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L16[01:33:49] <payonel> @"Z0idburg" where do you want #include <algorithm> ?
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L19[02:15:32] <Izaya> asie: do you know what valid options there are for Buildcraft's S:chunkLoadLevel option?
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L21[02:23:07] <Izaya> [19:22:55] [Server thread/WARN] [opencomputers]: Error handling file saving: Did the server never start?
L22[02:23:21] <Izaya> payonel: is this related to that OpenJDK bug?
L23[02:23:36] <Izaya> well, OpenJDK-related bug, I guess
L24[02:24:57] <Mimiru> I get that on my windows box with OracleJDK
L25[02:25:03] <Izaya> writing to disks and floppies works fine but persistence is a little wack
L26[02:32:09] <Izaya> turned off bufferChanges and the neither that nor the "Did the server start?" error are appearing
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L29[02:35:19] <Izaya> oh and in restarting the server, it's no longer using 10GB of virtual memory
L30[02:35:22] <Izaya> only 9
L31[02:35:24] <Izaya> how nice
L32[02:36:10] <Izaya> S3: hopefully persistence for OC computers will be more reliable now
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L34[02:37:29] <Izaya> okay, bufferChanges: ehhhhh
L35[02:37:40] <Izaya> ima leave that off I think
L36[02:46:43] <Izaya> Okay persistence is still wonk
L37[02:46:56] <Izaya> Not running latest though so \o/
L38[03:08:35] <Forecaster> %tonk
L39[03:08:36] <MichiBot> Heckgosh! Forecaster! You beat Zef's previous record of 13 minutes and 34 seconds! I hope you're happy!
L40[03:08:37] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 3 hours, 57 minutes and 24 seconds! 3 hours, 43 minutes and 49 seconds gained!
L41[03:23:24] <asie> Izaya: for 1.10+? no
L42[03:24:01] <Izaya> all good
L43[03:30:41] <Izaya> aight all good
L44[03:30:44] <Izaya> wait I said that
L45[03:34:23] <Forecaster> double positive negates! panic!
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L58[06:20:31] <Vazde> Hi. Is there a way to read NBT the tag information when reading items from an AE2 network when using getItemsInNetwork (or something similiar)? So far I've been able to see that an item has hasTag set to true.
L59[06:21:13] <ben_mkiv> no you cant
L60[06:22:05] <Vazde> Oh :/
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L63[07:00:13] <Inari> %inv add an immodest test of strength
L64[07:00:14] * MichiBot summons 'an immodest test of strength' and adds to her inventory. This seems rather fragile...
L65[07:12:04] <Forecaster> %potion
L66[07:12:04] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You get a fluffy sky potion
L67[07:12:08] <Forecaster> %drink ^
L68[07:12:08] <MichiBot> Forecaster's nail turns to the color of yellow.
L69[07:12:46] <Inari> %potion
L70[07:12:46] <MichiBot> Inari: You get a thick strawberry potion
L71[07:12:48] <Inari> %drink ^
L72[07:12:48] <MichiBot> Inari temporarily gains the ability to summon safety pins.
L73[07:13:07] * Inari gives AmandaC a sinister grin as the summons safety pins
L74[07:13:48] <Inari> *she
L75[07:14:04] <Forecaster> *thee
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L78[07:39:15] <Z0idburg> Turns out Lua patterns are missing something really trivial
L79[07:39:31] <Z0idburg> so I have decided just to use string.find and manually split
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L82[07:50:43] <Z0idburg> %tell payonel ocvm inet_http.cpp in drivers is missing #include <algorithm> needed for std::search. Is this OS dependant? if so, I can add a preprocessing directive for it. Otherwise, it will not compile on my Debian test shell.
L83[07:50:44] <MichiBot> Z0idburg: payonel will be notified of this message when next seen.
L84[07:53:19] <Z0idburg> @Wattana Gaming Do you use ocvm, by the way?
L85[07:53:50] <Z0idburg> I use it quite a bit when I'm doing OS dev stuffs on OC
L86[08:16:52] * AmandaC stirs awake, wonders why the blankets won't let her out
L87[08:19:30] <Z0idburg> Untested, but something like this should do the trick
L88[08:19:34] <Z0idburg> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/ogovaxiboc
L89[08:20:25] <Z0idburg> should split foo\rbar\n into "foo", "\r", "bar", "\n"
L90[08:20:33] <Z0idburg> and return a table
L91[08:21:03] <Z0idburg> time to test ?
