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L1[00:14:00] <Temia> %tonk
L2[00:14:01] <MichiBot> Zounderkite! Temia!
You beat Lizzy's previous record of 1 hour, 46 minutes and 52
seconds! I hope you're happy!
L3[00:14:02] <MichiBot> Temia's new record
is 3 hours, 59 minutes and 10 seconds! 2 hours, 12 minutes and 18
seconds gained!
L4[00:14:17] <Temia> Oh my god, less than a
minute away from 4?
L5[00:14:21] <Temia> %tonkout
L6[00:14:21] <MichiBot> Temia has tonked
out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.003 tonk points! plus 0.004
bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 0.015
L7[00:14:48] <Temia> Huh. Okay
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L10[01:56:20] <asie> %tonk
L11[01:56:21] <MichiBot> Dagnabbit! asie!
You beat Temia's previous record of <0! I hope you're
happy!
L12[01:56:22] <MichiBot> asie's new record
is 1 hour, 41 minutes and 59 seconds! 1 hour, 41 minutes and 59
seconds gained!
L13[03:27:43] <Skye> %tonk
L14[03:27:44] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Skye,
you were not able to beat asie's record of 1 hour, 41 minutes and
59 seconds this time.
L15[03:27:45] <MichiBot> 1 hour, 31 minutes
and 23 seconds were wasted! Missed by 10 minutes and 36
seconds!
L16[03:27:56] * Skye
flees
L17[03:28:50]
<Forecaster>
:
L18[03:28:53]
<Forecaster>
:| [Edited]
L19[03:30:10]
<Kleadron>
forecaster your avatar is frightening
L20[03:30:27]
<Forecaster>
:P
L21[03:30:38]
<Kleadron>
use mine as the response
L22[03:32:20]
<Forecaster>
Is this better
L23[03:47:15]
<Kleadron>
no
L24[03:47:44]
<Forecaster>
oh wel
L25[03:47:47]
<Forecaster>
oh well [Edited]
L26[03:50:31]
<Skye> .
_.
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L28[05:26:47] <Lizzy> %tonk
L29[05:26:48] <MichiBot> Voldemort! Lizzy!
You beat asie's previous record of 1 hour, 41 minutes and 59
seconds! I hope you're happy!
L30[05:26:49] <MichiBot> Lizzy's new record
is 1 hour, 59 minutes and 3 seconds! 17 minutes and 4 seconds
gained!
L31[05:29:38]
<Rph> missed
1 more point by 57 seconds
L32[05:41:44]
<Forecaster>
actually missed 3 more points because bonus
L33[05:41:45]
<Forecaster>
:P
L34[05:42:08]
<Rph>
bonus??
L35[05:42:21]
<Forecaster>
you now get bonus points for consecutive hours
L36[05:42:33]
<Rph> damn I
need to beat lizzy and tonkout then
L37[05:42:37]
<Forecaster>
so if you get 2 hours you get 0.002 + 0.002 points
L38[05:43:05]
<Forecaster>
if you get 3 hours you'd get 0.003 + 0.005 I think
L39[05:43:16]
<Forecaster>
wait
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L41[05:44:37]
<Forecaster>
it's (hours / 1000) + ((2 * (hours - 1)) / 1000
L42[05:44:46]
<Forecaster>
the second part is the bonus and only applies if hours > 1
L43[05:45:45]
<Forecaster>
so with 3 hours it'd actually be 0.003 + 0.004 points
L44[05:46:16]
<Forecaster>
basically for each hour past the first you get 0.002 extra
points
L45[05:58:08]
<13
Grimores> %tonk
L46[05:58:31]
<13
Grimores> :3
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L48[06:20:21] zsh
sets mode: +v on Vexatos
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L50[06:33:40]
<Bob>
computer beeps are still played while game is paused in SG
L51[06:34:42]
<Bob> got it
working in main menu
L52[06:34:44]
<Bob> my
ears
L53[06:34:44]
<Bob>
god
L54[06:34:57]
<Bob> ~~it
even works when i quitted the game~~
L55[06:34:58] *
Izaya squints
L56[06:35:12] <Izaya> I feel like I should
know what SG is but I presume it's not Stargate
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L58[06:35:22]
<Bob>
SinglePlayer SP sorry
L59[06:35:24]
<Bob>
oof
L60[06:35:33]
<Bob> just
was disturbed by the sounds
L61[06:35:58]
<Bob>
petition to ban computer.beep and instead force people to have
sound cards
L62[06:36:31] <Izaya> denied
L63[06:36:39] <Izaya> computer.beep is an
important debugging tool
L64[06:37:24]
<Rph>
:(
L65[06:37:38]
<Rph> I do
debugging with overlays and component.gpu
L66[06:37:39]
<Bob>
sound.play
L67[06:37:42]
<Bob> i use
print
L68[06:37:48]
<Rph> what
about bios development
L69[06:37:51]
<Rph> or os
development
L70[06:38:00] <Izaya> I beep by frequencies
increasing by 100 for each module loaded successfully
L71[06:38:30]
<Rph> ill
load 21 modules and break your program then
L72[06:38:56] <Izaya> %20000 :^)
L73[06:40:35]
<Bob>
yes
L74[06:41:41]
<Forecaster>
%potion
L75[06:41:42] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You
get a boiling green potion
L76[06:41:45]
<Forecaster>
%drink ^
L77[06:41:45] <MichiBot> Forecaster loses
exactly a handful of luck.
L78[06:41:51]
<Forecaster>
dang
L79[06:42:26] <Izaya> Bob: but %20000
L80[06:42:43] <Izaya> (well, %19800, +200,
but anyway)
L81[06:44:11]
<Rph>
%potion
L82[06:44:11] <MichiBot> Rph: You get a
sour copper potion
L83[06:44:16]
<Rph> %drink
^
L84[06:44:16] <MichiBot> Rph gains one
point of speed.
L85[06:44:31]
<Rph>
nice
L86[06:45:55] *
Lizzy grumbles, wonders where her Vega64 is
L87[07:30:26]
<Rph>
%tonk
L88[07:30:26] <MichiBot> Fopdoodle! Rph!
You beat Lizzy's previous record of 1 hour, 59 minutes and 3
seconds! I hope you're happy!
L89[07:30:27] <MichiBot> Rph's new record
is 2 hours, 3 minutes and 38 seconds! 4 minutes and 34 seconds
gained!
L90[07:30:31]
<Rph>
ahahahah
L91[07:30:42]
<Rph> time
to tonk out
L92[07:30:44]
<Rph>
%tonkout
L93[07:30:44] <MichiBot> Rph has tonked
out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.002 tonk points! plus 0.002
bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 0.011
L94[07:33:59]
<Rph>
%tonk
L95[07:34:00] <MichiBot> Fudge! Rph! You
beat your own previous record of <0! I hope you're happy!
L96[07:34:01] <MichiBot> Rph's new record
is 3 minutes and 15 seconds! 3 minutes and 15 seconds gained!
L97[07:40:12] *
AmandaC lays quietly on a package addressed to Lizzy,
sleeping
L98[07:46:04] *
Lizzy hmmms
L99[07:46:13] <Lizzy> %tonk
L100[07:46:13] <MichiBot> Consarn it!
Lizzy! You beat Rph's previous record of 3 minutes and 15 seconds!
I hope you're happy!
L101[07:46:14] <MichiBot> Lizzy's new
record is 12 minutes and 13 seconds! 8 minutes and 58 seconds
gained!
L102[08:12:54] <Lizzy> %tonk
L103[08:12:55] <MichiBot> Goshhawk! Lizzy!
You beat your own previous record of 12 minutes and 13 seconds! I
hope you're happy!
L104[08:12:56] <MichiBot> Lizzy's new
record is 26 minutes and 41 seconds! 14 minutes and 27 seconds
gained!
L105[08:42:40] <Temia> %tonk
L106[08:42:40] <MichiBot> Gadsbudlikins!
