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L1[00:03:22] <payonel> AND now i see typos...
L2[00:03:23] <payonel> sigh
L3[00:03:31] <payonel> basically..everywhere
L4[00:03:35] <payonel> "cards now ignore properly ignore"
L5[00:03:36] <CompanionCube> 1.7.4.1
L6[00:03:41] <CompanionCube> :p
L7[00:03:48] <payonel> nope, i just have to live with that one
L8[00:04:06] <payonel> in our changelogs for all branches, in all 4 links in curseforge
L9[00:04:13] <payonel> heh, i can edit the github release page
L10[00:05:34] <payonel> but oc now has >5000 commits
L11[00:08:11] <payonel> %tell lizzy the most important thing about 1.7.4 is the "zero size file" fix
L12[00:08:12] <MichiBot> payonel: lizzy will be notified of this message when next seen.
L13[00:08:31] <Izaya> was that the openjdk-related one?
L14[00:08:34] <payonel> yes
L15[00:08:37] <Izaya> huh
L16[00:08:44] <Izaya> ngl I'm kinda confused how it even turned up
L17[00:08:54] * Izaya has never seen an oracle java install on a loonix machine
L18[00:09:11] <payonel> well it wasn't all of openjdk
L19[00:09:22] <payonel> i run openjdk on my gentoo server, and it didn't repro there
L20[00:09:25] <CompanionCube> Izaya: openjdk != oracle
L21[00:09:37] <Izaya> CompanionCube: that's my point
L22[00:10:05] <payonel> CompanionCube: i think Izaya was surprised we didn't see it before, given that we (specifically, myself) run linux
L23[00:10:09] <CompanionCube> (Even if openjdk is basically oracle with fancy support and branding_
L24[00:10:10] <Izaya> the issue wasn't a thing on oracle java but how it wasn't noticed when basically no servers run oracle java
L25[00:10:19] <payonel> right
L26[00:10:27] <payonel> anyways, i'm not certain what the issue was
L27[00:10:29] <CompanionCube> (except the windows ones)
L28[00:10:38] * Izaya uses OpenJDK on the rare occasion they use Windows also
L29[00:10:41] <payonel> but i spoke to some who know a lot more than me, and we think that we were just lucky this whole time
L30[00:11:10] <payonel> and that a recent update in openjdk decided to treat our non-blocking file channel transfer request as a zero byte copy on the first pass
L31[00:11:32] <payonel> i probably could have cleaned up the way we were using the channel copy with SAME api we were using before
L32[00:12:00] <payonel> but i felt safer using a bytebuffer and with code that is more akin to my own personal experience
L33[00:12:31] <payonel> and when i say, those who know a lot more than me, specifically about java
L34[00:12:36] <payonel> as...i know very little about java
L35[00:13:31] <Izaya> I wish more mods had RSS feeds so I could have them in my RSS reader and know when they had updates
L36[00:13:36] <Izaya> ... Does Curse provide RSS feeds?
L37[00:13:58] <CompanionCube> lol
L38[00:14:07] <Mimiru> nope, I had to write a scrapper for my Forge version json stuff
L39[00:14:28] <Izaya> well that's trash
L40[00:14:31] <Izaya> why not?
L41[00:14:51] <Mimiru> cause fuck you, that's why
L42[00:14:56] <Mimiru> :P
L43[00:15:00] <Izaya> ... right
L44[00:15:05] <Izaya> Amazon product.
L45[00:15:08] <Izaya> Carry on.
L46[00:15:16] <payonel> you as in Izaya, specifically btw
L47[00:15:21] <payonel> they know who you are
L48[00:15:29] <Mimiru> lol
L49[00:15:30] <Izaya> shit
L50[00:15:35] * Izaya sets fire to self
L51[00:15:51] <Izaya> You'll never take me alive!
L52[00:17:02] <Forecaster> You'll go to zombie jail
L53[00:21:09] <CompanionCube> Worse,
L54[00:21:51] <CompanionCube> they'll make you work as a full-stack nodeJS SPA developer on blockchain/crypto-related projects
L55[00:22:26] * CompanionCube hides behind Forecaster
L56[01:01:47] * Izaya hugs CompanionCube
L57[01:01:53] <Izaya> (While still on fire)
L58[01:02:26] <CompanionCube> most of the fire is on Forecaster thouh
L59[01:02:36] <CompanionCube> but I expected that
L60[01:02:47] <CompanionCube> that's why i used them as a shield
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L62[01:10:16] <Forecaster> ohno
L63[01:10:43] <Forecaster> %tonk
L64[01:10:44] <MichiBot> Dogast! Forecaster! You beat Izaya's previous record of 8 minutes and 55 seconds! I hope you're happy!
L65[01:10:45] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 1 hour, 26 minutes and 40 seconds! 1 hour, 17 minutes and 44 seconds gained!
L66[01:10:50] <Forecaster> woo
L67[01:12:34] <Forecaster> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qcuJM1H_lQ
L68[01:12:35] <MichiBot> The Dying Art of Anime Music Videos | length: 13m 44s | Likes: 51,131 Dislikes: 678 Views: 840,833 | by Gigguk | Published On 13/8/2018
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L70[01:56:12] <Kleadron> why did my pc turn back on
L71[01:58:15] <Forecaster> it felt a disturbance in the force
L72[02:17:40] <Bob> o lawd
L73[03:13:32] <asie> %tonk
L74[03:13:33] <MichiBot> Voldemort! asie! You beat Forecaster's previous record of 1 hour, 26 minutes and 40 seconds! I hope you're happy!
L75[03:13:34] <MichiBot> asie's new record is 2 hours, 2 minutes and 48 seconds! 36 minutes and 8 seconds gained!
L76[03:13:36] <asie> >Voldemort!
