[00:09:03] <MichiBot> CompanionCube REMINDER: tonk
[00:33:53] *** Quits: Thutmose (Thutmose!~Patrick@host-69-59-79-181.nctv.com) (Quit: Leaving.)
[01:59:50]
<Dudblockman> I just realized... CS 2420 has actually been incredibly useful.
[02:01:00]
<Dudblockman> I looked back on how I approached my OC based storage system and realized that I could make it far better by using some of the systems I have learned
[02:02:12]
<Dudblockman> ~~finally some education that seems genuinely useful in my life~~
[02:07:50] *** Quits: Kleadron (Kleadron!~kleadron@c-73-254-147-9.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) (Ping timeout: 183 seconds)
[04:22:06]
<Forecaster> because why not
[04:51:49] *** Joins: Inari (Inari!~Pinkishu@p5DEC69FB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
[06:58:34] *** Quits: ba7888b72413a16a (ba7888b72413a16a!~ba7888b72@66.109.211.150) (Ping timeout: 190 seconds)
[06:59:34] *** Joins: ba7888b72413a16a (ba7888b72413a16a!~ba7888b72@66.109.211.150)
[07:33:02]
<Kodos> %tonk
[07:33:04] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Kodos, you were not able to beat CompanionCube's record of 13 hours, 55 minutes and 30 seconds this time.
[07:33:05] <MichiBot> 8 hours, 5 minutes and 14 seconds were wasted!
[07:33:17]
<Kodos> RIP
[07:33:21]
<Kodos> Anyone playing X4?
[07:33:53] <stephan48> mh. i might buy it
[07:34:18]
<Kodos> Getting ready to get breakfast and settle in on a stream of it probably
[07:34:42] <stephan48> did not look much at it before
[07:34:53] <stephan48> but i am also thinking about playing the first games again
[07:35:21] <stephan48> i did not enjoy the flight controls much but i liked to just build stuff
[07:37:33]
<Forecaster> I'm going to stream it sometime I think
[07:37:45]
<Forecaster> didn't realize they released it already
[07:38:14] <stephan48> some one told me today
[07:38:28] <stephan48> but as that person is somewhere on the globe(unknown) and i am in europe
[07:38:44] <stephan48> today might be quite a fluid term.
[07:43:59] * Lizzy pokes Izaya about the kernel command line for KPTI
[07:44:22]
<Kodos> Fore, let me know if/when you do, I'll come watch
[07:48:31]
<gartral> %tonk
[07:48:32] <MichiBot> I'm sorry gartral, you were not able to beat CompanionCube's record of 13 hours, 55 minutes and 30 seconds this time.
[07:48:33] <MichiBot> 15 minutes and 28 seconds were wasted!
[07:49:37]
<gartral> I donott understand what that is supposed to be/do <,<
[07:50:11]
<Lizzian> the goal is to get the longest tonk
[07:50:46]
<Lizzian> which is basicallly to get the most time between the last tonk and when you do the tonk
[07:50:54] <stephan48> i.e. now you need to wait 13h 55min and atleast 31 sec until you %tonk
[07:50:58] <stephan48> then you would "win"
[07:51:17]
<Lizzian> of coursse if anyone fails to beat the tonk the time resets anyway
[07:51:21] <stephan48> the next person would need atleast the same amount of time diff
[07:51:25] <stephan48> and that
[07:52:23]
<gartral> omg I could so cheat by making a timed trigger in my ZNC
[07:52:54]
<Lizzian> you could, but since you've told us you might do it we would just make Michibot ignore you
[07:53:26] <stephan48> sure do it
[07:53:50]
<gartral> hey just because I said I could, doesn't mean I will.
[07:54:21] <stephan48> nobody stops you(or anybody) besides your own guilt and shame - the basic law of cheating in multiplayer. and then theres retribution(blocking, shunning)
[07:54:29]
<gartral> what's the point of the challenge if it's reduced to what is in essence a bot
[07:54:29]
<Lizzian> yeah, but if we do start noticing that you do it like, 2-3 seconds after the max time it'll look suspicious
[07:56:47]
<gartral> iono, maybe my asbie brain works differently... I get accused of cheating alot for mearly pointin out HOW to cheat.
[07:57:45] <stephan48> no worries, but pointing this out is usually the easiest deterent
[07:58:06]
<Lizzian> i'm not accusing you, i'm just letting you know what what happen if you did
[07:58:35] <stephan48> and i am sure Mimiru can be persuaded to show you a test channel if you want to develop a PoC in a non abusing way
[08:15:27] *** Joins: Asm (Asm!~asm@180.101.45.132)
[08:15:47] <Asm> hi
[08:24:18] *** Quits: Asm (Asm!~asm@180.101.45.132) (Ping timeout: 190 seconds)
[08:34:02]
<Forecaster> %bye
[08:34:03] <MichiBot> Forecaster: Oh, well, bye I guess...
[09:03:40] <Izaya> Lizzy: pinged you with it almost 24 hours ago
[09:04:10] <Lizzy> you said you were gonna send it to me about 24 hours ago, i didn't see the actuall line at all
[09:04:25] <Lizzy> unless you posted it in a different channel
[09:04:41] <Lizzy> nvm found it
[09:05:17] <Lizzy> ah, i think you pinged me when i was streaming
[09:05:27] <Lizzy> thaanks
[09:16:46] <Inari> New business idea: an accelerated, immersive retro experience. You pay a subscription and start in a Retro year of your choosing. From that time game magazine articles are compiled into a monthly gaming magazine you get each month about the upcoming releases from that time, as well as reviews, and the like. Then you also get the games of your choosing as they release. But it's a bit accelerated as
[09:16:53] <Inari> said so you don't hve to wait ages between games you're interested in
[09:21:05]
<Forecaster> what
[09:22:37] <Inari> Like, you get a game magazine about the games that were reviewed/previewed in game magazines in May, June, and July of 1995. And you pickt he ones that catch your interest, and you get those to play through and such. And then a month later you get anohter magazine for August, September, October 1995
[09:24:53]
<Forecaster> what if you don't have the system
[09:29:30] *** Joins: Vexatos (Vexatos!~Vexatos@p200300C107205E959D4A4BDACBD6FD17.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
[09:29:30] *** zsh sets mode: +v Vexatos
[09:30:01] <Inari> You buy it, or theres some all-purpose system
[09:32:54]
<Forecaster> relying on nostalgia to that degree may not be a great business model :P
[09:35:41] <Inari> Hm it'd be more for people who want to experience how things were during that game period, than people who experienced it
[09:53:13] <Lizzy> home time yay
[09:53:59]
<Forecaster> yay
[09:54:04]
<Forecaster> for me too soon
[10:18:54]
<Lizzian> I had a productive day of "work" which consisted of mostly minecraft
[10:19:07] <Izaya> sounds like a good day
[10:19:42]
<Lizzian> It was, I got a fair few bits of my IR/OC stuff done
[10:20:08]
<Lizzian> All whilst connecting to an mc server over an ssh tunnel
[10:21:15] <Izaya> with compression on? :D
[10:21:55]
<Lizzian> Can't actually remember, think I did
[10:22:23]
<Lizzian> I'll check my laptop when I get home
[10:22:36] <Skye> Trains.
[10:22:42] <Skye> !
[10:22:43] <Skye> !!
[10:22:46] <Skye> Trains!!
