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L7[03:00:38] <CompanionCube> %tonkout
L8[03:00:41] <MichiBot> Fopdoodle! CompanionCube! You beat your own previous record of 11 hours, 44 minutes and 31 seconds (By 22 minutes and 25 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L9[03:00:42] <MichiBot> CompanionCube has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.012 tonk points! plus 0.022 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 0.35526
L10[03:00:46] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swpqYIBjK1E I need more of this kinda stuff
L11[03:00:47] <MichiBot> [KokuRadio] Yet another listener got banned! Also... My Pace? | length: 8m 46s | Likes: 219 Dislikes: 1 Views: 6,084 | by koemonogatari subs | Published On 16/3/2019
L12[03:06:54] <Forecaster> %restart
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L16[03:07:28] <Inari> %drink Forecaster
L17[03:07:58] <Forecaster> nope :P
L18[03:08:05] <Forecaster> just improved colors
L19[03:08:05] <MichiBot> This doesn't seem to be a potion I recognize...
L20[03:08:10] <Forecaster> %potion
L21[03:08:11] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You get a warpy citrus potion (New!)
L22[03:08:14] <Forecaster> %sip ^
L23[03:08:15] <MichiBot> Forecaster gains an extra strand of hair on their face.
L24[03:08:16] <Inari> Psh
L25[03:08:18] <Forecaster> aw
L26[03:10:51] <Inari> %potion
L27[03:10:51] <MichiBot> Inari: You get a viscous metal potion (New!)
L28[03:10:53] <Inari> %drink ^
L29[03:10:54] <MichiBot> Inari gains the ability to talk to waters.
L30[03:10:59] <Inari> Uuhhh
L31[03:11:00] <Inari> Okay
L32[03:12:09] <Forecaster> oh xD
L33[03:12:18] <Forecaster> that's amusing
L34[03:13:11] <Forecaster> "water" is from the "transformation" function, and "waters" is because pluralizer
L35[03:14:00] <Inari> Heh
L36[04:00:18] <Lizzy> %tonk
L37[04:00:19] <MichiBot> Zounderkite! Lizzy! You beat CompanionCube's previous record of <0 (By 59 minutes and 40 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L38[04:00:20] <MichiBot> Lizzy's new record is 59 minutes and 40 seconds! Lizzy also gained 0.00099 tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L39[04:16:00] <Izaya> https://i.redd.it/kv9qls0tcmt21.png
L40[04:27:45] * Izaya pokes Lizzy
L41[04:27:51] <Izaya> any idea what's going on with oc.cil.li?
L42[04:28:02] <Izaya> ain't working for me
L43[04:28:38] <Lizzy> define "aint working"
L44[04:28:43] <Lizzy> cause it's working for me
L45[04:29:19] <Izaya> https://imgur.com/Rl9Hvfy.png
L46[04:29:30] <Izaya> curl: (6) Could not resolve host: oc.cil.li
L47[04:29:48] <Lizzy> hmm
L48[04:30:03] <Lizzy> does drill oc.cil.li output anything?
L49[04:30:27] <Forecaster> I can access oc.cil.li
L50[04:31:00] <Izaya> Error: error sending query: Could not send or receive, because of network error
L51[04:31:06] <Izaya> guess it's a bizarro error on my end
L52[04:31:30] <Lizzy> yep, seems that way
L53[04:31:39] <Izaya> cool
L54[04:32:03] <Izaya> maybe it's time to restart my desktop and router
L55[04:32:10] <Izaya> 19:32:05 up 8 days, 9:01, 4 users, load average: 1.98, 2.12, 2.09
L56[04:32:25] * Lizzy is currently going through and making sure none of her accounts use an old password because a spam email that she got through to her gmail account had it in the subject
L57[04:32:31] <Izaya> 09:32:26 up 58 days, 19:54, load average: 0.07, 0.01, 0.00
L58[04:32:34] * Izaya nods
L59[04:33:31] <Izaya> I really need to invest in like
L60[04:33:33] <Izaya> a real router
L61[04:33:49] <Izaya> alternatively, a smol server
L62[04:33:56] <Forecaster> what do you have now? a juice box with "router" written on it?
L63[04:33:59] <Izaya> yes
L64[04:34:09] <Izaya> a blue one with two straws stuck in it
L65[04:34:20] <Izaya> has WRT54GL written on it in texta
L66[04:34:28] <Forecaster> it probably has great reception then
L67[04:34:33] <Izaya> oh yes
L68[04:34:34] <Forecaster> straws are the best antennas
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L70[04:38:54] <Lizzy> hmm, i have found one place where that old password is used....
L71[04:39:19] <Lizzy> but i can't sign into it because creeperhost's got some weird setup where you have to have an active order to get into the client area
L72[04:39:38] <Lizzy> so i'm just going to contact them and ask them to remove my account
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L74[04:40:29] <Izaya> cool
L75[04:40:36] <Izaya> Still not resolving
L76[04:41:44] <Lizzy> weird
L77[04:41:57] <Lizzy> in other news, lets hope creeperhost actually delete my account
L78[04:44:27] <Lizzy> Izaya, if it's still not working, oc.cil.li points to 213.32.62.228 if you wanna add that into your /etc/hosts until whatever issue you have is fixed
L79[04:44:48] <Izaya> yeah okay
L80[04:44:51] <Izaya> wonk
L81[04:46:45] <Izaya> fug
L82[04:46:51] <Izaya> minitel topic is archived
L83[04:48:08] <Lizzy> got a link? I can go unarchive it
L84[04:48:36] <Izaya> https://oc.cil.li/index.php?/topic/1556-minitel/
L85[04:49:38] <Lizzy> well, i unarchived it but nothing has happened... hmm
L86[04:51:08] <Lizzy> aand i can't get into the admin control panel cause 2fa is fucked...
L87[04:51:37] <Lizzy> "You have failed authentication too many times. You will be able to try again 11:22 AM."
L88[04:51:40] * Lizzy sighs
L89[04:54:01] <Lizzy> Izaya, hopefully it'll unfuck itself, if not i'll look at it in about 30 minutes
L90[04:54:23] <Izaya> Seems to have unarchived
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L92[04:57:12] <Lizzy> yay
L93[04:58:19] <Inari> AmandaC: Myaa-nee!
