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L2[00:09:25] <Izaya> add a modem to the tablet?
L3[00:26:59] <Forecaster> %tonk
L4[00:27:00] <MichiBot> Forecaster! You beat Mimiru's previous record of 3 hours, 31 minutes and 53 seconds! I hope you're happy!
L5[00:27:01] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 4 hours, 5 minutes and 40 seconds
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L8[02:48:34] <Lizzy> %potion
L9[02:48:34] <MichiBot> Lizzy: You get a viscous sky blue potion
L10[02:48:38] <Lizzy> %drink ^
L11[02:48:38] <MichiBot> Lizzy loses one point of speed.
L12[02:48:56] <Lizzy> MichiBot, we need to talk about your potion brewing habits
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L14[04:33:12] <Inari> .
L15[04:33:34] <Inari> AmandaC: haha, nice
L16[04:33:48] <Inari> payonel / AmandaC: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/343098286187741187/530227452715466772/3c9e466.png
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L18[05:15:26] <logan2611> internet must still be garbage
L19[05:16:23] <Izaya> eternal garbage
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L23[07:22:48] <Kodos> %tonk
L24[07:22:48] <MichiBot> Kodos! You beat Forecaster's previous record of 4 hours, 5 minutes and 40 seconds! I hope you're happy!
L25[07:22:49] <MichiBot> Kodos's new record is 6 hours, 55 minutes and 48 seconds
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L27[08:03:57] <Forecaster> aw
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L30[09:15:25] <AmandaC> %choose be cautious of the head-ouch or listen to those three good, good boys
L31[09:15:25] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Some listen to those three good, good boys sounds nice
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L33[09:52:16] <S3> dafuq
L34[10:03:10] <Forecaster> ?!
L35[10:07:37] <AmandaC> ( A podcast named My Brother, My Brother, and Me )
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L40[10:27:19] <veesus mikel heir> greetings
L41[10:33:10] <veesus mikel heir> i love this mod
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L44[10:57:14] <ben_mkiv> Mimiru, what do you think about more logical handling of stuff in opensecurity? xD
L45[10:57:34] <ben_mkiv> like actually entity detectors energy usage is 5 * radius
L46[10:57:44] <ben_mkiv> which isnt really how it would work in the real world
L47[10:59:21] <ben_mkiv> iirc you need 4x power for doubling distance without loss of signal quality
L48[11:03:54] <Rph> if everything in OC were realistic, you'd be building PCB fabrication plants and drawing CPUs by hand
L49[11:05:12] <ben_mkiv> ...
L50[11:05:38] <ben_mkiv> because cpus are drawn by hand...
L51[11:05:49] <ben_mkiv> like i did for my last cpu
L52[11:05:52] <Rph> Well you need a template to make silicon from
L53[11:06:25] <Rph> modern CPUs aren't done by hand anymore but the first ones could very well have been
L54[11:06:34] <ben_mkiv> it could be at least blocks*blocks to have a specific amount of energy used for each block
L55[11:06:45] <ben_mkiv> well the first ones obviously have been drawn by hand xD
L56[11:09:55] <veesus mikel heir> the first cpus weren't even on silicon were they
L57[11:09:58] <veesus mikel heir> everything was all analog
L58[11:10:17] <Rph> well this is true
L59[11:10:22] <Rph> but I was talking about silicon technology, mostly
L60[11:10:39] <Rph> also soldering 1000 components to a PCB, fun!
