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<Pinbot>
Hey, what are some valid servers?
<Pinbot>
Hey, what are some valid servers?L2[00:35:54] ⇦
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L3[00:39:47] <CompanionCube> what
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L5[00:53:30] <Kleadron>
%drink random
<Kleadron>
%drink randomL6[00:53:49] <Kleadron>
%drink random
<Kleadron>
%drink randomL7[00:54:00] <Kleadron>
excuse me
<Kleadron>
excuse meL8[00:54:14] <Kleadron>
%loot
<Kleadron>
%lootL9[00:54:23] <Kleadron>
well thats broken
<Kleadron>
well thats brokenL10[00:58:44] ⇨
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L13[02:01:26] <Lizzy> %loot
L14[02:01:26] <MichiBot> Lizzy: You get a
loot box! It contains a doorknob.! (100%)
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L16[02:15:11] <Lizzy> %tonkout
L17[02:15:12] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Lizzy,
you were not able to beat Forecaster's record of 13 hours, 36
minutes and 44 seconds this time. 12 hours, 35 minutes and 31
seconds were wasted! Missed by 1 hour, 1 minute and 12
seconds!
L18[02:15:16] <Lizzy> oh fuck
L19[02:27:01] <Z0idburg>
ZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
<Z0idburg>
ZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzL20[02:27:09] <Z0idburg>
is it time to go home yte?
<Z0idburg>
is it time to go home yte?L21[02:27:15] <Z0idburg>
yet
<Z0idburg>
yetL22[02:47:12] <Forecaster>
no
<Forecaster>
noL23[03:20:42] <Forecaster> %restart
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L27[03:21:49] <Forecaster>
%sip random
<Forecaster>
%sip randomL28[03:21:55] <MichiBot> You drink a smelly
transparent potion (New!). Forecaster grows a tail from a
water.
L29[03:22:00] <Saphire>
Ffffffuck me
<Saphire>
Ffffffuck meL30[03:23:30] <Forecaster>
huh
<Forecaster>
huhL31[03:26:56] <Forecaster>
I fixed it
<Forecaster>
I fixed itL32[03:27:06] <Forecaster>
it turns out DateTime.parse doesn't like empty strings
<Forecaster>
it turns out DateTime.parse doesn't like empty stringsL33[03:50:36] <Lizzy> @Saphire meep
L34[03:50:47] *
Lizzy isn't sure why she decided to meep there but she
did
L35[03:52:49] <Corded> * <Forecaster>
kicks dns api auth
L36[03:52:53] <Forecaster>
:|
<Forecaster>
:|L37[04:12:01] <Saphire>
*meeps at lizzy!*
<Saphire>
*meeps at lizzy!*L38[04:14:25] <Lizzy> bugger it
L39[04:15:07] <Lizzy> i set up a vm earlier
in a way that i could continue setting it up via ssh but i didn't
set a root password on the arch iso so i can't get into it :(
L40[04:15:27] <Forecaster>
strange... when specifying a subdomain with no directive apache2
just uses the first directive in the file...
<Forecaster>
strange... when specifying a subdomain with no directive apache2
just uses the first directive in the file...L41[04:16:30] <Forecaster>
so I put my generic directive at the top, with the subdomain
directives below it, expecting it to always use the generic
directive for everything, but the subdomains are still
working...
<Forecaster>
so I put my generic directive at the top, with the subdomain
directives below it, expecting it to always use the generic
directive for everything, but the subdomains are still
working...L42[04:20:21] <Lizzy> grr, the serial
console isn't enabled either.... :(
L43[04:20:49] <Lizzy> fine, looks like i
need to nomachine into my home server to get on the virtual
terminal
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L46[04:29:13] <Z0idburg>
wat?
<Z0idburg>
wat?L47[04:29:15] <Z0idburg>
no serial?
<Z0idburg>
no serial?L48[04:32:13] <Z0idburg>
You know what the suckiest part of overnight shifts is?
<Z0idburg>
You know what the suckiest part of overnight shifts is?L49[04:38:45] <Lizzy> i don't think the
arch iso has a console on serial ports by default
L50[04:39:34] <Lizzy> managed to get in now
though, had to ssh to my home server then use that to wake my pc up
then use nomachine to remote into that to then remote via
virt-manager to my dedi to then get into the virtual console and
set a root password
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L53[05:20:40] <Z0idburg>
this reminds me of the time I broke my monitor
<Z0idburg>
this reminds me of the time I broke my monitorL54[05:20:54] <Z0idburg>
so I booed my computer typed a bunch of commands etc to get ssh
running or some crao
<Z0idburg>
so I booed my computer typed a bunch of commands etc to get ssh
running or some craoL55[05:20:58] <Z0idburg>
just by guessing
<Z0idburg>
just by guessingL56[05:20:59] <Z0idburg>
and it worked
<Z0idburg>
and it workedL57[05:44:42] <Lizzy> urghh ffs, ssh
session cut out whilst i was in the chroot and now it's
semi-broken
L58[06:14:21] *
AmandaC drags a phonebook over to Lizzy, meows triumphtly, cuddles
up against her
L59[06:17:17] *
Lizzy curls round AmandaC
L60[06:17:26] <Forecaster>
%sip random
<Forecaster>
%sip randomL61[06:17:26] <MichiBot> You drink a solid
quicksilver potion (New!). The bottle turns into a bow.
L62[06:18:05] <Izaya> S3: managed to
tighten the chain on my bike!
L63[06:18:09] <Izaya> I feel
accomplished!
