L1[00:05:34] <AmandaC> Behold, with this One
Weird Trick, I made my C++ <-> Lua bindings somewhat safer
(when I actually use the function) https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/NM1GQLGd/snippet.hh
L2[00:06:39] <AmandaC> I think I'll make the
non-templated one private next
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L4[00:14:20] <Michi> and rsync shit
itself... so back to scpI guess
L5[00:14:29] <Michi> s/pI/p I/
L6[00:14:32] <Michi> ._>
L7[00:14:34] <Michi> right
L8[01:34:02] <Michi> oof, biggest disk on
Eos is going to take 1.5 hours to transfer ._.
L9[01:38:54] <Temia> Hm, any idea where the
current Computronics release is? Vexatos.com isn't responding at
all .w.
L10[01:40:13] <Michi> files.vexatos.com :/
Which is on the drive.. that is currently transfering to my new
server.
L11[01:40:21] <Temia> Oof
L12[01:40:22] <Temia> Alrighty
L13[01:41:03] <Temia> I hope that goes
well!
L14[01:41:12] <Michi> yeaaaah... I was
hoping to have had this done last night ~midnightish
L15[01:41:21] <Michi> but they didn't spin
the damn thing up til 7:30 this morning
L16[01:41:26] <Michi> and I've been stupid
busy all day
L17[01:41:33] <Michi> Thanks, me too..
lol
L18[01:42:43] <Michi> Eos is just 2 disks
though, so when this one is done I can spin it up, and try to fix
networking..
L19[01:43:09] <Michi> still showing 1:29
for the ETA though ._.
L20[02:03:55] <Michi> aww fuck... my IPv6
range changed ._.
L21[02:04:05] <Michi> thanks
assholes.
L22[02:19:16] *
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L23[02:19:42] <Michi> why networking still
bork
L24[02:29:20] <Michi> I hate OVH's network
setup so much.
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L27[02:57:29] <Michi> well.. really glad I
moved that scp session into a screen when I did
L28[02:57:33] <Michi> fuckin internet
dropped
L29[03:02:13] <AmandaC> \o/
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L37[06:17:56] <Michi> god fucking damn it
OVH
L38[06:17:58] <Michi> fuck you..
L39[06:22:02] <Michi> wow... transfers
finished, left me with 2.0GB on /home
L40[06:23:09] <Izaya> perfection
L41[06:47:37] <Michi> Still can't get
networking going on any of them
L42[06:48:43] <Michi> Oh
L43[06:48:44] <Michi> I see
L44[06:48:52] <Michi> I forgot to move the
failover block
L45[06:57:02] <Michi> Oh, so many things
are very upset about ipv6 being broken
L46[06:57:03] *
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L49[07:00:09] <Michi> uh oh..
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L55[07:04:51] <Michi> migrated to the new
block for my override
L56[07:04:53] <Michi> almost forgot to
lol
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L59[07:05:49] <Michi> Connected...
instantly disconnects, then reconnects
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L62[07:05:50] <Michi> lol
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L65[07:06:30] <Mimiru> ./yui.sh start
L66[07:06:32] <Mimiru> Host down skipping
update, starting bot.
L67[07:06:38] <Mimiru> well.. at least that
still works
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L69[07:06:50] <Mimiru> o/ Discord!
L70[07:06:59] 
<Kleadron>
what do you want
<Kleadron>
what do you wantL71[07:07:10] <Mimiru> Just letting you
know the bridge is back
L72[07:07:22] <Kleadron> i
thought it was always up
<Kleadron> i
thought it was always upL73[07:07:28] <Kleadron> k
cool
<Kleadron> k
coolL74[07:07:38] <Mimiru> It went down when I
moved the VMs to a new dedi
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L76[07:08:05] <Kleadron>
hello stranger
<Kleadron>
hello strangerL77[07:08:24] <Kleadron>
how are we on this fine day
<Kleadron>
how are we on this fine dayL78[07:10:30] ⇨
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L81[07:15:07] <Izaya> and it was so nice
for a while
L82[07:15:48] <Kleadron>
now i feel like i ruined everything
<Kleadron>
now i feel like i ruined everythingL83[07:24:16] <Skye> Don't mind Izaya
L84[07:24:29] <Izaya> Nobody else does
\o/
L85[07:25:52] <Mimiru> %tell Temia https://files.vexatos.com/?dir=Computronics Sorry
for the long downtime.
L86[07:25:53] <Kleadron>
why are my browser tabs full of power plugs
<Kleadron>
why are my browser tabs full of power plugsL87[07:25:53] <MichiBot> Mimiru: Temia will
be notified of this message when next seen.
L88[07:27:32] <Kleadron>
%loot
<Kleadron>
%lootL89[07:27:34] <MichiBot> Kleadron: You get
a loot box! It contains a hard cloud.
L90[07:31:12] <Skye> My hovercraft is full
of eels
L91[07:32:29] <Kleadron>
why do you haveone
<Kleadron>
why do you haveoneL92[07:32:32] <Kleadron>
have one*
<Kleadron>
have one*L93[07:32:58] ⇨
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L94[07:36:29] <Izaya> my space station is
full of eels
L95[07:41:38] <Mimiru> The eels are full of
eels!
L96[07:51:04] <Kleadron>
those are called parisites
<Kleadron>
those are called parisitesL97[07:55:47] <Kleadron>
Extremely Unusual Troubles
<Kleadron>
Extremely Unusual TroublesL98[08:15:34] <Kodos>
%loot
<Kodos>
%lootL99[08:15:36] <MichiBot> Kodos: You get a
loot box! It contains corn on the cob.
L100[08:15:44] <Kodos>
Oooh, and I was hungry, too
<Kodos>
Oooh, and I was hungry, tooL101[08:18:38] <CraigK>
Hello, I'm new to OC. I'm loving the mod so far. Is there anyone
here who can talk to me about building the project from source with
Gradle?
