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L3[00:23:31] <Izaya> cute
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L10[01:57:50] <Forecaster> %potion
L11[01:57:51] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You get a freezing yellow potion
L12[01:57:54] <Forecaster> %drink ^
L13[01:57:54] <MichiBot> Forecaster loses one point of speed.
L14[01:57:59] <Forecaster> aw
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L16[02:42:11] <Sylux> hello world
L17[02:42:24] <Forecaster> hello you
L18[02:42:56] <Sylux> wow this is working ... im connected via my open computer mod in game
L19[02:43:20] <Forecaster> yep
L20[02:43:46] <Sylux> i was on computercraft but i seam to enjoy this more
L21[02:44:10] <Forecaster> seem*
L22[02:44:12] <Forecaster> I mean same
L23[02:45:46] <Sylux> sorry about the typo, so i actually got this as a better interface for stargates and reactor control what else can it do?
L24[02:48:57] <Forecaster> a lot of things
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L26[02:58:25] * Lizzy was about to respond byt oh well
L27[02:58:27] <Lizzy> %tonk
L28[02:58:27] <MichiBot> Willikers! Lizzy! You beat CompanionCube's previous record of 4 hours, 38 minutes and 14 seconds (By 16 minutes and 55 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L29[02:58:28] <MichiBot> Lizzy's new record is 4 hours, 55 minutes and 10 seconds! Lizzy also gained 0.0014 (0.00028 x 5) tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L30[02:59:44] <Lizzy> i'm going to chalk that one down to Totally Being Planned(tm) and not just winging it
L31[03:09:13] <Forecaster> :P
L32[03:12:19] <Forecaster> %potion
L33[03:12:19] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You get a warpy sky potion
L34[03:12:22] <Forecaster> %drink ^
L35[03:12:22] <MichiBot> Forecaster gains the proportional strength of a chihuahua.
L36[03:12:28] <Forecaster> yay
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L39[05:36:18] <Temia> %potion
L40[05:36:19] <MichiBot> Temia: You get a goopy tuna potion
L41[05:36:27] <Temia> %drink ^
L42[05:36:28] <MichiBot> Temia loses exactly a handful of luck.
L43[05:36:32] <Temia> ohno
L44[05:37:21] <Temia> How could you betray me, tuna potion?
L45[05:37:29] <Temia> I thought we were friends D:
L46[05:59:26] <Lizzy> hmm, found an old screenshot i had of the hosted Koding platform, just went to the site and it's nolonger hosted by them :/
L47[05:59:47] <Lizzy> though it is opensource so i can host my own instance of it if i wanted to
L48[06:00:53] <Lizzy> though, i think it's lunch time now
L49[06:04:52] <Forecaster> Koding?
L50[06:40:34] <Lizzy> sorta like a web-based IDE thing. was really useful when i was in college because i could use it to ssh into my servers
L51[07:05:37] <Forecaster> ah
L52[07:07:01] <Skye> %potion
L53[07:07:02] <MichiBot> Skye: You get a salty röd potion
L54[07:07:07] <Skye> %drink ^
L55[07:07:07] <MichiBot> Skye turns into a wolfgirl.
L56[07:07:17] <Skye> Awuuuuu
L57[07:08:09] <Forecaster> there are also boy versions of each
L58[07:09:24] <Lizzy> %drink ^
L59[07:09:24] <MichiBot> Lizzy turns into a wolfgirl.
L60[07:09:31] * Lizzy is now double wolfgirl
L61[07:10:38] <MGR> Isn't that just a wolf?
L62[07:11:30] <Skye> @MGR well there's also more girl
L63[07:11:45] <MGR> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L64[07:12:26] <Skye> https://danbooru.donmai.us/data/__imaizumi_kagerou_and_inubashiri_momiji_touhou_drawn_by_cube85__e062cd05113957533697415fb8d7b092.png
L65[07:12:56] <MGR> ok
L66[07:13:50] <Skye> https://danbooru.donmai.us/data/__imaizumi_kagerou_touhou_drawn_by_cube85__20cd10f49e5e1ffc41fca4da64bad153.png https://danbooru.donmai.us/data/__imaizumi_kagerou_touhou_drawn_by_cube85__ead1003d4ca0bbf42877f976417dd11b.png https://raikou2.donmai.us/48/89/__imaizumi_kagerou_touhou_drawn_by_cube85__48890220c0070d36bcba566b733a7056.png
L67[07:13:54] <Skye> https://raikou2.donmai.us/00/76/__inubashiri_momiji_touhou_drawn_by_chita_ketchup__0076c67c67f9841160b92baf95246d2c.jpg
L68[07:14:16] <MGR> ohno
L69[07:14:21] <Skye> That's it
L70[07:16:43] <Skye> Lizzy: which wolf girl would you wznt to be? :p
L71[07:17:42] <Lizzy> kagerou
L72[07:19:27] <Skye> Lizzy: so we basically want to look the same. xD
L73[07:21:04] <Lizzy> :P
L74[07:22:24] <Skye> https://raikou2.donmai.us/25/35/__imaizumi_kagerou_touhou_drawn_by_cube85__2535a86c40b2c543751102479824b746.png
L75[07:23:30] <Lizzian> Not sure if this is still Kagerou but these are more my goals http://tinyurl.com/y535xjmr
L76[07:25:53] <Skye> Lizzy: yep! Same wolfgkel
L77[07:25:56] <Skye> Wolfgirl
L78[07:30:49] <Bob> :GWcorbinMonkaGIGA:
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L80[07:53:53] <Forecaster> %potion
L81[07:53:54] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You get a sweet ocean potion
L82[07:53:59] <Corded> * <Forecaster> sips potion
L83[07:54:07] <Forecaster> %drink sweet ocean potion
L84[07:54:08] <MichiBot> True enlightenment can be achieved by drinking another potion.
L85[07:54:14] <Forecaster> meh
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L87[07:54:59] <Kodos> %tonkout
L88[07:54:59] <MichiBot> Fudge! Kodos! You beat Lizzy's previous record of 4 hours, 55 minutes and 10 seconds (By 1 minute and 21 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L89[07:55:00] <MichiBot> Kodos has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.004 tonk points! plus 0.003 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 0.15084
L90[07:55:07] * Skye offers Forecaster a salty röd potion...
L91[07:58:01] <Forecaster> close one Kodos
L92[07:58:05] <Kodos> Yar
L93[07:58:06] <Forecaster> %drink ^
L94[07:58:09] <Kodos> I almost waited too long
L95[07:58:16] <Forecaster> um
L96[07:58:19] <Forecaster> oh
L97[07:58:26] <Forecaster> it probably doesn't like "potion..."
L98[07:58:55] * Skye offers Forecaster a salty röd potion again
L99[07:59:47] <Forecaster> %drink ^
L100[07:59:48] <MichiBot> Forecaster turns into a wolfgirl.
L101[07:59:53] <Forecaster> oh
L102[08:00:10] <Bob> o lawd
L103[08:00:56] * Skye offers the Skye salty röd potion to @Bob
L104[08:01:25] <Bob> no thanks
L105[08:05:57] * Skye offers it to Temia
L106[08:08:32] <Lizzy> Temia is already a minotaur
L107[08:09:14] * Skye awus around
L108[08:23:43] <Z0idburg> AmandaC, new shuttle we're working on to get in and out of atmosphere without a rocket and carry stuff
L109[08:24:09] <Z0idburg> http://tinyurl.com/y6kjr79p
L110[08:38:25] <Kodos> %tonk
L111[08:38:25] <MichiBot> Avada Kedavra! Kodos! You beat your own previous record of <0 (By 43 minutes and 25 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L112[08:38:26] <MichiBot> Kodos's new record is 43 minutes and 25 seconds! No points gained for stealing from yourself. (Lost out on 0.00072 x 1 = 0.00072)
L113[08:40:09] <AmandaC> %8ball halucinate?