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L96[06:28:13] <Lizzian> this top desk bit was completely flat when i got it (and no, that's not a camera trick, that's how it is) http://tinyurl.com/y4a7s82m
L97[06:28:43] <Izaya> :D
L98[06:28:52] <Izaya> that's why you need metal reinforcement underneath
L99[06:30:04] * AmandaC boops Inari, meows
L100[06:30:28] <Bob> won't it melt one day complelty
L101[06:30:28] <Lizzy> i have a bit of re-inforcement on the top (bit of 90-degree metal) but it's not long enough to go the whole length and was added in after it had started bowing
L102[06:30:33] <Bob> and be all over your setups
L103[06:32:32] <Lizzy> well, it's wood so it wont "melt" but it'd probably snap at some point and just drop my monitors straight down onto my lower desk and also throw off whatver else was on top
L104[06:33:25] * Izaya is pretty much at the point of building their own desks
L105[06:33:40] <Izaya> I can weld and cut holes, what can go wrong?
L106[06:34:36] <Izaya> side note, if you want a really good, simple desk
L107[06:34:42] <Izaya> a frame that fits a solid door on top
L108[06:35:25] <Bob> i have nothign to lose really
L109[06:35:35] <Bob> my setup is really old and lost any value
L110[06:35:52] <Lizzian> This is what my desk looks like (though currently with a lot more shit on/around it) http://tinyurl.com/y485lswf
L111[06:36:22] <Bob> everything is on my desk, i can't leave it on the ground
L112[06:36:22] <Izaya> that's a second table on the table, right?
L113[06:36:33] <Bob> seems so behind
L114[06:36:43] <Lizzy> yes
L115[06:36:58] <Lizzy> the same flat bit on both the top and bottom parts
L116[06:37:05] <Izaya> https://social.shadowkat.net/media/faf9f7c5-5782-4ddd-b142-d0b6c7ad1075/cr.jpg
L117[06:37:12] <Lizzy> just the top part didn't have the drawers to help support it
L118[06:38:37] <Izaya> thinking I should get a hotswap 3.5" bay for the 5.25" slot on the front of my machine
L119[06:38:56] <Lizzy> i'm currently taking it all down to see if there's anything i can do to straighten it out/re-inforce it
L120[06:39:14] <Izaya> leave it on a flat surface in the rain for a day
L121[06:39:23] <Izaya> it'll straighten out but the cover may peel
L122[06:39:35] <Forecaster> %potion
L123[06:39:37] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You get a viscous rust potion (New!)
L124[06:39:40] <Forecaster> %sip ^
L125[06:39:40] <MichiBot> Forecaster shrinks by a negligible amount.
L126[06:39:46] <Lizzy> i'm not too fussed about the cover
L127[06:39:49] <Forecaster> dangit
L128[06:39:52] <Lizzy> it was from ikea
L129[06:40:03] <Izaya> if it's chipboard it'll flake without the cover
L130[06:40:05] <Lizzy> so not the most glamourous thing in the world
L131[06:43:14] <Izaya> so this happened recently and is neat https://0x0.st/zqkI.htm
L132[06:46:58] <Bob> its a relay show off
L133[06:47:28] <Izaya> you know it
L134[06:47:39] <Bob> the most scary part is that youre using mek, tought recently there has been a fork group that teamed up with the original authoer nad they fianlly made the mod not a pile of bugs
L135[06:48:01] <Izaya> (not actually my video)
L136[06:48:26] <Izaya> recent minitel change significantly reduces unnecessary network traffic
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L138[06:50:24] <Lizzy> so similar to what decent switches do with similar to caching the MAC address?
L139[06:51:36] <Izaya> no, that was always there
L140[06:52:22] <Izaya> it keeps a cache of hostname = {local modem, remote modem}
L141[06:52:27] <Izaya> that's been in there since day one
L142[06:52:43] <Lizzy> ah, route caching?
L143[06:52:49] <Izaya> aye
L144[06:52:58] <Izaya> the change is that if you only have one wired NIC, you won't repeat packets even if routing packets is enabled
L145[06:53:53] <Izaya> (wireless NICs will still relay messages, and if you have more than one like the server, you'll only repeat packets to NICs other than the one you received the message on)
L146[06:55:17] <Izaya> said repeated messages have always been ignored but they'd still use relay resources
L147[06:56:44] <Izaya> now they just won't get sent if it doesn't make sense :D
L148[07:06:26] <Lizzy> this feels so weird now... i removed the top-desk part of my desk and it's now so open
L149[07:07:41] <Z0idburg> Izaya, is that a thrustmaster?
L150[07:07:49] <Izaya> no
L151[07:07:53] <Z0idburg> aww
L152[07:07:56] <Izaya> chinese Saitek X45 ripoff
L153[07:08:16] <Z0idburg> faster shipping right?
L154[07:08:17] <Z0idburg> :)D
L155[07:08:25] <Izaya> much cheaper also
L156[07:09:03] <Z0idburg> I'm so excited
L157[07:09:20] * Izaya is rather excited about Valve's new headset
L158[07:09:24] <Z0idburg> Status Out for Delivery
L159[07:09:46] <Izaya> also did you like the change S3? :D
L160[07:09:59] <Z0idburg> I'm surprised it got here so fast, it shipped from north carolina on friday aftrrnoon
L161[07:10:01] <Z0idburg> uh
L162[07:10:07] <Z0idburg> the change..
L163[07:10:15] <Izaya> (see htm file above)
L164[07:10:29] <Izaya> (credit where credit'
L165[07:10:42] <Izaya> s due, ba7888b72413a16a wrote the code to make it actually do that)
L166[07:11:05] <Z0idburg> did they finally make vlans or something?
L167[07:11:24] <Z0idburg> is this something Trotwood will appreciate?
L168[07:11:30] <Z0idburg> OH ITS A VIDEO
L169[07:11:40] <Izaya> nah just got rid of redundant repeating of messages on the source NIC
L170[07:12:20] <Z0idburg> aha
L171[07:12:25] <Z0idburg> and its part of the OC base now?
L172[07:12:56] <Izaya> the change is present in both the minitel reference implementations and the standards now :D
L173[07:13:13] <Z0idburg> oh its a software solution?