L64[06:18:33] *
AmandaC loosens the chain again
L65[06:18:41] *
Izaya implodes
L66[06:18:49] <AmandaC> D:
L67[06:19:03] <Izaya> on the way to work
today the chain came off the rear sprocket
L68[06:19:15] <Izaya> so suddenly I had no
power
L69[06:19:17] <Izaya> that was good
L70[06:19:59] <AmandaC> Indeed! You were
supposed tobe helped on the side of the road by a wise old man
who'd become a lifelong friend and confidant
L71[06:20:33] <Izaya> well
L72[06:20:38] <Izaya> I got it fixed within
5 minutes
L73[06:20:41] <Izaya> so
L74[06:20:44] <Izaya> he was too slow
L75[06:24:34] <AmandaC> Oh well, guess
you'll die when the raptorure starts
L76[06:24:57] <Izaya> such is life
sometimes
L77[06:38:14] <Izaya> oh in other news I
sorted PsychOS not bringing up a prompt when nebooted
L78[06:38:19] <Izaya> netbooted*
L79[06:38:28] <Izaya> needed to
computer.getBootAddress = computer.tmpAddress
L80[06:40:49] <Izaya> it wasn't mounting
/boot
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L82[06:48:13] <fyton> hello
L83[06:48:23] <AmandaC> %hello
L84[06:48:23] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Hello!
Welcome to #oc! The one and only opencomputers channel! Please ask
your questions directly (dont ask to ask) and provide error/code
examples! (Use pastebin.com if theyre more than one line!) Dont
mind the random conversation you might have walked into.
L85[06:48:24] <Izaya> ey
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L87[06:53:57] <JasonBot> hello
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L92[07:25:17] <Kodos> I
don't buy a lot of music (I mostly listen to Pandora/iHeart) but
this group is making me want to buy at least one of their
albums
<Kodos> I
don't buy a lot of music (I mostly listen to Pandora/iHeart) but
this group is making me want to buy at least one of their
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L94[07:59:23] <Forecaster>
what group
<Forecaster>
what groupL95[08:02:20] <Kodos> The
Puppini Sisters
<Kodos> The
Puppini SistersL96[08:25:47] <Lizzy> NoIP why do you use
gravatar? -_-
L97[08:26:22] <Lizzy> raised a support
ticket and i just see my current gravatar profile pic on it (same
one as the oc forums)
L98[08:36:04] <Lizzy> aha! got back into
the chroot
L99[08:37:48] <simon816> RIP forums
https://www.minecraftforum.net/news/60727-important-minecraft-forum-archive-announcement
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L101[08:46:55] <Izaya> bizarre
L102[08:47:13] <Izaya> seems ass-backwards
but okay
L103[08:54:29] <Temia> Huh.
L104[08:55:04] <Temia> Why are they
closing it? I see no rationale mentioned
L105[08:55:38] <simon816> from the
comments it's a "business decision"
L106[08:56:03] <Kodos>
"Hurr durr use Curseforge" is what I get from it
<Kodos>
"Hurr durr use Curseforge" is what I get from itL107[08:56:11] <Temia> Uggggh
L108[08:58:24] <Temia> The internet was
better when it was communities operating forums for special
interests
L109[08:59:12] <Temia> I'm going to go
make breakfast and wave my cane
L110[09:00:17] <simon816> I haven't been
on the forums much since it merged with twitch, turns out lots of
old topics I posted in have been deleted
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L112[09:06:20] <Izaya> I kind of started
avoiding anything Curse related once Curse became a brand rather
than a name at the bottom of the page
L113[09:08:49] <Lizzy> I am kinda thankful
for curseforge (or at least most modders using it) because then i
don't need to go searching for a download for a mod, but the rest
of their stuff is meh
L114[09:11:13] <Lizzy> ooh, nginx 1.16 is
available through arch
L115[09:11:14] <Lizzy> neat
L116[09:13:29] <Lizzy> hmm, okay hopefully
that wont break stuff when i update whirlpool
L117[09:14:39] *
Lizzy needs to learn how to use awk
L118[09:34:17] <Lizzy> right, now to
reboot this vm and see if i set everything up right
L119[09:38:04] <Lizzy> aah fuck i forgot
to enable the ssh daemon before i rebooted the vm..
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L124[10:16:34] <Lizzy> come on noip,
gimmie my auth code
L125[10:22:14] <Lizzy> oh cool, FireFox
now supports the Yubikey thing
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L128[10:52:20] <Lizzy> yay, home
L129[10:53:41] <TheRealBob>
?
<TheRealBob>
?L130[11:11:35] <Zef> %drink
^
<Zef> %drink
^L131[11:11:35] <MichiBot> The bottle turns
into a bow.
L132[11:30:59] <Temia> %quaff gloopy
adamantium potion
L133[11:30:59] <MichiBot> The bottle turns
into a dagger.
L134[11:31:04] <Temia> Hrk-
L135[11:31:18] *
Temia slumps over
L136[11:31:28] <Temia> Betrayed by the
bottle Dx
L137[11:32:24] <Forecaster>
it's probably an adamantium dagger though
<Forecaster>
it's probably an adamantium dagger thoughL138[11:33:43] <Inari> %pet Temia
L139[11:33:44] *
MichiBot brushes Temia with fightin' words. 3 health
gained!
