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<Forecaster>
%potion
<Forecaster>
%potionL5[01:12:48] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You get
a bubbly röd potion
L6[01:12:51] <Forecaster>
%drink ^
<Forecaster>
%drink ^L7[01:12:51] <MichiBot> Forecaster gains the
proportional strength of a chihuahua.
L8[02:10:24] * Lizzy
meows good morning
L9[02:17:05] <Wattana
Gaming> I opened american.gxt from gta sa in notepad and found a
lot of unused dialogues
<Wattana
Gaming> I opened american.gxt from gta sa in notepad and found a
lot of unused dialoguesL10[02:18:15] <Wattana
Gaming> `~z~After five years on the East Coast, it was time to
go home. ~z~'Sup? ~z~Carl, it's Sweet. ~z~Whassup, Sweet, what you
want? ~z~It's Moms... She's dead, bro. ~z~How? How'd she die?
~z~Not now. You coming home? ~z~Yeah, yeah, I am.`
<Wattana
Gaming> `~z~After five years on the East Coast, it was time to
go home. ~z~'Sup? ~z~Carl, it's Sweet. ~z~Whassup, Sweet, what you
want? ~z~It's Moms... She's dead, bro. ~z~How? How'd she die?
~z~Not now. You coming home? ~z~Yeah, yeah, I am.`L11[02:25:28] *
Lizzy feels like playing through Fallout 4 again
L12[02:29:22] <Forecaster>
I started recording a letsplay of that, but I didn't edit the
episodes
<Forecaster>
I started recording a letsplay of that, but I didn't edit the
episodesL13[02:29:43] <Forecaster>
so I ended up with over 80 unedited episodes because I got so into
playing
<Forecaster>
so I ended up with over 80 unedited episodes because I got so into
playingL14[02:29:57] <Forecaster>
and I didn't want to do that so I just deleted them all
<Forecaster>
and I didn't want to do that so I just deleted them allL15[02:30:15] <Forecaster>
I need to start over sometime, and actually keep up with the
editing this time :P
<Forecaster>
I need to start over sometime, and actually keep up with the
editing this time :PL16[02:36:34] <Lizzy> I'd sorta completed
the main storyline (joining the railroad, destroying the institute)
but then wanted to do some of the DLC stuff but they kept breaking
my mods cause i had the season pass and they would always take
precedence over the mods which then meant that the IDs were all
off
L17[02:38:02] <Forecaster>
I haven't completed
<Forecaster>
I haven't completedL18[02:38:07] <Forecaster>
I haven't completed it [Edited]
<Forecaster>
I haven't completed it [Edited]L19[02:38:17] <Forecaster>
not even close
<Forecaster>
not even closeL20[02:39:27] <Lizzy> i also wasn't fully
paying attention to the story the first time, so i do want to do it
again and take it slower this time
L21[02:44:33] <Forecaster>
:P
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L24[04:06:08] <Forecaster>
%potion
<Forecaster>
%potionL25[04:06:08] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You
get a dull tuna potion
L26[04:06:11] <Forecaster>
%drink ^
<Forecaster>
%drink ^L27[04:06:11] <MichiBot> Forecaster's hair
turns to the color of quicksilver.
L28[04:06:16] <Forecaster>
oh
<Forecaster>
ohL29[04:06:21] <Forecaster>
%countpotions
<Forecaster>
%countpotionsL30[04:06:21] <MichiBot> There are 35
colors, 35 consistencies, and 80 effects! That's 1225 potion
combinations! And finally; 33 effects have been found today!
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L32[04:20:09] zsh
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L33[04:35:05] <Inari> %potion
L34[04:35:06] <MichiBot> Inari: You get a
gloopy dirt potion
L35[04:35:07] <Inari> %drink ^
L36[04:35:07] <MichiBot> Inari suddenly
craves pie.
L37[04:35:10] <Inari> :o
L38[04:35:13] <Inari> Dangerous
potion
L39[04:35:21] <Inari> ~markov Vexatos
L40[04:35:23] <ocdoc> it's like any other
elevator control still work?
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L43[05:03:39] <Izaya> so I was netsplit for
fucking hours
L44[05:03:42] <Izaya> %oclogs
L45[05:03:42] <MichiBot> Izaya: https://oclogs.pc-logix.com/
L46[05:17:03] <Zef>
Somebody is like actually getting annoyed that I'm making a forth
interpreter
<Zef>
Somebody is like actually getting annoyed that I'm making a forth
interpreterL47[05:17:20] <Zef>
They're saying forth is dumb and useless and not even a programming
language
<Zef>
They're saying forth is dumb and useless and not even a programming
languageL48[05:17:40] <Zef> I
mentioned redpower used it and they say that nostalgia is the most
useless emotion
<Zef> I
mentioned redpower used it and they say that nostalgia is the most
useless emotionL49[05:23:06] <Skye> @Zef meanwhile forth
is one of the few programming languages that's also an assembly
language that's also an OS that's also a shell.
L50[05:25:36] <Zef> "
@Zef it's dumb ah you should be writing a scheme or something
"
<Zef> "
@Zef it's dumb ah you should be writing a scheme or something
"L51[05:25:52] <Zef> I
looked it up, I guess scheme is a language too?
<Zef> I
looked it up, I guess scheme is a language too?L52[05:26:08] <Zef> But it
seems boring compared to forth
<Zef> But it
seems boring compared to forthL53[05:30:48] <Skye> It's a LISP
L54[05:31:48] <AmandaC> Language
Interesting Serious Programmers
L55[05:33:44] <Izaya> Zef: Forth is used
extensively in embedded devices due to its small footprint and
interactivity
L56[05:33:48] <Izaya> and you know
L57[05:33:52] <Izaya> being a pleasure to
write
L58[05:36:29] <Zef> Like I
got interested in it because it's just cool
<Zef> Like I
got interested in it because it's just coolL59[05:36:32] <Zef> It's
unique
<Zef> It's
uniqueL60[05:37:13] <Izaya> not as unique as you
think
L61[05:37:27] <Izaya> but it is from a ...
rather different family
L62[05:37:37] <Izaya> did you know the JVM
is a stack machine
L63[05:37:39] <Zef> In my
eyes I've never seen a language like it
<Zef> In my
eyes I've never seen a language like itL64[05:37:46] <Zef>
What
<Zef>
WhatL65[05:38:02] <Izaya> the JVM - the virtual
machine implemented by java - is internally a stack machine
L66[05:38:28] <Izaya> PostScript, as in
printers, uses reverse-polish notation
L67[05:38:39] <Zef> Wow
lol
<Zef> Wow
lolL68[05:38:52] <Izaya> (and is stack
based)
L69[05:38:58] <Izaya> HP has a line of RPN
calculators
L70[05:40:02] <Izaya> the language used on
them - RPL - means Reverse Polish Lisp
L71[05:40:04] <Izaya> :D
L72[05:40:53] <Zef> I have
never heard of stack based languages before forth, wasn't even
aware they existed
<Zef> I have
never heard of stack based languages before forth, wasn't even
aware they existedL73[05:41:14] <Izaya> I enjoy them.
L74[05:41:29] <Izaya> They're relatively
easy to implement in a language with some form of arrays, too
L75[05:42:35] <Zef> I feel
like I'm implementing it poorly though
<Zef> I feel
like I'm implementing it poorly thoughL76[05:43:00] <Zef>
Because every default word is just a lua function
<Zef>
Because every default word is just a lua functionL77[05:43:29] <Izaya> I'd suggest defining
as few words in Lua as possible
L78[05:44:12] <Izaya> you'll always have to
define a few things in the base language but once you do that you
can bootstrap the rest of the language in itself
L79[05:44:55] <Zef> Have
you looked at my code yet?
<Zef> Have
you looked at my code yet?L80[05:45:05] <Zef> I made
a github for it
<Zef> I made
a github for itL81[05:47:23] <Izaya> nah
L82[05:48:05] <Zef> I
actually am doing what Wikipedia said the language does, at least
for part of it
<Zef> I
actually am doing what Wikipedia said the language does, at least
for part of itL83[05:48:18] <Zef> Then
there's a few work arounds in there I feel
<Zef> Then
there's a few work arounds in there I feelL84[05:50:55] <Zef> Like
for skipping interpreting words there's a couple variables that do
that
<Zef> Like
for skipping interpreting words there's a couple variables that do
thatL85[05:51:43] <Izaya> >modern AM4
processors implement both the northbridge and southbridge, with
PCI-e and USB 3 on the chip
L86[05:52:21] <Izaya> neat, you could build
a board with literally just PCI-e and USB 3 and require no ICs
beyond the processor
L87[05:52:51] <Izaya> ... are regulators
ICs?
L88[05:53:20] <Zef>
Voltage regulators? Yes
<Zef>
Voltage regulators? YesL89[05:53:33] <Izaya> okay so you could
build a board for it with no ICs...