Temia! You beat Lizzy's previous record of 26 minutes and 41
seconds! I hope you're happy!
L107[08:42:41] <MichiBot> Temia's new
record is 29 minutes and 45 seconds! 3 minutes and 4 seconds
gained!
L108[08:42:59] <Temia> Slow day
L109[08:44:42] <Inari> %pet Temia
L110[08:44:44] *
MichiBot pets Temia with C Pound. 3 health gained!
L111[08:44:44] <Inari> Meowning
L112[08:45:00] <Inari> AmandaC: That look
xD
L113[08:45:20] <Temia> Moorning
L114[08:45:25] <Inari> Haha
L115[08:45:29] <Temia> '^'
L116[08:45:33] <Temia> What? It's how I
say it
L117[08:45:48] <Inari> I know, and I found
it amusing :D
L119[09:12:20]
<Rph> maybe
it writes too fast
L120[09:19:52] <AmandaC> %8ball
hallucinate in public?
L121[09:19:52] <MichiBot> AmandaC: My
reply is no
L122[09:20:15]
<Rph>
discord screwed up the message order
L123[09:20:23]
<Rph> so it
looks as if michibot replies before you even ask
L124[09:20:31] <AmandaC> What do you mean?
She did
L126[09:20:52] <AmandaC> MichiBot: can
predict the future now
L127[09:21:01] <AmandaC> Answering
questions before they're even asked
L128[09:21:03]
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L129[09:21:45] <AmandaC> You definitely
don't need to check the irc logs to see if I'm lying, why would I
lie about that?
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L131[09:41:02]
<Forecaster>
Inari surely you meant "Amoosing"
L132[09:42:16] <Inari> [16:19:52]
<+MichiBot> AmandaC: My reply is no
L133[09:42:17] <Inari> [16:19:53]
<AmandaC> %8ball hallucinate in public?
L134[09:43:00] <Inari> Aside that, does
IRC even guarnatee message order? I wouldn't think so, but no
clue
L135[09:44:15] <AmandaC> I don't think so,
it relies on TCP and the implementation of the ircs
L136[09:44:21] <AmandaC> Ircd*
L137[09:45:21]
<Rph> I made
a very amusing thing
L138[09:45:25]
<Rph> png
-> lua
L139[09:46:12]
<Rph>
%tonk
L140[09:46:12] <MichiBot> Waesucks! Rph!
You beat Temia's previous record of 29 minutes and 45 seconds! I
hope you're happy!
L141[09:46:13] <MichiBot> Rph's new record
is 1 hour, 3 minutes and 32 seconds! 33 minutes and 46 seconds
gained!
L142[09:46:27] <Inari> AmandaC: Yeah, but
TCP just guarantees that of a single stream
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L144[10:04:35]
<Zef>
ben_mkiv do you think I should try to make fan vents on that case?
With like 1x1 strips?
L145[10:05:01] <ben_mkiv> which
case?
L146[10:05:51]
<Zef> The
nzxt case
L147[10:07:16] <ben_mkiv> no keep it as it
is
L148[10:07:25]
<Zef>
Alright cool
L149[10:17:41]
<Zef> I
should send a picture of what it looks like now hold on
L151[10:23:42]
<Zef>
Actually looks nice now
L152[10:24:18]
<Rph> is
that for oc?\
L153[10:24:20]
<Rph> is
that for oc? [Edited]
L154[10:27:16]
<Zef>
Yes
L156[10:28:16]
<Zef> Not in
it yet
L157[10:28:18]
<Zef> I
don't think
L158[10:28:28]
<Rph>
1.12
L159[10:28:33]
<Zef> Bens
still working on his screens
L160[10:28:34]
<Rph> can't
use it then
L161[10:28:52]
<Zef> Don't
know what to tell you then
L162[10:29:06]
<Rph> eh ill
wait until the server I play on upgrades
L163[10:41:26]
<Bob> i
don't think i will really get OC devices rip
L164[10:41:36]
<Bob>
Computronics has external block components and fatscreen idk
L165[10:41:48]
<Bob> maybe
one day when ill get a powerfull enought pc to put all the mods i
want
L166[10:42:46] <ben_mkiv> computronics
doesnt have screens
L167[10:43:36] <ben_mkiv> neither a
external housing for occards
L168[10:43:58]
<Bob> sorry
ben but i will maybe get it later ?
L169[10:44:12] <ben_mkiv> you dont have to
be sorry xD
L170[10:44:37]
<Bob> well i
try to make scripts that require the lesst components
L171[10:45:30] <ben_mkiv> but the only
thing in ocdevices that requires "resources" are the
cases
L172[10:45:31]
<Zef> That
doesn't really have anything to do with it
L173[10:45:41] <ben_mkiv> as they are
pretty high poly compared to normal block models
L174[10:45:48]
<Zef> The
screen is just a screen
L175[10:46:19] <ben_mkiv> which actually
uses the same rendercode as OC screens
L176[10:46:38] <ben_mkiv> plus some quads
for the box around them, so they dont even have textures
actually
L177[10:46:43]
<Zef>
Highest cube case is 98 cubes
L178[10:46:55] <ben_mkiv> ....
L179[10:47:06] <ben_mkiv> which and why
98?
L180[10:47:19]
<Bob>
Minecraft Engine : Melts my poor GTX 650
L181[10:47:38] <Lizzy> %tonk
L182[10:47:38] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Lizzy,
you were not able to beat Rph's record of 1 hour, 3 minutes and 32
seconds this time.
L183[10:47:39] <MichiBot> 1 hour, 1 minute
and 25 seconds were wasted! Missed by 2 minutes and 6
seconds!
L184[10:47:48] <Lizzy> oh fuck off
L185[10:48:12]
<Rph>
:)
L186[10:48:26]
<Rph>
Close
L187[10:49:39]
<Zef> ben
the sun cube workstation
L188[10:49:45] <ben_mkiv> eeek
L189[10:49:50]
<Zef>
Because of all the detailing on the front
L190[10:49:52] <ben_mkiv> are that all
cubes in the front panel?
L191[10:50:00] <ben_mkiv> cant you use
stips to make the grid?
L192[10:50:01]
<Zef> No
that's total
L193[10:50:10]
<Zef> They
are strips
L194[10:50:12] <ben_mkiv> ok
L195[10:50:37]
<Rph> Hmmm
does minecraft engine have any antialiasing at all?
L196[10:50:52]
<Zef> I know
optifine does
L197[10:50:58]
<Zef> Don't
know about vanilla
L198[10:51:16]
<Rph>
Hmmm
L199[10:51:37]
<Rph>
Compared to other games minecraft video settings seem lacking
L200[10:51:52]
<Zef> I
wonder why
L201[10:52:35]
<Rph>
Hmmm
L202[11:00:43] <asie> minecraft does not
do AA by default
L203[11:01:12]
<Bob>
yep
L204[11:01:14]
<Bob>
optifineee
L205[11:03:50]
<Z0idburg>
There got my Jeep unstuck
L206[11:03:59]
<Z0idburg>
It reeks of gasoline like nuts
L207[11:06:51] <AmandaC> I'm pretty sure
your not supposed to eat nuts that smell like gasoline
L208[11:08:25] *
Lizzy grumbles about her gpu still not being here
L209[11:09:22] <Lizzy> it's not even the
gpu that's out of stock, it's the games they send with it
L210[11:09:31] <Lizzy> at least that's
what i can tell
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L213[11:16:04]
<Rph> That
art is slightly unsettling
L214[11:19:53] <Temia> %tonk
L215[11:19:54] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Temia,
you were not able to beat Rph's record of 1 hour, 3 minutes and 32
seconds this time.
L216[11:19:55] <MichiBot> 32 minutes and
15 seconds were wasted! Missed by 31 minutes and 16 seconds!