<CraigK>
Hello, I'm new to OC. I'm loving the mod so far. Is there anyone
here who can talk to me about building the project from source with
Gradle?L102[08:19:48] <Forecaster>
why do you need to do that?
<Forecaster>
why do you need to do that?L103[08:20:35] <CraigK> I'm
trying to set some custom configurations. Specifically I'm trying
to disable the need for power and remove localhost from the
blacklist. I figured I'd need to change the application.conf and
rebuild.
<CraigK> I'm
trying to set some custom configurations. Specifically I'm trying
to disable the need for power and remove localhost from the
blacklist. I figured I'd need to change the application.conf and
rebuild.L104[08:21:01] <Mimiru> we've been working
on mirroring all of the deps for the various versions. Though I
think there is an issue with Forge's maven that is causing issues
for lots of people
L105[08:21:20] <Mimiru> Why not just
change that in the mod's config file?
L106[08:21:25] <Kodos>
Isn't both of those options in the config?
<Kodos>
Isn't both of those options in the config?L107[08:21:46] <Kodos> Yes,
yes they are
<Kodos> Yes,
yes they areL108[08:21:50] <Mimiru> Yep
L109[08:21:59] <Kodos>
Yeah, just checked
<Kodos>
Yeah, just checkedL110[08:22:02] <CraigK> So
maybe I'm not familiar with how to change the config. Are you
saying I can do that without the need to rebuild?
<CraigK> So
maybe I'm not familiar with how to change the config. Are you
saying I can do that without the need to rebuild?L111[08:22:08] <Mimiru> yes..
L112[08:22:15] <Kodos> I'm
going to assume you're new to MC modding?
<Kodos> I'm
going to assume you're new to MC modding?L113[08:22:22] <CraigK>
Very
<CraigK>
VeryL114[08:22:25] <Kodos>
Right, so
<Kodos>
Right, soL115[08:22:31] <Kodos> In
your Minecraft folder, there's a subfolder called Config
<Kodos> In
your Minecraft folder, there's a subfolder called ConfigL116[08:22:37] <Mimiru>
config\opencomputers\settings.conf
L117[08:22:37] <Kodos> Most
mods will have a file in there, including OC
<Kodos> Most
mods will have a file in there, including OCL118[08:22:40] <Kodos>
Where you cna change settings
<Kodos>
Where you cna change settingsL119[08:22:43] <Kodos>
^
<Kodos>
^L120[08:22:44] <Kodos> WHat
she said
<Kodos> WHat
she saidL121[08:22:51] <Mimiru> in recent MC
versions that's the path
L122[08:22:56] <Mimiru> in older.. it's
slightly different
L123[08:23:09] <Mimiru>
config\opencomputers.conf I think
L124[08:23:25] <Kodos> You
can open the config and look for `requirePower` I think for the
power setting, and `localhost` to find the blacklist and remove
it
<Kodos> You
can open the config and look for `requirePower` I think for the
power setting, and `localhost` to find the blacklist and remove
itL125[08:23:37] <CraigK>
Well what do you know... `~/.minecraft/config/opencomputers`
<CraigK>
Well what do you know... `~/.minecraft/config/opencomputers`L126[08:23:42] <Kodos> That
would be the one
<Kodos> That
would be the oneL127[08:24:05] <CraigK>
Wow, ok, thanks! That's way easier than I thought
<CraigK>
Wow, ok, thanks! That's way easier than I thoughtL128[08:24:08] <Kodos>
Aye
<Kodos>
AyeL129[08:24:20] <Kodos> Most
(competent) mod developers will put a lot of their settings in a
config
<Kodos> Most
(competent) mod developers will put a lot of their settings in a
configL130[08:25:52] <Mimiru> The rest of us put
a few in configs.
L131[08:25:53] <Mimiru> :P
L132[08:26:18] <CraigK>
Well I'm really grateful there are still people to help out at 1 in
the morning.
<CraigK>
Well I'm really grateful there are still people to help out at 1 in
the morning.L133[08:26:43] <Mimiru> Well I'm only here
because a work project ran waaay late
L134[08:28:01] <Kodos> I'm
here because, well, I don't sleep
<Kodos> I'm
here because, well, I don't sleepL135[08:28:17] <Kodos>
Though that might be the chocolate
<Kodos>
Though that might be the chocolateL136[08:28:34] <Mimiru> Thankfully, the
rest of this will run on it's own while I sleep... hopefully to
completion
L137[08:28:39] <Kodos>
Gotta love 99 cent bags of kitkats
<Kodos>
Gotta love 99 cent bags of kitkatsL138[08:28:46] <Mimiru> since... they go
live with what they get in about 4 hours.
L139[08:29:05] <Kodos> What
are you working on anyway
<Kodos> What
are you working on anywayL140[08:29:17] <Mimiru> Work.
L141[08:29:17] <CraigK>
Me?
<CraigK>
Me?L142[08:29:19] <Mimiru> lol
L143[08:29:40] <Kodos> Both
of you I suppose
<Kodos> Both
of you I supposeL144[08:29:52] <Mimiru> "Database
Management" :P
L145[08:30:00] <Kodos>
Speaking of databases ?
<Kodos>
Speaking of databases ?L146[08:30:10] <Mimiru> Yep, speaking of
them.
L147[08:30:28] <Mimiru> 21.1GB @
48.4KB/s
L148[08:30:30] *
Mimiru sighs
L149[08:30:42] <Mimiru> aren't slow
network drives the best?
L150[08:31:41] <Mimiru> (And this is why I
spent last week automating a large chunk of my job)
L151[08:31:53] <CraigK> I'm
trying to use open computers to set up an ai agent. Just need the
local host to easily get the state information out to the
DQN.
<CraigK> I'm
trying to use open computers to set up an ai agent. Just need the
local host to easily get the state information out to the
DQN.L152[08:32:11] <Izaya> DQN?
