[19:12:49] <The_Stargazer> what are P's?
L951[19:12:51] <Izaya> kind of a pain if I have to keep repairing it y'know
L952[19:12:54] <Izaya> probationary
L953[19:12:57] <The_Stargazer> ah
L954[19:13:02] <Izaya> still restricted to LAMS bikes
L955[19:13:09] <Izaya> a right pain :<
L956[19:13:11] <AmandaC> %tell Inari Halp! https://imgur.com/gallery/EsEhKPY
L957[19:13:12] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Inari will be notified of this message when next seen.
L958[19:13:18] <Izaya> also only 2 demerit points
L959[19:14:15] <Z0idburg> lol
L960[19:14:26] <Z0idburg> lams huh
L961[19:14:40] <AdorableCatgirl> Izaya: i could give it a bedrock handle or w/e and it'd be unbreakable
L962[19:14:41] <The_Stargazer> hmm
L963[19:14:42] <The_Stargazer> the FX-8350 is apparently the cheapest cpu on pcpartpicker
L964[19:14:48] <Izaya> http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/roads/licence/rider/approved-novice-motorcycles.html
L965[19:14:56] <Z0idburg> up to 600 cc though izaya
L966[19:14:57] <AmandaC> %cjoose ☢️ or ?or ?
L967[19:14:59] <Izaya> inb4 the RMS site is down
L968[19:15:04] <Izaya> S3: only with limiters
L969[19:15:09] <AdorableCatgirl> the only problem is i need to power a bedrock breaker
L970[19:15:18] <Izaya> my ZZR250 performs similarly to most limited 600s
L971[19:15:20] <Izaya> so
L972[19:15:24] <Z0idburg> I see the ninja 500R is a great bike for fuel mileage, and performance as well as price
L973[19:15:24] <Izaya> I'm gonna stick to the lighter option
L974[19:15:31] <AmandaC> %choose ☢️ or ?or ?
L975[19:15:32] <MichiBot> AmandaC: If I've learned anything in life it's that you always pick "☢️"
L976[19:15:51] <AmandaC> Herm
L977[19:15:54] <The_Stargazer> $94, 4GHz 8-cores
L978[19:15:54] <The_Stargazer> there's gotta be a catch though
L979[19:15:56] <Izaya> the 500R is nice looking too
L980[19:16:09] <Izaya> The_Stargazer: that family of CPUs has ... mediocre CPU performance
L981[19:16:14] <Izaya> well, single-core
L982[19:16:23] <The_Stargazer> ?
L983[19:16:27] <The_Stargazer> it's an octacore CPU
L984[19:16:39] <Izaya> they destroyed for multi-core stuff but single-core stuff is quite slow vs their contemporaries
L985[19:17:11] <The_Stargazer> i'm confused
L986[19:17:26] <The_Stargazer> do you mean that they work great for applications that are multithreaded?
L987[19:17:32] <Izaya> exactly
L988[19:17:41] <Izaya> but single-thread stuff on them was painful
L989[19:17:59] <The_Stargazer> so should I go for it or nah
L990[19:18:00] <The_Stargazer> (am looking at building my own PC)
L991[19:18:09] <Izaya> if you're buying stuff that old
L992[19:18:12] <The_Stargazer> iirc mc is single-threaded right?
L993[19:18:17] <Izaya> effectively
L994[19:18:28] <Izaya> get yourself an Optiplex 9020 or similar to steal the CPU/motherboard/RAM from
L995[19:18:28] <The_Stargazer> i'm liking it because two reasons
L996[19:18:31] <The_Stargazer> a) it's AMD
L997[19:18:36] <The_Stargazer> b) it's cheap
L998[19:18:52] <Izaya> $200, i5, 8GB of RAM, mostly standard motherboard
L999[19:19:08] <The_Stargazer> laptop?
L1000[19:19:21] <Izaya> ...
L1001[19:19:23] <The_Stargazer> no, desktop
L1002[19:20:27] <AdorableCatgirl> i told him he could get a sub 100 PC lmao
L1003[19:20:46] <The_Stargazer> wait, what
L1004[19:20:55] <The_Stargazer> sub-100?
