L1[00:11:20] <Izaya> wireless cards can talk
to wires
L2[00:14:30] <payonel> lopezt: yes
L3[00:14:38] <payonel> careful though with
the response
L4[00:14:45] <payonel> the wireless card
tier 2 will get both
L5[00:15:00] <lopezt> i am using a
relay
L6[00:15:18] <lopezt> 2 computer, 1 with
wlan one with wired
L7[00:15:36] <lopezt> both are connected
with cables which through a relay
L8[00:15:42] <lopezt> and they cant talk to
each other
L9[00:16:12] <lopezt> on modem.broadcast
nothing triggers events on the other computer in both
directions
L10[00:16:20] <payonel> what is the
send/broadcast command you are using?
L11[00:16:35] <lopezt>
component.modem.broadcast(port, "message")
L12[00:16:52] <payonel> and what is the
port?
L13[00:17:00] <lopezt> 400
L14[00:17:13] <payonel> and did you run
component.modem.open(400) on the other machine first?
L15[00:17:20] <lopezt> yes
L16[00:17:27] <payonel> then it should work
:)
L17[00:17:33] <payonel> is this on a
server?
L18[00:17:59] <Izaya> is the card tier
2?
L19[00:18:01] <lopezt> one is a server, the
other a normal computer
L20[00:18:02] <Izaya> this is
important
L21[00:18:13] <lopezt> its a tier 2
card
L22[00:18:24] <Izaya> is the rack internal
switch turned on
L23[00:18:24] <payonel> and which side of
the server does the cable connect?
L24[00:18:34] <lopezt> then i tried the
stuff from the network loot disk
L25[00:18:40] <payonel> Izaya: the
internals will receive the message either way
L26[00:18:48] <lopezt> and as soon as i
switched from the wireless to a network card it worked
L27[00:19:03] <lopezt> so i mean when both
have a network card
L28[00:19:08] <payonel> lopezt: the one in
the rack, is that wifi or network?
L29[00:19:15] <lopezt> network
L30[00:19:27] <payonel> and which is of the
rack is the blade using network?
L31[00:19:44] <Izaya> payonel: wait really
you receive messages from all sides even when the switch is turned
off and it's not connected?
L32[00:19:57] <payonel> no, when a blade is
connected on that side
L33[00:20:12] <lopezt> thats not the issue,
the server is meanwhile communicating with another computer which
has also a network card
L34[00:20:42] <payonel> lopezt: are you
hosting the world?
L35[00:20:48] <lopezt> its a sp world
L36[00:20:59] <payonel> can you export it?
is this mmc?
L37[00:21:10] <lopezt> yes
L38[00:21:30] <lopezt> ok, let me see if i
might have missed something, but for sure i can export the
world
L39[00:21:37] <payonel> Izaya: you should
be able to switch the rack to internal (relay disabled) and that
just means the rack won't repeat the messages beyond the rack
L40[00:21:49] <Izaya> right that's how you
do routers
L41[00:22:24] <payonel> lopezt: cool. i'd
be happy to review
L42[00:22:41] <payonel> lopezt:
preferrably, give me a test script to run, so i dont do something
you're not
L43[00:22:55] <Izaya> once I get this
fuarkin work out of the way I need to get back into actually
playing Minecraft
L44[00:23:13] <Izaya> wanna expand my
network beyond one router
L45[00:23:25] 
<Forecaster>
%tonk
<Forecaster>
%tonkL46[00:23:26] <MichiBot> Jiminy Cricket!
Forecaster! You beat Kodos's previous record of <0 (By 50
minutes and 59 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L47[00:23:27] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new
record is 50 minutes and 59 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.00085
tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L48[00:24:13] <payonel> lopezt: if you need
a drop folder to upload it to, that's fine
L49[00:25:03] <lopezt> so i checked it
again, its still that network and wireless dont communicate
L50[00:25:21] <lopezt> i checked the
wireless with a robot also having a wireless and its working
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L52[00:25:40] <lopezt> the server
communicates with another computer via network card also fine
L53[00:25:49] <lopezt> but wireless and
network dont communicate
L54[00:26:28] <Bob> they
do, you just cant make a relay
<Bob> they
do, you just cant make a relayL55[00:26:41] <Bob> use
the already included relay block
<Bob> use
the already included relay blockL56[00:26:41] <lopezt> so what i need is
just the world under save in the minecraft folder
L57[00:26:51] <payonel> can't make a relay?
sure you can
L58[00:28:27] <payonel> lopezt: no, i need
your mods too
L59[00:28:33] <payonel> export the whole of
it
L60[00:28:42] <payonel> i can provide a
private drop folder for you, if you'd lke
L61[00:30:51] <lopezt> there are only 2
mods on it, ender io and oc
L62[00:31:16] <payonel> but i need the
exact mod and config set youre using, just in case
L63[00:31:23] <payonel> so a more complete
export is more helpful
L64[00:31:37] <Bob> how
can you play OC with nothing
<Bob> how
can you play OC with nothingL65[00:31:47] <Bob> theres
nothing to automate even hecc
<Bob> theres
nothing to automate even heccL66[00:32:02] <payonel> @bob you can
automate vanilla actions of course
L67[00:32:12] <payonel> you can use robots
like quarries, and robots to auto sort, auto smelt, etc
L68[00:32:25] <lopezt> ok i got the mods in
it as well
L69[00:32:31] <lopezt> where should i
upload it too?
L70[00:32:50] <payonel> i'll grab you a
folder, one minute
L71[00:33:18] <lopezt> these mods are
absolutly untouched
L72[00:34:00] <Izaya> how do I clone a git
repo but discard the .git data?
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L74[00:34:52] <Bob> eurgh
vanilla lol
<Bob> eurgh
vanilla lolL75[00:34:55] <Bob>
lagilla
<Bob>
lagillaL76[00:35:10] <lopezt> the only thing i did
change is the filesystem.bufferchanges config in the
applications.conf of oc
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L78[00:35:25] <lopezt> git export something
or archive
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L81[00:36:10] <payonel> git export? i dont
know what that is. but an mmc export
L82[00:36:15] <payonel> i want an mmc
export
L83[00:36:26] <Bob> mmc
mmm
<Bob> mmc
mmmL84[00:36:44] <Bob> Get
railcraft and computronics ans automate it tm
<Bob> Get
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L86[00:37:44] <lopezt> git-archive is what
you looking for
L87[00:37:51] <lopezt> +are
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L89[00:38:14] <Izaya> argh, doesn't support
just exporting a tree
L90[00:38:20] <Izaya> don't really want to
tar then untar it
L91[00:38:59] <lopezt> Izaya: but i am not
sure if git-archive works remotly
L92[00:39:59] <payonel> lopezt: what does
git have to do with this?
L93[00:40:13] <payonel> i'm familiar with
tar, zip, rar, etc
L94[00:40:26] <payonel> i use git for code,
never heard of archiving with git
L95[00:40:29] <Bob> rar
mods and config folder then send
<Bob> rar
mods and config folder then sendL96[00:40:39] <payonel> also, i hate
rar
L97[00:40:46] <payonel> just use mmc to
export
L98[00:40:48] <Izaya> payonel: I asked
about it
L99[00:40:51] <payonel> then mmc can
happily import
L100[00:41:13] <lopezt> payonel: he wanted
to know how you extract just the source from a git repo without the
.git
L101[00:45:07] <payonel> lopezt: thanks,
downloadin
L102[00:45:58] <lopezt> its a mmc 1.12
world, not sure if this is extractable from the contents
L103[00:47:13] <payonel> it is if you
exported via mmc :)
L104[00:47:33] <lopezt> some deployment
systems use git or rather abuse git as deployment feature, there
git-archive is often used to deploy code
L105[00:47:51] <lopezt> no i just did a
tar on the world and the mods
L106[00:47:58] <payonel> lopezt: why
didn't you use mmc?