L92[08:30:12] * AmandaC claws her way to freedom, shredding a hole in Inari's sheets
L93[08:32:04] <Z0idburg> You know when my other half stays in bed
L94[08:32:52] <Z0idburg> and tells me they can't get out thats when I've learned you need to grab the blankets and wave them until she gets cold
L95[08:33:07] <Z0idburg> rip them right off the bed and wake her up
L96[08:33:11] <Z0idburg> ]
L97[08:33:28] <Z0idburg> the spatula hitting pans is not as effective
L98[08:40:38] <Z0idburg> fixed the syntax errors an it works!
L99[08:57:08] <AmandaC> That's rather rude, sophia
L100[09:00:22] <Z0idburg> when the suns up theres stuff to do
L101[09:28:46] <Zef> %tonk
L102[09:28:47] <MichiBot> Aw jeez! Zef! You beat Forecaster's previous record of 3 hours, 57 minutes and 24 seconds! I hope you're happy!
L103[09:28:48] <MichiBot> Zef's new record is 6 hours, 20 minutes and 11 seconds! 2 hours, 22 minutes and 46 seconds gained!
L104[09:41:23] <Teek> Can someone teach me?
L105[09:41:28] <Zef> Specify
L106[09:42:03] <Too Many Programming Languages> I'm confused what oc uses
L107[09:42:16] <ben_mkiv> Lua
L108[09:42:28] <Too Many Programming Languages> As a base?
L109[09:42:46] <ben_mkiv> ingame for writing scripts on computers
L110[09:42:55] <ben_mkiv> opencomputers mod is written in scala
L111[09:43:04] <Zef> Also refer to the channel rules for your nickname
L112[09:43:11] <Zef> I think that's too long
L113[09:44:25] <Zef> Lua is the base and it does expand on jt
L114[09:44:34] <Zef> %wiki
L115[09:44:35] <MichiBot> Zef: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiki - *Wiki - Wikipedia*: "A wiki is a website on which users collaboratively modify content and structure directly from the web browser. In a typical wiki, text is written using a simplified ..."
L116[09:44:43] <Zef> Nope lol
L117[09:45:06] <13Libraries> I'm gonna die
L118[09:45:21] <13Libraries> Ever since I've stopped programming
L119[09:45:58] <13Libraries> 13 languages or more have merged
L120[09:46:12] <AmandaC> k...?
L121[09:46:29] <13 Libraries?> It hurtss
L122[09:46:41] <Inari> have merged?
L123[09:46:59] <Forecaster> don't look directly at it without safety equipment
L124[09:47:45] <13 Libraries?> Basically I can start off in C++ and have java, python and stuff mixed in it
L125[09:48:06] <Inari> ?
L126[09:48:07] <13 Libraries?> My teacher was like. TF you doing
L127[09:48:37] <Inari> I mean, you can do that if you're really into interop, or microservices :P
L128[09:48:51] <13 Libraries?> Sighs
L129[09:49:32] <13 Libraries?> It's too many. And it's all crossing to the point I feel like completely erasing my memory
L130[09:49:50] <Inari> So, don't do it?
L131[09:49:54] <13 Libraries?> Can someone teach me OC from scratch?
L132[09:51:18] <13 Libraries?> Oh. Forecaster is in mindustry
L133[09:52:19] <Forecaster> I'm in a lot of places
L134[09:52:43] <Inari> At once?!
L135[09:54:23] <13 Libraries?> Hm
L136[09:54:28] <13 Libraries?> High places
L137[09:54:59] <Z0idburg> 13 Libraries, you put a computer together, stick an openos floppy disk or something in it, you're good to start!
L138[09:55:10] <13 Grimores> Already did
L139[09:55:20] <13 Grimores> I meant system wise
L140[09:55:52] <13 Grimores> Also how do I use the other stuff like servers and webs and micro cons
L141[09:57:21] <Z0idburg> well the system is written in Lua by defaults
L142[09:57:26] <Z0idburg> default*
L143[09:57:44] <Z0idburg> so you'll want to learn Lua, fortunately it's a very simple language
L144[09:58:03] <Inari> And a very annoying one
L145[09:58:15] <Z0idburg> Lol
L146[09:58:39] <Z0idburg> Sometimes its simplicity means it lacks things it should have..