L61[11:14:51] <veesus mikel heir> silicons overrated
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L64[11:22:04] <Bob> old cpus were logic gates
L65[11:22:23] <Bob> we would use redstone contraptions
L66[11:23:00] <Rph> projectred IC gates :^)
L67[11:24:37] <ben_mkiv> yes redstone logic is pretty much what the first cpus where made of xD
L68[11:24:47] <ben_mkiv> also moderns, but on a larger scale
L69[11:24:54] <Rph> well smaller scale
L70[11:24:57] <Rph> first CPUs used big lamps
L71[11:25:02] <Rph> modern CPUs use 10 nm transistors
L72[11:25:09] <ben_mkiv> larger scale of component count was what i meant
L73[11:25:18] <Rph> ah, in this case that is true
L74[11:25:43] <ben_mkiv> wonder if anyone ever made a mechanic cpu
L75[11:25:50] <ben_mkiv> like with water
L76[11:26:13] <Rph> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNuPy-r1GuQ
L77[11:26:14] <MichiBot> Domino Addition - Numberphile | length: 18m 31s | Likes: 16,336 Dislikes: 133 Views: 783,155 | by Numberphile | Published On 4/4/2014
L78[11:26:49] <ben_mkiv> nice :D
L79[11:27:28] <veesus mikel heir> redstone microcontroller
L80[11:28:04] <ben_mkiv> there was a mod for that
L81[11:28:26] <ben_mkiv> https://minecraft.curseforge.com/projects/super-circuit-maker
L82[11:28:27] <Bob> RFTools gives some redstone tools and gates
L83[11:28:46] <Bob> Supercircuit maker is redstone but smaller lmao
L84[11:29:07] <ben_mkiv> yes but that allows you to make logic gates in oneblock
L85[11:29:31] <Rph> projectred IC gates are better IMO
L86[11:29:38] <Rph> but they crash the game every time you place them
L87[11:29:46] <Rph> which reduces the possibilities in a reasonable time space
L88[11:29:57] <ben_mkiv> yes that mod used to have bugs all the time :>
L89[11:30:02] <ben_mkiv> also prefer the rftools logic gate
L90[11:30:15] <ben_mkiv> or just opencomputers :P
L91[11:30:31] <veesus mikel heir> why use logic gate when you can use an oc microcontroller
L92[11:30:36] <Bob> ^
L93[11:30:38] <Rph> yes, I am making an emulator of IC gates for OC
L94[11:30:51] <Bob> but how to build OC if you frist need to build a CPU
L95[11:30:54] <Bob> :NotLikeThis:
L96[11:31:20] <veesus mikel heir> use a redstone computer to control cou maker facility
L97[11:31:24] <veesus mikel heir> easy peasy
L98[11:31:32] <ben_mkiv> gate it behind pneumaticraft
L99[11:31:46] <Bob> yss
L100[11:32:18] <veesus mikel heir> hmmm i wonder if oc works with compact machines
L101[11:32:43] <ben_mkiv> what shouldnt work?
L102[11:32:43] <veesus mikel heir> then i could keep my power system in a compact machine and control it externally with oc
L103[11:33:05] <veesus mikel heir> cables from different mods have always been kind of iffy in my experience
L104[11:33:25] <ben_mkiv> arent linked cards interdimensional?
L105[11:33:36] <AmandaC> Yes they are
L106[11:33:39] <veesus mikel heir> i was hoping to just run it through a tunnel
L107[11:34:03] <Bob> use link cards
L108[11:34:45] <AmandaC> I've got a linked card in my tablet which gets switched to when I go out of range of my base
L109[11:34:49] <Bob> I use EnderIO Cables for not having20 cables running trought base but one cluster
L110[11:35:02] <ben_mkiv> it got ae2 tunnel
L111[11:35:14] <ben_mkiv> so you might be able to use ae2 oc p2p
L112[11:35:14] <Bob> I use AE2 also
L113[11:35:35] <AmandaC> I'm working on transitioning my base to use enderio, I only added it to my pack recently
L114[11:36:06] <ben_mkiv> do you play singleplayer?
L115[11:36:11] <AmandaC> Yup
L116[11:36:14] <ben_mkiv> ;(
L117[11:36:32] <ben_mkiv> had any issues with the latest OS build?
L118[11:36:53] <AmandaC> Not that I've noticed, but so far I've only used the rfid and the door controller
L119[11:36:58] <ben_mkiv> ok
L120[11:37:12] <AmandaC> Oh wait
L121[11:37:31] <AmandaC> The uuid passed in the RFID reader seems to always be -1
L122[11:37:47] <ben_mkiv> did you change the setting in your config?
L123[11:37:59] <AmandaC> What setting
L124[11:38:21] <ben_mkiv> "hide uuids for components"
L125[11:38:29] <ben_mkiv> you can change that ingame in "mod options" menue
L126[11:40:00] <ben_mkiv> but wait
L127[11:40:03] <ben_mkiv> you're right
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L129[11:40:21] <ben_mkiv> my check for the setting is inverted
L130[11:40:25] <ben_mkiv> so your config is probably correct
L131[11:40:47] <ben_mkiv> might upload a new build later today
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L133[12:00:58] <AmandaC> what exactly is that UUID meant to be?
L134[12:01:14] <ben_mkiv> the UUID of the user holding the tag
L135[12:01:25] <ben_mkiv> or wait
L136[12:01:26] <AmandaC> Ah. What's the UUID that gets returned by the card-writer then?
L137[12:01:59] <AmandaC> I assumed the card-writer returned a UUID you could use to validate a rfid / card
L138[12:01:59] <ben_mkiv> no its the uuid of the card, sorry
L139[12:02:15] <ben_mkiv> also it looks like you can add chips to other entities
L140[12:02:18] <ben_mkiv> like animals
L141[12:02:27] <ben_mkiv> so your cat can get in/out, too
L142[12:02:28] <ben_mkiv> xD
L143[12:02:42] <AmandaC> I think you can chip yourself / other players as well
L144[12:04:44] <AmandaC> %choose take drugs to make the head-ouch go away or don't bother
L145[12:04:44] <MichiBot> AmandaC: I received a message from future you, said to go with take drugs to make the head-ouch go away.
