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L5[02:14:41] *
ba7888b72413a16a wants Moar Boats to improve support for
opencomputers
L6[02:14:52] <ba7888b72413a16a> so I can
have crazy autonomous boat factories
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L8[02:15:38] <SoraFirestorm> %tonk
L9[02:15:39] <MichiBot> Fopdoodle!
SoraFirestorm! You beat CompanionCube's previous record of 3 hours,
17 minutes and 12 seconds! I hope you're happy!
L10[02:15:40] <MichiBot> SoraFirestorm's
new record is 3 hours, 29 minutes and 3 seconds! 11 minutes and 50
seconds gained!
L11[02:15:52] <SF-MC> oh that wasn't by
much
L12[02:16:08] <SoraFirestorm>
%tonkout
L13[02:16:09] <MichiBot> SoraFirestorm has
tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.003 tonk points!
Current score: 0.003
L14[02:16:16] <SoraFirestorm> There, now I
have some tonk points <3
L15[02:17:23] <Izaya> ba7888b72413a16a:
that looks p cool
L16[02:17:53] <Izaya> can it control
things?
L17[02:19:43] <ba7888b72413a16a> I haven't
tried the mod yet
L18[02:19:44] 
<Kleadron>
WayTooManyItems
<Kleadron>
WayTooManyItemsL19[02:20:19] <ba7888b72413a16a> problem
right now is that it won't read hard drives, floppy disks, or
eeproms
L20[02:20:32] <ba7888b72413a16a> so it's
useless for anything that needs to persist across reboots
L21[02:20:49] *
Izaya laughs in microtel
L22[02:21:52] <ba7888b72413a16a> it won't
read eeproms so rip
L23[02:21:59] <Izaya> o-oh
L24[02:23:09] <ba7888b72413a16a> what do
you think people in 2010 thought minecraft would be like 9 years
later
L25[02:23:20] <ba7888b72413a16a> would they
have predicted autonomous computerboats?
L26[02:23:42] <SoraFirestorm> honestly I
bet a lot of people would think the game would have lost most of
its popularity
L27[02:24:04] <Izaya> in 2010 I didn't see
them selling out to Microsoft, that's for sure
L28[02:24:12] <SF-MC> yeah... :/
L29[02:24:31] <Izaya> I'd guess more like
redstone automated boats rather than computers running Lua
L30[02:24:45] <Kleadron>
imo selling to microsoft brought good and bad things with it
<Kleadron>
imo selling to microsoft brought good and bad things with itL31[02:24:55] <ba7888b72413a16a> redstone
boats sounds great
L32[02:25:17] <Kleadron>
bedrock edition needs a lot of work if they want it to become the
"new" minecraft
<Kleadron>
bedrock edition needs a lot of work if they want it to become the
"new" minecraftL33[02:25:18] <ba7888b72413a16a> but I
prefer wireless networking and actual code
L34[02:25:24] <ba7888b72413a16a> delete
bedrock edition
L35[02:25:26] <ba7888b72413a16a>
forever
L36[02:25:35] <Izaya> I don't see pocket
edition ever being the new minecraft tbh
L37[02:25:52] <Kleadron>
the only things i dont like about the bedrock edition is
microtransactions and xbox live
<Kleadron>
the only things i dont like about the bedrock edition is
microtransactions and xbox liveL38[02:26:09] <Kleadron>
and the fact its locked behind microsoft accounts and stuff
<Kleadron>
and the fact its locked behind microsoft accounts and stuffL39[02:26:19] <Izaya> it's also not cross
platform which is great
L40[02:26:35] <Kleadron>
its cross platform on consoles, not computers
<Kleadron>
its cross platform on consoles, not computersL41[02:26:52] <Izaya> correct me if I'm
wrong, but you can do MP between xbone and windows machines,
yes?
L42[02:26:56] <Izaya> so it's windows or
windows
L43[02:26:59] <ba7888b72413a16a> I would
like a keyboard-compatible game
L44[02:27:04] <ba7888b72413a16a> not
windows 10 edition
L45[02:27:10] <Kleadron>
uh
<Kleadron>
uhL46[02:27:34] <Kleadron>
are you missing some instruction sets or something there
ba7888b72413a16a
<Kleadron>
are you missing some instruction sets or something there
ba7888b72413a16aL47[02:27:44] <ba7888b72413a16a> https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Splash
L48[02:27:48] <ba7888b72413a16a>
"Keyboard compatible! "
L49[02:27:56] <Kleadron>
ohhhhhh
<Kleadron>
ohhhhhhL50[02:28:02] <Kleadron>
lmao
<Kleadron>
lmaoL51[02:28:10] <ba7888b72413a16a> see also:
"Vote for net neutrality!" Alpha 1.0.14
L52[02:28:34] <ba7888b72413a16a> still in
the java edition of the game
L53[02:29:46] <Kleadron>
if the bedrock edition was worked to be less reliant on microsoft
services and they removed micro transactions, and ported to more
platforms as a standalone application, it would be better imo
<Kleadron>
if the bedrock edition was worked to be less reliant on microsoft
services and they removed micro transactions, and ported to more
platforms as a standalone application, it would be better imoL54[02:30:08] <Izaya> Kleadron: doesn't
help platform lock-in so it won't happen
L55[02:30:31] <SF-MC> ^
L56[02:30:42] <SF-MC> You obviously don't
understand how Microsoft works
L57[02:30:53] <Kleadron> i
dont and i dont care either
<Kleadron> i
dont and i dont care eitherL58[02:31:03] <Izaya> you're totally right
though
L59[02:31:04] <SoraFirestorm> :/
L60[02:31:09] <Izaya> it would make it a
better game
L61[02:31:20] <Izaya> but it doesn't
support microsoft's interests so it won't happen
L62[02:31:40] <SF-MC> And exactly this
attitude is why the state-of-the-art in computing is nowhere near
where it should b
L63[02:31:45] <SF-MC> should be
L64[02:32:29] <Kleadron>
lets all make our own moddable, portable, lightweight voxel game
then
<Kleadron>
lets all make our own moddable, portable, lightweight voxel game
thenL65[02:32:38] <SF-MC> It's been done
L66[02:32:39] <ba7888b72413a16a>
minetest?
