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L1[00:32:52] <Wuerfel_21> simpler: increment variable in infinite loop, catch the timeout exception and look at the score ?
L2[00:52:44] <Kleadron> oh
L3[01:49:13] <ZefTheFox> %tonk
L4[01:49:15] <MichiBot> I'm sorry ZefTheFox, you were not able to beat stephan48's record of 8 hours, 7 minutes and 28 seconds this time.
L5[01:49:16] <MichiBot> 7 hours, 58 minutes and 9 seconds were wasted! Missed by 9 minutes and 19 seconds!
L6[01:49:24] <ZefTheFox> Fuck
L7[01:54:03] <TheFox> Zef tf did you doooo
L8[01:54:06] <TheFox> 7 houuuuuuursss
L9[01:54:08] <TheFox> :(
L10[01:54:45] <ZefTheFox> I'm sorry ><
L11[01:57:45] <TheFox> All can be forgiven if you join my friends and I tonight. We're not doing shots, we're just downloading more RAM.
L12[01:59:29] <ZefTheFox> But it's 3 am
L13[02:00:43] <TheFox> Same, but dw. It's 5 somewher
L14[02:00:45] <TheFox> Same, but dw. It's 5 somewhere [Edited]
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L16[02:23:55] <Kleadron> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/452144750066401283/531134655681003528/comment_J1GN3b2x5vd7klwYy5vUcZRA8FXl7qQa.png
L17[02:25:24] <ZefTheFox> Fucking no
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L21[03:39:41] <Izaya> hey nerds what's the mod that lets you choose which item to output from the same recipe
L22[03:54:12] <Kleadron> is it possible to grow down
L23[03:57:37] <Forecaster> Izaya: NoMoreRecipeConflict?
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L29[05:34:42] <Inari> Meow
L30[05:34:55] <Inari> AmandaC: hehe
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L33[07:16:25] <Lizzy> %potion
L34[07:16:25] <MichiBot> Lizzy: You get a gloomy strawberry potion
L35[07:16:30] <Lizzy> %drink ^
L36[07:16:30] <MichiBot> Lizzy's pockets suddenly contain a number of marbles.
L37[07:16:44] * Lizzy scatters them across the floor
L38[07:20:58] * stephan48 comes into the room, steps onto one and falls - ouch my back
L39[07:21:33] * stephan48 stands up again and places some banana peels between the marbles, for more safety
L40[07:26:54] * t20kdc takes a look in, slips on a banana peel and ends up with marbles instead of eyes.
L41[07:27:24] <t20kdc> Bwuahahaha! I can now see the entire galaxy! Unfortunately I don't have the resolution to see at any smaller scale.
L42[07:27:39] <t20kdc> Wait, are these galaxies or the inside of marbles?
L43[07:31:51] * stephan48 takes out his calender ticks the box at "daily mayhem caused" and walks away
L44[07:33:44] * Skye fixes t20kdc's eyes
L45[07:33:49] <Skye> %potion
L46[07:33:49] <MichiBot> Skye: You get a porous gold potion
L47[07:33:54] <Skye> %drink ^
L48[07:33:55] <MichiBot> Skye remembers an important appointment.
L49[07:34:04] <Skye> I need that in real life.
L50[07:43:13] * Lizzy does a happy dance because she got her code working
L51[07:54:19] <Inari> Lizzy: Hah, I might have finally figured out what an AD account is!
L52[07:54:25] <Inari> After-Dark account!
L53[07:54:35] <Lizzy> a what?
L54[07:54:43] <Inari> Maybe that wasn't you
L55[07:54:48] <Inari> Might've been Temia or Mimiru :p
L56[07:55:31] <Inari> Was you!
L57[07:55:46] * Lizzy tilts head in confusion
L58[07:55:54] <Inari> https://irclogs.pc-logix.com/view.php?chan=oc&log=2018-10-13.log#L91
L59[07:56:10] <Lizzy> oh
L60[07:57:58] <Izaya> screensavers with accounts
L61[07:57:59] <Izaya> what next
L62[07:58:22] <Lizzy> weh?
L63[07:59:30] <Izaya> After Dark is screensavers
L64[07:59:43] * Lizzy is still confused
L65[07:59:52] <Forecaster> jokes!
L66[08:00:01] <Corded> * <Forecaster> plays laugh track
L67[08:00:27] <Inari> Dunno, it was explained to me that After Dark accounts (so AD accounts) is what people make for e.g. interacting with lewd projects on github
L68[08:05:55] <AmandaC> Not so much lewd, as a personal account for posting stuff you don't want public
L69[08:06:07] <AmandaC> Such as emotionally charged stutf
L70[08:07:27] <AmandaC> Stuff you don't want your potential employer to see after you apply for a new job
L71[08:08:00] <Inari> I guess, in the context it was about lewd stuff xD But I guess general stuff you don't want your everyday online persona attached to
L72[08:09:20] <AmandaC> Doesn't look like it's related to lewd stuff from what I read of the log
L73[08:09:33] <Inari> Totally is
L74[08:10:06] <Inari> Thats why they refused to tell me more about it! :p
L75[08:10:25] <AmandaC> Or, you know, it's serious stuff she doesn't want you lewding
L76[08:10:32] <Inari> Psh
L77[08:10:39] <Inari> I don't lewd all the stuff you know
L78[08:10:41] <AmandaC> Like why I don't speak of my sister that often in your presence
L79[08:10:51] <Inari> Rude :<
L80[08:11:54] <AmandaC> I don't understand why you keep trying to lewd my relationship with her, either, we're sisters, not brother and sister
L81[08:12:09] <Inari> I don't though
L82[08:14:14] <AmandaC> Then what's with the winky face every time I talk about being close to her
L83[08:15:45] <Inari> Thats a lot to interpret into a winky face :p Probably depends on the context. But "being close" always does sound kind of initmate
L84[08:19:45] <Forecaster> ...