L140[11:33:57] <Inari> D:
L141[11:33:59] *
Inari hides
L142[11:36:21] <Forecaster>
them fightin' words
<Forecaster>
them fightin' wordsL143[11:37:33] ⇦
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L146[11:44:15] <nos> Here I am! \o/
L147[11:44:31] <TheRealBob>
Welcome
<TheRealBob>
WelcomeL148[11:44:33] <TheRealBob>
%hello
<TheRealBob>
%helloL149[11:44:34] <MichiBot> TheRealBob:
Hello! Welcome to #oc! The one and only opencomputers channel!
Please ask your questions directly (dont ask to ask) and provide
error/code examples! (Use pastebin.com if theyre more than one
line!) Dont mind the random conversation you might have walked
into.
L150[11:46:18] <nos> I installed Plan9k
since OpenOS suddenly did not want to boot, and "cp -r .
/" the oppm floppy. However I'm not finding anything like
ldconfig to register the binary. Rebooting did not help.
L151[11:47:39] <nos> Is there are
preferred install method for Plan9k? should I stay clear if I don't
know the answer to thse questions myself? Are the .lua files
compatible betweent he OSs?
L152[11:48:05] <nos> Also, thanks!
L153[11:49:26] <TheRealBob>
Plan9K is abandonned and unupdated
<TheRealBob>
Plan9K is abandonned and unupdatedL154[11:49:30] <TheRealBob>
no wonder why its broken
<TheRealBob>
no wonder why its brokenL155[11:49:43] <nos> That's sad!
L156[11:49:47] <TheRealBob>
use OpenOS
<TheRealBob>
use OpenOSL157[11:49:58] <TheRealBob>
Lua files are compatible only if the requried libraries are on both
OSes also
<TheRealBob>
Lua files are compatible only if the requried libraries are on both
OSes alsoL158[11:50:05] <TheRealBob>
everyone uses OpenOS libs so
<TheRealBob>
everyone uses OpenOS libs soL159[11:50:36] <nos> Reinstalling OpenOS
then... my HDD got some kind of strange startup error!
L160[11:51:04] <TheRealBob>
you cleared it ?
<TheRealBob>
you cleared it ?L161[11:51:11] <TheRealBob>
EEPROM corrupted ?
<TheRealBob>
EEPROM corrupted ?L162[11:51:16] <TheRealBob>
or the OpenOS floppy itself is dead
<TheRealBob>
or the OpenOS floppy itself is deadL163[11:51:24] <nos> EEPROM seems
fine.
L164[11:51:43] <nos> Maybe bad sectors!
:D
L165[11:52:30] <TheRealBob>
there are no real sectors
<TheRealBob>
there are no real sectorsL166[11:54:28] <nos> I know... That's the
weird part. Happened after I uninstalled a small program.
L167[11:56:08] <Skye> there's no such
thing as corupted sectors
L168[11:56:15] <Skye> unless the hard
drive your server is on is dying
L169[11:56:27] <Skye> s/your server/your
actual minecraft game
L170[11:56:27] <MichiBot> <Skye>
unless the hard drive your actual minecraft game is on is
dying
L171[12:02:06] <Forecaster>
%tonkout
<Forecaster>
%tonkoutL172[12:02:08] <MichiBot> I'm sorry
Forecaster, you were not able to beat Forecaster's record of 13
hours, 36 minutes and 44 seconds this time. 9 hours, 46 minutes and
55 seconds were wasted! Missed by 3 hours, 49 minutes and 49
seconds!
L173[12:02:13] <Forecaster>
dangit
<Forecaster>
dangitL174[12:10:35] <nos> Could be the server,
yeah.
L175[12:11:04] <nos> Was there a key-combo
I could use to interrupt a while true do loop?
L176[12:11:15] <TheRealBob>
CRTL + ALT + C
<TheRealBob>
CRTL + ALT + CL177[12:11:15] <Skye> ctrl+c
L178[12:11:30] <nos> ah, yeah didn't work
the first time!
L179[12:11:41] <TheRealBob>
Crtl + c being soft interupt
<TheRealBob>
Crtl + c being soft interuptL180[12:11:47] <TheRealBob>
and with ALt being hard interupt
<TheRealBob>
and with ALt being hard interuptL181[12:11:51] <TheRealBob>
aka throws an error
<TheRealBob>
aka throws an errorL182[12:17:33]
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L183[12:44:31] <Forecaster>
%sip random
<Forecaster>
%sip randomL184[12:44:32] <MichiBot> You drink a
fluffy rock potion (New!). The bottle turns into an axe.
L185[12:46:16] <Forecaster>
mm fluffy rock
<Forecaster>
mm fluffy rockL186[12:48:30] <Inari> %drink random
L187[12:48:30] <MichiBot> You drink a
goopy green potion (New!). Inari grows slightly.
L188[12:48:35] <Inari> Ew
L189[12:48:38] <Inari> Make it
undone
L190[12:49:44] <TheRealBob>
is it that bad to be tall ?
<TheRealBob>
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L192[12:50:18] <Inari> Yes
L193[12:50:58] <TheRealBob>
w h y
<TheRealBob>
w h yL194[12:51:24] <Kleadron> %loot linus
media group
L195[12:55:06] <Inari> Because tall isn't
cute
L196[12:55:08] <Inari> And cutei s
life
L197[12:55:54] <Temia> Tall can be
cute!