L77[03:13:38] <asie> i'm not using MCP tho
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L81[04:43:44] <Forecaster> %fling
L82[04:43:45] * MichiBot flings a Magic carnivorous beef! (25%) in a random direction. It hits infina in the face. They take 27 damage (25+2).
L83[04:43:57] <Forecaster> oh wow
L84[04:44:01] <stephan48> "oops"
L85[04:44:05] <Forecaster> that was a high roll
L86[04:45:49] <Izaya> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dyv5nMBUwAAX9fJ.jpg
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L90[06:01:30] <ben_mkiv> nvm...
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L92[06:01:33] <ben_mkiv> %potion
L93[06:01:33] <MichiBot> ben_mkiv: You get a salty red potion
L94[06:01:37] <ben_mkiv> %drink ^
L95[06:01:37] <MichiBot> ben_mkiv's nose vanish for one minute.
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L97[06:21:43] <MGR> "Gruff paused for a moment on the other end of the line. He’d either had an epiphany or a stroke." --- Quote 1/2
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L105[08:28:43] <Forecaster> http://imgur.com/gallery/m8CATfk
L106[08:28:48] <Forecaster> Happy dawg
L107[08:37:31] <Z0idburg> HA HA HA
L108[08:37:43] <Z0idburg> Izaya: We have service in Hersey, Maine
L109[08:37:50] <Z0idburg> I didn't realise this
L110[08:38:10] <Z0idburg> The reason why I mentioned it though, is because Hersey has a population of 77 people.
L111[08:38:28] <Z0idburg> in 40 square miles
L112[08:38:30] <Forecaster> %stats
L113[08:38:30] <MichiBot> Stats: https://oclogs.pc-logix.com/stats.html
L114[08:40:01] <MGR> "Grey: Oh good. You know what all the children like right?" --- Quote 2/2
L115[08:41:11] <Forecaster> hm
L116[08:41:16] <Forecaster> "Most lively bots"
L117[08:41:22] <Forecaster> #1: MichiBot
L118[08:41:35] <Forecaster> how odd
L119[08:54:41] <MGR> %juggle 6
L120[08:54:41] * MichiBot juggles with that excellent macabre for the mouth, the Magic pronoun game! (25%), heaps of sleep, Raygun For Setting Cats On Fire (RFSCOF), Garlean donuts, & a poisonous snail
L121[08:55:47] <Mimiru> %tonk
L122[08:55:47] <MichiBot> Dogast! Mimiru! You beat asie's previous record of 2 hours, 2 minutes and 48 seconds! I hope you're happy!
L123[08:55:48] <MichiBot> Mimiru's new record is 5 hours, 42 minutes and 14 seconds! 3 hours, 39 minutes and 25 seconds gained!
L124[08:56:23] <Forecaster> apparently none of the items landed
L125[09:01:11] <Mimiru> %tonkout
L126[09:01:11] <MichiBot> Mimiru has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.005 tonk points! Current score: 0.005
L127[09:01:20] <Mimiru> ... ok I KNOW I had more than 0..
L128[09:01:38] * Mimiru sighs
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L130[09:15:42] <ben_mkiv> %potion
L131[09:15:42] <MichiBot> ben_mkiv: You get a warpy rock potion
L132[09:15:45] <ben_mkiv> %drink ^
L133[09:15:45] <MichiBot> ben_mkiv's pockets suddenly contain a number of marbles.
L134[09:15:52] <ben_mkiv> wohoo
L135[09:16:04] <AmandaC> oddly appropiate for what it is
L136[09:16:27] <Temia> %tonk
L137[09:16:28] <MichiBot> Willikers! Temia! You beat Mimiru's previous record of <0! I hope you're happy!
L138[09:16:29] <MichiBot> Temia's new record is 15 minutes and 16 seconds! 15 minutes and 16 seconds gained!
L139[09:16:37] <Forecaster> MichiBot is the best at RNG
L140[09:19:59] <Inari> %pet Temia
L141[09:20:00] * MichiBot pets Temia with a swole nude squirrel. 3 health gained!
L142[09:20:16] * AmandaC whistles innocently
L143[09:22:42] * AmandaC slowly walks to the closet which contains her dimensional portal, still whistling
L144[09:23:00] <asie> oh no, not dimensional portals
L145[09:24:58] <AmandaC> %choose ? or ☢️
L146[09:24:58] <MichiBot> AmandaC: If I've learned anything in life it's that you always pick ?
L147[09:25:04] <AmandaC> er, wrong options
L148[09:25:16] <AmandaC> %choose ? or ?
L149[09:25:16] <MichiBot> AmandaC: If I've learned anything in life it's that you always pick ?
L150[09:25:36] <AmandaC> Hrm. I'll read the new chapters that I put off last night, then continue playing
L151[09:27:27] <Z0idburg> I really want to make a WebGL space gravity physics demo
L152[09:34:15] <Z0idburg> I just had a whacky idea
L153[09:34:37] <Z0idburg> what if the game's 3D world is only in the server represente dby octrees
L154[09:34:51] <Z0idburg> and the server constantly generates and transmits quadtrees of your visuals
L155[09:35:00] <Z0idburg> so that end ecomputers didn't have to do much processing
L156[09:35:18] <Z0idburg> that way your client is always doing 2D graphics
L157[09:35:34] <Z0idburg> but to the player it is very 3D
L158[09:42:50] <Forecaster> much graphics, such details, very 3D
L159[09:46:47] <Z0idburg> :>
L160[09:47:06] <Z0idburg> I really like how point clouds work
L161[09:47:33] <Z0idburg> I think that it's a much more practical way to represent work with 3D graphics
L162[10:18:01] <ben_mkiv> but that requires static view
L163[10:18:02] <ben_mkiv> not much wow
L164[10:18:35] <ben_mkiv> or more users > way more load
L165[10:19:47] <Z0idburg> It doesn't have to be static view
L166[10:20:05] <Z0idburg> it would just push more work onto the server
L167[10:20:11] <Z0idburg> but the server should be doing the work anyways
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L173[10:54:38] <Inari|2> AmandaC: I want cheeeese
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L175[10:55:52] <Zef> %loot
L176[10:55:52] <MichiBot> Zef: You get a loot box! It contains a portable stick.
