L1[00:04:15] 
<AdorableCatgirl> get more ram lmao
<AdorableCatgirl> get more ram lmaoL2[00:04:28] <AdorableCatgirl> also use linux lmao
<AdorableCatgirl> also use linux lmaoL3[00:06:26] <Izaya> https://assets.amuniversal.com/6b08abb09fbb012f2fe600163e41dd5b
L4[00:10:13] <AdorableCatgirl> kek
<AdorableCatgirl> kekL5[00:10:17] <AdorableCatgirl> nice ememe
<AdorableCatgirl> nice ememeL6[00:10:21] <The_Stargazer> its not my laptop
<The_Stargazer> its not my laptopL7[00:10:30] <The_Stargazer> and theres not enough space
to install linux
<The_Stargazer> and theres not enough space
to install linuxL8[00:10:39] <Izaya> >comics are memes
now
L9[00:10:40] <Izaya> fuckin
L10[00:10:40] <The_Stargazer> id have to wipe the drive
and i cant wipe a drive thats not mine
<The_Stargazer> id have to wipe the drive
and i cant wipe a drive thats not mineL11[00:10:44] <Izaya> ruining the
everything
L12[00:10:54] <The_Stargazer> how is that a meme?
<The_Stargazer> how is that a meme?L13[00:11:03] <Izaya> The_Stargazer: so use
a flash drive to install it onto?
L14[00:11:09] <The_Stargazer> dont have any
<The_Stargazer> dont have anyL15[00:11:15] <The_Stargazer> (spare that is)
<The_Stargazer> (spare that is)L16[00:11:28] *
Izaya gives The_Stargazer $5
L17[00:11:36] <Izaya> Here's a nickel kid,
get yourself some storage.
L18[00:12:16] <The_Stargazer> haha
<The_Stargazer> hahaL19[00:12:16] <The_Stargazer> im gonna buy a cheap hdd on
trademe and install it in my ET1331
<The_Stargazer> im gonna buy a cheap hdd on
trademe and install it in my ET1331L20[00:12:19] <AdorableCatgirl> i say "nice
ememe" to most anything lmao
<AdorableCatgirl> i say "nice
ememe" to most anything lmaoL21[00:12:37] <Izaya> only 6 off
L22[00:12:49] <The_Stargazer> from 1337?
<The_Stargazer> from 1337?L23[00:13:12] <Izaya> as opposed to
1325
L24[00:13:23] <The_Stargazer> haha
<The_Stargazer> hahaL25[00:17:07] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L26[00:17:07] <MichiBot> Gadsbudlikins!
CompanionCube! You beat Kodos's previous record of 1 hour, 35
minutes and 28 seconds (By 30 minutes and 49 seconds)! I hope
you're happy!
L27[00:17:08] <MichiBot> CompanionCube's
new record is 2 hours, 6 minutes and 17 seconds! CompanionCube also
gained 0.00102 (0.00051 x 2) tonk points for stealing the
tonk.
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L29[00:17:16] <AdorableCatgirl> so
L30[00:17:21] <AdorableCatgirl> turns
out
L31[00:17:40] <AdorableCatgirl> stopping
wpa_supplicant doesn't stop the processes
L32[00:17:55] <AdorableCatgirl>
anyways
L33[00:17:59] <AdorableCatgirl> now i have
wifi
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L35[00:44:18] <CompanionCube> %drink
random
L36[00:44:18] <MichiBot> You drink a basic
ocean potion (New!). CompanionCube feels like a champion!
L37[00:45:13] <asie> %drink random
L38[00:45:14] <MichiBot> You drink a smelly
spice potion (New!). After drinking the potion you realize the
bottle has your face on it.
L39[00:46:24] <CompanionCube> %sip
L40[00:46:24] <MichiBot> You drink a sour
coral potion (New!). It tastes bitter.
L41[00:50:00] <Izaya> >Installing the
Firefox web browser proved a bit more difficult. As with most
Linux-based operating systems, Raspbian doesn't just let you
download an app from a store or website. You must compile the
software package yourself using a command-line interface, and
instructions can be sketchy and hard to find, depending on the
program.
L42[00:50:16] <Izaya> PCMag pls I know
you're about IBM PCs but please do your research
L43[00:50:43] <The_Stargazer> >most linux-based
operating systems don't let you download apps from a store or a
website
<The_Stargazer> >most linux-based
operating systems don't let you download apps from a store or a
websiteL44[00:50:46] <The_Stargazer> what is this?
<The_Stargazer> what is this?L45[00:51:32] <The_Stargazer> have .deb (or .rpm) files
poofed out of existence?
<The_Stargazer> have .deb (or .rpm) files
poofed out of existence?L46[00:51:39] <Izaya> evidently
L47[00:52:07] <Izaya> IT GETS BETTER
L48[00:52:27] <Izaya> >Fortunately, I
found the command for installing Firefox after a single Google
search. Once you type the command into the terminal (accessed via
an icon in the task bar) and execute it, the OS does the rest, and
I soon had a Firefox window open and ready to browse.
L49[00:52:35] <Izaya> I imagine that
command was sudo apt-get firefox
L50[00:52:39] <The_Stargazer> yes
<The_Stargazer> yesL51[00:52:46] <Izaya> TIL Debian is
source-based
L52[00:52:53] <The_Stargazer> ?
<The_Stargazer> ?L53[00:53:07] <Izaya> source-based distros
don't provide pre-compiled packages
L54[00:53:14] <The_Stargazer> ah
<The_Stargazer> ahL55[00:53:25] <Izaya> or at least, that's
not the primary method of getting them
L56[00:53:30] <Izaya> see: gentoo, NixOS,
etc
L57[00:53:54] <The_Stargazer> fun drinking game: build a
working LFS system while drunk, and for every failure, take another
shot
<The_Stargazer> fun drinking game: build a
working LFS system while drunk, and for every failure, take another
shotL58[00:55:17] <Izaya> this is how people
die of alcohol poisoning
L59[00:55:59] <Izaya> (would
recommend)
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L61[01:30:54] <Forecaster>
%sip
<Forecaster>
%sipL62[01:30:54] <MichiBot> You drink a sweet
caterium potion (New!). Forecaster suddenly forgets a random piece
of trivia.
L63[01:32:01] <The_Stargazer> `The server has not
responded for -3 seconds! Creating thread dump`
<The_Stargazer> `The server has not
responded for -3 seconds! Creating thread dump`L64[01:32:02] <The_Stargazer> paperspigot are you
alright
<The_Stargazer> paperspigot are you
alrightL65[01:32:02] <CompanionCube> also
L66[01:32:16] <CompanionCube> downloading
random packages from a website
L67[01:32:21] <CompanionCube> is a bad
modle
L68[01:32:32] <CompanionCube> fuck anything
using it
L69[01:32:37] <Izaya> yup
L70[01:32:53] <Izaya> let's download
executable code from some random untrusted person because it's the
only way to get it!
L71[01:32:56] <The_Stargazer> if the packages are signed
with trusted keys do they still count as random?
<The_Stargazer> if the packages are signed
with trusted keys do they still count as random?L72[01:33:10] <The_Stargazer> (something like that)
<The_Stargazer> (something like that)L73[01:33:15] <Izaya> the only keys that
should be trusted are your distro's maintainers
L74[01:33:20] <The_Stargazer> good point
<The_Stargazer> good pointL75[01:33:21] <CompanionCube> Izaya:
eh
L76[01:33:27] <CompanionCube> here's the
thing
L77[01:33:43] <CompanionCube> random
websites don't have any trusted keys
L78[01:33:47] <The_Stargazer> why does my screen keep
flashing black
<The_Stargazer> why does my screen keep
flashing blackL79[01:33:47] <The_Stargazer> is my potato iGPU being
trashed
<The_Stargazer> is my potato iGPU being
trashedL80[01:33:50] <The_Stargazer> er
<The_Stargazer> erL81[01:33:51] <The_Stargazer> thrashed
<The_Stargazer> thrashedL82[01:33:56] <CompanionCube> and you can't
make such a system work
L83[01:35:01] <CompanionCube> (for what
does work, see the few extra arch binary repos that provide their
own keys the user has to trust)
L84[01:35:05] <The_Stargazer> paperclip why are you using
a linux script file on windows
<The_Stargazer> paperclip why are you using
a linux script file on windowsL85[01:35:17] <The_Stargazer> i love how paperclip
automatically assumes linux
<The_Stargazer> i love how paperclip
automatically assumes linuxL86[01:35:30] <The_Stargazer> because every minecraft
server runs linux, yep
<The_Stargazer> because every minecraft
server runs linux, yepL87[01:35:30] <Izaya> paperclip?
L88[01:35:36] <Izaya> every worthwhile
one
L89[01:35:36] <The_Stargazer> paperspigot aio
<The_Stargazer> paperspigot aioL90[01:35:58] <The_Stargazer> surely there's a config
option to use a batch file
<The_Stargazer> surely there's a config
option to use a batch fileL91[01:36:01] <The_Stargazer> and not a shell
script
<The_Stargazer> and not a shell
scriptL92[01:36:21] <CompanionCube> that would
involve them bothering to write support
L93[01:36:34] <CompanionCube> and since
batch is a terrible language...
L94[01:36:54] <The_Stargazer> shouldn't it be as easy as
"run this file"
<The_Stargazer> shouldn't it be as easy as
"run this file"L95[01:36:59] <The_Stargazer> that's what it does for the
start.sh file
<The_Stargazer> that's what it does for the
start.sh fileL96[01:37:04] <The_Stargazer> it just opens it via the
normal methods
<The_Stargazer> it just opens it via the
normal methodsL97[01:37:11] <The_Stargazer> windows asks me "how
to open this"
<The_Stargazer> windows asks me "how
to open this"L98[01:38:12] <Z0idburg>
almost lunch break
<Z0idburg>
almost lunch breakL99[01:38:15] <Z0idburg>
aka almost nap time
<Z0idburg>
aka almost nap timeL100[01:38:30] <Izaya> that sounds like a
solid idea atm
L101[01:38:42] <Izaya> ended up going
through the twisties with someone on an R6
L102[01:38:44] <Izaya> was a good
time
L103[01:38:44] <Z0idburg>
45 minute nap or so
<Z0idburg>
45 minute nap or soL104[01:39:00] <Z0idburg>
you know
<Z0idburg>
you knowL105[01:39:08] <Z0idburg> I
do that with my Jeep and it squeels
<Z0idburg> I
do that with my Jeep and it squeelsL106[01:39:17] <Z0idburg>
because the turn radius is wide
<Z0idburg>
because the turn radius is wideL107[01:39:18] <Z0idburg>
?
<Z0idburg>
?L108[01:39:30] <Z0idburg>
never take it on lombard street
<Z0idburg>
never take it on lombard streetL109[01:39:32] <Izaya> tfw sub-2m turning
circle
L110[01:39:33] <Z0idburg>
it would never make it
<Z0idburg>
it would never make itL111[01:40:09] <Izaya> nah man if you're
not hitting the twisties at 20km/h over the speed limit what are
you doing with your saturday
L112[01:40:19] <Z0idburg>
lol
<Z0idburg>
lolL113[01:40:27] <Z0idburg>
20km/h over ? lets see
<Z0idburg>
20km/h over ? lets seeL114[01:40:29] <Izaya> cliff on one side,
cliff face on the other, 90* turn ahead
L115[01:40:41] <Z0idburg>
wait what
<Z0idburg>
wait whatL116[01:40:48] <Z0idburg>
that's only 12 mph over dude
<Z0idburg>
that's only 12 mph over dudeL117[01:40:52] <Z0idburg>
that's not speeding at all
<Z0idburg>
that's not speeding at allL118[01:41:00] <Izaya> >imagine using
fake units
L119[01:41:06] <Z0idburg>
lol
<Z0idburg>
lolL120[01:41:12] <Izaya> also
L121[01:41:15] <Izaya> I kinda agree
L122[01:41:25] <Izaya> speed limits here
are 10 under what anyone does
L123[01:41:37] <Izaya> 50 zone? everyone's
doing 60km/h
L124[01:41:45] <Izaya> 80 zone? everyone's
doing at least 90, usually 100
L125[01:41:54] <Izaya> but of course
L126[01:41:57] <Izaya> cars slow down in
corners
L127[01:42:00] <Izaya> which makes me want
to die
L128[01:42:06] <Z0idburg>
here in Maine once you get north of old town which is not far from
Bangor (center of the state) the speed liomit goes to 75 mph120
km/h
<Z0idburg>
here in Maine once you get north of old town which is not far from
Bangor (center of the state) the speed liomit goes to 75 mph120
km/hL129[01:42:34] <Z0idburg>
so you can literally go 90 mph or 144 km/h without losing your
license
<Z0idburg>
so you can literally go 90 mph or 144 km/h without losing your
licenseL130[01:42:37] <Izaya> there's one place
in aus with a speed limit over 110km/h
L131[01:42:52] <Izaya> it's a straight bit
of highway in a large cutting through a mountain with no on or off
ramps
L132[01:43:59] <Z0idburg>
out here
<Z0idburg>
out hereL133[01:44:02] <Izaya> there's a mostly straight
highway out west where the speed limit is 100 but everyone does
150, good times
L134[01:44:03] <Z0idburg>
https://www.google.com/maps/@45.5679033,-68.5444437,3a,75y,353.41h,74.57t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1summR5zERwdiZWHAIYiYQ9A!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DummR5zERwdiZWHAIYiYQ9A%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D313.83173%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656
<Z0idburg>
https://www.google.com/maps/@45.5679033,-68.5444437,3a,75y,353.41h,74.57t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1summR5zERwdiZWHAIYiYQ9A!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DummR5zERwdiZWHAIYiYQ9A%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D313.83173%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656L135[01:44:19] <Izaya> how boring a
road
L136[01:44:28] <Z0idburg>
it is pretty boring
<Z0idburg>
it is pretty boringL137[01:44:30] <Z0idburg>
lets see
<Z0idburg>
lets seeL138[01:45:13] <Z0idburg>
it's a highway with no exits for 64 miles (102 km)
<Z0idburg>
it's a highway with no exits for 64 miles (102 km)L139[01:45:21] <Z0idburg>
hour of driving with nothing but road no stops
<Z0idburg>
hour of driving with nothing but road no stopsL140[01:45:29] <Z0idburg>
and trees
<Z0idburg>
and treesL141[01:45:49] <Z0idburg>
at 120km/h of course
<Z0idburg>
at 120km/h of courseL142[01:47:33] <Izaya> https://www.google.com/maps/@-28.8140036,153.4764677,3a,75y,38.67h,90t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sx0GRWccsMVyyO5DB6-7KWg!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3Dx0GRWccsMVyyO5DB6-7KWg%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D58.50989%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i3328!8i1664
L143[01:48:32] <The_Stargazer> Aha!
<The_Stargazer> Aha!L144[01:48:33] <The_Stargazer> you CAN tell Spigot / Paper
to use a batch file
<The_Stargazer> you CAN tell Spigot / Paper
to use a batch fileL145[01:48:39] <Z0idburg> I
drive on this road quite a bit
<Z0idburg> I
drive on this road quite a bitL148[01:49:08] <Z0idburg>
it's a shortcut
<Z0idburg>
it's a shortcutL149[01:49:27] <Izaya> from the first
picture I was wondering if it were just a track through someone's
property
L150[01:49:40] <Z0idburg>
that's just a narrow part
<Z0idburg>
that's just a narrow partL151[01:49:47] <Z0idburg>
there's parts of it where it's very wide
<Z0idburg>
there's parts of it where it's very wideL152[01:49:54] ⇦
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L153[01:50:14] <Z0idburg>
theres no google maps for it
<Z0idburg>
theres no google maps for itL154[01:50:51] <Z0idburg>
it's called Winkumpaugh
<Z0idburg>
it's called WinkumpaughL155[01:51:50] <Z0idburg>
it's paved for a little while then becomes dirt and crosses with
happytown
<Z0idburg>
it's paved for a little while then becomes dirt and crosses with
happytownL156[01:52:16] <The_Stargazer> Message contained 4 or more
newlines and was pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/omayazomom
<The_Stargazer> Message contained 4 or more
newlines and was pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/omayazomomL158[01:52:28] <Z0idburg> ^
Happytown road
<Z0idburg> ^
Happytown roadL159[01:53:00] <Z0idburg>
some of it is paved but much of all of these are dirt
<Z0idburg>
some of it is paved but much of all of these are dirtL160[01:53:07] <Z0idburg>
even parts of winkumpaugh are paved
<Z0idburg>
even parts of winkumpaugh are pavedL161[01:53:37] <Z0idburg>
whatr you need to see Izaya is this:
<Z0idburg>
whatr you need to see Izaya is this:L163[01:53:54] <Izaya> it's a meese
L164[01:53:59] <Z0idburg>
yes it is
<Z0idburg>
yes it isL165[01:54:14] <Z0idburg>
and you don't want to mess with it
<Z0idburg>
and you don't want to mess with itL166[01:54:17] <Z0idburg>
LOL
<Z0idburg>
LOLL167[01:54:32] <Z0idburg>
That's the studmill road north of where I grew up by a few
miles
<Z0idburg>
That's the studmill road north of where I grew up by a few
milesL168[01:54:49] <Z0idburg>
it's like 90 miles of dirt
<Z0idburg>
it's like 90 miles of dirtL169[01:54:51] <The_Stargazer> is there a string function
that succeeds only if the exact word is present?
<The_Stargazer> is there a string function
that succeeds only if the exact word is present?L170[01:54:51] <The_Stargazer> for example: string
`HELLO`, don't match `HEL`
<The_Stargazer> for example: string
`HELLO`, don't match `HEL`L171[01:55:18] <Z0idburg>
stargazer, I think I may possibly have your answer lets see
<Z0idburg>
stargazer, I think I may possibly have your answer lets seeL172[01:55:56] <Z0idburg>
there's this chunk of code in Trotwood that looks like this:
<Z0idburg>
there's this chunk of code in Trotwood that looks like this:L174[01:56:03] <Z0idburg>
any of that seem useful?
<Z0idburg>
any of that seem useful?L175[01:56:07] <The_Stargazer> hmm
<The_Stargazer> hmmL176[01:56:15] <The_Stargazer> no idea
<The_Stargazer> no ideaL177[01:56:17] <Z0idburg>
obviously not exactly the same ting
<Z0idburg>
obviously not exactly the same tingL178[01:56:25] <Z0idburg>
its how Trotwood does OS detection
<Z0idburg>
its how Trotwood does OS detectionL179[01:56:26] <Izaya> https://www.google.com/maps/@-28.5943024,153.0717614,3a,75y,307.38h,83.18t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1soDBwEXsHxEKD-If48WHGJQ!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DoDBwEXsHxEKD-If48WHGJQ%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D340%26pitch%3D-10%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656
L180[01:56:31] <Z0idburg>
well platform detection
<Z0idburg>
well platform detectionL181[01:56:32] <Izaya> ^ one of my
favourite routes, kyogle to uki
L182[01:56:47] <Z0idburg>
OMG
<Z0idburg>
OMGL183[01:56:50] <The_Stargazer> my current system doesn't
error nicely if you type in a username that a) doesn't exist but b)
is part of a username that DOES exist in the database
<The_Stargazer> my current system doesn't
error nicely if you type in a username that a) doesn't exist but b)
is part of a username that DOES exist in the databaseL184[01:56:50] <Z0idburg>
this lookss dangerous af
<Z0idburg>
this lookss dangerous afL185[01:56:56] <Izaya> it is! :D
L186[01:57:05] <Z0idburg>
I'm not thinking about it in that state
<Z0idburg>
I'm not thinking about it in that stateL187[01:57:17] <Z0idburg> I
am thinking of it like a Maine road in winter when the road is a
river of solid ice
<Z0idburg> I
am thinking of it like a Maine road in winter when the road is a
river of solid iceL188[01:57:19] <The_Stargazer> also: is it possible to do
a case-insensitive match?