[10:23:26]
<Lizzian> Also that was me accidentally releasing the points too early
[10:27:53]
<CheeseAlmighty> **dejavu**
[10:31:16] *** Joins: Thutmose (Thutmose!~Patrick@host-69-59-79-181.nctv.com)
[10:31:19] <Lizzy> Yes
[10:32:00]
<Forecaster> Yes
[10:32:19] <Izaya> Yes
[10:32:20] <Skye> Lizzy: automatic train system when
[10:32:25] <Izaya> argh
[10:32:43] <Lizzy> Soon ™
[10:33:11] <Lizzy> Skye: ^
[10:33:52] <Skye> Yes
[10:53:59] <Lizzy> Hmm, just thinking, the trains might not be that automated since I haven't worked out yet how to precisely control them but other aspects should be easy to automate
[11:03:33] <Skye> Lizzy: I have a few ideas?
[11:03:57] <Lizzy> Yeah?
[11:05:18] <Skye> Lizzy: calculate the brake force needed from the braking distance
[11:06:31] <Lizzy> That's one of the things that needs to be worked out, the other is acceleration and maintaining speed
[11:08:10] <Lizzy> That can be stage 2 or whatever. Think for now I'm just gonna focus on assisting people drivers (cause I'll likely need those systems for the automatic stuff as well)
[11:08:11] <Skye> Copy the speed and brake calculations
[11:14:17]
<Kodos> What are you even using for those trains?
[11:17:45] <Lizzy> The ones in the screenshot? Immersive railroadiy
[11:19:52]
<Kodos> Thought as much. So you can drift in those?
[11:24:06] <Lizzy> Apparently yes
[11:24:39] <Michiyo> lol
[11:35:09] <Lizzy> yay home
[11:44:41] *** Joins: Kleadron (Kleadron!~kleadron@c-73-254-147-9.hsd1.wa.comcast.net)
[11:46:56]
<Bob> Is this normal that i get that at every server launch
[11:47:01]
<Bob> something is defenitely wrong
[11:47:05]
<Bob> but all OC pc's work
[11:47:24]
<Bob> also while i was scroling
[12:00:05]
<gamerred> guys is it possible to update a table entree while the program is still running? like I want it to be like if I press a button on a screen it will raise,lower the number based on what one?
[12:01:54] <Lizzy> yes
[12:03:16]
<gamerred> ah that means I need to learn that
[12:08:16] <payonel> @bob ignore the glyph warning
[12:08:35] <payonel> i ... probably should have made that a debug statement
[12:08:42] * Izaya aaaaaaaaas
[12:08:48] <payonel> check with vex
[12:09:30] <payonel> but i think thats from the optimized file saving code. are you on a traditional forge server?
[12:10:25] <Vexatos> Guess you can turn that down to info
[12:10:29] <Vexatos> it appears twice
[12:10:50] <Vexatos> SafeThreadPool.withPool
[12:14:36]
<gamerred> btw on my txt file for my lua prog it has new lines and it keeps putting \n anyway to remove that and have it replace those with new lines?
[12:15:08] <Skye> Uhh... Example of the text file?
[12:16:48]
<gamerred> which is causing my code to fail
[12:17:34]
<gamerred> basically I want it to read from a external table
[12:18:00] <Skye> Uhhh
[12:18:06] <Skye> Can I see your code?
[12:19:33]
<gamerred> I took that part of the code out since I couldnt get it working still got the txt file I want it to read from
[12:23:14]
<gamerred> see this file I want it to read from however I dont know how to read table from file do now string not table
[12:23:24]
<gamerred> know*
[12:24:29] <Skye> Erm... I can't really help without seeing code.
[12:24:50]
<McMaarten> Just asking, but is there any program created with an AI build-in
[12:25:07] <Izaya> define AI
[12:25:15] <Izaya> do you mean machine learning or..?
[12:25:20]
<McMaarten> Yep
[12:25:23]
<McMaarten> Machine learning
[12:25:37] <Izaya> I don't know of any
[12:25:43]
<McMaarten> well
[12:25:59] <Izaya> the basic concepts of a neural network are pretty easy to implement but uh, good luck, I guess
[12:26:22]
<McMaarten> I don't know how they work so that'll be hard then..?
[12:26:25]
<gamerred> Well all I need to know is like how to read a certain line # of a txt file
[12:26:26] <payonel> @gamerred you want to read a table from a file?
[12:26:31]
<gamerred> Yes
[12:26:41] <payonel> you have two options
[12:26:47] <Izaya> if you don't know how they work you probably shouldn't be using them :^)
[12:27:03]
<McMaarten> True.. :D
[12:27:06] <payonel> load("return " .. data) or deserialize(data)
[12:27:17]
<gamerred> I know them in other languages just not lua equivelent
[12:28:34] <payonel> @gamerred do you know what load() does?
[12:28:43]
<gamerred> havent messed with that yet
[12:28:50] <payonel> it's a core lua method
[12:29:19] <payonel> %lua local f = load("a = 1 a = a + 3 print(a)") print(type(f), f())
[12:29:20] <MichiBot> 4 | function
[12:29:27] <Skye> Uh I'm not sure if you're be able to load the line directly without syntax errors
[12:29:57] <payonel> @gamerred load() is how we compile lua text into a lua function
[12:30:08] <payonel> s/lua text/lua syntax/
[12:30:09] <MichiBot> <payonel> @gamerred load() is how we compile lua syntax into a lua function
[12:30:51] <payonel> so if you have a file with a table, like: '{ "foobar", field = "data" }'
[12:31:02] <payonel> then you can load that as executable lua code
[12:31:34]
<gamerred> still pass the file through filesystem or io or whatever correct?
[12:31:53] <payonel> load() is for text, not a file
[12:32:19] <payonel> so if you have a file, you would need to read its contents into a string
[12:33:53]
<gamerred> yeah which thats adding \n at each line break thats my issue lol
[12:34:25] <payonel> lua has no problem with \n
[12:34:30] <payonel> it's just whitespace
[12:35:49]
<gamerred> turns out I do got a backup after all of how I tried it. forgot I backed it up
[12:36:10]
<McMaarten> Is there a program which allows remote shell? would be nice
[12:36:22] <payonel> yes, psh
[12:36:57]
<McMaarten> 'psh'?
[12:37:12] <payonel> mmhmm
[12:37:14] <payonel> oppm install psh
[12:37:20]
<McMaarten> I'll try
[12:37:37] <payonel> it's honestly a bit beta
[12:37:38] <payonel> but it works
[12:37:43]
<McMaarten> nice
[12:37:44] <payonel> i'm still imporving it
[12:37:47]
<gamerred> wait is this my issue for my file read I am doing srl.serialize(items) shouldnt it be unserialize since its a table syntax?
[12:38:40] <payonel> serialize turns a value to a string representation, unserialize turns that string representation back into a value
[12:39:22]
<gamerred> yeah but since its reading from a txt file do I need to unserialize or normal serialize if its in the table layout?
[12:39:38] <payonel> @mcmaarten if you end up using psh from today's version, i strongly recommend you update again tomorrow
[12:39:47]
<McMaarten> I will
[12:40:21]
<McMaarten> I'm actually trying to make my own remote shell, but I'm just trying to get some inspiration.