L114[08:40:09] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Signs point to yes
L115[08:40:21] <AmandaC> %roll 1d3 1d2
L116[08:40:21] <MichiBot> [3] + [1] = 4
L117[08:54:44] <Skye> AmandaC: do you want a salty röd potion
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L119[09:09:53] <AmandaC> no thank you
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L121[09:22:50] <Forecaster> %potion
L122[09:22:50] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You get a porous tuna potion
L123[09:22:53] <Forecaster> %drink ^
L124[09:22:54] <MichiBot> Forecaster's toes turn invisible.
L125[09:22:59] <Forecaster> hrm
L126[09:26:15] <t20kdc> So Skye told me to do this...
L127[09:26:20] <t20kdc> %drink salty röd potion
L128[09:26:21] <MichiBot> t20kdc turns into a wolfgirl.
L129[09:26:46] * Skye awu at t20kdc
L130[09:26:47] <t20kdc> ...What is it with Skye and plotting to turn me into a girl...!
L131[09:27:14] <Skye> Find the wolf boy potion then
L132[09:28:13] <AmandaC> @Forecaster maybe there should be a "test potion" command that has a X% chance to find out what the potion does, but could also fail, or even get the answer wrong.
L133[09:28:46] <Forecaster> but this is the tried and true Elder Scrolls method: "just consume it and see what happens"
L134[09:28:47] <Forecaster> :P
L135[09:28:53] <AmandaC> :P
L136[09:46:38] <Rph> %tonkout
L137[09:46:38] <MichiBot> Avada Kedavra! Rph! You beat Kodos's previous record of 43 minutes and 25 seconds (By 24 minutes and 46 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L138[09:46:39] <MichiBot> Rph has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.001 tonk points! Current score: 0.14404
L139[09:48:52] <baschdel> %potion
L140[09:48:53] <MichiBot> baschdel: You get a cloudy rust potion
L141[09:49:04] <baschdel> %drink ^
L142[09:49:05] <MichiBot> baschdel's toes turn invisible.
L143[09:49:48] <baschdel> Who was surprised about no duplicates ... ?
L144[09:50:07] <Forecaster> I didn't say they didn't happen, just how few there's been :P
L145[09:54:52] * baschdel is not known foe his good memory
L146[09:55:12] * Skye offers baschdel the salty röd potion
L147[09:57:28] <Bob> https://minecraft.curseforge.com/projects/flat-entities
L148[09:57:33] <Bob> Don't starve Minecraft
L149[10:00:52] <baschdel> %source
L150[10:00:52] <MichiBot> baschdel: https://github.com/PC-Logix/LanteaBot/
L151[10:02:38] * AmandaC is concerned that Skye appears to be building an army
L152[10:02:57] <AmandaC> Don't make me have to intevene in mortal affairs again to stop you!
L153[10:03:30] <AmandaC> %choose explore the pink forest or give up on oil and live a happy and peaceful life on the planes
L154[10:03:31] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Somebody once told me to roll with explore the pink forest
L155[10:04:11] <Skye> AmandaC: but awu
L156[10:05:12] <baschdel> %drink quicksilver warpy potion
L157[10:05:12] <MichiBot> baschdel turns into a toad.
L158[10:05:50] <baschdel> %drink quicksilver fiery potion
L159[10:05:50] <MichiBot> baschdel gains an additional bone.
L160[10:06:30] <Skye> %drink salty röd potion
L161[10:06:30] <MichiBot> Skye turns into a wolfgirl.
L162[10:06:40] <Forecaster> if you want to spam Michibot commands you can join #MichiBot
L163[10:06:50] <Forecaster> it's the same instance as this one
L164[10:07:02] <Forecaster> %tonk
L165[10:07:02] <MichiBot> Dagnammit! Forecaster! You beat Rph's previous record of <0 (By 20 minutes and 23 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L166[10:07:03] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 20 minutes and 23 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.00034 tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L167[10:16:12] <Kleadron> %loot
L168[10:16:33] <Kleadron> michibot why do you hate me
L169[10:23:20] * baschdel offers a sedimented void potion to t20kdc
L170[10:23:56] <t20kdc> Uhoh.
L171[10:24:00] <t20kdc> %drink sedimented void potion
L172[10:24:00] <MichiBot> t20kdc turns into a wolfboy.
L173[10:24:10] <t20kdc> ...Ah, thank you (how'd you work out that one though?)
L174[10:24:40] <baschdel> I talked to MichiBot for a while
L175[10:35:05] <baschdel> Does anybody here know some ingame chat That runs on top of minitel?
L176[10:46:48] <Zef> %drink ^
L177[10:46:48] <MichiBot> Zef turns into a wolfboy.
L178[10:47:00] <Zef> Does that mean I'm a hybrid now?
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L187[11:34:37] <Kleadron> ❐
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L189[11:41:17] <ben_mkiv> what do you think about a ae2 <> oc bridge
L190[11:41:37] <ben_mkiv> which lets you use the ae2 network for oc data
L191[11:43:18] <Forecaster> isn't that a thing already
L192[11:43:47] <ben_mkiv> there has been an p2p for OC data, but thats not what i meant
L193[11:44:11] <ben_mkiv> i was thinking about really using the cables, so you can directly get/set redstone p2p tunnels for example
L194[11:44:33] <ben_mkiv> and some screen you could attach to ae2 cable, which looks kinda like an ME Terminal but for oc
L195[11:45:28] <Bob> can the particle card use modded particles
L196[11:45:39] <Bob> because i can't seem to find with /particle the needed stuff
L197[11:52:21] <Zef> Have you updated the nzxt case?
L198[11:52:36] <ben_mkiv> no
L199[11:52:44] <ben_mkiv> didnt code anything in the last weeks
L200[11:52:53] <baschdel> ben_mkiv: that's a good idea, but sounds like a lot of work
L201[11:54:29] <ben_mkiv> yea, but i dont have to start from scratch, as i have "custom" screen code already
L202[11:54:41] <ben_mkiv> so its just adding ae2 grid support
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L205[12:01:27] <ben_mkiv> meh, redstone p2p looks like to be either input or output ;(
L206[12:05:37] <Temia> %potion
L207[12:05:38] <MichiBot> Temia: You get a warpy tan potion
L208[12:05:43] <Temia> %drink
L209[12:05:43] <MichiBot> Drink what?
L210[12:05:50] <Temia> %drink ^
L211[12:05:50] <MichiBot> It tastes sour.
L212[12:06:47] <Skye> Temia: do you want the salty röd potion
L213[12:07:25] <Temia> I'm fine, thank you c:
L214[12:07:35] <Temia> %potion
L215[12:07:35] <MichiBot> Temia: You get a boiling pink potion
L216[12:07:44] <Temia> %drink ^
L217[12:07:44] <MichiBot> Temia has a sudden but short lived desire to run around in a circle.
L218[12:08:43] <Skye> Temia: you could sneak some sedimented void potion into people's drinks and you can get an army of monster boys :p
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L222[12:27:13] <Forecaster> %potion
L223[12:27:15] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You get a sour rock potion
L224[12:27:18] <Forecaster> %drink ^
L225[12:27:18] <MichiBot> Forecaster's hair grows three times longer.
L226[12:27:23] <Forecaster> woo
L227[12:28:26] <Bob> i
L228[12:28:31] <Bob> need some
L229[12:28:34] <Bob> %drink ^
L230[12:28:34] <MichiBot> Bob's hair grows three times longer.
L231[12:28:37] <Bob> yeet
L232[12:35:57] <AmandaC> Forecaster and Bob are now sasquaches
L233[12:36:13] <AmandaC> She doesn't specify which hair, so I'm assuming all hair.
L234[12:36:32] <Bob> i mean razors exist
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L236[12:37:03] * AmandaC boops Inari
L237[12:37:16] * Inari barks at AmandaC
L238[12:37:27] * AmandaC beams another silly hat onto Inari's head, since she didn't respond to the prank yesterday
L239[12:37:35] <Inari> Psh :p
L240[12:37:39] <Inari> I prefer cute hats
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L242[12:37:49] * Inari sticks it on AmandaC instead
L243[12:38:16] * AmandaC shakes it off, cuddles up against Inari's side
L244[12:38:26] <Inari> %pet AmandaC
L245[12:38:27] * MichiBot brushes AmandaC with a bucket of mud. 7 health gained!