L153[08:32:22] <CraigK>
Deep Q Network
<CraigK>
Deep Q NetworkL154[08:33:07] <CraigK>
It's a way to use a neural network for reinforcement learning
<CraigK>
It's a way to use a neural network for reinforcement learningL155[08:33:22] <Izaya> neat, I guess
L156[08:34:38] <CraigK> You
mean this neat: http://nn.cs.utexas.edu/downloads/papers/stanley.ec02.pdf
<CraigK> You
mean this neat: http://nn.cs.utexas.edu/downloads/papers/stanley.ec02.pdfL157[08:34:58] <Izaya> whatcha gonna use
it for
L158[08:37:34] <Kodos> I
prefer Dave for AIs, I guess
<Kodos> I
prefer Dave for AIs, I guessL159[08:38:39] <CraigK> I'm
just trying to learn how to apply this stuff. Figured MC would be a
good place. What's Dave?
<CraigK> I'm
just trying to learn how to apply this stuff. Figured MC would be a
good place. What's Dave?L160[08:45:46] <Kodos> Dave
is a preprogrammed pseudo AI I used for checking various things
around my base
<Kodos> Dave
is a preprogrammed pseudo AI I used for checking various things
around my baseL161[08:45:55] <Kodos> Dave
stands for Data Analysis & visualization environment
<Kodos> Dave
stands for Data Analysis & visualization environmentL162[08:46:08] <Kodos> And
is a play, obviously, on the movie 2001 a space odyssey
<Kodos> And
is a play, obviously, on the movie 2001 a space odysseyL163[08:46:25] <Kodos>
Since the AI there was named HAL-9000 and the human was Dave
<Kodos>
Since the AI there was named HAL-9000 and the human was DaveL164[08:46:35] <Kodos> And
my Dave definitely will not try to kill you
<Kodos> And
my Dave definitely will not try to kill youL165[08:46:36] <Kodos>
Probably
<Kodos>
ProbablyL166[08:46:56] <Izaya> Not yet,
anyway
L167[08:47:06] <Kodos>
Basically it breaks down what I say in chat, so long as my sentence
starts with `Dave,`
<Kodos>
Basically it breaks down what I say in chat, so long as my sentence
starts with `Dave,`L168[08:47:14] <Kodos> If
it doesn't, it ignores me
<Kodos> If
it doesn't, it ignores meL169[08:47:24] <Kodos> It's
also coded to listen to me, since I have some important
controls
<Kodos> It's
also coded to listen to me, since I have some important
controlsL170[09:02:09] <Skye> Dave, I can't let
you do that.
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L179[12:31:39] <Forecaster>
%loot
<Forecaster>
%lootL180[12:31:40] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You
get a loot box! It contains a tiny packet of cream.
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L183[14:00:00] <Bob>
?
<Bob>
?L184[14:07:45] <Forecaster>
pancake to you too
<Forecaster>
pancake to you tooL185[14:31:14]
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L186[14:31:15] <Fira> yo
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L188[14:34:05] <Izaya> o7
L189[14:41:27] <Fira> i'm trying to get a
robot to work and was planning to connect to it with some kind of
remote shell, but i can't find one that works .__.
L190[14:41:59] <Fira> psh seems to rely on
some cprint function from a modified runtime, ssh i can find the
client but not the daemon
L191[14:42:50] <Fira> i'm trying to get
plan9k-ssh to work now, was running openos previously
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L197[15:33:08] <payonel> Fira: one day
i'll fix psh :) but if you want remote connections i would talk to
Izaya
L198[15:33:38] <Forecaster>
if you have a psh you probably have a leaky pipe somewhere
<Forecaster>
if you have a psh you probably have a leaky pipe somewhereL199[15:34:17] <payonel> if there is a
joke there i missed it
L200[15:39:08] <Forecaster>
the joke, if you can call it that, is that psh is an onomatopoeia
:P
<Forecaster>
the joke, if you can call it that, is that psh is an onomatopoeia
:PL201[15:48:52] <payonel> psh
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L207[16:13:40] <AmandaC> ? +2%
coverage!
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L217[16:59:15] <Michiyo> @Lizzy, you'll
need to change the ipv6 supermaster stuff for your PDNS
L218[17:00:08] <Michiyo> only the middle
changed old is 61:8d9 new is 60:9e85
L219[17:14:38] <ZefTheFox>
So I think that I can fix the aspect ratio by writing a program
that just kinda splits the characters in half and makes them take
up double the width
<ZefTheFox>
So I think that I can fix the aspect ratio by writing a program
that just kinda splits the characters in half and makes them take
up double the widthL220[17:15:20] <ZefTheFox>
Like this ▚ would become ▀▄
<ZefTheFox>
Like this ▚ would become ▀▄L221[17:16:24] <Lizzy> okay
L222[17:18:27] <Compu>
sounds lisaish
<Compu>
sounds lisaishL223[17:18:34] <Compu>
sounds lisa-ish [Edited]
<Compu>
sounds lisa-ish [Edited]L224[17:27:10] ⇦
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L227[17:44:10] <ZefTheFox>
crap
<ZefTheFox>
crapL228[17:44:35] <ZefTheFox>
I was so hoping that I could do this
<ZefTheFox>
I was so hoping that I could do thisL229[17:44:35] <ZefTheFox>
Code Block pastebined null
<ZefTheFox>
Code Block pastebined nullL231[17:45:11] <ZefTheFox>
but instead I got this in the event.log
<ZefTheFox>
but instead I got this in the event.logL232[17:46:04] <Forecaster>
well, don't yield across a c-call boundary!
<Forecaster>
well, don't yield across a c-call boundary!L233[17:46:15] <ZefTheFox>
I'm sorry!