L107[00:48:00] <payonel> i dont have your
configs
L108[00:48:07] <payonel> meh, i dont
understand ppl
L109[00:48:18] <payonel> also dont have
your forge version
L110[00:48:26] <lopezt> ok
L111[00:48:26] <payonel> so i set up to
use your repro, and i might change something :P
L112[00:48:30] <payonel> look, i'll set it
up
L113[00:48:34] <payonel> hopefully i'll
see what you saw
L114[00:48:43] <payonel> just saying, i
have my reasons for repro details :)
L115[00:52:00] <Izaya> git archive piped
into tar xv works well enough I guess
L116[00:52:03] <Izaya> messy but oh
well
L117[00:53:50] <lopezt> i am uploading an
mmc export now
L118[00:55:15] <Izaya> yay, my gopher
export script no longer chokes if the user deletes their gopherhole
repo
L119[00:55:22] <Izaya>
gopher://lain.church
L120[00:56:14] <payonel> lopezt: works
fine :)
L121[00:56:42] <lopezt> ok
L122[00:56:54] <payonel> lopezt: lets call
your server blade, A
L123[00:56:59] <payonel> and the computer
case, B
L124[00:57:00] <lopezt> what works fine,
the export or the broadcast?
L125[00:57:11] <payonel> the modems
work
L126[00:57:40] <lopezt> yeah, which
computers did you use?
L127[00:57:46] <payonel> A's modem port
400 is open, B's is closed. if B sends to A, or broadcasts, on port
400, A gets the message
L128[00:58:51] <lopezt> there is a server
rack, next to 2 different computers
L129[00:59:02] <lopezt> and then there is
a computer a little bit abroad of all of them
L130[00:59:32] <lopezt> the server rack
with the first server has a network card
L131[00:59:48] <lopezt> the computer which
is a little bit abroad of them uses a wirless card
L132[01:01:47] <payonel> lopezt: can i
host the world and you join? do you have a headset?
L133[01:02:44] <lopezt> so i did try it
again and its working only from the wirless one to the network
one
L134[01:03:24] <payonel> so is it just
wireless to wired you're having trouble with?
L135[01:04:09] <lopezt> try to send a
message from the server via broadcast to the wireless card
computer
L136[01:06:05] <lopezt> did you?
L137[01:06:13] <lopezt> i can join
sure
L138[01:06:28] <payonel> i'd be happy to
host, but one sec, i'll test what you said
L139[01:07:03] <payonel> btw, i see on
your wireless machine, you're running a while loop to print
events
L140[01:07:17] <payonel> you should try
`dmesg` on the shell
L141[01:07:19] <payonel> (not in lua
L142[01:07:21] <lopezt> yes, its a command
server for robots
L143[01:07:21] <payonel> )
L144[01:07:48] <lopezt> he is printing it
only when he cant dispatch the message, what occurs when you send
random messages
L145[01:08:49] <lopezt> oh dmesg is
nice
L146[01:13:45] <payonel> lopezt: yeah, i
keep forgetting that the wired to wireless t2 issue was a
regression in 1.7.4
L147[01:13:47] <payonel> and fixed
after
L148[01:13:50] <payonel> lopezt: i
apologize
L149[01:13:58] <payonel> you'll need to
use a dev build for that fix
L150[01:14:07] <payonel> (or 1.7.5 when it
comes out)
L151[01:14:44] <payonel> build >= 166
will have it
L152[01:14:50] <payonel> https://ci.cil.li/job/OpenComputers-MC1.12/changes
L153[01:14:58] <payonel> 1. fixed t2
wireless cards NOT getting wired msgs
L154[01:15:47] <lopezt> so i found a bug
which is already solved ^^
L155[01:16:54] <lopezt> i just was not
sure if this is the regular behaviour or not
L156[01:18:25] <Kodos>
%tonk
<Kodos>
%tonkL157[01:18:26] <MichiBot> Aw jeez! Kodos!
You beat Forecaster's previous record of 50 minutes and 59 seconds
(By 3 minutes and 59 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L158[01:18:27] <MichiBot> Kodos's new
record is 54 minutes and 59 seconds! Kodos also gained 0.00007 tonk
points for stealing the tonk.
L159[01:19:16] <lopezt> what is this tonk
thing?
L160[01:19:21] <lopezt> %tonk
L161[01:19:31] <lopezt> oh lol
L162[01:31:13] <lopezt> is there a way i
can get the require path of a class?
L163[01:31:27] <lopezt> i found only a
solution to get it from objects
L164[01:35:00] <CompanionCube> Izaya: heh,
/me sniffed around the gopherhole
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L166[02:18:02] <Ariri>
%tonk
<Ariri>
%tonkL167[02:18:03] <MichiBot> Fopdoodle!
Ariri! You beat Kodos's previous record of 54 minutes and 59
seconds (By 4 minutes and 37 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L168[02:18:04] <MichiBot> Ariri's new
record is 59 minutes and 36 seconds! Ariri also gained 0.00008 tonk
points for stealing the tonk.
L169[02:18:29] <Ariri>
%stab Ariri
<Ariri>
%stab AririL170[02:18:30] *
MichiBot stabs Ariri with a roll of cats - fresh from the factory
doing 4 damage
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L173[02:20:39] <Ariri> %s/a
roll of cats/catgirls
<Ariri> %s/a
roll of cats/catgirlsL174[02:20:50] <Ariri>
heck
<Ariri>
heckL175[02:28:40] ⇦
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L176[02:52:33] <Zef> %sip
random
<Zef> %sip
randomL177[02:52:34] <MichiBot> You drink a ripe
aether potion (New!). The bottle turns into a spear.
L178[02:52:54] <Zef> Oh yes
I love being impaled
<Zef> Oh yes
I love being impaledL179[03:09:27] <TheFox> I
bet you do
<TheFox> I
bet you doL180[03:09:37] <TheFox>
pfft... furries
<TheFox>
pfft... furriesL181[03:10:34]
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L182[03:19:27] <Forecaster>
Said the fox
<Forecaster>
Said the foxL183[03:22:34] <TheFox>
Dont fight me with logic
<TheFox>
Dont fight me with logicL184[03:22:43] <TheFox> It
works too well, I always loose
<TheFox> It
works too well, I always looseL185[03:33:38] <Bob>
b
<Bob>
bL186[04:00:12] ⇦
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L187[04:33:58] <baschdel> %tonk
L188[04:33:58] <MichiBot> Waesucks!
baschdel! You beat Ariri's previous record of 59 minutes and 36
seconds (By 1 hour, 16 minutes and 19 seconds)! I hope you're
happy!
L189[04:33:59] <MichiBot> baschdel's new
record is 2 hours, 15 minutes and 55 seconds! baschdel also gained
0.00127 tonk points for stealing the tonk.
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L192[06:54:47] <Lizzy> %tonkout
L193[06:54:48] <MichiBot> Willikers!
Lizzy! You beat baschdel's previous record of 2 hours, 15 minutes
and 55 seconds (By 4 minutes and 53 seconds)! I hope you're
happy!
L194[06:54:49] <MichiBot> Lizzy has stolen
the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.002 tonk points!
plus 0.001 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50%
because stealing) Current score: 0.39473
L195[06:54:59] <Lizzy> %tonkleaders
L196[06:55:00] <MichiBot> Lizzy: https://michibot.pc-logix.com/tonk
L197[06:58:25] <Forecaster>
5tonk
<Forecaster>
5tonkL198[06:58:28] <Forecaster>
%tonk
<Forecaster>
%tonkL199[06:58:28] <MichiBot> Dagnammit!
Forecaster! You beat Lizzy's previous record of <0 (By 3 minutes
and 40 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L200[06:58:29] <Forecaster>
dangit
<Forecaster>
dangitL201[06:58:29] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new
record is 3 minutes and 40 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.00006
tonk points for stealing the tonk.
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L203[07:47:20] <bauen1> %tonk
L204[07:47:20] <MichiBot> Aw jeez! bauen1!