[12:44:26] <payonel> @McMaarten the core, pivotal aspect of a remote shell should run on io
[12:45:10]
<McMaarten> interresting
[12:45:47]
<gamerred> fixed it that was my issue
[12:46:07]
<gamerred> from the txt file I just had to unserialize first
[12:50:02]
<McMaarten> how does psh exactly work thou
[12:51:20] <payonel> the details: `psh --help` but in short, on a remote machine run the daemon: `rc pshd start` and on your local machine run `psh -f`
[12:51:32] <payonel> `psh -f` tells psh to connect to the 'f'irst remote it finds
[12:51:43] <payonel> if you know the remote address: psh <remote_address>
[12:52:01] <payonel> psh with no command, just like ssh, runs the shell on the remote machine
[12:52:12] <payonel> or you can pass a command: psh <remote_address> <cmd>
[12:52:48] <payonel> and you can have pshd start on boot by using `rc pshd enable`
[12:52:50] <Izaya> payonel: for my OS, any advantage to having the shell control I/O handles of each program it launches vs just giving the program the same I/O handle as the shell?
[12:53:08] <payonel> implement io.up
[12:53:13] <payonel> sorry, typo
[12:53:14] <payonel> io.dup
[12:53:23] <payonel> and give each proc a dup of its parent
[12:53:46]
<McMaarten> Host won't respond for some reason
[12:54:54] <Izaya> payonel: neat, that'd work
[12:55:10]
<McMaarten> Is it because I use wireless network cards
[12:55:17] <payonel> Izaya: btw, that io.dup has a tiny missing feature, the mt should include: __newindex = function(dfd, key, value) dfd.fd[key] = value
[12:55:33] <payonel> @McMaarten wireless should work fine/the same
[12:55:39] <payonel> youre running pshd on the remote host?
[12:55:46]
<McMaarten> yep
[12:55:54]
<McMaarten> pshd service is started on `computer 1`
[12:56:09]
<McMaarten> and the command `psh -l` has been executed on `computer 2`
[12:56:15] <Izaya> should've used minitel /s
[12:56:16]
<McMaarten> but no hosts respond
[12:57:40] <payonel> sec, work, brb
[12:59:22] <payonel> Izaya: oh quiet :P psh is coming along
[12:59:36] <payonel> i'm focusing on the sockets, they're really great....once i finalize the protocol
[13:00:03] <payonel> @McMaarten and on pc1, if you run `rc pshd status` it is happy?
[13:00:42]
<McMaarten> output: `started`
[13:00:55] <payonel> and `psh -l` is just silent
[13:00:56] <payonel> ?
[13:01:04]
<McMaarten> does `rc pshd start` need to be executed with BOTH client and host
[13:01:10] <payonel> no no
[13:01:15]
<McMaarten> good
[13:01:17] <payonel> pshd is like sshd
[13:01:43] <payonel> you're on 1.7.3?
[13:01:43]
<McMaarten> Just silence..
[13:01:47]
<McMaarten> Yep!
[13:02:22] <payonel> well, lame.....ok, try this: rc pshd enable; reboot
[13:02:25] <payonel> on pc1
[13:02:41] <payonel> also do a force restart on pc2
[13:02:47] <payonel> then, on pc1, run dmesg
[13:02:53]
<McMaarten> oh okay
[13:02:54] <payonel> and then on pc2, psh -l
[13:03:12] <Izaya> payonel: psh over minitel when
[13:03:13]
<McMaarten> ok
[13:03:27]
<McMaarten> It receives some connections
[13:03:28] <payonel> Izaya: psh and sockets are very very well separated
[13:03:40] <payonel> Izaya: i can very nicely test psh code by using mock sockets
[13:03:51] <payonel> Izaya: the socket api for client code is as simply as push and pull
[13:03:59] <Izaya> so I take it, when I tell it to use minitel sockets over your socket libraries
[13:03:59] <payonel> Izaya: so the psh code has no modem code in it
[13:04:23] <payonel> Izaya: you could provide a socket-proxy-wrapper for minitel connections
[13:04:34] <payonel> like a translation layer, to mock push and pull
[13:04:50] <payonel> in other words, you could completely fake payo sockets
[13:05:08] <payonel> @McMaarten but `psh -l` is otherwise silent?
[13:05:08] <Izaya> sounds fairly easy and like my favorite sort of bodge job
[13:05:15]
<McMaarten> yep
[13:05:27] <Izaya> also goddamnit I've ended up using the US spelling of favourite >.>
[13:05:28]
<McMaarten> oh it gave me something
[13:05:34]
<McMaarten> that took long
[13:05:47]
<McMaarten> what do i do with the address
[13:06:00] <payonel> @mcmaarten haha, pc2 printed the result finally?
[13:06:07]
<McMaarten> yep!
[13:06:23] <payonel> haha, well, after i finalize my socket lib i'll definitely look into that
[13:06:35] <payonel> @McMaarten that's the remote address you can connect to
[13:06:37] <payonel> sort of like an ip
[13:06:40]
<McMaarten> Ah
[13:06:50]
<McMaarten> What's the command for that
[13:06:52] <payonel> `psh -f ...` lets you specify part of an address
[13:07:01] <payonel> just `psh <remote_address>`
[13:07:15] <payonel> or use -f which lets you omit the address, or specify the start of an address
[13:07:39]
<McMaarten> What is it **supposed** to do after running the `psh remoteaddressthingy`
[13:07:50]
<McMaarten> because nothing is showing up
[13:07:55]
<McMaarten> on pc 2
[13:07:57] <payonel> @McMaarten have you used ssh before?
[13:08:06]
<McMaarten> no i feel dumb now :D
[13:08:18]
<McMaarten> its secure shell right
[13:08:27] <payonel> @McMaarten psh is ssh without the s :)
[13:08:35]
<McMaarten> what?
[13:08:42]
<McMaarten> that simple... lmao
[13:08:51] <payonel> ssh is secure shell, yes, psh is payo shell :/
[13:09:01] <payonel> it's for running shells on a remote address
[13:09:05] <payonel> without any security
[13:09:10]
<McMaarten> OOF
[13:09:15] <Izaya> do you have the protocol documented somewhere
[13:09:16] <payonel> unless you ran it on top of a secure socket layer
[13:09:17] *** Quits: logan2611 (logan2611!~logan2611@184-96-181-155.hlrn.qwest.net) (Ping timeout: 180 seconds)
[13:09:20] <payonel> which i haven't provided
[13:09:23] *** Joins: logan2611 (logan2611!~logan2611@71-218-60-225.hlrn.qwest.net)
[13:09:28]
<McMaarten> pc 2 is still not showing anything up
[13:09:29] <payonel> Izaya: i'm very close to having it official
[13:09:34] <Izaya> okey
[13:09:47] <payonel> Izaya: it is pretty simple
[13:09:50] * Izaya will probably just end up doing telnet-over-minitel for their OS
[13:09:50]
<McMaarten> oh it said somnethin
[13:10:32]
<McMaarten> I don't understand what it's doing rn
[13:10:35] <payonel> Izaya: 4 messages: connect, accept, packet, and close
[13:10:51]
<McMaarten> OHHH
[13:10:55]
<McMaarten> I UNDERSTAND!
[13:11:05] <payonel> anyways, i'll write something up for it once i finalize one of the states i'm reviewing
[13:11:14] <Izaya> alright
[13:11:15]
<McMaarten> I'm going trough stuff of pc 1 on pc 2
[13:11:27]
<McMaarten> that makes no sense but its so funny :D
[13:11:33] <payonel> @McMaarten makes no sense? :)
[13:11:45]
<McMaarten> :)
[13:11:45]
<McMaarten> i can even reboot it holy
[13:11:56] <payonel> @McMaarten so yeah...psh is very beta right now
[13:12:01]
<McMaarten> i see
[13:12:08] <payonel> i have a lot of fixes locally, just ironing out a socket layer issue
[13:12:16] <Izaya> oh payo did I show you the poster I made
[13:12:21] <payonel> i dont think so
[13:13:04]
<McMaarten> Minitel API?