L67[02:32:41] <SF-MC> At least twice
L68[02:32:44] *
Izaya gives Kleadron Minetest or Terasology or that other
one
L69[02:32:53] <ba7888b72413a16a> minetest
is nice because it's very deep
L70[02:33:03] <Izaya> amusingly I think
Minecraft mods are the reason the player bases of both are
relatively small
L71[02:33:17] <ba7888b72413a16a> the
vertical build limit is the same as the horizontal build
limits
L72[02:33:20] <SF-MC> It's no
surprise
L73[02:33:32] <ba7888b72413a16a> you start
off in the center of a large cube in minetest
L74[02:33:38] <SF-MC> Honestly, Minecraft
is one of those games where the vanilla experience is just really
bad IMO
L75[02:33:39] <Kleadron> i
mean if there are an infinite number of linux distros we can have
an infinite number of minecraft clones
<Kleadron> i
mean if there are an infinite number of linux distros we can have
an infinite number of minecraft clonesL76[02:33:50] <Izaya> ba7888b72413a16a: I
like that you can stack a mod that adds a nether and a mod that
adds a sky-land and build up or dig down to them
L77[02:33:57] <Kleadron>
vanilla experience isnt bad at all what the hell are you talking
about
<Kleadron>
vanilla experience isnt bad at all what the hell are you talking
aboutL78[02:34:00] <SF-MC> Like, not bad in
terms of quality, but in terms of depth
L79[02:34:10] <ba7888b72413a16a> Izaya: has
that actually been done in minetest?
L80[02:34:18] <Izaya> 99% sure it has
L81[02:34:31] <ba7888b72413a16a> that would
be fun
L82[02:34:32] <Izaya> not sure if the
generators stack tbh but I know there are both things that generate
stuff above and below
L83[02:34:51] <Izaya> so you could pre-gen
the whole world with one then copy the relevant section from the
other
L84[02:34:59] <ba7888b72413a16a> have
bottome 1/3 of world be nether so you have to dig extremely far
down
L85[02:35:06] <ba7888b72413a16a>
s/bottome/bottom/
L86[02:35:06] <MichiBot>
<ba7888b72413a16a> have bottom 1/3 of world be nether so you
have to dig extremely far down
L87[02:35:15] *
Izaya nods
L88[02:35:18] <Izaya> or just build a
portal
L89[02:36:41] <SF-MC> Minetest would be so
much better too because they *actually have* a mod API
L90[02:36:49] <SF-MC> Things wouldn't break
all the damn time
L91[02:36:56] <Izaya> just gotta wait for
the UI rewrite
L92[02:37:04] <Izaya> then I'm gonna get
into it properly
L93[02:37:36] <Kleadron>
lets make a voxel game for original xbox and ps2
<Kleadron>
lets make a voxel game for original xbox and ps2L94[02:37:47] <Izaya> asie did that already
IIRC
L95[02:37:51] <Izaya> for the PS2
anyway
L96[02:37:55] <SoraFirestorm> of course he
did
L97[02:38:03] <Kleadron>
show me
<Kleadron>
show meL98[02:38:14] <Izaya> fuck iunno it was at
a BTM
L99[02:39:36] <Izaya> not on their
channel
L100[02:39:38] *
Izaya pages Skye
L101[02:40:08] <Kleadron> i
wanted to make my own crappy 3d game engine for a game loosely
based around the source engine but i have no coding skills so
yay
<Kleadron> i
wanted to make my own crappy 3d game engine for a game loosely
based around the source engine but i have no coding skills so
yayL102[02:40:26] <SoraFirestorm> Dude, the
3D math though
L103[02:40:40] <SoraFirestorm> I'm making
my own *2D* engine in OpenGL and the math is already hard
enough
L104[02:41:11] <Kleadron>
it would probably be a lot easier and it would probably also be
cheating to just make it on the xna framework
<Kleadron>
it would probably be a lot easier and it would probably also be
cheating to just make it on the xna frameworkL105[02:41:47] <Kleadron>
terraria still uses XNA for some reason
<Kleadron>
terraria still uses XNA for some reasonL106[02:41:51] <Kleadron>
which means it runs on windows xp
<Kleadron>
which means it runs on windows xpL107[02:41:59] <Izaya> because XNA was a
big thing in 2010 for games on Windows
L108[02:42:04] <Izaya> use something
cross-platform
L109[02:42:07] <SoraFirestorm> Probably
because they don't want to rewrite that part?
L110[02:42:14] <Kleadron>
it was also a big thing for xbox live indie games
<Kleadron>
it was also a big thing for xbox live indie gamesL111[02:42:22] <SoraFirestorm> And yes,
cross-platform
L112[02:43:02] <Kleadron>
SoraFirestorm: someone deobfuscated and recompiled terraria and
made it work on monogame so they could probablye easily port it to
that
<Kleadron>
SoraFirestorm: someone deobfuscated and recompiled terraria and
made it work on monogame so they could probablye easily port it to
thatL113[02:43:04] <Izaya> I wonder what the
loonix version uses internally
L114[02:43:13] <Izaya> I presume they
still use C# and etc
L115[02:43:25] <SF-MC> probably
L116[02:43:39] <SF-MC> having a port use
an entirely different language would be insane
L117[02:44:42] <Kleadron>
probably has been done
<Kleadron>
probably has been doneL118[02:45:13] <CompanionCube> can i say
'fuck consoles'
L119[02:45:37] <SF-MC> not without a good
reason
L120[02:46:17] <Kleadron>
the reason why game consoles existed is probably because some
people didnt want to screw around with complicated computer
crap
<Kleadron>
the reason why game consoles existed is probably because some
people didnt want to screw around with complicated computer
crapL121[02:46:20] <CompanionCube> fine.