L85[08:20:06] <AmandaC> %bap Inari
L86[08:20:07] * MichiBot baps Inari with carnivorous beef
L87[08:20:12] <Inari> :f
L88[08:20:59] <Inari> https://i.redd.it/iw5z53xrnp821.jpg
L89[08:21:41] <Forecaster> yeah! "playing" two space games at once!
L90[08:21:51] <Izaya> oh this After Dark accounts business is like having a second account on a less technically inclined instance for lewdposting
L91[08:21:52] <Inari> Which ones?
L92[08:21:54] <Izaya> that's p common
L93[08:21:59] <Izaya> carry on
L94[08:22:15] <Forecaster> Elite and EVE :P
L95[08:22:23] <Inari> Heh
L96[08:22:32] <Forecaster> and by "playing" I mean I'm watching my drones mine in EVE while flying in Elite
L97[08:22:34] <Inari> Just don't get attacked at the same time!
L98[08:22:38] <AmandaC> @Forecaster leaving the spreadsheet open for EVE doesn't count as "playing"
L99[08:22:50] <Forecaster> I don't have any spreadsheets :P
L100[08:23:04] <Forecaster> Inari I have a drone that defends my mining ship :P
L101[08:24:17] <Inari> Not if its shot down!
L102[08:24:52] * Izaya aims radio interference gun at Forecaster's drone
L103[08:25:27] <Forecaster> the random rats that appear are barely a threat to it
L104[08:25:29] <Forecaster> :P
L105[08:39:16] <S3> You know I should get back on Eve
L106[08:39:38] <S3> I bet my skill training is about done now, I had months of skill training lined up
L107[08:40:00] <Izaya> I have it installed but I'm not game to fire it up
L108[08:40:30] <Izaya> If it's as much of a time sink as I remember we'll have a problem
L109[08:40:38] <S3> I have the best occupation ever
L110[08:43:50] <S3> You see I played eve online for some years now, and I played for like a day and got really bored of it questing and stuff. By the end of the way a company of pirates came along and said hey, you wanna learn how to be a pirate? It was a large corp of very skilled pirates that were inducting noobs like me to expand their alliance. ever since then, I've been a pirate
L111[08:44:18] <S3> I'm still with that group too, it's so much more fun being a pirate
L112[08:44:44] <Izaya> as usual, fucking with other players is the best way to enjoy a multiplayer game
L113[08:45:59] <S3> Back when plex transport was extremely dangerous, you'd bring in a fleet of cheap ships into high sec, shoot down a freighter LOADED with plex, you'd get shot down by concord, but you'd be in a group with a scavenger ship
L114[08:46:08] <S3> then that ship in your group would pick up all the good loot
L115[08:46:25] <Izaya> plex used to be worth a lot more, too
L116[08:47:44] <S3> yeah don't you need multiple plex now to extend your licensE?
L117[08:48:44] <S3> have you ever been in an alliance war?
L118[08:49:13] <Izaya> nah I only played for two weeks
L119[08:49:20] <S3> I did back when I was doing the free trial years ago and I almost shit my pants
L120[08:49:48] <S3> hundreds and hundreds of ships
L121[08:49:57] <S3> each one hosting a player
L122[08:50:07] <S3> my framerate was awful
L123[08:50:12] <S3> but it was spectacular
L124[08:51:08] <Izaya> I was playing on a shitty Acer laptop with a Celery and first-gen Intel HD
L125[08:51:22] <Izaya> my framerate was awful with no ships on the screen :D
L126[08:59:37] <jackboy> Are there any method to organize massive web? So that it is possible to 1) search/index data easily 2)control 3) measure 4) optimize by avoiding duplication info or data 5)etc. Or any other thoughts
L127[09:05:56] <AmandaC> There's certinely algrothems for that, but nothing built into OC or OpenOS
L128[09:09:29] <ben_mkiv> https://i.imgur.com/qqfaf5S.png how is that shape called?
L129[09:09:36] <ben_mkiv> arguing with someone if its a prism or not -.-
L130[09:10:39] <Forecaster> a wedge!
L131[09:10:52] <Forecaster> although I guess that's more a usage :P
L132[09:12:29] <ben_mkiv> In solid geometry, a wedge is a polyhedron defined by two triangles and three trapezoid faces. A wedge has five faces, nine edges, and six vertices.
L133[09:12:33] <ben_mkiv> so no wedge
L134[09:45:19] <AmandaC> %give MichiBot A christ-infused spear
L135[09:45:19] * MichiBot accepts the christ-infused spear and adds it to her inventory
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L139[10:44:53] <⛈9> So, I popped in here because I'm in the middle of embarking on a library writing project and it occured to me I should ask if this obvious thing already exists in the community before I do more work on it.
L140[10:45:22] <AmandaC> thunderstorm 9? interesting choice for a nick
L141[10:46:32] <AmandaC> Also:
L142[10:46:34] <AmandaC> %hello
L143[10:46:34] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Hello! Welcome to #oc! The one and only opencomputers channel! Please ask your questions directly (dont ask to ask) and provide error/code examples! (Use pastebin.com if theyre more than one line!) Dont mind the random conversation you might have walked into.
L144[10:46:38] <⛈9> Specifically, I'm working on a crafting support library for robots. With stuff like, "Assemble this recipe" and "clear crafting grid", and "how much of this recipie do I have" using both internal and external inventories for management.
L145[10:46:49] <⛈9> Does this already exist?
L146[10:47:01] <AmandaC> I think someone in here was making something like that,but forget who
L147[10:47:10] <AmandaC> and there's no problem with NIH in games, imho
L148[10:47:27] <⛈9> Well
L149[10:47:35] <⛈9> If it already exists I'd rather focus on a different project ?