[13:13:20]
<McMaarten> cool
[13:13:50] <payonel> Izaya: cute
[13:14:01] <Izaya> was going for an 80s computer magazine ad look
[13:14:05] <payonel> Izaya: we should debate the merits of payo sockets to minitel :)
[13:14:08] <Izaya> I think it worked nicely
[13:14:20] <payonel> yeah, i really like your poster :)
[13:14:56]
<McMaarten> Wait... What if we send the command `rc pshd stop` from pc 2 to pc 1
[13:15:00]
<McMaarten> :)
[13:15:18] <payonel> @mcmaarten the purpose of pshd it accepting psh connections
[13:15:32] <payonel> so, the intent of stopping the daemon is to only stop accepting new connections
[13:15:37] <payonel> which is the same as stopping sshd irl
[13:15:38]
<McMaarten> ai
[13:15:46] <Skye> So now payonel has sockets? Dun dun dun
[13:15:50] <payonel> so, the design is that nothing happens to your current connection
[13:16:12] <payonel> @mcmaarten however, i do believe in that beta version you have, there is a bug with stopping the daemon
[13:16:20] <Izaya> Skye: maybe they'll be interesting enough to add as another socket layer for minitel :D
[13:16:22] <payonel> but, yeah, that's fixed in my local dev commit
[13:16:22]
<McMaarten> well...
[13:16:34]
<McMaarten> I can't edit files yet
[13:16:42] <Skye> Oh god.
[13:16:43]
<McMaarten> *Ikr its in beta*
[13:16:48] <payonel> @McMaarten psh works with io only
[13:16:56]
<McMaarten> ah
[13:17:00] <payonel> any application that uses the gpu for direct rendering is not going to work
[13:17:13] <payonel> that said, any application COULD be rewritten to use io properly
[13:17:22]
<McMaarten> nice
[13:17:30] <payonel> /bin/edit is NOT properly written with io
[13:17:37] <payonel> why? it was made before openos had vt100 support
[13:17:49] <payonel> however, i do pan to add a type of gpu forwarding on psh
[13:17:49]
<McMaarten> is it going to be rewritten in next openos version
[13:17:53] <payonel> similar to -X with ssh
[13:18:09] <payonel> well, i've rewritten edit a few times :)
[13:18:14]
<McMaarten> oof...
[13:18:21] <payonel> but it's never good enough to sneak into an update :)
[13:18:32] <Temia> I still want to go back and see about tackling extended GPUs, but that sounds like so much effort at this point .w.
[13:18:32]
<McMaarten> yay :)
[13:19:08] <Izaya> payonel: when I write the editor for mine I'll make sure it doesn't use anything beyond I/O
[13:19:16] <Izaya> and then there'll be a good vi clone for OpenOS too :D
[13:19:23] <payonel> excellent :)
[13:19:28] <Skye> Temia: a lazy way to do it would be to have a graphics overlay with a transparent colour
[13:19:31]
<McMaarten> When will OpenOS support multiple screens
[13:19:44] <Temia> Yeah
[13:19:47]
<McMaarten> or am i just dumb and does it already support it
[13:19:51] <Skye> Izaya: skedi
[13:19:51]
<McMaarten> :)
[13:19:59] <Izaya> Skye: sked works everywhere that runs lua
[13:20:05] <Skye> Lol
[13:20:17] <Temia> I was thinking either that or running it under the text layer, with black as transparent
[13:20:19] <payonel> @McMaarten openos core will (probably) never, to be honest. but i am currently working in the community software arena now
[13:20:32]
<McMaarten> yay
[13:20:38]
<McMaarten> let's hope it will
[13:20:41] <payonel> psh first, then scrolling and screen probably
[13:20:42] <Temia> Canvas resolution would probably be independent from screens with its own set of limitations
[13:21:24]
<McMaarten> Are there going to be primary displays, in case it gets added?
[13:21:40]
<McMaarten> I guess it will because of older programs not support multiple displays?
[13:22:12] <Skye> Temia: maybe allow selecting any colour to be transparwnt, or even tweak the API to have a transparent option?
[13:22:19] <Skye> It's lua, after all
[13:22:33] <Temia> Maybe.
[13:22:48]
<McMaarten> Is there the possibility to run like C#, C++ or C on a OC computer
[13:22:54]
<Bob> Payonel yes im on a trad forge server
[13:23:02]
<Bob> foamfix + vanillafix + JVM args
[13:23:08]
<Bob> 2768
[13:23:13] <payonel> @bob i dont remember your issue
[13:23:15] <payonel> what's wrong?
[13:24:49]
<Bob> File warning or something
[13:24:55]
<Bob> Did the server never started thing
[13:25:04] <Skye> @McMaarten not really, not efficiently, or without a different mod to add the low level code
[13:25:11] <payonel> oh, that was vex's work with file saving. ask hiim if it's bad
[13:25:49]
<Bob> ?
[13:26:38] <Vexatos> well that means FMLServerStartingEvent wasn't fired ,-,
[13:26:51] <Vexatos> s ouh
[13:28:18]
<Bob> Since it works, i think the new save system isnt compatible with the old detector, payoneo
[13:28:21]
<Bob> payonel*
[13:28:38] <payonel> heh, payo neo
[13:28:41] <payonel> i like that
[13:28:48] *** payonel is now known as payoneo
[13:30:26] *** payoneo is now known as payonel
[13:31:13] <Vexatos> it means something tried to save files before FMLServerStartingEvent
[13:31:50]
<Bob> ?
[13:33:57] <MichiBot> Elite Dangerous VR Is An Absolute Nightmare - This Is Why | length: 16m 1s | Likes: 0954,010 Dislikes: 041,729 Views: 1,655,915 | by UpIsNotJump | Published On 22/2/2018
[13:34:08] <Izaya> Excellent channel.
[13:34:35] <payonel> i really want to enjoy E:D
[13:34:38] <payonel> but i'm terrified
[13:35:26] <Lizzy> i need to play E:D again
[13:51:31] <Lizzy> %oclogs
[14:30:48]
<Bob> e
[14:31:02]
<Bob> i need to convert io.read to arrays
[14:31:34]
<Bob> ?
[14:32:19]
<Bob> Since my lua level is under 0 out of 10...
[14:33:00]
<Forecaster> you just need to grind a bunch it sounds like
[14:34:23]
<Bob> Yep i do
[14:35:13]
<Dudblockman> I was just thinking of something absurdly silly...
[14:35:16] <payonel> @bob huh?
[14:35:25] <payonel> you could use io.lines
[14:35:49] <payonel> or, local t = {} repeat local data = io.read() table.insert(t, data) until not data
[14:35:59] <payonel> i'm not sure what you're trying to do though
[14:36:03]
<Bob> any good lua guide
[14:36:13] <payonel> the book, or pil
[14:36:26]
<Bob> pil ?
[14:36:28]
<Dudblockman> Dunno if its capable via automation, but using a drone to rip a server out of the rack, fly it to another rack, jam it in, and then send it the wake message over the network.