L198[12:56:28] <AmandaC> %loot is a
lootbox, Kleadron
L199[12:56:28] <MichiBot> AmandaC: You get
a loot box! It contains a eerily quiet singing fish.! (100%)
L200[12:56:31] <Inari> Nah
L201[12:56:35] <TheRealBob>
*what about me smh*
<TheRealBob>
*what about me smh*L202[12:56:57] <Inari> Temia: I guess it
can be cute, but it'll be comparativley less cute to less
tall
L203[12:57:00] <Kleadron> AmandaC: it is
whatever i think it is >:(
L204[12:57:13] <AmandaC> I mean, clearly
not
L205[13:05:26] <Skye> %sip random
L206[13:05:27] <MichiBot> You drink a
oxidised dirt potion (New!). The sun turns into a giant baby face
for a second. It's horrific.
L207[13:06:39] <TheRealBob>
god wtf
<TheRealBob>
god wtfL208[13:07:22]
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L209[13:07:38] *
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meows
L210[13:10:47] <nos> How do I newline!
\o/
L211[13:11:50] <TheRealBob>
[[write a string with special characters here]] or "use
special codes like \n for newline or \t for tabs"
<TheRealBob>
[[write a string with special characters here]] or "use
special codes like \n for newline or \t for tabs"L213[13:13:31] <nos> hmm
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L215[13:21:10] <nos> is variable +
"\n" lua?
L216[13:22:13] <MGR>
Replace + with ..
<MGR>
Replace + with ..L217[13:22:15] <Skye> ^
L218[13:22:25] <TheRealBob>
to concatenate strings use ..
<TheRealBob>
to concatenate strings use ..L219[13:22:29] <MGR> And
that will concatenate "\n" onto your string
variable
<MGR> And
that will concatenate "\n" onto your string
variableL220[13:22:36] <TheRealBob>
Lua strings are immutables so its rather slow
<TheRealBob>
Lua strings are immutables so its rather slowL221[13:35:08] <Z0idburg>
That's probably because sometimes it takes two signals to take an
action
<Z0idburg>
That's probably because sometimes it takes two signals to take an
actionL222[13:35:16] <Z0idburg>
this is also true in software on *nix
<Z0idburg>
this is also true in software on *nixL223[13:35:23] <Z0idburg>
they will often ignore the first
<Z0idburg>
they will often ignore the firstL224[13:36:07] <Z0idburg> I
am going to have to guess nos is from a JS world
<Z0idburg> I
am going to have to guess nos is from a JS worldL225[13:39:29] <nos> I have worked with a
number of languages, but never in much depth.
L226[13:40:22]
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L227[13:40:47] <nos> I got term.setCursor
to go to the next line, but I suspect the terminal prompt is
overwriting my output... is that what term.screen() is for?
L228[13:43:26] <Z0idburg>
if you override the screen pointer then don't expect things not to
break
<Z0idburg>
if you override the screen pointer then don't expect things not to
breakL229[13:43:30] <Z0idburg>
visually
<Z0idburg>
visuallyL230[13:43:38] <Corded> * <Kodos>
grumbles about his stolen shoes
L231[13:43:41] <Z0idburg>
you are basically fighting the driver
<Z0idburg>
you are basically fighting the driverL232[13:43:45] <Z0idburg>
stolen shoes?
<Z0idburg>
stolen shoes?L233[13:43:50] <Z0idburg>
did your cats take off with them?
<Z0idburg>
did your cats take off with them?L234[13:43:56] <Kodos>
Sister stole my shoes by accident
<Kodos>
Sister stole my shoes by accidentL235[13:44:00] <Z0idburg>
LOL
<Z0idburg>
LOLL236[13:44:13] <Kodos> So
now they’re in Colorado
<Kodos> So
now they’re in ColoradoL237[13:44:16] <Kodos> And
I am not
<Kodos> And
I am notL238[13:44:29] <Z0idburg>
time to make your own
<Z0idburg>
time to make your ownL239[13:44:45] <Kodos> I
have flip flops. They aren’t fun in the rain though
<Kodos> I
have flip flops. They aren’t fun in the rain thoughL240[13:44:51] <Z0idburg>
meh
<Z0idburg>
mehL241[13:44:56] <Z0idburg> I
don't trust those things they're weird
<Z0idburg> I
don't trust those things they're weirdL242[13:45:13] <Z0idburg> I
could never ever wear sandle like things
<Z0idburg> I
could never ever wear sandle like thingsL243[13:45:14] <Z0idburg>
even with socks
<Z0idburg>
even with socksL244[13:45:38] <Kodos>
These just have a strap over the foot. No toe thinger
<Kodos>
These just have a strap over the foot. No toe thingerL245[13:45:54] <nos> ah, it's not
overwriting... just truncating my string to all but the first
character... bizarre!
L246[13:45:56] <Z0idburg>
yeah but I just need a fully enveloping boot
<Z0idburg>
yeah but I just need a fully enveloping bootL247[13:46:18] <Kodos> Show
code or did you already
<Kodos> Show
code or did you alreadyL248[13:46:45] <nos> https://i.imgur.com/40WeZUX.png
L249[13:46:46] <Z0idburg>
Yes we want to see why you are doing it wrong
<Z0idburg>
Yes we want to see why you are doing it wrongL250[13:46:47] <Z0idburg>
?
<Z0idburg>
?L251[13:46:51] <nos> like so
L252[13:47:10] <Kodos> No.
The code
<Kodos> No.
The codeL253[13:47:18] <Kodos> Not
the result
<Kodos> Not
the resultL254[13:47:26] <Z0idburg> I
think that's code for I don't want to show the code
<Z0idburg> I
think that's code for I don't want to show the codeL255[13:47:27] <Z0idburg>
?