L150[10:47:38] <AmandaC> ( As long aas you don't expec teveryone under th esun to switch to your new thing )
L151[10:47:44] <⛈9> I just need something to help me build all the computers I want.
L152[10:47:56] <ben_mkiv> please make something that parses crafttweaker recipe output :>
L153[10:48:03] <ben_mkiv> to craft anything by itemname
L154[10:48:04] <⛈9> My other project is a drone automation sorter that uses sign readers and chests to "learn" sorting rules for a factory floor.
L155[10:48:21] <⛈9> The way I've been training recipies is a small snippet of code to leverage the RF Tools workbench
L156[10:48:32] <ben_mkiv> theres a command to dump all recipes with crafttweaker :>
L157[10:48:36] <⛈9> This object has observable slots for input AND output, so you can rapidly train stuff via JEI just by + clicking.
L158[10:48:37] <Forecaster> cloud 9? :P
L159[10:48:58] <AmandaC> @Forecaster I assume it's either a misundertanding of the emoji, or a meta joke
L160[10:49:00] <⛈9> People get weird about my normal name.
L161[10:49:20] <⛈9> It's "stormcloud 9"
L162[10:49:24] <AmandaC> ah
L163[10:49:29] <⛈9> So both?
L164[10:49:30] <⛈9> ?
L165[10:49:32] <AmandaC> :P
L166[10:49:41] <AmandaC> %choose veg out more or try and play with code
L167[10:49:42] <MichiBot> AmandaC: The proof is in the pudding. Definitely veg out more.
L168[10:50:06] <AmandaC> ... What kind of godessless heathen puts veggies in a pudding!?
L169[10:50:54] <AmandaC> %smite the goddessless heathen who puts veggies in a pudding
L170[10:50:56] <AmandaC> :(
L171[10:51:19] <⛈9> As for parsing crafttweaker output, IDK. I wouldn't do that in OC.
L172[10:51:42] <⛈9> I would do that offline. Maybe upload a data file to S3 or a query interface to Firebase.
L173[10:53:47] <ben_mkiv> and querry the database from within lua? that sounds good, too
L174[10:53:51] <ben_mkiv> but could get slow
L175[10:56:00] <⛈9> Uh, you'd want to dump it to a dis.
L176[10:56:16] <⛈9> What I was planning to do with my crafting program was use the file system as a itemstack database.
L177[10:56:53] <⛈9> What's nice about that is that it's very easy to pre-load robots, etc and also upload via wifi since there are no bundled file transfer protocols.
L178[10:58:21] <⛈9> I really wish Robots had pullable disks precisely for this reason. ?
L179[11:01:02] <AmandaC> You can put a disk drive in an upgrade slot
L180[11:01:10] <AmandaC> and then you can put floppy disks in it
L181[11:04:17] <⛈9> Oh my god I didn't know that.
L182[11:04:26] <⛈9> ... Wow. Been doing it the hard way ?
L183[11:05:03] <⛈9> I dunno if that changes my desire to have pullanle hard disks.
L184[11:05:10] <⛈9> But to the disassembler I go!
L185[11:11:19] <AmandaC> you can do that with tablets as well
L186[11:12:20] <⛈9> Does that mean Microcontrollers can take that as well?
L187[11:12:24] <AmandaC> no
L188[11:12:28] <⛈9> Haha
L189[11:12:31] <AmandaC> just tablets and robots
L190[11:12:50] <⛈9> I want to like Microcontrollers. But I just keep using small computers for my builds.
L191[11:12:56] <⛈9> MCs are so hard to test code on.
L192[11:13:06] <AmandaC> I've got like half a dozen microcontrollers in my base now
L193[11:13:13] <AmandaC> each are controlling a security door
L194[11:13:19] <⛈9> I've been trying to get one set up to manage my IC2 wind farms.
L195[11:13:32] <⛈9> They can move objects, monitor IC2 batteries, so it should be easy
L196[11:13:35] <AmandaC> The trick for them is to use them with something to net-boot the eeprom
L197[11:14:01] <⛈9> I wish that was a standard program, or even remotely understandable ?
L198[11:14:18] <⛈9> Also, I like to turn off my computers and netboot them to run one task then go back to sleep.
L199[11:14:26] <⛈9> This doesn't work at all with net-boots.
L200[11:14:56] <AmandaC> my PXE system can have it's rom defined dynamically
L201[11:15:14] <⛈9> Is it public? Can i see it?
L202[11:15:15] <AmandaC> in fact, if it detects the PXE eeprom is out of date, it redirects it to an updater booter
L203[11:15:46] <AmandaC> It's kinda tied deeply into my base-level network, but it's all available at https://gitlab.darkdna.net/amanda/oc-fileserver/
L204[11:16:30] <AmandaC> This specifically is the EEPROM part: https://gitlab.darkdna.net/amanda/oc-fileserver/blob/master/eeprom/custom/hb-pxe.lua
L205[11:16:55] <⛈9> So I'm playing Enigmatica 2: Expert, and there is TONS of need for comprehensive factory crafting.
L206[11:17:01] <⛈9> That's why I'm on this kick.
L207[11:17:09] <⛈9> It seems like you'reusing robots for building stuff?
L208[11:17:26] <AmandaC> nah. I use RS's autocrafting
L209[11:17:33] <AmandaC> but I'm playing my own pack
L210[11:17:47] <AmandaC> I even tweaked a few recipies in the pack to make some shit easier / more inter-active
L211[11:18:03] <AmandaC> like adding a rotten flesh -> blood recipe to the magma crucible
L212[11:18:35] <⛈9> Like for example, you need thousands of treated wood
L213[11:18:47] <⛈9> A robot with a single-purpose program is a good candidate for a treated wood craft.