L246[12:38:30] <Inari> Heh
L247[12:38:39] <AmandaC> %choose ?? or ?
L248[12:38:40] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Some ? sounds nice
L249[12:39:24] <Inari> Is the first a love hotel in disguise?
L250[12:39:40] <AmandaC> ... no?
L251[12:40:04] <AmandaC> It's : woman_technologist :
L252[12:42:47] <Inari> Looks like a building
L253[12:43:03] <Inari> AmandaC: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/309529094452936705/562651058711560218/FB_IMG_1553789498333.jpg :D
L254[12:44:26] <AmandaC> Inari: :P
L255[12:50:16] <Temia> :eyes:
L256[12:50:20] <Inari> Temia: Meow
L257[12:50:25] <Temia> Moo
L258[12:50:29] <Inari> %pet Temia
L259[12:50:29] * MichiBot brushes Temia with a broken devkitPro. 6 health gained (8-2)!
L260[12:50:36] <Inari> Temia: What are you eyeing :o
L261[12:50:42] <Temia> That link
L262[12:50:50] <Inari> Click it
L263[12:51:06] <Temia> I did
L264[12:51:10] <Inari> :3
L265[12:51:12] <Temia> That's why I'm eyeing it
L266[12:51:16] <Inari> I see
L267[12:51:26] <Inari> I thought you're eyeing the literal link :P Not what it links to
L268[12:56:40] <Skye> Inari: drink the salty röd potion
L269[12:56:47] <Inari> Temia: So I found an odd subreddit
L270[12:56:52] <Inari> %drink salty rod potion
L271[12:57:10] <Inari> %drink salty röd potion
L272[12:57:10] <MichiBot> Inari turns into a wolfgirl.
L273[12:57:13] <Inari> Hmm
L274[12:57:16] <Inari> I prefer foxgirl
L275[12:57:31] <Inari> Temia: https://www.reddit.com/r/BreadStapledToTrees/
L276[12:58:29] <Skye> @Forecaster are there foxgirl potions
L277[12:58:41] <Forecaster> yes
L278[12:58:44] <Forecaster> or wait, no
L279[12:58:51] <Inari> Racism
L280[12:58:57] <Zef> >:
L281[12:59:01] <Inari> %fling @Forecaster
L282[12:59:01] * MichiBot flings a birb in a random direction. It hits @Forecaster in their pride. They take 8 damage.
L283[12:59:08] <Forecaster> it'd be specism though
L284[12:59:10] <Inari> Uhoh
L285[12:59:13] * Inari hides from the moo
L286[12:59:58] <Skye> Inari: maybe you can PR it in
L287[13:00:22] <Forecaster> really I should just make those use the animal list
L288[13:00:30] <Inari> YOu should
L289[13:00:53] <Forecaster> it's only used for the "tail of {animal}" currently I believe
L290[13:02:59] <Inari> https://www.reddit.com/r/BreadStapledToTrees/comments/b64o41/this_is_what_we_did_for_our_first_date/
L291[13:03:02] <Inari> Well ain't that romantic
L292[13:03:44] <Forecaster> they stapled bread to a tree?
L293[13:03:55] <Inari> Yes
L294[13:05:33] <Inari> I don't get it
L295[13:05:38] <Inari> But it'soddly interesting to scroll through
L296[13:05:38] <Inari> :p
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L299[13:14:26] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcAXw6j7cdE Good thing I'm not studying physics
L300[13:14:27] <MichiBot> Physics Professors Be Like | length: 2m 46s | Likes: 15,879 Dislikes: 145 Views: 257,667 | by Andrew Dotson | Published On 28/3/2019
L301[13:24:36] <Vexatos> Inari, as a chemistry student, this is very accurate
L302[13:24:54] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L303[13:24:54] <MichiBot> Goshhawk! CompanionCube! You beat Forecaster's previous record of 20 minutes and 23 seconds (By 2 hours, 55 minutes and 17 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L304[13:24:55] <MichiBot> CompanionCube's new record is 3 hours, 15 minutes and 41 seconds! CompanionCube also gained 0.00292 tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L305[13:25:24] <simon816> as a CS student, this is also accurate
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L307[13:26:59] <Admiral_Spire> hallo
L308[13:27:07] <Forecaster> hi
L309[13:27:15] <Admiral_Spire> any devs online?
L310[13:27:44] <Forecaster> no
L311[13:27:49] <Forecaster> yes
L312[13:27:50] <Forecaster> maybe
L313[13:33:00] <Admiral_Spire> i wanted to ask about tile sync
L314[13:33:05] <Admiral_Spire> is it server-side?
L315[13:33:20] <Forecaster> tile sync?
L316[13:33:42] <Admiral_Spire> tile entities, or something near
L317[13:33:47] <Bob> the mod needs to be on both clietn and server and is synced
L318[13:33:54] <Bob> youre saying stuff you don't know about
L319[13:34:02] <Bob> just lets say all is synced between clients and the server
L320[13:34:08] <Bob> files / computers and everything in the world
L321[13:34:22] <Forecaster> %restart
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L323[13:34:33] <Bob> Out of nowhere
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L326[13:35:18] <Admiral_Spire> Ok, maybe i don`t know all about that, but ive been reported about network packet hacks involving tile syncronization
L327[13:35:23] <Admiral_Spire> in OC
L328[13:35:46] <Bob> Wait what
L329[13:36:12] <Forecaster> %restart
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L333[13:36:41] <Admiral_Spire> By packet hack i mean malicious creation of any Itemstack
L334[13:37:44] <Bob> all you can do with OC is execute programs and give OC your touch and keyboard input
L335[13:37:57] <Bob> maybe if theres a debug card someone got then yes he has OP rights
L336[13:38:18] <Bob> but OC by itself can't really do anything, bytecode execution is disabled on the config by default
L337[13:38:25] <Forecaster> %potion
L338[13:38:27] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You get a runny pink potion
L339[13:38:32] <Forecaster> %drink ^
L340[13:38:32] <Admiral_Spire> nope, debugcard is denied
L341[13:38:33] <MichiBot> Forecaster gains one point of strength.
L342[13:38:33] <Bob> %drink ^
L343[13:38:35] <MichiBot> Bob gains one point of strength.
L344[13:38:39] <Bob> Yeetus
L345[13:38:54] <Bob> Well then OC can't really spawn items
L346[13:39:00] <Admiral_Spire> I was told that this is about Hard drive sync
L347[13:39:04] <Bob> unless there is some shady bug
L348[13:39:08] <Admiral_Spire> Like
L349[13:39:11] <Bob> Hard drives just store data
L350[13:39:15] <Bob> nothing related to items
L351[13:39:17] <Zef> Hard drive storage is in the world file
L352[13:39:19] <Bob> ^
L353[13:39:20] <Admiral_Spire> The client does syncronization of hard drive
L354[13:39:24] <Zef> Each hard drive is given a folder
L355[13:39:24] <Bob> withing a separate folder
L356[13:39:28] <Bob> ^
L357[13:39:35] <Bob> Yea and ?
L358[13:39:45] <Bob> it syncronizes and gives the file it needs
L359[13:39:51] <Bob> i don't even thing it gives the file
L360[13:39:54] <Bob> all is server sided right ?