L90[05:53:49] <Izaya> if you're brave
enough to do your own transistor-resistor regulators
L91[05:57:18] <Lizzy> speaking of
electronic stuff, I drew out a small circuit diagram / plan for a
small box to control some mains outputs https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-uWrlCLU9z4bVPhxLZHR_DKCeZmAGTpV/view?usp=sharing
L92[05:59:01] <Lizzy> my intended use case
(at least at the moment) is to have a single button that can turn
all my monitors off at the same time and also from
"before" the power adapter so they use 0 energy when
they're off
L93[06:01:54] <Skye> Lizzy: there's a hack
so you don't need mains voltage. Get plugs that sense light and
then glue an LED to the light sensor
L94[06:02:09] <Skye> No need to touch the
mains, and opitically isolated.
L95[06:03:32] <Lizzy> except that'll
probably require a bulky plug for each of them and my PDU is
oriented upside-down (if that makes sense)
L96[06:09:24] <Zef> So I
think I'll probably add a few commands for directly accessing
components
<Zef> So I
think I'll probably add a few commands for directly accessing
componentsL97[06:09:37] <Zef>
%s/commands/words
<Zef>
%s/commands/wordsL98[06:09:37] <MichiBot> <Zef> So I
think I'll probably add a few words for directly accessing
components
L99[06:09:55] <Zef> Like
one for setting the cursor position so it's possible to draw
<Zef> Like
one for setting the cursor position so it's possible to drawL100[06:11:10] <Izaya> not necessary
L101[06:11:12] <AmandaC> Skye: that'd
cause vampire energy drain though, vs Lizzy's idea which will kill
the vampire drain alltogether
L102[06:11:55] <Izaya> just put \27[x;yH
on stdout, assuming you have a VT100 compatible terminal
L103[06:12:02] <Izaya> if not, chances
are, there is no cursor
L104[06:12:50] <Zef> So if
I did io.write() with that would it write the text there?
<Zef> So if
I did io.write() with that would it write the text there?L105[06:12:57] <Izaya> yup
L106[06:13:04] <Izaya> http://www.termsys.demon.co.uk/vtansi.htm
L107[06:13:09] <Zef>
Alright making a note of that
<Zef>
Alright making a note of thatL108[06:13:49] <Izaya> (\27 gets converted
to the character of escape, ASCII 27)
L109[06:14:03] <Izaya> X and Y are numbers
as strings, in decimal
L110[06:15:34] <Zef> I
don't know what else I'd need then
<Zef> I
don't know what else I'd need thenL111[06:15:47] <Zef> I mean
I still need to get if statements and loops working
<Zef> I mean
I still need to get if statements and loops workingL112[06:16:01] <Zef> Not
looking forward to it because that's gonna be a workaround and a
half
<Zef> Not
looking forward to it because that's gonna be a workaround and a
halfL113[06:16:24] <Izaya> have a flag to
ignore the next word
L114[06:16:56] <Izaya> if <TOS> ~= 0
then IGNORE_NEXT_WORD = true end
L115[06:17:19] <Izaya> then you just need
to implement comparison and testing that push 0 or 1
L116[06:17:53] <Izaya> ie = pops 2 values
off the stack, compares them, and pushes 1 if they're the same, or
0 if they're different
L117[06:19:26] <Zef> I
actually have a flag to ignore the next word, and a counter to skip
multiple words
<Zef> I
actually have a flag to ignore the next word, and a counter to skip
multiple wordsL118[06:19:44] <Zef>
Implemented because of displaying strings of all things
<Zef>
Implemented because of displaying strings of all thingsL119[06:46:31] <McMaartenz>
%tonk
<McMaartenz>
%tonkL120[06:46:32] <MichiBot> Dagnabbit!
McMaartenz! You beat CompanionCube's previous record of 5 hours, 41
minutes and 6 seconds (By 2 hours, 16 minutes and 51 seconds)! I
hope you're happy!
L121[06:46:33] <MichiBot> McMaartenz's new
record is 7 hours, 57 minutes and 57 seconds! McMaartenz also
gained 0.01368 (0.00228 x 6) tonk points for stealing the
tonk.
L122[06:46:39] <McMaartenz>
Damn
<McMaartenz>
DamnL123[06:46:49] <McMaartenz>
%tonkpoints
<McMaartenz>
%tonkpointsL124[06:46:49] <MichiBot> McMaartenz: You
currently have 0.03579 points!
L125[06:46:56] <McMaartenz>
:neko:
<McMaartenz>
:neko:L126[07:00:14] <baschdel>
%potion
<baschdel>
%potionL127[07:00:14] <MichiBot> baschdel: You
get a shining purple potion
L128[07:00:26] <baschdel>
%drink ^
<baschdel>
%drink ^L129[07:00:26] <MichiBot> baschdel's hair
grows three times longer.
L130[07:17:29] <Forecaster>
%potion
<Forecaster>
%potionL131[07:17:30] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You
get a prickly lime potion
L132[07:17:33] <Forecaster>
%drink ^
<Forecaster>
%drink ^L133[07:17:33] <MichiBot> A sudden craving
for soup occupies your thoughts.
L134[07:17:51] <Forecaster>
ohno I forgot the important thing I was going to do!
<Forecaster>
ohno I forgot the important thing I was going to do!L135[07:18:04] <Forecaster>
ah well
<Forecaster>
ah wellL136[07:27:36] <AmandaC> You were going to
wire me 1 million USD
L137[07:28:04] <Z0idburg>
Lizzy whatchya makin there. what kind of mains outputs are we
talking?
<Z0idburg>
Lizzy whatchya makin there. what kind of mains outputs are we
talking?L138[07:28:23] <AmandaC> @Z0idburg I
assume UK mains
L139[07:28:42] <Z0idburg>
Hmm I should see what UK mains are like
<Z0idburg>
Hmm I should see what UK mains are likeL140[07:28:53] <AmandaC> Similar, but
higher voltage, ISTR
L141[07:28:58] <AmandaC> 220V instead of
our 110
L142[07:29:10] <simon816> 240/230V
50hz
L143[07:29:21] <Z0idburg>
most houses have 220 its just unused for most things
<Z0idburg>
most houses have 220 its just unused for most thingsL144[07:29:27] <Z0idburg>
220 is more efficient though
<Z0idburg>
220 is more efficient thoughL145[07:29:53] <Skye> UK is 240V
L146[07:29:54] <Skye> as in
L147[07:30:12] <Skye> the standard is 230V
but the UK standard is 240 and it's within tolerance
L148[07:30:41] <Z0idburg>
well you will find it will fluctuate
<Z0idburg>
well you will find it will fluctuateL149[07:30:43]
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L158[07:30:57] <Z0idburg>
here you can have an outlet be anywhere from 110 to 130 volts
usually
<Z0idburg>
here you can have an outlet be anywhere from 110 to 130 volts
usuallyL159[07:31:18] <Skye> @Z0idburg if it goes
below 235 in the UK the grid is seriously messed up
L160[07:31:38] <Z0idburg>
we have whats known as two phase power
<Z0idburg>
we have whats known as two phase powerL161[07:31:42] <Z0idburg>
some places have 3
<Z0idburg>
some places have 3L162[07:31:46] <Skye> the UK is single
phase
L163[07:32:25] <Z0idburg>
in our circuit breaker we take a transformer and connect two phase
power, you get two 120V sources 90 degrees out of phase
<Z0idburg>
in our circuit breaker we take a transformer and connect two phase
power, you get two 120V sources 90 degrees out of phaseL164[07:32:37] <Z0idburg>
and if you tap both ends of the transformer there's your 240
<Z0idburg>
and if you tap both ends of the transformer there's your 240L165[07:32:49] <Z0idburg>
because transformers D
<Z0idburg>
because transformers DL166[07:32:51] <Z0idburg>
?
<Z0idburg>
?L167[07:33:42] <Skye> the UK is single
phase 240V
L168[07:34:09] <Skye> with like a 30A
current limit
L169[07:34:16] <Z0idburg>
the problem with two phase power is, most people rig some outlets
on one phase and some on the other. this poses a problem. You know
how they make wifi access points now that send their signal through
the outlet in the wall?
<Z0idburg>
the problem with two phase power is, most people rig some outlets
on one phase and some on the other. this poses a problem. You know
how they make wifi access points now that send their signal through
the outlet in the wall?L170[07:34:20] <simon816> americans don't
have earth connection
L171[07:34:22] <Z0idburg>
to the other router
<Z0idburg>
to the other routerL172[07:34:40] <AmandaC> simon816: uh... I
do?
L173[07:34:42] <Z0idburg>
well those don't work well if at all when you use them on outlets
that are on the other phase
<Z0idburg>
well those don't work well if at all when you use them on outlets
that are on the other phaseL174[07:34:57] <Z0idburg>
simon816 yes we do...
<Z0idburg>
simon816 yes we do...L175[07:34:59] <AmandaC> There's a pole in
my driveway which connects the house's ground pins to it at
east.