L177[10:56:03] <Zef> So a stick
L178[10:56:35] <Inari|2> %loot
L179[10:56:44] <Inari|2> Wow
L180[10:56:47] <Inari|2> thats a long cooldown
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L182[10:57:20] <Mimiru> people were spamming it way too much
L183[10:57:28] <Inari|2> Psh
L184[10:57:38] <Zef> Me
L185[11:00:59] <Inari|2> %inv add befuzzlement
L186[11:01:01] * MichiBot summons 'befuzzlement' and adds to her inventory. This seems very sturdy.
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L206[12:23:46] <Forecaster> ohno ocdoc
L207[12:24:51] <Skye> oc doc
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L209[12:35:52] <Michiyo> there, have your ocdoc back
L210[12:36:37] <Michiyo> ben_mkiv, just curious, why not handle uuids as strings? does this break something I'm not aware of?
L211[12:36:54] <ben_mkiv> it just annoyed me xD
L212[12:37:09] <ben_mkiv> and theres no real reason to convert them back and forth, or is there?
L213[12:48:16] <Z0idburg> tbh you should always use UUIDs as strings unless you plan to use them for hashing
L214[12:49:03] <ben_mkiv> why should i if theres an internal UUID datatype?
L215[12:49:22] <Skye> sometimes crazy people use strings instead of UUIDs
L216[12:49:24] <Skye> as in
L217[12:49:36] <Skye> sometimes people throw strings that cannot become UUIDs at you
L218[12:50:05] <ben_mkiv> for the userinput theres already a check for valid characters
L219[12:50:44] <Z0idburg> Trotwood keeps UUIDs as strings becuase it makes it easy to search by UUID prefox
L220[12:50:46] <Z0idburg> prefix*
L221[12:51:03] <Z0idburg> i.e. any UUID in trotwood can be referenced by the firts segment of 48 bytes of string
L222[12:51:59] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjTv8ivh7mY
L223[12:52:00] <MichiBot> Your money or your life | length: 19s | Likes: 81,597 Dislikes: 564 Views: 1,858,131 | by Bacon_ | Published On 22/2/2018
L224[12:53:07] <ben_mkiv> oh and yes, UUID.fromString() throws an exception if its non valid input
L225[12:56:24] <Z0idburg> you must be using some other interface for UUID like in another language
L226[12:56:48] <ben_mkiv> java, no idea what you are talking about
L227[12:57:02] <Z0idburg> oh gross
L228[12:57:32] <Z0idburg> I thought you were talking about Lua
L229[12:58:07] <ben_mkiv> no, and its still converted to/from string for the lua methods
L230[12:58:08] <ben_mkiv> s
L231[12:58:26] <ben_mkiv> so for users nothing changes
L232[12:58:29] <Z0idburg> Continue doing what you're doing then, Java probably puts every bit of the UUId in its own class anyways ?
L233[12:58:45] <ben_mkiv> actually it runs each bit in a own vm
L234[12:58:53] <Z0idburg> LOL
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L236[13:00:03] <Z0idburg> Somebody called in yesterday and asked me if the speedtest he had which was 650 meg down about and 900 something up was fast enough for apple TV
L237[13:00:12] <Zef> What the fuck
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L239[13:00:48] <Z0idburg> They were very serious
L240[13:01:07] <Z0idburg> They were having connection problems and started questioning their bandwidth
L241[13:02:05] <Corded> * <Z0idburg> gives amandaC 650 / 900 Mbit
L242[13:04:52] <Z0idburg> You know what Zef
L243[13:10:00] <Z0idburg> @Zef I'ma run a speedtest
L244[13:10:13] <Zef> Oof
L245[13:10:40] <Zef> "oh you have shitty internet, btw I have 1gbit per second just so you know and I'm not bragging at all"
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L248[13:12:36] <Z0idburg> https://www.speedtest.net/result/8022255454
L249[13:12:43] <Z0idburg> LOL
L250[13:13:22] <Z0idburg> shitty Internet is relative
L251[13:13:29] <Z0idburg> what do you call shitty Zef?
L252[13:14:05] <Z0idburg> tbh I was cheating that's from my shadow. Let me see..
L253[13:15:02] <Z0idburg> https://www.speedtest.net/result/8022261910.png
L254[13:15:08] <Z0idburg> Technically speaking that's here at work
L255[13:15:14] <Z0idburg> but at home I have like 100 x 10
L256[13:15:42] <Z0idburg> Then I have a 56K backup line
L257[13:19:47] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L258[13:19:48] <MichiBot> Jeepers! CompanionCube! You beat Temia's previous record of 15 minutes and 16 seconds! I hope you're happy!
L259[13:19:49] <MichiBot> CompanionCube's new record is 4 hours, 3 minutes and 19 seconds! 3 hours, 48 minutes and 2 seconds gained!
L260[13:20:17] <CompanionCube> %tonkout
L261[13:20:18] <MichiBot> CompanionCube has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.004 tonk points! Current score: 0.018
L262[13:22:05] <Forecaster> %tonk
L263[13:22:06] <MichiBot> Goshhawk! Forecaster! You beat CompanionCube's previous record of <0! I hope you're happy!
L264[13:22:07] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 1 minute and 47 seconds! 1 minute and 47 seconds gained!
L265[13:28:27] <asie> %tonk
L266[13:28:28] <MichiBot> Dogast! asie! You beat Forecaster's previous record of 1 minute and 47 seconds! I hope you're happy!