L217[11:20:11] <Temia> Oh, missed Lizzy
doing i
L218[11:24:25]
<Rph> You
wanted to outtonk me but Lizzy pulled a bait&switch
L219[11:25:21] <AmandaC> %8ball car
??
L220[11:25:21] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Ask
again later
L221[11:51:36]
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L222[11:58:25]
<Rph>
%tonkout
L223[11:58:26] <MichiBot> Rph has tonked
out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.001 tonk points! Current
score: 0.012
L224[12:01:41]
<Rph>
%tonk
L225[12:01:41] <MichiBot> Gadsbudlikins!
Rph! You beat your own previous record of <0! I hope you're
happy!
L226[12:01:42] <MichiBot> Rph's new record
is 3 minutes and 15 seconds! 3 minutes and 15 seconds gained!
L227[12:11:39] <AmandaC> %tonk
L228[12:11:40] <MichiBot> Gadsbudlikins!
AmandaC! You beat Rph's previous record of 3 minutes and 15
seconds! I hope you're happy!
L229[12:11:41] <MichiBot> AmandaC's new
record is 9 minutes and 58 seconds! 6 minutes and 43 seconds
gained!
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L232[12:33:04]
<Rph>
%tonk
L233[12:33:05] <MichiBot> Avada Kedavra!
Rph! You beat AmandaC's previous record of 9 minutes and 58
seconds! I hope you're happy!
L234[12:33:06] <MichiBot> Rph's new record
is 21 minutes and 24 seconds! 11 minutes and 26 seconds
gained!
L235[12:47:24]
<Wattana
Gaming> The development of my kernel has been a slow ride lately
:/
L236[13:04:20]
<Zef> I
guess I have no choice but to use opencomputers
L237[13:04:37]
<Zef> I
tried doing cheap and easier cc but it doesn't read nbt data
L238[13:04:54]
<Zef> Should
actually test that opencomputers does first
L239[13:06:54] <AmandaC> You have to
toggle a value to enable NBT in OC
L240[13:07:02] <AmandaC> ( in the config
)
L241[13:07:10]
<Zef> Fuck
alright
L242[13:07:16]
<Zef> Doing
single player so I can do thar
L243[13:07:35]
<Zef> I
wanna automate growing astral sorcery crystals
L244[13:09:00] <ben_mkiv> i want to play
now -.-
L245[13:09:07]
<Rph>
%tonk
L246[13:09:07] <MichiBot> Dogast! Rph! You
beat your own previous record of 21 minutes and 24 seconds! I hope
you're happy!
L247[13:09:08] <ben_mkiv> automated
starlight liquid with oc back then
L248[13:09:08] <MichiBot> Rph's new record
is 36 minutes and 2 seconds! 14 minutes and 37 seconds
gained!
L249[13:10:43]
<Zef> Is the
setting I'm looking for allowItemStackNBTTags?
L250[13:11:04]
<Zef> It
says the recommended method is using the database component
instead
L251[13:17:51] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L252[13:17:51] <MichiBot> I'm sorry
CompanionCube, you were not able to beat Rph's record of 36 minutes
and 2 seconds this time.
L253[13:17:52] <MichiBot> 8 minutes and 43
seconds were wasted! Missed by 27 minutes and 18 seconds!
L254[13:18:09]
<Zef>
Seriously
L255[13:18:14]
<Zef> It's
literally 5 messages up
L256[13:22:32]
<Trainfan91>
if i install multiple raids, how do i know in open OS which one IS
Which
L257[13:22:52]
<Bob>
Addresses :GWqlabsPraise:
L258[13:27:50]
<Trainfan91>
stupid question, how high can a open computers disk be as far as
the config files goes? if i say... wanted to give one a max
capacity of 2gb, could i?
L259[13:29:01]
<Trainfan91>
any1 have an answer?
L260[13:30:13]
<Trainfan91>
HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO??
L261[13:31:01]
<Trainfan91>
PLEASE?
L262[13:34:12]
<Trainfan91>
echo, o ,o o, lol
L263[13:35:05] <AmandaC> @Trainfan91
Goddesses above, patience. You didn't even wait 10 minutes before
spamming
L264[13:35:10] <AmandaC> Not everyone is
here all the time.
L265[13:35:24] <AmandaC> AFAIK there's no
upper limit, but I've not looked.
L266[13:36:26]
<Zef> How do
I actually go about using the database?
L267[13:36:53]
<Zef> As far
as I can tell theres no way to put information in it and trying to
read slot 1 when there is an item in it returns nil
L268[13:37:31] <AmandaC> @Zef you
rightclick to add items to the db
L269[13:37:48]
<Zef>
Oh
L270[13:37:54]
<Zef>
Interesting
L271[13:39:23]
<Zef> Lol
okay nvm
L272[13:39:34]
<Zef> Not
doing this with opencomputers either
L273[13:39:52]
<Zef> The
nbt tag is
L274[13:40:12]
<Zef>
\31?\8\0\0\0\0...
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L277[13:42:40] <AmandaC> IT's gzipped raw
NBT data
L278[13:43:37] <AmandaC> %8ball halucinate
time?
L279[13:43:37] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Without
a doubt
L280[13:46:28]
<Trainfan91>
soo, any1 still have an answer?
L281[13:47:02]
<Trainfan91>
soo, any1 have an answer? [Edited]
L282[13:47:05] <Mimiru> >[11:35:21]
<AmandaC> AFAIK there's no upper limit, but I've not
looked.
L283[13:50:58]
<Kodos>
Anyone have recommendations for a dedicated Minecraft server host
for modded
L284[13:51:57] <Mimiru> I've used
Creeperhost in the past... they're "Ok"
L285[13:52:20] <Mimiru> Depending on your
budget it might be better to pickup a cheapish dedicated box and
run it youself with like AMP or something
L286[13:52:54]
<Kodos> I’m
getting some money in April. I wanted to look at paying out a year
in advance.
L287[13:53:17]
<Kodos> But
I don’t want a vm or vps
L288[13:53:51] <Mimiru> CH is going to be
a VPS, they're not dedicated.. Most MC hosts are
L289[13:54:06] <ben_mkiv> dont most
minecraft hosters use vms?
L290[13:54:09] <ben_mkiv> or kvm
L291[13:54:12] <Mimiru> yeah
L292[13:54:30] <ben_mkiv> so end of day
you might share a core with another server
L293[13:54:34] <Lizzy> as long as the host
doesn't overcomit resources a VM/VPS might be okay
L294[13:55:26]
<Rph>
%tonk
L295[13:55:28] <MichiBot> Dagnammit! Rph!
You beat your own previous record of 36 minutes and 2 seconds! I
hope you're happy!
L296[13:55:29] <MichiBot> Rph's new record
is 37 minutes and 37 seconds! 1 minute and 34 seconds gained!
L297[13:55:50] <ben_mkiv> here you can
rent a dedicated for 34� which could host 7 servers with dedicated
cores
L298[13:56:11] <Mimiru> 34�! what a
deal!
L299[13:56:30] <ben_mkiv> well its not
managed, so you have to care about everything yourself
L301[13:56:39] <Mimiru> For the
record
L302[13:56:41] <ben_mkiv> but 64gb ram, 2x
512gb ssd
L303[13:57:05] <ben_mkiv> nvm, euros
L304[13:57:23] <ben_mkiv> your charset
supports emoticons but not the euro sign? xD
L305[13:57:53] <ben_mkiv> nvm
L306[13:57:56] <ben_mkiv> im not sending
utf8
L307[13:58:07] <Mimiru> Consolas,Arial
Unicode MS,Segoe UI Emoji,Lucida Sans
Unicode,Meiryo,Symbola,Unifont
L308[13:58:11]
<Rph>
34?
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<Rph>
34!
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L312[13:58:33] <ben_mkiv> how about now?