L176[07:35:13] <Z0idburg>
if you don't then you're asking for trouble
<Z0idburg>
if you don't then you're asking for troubleL177[07:35:14] <simon816> well I haven't
seen many US sockets with ground pin
L178[07:35:36] <Z0idburg> I
had a customer that couldn't get their wifi to work at certain
times of the day, and its because their ground severed and the
furnace basically EMP'd their wifi
<Z0idburg> I
had a customer that couldn't get their wifi to work at certain
times of the day, and its because their ground severed and the
furnace basically EMP'd their wifiL179[07:35:52] <Z0idburg>
thats because you're in very old houses
<Z0idburg>
thats because you're in very old housesL180[07:35:53] <Lizzy> Skye, residential
is single phase
L181[07:35:54] <Forecaster>
a lot of older buildings here lack ground pins
<Forecaster>
a lot of older buildings here lack ground pinsL182[07:36:10] <Lizzy> industry places
have 2-3 phases
L183[07:36:19] <Z0idburg> I
don't think you realize just how old our houses usually are
<Z0idburg> I
don't think you realize just how old our houses usually areL184[07:36:24] <Z0idburg> a
lot of them are still grounded too
<Z0idburg> a
lot of them are still grounded tooL185[07:36:41] <Forecaster>
we have two-phase, but 3-phase is available for heaver
appliances
<Forecaster>
we have two-phase, but 3-phase is available for heaver
appliancesL186[07:36:46] <Z0idburg>
My house is early 1800s.
<Z0idburg>
My house is early 1800s.L187[07:36:49] <Forecaster>
we have two-phase, but 3-phase is available for heavier appliances
[Edited]
<Forecaster>
we have two-phase, but 3-phase is available for heavier appliances
[Edited]L188[07:37:05] <Z0idburg>
Fortunately, it wasn't hard to update it
<Z0idburg>
Fortunately, it wasn't hard to update itL189[07:37:16] <Z0idburg> a
lot of houses here are from the 1800s and have knob and tube
wiring
<Z0idburg> a
lot of houses here are from the 1800s and have knob and tube
wiringL190[07:37:22] <simon816> probably was
just old houses when I went on holiday. There were no switches on
the sockets either
L191[07:37:26] <Z0idburg> I
can't speak for the rest of the US
<Z0idburg> I
can't speak for the rest of the USL192[07:37:42] <Z0idburg>
you mean GFCI?
<Z0idburg>
you mean GFCI?L193[07:37:48]
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L195[07:37:49] <Lizzy> I think the US does
have earthing pins on their round sockets, but AFAIK it's not
"required"
L196[07:37:57] <Z0idburg>
GFCI is only necessary for places where water and other elements
can get to it
<Z0idburg>
GFCI is only necessary for places where water and other elements
can get to itL197[07:38:14] <Lizzy> whereas the UK has
to have it for it to even go into the socket (if the socket is
compliant that is)
L198[07:38:26] <Izaya> aus sockets are
superior
L199[07:38:43] <Izaya> per-socket switches
are required
L200[07:39:15] <Z0idburg> I
don't see the point
<Z0idburg> I
don't see the pointL201[07:39:25] <AmandaC> GFCI is required
on new houses, and whenever you remodel a relevent part of the
house (bathroom/kitchens )
L202[07:39:39] <Z0idburg>
yeah but gfci isn't required in every room
<Z0idburg>
yeah but gfci isn't required in every roomL203[07:39:55] <Forecaster>
we don't have that here
<Forecaster>
we don't have that hereL204[07:40:03] <Z0idburg>
noyt unless the NEC changed it practically yesterday
<Z0idburg>
noyt unless the NEC changed it practically yesterdayL205[07:40:10] <Forecaster>
or at least it's very uncommon
<Forecaster>
or at least it's very uncommonL206[07:40:33] <Forecaster>
we just have a reset switch in the main junction
<Forecaster>
we just have a reset switch in the main junctionL207[07:40:39] <Izaya> S3: it'd solve
Lizzy's problem with monitors with no extra hardware needed: power
board with 3 monitors, one switch at the wall
L208[07:40:43] <Skye> @Z0idburg GFCI is
required on every UK elecrical installation.
L209[07:40:51] <Skye> Izaya, the UK has
switches for each socket.
L210[07:40:52] <Forecaster>
if it triggers somewhere usually the entire building is powerless
:P
<Forecaster>
if it triggers somewhere usually the entire building is powerless
:PL211[07:41:07] <Z0idburg>
heheh
<Z0idburg>
hehehL212[07:41:08] <Izaya> Skye: the UK plugs
have fuses, too, right?
L213[07:41:12] <Lizzy> yup
L214[07:41:15] <Z0idburg>
some people here still use fuses
<Z0idburg>
some people here still use fusesL215[07:41:22] <Z0idburg>
but most everybody is at circuit breakers now
<Z0idburg>
but most everybody is at circuit breakers nowL216[07:41:26]
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L217[07:41:29] <Izaya> that's like
L218[07:41:35] <Izaya> the one thing
anyone has on aus plugs
L219[07:41:40] <Izaya> the UK plugs have
fuses
L220[07:41:48] <Lizzy> we have circuit
breakers for each of the ring-mains, and then fuses for each
device
L221[07:41:50] <Z0idburg>
`are they fuses or breakers?
<Z0idburg>
`are they fuses or breakers?L222[07:42:03] <Izaya> (the aus plugs look
like that painting, The Scream, though)
L223[07:42:06] <Z0idburg>
because fuses are annoying
<Z0idburg>
because fuses are annoyingL224[07:42:12] <Z0idburg>
since they sever and have to be replaced
<Z0idburg>
since they sever and have to be replacedL225[07:42:18] <Lizzy> fuses in the plug,
breakers in the electrical panel
L226[07:42:27] <Z0idburg>
weird.
<Z0idburg>
weird.L227[07:42:35] <Z0idburg>
most electronics are fused in the US
<Z0idburg>
most electronics are fused in the USL228[07:42:38]
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L229[07:42:51] <Lizzy> fuses are better
than having the equipment on the other end fried
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L231[07:43:20] <Z0idburg>
circuit breakers serve the same purpose
<Z0idburg>
circuit breakers serve the same purposeL232[07:43:33] <Lizzy> yes but they're
also bigger and bulkier
L233[07:43:39] <Z0idburg>
some of them are even solid state now which is kind of scary
<Z0idburg>
some of them are even solid state now which is kind of scaryL234[07:43:41] <Izaya> ^ + more fuses >
less fuses
L235[07:43:42] <Lizzy> not exactly
something you can fit in a plug
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L237[07:44:44] <kogtyv> ммм
L238[07:44:58] <comp> о слышно когта
L239[07:45:08] <Lizzy> keep to english
please
L240[07:45:12] <comp> так пробуем
подключить и наш соседний кобинет
L241[07:45:25] <kogtyv> ок
L242[07:45:34] <Forecaster>
%translate так пробуем подключить и наш соседний кобинет
<Forecaster>
%translate так пробуем подключить и наш соседний кобинетL243[07:45:36] <MichiBot> so try to
connect and our neighboring kobinet
L245[07:46:06] <comp> нет не кабинет
биологии, там у нас комп крашнули мы в кабинете истории
включим
L246[07:46:11] <Z0idburg>
the other thing is that its really easy now to design power
supplies that cut off all current and voltage whenever too much
current is drawn thanks to thyristors
<Z0idburg>
the other thing is that its really easy now to design power
supplies that cut off all current and voltage whenever too much
current is drawn thanks to thyristorsL247[07:46:13] <Z0idburg>
and such
<Z0idburg>
and suchL248[07:46:18] ***
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L249[07:46:22] <Lizzy> oh fuck
L250[07:46:29] <AmandaC> LOL
L251[07:46:29] <simon816> lol
L252[07:46:31] ***
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L253[07:46:58] <Izaya> nothing lost
L254[07:46:58] <Lizzy> Mimiru, can you get
corded back in here?
L255[07:47:07] <AmandaC> Lizzy made an
oopsie. :3
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L257[07:47:20] <ASgeyvna> так
слышно?
L258[07:47:28] <Izaya> cease
L259[07:47:44] <Lizzy> ASgeyvna, ENGLISH
or i will ban you
L260[07:47:56] <ASgeyvna> ей шо не слышно?
я что на другой лини
L261[07:48:35] <Skye> please speak
english.
L262[07:48:42] ***
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english))
L263[07:49:09] <Lizzy> the lounge doesn't
have kickban functionality
L264[07:49:12] <Skye> do we know any
russians who are awake?
L265[07:49:21] *
Lizzy pokes Saphire
L266[07:50:55] <Lizzy> anyway... i can't
do anything about that till Mimiru appears
L267[07:50:59] <Izaya> oh yeah
L268[07:51:02] <Izaya> I did a thing
earlier
L269[07:51:08] <Izaya> https://social.shadowkat.net/media/09aa8ed87ebe2f6c8001d0a30e695e39ad17c52294ca98db87150480685435ef.png
L270[07:51:34] <Lizzy> cool
L271[07:51:54] *
Lizzy wishes that Vega64 GPU Waterblocks weren't so
expensive
L272[07:52:01] <Lizzy> granted i haven't
looked all that hard
L273[07:52:01] <Izaya> Will an RX 580 be
significantly faster than a GTX 980? Debatable. Will the extra VRAM
make things run better? Definitely.