L147[09:59:20] <Inari> Lets just use the simplest of all
L148[09:59:21] <Inari> SUBLEQ
L149[09:59:22] <Z0idburg> Anyways, to interact with your minecraft world you will be working with components
L150[09:59:37] <Z0idburg> components are the device model of the open computers world interaction with Minecraft
L151[09:59:58] <Z0idburg> they are similar to peripherals in Computer Craft
L152[10:00:30] <Z0idburg> additionally, components can fire events that you can receive and work with.
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L154[10:56:14] <Z0idburg> gtty is coming along. I wonder how big it is minified
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L156[10:57:01] <Z0idburg> so far 522 bytes
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L158[11:17:13] <Lizzy> %tonk
L159[11:17:14] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Lizzy, you were not able to beat Zef's record of 6 hours, 20 minutes and 11 seconds this time.
L160[11:17:15] <MichiBot> 1 hour, 48 minutes and 27 seconds were wasted! Missed by 4 hours, 31 minutes and 43 seconds!
L161[11:17:56] <Lizzy> bugger
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L169[11:47:52] <Kleadron> debugger
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L172[11:49:26] <Forecaster> you're a debugger! D:<
L173[11:52:41] <Zef> I debug as hard as I tonk ;)
L174[11:58:37] <Kleadron> %tonk
L175[11:58:38] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Kleadron, you were not able to beat Zef's record of 6 hours, 20 minutes and 11 seconds this time.
L176[11:58:39] <MichiBot> 41 minutes and 23 seconds were wasted! Missed by 5 hours, 38 minutes and 47 seconds!
L177[11:58:55] <Kleadron> debugger
L178[11:59:44] <Forecaster> you use exploits to debug then
L179[12:18:17] <Zef> Does anyone here have any idea of how to fix shaders?
L180[12:19:05] <Zef> For some reason night time is as bright as the day
L181[12:49:10] <Zef> Nevermind
L182[12:49:18] <Zef> Mod incompatibilities
L183[12:49:36] <Zef> The sun was literally following my cursor
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L187[13:24:07] <Zef> Dude the rtg generator seems cool lol
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L192[13:47:25] <Izaya> Realistic Terrain Gen?
L193[13:54:55] <Inari> How did a mod compatibility make the sun follow your cursor
L194[13:57:27] <13 Grimores> %tonk
L195[13:57:48] <13 Grimores> What's IRC
L196[13:57:49] <Mimiru> it doesn't like spaces in names.
L197[13:58:07] <Mimiru> IRC is IRC, it's the OG chat system
L198[13:58:13] <Mimiru> %g IRC
L199[13:58:14] <MichiBot> Mimiru: https://www.rescue.org/ - *International Rescue Committee (IRC)*: "The International Rescue Committee (IRC) responds to the world's worst humanitarian crises and helps people to survive and rebuild their lives. Find out how ..."
L200[13:58:17] <Mimiru> wat
L201[13:58:18] <Mimiru> no
L202[13:58:22] <Mimiru> %g Internet Relay Chat
L203[13:58:23] <MichiBot> Mimiru: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat - *Internet Relay Chat - Wikipedia*: "Internet Relay Chat (IRC) is an application layer protocol that facilitates communication in the form of text. The chat process works on a client/server networking ..."
L204[13:58:48] <13 Grimores> I mean where's the other end
L205[13:59:43] <Izaya> ircs://irc.esper.net:6697/oc
L206[14:07:33] <Inari> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/309529094452936705/544214520432820245/51665026_2378835809016605_8579569259661754368_n.jpg
L207[14:22:28] <Forecaster> https://www.marvel.com/captainmarvel
L208[14:25:13] <13 Grimores> HRNNNGHGHGHHHHHHGHHH
L209[14:26:08] <Izaya> so what's the recommended ship mod nowadays?
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L211[14:38:48] <Zef> https://wiki.industrial-craft.net/index.php?title=Radioisotope_Thermoelectric_Generator
L212[14:38:52] <Zef> This RTG
L213[14:39:17] <Zef> It was astral sourcery
L214[14:39:59] <Izaya> oh okay
L215[14:40:07] <Izaya> those are nice in KSP for small probes
L216[15:07:13] <Z0idburg> Hi
L217[15:07:36] <Z0idburg> Izaya:
L218[15:07:36] <Z0idburg> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/kudebubahu
L219[15:07:39] <Z0idburg> works like magic ?