L214[11:18:57] <AmandaC> yeaah, I'm not fond of such packs with such insane things
L215[11:19:12] <⛈9> Well, what I like about it is it makes OC a LOT more meaningful ?
L216[11:19:25] <Forecaster> Woodcraft? what is this, some kind of carpentry simulator?
L217[11:19:52] <⛈9> No, the default vanilla chest recipe needs either 4 tinker's tough tool rods or 4 treated wood
L218[11:20:03] <⛈9> Basically crafting recipie chain depth increase.
L219[11:21:12] <⛈9> Forecaster: Treated wood crafting is a bucket of creosote oil surrounded by planks. As a principle, it should be really good for a robot to do.
L220[11:21:32] <⛈9> But, the robot crafting & inventory management API is so basic, it's kinda a pain to specify this stuff.
L221[11:24:31] <Forecaster> it was just a word joke but sure
L222[11:34:22] <⛈9> AmandaC, I'd really love to see how this stuff all hangs together. A lot of really interesting code in that repo.
L223[11:35:31] <⛈9> It seems like you've actually got something of a lua dev environment as well. I can't even get luarocks to install on any machine I have access to :\
L224[11:38:14] <S3> Damn insurrance is going up like crazy
L225[11:38:47] <S3> progressive is charging me $150/month as a 30 year old with like one accident that didn't even damage anything
L226[11:38:54] <AmandaC> I've got luacheck working (or, did at one point?) with a vscode plugin to run it after every save
L227[11:39:19] <S3> I should call them up and threaten to cancel service because it's too expensive
L228[11:39:23] <S3> see what they say
L229[11:39:53] <S3> my original rate was $75 a month
L230[11:41:43] <⛈9> What's reading the @metadata? ?
L231[11:42:49] <AmandaC> This library is parsing it, it's used in a few places in the lilac daemon itself: https://gitlab.darkdna.net/amanda/oc-fileserver/blob/master/common/lib/encoding/lua_metadata.lua
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L233[11:46:16] <AmandaC> This is where the version is parsed out of the pxe for the updater: https://gitlab.darkdna.net/amanda/oc-fileserver/blob/master/lilac/server/lib/commands/pxe.lua#L26-43
L234[11:46:48] <AmandaC> and then here is for an RPC call getting a list of available eeproms (based off a configuration value passed to the daemon) https://gitlab.darkdna.net/amanda/oc-fileserver/blob/master/lilac/server/lib/commands/pxe.lua#L85-104
L235[11:47:47] <AmandaC> I'm on the fence on if I want to make any kind of auto-discovery of them, since the rest of my code assumes that `fs.list` won't work in the fileserver portion
L236[11:48:14] <AmandaC> ( gitlabfs is how I'd use it on a server, not how I'm currently doing it which is a disk I rsync to )
L237[11:48:55] <ebopalisesy> random question: why are blocks highlighted green when you look at them with a tablet?
L238[11:49:38] <AmandaC> @ebopalisesy because with some upgrades you can "use" the tablet on the block with a shift-long-rightclick and it'll fire a `tablet_use` event with data
L239[11:50:01] <Forecaster> like the piston upgrade
L240[11:50:05] <ebopalisesy> ah
L241[11:50:19] <AmandaC> @ebopalisesy for example, the sign reader, and with a PR I've got open, you can put an analyzer in a tablet and then scan component IDs
L242[11:50:43] <ebopalisesy> is there any way to copy the component id of an item / network card?
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L244[11:51:07] <AmandaC> not with my PR, no
L245[11:51:12] <ebopalisesy> ?
L246[11:51:24] <AmandaC> but most of my network stuff assumes the network ID or the computer address, s I'm not in a hurry to implement it.
L247[11:52:02] <AmandaC> I considered adding it, but waiting for feedback from payonel for if it'd be wanted in the mod.
L248[11:52:46] <AmandaC> It barely fits into the logic I have for the feature, which is that usually new shines have a barcode / sticker on the back which gives you the MAC address of a device, and in my mind the component UUID = MAC address
L249[12:09:33] <t20kdc> that makes sense
L250[12:09:50] <t20kdc> although it's more like a serial number, new shinies also tend to have those too
L251[12:10:07] <t20kdc> and for network devices, it really is the MAC address
L252[12:10:15] <t20kdc> or closest equivalent
L253[12:10:34] <AmandaC> shinies also tend to list the MAC in case your wifi has MAC filtering
L254[12:10:57] <AmandaC> I'm pretty sure it's printed on a sticker on the back of the Switch I have at least
L255[12:11:23] <AmandaC> ( The game console, that is )
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L257[12:22:21] <ebopalisesy> is there any documentation on the network floppy / how routing etc. works with that?
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L260[12:35:28] <S3> I need to write a parser for this:
L261[12:35:29] <S3> https://hastebin.com/noyiduyige.sh
L262[12:35:51] <S3> Shouldn't be too bad
L263[12:44:35] <Forecaster> wellp, done did 96 jumps because I was dumb and forgot to re-dock to the Gnosis before it jumped away
L264[12:44:40] <Forecaster> so I had to catch up with it
L265[12:45:16] <Ernos> What game @Forecaster?
L266[12:45:24] <Forecaster> Elite
L267[12:45:44] <Ernos> ahh cool, I play elite a good but, what ship do you fly?