<ZefTheFox>
I'm sorry!L234[17:46:30] <ZefTheFox>
The c-call boundary was just so tempting
<ZefTheFox>
The c-call boundary was just so temptingL235[17:53:34]
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L236[17:57:17] <ZefTheFox>
FUCK
<ZefTheFox>
FUCKL237[17:57:32] <ZefTheFox>
The image is so large io.read runs for too long without
yeilding
<ZefTheFox>
The image is so large io.read runs for too long without
yeildingL238[17:57:49] <Compu> put
io.read on it's own thread maybe?
<Compu> put
io.read on it's own thread maybe?L239[17:58:13] <ZefTheFox>
I need it to read a file and put it into memory
<ZefTheFox>
I need it to read a file and put it into memoryL240[17:58:36] <ZefTheFox>
And my program depends on that
<ZefTheFox>
And my program depends on thatL241[17:58:44] <Compu> yes
but i think putting it in it's own thread will fix the yeilding
thing, i think too long without yeilding only applies to the main
thread
<Compu> yes
but i think putting it in it's own thread will fix the yeilding
thing, i think too long without yeilding only applies to the main
threadL242[17:58:54] <ZefTheFox>
How would I do that?
<ZefTheFox>
How would I do that?L244[18:00:38] <Compu> it
should also let the program do other things while the image is
being loaded in, like showing a loading progress bar, for
instance
<Compu> it
should also let the program do other things while the image is
being loaded in, like showing a loading progress bar, for
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L246[18:04:06] <ZefTheFox>
interesting
<ZefTheFox>
interestingL247[18:04:59] <Lizzy> Michiyo, done
L249[18:07:03] <ZefTheFox>
It still runs too long
<ZefTheFox>
It still runs too longL250[18:07:58] <Compu>
oof
<Compu>
oofL251[18:08:00] ⇦
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L253[18:08:35] <Compu> is
there a way to only read parts of the file in at a time? that would
split up the loading so it doesn't take so long without
yeilding
<Compu> is
there a way to only read parts of the file in at a time? that would
split up the loading so it doesn't take so long without
yeildingL254[18:09:28] <ZefTheFox>
I probably could
<ZefTheFox>
I probably couldL255[18:09:31] <ZefTheFox>
let me see about that
<ZefTheFox>
let me see about thatL257[18:16:47] <ZefTheFox>
IT WORKED!!!
<ZefTheFox>
IT WORKED!!!L258[18:17:07] <ZefTheFox>
only doubled the filesize to 103kb
<ZefTheFox>
only doubled the filesize to 103kbL259[18:27:49] <Fira> o_o'
L260[18:28:47] <Fira> i tried to run
passwd on plan9k hoping to be able to use sshd
L261[18:28:52] <Fira> server stopped
ticking and timeout
L262[18:32:03] <Fira> twice in a row.
awkward
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L264[18:32:36] <payonel> Izaya: i didn't
work on haiku at all this weekend. sorry
L265[18:36:25] <Fira> well, i'm looking at
the crash report, looks like server hangs writing machine NBT.
anywhere useful i can send this ?
L266[18:37:06] <payonel> Fira: you got
your mc server to crash by running passwd in plan9k?
L267[18:37:12] <Fira> yes, twice
L268[18:37:27] <payonel> the physical
world's mc server...not the computer ingame?
L269[18:37:55] <Fira> This server =>
java.lang.Error: ServerHangWatchdog detected that a single server
tick took 120.00 seconds (should be max 0.05)
L270[18:37:55] <Fira> at
li.cil.oc.server.machine.Machine.save(Machine.scala:788)
L271[18:38:17] <payonel> and what version
of oc is this? (full version)
L272[18:38:21] <Fira> let me check
L273[18:40:00] <Fira> version 1.7.2.67
running on mc 1.12.2, forge 14.23.5.2770
L274[18:41:52] <payonel> Fira: go ahead
and make a github issue with this info and the stack trace from the
logs
L275[18:42:13] <Fira> alrighty
L276[18:42:25] <payonel> plan9k is
deprecated, frankly, but - are you new to OC?
L277[18:42:53] <payonel> plan9k, and
openos, are nothing better than any user script that you could
write yourself, they get no special treatment in the runtime of the
mod code
L278[18:43:12] <payonel> they are just
programs provided by loot disks you can craft, that's it
L279[18:43:18] <Fira> 99% new i guess
XD
L280[18:43:25] <Fira> yeah i figured
L281[18:43:44] <payonel> thus, there
shouldn't be anything plan9k or any program can do to cause a crash
like that
L282[18:43:51] <Fira> yup
L283[18:43:53] <payonel> so yeah, i need
to look at that
L284[18:44:20] <Fira> should i try
hard-resetting the IG computer to see if it goes away ? anything i
can backup beforehand to reproduce ?
L285[18:44:39] <payonel> well can you
trouble shoot a bit more with me now? i'm at work
L286[18:45:00] <payonel> does your machine
have a data card installed?
L287[18:45:03] <Fira> we can see that
another time i suppose if you're busy, i'll just leave this running
here
L288[18:45:05] <Fira> yessir
L289[18:45:17] <payonel> no i'm fine
chatting here in irc, just can't open mc :)
L290[18:45:31] <payonel> ok, on that
plan9k machine, can you open the lua shell?
L291[18:45:33] <payonel> repl
L292[18:45:49] <Fira> i tried to use your
psh initially but since i couldn't get it to work i falled back to
ssh with data cart :P
L293[18:45:50] <Fira> card*
L294[18:46:01] <payonel> yeah, i haven't
updated psh for over a year, it needs some love
L295[18:46:03] <payonel> it'll
happen
L296[18:46:17] <Fira> let me see, i should
be able to, but the comp' stuck on passwd prompt
L297[18:46:20] <payonel> i've just been
putting all of my time into oc bug fixing
L298[18:46:31] <payonel> hit the power
button, force it off
L299[18:46:34] <payonel> then power it
back up
L300[18:46:51] <Fira> yeah i figured - but
anything i can save before if the issue doesn't reproduce
post-reboot ?