L1005[19:20:55] <The_Stargazer> how much RAM
L1006[19:21:17] <The_Stargazer> the build I might go for is about $1300
L1007[19:21:23] <Izaya> I mean, if you went for a 9000 it'd be $150 for the same thing but with a slightly older i5
L1008[19:21:27] <Izaya> >$1300
L1009[19:21:28] <The_Stargazer> exactly $1256.58
L1010[19:21:30] <Izaya> >FX 8350
L1011[19:21:32] <Izaya> how
L1012[19:21:45] <The_Stargazer> i'll link you it
L1013[19:21:52] * Izaya braces
L1014[19:21:55] <The_Stargazer> https://nz.pcpartpicker.com/list/6DWwGG
L1015[19:22:09] <AdorableCatgirl> oh i forgot you were NZ
L1016[19:22:24] <The_Stargazer> rgb fan only because it's cheap
L1017[19:22:24] <The_Stargazer> not a **fan** of RGB
L1018[19:22:28] <The_Stargazer> ..i'm sorry
L1019[19:22:36] <Izaya> where to start
L1020[19:22:51] <Izaya> for that price, I'd go for an AM4 processor of some sort
L1021[19:22:53] <AdorableCatgirl> i was gonna say a Pentium (?) J5000 seriea board
L1022[19:22:58] <AdorableCatgirl> or was it a J4000 series board
L1023[19:23:11] <Izaya> you can get a much cheaper RX580 for 200AUD on banggood/aliexpress/whatever, or by paying attention to local sales
L1024[19:23:20] <The_Stargazer> i don't trust those sites
L1025[19:23:24] <Izaya> fuck off that CPU cooler
L1026[19:23:31] <Izaya> $100 for a $15 item
L1027[19:23:38] <AdorableCatgirl> DON'T BUY SEAGATE
L1028[19:23:47] <Izaya> unless it's free
L1029[19:23:50] <The_Stargazer> what's wrong with seagate
L1030[19:23:53] <AdorableCatgirl> ***DON'T BUY SEAGATE***
L1031[19:23:59] <The_Stargazer> ***OK***
L1032[19:24:07] <Izaya> seagate had lots of reliability issues
L1033[19:24:09] <AdorableCatgirl> they are the jankiest, most unreliable drives to exist
L1034[19:24:18] <The_Stargazer> problem is wd drives have the stupid intellipark shit
L1035[19:24:21] <Izaya> they seem to have improved somewhat based on recent backblaze stats
L1036[19:24:33] <AdorableCatgirl> iirc their most comon 2.5inch drives still eat ass tho
L1037[19:25:17] <The_Stargazer> theres a 4tb wd blue for about $200
L1038[19:25:17] <The_Stargazer> but intellipark
L1039[19:25:23] <Z0idburg> izaya is your bike chain driven
L1040[19:25:28] <Izaya> https://www.backblaze.com/blog/backblaze-hard-drive-stats-q1-2019/
L1041[19:25:30] <The_Stargazer> but, 5400RPM
L1042[19:25:31] <Izaya> S3: of course
L1043[19:25:34] <AdorableCatgirl> anyways didn't backblaze also have some Toshiba drives that were godtier?
L1044[19:25:38] <Z0idburg> you should get one of those rare shaft driven ones
L1045[19:25:39] <Z0idburg> ?
L1046[19:25:45] <Izaya> can I not
L1047[19:25:49] <Z0idburg> because ridiculous
L1048[19:25:52] <Izaya> actually I'd totall get a CX500
L1049[19:26:11] <Izaya> but you lose 25-50% engine power with shaft drive, depending on configuration
L1050[19:26:25] <AdorableCatgirl> yeah
L1051[19:26:31] <Z0idburg> That's not necessarily true
L1052[19:26:40] <Z0idburg> well depending on configuration sure
L1053[19:26:51] <Izaya> you're rotating 90* either once or twice
L1054[19:27:01] <Z0idburg> I mean you don't have a differential on a bike so
L1055[19:27:01] <AdorableCatgirl> the MD04ABA series drives
L1056[19:27:01] <Izaya> so either ~25% or ~50%
L1057[19:27:23] <Z0idburg> on a car the differential will increase torque by a shitton
L1058[19:27:27] <Izaya> AdorableCatgirl: see drive days and drive count
L1059[19:27:35] <AdorableCatgirl> fair
L1060[19:27:43] <Izaya> too small a sample
L1061[19:27:55] <AdorableCatgirl> forgot about that
L1062[19:27:59] <AdorableCatgirl> yeah