L274[07:52:35] <Izaya> Also, AMD drivers
stronk
L275[07:52:53] <Lizzy> %translate так
слышно
L276[07:52:54] <MichiBot> so you can
hear
L277[07:53:07] <Lizzy> %translate ей шо не
слышно? я что на другой лини
L278[07:53:08] <MichiBot> It sho you
cannot hear? I was on the other line
L279[07:53:20] *
Lizzy shrugs
L280[07:53:23] <Izaya> I wonder if it
would be good or bad for relations if we directed them to the cc ru
channel
L281[07:53:37] <AmandaC> I think they
thought that it was a server-local chat
L282[07:53:56] <AmandaC> Or that it
connected to the server's discord or something
L283[07:53:59] ***
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L284[07:54:41] <Skye> I think it's people
on the same OC server
L285[07:55:07] <Lizzy> it seems like
it
L286[07:55:10] <Lizzy> same ip
anyway
L287[07:56:27] <Lizzy> the
"240-5v" labelled box in my little diagram would be
something like https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B073GPSY4T/?coliid=I1UFB9LURP32E5&colid=2ZJ6C9QV97D7H&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it&th=1
L288[07:57:55] <Lizzy> I could power the
relays off of the Pi itself, but that would maybe end up with power
draining from the cpu and maybe stalling it or something
L289[08:14:42] <Saphire> Lizzy:
awoo?
L290[08:14:45] <Saphire> What's up?
L291[08:15:52] <Saphire> Oh, they are just
making random noise
L292[08:16:33] <Lizzy> ok
L293[08:18:10] <Izaya> https://social.shadowkat.net/media/bacb51aa985ae363ec9b1e374203b8817993255fb46a2cb66f2c1da17bdedb2f.webm
L294[08:44:03] <Skye> Saphire: awu
L295[08:54:14] <Saphire> awooo
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L299[09:34:36] <Forecaster>
@Lizzian there
<Forecaster>
@Lizzian thereL300[09:35:19] <Forecaster>
%Tonk
<Forecaster>
%TonkL301[09:35:21] <MichiBot> I'm sorry
Forecaster, you were not able to beat McMaartenz's record of 7
hours, 57 minutes and 57 seconds this time. 2 hours, 48 minutes and
48 seconds were wasted! Missed by 5 hours, 9 minutes and 9
seconds!
L302[09:38:28] <Lizzian>
@Forecaster thaaanks
<Lizzian>
@Forecaster thaaanksL303[09:40:18] <Lizzian>
ok, so it just shows up as `vip/1`, good to know
<Lizzian>
ok, so it just shows up as `vip/1`, good to knowL304[09:44:35]
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L305[09:47:33] <Lizzy> also yay, corded
back
L306[09:47:54] <Lizzy> %remindme 22h unban
russian people
L307[09:47:55] <MichiBot> I'll remind you
about "unban russian people" at 04/06/2019 07:47:55
AM
L308[09:53:11] <Lizzy> lol the fuck? one
of the random single IPs i have had a DDoS attack on it so OVH
directed traffic to it though it's mitigation network
L309[09:53:18] <Lizzy> i don't even use
that ip for anything :P
L310[09:54:14] <Lizzy> only seemed to last
for 8 minutes though
L311[09:54:36] <Lizzy> they probably gave
up after realising that it didn't go anywhere
L312[09:55:07] <Forecaster>
:P
<Forecaster>
:PL313[09:55:18] <simon816> my aws machine
gets hit with all sorts of random crap daily
L314[09:56:04] <Lizzy> the rest of my
servers keep blocking ips via fail2ban but this is the first time
OVH has warned me about potential ddos traffic
L315[09:56:14] <simon816> though not ddos
or anything that has taken it offline
L316[10:13:36] <Skye> Lizzy, do you know
how to tell if it's a toner caridge or a drum unit of a laser
printer that's broken?
L317[10:24:23] <Lizzy> from the little
information you've given me, no
L318[10:30:25] <Skye> basically my laser
printer is leaking yellow toner
L319[10:30:28] <Skye> over
everything
L320[10:30:30] <Skye> over paper
L321[10:30:35] <Skye> over the resto f the
printer
L322[10:30:44] <Skye> and over me when I
pick up the cartridge
L323[10:30:58] <Skye> and... I don't know
if it's the toner, or the drum
L324[10:31:01] <Skye> both look
unhappy
L325[10:34:05] <simon816> burn it
L326[10:34:07] <simon816> get a new
one
L327[10:34:16] <simon816> printers _are_
the devil
L328[10:34:47] <Lizzy> unsure, i've only
ever worked on large printers (the sort you see in offices). my
guess is that the toner may be leaking but if it's already all over
the drum it's gonna keep splodging up the prints
L329[10:35:06] <AmandaC> if printers are
denizens of hell, wouldn't burning them make them stronger?
L330[10:35:25] <AmandaC> At the very least
it'd cause no damage
L331[10:37:04] <Skye> Lizzy, the drum has
this clear flexiable plastic bit which appears to do nothing but it
is warped, idk what it is
L332[10:39:05] <Lizzy> might be some sort
of spill guard? Unsure
L333[10:39:18] <Lizzy> might be best
asking on forums dedicated to the printer or something
L334[10:39:50] <Skye> I would rather cease
to exist than go onto forums
L335[10:40:40] <Inari> Skye: Uh, why
L336[10:41:08] <Skye> human interactions
suck
L337[10:41:17] <Inari> We're humans in
here you know
L338[10:41:45] <Mimiru> Eh, speak for
yourself.
L339[10:41:58] <Inari> Mimiru: Not more or
less so than on any random forum :P
L340[10:42:43] <Skye> I kinda know your
people
L341[10:45:34] <AmandaC> %roll 1d2
L342[10:45:35] <MichiBot> [1] = 1
L343[10:46:58] <Skye> s/your people/you
people/
L344[10:46:58] <MichiBot> <Skye> I
kinda know you people
L345[10:46:59] <Skye> x_x
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L351[11:29:21] <Zef> Ben
were you here when I was talking about my forth interpreter?
<Zef> Ben
were you here when I was talking about my forth interpreter?L352[11:37:41] <Inari> Temia: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/344256550640287755/563762198480945152/56510897_2526645630683805_5355533173948153856_n.png?width=676&height=676
L353[11:48:45] <ben_mkiv> yes, but i cant
relate to forth
L354[11:48:54] <ben_mkiv> neither to
interpreters running in a sandbox game running in a sandbox
L355[11:49:31] <Inari> It's all sandboxes
one way or another unless you run without anything but your own
software
L356[12:10:28] <Inari> %pet AmandaC
L357[12:10:31] <Inari> %pet AmandaC
L358[12:10:32] *
MichiBot pets AmandaC with "exposure". 2 health
gained!
L360[12:24:42] <Forecaster>
what if we're running in a sandbox...
<Forecaster>
what if we're running in a sandbox...L361[12:31:29] <Kleadron> dig all of the
sand out
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L365[12:51:24] <AmandaC> Lizzy: Not
suspicous at all! Def. not a phantom USB device that'll be taking
over your computer!
L366[12:52:14] <Z0idburg>
Zef: You wrote a Forth compiler?
<Z0idburg>
Zef: You wrote a Forth compiler?L367[12:52:51] <AmandaC> On a more serious
note, I assume it's some kind of drive to install drivers from. IN
the long-long ago I had a USB cell modem that did that
L368[12:53:06] <Lizzy> AmandaC, it was my
portable usb sata drive with an ssd in it
L369[12:53:10] <Lizzy> and it was working
fine
L370[12:53:15] <Lizzy> just windows being
drunk
L371[12:53:25] <AmandaC> hehe
L372[12:53:33] <Lizzy> cause notice that
it shows optical mouse, but also has a keyboard icon
L373[12:53:49] <AmandaC> the keyboard icon
is just generically used for any HID device, I think
L374[12:55:31] *
Lizzy shrugs
L375[12:57:11] <Lizzy> it's also bitlocker
encrypted (cause i usually have it on my work pc) so i had to
connect it via windows to reset it's password cause i forgot
it
L376[12:57:18] <Lizzy> got it mounted on
linux now though
L377[12:57:45] <AmandaC> huh, didn't know
you could decrypt bitlocker stuff from linux
L378[12:57:55] <Lizzy> not natively
L379[12:58:02] <Lizzy> there's a utility
called dislocker
L380[12:58:05] <AmandaC> ah
L381[12:58:29] <AmandaC> %8ball code
tiem?
