L1[00:19:16] <CompanionCube> so what do
y'all think of rhel deprecating KDE
L2[00:20:16] <Izaya> meh
L3[00:20:34] <Izaya> most other major
distros support KDE
L4[00:21:26] <CompanionCube> sucks for those
who dislike GNOME though
L5[00:22:15] <Izaya> the question is
L6[00:22:19] <Izaya> what will CentOS
do
L7[00:22:29] <CompanionCube> and
fedora
L8[00:22:36] <Izaya> that too
L9[00:22:47] <CompanionCube> iirc both use
the rhel kde unmodified
L10[00:23:03] <Izaya> 50/50 they package it
themselves or they stop supporting it, I guess
L11[00:23:49] <CompanionCube> at least ibm
can't be blamed
L12[00:24:04] <CompanionCube> so jury's
still out on them being good or nor
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L21[01:06:03] <MichiBot> Izaya REMINDER:
tonk
L22[01:06:11] <Izaya> %tonk
L23[01:06:12] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Izaya,
you were not able to beat asie's record of 3 weeks, 6 days, 15
hours, 4 minutes and 38 seconds this time.
L24[01:06:13] <MichiBot> 4 days, 11 hours,
13 minutes and 3 seconds were wasted!
L25[01:06:18] <Izaya> %remindme 3w
tonk
L26[01:06:18] <MichiBot> I'll remind you
about "tonk" at 11/24/2018 12:06:18 AM
L27[01:09:02] <CompanionCube> %remindme 27d
tonk
L28[01:09:03] <MichiBot> I'll remind you
about "tonk" at 11/30/2018 12:09:02 AM
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L36[02:14:24] <xyore> Hello.
L37[02:14:33] 
<Forecaster>
%hello
<Forecaster>
%helloL38[02:14:34] <MichiBot> Forecaster: Hello!
Welcome to #oc! The one and only opencomputers channel! Please ask
your questions directly (dont ask to ask) and provide error/code
examples! (Use pastebin.com if theyre more than one line!) Dont
mind the random conversation you might have walked into.
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L40[02:43:46] <Kleadron>
if you read this message bill gates will sleep in your bed
<Kleadron>
if you read this message bill gates will sleep in your bedL41[02:56:38] <Forecaster>
If you read any message nothing happens
<Forecaster>
If you read any message nothing happensL42[04:16:02] ⇦
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L48[07:01:14] <AmandaC> Inari:
eldrichhorrorofunspeakablepowersayswhat?
L49[07:01:25] <Inari> What?
L50[07:01:35] <MGR>
?
<MGR>
?L51[07:01:43] <AmandaC> Ah-ha!
L52[07:02:07] *
AmandaC cuddles Inari to trap her until the cleanup crew can
arrive
L53[07:06:08] *
Izaya sighs, calls the laundry
L54[07:06:31] <Forecaster>
%inv add lump of laundry
<Forecaster>
%inv add lump of laundryL55[07:06:32] *
MichiBot summons 'lump of laundry' and adds to her inventory. I
could get some good swings in with this.
L56[07:10:04] <Lizzy> %inv add swing
L57[07:10:05] *
MichiBot summons 'swing' and adds to her inventory. This seems very
sturdy.
L58[07:15:18] <Forecaster>
%inv add electro swing
<Forecaster>
%inv add electro swingL59[07:15:18] *
MichiBot summons 'electro swing' and adds to her inventory. This
seems very sturdy.
L60[07:41:41] <Inari 『 おにいでれ
』> @MGR What?
<Inari 『 おにいでれ
』> @MGR What?L61[07:41:46] <Inari 『 おにいでれ
』> * @MGR
<Inari 『 おにいでれ
』> * @MGRL62[07:42:04] <MGR>
Amanda's statement made me facepalm
<MGR>
Amanda's statement made me facepalmL63[07:42:18] <MGR> And I
can't tell whether you said What on purpose or because you didn't
read it
<MGR> And I
can't tell whether you said What on purpose or because you didn't
read itL64[07:42:26] <MGR>
Probably the former I hope
<MGR>
Probably the former I hopeL65[07:43:28] <AmandaC> @mgr what do you
mean? It's a tried and true method!
L66[07:43:41] <MGR>
?
<MGR>
?L67[07:44:32] ⇦
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L69[07:45:04] <Inari> @MGR The former, I
guess, but only half
L70[07:45:14] <Inari> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/309529094452936705/508255060157792257/45393176_2260715274158041_5231618758958645248_n.png
L71[07:45:50] <Skye> Inari
is an eldrich horror of unspeakable powers?
<Skye> Inari
is an eldrich horror of unspeakable powers?L72[07:46:01] <AmandaC> Apparently!