€
L313[13:58:49] <Mimiru> Yes
L314[13:58:52] <Lizzy> yep, that
shows
L315[13:59:02]
<Rph> Now it
works
L316[13:59:27] <Mimiru> I pay $90 a month
for my box
L317[13:59:29] <ben_mkiv> ok, should set
utf8 to global default
L318[13:59:43] <Mimiru> 64GB 4c8t 2x2tb
raid
L319[13:59:44] <ben_mkiv> thats... not so
cheap
L321[14:00:38] <ben_mkiv> you can choose
if you want 2x4tb hdd or 2x512gb ssd
L322[14:01:28] <Mimiru> well, one bonus to
mine is, it's in Canada so I'm not crossing an ocean to get to
it
L323[14:01:56] <ben_mkiv> yea true, that
can make a huge difference depending on time of day
L324[14:02:03] <Lizzy> my server is about
20km away from me
L325[14:02:09] <ben_mkiv> noticed that the
other way around
L327[14:02:43] <ben_mkiv> they arent
thaaaat bad and afaik also in US/Canada
L328[14:03:18] <ben_mkiv> so for small
packs/small playerbase
L329[14:03:50] <ben_mkiv> but you can tell
from the plans how many other server might be hosted on the same
machine xD
L330[14:06:30] <ben_mkiv> did any mod dev
run into the problem that nodes dont reconnect after
worldload?
L331[14:06:42] <ben_mkiv> like, i save the
node, and load it, but the network is null then
L332[14:14:47]
<Zef> I
might play tfc
L333[14:29:18]
<Zef>
Nevermind I never downloaded 1.7.10
L334[14:31:53] <ben_mkiv> tfc?
L335[14:34:51]
<Rph>
%tonk
L336[14:34:52] <MichiBot> Dagnabbit! Rph!
You beat your own previous record of 37 minutes and 37 seconds! I
hope you're happy!
L337[14:34:53] <MichiBot> Rph's new record
is 39 minutes and 23 seconds! 1 minute and 46 seconds gained!
L338[14:46:15]
<Zef>
Terrafirmacraft
L339[14:46:29]
<Zef> But of
course I never fuckin ran 1.7.10 on windows 10 so
L340[14:46:40]
<Zef> Well
it doesn't show up anyways
L341[14:46:50]
<Zef> Even
though I am completely sure I did before
L342[14:48:16]
<Zef> I got
myself really hyped up to play it and then found out I can't
L343[15:01:08] <ben_mkiv> i hat this bug
-.-
L344[15:01:20] <ben_mkiv> it actually
resumes screens if a keyboard is in the same block, but not
without...
L345[15:01:25]
<Rph> tf2
team would like to talk with you about hats
L346[15:16:27]
<Z0idburg>
well now
L347[15:16:55]
<Z0idburg> I
need to find somebody who has ECU / PCM aka Car computer
experience
L348[15:38:11]
<Rph> how
much in one go can I read with handle:read
L349[15:38:17]
<Rph> when
handle was initialised with io.open
L350[15:38:17]
<Rph>
also
L351[15:38:18]
<Rph>
$tonk
L352[15:38:20]
<Rph>
%tonk
L353[15:38:21] <MichiBot> Sard! Rph! You
beat your own previous record of 39 minutes and 23 seconds! I hope
you're happy!
L354[15:38:22] <MichiBot> Rph's new record
is 1 hour, 3 minutes and 29 seconds! 24 minutes and 5 seconds
gained!
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L357[16:10:14]
<Bob> Does
anyone created a Tape fyle system thing yet
L358[16:10:31]
<Bob> i want
to use tapes as music holders and make out a music program
L359[16:11:04]
<Bob> At the
beginning of the tape i'd need an info sheet thing tought tapes are
in binary
L360[16:11:15] <ben_mkiv> cue sheet
L361[16:11:41]
<Bob> time
to port some filesystem to tapes
L362[16:15:17]
<Bob> Does
someone has the tape sizes ?
L363[16:15:25]
<Bob> i just
want to know the 2 min tabe size
L364[16:15:27]
<Bob> in
bits
L365[16:18:34]
<Bob> Are
unmanaged drives sames as the tape , work on bits ?
L366[16:29:49]
<Z0idburg>
the way tapes worked on my color computer
L367[16:29:57]
<Z0idburg>
is that there was a header for each file
L368[16:30:04]
<Z0idburg>
containing its length and the name of the file
L369[16:37:24]
<Bob>
^
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L372[16:38:00]
<Bob> I may
use at the begining or all the headers or their positions
L373[16:38:25]
<Z0idburg>
what?
L374[16:38:26]
<Z0idburg>
elaborate
L375[16:45:33]
<Rph>
%tonk
L376[16:45:36] <MichiBot> Zounderkite!
Rph! You beat your own previous record of 1 hour, 3 minutes and 29
seconds! I hope you're happy!
L377[16:45:37] <MichiBot> Rph's new record
is 1 hour, 7 minutes and 14 seconds! 3 minutes and 45 seconds
gained!
L378[16:45:47]
<Rph>
%tonkout
L379[16:45:47] <MichiBot> Rph has tonked
out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.001 tonk points! Current
score: 0.013
L380[16:46:24]
<Bob> Like
have the begining of the tape for telling all the data files
potions and stuff
L381[16:46:43]
<Bob> tought
using blocks would be more convenient idk how to do it yet
L382[16:46:47]
<Bob> i will
think of something
L383[16:46:57]
<Bob> i need
the 128 minute tape be full of music lol
L384[16:47:53]
<Bob> and
myb files
L385[16:48:00]
<Bob> tought
raids should be the best
L386[16:49:14]
<Bob> I also
would need to make a metadata header for the audio files thingies
themselves
L388[16:59:00]
<Bob> Since
i want to do something that isnt stuck to a single purpose it will
amke me remake basically everything a filesystem has
L389[16:59:14]
<Bob> I was
thinking of a filesystem with a directory file
L390[16:59:20]
<Bob> and
split into blocks
L391[16:59:25]
<Bob> as all
the file systems
L392[16:59:41]
<Bob> and
another with rather chains for storage and no editing
L393[17:00:37]
<Bob> Since
they wont really reequire folders
L394[17:00:53]
<Bob> Are
there mad people that already done that ?
L395[17:01:54]
<Bob> For
folders i will stack directory files
L396[17:01:58]
<Bob> tables
in tables ...
L397[17:02:05]
<Bob>
Everything ends up in tables
L398[17:02:22]
<Z0idburg>
There's a really big problem with using the beginning of teh tape
for positioning
L399[17:02:25]
<Z0idburg> a
very serious problem
L400[17:02:38]
<Z0idburg>
you can't dynamically resize that without a linked list
L401[17:03:14]
<Bob>
:/
L402[17:03:15]
<Z0idburg>
Tapes are more useful for sequential data not random access
L403[17:03:24]
<Bob> As i
was thinking
L404[17:03:24]
<Z0idburg>
such as backups and ROMs
L405[17:03:33]
<Bob> Tought
you can use blocks
L406[17:03:51]
<Bob>
Defragmentation here i come
L407[17:04:00]
<Z0idburg>
DO NOT DEFRAGMENT TAPES
L408[17:04:07]
<Z0idburg>
THAT IS A HORRIFYING IDEA
L409[17:04:08]
<Bob>
:GWqlabsOilUp:
L410[17:04:34]
<Bob> If i
will have multiple files in a tape i still need some kind of
separator
L411[17:04:50]
<Z0idburg>
yes.
L412[17:05:11]
<Bob>
Wrtiting the files at the end :GWpaboaWeSmart: so the directory
file can expand with no problems
L413[17:05:24]
<Z0idburg>
This is good stuff Bob
L414[17:05:28]
<Z0idburg> I
will be supporting tapes in my OS
L415[17:05:30]
<Z0idburg>
for backups
L416[17:05:39]
<Z0idburg>
and updates
L417[17:06:00]
<Trainfan91>
i can't get the card dock to work...
L418[17:06:01]
<Z0idburg>
do you know why?