L301[18:47:15] <payonel> no
L302[18:47:29] <Fira> aight aight
L303[18:47:32] <Fira> let's try then
L304[18:47:51] <payonel> holy crap, almost
forgot about a mtg
L305[18:47:55] <payonel> sorry, i'll be
back another time
L306[18:47:58] <Fira> sure, np
L307[18:48:29] <payonel> HAHA
L308[18:48:31] <payonel> nevermind
L309[18:48:33] <payonel> wow, small panic
attack there
L310[18:48:34] <payonel> that mtg is
tomorrow
L311[18:48:37] <payonel> sheesh
L312[18:48:38] <Fira> lol
L313[18:48:52] <Fira> since you were going
i rebooted it and tried to punch passwd again
L314[18:48:54] <Fira> crashed it :P
L315[18:49:03] <payonel> ok, i need to get
some caffeine after that, be back in 5
L316[18:49:13] <payonel> in the meantime,
reboot it all but dont run passw
L317[18:49:15] <payonel> passwd*
L318[18:49:17] <payonel> i'll be back
soon
L319[18:49:25] <Fira> i should go for
about 20-30 mins tbh
L320[18:49:35] <Fira> you got time
then?
L321[18:49:54] <Fira> i'll brb :|
sorry
L322[18:52:49] <payonel> Fira: yep, just
ping me when you've time to troubleshoot it a bit with me
L323[18:57:52] <Fira> sorry, @payonel,
sped this up, i'm back :P
L324[18:58:07] <payonel> ah, hello
again
L325[18:58:20] <Forecaster>
this has been a rollercoaster!
<Forecaster>
this has been a rollercoaster!L326[18:58:23] <payonel> ok, just run the
lua repl
L327[18:58:28] <Forecaster>
who will be kidnapped next
<Forecaster>
who will be kidnapped nextL328[18:58:39] *
payonel kidnaps forecaster
L329[18:58:53] <Fira> aight
L330[18:58:59] <Forecaster>
%ohno
<Forecaster>
%ohnoL331[18:59:00] <MichiBot> Forecaster:
ohno
L332[18:59:07] <Michiyo> I got half way to
work this morning and freaked out, cause I was an hour
late...
L333[18:59:14] *
Michiyo glares at DST
L334[18:59:24] <Michiyo> I wasn't, ofc..
but my car's clock was wrong
L335[19:00:03] <payonel> Fira: just run:
=component.data
L336[19:00:21] <payonel> just tell me if
crashes your mc server again :)
L337[19:00:30] <Fira> hmm
L338[19:00:55] <Fira> seems ot work
L339[19:01:06] <payonel> coo
L340[19:01:11] <payonel>
=component.data.sha256
L341[19:01:44] <Fira> yeah, nothing
special there either
L342[19:02:00] <payonel> when you ran
passwd, did it ask for your new password before crashing?
L343[19:02:11] <Fira> yep
L344[19:02:18] <payonel> ok sec
L345[19:02:20] <payonel> sorry
L346[19:02:30] <Fira> it basically freezes
after inputting the password a second time
L347[19:02:33] <payonel>
=component.data.random(16)
L348[19:02:34] <Fira> and a few seconds
later
L349[19:02:35] <payonel> what's that
do?
L350[19:02:39] <Fira> the whole world
stops ticking
L351[19:02:47] <Fira> lemme check
L352[19:02:55] <Inari> Can you miss a
trader if no trader exists when you don't notice?
L353[19:03:13] <Forecaster>
depends, what caliber are we talking?
<Forecaster>
depends, what caliber are we talking?L354[19:03:50] <Fira> that seems to crash
indeed :P
L355[19:03:54] <payonel> nice
L356[19:04:04] <Michiyo> @Forecaster
105mm
L357[19:04:08] <payonel> ok...want to try
one tiny thing more? :)
L358[19:04:34] <Fira> why not
L359[19:04:42] <payonel> this is all sp,
right?
L360[19:04:45] <Fira> nope :p
L361[19:04:47] <Fira> smp
L362[19:04:51] <payonel> ok, can you test
in sp?
L363[19:04:54] <Fira> sure
L364[19:04:56] <payonel> make a new
creative flat world
L365[19:05:27] <Fira> lemme do that
L366[19:05:59] <payonel> Michiyo: i wish i
felt 1hr more rested :(
L367[19:06:28] <Michiyo> right?!
L368[19:06:38] <Fira> fine by me, friends
came back and went "aaaah" when it went down :P
L369[19:07:13] <ZefTheFox>
maybe trying to make my shell it's own os is a bad idea
<ZefTheFox>
maybe trying to make my shell it's own os is a bad ideaL370[19:07:32] <Forecaster>
tfw this version of PuTTY only has auto-username but not
auto-password :|
<Forecaster>
tfw this version of PuTTY only has auto-username but not
auto-password :|L371[19:07:56] <Michiyo> KiTTY ftw.
:P
L372[19:08:27] <Inari> Michiyo:
Sidestepping the obvious lewd Is ee
L373[19:08:44] <Forecaster>
yeah, that's what I have at work, but not at home for some
reason... I don't use it a lot here
<Forecaster>
yeah, that's what I have at work, but not at home for some
reason... I don't use it a lot hereL374[19:08:59] <Forecaster>
but I just now discovered that this doesn't have
auto-password
<Forecaster>
but I just now discovered that this doesn't have
auto-passwordL375[19:09:02]
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L376[19:09:32] <Michiyo> Inari, erm...
Yep, totally did.. that.
L377[19:10:10] *
Lizzy just uses Cygwin on windows
L378[19:10:34] <Forecaster>
oh yeah, I have cygwin...