L73[07:46:02] <MGR> Is
that Netscape Navigator?
<MGR> Is
that Netscape Navigator?L74[07:46:09] <AmandaC> That's why I have
her trapped
L75[07:46:11] <Forecaster>
unspeakable lewd powers perhaps
<Forecaster>
unspeakable lewd powers perhapsL76[07:46:22] <Skye>
Inari, that comic is inaccurate, netscape became sea Monkey and
Firefox
<Skye>
Inari, that comic is inaccurate, netscape became sea Monkey and
FirefoxL77[07:46:28] <Inari> @MGR I think so
L78[07:47:05] <AmandaC> Yes that's Netscape
navigator's logo on her neck piece
L79[07:47:58] <MGR>
Neither Sea Monkey nor Firefox are in anything resembling a
dominant market position
<MGR>
Neither Sea Monkey nor Firefox are in anything resembling a
dominant market positionL80[07:48:08] <MGR> And
Navigator still technically died, so it counts
<MGR> And
Navigator still technically died, so it countsL81[07:48:28] <MGR> IE
will never die due to legacy software
<MGR> IE
will never die due to legacy softwareL82[07:49:02] <Forecaster>
I had to re-do some javascript in a thing I'd made at work because
the company we made it for uses IE as the default...
<Forecaster>
I had to re-do some javascript in a thing I'd made at work because
the company we made it for uses IE as the default...L84[07:50:28] <Inari> Firefox is the best
browser though
L85[07:50:41] <Forecaster>
specifically I'd used selectedOptions[0] on a dropdown, which IE
doesn't support...
<Forecaster>
specifically I'd used selectedOptions[0] on a dropdown, which IE
doesn't support...L86[07:51:12] <Forecaster>
I had to change it to use
`dropdown.children[dropdown.selectedIndex]` instead
<Forecaster>
I had to change it to use
`dropdown.children[dropdown.selectedIndex]` insteadL87[07:52:17] <Forecaster>
vs `dropdown.selectedOptions[0]` for the same result
<Forecaster>
vs `dropdown.selectedOptions[0]` for the same resultL88[07:52:38] <Skye> @MGR
actually... Seamonkey still is the netscape codebase.
<Skye> @MGR
actually... Seamonkey still is the netscape codebase.L89[07:53:33] <MGR> But,
considering that it's used by very few, I'd consider it effectively
dead
<MGR> But,
considering that it's used by very few, I'd consider it effectively
deadL90[07:53:41] <Skye> And
it's still being developed
<Skye> And
it's still being developedL91[07:54:33] <Forecaster>
I'd call Netscape dead because you rarely hear the name anymore,
and never in the context of someone actually using it
<Forecaster>
I'd call Netscape dead because you rarely hear the name anymore,
and never in the context of someone actually using itL92[07:55:09] <MGR>
^
<MGR>
^L94[08:00:48] <Corded> * <Forecaster>
(Y) Takes out flamethrower
L95[08:05:02] <Temia> %inv add the power of
fluffy boys
L96[08:05:02] *
MichiBot summons 'the power of fluffy boys' and adds to her
inventory. This seems rather fragile...
L97[08:05:51] <Forecaster>
bah, I hate the echo in my recordings...
<Forecaster>
bah, I hate the echo in my recordings...L98[08:05:53] <Forecaster>
>:
<Forecaster>
>:L99[08:06:31] <Forecaster>
I need some sound-dampening screens
<Forecaster>
I need some sound-dampening screensL100[08:18:39] <Compu>
@Forecaster https://www.amazon.com/12-Acoustic-Panels-Studio-Wedges/dp/B00TP7C9YY/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1541251107&sr=8-4&keywords=sound+dampening+foam
<Compu>
@Forecaster https://www.amazon.com/12-Acoustic-Panels-Studio-Wedges/dp/B00TP7C9YY/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1541251107&sr=8-4&keywords=sound+dampening+foamL101[08:19:10] <Forecaster>
I need a free-standing wall though
<Forecaster>
I need a free-standing wall thoughL102[08:19:23] <Forecaster>
my bedroom is too large, the sound bounces around too much
<Forecaster>
my bedroom is too large, the sound bounces around too muchL103[08:19:36] <Forecaster>
I basically need to make it smaller with something that'll absorb
the sound
<Forecaster>
I basically need to make it smaller with something that'll absorb
the soundL104[08:20:40] <Compu> a
partition would work but judging by prices it seems it would be
cheaper to cover ur room in sound dampening foam
<Compu> a
partition would work but judging by prices it seems it would be
cheaper to cover ur room in sound dampening foamL105[08:47:02] <Forecaster>
yeah, but partitions are easier to deal with, putting up panels
would be a lot of work
<Forecaster>
yeah, but partitions are easier to deal with, putting up panels
would be a lot of workL106[08:57:32] <ZefTheFox>
awwe poor foxxo
<ZefTheFox>
awwe poor foxxoL107[09:08:15] *
Lizzy forgot how slow the Pi1B is
L108[09:09:54] <Temia> tbh covering my
room in hexagons sounds like a good time
L109[09:10:05] <Temia> Especially if I
added strip LED lighting in the margins
L110[09:10:15] *
Inari covers Temia in hexagons
L111[09:10:16] <Forecaster>
there hare hexagonal panels? :O
<Forecaster>
there hare hexagonal panels? :OL112[09:10:29] <Forecaster>
the question is are those more expensive...