L419[17:06:12]
<Z0idburg>
because you can just put it in tell it to start and hit play
L420[17:06:17]
<Z0idburg>
and it restores the backup
L421[17:06:20]
<Bob>
yep
L422[17:06:31]
<Bob>
setLocation and such
L423[17:06:36]
<Z0idburg>
heh
L424[17:06:37]
<Bob> also
speed(2) lol
L425[17:06:43]
<Z0idburg>
speed(0.001)
L426[17:06:56]
<Z0idburg>
slower speed means more data
L427[17:06:59]
<Bob> Well i
will see, i dont know why am i even bothering with this at this
time of the day
L428[17:07:07]
<Bob> The
size is still the same
L429[17:07:09]
<Trainfan91>
speed(9001) for the memes
L430[17:07:16]
<Bob> It
cant go above 2
L431[17:07:16]
<Z0idburg>
lol
L432[17:07:22]
<Z0idburg>
we'll see about 5that
L433[17:07:48]
<Z0idburg>
@Wattana Gaming tape defragmentation
L434[17:07:50]
<Bob> wish
slower speeds you can now squish bits between bits
L435[17:07:55]
<Bob>
:GWqlabsOilUp:
L436[17:08:07]
<Z0idburg>
So bob did you know that IRL
L437[17:08:11]
<Trainfan91>
xzybit much
L438[17:08:14]
<Z0idburg> I
have been building a computer from scratch
L439[17:08:27]
<Z0idburg>
I'
L440[17:08:34]
<Z0idburg>
I'm not talking about putting one together
L441[17:08:51]
<Z0idburg>
I'm designing all of its parts that make the CPU and everything and
puttng it together, because well I'm ECE
L442[17:09:00]
<Z0idburg>
so it's not that big of a deal
L443[17:09:18]
<Z0idburg>
anyways, I was wondering how I was going to initally put memory
data into the system for its first program right
L444[17:09:22]
<Z0idburg>
but then I realized
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<Z0idburg> I
haven't used my VCR foir a while and I have some 6 and 8 hour tapes
that haven't even been unwrapped yet
L447[17:09:40]
<Bob> I
don't have that much time and i think starting from OC is
perfect
L448[17:09:54]
<Z0idburg>
so I might just record memory to VCR
L449[17:10:06]
<Z0idburg>
until I finish my nor flash disk design
L450[17:10:24]
<Bob>
anything that can store data can be RAM
L451[17:10:31]
<Bob> tought
slows down everything
L452[17:10:38]
<Z0idburg>
Bob
L453[17:10:48]
<Z0idburg>
make the tape into swap memory
L454[17:10:49]
<Z0idburg>
?
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<Z0idburg>
good
L457[17:12:33]
<Z0idburg>
Roy_Mustang you like mustinks I see
L458[17:12:40]
<Z0idburg>
they must stink because they're mustinks
L459[17:12:46]
<Bob>
@Z0idburg :GWaobaPePeCry: Now we are going to have 3GBs of RAM in
OC PCs
L460[17:12:58]
<Z0idburg>
you don't need that
L461[17:13:05]
<Z0idburg>
this is exactly what my OS takes care of
L462[17:13:22]
<Z0idburg>
My OS uses multiple computers to aggregate RAM
L463[17:13:43]
<Bob>
downloadram.com
L464[17:13:53]
<Bob> just
get an internet card, all problems solved
L465[17:14:05]
<Z0idburg>
files currently use a uri scheme
L466[17:14:18]
<Z0idburg>
namespace[@node]://resource
L467[17:14:28] <A_D> Z0idburg: hmm?
L468[17:14:38]
<Z0idburg>
A_D mustinks
L469[17:14:56] <A_D> I feel like I'm half
asleep and missing a reference
L470[17:15:11]
<Z0idburg>
making fun of mustangs
L471[17:15:27] <A_D> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L472[17:15:33]
<Z0idburg>
lol
L473[17:15:46]
<Bob> Its
pretty late right now yea
L474[17:16:01]
<Bob> but im
too much into thinking about anything really
L475[17:17:13]
<Trainfan91>
how do i add a component via card dock
L476[17:17:24]
<Zef>
Ocdevices?
L477[17:17:29]
<Trainfan91>
yes
L478[17:17:40]
<Z0idburg>
oh yeah I was going to test ocdevices
L479[17:18:03] <ben_mkiv> run
component.carddock.bind() on the machine
L480[17:18:10] <ben_mkiv> where you want
the card to connect to
L481[17:18:32]
<Z0idburg>
why does the card dock components have to be bound?
L482[17:18:33]
<Zef> I was
loading the wiki lol
L483[17:18:41]
<Z0idburg>
that means they're stateful
L484[17:18:54] <ben_mkiv> because if you
have multiple machines on the network they would connect to a
random one otherwise
L485[17:19:04] <ben_mkiv> so i chosed to
not add autoconnect
L486[17:19:15]
<Z0idburg>
hm
L487[17:19:19] <ben_mkiv> oh its actually
component.carddock.bindComponent()
L488[17:19:40]
<Z0idburg>
you know
L489[17:19:46]
<Z0idburg> a
card dock of modems sounds nice
L490[17:19:56]
<Z0idburg>
but I'd want multiple machines to be able to access them at
once
L491[17:20:22]
<Zef> It
sounds like that'd be possible
L492[17:20:34]
<Zef> Just
the machines wouldn't automatically connect to said modem
L493[17:20:36] <ben_mkiv> no, you can only
bind to one machine
L494[17:20:58]
<Zef> Ah
that I didn't know
L495[17:21:07] <ben_mkiv> or you have to
bind before each call and then unbind
L496[17:21:10] <ben_mkiv> that would
work
L497[17:21:29]
<Z0idburg>
see I'd want a rack of modems that, when receiving a message they
just spam modem_message as a broadcast
L498[17:21:58]
<Z0idburg>
though.. hmm
L499[17:22:04]
<Z0idburg>
it'd be better if relays wouldn't relay them
L500[17:22:10]
<Z0idburg>
so that would be a problem
L501[17:22:19]
<Trainfan91>
can i bind 2 of the same card?
L502[17:22:29] <ben_mkiv> with 2 docks,
yes
L503[17:22:38]
<Z0idburg>
this way a cluster of Trotwood nodes would decide whether to ignore
or listen to it
L504[17:22:43] <ben_mkiv> as long as you
dont override the component limit of your machine
L505[17:22:45]
<Z0idburg>
whichever one is free
L506[17:23:12]
<Kodos> I'm
tempted to try and set up a filter for a microcontroller to only
pass through messages that have a valid prefix
L507[17:23:14]
<Z0idburg>
currently the way this works is with broadcasts to a port on a
cluster of nodes and the cluster just talks out of teh ones they
want
L508[17:23:48]
<Z0idburg>
TBH kodos I wish microcontrollers would interact with external
components
L509[17:23:58]
<Z0idburg>
because.. that's kind of reralistic
L510[17:24:03]
<Zef> That'd
be cool if they did
L511[17:24:17]
<Zef> I
tried making an atm with one then realized it didn't connect to the
keypad
L512[17:24:20]
<Z0idburg> I
think microcontrollers should be renamerd to SoC
L513[17:24:25]
<Z0idburg>
or something
L514[17:24:35]
<Z0idburg>
that would be more uh.. believable
L515[17:25:07]
<Z0idburg>
and then microcontrollerds should be able to interact with external
xcomponents but have very limited resources
L516[17:25:36]
<Z0idburg>
like, a few K of flash memory, very little RAM
L517[17:25:52]
<Z0idburg>
very little processing
L518[17:26:15]
<Z0idburg>
But the microcontroller we know of now should be an SOC
L519[17:26:46]
<Z0idburg>
which makes more sense to have no external interaction
L520[17:26:59]
<Z0idburg>
because you have an entire "system on a chip"
L521[17:27:29]
<Rph> I
think microcontrollers should be able to bind one external
component
L522[17:27:40]
<Bob> Some
for sure
L523[17:27:43]
<Z0idburg> I
would go for more than that
L524[17:27:46]
<Z0idburg>
like 3 or 4
L525[17:27:56]
<Rph>
Hmmm
L526[17:27:58]
<Bob> It
wont controll anything if it cant connect to components
L527[17:28:05]
<Z0idburg>
maybe 2
L528[17:28:05]
<Rph>
Yep
L529[17:28:07]
<Z0idburg>
buty not 1
L530[17:28:11]
<Z0idburg> 1
is like worthless
L531[17:28:13]
<Bob> then
it judt becomes an instruction executor sorta
L532[17:28:28]
<Rph> I mean
screen + keyboard
L533[17:28:34]
<Rph> And
you have a vnc client
L534[17:28:48]
<Rph> Or an
ad renderer
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<Z0idburg> I
would like to have remote Trotwood systems that run on
microcontrollers that do simple things
L536[17:29:00]
<Z0idburg>
and then talk back to the big Trotwood core cluster
L537[17:29:05]
<Z0idburg>
you know?