L268[12:46:19] <Ernos> ahh cool, I play elite a good bit, what ship do you fly? [Edited]
L269[12:46:38] <Forecaster> Python currently
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L272[13:01:19] <Forecaster> http://tinyurl.com/yd4cu5an
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L274[13:05:43] <Wattana Gaming> Did anyone know Ballandpaddle on Youtube? He/she remake musics in FamiTracker and it sometimes even sound better than the original version
L275[13:09:53] <simon816> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbO0tqH8f5I Insanity
L276[13:09:53] <MichiBot> [Minecraft Computer Engineering] - Quad-Core Redstone Computer v5.0 [12k sub special!] | length: 31m 17s | Likes: 1,911 Dislikes: 30 Views: 20,136 | by legomasta99 | Published On 30/12/2018
L277[13:10:26] <ZefTheFox> Dude at one point I made some minecraft computers, not nearly as impressive though
L278[13:10:32] <ZefTheFox> Tiny and not even true 8 bit
L279[13:10:43] <ZefTheFox> I also used projectred in it
L280[13:11:01] <simon816> I started making one. Built a RAM module and shift register. Didn't get any further
L281[13:11:40] <ZefTheFox> https://youtu.be/VQcdfix9IKA
L282[13:11:41] <ZefTheFox> https://youtu.be/Ghra2W7ahHk
L283[13:11:41] <MichiBot> My first 8-bit Computer | length: 2m 10s | Likes: 1 Dislikes: 0 Views: 15 | by Zef The Fox | Published On 11/2/2018
L284[13:11:42] <MichiBot> My second 8-bit Minecraft Computer | length: 1m 58s | Likes: 0 Dislikes: 0 Views: 18 | by Zef The Fox | Published On 11/2/2018
L285[13:12:01] <ZefTheFox> First one used drawbridges as ram
L286[13:12:07] <Mimiru> %tonk
L287[13:12:07] <MichiBot> Dogast! Mimiru! You beat stephan48's previous record of 8 hours, 7 minutes and 28 seconds! I hope you're happy!
L288[13:12:08] <MichiBot> Mimiru's new record is 11 hours, 22 minutes and 53 seconds! 3 hours, 15 minutes and 25 seconds gained!
L289[13:12:25] <ZefTheFox> >:
L290[13:14:37] <ebopalisesy> how do you get output back from the nanomachines? i don't seem to be getting any response when i do `component.modem.broadcast(1, 'nanomachines', 'getHealth')` but i am able to turn inputs on/off
L291[13:15:23] <Forecaster> are you listening on the port the nanomachines respond on?
L292[13:15:33] <ZefTheFox> You have to set a port for them to respond on
L293[13:15:36] <ZefTheFox> then listen to it
L294[13:16:12] <ebopalisesy> oh oops
L295[13:16:37] <ebopalisesy> thank
L296[13:16:47] <Forecaster> welc
L297[13:27:27] <Forecaster> I said Pyrhon, I mean Anaconda...
L298[13:58:40] <ebopalisesy> can you rotate a drone?
L299[14:00:35] <payonel> @ebopalisesy (and AmandaC) anything you load via require is cached in package.loaded, thus "once"
L300[14:09:01] <Forecaster> what do you mean by "rotate a drone"?
L301[14:12:23] <ebopalisesy> i guess that doesn't really make sense if drone move coordinates are absolute
L302[14:44:14] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L303[14:44:14] <MichiBot> I'm sorry CompanionCube, you were not able to beat Mimiru's record of 11 hours, 22 minutes and 53 seconds this time.
L304[14:44:15] <MichiBot> 1 hour, 32 minutes and 7 seconds were wasted! Missed by 9 hours, 50 minutes and 46 seconds!
L305[14:44:29] <CompanionCube> someone should tonk out
L306[14:49:28] <Wattana Gaming> http://tinyurl.com/y944ay7u
L307[14:50:25] <Kleadron> time to put it in the microwave to fix it
L308[14:57:38] <Forecaster> That is horrific
L309[15:01:22] <Bob> delete system32
L310[15:23:43] <Mimiru> %tonkout
L311[15:23:44] <MichiBot> Mimiru has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.011 tonk points! Current score: 0.011
L312[15:23:56] <Mimiru> ...
L313[15:23:59] <⛈9> Is there a usable rsh implementation for OpenComputers?
L314[15:24:26] <Michiyo> %tonkpoints
L315[15:24:27] <MichiBot> Michiyo: I can't find any record, so you have 0 points.
L316[15:24:28] <t20kdc> %tonk
L317[15:24:29] <MichiBot> Dad-Sizzle! t20kdc! You beat Mimiru's previous record of <0! I hope you're happy!
L318[15:24:30] <MichiBot> t20kdc's new record is 45 seconds! 45 seconds gained!
L319[15:24:42] <Michiyo> .. ok so the point tracking has to be broken then.
L320[15:24:59] <Mimiru> cause I had more than 0 points.
L321[15:25:23] <Kleadron> %tonk
L322[15:25:38] <Mimiru> 60 second timer..
L323[15:25:56] <Kleadron> how was i supposed to know
L324[15:29:28] <t20kdc> ...what if I tonk myself
L325[15:29:30] <t20kdc> %tonk
L326[15:29:32] <MichiBot> t20kdc's new record is 5 minutes and 1 second! 4 minutes and 16 seconds gained!
L327[15:29:31] <MichiBot> Waesucks! t20kdc! You beat your own previous record of 45 seconds! I hope you're happy!
L328[15:29:55] <Mimiru> %tonk
L329[15:29:56] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Mimiru, you were not able to beat t20kdc's record of 5 minutes and 1 second this time.
L330[15:29:57] <MichiBot> 25 seconds were wasted! Missed by 4 minutes and 36 seconds!
L331[15:30:29] <t20kdc> ...I am reminded of the phrase "I'm just going to keep having my turn until you give up".
L332[15:30:42] <t20kdc> Not that I'll actually do that, but it just sounds... similar to the situation.
L333[15:31:23] <Mimiru> Seriously wondering why that was switched back...