L174[07:13:19] <Izaya> yup
L175[07:13:24] <Z0idburg> so how does that work
L176[07:13:33] <Z0idburg> I thought the hardware had the issue
L177[07:13:49] <Izaya> no it's just a case of minitel previously dumbly repeated packets on all NICs
L178[07:14:00] <Z0idburg> hmmmm
L179[07:14:07] <Z0idburg> I could have sworn I've seen that happen anyways
L180[07:14:09] <Z0idburg> due to relays
L181[07:14:15] <Izaya> now it doesn't repeat the packets to the source NIC if it's a wired NIC
L182[07:14:49] <Z0idburg> huh
L183[07:15:24] <Izaya> this means computers on a wired network with one NIC don't spam the LAN, wireless mesh nets work as well as ever, and routers are better at their jobs
L184[07:15:26] <Izaya> :D
L185[07:15:54] <Z0idburg> heh
L186[07:16:44] <S3> I realize that rewriting the trotwood core in Selene can be done at any time so I'm going to ignore that
L187[07:18:16] <S3> I need to get callbacks to work, write the CSV database library so config files will work and bootup will work, finish like one or two things witg gtty, and of course write a filesystem driver. and plug in the tiny ammount of code for the VFS
L188[07:18:20] <S3> the VFS will be so tiny
L189[07:18:34] <Izaya> I rewrote the PsychOS2 I/O library
L190[07:18:40] <Izaya> down from several KB to about 500 bytes
L191[07:19:17] <S3> the VFS just redirects open() and handles mountpoints which are literally just adding to and removingf rom a table
L192[07:19:32] <S3> so the code for the VFS will be crazily short I bet
L193[07:19:37] <Izaya> tbh I should re-write the whole thing again
L194[07:19:49] <Izaya> starting with the fs library
L195[07:20:06] <Izaya> make it use unified fds, then abuse those with the I/O library
L196[07:20:53] <S3> if I handle unmanaged filesystems I should consider providing a seek()
L197[07:20:57] * Lizzy grumbles about not easilly being able to find some L-shaped metal beams
L198[07:21:10] <S3> the problem is, I can't provide seek on managed filesystems without wasting memory
L199[07:21:13] <S3> \can I?
L200[07:21:22] <Izaya> I thought they had seek anyway
L201[07:21:23] <S3> unless the filesystem cpmponent lets me do it
L202[07:21:29] <Izaya> ~w component:filesystem
L203[07:21:29] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:filesystem
L204[07:21:35] <S3> hmm
L205[07:22:05] <S3> I guess it does
L206[07:22:14] <S3> this is great news. I'll just make the fs driver redirect it
L207[07:22:23] <S3> for what I call "ocfs"
L208[07:22:32] <S3> I mean what else you gonna call it
L209[07:22:41] <Inari> s3fs
L210[07:22:50] <S3> No the managed one
L211[07:22:53] <Izaya> sssfs
L212[07:22:56] <Inari> s3mfs
L213[07:22:57] <S3> lol
L214[07:23:01] <S3> wut
L215[07:23:05] <Izaya> fsss
L216[07:23:08] <S3> Smurfs?
L217[07:23:10] <Inari> sssssssssssss
L218[07:23:19] <S3> S3murfs
L219[07:23:33] <S3> pronounced "semurfs"
L220[07:23:39] <S3> that might sound wrong actually
L221[07:23:42] <Inari> "murf" sounds familiar somehow
L222[07:23:45] <Inari> But I can't place why
L223[07:23:59] <Izaya> S3: https://github.com/ShadowKatStudios/OC-Minitel/commit/02e4eb1794fc11785b8e3cbd216244b5a6501462
L224[07:25:11] <S3> huh
L225[07:25:24] <S3> its because Inari is awesome that's why
L226[07:25:34] <Inari> ?
L227[07:25:46] <S3> you can't place why murf sounds familiar
L228[07:25:59] <Inari> I can't do it because I'm awesome? That makes no sense
L229[07:26:14] <S3> makes perfect sense
L230[07:26:42] <S3> Even I don't understand it
L231[07:27:23] <S3> Izaya: who the hell is booty-bumping
L232[07:27:23] <S3> rofl
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L234[07:28:29] * Izaya points at ba7888b72413a16a
L235[07:28:50] <S3> oh hey we're saved
L236[07:29:22] <S3> the good news t20kdc is that seek() is available in component filesystem, so seek() won't break things with managed filesystem support in Trotwood.
L237[07:29:47] <S3> Because I was NOT going to implement it
L238[07:30:15] <Izaya> why doesn't the mumble overlay work over the top of minecraft? :<
L239[07:30:24] <Izaya> oh
L240[07:30:40] <Izaya> As described in our linux README to use the Overlay in an application you start hat appliaction through the mumble-overlay binary
L241[07:30:43] <Forecaster> %tonk
L242[07:30:44] <MichiBot> Zounderkite! Forecaster! You beat Lizzy's previous record of 59 minutes and 40 seconds (By 2 hours, 30 minutes and 45 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L243[07:30:45] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 3 hours, 30 minutes and 25 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.00251 tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L244[07:31:00] <Lizzy> :<
L245[07:31:20] <Forecaster> meep meep
L246[07:31:42] <Z0idburg> Lizzy do you guys have steel works near you?
L247[07:31:55] <Lizzy> idk
L248[07:32:12] <Z0idburg> in the town just across the river, few minutes drive there's a steel works where they will cut any kind of steel you ask for
L249[07:32:18] <Z0idburg> even ingots
L250[07:32:55] <Lizzy> oh cool, there's one really close by me
L251[07:33:27] <Z0idburg> if they have a public facing office then you may be able to inquire if they can prepare some metal for you
L252[07:34:39] <Lizzy> yeah, i think they do (or at the very least they have a contact form on their website)
L253[07:35:18] <Z0idburg> some places are only designed for large orders from businesses
L254[07:35:27] <Z0idburg> or built for a particular business
L255[07:35:39] <Z0idburg> but I appreciate the friendly ones
L256[07:35:53] * Lizzy isn't sure
L257[07:36:35] <Z0idburg> 8888888888888888hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhnb
L258[07:36:47] <Z0idburg> fucking cat
L259[07:39:02] <Bob> welcome
L260[07:39:39] <t20kdc> Z0idburg: hey, don't insult our gods
L261[07:39:55] <t20kdc> Z0idburg: yes cat what is your message to us
L262[07:39:57] <Izaya> /usr/bin/java: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib64/mumble/libmumble.so.1: undefined symbol: glPopClientAttrib
L263[07:39:59] <Izaya> nice
L264[07:49:48] <Izaya> https://randomascii.wordpress.com/2019/04/21/on2-in-createprocess/
L265[07:53:31] <Z0idburg> LOL
L266[07:54:14] <Izaya> I present that without comment but with quite a bit of laughter.
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L268[07:58:23] <simon816> relevant: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/publication/a-fork-in-the-road/
L269[07:59:00] <t20kdc> oh look, the one group which doesn't have a good fork() implementation complains about fork()
L270[07:59:52] <Izaya> remember, if microsoft can't do it right, it's not worth doing
L271[07:59:59] * Izaya peers at the concept of security
L272[08:00:25] <t20kdc> I think Control Flow Guard is interesting, buuut Google were doing it first
L273[08:00:54] <Z0idburg> Something tels me this guy doesn't know how fork() actually works
L274[08:00:56] <Z0idburg> and exec()
L275[08:01:16] <Inari> t20kdc: Fork makes no sense to have nowadays
L276[08:02:40] <Z0idburg> Why would you ever say that
L277[08:03:03] <McMaartenz> is there the possibility of making a thread that checks for touches?