L122[02:46:28] <SF-MC> Like, I get it both
ways
L123[02:46:28] <Kleadron>
and no matter what game you got, it would work just fine
<Kleadron>
and no matter what game you got, it would work just fineL124[02:46:46] <SF-MC> Often times, the
console experiene is the inferior one
L125[02:47:10] <SF-MC> But Kleadron said
it: it's really *really* nice to know that
L126[02:47:21] <Izaya> at one point
consoles were much better suited to games than contemporary
PCs
L127[02:47:23] <SF-MC> "I have a PS4.
If I buy this PS4 game, it will work"
L128[02:47:23] <Kleadron> i
never said that
<Kleadron> i
never said thatL129[02:47:35] <Izaya> course you could
get computers that were better at it but they weren't
x86-based
L130[02:47:46] <CompanionCube> Wasn't that
the '80s
L131[02:47:50] <CompanionCube> or
'90s
L132[02:48:05] <Izaya> 80s to early
90s
L133[02:48:23] <Izaya> IBM PCs and clones
were business machines, pretty much everything else was better for
games
L134[02:49:33] <Kleadron>
lets look at it this way, you could buy a single piece of hardware
(a console) and any games that you bought for it, would work for
it. on a desktop computer, you might need more ram, or a better
cpu, or a better gpu, so you have to go out and go through the
complicated bullcrap that is finding out if you can find a
compatible component, and then buying an expensive thing just so
you can play lego island at more that 5 fps
<Kleadron>
lets look at it this way, you could buy a single piece of hardware
(a console) and any games that you bought for it, would work for
it. on a desktop computer, you might need more ram, or a better
cpu, or a better gpu, so you have to go out and go through the
complicated bullcrap that is finding out if you can find a
compatible component, and then buying an expensive thing just so
you can play lego island at more that 5 fpsL135[02:49:43] ⇦
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L136[02:50:22] <SoraFirestorm> OTOH, once
you're *actually* playing, PC is often the better experience
L137[02:51:08] <SoraFirestorm> You have
mods
L138[02:51:16] <SoraFirestorm> PC is often
where the game is at its best anyways
L139[02:51:38] <SoraFirestorm> You can
upgrade your PC in 5 years and still have at least a viable path to
playing your games
L140[02:52:00] <Kleadron>
consoles are simpler though
<Kleadron>
consoles are simpler thoughL141[02:52:03] <SoraFirestorm> You can
emulate ;)
L142[02:52:05] <SoraFirestorm> That's
true
L143[02:52:09] <SoraFirestorm> But
again
L144[02:52:14] <Kleadron>
emulation is complicated as shit for the normal user
<Kleadron>
emulation is complicated as shit for the normal userL145[02:52:25] <SoraFirestorm> PCs might
be more complicated, but they are often the better experience once
it works
L146[02:52:28] <Kleadron>
and you can't emulate anything past the 5th generation without
problems
<Kleadron>
and you can't emulate anything past the 5th generation without
problemsL147[02:52:42] <SoraFirestorm> I
dunno.
L148[02:52:46] <SoraFirestorm> PCSX2 works
fine for me
L149[02:52:56] <Kleadron>
sure
<Kleadron>
sureL150[02:53:00] <SoraFirestorm> For the
majority of the games I've thrown at it
L151[02:53:15] <Izaya> RCPS3 is a thing
now isn't it?
L152[02:53:21] <SoraFirestorm> Izaya:
yup
L153[02:53:23] *
Izaya vaguely intends to try it
L154[02:53:42] <Izaya> I'm mildly excited
about the current gen console emulation possibilities
L155[02:53:44] <SoraFirestorm> Especially
now that PCSX2 has hardware mipmapping so Ratchet and Clank doesn't
just bomb
L156[02:54:04] <SoraFirestorm> yeah, PS4
and Xbone should be fairly easy to emulate
L157[02:54:09] <Izaya> should be able to
run the consoles as a VT-x VM with either GPU passthrough or
converting the GPU calls to Vulkan
L158[02:54:19] <SoraFirestorm> ^
L159[02:54:39] <Kleadron>
original xbox is x86 pentium based yet it took almost 2 decades to
get a working emulator that is somewhat stable
<Kleadron>
original xbox is x86 pentium based yet it took almost 2 decades to
get a working emulator that is somewhat stableL160[02:54:55] <SoraFirestorm> You do
probably need a minimum of 12+G of RAM though
L161[02:55:02] <SoraFirestorm> AFAIK
that's still not super common
L162[02:55:10] <CompanionCube> wasn't that
because of lack of interest
L163[02:55:18] <Izaya> Eh, you need that
for more and more games anyway tbh
L164[02:55:23] <CompanionCube> vs
technical difficulty
L165[02:55:36] <Izaya> if you're on loonix
that's for sure because DXVK is very memory heavy
L166[02:55:49] <SoraFirestorm> PS2 is hard
to emulate because it has lots of CPUs that cross-communicate
L167[02:56:05] <Kleadron>
wasnt there a directx 12 to vulcan thing for windows that could
work with windows 7
<Kleadron>
wasnt there a directx 12 to vulcan thing for windows that could
work with windows 7L168[02:56:25] <Kleadron>
frig i called it vulcan instead of vulkan
<Kleadron>
frig i called it vulcan instead of vulkanL169[02:56:45] <Izaya> once DXVK works
100% for DX12 you should be able to do DXVK on Windows in
theory
L170[02:57:04] <Izaya> though considering
how few games use DX12 I feel like DX11 is a better time
investment
L171[02:57:12] <SoraFirestorm> Serious
question: do you even have any reason to do that?