L220[15:24:56] <Count Orlok> hey guys, it seems that the compass directions in the sides API don't actually equate to their in game equivalent, but instead are relative to the computer case
L221[15:25:02] <Count Orlok> is this intentional?
L222[15:25:44] <Mimiru> yes
L223[15:25:54] <Izaya> S3: is this for the ANSI terminal?
L224[15:26:14] <Izaya> in-game compass points towards spawn, unless you mean the F3 directions
L225[15:26:28] <Count Orlok> yeah I meant F3 directions
L226[15:26:53] <Count Orlok> I kinda misunderstood it and thought that the directions were absolute when using compass directions
L227[15:26:55] <Count Orlok> ah well
L228[15:42:28] <Wuerfel_21> https://www.latlmes.com/tech/discord-is-shutting-down-as-of-25th-february-2019-after-investors-cash-out-loss-1
L229[15:43:04] <Bob> Yea i know that :GWsabianGKUser:
L230[15:44:23] <Izaya> hm
L231[15:44:30] <Izaya> wonder where that originally came from
L232[15:44:45] <Izaya> I assume the whole site does something similar
L233[15:50:44] <Kodos> Wuerfel, you know that's not the actual LA Times site, right?
L234[15:51:00] <Kodos> That's an L in times
L235[15:51:22] <Lizzian> it's a rickrole
L236[15:51:23] <Lizzian> it's a rickrol [Edited]
L237[15:51:25] <Lizzian> it's a rickroll [Edited]
L238[15:51:33] <Kodos> Still, anyone who's not blind would catch that right off
L239[15:51:42] <Izaya> ^
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L241[16:18:37] <Wattana Gaming> Just wrote a ~~tutorial~~ guide on how to make a working OS: https://www.reddit.com/r/feedthebeast/comments/ap947n/what_do_you_need_to_make_a_working_operating/
L242[16:21:31] <Kodos> Consider doing a more in-depth version of that on our forums, Watanna
L243[16:23:12] <Wattana Gaming> I dunno im lazy
L244[16:23:28] <Wattana Gaming> ~~pls dont kill me for that~~
L245[16:23:45] <Kodos> Have you.. have you met me? I'm the laziest of them all
L246[16:23:54] <Wattana Gaming> oh lol
L247[16:24:09] <Izaya> kodos, widely known as the laziest
L248[16:25:06] <Wattana Gaming> *\:thinking\: intensifies* http://tinyurl.com/y2oyll8k
L249[16:27:43] <Kodos> MFW I'm watching a stream and randomly see Minalien in chat
L250[16:30:12] <Wattana Gaming> what stream?
L251[16:32:22] <AmandaC> %choose now or later
L252[16:32:22] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Why not both?
L253[16:32:26] <Izaya> best way to enjoy Minecraft is with the Age of Empires soundtrack in the background
L254[16:32:32] <AmandaC> That's not how time works, MichiBot
L255[16:32:41] <AmandaC> meh
L256[16:32:44] * AmandaC wanders off
L257[16:35:22] <Wattana Gaming> *How large is inf(inite) in Lua?*
L258[16:37:57] <asie> infinitely large
L259[16:48:49] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L260[16:48:50] <MichiBot> I'm sorry CompanionCube, you were not able to beat Zef's record of 6 hours, 20 minutes and 11 seconds this time.
L261[16:48:54] <MichiBot> 4 hours, 50 minutes and 12 seconds were wasted! Missed by 1 hour, 29 minutes and 58 seconds!
L262[16:48:57] <CompanionCube> dammit
L263[16:50:13] <asie> %tonk
L264[16:50:13] <MichiBot> I'm sorry asie, you were not able to beat Zef's record of 6 hours, 20 minutes and 11 seconds this time.
L265[16:50:14] <MichiBot> 1 minute and 22 seconds were wasted! Missed by 6 hours, 18 minutes and 48 seconds!