L334[15:32:00] <t20kdc> yeah, if I was evil I could just tonk in about 3 minutes
L335[15:34:07] <t20kdc> I wonder, what is the purpose of tonking?
L336[15:34:18] <Mimiru> to tonk
L337[15:34:25] <t20kdc> And of tonking out?
L338[15:34:49] <t20kdc> %tonkout
L339[15:34:50] <MichiBot> t20kdc has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.0 tonk points! Current score: 0.0
L340[15:35:35] <t20kdc> So... you gain 0.001 tonk points per hour
L341[15:35:59] <t20kdc> assuming you tonk out
L342[15:36:18] <t20kdc> but what is the purpose of tonk points?
L343[15:36:34] <Mimiru> to amas points, for tonking out
L344[15:36:44] <Mimiru> amass*
L345[15:37:05] <⛈9> As everyone knows, humans love slowly incrementing numbers and hate any sort of subtraction.
L346[15:37:11] <⛈9> That's he basis of human civilization.
L347[15:40:11] <t20kdc> ...Cloud-nine, may I ask why you refer to us as 'humans'?
L348[15:40:13] <ebopalisesy> see gdp, population, etc.
L349[15:40:33] <ebopalisesy> %tonk
L350[15:40:36] <MichiBot> Dagnabbit! ebopalisesy! You beat t20kdc's previous record of <0! I hope you're happy!
L351[15:40:37] <MichiBot> ebopalisesy's new record is 5 minutes and 44 seconds! 5 minutes and 44 seconds gained!
L352[15:40:45] <ebopalisesy> uh
L353[15:40:58] <t20kdc> I tonked out, so the timer reset.
L354[15:41:09] <ebopalisesy> what is tonk
L355[15:41:20] <Mimiru> it's tonk
L356[15:41:25] <t20kdc> ...
L357[15:41:25] <ebopalisesy> me too thanks
L358[15:41:33] <t20kdc> In lieu of an official explaination,
L359[15:41:53] <t20kdc> tonk is a game in which one person holds the 'tonk'. As they hold it, the amount of time they have been holding it increases.
L360[15:42:17] <t20kdc> When that time increases past the amount of time the last person was holding it,
L361[15:42:41] <t20kdc> another person can tonk.
L362[15:43:08] <ebopalisesy> hm
L363[15:43:11] <t20kdc> Tonking resets the timer, so another person tonks before then,
L364[15:43:18] <t20kdc> time is 'wasted'.
L365[15:43:49] <t20kdc> A person is (apparently) able to receive the tonk from themselves, meaning that the timer is reset but the amount of time until the next non-wasted tonk still increases.
L366[15:44:10] <ebopalisesy> %tonkout
L367[15:44:11] <MichiBot> ebopalisesy has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.0 tonk points! Current score: 0.0
L368[15:45:03] <t20kdc> BTW, this explaination is probably all sorts of incorrect in places. This explaination comes with no warranty.
L369[15:45:17] <t20kdc> This explaination may or may not only make sense if holding a piece of cheese.
L370[15:46:27] <⛈9> I mean, any computer interfacing with this network is going to be either at the behest of a human, or so shaped by human cognition and behavior that at the end of the day the best it can aspire to be as a more consistent and less flexible human. ?
L371[15:47:57] <t20kdc> ...AmandaC, we need your skills as a robot psychologist.
L372[15:48:52] <AmandaC> But I'm retired! I've seen all there is to see, so I ducked out of the hard robot psychologist life!
L373[15:49:04] <⛈9> ... Soft robots?
L374[15:49:06] <Forecaster> I don't see why you shouldn't be able to beat your own record though
L375[15:49:29] <Forecaster> You still have to be on top of it or someone can claim it
L376[15:49:43] <Kleadron> a portal speedrunner beat his own record
L377[15:49:45] <Forecaster> Someone else*
L378[15:51:59] <⛈9> Whew, Lua is hard work. I'm not used to thinking this hard about table manipulation.
L379[16:03:28] <Lizzy> https://files.theender.net/20190106-2153.mp4 OwO
L380[16:15:58] <Rph> %tonk
L381[16:16:07] <Rph> doesn't work from discord :(
L382[16:16:18] <Rph> or something is broken
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L384[16:19:01] <⛈9> So if I want to do stuff with inventories or by watching, say, the level of a battery or a reactor
L385[16:19:03] <Inari> Forecaster: E:D is pretty fun when playing with someone
L386[16:19:07] <⛈9> I can never use microcontrollers to do that.
L387[16:19:16] <⛈9> That's always either robots or computers?
L388[16:19:27] <Rph> robots can't interact with external components either, IIRC
L389[16:19:30] <Rph> so computers
L390[16:19:41] <⛈9> So computers, exclusively,c an use adapters.
L391[16:19:45] <⛈9> That's not even an upgrade?
L392[16:19:52] <Rph> IIRC, yes
L393[16:20:06] <Rph> neither robots nor microcnotrollers can interface with components not placed inside them during assembly
L394[16:20:46] <⛈9> I guess microcontrollers pretty much exclusively exist to be an interface between wireless cards and redstone, pistons and signs ?
L395[16:24:36] <ben_mkiv> and doorcontrollers :P
L396[16:25:01] <⛈9> It's weird then how much more empowered drones are.
L397[16:25:14] <⛈9> But I guess the goal is not to have microcontrollers supercede robots.
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L403[17:12:13] <payonel> @"⛈9" lua hard? if you have any questions, i should be a good resource
L404[17:12:47] <⛈9> It's not, uh well it's not that it's hard in that sense.
L405[17:13:00] <⛈9> But which version of lua are we running here?
L406[17:13:11] <⛈9> I am surprised that "arg" is nil in my functions that take a ... argument
L407[17:13:15] <ben_mkiv> https://i.imgur.com/zELqRr0.png
L408[17:13:22] <ben_mkiv> https://i.imgur.com/JfCwLjC.png
L409[17:13:26] <⛈9> I thought it was 5.3?