You beat Forecaster's previous record of 3 minutes and 40 seconds
(By 45 minutes and 10 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L205[07:47:21] <MichiBot> bauen1's new
record is 48 minutes and 51 seconds! bauen1 also gained 0.00075
tonk points for stealing the tonk.
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L208[08:15:17] <bad at
vijya> toptier name
<bad at
vijya> toptier nameL209[08:17:08] <bad at
vijya> i too use `string.format(string.rep("%.2x", 8),
unpack(io.open("/dev/urandom","rb"):read(8):byte(1,
8)))` to generate my usernames
<bad at
vijya> i too use `string.format(string.rep("%.2x", 8),
unpack(io.open("/dev/urandom","rb"):read(8):byte(1,
8)))` to generate my usernamesL210[08:18:23] <descention>
theoretically, it's possible to control a robot via internet,
correct?
<descention>
theoretically, it's possible to control a robot via internet,
correct?L211[08:19:01] <Forecaster>
Yep
<Forecaster>
YepL212[08:19:03] <Izaya> sure
L213[08:19:15] <descention>
oh, nvm. I just didn't use the right search term before
<descention>
oh, nvm. I just didn't use the right search term beforeL214[08:19:18] <Forecaster>
If you make it check a server for instructions
<Forecaster>
If you make it check a server for instructionsL215[08:19:31] <Forecaster>
You can't send to it directly
<Forecaster>
You can't send to it directlyL216[08:19:45] <Bob> u n p
a c k bruh
<Bob> u n p
a c k bruhL217[08:20:17] <Bob> ive
rewrote an unpack in vanilla lua and its 20 times faster
<Bob> ive
rewrote an unpack in vanilla lua and its 20 times fasterL218[08:20:30] <Izaya> unpack?
L219[08:21:11] <Bob> unpack
function
<Bob> unpack
functionL220[08:21:13] <Bob>
unpack(table)
<Bob>
unpack(table)L221[08:21:22]
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L222[08:21:31] <Izaya> oh, table.unpack or
something
L223[08:21:42] <descention>
I'm gonna look into dunstad/roboserver
<descention>
I'm gonna look into dunstad/roboserverL224[08:22:43] <Izaya> oh hey I forgot
about that one
L226[08:23:39] <Bob> like
that or something
<Bob> like
that or somethingL228[08:24:05] <Bob> works
aswell for non arrays
<Bob> works
aswell for non arraysL229[08:24:09] <Bob> using
next instead of p + 1
<Bob> using
next instead of p + 1L230[08:44:23]
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L233[09:16:45] <bauen1> how is the lua
implementation faster than the C implementation o_O
L234[09:16:57] <bauen1> %tonk
L235[09:16:57] <MichiBot> Dagnammit!
bauen1! You beat your own previous record of 48 minutes and 51
seconds (By 40 minutes and 45 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L236[09:16:58] <MichiBot> bauen1's new
record is 1 hour, 29 minutes and 37 seconds! No points gained for
stealing from yourself. (Lost out on 0.00068 x 1 = 0.00068)
L237[09:17:26] <bauen1> ._. where can i
get a refund ?
L238[09:19:08] <Bob> tables
are a heck of a thing
<Bob> tables
are a heck of a thingL239[09:30:47]
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L240[09:33:29] <Kodos>
%tonk
<Kodos>
%tonkL241[09:33:29] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Kodos,
you were not able to beat bauen1's record of 1 hour, 29 minutes and
37 seconds this time. 16 minutes and 32 seconds were wasted! Missed
by 1 hour, 13 minutes and 4 seconds!
L242[10:00:11] <bad at
vijya> %tonk
<bad at
vijya> %tonkL243[10:00:16] <bad at
vijya> wait fucl
<bad at
vijya> wait fuclL244[10:00:40] <AdorableCatgirl>
%tonk
L245[10:00:40] <MichiBot> I'm sorry
AdorableCatgirl, you were not able to beat bauen1's record of 1
hour, 29 minutes and 37 seconds this time. 27 minutes and 10
seconds were wasted! Missed by 1 hour, 2 minutes and 26
seconds!
L246[10:00:49] <AdorableCatgirl> f
L247[10:00:57] <AdorableCatgirl> my time
is fucked up then
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L249[10:22:15] <Inari> .
L250[10:22:34] <Inari> AmandaC: I'm sure
you cna just phase through the wall anyway
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L252[10:26:03] <Bob>
AmandaC what is the godly VSCodium addon i should add
<Bob>
AmandaC what is the godly VSCodium addon i should addL253[10:30:53] ⇦
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L256[10:44:24] <Forecaster>
huh, apparently it's down worldwide
<Forecaster>
huh, apparently it's down worldwideL257[10:53:47]
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L260[11:42:58] <Kodos>
%tonk
<Kodos>
%tonkL261[11:42:59] <MichiBot> Aw jeez! Kodos!
You beat bauen1's previous record of 1 hour, 29 minutes and 37
seconds (By 12 minutes and 41 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L262[11:43:00] <MichiBot> Kodos's new
record is 1 hour, 42 minutes and 18 seconds! Kodos also gained
0.00042 (0.00021 x 2) tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L263[12:14:09] <Inari> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/309529094452936705/590577945219694623/image0.jpg?width=784&height=677
L264[12:14:36] <bad at
vijya> is this elon musk
<bad at
vijya> is this elon muskL265[12:14:48] <Inari> No
L266[12:14:51] <Inari> This is
wolfgirls
L267[12:14:53] <Inari> Elon is
catgirls
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L269[12:20:50] <Inari> I want a pet
raccoon
L270[12:21:12] <MGR> Take
some of the ones in my area
<MGR> Take
some of the ones in my areaL271[12:24:37]
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L274[12:44:54] <lopezt> payonel: are the
loot disks getting updated in the future releases as well?
L275[12:45:02] <lopezt> these*
L276[12:45:55] <lopezt> i am fiddeling
around with the network loot disk and its a cool idea but not
useable in a "production" environment, rather a thing to
build on
L277[12:46:15] <lopezt> darn he istn
online
L278[12:49:50] <AmandaC> @Bob https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=sumneko.lua
L279[12:54:18] <Bob>
thank
<Bob>
thankL280[13:01:06] ⇦
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L282[13:05:34] <descention>
any way besides a geolyzer for a robot to detect blocks outside
touch range?
<descention>
any way besides a geolyzer for a robot to detect blocks outside
touch range?L283[13:06:16] <Forecaster>
no
<Forecaster>
noL284[13:06:24] <ben_mkiv> computronics
camera afaik
L285[13:06:39] <Forecaster>
if you have comutronics you might be able to stuff a camera in
it
<Forecaster>
if you have comutronics you might be able to stuff a camera in
itL286[13:07:45] <descention>
thanks. computronics is not available in the modpack we're
using
<descention>
thanks. computronics is not available in the modpack we're
usingL287[13:07:57] <Forecaster>
add it
<Forecaster>
add itL288[13:08:01] <Forecaster>
:P
<Forecaster>
:PL289[13:08:06] <descention>
not my server ?
<descention>
not my server ?L290[13:08:16] <Zef>
computronics should be a legal requirement for playing with
opencomputers
<Zef>
computronics should be a legal requirement for playing with
opencomputersL291[13:08:21] <Zef> in
fact most of the addons should be
<Zef> in
fact most of the addons should beL292[13:08:30] <Zef> So
many good things
<Zef> So
many good thingsL293[13:08:33] <descention>
I'll mention it to the Enigmatica team
<descention>
I'll mention it to the Enigmatica teamL294[13:09:05] <Zef> Well
it's not avaliable on curseforge
<Zef> Well
it's not avaliable on curseforgeL295[13:11:20] <descention>
ah
<descention>
ahL296[13:11:32] <descention>
well that might be a reason they don't include it
<descention>
well that might be a reason they don't include itL297[13:19:08] <Zef> Does
it have something like opensecurity?