L382[12:58:30] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Reply
hazy, try again
L383[12:59:27] <Zef>
@Z0idburg *am writing, I also have a github set up
<Zef>
@Z0idburg *am writing, I also have a github set upL384[13:21:21] <Kleadron> imagine a mouse
with a built-in usb flash drive
L385[13:30:03] <Inari> Kleadron: But
why
L386[13:30:09] <Kleadron> because you
can
L387[13:30:35] <Kleadron> lets put flash
drives into keyboards
L388[13:31:27] *
Inari puts a flash drive into Kleadron
L389[13:32:00] <Kleadron> %loot old hard
drive
L390[13:32:01] <MichiBot> Kleadron: You
get a loot box! It contains a broken .psd.
L391[13:32:23] <Kleadron> wow the loot
actually went with what i was looting
L392[13:32:47] <Bob>
yes
<Bob>
yesL393[13:32:56] <Bob>
welcome Lizzian to windows
<Bob>
welcome Lizzian to windowsL394[13:39:20]
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L395[13:39:46] <ayangd> Hello?
L396[13:40:00] <Bob>
Hello
<Bob>
HelloL397[13:40:55] <ayangd> Has anybody
managed to create a robot that can automate everything?
L398[13:41:27] <Kodos>
%tonk
<Kodos>
%tonkL399[13:41:28] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Kodos,
you were not able to beat McMaartenz's record of 7 hours, 57
minutes and 57 seconds this time. 4 hours, 6 minutes and 7 seconds
were wasted! Missed by 3 hours, 51 minutes and 50 seconds!
L400[13:42:44] <ayangd> Maybe no.
L401[13:43:12] <Forecaster>
what is "everything"
<Forecaster>
what is "everything"L402[13:43:29] <Forecaster>
robots can do a lot of things
<Forecaster>
robots can do a lot of thingsL403[13:43:35] <Forecaster>
they can't do everything a player can
<Forecaster>
they can't do everything a player canL404[13:43:47] <ayangd> Resource
gathering, peocessing, robot replication
L405[13:44:22] <Forecaster>
they can probably do that
<Forecaster>
they can probably do thatL406[13:44:38] <Forecaster>
if anyone's done it I don't know
<Forecaster>
if anyone's done it I don't knowL407[13:44:50] <ayangd> Yea, I might do
that
L408[13:44:58] <ayangd> I like to
L409[13:45:36] <ayangd> I'm just thinking
how to initiate the system
L410[13:46:13] <Bob> ayandg
you can do that if youre brave enought, ressource gathering has
been done / mining, quarrying, trees, plants then proccesing they
can use inventories and communicate between robots using
network
<Bob> ayandg
you can do that if youre brave enought, ressource gathering has
been done / mining, quarrying, trees, plants then proccesing they
can use inventories and communicate between robots using
networkL411[13:46:15] <Bob>
so
<Bob>
soL413[13:47:32] <ayangd> I'm planning to
make a robot, that can build a large network of automation by
itself, together with robot interactions within the system.
L414[13:47:52] <Bob>
basically robot AE2
<Bob>
basically robot AE2L415[13:48:04] <Bob> well
you can
<Bob> well
you canL416[13:48:13] <Bob> if you
have enought brain power and lua knowledge
<Bob> if you
have enought brain power and lua knowledgeL417[13:48:29] <ayangd> Robot AE2?
L418[13:48:31] <Bob> i made
an Tinkers smeltery auto aloy request system
<Bob> i made
an Tinkers smeltery auto aloy request systemL419[13:48:38] <Bob>
Applied Energestics 2
<Bob>
Applied Energestics 2L420[13:48:44] <Bob> A
network but done with robots
<Bob> A
network but done with robotsL421[13:48:46] <ayangd> Oh
L422[13:49:08] <ayangd> But, I am doing it
without any other additional mods
L423[13:49:29] <ayangd> Basically, only
opencomputers are there
L424[13:50:26] <Bob> maybe
try integrating thermal to it
<Bob> maybe
try integrating thermal to itL425[13:50:35] <Bob> since
its pretty balanced and has many procccesing machines
<Bob> since
its pretty balanced and has many procccesing machinesL426[13:50:41] <Bob> that
can add compatibility / challenges
<Bob> that
can add compatibility / challengesL427[13:50:57] <Bob> OC
power generation methods...
<Bob> OC
power generation methods...L428[13:50:58] <ayangd> Nah, I keep it
minimum
L429[13:51:19] <Bob>
k
<Bob>
kL430[13:51:28] <ayangd> Is it possible to
create power from opencomputers itself?
L431[13:52:35] <MGR> Sheep
carpet thing
<MGR> Sheep
carpet thingL432[13:53:19] <ayangd> What is
that?
L433[13:55:41] <ben_mkiv> carpeted
capacitor
L434[13:55:56] <ben_mkiv> then put sheeps
or ocelots above, and they will generate power for oc
L435[13:56:23] <ayangd> Any
alternatives?
L436[13:59:06] <ayangd> Ok then, thanks
for the knowledge.
L437[13:59:17] <ayangd> I am going
off..
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L441[14:18:33] <Zef>
%hello
<Zef>
%helloL442[14:18:34] <MichiBot> Zef: Hello!
Welcome to #oc! The one and only opencomputers channel! Please ask
your questions directly (dont ask to ask) and provide error/code
examples! (Use pastebin.com if theyre more than one line!) Dont
mind the random conversation you might have walked into.
L443[14:19:11] <Forecaster>
why did you do that xD
<Forecaster>
why did you do that xDL444[14:19:36] <Zef>
Because somebody named "Guest" joined and changed their
name so I assumed they hadn't been in here before
<Zef>
Because somebody named "Guest" joined and changed their
name so I assumed they hadn't been in here beforeL445[14:20:06] <Forecaster>
vifino has been here much longer than you :P
<Forecaster>
vifino has been here much longer than you :PL446[14:20:13] <Bob>
^
<Bob>
^L447[14:20:26] <Forecaster>
he doesn't talk a lot though
<Forecaster>
he doesn't talk a lot thoughL448[14:20:33] <Zef>
ohhhhh
<Zef>
ohhhhhL449[14:20:38] <Zef> Well
didn't know
<Zef> Well
didn't knowL450[14:23:54] <TwistedGate> Talking is overrated
anyway
<TwistedGate> Talking is overrated
anywayL451[14:24:07] <Forecaster>
but you just did :P
<Forecaster>
but you just did :PL452[14:24:29] <TwistedGate> shhh
<TwistedGate> shhhL453[14:24:51] <Bob>
HA
<Bob>
HAL454[14:24:55] <Inari> HI
L455[14:25:13] <simon816> HE
L456[14:25:19] <Inari> HU
L457[14:25:43] <TwistedGate> *kthen*
<TwistedGate> *kthen*L458[14:25:58] <Bob>
HO
<Bob>
HOL459[14:26:08] <TwistedGate> HM
<TwistedGate> HML460[14:26:10] <Forecaster>
%potion
<Forecaster>
%potionL461[14:26:10] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You
get a resonating copper potion
L462[14:26:13] <Forecaster>
%drink ^
<Forecaster>
%drink ^L463[14:26:13] <MichiBot> A bird flies
past that vaguely resembles someone you know.
L464[14:26:30] <Bob> a bird
in a form of an human
<Bob> a bird
in a form of an humanL465[14:26:34] <Bob>
horrifying :GWchadMEGATHINK:
<Bob>
horrifying :GWchadMEGATHINK:L466[14:26:53] <TwistedGate> birman
<TwistedGate> birmanL467[14:31:24] <Zef>
foxman
<Zef>
foxmanL468[14:33:30] <ben_mkiv> *insert in bird
culture meme here*
L469[14:40:16] <Deoxys_0>
lol I'm using a solar panel from Galacticraft to power an
OpenComputers computer lol
<Deoxys_0>
lol I'm using a solar panel from Galacticraft to power an
OpenComputers computer lolL470[14:40:28] <Deoxys_0>
lol I'm using a solar panel from Galacticraft to power an Open
Computers computer [Edited]
<Deoxys_0>
lol I'm using a solar panel from Galacticraft to power an Open
Computers computer [Edited]L471[14:48:05] <Bob>
ea
<Bob>
eaL472[14:48:07] <Bob>
ewww
<Bob>
ewwwL473[14:48:25] <Bob> i use
a computer to controll an NC reactor to power the computer
:GWpaboaWeSmart:
<Bob> i use
a computer to controll an NC reactor to power the computer
:GWpaboaWeSmart:L474[14:51:32] <ben_mkiv> why wont you use
a robot with leash to move sheeps to power the charger for the
robot
L475[15:07:11] <Bob> ~~too
op fix please~~
<Bob> ~~too
op fix please~~L476[15:41:45] ⇦
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L488[17:21:59]
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L489[17:27:23] <Zef> Can I
get a post of mine deleted on the forum?
<Zef> Can I
get a post of mine deleted on the forum?L490[17:27:28] ⇦
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L492[17:30:52] <Mimiru> @Zef sure, $49.99
per character.
L493[17:31:50] <Zef> Let me
just edit the post down to nothing then
<Zef> Let me
just edit the post down to nothing thenL494[17:31:54] <Zef>
lol
<Zef>
lolL495[17:32:23] <Mimiru> Sorry, I can see
edit histories, and it's also $499.99 per edit on top of the per
character charge
L496[17:32:40] <Mimiru> So, if you'll give
me a link I'll get an invoice sent over.