L267[13:28:29] <MichiBot> asie's new record is 6 minutes and 21 seconds! 4 minutes and 34 seconds gained!
L268[13:36:03] <Forecaster> Aww
L269[13:36:19] <Forecaster> %tonk
L270[13:36:19] <MichiBot> Aw jeez! Forecaster! You beat asie's previous record of 6 minutes and 21 seconds! I hope you're happy!
L271[13:36:20] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 7 minutes and 51 seconds! 1 minute and 29 seconds gained!
L272[13:36:24] <Forecaster> Yay
L273[13:36:37] <Forecaster> http://imgur.com/gallery/mWh6KFF
L274[13:36:49] <Forecaster> It's a cat perplexing device
L275[13:40:52] <Forecaster> Also
L276[13:40:56] <Forecaster> http://imgur.com/gallery/mWZWaRh
L277[14:07:15] <Zef> Birb
L278[14:08:45] <Inari> Such detailed feathers
L279[14:09:02] <Inari> Just make sure it doesn't poop on the keyboard
L280[14:09:54] <payonel> %tonk
L281[14:09:55] <MichiBot> Dagnabbit! payonel! You beat Forecaster's previous record of 7 minutes and 51 seconds! I hope you're happy!
L282[14:09:56] <MichiBot> payonel's new record is 33 minutes and 35 seconds! 25 minutes and 44 seconds gained!
L283[14:10:40] <Zef> %loot
L284[14:10:40] <MichiBot> Zef: You get a loot box! It contains a broken .png.
L285[14:11:01] <payonel> Mimiru: mind updating the topic to say 1.7.4
L286[14:11:03] <Zef> Windows image viewer cannot display the file
L287[14:11:58] <Inari> https://imgur.com/gallery/TD1Ised
L288[14:12:54] <Zef> Upside down
L289[14:13:00] <Zef> Reflection on water
L290[14:14:29] <Forecaster> clearly someone is earthbending nearby
L291[14:15:43] <ben_mkiv> now the real twist is that if you change your POV to look to where the photo was taken you see some idiot holding the camera upside down
L292[14:16:27] <Forecaster> what if they flipped the image in post though
L293[14:17:15] <Forecaster> http://tinyurl.com/y7m83bsz
L294[14:17:45] <ben_mkiv> it says not edited
L295[14:18:14] <ben_mkiv> "The picture is real, it has not been edited!"
L296[14:19:31] <Forecaster> which could be true, or it could be a lie, or both
L297[14:19:39] <Forecaster> it also says "the trees are real" twice
L298[14:19:40] <Forecaster> :P
L299[14:20:31] <Zef> That description is awful
L300[14:20:31] <ben_mkiv> it also says that you can send boob and ass pics, didnt specify gender, so....
L301[14:20:38] <Zef> What is wrong with imgur
L302[14:20:41] <AmandaC> No see, that's classig misdirection
L303[14:21:04] <AmandaC> IT clearly means the trees are real, but nothing else is. There is nothing, only trees.
L304[14:22:47] <AmandaC> No gods, no kings, only trees
L305[14:23:50] <AmandaC> %choose continue trippin' or meh
L306[14:23:50] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Once you get a taste of continue trippin' you can't stop.
L307[14:24:10] <Zef> Oh
L308[14:26:25] <Forecaster> Vexatos did you observe me being trapped in a room yet? :P
L309[14:33:11] <Inari> https://imgur.com/gallery/lh2f3XG Oo
L310[14:38:04] <Vexatos> not yet, no
L311[14:38:19] <Vexatos> I have had a lot of 3D puzzles last week ,-,
L312[14:38:28] <Vexatos> or rather level 900 sudoku
L313[14:39:02] <Forecaster> but watching me trying to solve them will be a different kind of torture :P
L314[14:39:33] <Vexatos> well we had all week for these, but I did all of them in like five hours, whoops :I
L315[14:39:49] <Vexatos> structural elucidation is very fun, in a brain-melting way
L316[14:41:49] <Zef> Windows has a command for fixing dual boots
L317[14:41:56] <Zef> And the best part?
L318[14:42:02] <Zef> ***it doesn't take internet***
L319[14:42:11] <Vexatos> why would it
L320[14:42:33] <Zef> Because windows 10
L321[14:42:45] <Vexatos> I wouldn't know >_>
L322[14:43:10] <Zef> Well now windows 7 is checking disks for consistency and is finding lots of corrupt segments
L323[14:43:36] <Bob> When i dualboot, checkdisk happens alot
L324[14:43:37] <MichiBot> ALOT: http://tinyurl.com/y42zurt
L325[14:43:56] <Zef> I'm pretty sure it's because I let windows 10 update
L326[14:44:21] <Bob> No
L327[14:44:23] <Bob> Don't
L328[14:44:28] <Bob> Windows 7 is so much better
L329[14:44:37] <Bob> lacks DirectX 12 but not worth
L330[14:44:49] <Bob> i mean Windows 10 is filled with bloatware and other telemetry stuff
L331[14:44:56] <Zef> Guess what
L332[14:45:04] <Zef> I'm dual booting for a reason
L333[14:45:12] <Zef> I hate windows 10 but need it to use wmd
L334[14:45:16] <Zef> Wmr*
L335[14:45:19] <Bob> wmr ?
L336[14:45:28] <Bob> i know windows 10 has unique things but still
L337[14:45:30] <Zef> Windows mixed reality
L338[14:45:34] <Inari> https://imgur.com/gallery/72FQj9e
L339[14:45:56] <Vexatos> I haven't used windows in five years and 95% of the programs I use are Windows-only :P
L340[14:46:20] <Bob> W i n e
L341[14:46:26] <Vexatos> yup :I
L342[14:46:26] <Zef> It's a windows 10 app
L343[14:46:35] <Zef> Gotten from the windows 10 app store
L344[14:46:40] <Zef> Sooo
L345[14:46:45] <Bob> my proble with linux are drivers, so i will use windows until i build my new pc
L346[14:46:47] <Bob> m*
L347[14:46:56] <Vexatos> Drivers?
