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L1[00:01:57] * CompanionCube has been lazy and still has to upgrade to bedrock's poki version
L2[00:02:08] <Adorable-Catgirl> loads are like the zorya-modules/*boot.lua files
L3[00:02:12] <Adorable-Catgirl> *loaders
L4[00:02:30] <CompanionCube> luckily it's easier for me than most
L5[00:02:56] <Adorable-Catgirl> ok
L6[00:03:14] <Adorable-Catgirl> compiling bedrock doesn't take that long
L7[00:03:19] <Adorable-Catgirl> even with a segfaulting gcc
L8[00:03:35] <CompanionCube> that's the easiest bit
L9[00:04:01] <Adorable-Catgirl> you know what takes forever tho?
L10[00:04:12] <Adorable-Catgirl> compiling the linux kernel
L11[00:04:22] <Adorable-Catgirl> well and gcc
L12[00:04:24] <CompanionCube> only if you build everything under the sun
L13[00:04:44] <Adorable-Catgirl> i cba to configure every little thing because i am
L14[00:04:47] <CompanionCube> gcc does take a while...but it has an excuse in that you do it 3 times.
L15[00:04:48] <Adorable-Catgirl> super lazy
L16[00:05:20] <Adorable-Catgirl> i just changed a few things and called it a day
L17[00:05:51] <Adorable-Catgirl> i really should strip down my kernel but >effort
L18[00:06:17] <CompanionCube> make local(mod|yes)config+modprobed-db are your friends
L19[00:07:07] <Adorable-Catgirl> and with my desktop
L20[00:07:22] <Adorable-Catgirl> i end up removing and adding hardware each time i use the damn thing
L21[00:08:50] <CompanionCube> (re: my lazy upgrade, thank god for clones that will make it not a PITA)
L22[00:12:48] <Adorable-Catgirl> ugh
L23[00:12:55] <Adorable-Catgirl> ofc i'm having trouble compiling ovm
L24[00:12:59] <Adorable-Catgirl> *ocvm
L25[00:14:35] <Adorable-Catgirl> tomorrow, i gotta rewrite the base of Tsuki's kernel
L26[00:14:45] <Adorable-Catgirl> but I am too tired for that tonight
L27[00:16:13] <payonel> %tonk
L28[00:16:14] <MichiBot> I'm sorry payonel, you were not able to beat evg-zhabotinsky's record of 2 hours, 39 minutes and 25 seconds this time.
L29[00:16:15] <MichiBot> 1 hour, 27 minutes and 39 seconds were wasted! Missed by 1 hour, 11 minutes and 46 seconds!
L30[00:16:16] <CompanionCube> shouldn't be too difficult to compile
L31[00:16:20] <payonel> HA!
L32[00:16:24] <payonel> stupid tonk
L33[00:16:54] <payonel> Adorable-Catgirl: i'm the ocvm author, what are you trying to compile it on?
L34[00:22:09] <CompanionCube> Izaya: so apparently idea and netbeans aer
L35[00:22:18] <CompanionCube> *are things on haiku now
L36[00:26:06] <Adorable-Catgirl> payonel: Arch Linux, GCC 8.2.1
L37[00:27:24] <Adorable-Catgirl> I'm getting a undefined reference to `lua_rotate' error
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L39[00:34:07] <Adorable-Catgirl> well i fixed it by modifying the makefile
L40[00:34:27] <Adorable-Catgirl> man, it's 01:34
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L42[01:06:04] <Kleadron> i attempted to wrangle the cable spaghetti in my basement
L43[01:06:23] <Kleadron> its now slightly less annoying to look at
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L45[01:09:19] <Thisguy_> Is this normal? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/451219342286258206/533905171370213376/oc-editflash.mp4
L46[01:13:38] <CompanionCube> Doesn't look it.
L47[01:14:44] <Thisguy_> Figures. Irritating. Anything I can do about it, figure? Ever seen it before?
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L49[01:15:58] <Thisguy_> If I change the font renderer to texture from hexfont, you think it'll help?
L50[01:18:11] <CompanionCube> idk
L51[01:57:00] <Kleadron> Thisguy_: it looks like an issue with the way the operating system is displaying the text, not a font rendering issue
L52[01:57:18] <Kleadron> but you can try anyways
L53[02:00:10] <Thisguy_> I found out it doesn't happen if I move the cursor a bit into the line - when whitespace is just right of the cursor, that's when it happens. Weird.
L54[02:01:13] <Kleadron> yea that sounds like an operating system issue
L55[02:02:42] <Thisguy_> To be fair, it does
L56[02:38:55] <Kleadron> i present an idea
L57[02:39:12] <Forecaster> I reject your idea!
L58[02:39:14] <Forecaster> bam
L59[02:39:49] <Kleadron> caddy loading cd-ram drives in OpenComputers http://tinyurl.com/ybpdoyf8
L60[02:40:08] <Kleadron> CD-RAM being based on DVD-RAM
L61[02:40:21] <Kleadron> which dvd-ram is a real thing
L62[02:40:37] <Kleadron> its basically a dvd that acts like a hard drive platter
L63[02:40:53] <Kleadron> but for opencomputers we could invent CD-RAM
L64[02:41:08] <Kleadron> and to go with it, cartridge loading CD-RAM drives
L65[02:42:12] <Kleadron> what do you guys think
L66[02:42:48] <MichiBot> Vexatos REMINDER: make take accept iterables
L67[02:44:55] <Kleadron> yay nobody cares
L68[02:44:58] <Kleadron> im upset now
L69[02:45:30] <Forecaster> welcome to group chat when nobody is here
L70[02:46:06] <Kleadron> you are here though, do you think my idea is dumb or cool
L71[02:48:44] <Kleadron> nvm
L72[02:49:21] <Forecaster> would it just be a different type of ram?
L73[02:49:24] <Forecaster> or what would it do
L74[02:49:41] <Kleadron> its not like computer memory
L75[02:49:46] <Kleadron> as in ram sticks
L76[02:50:13] <Kleadron> its Random Access Memory as in the computer can put its own file system on it and read any point of it
L77[02:50:36] <Kleadron> if you look up DVD-RAM on wikipedia you will get a better idea
L78[02:51:08] <Kleadron> its basically a disc that has sectors on it and acts like a hard drive platter
L79[02:51:41] <Kleadron> my idea was that there could be CD-RAM drives that load with cartridges
L80[02:51:57] <Kleadron> and they could store a lot more than floppies
L81[02:52:35] <Forecaster> people would probably like that as an addon
L82[02:52:45] <Kleadron> i was thinking that too
L83[02:52:56] <Kleadron> or even zip drives and zip disks
L84[02:56:16] * Izaya is also for addon storage
L85[02:56:21] <Izaya> 64k flash cards pls
L86[03:07:36] <Mimiru> %tell Vexatos [00:42:30] <MichiBot> Vexatos REMINDER: make take accept iterables
L87[03:07:36] <MichiBot> Mimiru: Vexatos will be notified of this message when next seen.
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L90[04:03:39] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L91[04:32:58] <Mettaton_Fab> %tonk
L92[04:33:00] <MichiBot> Waesucks! Mettaton_Fab! You beat evg-zhabotinsky's previous record of 2 hours, 39 minutes and 25 seconds! I hope you're happy!
L93[04:33:01] <MichiBot> Mettaton_Fab's new record is 4 hours, 16 minutes and 44 seconds! 1 hour, 37 minutes and 18 seconds gained!
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L95[05:08:24] <Inari> Boobp
L96[05:08:38] <Inari> AmandaC: literate cat!
L97[05:09:49] <Inari> I'm nto into superheroes, buts thats neat https://imgur.com/gallery/EOPqOg0
L98[05:12:51] <Inari> Temia: https://imgur.com/gallery/QHoNxsF
L99[05:12:54] <Inari> Its so cuuuute
L100[05:13:46] <Lizzy> %tonk
L101[05:13:46] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Lizzy, you were not able to beat Mettaton_Fab's record of 4 hours, 16 minutes and 44 seconds this time.
L102[05:13:47] <MichiBot> 40 minutes and 47 seconds were wasted! Missed by 3 hours, 35 minutes and 56 seconds!
L103[05:13:53] <Lizzy> ah fuck
L104[05:14:06] <Inari> Lizzy: close
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L106[06:50:09] <stephan48> atleast the 4 infront was correct?
L107[07:24:38] <Vexatos> .
L108[08:02:00] <Vexatos> yay more stuff in selene
L109[08:02:13] <Vexatos> thanks Mimiru >_>
L110[08:09:09] <Forecaster> :D
L111[08:09:33] <Vexatos> now to recompile michibot
L112[08:09:35] <Vexatos> :^)
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L114[09:04:19] <Inari> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/344256550640287755/533997607928856617/3d8be57.jpg?width=677&height=676
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L119[10:02:14] <awoo> so i can't connect to the IRC.
L120[10:02:42] <Forecaster> you're probably doing it wrong
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L122[10:04:57] <awoo> restarting networkmanager worked lmao
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L124[10:06:50] <Izaya> lennart'd
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L126[10:07:42] <Adorable-Catgirl> cool
L127[10:07:54] <Adorable-Catgirl> also yea
L128[10:08:00] <Adorable-Catgirl> S Y S T E M D
L129[10:08:09] <Adorable-Catgirl> the best of the best
L130[10:09:10] <Adorable-Catgirl> also mfw some guy just joined the discord to put some spam link on there and instantly got banned
L131[10:10:14] <Skye> I approve of your nickname
L132[10:11:47] <Adorable-Catgirl> thanks ig
L133[10:12:16] <Adorable-Catgirl> ngl, been a while since i've really used irc
L134[10:12:38] <Adorable-Catgirl> i saw something about using ANSI escapes
L135[10:15:56] <Adorable-Catgirl> h u h
L136[10:16:49] <Skye> IRC doesn't have ANSI
L137[10:16:58] <Skye> but it has got it's own colour code system
L138[10:17:28] <Adorable-Catgirl> i was just reading something about how mIRC will translate ANSI escapes to colors lmao
L139[10:18:32] <Skye> hmm
L140[10:19:17] <Adorable-Catgirl> >tfw she can't greentext in IRC
L141[10:21:05] <Adorable-Catgirl> 2009: can it run crysis; 2019: can it run any news site
L142[10:21:28] <ben_mkiv> anyone know what happens internal when a multiblock screeen gets extended? does it create a new component node internal or is the old one used?