[14:36:31] <Izaya> %pil
[14:36:52]
<Dudblockman> It just sounds so... stupid
[14:36:54]
<Dudblockman> I love it
[14:37:04] <Izaya> I imagine it'd work if you could get the drone above the rack
[14:37:14] <Izaya> they can't really suck from a specified direction beyond up/down last I heard
[14:37:25]
<Bob> You should be capable
[14:37:30]
<Dudblockman> Or a robot I guess
[14:37:38]
<Dudblockman> But it just sounds absurdly silly
[14:37:45]
<Bob> *pipes*
[14:37:49]
<Dudblockman> Just to transplant a server like that
[14:38:00] <payonel> @Dudblockman i haven't looked at the inventory interface of racks
[14:38:10] <Izaya> I've heard a story where they had a server with an insane uptime
[14:38:12] <payonel> test it first with an inventory controller on a robot next to a rack
[14:38:12] <Izaya> like 4 years
[14:38:17] <payonel> see what you see, see what you can remove
[14:38:19] <Izaya> and they wanted to keep it, but they were moving building
[14:38:20]
<Dudblockman> It popped into my head because I was thinking about a theoretical gray goo bot
[14:38:41]
<Dudblockman> And I was thinking about how it would be nice to have a central commander
[14:38:47] <Izaya> so they packed up the UPS and the server, got in a taxi, drove across town and hooked it up
[14:38:56]
<Dudblockman> Because decentralized networks are... more annoying
[14:39:04]
<Dudblockman> Easier to have a 'master'
[14:39:33]
<Dudblockman> And then I thought about how the central master would be left behind if the swarm moved on
[14:39:45]
<Dudblockman> And then I thought "why not pick up the master and move it"
[14:39:55] <Izaya> so uh
[14:39:59] <Izaya> why not make the master a drone
[14:40:09]
<Bob> o
[14:40:20]
<Dudblockman> And I also humored myself at the thought of trying to power the server via carpeted capacitors
[14:40:37]
<Dudblockman> Abducting all the local sheep and cats via drones with the lasso upgrade
[14:40:47]
<Bob> using sheep wool an steam turbine fuel ?
[14:40:50]
<Dudblockman> YOU WILL FEED THE SWARM
[14:41:52]
<Dudblockman> Just this entire skynet picture I have in my head is hilarious
[14:41:56] *** Quits: ba7888b72413a16a (ba7888b72413a16a!~ba7888b72@66.109.211.150) (Quit: WeeChat 2.3)
[14:42:34]
<Dudblockman> Robots chewing the world up
[14:42:43]
<Dudblockman> Drones abducting the local wildlife
[14:42:57]
<Dudblockman> Autocrafting more robots and drones
[14:43:55]
<Dudblockman> The central skynet server commanding the swarm
[14:45:58]
<Dudblockman> And this all started because I was thinking about my drone-based storage and autocrafting system concept
[14:46:21] *** Joins: ba7888b72413a16a (ba7888b72413a16a!~ba7888b72@66.109.211.150)
[14:50:16] <Skye> Izaya made a drone swram
[14:50:20] <Skye> it crashed a server
[14:50:23] <Izaya> ^
[14:50:25] <Izaya> bad idea
[14:50:35] <AmandaC> Wait, really?
[14:50:42] <Skye> first BTM
[14:50:48] <AmandaC> How'd that happen?
[14:51:03] <Skye> they all followed him and went into a single block
[14:51:05] <Lizzy> "more? More!" probably
[14:52:08] <payonel> @McMaarten still using psh?
[14:52:13] <payonel> any other issues?
[15:00:01] <MichiBot> christmas isn't real | length: 2m 17s | Likes: 0955,996 Dislikes: 041,900 Views: 677,147 | by bill wurtz | Published On 27/11/2018
[15:03:26] <payonel> %logs
[15:04:37] <payonel> Mimiru: is there a raw version of the log?
[15:05:39]
<Lizzian> you could do the download all option
[15:06:20] <payonel> oh hmm
[15:19:39] <payonel> LUA
[15:19:39] <MichiBot> Lua*
[15:21:36] <Michiyo> @Lizzian the download all just dumps out the mysql
[15:21:41] <Michiyo> payonel, yes but it's a per log thing
[15:21:49] <Michiyo> (The download all will be fixed... one day)
[15:21:55]
<Lizzian> ah
[15:23:24] <Michiyo> and also makes links clickable.. hmm
[15:25:21] <Michiyo> there, moved Discord image thing out of plain
[15:25:52] <payonel> ok nice
[15:25:55] <payonel> thanks Michiyo
[15:26:15] <Michiyo> np
[15:26:23] <Michiyo> one day the download all link will work again
[15:26:45] <Michiyo> it's just really slow with the move to the DB instead of flat files..
[15:27:05] <payonel> i only care for latest (current day or last 24h)
[15:27:25] <payonel> so day by day, in raw form
[15:27:54] <Michiyo> well, easy enough with the above link, just change the date
[15:27:55] <Michiyo> :P
[15:28:00] <payonel> aye
[15:57:17] <MichiBot> [OpenComputers] Immersive Signal Block probably | length: 37s | Likes: 090 Dislikes: 040 Views: 0 | by Elizabeth | Published On 30/11/2018
[15:58:07]
<Lizzian> might want to wait an hour or so cause of shit quality, thanks youtube
[15:59:04]
<Lizzian> and yes, i did put Gas Gas Gas on just for that video but now i'm listening to it anyway lol
[16:24:18] <MichiBot> Controlling Trains - Network Rail engineering education (3 of 15) | length: 11m 33s | Likes: 092,519 Dislikes: 04233 Views: 1,110,864 | by Network Rail | Published On 27/3/2012
[16:24:55] <Lizzy> you've posted that before, i think
[16:26:07] <Skye> Lizzy, you could do the signal colours bit.
[16:27:48] <Lizzy> The eventual plan will be a 4 aspect signal similar to the ones in use along the london-southend line near me. that's proceed, advanced caution, caution and stop
[16:28:03] <Lizzy> i think that's their 'official' names
[16:28:47] <Lizzy> also later iterations (maybe tomorrow) will actually be able to work out multiple consecutive blocks rather than just one on a loop
[16:29:55] <Skye> it's danger, not stop
[16:30:04] <Skye> :P
[16:30:10] <Skye> also that's all UK signalling
[16:30:25] <Skye> clear, prelimary caution, caution, danger
[16:30:32] <Lizzy> ah, i haven't been anywhere other than my local area so i didn't kow
[16:49:53] <stephan48> %tonk
[16:49:55] <MichiBot> I'm sorry stephan48, you were not able to beat CompanionCube's record of 13 hours, 55 minutes and 30 seconds this time.
[16:49:56] <MichiBot> 9 hours, 1 minute and 23 seconds were wasted!
[16:54:52] <AmandaC> %choose drugs or halucinagenics
[16:54:53] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Why not both?
[16:54:59] <stephan48> hahaha
[16:55:14] <AmandaC> Right, halucinate it is
[16:55:41] * AmandaC cuddles up in her nook of the ceiling, starts reading some
[16:56:30] <AmandaC> %roll 1d2
[16:56:30] <MichiBot> AmandaC: [2]
[16:56:34] <AmandaC> sounds good
[17:04:26] *** Quits: Vexatos (Vexatos!~Vexatos@p200300C107205E959D4A4BDACBD6FD17.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Quit: Insert quantum chemistry joke here)
[17:11:16] *** Quits: ba7888b72413a16a (ba7888b72413a16a!~ba7888b72@66.109.211.150) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[17:11:45] *** Joins: ba7888b72413a16a (ba7888b72413a16a!~ba7888b72@66.109.211.150)
[17:17:32] *** Quits: Inari (Inari!~Pinkishu@p5DEC69FB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Quit: KVIrc 5.0.0 Aria
http://www.kvirc.net/)
[17:51:37]
<Z0idburg> Huh
[17:51:43]
<Z0idburg> Today I learned of the term Snowflake
[17:51:56]
<Z0idburg> dafuq is that shit
[17:52:17]
<Z0idburg> I shouldn't be 30 and already concerned in fear for the future generations
[17:52:22]
<Z0idburg> that's just messed up
[17:52:44]
<Z0idburg> that's something that's supposed to happen when you're old enough to have a cane
[17:54:01] *** Quits: logan2611 (logan2611!~logan2611@71-218-60-225.hlrn.qwest.net) (Remote host closed the connection)
[17:54:05] <Izaya> as in special snowflake?