L266[16:50:21] <asie> crash bot please
L267[16:50:22] <Wattana Gaming> Apparently, *it is not* http://tinyurl.com/yyg9jbgp
L268[16:50:30] <asie> No
L269[16:50:33] <asie> Infinity is infinitely large
L270[16:50:35] <asie> that much is true
L271[16:50:47] <asie> It's just that the range of values you can store which are finite is not infinite
L272[16:51:14] <Wattana Gaming> *\:thinking\: intensifies*
L273[17:00:28] <AmandaC> asie: I think the crashing has stopped since Mimiru & I got it using prepared statements
L274[17:00:37] <AmandaC> At least, I've not noticed it
L275[17:00:48] <AmandaC> ( I submitted a broken version, which she fixed up <3 )
L276[17:01:19] <asie> :|
L277[17:01:21] <asie> %tonk
L278[17:01:22] <MichiBot> I'm sorry asie, you were not able to beat Zef's record of 6 hours, 20 minutes and 11 seconds this time.
L279[17:01:23] <MichiBot> 11 minutes and 8 seconds were wasted! Missed by 6 hours, 9 minutes and 2 seconds!
L280[17:01:46] <Wattana Gaming> Ok now *I regret asking this in the forum*. Why did some Linux users seems to have anime fetishes http://tinyurl.com/y6omylnw
L281[17:02:05] <Izaya> ask a bait question, get a bait answer
L282[17:02:07] <AmandaC> Same reason some windows users, some mac users, etc do
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L284[17:03:04] <AmandaC> I never bother changing my background on my laptop, since it'll be covered by windows 100% anyway
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L286[17:04:16] <Bob> I usually try to get high contrast
L287[17:04:26] <Bob> Either a full black or white background
L288[17:04:58] <Bob> Since I'm using wallpaper engine, i set my wallpaper to be cubictime.ru
L289[17:05:25] <Izaya> friendly reminder that you can do animated wallpapers with nothing more than vlc or mpv
L290[17:05:44] <Izaya> or even better, write a program to display stuff with SDL and display it as the root window
L291[17:06:18] <Wattana Gaming> Izaya do you know how big is inf?
L292[17:06:19] <ben_mkiv> probably any xscreensaver works
L293[17:06:30] <AmandaC> ... wallpaper of NASA TV
L294[17:06:31] <Izaya> ben_mkiv++
L295[17:13:30] <Izaya> side note, just reset my server's world if anyone wants to join
L296[17:14:00] <ben_mkiv> better tell me where xscreensaver puts its bins as i cant find them -.-
L297[17:14:01] <Wattana Gaming> *Is RAIDception possible?*
L298[17:14:16] <Wattana Gaming> ?
L299[17:14:21] <Izaya> /usr/lib/xscreensaver IIRC
L300[17:15:00] <ben_mkiv> nope, all i could find are xmls in /usr/share/xscreensaver
L301[17:17:45] <Izaya> just looked for it on my machine till I realised I don't have it installed
L302[17:18:06] <ben_mkiv> `/usr/lib64/misc/xscreensaver/` -.-
L303[17:19:47] <CompanionCube> RAIDCeption?
L304[17:24:27] <Wattana Gaming> make a RAID drive from multiple RAID drives
L305[17:24:55] <Izaya> depends how invested you are
L306[17:25:02] <Izaya> there are multi-filesystem virtual filesystems
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L308[17:40:01] <evg-zhabotinsky> @Wattana Gaming RAIDception usually makes no sense. You want either RAID 0, or RAID 1, or a combo that is RAID 10, or one of the parity variants. Of course, anything is possible (on Linux, at least), you totally can use BTRFS on top of several RAIDs on top of LVM partitions that are backed by lots of small files scattered across several disks, various network storage and an automated tape library. Why would anyone do that is a different
L309[17:42:48] <Izaya> https://oc.cil.li/index.php?/topic/1206-distfs-a-spanned-volume-fs-when-bigger-isnt-big-enough/
L310[17:46:03] <CompanionCube> Izaya: well
L311[17:46:11] <CompanionCube> inb4 'ZFS on ZFS'
L312[17:58:53] <evg-zhabotinsky> Hm. Has anyone made any automated tape library software for OC+Computronics?
L313[18:00:37] <evg-zhabotinsky> I mean, it is totally possible to make a fake FS component that uses a normal FS as cache and several chests full of tapes as the main storage.
L314[18:00:48] * Izaya nods
L315[18:04:22] <evg-zhabotinsky> Though not every physical server has enough space for a big library like that... It's about 2.5GB per double chest full of 128min tapes!