L361[13:40:08] <Bob> on singleplayer you have your drive folders
L362[13:40:24] <Bob> Since the computers are run on the server, the hard drive files shouldnt be given to teh client
L363[13:40:29] <Bob> but rather the screen data and sound
L364[13:40:42] <Bob> tought i didn't checked the code and i dont speak java
L365[13:40:43] <Admiral_Spire> ...okay
L366[13:40:53] <Bob> but OC has a hithub so youre free to chekc anything
L367[13:41:02] <Bob> github*
L368[13:41:28] <Forecaster> the first rule of hithub is you don't talk about hithub
L369[13:42:16] <Bob> oh no our secret platform is leaked
L370[13:42:17] <Bob> were all doomed
L371[13:43:05] <Forecaster> inari there's now 100% more fox
L372[13:43:07] <Forecaster> :P
L373[13:43:22] <Zef> *fox?*
L374[13:43:35] <Forecaster> yes
L375[13:44:20] <Zef> http://tinyurl.com/y5y2q6oh
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L377[13:56:21] <Inari> I wonder what fox tastes like
L378[14:07:34] <Forecaster> chicken
L379[14:07:38] <Forecaster> %potion
L380[14:07:39] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You get a gloomy purple potion
L381[14:07:43] <Forecaster> %drink ^
L382[14:07:44] <MichiBot> Forecaster gains an extra strand of hair on their face.
L383[14:07:51] <Forecaster> ah well
L384[14:20:03] <Inari> %potion
L385[14:20:04] <MichiBot> Inari: You get a shiny purple potion
L386[14:20:05] <Inari> %drink ^
L387[14:20:05] <MichiBot> Inari realizes this was actually a grass dull potion.
L388[14:20:14] <Inari> %drink grass dull potion
L389[14:20:15] <MichiBot> Inari gains a negligible amount of luck.
L390[14:20:53] <Zef> >:
L391[14:20:57] <Inari> @Forecaster you realize theres a parallel universe out there where someone only gets that trigger over and over
L392[14:20:59] <Zef> You're not tasting this fox
L393[14:21:14] <Forecaster> maybe that was the plan all along
L394[14:22:29] <Kleadron> %potion
L395[14:22:30] <MichiBot> Kleadron: You get a shining quicksilver potion
L396[14:22:42] <Kleadron> %drink ^
L397[14:22:43] <MichiBot> Kleadron feels a strong urge to recycle the potion bottle.
L398[14:23:14] <Kleadron> recycle your bottles and cans properly, or i recycle you
L399[14:23:32] <Forecaster> what about canned bottles?
L400[14:24:46] <Kleadron> can you add an array to an array ?
L401[14:24:54] <Forecaster> yes
L402[14:25:01] <Kleadron> wow
L403[14:25:12] <Kleadron> i wonder how useful that could be
L404[14:25:31] <Kleadron> you could have a collection of objects with values inside them
L405[14:25:42] <Forecaster> people do that all the time
L406[14:25:58] <Kleadron> wow im so *not* smart
L407[14:26:22] <Kleadron> i was thinking of creating a window manager that uses arrays inside arrays
L408[14:29:32] <Kleadron> i still wish we had half-height characters
L409[14:30:19] <Forecaster> there are ways around that
L410[14:30:46] <Kleadron> im not talking about the pixels thing
L411[14:30:52] <Kleadron> i know you can use braille
L412[14:30:53] <Zef> %lua a = {}; a.nice = {"another table"}; print(a.nice[1])
L413[14:30:54] <MichiBot> another table
L414[14:31:06] <Kleadron> i mean actual square pixels
L415[14:31:10] <Kleadron> so you can have more content on screen
L416[14:31:18] <Kleadron> frick
L417[14:31:21] <Kleadron> i meant characters
L418[14:31:37] <Kleadron> there are DOS applications that do that
L419[14:31:41] <Bob> i use quintuple stacked tables in my latest script
L420[14:31:42] <Bob> lol
L421[14:31:47] <Bob> convert DOS to OC ?
L422[14:31:56] <Bob> with Lua it shouldn't be hard
L423[14:32:01] <CompanionCube> you mean like asie practially did?
L424[14:32:06] <Kleadron> NO
L425[14:32:14] <CompanionCube> (well, technically it was the IBM PC, but close enough...)
L426[14:32:29] <Kleadron> You guys aren't understanding what i'm saying
L427[14:32:48] <Kleadron> The text characters in OC are 2 times taller than they are wide
L428[14:33:41] <Bob> Yea
L429[14:33:52] <Bob> you can't cut them in half sadly
L430[14:33:58] <Bob> and no one made an addon with real pixel screens yet
L431[14:33:59] <Bob> so
L432[14:34:18] <Bob> ingame computers aren't running at unlimited speed so
L433[14:43:06] <Kleadron> neither do real computers
L434[14:43:11] <Kleadron> what is your point
L435[14:45:07] <Bob> wouldn't doing too much screen subpixels and stuff slow down the computer too much
L436[14:47:52] <Zef> Like it matters for oc?
L437[14:47:59] <Zef> We're not doing like hd gaming
L438[14:48:25] <Bob> MineOS dev: hold my beer
L439[14:48:42] <Kleadron> MineOS doesnt use the sub pixel thng
L440[14:48:44] <Kleadron> MineOS doesnt use the sub pixel thing [Edited]
L441[14:48:51] <Bob> some stuff does withing it
L442[14:49:03] <Bob> i remember RPH did something
L443[14:55:40] <Rph> yes
L444[14:55:42] <Rph> I did a thing
L445[14:55:59] <Rph> I made the fastest* image format for OC capable of doing 320x200
L446[14:56:10] <Rph> * = speed depends on encoder
L447[14:56:54] <Kleadron> I wonder if you could modify that to render pixel graphics in realtime
L448[14:57:02] <Rph> no
L449[14:57:08] <Rph> the encoder is written in javascript not lua
L450[14:57:13] <Kleadron> oh
L451[14:57:16] <Kleadron> nvm
L452[14:57:38] <Rph> and encoding a 320x200 png on a reasonably servicable CPU (like my 9 year old xeon) takes a second
L453[15:07:12] <Zef> I have probably the earliest xeon avalible
L454[15:07:21] <Zef> Nope
L455[15:07:26] <Zef> Close though
L456[15:08:35] <Zef> https://www.dell.com/downloads/global/products/pedge/en/2650_specs.pdf
L457[15:11:36] <Z0idburg> You need better algorithms
L458[15:11:48] <Z0idburg> My Pentium III could probably outperform that
L459[15:12:16] <Z0idburg> Actually probably not but its not far off
L460[15:12:51] <Z0idburg> oh wait javascript
L461[15:12:58] <Z0idburg> nvm ?
L462[15:22:16] * Inari shakes fist at PHP
L463[15:22:19] <Inari> Why you not load mysqli
L464[15:22:29] <Inari> (and yes, it's enabled in the config)
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L469[15:33:47] <simon816> use PDO
L470[15:34:10] <Inari> Tell php myadmin
L471[15:35:27] <Forecaster> heh
L472[15:35:45] <Forecaster> I updated ubuntu recently on a clients server
L473[15:36:14] <Forecaster> it turns out it broke something so the curl module stopped loading
L474[15:36:30] <Forecaster> when I tried to fix it and poked the configs it got worse and the mysql module stopped loading
L475[15:36:34] <Forecaster> I have no idea what happened
L476[15:36:51] <Forecaster> I "solved" it by switching to php 7.2 instead of 7.0
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L478[16:37:43] <Forecaster> %potion
L479[16:37:44] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You get a salty coral potion
L480[16:37:53] <Forecaster> %drink
L481[16:37:54] <MichiBot> Drink what?
L482[16:38:03] <Forecaster> %drink ^
L483[16:38:03] <MichiBot> Forecaster looks confused as nothing happens.
L484[16:38:13] <Forecaster> :|
L485[16:38:43] <Forecaster> %tonk
L486[16:38:44] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Forecaster, you were not able to beat CompanionCube's record of 3 hours, 15 minutes and 41 seconds this time. 3 hours, 13 minutes and 49 seconds were wasted! Missed by 1 minute and 51 seconds!
L487[16:38:50] <Forecaster> ...
L488[16:38:53] <Forecaster> Dangit
L489[16:46:01] <CompanionCube> today on shit you couldn't make up if you tried: some brexit supporters attempted to sabotage some train tracks, but their attempt was foiled because of changes caused by EU regulaitons.