L172[02:57:35] <Izaya> to my knowledge all
DX12-supporting games require UWP trash anyway so good luck
L173[02:57:41] <SoraFirestorm> If you're
on Windows, why not just do DX12?
L174[02:57:53] <Izaya> SoraFirestorm:
platform lockin for Windows 10
L175[02:58:05] <Izaya> Not Allowed on
earlier versions
L176[02:58:16] <SoraFirestorm> I get it,
but...
L177[02:58:25] <SoraFirestorm> nm
L178[02:58:29] <Kleadron>
windows 10 is shit and we all know that and agree about that
<Kleadron>
windows 10 is shit and we all know that and agree about thatL179[02:58:51] <SoraFirestorm> Windows 10
is admittedly good for Windows
L180[02:59:02] <SoraFirestorm> It's still
Windows, so it's still garbage overall
L181[02:59:04] <SoraFirestorm> but
L182[02:59:16] <ba7888b72413a16a> windows
10 made windows worse
L183[02:59:19] <Izaya> I mean, the
internals for 8 and 10 are a significant improvement over 7
L184[02:59:21] <ba7888b72413a16a> and it
was already really bad
L185[02:59:34] <Forecaster>
works fine for me
<Forecaster>
works fine for meL186[02:59:35] <SoraFirestorm> You don't
have to tell me that Windows is bad
L187[02:59:38] <Izaya> I believe they even
moved the font renderer out of the kernel!
L188[02:59:56] <Izaya> It's a shame
everything on top of the kernel and drivers is basically trash
though.
L189[02:59:57] <SoraFirestorm>
*amazing*
L190[03:00:05] <ba7888b72413a16a> lol,
font rendering in kernel
L191[03:00:12] <CompanionCube> Izaya: the
NT kernel has always been decent though
L192[03:00:14] <SoraFirestorm> dude
L193[03:00:24] <CompanionCube> it's always
been dragged down by the win32 layer
L194[03:00:25] <SoraFirestorm> Windows has
it's freakin' *display server* in the kernel
L195[03:00:26] <Izaya> CompanionCube: yeah
it's a shame it's part of Windows
L196[03:00:29] <SoraFirestorm> Or at least
it did
L197[03:00:36] <SoraFirestorm> Forget font
rendering
L198[03:00:44] <Izaya> SoraFirestorm: I
just liked that you could BSOD the machine with a malformed
font
L199[03:00:53] <Kleadron>
lmao
<Kleadron>
lmaoL200[03:01:41] <Izaya> unfortunately
there's too much verification between web browsers and versions of
the kernel it works on
L201[03:01:47] <SoraFirestorm> I wish
Proton worked on my system without too much compromise
L202[03:01:49] <Izaya> otherwise I'd load
said malformed fonts on my site :3
L203[03:01:56] <Kleadron>
could probably lock up someones computer by replacing a font with a
broken one
<Kleadron>
could probably lock up someones computer by replacing a font with a
broken oneL204[03:01:56] <CompanionCube> Izaya: for
extra fun
L205[03:02:09] <CompanionCube> I think
truetype is turing-complete
L206[03:02:26] <Izaya> why is everything
fucking turing complete holy shit
L207[03:02:30] <Izaya> even HTML and
CSS
L208[03:02:32] <SoraFirestorm> But having
to use the nVidia garbage is ugh
L209[03:02:39] <Kleadron>
tbh you could piss off a lot of people for fun by doing that
izaya
<Kleadron>
tbh you could piss off a lot of people for fun by doing that
izayaL210[03:02:40] <SoraFirestorm> It's
usually not even on purpose
L211[03:02:45] <SoraFirestorm> It's
usually TC on accident
L212[03:03:19] <Izaya> that's the worst
part
L213[03:03:32] <Izaya> they're not
intentionally turing complete
L214[03:03:42] <Izaya> so they're a shitty
turing complete language by being turing complete by accident
L215[03:03:51] <SoraFirestorm> but really
though 'nvidia fuck you'
L216[03:04:00] <Kleadron>
can an image be turing complete
<Kleadron>
can an image be turing completeL217[03:04:25] <SoraFirestorm>
anyways
L218[03:04:27] <SoraFirestorm> I need to
go to bed
L219[03:04:32] <SoraFirestorm> it is 1AM
localtime
L220[03:04:33] <Izaya> o7
L221[03:04:35] <SoraFirestorm> I have to
be up
L222[03:04:39] <Kleadron>
it is also 1 am for me
<Kleadron>
it is also 1 am for meL223[03:04:42] <Kleadron>
cool
<Kleadron>
coolL224[03:04:42] <Izaya> Kleadron: do vector
images count?
L225[03:04:57] <Kleadron>
hmm
<Kleadron>
hmmL226[03:05:02] <Izaya> I'm 99% you could
do a turing-complete SVG
L227[03:05:10] <Kleadron>
probably
<Kleadron>
probablyL228[03:06:06] <Kleadron>
someone was wondering if you could take the userspace of windows xp
and drop it on top of windows 7's core and kernel and i was also
wondering the same thing, do you think that would be possible at
all
<Kleadron>
someone was wondering if you could take the userspace of windows xp
and drop it on top of windows 7's core and kernel and i was also
wondering the same thing, do you think that would be possible at
allL229[03:06:21] <SoraFirestorm>
possibly
L230[03:06:25] <Izaya> theoretically
maybe
L231[03:06:27] <Izaya> practically
no
L232[03:06:31] <SoraFirestorm> ^^^
L233[03:06:32] <SoraFirestorm> ok
L234[03:06:33] <SoraFirestorm> bed
L235[03:06:35] <SoraFirestorm> o/
L236[03:06:37] <Izaya> o/
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L238[03:07:10] <CompanionCube> Izaya: got
a source
L239[03:07:15] <CompanionCube> 'For
example, TrueType comes with its own turing complete instruction
set which you can learn more about here.'