L143[10:21:28] <Skye> that was greentext though... :P
L144[10:21:31] <Izaya> 2029: can it run a document viewer
L145[10:23:00] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEfHFsfGXjs&feature=em-uploademail thats cool
L146[10:23:02] <MichiBot> The most unexpected answer to a counting puzzle | length: 5m 13s | Likes: 622 Dislikes: 6 Views: 4,021 | by 3Blue1Brown | Published On 13/1/2019
L147[10:23:28] <Adorable-Catgirl> 2129: can it run echo
L148[10:24:02] <Skye> 2038: can it be run a clock?
L149[10:24:24] <Adorable-Catgirl> i had a genius idea for an OC thing
L150[10:24:27] <Inari> Skye: heh
L151[10:24:57] <Adorable-Catgirl> a lil archive format
L152[10:24:59] <Adorable-Catgirl> ya know?
L153[10:28:34] <Forecaster> archive format?
L154[10:28:54] <Adorable-Catgirl> yea
L155[10:29:27] <Adorable-Catgirl> like tar or something
L156[10:29:55] <Forecaster> but why
L157[10:30:19] <Skye> there are implementations of tar
L158[10:30:23] <Skye> which aren't very well implemented
L159[10:30:24] <Adorable-Catgirl> yea i know
L160[10:30:43] <Adorable-Catgirl> but i was also thinking there's implementations of like
L161[10:30:52] <Adorable-Catgirl> FAT16 iirc
L162[10:30:55] <Skye> I know Izaya worked on selef extracting installers?
L163[10:31:04] <Skye> I think it's in MagickOS?
L164[10:31:09] <Skye> or whatever it was called
L165[10:31:15] <Adorable-Catgirl> i made an archive format but that uh
L166[10:31:19] * Izaya pages t20kdc
L167[10:31:20] <Adorable-Catgirl> wouldn't work in OC
L168[10:31:42] <Adorable-Catgirl> it's a bit too complex for OC lmao
L169[10:31:49] * t20kdc yawns
L170[10:32:30] <Izaya> Most useful I've done recently is a repo installer
L171[10:32:46] <t20kdc> may I ask why I was paged
L172[10:32:47] <Izaya> So you can make a disk with an oppm repo on it
L173[10:33:18] <Izaya> t20kdc: you did work on self-extracting installers for KOS NEO
L174[10:33:26] <Adorable-Catgirl> i just made myself a pretty nice self-installing bootloader
L175[10:37:24] <Skye> I need to work on an OS for OC
L176[10:38:39] <Adorable-Catgirl> same
L177[10:39:12] <Adorable-Catgirl> oh yeah i needed to clean up my OS's kernel to make it less horrible to write for
L178[10:40:14] <Skye> I made miniOS
L179[10:40:17] <Skye> but it's so bad
L180[10:41:16] <Adorable-Catgirl> ah, i never released mine
L181[10:41:32] <Adorable-Catgirl> i released by bootloader, posted it here twice iircv
L182[10:41:34] <Adorable-Catgirl> *iirc
L183[10:42:02] <Adorable-Catgirl> *my
L184[10:42:07] <Adorable-Catgirl> i can't english today
L185[10:46:44] <evg-zhabotinsky> Can anyone here explain why OC tablets can't persist across logouts, dimension changes, etc?
L186[10:47:30] <ben_mkiv> might be a bug? afaik they did persist fine in 1.7.10
L187[10:47:46] <Forecaster> they shut off when they're not in the hotbar of a player, that might be why?
L188[10:47:59] <evg-zhabotinsky> Not a bug per se, since it's plainly stated in the docs that they cant.
L189[10:48:58] <Skye> wait,they shut down? I thought they just suspended
L190[10:49:10] <evg-zhabotinsky> No, they don't seem to.
L191[10:49:19] <Skye> hrm
L192[10:49:20] <evg-zhabotinsky> Mine just survived being put in a chest.
L193[10:49:35] <evg-zhabotinsky> Also being thrown away and then picked up.
L194[10:50:00] <awoo> nice pfp by the way @Forecaster
L195[10:50:08] <evg-zhabotinsky> But logging out and back in reboots it.
L196[10:50:20] <Forecaster> thanks
L197[10:50:21] <Forecaster> :P
L198[10:50:40] <awoo> there are no g/u/ys on the internet
L199[10:51:02] <Skye> hah
L200[10:54:40] <Adorable-Catgirl> anyways
L201[10:55:11] <Adorable-Catgirl> my new kernel should support being passed arguments from Zorya or the like
L202[10:56:02] <Skye> evg-zhabotinsky, now that's odd... so it only reboots when you log out?
L203[10:58:00] <evg-zhabotinsky> I only checked single player for now. Quitting and reloading world reboots them. Throwing away / putting in a chest does not.
L204[11:00:09] <evg-zhabotinsky> Hm. Going to nether actually didn't reboot it. (I'm on 1.10.2 btw, OC built from git)
L205[11:00:45] <Skye> O_o
L206[11:01:01] <Skye> why doesn't it properly suspend
L207[11:01:30] <Adorable-Catgirl> so uh
L208[11:01:52] <Adorable-Catgirl> are there any other major OC OSes that don't use the standard init.lua besides Plan9K?
L209[11:02:33] <Skye> Izaya's OS
L210[11:02:40] <Skye> and t20kdc's OS
L211[11:02:50] <Skye> PsychOS and KittenOS
L212[11:03:11] <Forecaster> %tonk
L213[11:03:12] <MichiBot> Gadsbudlikins! Forecaster! You beat Mettaton_Fab's previous record of 4 hours, 16 minutes and 44 seconds! I hope you're happy!
L214[11:03:13] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 5 hours, 49 minutes and 25 seconds! 1 hour, 32 minutes and 40 seconds gained!
L215[11:03:25] <Izaya> The names seem uncomfortably representative
L216[11:04:17] <Forecaster> woo
L217[11:06:56] <evg-zhabotinsky> Hm. Leaving a running tablet in a chest for a while actually did reboot it.
L218[11:07:09] <Skye> hrmmm
L219[11:07:16] <Skye> tablets should be suspended
L220[11:07:20] <ben_mkiv> there might be a timeout
L221[11:07:45] <Forecaster> as far as I'm aware they will shut down if they're not in an active players hotbar for too long
L222[11:16:28] <Skye> feature suggestion time?
L223[11:20:35] <Inari> Skye: If you find someone to implement it
L224[11:20:37] <Inari> :D
L225[11:24:12] <evg-zhabotinsky> Leaving the tablet in inventory, hotbar or not, seems to keep it running.
L226[11:24:59] <Forecaster> hm, I remember taking it out of the hotbar causing it to shut off, but that's probably wrong then
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L229[11:44:39] <evg-zhabotinsky> Forecaster: It could have been fixed since then.
L230[11:45:41] <Forecaster> maybe
L231[11:55:33] <evg-zhabotinsky> In the meantime, I finally changed my MC launcher wrapper script to accept player nick instead of using hardcoded one. Now I can run multiple clients simultaneously! Can finally check how logging out affects tablets.
L232[11:56:13] <Killian_Flynn> hi
L233[11:56:15] <Killian_Flynn> im new
L234[11:56:21] <Forecaster> %hello
L235[11:56:22] <MichiBot> Forecaster: Hello! Welcome to #oc! The one and only opencomputers channel! Please ask your questions directly (dont ask to ask) and provide error/code examples! (Use pastebin.com if theyre more than one line!) Dont mind the random conversation you might have walked into.
L236[11:56:54] <Killian_Flynn> i want to make a program to find players or bases in the world
L237[11:57:07] <Killian_Flynn> but i cant find anything right now
L238[11:57:21] <Forecaster> what are you using to do that?
L239[11:57:38] <Killian_Flynn> thats what i need help with
L240[11:57:46] <evg-zhabotinsky> So... There seems to be a timeout of sorts. When it triggers, if a tablet isn't in some logged in player's inventory then it gets killed.
L241[11:57:50] <Adorable-Catgirl> wait can I use OC to control ICBM launchers? i've forgotten and I don't wanna boot my PC up right now
L242[11:57:52] <Killian_Flynn> the only other way is using the debug card
L243[11:58:25] <Killian_Flynn> i was thinking of using a tablet
L244[11:58:26] <Forecaster> I think ICBM has OC support
L245[11:58:46] <Killian_Flynn> and dropping it into another players inventory
L246[11:59:07] <Forecaster> computronics has a radar upgrade
L247[11:59:30] <Forecaster> you may be able to put that in a drone and have it track people or something
L248[11:59:55] <evg-zhabotinsky> Killian_Flynn: That's sneaky! A rootkit in tablet's eeprom could track its current owner without them ever noticing!
L249[12:00:14] <Adorable-Catgirl> I need to grab computronics for my modpack lmao
L250[12:00:25] <Killian_Flynn> thanks bro
L251[12:00:30] <Killian_Flynn> ill look it up
L252[12:00:49] <Killian_Flynn> anything else u can give me
L253[12:00:50] <Adorable-Catgirl> So far, me and a few friends have had a nuclear war in deep space
L254[12:01:02] <Killian_Flynn> im playing on FTAM
L255[12:01:07] <Killian_Flynn> u might have heard of it
L256[12:01:20] <Killian_Flynn> on the technic launcher
L257[12:01:42] <Forecaster> nope
L258[12:01:45] <Forecaster> never heard of that
L259[12:02:04] <Killian_Flynn> its the biggest faction server on it
L260[12:02:09] <Killian_Flynn> With guns and stuff
L261[12:02:11] <Killian_Flynn> and planes
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L263[12:02:17] <Killian_Flynn> and a bunch of tech mods
L264[12:02:32] <AmandaC> and it runs at 4tps
L265[12:02:48] <AmandaC> ( Or so I assume )
L266[12:02:52] <Adorable-Catgirl> kek
L267[12:03:03] <Adorable-Catgirl> can't run any worse than a gmod server with 200 people
L268[12:03:08] <Adorable-Catgirl> and WAC
L269[12:03:13] <Adorable-Catgirl> and ACF
L270[12:03:46] <Adorable-Catgirl> man, it was fun to "tac nuke" someone
L271[12:04:35] <Adorable-Catgirl> i mean, it'd suck to just be orbital strike'd with 13 203mm space howitzers but still, it was fun for me
L272[12:07:53] <Bob> mhm
L273[12:10:48] <Killian_Flynn> anyone willing to help me
L274[12:11:01] <Killian_Flynn> with some coding stuff
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L276[12:12:21] <Adorable-Catgirl> ☢ CAUTION!! ☢
L277[12:12:33] <Adorable-Catgirl> https://github.com/transatomic/reactor
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L279[12:12:50] <Adorable-Catgirl> when are we going to build a nuclear reactor
L280[12:14:27] <Killian_Flynn> is there a way to get the location of other computers in the world
L281[12:16:45] <evg-zhabotinsky> A reactor? Why would you need such a thing? Need to power a time machine or something?