L348[14:47:03] <Bob> Nvidia card
L349[14:47:11] <Vexatos> ...your point?
L350[14:47:12] <Bob> 8 years
L351[14:47:24] <Vexatos> you can just install old drivers for old cards
L352[14:47:31] <Zef> I've heard linux has shit support for Nvidia cards
L353[14:47:37] <Bob> Yep
L354[14:47:39] <Vexatos> I am using an nvidia card :I
L355[14:47:40] <Bob> Whatever i tried
L356[14:47:55] <Bob> It always was or sloe or bugged as heck
L357[14:47:56] <Zef> "It works on my machine"
L358[14:48:02] <Kodos> ||Did you know you can spoilerize text in Discord now?||
L359[14:48:05] <Zef> Yes
L360[14:48:08] <Bob> Yes
L361[14:48:09] <Forecaster> yes
L362[14:48:13] <Zef> I've fucking seen that everywhere
L363[14:48:15] <Vexatos> it works on the five machines I installed Mint on so far
L364[14:48:16] <Zef> For the past week
L365[14:48:17] <Vexatos> :I
L366[14:48:25] <Bob> Components ?
L367[14:48:44] <Vexatos> ||haha now we can talk in a way that the idiots on discord won't see||
L368[14:48:44] <Zef> Uh
L369[14:48:48] <Bob> i mean whatever i tried for my 650 i couldnt get anything on it, previously on a laptop i couldnt get the wifi card to work but i had wired
L370[14:48:58] <Zef> I think checkdisk froze
L371[14:49:07] <Bob> ||We see it, theres an option to autoreveal spoilers Vex||
L372[14:49:22] <Zef> Or if you just haven't updated
L373[14:49:23] <Zef> http://tinyurl.com/y7zjb8zg
L374[14:49:24] <Forecaster> I think I heard something... damn rats!
L375[14:49:31] <Vexatos> I mean I have a 750 and I never had issues
L376[14:49:33] <Vexatos> so uh
L377[14:49:33] <Vexatos> :I
L378[14:49:58] <Forecaster> --skyrim npc
L379[14:49:59] <Zef> Uhh it's deleting a lot of things
L380[14:50:34] <Bob> g t x 6 5 0
L381[14:50:41] <Zef> "Deleting index entry (random thing) in index $130 if file (other thing)"
L382[14:50:46] <Zef> I30
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L384[14:52:15] <Vexatos> @Bob idk if someone like my uncle uses Linux and never has issues then I have no reason to ever tell anyone to use windows
L385[14:52:42] <Vexatos> because my uncle can break absolutely anything >_<
L386[14:53:06] <Bob> Windows should be less breakeable but more viruses i guess
L387[14:53:33] <Bob> Well i will see
L388[14:53:36] <Vexatos> well I've heard more issues from windows users than windows users in my family
L389[14:53:42] <Vexatos> windows than linux*
L390[14:53:52] <Vexatos> i.e. those people I installed Linux for :I
L391[14:54:05] <Vexatos> granted, they don't do much on their computers
L392[14:54:48] <Vexatos> just install Mint like a smart person it's completely foolproof nowadays :I
L393[14:56:50] <Vexatos> @Forecaster didn't watch many videos recently, I have a lot to do :P
L394[14:57:01] <Forecaster> >:
L395[15:00:34] <Vexatos> master's degree and all >_>
L396[15:00:54] <Forecaster> psh, excuses, is that even a real thing
L397[15:01:18] <AmandaC> ||Or if you're on IRC and it just looks like a stupid 13-year old's "edgy" username||
L398[15:01:49] <Zef> What
L399[15:02:43] <Forecaster> if corded didn't use the webhook you could probably surround your name with || and have it always be in a spoiler on this side :P
L400[15:03:54] <Zef> Or if you haven't updated discord it just looks dumb
L401[15:04:36] <Bob> ||Exactly||
L402[15:04:42] <AmandaC> It looks like an "Edgy" 13-year-old's XBox Live Username
L403[15:05:59] <Zef> I was gonna change my name to XxZef420xX just because of you saying that
L404[15:06:59] <Bob> xXx_CODPr0Z3F_xXx
L405[15:07:24] <Vexatos> AmandaC, don't mind xX1337h4x0rXx
L406[15:16:27] <Bob> http://tinyurl.com/ycy8c9h6
L407[15:16:39] <Bob> Typical windows experience
L408[15:19:11] <Inari> Eh
L409[15:19:19] <Inari> It'll ask you and you can tell it to do so later
L410[15:19:32] <Inari> Just if you're a lazy idiot who puts it off for 5 days then cause you're lazy.. :P
L411[15:27:32] <AmandaC> but my linux server has 15 years of uptime!!1111oneoneone
L412[15:27:34] <Z0idburg> You can't always do that Inari
L413[15:27:45] <AmandaC> ( And is, hopefully, air gapped and locked in a safe, off )
L414[15:27:54] <Inari> i could always do it
L415[15:27:58] <Z0idburg> if you do that enough times windows 10 will eventually prevent you from doing it and say you have to update and it will reboot x date and time and wont let you reschedule
L416[15:27:59] <Inari> Unless I've been putting it off for 5 days
L417[15:28:07] <Inari> I mean
L418[15:28:10] <Inari> Thats what I just said
L419[15:28:12] <Z0idburg> happened to me a couple times
L420[15:28:14] <Z0idburg> yeah
L421[15:28:14] <Inari> But yeah
L422[15:28:20] <Inari> So
L423[15:28:22] <Inari> Don't do that?