L146[12:04:51] <AmandaC> sounds good
L147[12:12:24] <Michiyo> ben_mkiv, I didn't want energy use to be too insane.. :P I dunno really how well it balances comparatively
L148[12:12:49] <ben_mkiv> i see
L149[12:13:35] <Michiyo> I'm horrible at balance.
L150[12:13:37] <Michiyo> so meh..
L151[12:13:52] <Forecaster> *Michiyo falls over*
L152[12:14:05] <Michiyo> ^
L153[12:15:19] <ben_mkiv> nah, im struggling the same
L154[12:15:25] <ben_mkiv> with all those different powering methods
L155[12:15:42] <ben_mkiv> dont even know how much those internal OC Carpet capacitors produce
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L157[12:27:06] <Michiyo> uuuuugh
L158[12:27:15] <Michiyo> being sick is the bestest!
L159[12:27:55] <Forecaster> isn't it
L160[12:28:00] <AmandaC> My condolences
L161[12:28:17] <AmandaC> I woke up with a headache that refuses to die, and I feel like death just from that
L162[12:28:22] <Michiyo> 102 fever last night
L163[12:28:31] <Michiyo> it finally broke, but I still feel like death
L164[12:28:44] <Michiyo> Also had this migraine for a effing week now.
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L169[13:08:31] <Forecaster> dammit
L170[13:08:46] <Forecaster> I did not realize there was a bigger mining ship I could afford...
L171[13:08:47] <Forecaster> :|
L172[13:17:58] <Forecaster> apparently this one is a carrier
L173[13:18:02] <Forecaster> it has a hangar in it
L174[13:18:12] <Forecaster> that can hold a shuttle...
L175[13:24:54] <Forecaster> It's now named "Isotopes of Calamity"
L176[13:27:49] <payonel> S3: (and Izaya) checking mem before and after load() is accurate enough for measuring mem cost of loading a chunk. note that it is also can be helpful to measure 3 times, before load(), before load()(), and after. there is a mem cost to load the chunk and a separate cost to execute the code
L177[13:28:11] <payonel> there are lua-vm reasons why the measurement can be misleading. but it is reasonable
L178[13:29:04] <payonel> i do a similar memory cost analysis on openos (though, from ocvm) and i run change through 20 "from boot" scenarios to reduce variance in the vm-ness of it all
L179[13:29:13] <payonel> sometimes, for very small changes, i'll run it 100 times
L180[13:34:06] <AmandaC> ben_mkiv: Thanks for the idea! Now I 1) have a pet cat, and 2) it can go in/out of my bedroom in the base.
L181[13:34:33] <ben_mkiv> xD
L182[13:34:41] <AmandaC> It has to wander near the door, otherwise the pathing thinks it's a solid wall
L183[13:35:22] <ben_mkiv> inb4 amanda requests a catdoor block
L184[13:35:35] <ben_mkiv> which wouldnt affect pathfinding
L185[13:35:37] <AmandaC> nah, that's just a one-block hole
L186[13:35:49] <ben_mkiv> but that would let any 1 block entity in
L187[13:35:53] <ben_mkiv> like spiders...
L188[13:36:01] <Rph> spiders are wide
L189[13:36:06] <ben_mkiv> not all of them
L190[13:36:27] <ben_mkiv> twilight forest adds small cave spiders iirc
L191[13:36:41] <ben_mkiv> also silverfish, do you want them in your bedroom?
L192[13:37:12] <AmandaC> I mean, why would you have those in your base?
L193[13:37:22] <Forecaster> pets?
L194[13:37:22] <Forecaster> :P
L195[13:37:41] <ben_mkiv> or a wild ocelot
L196[13:38:33] <AmandaC> %choose stairs + elevator or just stairs
L197[13:38:33] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Some just stairs sounds nice
L198[13:40:06] <Forecaster> I don't even remember being in a mining fleet but I apparently have Mining Foreman trained to level 5...
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L201[13:49:50] <Inari> Forecaster: Eve?
L202[13:50:02] <Forecaster> quite possibly
L203[14:06:21] <Forecaster> anyone want to help with the mining operation? :P
L204[14:39:21] <Inari> Nah, mining is terribly boring
L205[14:42:42] <Forecaster> well, my drones are doing it for me :P
L206[14:42:50] <Forecaster> I'm playing Fallout Shelter currently
L207[14:52:25] <Forecaster> do you even have EVE? :P
L208[14:58:36] <TheFox> %tonk
L209[14:58:36] <MichiBot> TheFox! You beat Kodos's previous record of 6 hours, 55 minutes and 48 seconds! I hope you're happy!