L282[12:18:22] <evg-zhabotinsky> Killian_Flynn: I don't think you can even get your own coordinates, actually.
L283[12:19:27] <evg-zhabotinsky> Navigation upgrade gives coordinates of robot/drone, but has rather limited range. (Same as map it was crafted with.)
L284[12:19:37] <Adorable-Catgirl> i mean cmon
L285[12:19:47] <Killian_Flynn> shame
L286[12:19:53] <Adorable-Catgirl> i just wanna name it the okuu 1 for xd le may may
L287[12:20:08] <Killian_Flynn> is it possible in any way
L288[12:20:25] <evg-zhabotinsky> Network card can be used for triangulation, but its range is just 400 blocks.
L289[12:20:47] <Killian_Flynn> so if someone has a computer in a base
L290[12:20:56] <Killian_Flynn> can i use it to find that computer
L291[12:21:01] <Forecaster> no
L292[12:21:10] <Adorable-Catgirl> anyways i should probably start my PC up
L293[12:21:16] <Forecaster> not unless it responds to your network messages
L294[12:21:22] <evg-zhabotinsky> That computer would have to reply to your pings.
L295[12:21:28] <Killian_Flynn> okay
L296[12:21:37] <Killian_Flynn> what if i gave them a tablet
L297[12:21:43] <Killian_Flynn> that replied to my pings
L298[12:21:56] <Forecaster> you could ping the tablet and figure out it's position yeah
L299[12:22:17] <Killian_Flynn> could u give me some info on how to do that
L300[12:22:40] <Forecaster> when you receive a modem message it tells you the distance it traveled from the source
L301[12:22:50] <Forecaster> that's it
L302[12:23:04] <Forecaster> look up triangulation
L303[12:23:08] <Killian_Flynn> okay
L304[12:23:16] <Killian_Flynn> tnx
L305[12:23:22] <Killian_Flynn> what is the range on triangulation
L306[12:23:37] <AmandaC> modem range
L307[12:23:37] <Forecaster> ...
L308[12:23:49] <Forecaster> triangulation is not an OC thing.
L309[12:23:58] <AmandaC> tranfulation is just maths
L310[12:24:02] <Forecaster> yes
L311[12:24:06] <AmandaC> trangulation*
L312[12:24:08] <Killian_Flynn> okay
L313[12:24:16] <Forecaster> it's range is the range of whatever equipment you have
L314[12:24:25] <evg-zhabotinsky> T2 wireless card has a range of 400 blocks in clear sight.
L315[12:24:33] <Forecaster> yep
L316[12:24:38] <AmandaC> but that's configurable
L317[12:24:47] <Killian_Flynn> okay tnx
L318[12:24:57] <Forecaster> if they're on a server it's probably the defaults
L319[12:25:00] <evg-zhabotinsky> Not configurable on 3rd party server
L320[12:25:19] <Killian_Flynn> okay
L321[12:25:34] <Killian_Flynn> is there any other way to find people or is that it then
L322[12:25:46] <Forecaster> that's pretty much it
L323[12:27:04] <evg-zhabotinsky> There's radar upgrade in Computronics, but its default maximum range is 8 blocks.
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L325[12:28:08] <Killian_Flynn> shame i though there would be a good way of doing it
L326[12:30:44] <evg-zhabotinsky> Is there a good way to track people in real world? If not, there would be none in OC either.
L327[12:31:31] <evg-zhabotinsky> GPS is the only one I know of, but you would have to launch the satellites first.
L328[12:32:26] <awoo> that's a great idea
L329[12:33:26] <Forecaster> *cough* Vexatos *cough*
L330[12:33:58] <evg-zhabotinsky> BTW, is there any mod that provides long range transmitters? I mean something like real-life GPS. It has huge range, but it is very weak and its speed is miserable.
L331[12:34:12] <Forecaster> there's lasers
L332[12:34:19] <Vexatos> @Forecaster man I wish I had the motivation to actually implement the satellites
L333[12:34:25] <Forecaster> which has really long range, but they're directional
L334[12:34:57] <Vexatos> but satellites will first require radio antennae
L335[12:35:24] <Vexatos> maybe I'll just use PSF instead D:
L336[12:35:28] <Vexatos> (I don't want to)
L337[12:35:35] <Forecaster> PSF?
L338[12:35:41] <Vexatos> Practical Space Fireworks
L339[12:35:42] <Vexatos> duh
L340[12:35:58] <Forecaster> never heard of
L341[12:36:13] <Vexatos> launches satellites into spadce
L342[12:36:15] <Vexatos> space*
L343[12:36:22] <Vexatos> well PSF would still require me to implement radio signalling
L344[12:36:30] <Vexatos> I even got the maths figured out
L345[12:36:35] <Vexatos> I just need time an motivation :^)
L346[12:36:42] <Forecaster> could also use Advanced Rocketry :>
L347[12:36:44] <Killian_Flynn> oh wait
L348[12:36:58] <Killian_Flynn> i could just use a wireless network card
L349[12:37:05] <Killian_Flynn> then i can change the range right?
L350[12:37:18] <Forecaster> you can't exceed the configured max range
L351[12:37:20] <AmandaC> up to a maximum range configured bu the server
L352[12:37:29] <Killian_Flynn> oh okay
L353[12:37:34] <Killian_Flynn> so is that 400 then
L354[12:37:40] <Forecaster> probably
L355[12:37:55] <evg-zhabotinsky> In clear sight only.
L356[12:37:56] <Forecaster> check the config files in the modpack
L357[12:38:12] <Forecaster> yeah, non-air blocks reduce the distance
L358[12:38:17] <Killian_Flynn> oh
L359[12:38:21] <evg-zhabotinsky> A really deep underground base might not even be reachable from surface.
L360[12:38:55] <Vexatos> you can also theoretically transmit data via PGD
L361[12:39:02] <evg-zhabotinsky> So you would have to track that trojan tablet with a drone or something.
L362[12:39:12] <Forecaster> Pudgy Guard Dogs?
L363[12:39:24] <Vexatos> Phoenicopterous Garden Decoration
L364[12:39:27] <Vexatos> commoners call them flamingos
L365[12:39:38] <awoo> oh this will take a while http://tinyurl.com/ya3jyn54
L366[12:39:59] <Killian_Flynn> what about the linked card then
L367[12:40:15] <awoo> or not
L368[12:40:41] <evg-zhabotinsky> Only normal wireless cards provide distance of received messages.
L369[12:41:04] <evg-zhabotinsky> BTW, is this distance "raw" or reduced according to solid blocks in signal path?
L370[12:41:12] <Vexatos> it's not a distance
L371[12:41:16] <Vexatos> it's a signal strength
L372[12:41:20] <Vexatos> walls block some of it
L373[12:43:58] <evg-zhabotinsky> It's called "distance" in the manuals :P
L374[12:44:07] <evg-zhabotinsky> Thus the question.
L375[12:45:31] <awoo> next time me and a few friends are playing with our modpack
L376[12:45:39] <awoo> we're totally using an amplified world
L377[12:46:16] <Killian_Flynn> what can the internet card do
L378[12:46:24] <Vexatos> it can inter your net
L379[12:46:37] <awoo> because it makes bases harder to nuke
L380[12:46:38] <awoo> and
L381[12:46:41] <awoo> because it looks cool
L382[12:47:02] <Kleadron> you better make a cool looking base in a world like that
L383[12:47:03] <evg-zhabotinsky> Internet card connects to the real internet over TCP / HTTP.
L384[12:47:29] <Killian_Flynn> so is there some way i can get real world coords from a tablet
L385[12:47:33] <evg-zhabotinsky> I always use apmlified worlds. The normal flat ones are just so boring!
L386[12:47:37] <Vexatos> yes there is
L387[12:47:42] <Killian_Flynn> okay
L388[12:47:55] <Killian_Flynn> do the internet cards work in tablets
L389[12:47:58] <Vexatos> of course
L390[12:48:03] <awoo> i'd make somehwere like this my base http://tinyurl.com/y9zrvygr
L391[12:48:07] <evg-zhabotinsky> Which "real" world do you mean?
L392[12:48:07] <Killian_Flynn> actually
L393[12:48:19] <awoo> and have it stocked with plenty of antimatter missiles
L394[12:48:27] <Killian_Flynn> i just mean the coordinates of the world
L395[12:48:29] <Killian_Flynn> where it is
L396[12:48:33] <evg-zhabotinsky> You aren't going to nuke the datacenter that hosts your MC server, are you?
L397[12:48:34] <Killian_Flynn> in terms of x and y
L398[12:48:44] <Vexatos> there are two options for that
L399[12:48:58] <Killian_Flynn> and then send it over an internet card
L400[12:49:18] <Vexatos> a) craft a navigation upgrade, knows where its origin is, then as long as you are within the area of the map you used to craft it, you can get your coordinates relative to that map's origin
L401[12:49:22] <Vexatos> b) set up GPS
L402[12:49:50] <Killian_Flynn> what do u mean by map
L403[12:50:25] <Killian_Flynn> as in the whole minecraft world
L404[12:50:44] <evg-zhabotinsky> A navigation upgrade is crafted with normal MC map. The paper one. It gives your coordinates so long as you are in range of that map.
L405[12:51:17] <awoo> dear god http://tinyurl.com/ybtuolex
L406[12:51:18] <evg-zhabotinsky> https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Map
L407[12:51:48] <Killian_Flynn> what is the range on it
L408[12:51:54] <Killian_Flynn> i havnt used on in ages XD
L409[12:52:11] <evg-zhabotinsky> @awoo: That's Computronics Magic RAM xD
L410[12:53:05] <evg-zhabotinsky> A map is 2048x2048 blocks max, exactly as linked Wiki page says.