L424[15:28:29] <Z0idburg> It is my right
L425[15:28:39] <Inari> %actualshrug
L426[15:28:39] <MichiBot> Inari: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L427[15:28:40] <Z0idburg> I will refudse updates! ? ? ?
L428[15:29:51] <Z0idburg> there's this comic where Linux tux comes in to the room and says hey we have an update for you they're important security fixes, woul dyou like them?"
L429[15:30:01] <Z0idburg> and the guy goes "no thanks I will update when I feel like it"
L430[15:30:12] <Z0idburg> tux then goes, "Ok!"
L431[15:30:21] <AmandaC> And then someone comes in and stabs tux and injects a virus
L432[15:30:31] <Inari> That seems like a great recipe to have huge economic damage
L433[15:30:34] <Z0idburg> lol
L434[15:34:15] <evg-zhabotinsky> %tonk
L435[15:34:15] <MichiBot> Heckgosh! evg-zhabotinsky! You beat payonel's previous record of 33 minutes and 35 seconds! I hope you're happy!
L436[15:34:16] <MichiBot> evg-zhabotinsky's new record is 1 hour, 24 minutes and 20 seconds! 50 minutes and 45 seconds gained!
L437[15:35:18] <evg-zhabotinsky> AmandaC, are you for real? 15 years of uptime? I never had my laptop go beyond about 7 months!
L438[15:36:14] <evg-zhabotinsky> And I don't think you could update the kernel without rebooting till a few years ago.
L439[15:37:48] <AmandaC> ThatsTheJoke.tiff
L440[15:40:39] <evg-zhabotinsky> Every joke has a bit of a joke in it. Still, now you actually can even update the kernel without (fully) rebooting the system, and installing updates hardly ever requires anything but restarting the apps and services you want updated right now.
L441[15:41:26] <evg-zhabotinsky> Windows 10 automatic updates, though... Heh. One of those "security fixes" killed my roommate's laptop's WiFi, he is still umable to make it work again. And before that it killed the whole laptop, he had to use "factory recovery".
L442[15:41:56] <Inari> "Every joke has a bit of a joke in it." What
L443[15:43:25] <evg-zhabotinsky> What I meant is, 15 years of uptime is ridiculous, but still closer to truth than Win10 updates being non-disruptive.
L444[15:45:16] <dequbed> 15y uptime isn't much.
L445[15:46:46] <evg-zhabotinsky> "В каждой шутке есть доля шутки" is what I was going for, not sure if there is a better translation than I managed.
L446[15:47:06] <AmandaC> maybe "a bit of truth in it"?
L447[15:47:44] <evg-zhabotinsky> No, that would be the standard version.
L448[15:50:33] <evg-zhabotinsky> This variation is meant to be sarcastic, in a way that the joke turned out to be pretty close to how things actually are, intentionally or not.
L449[15:52:35] <evg-zhabotinsky> While the standard version means that jokes are rarely made out of thin air, there usually is at least some truth to them.
L450[15:58:49] <evg-zhabotinsky> My laptop actually almost reached 7 months of uptime once just because I could not be bothered to reboot it completely, yet I uplated lots of things in that timeframe, including Cinnamon DE and GPU drivers! As opposed to the Win10 machine I had to use at work, which on several occasions killed the huge tasks that I was leaving to run over weekends, and was generally a huge pain in the rear.
L451[16:00:15] <Bob> i blocked Windows from updating my pc without me gping onto settings
L452[16:00:33] <evg-zhabotinsky> The most frustrating part was trying to find a way to kill Windows Update on that machine. No matter what solution I managed to find, it always turned out that M$ already "fixed" it!
L453[16:02:44] <AmandaC> Pretty sure enterprises can delay it for up to 30 days
L454[16:03:04] <evg-zhabotinsky> @Bob Well, you were luccier than me then. Which version it was, by the way? Mine was an OEM Win10 Pro. Maybe Enterprise has that option available.
L455[16:03:20] <Forecaster> this reminds me of my out-of-date ubuntu machine
L456[16:03:22] <AmandaC> But it's got to be done through AD, or similar Enterprise™ features
L457[16:03:28] <Forecaster> it's still running ubuntu 12
L458[16:03:37] <AmandaC> ouch
L459[16:05:57] <Forecaster> and it's too late now
L460[16:06:00] <Forecaster> it wont update
L461[16:06:14] <evg-zhabotinsky> Heh. My Mint 19.1 was initially a 17.0, and besides the 2 major upgrades it survived some quite massive fiddling with partitions, and even a move to a different filesystem (Ext4 to BTRFS) and back.
L462[16:06:16] <AmandaC> RIP in pieces
L463[16:06:34] <Zef> %tonk
L464[16:06:35] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Zef, you were not able to beat evg-zhabotinsky's record of 1 hour, 24 minutes and 20 seconds this time.
L465[16:06:36] <MichiBot> 32 minutes and 19 seconds were wasted! Missed by 52 minutes and 1 second!
L466[16:06:40] <Zef> What
L467[16:06:44] <Zef> When was thay
L468[16:06:57] <Forecaster> 32 minutes ago
L469[16:07:08] <Forecaster> and 19 seconds
L470[16:07:24] <evg-zhabotinsky> My OEM Win7, on the other hand, completely refused to boot after I got careless and used GParted to shrink its partition.
L471[16:07:49] <evg-zhabotinsky> Use the Search, @Zef!
L472[16:08:03] <AmandaC> You probably lost some sectors with system-critical files
L473[16:08:16] <AmandaC> You have to properly resize the FS *first*
L474[16:08:37] <AmandaC> ( And I doubt GParted comes with NTFS, since the tools are likely non-free due to patent nonsense )
L475[16:09:18] <evg-zhabotinsky> Well, that sounds legit, but the FS itself is still in good condition, chkdsk says there are no problems.