L490[16:46:09] <CompanionCube> *regulations
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L494[17:16:39] <Temia> lmao
L495[17:16:46] <Temia> Please tell me you've got a post for this
L496[17:17:24] <CompanionCube> \https://twitter.com/thisislucio/status/1112637637582602241?s=21 includes a nice picture, or i can fetch an actual news article
L497[17:19:02] <CompanionCube> they can be friends with the person who couldn't set an EU flag on fire because the EU said they should be flame-retardant
L498[17:19:10] <simon816> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-47790939
L499[17:20:45] <stephan48> ich geh nun ins bett.
L500[17:20:56] <stephan48> good night :) (wrong channel)
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L504[17:56:48] <ComputerEric> Hey I was wondering if open computers is going to be ported to 1.13? I just can't find news of it anywhere else...
L505[17:58:05] <Zef> Is forge even finished?
L506[17:58:53] <ComputerEric> Yes, Or not really, but there is a 1.13 version
L507[17:59:29] <ComputerEric> Its not really finished, but it is there
L508[17:59:47] <ComputerEric> So it might not have all the code need to port open computer im just not sure
L509[18:00:08] <ComputerEric> So it might not have all the code needed to port OpenComputer im just not sure [Edited]
L510[18:00:22] <Zef> It's unstable and not worth developing for yet
L511[18:00:27] <Zef> As far as I'm aware
L512[18:00:39] <Zef> Someday there will probably be a 1.13 port, just that day is not now
L513[18:00:57] <ComputerEric> Ok, understandable. Thank you anyway ?
L514[18:06:11] <Kleadron> 1.14 will probably be released and everyone will move forge towards 1.14
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L516[20:18:05] <AmandaC> "There's a forge version for it" != "There's a stable, user-and-developer ready forge version for it"
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L518[20:20:50] <AmandaC> Forge isn't a professional product by a large, well known company. There's no reason to believe a release for a new version of minecraft is baked to the same degree as releases for older versions of minecraft
L519[20:33:23] <ben_mkiv> see.... minecraft is a product by a large well known company, too....
L520[20:33:57] <ben_mkiv> and gets two new mobs, 3 machines and 10 decorative blocks every year
L521[20:34:07] <ben_mkiv> which have like 100 bugs on first release xD
L522[20:42:50] <AmandaC> Exactly
L523[20:43:02] <AmandaC> If they can't do it, what makes you think one person with an itchy release finger can do better?
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L525[21:31:35] <Ushupiuck> So, I have a very quick question. is it possible to use computercraft 'programs' in OpenComputers, or is it impossible?
L526[21:32:09] <Izaya> depends on whether the program used standard lua libraries or used CC-specific functionality
L527[21:34:07] <Ushupiuck> hm, I see. I'm mostly asking since I've seen some prety cool computercraft scripts made by Direwolf20 in 1.4.7 computercraft and I'd like to replicate his setup in Modern minecraft. (That was a very powerful and easy to expand quarry btw. xD)
L528[21:34:49] <Ushupiuck> And with "modern" I mean 1.12.2
L529[21:36:16] <CompanionCube> Izaya: well, you could likely emulate *some* CC-specific functionality
L530[21:36:44] <Izaya> oh definitely, but the peripheral system is totally different to OC's component system
L531[21:36:50] <Izaya> at least last I used CC, it was all based on sides
L532[21:36:53] <CompanionCube> but
L533[21:36:57] <CompanionCube> that would require Effort
L534[21:37:14] <Izaya> if it's just redstone and networking you could happily emulate it though
L535[21:37:50] <CompanionCube> (though if it's a small script you'd spend less effort doing a rewrite yourself.)
L536[21:37:56] <Ushupiuck> uhm... just to be sure by the way. RedPower used Lua too?
L537[21:38:22] <CompanionCube> nope.
L538[21:38:23] <Izaya> Nope, RedPower computers emulated a MOS 6502 variant, which shipped with a Forth implementation
L539[21:38:34] <Izaya> There was also Microsoft BASIC available for it.
L540[21:38:50] <CompanionCube> wait, microsoft basic was a thing for 6502?
L541[21:38:52] <CompanionCube> huh
L542[21:38:58] <Izaya> of course
L543[21:39:07] <Izaya> Commodore BASIC was licensed MS BASIC
L544[21:39:13] <CompanionCube> lol
L545[21:39:22] <Ushupiuck> sounds like I'm screwed if I try to redo that x.x
L546[21:39:28] <Izaya> there's even some MS easter-eggs in it
L547[21:39:40] <CompanionCube> Ushupiuck: redo what, to be precise?
L548[21:40:03] <AmandaC> Didn't someone make a cc userland emulation for OC? I swear I saw that in someone's programs on ocvm
L549[21:40:15] <Izaya> most likely
L550[21:40:24] <Ushupiuck> The scripts used to move his quarry & dig
L551[21:40:41] <CompanionCube> userland'd be a weird term
L552[21:40:41] <Ushupiuck> one thing is adapting code, but converting from a language to another is a completely different beast
L553[21:41:13] <CompanionCube> Ushupiuck: there is something else which implements the same architecture as redpower
L554[21:41:19] <CompanionCube> RetroComputers, I believe.
L555[21:41:23] <Ushupiuck> especially 6502 which I THINK is assembly to a modern language like Lua
L556[21:42:08] <CompanionCube> https://minecraft.curseforge.com/projects/retrocomputers 'XC8010 CPU: The standard CPU implementation for this mod. Very similar to RP2's CPU, but not compatible with it (sorry no BASIC (yet))' oh
L557[21:42:26] <Izaya> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/43/KL_MOS_6502.jpg
L558[21:42:36] <Ushupiuck> well tbh CompanionCube, I'd rather choose one computer program and stick with it... otherwise I might end up mixing scripts XD
L559[21:42:37] <CompanionCube> what even is that CPU lol
L560[21:43:01] <Izaya> *technically RP2 emulated a 65C816 variant, but it was somewhere between the 65C02 and 65C816
L561[21:43:02] <CompanionCube> writing an entire quarry program in 6502 assembly sounds rather painful.
L562[21:43:13] <CompanionCube> did direwolf actually do that?
L563[21:43:20] <Izaya> probably did it in FORTH
L564[21:43:40] <Ushupiuck> Having two programming mods in minecaft would be akin to trying to write C & C++ at the same time
L565[21:43:40] <Ushupiuck> And I think he did, yep. lemme look up the specific episode
L566[21:43:50] <Izaya> but eloforth allowed direct memory access and such so converting that to a dialect easy to implement in OC sounds ... difficult
L567[21:43:55] <Izaya> or at least memory hungry
L568[21:44:15] <CompanionCube> that sounds unfun to implement
L569[21:44:20] <CompanionCube> given that OC lacks the very concept.
L570[21:44:40] <Izaya> you could do it as a table but at that point to do it 100% you'd have to emulate the 65EL02
L571[21:44:56] <Izaya> which vifino may be able to help with, but I think their work mostly involves the ZPU
L572[21:45:30] <CompanionCube> Ushupiuck: do you have a link to the script anywhere?
L573[21:45:41] <Zef> At one point I tried emultating an arbitrary 8 bit cpu in c++
L574[21:45:59] <Izaya> wasn't there someone working on uh
L575[21:46:10] <Izaya> using that multi-system emulator I forget the name of
L576[21:46:14] <Izaya> that had like the PDP-11 and such
L577[21:46:15] <CompanionCube> MAME?
L578[21:46:17] <CompanionCube> SIMH?