L1063[19:28:06] <Z0idburg> my Jeep Liberty has a great diff ratio, and thats how I have an SUV trhat has a 5000 lb towing capacity, which is most than most modern pickup trucks
L1064[19:28:24] <AdorableCatgirl> buT DAMN THAT 14TB BEAST
L1065[19:28:30] <The_Stargazer> there's https://nz.pcpartpicker.com/product/V3mxFT/a-data-ultimate-su800-512gb-25-solid-state-drive-asu800ss-512gt-c - is this a good drive or nah
L1066[19:28:39] <The_Stargazer> it's an ssd
L1067[19:28:45] <Izaya> 1986 toyota hilux: can't do over 80km/h, but also will do 80km/h towing fucking anything, over any terrain
L1068[19:29:42] <AdorableCatgirl> wtf is that brand
L1069[19:30:03] <Izaya> fairly popular chink clone brand
L1070[19:30:29] <The_Stargazer> is the video card at least alright
L1071[19:30:33] <Izaya> too expensive
L1072[19:30:39] <The_Stargazer> what should I go for
L1073[19:30:43] <Izaya> an RX580
L1074[19:30:45] <Izaya> for $200
L1075[19:30:51] <The_Stargazer> where from
L1076[19:31:06] <Izaya> iunno if you're not willing to buy from china keep an eye out for local stores
L1077[19:31:16] <The_Stargazer> yeah i dont trust shady chinese stores
L1078[19:31:25] <Izaya> you sound like a boomer
L1079[19:31:27] <Izaya> anyway
L1080[19:31:30] <The_Stargazer> a what
L1081[19:31:32] <Izaya> I got mine from MSY, which is relatively local (120km) for $202
L1082[19:31:45] <AdorableCatgirl> a B O O M E R
L1083[19:32:02] <The_Stargazer> all I really need is for the card to have like 4GB VRAM and comparable to a GTX 960
L1084[19:32:08] <The_Stargazer> so I can play my nep games
L1085[19:32:19] <Izaya> right so get an RX 580 for $200
L1086[19:32:20] <AdorableCatgirl> you can't call yourself a baby boomer unless you've set off high explosives inside an infant
L1087[19:32:51] <Izaya> stolen
L1088[19:33:04] <Izaya> https://social.shadowkat.net/notice/9laoA50GiP9RuX9Gym
L1089[19:33:16] <AdorableCatgirl> yeah
L1090[19:34:19] <The_Stargazer> theres this https://nz.pcpartpicker.com/product/GLTrxr/sapphire-radeon-rx-550-4gb-pulse-video-card-11268-01-20g
L1091[19:34:19] <The_Stargazer> should I 100% go for an RX 580
L1092[19:34:29] <AdorableCatgirl> anyways
L1093[19:34:40] <AdorableCatgirl> does anyone here have touhou 15.5
L1094[19:34:41] <Izaya> >$200
L1095[19:34:47] <Izaya> just get an 8GB RX 580 for that price
L1096[19:35:00] <Izaya> they're only getting older
L1097[19:35:37] <The_Stargazer> according to pricespy the cheapest one is $332
L1098[19:35:49] <Izaya> dk what that is but like
L1099[19:35:51] <Izaya> just wait for a sale
L1100[19:35:57] <The_Stargazer> price compare site
L1101[19:36:02] <The_Stargazer> i cba to wait
L1102[19:36:06] <The_Stargazer> im crap at sales
L1103[19:36:16] <Izaya> so get a worse deal
L1104[19:37:42] <The_Stargazer> is $366 for a video card 100% too much
L1105[19:38:56] <The_Stargazer> also: should I just go with the stock CPU cooler
L1106[19:39:18] <Izaya> on an FX series chip? fuck no
L1107[19:39:37] <Izaya> if you were going for a similarly priced R3 though sure
L1108[19:39:59] <The_Stargazer> what AMD CPU should I go for then?
L1109[19:40:15] <Izaya> probably some sort of ryzen 3
L1110[19:40:24] <Izaya> they have a competent GPU included so you can wait for a sale
L1111[19:40:42] <The_Stargazer> is the iGPU comparable to a GTX 960?
L1112[19:40:44] <Izaya> AM4 so you'll be able to upgrade to at least 3rd gen ryzen in the future without swapping out board/memory
L1113[19:41:14] <AdorableCatgirl> Ryzen 3 w/ integrated GPU would be good
L1114[19:41:48] <The_Stargazer> comparable to GTX 960?