L476[16:10:17] <evg-zhabotinsky> And yes, GParted resized it as well as it could. Maybe ntfs3g isn't perfect, or maybe there was some black magic on the Windows side that got banished in the process.
L477[16:11:14] <evg-zhabotinsky> Now it just reaches the glowy pulsating Windows logo and stays at it forever.
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L479[16:11:20] <Michiyo> Done sorry payonel
L480[16:11:35] <evg-zhabotinsky> And in safe mode it just freezes, no errors or anything.
L481[16:13:22] <evg-zhabotinsky> But it is still somewhat "alive", since the pulsating logo in the normal mode does not freeze, it just never ends.
L482[16:15:04] <evg-zhabotinsky> It's been like that for almost 2 years now. I'm still pulling some stuff from that partition from time to time. Like a modded Fallout4 install to run it on Wine. But mostly various DLLs that programs I run on Wine need.
L483[16:17:12] <evg-zhabotinsky> So yeah, a simple partition resize messed up my Windows pretty bad, and you cannot reinstall it without loosing all the configuration and installed apps. (Even if some apps would not care that they are not "installed" properly and keep working.)
L484[16:17:48] <payonel> Michiyo: cool, thanks
L485[16:18:25] <Bob> @evg-zhabotinsky i am on a Windows 10 Pro copy
L486[16:18:32] <Bob> did it trought Regidtry and some programs
L487[16:18:39] <Bob> that now became less effective
L488[16:18:51] <Bob> Also use local group policy
L489[16:19:10] <Bob> You can delay updates but it will force at some time
L490[16:19:35] <evg-zhabotinsky> I ended up duct-taping the DLLs responsible for Windows Update.
L491[16:19:54] <Bob> :GWtloLaugh: wat
L492[16:20:02] <Bob> No need for that really
L493[16:20:12] <Bob> i mean there is Local Group Policy and registry
L494[16:21:18] <evg-zhabotinsky> No trick I found online worked for me, so I just fired up IdaPro and looked at the DLLs for a few hours.
L495[16:21:52] <Bob> How desperate where you
L496[16:22:13] <Bob> Well at least it works
L497[16:22:14] <evg-zhabotinsky> It probably took longer than I spent searching for solution before that, but at least it was fun xD
L498[16:24:34] <evg-zhabotinsky> Sadly, I'm pretty sure it no longer works. In all likelyhod, that machine was wiped clean at least once after I left it.
L499[16:25:33] <evg-zhabotinsky> My current workhorse runs Centos7.
L500[16:25:50] <Bob> Mine runs windows 10 but with a bloat ton of tweaks
L501[16:26:00] <Bob> i just need DirectX12 and working drivers
L502[16:26:13] <Bob> couldn't Nvidia drivers work on linux
L503[16:26:19] <Bob> 8 years old pc so
L504[16:26:27] <evg-zhabotinsky> Well, they sort of work.
L505[16:26:48] <evg-zhabotinsky> I mean, Fallout4 was running pretty smoothly on Wine.
L506[16:27:33] <Bob> g t x 6 5 0
L507[16:27:33] <evg-zhabotinsky> Or rather, ran smoothly. Before I decided to update it and sound stopped working.
L508[16:27:54] <Bob> When someting updates and stops working it just kills me
L509[16:28:00] <Bob> Windows 10 ^
L510[16:28:14] <AmandaC> Steam did that with ihs on linua
L511[16:28:16] <AmandaC> linux*
L512[16:28:22] <Bob> *Insert Windows 10 Update meme*
L513[16:28:45] <AmandaC> https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/6066
L514[16:28:45] <MichiBot> Title: Steam In-Home Streaming from Windows to Linux causes grey/green screen | Posted by: Pobega | Posted: Fri Feb 01 00:07:08 CST 2019 | Status: open
L515[16:30:04] <evg-zhabotinsky> @Bob May I insert a Win10 *upgrade* joke instead? https://www.neowin.net/news/the-annoying-windows-10-upgrade-offer-gets-personified-in-manga-form/
L516[16:30:41] <Bob> Windows 10 update message so fucking awfull
L517[16:30:45] <evg-zhabotinsky> It's funny how that started even *before* Win10 got itself installed.
L518[16:31:06] <Bob> I had to remove all that windows 10 bloatwarefrom my win 7 install lmao
L519[16:34:24] <evg-zhabotinsky> There is some good in Win10, though. Multiple virtual desktops was a very welcome feature. It's a pity they didn't bother to allow changing the hotkeys in a sane way, still.
L520[16:35:15] <evg-zhabotinsky> It was very hard to make it behave even close to how my Cinnamon DE is configured.
L521[16:35:27] <Bob> ||HyperV < Oracle VirtualBox||
L522[16:35:32] <Bob> Isk i sisnt tested all the features
L523[16:35:50] <Bob> the main one i needed is DX12 that grants me the possibility to play most recent games at 60 fps
L524[16:35:57] <Bob> tought lowest quality but 60 fps
L525[16:36:02] <CompanionCube> lol DX12 ina VM
L526[16:36:11] <CompanionCube> you ain't getting that unless you pass through the whole card
L527[16:36:45] <CompanionCube> unless hyperv has sometihng unexpectedly good
L528[16:38:04] <evg-zhabotinsky> Well, with DX12 it may well be possible to do in a sane manner, mostly because it is stateless and thus you can just pass most of the stuff right through to the host's implementation.
L529[16:44:17] <evg-zhabotinsky> Huh. NVidia's site says that their 410.93 driver supports GTX650 on Linux. And there even seem to be beta Vulkan drivers, which would allow for near-native DX12 performance under Wine.