<Zef> Does
it have something like opensecurity?L298[13:19:18] <Zef>
Because that's another addon that is on curse
<Zef>
Because that's another addon that is on curseL299[13:19:37]
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L301[13:39:04] <TheFox>
%tonk
<TheFox>
%tonkL302[13:39:04] <MichiBot> Potzblitz!
TheFox! You beat Kodos's previous record of 1 hour, 42 minutes and
18 seconds (By 13 minutes and 46 seconds)! I hope you're
happy!
L303[13:39:05] <MichiBot> TheFox's new
record is 1 hour, 56 minutes and 5 seconds! TheFox also gained
0.00046 (0.00023 x 2) tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L304[13:39:42] <alexandria> damn
L305[13:39:48] <alexandria> beat me by 41
seconds
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L307[13:43:30] <avalon> test
L308[13:44:46] <Bob>
tset
<Bob>
tsetL309[13:45:23] ⇦
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L310[14:06:17] <lopezt> i found a minor
bug
L311[14:08:59] <Forecaster>
catch it in a glass and release it outside
<Forecaster>
catch it in a glass and release it outsideL312[14:13:02] <Kodos> What
bug
<Kodos> What
bugL313[14:17:03] <Z0idburg>
is it a pebkac bug?
<Z0idburg>
is it a pebkac bug?L314[14:22:25] <bauen1> lopezt: the
network disk seems such a nice idea (but definietly needs some
improvements, eg. wireless network support)
L315[14:23:40] <lopezt> bauen1: it
supports wireless network
L316[14:23:54] <lopezt> but in my current
version it has a bug, 1.7.4
L317[14:24:01] <lopezt> which got already
fixed in 1.7.10
L318[14:24:25] <lopezt> hmm, at least i
remember it supports wireless
L319[14:24:52] <lopezt> i was able to
connect with a wireless card to a networkcard with it
L320[14:24:58] <lopezt> but not the other
way around
L321[14:25:08] <lopezt> but this belongs
to another bug in 1.7.4
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L324[14:35:37] <payonel> lopezt: there are
not plans to update/improve the loot disc software in the current
incarnation of things
L325[14:36:08] <payonel> what is lacking
with the network software loot disk that you feel makes it
inadequate for a "production" environment? :)
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L327[14:42:09] <Bob> dose
anyone has lua 5.3.5 compiled windows libraries by any chance
<Bob> dose
anyone has lua 5.3.5 compiled windows libraries by any chanceL328[14:43:09] <lopezt> payonel: i found a
minor bug in the network loot disk, but as ihave seen it got fixed
already in a later versoin then 1.7.4
L329[14:43:45] <Bob> nvm
found
<Bob> nvm
foundL330[14:43:54] <Bob> you
can correct it on github
<Bob> you
can correct it on githubL331[14:43:55] <Bob> do a
PR
<Bob> do a
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L333[14:44:10] <lopezt> it has been
already corrected in 1.7.10
L334[14:44:28] <AmandaC> there is no
1.7.10 OC
L335[14:44:49] <AmandaC> there's 1.7.4 OC
for 1.7.10 MC
L336[14:44:56] <payonel> :) i think he
means 1.7.10 mc :P
L337[14:45:23] <payonel> but yes, often
people think our versions are based on mc versions
L338[14:45:27] <AmandaC> payonel: I'm not
so sure? He says it's been fixed in "later then
1.7.4"
L339[14:46:29] <lopezt> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/commit/986d4345d8972522fbe0a299f59273366b8173fb#diff-63278ee2629b6a66547fd689c98ba105
L340[14:46:38] <payonel> fair
L341[14:47:01] <payonel> lopezt: our
official release version of oc is 1.7.4
L342[14:47:11] <payonel> we have 1.7.4 for
MC 1.7.10, 1.10, 1.11, and 1.12
L343[14:47:38] <AmandaC> Yeah, that's not
1.7.10, that's the branch for MC 1.7.10, which will be merged-up to
1.12
L344[14:47:41] <payonel> beside that, we
have dev builds that are >1.7.4 and <1.7.5
L345[14:49:20] <payonel> lopezt: also, i
can confirm that fix was merged all the way to 1.12
L346[14:50:07] <payonel> any build >=
163 for 1.12 should have it
L347[14:50:16] <payonel> (use latest, if
youre going dev)
L348[14:50:20] <payonel> https://ci.cil.li/job/OpenComputers-MC1.12/
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L350[14:59:39] <lopezt> so can i add merge
requests to github regarding the loot disks?
L351[15:00:26] <payonel> sure. it can be
helpful to give me a heads about first
L352[15:00:34] <payonel> i might be
against the change, and that'd save you time
L353[15:00:35] <lopezt> when i did setup
my mmc for this i just took the latest relase from the forge
website
L354[15:00:48] <lopezt> of course
L355[15:00:56] <payonel> curseforge has
our latest "official releases"
L356[15:01:02] <payonel> our dev releases
have more fixes
L357[15:01:10] <payonel> such as the
commit you just linked
L358[15:01:21] <payonel> curseforge does
NOT have our latest builds
L359[15:01:29] <payonel> we host those
ourselves: https://ci.cil.li/
L360[15:01:43] <lopezt> there are a few
things i can picture to have the network library to be much more
useful
L361[15:02:29] <lopezt> i have to say it
took me a while to get into it, i was thinking about writing a
guide for it so noone else has to go through this again
L362[15:02:43] <payonel> the wiki is a
good place for a guide
L363[15:04:13] <payonel> lopezt: a guide
for how to do networking could get a link here: https://ocdoc.cil.li/tutorial
L364[15:08:20] <Inari> I need to buy an
USB stick :| The only one I have is one of those you put an SD card
in and for some reason those always break on me
L365[15:09:28] <bauen1> the network loot
disk doesn't work over wireless is what i mean (if you just access
the cable network using the tier 2 wireless of course it will
work)
L366[15:11:20] <Skye> The network thing is
outdated and broken
L367[15:11:43] <Skye> but it can't be
replaced without favouring one of the two current network
protocols
L368[15:12:52] <AmandaC> [ Situation:
There are 2 competeing standards ]
L369[15:13:30] <bauen1> which two ?
L370[15:14:48] <bauen1> i only really read
a bit of the docs of minitel
L371[15:17:30] <Skye> there might be
4
L372[15:20:02] <Forecaster>
[ Situation: There are 4 competing standards ]
<Forecaster>
[ Situation: There are 4 competing standards ]L373[15:21:00] <Mimiru> 4? That's crazy!
We need a single standard that meets everyones needs!
L374[15:21:05] <Mimiru> %xkcd
standards
L375[15:21:06] <MichiBot> Mimiru: https://xkcd.com/927/ - *Standards - xkcd*:
"Permanent link to this comic: https://xkcd.com/927/ Image URL
(for hotlinking/ embedding): https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/standards.png. HOW
STANDARDS ..."
L376[15:21:18] <payonel> the great Mimiru
has come to visit!
L377[15:21:32] <payonel> %give Mimiru a
cupcake
L378[15:21:33] *
MichiBot searches through her inventory for a bit. "I couldn't
find anything..."
L379[15:21:33] <Forecaster>
visit? you mean she doesn't live here?
<Forecaster>
visit? you mean she doesn't live here?L380[15:21:54] <payonel> her shell
does
L381[15:22:20] <bauen1> can't the 4
standards atleast agree on the layer 2 ?
L382[15:22:39] <Forecaster>
absolutely not
<Forecaster>
absolutely notL383[15:25:14] <Mimiru> Unfortunately with
my current project load, I hardly have time for anything else
:(
L384[15:25:18] <Mimiru> Hai guys
<3
L385[15:25:43] <Mimiru> You should come
play on my City of Heroes server :P
L386[15:25:52] <Forecaster>
I don't have that
<Forecaster>
I don't have thatL387[15:26:07] <Mimiru> you *could*
L388[15:26:39] <Mimiru> https://cityofheroes.dev/forums/
L389[15:28:22] <bauen1> so the OpenOS
thread API is the reason why event has some weird metatable magic
around pullSignal ._.