L316[18:17:37] <asie> this is why i feared adding big tapes
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L319[19:03:57] <TheFox> %tonk
L320[19:03:58] <MichiBot> I'm sorry TheFox, you were not able to beat Zef's record of 6 hours, 20 minutes and 11 seconds this time.
L321[19:03:59] <MichiBot> 2 hours, 2 minutes and 36 seconds were wasted! Missed by 4 hours, 17 minutes and 34 seconds!
L322[19:04:18] <TheFox> gonna get the bap
L323[19:12:09] <Z0idburg> some tape drives have builtin compression
L324[19:12:18] <Z0idburg> are you using zlib compression for tapes asie?
L325[19:15:30] <Mimiru> damn it ben >_<
L326[19:21:25] <Z0idburg> Ben?
L327[19:21:28] <Enthalpy> ZFS on ZFS... sounds like something @Z0idburg would do...He did xen inside of xen...and completely messed up his filesystem...
L328[19:21:47] <Z0idburg> No I did Xen inside of Xen inside of Xen
L329[19:21:52] <Z0idburg> 3 is the magic number remember?
L330[19:22:40] <Mimiru> I'm having an issue running OS, and I was hoping he'd be around, and he isn't on IRC at the very least
L331[19:22:46] <Mimiru> @status ben_mkiv
L332[19:22:52] <Mimiru> @status @ben_mkiv
L333[19:22:52] <Discord> ben_mkiv is currently OFFLINE
L334[19:22:59] <Mimiru> and he's offline on Discord too
L335[19:23:44] <Z0idburg> OH him
L336[19:23:50] <Z0idburg> I forgot about him how's he doin
L337[19:24:39] <Wattana Gaming> Zoid I have an interesting fact for you
L338[19:24:44] <Mimiru> Ok, fuck it.. anyone else here include Advanced Rocketry in their mod, actually able to run it from the IDE?
L339[19:25:26] <Z0idburg> What's up Wattana?
L340[19:25:43] <Wattana Gaming> Infinity is actually finite http://tinyurl.com/y6b4gpcn
L341[19:25:52] <Wattana Gaming> This changes everything
L342[19:26:35] <Z0idburg> how are you detecting free membory?
L343[19:26:55] <Wattana Gaming> computer.freeMemory()
L344[19:27:18] <Wattana Gaming> but anyway, this proves everything about infinity is *wrrong*
L345[19:27:25] <Z0idburg> oh I forgot about that function
L346[19:27:49] <Z0idburg> what is infinity?
L347[19:27:51] <Z0idburg> infinity what?
L348[19:28:02] <Wattana Gaming> Infinity is actually finite
L349[19:28:24] <Z0idburg> yes..
L350[19:28:28] <Z0idburg> its the same in some Forths
L351[19:28:55] <Z0idburg> Actually thanks for pointing that out
L352[19:29:10] <Z0idburg> I now have another value I can abuse
L353[19:29:28] <Z0idburg> you see, when trotwood listens in for networking requests you send nil over the network to it
L354[19:29:34] <Z0idburg> but now I can use inf as well for other things
L355[19:30:06] <Wattana Gaming> lol im just putting up an act lol
L356[19:30:23] <Wattana Gaming> infinity is probably only finite on programming
L357[19:30:35] <Wattana Gaming> infinity is probably only finite in programming [Edited]
L358[19:30:48] <Z0idburg> due.
L359[19:30:50] <Z0idburg> duh*
L360[19:31:07] <Z0idburg> it all boils down to cpu features in the end
L361[19:31:22] <Z0idburg> and I am pretty sure it doesn't use any special infinite value
L362[19:31:35] <Z0idburg> so eventually it has to coerce into something
L363[19:31:54] <Z0idburg> for example, ever wonder what true and false usually are?
L364[19:32:17] <Wattana Gaming> ?
L365[19:33:51] <Enthalpy> 0 == False.
L366[19:33:55] <Z0idburg> Forth does it in a very traditional way
L367[19:33:56] <Z0idburg> yes
L368[19:33:59] <Z0idburg> 0 is false
L369[19:34:14] <Z0idburg> what true is can be a trick question ?
L370[19:34:42] <Z0idburg> I'm surious if you can figure it out. I'll check back here in a minute while I finish something in the other room
L371[19:36:33] <Z0idburg> ok.