<The_Stargazer> also: is it possible to do
a case-insensitive match?L189[01:57:30] <Izaya> it's dangerous
enough as is, without snow
L190[01:57:30] <The_Stargazer> like, string `HELLO`, match
`hello`
<The_Stargazer> like, string `HELLO`, match
`hello`L191[01:57:32] <Izaya> fuckin cagers
L192[01:57:40] <Izaya> this corner is fun
https://www.google.com/maps/@-28.5948742,153.0741551,3a,75y,117.39h,77.05t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbhzZ59aYU32rw4M8mNijJg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
L193[01:57:41] <Z0idburg>
that place get snow at all?
<Z0idburg>
that place get snow at all?L194[01:57:43]
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L195[01:57:59] <The_Stargazer> `/card PRISMATICYT`: no
data
<The_Stargazer> `/card PRISMATICYT`: no
dataL196[01:57:59] <The_Stargazer> `/card PrismaticYT`: bunch
of data
<The_Stargazer> `/card PrismaticYT`: bunch
of dataL197[01:58:37] <Z0idburg>
heh
<Z0idburg>
hehL198[01:58:37] <The_Stargazer> case-sensitivity isn't
really needed to match a username because iirc usernames are
case-insensitive
<The_Stargazer> case-sensitivity isn't
really needed to match a username because iirc usernames are
case-insensitiveL199[01:58:43] <Z0idburg>
this is interesting
<Z0idburg>
this is interestingL200[01:58:45] <Izaya> oh hey I have a
photo from here :D https://www.google.com/maps/@-28.5183474,153.1587427,3a,75y,54.06h,94.62t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s6zl4ha76ZGzG93xo4jMTgw!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3D6zl4ha76ZGzG93xo4jMTgw%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D320%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656
L201[01:58:50] <Z0idburg>
so its wrapping around the hill and winds down
<Z0idburg>
so its wrapping around the hill and winds downL202[01:58:56] <The_Stargazer> like you can't have both
`SOMEUSERNAME` and `someusername` iirc
<The_Stargazer> like you can't have both
`SOMEUSERNAME` and `someusername` iircL203[01:58:58] <Z0idburg>
unlike what we do here where we just cut through the hill
itself
<Z0idburg>
unlike what we do here where we just cut through the hill
itselfL204[01:59:26] <Izaya> https://nextcloud.shadowkat.net/s/6W2zTBsXfM9k7Sw
L205[01:59:49] <Izaya> better spot:
https://www.google.com/maps/@-28.5184015,153.1588561,3a,75y,40.54h,79.49t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sKxvVPhONnAVz8zgEcBYhlQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
L206[01:59:53] <Z0idburg>
which is how we get stuff like this:
<Z0idburg>
which is how we get stuff like this:L207[01:59:55] <Z0idburg>
https://www.google.com/maps/@44.5599729,-68.8072271,3a,75y,332.64h,96.96t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1scU1vV_6Y6hderJ5qvhzKQA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DcU1vV_6Y6hderJ5qvhzKQA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D134.04327%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656
<Z0idburg>
https://www.google.com/maps/@44.5599729,-68.8072271,3a,75y,332.64h,96.96t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1scU1vV_6Y6hderJ5qvhzKQA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DcU1vV_6Y6hderJ5qvhzKQA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D134.04327%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656L208[01:59:59] <Z0idburg>
that's not natural, it was cut
<Z0idburg>
that's not natural, it was cutL209[02:00:07] <Z0idburg>
or blasted
<Z0idburg>
or blastedL210[02:00:08] ⇦
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L211[02:00:17] <Izaya> I mean, it's neat,
but why not just go round?
L212[02:00:30] <Z0idburg>
because that would be horrible
<Z0idburg>
because that would be horribleL213[02:00:46] <Izaya> why doesn't google
maps have a fuckin topo mode?
L214[02:00:48] <Z0idburg>
the incline / declines are uneven enough
<Z0idburg>
the incline / declines are uneven enoughL215[02:00:53] <Z0idburg>
you'd never have anythng level enough
<Z0idburg>
you'd never have anythng level enoughL216[02:00:57] <Z0idburg>
Yeah I dunno
<Z0idburg>
Yeah I dunnoL217[02:01:21] <The_Stargazer> ah, a quick google reveals
that something like `"%f[%w_]" .. word ..
"%f[^%w_]"` may be helpful
<The_Stargazer> ah, a quick google reveals
that something like `"%f[%w_]" .. word ..
"%f[^%w_]"` may be helpfulL218[02:01:25] <Izaya> >Waldo, Maine,
USA
L219[02:01:26] <Izaya> neat
L220[02:01:31] <Izaya> found Waldo
L221[02:01:34] <The_Stargazer> as iirc there's no lua
equivalent of `\b`
<The_Stargazer> as iirc there's no lua
equivalent of `\b`L222[02:02:01] <Z0idburg>
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Brewer,+ME/@44.5505562,-68.81138,14.27z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x4cae4cee9f8cb53b:0x97e2be8b82dcbedb!8m2!3d44.7967378!4d-68.7614246!5m1!1e4
<Z0idburg>
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Brewer,+ME/@44.5505562,-68.81138,14.27z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x4cae4cee9f8cb53b:0x97e2be8b82dcbedb!8m2!3d44.7967378!4d-68.7614246!5m1!1e4L223[02:02:03] <Z0idburg>
there you go
<Z0idburg>
there you goL224[02:02:09] <Z0idburg>
oh you found mount waldo?
<Z0idburg>
oh you found mount waldo?L225[02:02:26] <Izaya> hm yeah that spot
is obnoxious
L226[02:02:29] <Z0idburg>
I've been up it, ythere's a quarry on top with an artificial lake
that is crystal clear
<Z0idburg>
I've been up it, ythere's a quarry on top with an artificial lake
that is crystal clearL227[02:02:38] <Izaya> if it were in aus
it woulda just had a lower speed limit over the bridge and had a
sharper corner
L228[02:02:46] <Z0idburg>
heh
<Z0idburg>
hehL229[02:03:13] <Izaya> like this: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/-28.97877/153.28871
L230[02:03:18] <The_Stargazer> nope, that won't work
<The_Stargazer> nope, that won't workL231[02:03:19] <The_Stargazer>
`java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException: -1`
<The_Stargazer>
`java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException: -1`L232[02:03:49] <Z0idburg>
so if you ever wondered why people say it takes forever to get out
of new england
<Z0idburg>
so if you ever wondered why people say it takes forever to get out
of new englandL233[02:03:52] <Z0idburg>
especially from maine
<Z0idburg>
especially from maineL234[02:03:53] <Z0idburg>
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Brewer,+ME/@44.551621,-70.8382222,8.92z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x4cae4cee9f8cb53b:0x97e2be8b82dcbedb!8m2!3d44.7967378!4d-68.7614246!5m1!1e4
<Z0idburg>
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Brewer,+ME/@44.551621,-70.8382222,8.92z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x4cae4cee9f8cb53b:0x97e2be8b82dcbedb!8m2!3d44.7967378!4d-68.7614246!5m1!1e4L235[02:03:57] <Z0idburg>
here's basically why
<Z0idburg>
here's basically whyL236[02:04:29] <Z0idburg>
the white mountains and the appalacian mountain ending is in the
way
<Z0idburg>
the white mountains and the appalacian mountain ending is in the
wayL237[02:04:29] <Izaya> Brewer?
L238[02:04:36] <Izaya> oh
L239[02:05:02] <Z0idburg>
whatd I do give you the wrong map
<Z0idburg>
whatd I do give you the wrong mapL240[02:05:22] <Z0idburg>
no just zoom in from the link
<Z0idburg>
no just zoom in from the linkL241[02:05:38] <Z0idburg>
straight
<Z0idburg>
straightL242[02:05:48] <Z0idburg>
so to get throgh NH its all mountains
<Z0idburg>
so to get throgh NH its all mountainsL243[02:05:53] <Z0idburg>
then in VT its mountains
<Z0idburg>
then in VT its mountainsL244[02:06:03] <Z0idburg>
so you either go west or you go all the way aroynd along the
coast
<Z0idburg>
so you either go west or you go all the way aroynd along the
coastL245[02:06:17] <Z0idburg>
and if you notice Maine only has one actual highway
<Z0idburg>
and if you notice Maine only has one actual highwayL246[02:06:29] <Z0idburg>
there's like two sub highways that are pretty much the same
thing
<Z0idburg>
there's like two sub highways that are pretty much the same
thingL247[02:07:08] <Z0idburg>
have you ever been on a mountain in the middle of a lake
though
<Z0idburg>
have you ever been on a mountain in the middle of a lake
thoughL248[02:07:39] <The_Stargazer> YES I GOT IT TO WORK
<The_Stargazer> YES I GOT IT TO WORKL249[02:07:43] <Izaya> been on a mountain
on an island
L251[02:07:57] <The_Stargazer> ^ this did the trick
<The_Stargazer> ^ this did the trickL252[02:08:17] <Z0idburg>
cool
<Z0idburg>
coolL253[02:08:19] <Izaya> https://files.catbox.moe/5plikn.png
L254[02:09:32] <Z0idburg>
mm
<Z0idburg>
mmL255[02:09:41] <Z0idburg>
https://www.google.com/maps/@45.6951476,-69.7384916,3a,75y,144.72h,81.9t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sAF1QipMj59VC4TlWKJnMaz6nODzmpLDrQS-9Kr4Db_3m!2e10!3e11!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipMj59VC4TlWKJnMaz6nODzmpLDrQS-9Kr4Db_3m%3Dw203-h100-k-no-pi0-ya318.37045-ro-0-fo100!7i8704!8i4352
<Z0idburg>
https://www.google.com/maps/@45.6951476,-69.7384916,3a,75y,144.72h,81.9t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sAF1QipMj59VC4TlWKJnMaz6nODzmpLDrQS-9Kr4Db_3m!2e10!3e11!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipMj59VC4TlWKJnMaz6nODzmpLDrQS-9Kr4Db_3m%3Dw203-h100-k-no-pi0-ya318.37045-ro-0-fo100!7i8704!8i4352L256[02:09:51] <Z0idburg>
this is a mountain just in some random island in the middle of a
lake
<Z0idburg>
this is a mountain just in some random island in the middle of a
lakeL257[02:09:59] <Z0idburg>
the biggest lake in Maine actually, I fished on it once
<Z0idburg>
the biggest lake in Maine actually, I fished on it onceL258[02:10:11] <Izaya> very pretty
view
L259[02:10:41] <Z0idburg>
seems safe right?: https://www.google.com/maps/@45.6997417,-69.7336557,3a,75y,309.85h,66.54t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sAF1QipMovd74wXorfk5wm699tn3Rhf93MIpxjSxxZFFW!2e10!3e11!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipMovd74wXorfk5wm699tn3Rhf93MIpxjSxxZFFW%3Dw203-h100-k-no-pi-3.8159435-ya332.99533-ro-0-fo100!7i8704!8i4352
<Z0idburg>
seems safe right?: https://www.google.com/maps/@45.6997417,-69.7336557,3a,75y,309.85h,66.54t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sAF1QipMovd74wXorfk5wm699tn3Rhf93MIpxjSxxZFFW!2e10!3e11!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipMovd74wXorfk5wm699tn3Rhf93MIpxjSxxZFFW%3Dw203-h100-k-no-pi-3.8159435-ya332.99533-ro-0-fo100!7i8704!8i4352L260[02:11:37] <Izaya> depends what is
safe
L261[02:11:43] <Z0idburg>
lol
<Z0idburg>
lolL262[02:21:31] <Z0idburg> I
need a new tub
<Z0idburg> I
need a new tubL263[02:22:15] <Z0idburg> I
can get one for like $1500
<Z0idburg> I
can get one for like $1500L264[02:22:36] <Z0idburg>
so on the passenger side the steel rusted out on the bottom of the
tub where the feet go
<Z0idburg>
so on the passenger side the steel rusted out on the bottom of the
tub where the feet goL265[02:22:47] <Z0idburg>
and I looked there and the floor rug is all that's covering
it
<Z0idburg>
and I looked there and the floor rug is all that's covering
itL266[02:22:49] <Izaya> > What many fail
to appreciate is the Fast & Furious movies are actually
superhero movies and the characters superpowers are CARS. Once you
realise that, the movies make perfect sense :)
L267[02:23:01] <Z0idburg>
if it werent for teh rug you'd be watching the ground below
you
<Z0idburg>
if it werent for teh rug you'd be watching the ground below
youL268[02:23:16] <Izaya> nice
L269[02:23:19] <Izaya> my favourite
L270[02:23:50] <Z0idburg>
yeah I wanted to weld a temporary plate this week but ran out of
time
<Z0idburg>
yeah I wanted to weld a temporary plate this week but ran out of
timeL271[02:23:58] <Z0idburg> I
could probably throw another mat down
<Z0idburg> I
could probably throw another mat downL272[02:24:07] <Z0idburg>
just to sturdify the feet a bit
<Z0idburg>
just to sturdify the feet a bitL273[02:25:31] <Z0idburg>
http://www.shellvalley.com/index.cfm/page/ptype=product/product_id=368/prd368.htm
<Z0idburg>
http://www.shellvalley.com/index.cfm/page/ptype=product/product_id=368/prd368.htmL274[02:25:34] <Z0idburg>
problem is you pay for shipping
<Z0idburg>
problem is you pay for shippingL275[02:25:54] <Z0idburg>
tghat one is the entire body
<Z0idburg>
tghat one is the entire bodyL276[02:25:57] <Z0idburg>
not just the tub
<Z0idburg>
not just the tubL277[02:26:08] <Z0idburg>
but you'd want the heavy duty one lol
<Z0idburg>
but you'd want the heavy duty one lolL278[02:26:35] <Z0idburg>
so $3,600 for that
<Z0idburg>
so $3,600 for thatL279[02:31:42]
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L283[03:02:39] <Forecaster>
%tonkout
<Forecaster>
%tonkoutL284[03:02:40] <MichiBot> Bejabbers!
Forecaster! You beat CompanionCube's previous record of 2 hours, 6
minutes and 17 seconds (By 39 minutes and 15 seconds)! I hope
you're happy!
L285[03:02:41] <MichiBot> Forecaster has
stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.002 tonk
points! plus 0.001 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to
50% because stealing) Current score: 0.74784
L286[03:04:09] <The_Stargazer> %tonk
<The_Stargazer> %tonkL287[03:04:09] <MichiBot> Consarn it!
The_Stargazer! You beat Forecaster's previous record of <0 (By 1
minute and 29 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L288[03:04:10] <MichiBot> The_Stargazer's
new record is 1 minute and 29 seconds! The_Stargazer also gained
0.00002 tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L289[03:06:59] <asie> %tonk
L290[03:07:00] <MichiBot> Waesucks! asie!
You beat The_Stargazer's previous record of 1 minute and 29 seconds
(By 1 minute and 21 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L291[03:07:01] <MichiBot> asie's new
record is 2 minutes and 50 seconds! asie also gained 0.00002 tonk
points for stealing the tonk.
L292[03:11:32] <The_Stargazer> %tonk
<The_Stargazer> %tonkL293[03:11:33] <MichiBot> Jiminy Cricket!
The_Stargazer! You beat asie's previous record of 2 minutes and 50
seconds (By 1 minute and 42 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L294[03:11:34] <MichiBot> The_Stargazer's
new record is 4 minutes and 33 seconds! The_Stargazer also gained
0.00003 tonk points for stealing the tonk.
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L296[03:29:32] <Izaya> %tell
AdorableCatgirl why doesn't the normal inventory work
L297[03:29:33] <MichiBot> Izaya:
AdorableCatgirl will be notified of this message when next
seen.
L298[03:30:34] <Izaya> %tell
AdorableCatgirl can't make a crafting table because making a
crafting table needs the crafting inventory but that's the one that
doesn't work, nice
L299[03:30:34] <MichiBot> Izaya:
AdorableCatgirl will be notified of this message when next
seen.
L300[03:37:44] <asie> %tonk
L301[03:37:44] <MichiBot> Avada Kedavra!
asie! You beat The_Stargazer's previous record of 4 minutes and 33
seconds (By 21 minutes and 38 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L302[03:37:45] <MichiBot> asie's new
record is 26 minutes and 11 seconds! asie also gained 0.00036 tonk
points for stealing the tonk.
L303[03:57:28] <The_Stargazer> %tonk
<The_Stargazer> %tonkL304[03:57:28] <MichiBot> I'm sorry
The_Stargazer, you were not able to beat asie's record of 26
minutes and 11 seconds this time. 19 minutes and 43 seconds were
wasted! Missed by 6 minutes and 27 seconds!
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L306[04:54:08] <Forecaster>
%tonk
<Forecaster>
%tonkL307[04:54:09] <MichiBot> Goshhawk!
Forecaster! You beat asie's previous record of 26 minutes and 11
seconds (By 30 minutes and 28 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L308[04:54:10] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new
record is 56 minutes and 40 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.00051
tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L309[05:11:01] <kb1000>
waits that
<kb1000>
waits thatL310[05:11:08] <kb1000>
whats that [Edited]
<kb1000>
whats that [Edited]L311[05:11:30] <Forecaster>
what's what
<Forecaster>
what's whatL312[05:13:42] <kb1000>
what that bot is saying
<kb1000>
what that bot is sayingL313[05:13:52] <Lizzy> it's saying
things
L314[05:14:06] <Forecaster>
tonk is a game about timing and opportunity
<Forecaster>
tonk is a game about timing and opportunityL315[05:14:21] <Forecaster>
and getting points that are completely useless
<Forecaster>
and getting points that are completely uselessL316[05:20:15] <Izaya> >can't spend
tonk points
L317[05:20:18] <Izaya> a travesty
L318[05:21:47] <Forecaster>
but that would put value on them
<Forecaster>
but that would put value on themL319[05:21:56] <Izaya> exactly
L320[05:23:01] <Forecaster>
can't have that
<Forecaster>
can't have thatL321[05:23:16] <Izaya> this some sort of
money laundering system or something
L322[05:23:29] <Izaya> can't have people
wanting these useless points
L323[05:23:37] <Izaya> because then they
could cash out that much faster
L324[05:56:16] <Kodos>
%tonk
<Kodos>
%tonkL325[05:56:17] <MichiBot> Voldemort!