L579[21:46:18] <Ushupiuck> looking for it atm
L580[21:46:20] <Izaya> SIMH
L581[21:46:30] <CompanionCube> hey
L582[21:46:37] <CompanionCube> with that you could run VMS In OC :p
L583[21:46:44] <Izaya> but IIRC someone was working on connecting SIMH to OC
L584[21:48:01] <CompanionCube> Izaya: i know someone way back attempted a 6502 Architecture
L585[21:48:04] <CompanionCube> think it was gartral
L586[21:48:10] <Izaya> nah that was gamax IIRC
L587[21:48:11] <CompanionCube> ...gamax92
L588[21:48:17] <CompanionCube> i tried to tabcomplete
L589[21:48:21] <CompanionCube> but they're not here
L590[21:48:52] <CompanionCube> Ushupiuck: a screenshot of some code would work to
L591[21:50:47] <Ushupiuck> I'm on that CompanionCube; actually downloading ep.90 to see if I can find the file on his world
L592[21:51:00] <Ushupiuck> if not I gotta search for some code in the video where he made it
L593[21:54:42] <Ushupiuck> found them
L594[21:54:44] <Ushupiuck> it's two files
L595[21:55:23] <Ushupiuck> http://pastebin.com/HpxVKWV1 - turtle minning well --Engineering turtle
L596[21:55:33] <CompanionCube> turtles is a CC term
L597[21:55:39] <Ushupiuck> http://pastebin.com/BA013Bhn chunkloaders
L598[21:56:08] <Ushupiuck> doesn't OC have something equivalent to turtles?
L599[21:56:09] <CompanionCube> %wiki robot
L600[21:56:10] <MichiBot> CompanionCube: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robot - *Robot - Wikipedia*: "A robot is a machine—especially one programmable by a computer— capable of carrying out a complex series of actions automatically. Robots can be guided ..."
L601[21:56:19] <CompanionCube> %doc robot
L602[21:56:23] <AmandaC> ~w robot
L603[21:56:23] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:robot
L604[21:56:39] * AmandaC fades back into the shadows
L605[21:57:06] <Ushupiuck> I wonder what would I need to change to adapt to 1.12.2. Or if this would work with Computercraft 1.12.2 at all
L606[21:57:18] <Ushupiuck> (yes. I said CC. don't kill me for heresy x.x)
L607[21:57:49] <CompanionCube> backwards compat should be good
L608[21:57:51] <Izaya> dw we haven't done that in like 4 years
L609[21:58:31] <CompanionCube> was it ever really a thing?
L610[21:58:37] * Mimiru puts away the pitchfork and torch
L611[21:58:39] <Mimiru> Oh..
L612[21:58:41] <Mimiru> umm right
L613[21:58:51] <CompanionCube> use them on the dummy
L614[21:58:59] <Mimiru> There were a few people who got all pissy about it
L615[21:59:07] <Mimiru> Kenny was one of them I think
L616[21:59:08] * Izaya coughs
L617[21:59:14] <Izaya> wouldn't know who they were, no sir
L618[21:59:26] <Mimiru> :P I was gonna leave you out of it
L619[21:59:28] <Mimiru> but Ok :p
L620[21:59:36] <Ushupiuck> too bad direwolf doesn't makes crazy quarries like this anymore xP
L621[21:59:56] <CompanionCube> Ushupiuck: imo the script is not particularly complicated
L622[22:00:12] <Ushupiuck> Depends XD
L623[22:00:12] <CompanionCube> you could rewrite it yourself after looking over the robot and networking API
L624[22:00:30] <CompanionCube> ~w network
L625[22:00:30] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/item:network_card
L626[22:00:43] <CompanionCube> ~w modem
L627[22:00:43] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:modem
L628[22:01:30] <Ushupiuck> if only there was a CC-OC converter >.>
L629[22:01:41] <Ushupiuck> well. asking for that is to ask for miracles <.<
L630[22:02:38] * Izaya points at Ushupiuck
L631[22:02:44] <Izaya> there's your CC-OC converter :D
L632[22:03:01] <CompanionCube> take it as an opportunity
L633[22:03:51] <Ushupiuck> ..?
L634[22:03:56] <Zef> http://www.righto.com/2015/05/bitcoin-mining-on-55-year-old-ibm-1401.html
L635[22:04:06] * Ushupiuck .exe has stopped working
L636[22:04:25] <CompanionCube> why would you run windows on a human
L637[22:04:27] <CompanionCube> that's just wrong
L638[22:04:44] <Mimiru> It's ReactOS
L639[22:06:36] * Ushupiuck is restarting... [insert Windows XP jingle here]
L640[22:06:36] <Ushupiuck> Heya, I'm back! Did I miss anything..?
L641[22:06:53] * CompanionCube slaps Ushupiuck with a trout
L642[22:07:05] <CompanionCube> ew XP :p
L643[22:07:12] <CompanionCube> (as accurate as it would be)
L644[22:07:15] <Ushupiuck> Sorry, I had to. XD
L645[22:07:35] <Ushupiuck> (at least is not WinME/2000)
L646[22:07:45] <CompanionCube> true
L647[22:07:55] <CompanionCube> if it was you'd crash more frequently.
L648[22:08:00] <Izaya> eeeh
L649[22:08:02] <Izaya> 2000 was solid
L650[22:08:05] <Izaya> ME, on the other hand...
L651[22:08:31] <Ushupiuck> Iza, I'd say not to touch that, unless you wanna start ww3 in this IRC. <.<
L652[22:08:54] <CompanionCube> why would that start WW4
L653[22:08:55] <Mimiru> 2000 was great, I used advanced server for my desktop for ages
L654[22:08:57] <CompanionCube> *WW3
L655[22:08:59] <Mimiru> ME was shit.
L656[22:09:05] <PHOBOSS> Hi thought you guys might want in on this:
L657[22:09:05] <PHOBOSS> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ogh5EAlvSIo
L658[22:09:07] <MichiBot> Hytale Modding - Stronger Together with HMCore | length: 4m 39s | Likes: 13 Dislikes: 1 Views: 158 | by Hytech - Hytale Modding and Discussion | Published On 31/3/2019
L659[22:09:32] <Izaya> 2000 is fine, it's NT-based so ... relatively solid ... and it was before NT was aimed at consumers so it lacks certain undesirable qualities of later versions
L660[22:10:24] <Ushupiuck> sometimes I wonder what kind of changes where made to the linux kernel so it can run on NTFS... *points at Android*
L661[22:10:36] <CompanionCube> ...what
L662[22:10:39] <Izaya> you can't run loonix with the root on NTFS
L663[22:10:41] <CompanionCube> android does not work that way
L664[22:10:44] <Izaya> trust me on this
L665[22:10:50] <CompanionCube> android never uses NTFS
L666[22:11:13] <Ushupiuck> it's my best guess that it runs on either NTFS or some kind of FAT (FAT32 or EXFAT?)
L667[22:11:17] <CompanionCube> they use regular, decent filesystems for everything but the external sdcard
L668[22:11:22] <CompanionCube> (my tablet's ext4.)
L669[22:11:24] <Izaya> it can work with NTFS external storage but the rootfs is f2fs, extN or something similar
L670[22:11:31] <Izaya> btrfs motog3 when
L671[22:11:32] <Ushupiuck> I mean if windows can even read it...
L672[22:11:35] <Izaya> (when I bother to make it happen)
L673[22:11:41] <CompanionCube> Izaya: does it work with NTFS external storage though?
L674[22:11:48] <CompanionCube> afaik it was FAT32 only.
L675[22:11:52] <Izaya> Ushupiuck: windows does not read the storage
L676[22:12:08] <Izaya> it uses MTP, which is a trash protocol somewhat like FTP, to access the files on the device
L677[22:12:19] <Izaya> CompanionCube: it can, though my SD card is formatted as ext4
L678[22:12:26] <Ushupiuck> hm. by curiosity, what filesystem android uses?
L679[22:12:28] <CompanionCube> Izaya: does that require root
L680[22:12:33] <CompanionCube> because fuck fat32
L681[22:12:44] <Izaya> I don't think so, it worked before I took control of the device
L682[22:12:56] <CompanionCube> (also do you mean /sdcard or the external one?)
L683[22:12:57] <Izaya> Ushupiuck: ext{2,3,4}, f2fs, btrfs(?), any linux filesystem
L684[22:13:03] <Izaya> external one
L685[22:13:09] <Izaya> /sdcard is ext4 anyway
L686[22:13:14] <Izaya> on my device
L687[22:13:25] <Ushupiuck> I mean by default, the internal storage
L688[22:13:29] <Izaya> yes
L689[22:13:29] * CompanionCube currently has PDFs stuck on /sdcard because FAT32 a shit.