<Z0idburg>
?L256[13:47:59] <nos>
ttps://i.imgur.com/H9d2lLN.png
L257[13:48:05] <Kodos>
Pastebin the code nos
<Kodos>
Pastebin the code nosL258[13:48:13] <nos> ehm..
L259[13:48:31] <Kodos> This
is why I edit externally
<Kodos> This
is why I edit externallyL260[13:49:24] <nos> s8n6xZrA
L261[13:49:24] <Z0idburg> I
just love how marketing mislead millions of people and people
mistake noise cencelation with sound isolation
<Z0idburg> I
just love how marketing mislead millions of people and people
mistake noise cencelation with sound isolationL262[13:49:28] <Z0idburg>
in headphones
<Z0idburg>
in headphonesL263[13:49:35] <Kodos> I am
on mobile lol
<Kodos> I am
on mobile lolL264[13:50:08] <nos> https://pastebin.com/s8n6xZrA
L265[13:50:11] <TheRealBob>
repl.it
<TheRealBob>
repl.itL266[13:51:01] <TheRealBob>
you know you can just use print() ? instead of doing some black
magic with term ?
<TheRealBob>
you know you can just use print() ? instead of doing some black
magic with term ?L267[13:51:34] <Kodos> Yeah
that’s way over complicated
<Kodos> Yeah
that’s way over complicatedL268[13:51:38] <TheRealBob>
and does event.listen makes a new thread ? or
<TheRealBob>
and does event.listen makes a new thread ? orL269[13:51:41] <TheRealBob>
i just never use it
<TheRealBob>
i just never use itL270[13:51:51] <TheRealBob>
you can just use an infinite while loop
<TheRealBob>
you can just use an infinite while loopL271[13:51:57] <Kodos> I
assign handlers to listen so I can close them easier
<Kodos> I
assign handlers to listen so I can close them easierL272[13:52:15] <nos> hmm
L273[13:52:18] <TheRealBob>
i don't really know how listeners works for me its black magic but
ill see this summer
<TheRealBob>
i don't really know how listeners works for me its black magic but
ill see this summerL274[13:52:30] <Z0idburg>
infinite loops!
<Z0idburg>
infinite loops!L276[13:52:36] <Kodos> Let
me refill my cup and drive home.
<Kodos> Let
me refill my cup and drive home.L277[13:52:43] <Kodos>
Bbiaf
<Kodos>
BbiafL278[13:52:45] <nos> It's concurrency.
Yields a loop.
L279[13:52:53] <TheRealBob>
:(){ :|: & };:
<TheRealBob>
:(){ :|: & };:L280[13:53:03] <Z0idburg>
yeah do NOT..
<Z0idburg>
yeah do NOT..L281[13:53:30] <TheRealBob>
:GWaobaWink:
<TheRealBob>
:GWaobaWink:L282[13:53:42] <Z0idburg>
you know its easier but slower running to just remember perl -e
'fork while fork'
<Z0idburg>
you know its easier but slower running to just remember perl -e
'fork while fork'L283[13:56:08] <Z0idburg>
Have a mosfet
<Z0idburg>
Have a mosfetL285[13:56:33] <nos> Well I'll stick with
what people can help me with when I'm in a bind, so... no listeners
then.
L286[13:57:40] <Z0idburg>
OH GOD
<Z0idburg>
OH GODL287[13:57:51] <Z0idburg>
why are you using global variables nos
<Z0idburg>
why are you using global variables nosL288[13:58:25] <nos> I don't know what
__index does though. Seems scary.
L290[13:58:48] <TheRealBob>
__index is a metamethod
<TheRealBob>
__index is a metamethodL291[13:59:01] <nos> Definitely
scary.
L292[13:59:13] <TheRealBob>
yea but when you will get into it its actually incredibly
powerfull
<TheRealBob>
yea but when you will get into it its actually incredibly
powerfullL293[13:59:22] <TheRealBob>
i also struggled to understand what was that scary stuff
<TheRealBob>
i also struggled to understand what was that scary stuffL294[13:59:31] <Z0idburg>
yeah. I recommend avoiding them at all costs but they are nifty if
you are an OOP sort of person
<Z0idburg>
yeah. I recommend avoiding them at all costs but they are nifty if
you are an OOP sort of personL295[13:59:36] <TheRealBob>
^
<TheRealBob>
^L296[13:59:42] <TheRealBob>
*love2d user here*
<TheRealBob>
*love2d user here*L297[14:00:09] <Z0idburg>
the scariest thing I see in nos's code isthe part where it's
like:
<Z0idburg>
the scariest thing I see in nos's code isthe part where it's
like:L298[14:00:32] <TheRealBob>
g l o b a l s
<TheRealBob>
g l o b a l sL300[14:00:39] <TheRealBob>
ye
<TheRealBob>
yeL301[14:00:43] <Z0idburg>
that's super bad practice
<Z0idburg>
that's super bad practiceL302[14:00:52] <TheRealBob>
extremly bad practice
<TheRealBob>
extremly bad practiceL303[14:00:58] <TheRealBob>
you can get arrested by the OC police
<TheRealBob>
you can get arrested by the OC policeL304[14:01:07] <TheRealBob>
they will send out drones to get you
<TheRealBob>
they will send out drones to get youL305[14:02:30] <Z0idburg>
there are several arguments to it but
<Z0idburg>
there are several arguments to it butL306[14:02:38] <Z0idburg>
my argument usually lies in proving what the function does
<Z0idburg>
my argument usually lies in proving what the function doesL307[14:02:51] <Z0idburg>
imagine inlining the function with its own implementation
<Z0idburg>
imagine inlining the function with its own implementationL308[14:03:04] <Z0idburg> i
= 5 function foo() return i = 7 end
<Z0idburg> i
= 5 function foo() return i = 7 endL309[14:03:15] <Z0idburg>
the problem is if I set i to 10
<Z0idburg>
the problem is if I set i to 10L310[14:03:28] <Z0idburg>
sorry return i + 7
<Z0idburg>
sorry return i + 7L311[14:03:39] <nos> hm hm hmmm
L312[14:03:45] <Z0idburg>
if I set i to 10 then the function is now foo() eturn 17 end
<Z0idburg>
if I set i to 10 then the function is now foo() eturn 17 endL313[14:03:58] <Z0idburg>
if i was 0 before, then it was return 7
<Z0idburg>
if i was 0 before, then it was return 7L314[14:04:07] <nos> That works
perfectly!