L497[17:32:58] <Zef> Do you
take payment in the form of 19 year old servers?
<Zef> Do you
take payment in the form of 19 year old servers?L498[17:33:33] <Mimiru> It's $1499.99 per
item discard fee for any hardware.
L499[17:35:56] <Zef> Is
there tax on that too?
<Zef> Is
there tax on that too?L500[17:36:14] <Mimiru> No, I live in
Oregon, so you don't have to worry about Tax.
L501[17:38:39] <Mimiru> But seriously,
link and I'll take care of it
L503[17:38:49] <Zef>
https://oc.cil.li/index.php?/topic/1855-undergoing-maintenance-zefs-vanilla-plus-a-lightly-modded-pack-similar-to-vanilla/&tab=comments#comment-8676
<Zef>
https://oc.cil.li/index.php?/topic/1855-undergoing-maintenance-zefs-vanilla-plus-a-lightly-modded-pack-similar-to-vanilla/&tab=comments#comment-8676L504[17:39:05] <Zef> I'm
completely changing my server name and everything so this post is
no longer accurate
<Zef> I'm
completely changing my server name and everything so this post is
no longer accurateL505[17:39:27] <Mimiru> Done
L506[17:40:01] <Zef> Thank
you
<Zef> Thank
youL507[17:44:00] ⇦
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L508[18:05:10] <simon816> https://www.bleachbit.org/cloth-or-something
lol
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L510[18:14:58] <ai> hi
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L513[18:17:41] <ai> oh russos
L514[18:17:46] <ai> vou-vos caçar
L515[18:18:10] <ai> seu
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L518[18:22:02] <Zef>
hmmm
<Zef>
hmmmL519[18:25:50] <Mimiru> Hey smart
people...
L520[18:26:18] <Mimiru> If I have an
encrypted file, and the key used to encrypt it, but I *DON'T* know
*HOW* it was encrypted... is there a sane way of figuring that
out?
L521[18:26:46] <ben_mkiv> its always
XOR
L522[18:26:47] <ben_mkiv> xD
L523[18:26:57] <CompanionCube> Mimiru: no
metadata?
L524[18:27:06] <Mimiru> Not that I've
identified as of yet.
L525[18:27:12] <CompanionCube> what format
is the key in?
L526[18:27:22] <Mimiru>
E677D40DB8238617A24E2580C979E10D40015B9355FD365D
L527[18:27:46] <CompanionCube> is that an
identifier of some kind?
L528[18:27:56] <Mimiru>
"CRYPTO_KEY" from the database.
L529[18:28:03] <ben_mkiv> are you sure
that it is the key and not some hash?
L530[18:28:24] <Mimiru> Well, I mean it's
possible it was mislabeled for funsies.. but these guys are also
idiots.
L531[18:28:39] <CompanionCube> so, do you
have any program that uses the encrypted data?
L532[18:28:41] <simon816> just try a bunch
of algos and see if any work :p
L533[18:29:08] <Mimiru> Basically this is
a dump of a clients data from another system, PDFs and other
docs.
L534[18:29:09] <simon816> chances are it's
AES or DES
L535[18:29:32] <Mimiru> and they're
wanting $1,400 to decrypt it
L536[18:29:34] <CompanionCube> simon816:
but the given text seems a bit short for that
L537[18:30:14] <Mimiru> So, I don't have
access to the competitor system, and they aren't of any help as
they want their $1,400
L538[18:32:28] <CompanionCube> you could
try guessing with common algos
L539[18:32:47] <CompanionCube> do you have
even the name of the software used to encrypt it in the first
place?
L540[18:32:52] <ben_mkiv> AES usually has
header, doesnt it?
L541[18:33:01] <ben_mkiv> actually most
open algos do
L542[18:33:46] <CompanionCube> 48
characters, which is a nice round number
L543[18:34:47] <CompanionCube> if you had
the name of the software you could raid the docs for hints :p
L544[18:34:50] <simon816> It's windows
software but TrID is good at identifying headers in binary files
http://mark0.net/soft-tridnet-e.html
L545[18:34:58] <Mimiru> Content Management
Solutions EasyFile
L546[18:37:39] <Mimiru> yeah, tridnet
finds nothing on this sample pdf
L547[18:37:45] <CompanionCube> https://docplayer.net/13148734-Easyfile-system-user-s-guide-pool-financial-statements-as-of-march-30-2015.html
something like this?
L548[18:38:20] <CompanionCube> nvm
L549[18:38:33] <CompanionCube> (was
searching for encryption but was in sidebar)
L550[18:39:24] <ben_mkiv> shouldnt your
customer have a license for that piece of crap?
L551[18:40:05] <Mimiru> Yes, and they do.
But they're leaving them to come to us.
L552[18:40:15] <Mimiru> And... they're
getting charged to decrypt the data.
L553[18:40:21] <Mimiru> Not uncommon in
this field.
L554[18:40:34] <ben_mkiv> so they cant
batch export it from the CMS?
L555[18:41:10] <Mimiru> Not from the looks
of it.
L556[18:41:50] <ben_mkiv> did you check
all the DLLs whatever the software ships, if theres any hint?
L557[18:41:59] <CompanionCube> I don't
think they have the software
L558[18:42:17] <ben_mkiv> sounds like they
do, but want to get rid of it
L559[18:42:25] <CompanionCube> ben_mkiv:
'they' being Mimiru :p
L560[18:43:46] <Mimiru> Yeah, I don't have
the software.
L561[18:43:53] <Mimiru> I have the
database, and the actual files.
L562[18:46:00] *
CompanionCube doesn't think there's sufficient information to do
more than try common methods such as AES128/256 and
similar
L563[18:46:19] <Mimiru> Yeah, that was
what I was afraid of, thanks guys
L564[18:49:25] <ben_mkiv> 48 char hex
should be 192bit?!
L565[18:49:58] <ben_mkiv> if its the
key
L566[18:50:26] <ben_mkiv> and not
something to confuse competitors like you xD
L567[18:51:22] <simon816> AES-192 is a
thing apparently
L568[18:51:46] <simon816> though IIRC you
need the IV+key
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L570[19:00:56] <Z0idburg>
@zef Ooh, I'd like to see that
<Z0idburg>
@zef Ooh, I'd like to see thatL571[19:01:06] <Z0idburg>
STC, ITC, TTC, or DTC?
<Z0idburg>
STC, ITC, TTC, or DTC?L572[19:03:06] <Z0idburg> I
had an old Forth implementation I had on Lua
<Z0idburg> I
had an old Forth implementation I had on LuaL573[19:03:20] <Z0idburg>
but STC is pretty much the only effective way to do Forth in
Lua
<Z0idburg>
but STC is pretty much the only effective way to do Forth in
LuaL574[19:03:26] <Z0idburg>
so I got bored
<Z0idburg>
so I got boredL575[19:05:19]
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L577[19:10:25] <Z0idburg>
LOL LOL LOL
<Z0idburg>
LOL LOL LOLL578[19:10:28] <Z0idburg>
"Calling today to see if you need urgent prayer. If you would
like to have someone from our Center pray for you, please press
one. If you would like to no longer hear from us, please press
three. Hello, this is the Hope and prayer Center Ministry calling
today to see if you need urgent prayer. If you would like to have
someone from our Center pray for you, please press one. If you
would like to no longer hear from us, please press
three."
<Z0idburg>
"Calling today to see if you need urgent prayer. If you would
like to have someone from our Center pray for you, please press
one. If you would like to no longer hear from us, please press
three. Hello, this is the Hope and prayer Center Ministry calling
today to see if you need urgent prayer. If you would like to have
someone from our Center pray for you, please press one. If you
would like to no longer hear from us, please press
three."L579[19:10:32] <Z0idburg>
This is a voicemail I got
<Z0idburg>
This is a voicemail I gotL581[19:11:05] <MichiBot> Urgent -
Foreigner | length: 4m 20s | Likes: 54,584 Dislikes: 2,354 Views: 11,701,361 | by Alex
Krasnov | Published On 21/7/2008
L582[19:15:22] <AmandaC> @Z0idburg sounds
like a test to see if it's a live line
L583[19:15:39] <Z0idburg>
probably
<Z0idburg>
probablyL584[19:15:57] ⇦
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L585[19:16:54] <Z0idburg> I
should go home
<Z0idburg> I
should go homeL586[19:16:58] <Z0idburg> I
am at work
<Z0idburg> I
am at workL587[19:17:02] <Z0idburg> I
got out of work at 7:00
<Z0idburg> I
got out of work at 7:00L588[19:17:04] <AmandaC> I had to warn my
aunt that clicking the "unsubscribe" link in emails she's
never dealt with the company for before was just a signal that it's
an active inbox
L589[19:17:05] <Z0idburg>
it's 8:17 now
<Z0idburg>
it's 8:17 nowL590[19:17:24] <Z0idburg>
LOL
<Z0idburg>
LOLL591[19:17:27] <Z0idburg>
yeah that's bad
<Z0idburg>
yeah that's badL592[19:17:59] <AmandaC> She was confused
why it kept getting worse, she was clicking unsubscribe!