L278[08:03:13] <Izaya> ~w event
L279[08:03:13] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:event
L280[08:03:16] <Izaya> register a listener
L281[08:03:24] <McMaartenz> yes I know that part
L282[08:03:35] <McMaartenz> but the thread part
L283[08:03:45] <Izaya> do you need a thread if you have a listener
L284[08:03:47] <Z0idburg> whats the difference
L285[08:03:57] <Z0idburg> thread or no thread its all the same
L286[08:03:59] <McMaartenz> ?
L287[08:04:06] <McMaartenz> okay I'm dumb
L288[08:04:11] <McMaartenz> thanks for the advice
L289[08:05:38] <Z0idburg> I think multiprocessing is much more useful for stability than anything I'd want
L290[08:05:51] <Inari> @Z0idburg well, it creates a copy of the current program. Traditionally that was a clever way to do it, but it's rarely ever what you actually want to do.
L291[08:05:53] <Z0idburg> sounds like heresey but
L292[08:06:20] <Z0idburg> fork() is a lot more lightweight than one would think though
L293[08:06:28] <Z0idburg> it's not as bad as a copy sounds
L294[08:06:40] <Inari> It's still not what you actually want
L295[08:06:53] <Inari> Why would you use something you don't want to create something you want eventually, instaed of just creating what you want
L296[08:07:11] <t20kdc> Because in the intervening time you have arbitrary control over the environment of the new process.
L297[08:07:32] <t20kdc> I'd say fork() is useful in cases where you need to have good control over privileges & the like.
L298[08:07:43] <Inari> Cool, and you don't with a proper process creation call? :p
L299[08:07:55] <simon816> I've used fork so I can have multiple workers crunching numbers on the same dataset
L300[08:07:56] <t20kdc> A proper process creation call that, what, takes a hundred different arguments?
L301[08:08:06] <t20kdc> Arguments that all just represent ways to change the process that you already have?
L302[08:08:10] <Inari> t20kdc: Most of which you'll never touch
L303[08:08:23] <Inari> If I want to make a process, Iw ant ot make a process
L304[08:08:26] <Inari> Not clone my current process
L305[08:08:29] <Inari> %actualshrug
L306[08:08:29] <MichiBot> Inari: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L307[08:08:40] <t20kdc> If you're not going to touch most of the arguments, then why have them?
L308[08:08:48] <Inari> Why have fork?
L309[08:09:02] <t20kdc> Because with fork you don't have to specify all that stuff if it's not relevant.
L310[08:09:16] <Inari> And neither you have to if you just use a ddefault procss creation call
L311[08:09:44] <t20kdc> To be clear, I'm not saying fork()+exec() should be used for literally everything, spawn() exists.
L312[08:10:05] <t20kdc> But claiming it's useless is ignoring a lot of perfectly valid usecases that would involve tons of pointless parameters if implemented in any other way.
L313[08:10:25] <Z0idburg> I'd be happy with just Erlang processes
L314[08:10:26] <Inari> I prefer parameters over messy code between fork and exec or something
L315[08:10:30] <Z0idburg> Erlang processes EVERYWHERE
L316[08:10:41] <Z0idburg> fill the ram with erlang processes
L317[08:11:10] <t20kdc> In what way is the code between fork and exec messy?
L318[08:11:17] <Inari> s/erlang/psychobitch/
L319[08:11:18] <MichiBot> <Z0idburg> fill the ram with psychobitch processes
L320[08:11:19] <t20kdc> It just sets up the environment for the new process.
L321[08:11:25] <Z0idburg> LOL
L322[08:11:49] <Inari> t20kdc: It's in a weird limbo state, and not standardized. If I want to createa process I should tell the process creation what I want and get my process. Not do weird stuff myself
L323[08:11:52] <Z0idburg> tbh
L324[08:11:55] <Z0idburg> Lua needs fork()
L325[08:11:58] <Z0idburg> for coroutines
L326[08:12:52] <t20kdc> Inari: Aaaand require a metric ton of arguments and substructures to specify every possible option.
L327[08:12:52] <Z0idburg> this way I can do fork while fork
L328[08:13:10] <Inari> t20kdc: Only the ones you want to specify :P
L329[08:13:52] <t20kdc> No, not really. You'd have to turn the thing into a bunch of pointers-to-structs containing pointers-to-structs to get that level of control.
L330[08:13:54] <t20kdc> Ooooor...
L331[08:14:02] <t20kdc> you could specify the parameters you want to specify through some sort of builder interface...
L332[08:14:09] <t20kdc> ...like fork, <do stuff>, and exec.
L333[08:14:26] <Inari> Or do_stuff, create_process
L334[08:14:27] <Inari> \o/
L335[08:14:45] <t20kdc> Sounds like an amazingly redundant bunch of APIs.
L336[08:15:59] <t20kdc> Literally just a rephrasing, little-to-no benefits against fork(), requires a ton of code to handle all the different types of stuff you'd want to do before creating a process that only applies to that process.
L337[08:16:09] <t20kdc> You don't want to do this stuff to *your own process* after all.
L338[08:17:55] <S3> WTH
L339[08:18:01] <simon816> as the research paper suggests, posix_spawn is the new way to create processes
L340[08:18:06] <S3> one of my cats is balancing on the boot that's on my foot
L341[08:18:17] <S3> WHY do you do this cat
L342[08:18:44] <S3> IU don't think it's a bad way
L343[08:18:48] <S3> but I do have one thing to say
L344[08:18:59] <S3> F* posix
L345[08:19:06] <S3> we don't need it
L346[08:19:15] <t20kdc> We do need POSIX stuff to keep things standardized.
L347[08:19:19] <t20kdc> But that said.
L348[08:19:34] <t20kdc> posix_spawn's manual page explicitly states it's a subset of the functionality for a specific use-case.
L349[08:19:49] <S3> I am building a system at home that is 100% anti posix
L350[08:19:51] <S3> XD
L351[08:19:58] <S3> because why not
L352[08:20:06] <t20kdc> And that's already got 6 arguments.
L353[08:20:53] <t20kdc> A posix_spawn that could actually handle all the use-cases of fork()/exec() would be several times more complicated.
L354[08:21:10] <t20kdc> This is not to say that posix_spawn isn't useful when you don't need to do all of that.