L210[14:58:37] <MichiBot> TheFox's new record is 7 hours, 35 minutes and 47 seconds
L211[15:04:49] <AmandaC> t20kdc: is there a keyboard shortcut to close an entire process, vs just the window? I'm finding it a bit messy to hit alt-c a bunch of times to get back out through my apps. Though, I guess I could just have a 'back' button instead
L212[15:06:36] <t20kdc> You should probably change your UI against 'standard' to have a back button if it goes too far.
L213[15:06:46] <t20kdc> Though, dare I ask... how deep are these trees?
L214[15:07:07] <t20kdc> Most applications should have 1, maybe 2-deep trees
L215[15:07:29] <t20kdc> 'browser' type applications should treat themselves as 'flat'
L216[15:07:56] <t20kdc> (since it's not a change into a modal dialog inside the browser))
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L218[15:37:02] <Inari> AmandaC: https://imgur.com/gallery/cquvcEy
L219[15:37:40] <AmandaC> t20kdc: uh, 4-5 or so for the app I'm currently fighting against most
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L221[16:25:16] <AmandaC> Inari: :D
L222[16:25:26] <AmandaC> %choose computer or not so computer
L223[16:25:26] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Somebody once told me to roll with computer
L224[16:25:33] <AmandaC> hrm.
L225[16:31:08] <ben_mkiv> since then shes a bot
L226[16:31:44] <ben_mkiv> do you want AmandaBot to happen?
L227[16:33:27] <Kleadron> http://tinyurl.com/y987qwvg
L228[16:34:54] <ZefTheFox> I'm messing with opensecurity and I notice the wiki doesn't say anything about the "secure network card"
L229[16:35:53] <AmandaC> %choose rebuild app-lilac-pxe or later
L230[16:35:53] <MichiBot> AmandaC: My grandfather always told me that later is the way to go!
L231[16:48:52] <S3> so
L232[16:49:07] <S3> tbh
L233[16:49:17] <S3> all the network cards are secure
L234[16:51:12] <ZefTheFox> Well I just made a program that scrolls text across the keypads screen
L235[16:51:20] <ZefTheFox> (probably really inefficiently)
L236[16:55:43] <ben_mkiv> it has a security network card? Oo
L237[16:55:47] <ben_mkiv> what minecraft version?
L238[16:57:02] <ZefTheFox> 1.7.10 is what I'm using currently
L239[17:00:36] <Skye> Lizzy, https://github.com/cam72cam/ImmersiveRailroading/pull/516 automatic trains might be possible soon!
L240[17:01:21] <Lizzy> :)
L241[17:03:56] <Izaya> %tonk
L242[17:03:57] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Izaya, you were not able to beat TheFox's record of 7 hours, 35 minutes and 47 seconds this time.
L243[17:03:58] <MichiBot> 2 hours, 5 minutes and 20 seconds were wasted!
L244[17:05:11] <ZefTheFox> So the setKey function from the keypad seems to be completely broken
L245[17:05:43] <ZefTheFox> "Attempt to yield across a c boundary"
L246[17:05:47] <ZefTheFox> c-call*
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L249[17:17:31] <payonel> @ZefTheFox is setKey a component method?
L250[17:17:59] <ZefTheFox> Yes, it is supposed to change the keys on the keypad
L251[17:18:05] <ZefTheFox> along with their colors
L252[17:18:24] <payonel> but you are certain it is a component method?
L253[17:18:37] <Izaya> https://i.4cdn.org/g/1546549350777.gif
L254[17:19:10] <ZefTheFox> http://tinyurl.com/ybxge3mv
L255[17:19:16] <ZefTheFox> https://github.com/PC-Logix/OpenSecurity/wiki/Blocks
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L257[17:21:01] <Michiyo> umm, that's new...
L258[17:21:05] <Michiyo> it has worked
L259[17:21:29] <payonel> Michiyo: i'm assuming it calls this: https://github.com/PC-Logix/OpenSecurity/blob/1.7.10/src/main/java/pcl/opensecurity/tileentity/TileEntityKeypadLock.java#L161
L260[17:22:00] <ZefTheFox> Well wouldn't I get a "not enough arguments" error?
L261[17:22:21] <ZefTheFox> Instead it silently crashes and gives me the error I said before in event.log
L262[17:22:45] <payonel> depends how you're executing it, and what os
L263[17:23:00] <payonel> what happens in openos from the lua prompt?
L264[17:23:20] <ZefTheFox> I'll try that, I've been doing it in a program in openos
L265[17:23:28] <payonel> in a program is fine
L266[17:23:37] <payonel> are you doing anything with custom coroutines?
L267[17:23:45] <payonel> or even threads?