Kodos! You beat Forecaster's previous record of 56 minutes and 40
seconds (By 5 minutes and 28 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L326[05:56:18] <MichiBot> Kodos's new
record is 1 hour, 2 minutes and 8 seconds! Kodos also gained
0.00009 tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L327[05:57:52] <Kodos>
Neat, I have a spaceship and a mech now on OND
<Kodos>
Neat, I have a spaceship and a mech now on ONDL328[06:02:06] <Forecaster>
what is that
<Forecaster>
what is thatL329[06:02:50] <Kodos>
Osiris New Dawn
<Kodos>
Osiris New DawnL330[06:05:08] <Forecaster>
ah
<Forecaster>
ahL331[06:08:49] <Kodos> Oh,
I guess I can't build the mech
<Kodos> Oh,
I guess I can't build the mechL332[06:08:59] <Kodos> I
had the materials, clicked build, didn't realize it just says
"Coming soon"
<Kodos> I
had the materials, clicked build, didn't realize it just says
"Coming soon"L333[06:09:16] <Forecaster>
that's kind of misleading
<Forecaster>
that's kind of misleadingL334[06:09:22] <Forecaster>
it's in the screenshots shown on steam
<Forecaster>
it's in the screenshots shown on steamL335[06:11:40] <Lizzy> the last time i
played OND, it seemed more like a tech demo rather than an actual
game
L336[06:11:54] <Lizzy> though that was a
while ago so maybe they've added some more stuff since then
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L338[06:20:18] <Inari> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/301371180584140820/607170405223890945/WSq2USq2Yh4.jpg?width=654&height=676
L339[06:20:48] <AmandaC> Inari this bad
floor can have so many hairballs on it!
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L341[06:22:05] <Inari> Meow?
L342[06:22:40] <Forecaster>
reference to the car salesman meme
<Forecaster>
reference to the car salesman memeL343[06:24:29] <Inari> Oh
L344[06:25:49] <Inari> %pet AmandaC
L345[06:25:49] *
MichiBot brushes AmandaC with imo culture. 3 health
gained!
L346[06:31:34] <Lizzy> %loot
L347[06:31:34] <MichiBot> Lizzy: You get a
loot box! It contains a stationary stick. (100%)
L348[06:33:00] *
AmandaC glares at Inari
L349[06:33:14] <Inari> Meow?
L350[06:33:16] <AmandaC> stationary
stick... a pencil?
L351[06:33:23] <AmandaC> "with imo
culture"
L352[06:38:16] <AmandaC> Inari: halp,, I
woke up with songs from an 80's(?) musical movie stuck in my
head
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L358[06:46:19] <Forecaster>
I think I was thinking more "stationary as in not moving"
when I wrote that
<Forecaster>
I think I was thinking more "stationary as in not moving"
when I wrote thatL359[06:56:27] <AmandaC> so, a stick in
the mud?
L360[06:56:41] <Forecaster>
sure
<Forecaster>
sureL361[06:57:00] <Inari> AmandaC: Did you
have odd dreams of it or something
L362[06:57:21] <Forecaster>
if it says (100%) it means it's a "junk item" by the way,
it's not from the inventory
<Forecaster>
if it says (100%) it means it's a "junk item" by the way,
it's not from the inventoryL363[06:57:25] <AmandaC> Inari: not
really. It was more some weird constant-battle thing
L364[06:58:06] <AmandaC> I kept waking up
and falling back asleep, which always leads to weird repetetive
dreams, in this case it was a bunch of battles with various groups
of people
L365[06:58:22] <Forecaster>
it seems the loot system is only producing those lately, so that
might be broken
<Forecaster>
it seems the loot system is only producing those lately, so that
might be brokenL366[06:58:34] <AmandaC> %blame
@Forecaster
L367[06:58:34] *
MichiBot blames @Forecaster for adding A maid outfit to the
inventory!
L368[06:58:40] <Forecaster>
it might be failing to retrieve anything from the inventory at
all
<Forecaster>
it might be failing to retrieve anything from the inventory at
allL369[06:58:45] <AmandaC> o-oh my
L370[06:58:55] *
AmandaC moves away from corded some
L371[06:59:23] <Forecaster>
pretty sure that's probably inari who deserves the blame for that
one :P
<Forecaster>
pretty sure that's probably inari who deserves the blame for that
one :PL372[06:59:26] <Forecaster>
seems likely
<Forecaster>
seems likelyL373[07:13:44] ⇦
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L374[07:21:35] <Inari> AmandaC: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DUWJcZhXkAAshOn?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
L375[07:21:55] *
AmandaC glares at Inari
L376[07:22:06] <AmandaC> unless you have a
death wish, I recommend not trying to replicate that
L377[07:22:12] <Inari> :<
L378[07:34:34] <Lizzian>
urghhh ffs computer/amd driver
<Lizzian>
urghhh ffs computer/amd driverL379[07:36:06] <SquidDev> %tonk
L380[07:36:06] <MichiBot> Voldemort!
SquidDev! You beat Kodos's previous record of 1 hour, 2 minutes and
8 seconds (By 37 minutes and 40 seconds)! I hope you're
happy!
L381[07:36:07] <MichiBot> SquidDev's new
record is 1 hour, 39 minutes and 49 seconds! SquidDev also gained
0.00126 (0.00063 x 2) tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L382[07:42:14] *
Lizzy sighs
L383[07:42:24] <Lizzy> idk if it's my gpu
fucking up or the driver or both
L384[07:43:39] <Forecaster>
why not woth
<Forecaster>
why not wothL385[07:43:45] <Forecaster>
why not both [Edited]
<Forecaster>
why not both [Edited]L386[07:44:38] *
Lizzy hopes she hasn't lost too much progress
L387[07:46:55] <Lizzy> okay, luckily not
because i was still able to go into the pause menu so mc saved the
chunks
L388[07:47:51] <Izaya> Well
L389[07:47:56] <Izaya> This is
inconvenient.
L390[07:48:28] <Izaya> No Immersive
Engineering, no Better with Mods, and I have myself set up
underground, and can't figure out how to go about generating
power.
L391[07:49:04] <Forecaster>
Jump in place until something happens
<Forecaster>
Jump in place until something happensL392[07:49:14] <Izaya> solid plan
L393[07:52:13] <Izaya> also there is a
cassowary in my secret underground base
L394[07:52:20] <Izaya> investigations as
to how this happened are ongoing
L395[08:00:56] <Skye> Izaya: what
L396[08:01:13] <Izaya> which what
L397[08:06:01] <Skye> Server?
L398[08:07:28] <Izaya> figured I'd get
something going on AdorableCatgirl's server
L399[08:08:30] <Skye> Ah
L400[08:08:53] <Skye> I'm stuck without a
computer that can play MC
L401[08:08:59] <The_Stargazer> rip
<The_Stargazer> ripL402[08:09:16] <Izaya> next you'll say an
X220 can't play Minecraft
L403[08:11:17] <asie> I've literally ran a
modding convention on an X200
L404[08:11:23] <asie> l i t e r a l l
y
L405[08:11:28] <Izaya> guess what I'm
playing on rn
L406[08:11:30] <asie> an X220 can play
Minecraft just fine if you fiddle a bit, I've done it
L407[08:11:39] <Izaya> Skye just refuses
to install a worthwhile OS
L408[08:11:40] <asie> like, the X200's GPU
is an order of magnitude worse
L409[08:11:44] <Skye> Unfortunately I'm
stuck with windows.
L410[08:11:46] <asie> you just gotta use
Linux for Intel GPUs
L411[08:11:53] <asie> new or old
L412[08:11:59] <asie> for OpenGL to work
respectably
L413[08:12:06] <Skye> I would use Linux if
the mouse driver worked.
L414[08:12:09] <Skye> But it didn't.
L415[08:12:11] <Skye> So.
L416[08:12:37] <Izaya> read: I couldn't
configure mouse acceleration
L417[08:12:37] <Skye> (it didn't let me
disable mouse acceleration on the track pad or trackpoint)
L418[08:12:49] <Skye> Izaya: I tried every
command I could find.
L419[08:12:53] <Lizzy> this most recent LP
update is confusing...
L420[08:13:03] <Skye> Half of the
values... were. Not. There.
L421[08:13:10] <Skye> The setting WAS NOT
THERE
L422[08:13:11] <asie> libinput stuff gets
outdated fast
L423[08:13:12] <Izaya> I found two more
accel params for the trackpoint the other day
L424[08:13:14] <Izaya> that was neat
L425[08:13:19] <asie> the lib moves pretty
quickly
L426[08:13:22] <Skye> THE SETTING WAS T
THERE
L427[08:13:28] <asie> the old evdev
drivers should work juts fine AAAAH STO P
CSREAMIGNGNNGNGAAHDAHAH
L428[08:13:30] <asie> AAAAAAAAA
L429[08:13:32] ⇦
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L430[08:13:34] <Skye> AND THE SETTING THAT
WAS THERE DID NOTHING
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L433[08:13:43] <Skye> um
L434[08:13:52] <Izaya> nonetheless
L435[08:13:59] <Skye> I was using
debain
L436[08:14:04] <Izaya> your no minecraft
problem is manufactured
L437[08:14:07] <Skye> Isn't that meant to
be stable
L438[08:14:42] <asie> stable yes
L439[08:14:45] <asie> bending to your
whimsy no
L440[08:14:59] <Izaya> based asie
L441[08:15:01] <Izaya> basie
L442[08:15:22] <asie> stable things don't
tend to have the most recent features
L443[08:15:28] <asie> and recent things
don't tend to have the most stable features
L444[08:15:30] <Skye> I'm lazy, if it's
easier to watch YouTube videos then I will...
L445[08:15:39] <Izaya> also you're literally the only
person I know who has these issues so ???
L446[08:15:40] <asie> read a book
L447[08:15:44] <asie> screw computers, go
on an adventure
L448[08:15:47] <Izaya> ^
L449[08:15:49] <Skye> I forgot my
books
L450[08:15:53] <Skye> Also I'm
sunburnt
L451[08:15:56] <Izaya> I have a great many
books to share
L452[08:16:00] <asie> >sunburnt
L453[08:16:03] <Izaya> like, 50+GB of
them
L454[08:16:06] <asie> oh no, the sun is
roasting people harder than I am
L455[08:16:08] <asie> I HAVE
COMPETITION
L456[08:16:09] <Izaya> how does one get
sunburned in the fucking UK
L457[08:16:45] <Inari> By UV,
usually
L458[08:17:02] <asie> Izaya: here's how
https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aQRL1Vw_460svvp9.webm
L459[08:17:16] <Skye> If I were to try to
get Linux working again, which distribution should I use for
this
L460[08:17:20] <Izaya> this makes sense
carry on
L461[08:17:28] <Inari> Skye: alpine
L462[08:17:29] <asie> Skye: depends
L463[08:17:34] <asie> definitely not
alpine
L464[08:17:41] <Inari> But alpine jus
tworks
L465[08:17:44] <asie> no it doesn't
L466[08:17:48] <Izaya> maybe alpine, but
only if you want a very minimal server
L467[08:17:51] <Skye> Inari: I'm not
making a server
L468[08:17:56] <Forecaster>
everything just works until it doesn't
<Forecaster>
everything just works until it doesn'tL469[08:17:57] <asie> it not only never
"just worked" for me, it's had some very worrying
issues
L470[08:18:18] <asie> i'd recommend arch
before i recommended alpine. if you despise systemd, use void
L471[08:18:29] <Izaya> arch is aight
L472[08:18:34] <Izaya> but I hate myself
at least a bit
L473[08:18:39] <Izaya> so take that with a
grain of salt
L474[08:18:42] <asie> alpine has some cool
usages, like postmarketOS, or docker stuff
L475[08:18:47] <asie> but i don't think
it's really a desktop-grade OS
L476[08:18:51] <Inari> Well
L477[08:18:57] <Inari> I missed the
desktop specification I guess
L478[08:19:06] <asie> so uh Skye how much
suffering do you want with your fries
L479[08:19:12] <asie> the scale is
ubuntu-gentoo
L480[08:19:23] <Izaya> there are worse
things than gentoo
L481[08:19:26] <Inari> Does ubuntu still
have like 10 versions?
L482[08:19:31] <Skye> I need something
with drivers, doesn't require too much configuration to be usable
(I can deal with some text based stuff, but if I need to configure
something in text for it to even boot then nope), and with a way to
let the mouse driver to work.
L483[08:19:33] <asie> generally if someone
wants a Linux that is about as good out of the box as Windows
L484[08:19:36] <asie> but also as easy to
break as Windows
L485[08:19:38] <Inari> kubuntu,xubunutu,
lubuntu, or whatnot
L486[08:19:39] <asie> I just tell them to
install Ubuntu
L487[08:19:51] <asie> Xubuntu, if they're
a bit more tech-savvy and want a lighter setup
L488[08:20:01] <asie> because GNOME is
heaaaaavy
L489[08:20:03] <Izaya> xubuntu with the
compositor turned off is always good
L490[08:20:26] <Izaya> just remember to
install gtk3-nocsd because otherwise GTK3 CSD programs will have a
4000000px black circle around them
L491[08:20:29] <Skye> I'm likely to use
XFCE unless that's the cause of my mouse woes
L492[08:20:40] <asie> nah
L493[08:21:26] <Skye> I need something
that works with WiFi out of the box because where I'm staying
hasn't got wired ehternet
L494[08:21:39] <Skye> (and no signal so I
can't tether with my phone)
L495[08:21:52] <asie> you have an intel
chip, come on
L496[08:22:04] <asie> those are like some
of the most compatible wifi chips you can find
L497[08:22:16] <asie> (if it runs on
OpenBSD out of the box, it's probably hella compatible)
L498[08:22:17] <Izaya> last time I
recommended debian, which is the only distro short of GuixSD that
doesn't include intel drivers
L499[08:22:22] <Skye> Oh yeah I need a
small install image because I'm gonna be using my phone as an
emulated install disk and it hasn't got much room
L500[08:22:27] <Izaya> well, intel
firmware rather
L501[08:22:36] <Skye> And guess what I
installed...................
L502[08:23:01] <Inari> So
L503[08:23:08] <Inari> Which colour of car
scientifically goes fastest
L504[08:23:11] <Izaya> apologies for
having you run into an issue I never considered, but is
nevertheless easily remedied
L505[08:23:19] <Izaya> Inari: whichever
has the lightest and thinnest paint
L506[08:23:35] <Inari> What if it has no
paint
L507[08:23:41] <Izaya> then that one
L508[08:23:56] <Inari> But what about the
colour of the metal
L509[08:24:06] <Skye> The colour of
aluminium
L510[08:24:07] <Izaya> probably aluminium
then
L511[08:24:44] <Skye> Izaya, asie: so any
distro you know that can work for this?
L512[08:24:50] <asie> Skye: yes,
xubuntu
L513[08:24:53] <Izaya> ^
L514[08:25:01] <Izaya> if anyone
recommends manjaro I'll hit them
L515[08:25:01] <Forecaster>
%sip
<Forecaster>
%sipL516[08:25:01] <MichiBot> You drink a
thick chocolate potion (New!). Oh no, Forecaster got a health
potion, there's probably a boss fight coming!
L517[08:25:08] <Izaya> the last thing Skye
needs is less stable arch
L518[08:25:09] <asie> Izaya: hit them with
a .DOC file, so they can't read it?
L519[08:25:20] <Forecaster>
I will recommend manjaro which I've never heard of before
<Forecaster>
I will recommend manjaro which I've never heard of beforeL520[08:25:21] <asie> ... or reply, for
that matter
L521[08:25:31] *
Izaya hits Forecaster with a .DOC file
L522[08:25:36] <Forecaster>
ow
<Forecaster>
owL523[08:25:43] <Skye> And, just a
theoretical, would you help if the mouse driver was still not
working for me.
L524[08:25:45] <asie> Skye: xubuntu, if
you can't fit a 1.5GB ISO on your phone this variant has 750MB and
comes with just Xfce -> https://unit193.net/xubuntu/core/
L525[08:25:49] <asie> you can install the
extra software later
L526[08:25:49] <Izaya> (a physical
file)
L527[08:26:07] <asie> i'd tell you to use
the network installer but unless you have Ethernet handy that
usually goes wrong
L528[08:26:25] <asie> %sip
L529[08:26:25] <MichiBot> You drink a
smelly octiron potion (New!). The potion bottle insults asie's
haircut.
L530[08:26:50] <Skye> asie: I have no
ethernet or mobile data here
L531[08:26:54] <Skye> Only WiFi
L532[08:26:58] <asie> Skye: read what i
said again
L533[08:27:08] <AmandaC> Use your phone as
a wifi dongle
L534[08:27:21] <AmandaC> USB teathering +
phone connected to Wifi
L535[08:27:28] <asie> not all USB
tetherings play well with Linux
L536[08:27:34] <asie> Huawei hacked their
one up so hard it doesn't work right lol
L537[08:28:03] <Skye> Also uh
L538[08:28:08] <asie> another
excuse?
L539[08:28:38] <Skye> I tend not to use my
laptop for about half a year each time... Upgrading is gonna be
painful
L540[08:28:49] <asie> sure, Ubuntu
releases a big upgrade only twice a eyar
L541[08:28:58] <asie> the rest is small
updates which shouldn't wreck your system
L542[08:29:06] <asie> it's not rolling
release, so unlike Arch
L543[08:29:30] <asie> if you're really
scared you could use an LTS version, which is supported for years
and comes out once every two years, but you'll then complain about
missing features so i can't recommend
L544[08:29:48] <Izaya> it's gonna be more
stable and less work to update than windows, that's for sure
L545[08:29:58] <Lizzy> i've heard Manjaro
is kinda nice
L546[08:30:10] *
asie hits Lizzy with a .ODT file
L547[08:30:17] <Izaya> you do break your
system once a week by installing Windows updates, right?
L548[08:30:20] <asie> Izaya: once a
month
L549[08:30:24] <asie> but correct
otherwise
L550[08:30:25] *
Lizzy isn't sure how to process this file
L551[08:30:35] <asie> whatever you do,
don't use FreeOffice
L552[08:30:38] <Skye> Izaya: windows
updates rarely break it... Upgrades on the other hand...
L553[08:30:41] <asie> unless you can
afford the paid version
L554[08:30:51] <Izaya>
>FreeOffice
L555[08:30:53] <Izaya> >Paid
L556[08:30:55] <Izaya> ???
L557[08:31:11] <The_Stargazer> Blurring the line between
'free' and 'paid' here
<The_Stargazer> Blurring the line between
'free' and 'paid' hereL558[08:31:21] *
Lizzy thinks she has LibreOffice installed on her machine right
now
L559[08:31:28] <Lizzy> yep, i have
libre
L560[08:31:30] <asie> Izaya: FreeOffice,
not LibreOffice
L561[08:31:42] <Lizzy> i don't use it all
that much though
L562[08:31:42] <asie> the free version of
SoftMaker Office
L563[08:31:47] <Izaya> can I build the
paid version from source?
L564[08:31:50] <asie> what source?
L565[08:32:03] <AmandaC> free as in beer,
not source
L566[08:32:08] <AmandaC> or whatever that
analogy is
L567[08:32:12] <Skye> asie: that's the
dilemma, though, LTS means less time between updates, but means I'm
not having latest features.
L568[08:32:14] <asie> free as in beer, not
as in freedom
L569[08:32:32] <asie> Skye: LTS means more
time between updates
L570[08:32:42] <asie> and it's mostly
meant for servers and environments where an upgrade is a massive
hassle
L571[08:32:46] <asie> involving, say,
taking a server down
L572[08:33:06] <Skye> Every time I've
tried upgrading Ubuntu based distros, it's just left me with a mess
where I have to reinstall
L573[08:33:21] <asie> sounds like my
experience with Windows
L574[08:34:03] <Skye> I've never had to
reinstall for windows upgrades so
L575[08:34:15] <asie> a good advice i got
from ##ubuntu way back in 2011 (!!)