L390[15:28:44] <bauen1> we should work on
making the OpenOS code easier to understand ._.
L391[15:29:40] <payonel> bauen1: adding
amazing features AND keeping memory load **super** low AND keeping
backwards compatability == magic and confusion
L392[15:30:07] <payonel> that metatable
magic on pullSignal was ENTIRELY about memory
L393[15:30:28] <payonel> openos boots with
1 stick of tier 1 ram, and installs successfully with just that 1
stick
L394[15:30:40] <payonel> i think it is
currently down to 65k free
L395[15:30:48] <payonel> (by the time you
reach the shell)
L396[15:31:04] <bauen1> alright backwards
compatibility is a good reason
L397[15:31:05] <Skye> as someone who was
around during the trasition from OpenOS in ROM to OpenOS on disk,
that is something it wasn't able to do before
L398[15:31:15] <bauen1> even for the
package delay magic
L399[15:33:50] <payonel> bauen1: i'm happy
to explain in great detail any area of code in openos, if you have
such questions
L400[15:34:26] <Mimiru> thread.lua line
#45, #69, #224 and #1009
L401[15:34:28] <Mimiru> Thanks
L402[15:34:28] <Mimiru> :p
L403[15:34:48] <payonel> haha :)
well...
L404[15:35:27] <Mimiru> j/k lol
L405[15:38:01] <payonel> #45: t:kill();
here we are closing any thread that is ready to die. the mortician
is a set of those ready threads. #69 mt.__statue =
"running"; the thread state is switching to running. #224
mt.reg = nil; cleaning up registry data about the thread, e.g. this
is needed during detach() #1009 ... thread.lua is only 231 lines
long :)
L406[15:44:37] <Mimiru> lmao
L407[15:44:50] <Mimiru> <3 haha
L408[15:45:09] <bauen1> also couldn't you
let lua "unload" required modules by having
package.loaded __mode = "v" ?
L409[15:45:11] <Forecaster>
lines #232 - 1009 only exist in an alternate dimension
<Forecaster>
lines #232 - 1009 only exist in an alternate dimensionL410[15:48:17] <bauen1> i mean that could
end really really badly, depending on how some people might use
require, but it seems to work otherwise ...
L411[15:49:14] <payonel> bauen1: that's a
really good solution for some of the libs
L412[15:49:46] <payonel> but i've trimmed
all of that out of the boot sequence, nothing is loaded that isn't
crucial, and i was trying to only add "magic" on paths
that couldn't be unloaded
L413[15:50:18] <payonel> there might be
areas that are over optimized that don't need to be, but generally,
it is that way for that reason
L414[15:50:24] <bauen1> so just a quick
test openos goes from ~900000 to ~923593 free after boot
L415[15:50:30] <bauen1> yeah it probably
breaks some things too
L416[15:51:05] <payonel> and what is your
baseline? 65k?
L417[15:51:28] <bauen1> 90k was free after
boot without __mode="v"
L418[15:51:35] <payonel> oh, i see
L419[15:51:43] <payonel> so what is this?
T1.5?
L420[15:52:05] <bauen1> default of
ocvm
L421[15:52:10] <payonel> OH THAT
L422[15:52:19] <bauen1> let me put in a
t1
L423[15:52:34] <payonel> ocvm models
memory very well, but it isn't the same
L424[15:52:34] <Izaya> I worry just how
much of a lard some people are if 48hp is "a little lacking at
times"
L426[15:52:49] <payonel> i use ocvm to
measure changes in memory
L427[15:52:54] <The_Stargazer> into OpenOS
<The_Stargazer> into OpenOSL428[15:53:01] <payonel> but not as a
perfect predictor of exact mem load you'd expect in game
L429[15:53:06] <bauen1> true
L430[15:53:23] <payonel> with small
changes, however, it is a very good predictor though
L431[15:53:34] <The_Stargazer> how much hackery does
OpenOS have to work with OC
<The_Stargazer> how much hackery does
OpenOS have to work with OCL432[15:53:54] <payonel> @The_Stargazer
can you define "hackery" ?
L433[15:53:55] <The_Stargazer> i.e. how much is special
code
<The_Stargazer> i.e. how much is special
codeL434[15:54:00] <The_Stargazer> that's not standard
<The_Stargazer> that's not standardL435[15:54:06] <payonel> non standard lua
?
L436[15:54:11] <The_Stargazer> yea
<The_Stargazer> yeaL437[15:54:17] <payonel> we have a wiki
page on that
L438[15:54:18] <payonel> sec
L439[15:54:23] <The_Stargazer> and how catastrophic would
it be
<The_Stargazer> and how catastrophic would
it beL440[15:54:27] <The_Stargazer> if we got rid of that
<The_Stargazer> if we got rid of thatL441[15:54:43] <payonel> https://ocdoc.cil.li/api
L442[15:54:48] <payonel> we dont hack it
for openos' sake
L443[15:54:52] <payonel> but for our
sandbox
L444[15:54:56] <Vexatos> AmandaC, nice
vscodium extension you got there
L445[15:55:03] <The_Stargazer> what do we hack it
for?
<The_Stargazer> what do we hack it
for?L446[15:55:06] <The_Stargazer> oh
<The_Stargazer> ohL447[15:55:16] <AmandaC> Vexatos: I like
it a lot for futzing with my OC stuff.
L448[15:55:26] <payonel> vscodium?
L449[15:55:30] <Vexatos> looks like adding
selene support of it would be very hard
L450[15:55:31] <AmandaC> Vexatos: but it's
not mine, I just found it and banged on it until it worked
L451[15:55:34] <payonel> is this something
in addition to lua-language-server?
L452[15:55:39] <payonel> AmandaC:
share!!!
L453[15:55:48] <bauen1> the tier 1 stick
is 196608 bytes right ?
L454[15:55:49] <The_Stargazer> by vscodium
<The_Stargazer> by vscodiumL455[15:55:52] <The_Stargazer> do you mean vs code?
<The_Stargazer> do you mean vs code?L456[15:55:54] <Vexatos> AmandaC, I
figured since you probably won't be writing chinese comments in
your repo
L457[15:55:55] <payonel> bauen1: sounds
right
L458[15:56:05] <AmandaC> payonel: vscodium
is a fork of vscode without all the microsoft stuff
L459[15:56:14] <Vexatos> someone please
tell me where the god damn entrypoint in lua-language-server
is
L460[15:56:17] <payonel> AmandaC:
hmm
L461[15:56:22] <The_Stargazer> that explains my question
as well
<The_Stargazer> that explains my question
as wellL462[15:56:24] <Izaya> AmandaC: oh
interesting
L463[15:56:33] <Vexatos> payonel, vscodium
is vscode but with literally not a single functional
difference
L464[15:56:39] *
payonel doesn't mind msft in his vscode
L465[15:56:39] <Vexatos> just without the
telemetry
L466[15:56:56] <The_Stargazer> >*using
microsoft-derived products*
<The_Stargazer> >*using
microsoft-derived products*L467[15:56:58] <Izaya> I remember
something about how the primary method for obtaining VSCode was
using pre-built binaries from MS and that's not something I'd
trust
L468[15:57:07] <bauen1> if i set
__mode="v" on package.loaded it crashes with an out of
memory error lmao
L469[15:57:11] <Vexatos> payonel, do you
know lua-language-server by chance
L470[15:57:18] <Izaya> though fortunately
it's not an issue for me because I use text editors to edit text,
not web browsers
L471[15:57:20] <Izaya> :^)
L472[15:57:26] <The_Stargazer> would OpenOS play nice with
a custom event loop?
<The_Stargazer> would OpenOS play nice with
a custom event loop?L473[15:57:32] <Vexatos> because I'd like
to find where the god damn compiler entry point is so I can maybe
hack selene parsing into this
L474[15:57:32] <The_Stargazer> and a luaJIT
compiler?