L410[17:13:30] <ben_mkiv> https://i.imgur.com/x2gbpIC.png
L411[17:13:30] <ben_mkiv> :>
L412[17:13:33] <payonel> @"⛈9" 5.2 and 5.3
L413[17:13:36] <payonel> 5.3 is default
L414[17:14:02] <payonel> and ... does not make arg magically have a value, try: `local arg = ...`
L415[17:14:09] <⛈9> ah
L416[17:14:58] <⛈9> I'm a haskell programmer usually, so lua is just very... uh...
L417[17:15:15] <⛈9> Typically I operate at a different level of abstraction than this.
L418[17:15:22] <⛈9> Thank you for the clarification ?
L419[17:15:30] <payonel> so do many of us :) i'm a c++ programmer, normally
L420[17:15:48] <⛈9> I am sad I can't fit a sign reader on my drone. WIsh I had 1 more upgrade.
L421[17:15:56] <⛈9> Then I could make it teach itself in the world.
L422[17:16:03] <⛈9> My dreams: dashed.
L423[17:16:17] <stephan48> have a second drone follow the first and make them communicate?
L424[17:16:41] <⛈9> Sounds "fun" but this is for a survival build.
L425[17:16:57] <⛈9> I'd like to be able to share it with other people, and that sounds like a lot of setup.
L426[17:17:09] <⛈9> I'm trying to improve drone_sort so it's useful.
L427[17:17:13] <ben_mkiv> why the sign upgrade?
L428[17:17:28] <⛈9> Becuase then you could make a stack of chests with signs n them
L429[17:17:33] <⛈9> and then put what you want to sort into the chests.
L430[17:17:44] <ben_mkiv> ah
L431[17:17:55] <⛈9> And then the drone could refer to the item stacks for sort guidance.
L432[17:17:59] <ben_mkiv> you got navigation upgrade? then you could use waypoints
L433[17:18:14] <ben_mkiv> which is quicker to find for the drone anyways
L434[17:18:26] <⛈9> Haha, I guess I _could_ do that. That's a LOT of waypoints.
L435[17:18:57] <ben_mkiv> you can set names like {"minecraft:glass", "minecraft:sand"}
L436[17:18:59] <⛈9> You'd have one for each training chest, one for every system input, one for every system output, and the default input and output.
L437[17:19:04] <ben_mkiv> or even shorter and deserialize in the drone
L438[17:19:28] <⛈9> I don't think the maximum size of the waypoint data is big enough to handle something like a modded minecraft ore sorting job.
L439[17:19:41] <ben_mkiv> yea, but so are signs
L440[17:20:01] <⛈9> but I only need to encode the recommended "step" for the itemstacks in the chest
L441[17:20:12] <⛈9> So a sign could read "smelt" "decay" "macerate"
L442[17:20:29] <ben_mkiv> but i would use a robot anyways xD
L443[17:20:36] <ben_mkiv> more inventory, more upgrades, etc.
L444[17:20:44] <⛈9> Seems super slow tho?
L445[17:21:12] <ben_mkiv> depends on your program
L446[17:21:18] <ben_mkiv> as you can carry more than 8? stacks
L447[17:21:21] <⛈9> I mean even just moving point to point.
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L449[17:21:39] <u0_a278> hello
L450[17:21:41] <⛈9> But yeah, I guess a robot could certainly do the task.
L451[17:21:47] <u0_a278> heh
L452[17:21:59] <u0_a278> using linux terminal to chst on this thing
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L455[17:30:21] <u0_a278> hi
L456[17:31:32] <⛈9> Okay if I am using a robot, is there a good robot pathing tool?
L457[17:32:14] <u0_a278> Peanut butter jelly time
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L459[17:39:54] <u0_a278> peanut butter jelly time
L460[17:40:09] <u0_a278> hdgrhvhddbdbbdbdv
L461[17:40:11] <u0_a278> xjhdhduehrggrhrhrhrgr
L462[17:40:14] <u0_a278> fjhegrfvtvvtvrvrvr
L463[17:40:17] <u0_a278> fnndvdgfgfhrgrgdvfbf
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L471[18:54:55] <S3> good news!
L472[18:55:08] <S3> I found my landline answering machine
L473[18:55:35] <S3> bad news...
L474[18:55:47] <S3> some idiot parked on the other side of my street
L475[18:55:55] <S3> so now nobody can get in our one way street
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L479[19:43:57] <Mimiru> %tonk
L480[19:44:06] <Mimiru> I see
L481[19:44:12] <Mimiru> michibot crashed
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L483[20:26:34] <LilNoU> I have an important question
L484[20:26:50] <LilNoU> Would anyone like to see it?
L485[20:31:04] <MGR> %hello
L486[20:31:26] <MGR> Oh, it died
L487[20:31:30] <MGR> Yes
L488[20:36:32] <S3> soooo
L489[20:36:49] <TheFox> Hell froze
L490[20:36:57] <S3> pretty much
L491[20:37:02] <S3> I've been working more on my book
L492[20:37:51] <TheFox> Shall we commence in anarchy now that MichiBot is gone?
L493[20:37:51] <TheFox> You can be that one calm guy that sits in the middle of the chaos bc everyone is too scared to interrupt you
L494[20:38:34] <S3> Lol
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L497[20:38:39] <Mimiru> %tonk
L498[20:38:48] <S3> that's usually me
L499[20:39:13] <MichiBot> Aw jeez! Mimiru! You beat ebopalisesy's previous record of <0! I hope you're happy!
L500[20:39:14] <MichiBot> Mimiru's new record is 4 hours, 54 minutes and 59 seconds! 4 hours, 54 minutes and 59 seconds gained!