L576[08:34:21] <asie> is never upgrade in
the first week a new version is out
L577[08:34:21] <Izaya> Skye: literally
never had one go right
L578[08:34:27] <asie> honestly applies for
modern windows too
L579[08:34:48] <The_Stargazer> Huh
<The_Stargazer> HuhL580[08:34:55] <The_Stargazer> If you google "How
many games on windows"
<The_Stargazer> If you google "How
many games on windows"L581[08:35:00] <The_Stargazer> the answer is "at
least 35"
<The_Stargazer> the answer is "at
least 35"L582[08:35:12] <Izaya> asie: I'd go at
least two weeks with windows
L583[08:35:16] <Izaya> given the complete
lack of quality control
L584[08:36:42] <Skye> Downloading
xubuntu....
L585[08:37:03] <Skye> Also asie, Izaya:
will you be able to help with mouse driver issues or not if they
occur
L586[08:37:13] <Izaya> to a limited
degree
L587[08:37:28] <Izaya> I have a script
that disables acceleration on my laptop that I have autorun on
login
L588[08:37:38] <Skye> ...what
L589[08:37:41] <Skye> Why
L590[08:37:51] *
Izaya squints
L591[08:37:54] <Izaya> weren't you
L592[08:37:56] <Izaya> literally
just
L593[08:38:01] <Izaya> complaining about
acceleration
L594[08:38:03] <Skye> Yes
L595[08:38:07] <Skye> I'm just
wondering
L596[08:38:13] <Skye> Why does it ha w to
run every boot
L597[08:38:14] <Izaya> cause I tried it
and it was alright
L598[08:38:20] <Skye> Why every boot
L599[08:38:21] <Izaya> and I kinda forgot
about it
L600[08:38:24] <asie> any config setting
runs on every boot, Skye
L601[08:38:25] <Skye> Why is it not
saved
L602[08:38:27] <asie> it just doesn't
execute a command
L603[08:38:32] <Izaya> ^
L604[08:38:34] *
Lizzy dislikes acceleration on mice
L605[08:38:36] <Skye> Why is it not
saved
L606[08:38:40] <asie> what's the
difference?
L607[08:38:46] <Izaya> why would it be if
you can just add it to your xinitrc?
L608[08:38:57] <Skye> I don't want to
manually run a script every time...
L609[08:38:59] <Skye> Ah well
L610[08:39:01] <Izaya> >manually
L611[08:39:04] <The_Stargazer> use .bashrc
<The_Stargazer> use .bashrcL612[08:39:04] <asie> > autorun on
login
L613[08:39:05] <Izaya> ???
L614[08:39:06] <asie> > manually
L615[08:39:08] <The_Stargazer> or something like
that
<The_Stargazer> or something like
thatL616[08:39:11] <Izaya> >doing anything
manually
L617[08:39:17] <Skye> Oh
L618[08:39:21] <The_Stargazer> >manual
<The_Stargazer> >manualL619[08:39:21] <The_Stargazer> >autorun
<The_Stargazer> >autorunL620[08:39:21] <Skye> I misread that
L621[08:39:23] <Lizzy> using .bashrc for
Xorg stuff is not the best idea
L622[08:39:32] <Izaya> that's why xinitrc
exists
L623[08:39:40] <Izaya> nonetheless, saving
settings in that bloats xinput
L624[08:39:41] <The_Stargazer> a file I didn't even know
existed
<The_Stargazer> a file I didn't even know
existedL625[08:39:44] <Lizzy> that or .xprofile,
i think
L626[08:39:55] <Izaya> whereas it should
be the job of the DE to handle that
L627[08:40:06] <asie> it should
L628[08:40:12] <Skye> (though I still find
the idea of having to write a script to disable it instead of it
being a setting mildly disturbing)
L629[08:40:13] <asie> but DEs don't really
have enough devs unless they're GNOME
L630[08:40:21] <asie> Skye: it's a matter
of being used to it
L631[08:40:23] <Izaya> or, in the case of
no DE, the user sets it up themselves
L632[08:40:34] <Izaya> Skye: the
alternative is the same code being used inside xinput
L633[08:40:41] <Izaya> I don't see the
difference beyond a little IPC
L634[08:40:46] <Izaya> vs a little disk
reading
L635[08:40:50] <Lizzy> oh, aparrently i
don't have an .xprofile file anymore, oh well
L636[08:40:52] <Skye> Well is there a
check box
L637[08:41:05] <asie> if people paid for
Linux, there would be :thonk:
L638[08:41:05] <Skye> Iirc XFCE had one
that had no effect lol
L639[08:41:17] <The_Stargazer> inter-process
communication?
<The_Stargazer> inter-process
communication?L640[08:41:26] <Skye> Ah well downloading
xubuntu
L641[08:41:31] <Skye> Time to have a
shower.
L642[08:41:36] <Izaya> asie: almost as if
money encourages development
L643[08:41:36] <The_Stargazer> >xubuntu
<The_Stargazer> >xubuntuL644[08:41:37] <The_Stargazer> >not mint
<The_Stargazer> >not mintL645[08:41:44] <asie> Izaya: the point i'm
making is more subtle
L646[08:41:56] <asie> the Linux ecosystem
has no interest in pandering to user convienence, because it
doesn't get paid more if it has more users
L647[08:41:59] <The_Stargazer> Skye: mint >
xubuntu
<The_Stargazer> Skye: mint >
xubuntuL648[08:42:05] <The_Stargazer> have never actually used
xubuntu though so
<The_Stargazer> have never actually used
xubuntu though soL649[08:42:17] <The_Stargazer> I think I used it once
like, five years ago
<The_Stargazer> I think I used it once
like, five years agoL650[08:42:17] <Izaya> The_Stargazer: Mint
XFCE = Xubuntu LTS
L651[08:42:28] <The_Stargazer> >xfce
<The_Stargazer> >xfceL652[08:42:28] <The_Stargazer> >not cinnamon
<The_Stargazer> >not cinnamonL653[08:42:32] <Izaya> >cinnamon
L654[08:42:33] <asie> I am not a massive
fan of Mint
L655[08:42:38] <Skye> If I come back in a
few hours crying it's because I either can't figure out how to get
it to work, or I've wiped my main partition by accident
L656[08:42:53] <asie> Skye: you're always
so negative and self-doubting, and have been for years
L657[08:42:57] <The_Stargazer> I could say something but I
won't (not to you Skye)
<The_Stargazer> I could say something but I
won't (not to you Skye)L658[08:43:12] <Lizzy> i used to use mint,
then one day i said fuck it and tried arch (I blame vifino :P) and
haven't moved back. even if arch is a pain at times
L659[08:43:23] <Izaya> arch is aight
L660[08:43:28] <The_Stargazer> eh
<The_Stargazer> ehL661[08:43:31] <The_Stargazer> arch is meh
<The_Stargazer> arch is mehL662[08:43:33] <Izaya> wouldn't recommend
it to a novice though
L663[08:43:33] <Skye> asie: then maybe
Linux isn't for me...
L664[08:43:45] <Izaya> Skye: your
alternative is a dumpsterfire or out of your price range
L665[08:43:49] <Izaya> or haiku
L666[08:43:51] <Izaya> install haiku
L667[08:43:57] <Lizzy> yeah, i wouldn't
recomend arch to novices either
L668[08:44:02] <Izaya> Lizzy: I did
once
L669[08:44:05] <The_Stargazer> isn't haiku like
<The_Stargazer> isn't haiku likeL670[08:44:05] <The_Stargazer> that one BeOS fork?
<The_Stargazer> that one BeOS fork?L671[08:44:06] <Izaya> it worked better
than expected
L672[08:44:14] <Lizzy> or anyone who is
afraid of a terminal
L673[08:44:25] <Skye> Izaya: then maybe I
just don't use my laptop to play Minecraft.
L674[08:44:33] <Forecaster>
ubuntu server has worked well for me, that's the only one I've ever
used
<Forecaster>
ubuntu server has worked well for me, that's the only one I've ever
usedL675[08:44:41] <Izaya> >I won't solve
my problem because I refuse to!
L676[08:44:52] <Izaya> Either do something
about it or stop complaining.
L677[08:45:04] <Skye> Can I complain that
its too much effort
L678[08:45:09] <Izaya> No.
L679[08:45:17] <Izaya> Too much effort is
never a valid complaint.
L680[08:45:30] <Izaya> Unless it's
intentional and you plan to do something to make it easier,
anyway.
L681[08:45:40] <Skye> Look at this
point
L682[08:45:48] <Lizzy> my only issue with
ubuntu server is the extra crap that gets installed that i don't
need, like snap, mdadm (despite what i installed it to not being
any sort of RAID) and a few other stupid things
L683[08:45:50] <asie> You can't, unless
you've paid for Linux as much as you've paid for Windows.
L684[08:45:54] <asie> The price of the OS
on the laptop DOES count
L685[08:46:15] <asie> Whether it is in
effort or in money is irrelevant - you gotta pay
L686[08:46:19] <Skye> It's easier to play
a different game or to go for a walk
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L688[08:46:22] <asie> Correct
L689[08:46:27] <asie> But you wanted to
play that game, and complained about it
L690[08:47:08] <Skye> The thing is, I've
paid for windows, and it doesn't work for everything. So clearly
money spent doesn't equate into quality
L691[08:47:33] <asie> well, nothing works
for everything
L692[08:47:35] <asie> strictly
speaking
L693[08:47:39] <asie> it's all
trade-offs
L694[08:47:42] <Skye> And when I did
install Linux, I get told that I installed the wrong distro even
though it was the one suggested
L695[08:47:52] <asie> every person has a
different opinion on this
L696[08:47:55] <Inari> Nep works for
everything
L697[08:47:58] <asie> just like how some
stick to Windows 7 whereas others ues Windows 10
L698[08:47:58] <Skye> Why should this time
be any different
L699[08:48:07] <Skye> I mean Izaya
suggested Debain
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L701[08:48:25] <asie> we can't predict
what your particular trade-off dislikes are like
L702[08:48:30] <Inari> Is Debain a thing
different from Debian
L703[08:48:31] <asie> so we just tend to
suggest what works for us, at first
L704[08:49:20] <Skye> Well I'm gonna test
the mouse stuff on the live boot of XFCE before I install it
L705[08:49:22] <Skye> Just in case
L706[08:49:27] <asie> sure
L707[08:49:34] <asie> might also want to
consider, hm
L708[08:49:35] <asie> dual-booting
L709[08:49:47] <Skye> I will dual
boot
L710[08:49:52] <Lizzy> NEI/JEI why don't
yoiu have any of the buttons in the gui....
L711[08:49:59] <Skye> But if it hasn't got
working mouse drivers than I won't install it.
L712[08:50:16] <Skye> (and in working I
include being able to configure them)
L713[08:50:19] <Izaya> (Just because you
have Linux installed doesn't mean you can't subject yourself to the
extreme discomfort of using Windows)
L714[08:50:41] <Skye> ..............
L715[08:50:45] <Skye> Jz
L716[08:51:04] <Izaya> that's jwz to
you
L717[08:51:06] <Izaya> wait
L718[08:51:11] <Lizzy> OH
L719[08:51:23] <Lizzy> fucking stupid
settings....
L720[08:51:28] <Skye> asie: Izaya: also is
there a way to handle the touchscreen
L721[08:51:38] <Skye> It needs
calibration
L722[08:51:40] <Izaya> loonix has
surprisingly good wacom drivers
L723[08:51:46] <Forecaster>
yay, new art portfolio setup is complete
<Forecaster>
yay, new art portfolio setup is completeL724[08:51:57] <Skye> How does one
calibrate a touchscreen in winderps
L725[08:51:59] <Forecaster>
now back to whatever I was doing before that...
<Forecaster>
now back to whatever I was doing before that...L726[08:52:10] <Izaya> I haven't
personally used them given I only have an off-brand graphics
tablet, but nonetheless
L727[08:52:14] <Izaya> !aw wacom
L728[08:52:17] <Izaya> wait this isn't a
browser
L729[08:52:32] <Skye> Okay I'm gonna
shower now.
L730[08:52:37] <Izaya> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Wacom_tablet
L731[08:53:21] <Forecaster>
hm, I wonder if MichiBot could be made to use DDG bangs
<Forecaster>
hm, I wonder if MichiBot could be made to use DDG bangsL732[08:53:48] <The_Stargazer> maybe something like %ddg
[bang] [search]?
<The_Stargazer> maybe something like %ddg
[bang] [search]?L733[08:54:10] <Skye> "xrandr
setup" oh thank fuck I'm not doing this on a computer with
multiple displays
L734[08:54:53] <Izaya> pretty sure that's
for a tablet with an external display anyway but ok
L735[08:55:10] <Skye> xrandr sets two
monitors as one big screen, mapping the tablet to the whole virtual
screen and deforming aspect ratio. For a solution see this thread:
Arch Linux forum.
L736[08:55:14] <Skye> So uh
L737[08:55:25] <Skye> Izaya: this has no
mention of touch screens at all
L738[08:55:38] <Izaya> you have an X220t,
yes?
L739[08:56:01] <Skye> Yes
L740[08:56:03] <Izaya> the X220t has a
wacom digitiser, as a touchscreen of sorts
L741[08:56:17] <Skye> Yes.
L742[08:56:19] <Skye> But
L743[08:56:26] <Skye> This does not
mention calibration
L744[08:56:33] <Izaya> have you
considered:
L745[08:56:36] <Skye> Or wacom tablets
with built in screens
L746[08:56:36] <Izaya> it just werkz
L747[08:57:08] <Skye> No it doesn't. At
least on debain it was wildy miscalibrated
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L749[08:58:03] <Izaya> well
L750[08:58:08] <Izaya> I'd love to give
you more detail
L751[08:58:32] <Izaya> but all I know is
that there's tools that do support doing so
L752[08:58:44] *
Skye flops
L753[08:58:51] <Izaya> given I don't have
an X220t, you might have to do some research yourself
L754[08:59:38] <Skye> I gave up on Linux
on my desktop because it seemed that my setup was so different that
no one could actually help me.
L755[09:00:09] <Skye> And honestly, I'm
not smart
L756[09:00:17] <Skye> I just try random
things and hope they work
L757[09:00:29] <Izaya>
congratulations
L758[09:00:31] <Skye> That only works when
someone has had the same problem before and has figured it
out
L759[09:00:37] <Izaya> you are qualified
for any position involving computers
L760[09:01:08] <Skye> So when I have some
crazy issue that no one else has encountered due to me having a
messed up setup due to be not being able to afford a good
consistent setup...
L761[09:01:28] <Skye> Then I'm
fucked
L762[09:02:04] <Izaya> sounds like
stalling to me
L763[09:02:37] <Skye> (for a recap of my
desktop: I can't run all my monitors off of a single GPU, so I have
to use my integrated one too)
L764[09:02:56] <Skye> (and... For some
reason... No one wad able to help when I had issues with it.)
L765[09:03:05] <Izaya> which on Windows is
accomplished by copying the output of one GPU to another
L766[09:03:07] <Izaya> it's a nasty
hack
L767[09:03:12] <Izaya> but a functional
one
L768[09:03:16] *
Izaya never got such a setup working
L769[09:03:21] <Skye> (the only solution
was to "buy a new GPU")
L770[09:03:27] <Skye> So uh
L771[09:03:30] <Skye> Yeah
L772[09:03:41] <Izaya> how many
displays?
L773[09:03:48] <Skye> 3
L774[09:04:07] <Skye> 2 run from main GPU,
1 from integrated
L775[09:04:10] <Skye> I got them
cheap
L776[09:04:44] <Skye> But not cheap enough
to just not use it
L777[09:05:05] <Skye> Anyway... This is
tangential
L778[09:05:28] <Lizzy> what gpu do you
have that only has 2 outputs?
L779[09:05:47] <Izaya> what the fuck why
does the RX580 I bought 6 months ago cost like $100 more than it
did
L780[09:06:07] <feherneoh> because people
realized that AMD > Nvidia?
L781[09:06:08] <Skye> My point is that I'm
kinda cynical when I have to install Linux for non server stuff
because anything to do with human interface is just so messed
up
L782[09:06:36] <Izaya> friendly reminder
that you only like windows because you already know how to work
around everything wrong with it
L783[09:06:40] <feherneoh> both my laptops
and even my tablet runs Linux
L784[09:06:44] <Izaya> (and there's a lot
wrong with it)
L785[09:07:00] <Skye> Izaya: it worked
with my GPU out of the box
L786[09:07:13] <Skye> Like heck it
downloaded the drivers for me automatically
L787[09:07:34] <Skye> AND GAVE ME THE
OPTION TO DISABLE MOUSE ACCEL
L788[09:07:53] <feherneoh> I could ask
"what is a GPU?" playing games on integrated
L789[09:07:56] <Skye> Lizzy: it has 3
outputs but it just fails if you make it use more than 2 of
them
L790[09:07:56] <Izaya> so how'd you deal
with the shitty software delivery method, the updates that break
everything every 2 minutes, the insane resource usage and the
general lack of sanity for anything written post 2000
L791[09:08:23] <feherneoh> Skye: sounds
like a card with multiple interfaces on the same
"output"
L792[09:08:25] <Izaya> win2k would've been
alright if it had a package manager
L793[09:08:26] <Lizzy> hmm
L794[09:08:50] <Izaya> feherneoh: my GT220
had 4 outputs but could only display on any combination of 2 at a
time
L795[09:09:02] <Izaya> just an (I suspect
artificial) limitation of the card
L796[09:09:07] <feherneoh> same goes for
GT250
L797[09:09:13] <feherneoh>
VGA+DVI+HDMI
L798[09:09:19] <feherneoh> but only 2
outputs
L799[09:09:24] <Skye> Izaya, I tend not to
install software, updates don't break things on my config (while
they do on Linux, go figure), resources are indeed a pain, and lol
Linux user stuff isn't sane either have you SEEN gnome...
L800[09:09:29] <feherneoh> VGA and HDMI
are port 1, DVI is port 2
L801[09:09:40] <Izaya> Skye: shun
GNOME
L802[09:09:40] <AmandaC> Lizzy collecting
the kittens: https://imgur.com/gallery/eHo6ZYz
L803[09:09:50] <Skye> So basically
L804[09:09:52] <ben_mkiv> actually gnome3
is kinda usable now
L805[09:10:00] <Lizzy> AmandaC,
hehehe
L806[09:10:03] <Skye> Everything
sucks
L807[09:10:04] <Izaya> just because
they're busy fucking up everything doesn't mean you have to use
their BS
L808[09:10:08] <feherneoh> Skye: updates
always broke stuff for me on Ubuntu, they just work on Arch
L809[09:10:22] <Skye> I had issues with
both arch and Ubuntu
L810[09:10:29] <Lizzy> AmandaC, normally i
just need to open the cookie jar and they all come running
L811[09:10:34] <Izaya> I didn't update
arch on one machine for a year
L812[09:10:37] <Izaya> it uh
L813[09:10:42] <Izaya> I rebooted and it
didn't come back up
L814[09:10:44] <Skye> Izaya: I used XFCE
and I probably can blame mouse issues on them
L815[09:10:53] <Skye> Since it uses gnome
libraries
L816[09:10:55] <Skye> So idk
L817[09:10:56] <AmandaC> Izaya: it does
that even if you update weekly
L818[09:11:04] <Skye> This is why I want
to be a train driver
L819[09:11:05] <Izaya> AmandaC: [citation
needed]
L820[09:11:10] <Skye> Rather than a
programmer
L821[09:11:10] <feherneoh> Izaya: well
yes, arch needs a package update every 5 minutes to stay
alive
L822[09:11:12] <AmandaC> I've had it
happen
L823[09:11:18] <Izaya> good enough for
me
L824[09:11:26] <Skye> Goodbye for now,
gonna punch a wall in anger
L825[09:11:36] <AmandaC> They just up and
changed everything in an update and it killed the box
L826[09:11:46] <Izaya> Skye: tfw you don't
want to be a programmer but your boss/gf's dad wants you to be
because he knows it's better money than <anything>admin
L827[09:12:03] <AmandaC> when people went
to their IRC to ask, the response was all "Didn't you read the
blog post?"