L411[12:53:30] <Killian_Flynn> So
L412[12:53:45] <Killian_Flynn> If it goes out of that range it stops working?
L413[12:53:52] <Lizzy> %remindme 6d remind Forecaster about beast forms
L414[12:53:52] <MichiBot> I'll remind you about "remind Forecaster about beast forms" at 01/19/2019 12:53:52 PM
L415[12:54:08] <awoo> magic it is
L416[12:54:21] <evg-zhabotinsky> http://tinyurl.com/y8ekbw57
L417[12:55:16] <awoo> anyways
L418[12:55:27] <awoo> ICBM classic is not compatible with OpenComputers
L419[12:55:31] <awoo> defensetech it is
L420[12:58:04] <Bob> :PetaLUL:
L421[12:58:25] <Bob> 65Megs of RAM
L422[12:58:27] <Bob> Why
L423[12:58:47] <evg-zhabotinsky> 64, NOT 65!
L424[12:59:11] <evg-zhabotinsky> Only marketing people use powers of 10 for such things.
L425[12:59:36] <Bob> /shrug
L426[13:01:40] <Killian_Flynn> How do u get the coordinates of a tablet
L427[13:01:51] <Bob> Is it even possible?
L428[13:01:58] <Killian_Flynn> Aparrently
L429[13:02:34] <AmandaC> by using maths to do trangulation based off the signal strength of a wireless modem message
L430[13:02:48] <evg-zhabotinsky> Question: Why does not Discord show my userpic when I post through IRC? It does at least for some others.
L431[13:03:07] <AmandaC> you have to set a profile pic through Corded
L432[13:03:11] <AmandaC> .setprofile I think/
L433[13:03:20] <evg-zhabotinsky> Ah, thanks.
L434[13:04:00] <Bob> E
L435[13:08:42] <Mimiru> it's !setmyavatar someurl from IRC
L436[13:11:01] <Mimiru> ICBM... once long ago I wrote an addon for that, so you could control them from OC
L437[13:16:25] <Killian_Flynn> Someone said u could get the coords from the EEPROM
L438[13:16:35] <Forecaster> no
L439[13:17:38] <AmandaC> There's no push-button-get-coords, you'll have to calculate it yourself
L440[13:20:42] <evg-zhabotinsky> I said you could put your trojan cod in EEPROM so that tablet user has practically no chance of figuring it out.
L441[13:22:10] <evg-zhabotinsky> !setmyavatar https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/478901315716513812/56ffa0ca16d282016756bc5bd8224360.png
L442[13:22:33] <evg-zhabotinsky> Corded seems to ignore me...
L443[13:22:48] <evg-zhabotinsky> Oh! It worked!
L444[13:22:48] <Forecaster> for what?
L445[13:22:54] <Forecaster> oh
L446[13:27:07] <Mimiru> Yeah, no response from the command, and then someone else has to send a message before it shows the new avatar because of the Caching discord does
L447[13:29:19] <Inari> ca-CHING
L448[13:29:36] <Forecaster> %inv add ca-CHING
L449[13:29:37] * MichiBot summons 'ca-CHING' and adds to her inventory. I could get some good swings in with this.
L450[13:31:07] <evg-zhabotinsky> %loot
L451[13:31:08] <MichiBot> evg-zhabotinsky: You get a loot box! It contains a napkin with scribbles on it.
L452[13:32:44] <Inari> %potion
L453[13:32:45] <MichiBot> Inari: You get a cloudy blue potion
L454[13:32:47] <Inari> %drink ^
L455[13:32:47] <MichiBot> Inari gains an extra strand of hair on their face.
L456[13:39:14] <Kleadron> %potion
L457[13:39:15] <MichiBot> Kleadron: You get a shimmering purple potion
L458[13:39:18] <Kleadron> %drink ^
L459[13:39:18] <MichiBot> Kleadron's favourite hat is suddenly on fire.
L460[13:39:22] <Kleadron> oh come on
L461[13:39:27] <Kleadron> this is the second time
L462[13:43:55] <Mimiru> I kinda want to setup a MC server..
L463[13:45:07] <Kleadron> it better have opencomputers on it
L464[13:45:22] <Mimiru> Nope, CC.
L465[13:48:12] <awoo> so
L466[13:48:15] <awoo> wew
L467[13:48:20] <awoo> new survival world
L468[13:48:25] <awoo> i don't know what mod it is but
L469[13:48:38] <awoo> already have an emerald, an emerald shovel, and a single diamond
L470[13:48:47] <awoo> and i've only made planks and a crafting table
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L473[14:19:33] <AmandaC> %choose ? or ☢️ or neither
L474[14:19:33] <MichiBot> AmandaC: I'm 40% ?!
L475[14:26:36] <Skye> good evening
L476[14:28:14] <Bob> Henlo
L477[14:44:11] <Kleadron> good midday
L478[14:51:32] <TheFox> ```
L479[14:51:32] <TheFox> I'm 40% :ocean:!```
L480[14:51:33] <TheFox> not a bad way of saying that.
L481[14:52:31] <payonel> %flip ?
L482[14:52:32] <MichiBot> payonel: (╯°□°)╯?
L483[14:54:09] <AmandaC> Inari: you'll never catch me, I'm like the eiffel tower!
L484[14:54:22] <Forecaster> heavy and pointy?
L485[14:59:10] <Vexatos> or metallic, lifeless, without any purpose?
L486[14:59:29] <Forecaster> it's purpose is not to be heavy and pointy?
L487[14:59:44] <Vexatos> it's neither particularly heavy nor pointy
L488[14:59:48] <Vexatos> given its shape and volume
L489[14:59:55] <t20kdc> maybe it's rooted in... ground truths
L490[15:00:18] <Vexatos> perhaps
L491[15:00:19] <Forecaster> how dare you, I think it's quite heavy and pointy D:<
L492[15:01:55] <t20kdc> anyway, catching the eiffel tower is easy
L493[15:02:03] <t20kdc> just get a big butterfly net
L494[15:02:14] <t20kdc> not like the tower's going anywhere
L495[15:02:37] <Vexatos> it's not particularly fugitive
L496[15:02:42] <Forecaster> catching amanda is probably harder
L497[15:02:46] <Rph> I wonder how do IRC people see custom emoji from discord
L498[15:02:57] <Vexatos> as text, obviously
L499[15:03:06] <AmandaC> as :bullshitEmojiCode:
L500[15:03:10] <Rph> :ablobbounce:
L501[15:03:25] <Rph> I posted an animated emoji now
L502[15:03:35] <Vexatos> well aware
L503[15:03:41] <t20kdc> meanwhile, to everybody else: "ablobbounce"
L504[15:03:56] <AmandaC> https://nc.ddna.co/s/SZatEHCembkSR58
L505[15:04:09] <Kleadron> IRC users cannot see custom emoji
L506[15:04:10] <Rph> ah okay
L507[15:04:15] <Rph> well I know that
L508[15:04:18] <Kleadron> only most of the normal ones
L509[15:04:21] <Kleadron> like ?
L510[15:04:26] <Rph> but I was wondering was it the full internal code or a user friendly code
L511[15:04:31] <Vexatos> well all unicode emoji work, obviously
L512[15:04:31] <Kleadron> Oh i see
L513[15:04:35] <Rph> internal code would be like <a:name:id>
L514[15:07:32] <Vexatos> Still waiting for ?
L515[15:08:10] <Vexatos> the only relevant emoji
L516[15:09:40] <Killian_Flynn> @evg-zhabotinsky#0000
L517[15:17:10] <evg-zhabotinsky> Gasp! A 3-byte Unicode character! I wonder what it is... Meanwhile, OC does not support them at all. (Prints as "??")
L518[15:17:50] <Vexatos> It's a unicode 12 character
L519[15:18:32] <evg-zhabotinsky> Oh. So 1F9A9 is an invalid character. Literally.
L520[15:18:45] <Vexatos> currently, yes
L521[15:18:59] <Vexatos> but in the future, I'll be able to look back at my chat log and see this
L522[15:19:16] <Vexatos> and I will marvel at the past me's genius
L523[15:21:33] <evg-zhabotinsky> Oh. It took me a while to find any description of it different from "Invalid Character".
L524[15:21:55] <evg-zhabotinsky> By the way, are flamingos a meme around here?
L525[15:22:37] <AmandaC> only with Vexatos
L526[15:22:54] <AmandaC> not for lack of effort, though
L527[15:23:07] <evg-zhabotinsky> Also, when I said OC does not support it, I meant any code points beyond 0xFFFF in general.
L528[15:23:35] <evg-zhabotinsky> The gpu.set() method treats them as 2 separate characters.
L529[15:24:22] <AmandaC> It should just be showing the ? character, because the only thing stopping it is OC doesn't parse the font for values > 0xFFFF
L530[15:24:49] <evg-zhabotinsky> Specifically, I was trying to output "?", but got "??". Not even just "?" as with others.
L531[15:25:43] <evg-zhabotinsky> So with it utf8.len() differs from amount of actually printed characters.
L532[15:34:50] <t20kdc> it's basically because of a trend Windows started
L533[15:35:18] <t20kdc> to explain: when Windows got Unicode support it used UTF-16, so all the fancy managed languages used UTF-16
L534[15:35:55] <t20kdc> so of course both C# and Java have "chars" that are in fact UTF-16 values, not actual codepoints (you know, like a sensible definition of 'char')
L535[15:36:50] <AmandaC> oh, if you're putting the char in the source directly it'll show ??, if you use unicode.char it'll beone
L536[15:38:04] <AmandaC> because of what t20kdc said
L537[15:41:47] <t20kdc> these days, sensible systems either use UTF-8 or UTF-32; one will break in obvious ways if handling is incorrect rather than subtle ones (subtle like this UTF-16 problem), and the other one is pretty much guaranteed to avoid any text encoding issues ever
L538[15:43:28] <evg-zhabotinsky> I didn't think that was Java problem.
L539[15:45:34] <evg-zhabotinsky> Actually, the handling of such code points suggests that gpu.set receives the correct string: it prints two actual "?" chars instead of just displaying a "?" but keeping the code internally.