[17:54:52]
<Z0idburg> yes
[17:55:40]
<MGR> You just learned that?
[17:55:41]
<MGR> ?
[17:56:31]
<Z0idburg> apparently
[17:56:36]
<Z0idburg> I never heard that term before
[17:56:48]
<Z0idburg> all this time I've been calling them emotionally retarded
[17:56:57] <Izaya> kek that works too
[17:57:14]
<Z0idburg> OH HEY it's whats her face
[17:57:24]
<Z0idburg> from SG0
[17:57:31]
<Z0idburg> rigght?
[17:57:41] <Izaya> and plain S;G
[17:58:06] <Izaya> kurisu a qt
[17:58:20] <Izaya> iunno I thought it was more interesting than that fucking pikachu
[17:58:52]
<Z0idburg> Oh it looks more like the other girl that looks like kurisu
[17:58:55]
<Z0idburg> in SG0
[17:59:03]
<Z0idburg> but I guess I haven't seen either of em for a while
[17:59:05] <Skye> Wut
[17:59:19]
<Z0idburg> so I thought SG0 was going to be all about how to save Kurisu then it ended and still no Kurisu
[17:59:20]
<Z0idburg> lol
[17:59:28]
<Z0idburg> I was like aww man
[17:59:44]
<Z0idburg> ohi skye
[17:59:55] <Izaya> someone didn't watch after the credits
[18:00:03]
<Z0idburg> I didnt
[18:04:53]
<Z0idburg> NOOOOOOOO
[18:05:02]
<Z0idburg> get it away get it awaaaaaaaay
[18:05:11] <Izaya> >Pentium 4
[18:05:12]
<Z0idburg> That logo is going to give me nightmares
[18:05:14] <Izaya> feels warm man
[18:05:44]
<Z0idburg> Needs to be Pentium 5
[18:05:49]
<Z0idburg> XD lolololol
[18:06:00]
<Z0idburg> Well that was a joke but I just realized
[18:06:08]
<Z0idburg> didnt they make a "pentium" a few years back?
[18:06:13]
<Z0idburg> that was basically like the semprons of inte
[18:06:15]
<Z0idburg> intel*
[18:06:48] <Izaya> I mean, you've been able to get pentium-branded chips for like 10 years
[18:06:51] <Izaya> low-end parts
[18:07:10] <Izaya> G3258 was actually pretty nice, could OC to like 4.5Ghz
[18:07:18]
<Z0idburg> heh
[18:07:27]
<Z0idburg> I need a new 486 motherboard
[18:07:30]
<Z0idburg> I've been very sad
[18:07:41]
<Z0idburg> Even a 386 would be ok but a 486 runs FreeBSD
[18:13:24]
<Z0idburg> Izaya you've maintained a lot of memory from the older hardware days, lots of things I've forgotten
[18:13:58]
<Z0idburg> did any 486 motherboards have any sort of case standard?
[18:14:05]
<Z0idburg> because some of them don't
[18:14:37] <Izaya> That was pre-ATX
[18:14:39] <Izaya> probably AT?
[18:14:51]
<Z0idburg> yes AT
[18:15:03]
<Z0idburg> however, not all 486 motherboards had the same IO port style
[18:15:08]
<Z0idburg> some of them had risers
[18:15:12]
<Z0idburg> and the cards were sideways
[18:15:21]
<Z0idburg> and I'm sure the position of those cards isn't standard at all
[18:15:34]
<Z0idburg> then, some hjad many more IO slots than others
[18:15:40]
<Z0idburg> like a LOT more than normal
[18:15:46]
<Z0idburg> more than you had IRQs for
[18:15:49] <Izaya> More than 7?
[18:16:07] <Skye> Baby AT
[18:16:08] <Izaya> Baby AT may also be relevant
[18:16:14] * Izaya high-fives Skye
[18:16:17]
<Z0idburg> yes I think I saw one with 8 ISA 16 bit if you include the what you call it port that hercules video cards used
[18:16:19]
<Z0idburg> V something
[18:16:28] <Izaya> VESA
[18:16:32]
<Z0idburg> no
[18:16:52] <Izaya> VLB?
[18:17:58]
<Z0idburg> maybe
[18:18:08]
<Z0idburg> the bottom 3 ports
[18:18:50]
<Z0idburg> yes
[18:19:01] <Izaya> VESA Local Bus, or VLB
[18:19:29]
<Z0idburg> oh thats what vlb was so then yes
[18:19:33]
<Z0idburg> also
[18:19:36]
<Z0idburg> 8 port mobo
[18:19:57] <Izaya> that looks like a baby AT board
[18:20:01]
<Z0idburg> ...
[18:20:04]
<Z0idburg> it looks like a 386 board
[18:20:20]
<Z0idburg> itis not ZIF and has a coprocessor socket
[18:20:21] * Izaya has never paid much attention
[18:20:33]
<Z0idburg> I don't remember any non ZIF 486s but can be wrong
[18:20:58] <Izaya> I know full-size ATX allows for 7 slots so there's that
[18:21:24]
<Z0idburg> hm
[18:21:37]
<Z0idburg> I have a baby AT board lying around
[18:21:40]
<Z0idburg> if thats the case
[18:21:45]
<Z0idburg> it's pretty small
[18:21:58]
<Z0idburg> also it has a type of memory I could not identify
[18:22:00]
<Z0idburg> that is older than EDO
[18:22:03]
<Z0idburg> but isn't DIP
[18:22:09]
<Z0idburg> I don't remember them at all
[18:22:15] <Skye> SIMM?
[18:22:22] <Skye> 30 pin SIMM?
[18:22:26]
<Z0idburg> maybe, I can count the pins its so -- yes
[18:22:28]
<Z0idburg> about that much
[18:22:42] <Skye> That's cheap on ebay
[18:22:43] <Skye> It's like
[18:22:52] <Skye> Soldering the DIP chips to a card
[18:22:56] <Skye> With minimal routing
[18:23:02] <Skye> There is no logic
[18:23:04]
<Z0idburg> my other 486 board that isnt working has EDO which is the memory I always remembered
[18:23:08]
<Z0idburg> yeah
[18:23:20] <Skye> You'd need at least 4 slots of the same size
[18:23:25] <Skye> Due to 32 bit bus
[18:23:27]
<Z0idburg> oh really
[18:23:31]
<Z0idburg> yeah that makes sense
[18:23:44] <Skye> It has got 8 slots... So...
[18:24:04]
<Z0idburg> but I was hoping to get a new 486 motherboard that I can get a case for
[18:24:12]
<Z0idburg> and put it together
[18:24:41]
<Z0idburg> it makes me wonder if ATX cases are backwards compatible with AT
[18:24:50]
<Z0idburg> in terms of screw points
[18:24:57]
<Z0idburg> and IO
[18:25:39]
<Z0idburg> I suppose I could lasercut / 3D print or CNC my own case?