L1115[19:41:53] <AdorableCatgirl> i should finish Tsuki and make a "mainframe"
L1116[19:41:54] <The_Stargazer> how much integrated VRAM
L1117[19:42:00] <The_Stargazer> (not shared)
L1118[19:42:02] <Izaya> 0
L1119[19:42:06] <Izaya> not gonna lie to you, the 960 is about twice as fast as the Vega 11
L1120[19:42:17] <Izaya> in the Ryzen 3 2400
L1121[19:42:50] <Izaya> or is it in the R5 something
L1122[19:42:52] <Izaya> anyway
L1123[19:43:49] <Izaya> yeah, it's not as good as most dGPUs, but it's exceedingly competent for integrated graphics
L1124[19:43:58] <Izaya> and will tide you over till you can get a $200 RX 580
L1125[19:44:09] <The_Stargazer> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/ebirawiyov
L1126[19:44:09] <The_Stargazer> ^ this is what I need
L1127[19:44:25] <The_Stargazer> oops, forgot pixel/vertex shader
L1128[19:44:25] <The_Stargazer> both have to be 5.1
L1129[19:44:48] <Izaya> I take it this is recommended?
L1130[19:44:56] <The_Stargazer> yes
L1131[19:44:58] <Izaya> hence >Windows 10 rather than Windows 7/8/10
L1132[19:45:14] <Izaya> oh yeah downside of the newer AM4 stuff is that Windows 7 is ... impractical on it.
L1133[19:45:29] <The_Stargazer> that's the recommended requirements for Megadimension Neptunia VII
L1134[19:45:45] <Izaya> so play it on lower till you get an RX 580
L1135[19:45:49] <The_Stargazer> i'll probably be playing that, the Neptunia Re;Birth series, and Minecraft
L1136[19:47:08] <Izaya> also >worse console wars with mediocre-tier waifus
L1137[19:48:38] <The_Stargazer> the soundtrack is good though
L1138[19:48:42] <The_Stargazer> and the gameplay is also good
L1139[19:49:04] <The_Stargazer> combat in mdnvii for me is mostly HIT THE I KEY AS MANY TIMES AS YOU CAN
L1140[19:49:16] <The_Stargazer> (uppercase i, not lowercase L)
L1141[19:49:18] <Izaya> minecraft-tier combat
L1142[19:49:25] <The_Stargazer> yes, pretty much
L1143[19:49:26] <Izaya> that was obvious
L1144[19:49:36] <The_Stargazer> but there's the exe drives so
L1145[19:49:36] <Izaya> given I is I and l is l
L1146[19:49:58] <The_Stargazer> i see no difference
L1147[19:49:59] <Izaya> consider changing to a font that displays latin characters correctly
L1148[19:50:11] <The_Stargazer> can you change discords font?
L1149[19:50:14] <Izaya> any font worth its disk space will differentiate between I and l
L1150[19:50:33] <Izaya> https://imgur.com/t7Xpofh.png
L1151[19:50:44] <Izaya> if you can't, have you considered using a different client?
L1152[19:50:46] <Izaya> oh wait
L1153[19:50:48] * Izaya smugs
L1154[19:51:10] <The_Stargazer> i have hexchat installed but i cba to use irc
L1155[19:52:31] <Izaya> imagine having zero control over your communication method
L1156[19:55:43] <The_Stargazer> there's an AMD Ryzen 5 2600
L1157[19:55:44] <The_Stargazer> for $229
L1158[19:55:44] <The_Stargazer> is it good or nah
L1159[19:56:11] <Izaya> don't think it has an iGPU
L1160[19:56:30] <The_Stargazer> ill just go with the expensive RX580
L1161[19:57:15] <Izaya> your loss I guess
L1162[19:57:30] <Izaya> hm, see what a 1700 is worth
L1163[19:57:42] <Izaya> 2600 is only 8% faster overall and the 1700 has two more cores
L1164[19:57:59] <The_Stargazer> no price
L1165[19:58:04] <The_Stargazer> and its not fast enough for nep VII
L1166[19:58:05] <Izaya> so you haven't checked
L1167[19:58:07] <Izaya> okay
L1168[19:58:14] <The_Stargazer> i did check
L1169[19:58:18] <The_Stargazer> 3GHz, no price
L1170[19:58:27] <The_Stargazer> ryzen 7 1700
L1171[19:58:27] <Izaya> so you didn't check
L1172[19:58:29] <Izaya> okay
L1173[19:58:37] <The_Stargazer> ???