L540[15:45:58] <evg-zhabotinsky> (As revealed by gpu.get())
L541[15:46:05] <Skye> evg-zhabotinsky, IIRC OC uses UTF-32 for rendering
L542[15:46:32] <Skye> I _think_ actual encoding used in text strings is UTF-8, but I'm not 100% sure
L543[15:46:52] <t20kdc> The text strings are UTF-8
L544[15:47:21] <t20kdc> Lua 5.3 utf8 length measurement (NOT unicode module length measurement, this could be UTF-16) is probably the most accurate indicator for if your text strings are correct
L545[15:48:36] <t20kdc> of course whatever you then put them in will do whatever it in turn wants to do
L546[15:51:37] <t20kdc> essentially, if your text becomes a String Scala-side, it's UTF-16.
L547[15:51:51] <t20kdc> At the end of that, anyway. It's transformed from UTF-8.
L548[15:52:14] <t20kdc> But ends up treated as UTF-16 and may or may not get characters treated incorrectly.
L549[15:53:02] <t20kdc> ...Essentially, if it treats a single codepoint as two, then it's getting turned into UTF-16 and then split by UTF-16 char rather than codepoint.
L550[15:53:07] <t20kdc> You get the point. Probably.
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L552[15:59:42] <Inari> AmandaC: https://imgur.com/gallery/fJDYKnh aahaha
L553[16:00:23] <AmandaC> Inari: witchcraft!
L554[16:09:07] <evg-zhabotinsky> Meh. I could not find where it gets transformed into "??". It has to be manually done somewhere, though. For chars up to 0xffff gpu.get() returns the original char, even if it displays as "?". With chars from 0x10000 on, it returns the actual "?" (i.e. char(0x3f)) for each of the two "?" on the screen.
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L556[16:10:01] <payonel> we don't use utf-32 nor utf-16 for rendering
L557[16:10:04] <payonel> it doesn't work like that
L558[16:11:00] <payonel> yes, we use utf8 to communicate unicode code points, but the java utf8 library we're using doesn't support anything over 0xffff, and thus are also limited at that
L559[16:11:21] <payonel> for rendering, we do it "by hand", we create glyphs based on a bitmap
L560[16:11:30] <payonel> if we have a defined bitmap for a codepoint, we render it
L561[16:11:35] <payonel> if we don't, we will render ?
L562[16:12:17] <payonel> evg-zhabotinsky: ^
L563[16:14:39] <evg-zhabotinsky> I get it that you just render a "?", gpu.get() still returns the original. But anything above 0xffff seems to be converted to two literal "?"s somewhere before it reaches the screen. Probably in that utf8 library, I guess.
L564[16:15:41] <payonel> yes, again, due to the java utf8 library where we store the utf8 value
L565[16:15:52] <payonel> it simply refuses to accept anything over 0xffff
L566[16:17:12] <payonel> t20kdc: also, i disagree :) utf-16 and utf-32 are not sensible. only utf8 is
L567[16:17:35] <t20kdc> UTF-16 isn't sensible, I agree, though UTF-32 at least is codepoint-oriented
L568[16:18:19] <payonel> utf32 is a huge waste and unusable. a complete waste of effort to support
L569[16:19:18] <payonel> by "unusable" i mean ... it doesn't work in many environments and use cases
L570[16:19:45] <payonel> but i also do not fault the programmers, because it's just a horrid standard. i'm just very utf8 biased
L571[16:19:48] <payonel> very
L572[16:19:49] <payonel> :)
L573[16:20:34] <payonel> anyways, i know this is subjective. but i also feel it is worth advocating
L574[16:27:52] <evg-zhabotinsky> Should an issue be created for that? There's an old #1076 touching the same subject, btw.
L575[16:29:37] <Temia> %tonk
L576[16:29:38] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Temia, you were not able to beat Forecaster's record of 5 hours, 49 minutes and 25 seconds this time.
L577[16:29:39] <MichiBot> 5 hours, 26 minutes and 26 seconds were wasted! Missed by 22 minutes and 58 seconds!
L578[16:29:44] <Temia> Darn.
L579[16:37:48] <evg-zhabotinsky> Is it so hard to search the channel history on Discord for the latest %tonk?
L580[16:38:03] <Forecaster> they're not on discord
L581[16:38:53] <evg-zhabotinsky> Oh?
L582[16:38:57] <evg-zhabotinsky> http://tinyurl.com/y9nlz7b8
L583[16:39:18] <Mimiru> ...Temia isn't on Discord... They're on IRC.
L584[16:39:20] <Forecaster> ...
L585[16:39:26] <evg-zhabotinsky> Oh, ok.
L586[16:39:37] <Mimiru> And IRC users come and go, and history doesn't work when you're not connected.
L587[16:40:11] <Rph> here we see one of many advantages of discord :^)
L588[16:40:17] <Mimiru> Hardly.
L589[16:41:13] <evg-zhabotinsky> Yeah, history is a problem. That's why I look through the Discord mirror on my phone every time I reconnect. (For all the 2 days of me using IRC XD)
L590[16:41:26] <Forecaster> %logs
L591[16:41:26] <MichiBot> Forecaster: https://oclogs.pc-logix.com/
L592[16:42:03] <AmandaC> %roll 1d2
L593[16:42:04] <MichiBot> AmandaC: [2]
L594[16:42:11] <AmandaC> 'kaaaay
L595[16:42:31] <evg-zhabotinsky> Wait... That's IRC logs? I honestly thought that was something else and ignored the command.
L596[16:43:26] <evg-zhabotinsky> And them being there means that one can write a bash+curl script that prints when exactly to do the next %tonk :P
L597[16:43:28] <Mimiru> They go back to when I first joined.
L598[16:45:10] <Forecaster> If it seems like someone is using scripts I will just have MichBot ignore them
L599[16:45:55] <Mimiru> For admitting they'd do it, I might just in case.. :D
L600[16:46:13] * Izaya gives evg-zhabotinsky ZNC
L601[16:46:28] <AmandaC> Number one rule of cheating: don't admit to cheating
L602[16:46:46] <Izaya> Esper doesn't do server-side history so other methods have to be used
L603[16:47:27] <simon816> most regular IRC users will use a bouncer
L604[16:47:28] <Forecaster> There are networks that do?
L605[16:47:38] <Izaya> yup
L606[16:47:45] <evg-zhabotinsky> Well, currently I use Discord's history search and add the numbers in my head. I didn't even use calculator even once!
L607[16:47:55] <Izaya> it's one of the less commonly used InspIRCd features
L608[16:48:08] <Izaya> a better solution to server-side history is XMPP
L609[16:48:36] <Mimiru> I have it on a couple of channels on my net.. though it's only like the last 10 lines in the last 60 seconds.
L610[16:51:00] <Forecaster> Well sometimes someone will change it without calculating anything and miss
L611[16:51:12] <Forecaster> It's part of the game :P
L612[16:51:43] <Forecaster> Chance it*
L613[16:51:47] <evg-zhabotinsky> I was thinking about ZNC, but my router has something like 1.5 megs of free space and about 60k available RAM. And I currently have have no device to run ZNC on instead of it.
L614[16:52:39] * Izaya can relate
L615[16:52:50] <Izaya> except it's more like 360k of free space and no available RAM
L616[16:53:22] <Forecaster> I use a Lizzy for ZNC, not that I need it, but just as a backup
L617[16:53:52] <Forecaster> My irc client never disconnects unless the connection is interrupted
L618[16:53:54] <Izaya> there are public bouncer services also
L619[16:54:53] <Mimiru> I use Mimiru for ZNC
L620[16:55:10] <Forecaster> Irssi is best client because I can ssh into it from anywhere :D
L621[16:55:30] <evg-zhabotinsky> I probably should just resurrect my very old Android phone for that. It has no screen and modem does not work properly, but WiFi and adb should still work.
L622[16:56:03] <Izaya> low-power ZNC server, that'd be neat
L623[16:56:09] <Izaya> too bad pmOS isn't really there yet
L624[16:57:38] * Mimiru screams at MC
L625[16:57:58] * Izaya hmms
L626[16:57:59] <evg-zhabotinsky> What is pmOS?
L627[16:58:13] <Izaya> postmarketOS, Alpine Linux for smartphones
L628[16:58:26] <Izaya> https://postmarketos.org/
L629[16:58:46] <Izaya> I'm hoping that by the time I need to replace my current phone it'll be practical to use pmOS instead of Android
L630[16:59:02] <Inari> But how will I use Android apps on it
L631[16:59:10] <Izaya> Inari: anbox
L632[16:59:13] <Izaya> if you must
L633[16:59:29] <Inari> Probably at like terrible performance
L634[16:59:30] <Inari> xD
L635[16:59:35] <Izaya> nah
L636[16:59:37] <Izaya> near-native
L637[16:59:41] <Izaya> well I mean
L638[16:59:45] <Izaya> there's no emulation happening
L639[16:59:55] <Izaya> it's just running most of android in a container
L640[17:00:03] <Izaya> so I hope your phone has at least a GB of RAM
L641[17:00:19] <Inari> As in, a whole layer of extra OS stuff happening in the BG
L642[17:00:24] <evg-zhabotinsky> Hm. Joining this channel proved useful so far. PostmarketOS is sure interesting, and I can't wait to finally test Bedrock Linux.
L643[17:00:33] <Inari> Anyway
L644[17:00:35] <Inari> Byes, nights
L645[17:00:39] <Izaya> o7
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L647[17:00:55] * Izaya is much more interested in running loonix software on their phone than running android software on loonix
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L649[17:04:33] <simon816> https://linuxonandroid.com/
L650[17:05:52] <Izaya> simon816: originally I was looking into running a standard distro in a container
L651[17:05:56] <Izaya> but android makes that impractical
L652[17:06:06] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L653[17:06:07] <MichiBot> I'm sorry CompanionCube, you were not able to beat Forecaster's record of 5 hours, 49 minutes and 25 seconds this time.
L654[17:06:07] <Izaya> also the kernel for my phone is like 8 years old
L655[17:06:08] <MichiBot> 36 minutes and 28 seconds were wasted! Missed by 5 hours, 12 minutes and 56 seconds!
L656[17:06:16] <Izaya> and as such doesn't have all the stuff for LXC
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L659[17:08:20] <simon816> yeah my phone doesn't support loop devices so it doesn't work :(
L660[17:09:01] <Izaya> I tried compiling a kernel with more of the stuff I needed but uh
L661[17:09:08] <Izaya> android development is hell
L662[17:10:33] <Mimiru> FFS
L663[17:10:52] <evg-zhabotinsky> I was trying to install Gentoo in a chroot on my phone once. Emerge just derped up in the middle of install every single time and nothing worked after that.