L268[17:23:53] <ZefTheFox> Nope
L269[17:23:58] <ZefTheFox> Single thread, nothing fancy
L270[17:24:04] <payonel> then it should be the same, but sure, try the lua prompt
L271[17:25:16] <ZefTheFox> Different error
L272[17:25:19] <ZefTheFox> http://tinyurl.com/yalwtcj6
L273[17:25:31] <ZefTheFox> java.lang.Double cannot be cast to java.lang.String
L274[17:25:35] <payonel> same code though?
L275[17:25:53] <ZefTheFox> I'm using the tables directly instead of as variables, only difference
L276[17:25:56] <Michiyo> what mod/mc version?
L277[17:26:04] <payonel> and that^ (what oc version)
L278[17:26:31] <Michiyo> I won't be able to test until I get home ~3 hours
L279[17:26:41] <Michiyo> but more info is good
L280[17:26:48] <payonel> the thing is, i dont see any c-call boundary abuse, anywhere
L281[17:27:00] <payonel> but yeah, i'd like more info
L282[17:27:43] <ZefTheFox> Is there a way for me to get the opensecurity version other than the filename?
L283[17:28:16] <ZefTheFox> mc 1.7.10
L284[17:28:16] <ZefTheFox> mod 1.0-114 (according to the filename)
L285[17:28:16] <ZefTheFox> and oc should be 1.7.3
L286[17:28:19] <Lizzy> payonel, https://ocdoc.cil.li/api:event this page states that event.listen() returns a boolean, however in OC MC1.12.2-1.7.3.146 it seems to return a number that might indicate what order it was registered in (i registered 2 event handlers, one returned 4, the other that i registered the line after returned 5).
L287[17:28:37] <Lizzy> either the wiki needs to be updated or OpenOS' event.listen needs to be fixed
L288[17:28:42] <payonel> it returns the event id
L289[17:28:47] <payonel> the docs are wrong, it shouldn't be boolean
L290[17:29:05] <payonel> yeah, you can use that id to unregister the handler
L291[17:29:10] <Lizzy> ah, okay
L292[17:29:23] <Michiyo> so, OpenSecurity build 114
L293[17:29:48] <Michiyo> which is latest.. I know that this has worked..
L294[17:30:08] <payonel> Lizzy: event.cancel(id)
L295[17:30:15] <Lizzy> ah, cool
L296[17:30:26] <payonel> which is the same for event.timer -- they also return ids
L297[17:30:31] <payonel> the docs should have that, i'll update
L298[17:30:32] <payonel> thanks
L299[17:30:49] <ZefTheFox> Would something like computronics interfere with that?
L300[17:30:57] <Lizzy> thank you for thanking me thanking you something something cake
L301[17:31:02] <payonel> Michiyo: is zef's 2nd error expected?
L302[17:31:22] * payonel gives Lizzy a thank-you hug
L303[17:31:32] <Lizzy> hehe
L304[17:32:05] <ZefTheFox> The second error was returned by the function, instead of being in event.log
L305[17:32:06] <Lizzy> tomorrow i might need to pick your brains about some other issues i'm having but they're more probably me doing something wrong
L306[17:32:18] <Lizzy> but now, i must bed
L307[17:32:26] <payonel> @ZefTheFox i understand. but there is more going on here
L308[17:32:38] <payonel> Lizzy: awesome :D goodnight
L309[17:32:46] <ZefTheFox> Well just tell me what you need to know
L310[17:33:15] <Lizzy> your credit card details, home address and your date of birth /s
L311[17:33:22] * Lizzy zZz
L312[17:33:25] <Izaya> also the number on the back of the card
L313[17:33:33] <ZefTheFox> lol
L314[17:34:00] <payonel> @ZefTheFox that code you ran in the lua prompt, can you repro with ONLY that one line of code in a lua file and executing that .lua from the shell?
L315[17:34:17] <AmandaC> https://github.com/PC-Logix/OpenSecurity/blob/1.7.10/src/main/java/pcl/opensecurity/tileentity/TileEntityKeypadLock.java#L184
L316[17:34:36] <AmandaC> It looks like it expects a second table of numeric strings, not straight up numbers
L317[17:34:51] <Michiyo> It's supposed to cast them, and it's not.
L318[17:35:34] <AmandaC> `(String)colors.get(id)` is likely where the exception comes from
L319[17:35:38] <Lizzy> okay, one last quick question before i go, payonel is the event.log stored on a filesystem or in /tmp?
L320[17:35:45] <payonel> Lizzy: new text:
L321[17:35:45] <payonel> Returns: number, the event id which can be canceled via event.cancel, if the event was successfully registered, false if this function was already registered for this event type.
L322[17:35:54] <payonel> Lizzy: it is stored in /tmp
L323[17:36:03] <payonel> you want it stored elsewhere?
L324[17:36:06] <Lizzy> awesome and bugger
L325[17:36:20] <payonel> you could ... umount /tmp; mount --bind /home/mytmp /tmp
L326[17:36:26] <Michiyo> This might be some old code.