L690[22:13:38] <Izaya> ext{2,3,4}, f2fs, or btrfs maybe
L691[22:13:43] <Izaya> also maybe some internal ones
L692[22:13:45] <CompanionCube> stupid windows name limitations
L693[22:13:47] <Izaya> depending on vendor
L694[22:14:06] <Ushupiuck> because IF IT IS ext4 it makes no fucking sense that windows can't access linux partitions natively >.>
L695[22:14:15] <Izaya> yes it does?
L696[22:14:17] <CompanionCube> Ushupiuck: see above.
L697[22:14:21] <Izaya> because windows doesn't access the partitions
L698[22:14:23] <Izaya> see above
L699[22:14:26] <CompanionCube> 'it uses MTP, which is a trash protocol somewhat like FTP, to access the files on the device'
L700[22:14:38] <CompanionCube> external direct block access would be rather insane.
L701[22:14:46] <Izaya> android hasn't allowed direct flash access since 1.x or 2.x
L702[22:15:08] <Izaya> CompanionCube: it'd be really convenient but what do I know
L703[22:15:17] <CompanionCube> Izaya: but that's why it's bad
L704[22:15:24] <CompanionCube> I bet you could use it to break security somehow.
L705[22:15:34] <Izaya> (probably more convenient if only accessible via fastboot on rooted devices but anyway)
L706[22:15:45] <Ushupiuck> And what is MTP..? some sort of "dictionary" protocol which tells windows how to read the android filesystem? an emulation layer?
L707[22:15:49] <Ushupiuck> I feel confused
L708[22:15:56] <Izaya> Ushupiuck: you know what FTP is?
L709[22:16:01] <CompanionCube> ~wiki MTP
L710[22:16:01] <ocdoc> Predicted http://www.lua.org/manual/5.2/manual.html#pdf-math.pi
L711[22:16:07] <Izaya> %wiki mtp
L712[22:16:07] <CompanionCube> what
L713[22:16:09] <MichiBot> Izaya: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Transfer_Protocol - *Media Transfer Protocol - Wikipedia*: "Unless the operating system exposes the MTP device as a virtual file system (a drive letter on Windows), ..."
L714[22:16:21] <Izaya> CompanionCube: ocdoc only does OC wiki, MichiBot does wikipedia
L715[22:16:27] <Ushupiuck> to be honest, I don't remember
L716[22:16:47] <Ushupiuck> File Transfer Protocol?
L717[22:16:56] <CompanionCube> correctamundo
L718[22:17:36] <Ushupiuck> but isn't that a network protocol?
L719[22:17:43] <Izaya> USB is a form of network :^)
L720[22:17:58] <Izaya> and either way, MTP is designed for USB and similar
L721[22:18:01] <Ushupiuck> ...Interesting
L722[22:18:16] <Izaya> Ushupiuck: basically, when you look at an android device's FS on Windows, Windows asks the device "what files are in this folder" and the device responds with a list. Then it can ask "show me this file" and the device sends the file. The device accesses the filesystem and exposes it over MTP so other devices can access it, without needing to ever touch the storage devices directly
L723[22:18:46] <Izaya> hence, Windows still lacks drivers for a worthwhile FS, but it doesn't need any FS drivers at all to access MTP
L724[22:19:02] <Ushupiuck> on an off-topic note. I am wondering what would it take to run windows in an ext4 partition. And yes I mean editing the "kernel" before anyone says it's impossible
L725[22:19:18] <Izaya> ... which version of windows?
L726[22:19:36] <Izaya> 3.1? NT4? XP? 7?
L727[22:19:39] <CompanionCube> at that point may as well run reactos :p
L728[22:19:41] <Ushupiuck> I'd say either 7 or 10
L729[22:19:50] <Izaya> dark magic, and undoing about 20 years of work
L730[22:20:04] <Izaya> ext4 and ntfs are very different beasts
L731[22:20:16] <Izaya> because NTFS had some really cool features back in the day when it wasn't OTFS
L732[22:20:32] <CompanionCube> also, if you were gonna do the dark magic anyway, pick someting better than ext4
L733[22:20:41] <Ushupiuck> I bet a full re-implementation of Windows on ext4 would run better than with NTFS >.>
L734[22:20:48] <CompanionCube> which is not substantially better than NTFS itself.
L735[22:20:53] <Izaya> but now stuff depends on those wack features nobody cares about and removing that dependency would involve significant rewrites
L736[22:21:03] <Izaya> at which point
L737[22:21:17] <Izaya> ｉｎｓｔａｌｌ　ｒｅａｃｔｏｓ
L738[22:21:33] <Ushupiuck> I'd say yes but also Nope >.>
L739[22:21:47] <Ushupiuck> As a gamer, it lacks a few things
L740[22:22:02] <Ushupiuck> like, I think right now there's no Direct X support yet?
L741[22:22:19] <Izaya> give it a few years, DirectX will be dead by the time they want to roll out DX13
L742[22:22:27] <CompanionCube> also wine
L743[22:22:30] <Izaya> ^
L744[22:22:33] <CompanionCube> and dxvk
L745[22:22:37] <Izaya> does ReactOS have Vulkan support?
L746[22:22:44] <Ushupiuck> Wine. "Wine is not an emulator"
L747[22:22:56] <Ushupiuck> yea... Wine is kinda tricky XD
L748[22:23:00] <CompanionCube> Ushupiuck: implements directx though
L749[22:23:11] <CompanionCube> so you can steal their implementation of it
L750[22:23:30] <Izaya> (WINE and the ReactOS team work closely due to the amount of shared code)
L751[22:23:35] <Ushupiuck> Note to self: Next year, start programming at the uni
L752[22:24:16] <CompanionCube> the hard part would be writing good kernel GPU drivers
L753[22:24:23] <Izaya> though really if you're replacing Windows with something saner, install Haiku :^)
L754[22:24:36] <Ushupiuck> I'll be totally honest, the first time I was introduced to programming? it was by looking at a disassembly in SonicRetro; Motorola 68000/68k, when I was 12.
L755[22:24:49] <Ushupiuck> I was surprised that such an ASM language was also easily understandable
L756[22:25:10] <CompanionCube> tbf it's 68k
L757[22:25:25] <CompanionCube> wasn't that designed to have nice, readable assembly?
L758[22:25:27] <Izaya> it's meant to be ez
L759[22:25:38] <Ushupiuck> now if you tell me Z80. that was chinese to me XD
L760[22:25:47] <Izaya> the 68k and related were about making it easy for the programmer
L761[22:25:50] <Ushupiuck> in the sense of "too reduced commands"
L762[22:25:58] <Izaya> the PDP-11 and VAX were also designed like that
L763[22:26:04] <CompanionCube> so you wan't take any RISC?
L764[22:26:07] <CompanionCube> badum tiss
L765[22:26:24] <Izaya> though after everyone switched to high-level languages like C RISC took over
L766[22:26:24] <Ushupiuck> there's one thing I LOVE about 68k that C doesn't seems to have! logic jumps
L767[22:26:29] <Izaya> (x86 was always ass)
L768[22:26:47] <Ushupiuck> you can do a shitton of tests
L769[22:26:52] <CompanionCube> Izaya: x86: when your CISC becomes a RISC.
L770[22:26:55] <Izaya> Ushupiuck: it does, it's just abstracted. If you compiled C for the 68k it'd use them
L771[22:27:05] <Izaya> CompanionCube: has computing gone too far?
L772[22:27:25] <CompanionCube> Izaya: too far would be OISC.
L773[22:27:39] <Izaya> One Instruction Set Computing?
L774[22:27:49] <CompanionCube> yep
L775[22:27:53] <Izaya> are we talking x86 MOV as an ISA, or just all the instruction sets as one instruction set
L776[22:27:58] <Ushupiuck> branch if equal, if not equal, if bigger than, if bigger or equal, branch & loop, branch to subroutine, etc.
L777[22:28:04] <Ushupiuck> just to name a few
L778[22:28:08] <CompanionCube> Izaya: well
L779[22:28:11] <Ushupiuck> there's a ton more XD
L780[22:28:17] <CompanionCube> the former
L781[22:28:39] <CompanionCube> or something equivalent, like SUBLEQ.