L372[19:36:37] <Z0idburg> @Wattana Gaming figure it out?
L373[19:36:58] <Wattana Gaming> ***Dies from overthinking***
L374[19:37:03] <Z0idburg> First part is what is true usually, second part is why is it like that
L375[19:37:05] <Mimiru> Not 0? :P
L376[19:37:32] <Z0idburg> Mimiru is technically correct
L377[19:37:36] <Z0idburg> it definitely isn't zero
L378[19:37:48] <Enthalpy> The best kind of correct.
L379[19:37:58] <Mimiru> ^
L380[19:37:59] <Z0idburg> In some languages true is 0 and false is the other
L381[19:38:26] <Z0idburg> I will give you a hint!
L382[19:38:31] <Z0idburg> it's not usually 1
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L384[19:45:30] <Z0idburg> @Wattana Gaming just guess!
L385[19:47:02] <Z0idburg> it may not be absolutely obvious if you haven't done much wit hhardware
L386[19:47:25] <Z0idburg> but another hint could be to think of how if x != true would work
L387[19:47:39] <Z0idburg> how would hardware check if something is not true
L388[19:47:44] <Z0idburg> well, how could*
L389[19:48:03] <Z0idburg> I'm going to skip the fact that its usually done with subtraction
L390[19:48:14] <Z0idburg> or sorts
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L392[19:57:20] * CompanionCube complains about 'adb restore' only restoring some things
L393[20:01:17] <Mimiru> java.lang.NoSuchFieldError: isBlockContainer
L394[20:01:17] <Mimiru> at zmaster587.libVulpes.block.multiblock.BlockHatch.<init>(BlockHatch.java:38)
L395[20:01:18] <Mimiru> ffs
L396[20:07:09] <Wattana Gaming> im ded
L397[20:12:00] <Z0idburg> back
L398[20:12:11] <Z0idburg> @Wattana Gaming so giving up eh?
L399[20:13:29] <Z0idburg> It's generally the maximum number the wordsize can be. In two's compliment and most systems, that would be -1
L400[20:13:50] <Z0idburg> You can toggle between true and false just by flipping all of the bits
L401[20:14:09] <Z0idburg> in an 8 bit signed twos compliment system you can just flip between 00000000 for true and 11111111 which is -1
L402[20:15:14] <Z0idburg> in some languages like Forth, to check if something is not true, it's actually taking the value of true or false, whatever it is, flipping all of the bits, and checking if its true.
L403[20:15:23] <Z0idburg> vice verse for false
L404[20:16:23] <Z0idburg> However this can be confused with checking if things are equal. that is usually done with subtraction.
L405[20:16:46] <Z0idburg> if false == false
L406[20:16:57] <Wattana Gaming> I think my head is burning
L407[20:17:02] <Z0idburg> it takes 11111111 - 11111111, and if the result is 0 then it's equal
L408[20:17:05] <Z0idburg> ok. ?
L409[20:17:52] <Z0idburg> oh di you see I got my tokenizer working for gtty?
L410[20:18:54] <Mimiru> ffs..
L411[20:19:07] <Mimiru> I knew adding more damn deps would complicate things ._.
L412[20:19:34] <Z0idburg> See this is why I bash Java programmers
L413[20:20:09] <Z0idburg> they have this strange mindset that reinventing the wheel is always bad no matter what and as soon as they need something they look for some prefab solution for it, then end up in a pickle like Mimiru just did ?
L414[20:20:27] <Mimiru> ...
L415[20:20:35] <Z0idburg> I'm just teasing
L416[20:20:37] <Mimiru> Except this is compat with another mod.. not just some lib
L417[20:20:52] <Z0idburg> But you know it's true!
L418[20:20:53] <Corded> * <Z0idburg> runs
L419[20:21:34] <Z0idburg> Oh man I just had a flashback from my first college I went to
L420[20:21:44] <Mimiru> Also, yes I'm not going to roll my own crypto shit, so I pull a lib for it
L421[20:21:47] <Mimiru> sue me. :D
L422[20:22:02] <Z0idburg> Some guy was sitting in the main hall public lounge claiming to be this amazing Java programmer
L423[20:22:08] <Z0idburg> I agree with that Mimiru
L424[20:22:14] <Z0idburg> and I won't roll my own XML lib either
L425[20:22:16] <Z0idburg> but!