L327[17:36:39] <Lizzy> no, i only just realised i could have maybe looked at that but it's too late to boot mc back up and i can't play mc at work
L328[17:36:51] <ZefTheFox> Nothing comes up in the prompt
L329[17:36:57] <payonel> Lizzy: ok, let's review+chat tomorrow then
L330[17:36:57] <ZefTheFox> the program runs and nothing happens
L331[17:37:05] <Lizzy> yep
L332[17:37:09] * Lizzy re-zzz's
L333[17:37:13] <payonel> @ZefTheFox then please `echo $?`
L334[17:37:18] <payonel> immediately after running it
L335[17:38:03] <ZefTheFox> I'm ran "echo $" and it just repeated the $, I'm not sure what you want me to do
L336[17:38:11] <AmandaC> Mimiru: yup-yup, that bug only exists in the 1.7.10 branch.
L337[17:38:17] * payonel is confused
L338[17:38:23] <payonel> i said to run `echo $?` not `echo $`
L339[17:38:29] <ZefTheFox> OH
L340[17:38:43] <ZefTheFox> It says 0
L341[17:38:44] <payonel> and you have to run it immediately after you run your script
L342[17:38:49] <ZefTheFox> I did
L343[17:38:56] <payonel> and there is nothing in /tmp/event.log
L344[17:38:56] <payonel> ?
L345[17:39:26] <payonel> oh wait, of course there isn't
L346[17:39:38] <AmandaC> Mimiru: scratch that, 1.7.10 and 1.12.2
L347[17:39:38] <ZefTheFox> Just more "process library exception handler crashed: attempt to yield across a C-Call boundary"
L348[17:39:45] <payonel> your lua prompt screenshot did not show an exception stack
L349[17:39:49] <payonel> wait just more of that?
L350[17:39:50] <AmandaC> Mimiru: only the 1.10.0 branch does the "right thing"
L351[17:39:58] <payonel> zef: rm your event.log and retry
L352[17:40:31] <Michiyo> AmandaC, damn it
L353[17:40:33] <Michiyo> thanks..
L354[17:40:37] <ZefTheFox> This time no event.log was made
L355[17:40:39] <AmandaC> 1.7.10 and 1.12.2 have `val = Integer.parseInt((String) colors.get(id));` -- 1.10.2 `val = colors.get(id);`
L356[17:40:38] <ZefTheFox> wait
L357[17:40:45] <ZefTheFox> I'm so confused
L358[17:40:50] <payonel> why are you confused?
L359[17:40:53] <ZefTheFox> It partially worked
L360[17:41:14] <Michiyo> currently you'll need to quote the numbers for the colors... that should work, I think
L361[17:41:18] <Michiyo> I'll push a fix soon
L362[17:41:20] <payonel> 1. your lua prompt example did not throw an exception. it returned nil, "error message" nicely
L363[17:41:37] <AmandaC> Mimiru: no problem, code diving is one of my specialities, it seems. :P
L364[17:41:39] <ZefTheFox> Just to demo I was trying to set the first button to "A" and second to "B"
L365[17:41:43] <payonel> thus, that code should not abort, and error code 0 is expected
L366[17:41:56] <ZefTheFox> and somehow the first one changed?
L367[17:42:01] <ZefTheFox> but the second one didn't
L368[17:42:11] <payonel> @ZefTheFox one problem at a time, here
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L371[17:42:18] zsh sets mode: +v on payonel
L372[17:42:20] * payonel rages
L373[17:42:22] <Michiyo> ctrl-w?
L374[17:42:28] <payonel> %flip ^w
L375[17:42:28] <MichiBot> payonel: (╯°□°)╯ʍ^
L376[17:42:44] <Michiyo> 2.14.2!
L377[17:42:44] <AmandaC> payonel: you said you updated to a newer x-chat that suppossedly fixes that, right?
L378[17:42:52] <payonel> @ZefTheFox you helped MichiBot and AmandaC find a bug in OpenSecurity, that's one thing
L379[17:43:10] <payonel> but the c-boundary thing is my deal, that should not happen in openos, unless the user is doing something obviously wrong
L380[17:43:12] <payonel> so that's why i care
L381[17:43:27] <payonel> AmandaC: it's not available for the ubuntu flavor i'm on
L382[17:43:30] <AmandaC> ah
L383[17:43:31] <ZefTheFox> So the c-call boundary thing isn't happening anymore (at least not that I can see)
L384[17:43:34] <AmandaC> no PPA or similar even?
L385[17:43:37] <payonel> there were...some deps or something, i dont recall
L386[17:43:47] <AmandaC> what flavour?
L387[17:43:48] <payonel> AmandaC: i'm on a partially locked repo set
L388[17:43:53] <AmandaC> ah
L389[17:44:00] <AmandaC> work machine?