L782[22:29:23] <CompanionCube> (can you believe someone was crazy enough to write an OS for an OSIC machine they made?)
L783[22:29:24] <Ushupiuck> I kinda wonder how we do those types of checks in languages like C++, java or similar
L784[22:29:40] <Izaya> CompanionCube: yes, sounds like fun
L785[22:29:42] <CompanionCube> Ushupiuck: compiler explorer is your friend for c++
L786[22:29:43] <Izaya> slow fun
L787[22:30:22] <Ushupiuck> another lil. thing I adore about that language: Sega used it for it's games.
L788[22:30:31] <CompanionCube> Izaya: http://gerigeri.uw.hu/DawnOS/index.html
L789[22:30:50] <Ushupiuck> and Sonic 3 & knuckles shows that you can make a beast of a game without the need of taking 100mb+ of ram
L790[22:30:52] <CompanionCube> it's like templeos but for OSIC.
L791[22:30:56] <CompanionCube> *OISC.
L792[22:31:28] <Izaya> CompanionCube: didn't Druaga1 do a video of this?
L793[22:31:37] <CompanionCube> idfk
L794[22:31:47] <Ushupiuck> which tbh is what I sorta dislike 'bout some modern 2d games <.< they throw ram aside
L795[22:31:57] <Izaya> Ushupiuck: you should get into golfing in OC :^)
L796[22:32:08] <Ushupiuck> golf? no thanks
L797[22:32:09] * CompanionCube throws Electron at Ushupiuck
L798[22:32:14] * Izaya has managed a multi-user, multi-tasking, networked OS in 4k of code using about 64k of RAM
L799[22:32:20] <Ushupiuck> but y--*bzzzt*
L800[22:32:35] <CompanionCube> Ushupiuck: they mean *code* golf :p
L801[22:32:53] <Izaya> I should have another go at that some time.
L802[22:32:59] <Izaya> PsychOS2 is kind of too large for that now.
L803[22:33:02] <Ushupiuck> Izaya, ya get my point right..? >.> if you can optimize something so it's memory efficient, do it right ahead.
L804[22:33:02] <Izaya> Still fine for netboot.
L805[22:33:41] <Ushupiuck> if they could do it with... 8mb of ram I think they had? shouldn't we be able to do the same and better, using as little ram as possible?
L806[22:34:02] <Izaya> it's about balancing development time vs end product
L807[22:34:20] <Izaya> I'm not against programs growing a bit, if it means more development happens faster
L808[22:34:31] ⇦ Quits: Thutmose (Thutmose!~Patrick@host-69-59-79-181.nctv.com) (Quit: Leaving.)
L809[22:34:33] <CompanionCube> Ushupiuck: they also had simpler tasks to do
L810[22:34:43] <AmandaC> Lua is also way different than assembler instructions
L811[22:34:56] * Izaya is, however, against programs running in chrome because developers are too lazy to actually do anything but some mediocre web development
L812[22:35:25] <Ushupiuck> I sorta get it
L813[22:35:26] <Izaya> anyway
L814[22:35:28] <Izaya> I must bail
L815[22:35:34] <Izaya> as I have a thing to get to
L816[22:35:36] <Ushupiuck> tho sometimes it's better if you take your time with it
L817[22:35:42] <Izaya> enjoy your day everyone o7
L818[22:35:50] <Ushupiuck> g'nite Izaya
L819[22:36:05] <AmandaC> Izaya: so you're saying I should use something like anbox to connect to my cloud-based irc client, then?
L820[22:36:29] <Ushupiuck> BTW remember CompanionCube, don't do programming at 3am. should be kinda obvious why but just in case XD
L821[22:36:39] <CompanionCube> lies.
L822[22:36:55] <AmandaC> Def. Lies
L823[22:36:58] <Ushupiuck> last thing you want is to accidantally misspell variables that are "like_this" as "like-this"
L824[22:36:58] <Izaya> AmandaC: burning fur is an unpleasant smell
L825[22:37:19] <CompanionCube> Ushupiuck: that's what your editor/compiler is for :p
L826[22:37:29] <Ushupiuck> ..?
L827[22:37:44] <Ushupiuck> I mean yes but once you made the mistakes, go and find them XD
L828[22:38:01] <Ushupiuck> especially if the compiler refuses to tell you since it looks like valid code
L829[22:38:50] <AmandaC> My best debugging session ever, involving a printf story of a princess finding a jetpack and saving the kingdom, happen late night
L830[22:39:19] <Ushupiuck> sounds like fun
L831[22:39:51] <AmandaC> I wish I didn't accidentally delete that paste
L832[22:40:38] <Ushupiuck> by curiosity btw, how hard would it be to disassembly a mod if I wanted to? say I wanted to port a mod, I have permission but the source code is no longer avaliable
L833[22:41:36] <Ushupiuck> yes, I of course mean decompiling
L834[22:42:09] <Ushupiuck> (the above is an hypothetical scenario BTW)
L835[22:44:31] <Ushupiuck> I'll take the silence as "confidential info"
L836[22:45:15] <Ushupiuck> thanks anyways ='3
L837[22:45:40] ⇦ Quits: Ushupiuck (Ushupiuck!webchat@customer-190-107-122-112.megacable.com.ar) (Quit: webchat.esper.net)
L838[22:46:27] <CompanionCube> lol java is easy af to decompile
L839[23:51:07] <Kleadron> Izaya: how did you get PsychOS to multitask? And how does it work?
L840[23:51:37] ⇦ Quits: Cervator (Cervator!~Thunderbi@2601:4c1:4000:362c:3552:69f2:d9ed:6a3b) (Quit: Cervator)
L841[23:54:27] <CompanionCube> well, cooperative multitasking is definitely possible with coroutines
L842[23:54:44] <Forecaster> %tonk
L843[23:54:45] <MichiBot> Fudge! Forecaster! You beat CompanionCube's previous record of 3 hours, 15 minutes and 41 seconds (By 4 hours and 19 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L844[23:54:46] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 7 hours and 16 minutes! Forecaster also gained 0.01604 (0.00401 x 4) tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L845[23:54:49] <CompanionCube> what you can't do afaik is specifically preemptive multitasking
L846[23:55:16] * CompanionCube was going to tonk earlier but was distracted by the conversation
L847[23:55:59] <Kleadron> I read about preemptive multitasking
L848[23:56:21] <Kleadron> it apparently has to do with interrupting the program and then safely resuming it
L849[23:56:58] <CompanionCube> (btw, ~every modern OS is preemptive)
L850[23:57:23] <Kleadron> I guess you can't easily do that in Lua because interrupting the program wont let you get it back unless you started it again
L851[23:57:29] <Kleadron> and yes i know
L852[23:58:05] * CompanionCube wonders how much you'd need to extend OCLua to support preemption.
L853[23:58:34] <Kleadron> you could probably have some sort of "runtime" executable that handles all the values and arrays and everything
L854[23:58:44] <Kleadron> and then can be terminated and another one could be started
L855[23:58:56] ⇨ Joins: Maikeru (Maikeru!~maikeru@c-73-144-203-111.hsd1.mi.comcast.net)
L856[23:58:59] <Kleadron> and when the first one is started back up it could resume handling the values
L857[23:59:04] <CompanionCube> maybe you could somehow bolt-on a PC-style IRQ system
L858[23:59:21] <Maikeru> hey guys
L859[23:59:28] <CompanionCube> but how well does that translate into lua?
L860[23:59:31] <Mimiru> %hello
L861[23:59:32] <MichiBot> Mimiru: Hello! Welcome to #oc! The one and only opencomputers channel! Please ask your questions directly (dont ask to ask) and provide error/code examples! (Use pastebin.com if theyre more than one line!) Dont mind the random conversation you might have walked into.
L862[23:59:32] <Maikeru> MG OWHAT THE FUCK
L863[23:59:50] <Mimiru> o_O
L864[23:59:51] <Maikeru> sorry, slow friend typing on my computer xD
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