L1174[19:58:50] <The_Stargazer> i typed `1700` into the search bar
L1175[19:58:51] <Izaya> checking one place is not checking
L1176[19:58:54] <The_Stargazer> came up with one result
L1177[19:58:55] <The_Stargazer> oh
L1178[19:58:58] <The_Stargazer> right
L1179[19:59:11] <The_Stargazer> thought you meant on pcpartpicker
L1180[19:59:23] <Izaya> huh, MSY isn't selling 1xxx processors any more
L1181[19:59:47] <The_Stargazer> out of stock on pbtech, lemme check other stores
L1182[19:59:55] <Izaya> oooh, 1700 for 145USD
L1183[19:59:57] <Izaya> not bad
L1184[20:00:23] <The_Stargazer> no shops found selling this product
L1185[20:00:27] <The_Stargazer> it appears i cannot get a 1700
L1186[20:00:34] <Izaya> that's a shame
L1187[20:00:38] <Izaya> same performance for cheaper
L1188[20:00:43] <AdorableCatgirl> so
L1189[20:00:47] <The_Stargazer> theres one for US$250
L1190[20:00:47] <AdorableCatgirl> i finally got internet working
L1191[20:00:53] <AdorableCatgirl> like
L1192[20:00:55] <The_Stargazer> but idk what that is in nzd
L1193[20:00:55] <AdorableCatgirl> consistantly
L1194[20:01:01] <AdorableCatgirl> using wpa_supplicant and dhclient
L1195[20:01:06] <AdorableCatgirl> thanks networkmanager
L1196[20:01:10] <The_Stargazer> $381
L1197[20:01:11] <AdorableCatgirl> you heap of ASS
L1198[20:01:34] <The_Stargazer> i have to run `sudo dhclient -v -4` on .bashrc
L1199[20:01:38] <The_Stargazer> on my ubuntu vm
L1200[20:02:16] <Izaya> https://files.catbox.moe/1j47ya.png
L1201[20:02:21] <The_Stargazer> is the ryzen 5 stock cooler good or nah
L1202[20:02:24] <Izaya> presumably used
L1203[20:02:28] <Izaya> yeah they're aight
L1204[20:02:43] <Izaya> not as good as a tower cooler but pretty good for a block of aluminium
L1205[20:02:43] <Kodos> %tonkout
L1206[20:02:44] <MichiBot> Consarn it! Kodos! You beat FeherNeoH's previous record of 2 hours, 21 minutes and 37 seconds (By 1 hour, 55 minutes and 52 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L1207[20:02:45] <The_Stargazer> i dont intend to overclock
L1208[20:02:45] <MichiBot> Kodos has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.004 tonk points! plus 0.003 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 0.91227
L1209[20:02:53] <The_Stargazer> %tonk
L1210[20:02:54] <MichiBot> Waesucks! The_Stargazer! You beat Kodos's previous record of <0 (By 9 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L1211[20:02:54] <Izaya> just remember to clean them
L1212[20:02:55] <MichiBot> The_Stargazer's new record is 9 seconds!
L1213[20:03:06] <The_Stargazer> clean.. them???
L1214[20:03:10] <The_Stargazer> i've never cleaned a cpu cooler
L1215[20:03:11] <Izaya> yes
L1216[20:03:11] <The_Stargazer> ever
L1217[20:03:13] <Izaya> clean the heatsinks
L1218[20:03:19] <Izaya> it helps significantly
L1219[20:03:24] <AdorableCatgirl> how
L1220[20:03:27] <The_Stargazer> ^
L1221[20:03:29] <AdorableCatgirl> how have you never cleaned a CPU cooler
L1222[20:03:35] <Kodos> Clean the dust out?