L538[17:29:18]
<Z0idburg>
without having to have an entire normal OC case out there for every
node
L539[17:29:44]
<Rph> You
can't share coroutines tho
L540[17:29:54]
<Rph> How do
you do clustered execution
L541[17:30:03]
<Bob> I
would use microcontrollers to like execute some basic actions like
i got alot of OC lamps for my base and since a computer cant have
infinite component id just spam micro controllers
L542[17:30:04]
<Z0idburg> I
am so happy you asked that Rph!
L543[17:30:08]
<Z0idburg>
nobody has cared all this time
L544[17:30:11]
<Z0idburg>
So!
L545[17:30:20]
<Z0idburg>
Trotwood uses something very special called the actor model.
L546[17:30:36]
<Z0idburg>
not only this, but it even uses this so when you "load" a
program you can send it as a stream to any other node in a
cluster
L547[17:30:39]
<Rph> My mom
always told me I was special
L548[17:30:52]
<Z0idburg>
Have you ever heard of the actor model?
L549[17:30:58]
<Rph> Not
really
L550[17:31:17]
<Z0idburg>
It works like this. Programs are made up of smaller processes
called "actors"
L551[17:31:22]
<Z0idburg>
actors have a mailbox
L552[17:31:30]
<Z0idburg>
so they can send and receive messages
L553[17:31:42]
<Z0idburg>
Actors additionally can spawn more actors.
L554[17:32:09]
<Z0idburg>
in Trotwood, every process is considered to be an actor and each
actor is just a coroutine with a very very simple API
L555[17:32:24]
<Z0idburg>
actors communicate with other actors and the OS by yielding
L556[17:32:28]
<Z0idburg>
coroutine.yield()
L557[17:32:44]
<Rph>
Hmmm
L558[17:32:58]
<Z0idburg>
For clustering multiple computers together, each node has a node ID
nnumber.
L559[17:33:04]
<Rph> I mean
my OS will also have IPC but only on one computer
L560[17:33:09]
<Rph> Not
over the network
L561[17:33:19]
<Z0idburg>
Trotwood uses decimals for processes and all process ID numbers are
less than 0
L562[17:33:43]
<Z0idburg>
the format is that the left of the decimal point is the node ID and
the right is the process Id on that node
L563[17:33:52]
<Z0idburg>
so process 13.401
L564[17:33:57]
<Z0idburg>
is process 401 on node 13
L565[17:34:04]
<Rph>
Hmm
L566[17:34:19]
<Rph> Seems
complex honestly
L567[17:34:21]
<Z0idburg>
If you send an IPC message to a process that is > 0 then the OS
knows you are not talking to a local process.
L568[17:34:26]
<Z0idburg>
it's very simple
L569[17:34:33]
<Rph> I made
a few openos based distributed programs
L570[17:34:36]
<Z0idburg>
because you as the user can name process.
L571[17:34:39]
<Z0idburg>
processes*
L572[17:34:41]
<Rph> I just
had a master and slaves
L573[17:34:52]
<Z0idburg> I
don't like the master slave model
L574[17:35:04]
<Z0idburg>
it makes failure a problem to think about
L575[17:35:08]
<Rph> It
works well enough for stuff like cloud storage
L576[17:35:17]
<Z0idburg>
whereas the Trotwood model, the entire cluster can get half
destroyed
L577[17:35:19]
<Z0idburg>
and it will still run
L578[17:35:26]
<Z0idburg>
in fact
L579[17:35:38]
<Z0idburg>
when there is a problem in my OS you are ENCOURAGED to crash
it
L580[17:35:59]
<Z0idburg>
processes will become reloaded automatically by their supervisors
with new state
L581[17:36:09]
<Rph> How
often does your base get griefed that such failure is so
common
L582[17:36:10]
<Z0idburg>
it's extremely hard to bring down a Trotwood cluster.
L583[17:36:20]
<Zef> Cut
the power
L584[17:36:22]
<Zef>
Done
L585[17:36:31]
<Rph> I have
a mekanism reactor
L586[17:36:31]
<Z0idburg>
it's more about bugs in your programs than griefing Rph
L587[17:36:48]
<Zef> Cut
your water supply then
L588[17:36:48]
<Rph>
Hmmm
L589[17:37:01]
<Rph> There
is battery backup for 10 days
L590[17:37:20]
<Z0idburg>
At somepoint I highly recommend you taking a look into Elixir or
Erlang
L591[17:37:25]
<Z0idburg>
and you will see the magic
L592[17:37:34]
<Z0idburg>
the magic of writing programs that can't actually die
L593[17:37:39]
<Rph> I
thought about making a distributed network system
L594[17:37:48]
<Rph> Not a
clustered os
L595[17:37:50]
<Rph> But
like
L596[17:37:58]
<Rph>
Wireless cards have range issues
L597[17:38:17]
<Rph> And my
thing would allow any network nodes to act as repeaters
L598[17:38:23]
<Rph> And
routers
L599[17:38:37]
<Rph> So you
get everyone to install the network daemon on their OS
L600[17:38:39]
<Z0idburg> I
prefer wired networks
L601[17:38:42]
<Z0idburg>
wireless is a mess
L602[17:38:47]
<Rph> And
now you can send messages across the map
L603[17:38:56]
<Rph> I
mostly use internet in my projects
L604[17:39:03]
<Rph> Thats
kinda cheating i know
L605[17:39:13]
<Rph> But
allows me to break the limits of OC
L606[17:39:27]
<Zef> At one
point I had made a router using a microcontroller then had those go
through a wired connection to a central network
L607[17:39:28]
<Z0idburg>
that's not cheating at all
L608[17:39:34]
<Z0idburg>
that's how Trotwood works
L609[17:39:39]
<Z0idburg>
if a node is too far it will relay
L610[17:39:48]
<Rph> Over
internet?
L611[17:39:52]
<Z0idburg>
That too
L612[17:40:00]
<Z0idburg>
it will support Internet trunking
L613[17:40:16]
<Rph> I mean
my OS is going to have a heavy dependency on the internet
L614[17:40:31]
<Zef> Oo boy
guess what os I'll never touch
L615[17:40:34]
<Rph> Most
system apps will request some internet resources
L616[17:40:41]
<Z0idburg>
Zef: Trotwood?
L617[17:40:43]
<Rph> I'm
aiming for an android like experience
L618[17:40:58]
<Zef> Rph's
cause I don't got internet
L619[17:41:02]
<Rph> I
think zef meant my unnamed OS
L620[17:41:03]
<Z0idburg>
lol
L621[17:41:13]
<Zef>
Supposedly getting it back next week
L622[17:41:21]
<Z0idburg>
Just make sure it runs on tablets
L623[17:41:24]
<Zef> But
that's what I was told A FUCKING MONTH AGO
L624[17:41:32]
<Rph> It
will run on tablets
L625[17:41:35]
<Bob>
Welcome to internet providers
L626[17:41:50]
<Z0idburg>
Zef: do you have home phone service?