L315[14:04:12] <Z0idburg>
this means that if i is changed, it ois no longer the same
function
<Z0idburg>
this means that if i is changed, it ois no longer the same
functionL316[14:04:23] <Z0idburg>
it sis now a completely different function that does something
differengt
<Z0idburg>
it sis now a completely different function that does something
differengtL317[14:04:25] <TheRealBob>
nos of course it will work perfectly
<TheRealBob>
nos of course it will work perfectlyL318[14:04:51] <Z0idburg>
this example isn't so scary, but imagine you have a complicated
function, now you have a function that will behave differently
depending on some outside value, which means your functions aren't
always the same
<Z0idburg>
this example isn't so scary, but imagine you have a complicated
function, now you have a function that will behave differently
depending on some outside value, which means your functions aren't
always the sameL319[14:05:04] <Z0idburg>
you can't assume anymore that the result of that function is ever
valid
<Z0idburg>
you can't assume anymore that the result of that function is ever
validL320[14:05:25] <nos> I have no idea how
scope works in lua so I just assumed my trusty old footgun would
work.
L321[14:07:45] <Z0idburg>
My recommendation, and this is just my opinion, never ever use
outside variables besides other functions
<Z0idburg>
My recommendation, and this is just my opinion, never ever use
outside variables besides other functionsL322[14:07:52] <Z0idburg>
and always pass values to them
<Z0idburg>
and always pass values to themL323[14:07:52] <TheRealBob>
^
<TheRealBob>
^L324[14:07:57] <TheRealBob>
try to pass values
<TheRealBob>
try to pass valuesL325[14:08:03] <Z0idburg>
that way the inside of the function will always be predictable and
reduce bugs
<Z0idburg>
that way the inside of the function will always be predictable and
reduce bugsL326[14:08:05] <TheRealBob>
instead of refering to values from different scopes
<TheRealBob>
instead of refering to values from different scopesL327[14:08:12] <TheRealBob>
and localize the values
<TheRealBob>
and localize the valuesL328[14:08:14] <TheRealBob>
300% speed
<TheRealBob>
300% speedL329[14:08:29] <Z0idburg>
bugs where you have invalid data are sometimes REALLY hard to find
when you have 15 functions somewhere all changing that value
<Z0idburg>
bugs where you have invalid data are sometimes REALLY hard to find
when you have 15 functions somewhere all changing that valueL330[14:08:55] <Z0idburg>
the reason why this is so important is because of what I call
Z0idburg's theory
<Z0idburg>
the reason why this is so important is because of what I call
Z0idburg's theoryL331[14:09:15] <TheRealBob>
mmm
<TheRealBob>
mmmL332[14:09:31] <Z0idburg>
which states that "The only thing that can ever cause a
program to crash is invalid state, nothing else; Whether that is
software or even failing hardware, it does not matter."
<Z0idburg>
which states that "The only thing that can ever cause a
program to crash is invalid state, nothing else; Whether that is
software or even failing hardware, it does not matter."L333[14:09:40] <Z0idburg>
don't quote me on that I'm just being silly but it's true
<Z0idburg>
don't quote me on that I'm just being silly but it's trueL334[14:09:53] <Z0idburg>
things will break when invalid state occurs
<Z0idburg>
things will break when invalid state occursL335[14:10:06] <nos> My thoughts on the
matter is that since state is your bread and butter as a
programmer, you always need to be aware of what you have done
before and what you are doing now.
L336[14:10:22] <nos> And the rest is UNIX
philosophy.
L337[14:14:42] <nos> Wait, if I need to
pass values when I don't know what the scope is, don't I always
have to write my loops recursively?
L339[14:19:57] <Z0idburg>
no you dont nos
<Z0idburg>
no you dont nosL340[14:20:03] <Z0idburg>
though I usually do
<Z0idburg>
though I usually doL341[14:20:20] <nos> Can lua handle
infinite recusrsion when I have no intention of ever
unstacking?
L342[14:20:51] <Z0idburg>
Lua has TCO
<Z0idburg>
Lua has TCOL343[14:20:57] <Z0idburg>
so yes
<Z0idburg>
so yesL344[14:21:34] <nos> sexy
L345[14:24:44] <nos> https://pastebin.com/r8F4GDfh
L346[14:24:57] <nos> This was my first
attempt, before trying listeners.
L347[14:25:30] <nos> The extra stuff is
for trying to see if the trivial case works.
L348[14:26:24] <nos> As you can see, I
have no idea what "local" means.