L240[03:07:37] <CompanionCube> ...lol it
links straight to the reference manual
L241[03:07:42] <CompanionCube> that's
useless
L242[03:07:57] <Kleadron> i
wonder what the actual kernel differences between 5.x and 6.x
are
<Kleadron> i
wonder what the actual kernel differences between 5.x and 6.x
areL243[03:08:01] <Kleadron>
for the nt kernel
<Kleadron>
for the nt kernelL244[03:09:06] <Izaya> Pretty sure there's
a leak of 5.0
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L246[03:10:21] <CompanionCube> Izaya:
https://www.freetype.org/freetype1/docs/api/freetype1.txt
lol there's an error code for an infinite loop
L247[03:10:26] <CompanionCube> so
definitely TC
L248[03:10:38] <Kleadron>
if you are talking about the windows 2000 leak thats only for
accessories or something like that
<Kleadron>
if you are talking about the windows 2000 leak thats only for
accessories or something like thatL249[03:18:31] <CompanionCube> Izaya: you
could cheat - embed JS into your SVG
L250[03:18:38] <Izaya> ez
L251[03:18:39] <Inari> https://twitter.com/_777nyan/status/1086529162028945408
a glimpse of the future
L252[03:18:40] <MichiBot> Sat Jan 19
01:41:53 CST 2019 @_777nyan: どんぎつね撮影してるよ? <https://t.co/ZAmd3TxQna>
L253[03:18:55] <CompanionCube> then hope
you have a shitty interpreter
L254[03:19:17] <CompanionCube> but I can't
find anything that says SVG alone is TC
L255[03:21:19] <Inari> TC?
L256[03:21:25] <Inari> Oh
L257[03:21:27] <Inari> Turing complete
:P
L258[03:46:42] <Izaya> neat
L259[03:46:49] <Izaya> RTG is being worked
on for 1.12
L260[03:56:28] <Inari> I'm sure you lot
know that already, but apparently theres a Trump parody in Elite
Dangerous. Some assassination target NPC flying around, talking
about various things, including how they should build a wall around
the system and have everyone else pay for it
L261[03:56:46] <Kodos>
That's pretty hilarious
<Kodos>
That's pretty hilariousL262[03:56:50] <Inari> I wonder if thers a
1.12+ version of that ore gen mod Iw as using in the past
L263[04:07:38] <Skye> CompanionCube: talk
to @20kdc about freetype...
L264[04:07:44] *
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L267[04:29:57] <Kleadron>
the vex's toes
<Kleadron>
the vex's toesL268[04:47:38]
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L269[04:47:45] <lilybugged> hello?
L270[04:47:49] <lilybugged> is anyone
there
L271[04:47:51] <Forecaster>
%hello
<Forecaster>
%helloL272[04:47:52] <MichiBot> Forecaster:
Hello! Welcome to #oc! The one and only opencomputers channel!
Please ask your questions directly (dont ask to ask) and provide
error/code examples! (Use pastebin.com if theyre more than one
line!) Dont mind the random conversation you might have walked
into.
L273[04:47:59] <lilybugged> holy
moly
L274[04:48:04] <lilybugged> this is
neat
L275[04:51:31] <Joco223>
How do I run a program as a background process?
<Joco223>
How do I run a program as a background process?L276[04:54:46] <lilybugged> https://bit.ly/2szu2zk
L277[04:54:50] <lilybugged> that might
help
L278[04:55:10] <lilybugged> apparently
can't copy and paste links? this setup is low tier though
L279[04:59:57] <Forecaster>
in OC you paste with middle-mouse button or insert
<Forecaster>
in OC you paste with middle-mouse button or insertL280[05:00:13] <Forecaster>
%s/OC/OpenOS
<Forecaster>
%s/OC/OpenOSL281[05:00:15] <MichiBot>
<Forecaster> in OpenOS you paste with middle-mouse button or
insert
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L284[05:29:45] <lilybugged> oh sweet
thanks
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L287[07:00:39] <BrainStone>
%tonk
<BrainStone>
%tonkL288[07:00:41] <MichiBot> Waesucks!
BrainStone! You beat SoraFirestorm's previous record of <0! I
hope you're happy!
L289[07:00:42] <MichiBot> BrainStone's new
record is 4 hours, 44 minutes and 31 seconds! 4 hours, 44 minutes
and 31 seconds gained!
L290[07:00:58] <BrainStone>
%tonkstats
<BrainStone>
%tonkstatsL291[07:10:24] ⇦
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L294[08:21:24] <Bob>
Computronics has suppport for railcraft beta right
<Bob>
Computronics has suppport for railcraft beta rightL295[08:21:32] <Bob> where
it is hidden ?
<Bob> where
it is hidden ?L296[08:29:23] <Vexatos> https://files.vexatos.com/?dir=Computronics/dev
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L300[11:01:54] <Inari> https://www.chrisstucchio.com/blog/2013/write_some_fucking_code.html
o.o
L301[11:05:58] <Kodos>
Uhh
<Kodos>
UhhL302[11:21:16] ***
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L307[12:30:26] <BrainStone>
%tonk
<BrainStone>
%tonkL308[12:30:28] ⇦
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L309[12:30:40] <ZefTheFox>
Lol
<ZefTheFox>
LolL310[12:30:44] <BrainStone>
XD
<BrainStone>
XDL311[12:30:46] <ZefTheFox>
You killed michibot
<ZefTheFox>
You killed michibotL312[12:31:06] <BrainStone>
1000% intentional
<BrainStone>
1000% intentionalL313[12:38:36]
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L315[12:38:45] <Lizzy> %tonk
L316[12:39:22] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Lizzy,
you were not able to beat Mimiru's record of 5 hours, 38 minutes
and 10 seconds this time.