L627[17:41:54]
<Zef>
Nope
L628[17:42:11]
<Rph> Can't
you use tethering from whatever device you are using to talk with
us
L629[17:42:18]
<Z0idburg> I
was going to say, there are free dialup Internet prioviders
L630[17:42:41]
<Zef> If I
had home phone it'd be off too
L631[17:42:42]
<Zef> Cause
Comcast
L632[17:42:57]
<Zef> And my
phone connection is slow as fuck
L633[17:42:59]
<Rph> Lol
US
L634[17:43:06]
<Zef> And
gets slower the more I use it
L635[17:43:13]
<Rph>
Ouch
L636[17:43:15]
<Z0idburg>
like I said
L637[17:43:20]
<Z0idburg>
if you had a few phone lines
L638[17:43:31]
<Zef> If I
had phone lines they'd be shut off
L639[17:43:32]
<Z0idburg>
you can bond multiple dialup modems together
L640[17:43:33]
<Z0idburg>
?
L641[17:43:38]
<Zef>
Because comcast is the only provider
L642[17:43:42]
<Zef> It's
Comcast
L643[17:43:43]
<Z0idburg>
aggregate dialup
L644[17:43:43]
<Rph> The
internet provider in my area only has ADSL but that shit is cheap
af
L645[17:43:52]
<Rph> I have
2 ADSL lines to my house
L646[17:43:58]
<Rph> An
unlimited 4G modem
L647[17:44:04]
<Kodos>
%tonk
L648[17:44:04] <MichiBot> Consarn it!
Kodos! You beat Rph's previous record of <0! I hope you're
happy!
L649[17:44:05]
<Rph> And a
wireless internet thing
L650[17:44:05] <MichiBot> Kodos's new
record is 58 minutes and 16 seconds! 58 minutes and 16 seconds
gained!
L651[17:44:13]
<Z0idburg>
you do realize
L652[17:44:15]
<Rph> 4
lines
L653[17:44:20]
<Z0idburg>
an ADSL line is actually a POTS line right?
L654[17:44:25]
<Rph> I
know
L655[17:44:34]
<Z0idburg>
but you probably only have a soft dialtone
L656[17:44:36]
<Z0idburg>
if at all
L657[17:44:41]
<Rph>
Idk
L658[17:44:49]
<Rph> I know
I have 2 phone numbers
L659[17:44:57]
<Rph>
Included with the ADSL
L660[17:45:00]
<Z0idburg>
soft dialtone is required by federal law in some parts of the
us
L661[17:45:06]
<Z0idburg>
it means you can dial 911
L662[17:45:07]
<Z0idburg>
bout it
L663[17:45:09]
<Rph> I'm
not in the US
L664[17:45:16]
<Z0idburg>
aha
L665[17:45:25]
<Rph> And
the phone service is completely disabled
L666[17:45:40]
<Z0idburg> I
have a POTS with dialtone and 100Mbit cable
L667[17:45:43]
<Rph>
Calling those numbers plays back a "number does not
exist" message
L668[17:45:56]
<Rph> And
causes the provider end to hang up
L669[17:45:57]
<Z0idburg> I
use my POTS line for phone calls and I also have a dialup modem on
it
L670[17:46:10]
<Rph>
Hmm
L671[17:46:21]
<Z0idburg>
it could just be an agreement number rph
L672[17:46:28]
<Rph> It
could be
L673[17:46:46]
<Z0idburg>
at work we use agreement numbers in a form that is not a valid
phone #
L674[17:46:50]
<Z0idburg>
for DSL
L675[17:46:55]
<Z0idburg>
and non phone services
L676[17:46:56]
<Rph> IIRC
it says that you can pay for the number and then you can call and
get calls
L677[17:47:01]
<Z0idburg>
we encode them
L678[17:47:05]
<Rph>
Otherwise its a non existent number
L679[17:47:36]
<Z0idburg>
ok So its probably a station # then
L680[17:47:40]
<Z0idburg>
just reserved
L681[17:47:54]
<Rph> I'm
simply not in need of a pots number
L682[17:48:00]
<Rph> Cell
phones serve me well
L683[17:48:10]
<Z0idburg>
pots is so much better ?
L684[17:48:14]
<Rph>
Why
L685[17:48:36]
<Z0idburg>
so, I was explaining this to somebody a few weeks ago for some
reason
L686[17:48:48]
<Z0idburg>
but the thing is, a cell phone and a pots line are not the
same
L687[17:49:00]
<Z0idburg>
you can't actually REALLY really say one is better or worse
but
L688[17:49:10]
<Z0idburg>
here's the difference
L689[17:49:19]
<Z0idburg> a
cell phone is bound to you
L690[17:49:23]
<Z0idburg>
it identifies you
L691[17:49:57]
<Rph> Not
really
L692[17:50:03]
<Z0idburg> a
pots line on the other hand identifies your household instead. It
identifies your prem, you, and the people you live with.
L693[17:50:41]
<Rph> Until
last year you could just buy a SIM card from some pre paid plan and
use it
L694[17:50:47]
<Rph> Now
they require registration
L695[17:50:56]
<Rph> But
they didn't use to
L696[17:51:07]
<Z0idburg>
here in the US you can still get SIMs
L697[17:51:14]
<Z0idburg>
that aren't registered
L698[17:51:16]
<Rph>
Exactly
L699[17:51:19]
<Z0idburg>
you have to look for them
L700[17:51:22]
<Rph> So
it's anonymous
L701[17:51:35]
<Z0idburg> I
bet you can get them too, buty you may have to get one from an
underground market to get it to work
L702[17:52:00]
<Rph> I
bought 10 and paid a homeless guy to register them
L703[17:52:09]
<Rph> On
himself
L704[17:52:14]
<Z0idburg>
lol
L705[17:52:23]
<Z0idburg>
you can probably find them registered to bogus locations
L706[17:52:30]
<Rph> Well
perhaps
L707[17:52:36]
<Rph> Anyway
I need to sleep now
L708[17:52:42]
<Rph> Its 1
AM
L709[17:52:45]
<Z0idburg>
lol
L710[17:52:52]
<Rph>
Bye
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L712[17:53:38]
<Z0idburg>
so Bob
L713[17:55:10]
<Zef> So I
installed linux lite on this laptop
L714[17:55:45]
<Zef> And it
shows me the factory charge of the battery and the actual charge of
the battery
L715[17:55:58]
<Z0idburg>
and it's way off
L716[17:55:59]
<Z0idburg>
?
L717[17:56:00]
<Z0idburg>
?
L718[17:56:30]
<Zef> Fully
charged (design) 57.7 Wh
L719[17:56:30]
<Zef> Fully
charged 45.9 Wh (79%)
L720[17:57:39]
<Z0idburg>
uh
L721[17:57:45]
<Z0idburg>
Wh or kWh
L722[17:57:52]
<Zef> Just
says Wh
L723[17:58:00]
<Z0idburg>
that's REALLY BAD
L724[17:58:15]
<Zef> 2 and
a half hours estimated battery life
L725[17:58:18]
<Z0idburg>
60 Wh is pretty horrible
L726[17:58:27]
<Zef> It's
like a 7 year old laptop
L727[17:58:33]
<Z0idburg>
most laptops use liek 60 Watts
L728[17:58:40]
<Z0idburg>
max
L729[17:58:44]
<Z0idburg>
so if you divided it..
L730[17:58:49]
<Z0idburg>
yyeah ok 60Wh not too bad
L731[17:58:58]
<Z0idburg>
you're never using maximum
L732[17:59:08]
<Z0idburg>
how many volts is it?
L733[17:59:12]
<Z0idburg>
20?