L828[09:12:11] <Skye> Well I don't want to
be ab admin either
L829[09:12:22] <Izaya> just so we're not
confusing anything, (boss)/(gf's dad)
L830[09:12:30] <feherneoh> AmandaC:
happens
L831[09:12:52] <AmandaC> I feel like if
you're going to need manual update steps, there should be something
being printed when you do the update, not that you should have to
consult some website
L832[09:13:09] <feherneoh> Yeah, you are
right about that
L833[09:13:17] <Izaya> I'd agree with
that
L834[09:13:23] <Izaya> but pacman is
honestly dumb as shit
L835[09:13:41] <Izaya> maybe they should
have a "date of last breakage" thing pacman can query on
their site
L836[09:13:49] <Skye> Izaya: all this
convo has done is made me remember that I'm stupid and shouldn't
even bother.
L837[09:14:00] <Izaya> and alert you to
check the site
L838[09:14:06] <feherneoh> Izaya: a
hardcoded "now"?
L839[09:14:08] <Skye> So maybe, instead of
"I can't play Minecraft on my laptop" it should be
L840[09:14:27] <Skye> "I'm too stupid
to figure out how to get Minecraft on my laptop"
L841[09:14:29] <Skye> Yep
L842[09:14:32] <Skye> I'll go with
that
L843[09:14:37] <Izaya> "I'm too lazy
to solve the problems making it practical to play Minecraft on my
laptop"
L844[09:14:43] <feherneoh> for me it's
`aur minecraft-launcher`
L845[09:14:48] <Izaya> making it
impractical, I suppose
L846[09:14:55] <feherneoh> and it Just
Works (TM)
L847[09:14:56] <Skye> I am too stupid to
be able to get Minecraft working on my laptop
L848[09:14:59] <Izaya> feherneoh: you are
conflicting
L849[09:15:09] <Izaya> I like you.
L850[09:15:13] <feherneoh> I always
am
L851[09:15:19] <Lizzy> oops, one of my
game controllers just got pushed off my desk
L852[09:15:19] <Skye> Izaya: the thing is
I know that it's possible to solve, but I don't know how
L853[09:15:20] <Lizzy> oh well
L854[09:15:22] <Skye> So I'm stupid
L855[09:15:36] <feherneoh> Lizzy: did it
survive?
L856[09:15:46] *
Skye sighs
L857[09:15:47] <Lizzy> yeah, it's only a
meter drop
L858[09:15:50] <Lizzy> and i have
carpet
L859[09:15:56] <Izaya> Skye: >everyone
is an expert at everything they do except me
L860[09:16:02] <Bob>
yay
<Bob>
yayL861[09:16:04] <AmandaC> Lizzy: just admit
it slighted you and needed to be punished, nothing to be ashamed
about
L862[09:16:06] <Izaya> get a load of
yourself
L863[09:16:07] <Bob> my
internet is back to its shitty old state
<Bob> my
internet is back to its shitty old stateL864[09:16:08] <feherneoh> my DualShock4
fell 3 floors on the stairs
L865[09:16:11] <Skye> I'm a stupid idiot
who doesn't know anything... Maybe I should leave here
L866[09:16:11] <feherneoh> still
survived
L867[09:16:12] <Bob> 150
ping and 1mbps
<Bob> 150
ping and 1mbpsL868[09:16:15] *
AmandaC pushes Inari's mouse off the desk
L869[09:16:18] <Bob> just
to isp
<Bob> just
to ispL870[09:16:36] <Lizzy> Skye, no
L871[09:16:45] *
Lizzy hugs Skye
L872[09:17:51] <AdorableCatgirl> tbh, i left an arch
installer on a partition on my HDD
<AdorableCatgirl> tbh, i left an arch
installer on a partition on my HDDL873[09:17:52] <Skye> Izaya: I remeber
being on the verge of tears because it was so hard to get it
working
L874[09:18:07] <Skye> So maybe I should
cancel this before it happens again
L875[09:18:26] <Izaya> better idea
L876[09:18:29] <Izaya> if it isn't
working
L877[09:18:35] <Izaya> throw your hands up
and look at it later
L878[09:18:54] <Inari> Flip a table
L879[09:19:06] <feherneoh> I would flip my
table, but it's a server
L880[09:19:10] <Forecaster>
flip an irani
<Forecaster>
flip an iraniL881[09:19:14] <Forecaster>
inari*
<Forecaster>
inari*L882[09:19:15] <Skye> Izaya: but then
you'll call me lazy so there's no solution
L883[09:19:44] <Izaya> ???
L884[09:20:20] <Lizzy> you were calling
her lazy earlier because she said that she didn't have the energy
to figure stuff out
L885[09:21:55] <Izaya> was calling her
lazy because she'd given up because it was too hard
L886[09:22:01] <Izaya> not because she'd
decided to sleep on it
L887[09:22:13] <Izaya> for a metaphorical
definition of sleep
L888[09:22:14] <Skye> I want to note
something, I can't learn well if I am just told "do something,
do the research yourself"
L889[09:22:39] <Skye> I do need soneone to
guide me through things and answer my stupid questions
L891[09:23:01] <Skye> Even for things I'm
doing myself I need soneone to ask questions from, or a really good
explanation somewhere
L892[09:23:16] <Skye> the arch wiki is
helpful
L893[09:23:31] <Skye> But sometimes it had
massive gaps which leave something unsolveable for me.
L894[09:23:51] <Inari> s/gaps/thigh
gaps/
L895[09:23:51] <MichiBot> <Skye> But
sometimes it had massive thigh gaps which leave something
unsolveable for me.
L896[09:24:06] <Izaya> Inari: with
fangs?
L897[09:24:09] <Inari> Yes
L898[09:24:15] <Izaya> excellent
L899[09:24:17] <Skye> So basically I'm
stupid
L900[09:24:25] <Skye> Maybe a bit lazy
too
L901[09:25:33] <Skye> Maybe I'd like
puzzles if the functionality of my computer didn't depend on
it.
L902[09:25:44] <Skye> But even then, I
kinda suck at puzzles
L903[09:26:09] <Forecaster>
Train Valley 2 is a great puzzle game
<Forecaster>
Train Valley 2 is a great puzzle gameL904[09:26:10] <Skye> Honestly I'm
surprised that I even managed to do some stuff
L905[09:27:05] <Skye> So basically I'm
stupid and lazy and complain too much, so I guess I should leave
before I annoy you all.
L906[09:27:35] *
Lizzy cuddles Skye, keeps her here
L907[09:28:03] <Forecaster>
well Izaya is a grump, so you should ignore him
<Forecaster>
well Izaya is a grump, so you should ignore himL908[09:28:03] <Skye> (sorry, I'm in quite
a sad mood today)
L909[09:28:20] <Izaya> I'm an asshole this
is a well known fact
L910[09:28:23] <AdorableCatgirl> wait so
<AdorableCatgirl> wait soL911[09:28:37] <AdorableCatgirl> what exactly even is the
problem :GWchinaSakuraThinking:
<AdorableCatgirl> what exactly even is the
problem :GWchinaSakuraThinking:L912[09:28:53] <Izaya> what is a
GWchinaSakuraThinking
L913[09:29:00] <AdorableCatgirl> thinking emoji
<AdorableCatgirl> thinking emojiL914[09:29:03] <AdorableCatgirl> but
<AdorableCatgirl> butL915[09:29:05] <AdorableCatgirl> anime girl
<AdorableCatgirl> anime girlL916[09:29:16] <Izaya> boring
L917[09:30:03] <Izaya> I bet you don't
even have cool emojos like :madot: and :asukasmug: like WLL
does
L918[09:30:12] <AdorableCatgirl> no
<AdorableCatgirl> noL919[09:30:20] <AmandaC> WLL?
L920[09:30:21] <AdorableCatgirl> because i'm not paying
for nitro and shit like that
<AdorableCatgirl> because i'm not paying
for nitro and shit like thatL921[09:30:29] <Izaya> >paying for
emojos
L922[09:30:36] <Izaya> what sort of
horrific system is this
L923[09:30:45] <Lizzian>
:HyperNeko:
<Lizzian>
:HyperNeko:L924[09:30:52] <Izaya> AmandaC:
WeLoveLain, the pleroma instance I am an honorary member of
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L926[09:30:59] <Temia> Why do you think
I'm over here, Izaya
L927[09:31:03] <AmandaC> I see
L928[09:31:19] <AdorableCatgirl> Izaya: it's discord
<AdorableCatgirl> Izaya: it's discordL929[09:31:21] <Izaya> Temia: because you
have at least some semblance of taste?
L930[09:31:27] <AdorableCatgirl> finally IRC
reconnected
<AdorableCatgirl> finally IRC
reconnectedL931[09:31:32] <AdorableCatgirl> but
yeah
L932[09:31:33] <Temia> c:
L933[09:31:44] <AdorableCatgirl> i now
literally have a script called "unfuck-nm"
L934[09:31:48] <Forecaster>
nobody has taste, it's all terrible
<Forecaster>
nobody has taste, it's all terribleL935[09:32:11] <AdorableCatgirl> it kills
wpa_supplicant and restarts NetworkManager
L936[09:32:29] <kb1000>
hmm
<kb1000>
hmmL937[09:32:34] <AdorableCatgirl> and it
somehow fixes NetworkManager
L938[09:32:43] <AdorableCatgirl> based
networkmanager
L939[09:32:52] <AdorableCatgirl> i have to
run it everytime i wake my PC up
L940[09:32:58] <AmandaC> You're just salty
about the nasty pie you ate, @Forecaster
L941[09:33:01] <kb1000> I
wonder why my fedora system always needs to reload the wl kernel
module using modprobe after waking up from standby
<kb1000> I
wonder why my fedora system always needs to reload the wl kernel
module using modprobe after waking up from standbyL942[09:33:24] <AdorableCatgirl> lol
L943[09:33:26] <Forecaster>
%sip
<Forecaster>
%sipL944[09:33:26] <MichiBot> You drink a
resonating red potion (New!). Forecaster reboots for an update for
3 minutes.
L945[09:33:40] <Forecaster>
. . .
<Forecaster>
. . .L946[09:33:45] <AdorableCatgirl> beep boop
beep
L947[09:33:48] <Izaya> AdorableCatgirl: I
got set up on your server
L948[09:33:50] <Izaya> in a
mineshaft
L949[09:33:51] <Lizzy> %tonkout
L950[09:33:52] <MichiBot> Willikers!
Lizzy! You beat SquidDev's previous record of 1 hour, 39 minutes
and 49 seconds (By 17 minutes and 56 seconds)! I hope you're
happy!
L951[09:33:53] <MichiBot> Lizzy has stolen
the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.001 tonk points!
Current score: 0.44562
L952[09:34:00] <AdorableCatgirl> Izaya:
based
L953[09:34:09] <Lizzy> wth does based
mean?
L954[09:34:10] <Izaya> figure that should
provide mild nuke resistance
L955[09:34:15] <AdorableCatgirl> finna
start firing thermobarics at every mineshaft i know of
L956[09:34:43] <AdorableCatgirl>
?FORECASTER IS GONE ?
L957[09:34:59] <AdorableCatgirl> But
yeah
L958[09:35:04] <AdorableCatgirl> I'm out
of town rn
L959[09:35:07] <Izaya> %ud based
L960[09:35:16] <AdorableCatgirl> might hop
on in a bit
L961[09:35:16] <Izaya> https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Based
L962[09:35:20] <AdorableCatgirl> gotta get
F O O D
L963[09:35:25] <Forecaster>
%search
<Forecaster>
%searchL964[09:35:25] <Izaya> not sure how to
generate power down here tbh
L965[09:35:25] <MichiBot> Forecaster:
Unknown sub-command '' (Try: google, curseForge, wiki, urban, ann,
youtube)
L966[09:35:35] <Izaya> no IE, no BWM
L967[09:35:42] <Lizzy> ah
L968[09:35:47] <Izaya> so I can't just set
up a water wheel
L969[09:35:56] <Inari> BWM?
L970[09:36:01] <Izaya> Better with
Mods
L971[09:36:05] <AdorableCatgirl> oh
L972[09:36:21] <AdorableCatgirl> i mean RC
has a waterwheel but you need a blast furnace
L973[09:36:24] <AdorableCatgirl>
*RoC
L974[09:36:30] <AdorableCatgirl> and you'd
need lava
L975[09:36:51] <AdorableCatgirl> and a
Rotational Dynamo
L976[09:37:21] <AdorableCatgirl> https://rotarycraft.fandom.com/wiki/Hydrokinetic_Engine
L977[09:37:23] <Izaya> AmandaC: https://emojos.in/welovela.in
L978[09:38:19] <AdorableCatgirl> https://rotarycraft.fandom.com/wiki/Rotational_Dynamo
L979[09:38:27] <Izaya> AdorableCatgirl:
>rotarycraft
L980[09:38:29] <Izaya>
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
L981[09:38:31] <AdorableCatgirl> yea
L982[09:38:33] <Izaya> aaaa
L983[09:38:35] <Izaya> a
L984[09:38:37] <Izaya> aaa also
L985[09:38:39] <AdorableCatgirl> also
Galacticraft has a coal generator
L986[09:38:45] <AdorableCatgirl> and solar
panels
L987[09:38:49] <Izaya> I mean, EnderIO has
a coal generator
L988[09:38:54] <AdorableCatgirl> oh
shit
L989[09:38:55] <Izaya> but that's hardly
renewable (read: low maintenance)
L990[09:38:59] <AdorableCatgirl> yea
L991[09:39:00] <Izaya> it also has solar
panels
L992[09:39:05] <AdorableCatgirl> solar is
the main meme then
L993[09:39:13] <Izaya> but I don't really
wanna run power lines from the surface
L994[09:39:17] <AdorableCatgirl> tbh i
just use nuclear
L995[09:39:51] <AdorableCatgirl> steam
doesn't wanna connect reeeee
L996[09:40:01] <AdorableCatgirl> w/e
L997[09:40:18] <AdorableCatgirl> Izaya:
i'll be SSH'd into the server in a sec
L998[09:40:23] <AdorableCatgirl> i gotta
ssh through an ssh
L999[09:40:26] <Izaya> nice
L1000[09:40:32] <Izaya> ssh -C will help
with 1.7.10
L1001[09:40:38] <Izaya> 1.something later
added compression
L1002[09:40:44] <Izaya> but 1.7.10
benefits from compression
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L1004[09:41:25] <AdorableCatgirl>
oh
L1005[09:41:35] <AdorableCatgirl> i just
wanted to access the console for shitposts
L1006[09:41:45] <Izaya> not logged in
presently
L1007[09:41:47] <Izaya> kinda hit a
wall
L1008[09:41:50] <AdorableCatgirl> f
L1009[09:41:52] <AdorableCatgirl> what
happened
L1010[09:41:53] <Izaya> couldn't decide
how to do power
L1011[09:41:57] <AdorableCatgirl>
oh
L1012[09:41:59] <AdorableCatgirl>
yeah
L1013[09:42:03] <Izaya> so I figured I
was too drunk to keep playing
L1014[09:42:22] <Izaya> and now I've been
accidentally yelling at Skye for half an hour
L1015[09:42:24] <Izaya> go figure
L1016[09:43:00] <feherneoh> just Izaya
things
L1017[09:43:13] <Izaya> you know it
L1018[09:43:15] <AdorableCatgirl>
nice
L1019[09:43:23] <AdorableCatgirl> always
build nuclear reactors while drunk lmao
L1020[09:43:28] <AdorableCatgirl> it
werks great
L1021[09:43:49] <Izaya> nuclear is not
renewable
L1022[09:44:51] <Izaya> friendly reminder
that solar and wind are both cheaper and more effective than
nuclear energy, AND less likely to blow up in your face
L1023[09:44:58] <Izaya> whether I mean
real life or not is debatable
L1024[09:45:25] <AdorableCatgirl> but
hey
L1025[09:45:37] <AdorableCatgirl> i need
a few hundred MRF/t
L1026[09:45:42] <feherneoh> I like
OC-ifying huge reactors
L1027[09:45:49] <AdorableCatgirl> i would
but
L1028[09:45:56] <feherneoh> but I don't
have patience for it unless drunk
L1029[09:45:56] <AdorableCatgirl> if
every block is a component
L1030[09:46:01] <AdorableCatgirl> it
makes me want to liven't
L1031[09:46:10] <Izaya> I don't want
computers anywhere near reactors tbh
L1032[09:47:19] <AdorableCatgirl> so
warpdrive has a reactor sort of thing but it SUCKS
L1033[09:47:41] <Izaya> so my options for
underground power gen are:
L1034[09:47:44] <Izaya> - don't
L1035[09:47:46] <Izaya> - nuclear
L1036[09:47:49] <Izaya> excellent
L1037[09:47:54] <AdorableCatgirl>
bet
L1038[09:48:10] <AdorableCatgirl> iirc
there might be another way?