L593[19:19:21] <Z0idburg>
heh
<Z0idburg>
hehL594[19:19:28] <Z0idburg>
Just uninstall the Internet
<Z0idburg>
Just uninstall the InternetL595[19:19:44] <Z0idburg>
some people just shouldn't be on the Internet
<Z0idburg>
some people just shouldn't be on the InternetL596[19:19:46] <Z0idburg>
?
<Z0idburg>
?L597[19:19:59] <Z0idburg>
Probably all of us
<Z0idburg>
Probably all of usL598[19:57:19] ⇦
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L600[20:51:40] <Zef> I
worked on my interpreter a little bit today
<Zef> I
worked on my interpreter a little bit todayL601[20:51:46] <Zef> I got
if statements partially working
<Zef> I got
if statements partially workingL602[21:15:54]
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L603[21:24:31] <AmandaC> @Zef I think
@Z0idburg wants a link to the github
L604[21:24:51] <Zef> I
should probably push my changes to it then
<Zef> I
should probably push my changes to it thenL605[21:24:58] <Zef> But at
the same time it's not ready
<Zef> But at
the same time it's not readyL606[21:25:28] <AmandaC> He doesn't care,
he's just a forth nerd
L607[21:25:47] <AmandaC> :p
L608[21:26:08] <Zef> Well
like I have = IF THEN ready but I don't have ELSE working
<Zef> Well
like I have = IF THEN ready but I don't have ELSE workingL610[21:27:57] <Zef>
@Z0idburg
<Zef>
@Z0idburgL611[21:32:59] <Z0idburg>
hjmmmmm
<Z0idburg>
hjmmmmmL612[21:33:15] <Zef> How
shit is it?
<Zef> How
shit is it?L613[21:34:24]
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L614[21:35:21] <Z0idburg>
I'm not here to burst bubbles
<Z0idburg>
I'm not here to burst bubblesL615[21:36:03] <Z0idburg>
you can make it however you want. I will however mention that there
are a couple of things that questionably may make it harder for the
programmer that uses it
<Z0idburg>
you can make it however you want. I will however mention that there
are a couple of things that questionably may make it harder for the
programmer that uses itL616[21:36:19] <Z0idburg>
but that's already included with an STC too
<Z0idburg>
but that's already included with an STC tooL617[21:36:49] <Z0idburg>
unfortunateky STC is the only practical way to do Forth in
Lua
<Z0idburg>
unfortunateky STC is the only practical way to do Forth in
LuaL618[21:36:59] <Zef> What
is an STC?
<Zef> What
is an STC?L619[21:38:24] <Z0idburg>
Subroutine Threaded Code
<Z0idburg>
Subroutine Threaded CodeL620[21:38:40] <Z0idburg>
it's when you use subroutines / functions to store the word
<Z0idburg>
it's when you use subroutines / functions to store the wordL621[21:39:01] <Z0idburg>
i.e. dispatch['EXIT'] = function()
<Z0idburg>
i.e. dispatch['EXIT'] = function()L622[21:39:13] <Zef>
Ohhh
<Zef>
OhhhL623[21:39:29] <Z0idburg>
ITC is Indirect Threaded, DT is Direct Threaded, TT is Token
Threaded.
<Z0idburg>
ITC is Indirect Threaded, DT is Direct Threaded, TT is Token
Threaded.L624[21:39:48] <Zef> Well
you can also write them in forth too, just they need to use already
existing words that are defined as a lua function
<Zef> Well
you can also write them in forth too, just they need to use already
existing words that are defined as a lua functionL625[21:39:57] <Z0idburg>
you can't do IT or DT, and probably not TT either without a good
representation of memory
<Z0idburg>
you can't do IT or DT, and probably not TT either without a good
representation of memoryL626[21:40:23] <Z0idburg> I
didn't see but where does it store compiled words in forth?
<Z0idburg> I
didn't see but where does it store compiled words in forth?L627[21:40:26] <Z0idburg>
when you use ;
<Z0idburg>
when you use ;L628[21:41:17] <Zef> It
actually adds it to that WORDS table
<Zef> It
actually adds it to that WORDS tableL629[21:41:46] <Z0idburg>
STCs with a dispatch table like that usually have a
"wrapper" function that handles them
<Z0idburg>
STCs with a dispatch table like that usually have a
"wrapper" function that handles themL630[21:41:52] <Z0idburg> I
didn't look at that here though
<Z0idburg> I
didn't look at that here thoughL631[21:42:08] <Z0idburg>
like a lua function that handles user defined words
<Z0idburg>
like a lua function that handles user defined wordsL632[21:42:32] <Zef> The
main interpret function has a few variables to check if its
currently defining a word and if it is, everything gets put into a
string until you type a semicolon
<Zef> The
main interpret function has a few variables to check if its
currently defining a word and if it is, everything gets put into a
string until you type a semicolonL633[21:42:33] <Z0idburg>
Now the one thing I will tell you though is that there are words
that exist that will BLOW YOUR MIND.
<Z0idburg>
Now the one thing I will tell you though is that there are words
that exist that will BLOW YOUR MIND.L634[21:42:54] <Zef> When
you type a semicolon it puts the string into the table as the name
of the word that you're defining
<Zef> When
you type a semicolon it puts the string into the table as the name
of the word that you're definingL635[21:42:55] <Z0idburg>
for example, : and ; can be defined
<Z0idburg>
for example, : and ; can be definedL636[21:43:00] <Z0idburg>
as forth words
<Z0idburg>
as forth wordsL637[21:43:11] <Z0idburg>
EXIT too
<Z0idburg>
EXIT tooL638[21:43:31] <Zef> I
don't know how I'd implement that
<Zef> I
don't know how I'd implement thatL639[21:43:38] <Zef> I'm
just trying to make a working interpreter
<Zef> I'm
just trying to make a working interpreterL640[21:45:12] <Z0idburg>
yeah
<Z0idburg>
yeahL641[21:45:43] <Zef> I
think once I get it working and with all of the words that
redpower's had I'd work on optimising it
<Zef> I
think once I get it working and with all of the words that
redpower's had I'd work on optimising itL642[21:46:02] <Zef> I also
want to make a bootable version, and try to get a version onto an
eeprom
<Zef> I also
want to make a bootable version, and try to get a version onto an
eepromL643[21:51:10] <Zef> If you
wanted to add forth words in the lua code you'd simply add it to
the table like WORDS = {NEWWORD = {"5 3 + ."}}
<Zef> If you
wanted to add forth words in the lua code you'd simply add it to
the table like WORDS = {NEWWORD = {"5 3 + ."}}L644[21:51:11] <Z0idburg> I
have an entire text file I put somewhere
<Z0idburg> I
have an entire text file I put somewhereL645[21:51:18] <Z0idburg>
with nothing but just about every word in forth in forth
<Z0idburg>
with nothing but just about every word in forth in forthL647[21:51:40] <Zef> This
page was sent I think in here
<Zef> This
page was sent I think in hereL648[21:51:49] <Zef> This
is what I've been basing most things off of
<Zef> This
is what I've been basing most things off ofL649[22:06:46] <Z0idburg>
man where did that document go..
<Z0idburg>
man where did that document go..L650[22:07:18] <Z0idburg>
By the way
<Z0idburg>
By the wayL651[22:07:32] <Z0idburg>
@Zef : VARIABLE CREATE 0 , ;
<Z0idburg>
@Zef : VARIABLE CREATE 0 , ;L652[22:07:54] <Z0idburg> :
CONSTANT CREATE , DOES> @ ;
<Z0idburg> :
CONSTANT CREATE , DOES> @ ;L653[22:08:13] <Zef> That
would not work yet
<Zef> That
would not work yetL654[22:08:46] <Z0idburg>
ok
<Z0idburg>
okL655[22:08:57] <Z0idburg> :
DO POSTPONE 2>R HERE ; IMMEDIATE
<Z0idburg> :
DO POSTPONE 2>R HERE ; IMMEDIATEL656[22:09:19] <Z0idburg>
AHA I FOUND IT
<Z0idburg>
AHA I FOUND ITL657[22:09:25] <Z0idburg>
are you ready for mind blown?