L1223[20:03:35] <The_Stargazer> uhhhh
L1224[20:03:38] <AdorableCatgirl> it helps a lot
L1225[20:03:41] <AdorableCatgirl> clean and repaste
L1226[20:03:45] <Izaya> I should really do that some time
L1227[20:03:47] <Izaya> the cleaning part
L1228[20:03:49] <The_Stargazer> i never had thermal paste so
L1229[20:03:54] <The_Stargazer> always used prebuilt
L1230[20:03:54] <Izaya> forget where my paste is
L1231[20:04:02] <Kodos> Prebuilt use paste too
L1232[20:04:04] <AdorableCatgirl> i had a fucking cake of dust in my Q6600 build
L1233[20:04:10] <The_Stargazer> yes but to repaste
L1234[20:04:12] <The_Stargazer> you need paste
L1235[20:04:13] <AdorableCatgirl> and was wondering why i was at 95C all the time
L1236[20:04:16] <The_Stargazer> and i didnt have paste
L1237[20:04:40] <Izaya> https://www.banggood.com/-p-959239.html
L1238[20:04:44] <Izaya> do you have like $3
L1239[20:04:59] <The_Stargazer> >banggood
L1240[20:05:09] <AdorableCatgirl> oh yeah
L1241[20:05:12] <AdorableCatgirl> he's a BOOMER
L1242[20:05:27] <AdorableCatgirl> them CHINESE STORES BAD
L1243[20:05:43] <The_Stargazer> :I
L1244[20:05:43] <The_Stargazer> i cant get an AM4 mobo
L1245[20:05:58] <The_Stargazer> maybe because of my case?
L1246[20:06:01] <The_Stargazer> ill remove that and see
L1247[20:06:14] <The_Stargazer> im not really one for flash fancy cases
L1248[20:06:23] <The_Stargazer> i stick my pc under my desk and be done with it
L1249[20:06:28] <Izaya> how big a city are you in
L1250[20:06:55] <The_Stargazer> i'm in a large city
L1251[20:07:05] <Izaya> have a night out on the town
L1252[20:07:07] <Izaya> go dumpster diving
L1253[20:07:13] <Izaya> there's your case
L1254[20:07:18] <The_Stargazer> i have never seen a dumpster
L1255[20:07:28] <Izaya> there's some memory and a processor and motherboard, too
L1256[20:07:37] <Izaya> hit up any highrise or industrial looking buildings
L1257[20:07:54] <Izaya> offices, etc
L1258[20:07:56] <AdorableCatgirl> i live in suburbs
L1259[20:07:59] <AdorableCatgirl> and i can find good shit
L1260[20:08:03] <AdorableCatgirl> dumpster diving
L1261[20:08:09] <AdorableCatgirl> that's how i got my 1TB WD Blue
L1262[20:08:11] <Izaya> living in brisbane was <3
L1263[20:08:25] <AdorableCatgirl> and how i got countless computers
L1264[20:08:29] <Izaya> $3 to get to the CBD, get some food, wait till dark, climb some fences...
L1265[20:08:53] <Izaya> how2build a homelab on a budget of -$40/week
L1266[20:09:30] <Izaya> even picked up a few PowerEdge servers
L1267[20:09:32] <Izaya> good times
L1268[20:09:55] <AdorableCatgirl> i don't even need to climb fences
L1269[20:10:08] <Izaya> I used to hit up big office buildings once a week
L1270[20:10:09] <The_Stargazer> https://nz.pcpartpicker.com/product/43BTwP/gigabyte-b450-aorus-pro-wifi-rev-10-atx-am4-motherboard-b450-aorus-pro-wifi-rev-10 good or nah
L1271[20:10:13] <AdorableCatgirl> i need to do more dumpster diving tbh
L1272[20:10:48] <Izaya> not many PCI-e slots, no PCI slots, but 4 memory slots and 4 SATA, seems aight
L1273[20:10:59] <Izaya> does it suit your needs?
L1274[20:11:16] <Izaya> no M.2 either which is kinda mediocre
L1275[20:11:41] <The_Stargazer> well, should do
L1276[20:11:41] <The_Stargazer> dont need M.2
L1277[20:11:43] <The_Stargazer> or PCI
L1278[20:11:56] <The_Stargazer> only need a single PCI-e x16slot for the GPU
L1279[20:12:02] <AdorableCatgirl> PCI is nice to have sometimes tbh
L1280[20:12:07] <Izaya> tfw still have a running box with ISA
L1281[20:12:12] <AdorableCatgirl> tho you could get an adapter iirc
L1282[20:13:40] <Izaya> I don't have any GPIB gear but when I get some I want something that can use a GPIB interface card
L1283[20:14:25] <The_Stargazer> https://nz.pcpartpicker.com/product/ZHmxFT/fractal-design-focus-g-black-atx-mid-tower-case-fd-ca-focus-bk-w
L1284[20:14:25] <The_Stargazer> good or nah?