L664[17:11:38] <evg-zhabotinsky> Hm, I wonder...
L665[17:11:42] <evg-zhabotinsky> %tonkpoints
L666[17:11:42] <MichiBot> evg-zhabotinsky: I can't find any record, so you have 0 points.
L667[17:11:51] <evg-zhabotinsky> %tonkout
L668[17:11:51] <MichiBot> You are not the current record holder. It is Forecaster.
L669[17:12:00] <evg-zhabotinsky> %tonkreset
L670[17:12:14] <evg-zhabotinsky> Meh.
L671[17:13:11] <Mimiru> Not sure what kind of idiots you think we are, but there are permissions checks, and user checks on stuff..
L672[17:13:52] <evg-zhabotinsky> I was curious about the first 2 commands, and tried the last one because why not.
L673[17:15:07] <simon816> %tonk' DROP TABLE scores; --
L674[17:15:51] <awoo> %tonk literally delete system32
L675[17:15:51] <MichiBot> I'm sorry awoo, you were not able to beat Forecaster's record of 5 hours, 49 minutes and 25 seconds this time.
L676[17:15:52] <MichiBot> 9 minutes and 44 seconds were wasted! Missed by 5 hours, 39 minutes and 40 seconds!
L677[17:18:24] <evg-zhabotinsky> %source
L678[17:18:25] <MichiBot> evg-zhabotinsky: https://github.com/PC-Logix/LanteaBot/
L679[17:20:33] <Forecaster> %tonkout
L680[17:20:54] <Forecaster> Huh
L681[17:20:56] * Izaya is pleasantly surprised how little disk space pleroma uses
L682[17:27:10] <Izaya> https://social.shadowkat.net/media/b412131f-a063-4f3b-b899-1c3902cfa9a7/HighResScreenShot_2019-01-13_12-38-19.png
L683[17:33:37] <simon816> hmm if IRC allows semicolons in names it's possible to spoof-tonk (due to split()[1] here https://github.com/PC-Logix/LanteaBot/blob/master/src/main/java/pcl/lc/irc/hooks/Tonk.java#L107)
L684[17:35:52] <Mimiru> simon816, Mimiru;nope :Erroneous Nickname
L685[17:37:23] <simon816> maybe that's why semicolon was used
L686[17:38:02] <Mimiru> I think the command parser strips non valid irc nicks.. though I could be wrong
L687[18:07:30] <evg-zhabotinsky> Actually, storeJsonData(key, value) receives 2 strings and does not sanitize them. You are lucky that it's used only for tonk and is never passed anything but valid date-time and nicks as both keys and values, as neither can contain a double quote.
L688[18:13:13] <Rph> Hmmm
L689[18:13:22] <Rph> Ill add a quote to my discord nick wait
L690[18:18:17] <evg-zhabotinsky> You'll have to add a whole sequence: "),("key","value
L691[18:18:49] <evg-zhabotinsky> And then set a new tonk record with such nick
L692[18:20:30] <payonel> AmandaC: pshfs is working
L693[18:20:32] <payonel> pretty well
L694[18:20:39] <payonel> just pushed updates
L695[18:22:08] <evg-zhabotinsky> Hmm... I wonder how MichiBot reads %tonks from Discord...
L696[18:22:27] <evg-zhabotinsky> <test> %tonk
L697[18:22:27] <MichiBot> I'm sorry test, you were not able to beat Forecaster's record of 5 hours, 49 minutes and 25 seconds this time.
L698[18:22:28] <MichiBot> 1 hour, 6 minutes and 36 seconds were wasted! Missed by 4 hours, 42 minutes and 49 seconds!
L699[18:22:52] <evg-zhabotinsky> <"),("key","value> %tonk
L700[18:23:12] <evg-zhabotinsky> No? Oh, okay...
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L702[18:23:21] <Mimiru> Oh wrong bot
L703[18:23:36] ⇨ Joins: Corded (Corded!~MichiBot@eos.pc-logix.com)
L704[18:23:37] zsh sets mode: +v on Corded
L705[18:23:37] <evg-zhabotinsky> I broke something?
L706[18:23:40] ⇦ Quits: MichiBot (MichiBot!~MichiBot@eos.pc-logix.com) (Remote host closed the connection)
L707[18:23:44] <Mimiru> Nope.
L708[18:24:35] <simon816> I do hope no unsafe data can reach this line... https://github.com/PC-Logix/LanteaBot/blob/master/src/main/java/pcl/lc/utils/Database.java#L160
L709[18:25:29] <evg-zhabotinsky> That's what I tried to check just now.
L710[18:30:05] <simon816> that moment when Mimiru realises the threat of bobby tables :p
L711[18:30:22] <Mimiru> That moment when I get annoyed by asshats who try to exploit a fucking IRC bot for funsies.
L712[18:34:13] <Mimiru> And I have stuff I'd much rather be doing then sitting here watching the bullshit, so.
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L714[18:57:19] <evg-zhabotinsky> Anyway, I'm pretty sure that multiple queries are disabled by default, and only selects are allowed as subqueries, so it should not be possible to modify other tables. And that one is only used for tonk and storing ban duration for prohibited phrases.
L715[19:01:18] <evg-zhabotinsky> <Forecaster> %tonkout
L716[19:01:35] <evg-zhabotinsky> <test> %tonk
L717[19:01:44] <simon816> bot is offline
L718[19:02:55] <Kleadron> %alive
L719[19:03:03] * evg-zhabotinsky sighs.
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L723[19:21:41] <Mimiru> XDJackieXD's pack updater, is quiet handy
L724[19:30:15] <ben_mkiv> theres a mod which adds mod update to minecraft as feature
L725[19:30:46] <Kleadron> english just went down the drain
L726[19:30:54] <awoo> so
L727[19:31:03] <Mimiru> pack updater is nice cause I can export a MMC pack and then I can update the pack via my site and it updates/adds mods
L728[19:31:07] <awoo> currently
L729[19:31:25] <awoo> doin a little bit of survival stuff
L730[19:31:42] <awoo> and i've got a lot of copper and uranium because why not
L731[19:32:09] <Kleadron> reactor time
L732[19:32:15] <ben_mkiv> https://minecraft.curseforge.com/projects/serversync
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L734[19:32:29] <ben_mkiv> This is an open source mod that allows for easy mod management. The client will always be able to connect to your server and you will never again have to send them the new files and tell them to update.
L735[19:32:41] <Kleadron> Izaya: you might want to take a look at this
L736[19:33:04] <Mimiru> pack updater runs as a prerun command in MMC, and does basically the same thing
L737[19:33:16] <ben_mkiv> but requires multimc?!
L738[19:33:50] <ben_mkiv> i mean theres nothing wrong with mmc, but some people are stubborn and dont like to change their launcher
L739[19:34:00] <Kleadron> the stubburn people can miss out then
L740[19:34:21] <awoo> i have nearly a full stack of uranium on me
L741[19:34:24] <awoo> :MeguminHyper:
L742[19:34:46] <Kleadron> IRC cannot display the emote
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L744[19:35:58] <awoo> i love how i've started the nuclear age before steam engines
L745[19:36:54] <Kleadron> are you using Extreme Reactors/Big Reactors or IC2
L746[19:37:05] <ben_mkiv> or mekanism?
L747[19:37:09] <ben_mkiv> the only legit reactor mod :P
L748[19:37:14] <ben_mkiv> or nuclearcraft
L749[19:40:52] <ben_mkiv> oh someone at curse woke up...
L750[19:40:55] <ben_mkiv> https://minecraft.curseforge.com/projects/ocdevices
L751[19:41:00] <ben_mkiv> grab it while its buggy^^
L752[19:41:16] <awoo> Big Reactors and ReactorCraft
L753[19:41:35] <awoo> ReactorCraft reactors are just
L754[19:41:36] <awoo> w e w
L755[19:41:38] <Mimiru> Those screens look familiar...
L756[19:41:46] <Kleadron> Big Reactors is kinda OP
L757[19:41:57] <awoo> ReactorCraft has better output iirc
L758[19:42:02] <ben_mkiv> yes, moved them to their own mod, as they dont really fit the theme
L759[19:42:16] <Mimiru> Ah..