L1039[09:48:19] <Izaya> do we have
railcraft
L1040[09:48:23] <AdorableCatgirl> i don't
remember if you can use lava --yea
L1041[09:48:33] <Izaya> I could make a
coke oven and just use lots and lots and lots of coal coke
L1042[09:48:46] <AdorableCatgirl> i was
gonna say there might be a way to generate steam via lava or some
shit
L1043[09:49:00] <AdorableCatgirl> i
genuinely have forgotten what cocktail of mods i have
L1044[09:49:06] <Izaya> RedPower 2 had a
generator that made power from sitting next to ice and lava
L1045[09:49:14] <AdorableCatgirl>
brb
L1046[09:49:37] <Bob>
for no valid reason scteam crashed on a connection lost
<Bob>
for no valid reason scteam crashed on a connection lostL1047[09:49:47] <Bob>
closing borderlands 2
<Bob>
closing borderlands 2L1048[09:49:48] <Bob>
amazing
<Bob>
amazingL1049[09:49:48] <Bob>
what in the heavens is up even
<Bob>
what in the heavens is up evenL1050[09:49:58] <Forecaster> north
<Forecaster> northL1051[09:50:33] <Izaya> only realised my
bike had a trip meter today
L1052[09:50:38] <Izaya> even better: it
has two
L1053[09:50:39] <AdorableCatgirl> based
<AdorableCatgirl> basedL1054[09:50:40] <Izaya> not sure
why
L1055[09:50:55] <Forecaster> so you can go on two trips at
once
<Forecaster> so you can go on two trips at
onceL1056[09:50:57] <Forecaster> obviously
<Forecaster> obviouslyL1057[09:51:07] <Izaya> one does 999.9km
precision, the other does 99999km tops
L1058[09:51:24] <AdorableCatgirl> dam
<AdorableCatgirl> damL1059[09:51:42] <AdorableCatgirl> i gotta go eat
<AdorableCatgirl> i gotta go eatL1060[09:52:03]
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L1064[10:00:21] <kb1000>
bauen1 why do you quit/join irc so often
<kb1000>
bauen1 why do you quit/join irc so oftenL1065[10:00:36] <Lizzy> dodgy
internet
L1066[10:00:50] <Lizzy> as denoted by the
"Ping timeout" quit message
L1067[10:09:26] <Inari> Temia: https://imgur.com/gallery/E0VEo8O
L1068[10:10:07] <Temia> Awwww
L1069[10:10:12] <Temia> Smart birb
L1070[10:10:24] <Inari> Probably won't
turn it back off though haha
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L1075[10:45:38] <AmandaC>
@AdorableCatgirl I think NM handles wifi fine, you s houldn't need
wpa_supplicant
L1076[10:46:10] <AdorableCatgirl> iirc you need
wpa_supplicant for wpa
<AdorableCatgirl> iirc you need
wpa_supplicant for wpaL1077[10:46:11] <AmandaC> at least not
directly
L1078[10:46:15] <AdorableCatgirl> and wpa2
<AdorableCatgirl> and wpa2L1079[10:46:22] <AmandaC> NM can talk to
and control it itself fine
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L1081[10:49:33] <AdorableCatgirl>
anyways
L1082[10:49:36] <AdorableCatgirl> wifi is
working now
L1083[10:49:42] <AdorableCatgirl> all i
did was restart
L1084[10:50:01] <AdorableCatgirl> and it
werked
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L1086[10:56:26] <AdorableCatgirl>
dam
L1087[10:56:36] <AdorableCatgirl> my
fuckin screen hinge bit warped and came off
L1088[10:56:43] <AdorableCatgirl> finna
fix this
L1089[10:57:11] <AdorableCatgirl> fixed
enough
L1090[10:57:17] <AdorableCatgirl> is
super glue heat resistant?
L1091[10:58:02] *
Lizzy shrugs
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L1093[10:58:38] <Forecaster> if it doesn't say it on the
bottle, probably not
<Forecaster> if it doesn't say it on the
bottle, probably notL1094[11:01:26] <AdorableCatgirl>
dam
L1095[11:01:41] <AdorableCatgirl> i gotta
find a glue that'll resist the heat of HELL that my laptop puts
out
L1096[11:02:35] <Lizzy> it'd only need to
survive up to about 90C anyway
L1097[11:02:51] <Lizzy> the laptop will
shut off after that probably
L1098[11:02:54] <Izaya> Hardly warm
L1099[11:03:03] <AdorableCatgirl>
yea
L1100[11:03:17] <AdorableCatgirl> the
only problem is the vent blows on the hinge
L1101[11:03:53] <AdorableCatgirl>
like
L1102[11:03:56] <AdorableCatgirl>
yea
L1103[11:04:02] <AdorableCatgirl> rear
facing fan, ya know?
L1104[11:07:29] <Lizzy> still
L1105[11:07:37] <Lizzy> if it's over 90C,
you'll have other problems
L1106[11:07:46] <AdorableCatgirl>
huh
L1107[11:07:53] <AdorableCatgirl> it's
only 57 degrees
L1108[11:08:01] <AdorableCatgirl> tbh my
old laptop could get 90+
L1109[11:08:36] <AdorableCatgirl> good
old Turion 64 X2
L1110[11:10:21] <AdorableCatgirl>
anyways
L1111[11:10:23] <AdorableCatgirl> i feel
good
L1112[11:10:42] <AdorableCatgirl> i have
the H E V M A R K F O U R P R O T E C T I V E S Y S T E M
L1113[11:11:02] <AdorableCatgirl> F O R U
S E I N H A Z A R D O U S E N V I R O M E N T C O N D I T I O N
S
L1114[11:14:04] <AdorableCatgirl>
also
L1115[11:14:09] <AdorableCatgirl> my base
is super sneeki and hidden
L1116[11:14:17] <AdorableCatgirl> at
least the actually important part
L1117[11:15:28] <Temia> but is your base
super cheeki
L1118[11:16:02] <AdorableCatgirl>
no
L1119[11:16:07] <AdorableCatgirl> it's
discount black mesa
L1120[11:16:18] *
Temia does a drone flyby, drops the hardbass on Cat
L1121[11:16:26] <Temia> Now it is.
L1122[11:17:13] <Temia> Come to think of
it, if I ever make that patch to add a DFPWM channel to the sound
card
L1123[11:17:16] <Temia> I could totally
do that
L1124[11:18:06] *
Inari pokes Temia's soundcard
L1125[11:18:13] *
Temia eep
L1126[11:19:26] *
Skye flops onto a pillow sadly
L1127[11:19:40] <Inari> I need to buy a
sound card at some point
L1128[11:19:49] <Temia> Hm?
L1129[11:20:08] <Temia> Soundcards are
pretty specialized at this point, what do you need one for?
L1130[11:20:24] <Inari> Better sound than
my on-board one xD And like a global equalizer
L1131[11:21:41] <asie> %tonk
L1132[11:21:42] <MichiBot> Waesucks!
asie! You beat Lizzy's previous record of <0 (By 1 hour, 47
minutes and 49 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L1133[11:21:43] <MichiBot> asie's new
record is 1 hour, 47 minutes and 49 seconds! asie also gained
0.0018 tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L1134[11:21:54] <Temia> That's
fair.
L1135[11:22:01] <Temia> Realtek's chips
are... not fantastic.
L1136[11:23:09] <Inari> Mostly
L1137[11:23:19] <Inari> I have a USB
soundcard, but it's tied to the headset, which I've been looking to
replace
L1138[11:23:29] <Inari> So I'm trying on
board sound again, but it doesn't sound as good imo
L1139[11:25:08] *** Lizzy sets mode: -b
*!*@autism.nbextension.download
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L1143[11:31:22] <Soni> these are good
reads for ppl trying to be supportive of autistic/neurodivergent
ppl https://todon.nl/@stackingstones/102270964031045297
L1144[11:35:47] <Temia> That is one hell
of a vhost.
L1145[11:35:53] <Lizzy> oh god. i just
found the source i had lying around for EnderBot2....
L1146[11:35:58] <Lizzy> this is
horrible
L1147[11:36:07] <Temia> says the one
whose vhost is literally just "monster girls"
L1148[11:36:14] <Inari>
#BringBackEnderBot2
L1149[11:36:23] <Lizzy> gimmie a
sec
L1150[11:37:17] <AdorableCatgirl> i have
a SB Audigy 2 at home lmao
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L1152[11:40:00] <Skye> Temia: your vhost
is cute
L1153[11:41:19] <Temia> <3
L1154[11:41:21] <Temia> Thank you~
L1155[11:42:36] <Lizzy> hmm, i need a
python 2 virtual env
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L1157[11:44:07] <Lizzy> here goes
nothing
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L1159[11:44:17] <Lizzy> and already hit
an error
L1160[11:44:20] <Lizzy> oh
L1161[11:44:23] <Lizzy> missing
requirement
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L1163[11:45:12] <Lizzy> there it is
L1164[11:45:43] *
AmandaC thinks EB2 predates her joining the channel, what's special
about it
L1165[11:45:43] <Lizzy> EnderBot2,
dance
L1166[11:45:43] *
EnderBot2 dances
L1167[11:45:48] <AmandaC> Sold.
L1168[11:45:53] *
AmandaC dances around with EnderBot2
L1169[11:46:13] <Lizzy> i wonder if this
will still work
L1170[11:46:18] <Lizzy> this is
madness!
L1171[11:46:18] ***
EnderBot2 is now known as Leonidas
L1172[11:46:18] <Leonidas>
Madness....?
L1173[11:46:19] <Leonidas> THIS.
L1174[11:46:19] <Leonidas> IS.
L1175[11:46:20] <Leonidas> #oc!!
L1176[11:46:21] <EnderBot2> Seriously,
what did you think this was?
L1177[11:46:21] ***
Leonidas is now known as EnderBot2
L1178[11:46:31] <Lizzy> yep
L1180[11:47:02] <Lizzy> .jenkins
L1181[11:47:11] <Lizzy> oh god
L1182[11:47:21] <Lizzy> i can't remember
which place that went to
L1183[11:47:31] <EnderBot2> Latest
builds: ICBMComponent: N/A
(<urlopen error [Errno -3] Temporary failure in name
resolution>) | OpenLights1.7: N/A (<urlopen error
[Errno -3] Temporary failure in name resolution>) | OpenSecurity: N/A (HTTP Error 404: Not
Found) | OpenComputersDev:
#1084 | OpenPrinter: N/A
(<urlopen error [Errno -3] Temporary failure in name
resolution>) | OpenComputers: #39 | OpenLights: N/A (<urlopen
L1184[11:47:32] <Lizzy> hmm
L1185[11:47:34] <Forecaster> the vooooid~
<Forecaster> the vooooid~L1186[11:47:36] <Lizzy> oh, cool
L1187[11:48:00] <Lizzy> what is it
actually using for those
L1188[11:48:42] <Lizzy> aah
L1189[11:49:12] <Lizzy> lanteacraft is
where most of them go, and i think Mimiru dropped that domain
L1190[11:49:50] <Lizzy> what else could
this bot do
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L1192[11:50:13] <Forecaster> destroy humanity,
probably
<Forecaster> destroy humanity,
probablyL1193[11:50:20] <asie> Temia: you mean
autism.nbextension.download?
L1194[11:50:22] <asie> that is... not a
vhost
L1195[11:50:29] <Temia> Eh.
L1196[11:50:30] <asie> try it with a
browser
L1197[11:50:52] <Lizzy> @Forecaster
probably not, at least not on purpose anyway
L1198[11:50:53] <Lizzy> .gs
L1199[11:50:54] <EnderBot2> Ermm, Lizzy I
broked.. Plz fix
L1200[11:50:55] <EnderBot2> Error:
<type 'exceptions.ValueError'>: No JSON object could be
decoded
L1201[11:50:57] <Temia> I just assume all
non-ISP RDNSes are vhosts until proven otherwise.
L1202[11:51:16] <Lizzy> my rdns is a
non-isp one :P
L1203[11:51:19] *
AmandaC cuddles up around Temia protectively
L1204[11:51:30] <AmandaC> %roll 1d2
L1205[11:51:30] <MichiBot> [2] = 2
L1206[11:51:34] <Lizzy> oh
L1207[11:51:58] <Temia> Let me guess
though, Masto instance?
L1208[11:52:22] <Soni> Temia: huh?
L1209[11:52:22] <Temia> Ah, no, personal
site.
L1210[11:52:29] <Lizzy> github changed
their site around in the 4 years since i wrote that gs
command
L1211[11:52:41] <Temia> Disregard me, I'm
just meh
L1212[11:53:00] <Soni> sorry I was eating
I missed stuff
L1213[11:53:17] <Soni> was trying to
catch up
L1214[11:53:18] <Forecaster> how could they, curse you
GitHub!
<Forecaster> how could they, curse you
GitHub!L1215[11:53:20] *
Lizzy pokes Inari
L1216[11:53:29] <Inari> Meow
L1217[11:53:38] *
Lizzy presents EnderBot2
L1218[11:53:41] <Inari> Oh nice
L1219[11:53:46] <Inari> I forgot what it
does xD
L1220[11:53:58] <Lizzy> a bit of
crap
L1221[11:54:15] <Lizzy> used to keep
"bots" out of the channel but i turned that off ages ago
when we stopped getting them
L1222[11:54:18] <Lizzy> hmm
L1223[11:54:21] <Lizzy> .trivia
L1224[11:54:21] <EnderBot2> Ermm, Lizzy I
broked.. Plz fix
L1225[11:54:22] <EnderBot2> Error:
<class 'urllib2.HTTPError'>: HTTP Error 404: Not Found
L1226[11:54:25] <Lizzy> -_-
L1227[11:54:33] <Lizzy> .shutdown
L1228[11:54:33] <EnderBot2> Bye bye
L1229[11:54:33]
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L1230[11:54:40] <Lizzy> that one works at
least
L1231[11:54:46] <Forecaster> xD
<Forecaster> xDL1232[11:55:01] <Lizzy> anyway, that's
enough of EnderBot2
L1233[11:55:16] <Forecaster> time to sleep forever
now
<Forecaster> time to sleep forever
nowL1234[11:55:23] <Lizzy> yep
L1235[11:55:34] <Lizzy> just to remain as
an archived project on my gitlab
L1236[11:55:48] <Soni> is that an
extremely outdated bot
L1237[11:55:59] <Forecaster> you better belive it is
<Forecaster> you better belive it isL1238[11:56:02] <Forecaster> because it is
<Forecaster> because it isL1239[11:56:06] <Lizzy> yes
L1240[11:56:20] <Soni> heh
L1241[11:56:20] <Lizzy> last commit to
the repository was 4 years ago
L1242[11:56:31] <Soni> nice
L1243[11:56:51] <Soni> old software is
cool
L1244[11:56:59] <Lizzy> eh,
debatable
L1245[11:57:15] <Lizzy> i was working on
a replacement at some point but that never really happened cause i
kinda fell off irc around 3 years ago for a while
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L1247[11:58:16] <Lizzy> and in Enderbot's
3-4 year absense, MichiBot has come along a long way and can do
pretty much most of the stuff i would have put in EnderBot's
re-write
L1248[11:58:46] <Forecaster> and more, like the very
important tonk feature
<Forecaster> and more, like the very
important tonk featureL1249[11:58:50] <Soni> I like keeping old
versions of software around, especially if they're
exploitable
L1250[12:01:11] <Soni> I should setup
some bochs with those at some point for ppl to play with them and
stuff
L1252[12:03:44] <idfk>
any ideas?
<idfk>
any ideas?L1253[12:03:58] <idfk>
worked fine last night, now its refusing to boot
<idfk>
worked fine last night, now its refusing to bootL1254[12:05:21] <Inari> ~markov
EnderBot2
L1255[12:05:21] <ocdoc> Current OC time:
Fri Dec 12 08:58:34 2014
L1256[12:05:28] <Bob> i
don't know what halted does
<Bob> i
don't know what halted doesL1257[12:05:38] <Bob> i
know yielding is due to too slow loading / overload
<Bob> i
know yielding is due to too slow loading / overloadL1258[12:05:40] <Bob>
but not halts
<Bob>
but not haltsL1259[12:05:47] <Inari> halt is when your
program ends
L1260[12:05:59] <idfk>
well as soon as i turn it on i straight away get the beep sound
from the computer and a red flashing light, then instant blue
screen
<idfk>
well as soon as i turn it on i straight away get the beep sound
from the computer and a red flashing light, then instant blue
screenL1261[12:06:01] <Inari> (as in, the
EEPROM program)
L1262[12:06:03] <idfk>
almost like its out of power
<idfk>
almost like its out of powerL1263[12:06:15] <Bob>
then your eeprom ends
<Bob>
then your eeprom endsL1264[12:06:18] <Bob> it
never executes
<Bob> it
never executesL1265[12:06:21] <idfk>
weird.
<idfk>
weird.L1266[12:06:24] <idfk>
ill try replacing the eeprom
<idfk>
ill try replacing the eepromL1267[12:06:25] <Bob>
make a brand new EEPROM
<Bob>
make a brand new EEPROML1268[12:06:25] <AmandaC> What version of
OC
L1269[12:06:46] *
Inari parts AmandaC's fur in various places to find her version
number
L1270[12:06:49] <Bob>
~~why 1.7.10 also~~
<Bob>
~~why 1.7.10 also~~L1271[12:07:04] <AmandaC> pre-1.7.4 OC
has a bug that can cause that, which will also nuke the disks
inside it
L1272[12:07:14] <idfk>
o-o
<idfk>
o-oL1273[12:07:24] <Inari> Ah yeah
L1274[12:07:26] <idfk>
im on 1.7.3
<idfk>
im on 1.7.3L1275[12:07:38] <AmandaC> Ah, then you'll
have to update it to stop that from happening again
L1276[12:07:39] <Inari> pre-1.7.4 had a
chance of cosmic rays burning out your eeprom/disks
L1277[12:07:49] <AmandaC> unless you have
a backup the data is gone, too
L1278[12:07:56] <idfk>
;-;
<idfk>
;-;L1279[12:07:57] <Soni> heh
L1280[12:08:01] <idfk>
well replacing the eeprom didnt work.
<idfk>
well replacing the eeprom didnt work.L1281[12:08:01] <Inari> I actually liked
that feature
L1282[12:08:05] <Inari> Encouraged proper
backups
L1283[12:08:13] <Soni> does OC support
lightning?
L1284[12:08:24] <AmandaC> Inari:
"IT's not a race condition, it's a feature!"
L1285[12:08:49] <Lizzy> if by lightning
you mean harnessing power from it, then no
L1286[12:09:09] <Inari> There are mods
that do that iirc, and those can then feed the power to CO
L1287[12:09:10] <Inari> *OC
L1288[12:09:15] <Soni> I mean does an OC
computer hit by a lightning strike get fully blown?
L1289[12:09:27] <Lizzy> i don't think
so
L1290[12:09:46] <Temia> I mean, no worse
than any other block struck by lightning.
L1291[12:09:59] <Soni> aw
L1292[12:10:10] <Soni> oh remember
redpower computers that would catch fire?
L1293[12:10:26] <Lizzy> maybe
L1294[12:10:34] <Skye> Lizzy: that
"this is madness" thing made me remeber ocmadness
L1295[12:10:44] <Temia> It's been ages
since I touched anything with RedPower in it
L1296[12:10:44] <Lizzy> heh
L1297[12:10:56] <Temia> But honestly
antifeatures like that are not worth the trouble of
implementing
L1298[12:11:09] <Inari> red power 3
when
L1299[12:11:09] <Soni> I never tried
throwing lightning at a redpower computer
L1300[12:11:30] <Lizzy> the actual
inspiration behind the "this is madness" was from a gmod
server that i moderate
L1301[12:11:44] <Skye> Ooh.
L1302[12:11:47] <Skye> What
happened?
L1303[12:11:57] <Lizzy> ?
L1304[12:13:39] <Skye> Lizzy: I'm
curious
L1305[12:13:51] <Lizzy> about what
L1306[12:14:08] <Soni> but anyway, how
often is an OC computer gonna be up to 3 blocks away from a
lightning strike? how bad would it be to make lightning destroy
computers? why's it an "antifeature"?
L1307[12:17:12] <Vexatos> oh that was
actually part of my plans-I-never-got-to-implement involving radio
towers, satellites, and intercontinental data transmission
L1308[12:18:02] <Temia> It's an
antifeature because it literally adds nothing for a potentially
damaging catastrophe caused by freak chance.
L1309[12:18:18] <Temia> Also radio towers
sound nice.
L1310[12:18:25] <Temia> Wasn't there an
old-ass CC mod for that?