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L531[16:49:06] <Bob> I hope it will work
L532[16:49:17] <Bob> Last time i tried it was sn awfull mess
L533[16:49:32] <Bob> like card not detected but screen outlut so messed up and resolution shrinking
L534[16:51:02] <AmandaC> I need to figure out why 3d scenes can't be rendered under Proton at some point, unless I disable vulkan
L535[16:53:59] <evg-zhabotinsky> I currently have nvidia-driver-415 installed from graphics-drivers PPA. My GT730m Kepler, just like GTX650, so it should work about as well.
L536[16:55:30] <ben_mkiv> https://9gag.com/gag/aOY8QL2
L537[16:56:28] <evg-zhabotinsky> I like this better: https://imgur.com/ZQHYQKO
L538[16:57:11] <evg-zhabotinsky> Reminds me of the hovercat xD
L539[16:58:24] <evg-zhabotinsky> Also, the fur is awesome.
L540[17:01:23] ⇦ Quits: t20kdc (t20kdc!~20kdc@cpc139326-aztw33-2-0-cust441.18-1.cable.virginm.net) (Ping timeout: 190 seconds)
L541[17:57:28] ⇦ Quits: Vexatos (Vexatos!~Vexatos@p200300C107205E773A00C3D3D8C34BE3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Quit: Insert quantum chemistry joke here)
L542[18:28:32] <gamerred> Guys how do you floor a number again?
L543[18:36:56] <Zef> math.flooe
L544[18:37:01] <Zef> math.floor [Edited]
L545[18:37:08] <Zef> @gamerred
L546[18:43:16] <AmandaC> %choose ? or ?
L547[18:43:17] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Why not both?
L548[18:43:29] <AmandaC> ........ That's not how halucinating works
L549[18:56:09] <Izaya> sure it is
L550[19:20:33] <gamerred> thx @Zef
L551[19:52:05] <Mimiru> %tonk
L552[19:52:05] <MichiBot> Fopdoodle! Mimiru! You beat evg-zhabotinsky's previous record of 1 hour, 24 minutes and 20 seconds! I hope you're happy!
L553[19:52:06] <MichiBot> Mimiru's new record is 3 hours, 45 minutes and 30 seconds! 2 hours, 21 minutes and 9 seconds gained!
L554[20:35:41] <Mimiru> %tonkout
L555[20:35:42] <MichiBot> Mimiru has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.003 tonk points! Current score: 0.008
L556[20:41:21] <Zef> Uhem that's nothing.
L557[20:41:31] <Zef> Compared to me a tonk god
L558[20:48:12] <AmandaC> Mimiru: I say you set zef's tonk points to negative MAX_INT
L559[20:50:22] <Zef> ***I'll be an evil god then!
L560[20:50:34] <Zef> Fuck forgot to finish the formatting
L561[21:25:47] ⇦ Quits: ben_mkiv (ben_mkiv!~ben_mkiv@94.134.95.36) (Ping timeout: 180 seconds)
L562[21:54:44] <AmandaC> %tonk
L563[21:54:45] <MichiBot> Dad-Sizzle! AmandaC! You beat Mimiru's previous record of <0! I hope you're happy!
L564[21:54:46] <MichiBot> AmandaC's new record is 1 hour, 19 minutes and 3 seconds! 1 hour, 19 minutes and 3 seconds gained!
L565[21:54:52] <AmandaC> %tonkout
L566[21:54:52] <MichiBot> AmandaC has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.001 tonk points! Current score: 0.001
L567[21:55:04] <AmandaC> muwahahahaha, my first 0.001 point!
L568[21:55:24] <AmandaC> %choose ? or ?
L569[21:55:25] <MichiBot> AmandaC: You *could* do ?, I guess.
L570[21:56:06] * AmandaC wonders how that turned into the visual cue / trope for sleep, anyway
L571[21:57:32] * AmandaC curls up on Temia's pillow, dozes -- night nerds. :3
L572[22:04:58] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L573[22:04:58] <MichiBot> Dagnammit! CompanionCube! You beat AmandaC's previous record of <0! I hope you're happy!
L574[22:04:59] <MichiBot> CompanionCube's new record is 10 minutes and 5 seconds! 10 minutes and 5 seconds gained!
L575[22:18:22] <Zef> There are 400 people in this discord
L576[22:18:33] <Zef> I have only ever seen like 10 of them
L577[22:18:42] <Izaya> everyone interesting is on IRC
L578[22:18:55] <Zef> Even then
L579[22:19:04] <Zef> There's like 14 people on irc
L580[22:19:10] <Mimiru> welp you heard 'em.... 390 of you discord fuckers get out
L581[22:19:11] <Zef> That are active
L582[22:19:19] <Izaya> and there's 100+ people in the channel
L583[22:19:20] <Izaya> such is IRC
L584[22:19:40] <Zef> Like I don't know why they're here
L585[22:19:56] <Zef> Because you guys don't do announcements
L586[22:19:59] <Mimiru> they joined, asked a question and never left?
L587[22:20:03] <Mimiru> or they want to be?
L588[22:20:14] <Izaya> so they can skim over the activity occasionally and see if anything interesting happened?
L589[22:20:19] <Izaya> that's why I'm in 100+ channels
L590[22:24:50] * CompanionCube also does this
L591[22:25:00] <CompanionCube> my weechat buffer count is 85.
L592[22:25:34] <CompanionCube> Izaya: it's particularly nice when you don't even have to change buffers to skim
L593[22:25:36] <CompanionCube> yay for chanmon
L594[23:30:00] <Mimiru> %tonk
L595[23:30:01] <MichiBot> Dogast! Mimiru! You beat CompanionCube's previous record of 10 minutes and 5 seconds! I hope you're happy!
L596[23:30:02] <MichiBot> Mimiru's new record is 1 hour, 25 minutes and 2 seconds! 1 hour, 14 minutes and 56 seconds gained!
L597[23:34:49] <CompanionCube> yay
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