L760[19:42:36] <awoo> >1.12 only
L761[19:42:36] <awoo> :(
L762[19:42:42] <ben_mkiv> and might still do what you said about the more simple displays
L763[19:42:46] <Kleadron> you 1.7.10 user
L764[19:42:50] <ben_mkiv> for OS
L765[19:43:13] <awoo> 1.7.10 user, yeah
L766[19:43:33] <awoo> because ReactorCraft and whatnot hasn't been updated for any other versions
L767[19:43:42] <awoo> last time i checked anyways
L768[19:43:44] <ben_mkiv> but now i should play and test more
L769[19:43:47] <Kleadron> im kinda slightly suprised that 1.7.10 is still supported by OpenComputers
L770[19:43:53] <ben_mkiv> same
L771[19:44:32] <awoo> i'm glad it is
L772[19:44:34] <Kleadron> but i guess its cool that there is the same mod version across basically two different generations of minecraft mods
L773[19:44:46] <Mimiru> IIRC 1.8 won't support 1.10 and below
L774[19:45:07] <awoo> while i found a mod to remove the most damning part of the newer versions
L775[19:45:12] <awoo> i just like 1.7.10
L776[19:45:14] <awoo> it's comfy
L777[19:45:22] <Kleadron> what is the big features that 1.8 will have it stop supporting older versions
L778[19:45:50] <Kleadron> if it isnt bitmapped graphics them im dissapointed
L779[19:46:01] <Kleadron> or square characters
L780[19:46:13] <Mimiru> 1.8 is just the "Break everything" change.. so likely dropping older MC support
L781[19:46:32] <Kleadron> oh so its an excuse to break everyone's things
L782[19:46:45] <Kleadron> in that case would there be a side branch for 1.7.x support
L783[19:46:57] <Kleadron> as in mod version not mc version
L784[19:47:20] <Kleadron> also, what would it be breaking
L785[19:49:29] <awoo> but yeah
L786[19:49:36] <awoo> i hate the new combat system with a passion
L787[19:50:14] <Kleadron> seriously what is OC 1.8 going to break
L788[19:50:25] <Kleadron> and what does it give in return
L789[19:51:02] <ben_mkiv> wonder how Blaze3D is going to break everything xD
L790[19:52:37] <awoo> bless http://tinyurl.com/ybspfmxs
L791[19:52:55] <Kleadron> unholy
L792[19:53:13] <Kleadron> this is not how reactor fuel should be crafted
L793[19:53:27] <awoo> shh
L794[19:53:52] <awoo> i need this to make a big reactors reactor so i can make a reactorcraft reactor and hopefully not have a recreation of chernobyl
L795[19:54:34] <awoo> tbh
L796[19:54:48] <awoo> i wanna modify a few of the mods i'm using so they work together better
L797[19:56:01] <awoo> also so when i carpet nuke my friend's base he can't simply come back and grab his stuff
L798[20:01:01] <awoo> me: i'll just set the difficulty to peaceful while i grab a load of uranium
L799[20:01:01] <awoo> also me: why the hell isn't my mob farm tower working
L800[20:05:51] <awoo> i wish i could update my modpack tho
L801[20:06:09] <awoo> there's some neat worldgen mods i want and i want the new galacticraft planets
L802[20:06:20] <awoo> but the highest i can go is 1.10 because of warpdrive
L803[20:07:58] <ben_mkiv> xDDD
L804[20:09:08] <ben_mkiv> but theres https://minecraft.curseforge.com/projects/advanced-rocketry
L805[20:11:08] <Z0idburg> huh
L806[20:11:59] <Izaya> Kleadron: I was gonna use voodoo but >another JVM meme language
L807[20:12:34] <Kleadron> wot
L808[20:14:56] <Mimiru> Ahh... Just watched a Skele stare at a dialing Star Gate... and die
L809[20:21:31] <awoo> but
L810[20:21:43] <awoo> warpdrive has hyperspace
L811[20:21:52] <awoo> ffs i need to log out of the IRC on my laptop
L812[20:23:57] <awoo> meh
L813[20:24:02] <awoo> i'll just get back on my laptop
L814[20:24:17] <Adorable-Catgirl> i need to get working on Tsuki's kernel anyways
L815[20:24:30] <Adorable-Catgirl> i also need a better name for it than "Luna"
L816[20:26:34] <Kleadron> Sol
L817[20:27:01] <Adorable-Catgirl> lmao
L818[20:28:59] <Adorable-Catgirl> also, i need to make a few utils for zorya
L819[20:29:13] <ben_mkiv> %choose sleep or eat
L820[20:29:15] <Adorable-Catgirl> like to discover new operating systems
L821[20:29:30] <ben_mkiv> %chose sleep or eat
L822[20:31:58] <Mimiru> No MichiBot ben_mkiv
L823[20:32:05] <ben_mkiv> i see
L824[20:32:13] <Mimiru> Read a while back if you want further details.
L825[20:32:54] <ben_mkiv> yea did remember
L826[20:33:01] <ben_mkiv> thats why we cant have good things
L827[20:33:37] <Mimiru> yep.
L828[20:33:46] <Mimiru> Well, the basics of my MC server are setup.
L829[20:34:20] <ben_mkiv> what version?
L830[20:34:27] <Mimiru> 1.12.2
L831[20:34:44] <ben_mkiv> will you invite me once its setup?
L832[20:34:57] <ben_mkiv> guess it will have newest OS and such?! :>
L833[20:36:36] <Kleadron> "OS"?
L834[20:36:52] <ben_mkiv> opensecurity
L835[20:37:04] <Kleadron> ah
L836[20:37:27] <Mimiru> Yeah, sure. I set it up for #OC.. yet another unofficial server.
L837[20:38:07] <Kleadron> an official server would be too crowded for me to like tbh
L838[20:38:11] <Mimiru> 3 main worlds, "World" is Survival, "Creative" is... well Creative, and a "Lost City" world, also survival. There are stargates connecting them, and I'm working on Permissions/Inventories
L839[20:38:18] <Kleadron> but it would be nice to have a "world wide web" in a minecraft world
L840[20:38:27] <Kleadron> imagine that
L841[20:39:21] <Kleadron> but without stargate bullshit
L842[20:39:28] <Kleadron> just general technology mods
L843[20:39:34] <Kleadron> as an official server
L844[20:39:40] <Mimiru> opencomputers.mooo.com port 25565 and it's Whitelisted
L845[20:40:01] <Mimiru> Stargate is only here for interdim movement without magically moving about with commands.
L846[20:41:59] <Mimiru> MMC Instance is https://caitlynmainer.com/mcpack/oc-pack/OpenComputers-MMC.zip I'll have other methods of joining eventually
L847[20:43:19] <ben_mkiv> instance doesnt contain any mods
L848[20:43:26] <Mimiru> No, it doesn't
L849[20:43:31] <ben_mkiv> oh
L850[20:43:35] <Mimiru> But when you import and run it, it will
L851[20:43:39] <ben_mkiv> its with the mod we talket about before?
L852[20:43:42] <ben_mkiv> talked*
L853[20:44:04] <Mimiru> No, I already had the packupdater script and stuff from one of my last packs, so I just reused that :P
L854[20:45:15] <ben_mkiv> did you use my current OS build or your latest?
L855[20:45:41] <Mimiru> Latest of my CI, wasn't sure if you're was "Stable"
L856[20:45:54] <ben_mkiv> neither am i :P
L857[20:46:31] <Mimiru> I could switch to yours, it's easy enough
L858[20:47:29] <ben_mkiv> just thought its a good way to test around
L859[20:48:02] <Mimiru> Updated.
L860[20:48:27] <ben_mkiv> did you just download? because ive just fixed a small bug like when i asked
L861[20:49:05] <Mimiru> I just grabbed it from the "Release" tab of GH, which was 12 days old.
L862[20:49:09] <ben_mkiv> ok
L863[20:49:12] <ben_mkiv> thats the correct one
L864[20:49:18] <ben_mkiv> updated the file there just 10mins ago
L865[20:51:58] <awoo> so
L866[20:52:09] <awoo> i need to get Tsuki into a working state tbh
L867[20:52:26] <Kleadron> excuse me
L868[20:52:29] <Kleadron> what did you just say
L869[20:52:56] <ben_mkiv> "java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: javafx/application/Application"
L870[20:52:56] <awoo> http://tinyurl.com/y86v6zcg
L871[20:53:00] <ben_mkiv> do i need some fancy java release?
L872[20:53:53] <Mimiru> ben_mkiv >
L873[20:53:54] <Mimiru> ?*
L874[20:54:36] <ben_mkiv> that happens when it tries to launch the preRun command
L875[20:54:43] <Mimiru> it should work on Oracle Java, and OpenJDK
L876[20:55:04] <Mimiru> I'm working on a manual version as we speak, so I don't have to keep updating zips when I update mods
L877[20:55:47] <Adorable-Catgirl> i'm bouncing between irc and discord, sorry lmao
L878[20:57:52] <ben_mkiv> is awoo your discord nick?
L879[20:58:04] <ben_mkiv> ^Adorable-Catgirl
L880[20:59:06] <Adorable-Catgirl> yea
L881[21:05:25] <Mimiru> https://caitlynmainer.com/mcpack/oc-pack/OpenComputers-2019-01-13.zip ben_mkiv
L882[21:05:37] <ben_mkiv> thank you
L883[21:05:43] <Mimiru> I'll look at using the mod you linked later
L884[21:05:59] <ben_mkiv> i've never used it yet
L885[21:06:04] <ben_mkiv> so i cant tell if its good or not
L886[21:06:21] <ben_mkiv> just stumbled across it when someone mentioned it in forge discord
L887[21:06:54] <Mimiru> Seems JavaFX doesn't like OpenJDk.. which is why it didn't work for you
L888[21:07:05] <Mimiru> Which is odd cause it's part of the project
L889[21:07:12] <Mimiru> but some people run into issues with it
L890[21:08:12] <ben_mkiv> thats funny because i use oracle jre
L891[21:08:19] <Mimiru> Odd, same here
L892[21:15:14] <Mimiru> I could always switch to Technic.. :P
L893[21:15:23] <Kleadron> NO
L894[21:15:55] <ben_mkiv> you could also not
L895[21:15:57] <Mimiru> Actually... Technic wouldn't be a horrible idea, for Solder, then I could write something to consume the API to spit out MMC/Other packs.
L896[21:16:02] <Mimiru> :P
L897[21:16:14] <ben_mkiv> well technic is probably the least worst decision after mmc
L898[21:17:05] <ben_mkiv> afaik MMC also supports technic instances
L899[21:17:10] <ben_mkiv> so one could just use technic for updates
L900[21:18:19] <Mimiru> It has the option in import, but it's "Under Construction"
L901[21:18:37] <ben_mkiv> nvm
L902[21:19:28] <Adorable-Catgirl> i was gonna make my own modpack thing
L903[21:19:35] <Adorable-Catgirl> i never got around to it
L904[21:20:09] <Adorable-Catgirl> i have a solid archive format but i could never get it working right in ruby, so i never bothered making a self-extractor.
L905[21:20:19] <Adorable-Catgirl> because i just use ruby sometimes
L906[21:20:51] <ben_mkiv> ive made a curse modpack downloader in php once
L907[21:20:58] <ben_mkiv> because twitch launcher wasnt a thing for linux -.-
L908[21:22:04] <Kleadron> its because linux is communist
L909[21:28:05] <Adorable-Catgirl> leeeenooooox
L910[21:47:02] <ben_mkiv> something tells me that i get hit by mimi in a few... xD
L911[21:47:15] <Mimiru> Oh?