<The_Stargazer> and a luaJIT
compiler?L475[15:57:41] <payonel> Vexatos: yeah,
i've been using it for a week now, AmandaC told me about that
L476[15:58:00] <Vexatos> because selene
code not appearing as errors in my linter would be kinda nice
L477[15:58:02] <payonel> Izaya: oh come
on, a little paranoid :P
L478[15:58:15] <AmandaC> payonel, Vexatos:
It's code is a fucking mess, imho. I'm glad someone else figured
out how to make it happy under linux, because I sure as shit
wouldn't be able to
L479[15:58:20] <Izaya> it's not paranoid
if the company in question has a history of being
user-hostile
L480[15:58:30] <Vexatos> AmandaC, the
comments are chinese :I
L481[15:58:32] <lopezt> for what could i
have the use to put a harddrive into a relay?
L482[15:58:32] <payonel> @The_Stargazer
custom event loop? you want to replace the event lib?
L483[15:58:37] <The_Stargazer> well
<The_Stargazer> wellL484[15:58:42] <The_Stargazer> luvit has its own event
loop
<The_Stargazer> luvit has its own event
loopL485[15:58:43] <The_Stargazer> libuv
<The_Stargazer> libuvL486[15:58:52] <bauen1> ah the error
handleing in dofile@lib/core/boot.lua is amazing, it will tell you
the error but not what caused it ._.
L487[15:59:09] <The_Stargazer> reminds me of
r/softwaregore
<The_Stargazer> reminds me of
r/softwaregoreL488[15:59:12] <Izaya> >nodejs but
lua
L489[15:59:15] <The_Stargazer> those error boxes that just
said
<The_Stargazer> those error boxes that just
saidL490[15:59:17] <The_Stargazer> "Ok"
<The_Stargazer> "Ok"L491[15:59:23] <The_Stargazer> gtg
<The_Stargazer> gtgL492[15:59:26] <Izaya> well at least it's
better than JS I guess but o.O
L493[16:00:07] <Izaya> Lizzy: https://stereophonic.space/media/1ba831084767804ad803773d1c618b76dcd6ff51aae5e5d6153a98bc2e6513ed.jpg
L494[16:00:30] <Lizzy> hehehehe
L495[16:00:48] <payonel> bauen1: yeah, i
should just assert a bit more there and not use those
if/elses
L496[16:01:14] <payonel> bauen1: if i'm
going to take credit for openos, i also have to take blame i
suppose
L497[16:01:18] <Mimiru> "Failed
successfully"
L498[16:01:40] <Skye> Where's
Sangar?!
L499[16:01:41] <payonel> ...even though
those exact lines of code i didn't change from historical
roots
L500[16:01:47] <bauen1> lol
L501[16:01:52] <Skye> WHAT DID PAYONEL DO
TO SANGAR?!!
L502[16:02:03] <payonel> :/
L503[16:02:14] <Lizzy> Sangar is still
around :P
L504[16:02:28] <Forecaster>
you mean payonel didn't absorb him?
<Forecaster>
you mean payonel didn't absorb him?L505[16:02:33] <payonel> i keep sangar in
a perpetual blissful virtual world, suspended in a coma-like
state
L506[16:02:44] <Skye> lucky
L507[16:02:53] <Skye> what's the downside
for him
L508[16:03:03] <payonel> um, nothing he
enjoys is real
L509[16:03:09] <AmandaC> His partner is
kirito
L510[16:04:40] <payonel> bauen1: i
inherited openos at its version 1.5 days. since then, every
functional area of code has changed (at least, the important ones)
:) and it is significantly different
L511[16:04:49] <Vexatos> if only I could
find the god damn entrypoint
L512[16:04:54] <payonel> but yeah, it
could be better of course
L513[16:04:58] <payonel> there will be
more changes in the future
L514[16:07:17] <AmandaC> payonel has
altered the openos. Pray he does not alter it further
L515[16:07:37] <payonel> lopezt: your
network ideas sounds pretty good
L516[16:07:47] <Vexatos> open os
L517[16:07:50] <Vexatos> os is latin for
bone
L518[16:10:21] <bauen1> payonel: so (after
a small patch to ensure buffer and io stay loaded long enough)
__mode="v" saves 5kb on a T1 stick (no mode free 64519 vs
mode free 69817) by unloading the rc module
L519[16:11:04] <Bob>
everything has to break with time
<Bob>
everything has to break with timeL520[16:11:51] <Bob>
Luarocks on termux now is shit literally for no reason it totally
stopped working and when i got it right the directory isnt the
right one and i dont even know where it is, but it worked fine 2
months ago bruh
<Bob>
Luarocks on termux now is shit literally for no reason it totally
stopped working and when i got it right the directory isnt the
right one and i dont even know where it is, but it worked fine 2
months ago bruhL521[16:12:08] <Bob> ~~i
require root privileges~~
<Bob> ~~i
require root privileges~~L522[16:13:12] <bauen1> openos does crash
as soon as i open lua on the T1 memory stick lol
L523[16:14:31] <bauen1> and if you use
__mode="v" on package.loaded you need someway to ensure
important stuff doesn't get unloaded (ie. preload table)
L524[16:17:05] <payonel> lopezt: we
shouldnt need rc for hardward change detection, btw
L525[16:17:38] <Vexatos> I assume I can't
just add a new searcher and lua-language-server just, you know,
supports it
L526[16:18:15] <lopezt> payonel: but the
drivers get initialied in the boot file, what will only happen when
the system gets booted, or we need a hook
L527[16:19:02] <payonel> there are no
network drivers at boot, besides, you just add event listeners to
its own lib code
L528[16:20:23] <payonel> lopezt: whatever
changes you propose/PR for the network loot disk, btw, have to be
backward compatible
L529[16:20:30] <bauen1> the plan9k loot
disk also needs some love
L530[16:20:43] <payonel> bauen1: well to
be honest, it is deprecated
L531[16:23:35] <lopezt> payonel: the thing
is the network tcp part does not work at all before the fix which
was made 14 days ago by yourself
L532[16:24:18] <payonel> are you saying
there is no basis for supporting existing projects?
L533[16:24:35] <lopezt> lol
L534[16:25:00] <lopezt> its the channel
creation is totally messed up, there is only one circumstance tcp
works with it
L535[16:25:36] <payonel> i dont know of
projects that use the network loot disk, tbh. everyone i think
write their own socket code with the internet component
L536[16:26:01] <payonel> but i dont keep
tabs on community projects
L537[16:26:08] <Kodos>
%tonk
<Kodos>
%tonkL538[16:26:09] <MichiBot> Zounderkite!
Kodos! You beat TheFox's previous record of 1 hour, 56 minutes and
5 seconds (By 51 minutes)! I hope you're happy!
L539[16:26:09] <payonel> a good start is
to scan the oppm projets
L540[16:26:10] <MichiBot> Kodos's new
record is 2 hours, 47 minutes and 5 seconds! Kodos also gained
0.0017 (0.00085 x 2) tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L541[16:26:37] <lopezt> so for myself, i
like the way it is written, there are only a few things which needs
to be changed, also i dont want to write my own network protocol
from scratch
L542[16:26:58] <lopezt> actually i would
rather be busy with keeping another project going which requires a
reliable network
L543[16:27:16] <lopezt> i was looking for
a solutioon and found out about the loot disk
L544[16:27:19] <bauen1> the reason nobody
uses the network loot disk is because it breaks as soon as you try
to use it ._.