L349[14:28:45] <TheRealBob>
local just localizes the value and makes them only avaible in that
scope and subscopes
<TheRealBob>
local just localizes the value and makes them only avaible in that
scope and subscopesL350[14:29:07] <nos> ah...
L351[14:29:38] <TheRealBob>
aka faster value acces speeds
<TheRealBob>
aka faster value acces speedsL352[14:29:43] <TheRealBob>
and better in general
<TheRealBob>
and better in generalL353[14:29:44] <nos> It kept printing
"n" on a new line, after I had set the string to
"".
L354[14:29:45] <TheRealBob>
cleaner code
<TheRealBob>
cleaner codeL355[14:30:01] <TheRealBob>
"\n" is the newline code
<TheRealBob>
"\n" is the newline codeL356[14:30:02] <TheRealBob>
not "n"
<TheRealBob>
not "n"L357[14:30:04] <TheRealBob>
n is just n
<TheRealBob>
n is just nL358[14:30:09] <TheRealBob>
while \n is newline
<TheRealBob>
while \n is newlineL359[14:31:03] <nos> yeah, I have no idea
where it got the n from. It did variable .. "\n" as per
your instructions
L360[14:31:28] <nos> Now I see it is not
needed.
L361[14:31:39] <TheRealBob>
print does the dirty work
<TheRealBob>
print does the dirty workL362[14:32:16] <TheRealBob>
of concatening the "\n" at the end and "\t"
between arguments
<TheRealBob>
of concatening the "\n" at the end and "\t"
between argumentsL363[14:32:28] <nos> I thought it had
somehow managed to erase the rest of the string but not my player
name.
L364[14:32:49] <TheRealBob>
not include it
<TheRealBob>
not include itL365[14:32:51] <TheRealBob>
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
<TheRealBob>
¯\_(ツ)_/¯L366[14:33:24] <nos> Apparently my unicode
is broken. but yea, *shrug*
L367[14:34:41] <nos> Anyway, much obliged.
Next is getting the motion sensor into a drone to make a security
drone.
L368[14:35:18] <nos> I'm looking to make
something to deter greifing.
L369[14:36:34] <TheRealBob>
Lua doesn't like unicode
<TheRealBob>
Lua doesn't like unicodeL370[14:36:40] <TheRealBob>
but theres now utf8 library
<TheRealBob>
but theres now utf8 libraryL371[14:37:24] <nos> I figure, together
with the geolyzer you could correlate unwanted changes to your
builds with survalance records, and figure out who has been messing
with your stuff.
L372[14:41:16] <TheRealBob>
who ?
<TheRealBob>
who ?L373[14:41:17] <TheRealBob>
mmm
<TheRealBob>
mmmL374[14:41:43] <Zef>
Rimworld straight up uses xml files for its save data
<Zef>
Rimworld straight up uses xml files for its save dataL375[14:49:56] <TheRealBob>
why not ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
<TheRealBob>
why not ¯\_(ツ)_/¯L377[14:53:59] <nos> No one has been
messing with my stuff yet, but I found a nice public server with
many very nice people and a lot of signs of raiding & greifing.
Some really nice builds in abandoned bases have just been
vandalized. I figure, maybe I can help the community...
L378[14:58:02] <nos> And make a killing
selling the system in the market! \o/
L379[14:59:30] <TheRealBob>
Potion bomber drones
<TheRealBob>
Potion bomber dronesL380[14:59:36] <TheRealBob>
since drones are invincible
<TheRealBob>
since drones are invincibleL381[14:59:43] <nos> >:D
L382[14:59:51] <TheRealBob>
Also when this will be fixed, and drone will be able to use potions
and stuff ?
<TheRealBob>
Also when this will be fixed, and drone will be able to use potions
and stuff ?L383[15:00:01] <TheRealBob>
Drones problem is that they are ultra limuted
<TheRealBob>
Drones problem is that they are ultra limutedL384[15:00:08] <TheRealBob>
max 4kb
<TheRealBob>
max 4kbL385[15:00:26] <nos> well there is getting
code wirelessly
L386[15:00:51] <TheRealBob>
Yep network but drones are as i said limited, i dont think the tier
1 wireless card has a big range
<TheRealBob>
Yep network but drones are as i said limited, i dont think the tier
1 wireless card has a big rangeL387[15:01:36] <nos> I'm not sure how to
fit motion sensing, navigation, and decent range into it.
L388[15:02:52] <nos> Maybe, have a whole
swarm of them, with specializations.
L389[15:03:22] <nos> But then 4kB is
getting tight.
L390[15:04:17] <nos> Anyway, bedtime. I'll
bother you again tomorrow! :D
L391[15:05:11] <Inari> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/485204327800242177/579992854747807754/image0.jpg
L392[15:07:34] <Skye> Inari, is that
you
L393[15:07:48] <Inari> Nah
L394[15:07:51] <Inari> I wouldn't wear
such a bag
L395[15:07:51] <Inari> :p
L396[15:09:55] <Lizzy> %lua 8 * 125
L397[15:09:55] <MichiBot> 1000
L398[15:10:05] <Lizzy> %lua 8 *
125000
L399[15:10:05] <MichiBot> 1000000
L400[15:10:09] <Lizzy> k
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L402[15:13:50] <Inari> What you
calcing?
L403[15:16:01] <Lizzy> fluid stuff in
factorio
L404[15:17:16] <CompanionCube>
%tonkout
L405[15:17:16] <MichiBot> I'm sorry
CompanionCube, you were not able to beat Forecaster's record of 13
hours, 36 minutes and 44 seconds this time. 3 hours, 15 minutes and
9 seconds were wasted! Missed by 10 hours, 21 minutes and 34
seconds!