L426[20:23:22] <Z0idburg> so this guy was talking crazy trash when I walked in, I did eventually talk to him but I just asked questions, I really didn't want to ruin his day
L427[20:23:57] <Z0idburg> but he started going crazy and yelling out stuff like "its not coding its programmers real programmers like Java programmers dont say coding"
L428[20:23:58] <Z0idburg> rofl
L429[20:24:48] <Z0idburg> but he started going crazy and yelling out stuff like "its not coding its programming and real programmers like Java programmers dont say coding" [Edited]
L430[20:30:13] <Wattana Gaming> lel
L431[20:36:01] <Mimiru> o_O
L432[20:45:09] <Izaya> Lesson learned:
L433[20:45:13] <Izaya> garlic and vegimite do not mix
L434[20:56:59] <Wattana Gaming> why>
L435[20:57:08] <Wattana Gaming> why? [Edited]
L436[20:57:17] <Izaya> both end up ... very strong
L437[20:57:52] <Wattana Gaming> but fry garlic and you'll get something real nice :>
L438[21:04:51] <Mimiru> @ben_mkiv how the fuck do you get this thing to run? lol
L439[21:05:09] <Wattana Gaming> What u talking about?
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L442[21:47:53] <Zef> %tonk
L443[21:47:53] <MichiBot> You still hold the record Zef, for now... 6 hours, 20 minutes and 11 seconds
L444[21:49:41] * Mimiru sighs only been 2 hours..
L445[21:50:47] <Mimiru> Well fuck it.
L446[21:50:58] <Mimiru> I guess I'm not doing shit on OpenSecurity
L447[22:03:19] <Zef> Well I didn't pay attention
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L449[22:55:26] <Wattana Gaming> Someone just messaged me asking something I didnt know
L450[22:55:43] <Wattana Gaming> ***please tell me how the fuck to configure arch after a base instal***
L451[22:55:52] <SF-MC> lol
L452[22:57:20] <Zef> Doesn't arch have like
L453[22:57:24] <Zef> Literally nothing
L454[22:57:37] <SF-MC> the correct answer is
L455[22:57:47] <SF-MC> "Go look at the freakin' Arch wiki"
L456[22:58:20] <Zef> And then they'll have some specific problem that nobody else has ever had
L457[23:09:06] <AmandaC> And don't forget to check their blog before every single run of pacman
L458[23:09:37] <AmandaC> You never know when they'll decide to break the world in a way that requires manual repair
L459[23:12:11] <Izaya> SF-MC: I like how that fits for both questions
L460[23:12:37] <SF-MC> the arch wiki is actually really good though
L461[23:12:43] <Izaya> it is
L462[23:12:45] <SF-MC> it often applies even if you aren't using Arch
L463[23:13:54] <Zef> Well I tried out the new thaumcraft
L464[23:13:59] <Zef> Very very interesting
L465[23:14:29] <AmandaC> Anyway, guess I'll sleep. Night nerds
L466[23:14:33] <SF-MC> o/
L467[23:16:02] <Zef> %quote
L468[23:16:03] <MichiBot> Quote #115: <Mettaton_Fab> i just took some instant noodles and put some steak in them.
L469[23:16:12] <Zef> Whyyyy
L470[23:38:25] <Zef> I guess it depends on the flavor
L471[23:39:12] <gamerred> guys I wanna loop through a table and make a program to help me write the table to a diff one with user input is it possible? like say my items are a and b it will ask me how many items for a and if I type 10 it will write a line that says {item = a,amount = 10}
L472[23:40:39] <Zef> Have you tried using pairs?
L473[23:41:20] <gamerred> pairs and ipairs just dont know how to do it so I can push user input to each individual lines
L474[23:41:46] <Zef> No idea what you're trying to say
L475[23:41:57] <Izaya> I mean, they run the statement contained within for each key/value pair
L476[23:43:10] <gamerred> like I make a program that in my case is rs.getPatterns() I wanna loop through it and it will ask me how many of a item I want crafted then I input a number and it will add to a txt file the nbt with amounts
L477[23:43:48] <gamerred> I know how to loop through it just dont know how to attach user input
L478[23:46:30] <Zef> io.read maybe? Then again that's my solution (not great)
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