L1311[12:18:27] <Soni> okay
L1312[12:18:38] <Soni> what about office
shredders that can take HDDs?
L1313[12:18:51] <Inari> Lava takes
HDDs
L1314[12:19:02] <Forecaster> so does the disassembler
<Forecaster> so does the disassemblerL1315[12:19:14] <Temia> So do trash
cans.
L1316[12:19:18] <Soni> do those reclaim
the storage?
L1317[12:19:21] <Lizzy> Temia, i think
there was one for OC. OpenRadio possibly? i recall it also had some
laser stuff
L1318[12:19:27] <Temia> The disassembler
reclaims the parts.
L1319[12:19:28] <Vexatos> disassemblers
give you the parts back
L1320[12:19:42] <Temia> There are various
other ways to destroy the data while keeping the disk too.
L1321[12:19:49] <Vexatos> Lizzy, my idea
was way different to that
L1322[12:19:53] <Temia> Swapping between
managed and unmanaged mode, dropping it into a RAID>..
L1323[12:19:58] <Temia> Ahh
L1324[12:20:02] <Vexatos> and actually
theoretically trivial to implement, as in, the hard part of it is
already part of OC
L1325[12:20:14] <Lizzy> cool
L1326[12:20:18] <Vexatos> but I never had
the time or motivation to add four or five new blocks q_q
L1327[12:20:34] <Soni> dropping it into a
RAID?
L1328[12:20:37] <Temia> It would be nice
to revisit something like lowband wireless transmission
again.
L1329[12:20:47] <Temia> Yeah, disks put
into a RAID block are erased.
L1330[12:20:53] <Temia> As is the RAID
itself if disks are taken out.
L1331[12:20:56] <Vexatos> I was working
on that
L1332[12:21:00] <Vexatos> interference
was a thing too
L1333[12:21:06] <idfk>
well figured it out, its not my eeprom thats the problem its the
disk.
<idfk>
well figured it out, its not my eeprom thats the problem its the
disk.L1334[12:21:12] <Vexatos> it'd require
you to actually get radio protocols going
L1335[12:21:18] <idfk>
the disk has been nuked, and it crashes the eeprom
<idfk>
the disk has been nuked, and it crashes the eepromL1336[12:21:22] <Vexatos> as soon as you
are not the only one running on the band
L1337[12:21:38] <Vexatos> especially
considering the massive range it would have
L1338[12:21:39] <Lizzy> @idfk yeah, best
to update ASAP
L1339[12:21:47] <Vexatos> it'd basically
be an alternative to cheaty linked cards
L1340[12:21:49] <idfk>
yeah i cant, this is a server
<idfk>
yeah i cant, this is a serverL1341[12:21:59] <Temia> I'm guessing it
operates on a string buffer then?
L1342[12:22:05] <Temia> As opposed to
managed packets.
L1343[12:22:11] <Vexatos> not at
all
L1344[12:22:13] <Vexatos> it sends
packages
L1345[12:22:14] <Lizzy> @idfk :/ you
might want to alert the server owner
L1346[12:22:18] <Vexatos> but it sends
them to anyone on the band :P
L1347[12:22:34] <Vexatos> so you receive
a heck load of packages you really can't use
L1348[12:22:36] <idfk>
its a modpack, the id have to notify the developers and im pretty
sure they dont update anymore
<idfk>
its a modpack, the id have to notify the developers and im pretty
sure they dont update anymoreL1349[12:22:40] <Temia> So it's just
broadcast-only packets.
L1350[12:22:40] <idfk>
ill give it a try though
<idfk>
ill give it a try thoughL1351[12:22:45] <Temia> That's a
nonissue.
L1352[12:22:45] <Vexatos> intermingled
with the ones you actually want
L1353[12:22:50] <Vexatos> well
L1354[12:23:15] <Vexatos> and then actual
interference between packets arriving at the same time
L1355[12:23:50] <Soni> Vexatos: oh
cool
L1356[12:23:54] <Vexatos> I don't recall
all the details I've written them down somewhere
L1357[12:23:56] <Vexatos> but it was
cool
L1358[12:24:24] <Soni> so it would be
per-tick? or would it be possible to send multiple packets in a
tick?
L1359[12:25:03] <Vexatos> it would be
slightly slower
L1360[12:25:07] <Temia> Mm.
L1361[12:25:09] <Soni> also would it
support MIMO? :p
L1362[12:25:12] <Vexatos> especially on
the large antennas
L1363[12:25:32] <Temia> Maybe I'm just
out of touch with the community's trends.
L1364[12:25:38] <Vexatos> larger antenna
would allow larger wave lengths and longer distances
L1365[12:25:48] <Temia> But honestly
trying to implement interference in a high-level interface as
opposed to a low-level one seems... counterintuitive.
L1366[12:25:52] <Vexatos> (for
simplicity, strength would be directly linked to maximum wave
length)
L1367[12:26:14] <Soni> if I were doing it
I'd have propagation delays based on distance between
antennas
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L1369[12:26:17] <Vexatos> you'd basically
tell the radio station to send a packet
L1370[12:26:22] <Vexatos> and it'd start
throwing it into the air
L1371[12:26:23] <Soni> (no reflections
tho because lazy)
L1372[12:26:31] <Temia> It creates
problems that simply don't happen in reality because it's problems
of one networking layer being applied to a different one
L1373[12:26:35] <Soni> and interference
would just be xor
L1374[12:26:44] <Soni> it would allow
MIMO I think but idk
L1375[12:27:10] <Vexatos> the thing would
also consume a lot of power, and if you ever run out of power, part
of the packet just wouldn't get sent
L1376[12:27:33] <Vexatos> and you could
obviously continuously query the state of the transmission
L1377[12:28:24] <Vexatos> it'd be slow
and expensive but very long range, I'd like it to replace linked
cards for myself :P
L1378[12:28:47] <Soni> distance-based
interference would allow MIMO I think
L1379[12:28:55] <Soni> which would make
it much cooler
L1380[12:29:05] <Forecaster> what is MIMO
<Forecaster> what is MIMOL1381[12:29:32] <Soni> when you use
multiple antennas on the same band and use their interference
patterns to get n times the channel bandwidth of the band
L1382[12:29:35] <Soni> or something
L1383[12:30:41] <Soni> so if you can
send, say, 8 bytes per tick, with 8 antennas you can send *almost*
64 bytes per tick
L1384[12:31:07] <Soni> (you need to use
some space for error detection, error correction, and other framing
stuff, so it ends up being less. maybe 56 bytes per tick?)
L1385[12:31:43] <Soni> both sides need 8
antennas for it to work
L1386[12:32:37] <Vexatos> the tick limit
won't make interferometry possible >_>
L1387[12:33:05] <Inari> Introduce
sub-ticks
L1388[12:33:06] <Inari> ;D
L1389[12:33:16] <Vexatos> ...you mean
tocks
L1390[12:33:24] <Inari> %tonk
L1391[12:33:24] <MichiBot> I'm sorry
Inari, you were not able to beat asie's record of 1 hour, 47
minutes and 49 seconds this time. 1 hour, 11 minutes and 42 seconds
were wasted! Missed by 36 minutes and 7 seconds!
L1392[12:33:34] <Temia> That is an
absurdly low frequency if the antenna can only get one byte out per
tick.
L1393[12:33:41] <Temia> That's like ULW
submarine antennas.
L1394[12:33:53] <Vexatos> heh
L1395[12:34:35] <Temia> Keep in mind MC's
tick system is 20Hz. Most lowband systems are between
100KHz-1MHz
L1396[12:34:54] <Temia> Was that right?
*checks*
L1397[12:35:09] <Temia> It suddenly
doesn't sound right and I am horribly depressed and uncaffeinated
so I am unsure.
L1398[12:35:33] <Vexatos> yea it'll
probably be on the range of kHz transmission
L1399[12:35:52] <Temia> Ah, lowband is
considered 30-300KHz.
L1400[12:35:56] <Temia> So I was
off.
L1401[12:36:02] <Temia> Er, not lowband,
low frequency
L1402[12:36:15] <Temia> Fuck it, coffee
and breakup frozen yogurt break
L1403[12:36:34] <Temia> Band is something
else entirely and bluh bluh I am a dumb bitch
L1404[12:37:46] <Skye> Don't worry, I'm
dumber
L1405[12:38:11] <Temia> I'm not here to
get into a pissing contest over who's dumber.
L1406[12:38:14] <Temia> You are
FANTASTIC, Skye
L1407[12:38:27] <Temia> Don't let anyone
tell you otherwise.
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L1409[12:38:34] <Skye> Not even
myself?
L1410[12:38:41] <Lizzy> precisely!
L1411[12:38:46] <Temia> Especially not
yourself.
L1412[12:38:58] <Temia> Because that's
not really you, that's your depression talking.
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L1415[12:39:24] <Temia> And I should
really fucking practice what I preach but my emotions are a mess so
I'm giving myself a pass for precisely as long as people will
tolerate my whinging and no more
L1416[12:39:30] <Soni> Vexatos:
interferometry?
L1417[12:39:56] <Vexatos> Soni,
MIMO
L1418[12:40:01] *
Lizzy brushes Temia's tail tuft
L1419[12:40:02] <Soni> Vexatos: oh, why
not?
L1420[12:40:29] <AmandaC> Who's dissing
Skye? Skye? I'll kill them for dissing Skye!
L1421[12:40:37] <AmandaC> ( Sorry )
L1422[12:40:52] <Vexatos> because I have
better things to do in life than literally implementing the quantum
mechanical behaviour of light in Minecraft on a planck-second
level, thank you very much
L1423[12:41:02] <Inari> s/Skye!/Skye!
Skye!/
L1424[12:41:02] <MichiBot>
<AmandaC> Who's dissing Skye? Skye? I'll kill them for
dissing Skye! Skye!
L1425[12:41:03] <Soni> Vexatos: signals
propagate at 1 block per tick, directly adjacent (taxicab
distance)
L1426[12:41:54] <Soni> that means
newly-placed receivers don't receive in-transit signals but eh
w/e
L1427[12:41:57] *
AmandaC cuddles up around Temia to protecc, dispatches a clone to
cuddle Skye as well
L1428[12:42:35] <Lizzy> oh yeah, i was
gonna set up a new personal fileshare site thingy yesterday
L1429[12:42:37] <Soni> and 8 bytes aka 1
long (wait does java call them longs) per tick isn't a bad rate
IMO
L1430[12:46:58] <Forecaster> ...where's youtube hidden the
playlist stuff...
<Forecaster> ...where's youtube hidden the
playlist stuff...L1431[12:47:05] <Lizzy> it's hidden
L1432[12:47:23] <Soni> you don't need
quantum mechanics for interferometry in a game :p
L1433[12:47:26] <Forecaster> oh, it was in "Other
Features"
<Forecaster> oh, it was in "Other
Features"L1434[12:48:19] <Lizzy> ffs
L1435[12:48:26] <Lizzy> can't remember my
sudo pass for this server
L1436[12:48:42] <Forecaster> password manager?
<Forecaster> password manager?L1437[12:48:51] <Lizzy> it's not in there
this time
L1438[12:52:35] <Lizzy> hmmm
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L1440[12:57:07] <Lizzy> WHAT
L1441[12:57:08] <Lizzy> THE
L1442[12:57:09] <Lizzy> FUCK
L1443[12:57:23] <Lizzy> just tried a
password again and it worked this time!?
L1444[12:57:27] <Lizzy> bah,
whatever
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L1447[13:01:16] <Forecaster> hrm
<Forecaster> hrmL1448[13:01:27] <Forecaster> 239 GB of D&D session
recordings...
<Forecaster> 239 GB of D&D session
recordings...L1449[13:01:48]
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L1450[13:01:59] <Forecaster> I'm gonna have to upload these
to YouTube for storage just to free up space...
<Forecaster> I'm gonna have to upload these
to YouTube for storage just to free up space...L1451[13:03:22] <Forecaster> about 65 hours of footage
total
<Forecaster> about 65 hours of footage
totalL1452[13:04:05] <Forecaster> I wonder if YouTube preserves
the original mp4 file with the audio tracks and everything
<Forecaster> I wonder if YouTube preserves
the original mp4 file with the audio tracks and everythingL1453[13:04:16] <Forecaster> or if it only keeps the first
track
<Forecaster> or if it only keeps the first
trackL1454[13:04:51] <Lizzy> it probably
butchers it
L1455[13:05:40] <Forecaster> I need to test that, record a
short clip, upload it, then re-download the
"original"
<Forecaster> I need to test that, record a
short clip, upload it, then re-download the
"original"L1456[13:05:51] <Forecaster> and see if the audio tracks I
create in OBS are still there
<Forecaster> and see if the audio tracks I
create in OBS are still thereL1457[13:08:56] <Lizzy> hmm, which place
is my personal domain being hostesd on
L1458[13:09:30] <Forecaster> The moon?
<Forecaster> The moon?L1459[13:09:48] <Lizzy> ah, it's on
namecheap's dns
L1461[13:11:27] <Lizzy> https://files.theender.net/shx/zion/image0.jpg
L1462[13:11:54] <Lizzy> ... you okay
there laptop? what you randomly turning on for
L1463[13:13:02] <Forecaster> It's coughing
<Forecaster> It's coughingL1464[13:13:13] <Lizzy> oma why you
reject my requests to tunnel through?
L1465[13:13:18] *
Lizzy baps her dedi
L1466[13:13:36] <Lizzy> oh, using the
full hostname works
L1467[13:13:38] <Lizzy> whatever
L1468[13:15:07] <Forecaster> https://i.imgur.com/oLWLd9m.jpg I'm starting to
begin to have minor doubts about facts from Dave, but I'm staying
positive
<Forecaster> https://i.imgur.com/oLWLd9m.jpg I'm starting to
begin to have minor doubts about facts from Dave, but I'm staying
positiveL1469[13:20:17] <Lizzy> oh, i never set
up automation for my personal domain's cert reloading... oops
L1470[13:22:47] <AmandaC> %8ball
halucinate more?
L1471[13:22:47] <MichiBot> AmandaC: [ The
Bowling ball doesn't answer ]
L1472[13:23:01] *
AmandaC halucinates that it answers yes, because she's running out
of interrogation rooms
L1473[13:28:35] <Forecaster> https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20190730/14320442682/authors-take-copyright-so-seriously-they-hides-jokes-their-copyright-notices.shtml
<Forecaster> https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20190730/14320442682/authors-take-copyright-so-seriously-they-hides-jokes-their-copyright-notices.shtmlL1474[13:33:34] <Forecaster> nope
<Forecaster> nopeL1475[13:33:48] <Forecaster> YouTube mangles the file and
removes any additional tracks
<Forecaster> YouTube mangles the file and
removes any additional tracksL1476[13:34:09] <Forecaster> and reduced the size by more
than half
<Forecaster> and reduced the size by more
than halfL1477[13:34:30] <AmandaC> Time to buy a
new HDD!
L1478[13:35:18] <Forecaster> and I uploaded a 1080 video
but got a 720 one back...
<Forecaster> and I uploaded a 1080 video
but got a 720 one back...L1479[13:35:42] <Forecaster> I'd at least expected to get
the same resoltuion
<Forecaster> I'd at least expected to get
the same resoltuionL1480[13:35:54] <Forecaster> that explains the dramatic
size difference
<Forecaster> that explains the dramatic
size differenceL1481[13:36:29] <Forecaster> also dramatically reduced both
the video and audio bitrate
<Forecaster> also dramatically reduced both
the video and audio bitrateL1482[13:36:40] <AmandaC> I highly doubt
YouTube keeps theoriginal around
L1483[13:37:02] <AmandaC> at least not
once they've finished pre-processing it into a bunch of different
formats
L1484[13:37:02] <Forecaster> they don't obviously, or
they'd just give me that
<Forecaster> they don't obviously, or
they'd just give me thatL1485[13:37:33] <Forecaster> it's great that they don't
give you the highest resolution back
<Forecaster> it's great that they don't
give you the highest resolution backL1486[13:38:21] <AmandaC> It's probably
still being re-rendered into different formats with it's audio
tracks merged
L1487[13:39:50] <Forecaster> 1080 version is available to
watch
<Forecaster> 1080 version is available to
watchL1488[13:40:06] <Forecaster> but I only get the 720 one
when I download it
<Forecaster> but I only get the 720 one
when I download itL1489[13:40:53] <Forecaster> fortunately there are services
that let you download the higher resolution ones
<Forecaster> fortunately there are services
that let you download the higher resolution onesL1490[13:43:12] <Forecaster> oh, heh
<Forecaster> oh, hehL1491[13:43:28] <Forecaster> that might just take the 720
one and upscale it
<Forecaster> that might just take the 720
one and upscale itL1492[13:44:41] <Forecaster> well, now at least I know not
to upload and delete something I want to preserve
<Forecaster> well, now at least I know not
to upload and delete something I want to preserveL1493[13:57:00] <Lizzy> https://files.lizzian.uk/z/19-08-03_195632.png
new files site works!
L1494[13:57:25] <Forecaster> but lizzy, filesharing is
illegal, don't you know
<Forecaster> but lizzy, filesharing is
illegal, don't you knowL1495[14:02:11] <Lizzy> I wanna see if i
can put something together that registers files when they get put
in the folder, and then if they're not accessed for 90 days or so
(will be slightly longer than that maybe because of caching) it
then returns a 410 code instead of the file
L1496[14:03:48] <Lizzy> i also need to
re-do my "screenshotting" script to make it a bit
smarter
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L1498[14:05:51] <Lizzy> the bonus of my
lizzian.uk over my theender.net one (which is still staying for
now) is that the files for it are on my home server, so it'll work
with stuff like ShareX on my laptop because i don't use a bastion
host for my home server
L1499[14:08:39] <Lizzy> oh yeah, i havent
actually named my laptop yet
L1501[14:09:59] <Forecaster> woo
<Forecaster> wooL1502[14:11:07] <Soni> I need to make my
"screenshotting script" actually exist, at some
point
L1503[14:11:18] <Lizzian> gonna call my laptop
`Perileos`
<Lizzian> gonna call my laptop
`Perileos`L1504[14:11:34] <Lizzian> cause it sounds cool and it's
what a random name generator site put out
<Lizzian> cause it sounds cool and it's
what a random name generator site put outL1505[14:12:50] <Soni> at least I seem to
have fixed rsync eating half my website every time I run it
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L1508[14:41:39] <Lizzy> https://files.lizzian.uk/Perileos/Everlasting-193916.png
woop
L1509[14:41:51] <Lizzy> nvm
L1510[14:42:53] <Lizzy> https://files.lizzian.uk/Perileos/Peachpuff-793508.png
take 2?
L1511[14:42:59] <Lizzy> that works,
yay
L1512[14:43:15] <Lizzy> now to put my
laptop back to sleep till i need it again
L1513[14:43:16] <Forecaster> the matrix!
<Forecaster> the matrix!L1514[14:43:40] <Lizzian> yep
<Lizzian> yepL1515[14:44:10] <Lizzy> also ssh in
powershell, whilst possible, is kinda shit
L1516[14:44:39] <Forecaster> I've never used that
<Forecaster> I've never used thatL1517[14:44:54] <Forecaster> I use ssh in the built in
linux distro
<Forecaster> I use ssh in the built in
linux distroL1518[14:45:26] <Lizzy> yeah, that's what
i do at work
L1519[14:45:33] <Lizzy> when it's not
entirely broken
L1520[14:49:50] <asie> %tonk
L1521[14:49:50] <MichiBot> Fopdoodle!
asie! You beat your own previous record of 1 hour, 47 minutes and
49 seconds (By 28 minutes and 35 seconds)! I hope you're
happy!