<Forecaster>
oh yeah, I have cygwin...L379[19:10:37] <Forecaster>
._.
<Forecaster>
._.L380[19:10:43] <Lizzy> or the ubuntu WSL
when i'm at work, but that's only for network switches that just
don't like newer stuff
L381[19:10:59] <Forecaster>
wait, does cygwin do ssh?
<Forecaster>
wait, does cygwin do ssh?L382[19:11:02] <Lizzy> yes
L383[19:11:08] <Lizzy> it does a lot of
things
L384[19:11:11] <Forecaster>
I didn't even know that
<Forecaster>
I didn't even know thatL385[19:11:21] <Forecaster>
I've gone into the ubuntu shell to do that
<Forecaster>
I've gone into the ubuntu shell to do thatL386[19:11:24] <Lizzy> you just need to
tell it what packages you want when you install it
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L388[19:11:34] <Fira> gimme a mo' to setup
my comp' in the sp world
L389[19:11:41] <payonel> Fira:
L390[19:11:45] <payonel> just run
/oc_sc
L391[19:11:50] <payonel> looking at a
block on the gorund
L392[19:11:52] <payonel> ground*
L393[19:11:56] <Forecaster>
can it store connections though...
<Forecaster>
can it store connections though...L394[19:12:02] <Inari> Michiyo: xP
L395[19:12:06] <Lizzy> store
connections?
L396[19:12:11] <payonel> @forecaster you
mean run sshd?
L397[19:12:24] <Forecaster>
like putty/kitty does, store connection profiles
<Forecaster>
like putty/kitty does, store connection profilesL398[19:12:32] <Lizzy> it has
openssh
L399[19:12:41] <Lizzy> so stuff like
.ssh/config work
L401[19:12:58] <Forecaster>
like that
<Forecaster>
like thatL402[19:13:15] <Lizzy> https://man.openbsd.org/ssh_config
L403[19:13:15] <payonel> @forecaster it's
traditional ssh
L404[19:13:25] <payonel> not a gui, the
command line ssh tool
L405[19:13:27] <Forecaster>
I don't know how ssh/config works, I've not extensively used ssh on
linux :P
<Forecaster>
I don't know how ssh/config works, I've not extensively used ssh on
linux :PL406[19:13:35] <Lizzy> see above
link
L407[19:13:39] <Forecaster>
payonel I know...
<Forecaster>
payonel I know...L408[19:13:49] <payonel> ok cool
L409[19:13:54] *
payonel wobbles away
L410[19:14:19] <Fira> oh woops :p
L411[19:14:20] <Fira> sec
L412[19:16:37] <Fira> well
L413[19:17:01] <Fira> replicated the same
setup components wise, but nothing special happens when i run
component.data.random(16)
L414[19:17:16] <payonel> with plan9k or
openos?
L415[19:17:33] <payonel> shouldn't matter,
but technically it is possible plan9k is doing extra stuff
L416[19:17:35] <Fira> plan9k
L417[19:17:40] <payonel> so it just
works?
L418[19:17:42] <Fira> yeah
L419[19:17:44] <Fira> hmm
L420[19:17:45] <payonel> sigh
L421[19:17:57] <payonel> what is your
server host os?
L422[19:18:08] <payonel> are you using lua
natives?
L423[19:18:09] <Fira> don't think this
changes much but Server is running some nix variant, client is
Win$
L424[19:18:26] <payonel> which
linux?
L425[19:18:35] <Fira> good question. i
left most (all?) settings at default in OC
L426[19:18:45] <payonel> then yes,
natives
L427[19:19:00] <Fira> i wish i knew. this
is a stupid gaming server host. i could try replicating it
somewhere else to run it myself for the test
L428[19:19:34] <payonel> how are your
clients setting up the mod pack? custom with mmc? ftb? other?
L429[19:19:35] <Fira> probably got some
box i can use somewhere for that
L430[19:20:03] <Forecaster>
hm, config doesn't do passwords apparently
<Forecaster>
hm, config doesn't do passwords apparentlyL431[19:20:28] <Fira> well i should
migrate the modpack to something a bit better, right now we're just
using twitch launcher tbh XD
L432[19:21:12] <payonel> Fira: could you
zip up your server dir and send it to me?
L433[19:21:23] <payonel> i can create a
cloud dir for you to upload it to
L434[19:21:58] <Fira> whole server, mods
& stuff included ?
L435[19:22:16] <payonel> yes please
L436[19:22:30] <Fira> lemme see
L437[19:24:14] <Fira> will take a bit
since this stupid host only has legacy FTP
L438[19:24:20] <Fira> but yeah i guess i
can up that somewhere
L439[19:24:23] <Fira> where do you want it
?
L440[19:24:51] <payonel> i dont have ftp,
only webdav or through browser
L441[19:24:56] <payonel> http put
L442[19:25:00] <payonel> i'll pm you the
details
L443[19:26:24] <payonel> Fira: i do
appreciate it. having the repro for issues like this makes it
possible for me to even fix this sort of thing :)
L444[19:26:59] <payonel> do you have
client setup instructions, too?
L445[19:27:18] <payonel> twitch launcher,
but what mod pack? custom?