L355[08:23:12] <Z0idburg> COME ON MAILMAN
L356[08:23:15] <Z0idburg> get your butt to my door
L357[08:23:22] <Z0idburg> I'm witin on a part
L358[08:25:28] <Z0idburg> if he comes here before 5 minutes from now I can drive to work in my other car
L359[08:25:32] <Z0idburg> if not I have to take this car
L360[08:28:24] <Izaya> https://0x0.st/zqdJ.png
L361[08:30:50] <Izaya> Lab space. 4 block under-floor cable space too :D
L362[08:30:57] <Z0idburg> I am going to head ou tthe door and the moment I drive away the MAILMAN WILL ARRIVE
L363[08:31:00] <Z0idburg> like a troll
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L365[08:31:52] <Karim> fdp
L366[08:31:53] <Karim> fdp
L367[08:31:53] <Karim> fdp
L368[08:31:53] <Karim> fdp
L369[08:31:53] <Karim> fdp
L370[08:31:53] <Karim> fdp
L371[08:31:54] <Karim> fdp
L372[08:31:54] <Karim> fdp
L373[08:32:05] <Bob> hahahaha
L374[08:32:09] <Bob> spam ban soon
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L376[08:32:19] <Bob> Feuille de papier
L377[08:32:25] <Bob> :GWjiangPepeThumb:
L378[08:33:09] <Izaya> long form emotes ... could be worse, really.
L379[08:33:47] <Izaya> At least they have vague meaning, unlike unicode pictures
L380[08:34:04] <Inari> Unicode pics have meaning?
L381[08:37:31] <Bob> braille art /shrug
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L383[08:58:52] <Lizzy> a solution hath been found in the form of soem galvanised steel L-beams which me and my dad are going to pick up shortly
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L390[10:51:42] <Inari> AmandaC: https://tenor.com/K0Aw.gif am bored
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L396[11:38:44] <Inari> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/309529094452936705/569924951482826755/58032960_1265054056989993_4076829656542609408_n.png
L397[11:44:47] <McMaartenz> Thanks Izaya, event listener was exactly what I needed :D
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L400[12:19:57] <ayangd> FINALLY!!! Yeah
L401[12:20:12] <ayangd> Got the traceIngredients fixed
L402[12:20:20] <ayangd> https://github.com/ayangd/oc-automate_everything
L403[12:23:30] <ayangd> Tell me if somebody see an incorrect result of that function
L404[12:23:47] <ayangd> Tell me if anyone see an incorrect result of that function [Edited]
L405[12:24:21] <Inari> Do unittests
L406[12:26:23] <ayangd> What is that?
L407[12:29:07] <ayangd> You try it
L408[12:48:59] <Inari> @ayangd automated tests
L409[12:49:36] <ayangd> I want people test it for them and me :p
L410[12:51:41] <Bob> make people yourself
L411[12:51:43] <Bob> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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L413[12:53:33] <GSFTec> Hello everybody
L414[12:53:52] <Forecaster> hi
L415[12:54:31] <ayangd> Now, I'll be working on robot replication XD
L416[12:54:39] <ayangd> Yeash
L417[12:54:54] <ayangd> Finally I can move on
L418[12:55:30] <ayangd> After fixing that `traceIngredients` function for about 3 hours
L419[13:00:25] <GSFTec> I would like to submit an error correction for a lua script. Is a "maintainer" present for the opencomputers "repository"
L420[13:00:29] <GSFTec> ?
L421[13:00:57] <Inari> GSFTec: Just make a pull request? What error?
L422[13:01:19] <Bob> if you cant Pull request we can
L423[13:01:24] <Bob> just telll whats up
L424[13:01:39] <GSFTec> TCP stack connectivity
L425[13:02:03] <Inari> Be more specific?
L426[13:02:11] <MGR> That's in the OpenComputers GitHub repository?
L427[13:02:17] <MGR> Which repository are you referring to?
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L429[13:04:02] <GSFTec> if you try to open this connection, then only in rare cases the "channel" can be set up
L430[13:04:18] <MGR> You need to answer our questions though
L431[13:04:30] <MGR> Because we don't know what you're talking about
L432[13:04:33] <Inari> Which connection? What does your code do? What is the error?
L433[13:04:39] <Inari> How do you plan to fix it?
L434[13:05:05] <Bob> lack of infos
L435[13:05:09] <TheAlmostGenius> Hi all
L436[13:05:15] <Inari> %hi
L437[13:05:18] <Inari> %Hello
L438[13:05:18] <MichiBot> Inari: Hello! Welcome to #oc! The one and only opencomputers channel! Please ask your questions directly (dont ask to ask) and provide error/code examples! (Use pastebin.com if theyre more than one line!) Dont mind the random conversation you might have walked into.
L439[13:05:19] <MGR> %hello
L440[13:05:20] <MichiBot> MGR: Hello! Welcome to #oc! The one and only opencomputers channel! Please ask your questions directly (dont ask to ask) and provide error/code examples! (Use pastebin.com if theyre more than one line!) Dont mind the random conversation you might have walked into.
L441[13:05:21] <Bob> Henlo
L442[13:05:26] <Bob> oof
L443[13:05:27] <Inari> %bap @Bob
L444[13:05:27] * MichiBot baps @Bob with rat with wings
L445[13:05:46] <Bob> %dodge when
L446[13:06:09] <Inari> Probably implicit based on your agility once the RPG system is implemented
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L448[13:06:27] <Inari> If @Forecaster ever gets around to that
L449[13:06:40] <Bob> this irc will become an RPG RP channel
L450[13:06:44] <Bob> ayy
L451[13:07:15] <Inari> %potion
L452[13:07:16] <MichiBot> Inari: You get a sour void potion (New!)
L453[13:07:17] <Inari> %drink ^
L454[13:07:17] <MichiBot> Sitting down suddenly sounds like a really terrible idea.
L455[13:07:27] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L456[13:07:28] <MichiBot> Dogast! CompanionCube! You beat Forecaster's previous record of 3 hours, 30 minutes and 25 seconds (By 2 hours, 6 minutes and 18 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L457[13:07:29] <MichiBot> CompanionCube's new record is 5 hours, 36 minutes and 44 seconds! CompanionCube also gained 0.00844 (0.00211 x 4) tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L458[13:08:38] <GSFTec> @Inari as i know is the tcp connectivity in opencomputers markt as broken, the problem seems for me that the channel never opens on try network.tcp.open() , so i think thats wy its not posible to send tcp data, i found a miss selection in the handler wich looks an the 2 wrong bytes to identify the local channel wich sould be markt as open
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L460[13:09:43] <TheAlmostGenius> Just wanted to congratulate the devs on a mod well done. I now have a complex redstone/oc network.
L461[13:10:37] <Bob> Good that youre enjoying it
L462[13:10:42] <Bob> most of the poeple here also enjoy it
L463[13:10:43] <Bob> i guess
L464[13:10:47] <Bob> I made alot of OC stuff
L465[13:11:01] <GSFTec> how can i mute this bots?
L466[13:11:18] <TheAlmostGenius> The most useful feature I have found so far is the startup script.