L317[12:39:23] <MichiBot> 30 seconds were
wasted! Missed by 5 hours, 37 minutes and 39 seconds!
L318[12:39:28] <Mimiru> lmao
L319[12:39:34] <Lizzy> :<
L320[12:39:50] <Mimiru> Gotta love that
delay.
L321[12:52:48] <Lizzy> i was meant to have
cleaned or started cleaning my room this weekend... so far that
hasn't happened
L322[12:58:07] <Mimiru> I've been working
pretty much constantly
L323[12:58:08] <Mimiru> \o/
L325[12:59:49] <Izaya> I made Pleroma and
Prosody talk to the same PostgreSQL database, in its own
container
L326[12:59:52] <Izaya> I thought that was
clever
L327[13:00:08] *
AmandaC boops Inari, meows
L328[13:11:15] *
AmandaC goes to read the new chapter that MichiBot should be
reminding her about sometime today
L329[13:22:02] <ZefTheFox>
@awoo what mod is that train from?
<ZefTheFox>
@awoo what mod is that train from?L330[13:23:25] <Lizzy> doesn't look like
Immersive Railroading so i'm guessing Train Mod
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L332[13:26:10] <awoo>
traincraft @ZefTheFox
<awoo>
traincraft @ZefTheFoxL333[13:47:45]
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L334[13:58:54] <Bob>
:fghjkl:
<Bob>
:fghjkl:L335[14:04:17] <awoo> 130
mods
<awoo> 130
modsL336[14:04:21] <awoo> w e
w
<awoo> w e
wL337[14:05:58] ⇦
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L339[14:23:59] <Z0idburg>
ok guys
<Z0idburg>
ok guysL340[14:24:03] <Z0idburg>
heading out into the blizzard
<Z0idburg>
heading out into the blizzardL341[14:24:08] <Z0idburg>
bbl
<Z0idburg>
bblL342[14:25:21] <Izaya> don't die
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L344[15:03:15] <Kodos> Can
you drift in IR?
<Kodos> Can
you drift in IR?L345[15:36:34] <Lizzian>
technically yes
<Lizzian>
technically yesL346[15:56:48] <xarses>
that looks dangerous
<xarses>
that looks dangerousL347[15:59:36] <xarses>
@Forecaster urgh, steam failed and did not make me aware of this,
looks like what I'm going to spend my afternoon doing
<xarses>
@Forecaster urgh, steam failed and did not make me aware of this,
looks like what I'm going to spend my afternoon doingL348[16:00:03] <Forecaster>
what?
<Forecaster>
what?L349[16:00:15] <xarses>
while_True_learn
<xarses>
while_True_learnL350[16:00:23] <Forecaster>
oh
<Forecaster>
ohL351[16:00:39] <Forecaster>
I linked that ages ago xD
<Forecaster>
I linked that ages ago xDL352[16:00:55] <xarses> at
4:46 am
<xarses> at
4:46 amL353[16:00:58] <xarses>
?
<xarses>
?L354[16:01:33] <xarses>
some people read the scrollback ?
<xarses>
some people read the scrollback ?L355[16:01:54] <Forecaster>
yeah that's great
<Forecaster>
yeah that's greatL356[16:02:01] <Forecaster>
you still pinged me with no context
<Forecaster>
you still pinged me with no contextL357[16:02:47] <Forecaster>
I can't connect that to something I said 10 hours ago
<Forecaster>
I can't connect that to something I said 10 hours agoL358[16:03:41] <xarses>
meh, I thought the steam was enough anyway thanks!
<xarses>
meh, I thought the steam was enough anyway thanks!L359[16:04:14] <Forecaster>
I'd completely forgotten I linked that here
<Forecaster>
I'd completely forgotten I linked that hereL361[16:44:03] <TheFox>
%tonk
<TheFox>
%tonkL362[16:44:04] <MichiBot> I'm sorry
TheFox, you were not able to beat Mimiru's record of 5 hours, 38
minutes and 10 seconds this time.
L363[16:44:06] <MichiBot> 4 hours, 4
minutes and 42 seconds were wasted! Missed by 1 hour, 33 minutes
and 28 seconds!
L364[16:44:22] <TheFox>
Well that is truly unfortunate
<TheFox>
Well that is truly unfortunateL365[16:58:54] <Inari> New business
idea
L366[16:58:56] <Inari> Make mini
donuts
L367[16:59:02] <Inari> Use them as
sprinkles on ddonuts
L368[17:11:20] <MichiBot> AmandaC
REMINDER: Read about the meeting between a panther and a
greif-struck woman
L369[17:23:31] <Ben> Zef
made another nice OC Case ?