L446[19:27:18] <Michiyo> inb4 native
bug
L447[19:27:23] <Fira> it's custom
yeah
L448[19:27:36] <payonel> Michiyo: :(
L449[19:27:41] <Fira> but i figure you
could just take a mc instance and throw mods/config into it and
it'd work
L450[19:27:52] <Fira> or in this case, not
work :p
L451[19:28:02] <payonel> Fira: i'm hoping
so. anything different in the mods/ between server/client? or can i
just copy those
L452[19:29:44] <Fira> nope, we used to
have minor diffs but i just threw everything on both for the sake
of consistency
L453[19:33:23] <payonel> Fira: ok try the
owncloud service again
L454[19:33:26] <payonel> should be updated
now
L455[19:34:11] <Fira> aight sec
L456[19:36:04] <payonel> it would be cool
if owncloud could create ftp aliases
L457[19:38:21] <Fira> uploading the whole
shebang, it's 1.5GB with the world files though
L458[19:38:28] <Fira> will take a dozen
mins or so
L459[19:38:39] <payonel> no problem
L460[19:48:45] <payonel> fira: zip upload
appears finished? sha1sum
d045b7f79675c6ea6102454f4912a00c653a769b
L461[19:49:01] <payonel> 1597647475
bytes
L462[19:49:19] <Fira> size sounds good, i
need to check sum
L463[19:49:20] <Fira> i guess
L464[19:49:40] <payonel> i'm always on
linux, so it is natural for me to check that
L465[19:50:21] <Fira> hash is
correct
L466[19:50:31] <Fira> thank god for
powershell, had no idea how i was gonna check that on w$
L467[19:50:41] <payonel> hehe
L468[19:53:10] <payonel> this doesn't have
a forge*-universal.jar
L469[19:53:13] <payonel> how do you run
it?
L470[19:53:54] <Michiyo> payonel, what is
there jar wise?
L471[19:54:39] <Fira> oh
L472[19:54:40] <payonel> only 2, the lua
natives and minecraft_server.1.12.2.jar
L473[19:54:56] <Fira> yeah the forge jar
is missing since it's handled by server provider -cough-
L474[19:54:59] <Fira> i really need to
migrate this
L475[19:55:09] <Michiyo> yeah, that was
what I was guessing lol
L476[19:55:19] <Fira> but afaik they use
14.23.5.2770
L477[19:55:59] <Forecaster>
my modpack system doesn't handle mc/forge jars
<Forecaster>
my modpack system doesn't handle mc/forge jarsL478[19:56:03] <Forecaster>
should that be a thing...
<Forecaster>
should that be a thing...L479[19:56:26] <payonel> fira: confirmed
14.23.5.2770 in the logs
L480[19:56:28] <Forecaster>
actually it could
<Forecaster>
actually it couldL481[19:56:35] <Fira> we use 14.23.5.2772
on client side though technically
L482[19:56:36] <Forecaster>
nevermind, I think it already does that
<Forecaster>
nevermind, I think it already does thatL483[19:57:13] <Fira> should work just as
well with 2770 though i suppose...
L484[19:57:54] <Fira> sorry it's bit of a
mess, only my second attempt at a "live" mc install,
there's still lots of things i need to work on :-(
L485[19:58:23] <payonel> no worries,
thanks for sharing the files to help us fix this
L486[20:01:36] <Fira> if you see netty
errors in the logs, it seems to be another mod's bug we've
encountered today (first real problems in weeks, not the best day
:D)
L487[20:02:21] <Fira> for some reason one
of the player used RFTool charged porter to get out of The End,
three times, every time he got dced and netty went haywire
L488[20:02:46] <Fira> no clue
how/why
L489[20:03:03] <payonel> Fira: do you have
your client running?
L490[20:03:05] <Fira> hopefully
unrelated
L491[20:03:07] <Fira> yeah
L492[20:08:18] <payonel> Michiyo: no repro
on my server
L493[20:08:21] <payonel> same world, same
user :)
L494[20:09:31] <Michiyo> nice.. could
still be natives though :P
L495[20:09:45] <payonel> lua
natives?
L496[20:09:46] <Fira> well rip
L497[20:09:47] <payonel> same
natives
L498[20:09:56] <Michiyo> could also be a
JVM issue.. always fun not having full control over the platform
:P
L499[20:10:03] <payonel> yep
L500[20:10:07] <payonel> i'm running
icedtea, btw
L501[20:10:10] <Fira> yeah i guess, only
thing i can see differing
L502[20:10:18] <Fira> i have no clue what
java runtime they actually use. it should be somewhere in
logs
L503[20:10:22] <Michiyo> well, the same
natives are there.. but which ones is it using? "some
*nix" doesn't' say 32,64, bsd..
L504[20:10:23] <Michiyo> lol
L505[20:10:46] <Fira> yeah i really need
to move this to a proper box :P
L506[20:10:47] <Michiyo> hell, it could be
failing to load the natives, and fall back
L507[20:11:05] <Michiyo> I mean.. it'd be
obvious if that was the case, but still lol
L508[20:11:48] <Fira> i'm running server
on a game server provider atm because it's kind of a pain getting a
dedicated server with decent single-core perf
L509[20:12:15] <Fira> but considering they
still cohost and randomly shut down the server when it uses too
much cpu to make up for it *COUGH*
L510[20:12:24] <Fira> i'm really gonna
migrate this away eventually
L511[20:12:36] <payonel> Michiyo: logs are
filled with mention of successfully loading the same 64bit lua
natives
L512[20:13:10] <Michiyo> k, well atleast
theres that
L513[20:13:30] <payonel> Fira: you're
welcome to run off my server for as long as you like :)
L514[20:13:33] <payonel> Intel(R) Core(TM)
i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz
L515[20:14:01] <payonel> 1 world max,
though :)
L516[20:14:10] <Fira> ah thanks, dw
:p
L517[20:16:32] <payonel> Fira: a
thought
L518[20:16:41] <payonel> how is the
/dev/random and /dev/urandom set up on that host?
L519[20:17:16] <Fira> yeah i thought about
that. sadly i have no clue. would need to check :-|
L520[20:17:44] <Fira> hey
L521[20:17:45] <payonel> if that host is
oddly using a /dev/urandom link to /dev/random, perhaps for silly
beliefs in security
L522[20:17:50] <Fira> yeah
L523[20:17:51] <payonel> then it could
block when it is low on entropy
L524[20:17:51] <Fira> it could block
L525[20:17:59] <Fira> could be just
that
L526[20:18:01] <Fira> hmmmmmmmmm
L527[20:18:01] <payonel> and yes, that
might cause data.random() to block
L528[20:18:40] <Fira> any way to get stuff
done from oc on host side so i can check that per chance ?