[18:25:52]
<Z0idburg> I have a friend with a lasercutter
[18:26:05]
<Z0idburg> actually I have acces sto all three of those
[18:26:24]
<Z0idburg> 3D printing one would be a bit weird
[18:26:31]
<Z0idburg> and the laser cant cut metal
[18:27:19]
<Z0idburg> I could lasercut fiberglass but fiberglass is brittle I thought
[18:27:52] <Izaya> acrylic?
[18:28:01]
<Z0idburg> Never used that
[18:28:09]
<Z0idburg> how does that stuff work?
[18:29:20] <Skye> You can heat it to bend it.
[18:29:32] <Skye> You can lasercut it.
[18:29:46] <Skye> It's pretty strong
[18:29:50]
<Z0idburg> hm
[18:29:52] <Skye> It's in many different colours
[18:29:57]
<Z0idburg> is that like plexi/lexan?
[18:29:59] <Izaya> Not overly brittle, can be clear
[18:30:22] <Izaya> Easy enough to cut with a saw, too
[18:30:26]
<Z0idburg> huh
[18:30:34]
<Z0idburg> hazaedous like ceramic?
[18:30:41] <Izaya> I don't think so.
[18:30:55] <Izaya> If you heated your saw it'd cauterize the cut anyway :^)
[18:31:10] <Skye> If schools can use it... Then it's unlikely to be too bad.
[18:31:22]
<Z0idburg> lol
[18:31:27]
<Z0idburg> ceramic is nasty
[18:31:48] <Skye> It's a type of plastic
[18:31:52] <Izaya> design and tech at school is where I was using it so it can't be that bad
[18:32:12]
<Z0idburg> acrylic?
[18:32:48]
<Z0idburg> I have a resparator for cutting ceramic ?
[18:33:03] *** Quits: Stary (Stary!Stary@osiris.9net.org) (Ping timeout: 190 seconds)
[18:33:07] *** Quits: Fridtjof (Fridtjof!prassel@osiris.9net.org) (Ping timeout: 183 seconds)
[18:33:34] <Izaya> smiling_face_with_open_mouth_and_smiling_eyes indeed
[18:33:45]
<Z0idburg> lol
[18:33:47] <Skye> Acrylic is safe enough
[18:33:52]
<Z0idburg> cool
[18:34:04] <Izaya> there was a big thing here a while back
[18:34:19] <Izaya> about how people were getting like, lung cancer or whatever, from cutting concrete without watering it down
[18:34:48] <Izaya> not good for you
[18:35:03]
<Z0idburg> they used to put a lot of other stuff in concrete and most of those people work with it every single day
[18:35:22]
<Z0idburg> it's like coal minig
[18:35:24]
<Z0idburg> mining*
[18:35:34]
<Z0idburg> you'll be fine if you've been down there once
[18:35:39]
<Z0idburg> probably
[18:35:52] <Izaya> if you keep it covered in water it stops most of the dust but that wasn't happening
[18:35:52]
<Z0idburg> but you sure as hell don't want to be exposed to it on a daily basis
[18:36:42]
<Z0idburg> I always mized my cement by hand but the trick is to do it outdoors
[18:36:53]
<Z0idburg> and to not make a dusty mess if you can help it
[18:36:59]
<Z0idburg> but a little dust flies and you'll be fine
[18:37:32]
<Z0idburg> you want an area full of ventilation because even if you don't get a disease from it it's not fun to get anything in your lungs no matter what it is
[18:37:41]
<Z0idburg> like for example sawdust
[18:38:24]
<Z0idburg> Izaya I think it's more dangerous when I see people carry around pressure treated wood that's still wet with their bare hands
[18:38:36]
<Z0idburg> that stuff wil lmake you really fucking sick
[18:40:13]
<Z0idburg> When it dries it's perfectly safe, and I was really mad when some dumbass mother made our town tear down the wooden playground because her kid got a splinter
[18:40:30]
<Z0idburg> I've probably gotten a lot deper larger splinters than any of her kids combined from that playground
[18:40:38]
<Z0idburg> big deal
[18:42:35]
<Z0idburg> on the other hand Izaya I redid my entire foundation pointing and even rebuilt parts of my entire brick and stone foundation to my house with mortar, which can be concrete based. That stuff is tons of fun
[18:43:46] <Skye> Goodnight
[18:44:05]
<Z0idburg> skye you go to bed so early!
[18:44:20] <Skye> Timezones
[18:44:27] <Skye> It's 1am here roughly
[18:44:29]
<Z0idburg> I tease really, I know you'r ein another timezone
[18:47:52] <Izaya> that stuff would all be really interesting but I'm not in a position to do it right now I'm afraid
[18:49:30]
<Z0idburg> no?
[18:50:18] <Izaya> give it a few years and I'll be able to do stuff more interesting than work on computers and motorcycles I imagine
[18:50:32] <Izaya> tfw not living out in the bush any more
[18:54:59]
<Z0idburg> OMG WTF progressive
[18:55:09]
<Z0idburg> these frigging automated payment systems right?
[18:55:25]
<Z0idburg> YOU CAN HEAR RECORDED TYPING IN THE BACKGROUND WHEN YOU ANSWER ITS QUESTIONS
[18:55:34]
<Z0idburg> it's a stupid software program
[18:55:36]
<Z0idburg> ...
[18:55:54]
<MGR> The typing is extremely annoying
[18:56:40]
<Z0idburg> you've dealt withit too?
[18:57:02]
<Z0idburg> some places they play this like, 1970s / 1960s style computer synth beeps
[18:57:04]
<Z0idburg> instead
[18:57:08]
<Z0idburg> it's weird af
[18:58:49]
<Z0idburg> wtf
[18:58:54]
<Z0idburg> cat is eating the cast iron frying pan
[18:59:26]
<MGR> I've heard the typing
[19:00:21]
<Z0idburg> welp $150 later
[19:00:35]
<Z0idburg> I feel like I paid $150 for hearing a robot type
[19:16:46] <AmandaC> @Z0idburg probably similar lines of thnking as the artifical "uhm" and "er..."s added by the version of Duplex they showed off at I/O
[19:20:44]
<Z0idburg> bhmm
[19:21:09]
<Z0idburg> You know I also just noticed GMail tried to type for me while I was typing
[19:21:11]
<Z0idburg> wtf is this crap
[19:21:20]
<Z0idburg> I'm glad it asked me if I wanted it shut off
[19:21:33]
<Z0idburg> It's almost like people are just lazy now
[19:21:38]
<Z0idburg> and can't think for themselves
[19:21:59] <Izaya> Something like that.
[19:22:05] <Izaya> though
[19:22:11] <Izaya> >not using a real mail client
[19:22:15] <AmandaC> IT's almost like the human condition is to type the same set of things over and over, in a way that a sufficently advanced algroythem can replicate it in a mostly-natural looking way.
[19:22:22]
<Z0idburg> Yes it's interesting, it's really cool it can do that, just stop pushing your values onto my shit
[19:22:23]
<Z0idburg> lol
[19:22:26] <Izaya> I mean surely gmail being slower than molasses is encouragement
[19:23:22] <AmandaC> .markov S3
[19:23:29] <AmandaC> What was ocdoc's command char again?