<Ben> Zef
made another nice OC Case ?L371[17:29:11] ⇦
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L372[17:35:35] <Izaya> cute sun
L373[17:50:08] <ZefTheFox>
Yes
<ZefTheFox>
YesL374[17:50:31] <ZefTheFox>
It's the most detailed one I've made yet
<ZefTheFox>
It's the most detailed one I've made yetL375[17:50:33] <Kleadron>
looks like a cool pc case
<Kleadron>
looks like a cool pc caseL376[17:50:39] <ZefTheFox>
And **its literally a cube**
<ZefTheFox>
And **its literally a cube**L377[17:50:46] <Kleadron>
does it show cards inside it
<Kleadron>
does it show cards inside itL378[17:50:58] <ZefTheFox>
No, there's no place to even see inside
<ZefTheFox>
No, there's no place to even see insideL379[17:50:59] <Kleadron>
and does it have spinning fans
<Kleadron>
and does it have spinning fansL380[17:51:02] <Kleadron>
oh
<Kleadron>
ohL381[17:51:05] <Kleadron>
sad
<Kleadron>
sadL382[17:51:08] <Kleadron>
but cool
<Kleadron>
but coolL383[17:51:12] <ZefTheFox>
There are no fans that would be seen from the outside
<ZefTheFox>
There are no fans that would be seen from the outsideL384[17:51:58] <Inari> AmandaC / payonel:
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/344256550640287755/536693916293136394/50297755_2533657373317036_8963097203400769536_o.png?width=901&height=676
L385[17:58:32] <Izaya> Fans are behind the
cute covers
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L389[19:36:45] <ComputerEric> Does anyone know of an
upgrade I can add to a robot that can scan blocks that are not
directly next to it? Like in a mod or something?
<ComputerEric> Does anyone know of an
upgrade I can add to a robot that can scan blocks that are not
directly next to it? Like in a mod or something?L390[19:37:21] <Ben>
depends on the informations you need from that block
<Ben>
depends on the informations you need from that blockL391[19:37:26] <Ben>
computronics adds some upgrades
<Ben>
computronics adds some upgradesL392[19:40:08] <ComputerEric> Im trying to make an auto
mining robot so I need it to be long ranged and get the block
id
<ComputerEric> Im trying to make an auto
mining robot so I need it to be long ranged and get the block
idL393[19:40:47] <ComputerEric> If the component is in block
form that fine to
<ComputerEric> If the component is in block
form that fine toL394[19:40:48] <Ben> doubt
that there is anything
<Ben> doubt
that there is anythingL395[19:40:58] <ComputerEric> Well darn
<ComputerEric> Well darnL396[19:41:04] <ComputerEric> Thanks for helping tho
<ComputerEric> Thanks for helping thoL397[19:41:17] <SF-MC> Why do you need it
to be able to see more than a block ahead?
L398[19:42:10] <Ben> seeing
one block ahead is pretty useless for a mining robot
<Ben> seeing
one block ahead is pretty useless for a mining robotL399[19:42:19] <Ben> as it
takes longer to scan than to mine or walk around
<Ben> as it
takes longer to scan than to mine or walk aroundL400[19:42:33] <ComputerEric> I want it to be able to
detect an ore vein nearby I guess I could do a stripe mining
robot
<ComputerEric> I want it to be able to
detect an ore vein nearby I guess I could do a stripe mining
robotL401[19:42:47] <Ben>
^^
<Ben>
^^L402[19:42:55] <SF-MC> yeah, just do a
quarry/strip mine robot
L403[19:42:59] <Ben> if you
have actually additions, the drill is pretty cheap and can mine 5x5
area
<Ben> if you
have actually additions, the drill is pretty cheap and can mine 5x5
areaL404[19:43:12] <SF-MC> Trying to write a
smart program to do that would probably be too hard IMO
L405[19:43:58] <ComputerEric> Well I love program and
thought it would be fun to have hundreds of them. I just wanted an
alternative to void mining
<ComputerEric> Well I love program and
thought it would be fun to have hundreds of them. I just wanted an
alternative to void miningL406[19:45:23] <ComputerEric> Are there any other thing
that a robot can aculay be useful for? I cloud try to make an auto
villager trading system
<ComputerEric> Are there any other thing
that a robot can aculay be useful for? I cloud try to make an auto
villager trading systemL407[19:46:54] <Ben> a lot
of stuff
<Ben> a lot
of stuffL408[19:47:01] <Ben> but
that all depends on what you need/want in the game
<Ben> but
that all depends on what you need/want in the gameL409[19:47:14] <SF-MC> Like, it's possible
to write a logistics system from scratch
L410[19:47:20] <SF-MC> Almost on par with
AE
L411[19:48:29] <ComputerEric> A love doing a lot of stuff
with the computers by them selves but is there anything that only
the robot can do? I made a robot that can solve a maze once
<ComputerEric> A love doing a lot of stuff
with the computers by them selves but is there anything that only
the robot can do? I made a robot that can solve a maze onceL412[19:49:12] <SF-MC> Depends on what you
have mods-wise in whatever pack you're playing
L413[19:49:40] <Ben>
^^
<Ben>
^^L414[19:49:58] <Kleadron>
anything that only a robot can do? robot stuff
<Kleadron>
anything that only a robot can do? robot stuffL415[19:50:01] <Ben> you
can automate a lot of other mods with robots
<Ben> you
can automate a lot of other mods with robotsL416[19:50:49] <ComputerEric> I have a lot of mods and am
willing to get any more, but most stuff a can automate with a
stationary computer Eh, just was wondering
<ComputerEric> I have a lot of mods and am
willing to get any more, but most stuff a can automate with a
stationary computer Eh, just was wonderingL417[19:52:47] <ComputerEric> If only drone could use the
self-destruct upgrade form computronics, then I cloud make attack
drones
<ComputerEric> If only drone could use the
self-destruct upgrade form computronics, then I cloud make attack
dronesL418[19:53:15] <Ben> can
they drop tnt blocks?
<Ben> can
they drop tnt blocks?L419[19:53:16] <Ben>
xD
<Ben>
xDL420[19:54:40] <ComputerEric> Hmm maybe they can place it
and then light it
<ComputerEric> Hmm maybe they can place it
and then light itL421[19:54:52] <SF-MC> If you have a
Redstone card
L422[19:55:45] <ComputerEric> It could hold flint and
steal not sure if it can use it
<ComputerEric> It could hold flint and
steal not sure if it can use itL423[19:55:55] <SF-MC> You could just use
a Redstone card
L424[19:57:25] <ComputerEric> Yeah, seams much
easier
<ComputerEric> Yeah, seams much
easierL425[19:58:16] <ComputerEric> Can you lead a player with
the leash upgrade?