L501[20:39:33] <TheFox> What just happened
L502[20:39:54] <S3> Mimiru: I decided to get some VPSes to pair with my OVH dedi
L503[20:40:12] <S3> I found out that ramnode sells 512MB ram 10GB disk and single core VMs for $3 a piece
L504[20:40:27] <S3> so I was able to spawn up some VMs for things like DNS and email for cheap :D
L505[20:40:39] <Mimiru> Nice, I've got a DO droplet 1/20GB for $5 iirc
L506[20:40:59] <Mimiru> it's my secondary NS
L507[20:41:48] <Mimiru> No, wait that's my AWS box since it's free for a year
L508[20:41:52] <Mimiru> I dropped my DO for now
L509[20:42:55] <S3> oh yeah how is aws
L510[20:42:59] <S3> or ec2 or whatever
L511[20:43:06] <Mimiru> It's pretty good
L512[20:43:17] <S3> I've been wanting an erlang / Elixir server thing, is ec2 good for that?
L513[20:43:30] <S3> can I just spawn up 50 cores or something?
L514[20:44:07] <Mimiru> No idea, the free tier is very limited "micro" instances
L515[20:44:13] <S3> huh
L516[20:44:48] <S3> I've been looking for a good solution to elastic cluster computing
L517[20:45:00] <S3> where I can do zomething like a Xen zerg where I can just spawn up nodes at will
L518[20:45:07] <S3> as many as I need to scale to
L519[20:45:53] <S3> Unfortunately I never had a cpu bitcoin cluster I wanted to build back in the days of cpu mining so I don't have a machine to test it personally
L520[20:50:49] <S3> there
L521[20:51:01] <S3> I'm kind of curious on feedback of this one
L522[20:52:00] <S3> My book has several letters in it that this small group of people find almost 75 years later after they were written. I just finished one of them. I kind of like them because I can put them anywhere and the fill in the gaps.
L523[20:52:40] <S3> But this particular letter is perhaps the best one I've done so far
L524[21:22:15] <Izaya> So #KSPOfficial is quieter than here nowadays
L525[21:22:23] <Izaya> How bizarre
L526[21:32:44] <ebopalisesy> ksp discord server is pretty active
L527[21:49:14] <TheFox> A lot of them are >.>
L528[21:56:18] <Izaya> That explains a lot.
L529[21:56:33] <Izaya> Oh well, #KSPOfficial is still around so bugger it
L530[21:56:40] <Izaya> It's just a lot quieter than I remember :<
L531[21:59:13] <Ernos> hmm, anyone know why my drone.move() command now throws an error?
L532[21:59:38] <Ernos> nvm
L533[21:59:40] <Ernos> fixed
L534[22:00:40] <Ernos> restarted the control program
L535[22:12:28] <TheFox> Recommend then Corded, Izaya
L536[22:12:42] <Izaya> Hah
L537[22:13:05] <Izaya> Nah, the more Discord-free places on the internet, the better.
L538[22:14:53] <Ernos> for the drone.suck command's side input, what number is the bottom side of the drone?
L539[22:14:59] <Izaya> 0
L540[22:15:03] <Ernos> thanks
L541[22:15:08] <Izaya> ~w sides
L542[22:15:08] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:sides
L543[22:15:26] <Ernos> thanks
L544[22:15:28] <Izaya> has a listing, though I don't think the drones can use any besides up and down
L545[22:15:52] <Ernos> How do I used the drone.suck command? I am doing drone.suck(0,46) to pull 46 items out of the chest below it
L546[22:15:55] <Ernos> but it isnt working
L547[22:16:54] <Izaya> I'm not sure the docs are 100% on that
L548[22:17:05] <Izaya> oh wait
L549[22:17:11] <Izaya> no I think that one is to suck up dropped items
L550[22:17:18] <Ernos> ahh
L551[22:17:25] <Izaya> You'll need an
L552[22:17:29] <Izaya> ~w inventory controller
L553[22:17:29] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:inventory_controller
L554[22:17:34] <Ernos> I have one
L555[22:17:41] <Ernos> brb, gotta restart PC
L556[22:47:18] <Kodos> %tonk
L557[22:47:20] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Kodos, you were not able to beat Mimiru's record of 4 hours, 54 minutes and 59 seconds this time.
L558[22:47:21] <MichiBot> 2 hours, 8 minutes and 8 seconds were wasted! Missed by 2 hours, 46 minutes and 50 seconds!
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L560[22:53:13] ⇦ Quits: rashy (rashy!~rashdanml@d24-156-232-46.home4.cgocable.net) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
L561[22:54:37] <Ernos> %tonk
L562[22:54:38] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Ernos, you were not able to beat Mimiru's record of 4 hours, 54 minutes and 59 seconds this time.
L563[22:54:39] <MichiBot> 7 minutes and 18 seconds were wasted! Missed by 4 hours, 47 minutes and 40 seconds!
L564[22:57:02] <Ernos> I'm back
L565[22:57:30] <Ernos> what is %tonk
L566[22:59:59] <Izaya> it's multiplayer idlerpg with some poker mixed in
L567[23:10:42] <ZefTheFox> It's an open world action/adventure rpg with 4 different classes and over 700 story branches
L568[23:10:59] <Izaya> https://closet.sergal.org/sergal-assets/media_attachments/files/000/838/899/original/e8f60100e395caa1.mp4
L569[23:16:33] <ZefTheFox> Cheese?!
L570[23:39:21] ⇦ Quits: Thutmose (Thutmose!~Patrick@host-69-59-79-181.nctv.com) (Quit: Leaving.)
L571[23:49:43] <Kleadron> swiss army cheese
L572[23:53:18] <ZefTheFox> Sergals are cheese
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