[19:23:35] <Izaya> ~
[19:23:41] <AmandaC> ~markov S3
[19:23:43] <ocdoc> I need to finish it all manually installed forge XD
[19:23:57] <AmandaC> Drop the last two tokens, and that'd work.
[19:24:08]
<Z0idburg> When I was a kid I remember when things seemed so new, new things that you never saw before in technology etc, everything was so cool. Did I want it? Yes, but it was my choice, of course, most of it I could never have then, but I I admired that it was something I could do if I wanted instead of an everyday adaptation
[19:24:59]
<Z0idburg> I feel like I am being forced to adapt to the changes of the world every day. It's okay to have a few, but there are plenty of things like cell phones.. poeple don't understand why I can't use them effectively like other people can
[19:26:06] *** Joins: Fridtjof (Fridtjof!~prassel@osiris.9net.org)
[19:26:13]
<Z0idburg> It's not like I expected the world to be the same today when it was the mid 90s
[19:26:37]
<Z0idburg> but I didn't expect everyone to be expected to be part of it
[19:27:08] <AmandaC> You clearly had a more optimistic idea of humans than I did when I was younger.
[19:27:16]
<Z0idburg> In the 90s things were very different. You weren't even expected to have a computer.
[19:27:21]
<Z0idburg> Oh?
[19:27:25] <AmandaC> It's always been clear to me that the state of humans is "You fit in, or you're an outcast"
[19:27:51]
<Z0idburg> Well it is highly possible that part of this is due to Maine being on the edge of the bandwagon
[19:27:51] <AmandaC> Adapt or die (socially)
[19:27:58]
<Z0idburg> we tend to adopt things much more slowly
[19:28:19]
<Z0idburg> and part of that is not geographical, but that most of us are senior citizens
[19:30:47]
<Z0idburg> AmandaC: That's the thing, I do feel like quite an outcast. Though I don't think it hinders my survival
[19:31:20]
<Z0idburg> I don't actually go around people telling them that they're wrong for the way they live
[19:31:38]
<Z0idburg> however, I do honk at people and yell at them to put their fucking phone away at intersections
[19:32:01] <AmandaC> anyway, back to cube crack with me
[19:32:04] <Izaya> That's endangering other people rather than just themselves
[19:32:16]
<Z0idburg> ?
[19:33:24] <Izaya> Driving while using a phone is endangering other people on the road
[19:33:35]
<Z0idburg> yes
[19:33:52]
<Z0idburg> but I don't even like it when people stop at an intersection and pull out their phone because they're at a red light
[19:34:03]
<Z0idburg> that's WHY it takes 5 minutes to get on the highway onramp from 300 feet away
[19:34:16]
<Z0idburg> because the light goes green and it takes 5 frigging red lights to get on
[19:34:28]
<Z0idburg> and only a few cars go through
[19:34:54]
<Z0idburg> I'm actually thinking of stopping from yelling at these people
[19:35:02]
<Z0idburg> and installing a camera in my car
[19:35:22] <Izaya> hm
[19:35:22]
<Z0idburg> so that when I see somebody do that, I can honk, then take a picture
[19:35:34]
<Z0idburg> then upload it to facebook or something
[19:35:36] <Izaya> the flat tuning of these headphones makes these songs sound different
[19:35:40]
<Z0idburg> and make a list of idiots
[19:36:02]
<Z0idburg> nah, facebook is dumb
[19:36:10]
<Z0idburg> but it would be useful since almost everyone uses facebook anyways
[19:40:06]
<Z0idburg> Look accurate?
[19:40:18] <Izaya> somewhat
[19:41:43]
<Z0idburg> dahek
[19:42:30] <Izaya> oh did you see the australian space program
[19:43:36] <MichiBot> Deer Fight | length: 1m 40s | Likes: 09477 Dislikes: 0427 Views: 140,807 | by G4ViralVideos | Published On 4/4/2013
[19:43:37]
<Z0idburg> ?
[19:44:39]
<Z0idburg> I feel like he should have held onto that plane
[19:44:50] <Izaya> and as far as wildlife goes...
[19:45:22]
<Z0idburg> lol wat
[19:46:20]
<Z0idburg> I think my next paycheck I'm going to dump like $800 into my credit card
[20:04:57] <Lizzy> %remindme 8h attach metal to desk to increase structual integrity
[20:04:58] <MichiBot> I'll remind you about "attach metal to desk to increase structual integrity" at 12/01/2018 04:04:57 AM
[20:24:06]
<Z0idburg> I need a chord progression
[20:30:56]
<Z0idburg> ok
[20:30:59]
<Z0idburg> testing
[20:31:25] <Mimiru> %tonk
[20:31:25] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Mimiru, you were not able to beat CompanionCube's record of 13 hours, 55 minutes and 30 seconds this time.
[20:31:26] <MichiBot> 3 hours, 41 minutes and 30 seconds were wasted!
[20:31:29] <Mimiru> shity
[20:31:32] <Mimiru> -y
[20:31:37]
<Z0idburg> I know it does sound shitty
[20:31:48]
<Z0idburg> I should come up with a different chord progression
[20:32:19] <Izaya> oh, S3, wanna see something neat?
[20:32:25]
<Z0idburg> whats that
[20:32:38]
<Z0idburg> uh
[20:32:43]
<Z0idburg> is that your eeprom for OC?
[20:32:44]
<Z0idburg> ?
[20:32:47]
<Z0idburg> minitel?
[20:32:49]
<Z0idburg> microtel*
[20:32:58] <Izaya> Conversations added a feature that lets you add a contact (including their OMEMO fingerprints) by scanning a QR code
[20:33:11]
<Z0idburg> oh?
[20:33:17]
<Z0idburg> what is conversations?
[20:33:26] <Izaya> XMPP client for Android
[20:33:34]
<Z0idburg> OH NO XMPP
[20:33:35]
<Z0idburg> ewwwww
[20:33:41] <Izaya> hey man
[20:33:44]
<Z0idburg> I was excited for a second
[20:33:50] <Izaya> the protocol is messy but
[20:34:04] <Izaya> it's the most practical secure IM setup currently available
[22:10:10]
<Z0idburg> I dunno
[22:10:20]
<Z0idburg> what about diversadial
[22:10:21]
<Z0idburg> ?
[22:13:22] <Izaya> I'll admit, that's probably not monitored by Five Eyes countries
[22:13:30] <Izaya> not for online communication, anyway
[22:13:44] <Izaya> unless they decode modem tones, which I suppose wouldn't be that much of a stretch
[22:14:40]
<Z0idburg> heh
[22:15:25]
<Z0idburg> then again
[22:16:50]
<Z0idburg> you can use them to spoof both aller ID string and number
[22:17:45]
<Z0idburg> I can't give details, but I was looking at some trouble somebody was having with their phone line today
[22:18:26]
<Z0idburg> and it turns out that they were receiving anonyous calls even when their line rejects them
[22:19:07]
<Z0idburg> well what was happening is that the asshats calling him were spoofing their actual caller ID string as "anonymus caller" so that anonymous call blocking wouldn't catch it.
[22:25:11] <Izaya> neat
[22:28:31] <Izaya> still
[22:28:38] <Izaya> they don't use caller ID for monitoring
[23:01:19] *** Joins: logan2611 (logan2611!~logan2611@71-218-60-225.hlrn.qwest.net)
[23:55:22] <AmandaC> Psi is an... Interesting magic mod
[23:55:46] <AmandaC> Guess I'll sleep instead of continuing to toy with it
[23:55:59] <AmandaC> Night nerds
[23:56:44] <Izaya> o7