L390[17:44:02] <payonel> work issued
L391[17:44:02] <payonel> yes
L392[17:44:08] <AmandaC> alas
L393[17:44:17] <payonel> @ZefTheFox even when running your full program?
L394[17:44:40] <Izaya> tfw OS is vaguely competent enough to be used as a biometric door controller
L395[17:44:42] <ZefTheFox> Let me add it back to my full program
L396[17:44:56] <ZefTheFox> I took it out because I'm actually in the process of making it
L397[17:45:07] <Izaya> (OS as in operating system, not OpenSecurity, which I'm using)
L398[17:47:03] <ZefTheFox> Yeah even in my full program
L399[17:47:04] <ZefTheFox> wtf
L400[17:51:24] <Michiyo> AmandaC, I was really confused, cause 1.12 looked like 1.10
L401[17:52:26] <Michiyo> great news, is this isn't a copypasta fix for 1.7, the build failed
L402[17:52:34] <Michiyo> so.. I get to try to fix my IDE tonight
L403[17:54:30] <AmandaC> D:
L404[17:57:10] <payonel> AmandaC: https://i.chzbgr.com/full/8578044928/h94BC0215/
L405[17:57:17] <payonel> %tell inari https://i.chzbgr.com/full/8578044928/h94BC0215/
L406[17:57:18] <MichiBot> payonel: inari will be notified of this message when next seen.
L407[18:29:39] <ben_mkiv> %tell michibot %tell michibot tell me something
L408[18:29:40] <MichiBot> ben_mkiv: michibot will be notified of this message when next seen.
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L410[18:33:46] <ZefTheFox> I just made a program for a microcontroller
L411[18:33:58] <ZefTheFox> before realizing the microcontroller can't connect to external components
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L413[18:43:19] <Wattana Gaming> That moment when you realize why you cannot install firefox http://tinyurl.com/y7xkonnw
L414[18:43:40] <ben_mkiv> Mimiru, are you still around?
L415[18:43:55] <ben_mkiv> wonder how you managed sounds for the Alarm block if the mod runs on a server oO
L416[18:44:16] <ben_mkiv> as they seem to get loaded to a list from the minecraft instance directory
L417[18:44:29] <ben_mkiv> so they would have to exist on client and server, right?
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L419[19:05:36] <Michiyo> ben_mkiv, yes only real way to make sure all clients agree on a list
L420[19:05:58] <ben_mkiv> well the problem then is that the server could show sounds that arent on the client
L421[19:06:12] <Michiyo> it could, but not if you do it right. :P
L422[19:06:22] <Michiyo> EG: making sure to keep them in sync
L423[19:06:42] <ben_mkiv> well i wonder if they should just be sent by the server
L424[19:06:56] <ben_mkiv> like server sends soundlist on connect and client requests files that dont exist on the client
L425[19:08:27] <ben_mkiv> or another option would be the possibility to use sounds that are saved on the opencomputers machine
L426[19:11:17] <ben_mkiv> but latter would also require the data sync
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L431[19:30:28] <ben_mkiv> and then a new mod was born... to create a server resourcepack serverside on server start
L432[19:30:40] <ben_mkiv> well not born, started xD
L433[19:38:44] <S3> so my entire driveway smells like burning metal
L434[19:38:49] <S3> and my car smells even more of it
L435[19:39:24] <S3> I just got home
L436[19:39:45] <Izaya> is your car on fire
L437[19:39:47] <S3> no
L438[19:39:52] <S3> my clutch reeks
L439[19:40:00] <S3> today we had a snow storm with wet snow
L440[19:40:06] <S3> and now its 18 degrees F out
L441[19:40:16] <S3> aka -7 C
L442[19:40:48] <S3> so I ended up going up this really steep 30+ degree hill to a stop light in my rear wheel drive stick shift
L443[19:41:05] <S3> the road is literally ice with slush on top that isn't quite frozen yet
L444[19:41:48] <S3> so here we were with a bunch of people in the car, 350 pounds of sand bags in the trunk and a car that weighs almost 5000 pounds and barely holding with the brake
L445[19:41:54] <S3> :D
L446[19:42:44] <S3> We needed a lot of torque and really low speed
L447[19:43:08] <S3> so, it became "lets test to see if my new clutch is worn in yet day"
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L450[19:48:25] <ZefTheFox> I thought you asked if their cat was on fire
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L458[20:41:26] <Mimiru> welp bad news... I'll not likely have time to fix that tonight
L459[20:57:38] <AmandaC> %choose pokemans or go back to cubes
L460[20:57:38] <MichiBot> AmandaC: go back to cubes is for cool kids!
L461[20:57:50] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L462[20:57:51] <MichiBot> You got the first Tonk CompanionCube, but this is only the beginning.