L1522[14:49:51] <MichiBot> asie's new
record is 2 hours, 16 minutes and 25 seconds! No points gained for
stealing from yourself. (Lost out on 0.00048 x 2 = 0.00096)
L1523[14:50:17] <asie> wait no that's too
late i might be in bed, whatever
L1524[14:51:14] <asie> %tonkout
L1525[14:51:14] <MichiBot> I'm sorry
asie, you were not able to beat asie's record of 2 hours, 16
minutes and 25 seconds this time. 1 minute and 24 seconds were
wasted! Missed by 2 hours, 15 minutes and 1 second!
L1526[14:51:18] <asie> wait a scond
L1527[14:51:23] <asie> am i cursed
now
L1528[14:51:43] <Forecaster> cursed?
<Forecaster> cursed?L1529[14:51:49] <asie> ... waaaaait a
minute, does this mean i can just keep tonking out and nobody gets
the tonk?
L1530[14:51:50] <Forecaster> you can't tonk out now
no
<Forecaster> you can't tonk out now
noL1531[14:52:18] <asie> because i'm pretty
sure that if
L1532[14:52:19] <Forecaster> no because we will tell
MichiBot to ignore you if you abuse it
<Forecaster> no because we will tell
MichiBot to ignore you if you abuse itL1533[14:52:20] <asie> %tonk
L1534[14:52:20] <MichiBot> You still hold
the record asie, for now... 2 hours, 16 minutes and 25
seconds
L1535[14:52:28] <asie> yeah, i cannot
tonk, but i can tonkout
L1536[14:52:43] <asie> i think this
should be fixed so that trying to tonkout while holding the tonk
does not reset the timer
L1537[14:56:52] <Forecaster> that's intentional
<Forecaster> that's intentionalL1538[14:59:10] <Bob>
weird
<Bob>
weirdL1539[15:01:23] <Forecaster> tonk really shouldn't do it
either, I just left that in in the last overhaul I think
<Forecaster> tonk really shouldn't do it
either, I just left that in in the last overhaul I thinkL1540[15:02:51]
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Inari hoists Temia's tail tuft
L1542[15:19:41] <Inari> asie: You need to
be here more often
L1543[15:20:02] <asie> no
L1544[15:20:07] <Inari> :<
L1545[15:20:19] <Inari> I always have
things to link you, but you're neve rhere. And by the time you're
here I've forgotten about them!
L1546[15:20:34] <Forecaster> that's what tell is for
:P
<Forecaster> that's what tell is for
:PL1547[15:20:48] <Inari> Tell isn't
secure
L1548[15:21:15] <Forecaster> you didn't specify
secure
<Forecaster> you didn't specify
secureL1549[15:21:22] <Inari> I can /nick asie
and clear all the tell'd messages
L1550[15:21:25] <Inari> So they won't
arrive
L1551[15:21:33] <asie> e-mail me
L1552[15:22:00] <Forecaster> why would anyone bother to do
that though
<Forecaster> why would anyone bother to do
that thoughL1553[15:22:20] <Inari> Dunno, maybe
they're just trying to be a fake-asie and accidentally do so
L1554[15:22:36] <Inari> I need a delivery
gurantee you know
L1555[15:23:47] <Forecaster> use a bird to send
messages
<Forecaster> use a bird to send
messagesL1556[15:24:34] <Inari> I wish there was
an actual IPoAC service
L1557[15:26:03] <Forecaster> IPoCP
<Forecaster> IPoCPL1558[15:26:09] <Forecaster> IP over Carrier Pidgeon
<Forecaster> IP over Carrier PidgeonL1559[15:26:32] <Inari> Thats a subset of
IPoAC then
L1560[15:28:34] <Forecaster> packet drops due to predatory
birds
<Forecaster> packet drops due to predatory
birdsL1561[15:28:36] <Forecaster> or cats
<Forecaster> or catsL1562[15:28:48]
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L1564[15:28:56] <Inari> Or bird flu
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L1566[15:31:06] <dequbed> Inari: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/8248056.stm
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L1569[16:02:26] <Soni> memoserv?
L1570[16:03:26] <AmandaC> @Forecaster it
was added because some people kept "accidentally" tonking
too soon
L1571[16:03:36] <AmandaC> ISTR
anyway
L1572[16:12:01] <Inari> dequbed: I mean,
depends on what you call fast
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L1575[16:13:23] <AmandaC> Inari: you'll
never beat the bandwidth of a shipping container full of HDDs going
down the highway.
L1576[16:13:38] <Inari> AmandaC: Sure,
but the ping
L1577[16:13:38] <Inari> :D
L1578[16:14:50] <Soni> (am I the only
person who uses memoserv here?)
L1579[16:15:39] <AmandaC> bandwidth !=
latency. :P
L1580[16:16:30] <Soni> you'll never beat
the bandwidth of a shipping container full of 480GB microSD cards
going down the highway
L1581[16:17:19] <Soni> (you can fit like
80TB in the space of an 8TB external HDD)
L1582[16:20:45] <Soni> (I think 480GB is
about the limit for the things, but I'm not sure)
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L1585[16:43:16] <Forecaster> There'll be quite a delay
getting data off of three drives though
<Forecaster> There'll be quite a delay
getting data off of three drives thoughL1586[16:43:34] <Forecaster> There'll be quite a delay
getting data off of the drives though [Edited]
<Forecaster> There'll be quite a delay
getting data off of the drives though [Edited]L1587[16:44:55] <AmandaC> If the data's
formatted correctly on the hdds already, just loadin ghtem into a
rack-mounted storage thing would be sufficent
L1588[16:47:31] <AmandaC> And that just
requires a bunch of interns
L1589[16:57:08] <Forecaster> It'll still take a long time
to process a container full of hard drives for a variety of
reasons
<Forecaster> It'll still take a long time
to process a container full of hard drives for a variety of
reasonsL1590[17:00:09] <AmandaC> To copy the
data off, sure, to just use the data-inplace it'll be faster than
copying it over any network
L1591[17:14:58] <Inari> AmandaC: Let us
speak about our lord and savior vertical taskbar
L1592[17:16:19] <AmandaC> Inari:
amen
L1593[17:17:58] <Inari> AmandaC: Oh, you
use them too? :p
L1594[17:18:05] <AmandaC> on my windows
rig, yes. :P
L1595[17:18:18] <Inari> Hhee
L1596[17:19:44] <AmandaC> on my laptop I
use Material Shell these daya
L1597[17:22:24] *
Inari brushes AmandaC
L1598[17:22:51] *
AmandaC purrs softly. :3
L1599[17:23:04] *
Inari sets aside the combed/brushed out fur
L1600[17:23:36] *
AmandaC eyes Inari warialy
L1601[17:23:57] <Inari> Well as said, I'm
curious how a rope made from cat hair would feel!
L1602[17:24:12] <AmandaC> You know it'll
despawn in 48h right?
L1603[17:24:19] <Inari> D: how
mean!
L1604[17:25:06] <AmandaC> I'm not wasting
compute resources on simulating hair that I've discarded
L1605[17:25:23] <Skye> Aw
L1606[17:25:30] *
Skye gives AmandaC more computer power
L1607[17:25:36] <Inari> %pet Skye
L1608[17:25:41] *
MichiBot brushes Skye with ca-CHING. 1 health gained!
L1609[17:26:40] <Skye> ??
L1610[17:29:35] <Soni> do they make RAID
enclosures that can take 1 million microSD cards yet?
L1611[17:31:00] <Skye> Probably
not.
L1612[17:35:00] <Inari> Trucks are so
2015
L1613[17:35:10] <Inari> What we really
need is steel-wire guided rockets
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L1617[18:09:20] <Izaya> Temia++
L1618[18:09:21] <MichiBot> Izaya: Temia
now has 72.0 points
L1619[18:09:36] <Temia> ok.
L1620[18:12:12] <Izaya> For something
long previous :p
L1621[18:12:29] <The_Stargazer> ubuntu's vertical taskbar
is big stupid
<The_Stargazer> ubuntu's vertical taskbar
is big stupidL1622[18:13:19] <Skye> %points
L1623[18:13:19] <MichiBot> Skye: skyem123
has 9223372036854779997 points
L1624[18:16:25] <The_Stargazer> I mean I *could* restart
and use Cinnamon but I cba
<The_Stargazer> I mean I *could* restart
and use Cinnamon but I cbaL1625[18:23:17] <asie> Inari:
%points
L1626[18:23:19] <asie> err
L1627[18:23:21] <asie> %points
L1628[18:23:21] <MichiBot> asie: asie has
12884903225.0 points
L1629[18:23:57] <The_Stargazer> that's a lotta points
<The_Stargazer> that's a lotta pointsL1630[18:25:05] <Vexatos> Did someone say
cinnamon? :U
L1631[18:25:28] <Vexatos> Mint 19.2 cut
down the RAM usage on desktop by another 30%, very nice
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L1633[18:29:37] <The_Stargazer> thank goodness I didn't
delete my id_rsa file on my USB
<The_Stargazer> thank goodness I didn't
delete my id_rsa file on my USBL1634[18:29:37] <The_Stargazer> even though it was only
used to convert it to PuTTY format, it proved useful earlier
because iirc `ssh` cannot read .ppk files
<The_Stargazer> even though it was only
used to convert it to PuTTY format, it proved useful earlier
because iirc `ssh` cannot read .ppk filesL1635[18:29:56] <The_Stargazer> and I just gave it
id_rsa
<The_Stargazer> and I just gave it
id_rsaL1636[18:30:30] <Skye> asie++
L1637[18:30:30] <MichiBot> Skye: asie now
has 12884903226.0 points
L1638[18:31:00] <Bob>
%points
<Bob>
%pointsL1639[18:31:01] <MichiBot> Bob: null has
0 points
L1640[18:31:02] <The_Stargazer> (after `cp
/media/ubuntu/blah/P2K/id_rsa id_rsa` then `chmod id_rsa
400`)
<The_Stargazer> (after `cp
/media/ubuntu/blah/P2K/id_rsa id_rsa` then `chmod id_rsa
400`)L1641[18:31:09] <The_Stargazer> %points
<The_Stargazer> %pointsL1642[18:31:10] <MichiBot> The_Stargazer:
%points has 0 points
L1643[18:31:18] <The_Stargazer> ?
<The_Stargazer> ?L1644[18:48:59] <Temia> MichiBot is a
solidly coded and bug-free bot
L1645[18:56:07] <Bob>
Obviously
<Bob>
ObviouslyL1646[19:00:25]
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L1647[19:01:21] <The_Stargazer> ubuntu why are you thinking
the time is 12:01 AM
<The_Stargazer> ubuntu why are you thinking
the time is 12:01 AML1648[19:01:22] <The_Stargazer> when it's 12:01 PM
<The_Stargazer> when it's 12:01 PML1649[19:01:28] <The_Stargazer> is the time in utc or
something
<The_Stargazer> is the time in utc or
somethingL1650[19:02:03] <CompanionCube>
%tonk
L1651[19:02:03] <MichiBot> Avada Kedavra!
CompanionCube! You beat asie's previous record of 2 hours, 16
minutes and 25 seconds (By 1 hour, 54 minutes and 23 seconds)! I
hope you're happy!
L1652[19:02:04] <Lizzy> UTS is currently
00:02
L1653[19:02:04] <MichiBot>
CompanionCube's new record is 4 hours, 10 minutes and 48 seconds!
CompanionCube also gained 0.00573 (0.00191 x 3) tonk points for
stealing the tonk.
L1654[19:02:09] <Lizzy> *UTC
L1655[19:07:45] <Bob>
^
<Bob>
^L1656[19:07:47] <Bob>
GMT
<Bob>
GMTL1657[19:16:26] <Kodos>
Anyone subbed to humble monthly?
<Kodos>
Anyone subbed to humble monthly?L1658[19:33:42]
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L1659[19:34:45] <PrismaticYT> Izaya: from
the screenshots on the site, MultiMC appears to display all
profiles (and organizes them into what looks like folders) - is
this an actual feature?
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L1662[19:47:10] <Lizzy> multimc has
"categories" which are kinda similar i guess
L1663[19:51:24] <PrismaticYT> so I can
organize my profiles into them? neat
L1664[19:51:36] <Lizzy> yup
L1665[19:52:46] <PrismaticYT> great, now
the question is which DE is the most lightweight
L1666[19:53:25] <PrismaticYT> and won't
eat all of my 2GB RAM in like ten minutes
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L1669[19:59:20] <Kodos>
I'm pretty sure any of them will tbh
<Kodos>
I'm pretty sure any of them will tbhL1670[19:59:49] <PrismaticYT> i love how
that an AMD Athlon 64 has twice the speed of "my"
laptop's processor
L1671[20:00:11] <PrismaticYT> 2.8GHz
compared to 1.10GHz
L1672[20:01:01] <CompanionCube> the most
lightweight DE is not a DE
L1673[20:01:17] <CompanionCube> they
don't mesh terribly well.
L1674[20:02:24] <PrismaticYT> ?
L1675[20:02:32] <PrismaticYT>
unfortunately no DE is not an option
L1676[20:02:57] <PrismaticYT> although
when I upgrade the RAM from 2GB to 4GB or possibly more it won't
really matter
L1677[20:03:20] <PrismaticYT> afk
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L1684[20:45:08] <AmandaC> %tell Inari
this could be us, but you playing https://i.imgur.com/A98hJlF.gifv
L1685[20:45:09] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Inari
will be notified of this message when next seen.
L1686[20:45:36] *
AmandaC curls up around Temia, dozes
L1687[20:45:40] <AmandaC> Night
nerds
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L1690[21:06:54] <Izaya> The_Stargazer:
lightest DE is no DE
L1691[21:07:56] <Izaya> before I stuck
8GB in my laptop, to do Minecraft I'd log out of XFCE and switch to
wmaker
L1692[21:20:12] <The_Stargazer> Izaya: cinnamon runs fine
on this by the way
<The_Stargazer> Izaya: cinnamon runs fine
on this by the wayL1693[21:20:43] <Izaya> how much memory
does it use idling, out of curiosity?
L1694[21:20:52] <The_Stargazer> currently 92MB
<The_Stargazer> currently 92MBL1695[21:21:05] <Izaya> The system
overall
L1696[21:21:12] <The_Stargazer> oh uh
<The_Stargazer> oh uhL1697[21:21:25] <The_Stargazer> rn 1.2GiB
<The_Stargazer> rn 1.2GiBL1698[21:22:13] <The_Stargazer> (with no swap space)
<The_Stargazer> (with no swap space)L1699[21:22:23] <Izaya> Eh, about 800M
more than XFCE and 1G more than no DE, but it's an
improvement
L1700[21:22:55] <The_Stargazer> so wait, with XFCE what's
the standard idle memory usage?
<The_Stargazer> so wait, with XFCE what's
the standard idle memory usage?L1701[21:23:16] <Izaya> I boot to
400-600M
L1702[21:23:37] <The_Stargazer> rn firefox is using about
500MB
<The_Stargazer> rn firefox is using about
500MBL1703[22:28:27] <Kodos>
I need two weeks to pass overnight plskthx
<Kodos>
I need two weeks to pass overnight plskthxL1704[22:43:50] <Temia> I should see
about finding a way to use my huge pages when Windows isn't taking
them up
L1705[22:43:57] <Temia> Just having 8GBs
sitting there doing nothing isn't very fun .w.
L1706[22:44:38] <Temia> But there's also
the issue of how to reallocate them to regular pages when I need to
boot Windows...
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L1708[22:57:00] <PrismaticYT> so it turns
out ubuntu doesn't like me running chmod +x on the files on my
usb
L1709[22:57:18] <Izaya> filesystem
probably doesn't support metadata
L1710[22:57:33] <PrismaticYT> it's
FAT
L1711[22:57:38] <PrismaticYT> to be
specific, FAT32
L1712[22:57:49] <PrismaticYT> because I
forgot to format it to either exFAT or NTFS
L1713[22:58:17] <Izaya> so it supports no
metadata
L1714[22:58:21] <Izaya> safe for
filename
L1715[22:58:35] <PrismaticYT> my solution
was to put the MultiMC binary and runscript on the
"drive" and everything else on my USB.
L1716[22:59:07] <PrismaticYT> is there a
less hacky method for storing the game's assets and everything else
on a different drive
L1717[22:59:39] <Izaya> but why
L1718[23:00:34] <PrismaticYT> also I
decided to put a 500MiB swapfile on my USB
L1719[23:00:35] <PrismaticYT> which is
highly likely
L1720[23:00:35] <PrismaticYT> just in
case I run out of memory
L1721[23:00:51] <Izaya> the worst place
to put a swap file but okay
L1722[23:01:06] <PrismaticYT> why
what?
L1723[23:01:18] <PrismaticYT> why put a
swapfile on the usb?
L1724[23:01:29] <Izaya> no
L1725[23:01:30] <PrismaticYT> nowhere
else to put it
L1726[23:01:38] <Izaya> why store
MultiMC's data on a different drive
L1727[23:01:54] <PrismaticYT> so I can
fit the game's assets and data
L1728[23:02:09] *
Izaya squints
L1729[23:02:22] <Izaya> but if you're
setting +x you're not dealing with that shitbox laptop
L1730[23:02:26] <PrismaticYT> because the
tiny "cow" (assuming copy-on-write) filesystem on the CD
isn't enough to store a 1.12.2 install
L1731[23:02:27] <Izaya> so in theory you
have nonzero storage
L1732[23:03:13] <PrismaticYT> no
HDD
L1733[23:03:26] <PrismaticYT> and also
I'll eventually have to switch back to the laptop
L1734[23:03:44] <Izaya> ah, and you have
an in-RAM filesystem to work with
L1735[23:03:56] <PrismaticYT> a
ramdisk?
L1736[23:04:03] <Izaya> kinda yeah
L1737[23:04:21] <Izaya> less a RAM disk
and more a filesystem cache that never gets flushed
L1738[23:05:38] <PrismaticYT> also this
computer has no speaker which is annoying
L1739[23:05:53] <PrismaticYT> right
L1740[23:06:00] <PrismaticYT> but it's
still stored in RAM?
L1741[23:06:04] <Izaya> yup
L1742[23:06:18] <Izaya> difference is
that there's no block device it's backed onto
L1743[23:06:25] <Izaya> so it can use
more or less RAM as necessary
L1744[23:06:30] <Izaya> rather than being
statically allocated
L1745[23:06:40] <Izaya> (and emulating a
block device in memory)
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L1747[23:11:07] <CompanionCube>
obligatory 'why fat32, ever'
L1748[23:11:17] <CompanionCube> oh,
they're gone, oh well
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L1752[23:28:10] <CompanionCube>
%tonkout
L1753[23:28:11] <MichiBot> Goshhawk!
CompanionCube! You beat your own previous record of 4 hours, 10
minutes and 48 seconds (By 15 minutes and 17 seconds)! I hope
you're happy!
L1754[23:28:12] <MichiBot> CompanionCube
has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.004 tonk points!
plus 0.006 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score:
0.8538