L734[17:59:21]
<Zef>
11.8
L735[17:59:24]
<Z0idburg>
ok
L736[17:59:25]
<Z0idburg>
so
L737[17:59:30]
<Z0idburg>
lets say you consumed 2 A
L738[17:59:38]
<Zef> So the
2 and a half hours sound good
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<Z0idburg>
22 watts, 60 / 20 = 3, that's about 3hours of life
L741[17:59:51]
<Z0idburg>
foe 60Wh on full
L742[18:00:03]
<Z0idburg>
on 2A average
L743[18:00:14]
<Zef> So it
makes sense
L744[18:09:59]
<Zef>
Lol
L745[18:10:15]
<Zef> I
tried shutting down from the login menu and it's stuck on the
splash screen now
L746[18:10:33]
<Zef> There
we go took a few minutes
L747[18:13:32] <Lizzy> %tonk
L748[18:13:33] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Lizzy,
you were not able to beat Kodos's record of 58 minutes and 16
seconds this time.
L749[18:13:34] <MichiBot> 29 minutes and
28 seconds were wasted! Missed by 28 minutes and 48 seconds!
L750[18:13:47] <Lizzy> oh
L751[18:13:50] <Lizzy> i'm bad at
math
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L756[19:34:57] <AmandaC> %tonk
L757[19:34:57] <MichiBot> Waesucks!
AmandaC! You beat Kodos's previous record of 58 minutes and 16
seconds! I hope you're happy!
L758[19:34:58] <MichiBot> AmandaC's new
record is 1 hour, 21 minutes and 24 seconds! 23 minutes and 7
seconds gained!
L759[19:35:02] <AmandaC> %tonkout
L760[19:35:03] <MichiBot> AmandaC has
tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.001 tonk points!
Current score: 0.006
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<Zef>
%tonk
L766[21:18:02] <MichiBot> Dagnabbit! Zef!
You beat AmandaC's previous record of <0! I hope you're
happy!
L767[21:18:03] <MichiBot> Zef's new record
is 1 hour, 42 minutes and 59 seconds! 1 hour, 42 minutes and 59
seconds gained!
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L769[21:40:51]
<Wattana
Gaming> Did someone ping me?
L771[21:45:18]
<Wattana
Gaming> whats tape defragmentation?
L772[21:45:31]
<Zef> Don't
know why he tagged you
L773[21:45:36]
<Zef> But
that's where you were tagged
L774[21:48:31] <Izaya> >tagged
L775[21:48:33] <Izaya> that's a new
one
L776[21:48:45] <CompanionCube> it's a
discord thing
L777[21:48:48] <CompanionCube> trust
me
L778[21:49:13] <Izaya> oh, more
intentionally using wrong terminology
L779[21:49:16] <Izaya> carry on
L780[21:53:15]
<Zef> Oh
*sorry* that that's what I call it
L781[21:53:42]
<Zef>
Because that's what I've seen it referred to since I started using
discord
L782[21:55:30]
<Zef> You're
not superior because you use a 20 year old communication
standard
L783[22:01:11] <Izaya> why are you
sorry
L784[22:01:15] <Izaya> you're not the one
miseducating
L786[22:09:10] <CompanionCube> hey
L787[22:09:16] <CompanionCube> isn't HTTP
from the '90s?
L788[22:09:34] <CompanionCube> good chance
it's passed the 20-year-mark itself.
L789[22:10:29]
<Zef> If a
site nowadays uses pure http it's probably not a good site
L790[22:10:53] <CompanionCube> didn't know
google wasn't a good site
L791[22:11:31]
<Zef> Did
you know https exists?
L792[22:12:08] <CompanionCube> the
protocol you actually speak is HTTP
L793[22:12:12]
<Z0idburg>
testing
L795[22:12:15] <CompanionCube> the TLS
transport is transparent.
L796[22:12:39]
<Zef> It's
still not original http
L797[22:12:51] <CompanionCube> technically
you're right
L798[22:12:56] <CompanionCube> HTTP/1.1
does have minor changes.
L799[22:18:31] <CompanionCube> 1.1 dates
from 97, but development goes back to '89.
L800[22:18:44] <CompanionCube> Guess I'm
right then according to wikipedia.
L801[22:20:12]
<Z0idburg> I
think I got it.
L803[22:20:25]
<Z0idburg> I
used Lua to generate that ?
L804[22:20:34]
<Z0idburg>
\so maybe I can use it to generate error messages, etc on my
OS
L805[22:20:44]
<Z0idburg>
or perhaps version information
L806[22:21:17]
<Zef> Looks
like crap on mobile
L807[22:21:28]
<Z0idburg>
Perhaps
L808[22:21:38]
<Z0idburg>
it's a QR code
L809[22:21:38] <Izaya> S3: got a lib
somewhere for that? :D
L810[22:21:50]
<Z0idburg>
yes I found one
L811[22:21:55]
<Z0idburg>
ill send you the github
L813[22:22:15]
<Z0idburg>
it's pretty nice
L814[22:22:26] <Izaya> ooooo
L815[22:22:33]
<Z0idburg> I
don't know what I should use it for
L816[22:22:42]
<Z0idburg>
besides maybe a version printout on OC
L817[22:23:07]
<Z0idburg>
it returns a multi dimension table array
L818[22:23:13]
<Z0idburg>
of rows and columns
L819[22:24:12] <Izaya> Haiku can show
kernel panics and stack traces as QR code
L820[22:24:31]
<Z0idburg>
Yeah Windows shows error codes on blue screen now in QR
L821[22:24:38]
<Z0idburg>
the problem is Trotwood doesn't really crash..
L822[22:24:44]
<Z0idburg>
so there's no sense in using that
L823[22:25:00]
<Zef> Could
make it display it's process id
L824[22:25:07]
<Z0idburg>
?
L825[22:25:28]
<Zef> Didn't
you say things in trotwood work based off process ids?
L826[22:25:36]
<Z0idburg>
well yeah
L827[22:25:43]
<Z0idburg>
but how would that benefit you
L828[22:25:50]
<Zef> I
don't know lol
L829[22:26:09]
<Z0idburg>
thing is process IDs, they'r ejust numbers
L830[22:26:31]
<Z0idburg>
if you need to keep track of a specific process and you don't want
to pass it around, you name the process instesd.
L831[22:26:34]
<Z0idburg>
stead*
L832[22:28:32]
<Z0idburg>
processes already have PIDs in other OSes such as Linux
L833[22:28:57]
<Z0idburg>
the thing that makes trotwood so special is that they contain more
than just the id of the process itself in a pid
L834[22:30:49]
<Z0idburg>
most PIDs you interact with will be under 1
L835[22:31:02]
<Z0idburg>
and that's because node 0 is always the current node
L836[22:54:03]
<Kleadron>
god have mercy
L838[23:05:04] <Izaya> Not sure how useful
being able to write DX software on Linux is but I guess it could
encourage developers
L839[23:31:41] <AmandaC> %8ball be more
bad?
L840[23:31:41] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Ask
again later
L841[23:31:46] <AmandaC> Fuck you
L842[23:35:58] ⇦
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L843[23:55:24] <payonel> .
L844[23:55:34] <payonel> %tonk
L845[23:55:35] <MichiBot> Fudge! payonel!
You beat Zef's previous record of 1 hour, 42 minutes and 59
seconds! I hope you're happy!
L846[23:55:36] <MichiBot> payonel's new
record is 2 hours, 37 minutes and 32 seconds! 54 minutes and 33
seconds gained!
L847[23:55:55] <payonel> %tonkout
L848[23:55:55] <MichiBot> payonel has
tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.002 tonk points!
plus 0.002 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score:
0.014
L850[23:55:59] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Inari
will be notified of this message when next seen.
L851[23:56:07] <AmandaC> payonel: ^
L852[23:56:12] <payonel> i like
L853[23:57:27] <AmandaC> Right, guess I'll
sleep now. Night nerds