L545[16:27:38] <lopezt> i am not sure
about the udp part, cause it doesnt create channels
L546[16:27:44] <lopezt> i guess it will
work fine
L547[16:27:59] <lopezt> but tcp is broken
cause channel creation is all messed up
L548[16:29:50] <lopezt> bauen1: wireless
cards work, but it did not work through a relay with a wireless
card
L549[16:30:19] <payonel> fwiw, you can put
a wireless card in the relay itself
L550[16:31:34] <lopezt> but i dont think
its an network lib issue
L551[16:32:15] <bauen1> gtg sleep, see you
tomorrow
L552[16:43:49] <Z0idburg>
@payonel WAT
<Z0idburg>
@payonel WATL553[16:43:54] <Z0idburg> I
didn't know you could do that
<Z0idburg> I
didn't know you could do thatL554[16:44:23] <Lizzy> you can also put a
linked card in there, which is nice for long distance stuff
L555[16:44:47] <payonel> linked cards are
amazing. i wonder if people use them enough
L556[16:45:00] <payonel> also, you can
recraft linked cards now :)
L557[16:45:08] <Vexatos> I
L558[16:45:09] <Vexatos> I did it
L559[16:45:12] <Vexatos> WHAT THE
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
L560[16:45:16] <Vexatos> WHY IS THIS
WORKING
L561[16:45:27] <Vexatos> [robotic meltdown
noises]
L562[16:46:21] <Lizzy> one small caviat
with the linked cards is that if you have one in a relay and one in
a pc, then send a message from the pc via the linked cards. other
devices connected to the relay will get the message but the port
will be "0" (because linked cards are point2point and
have no concept of ports)
L563[16:46:49] <payonel> oh ha, that makes
sense, i never tested that
L564[16:46:53] <payonel> Lizzy: so even
without a port open?
L565[16:47:15] <Lizzy> errr, I can't quite
remember, was a while since i discovered it
L566[16:47:24] <Lizzy> but i don't recall
opening port 0 so i think so yeah
L567[16:47:55] <payonel> i'll test
that
L568[16:48:04] <payonel> do you think that
is valid? it is an interesting workflow
L569[16:48:25] <Lizzy> going the other way
(i.e. standard network message into the relay then transported over
the linked card) still has the port number in it when the linked-pc
gets the message
L570[16:48:26] <payonel> that basically
allows linked cards to communicated with a host of machines at
once, and not strictly p2p
L571[16:48:38] *
Lizzy shrugs
L572[16:49:01] <Lizzy> I'm not 100% sure
if you need to open port 0 on a normal network card for it to
work
L573[16:49:42] <payonel> also pretty sure
you can't open port 0
L574[16:49:47] <Vexatos> PSA
L575[16:49:48] <Lizzy> hmm
L576[16:49:55] <Vexatos> I added selene
support to lua-language-server
L577[16:49:58] <Vexatos> It's
disgusting
L578[16:49:59] <Vexatos> but it
works
L579[16:50:05] <Vexatos> way better than
it has any right to
L580[16:50:19] <payonel> Vexatos: i'm glad
you are admitting that finally
L581[16:50:24] *
payonel runs
L582[16:50:50] <Vexatos> payonel, all I am
saying is
L583[16:50:53] <Vexatos> I found the entry
point
L584[16:51:06] <Lizzy> i didn't report the
edgecase because it's a fairly small edgecase because it's
generally unlikely that you'd be mixing up which devices linked
cards are in
L585[16:51:11] <payonel> i'm (badly)
mocking selene, not lua-language-serve :)
L586[16:51:30] <payonel> Lizzy: oh that's
fine! you just got me thinking about it
L587[16:56:14] <Vexatos> I swear
L588[16:56:18] <Vexatos> this has no right
to work as well as it does
L589[16:56:29] <Vexatos> I literally
L590[16:56:40] <Vexatos> added two
selene.parse() calls to one file of lua-language-server
L591[16:56:41] <Vexatos> and it
L592[16:56:42] <Vexatos> just works
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L599[17:24:09] <AmandaC> \o/ finally got
irccloud's electron shell happy with nixos
L600[17:24:45] <Vexatos> aand now I have a
.patch file you can literally just apply from the root of the
extension to add selene support
L601[17:24:47] <Vexatos> well then
L602[17:27:10] <Z0idburg>
Did I just hear of patch and selene?
<Z0idburg>
Did I just hear of patch and selene?L603[17:27:14] <Z0idburg>
and extension?
<Z0idburg>
and extension?L604[17:27:26] <Vexatos> I added selene
support to the lua-language-server vscodium extension :I
L605[17:27:42] <Vexatos> it's ugly and
disgusting and the patch has to be manually applied everytime the
extension updates
L606[17:27:44] <Vexatos> but it do
work
L607[17:34:46] <Bob>
VSCodium \o/
<Bob>
VSCodium \o/L608[17:36:29]
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L609[17:36:45] <Bob> Discord broke for me
so here i am trought webchat
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L611[17:37:23] <Bob> And
disxord is up again
<Bob> And
disxord is up againL612[17:37:32] <Bob> Micro
down times but chained
<Bob> Micro
down times but chainedL613[17:43:58] <Z0idburg>
Discord is written in Elixir
<Z0idburg>
Discord is written in ElixirL614[17:44:07] <Z0idburg>
it crashes thousands of times per second I assure you Bob
<Z0idburg>
it crashes thousands of times per second I assure you BobL615[17:44:10] <Z0idburg>
and you don't even realize it
<Z0idburg>
and you don't even realize itL616[17:44:23] <Z0idburg>
That is just how reliable Discord is
<Z0idburg>
That is just how reliable Discord isL617[17:45:16] <Z0idburg>
Elixir is all about forcing things to crash when something is just
slightly amiss and replacing them with new memory as if nothing
happened.
<Z0idburg>
Elixir is all about forcing things to crash when something is just
slightly amiss and replacing them with new memory as if nothing
happened.L618[17:45:38] ⇦
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L619[17:45:39] <Z0idburg>
and of course discord is made up of billions and billions of
processes
<Z0idburg>
and of course discord is made up of billions and billions of
processesL620[17:45:55] <Z0idburg>
all of which crashing constantly and reinitializing themselves in
realtime
<Z0idburg>
all of which crashing constantly and reinitializing themselves in
realtimeL621[17:46:20] <AmandaC> is that what made
you decide to use Discord, @Z0idburg? :P
L622[17:48:47] <Bob>
Z0idburg i totally agree
<Bob>
Z0idburg i totally agreeL623[17:51:09] <Z0idburg>
Yeah sorta AmandaC
<Z0idburg>
Yeah sorta AmandaCL624[17:51:15] <Z0idburg> I
mean the client is not in Elixir
<Z0idburg> I
mean the client is not in ElixirL625[17:51:19] <Z0idburg>
but the servers are
<Z0idburg>
but the servers areL626[17:51:52] <AmandaC> then I know just
the thing to make you switch back to IRC: IRCCloud's backend is
also in elixir. :P
L627[17:52:10] <Z0idburg>
Bob: So now, do you see why I'm developing Trotwood sort of like
Erlang's model?
<Z0idburg>
Bob: So now, do you see why I'm developing Trotwood sort of like
Erlang's model?L628[17:52:27] <Z0idburg>
hundreds of coroutines handling components and events etc crashing
constantly
<Z0idburg>
hundreds of coroutines handling components and events etc crashing
constantlyL629[17:52:49] <Z0idburg>
Is it really AmandaC
<Z0idburg>
Is it really AmandaCL630[17:52:54] <AmandaC> yup
L631[17:52:57] <Z0idburg>
if only IRCCloud didn't piss me off for whatever reason I
forget
<Z0idburg>
if only IRCCloud didn't piss me off for whatever reason I
forgetL632[17:53:03] <AmandaC> haha
L633[17:53:17] <Z0idburg> I
am not surprised though because Erlang is amazing for realtime
systems
<Z0idburg> I
am not surprised though because Erlang is amazing for realtime
systemsL634[17:53:19] <AmandaC> I just spent
~2-3h trying to make it's electron app work under nixos
L635[17:53:24] <Z0idburg>
and since Elixir runs on Erlang
<Z0idburg>
and since Elixir runs on ErlangL636[17:53:35] <Z0idburg>
does it work?