L467[13:11:24] <Forecaster> Corded is an irc relay
L468[13:11:25] <TheAlmostGenius> So useful.
L469[13:11:31] <MGR> Oh, the network loot disk is what you're talking about?
L470[13:11:33] <Forecaster> irc/discord relay
L471[13:11:40] <Bob> IRC relay with discord
L472[13:11:40] <MGR> I don't think that's being updated
L473[13:11:51] <Lizzy> GSFTec, best bet would be to raise it in an issue on https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues
L474[13:11:53] <Bob> plan9k floppy is also not updated
L475[13:12:15] <Lizzy> (that is of course if it's in the OC repo, if it's in OPPM then you'll want to raise it wherever it's stored
L476[13:13:23] <GSFTec> @Lizzy i was thinking, its better to say it to a dev, because i dont have github account
L477[13:13:35] <Lizzy> then make one
L478[13:13:49] <Forecaster> it's not "better to say it to a dev"
L479[13:13:54] <Forecaster> the best thing is to make an issue
L480[13:13:57] <Lizzy> issues with OC are best raised on the issue tracker instead of in a fast-moving text channel
L481[13:14:00] <Bob> so the dev can remember it
L482[13:14:09] <Bob> bad idea to post bugs in IRC
L483[13:14:16] <Bob> wher alotof people tlk
L484[13:14:21] <MGR> Yeah
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L486[13:20:34] <GSFTec> i would like to send an email or something and get around of an account extra in my passwort storage
L487[13:22:03] <AmandaC> "and get around of an account extra" can you rephrase that? I'm not able to parse it
L488[13:22:40] <Forecaster> they don't want an account they'll only use once in their password manager or something
L489[13:22:51] <GSFTec> jap
L490[13:23:27] <GSFTec> because: can be stolen
L491[13:23:39] <AmandaC> oh, well no, most places you'd send an email from will require an account, and thus a password, because otherwise they're used by automatic spam bots
L492[13:24:29] <AmandaC> You could make a small php app or similar to send the emails, which will obsecure the password
L493[13:24:53] <Forecaster> I think you misunderstand
L494[13:25:06] <Forecaster> anyway, we don't have an email address
L495[13:25:12] <Forecaster> there's the github repo and the forum
L496[13:25:18] <Forecaster> both which require accounts
L497[13:32:53] <GSFTec> a lot of work for 2 bytes -.-
L498[13:33:26] <GSFTec> I choose github
L499[13:35:02] <Bob> If you would clearly describe the problem
L500[13:38:00] <Bob> we need to clearly determine the probelm to be able to know what's wrong with it
L501[13:41:38] <GSFTec> its an ingame code problem only. if the functions of network.tcp used
L502[13:54:43] <Forecaster> %potion
L503[13:54:43] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You get a soft dirt potion (New!)
L504[13:54:47] <Forecaster> %sip ^
L505[13:54:47] <MichiBot> Forecaster's favourite hat is suddenly on fire.
L506[13:54:55] <Forecaster> dangit, not again
L507[13:55:48] <Bob> %potion
L508[13:55:49] <MichiBot> Bob: You get a goopy orange potion (New!)
L509[13:55:54] <Bob> %drink ^
L510[13:55:54] <MichiBot> Bob turns into a horse boy.
L511[13:56:03] <Bob> Hecc no
L512[14:07:14] <ayangd> %potion
L513[14:07:15] <MichiBot> ayangd: You get a fiery röd potion (New!)
L514[14:07:31] <ayangd> %throw ^
L515[14:07:56] <ayangd> %sip ^
L516[14:07:57] <MichiBot> ayangd turns into a dryad girl.
L517[14:08:03] <ayangd> Wut
L518[14:08:17] <AmandaC> congrats
L519[14:08:50] <ayangd> I want to throw it, but...
L520[14:09:03] <AmandaC> %calc -6 * 0.125
L521[14:09:04] <MichiBot> AmandaC: -0.75
L522[14:09:09] <ayangd> So it can be like splash potion or some sort
L523[14:09:27] <Bob> %potion
L524[14:09:28] <MichiBot> Bob: You get a molten white potion (New!)
L525[14:09:31] <AmandaC> Hrm. So according to this I2C sensor my room is fluxuating between 0 and -1C
L526[14:09:43] <Bob> When will be potions that transform back to humans
L527[14:09:46] <Forecaster> that's not how potions work :P
L528[14:09:48] <Bob> %drink ^
L529[14:09:49] <MichiBot> This doesn't seem to be a potion I recognize...
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L531[14:09:57] <AmandaC> Probably sensor jitter
L532[14:10:05] <Bob> %sip molten white potion
L533[14:10:06] <MichiBot> The potion bottle is suddenly on fire!
L534[14:10:07] <AmandaC> Although I'm skeptical my room is 0C as well
L535[14:10:56] <ayangd> Bob: *Still holding the fiery potion bottle*
L536[14:11:04] <ayangd> Isn't it hot?
L537[14:11:23] <Bob> nah
L538[14:11:36] <Bob> shouldn't glass not burn ?
L539[14:11:45] <Bob> well whatever
L540[14:12:32] <Forecaster> who said the glass is burning
L541[14:12:45] <ayangd> The bot?
L542[14:13:13] <Bob> Depends what the bottle is made of
L543[14:13:46] <ayangd> Ah, yes. Ofc :v
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L545[14:14:06] <Forecaster> the bottle could just be covered in a film that burns
L546[14:36:38] <Inari> GSFTec: Whats you fix? https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/blob/master-MC1.7.10/src/main/resources/assets/opencomputers/loot/network/data/lib/network.lua#L111 changing thise line to be open = true ?
L547[14:41:08] <Inari> Though I guess that wouldn't be a 2-byte fix
L548[14:48:21] <Inari> GSFTec: Anyway, in tcp.send it's kept as "closed" but sends a message to the target with a request ot open the connection "TO -> TCP Open. The target handles that and sends "TA" back, which is ilke TCP Ack I guess. Which then sets the channel to "open"
L549[14:50:12] <GSFTec> @Inari i create an issue
L550[14:50:49] <GSFTec> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/3085
L551[14:50:51] <MichiBot> Title: TCP connections are marked as open, only if local and remote channel have the same ID. | Posted by: 4PXKHF9IK8ZL7XKN | Posted: Mon Apr 22 14:48:14 CDT 2019 | Status: open
L552[14:54:34] <Inari> Sounds about right
L553[14:54:41] <Inari> @ayangd See thats why you make unittests
L554[14:55:26] <Inari> Also I love how apparently noone uses TCP
L555[15:01:37] <GSFTec> @Inari can you follow it?