<Z0idburg>
are you ready for mind blown?L658[22:09:50] <Z0idburg> :
; POSTPONE EXIT REVEAL POSTPONE [ ; IMMEDIATE
<Z0idburg> :
; POSTPONE EXIT REVEAL POSTPONE [ ; IMMEDIATEL659[22:10:02] <Z0idburg>
that is literally the definition of ;
<Z0idburg>
that is literally the definition of ;L660[22:11:44] <Zef>
oh
<Zef>
ohL661[22:11:46] <Zef>
lol
<Zef>
lolL662[22:11:48] <Z0idburg> I
have immediate somewhere
<Z0idburg> I
have immediate somewhereL663[22:11:51] <Z0idburg> :
immediate that is
<Z0idburg> :
immediate that isL664[22:12:28] ⇦
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L665[22:13:25] <Z0idburg>
Oh.. something I wanted to mention that's more usefuk than randomly
showing implementations of forth words that are almost
primitives
<Z0idburg>
Oh.. something I wanted to mention that's more usefuk than randomly
showing implementations of forth words that are almost
primitivesL666[22:15:23]
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L667[22:15:58] <Z0idburg>
What does text.tokenize do
<Z0idburg>
What does text.tokenize doL668[22:16:17] <Z0idburg> I
have a 99% certainty on what its doing
<Z0idburg> I
have a 99% certainty on what its doingL669[22:16:23] <Z0idburg>
but I don't see its implementation
<Z0idburg>
but I don't see its implementationL670[22:16:35] <Z0idburg> I
know what tokenizing is
<Z0idburg> I
know what tokenizing isL671[22:17:16] <Z0idburg>
it looks like you're splitting the forth input by spaceprobably and
finding words?
<Z0idburg>
it looks like you're splitting the forth input by spaceprobably and
finding words?L672[22:17:23] <Zef> It
splits a string into a table
<Zef> It
splits a string into a tableL673[22:17:31] <Zef> Using
space as the delimiter (?)
<Zef> Using
space as the delimiter (?)L674[22:17:36] <Z0idburg>
ok. I figured
<Z0idburg>
ok. I figuredL675[22:17:42] <Z0idburg> I
will warn you right now well ahead of time
<Z0idburg> I
will warn you right now well ahead of timeL676[22:18:08] <Z0idburg>
that's the easiest way to do it but it will probably cause problems
for you later on.
<Z0idburg>
that's the easiest way to do it but it will probably cause problems
for you later on.L677[22:18:31] <Zef> Wait
until you realize how I'm doing the custom word defining
<Zef> Wait
until you realize how I'm doing the custom word definingL678[22:18:39] <Z0idburg>
lol
<Z0idburg>
lolL679[22:18:40] <Zef> It's
all just a workaround
<Zef> It's
all just a workaroundL680[22:18:47] <Zef> That's
how I feel anyways
<Zef> That's
how I feel anywaysL681[22:19:42] <Z0idburg>
consider the implementation of comments in Forth
<Z0idburg>
consider the implementation of comments in ForthL682[22:19:49] <Z0idburg>
you know comments in forth right? ( )
<Z0idburg>
you know comments in forth right? ( )L683[22:20:19] <Kleadron> Didn't RedPower
2 computers use Forth?
L684[22:20:30] <Z0idburg>
yes
<Z0idburg>
yesL685[22:20:37] <Zef> Yes,
that's what I'm basing my forth off of Kleadron
<Zef> Yes,
that's what I'm basing my forth off of KleadronL686[22:20:46] <Zef> And no
I did not know comments in forth
<Zef> And no
I did not know comments in forthL687[22:20:56] <Kleadron> can you run
MineOS on OpenComputers computers now
L688[22:21:15] <Kleadron> (the OS for
redpower computers)
L689[22:21:15] <Zef> It's
not close to being done
<Zef> It's
not close to being doneL690[22:21:43] <Kleadron> i wonder how you
even get that to work
L691[22:35:13] <Zef>
Wouldn't that literally just be forth
<Zef>
Wouldn't that literally just be forthL692[22:35:17] <Zef>
Because forth is an os
<Zef>
Because forth is an osL693[22:35:33] <Kleadron> *huh*
L694[22:37:43] <Z0idburg>
man I cant remember how ( is defined
<Z0idburg>
man I cant remember how ( is definedL695[22:37:59] <Z0idburg> I
thought it was : ( 47 ACCEPT ; but its not it's very similar
<Z0idburg> I
thought it was : ( 47 ACCEPT ; but its not it's very similarL696[22:38:14] <Z0idburg>
ACCEPT doesnt work that way
<Z0idburg>
ACCEPT doesnt work that wayL697[22:38:15] <Z0idburg>
but
<Z0idburg>
butL698[22:38:38] <Z0idburg>
the thing is Zef, some words depend on the TIB
<Z0idburg>
the thing is Zef, some words depend on the TIBL699[22:39:03] <Z0idburg>
you will have words that need to scrap TIB data or even look ahead
of time
<Z0idburg>
you will have words that need to scrap TIB data or even look ahead
of timeL700[22:39:43] <Z0idburg>
so instead forth implementations generally have a word for finding
the next word!
<Z0idburg>
so instead forth implementations generally have a word for finding
the next word!L701[22:39:43] <Z0idburg>
?
<Z0idburg>
?L702[22:41:11] <Z0idburg>
this is usuall done by the word ` iirc
<Z0idburg>
this is usuall done by the word ` iircL703[22:41:15] <Z0idburg>
called tick
<Z0idburg>
called tickL704[22:41:22] <Z0idburg>
er '
<Z0idburg>
er 'L705[22:49:50]
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L706[22:52:08] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L707[22:52:08] <MichiBot> Dagnammit!
CompanionCube! You beat McMaartenz's previous record of 7 hours, 57
minutes and 57 seconds (By 1 hour, 12 minutes and 43 seconds)! I
hope you're happy!
L708[22:52:09] <MichiBot> CompanionCube's
new record is 9 hours, 10 minutes and 41 seconds! CompanionCube
also gained 0.00968 (0.00121 x 8) tonk points for stealing the
tonk.
L709[22:56:02] <Temia> %potion
L710[22:56:02] <MichiBot> Temia: You get a
shining salmon potion
L711[22:56:04] <Temia> %drink ^
L712[22:56:05] <MichiBot> Temia's hair
turns to the color of pink.
L713[22:56:10] <Temia> :O
L714[22:56:15] *
Temia goes to change her outfit to match
L715[23:08:58] <Mimiru> %drink ^
L716[23:08:58] <MichiBot> Mimiru's hair
turns to the color of pink.
L717[23:09:02] <Mimiru> w00t
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L719[23:20:35] <Saxie> o7.
L720[23:20:44] <Mimiru> %hello
L721[23:20:45] <MichiBot> Mimiru: Hello!
Welcome to #oc! The one and only opencomputers channel! Please ask
your questions directly (dont ask to ask) and provide error/code
examples! (Use pastebin.com if theyre more than one line!) Dont
mind the random conversation you might have walked into.
L722[23:21:31] <Saxie> Roger. Question
here: I'm trying to find documentation on OC integration with
AgriCraft, but can't find anything.
L723[23:22:10] <Saxie> As the AgriCraft
has the "Computer Controlled Seed Analyzer" block that
I'd like to use.
L724[23:22:57] <Mimiru> ahh sorry... I
won't be much help I've not used AgriCraft
L725[23:23:29] <Saxie> Well, I was hoping
maybe devs or experienced people might know anything from the OC
side of things.
L726[23:24:18] <Saxie> Maybe I shouldn't
bring up CC here but the agricraft block was created for it
initially, but that integration doesn't seem to work anymore/or has
been disabled. But supposedly there is some sort of compability
between OC and AgriCraft.
L727[23:27:46] <Mimiru> only thing I've
found is this long closed issue
L728[23:27:47] <Mimiru> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/2322
L729[23:27:47] <MichiBot> Title:
AgriCraft compatibility broken | Posted by: Misza13 |
Posted: Tue Mar 21 14:46:41 CDT 2017 | Status:
closed
L730[23:31:21] <Kleadron> %potion
L731[23:31:21] <MichiBot> Kleadron: You
get a ripe dirt potion
L732[23:31:46] <Kleadron> %toss
L733[23:33:18] <Saxie> Thanks!
Mimiru
L734[23:33:57] <ben_mkiv> did you check if
it shows up when running "components"?
L735[23:34:16] <ben_mkiv> then you can
fetch the available methods in the lua console
L736[23:34:19] <Saxie> Yes. both with or
without the adapter nothing show ups.
L737[23:34:28] <Saxie> up*
L738[23:34:31] <ben_mkiv> well, then its
most likely broken
L739[23:35:00] <Saxie> I thought I could
jank something together with CC and OC but CC doesn't recognize it
as a peripherial either.
L740[23:35:54] <ben_mkiv> just looked at
the issue... looks like they changed their api
L741[23:36:45] <Saxie> Yeah.
L742[23:39:06] <Temia> %drink ^
L743[23:39:06] <MichiBot> It tastes
sour.
L744[23:39:13] <Temia> ...I don't know
what I expected.
L745[23:39:48] <Temia> %potion
L746[23:39:48] <MichiBot> Temia: You get a
boiling purple potion
L747[23:39:50] <Temia> %drink ^
L748[23:39:50] <MichiBot> For about 5
seconds you know the location of a great treasure.
L749[23:47:17] <Kleadron> %loot Izaya's
computer system
L750[23:47:18] <MichiBot> Kleadron: You
get a loot box! It contains a deed for a bridge.
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