L406[15:17:27] <CompanionCube> fuck which
tonk did i miss
L407[15:18:09] <Forecaster>
that second calculating was a tad pointless wasn't it :P
<Forecaster>
that second calculating was a tad pointless wasn't it :PL408[15:18:16] <Forecaster>
calculation*
<Forecaster>
calculation*L409[15:18:57] <CompanionCube> uh
L410[15:19:07] <CompanionCube> i can't
find a tonk ~3h ago
L411[15:19:32] <CompanionCube> ah, there
it is
L412[15:19:33] <Forecaster>
remember to also search for tonkout
<Forecaster>
remember to also search for tonkoutL413[15:36:40] ⇦
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L414[15:47:46] <TheRealBob>
Inari where can i get that bad ?, already having an ahegao hoodie
that i would like to complete with something
<TheRealBob>
Inari where can i get that bad ?, already having an ahegao hoodie
that i would like to complete with somethingL415[15:49:35] <AmandaC> b-b-b-bad
L416[15:50:45] <TheRealBob>
Prove me wrong
<TheRealBob>
Prove me wrongL417[15:54:46] <AmandaC> huh?
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L419[16:32:09] <Z0idburg>
back
<Z0idburg>
backL420[16:35:50] <Forecaster>
away
<Forecaster>
awayL421[16:36:13] <AmandaC> from
L422[16:36:36] <TheRealBob>
some
<TheRealBob>
someL423[16:44:06] <alexandria> what is
%tonkout
L424[16:44:39] <alexandria> %tonkout
L425[16:44:39] <MichiBot> I'm sorry
alexandria, you were not able to beat Forecaster's record of 13
hours, 36 minutes and 44 seconds this time. 1 hour, 27 minutes and
23 seconds were wasted! Missed by 12 hours, 9 minutes and 21
seconds!
L426[16:45:10] <Forecaster>
it's a game of calculating times, which we're all terrible at
<Forecaster>
it's a game of calculating times, which we're all terrible atL427[16:47:23] <Z0idburg>
unchallenged!
<Z0idburg>
unchallenged!L428[16:53:47] ⇦
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L429[17:00:21] <Z0idburg>
lol
<Z0idburg>
lolL430[17:13:03] ⇦
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L431[17:14:12] <Z0idburg> I
need a word
<Z0idburg> I
need a wordL432[17:15:50] <Forecaster>
"pancake"
<Forecaster>
"pancake"L433[17:16:05] <Inari> your
pancakefulness
L434[17:16:52] <Z0idburg>
ꟼancake
<Z0idburg>
ꟼancakeL435[17:16:55] <Z0idburg>
hmm
<Z0idburg>
hmmL436[17:22:36] <Skye> alexandria: tonk is
a game where you get points by "tonking" after the last
tonk by at least the amount of time between previous tonks.
L437[17:23:09] <Forecaster>
you actually get more points the larger the gap is
<Forecaster>
you actually get more points the larger the gap isL438[17:23:12] <Skye> Tonking out gets
more points and resets the cumulative time to zero to start
again
L439[17:31:06] <Z0idburg>
it also makes me angry
<Z0idburg>
it also makes me angryL440[17:31:08] <Z0idburg>
?
<Z0idburg>
?L441[17:31:19] <Z0idburg>
just kidding
<Z0idburg>
just kiddingL442[17:33:01] <Z0idburg>
OOH!
<Z0idburg>
OOH!L443[17:33:10] <Z0idburg>
Guess what Skye
<Z0idburg>
Guess what SkyeL444[17:33:52] <Z0idburg>
UMaine is getting the largest 3D printer in the world
<Z0idburg>
UMaine is getting the largest 3D printer in the worldL445[17:34:10] <Z0idburg>
they're going to make boat molds with it
<Z0idburg>
they're going to make boat molds with itL446[17:54:33] <Skye> Dun dun dun
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L448[18:05:34] <gamerred>
guys for the refined storage open computer code why come to import
I need to type exportItem?
<gamerred>
guys for the refined storage open computer code why come to import
I need to type exportItem?L449[18:17:34] <Zef> Go ask
the creators of refined storage
<Zef> Go ask
the creators of refined storageL450[18:21:19] <TheRealBob>
a e 2
<TheRealBob>
a e 2L451[18:23:45] <gamerred>
ah its there fault its a tad weird to do then zef?
<gamerred>
ah its there fault its a tad weird to do then zef?L452[18:36:34] <Zef>
Yes
<Zef>
YesL453[18:36:38] <Zef> They
wrote the api
<Zef> They
wrote the apiL454[18:51:34] ⇦
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L455[19:06:51] <Z0idburg>
Huh
<Z0idburg>
HuhL456[19:06:57] <Z0idburg> I
doin't see anything about exportItem?
<Z0idburg> I
doin't see anything about exportItem?L457[19:10:02] <Z0idburg>
people need to stop with the camel case
<Z0idburg>
people need to stop with the camel caseL458[19:10:04] <Z0idburg>
its ugly af
<Z0idburg>
its ugly afL459[19:10:06] <Z0idburg>
and unreadable
<Z0idburg>
and unreadableL460[20:02:19] ⇦
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L474[23:14:18] <nos> Getting Enrecoverable
Error; computer halted on boot again.
L475[23:19:08] <nos> work now...
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