L463[20:57:54] <CompanionCube> oh
L464[20:57:56] <CompanionCube> ok
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L468[21:32:17] <ZefTheFox> %tonk
L469[21:32:18] <MichiBot> ZefTheFox! You beat CompanionCube's previous record of <0! I hope you're happy!
L470[21:32:19] <MichiBot> ZefTheFox's new record is 4 hours, 28 minutes and 21 seconds
L471[22:00:56] <Kleadron> so uh
L472[22:00:58] <Kleadron> maze been
L473[22:01:03] <Kleadron> maze bean [Edited]
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L476[22:38:42] <Mimiru> Oh... @"ZefTheFox" RE: the Secure network card.. there is no wiki entry because it doesn't actually work.
L477[22:48:25] <Mimiru> build 117 fixes the keypad.
L478[22:57:02] <AmandaC> Downside to having a cat in Minecraft: incessant meowing. Upside: finally looking up a mid you saw used in a lp and installing it to also solve another noisy thing
L479[22:57:37] <AmandaC> (cobble gen drives me nuts occasionally )
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L481[22:58:47] <aquawarp> hello
L482[22:58:47] <AmandaC> (the mod in question is random things, it has a selective sound muffler as well as some other interesting things)
L483[22:59:08] <AmandaC> Anyway, I think I'll sleep now. Night nerds
L484[23:01:45] <aquawarp> night
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L486[23:03:43] <Izaya> AmandaC: sound filters or similar?
L487[23:04:27] <aquawarp> so how much worse is computer craft then OP?
L488[23:05:59] <aquawarp> then Open Computers*
L489[23:06:02] <Izaya> depends on what metric you use
L490[23:06:36] <aquawarp> what do you mean by that?
L491[23:07:16] <Izaya> to my knowledge CC doesn't have memory constraints and the GPUs are much faster
L492[23:07:49] <aquawarp> that's nice
L493[23:07:52] <Izaya> but you also can't choose what hardware a computer has and the network and peripheral APIs are kinda wonky
L494[23:07:53] <ZefTheFox> Oh that explains it
L495[23:07:59] <ZefTheFox> And thanks for letting me know
L496[23:08:08] <ZefTheFox> I'll mess with it tomorrow
L497[23:08:25] <aquawarp> is there an option like mine OS?
L498[23:08:41] <Izaya> huh?
L499[23:08:42] <aquawarp> or something similar?
L500[23:08:51] <Izaya> For OC?
L501[23:08:57] <Izaya> or for CC?
L502[23:09:01] <aquawarp> for CC
L503[23:09:04] <Izaya> ah
L504[23:09:08] <Izaya> I'm not aware of any
L505[23:09:17] <aquawarp> darn
L506[23:09:32] <Izaya> There's plenty of "OS"es on their forum but it's mostly just CraftOS with an extra program or two and a custom boot screen
L507[23:10:01] <aquawarp> aw
L508[23:10:04] <aquawarp> ok
L509[23:10:19] <aquawarp> well thanks for telling me
L510[23:10:37] * Izaya thinks the OC OS situation is much more interesting, possibly due to the constraints
L511[23:10:53] <aquawarp> can you connect to irc through?
L512[23:10:58] <Izaya> with CC?
L513[23:11:03] <aquawarp> yes
L514[23:11:16] <Izaya> Don't think so without software providing a HTTP proxy to a TCP connection
L515[23:11:45] <aquawarp> but it is able to establish an internet connection?
L516[23:12:01] <Izaya> Assuming the protocol you want to use is HTTP
L517[23:12:10] <Izaya> Anything else, such as IRC, is off the table, to my knowledge
L518[23:12:26] <aquawarp> wow
L519[23:12:29] <aquawarp> ok
L520[23:12:42] <ZefTheFox> You can make actual operating systems for cc just the process is completely different
L521[23:13:03] <ZefTheFox> Personally I have no idea how to but I have tried a couple before
L522[23:13:08] <Izaya> Zef: yeah I heard they made the boot ROM less ... RO
L523[23:13:19] <Izaya> which is nice, but my point still stands
L524[23:13:22] <Izaya> mostly CraftOS spins
L525[23:13:59] <ZefTheFox> No, this was over a year ago
L526[23:14:13] <ZefTheFox> Sure many are but it is possible for them
L527[23:14:18] <Izaya> yeah it is
L528[23:14:20] <Izaya> I'm just saying
L529[23:14:28] <Izaya> most I saw on the forums last I saw were CraftOS spins
L530[23:16:16] <Izaya> neat, Thunderbird does to-do stuff too
L531[23:16:19] <Izaya> :D
L532[23:16:25] <aquawarp> I got to get some sleep
L533[23:16:32] <Izaya> o7
L534[23:16:32] <aquawarp> good night
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