L529[20:18:44] <Fira> just ls it :p
L530[20:19:16] <payonel> are you asking if
you can check the hosts /dev/[u]random in-game? no
L531[20:19:29] <Fira> otherwise i guess i
can quickly look into making a boilerplate mod to output that
L532[20:19:53] <payonel> you have ssh
access, no?
L533[20:20:00] <Fira> i wish...
L534[20:20:09] <Fira> another reason i
want to get off that provider
L535[20:20:09] <Fira> cough
L536[20:20:11] <payonel> ah, how did you
zip and send? admin help?
L537[20:20:21] <Fira> i zipped it locally
getting it from ftp
L538[20:20:30] <payonel> oh you have ftp
to the drop dir
L539[20:20:43] <Fira> yeah
L540[20:21:43] <Fira> anyway let me check,
it could just be that indeed
L541[20:27:59] <Fira> ugh. could probably
execute stuff with the plugin system but it's a vanilla
server
L542[20:28:12] <Fira> i'll just shoot a
message to their support to ask i suppose, who knows...
L543[20:28:53] <payonel> i wonder if
they're running selinux
L544[20:29:02] <payonel> i dont know much
about selinux, but basically...it breaks everything
L545[20:29:03] <payonel> :)
L546[20:29:16] <payonel> selinux could be
the reason we can't read from /dev/urandom
L547[20:29:50] <Fira> yeah i get the gist
of it, tiny wrong rules cause huge messes with selinux
L548[20:30:15] <payonel> we're using
java.security.SecureRandom.getInstance("SHA1PRNG") on
that data card
L549[20:30:41] <Fira> tried running it on
gentoo-hardened and i had to run without it actually enabled
because even with the distributed distro rules it was blocking so
much stuff it didn't manage to run properly :p
L550[20:31:00] <Fira> think selinux
managed to even prevent init from doing part of its job UGH
L551[20:32:25] <Fira> anyway i'll fish for
info and just migrate away i guess, probably just coming from
/dev/{u,}random indeed
L552[20:33:03] <payonel> but .. it might
be worth me changing that code to use
SecureRandom.getInstance("NativePRNGNonBlocking");
L553[20:33:45] <payonel> i think i'll do
that and test it out a bit
L554[21:02:58] <Izaya> Fira: I'm like 8
hours late but mangling telnet into PsychOSv2 shouldn't be too
hard
L555[21:04:01] <Izaya> https://git.shadowkat.net/izaya/OC-PsychOS2
L556[21:05:12] <Izaya> That said there are
presently other issues with it and I won't have time to work on it
for a month or so
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(Overwatch))
L559[22:25:28] <ZefTheFox>
God the offline version of twitch is awful
<ZefTheFox>
God the offline version of twitch is awfulL560[22:33:04] <20kdc>
"Could not verify Minecraft version."?
<20kdc>
"Could not verify Minecraft version."?L561[22:59:09] <dequbed> payonel: Do you
have a container setup on your linux to run a test? Preferably
OpenVZ? That might just be the underlying issue with randomness,
OpenVZ has had a few problems with that.
L562[22:59:51] <dequbed> And I can very
much see some random MC-Server hoster using (application)
containers, especially OpenVZ.
L563[23:07:50] <Mimiru> OpenVZ has a few
problems with everything.
L564[23:08:33] <dequbed> %s/few/a good
many/
L565[23:18:30] <Michiyo> you don't need
the % for sed if you're on IRC.. though it *should* work.. :/
L566[23:18:34] <Michiyo> test
L567[23:18:39] <Michiyo>
s/test/merp/
L568[23:18:39] <MichiBot> <Michiyo>
merp
L569[23:18:52] <Michiyo>
%s/merp/moop/
L570[23:18:52] <MichiBot> <Michiyo>
moop
L571[23:19:08] <Michiyo> %s/a few/a good
many/
L572[23:19:08] <MichiBot> <Mimiru>
OpenVZ has a good many problems with everything.
L573[23:19:12] *
Michiyo shrugs
L574[23:19:39] <Lizzy> s/a good
many//
L575[23:19:39] <MichiBot> <Mimiru>
OpenVZ has problems with everything.
L576[23:20:20] <ZefTheFox>
So my image program
<ZefTheFox>
So my image programL577[23:20:26] <ZefTheFox>
Is corrupting the images
<ZefTheFox>
Is corrupting the imagesL578[23:26:12] <Kleadron> i
want to see
<Kleadron> i
want to seeL580[23:35:03] <ZefTheFox>
Well first up this happens
<ZefTheFox>
Well first up this happensL581[23:35:08] <ZefTheFox>
But it's unpredictable
<ZefTheFox>
But it's unpredictableL583[23:35:51] <ZefTheFox>
And then random question marks
<ZefTheFox>
And then random question marksL584[23:35:55] <EcmaXp
(SkyBox)> ?
<EcmaXp
(SkyBox)> ?L585[23:36:20] <ZefTheFox>
Thanks
<ZefTheFox>
ThanksL586[23:37:48] <ZefTheFox>
I think
<ZefTheFox>
I thinkL587[23:37:59] <ZefTheFox>
It's because I'm using too much storage
<ZefTheFox>
It's because I'm using too much storageL588[23:41:13] <ZefTheFox>
I copied the files to a 9mb raid
<ZefTheFox>
I copied the files to a 9mb raidL589[23:41:17] <ZefTheFox>
And it's still happening
<ZefTheFox>
And it's still happeningL590[23:56:11] <Mimiru> I have 3 different
remote control programs connected to my home PC... one showing each
monitor
L591[23:56:19] <Mimiru> so I can write up
a pros/cons against all 3 of them.