L556[15:03:14] <Mimiru> @Kodos welp that blew up like I was expecting it too :(
L557[15:06:54] <Forecaster> via death ray?
L558[15:11:16] <Inari> GSFTec: Well, as I said "sounds about right"
L559[15:11:32] <Inari> Also stop @-ing me D: This isn't Discord!
L560[15:12:00] <Corded> * <MGR> proceeds to @ Inari
L561[15:12:04] <Inari> :p
L562[15:13:59] <GSFTec> @Inari thank you
L563[15:14:21] <GSFTec> good night @all
L564[15:14:25] <Inari> ¬_¬
L565[15:14:27] <Inari> %stab GSFTec
L566[15:14:28] * MichiBot stabs GSFTec with rat with wings doing 10 damage
L567[15:14:37] ⇦ Parts: GSFTec (GSFTec!~Thunderbi@185.171.78.143) ())
L568[15:14:41] <Lizzy> %inv add Bullet with Butterfly Wings
L569[15:14:42] * MichiBot summons 'Bullet with Butterfly Wings' and adds to her inventory. This seems rather fragile...
L570[15:14:48] <MGR> Did he literally try to @/everyone?
L571[15:14:57] <Inari> all works for that?
L572[15:14:59] <MGR> ?
L573[15:15:04] <MGR> No
L574[15:15:09] <MGR> But I don't know
L575[15:15:17] <Inari> Not a ping on my discord
L576[15:15:18] <Inari> So, no
L577[15:15:27] <Mimiru> %inv add Butterfly with Bullet Wings
L578[15:15:28] * MichiBot summons 'Butterfly with Bullet Wings' and adds to her inventory. This seems rather fragile...
L579[15:15:35] <MGR> Yeah, he didn't actually ping anyone
L580[15:15:42] <MGR> But I don't know if he was trying to
L581[15:15:42] <Inari> @someone
L582[15:16:00] <Inari> Unlikely
L583[15:16:03] <Lizzy> Also i'm pretty sure the @-everyone was fixed a while back because webhooks don't follow normal perms
L584[15:16:05] <Forecaster> I don't think so
L585[15:16:35] <Lizzian> @someone
L586[15:16:44] <Inari 『 おにいでれ 』> I miss @someone
L587[15:16:46] <Lizzian> nope, i think discord removed that april folls thing
L588[15:16:56] <Inari 『 おにいでれ 』> It was the best feature
L589[15:17:36] <Mimiru> Yes, @everyone was fixed (Let's home I'm right) :D
L590[15:17:42] <Mimiru> hey I didn't get pinged :P
L591[15:19:26] <Lizzian> OMG U USED @every0ne AM MAD!!!! *adds angry ping notification*
L592[15:19:46] ⇦ Quits: Inari (Inari!~Pinkishu@pD9E8EB19.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Quit: Changing server...)
L593[15:19:54] <Forecaster> http://tinyurl.com/yyrgwgto
L594[15:20:10] ⇨ Joins: Inari (Inari!~Pinkishu@pD9E8EB19.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
L595[15:20:19] <MGR> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/443741580705136651/558096335224569906/reeeee_pings_beard.jpg
L596[15:20:25] <MGR> Obligatory angry ping notification
L597[15:21:45] <Inari> s/0ne/one/
L598[15:21:46] <MichiBot> <Lizzian> OMG U USED @everyone AM MAD!!!! *adds angry ping notification*
L599[15:22:05] <Lizzian> hehe, corded removed the @ from that
L600[15:23:04] <Inari> Rude
L601[15:23:12] <Inari> s/@/@@/
L602[15:23:13] <MichiBot> <Lizzian> hehe, corded removed the @@ from that
L603[15:23:45] <Inari> s/@ever/@@ever/
L604[15:23:45] <MichiBot> <Lizzian> OMG U USED @@everyone AM MAD!!!! *adds angry ping notification*
L605[15:26:48] <AmandaC> Ugh, something's definately fucky with this i2c circuit, but IDC enough to continue debuggint right meow
L606[15:26:55] <Mimiru> <Lizzian> OMG U USED @ I just tried to ping everyone. AM MAD!!!! adds angry ping notification
L607[15:30:25] <Lizzy> Mimiru, what was your midori server used for? I have a password for it in my lastpass vault but i don't recall using it
L608[15:32:35] <Mimiru> Midori was the dedi I got space on from someone else
L609[15:32:37] <Mimiru> long dead
L610[15:32:47] <Lizzy> ah, cool beans i shall remove it then
L611[15:32:59] <Lizzy> lastpass keeps suggesting it every time i go to the dns panel
L612[15:34:05] <Lizzy> also did you see my ping in my discord about the dns stuffs?
L613[15:43:35] <AmandaC> %roll 1d3 1d2
L614[15:43:36] <MichiBot> [2] + [2] = 4
L615[15:44:07] <AmandaC> %8ball computer?
L616[15:44:07] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Signs point to yes
L617[15:49:36] <Lizzian> http://tinyurl.com/y5ghxvrh
L618[15:49:45] <Lizzy> ^ desk got re-enforcements
L619[15:50:08] <Bob> is it me or the whole metal bar is bent
L620[15:50:12] <Lizzy> little bit of a dip still but that's just cause it was bent for so long
L621[15:50:27] <Lizzy> it is a little bent, but it's providing more structure to the desk now
L622[15:51:10] <Lizzy> there's also one on the back but i can't easilly get a pic of that
L623[15:51:27] <Lizzy> doesn't bend nearly as much as it used to
L624[15:51:37] <Bob> The second screen seems to have some kind of stroke
L625[15:52:05] <Lizzy> ?
L626[15:52:12] <t20kdc> probably just a lot of text with a transparent terminal
L627[15:52:39] <Lizzy> oh, yeah that's a terminal with the nginx access log open for whirlpool
L628[15:52:41] <Bob> Especially on android discord where pictures are blurred to death
L629[15:53:31] <Lizzy> discord also compresses the image to shit
L630[15:54:50] <Lizzy> i also realised today that the lights under my desk are both off-angle to the sides of the desk and also at different angles to each other...
L631[16:05:43] <MGR> I haven't seen Discord image compression being a problem before, even on mobile ?
L632[16:05:54] <MGR> But SMS messages will destroy some gifs
L633[16:06:00] <MGR> They show up fine on Discord though
L634[16:07:00] <Bob> @MGR the images previwes resolution is shrinked, compare phone to pc you will see
L635[16:07:13] <MGR> hmmm
L636[16:07:29] <MGR> I didn't notice much of a problem, but I'll take a closer look when I can
L637[16:08:14] <AmandaC> discord serves the images pre-scaled to fit the display max width, most likely
L638[16:08:21] <AmandaC> ( For the preview )
L639[16:08:26] <AmandaC> tapping on it should show a full-scale one
L640[16:08:49] <AmandaC> Saves on bandwidth
L641[16:12:15] <Z0idburg> MY PLANS RUINED!