<ComputerEric> Can you lead a player with
the leash upgrade?L426[20:09:47] <ComputerEric> Apparently not as far as I
can tell
<ComputerEric> Apparently not as far as I
can tellL427[20:19:49] <ComputerEric> Any good addon mods that any
of you would recommend? So far I have Computronics OpenSecurity
OpenPrinters And OpenGlasses
<ComputerEric> Any good addon mods that any
of you would recommend? So far I have Computronics OpenSecurity
OpenPrinters And OpenGlassesL428[20:20:03] <SF-MC> That's all that I
have
L429[20:20:08] <Ben>
OCDevices ?
<Ben>
OCDevices ?L430[20:20:46] <Mimiru> OpenLights,
OpenFM, and OpenSensors! (Might as well have the other 3 of mine
:P)
L431[20:21:07] <Ben> and
OpenEntity
<Ben> and
OpenEntityL432[20:21:13] <Ben> so you
can stick a computer on a silverfish
<Ben> so you
can stick a computer on a silverfishL433[20:22:58] <ComputerEric> Oh wow! Theys all look
awesome! Going to get them now, also Mimiru dosn't open securit
already have a sensor? What does open sensors add?
<ComputerEric> Oh wow! Theys all look
awesome! Going to get them now, also Mimiru dosn't open securit
already have a sensor? What does open sensors add?L434[20:23:19] <Mimiru> Right now? It adds
just a world sensor, lets you get world data.
L435[20:23:56] <Mimiru> I should update
OpenLights... I thought I had already but it's not 1.12
L436[20:24:11] <Mimiru> and opensensors is
1.7... lol
L437[20:24:28] <ComputerEric> Oh darn, I have all my mods
on 1.12
<ComputerEric> Oh darn, I have all my mods
on 1.12L438[20:27:18] <ComputerEric> Also I have a lot of
experience coding in C++ Lua Python GML, is making a mod for
Minecraft with java hard? Like making an addon for open
computers
<ComputerEric> Also I have a lot of
experience coding in C++ Lua Python GML, is making a mod for
Minecraft with java hard? Like making an addon for open
computersL439[20:27:52] <ComputerEric> Because I would love to make
an sensor for robotic mining, it would have to be expensive
tho
<ComputerEric> Because I would love to make
an sensor for robotic mining, it would have to be expensive
thoL440[20:27:59] <Ben> no,
its easy imho
<Ben> no,
its easy imhoL441[20:29:09] <Ben> making
an oc addon is probably one of the hardest minecraft modding tasks
?
<Ben> making
an oc addon is probably one of the hardest minecraft modding tasks
?L442[20:29:22] <Ben> as its
not always clear what api methods you need to call to archive
something
<Ben> as its
not always clear what api methods you need to call to archive
somethingL443[20:30:09] <ComputerEric> Hmm ok im going to look into
it more
<ComputerEric> Hmm ok im going to look into
it moreL444[20:39:35] ⇦
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L446[20:53:46] <AmandaC> I've not bothered
reading the whole backlog, but the geolyzer does something like
that. It doesn't say "there's a `Minecraft:iron_ore`
here" though, you've got to do some heuristics of your
own
L447[20:54:32] <AmandaC> (re earlier talk
of finding one veins)
L448[20:54:43] <AmandaC> Ore*
L449[20:55:18] <AmandaC> %8ball boot back
up to download new chapters and setup alert for story?
L450[20:55:18] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Without
a doubt
L451[21:24:42] <SF-MC> The Robot API page
mentions being able to equip items
L452[21:24:51] <SF-MC> But there is no
'equip' or similar function
L453[21:24:56] <SF-MC> What am I
missing?
L454[21:26:44] <Mimiru> It's in the item
controller, IIRC.. though I may be 100% wrong.
L455[21:27:27] <SF-MC> it is
L456[21:27:28] <SF-MC> thanks
L457[21:27:46] <SF-MC> should be better
documented :(
L458[21:31:41] <AmandaC> %choose ☢️ or
?
L459[21:31:43] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Once
you get a taste of ☢️ you can't stop.
L460[21:33:52] <ZefTheFox>
Nuclear war?
<ZefTheFox>
Nuclear war?L461[21:41:14] ⇦
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L462[21:54:58] <AmandaC> Of course, what
else should an extra-dimensional cat goddesses to do for fun in
this desolate rock
L463[22:09:20] <AmandaC> Mimiru: have you
had a chance to try either of the stories I linked?
L464[22:11:37] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L465[22:11:38] <MichiBot> I'm sorry
CompanionCube, you were not able to beat Mimiru's record of 5
hours, 38 minutes and 10 seconds this time.
L466[22:11:39] <MichiBot> 5 hours, 27
minutes and 33 seconds were wasted! Missed by 10 minutes and 37
seconds!
L467[22:11:42] <CompanionCube> fuck
me
L468[22:11:51] <ZefTheFox>
I'll pass
<ZefTheFox>
I'll passL469[22:12:07] <AmandaC> No thanks, I
prefer women
L470[22:12:58] *
AmandaC curls up in Temia's lap, dozes, unable to fight off the
sleep demons any further
L471[22:13:09] <AmandaC> Night nerds
L472[22:13:30] *
Temia petpets
L473[22:23:39] <TheFox>
Zef, such a heckin fur to answer a question like that
<TheFox>
Zef, such a heckin fur to answer a question like thatL474[23:11:57]
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L475[23:12:29] <SF-MC> oh btw, not sure if
I said it eariler
L476[23:12:48] <SF-MC> but thanks for
helping Mimiru
L477[23:43:14] <Mimiru> np SF-MC