L1285[20:14:25] <The_Stargazer> according to reviews it comes with 2x fans
L1286[20:14:51] <Izaya> reputable brand, not too flashy
L1287[20:14:59] <Izaya> not horridly expensive
L1288[20:15:20] <The_Stargazer> im actually not a big fan of flashy cases
L1289[20:15:20] <The_Stargazer> function > form
L1290[20:15:28] <The_Stargazer> if it works, great
L1291[20:15:36] <Izaya> I like ones that don't stand out tbh
L1292[20:15:40] <The_Stargazer> yeah
L1293[20:15:43] <Izaya> got two machines on my desk
L1294[20:15:51] <The_Stargazer> i stick my pc under my desk and be done with it
L1295[20:15:57] <AdorableCatgirl> i like brick shaped cases tbh
L1296[20:16:08] <AdorableCatgirl> S Q U A R E
L1297[20:16:14] <AdorableCatgirl> anyways
L1298[20:16:17] <Izaya> one's an absolute beast of a Core 2 Duo box - Core 2 Duo @ like 2.5Ghz, 12GB of DDR2, an 8800GT, running Haiku, with a windowed case
L1299[20:16:25] <Izaya> my main machine is in an optiplex case
L1300[20:16:30] <AdorableCatgirl> >12GB of DDR2
L1301[20:16:36] <Izaya> triple-channel
L1302[20:16:38] <Izaya> :D
L1303[20:16:40] <AdorableCatgirl> what config?--WOT
L1304[20:16:50] <AdorableCatgirl> what fucking board
L1305[20:17:03] <Izaya> I forget, it's a Gigabyte one
L1306[20:17:04] <The_Stargazer> the more sticks the higher channel right?
L1307[20:17:10] <Izaya> I have the box somewhere here
L1308[20:17:17] <The_Stargazer> so 2x is dual, 3x triple, 4x quad?
L1309[20:17:17] <The_Stargazer> something like that?
L1310[20:17:23] <AdorableCatgirl> i want 12GB of DDR2 w/ a Q6600...unless i can't
L1311[20:17:54] <Izaya> no, DDR works by having 2 DIMMs per channel
L1312[20:17:58] <Izaya> hence it being Double Data Rate
L1313[20:18:05] <The_Stargazer> ahh
L1314[20:18:06] <AdorableCatgirl> Izaya: is max memory dependent on controller or CPU lmao
L1315[20:18:11] <AdorableCatgirl> or both
L1316[20:18:12] <The_Stargazer> THAT's what DDR stands for
L1317[20:18:17] <The_Stargazer> mobo i think
L1318[20:18:29] <Izaya> so 2 sticks is 1 channel, 4 is 2 channels, 6 is 3 channels, 8 is 4, etc.
L1319[20:18:39] <The_Stargazer> ahhh
L1320[20:18:40] <Izaya> bit of both
L1321[20:18:45] <AdorableCatgirl> dam
L1322[20:18:55] <The_Stargazer> https://nz.pcpartpicker.com/list/HPQ9hy
L1323[20:18:55] <The_Stargazer> revised build
L1324[20:18:58] <AdorableCatgirl> i couldn't remember if the Q6600 would actually take 8+GB or not
L1325[20:19:00] <Izaya> I wasn't expecting it to work with a C2D but it did so ???
L1326[20:19:17] <AdorableCatgirl> yea
L1327[20:19:23] <The_Stargazer> yes the PSU is overkill
L1328[20:19:32] <AdorableCatgirl> is it a Yorkfield?
L1329[20:19:34] <The_Stargazer> 550W for a sub-400W build
L1330[20:19:37] <Izaya> wouldn't be so sure
L1331[20:19:38] <AdorableCatgirl> or a Kentsfield?
L1332[20:19:43] <Izaya> what if you throw in a second RX 580 later?