L642[16:12:19] <Z0idburg> R U I N E D!
L643[16:12:39] <Z0idburg> I just spent my entire lunch break realizing I forgot that on a Jeep Liberty the tailgate locks itself
L644[16:12:53] <Z0idburg> so in order to get out the tail lights you have to take the ENTIRE DOOR OFF
L645[16:13:03] <Forecaster> huh?
L646[16:13:04] <Z0idburg> waste
L647[16:13:28] <Z0idburg> I went to the junk yard for my lunch break at work to try and get a new tail light assembly for my jeep
L648[16:13:41] <Z0idburg> but all of the tailtages on every one were locked
L649[16:17:22] <Forecaster> ah
L650[16:18:00] <Inari> AmandaC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCp2iXA1uLE
L651[16:18:02] <MichiBot> フレデリック「オドループ」Music Video | Frederic "oddloop" | length: 4m 23s | Likes: 334,549 Dislikes: 10,623 Views: 53,248,845 | by A-Sketch MUSIC LABEL | Published On 27/8/2014
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L653[16:43:14] <Kodos> Mimiru what blew up
L654[16:46:48] <Mimiru> @Kodos https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fmassivelyop.com%2F2019%2F04%2F22%2Fcity-of-heroes-rogue-server-has-already-been-shut-down-under-threat-of-legal-action%2F%3Ffbclid%3DIwAR3nPAyhjP8uv5FnJljIp5exSDMg3svllnyT9PHpDudeWzQZzj0Sra7iNpA&h=AT2LvKEcBvyrhOoTckTB5a2gLDLpXzGbSjyiJpRcIbAQx6KELi9HehlGH2zi8NILXQewaPL9Bt_dBgvhNM4sm_x_lO9ufEH7pGktMdpPB7uT5Ezo1LH5Xa3BotjBMrD8ohx3aGbHNn-CetqxCA
L655[16:46:50] <Mimiru> GAAAh
L656[16:46:59] <Mimiru> https://massivelyop.com/2019/04/22/city-of-heroes-rogue-server-has-already-been-shut-down-under-threat-of-legal-action/?fbclid=IwAR3nPAyhjP8uv5FnJljIp5exSDMg3svllnyT9PHpDudeWzQZzj0Sra7iNpA
L657[16:47:03] <Mimiru> ffs facebook
L658[16:47:23] <Mimiru> @Lizzian yes, I'll actually read it ASAP though
L659[16:47:29] <simon816> facebook puke
L660[16:49:51] <Kodos> Urgh didn’t even get a Chance to play
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L662[16:50:14] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L663[16:50:21] <Inari> %pet Vexatos
L664[16:50:24] <Inari> %pet Vexatos
L665[16:50:31] * Inari kicks MichiBot
L666[16:50:33] <Inari> %pet Vexatos
L667[16:50:35] * MichiBot pets Vexatos with purpes. 2 health gained!
L668[16:54:07] <Mimiru> @Kodos source is leaked, more will come.
L669[16:55:31] <Vexatos> I:
L670[16:56:59] <Inari> :|
L671[16:57:06] <AmandaC> No no no Inari, don't kick micihbo
L672[16:57:15] <AmandaC> You do this:
L673[16:57:19] <AmandaC> %blame @Forecaster
L674[16:57:19] * MichiBot blames @Forecaster for E.T for Atari being terrible!
L675[16:57:34] <Inari> %inv add endless eight
L676[16:57:35] * MichiBot summons 'endless eight' and adds to her inventory. This seems very sturdy.
L677[17:04:00] <Inari> swiiiiiinngggiing swiiiingiiing~
L678[17:18:09] <Kodos> My sources say it’ll be back up after they remove trademarked characters?
L679[17:23:27] ⇦ Quits: t20kdc (t20kdc!~20kdc@cpc139326-aztw33-2-0-cust441.18-1.cable.virginm.net) (Ping timeout: 198 seconds)
L680[17:32:08] ⇦ Quits: Inari (Inari!~Pinkishu@pD9E8EB19.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Quit: KVIrc 5.0.0 Aria http://www.kvirc.net/)
L681[18:16:43] ⇦ Quits: Vexatos (Vexatos!~Vexatos@p200300C1072F5F5051FAEF0F91594250.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Quit: Insert quantum chemistry joke here)
L682[18:51:29] <AmandaC> Isn't that pretty much the whole story of why it died, @Kodos
L683[18:51:44] <AmandaC> Marvel, dc kept taking them to court
L684[19:23:07] <Wattana Gaming> play D3 D3 D4 A3 on a piano
L685[20:57:21] <AmandaC> %8ball hallucinate before uou hallucinate?
L686[20:57:22] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Reply hazy, try again
L687[20:57:38] <AmandaC> ... that'd be a no. Night nerds
L688[21:19:57] <Z0idburg> Lol Inari
L689[21:20:07] <Z0idburg> I ended up showing Senko san to somebody
L690[21:20:20] <Z0idburg> and I realized the first word in closed captions on that entire show is "Inari"
L691[21:48:28] <Shuudoushi> holy shit, I'm still listed as an add-on dev O.O
L692[21:48:55] <Shuudoushi> I'm touched! Even if it's because someone was too lazy to remove me lulz
L693[21:49:46] ⇦ Quits: Thutmose (Thutmose!~Patrick@host-69-59-79-181.nctv.com) (Quit: Leaving.)
L694[21:52:14] ⇨ Joins: Webchat613 (Webchat613!webchat@183.248.107.3)
L695[21:52:30] <Webchat613> ...
L696[21:59:29] <Wattana Gaming> When you see it, you cant unsee it http://tinyurl.com/y4jdd8ae
L697[22:01:48] <CompanionCube> %tonkout
L698[22:01:51] <MichiBot> Potzblitz! CompanionCube! You beat your own previous record of 5 hours, 36 minutes and 44 seconds (By 3 hours, 17 minutes and 37 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L699[22:01:52] <MichiBot> CompanionCube has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.008 tonk points! plus 0.014 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 0.3857
L700[22:28:55] ⇦ Quits: Webchat613 (Webchat613!webchat@183.248.107.3) (Quit: webchat.esper.net)
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L702[23:45:16] <Forecaster> %tonk
L703[23:45:17] <MichiBot> Voldemort! Forecaster! You beat CompanionCube's previous record of <0 (By 1 hour, 43 minutes and 27 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L704[23:45:18] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 1 hour, 43 minutes and 27 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.00172 tonk points for stealing the tonk.
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