L912[21:47:27] <Mimiru> I closed the game by mistake so you're safe... for now
L913[21:47:31] <ben_mkiv> oh good
L914[21:47:38] <ben_mkiv> thought something on dimension change happened
L915[21:47:57] <Mimiru> I was parked on top of the gate in the creative world... I also need to figure out why it's not forcing mode changes
L916[21:57:04] <Kleadron> i made a building outside of my mountain base because im trying to figure out if i want to live in a mountain or in an above-ground house
L917[21:58:11] <Kleadron> mountain base isn't really secret because there is a telephone pole line going to it and there is a windmill on top of it
L918[21:58:19] <ben_mkiv> live in a compactmachine
L919[21:58:24] <Kleadron> no
L920[21:58:46] <Kleadron> i think i will turn the mountian base into a powerplant
L921[22:06:24] <Adorable-Catgirl> time to write some documents
L922[22:09:07] <Wattana Gaming> This guy is honest asf http://tinyurl.com/y8entqef
L923[22:09:52] <ben_mkiv> xD
L924[22:10:23] <ben_mkiv> respond with "yes you are but stop the squeaking"
L925[22:12:33] <Kleadron> audio =/= video
L926[22:12:45] <Kleadron> camera =/= microphone
L927[22:12:54] <ben_mkiv> https://i.imgur.com/9nohQh4.jpg
L928[22:13:04] <Kleadron> bad joke tbh
L929[22:15:26] <Mimiru> oh.. hmm ben_mkiv if you can tell me what you had I can replace your missing inv
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L931[22:15:38] <ben_mkiv> idc about the stuff
L932[22:15:44] <Mimiru> Just realized that command removed it, and set it to the suvival inv which is empty lol
L933[22:15:56] <ben_mkiv> did you resolve whats causing the recipe issue?
L934[22:16:11] <Mimiru> looking into it now, had to go get food
L935[22:16:24] <ben_mkiv> no hurry
L936[22:22:03] <Kleadron> you guys sound like you are having "fun"
L937[22:37:44] <Mimiru> It works fine in SP.. only on the server is it broken...
L938[22:44:55] <Mimiru> "Couldn't get a list of all built-in advancement files"
L939[22:44:56] <Mimiru> I see
L940[22:49:22] <Mimiru> and now I get com.google.gson.JsonSyntaxException: Unknown recipe 'minecraft:trapdoor'
L941[22:49:24] <Mimiru> ffs Minecraft
L942[22:54:47] <ben_mkiv> i notice some railcraft recipe spam in the logs
L943[22:55:07] <ben_mkiv> and theres a newer build https://minecraft.curseforge.com/projects/railcraft/files
L944[22:58:05] <ben_mkiv> idk even know whats cool about railcraft these days?!
L945[22:59:06] <AmandaC> %choose be good or don't
L946[22:59:14] <AmandaC> D:
L947[22:59:17] <AmandaC> That's right
L948[22:59:26] <ben_mkiv> someone wasnt nice to michibot before
L949[22:59:29] <ben_mkiv> so don't
L950[22:59:31] <Kleadron> I would go with don't
L951[22:59:34] <AmandaC> Yeah, I forgot
L952[22:59:44] <Kleadron> kleadbot :)))))))))))))
L953[23:00:24] <ben_mkiv> https://i.imgur.com/rRyPeEU.png :>
L954[23:00:26] <AmandaC> I think I'll do some irradiation then see how I feel like hallucinating
L955[23:00:58] <AmandaC> (either concious or not)
L956[23:01:00] <ben_mkiv> and theres another kinda new train mod, if its just about trains for railcraft
L957[23:02:52] <ben_mkiv> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FR6yvT4YX8s but seems to be in dev actually
L958[23:02:56] <ben_mkiv> but kinda looks cute xD
L959[23:03:16] <Kleadron> oh my god that model is high quality
L960[23:03:40] <ben_mkiv> the screenshot?
L961[23:04:05] <Kleadron> the screenshot and in the train video
L962[23:04:11] <Kleadron> thats high quality as hell
L963[23:04:18] <ben_mkiv> immersive railroading, but you got to spent like tons of steel to craft them xD
L964[23:04:31] <ben_mkiv> not sure about the modname in the video
L965[23:04:45] <Kleadron> it looks more like an early 2000's or late 1990's model
L966[23:05:04] <Kleadron> in the vist
L967[23:05:06] <Kleadron> vid*
L968[23:05:27] <Izaya> so I went and took a proper look at the CB750-K2 in the garage
L969[23:05:32] <Izaya> https://i.4cdn.org/o/1547410337004.jpg
L970[23:05:32] <Mimiru> Ok... trying again
L971[23:06:07] <Mimiru> ben_mkiv, can't use the newer build of RailCraft, because of a change in beta 3 that breaks sponge
L972[23:06:13] <ben_mkiv> oh
L973[23:06:29] <Mimiru> https://github.com/Railcraft/Railcraft/issues/1607
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L976[23:07:15] <ben_mkiv> %tonk
L977[23:07:21] <Mimiru> ...
L978[23:07:26] <ben_mkiv> worth a try
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L980[23:07:39] <Mimiru> welp
L981[23:07:40] <Mimiru> lol
L982[23:08:11] <Mimiru> ben_mkiv, https://drive.pc-logix.com/index.php/s/w2y9kcDWiqbd62c
L983[23:08:29] <ben_mkiv> wohooo
L984[23:08:37] <ben_mkiv> what caused it?
L985[23:09:20] <Mimiru> Permissions error, it couldn't get the contents of the mc jar
L986[23:13:57] <Wattana Gaming> SARCASM 100 http://tinyurl.com/yc3jrcvp
L987[23:15:02] <Adorable-Catgirl> ok
L988[23:16:57] <Izaya> >kali
L989[23:17:03] <Izaya> >expecting a user-friendly experience
L990[23:17:09] <Izaya> can't fix stupid with software
L991[23:17:22] <ben_mkiv> isnt kali what xbmc was? xD
L992[23:17:34] <Izaya> no?
L993[23:17:36] <ben_mkiv> nvm
L994[23:17:40] <Izaya> kali turned into uh
L995[23:17:43] <Izaya> the one with the dragon logo
L996[23:17:46] <ben_mkiv> that was kodi
L997[23:18:20] <ben_mkiv> dang good old times...
L998[23:19:00] <ben_mkiv> modded xbox1 (not one) with xbmc and streamed tv from a linux server with dvb card and vdr to that xD
L999[23:19:16] <ben_mkiv> probably still better than any of those "smart tv" bs
L1000[23:20:26] <Mimiru> I still have a pair of xboxes running xbmc
L1001[23:22:14] <ben_mkiv> :) got mine still laying around in the basement
L1002[23:25:33] <Kleadron> i found a store called "Lucky Star" today
L1003[23:27:05] <Kleadron> i do not know what they sell and i am almost certain that they don't sell anything related to lucky star
L1004[23:27:08] <ben_mkiv> btw mimiru if you also play from time to time on the xbox...
L1005[23:27:09] <ben_mkiv> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrxutquiKoo
L1006[23:27:14] <ben_mkiv> thats fun with a few players
L1007[23:27:42] <ben_mkiv> but cant recall if there was a port or if we played it with emulator
L1008[23:30:50] <AmandaC> Izaya: you know what they say about idiot proofing things?
L1009[23:32:19] <Izaya> AmandaC: it induces evolution in said idiots?
L1010[23:32:59] <AmandaC> Izaya: the universe always makes a bigger idiot, yup
L1011[23:33:17] <Adorable-Catgirl> so
L1012[23:33:58] <Adorable-Catgirl> i guess i got bored and wrote an entire document specifying a standard archive format for OpenComputers lmao
L1013[23:34:23] <Kleadron> what is the archive format
L1014[23:34:37] <Adorable-Catgirl> https://github.com/Adorable-Catgirl/OC-Universal-Archive/blob/master/docs/URF-Format.md
L1015[23:34:46] <Adorable-Catgirl> feedback would be nice
L1016[23:34:55] <Adorable-Catgirl> it's probably terrible but ayy lmao
L1017[23:35:46] <Kleadron> i have no idea what any of it means but i am sure it is good
L1018[23:35:48] <Izaya> >entry type directory has specifier byte F
L1019[23:36:02] <Izaya> I figure it's just a typo but uh
L1020[23:36:26] <Adorable-Catgirl> oh i mean like
L1021[23:36:29] <Adorable-Catgirl> the letter F
L1022[23:36:32] <Adorable-Catgirl> i guess
L1023[23:36:35] <Izaya> yes but
L1024[23:36:37] <Adorable-Catgirl> i should have made it clearer
L1025[23:36:43] <Izaya> so does the type File
L1026[23:36:49] <Adorable-Catgirl> wait
L1027[23:36:50] <Adorable-Catgirl> where
L1028[23:36:53] <Adorable-Catgirl> did i
L1029[23:36:54] <Izaya> File and Directory have the same Specifier type
L1030[23:37:00] <Adorable-Catgirl> oh oops
L1031[23:37:01] <Izaya> https://github.com/Adorable-Catgirl/OC-Universal-Archive/blob/master/docs/URF-Format.md#entry-type-directory
L1032[23:37:31] <ben_mkiv> his other job is architect
L1033[23:37:35] <Adorable-Catgirl> Izaya: thanks for catching that
L1034[23:37:55] <ben_mkiv> just port btrfs to lua :P
L1035[23:38:01] <Adorable-Catgirl> lmao
L1036[23:39:45] <Kleadron> port reactos to lua
L1037[23:40:00] <Adorable-Catgirl> was gonna post this in OETF but i figured i'd have someone proofread it first since i figured i'd make a few mistakes
L1038[23:40:44] <Adorable-Catgirl> it's 00:40 right now and we all know how those wonderful late night ideas turn out if you're not careful
L1039[23:47:59] <Izaya> wonderfully
L1040[23:48:02] <Izaya> every time
L1041[23:48:08] * Izaya points at Minitel and PsychOS2
L1042[23:48:17] <Izaya> all of that was feeding the gremlins after midnight
L1043[23:48:32] <awoo> hey at least i know what i'm doing here
L1044[23:49:28] <awoo> i turned a simple file archive format into and unwieldy beast by adding too many "features"
L1045[23:49:51] <awoo> so i'm not doing that here
L1046[23:50:41] <awoo> and yea i'm on discord now
L1047[23:50:51] <Izaya> disgusting
L1048[23:51:56] <awoo> thanks dad
L1049[23:52:16] <awoo> anyways, how does the doc look?
L1050[23:53:28] <Izaya> define an integer specifying the length
L1051[23:54:02] <Izaya> are we talking tostring() or as an x bit int or
L1052[23:55:42] <awoo> what part?
L1053[23:55:51] <awoo> File Entry?
L1054[23:56:39] <awoo> or String?
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L1057[23:58:30] <Izaya> File Entry
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L1059[23:59:13] <Thisguy_> When I reference arg after passing variable arguments (...) into a function, I get "bad argument something something nil."
L1060[23:59:37] <Thisguy_> This is on an EEPROM that I flashed to use to direct a microcontroller
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