L1333[20:19:50] <The_Stargazer> why would I
L1334[20:19:54] <Izaya> one you get for $200 :^)
L1335[20:20:01] <The_Stargazer> haha
L1336[20:20:03] <Izaya> better performance in any modern games (vulkan ones, that is)
L1337[20:20:06] <AdorableCatgirl> aka 65nm or 45nm
L1338[20:20:09] <The_Stargazer> how hard is crossfire
L1339[20:20:12] <Izaya> I think it's a later one
L1340[20:20:16] <Izaya> you stick two cards in
L1341[20:20:23] <Izaya> the AMD driver sees two cards, one without any displays
L1342[20:20:26] <Izaya> it just werkz
L1343[20:20:29] <The_Stargazer> ok
L1344[20:20:35] <Izaya> not sure what it's like on Windows but probably a mess
L1345[20:20:42] <The_Stargazer> most likely
L1346[20:20:53] <The_Stargazer> and I intend to run windows
L1347[20:20:54] <Izaya> but if you're using windows you're using your computer wrong anyway so whatever
L1348[20:21:07] <The_Stargazer> i like windows and linux
L1349[20:21:24] <The_Stargazer> Message contained 4 or more newlines and was pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/ikerosasit
L1350[20:21:34] <The_Stargazer> yea ik wine is a thing
L1351[20:21:36] <The_Stargazer> (also proton)
L1352[20:21:51] <The_Stargazer> but iirc steam no longer supports ubuntu 18.04
L1353[20:22:06] <Izaya> tfw the only games you can't run are basically ubisoft and EA multiplayer titles
L1354[20:22:10] <Izaya> and nothing of value was lost
L1355[20:23:27] <AdorableCatgirl> ^
L1356[20:23:39] <Izaya> even fuckin GTA V works
L1357[20:23:41] <AdorableCatgirl> also
L1358[20:23:47] <AdorableCatgirl> imagine using ubuntu lmao
L1359[20:25:57] <Izaya> S3: the thing about LAMS is it's a power-to-weight ratio limit rather than a displacement limit, ergo the Ninja 500 isn't allowed, nor the ZZR600, which is a shame because the ZZR600 would be FUN
L1360[20:33:48] <Z0idburg> heh
L1361[20:33:53] <Z0idburg> why not an SF1100
L1362[20:34:56] <Izaya> ?
L1363[20:35:26] <Z0idburg> Street Fighter 1100cc
L1364[20:35:36] <Z0idburg> My friend had one but he sold it
L1365[20:35:43] <Izaya> ducati?
L1366[20:37:28] <Izaya> european motor vehicles are expensive and unreliable
L1367[20:37:30] <Izaya> so
L1368[20:37:32] <Izaya> no thanks
L1369[20:37:38] <Izaya> only thing less reliable is american ones
L1370[20:41:07] <Izaya> >no information online on what pressure the tires on my bike should be
L1371[20:41:08] <Izaya> thank
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L1375[21:53:47] <The_Stargazer> can you remove a specific part of a string?
L1376[21:54:00] <The_Stargazer> (from *x* to *y*)
L1377[21:54:40] <Izaya> there's not a specialised function for it
L1378[21:54:55] <Izaya> but if you know what it is, you can use match, or you can concatenate two :sub strings
L1379[21:56:34] <The_Stargazer> well, currently my blacklist implementation gsub's when you remove a player
L1380[21:56:34] <The_Stargazer> so if you have `TESTPLAYER TESTPLAYER2` only ` 2` is left
L1381[21:56:36] <AdorableCatgirl> i made a godtier smash stage
L1382[21:56:53] <AdorableCatgirl> it's a box of bumpers and a platform in the middle
L1383[21:56:57] <AdorableCatgirl> it's 8 player ready
L1384[21:59:16] <Izaya> divide into words
L1385[21:59:19] <Izaya> remove the word that matches
L1386[21:59:22] <Izaya> combine back into string
L1387[21:59:33] <The_Stargazer> that could work
L1388[22:00:08] <The_Stargazer> but the problem is I don't know how long the string is
L1389[22:00:29] <The_Stargazer> it could be `TESTPLAYER TESTPLAYER1 TESTPLAYER2 SOMERANDO`
L1390[22:00:33] <The_Stargazer> or just `TESTPLAYER`
L1391[22:01:08] <The_Stargazer> i gotta close discord
L1392[22:01:10] <The_Stargazer> too much ram
L1393[22:01:36] <Izaya> ... so? you're looking for spaces
L1394[22:02:02] <Izaya> in your position a few years ago I'd iterate over each character in a string to check if it were a space, now I know you can use gmatch to do the same but faster in native code
L1395[22:57:21] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L1396[22:57:22] <MichiBot> Dad-Sizzle! CompanionCube! You beat The_Stargazer's previous record of 9 seconds (By 2 hours, 54 minutes and 19 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L1397[22:57:23] <MichiBot> CompanionCube's new record is 2 hours, 54 minutes and 28 seconds! CompanionCube also gained 0.00291 tonk points for stealing the tonk.
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