<Z0idburg>
does it work?L637[17:53:42] <AmandaC> yup
L638[17:53:48] <Z0idburg> I
didn't even know IRCCloud had an electron a pp
<Z0idburg> I
didn't even know IRCCloud had an electron a ppL639[17:53:51] <AmandaC> Made a nix
expression for it
L640[17:53:58] <Z0idburg>
OH YEAH
<Z0idburg>
OH YEAHL641[17:54:03] <Z0idburg> I
remember one reason I stopped using IRCCloud
<Z0idburg> I
remember one reason I stopped using IRCCloudL642[17:54:03] <AmandaC> https://github.com/irccloud/irccloud-desktop/releases
L643[17:54:07] <Z0idburg>
it was fighting with my ZNC setup
<Z0idburg>
it was fighting with my ZNC setupL644[17:54:20] <AmandaC> I pay the
5$/month so I don't need to bother with znc
L645[17:54:26] <Z0idburg>
and I forget why I doubled up on bouncing but there was a
reason
<Z0idburg>
and I forget why I doubled up on bouncing but there was a
reasonL646[17:54:29] <Z0idburg>
yes I did too
<Z0idburg>
yes I did tooL647[17:54:38] <Z0idburg>
znc does some things that IRCCloud didnt at the time
<Z0idburg>
znc does some things that IRCCloud didnt at the timeL648[17:54:43] ⇦
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L649[17:54:44] <Z0idburg>
so I used both
<Z0idburg>
so I used bothL650[17:55:08] <Z0idburg>
oh yeah... so I don't think irccloud had a client back then
<Z0idburg>
oh yeah... so I don't think irccloud had a client back thenL651[17:55:17] <Z0idburg>
other than using the web browser
<Z0idburg>
other than using the web browserL652[17:55:25] <AmandaC> It's had it for
at least 2 years
L653[17:55:29] <Z0idburg>
and I usually use irssi at home
<Z0idburg>
and I usually use irssi at homeL654[17:55:57] <Z0idburg>
What do you think of log horizon?
<Z0idburg>
What do you think of log horizon?L655[17:56:01] <Z0idburg> I
am watching it right now
<Z0idburg> I
am watching it right nowL656[17:56:24] <AmandaC> v0.1.0 was tagged
Mar 9, 2016
L657[17:56:49] <AmandaC> I've not watched
it, but I thin it's on my planning list
L658[17:57:18] <Z0idburg> I
really like it
<Z0idburg> I
really like itL659[17:57:47] <Z0idburg> I
almost think I like it better than SOA
<Z0idburg> I
almost think I like it better than SOAL660[17:57:49] <Z0idburg>
SAO*
<Z0idburg>
SAO*L661[18:02:39] <Z0idburg>
I've been wanting to make a bare minimally featured IRC server in
Elixir
<Z0idburg>
I've been wanting to make a bare minimally featured IRC server in
ElixirL662[18:03:03] ⇦
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L663[18:26:46] <Vexatos> https://quantum-chemistry.is-pretty.cool/8YgJAsu.png
L664[18:27:01] <Vexatos> @Z0idburg ^
L665[18:27:36] <Vexatos> I can't believe
this is working
L666[18:27:58] <Z0idburg> I
saw camel case and closed it fast as I could
<Z0idburg> I
saw camel case and closed it fast as I couldL667[18:28:22] <Vexatos> I didn't write
this :P
L668[18:28:32] <Z0idburg>
lol
<Z0idburg>
lolL669[18:28:36] <Z0idburg>
what is this
<Z0idburg>
what is thisL670[18:29:05] <Vexatos> working syntax
checking for selene? D:
L671[18:30:10] <Z0idburg>
heh
<Z0idburg>
hehL672[18:39:58] ⇦
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L673[18:44:52] <AmandaC> %shell
L674[18:44:53] *
MichiBot loads a chirpy birb into a shell and fires it. It strikes
alexandria. They take 8 damage. xandaros and Azelphur stood too
close and take 8 and 4 damage respectively.
L675[18:57:49] <AmandaC> D: I just noticed
what MichiBot used as ammo
L676[18:57:54] <AmandaC> I'm so sorry
Temia. D:
L677[19:02:12] <lopezt> %tonk
L678[19:02:12] <MichiBot> I'm sorry
lopezt, you were not able to beat Kodos's record of 2 hours, 47
minutes and 5 seconds this time. 2 hours, 36 minutes and 3 seconds
were wasted! Missed by 11 minutes and 1 second!
L679[19:06:23] <Temia> oh no D:
L680[19:12:36] <Kodos>
Rekt
<Kodos>
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L690[22:05:00] <Izaya> \:D/ my book turned
up
L691[22:05:12] *
Izaya now owns a copy of Inside AppleTalk (Second
Edition)
L692[22:18:09] <Ariri>
owo
<Ariri>
owoL693[22:19:20] <Ariri>
%tonk
<Ariri>
%tonkL694[22:19:21] <MichiBot> Jiminy Cricket!
Ariri! You beat Kodos's previous record of 2 hours, 47 minutes and
5 seconds (By 30 minutes and 3 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L695[22:19:22] <MichiBot> Ariri's new
record is 3 hours, 17 minutes and 8 seconds! Ariri also gained
0.0015 (0.0005 x 3) tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L696[22:19:36] <Ariri> %sip
random
<Ariri> %sip
randomL697[22:19:36] <MichiBot> You drink a
basic white potion (New!). It tastes bitter.
L698[22:42:56] <Zef>
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/559072557219971094/590746155533729822/2019-06-18_23.33.27.png
<Zef>
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/559072557219971094/590746155533729822/2019-06-18_23.33.27.pngL699[23:11:22] <CompanionCube> Izaya: y
tho
L700[23:11:45] <Izaya> CompanionCube: it
was $7 and where do you think I got most of the ideas for
Minitel
L701[23:12:25] *
CompanionCube doesn't know enough about appletalk to say
anything
L702[23:13:58] <AmandaC> right, guess it's
time to try that whole sleep thing again.
L703[23:31:12] <CompanionCube> random
thought of the day: most of the UK's railway services are partially
state-owned. No-one ever said it has to be the *domestic* state
owning it ;)
L704[23:33:32] <The_Stargazer> i love how I can understand
JSON
<The_Stargazer> i love how I can understand
JSONL705[23:33:44] <The_Stargazer> but I can't understand how
to tell Luvit how to understand it
<The_Stargazer> but I can't understand how
to tell Luvit how to understand itL706[23:34:05] <The_Stargazer> like, I can look at
lit.luvit.io's json
<The_Stargazer> like, I can look at
lit.luvit.io's jsonL707[23:34:08] <The_Stargazer> and be like "yep
okay"
<The_Stargazer> and be like "yep
okay"L708[23:34:23] <The_Stargazer> but when it comes to
*actually implementing a parser for it*
<The_Stargazer> but when it comes to
*actually implementing a parser for it*L709[23:34:27] <The_Stargazer> i'm like\
<The_Stargazer> i'm like\L710[23:34:29] <The_Stargazer> i'm like [Edited]
<The_Stargazer> i'm like [Edited]L711[23:34:33] <The_Stargazer> "uhhhhh
what"
<The_Stargazer> "uhhhhh
what"L712[23:35:44] <The_Stargazer> the `parsePackageJson`
function doesn't even have an `end` statement yet
<The_Stargazer> the `parsePackageJson`
function doesn't even have an `end` statement yetL713[23:41:05] <The_Stargazer> can you use `type` as a
function argument
<The_Stargazer> can you use `type` as a
function argumentL714[23:41:41] <The_Stargazer> i.e. is `function
parseJson(json, type)` valid
<The_Stargazer> i.e. is `function
parseJson(json, type)` validL715[23:43:50] <The_Stargazer> also, for some reason,
every IRC user is vexatos now
<The_Stargazer> also, for some reason,
every IRC user is vexatos now