<Forecaster>
the question is are those more expensive...L113[09:10:46] <Temia> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01L2ZKR7W/
L114[09:11:28] <Forecaster>
oo nice
<Forecaster>
oo niceL115[09:31:44] <ZefTheFox>
I'm currently converting a version of my pfp to be able to be drawn
in oc
<ZefTheFox>
I'm currently converting a version of my pfp to be able to be drawn
in ocL116[09:32:01] <ZefTheFox>
using code page 437
<ZefTheFox>
using code page 437L117[09:38:32] <AmandaC> Pfp?
L118[09:40:20] <ZefTheFox>
Profile picture, mine is this
<ZefTheFox>
Profile picture, mine is thisL120[09:40:44] <ZefTheFox>
I'm converting it without that background
<ZefTheFox>
I'm converting it without that backgroundL121[09:41:02] <AmandaC> I see
L122[09:42:02] <ZefTheFox>
Using the code page I should be able to get 2 pixels per screen
location
<ZefTheFox>
Using the code page I should be able to get 2 pixels per screen
locationL123[09:42:05] <ZefTheFox>
2 colors
<ZefTheFox>
2 colorsL124[09:45:14]
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L126[09:46:29] <AmandaC> With oc you can
use the braille Unicode points to get more
L127[09:47:12] <AmandaC> 2x either 6 or 8
I forget
L128[09:48:23] <ZefTheFox>
oh wow
<ZefTheFox>
oh wowL129[09:48:28] <ZefTheFox>
that's too much for me
<ZefTheFox>
that's too much for meL130[09:49:28] <AmandaC> It's how asie'e
image displays work
L131[09:49:48] <ZefTheFox>
I'm not even halfway done with **getting the image ready** let
alone actually turning it into blocks
<ZefTheFox>
I'm not even halfway done with **getting the image ready** let
alone actually turning it into blocksL132[09:49:48] <AmandaC> And how bmpview
in kitten is works
L133[09:50:02] <AmandaC> Os*
L135[09:50:22] <ZefTheFox>
I'm going by 2x2 pixel squares and manually checking each one
<ZefTheFox>
I'm going by 2x2 pixel squares and manually checking each oneL136[09:56:13] <Lizzy> amazing, i've made
apt-based stuff even slower
L137[09:58:28] <ZefTheFox>
The way I've done images before is by using a big table
<ZefTheFox>
The way I've done images before is by using a big tableL138[10:00:32] <ZefTheFox>
Just passed the halfway mark
<ZefTheFox>
Just passed the halfway markL139[10:00:54] <AmandaC> Lizzy: what'd you
do?
L140[10:01:07] <Lizzy> connected it to the
internet via serial
L141[10:01:15] <AmandaC> Heh
L142[10:04:13] <Inari> Lizzy: At least not
redstone
L143[10:05:56] <AmandaC> Internet over
serial connecting to a mc server and using a redstone internet
connection as a proxy.
L144[10:08:56] <ZefTheFox>
No, that's too fast
<ZefTheFox>
No, that's too fastL145[10:08:59] <ZefTheFox>
use pistons
<ZefTheFox>
use pistonsL147[10:20:00] <ZefTheFox>
it's actually pretty nic
<ZefTheFox>
it's actually pretty nicL148[10:20:02] <ZefTheFox>
it's actually pretty nice [Edited]
<ZefTheFox>
it's actually pretty nice [Edited]L149[10:23:59] <ZefTheFox>
So one of the computers in my world is bugged, it has multiple
copies of the same disk mounted along with a floppy disk that
doesn't exist anymore
<ZefTheFox>
So one of the computers in my world is bugged, it has multiple
copies of the same disk mounted along with a floppy disk that
doesn't exist anymoreL150[10:24:07] <ZefTheFox>
would deleting the state folder fix that?
<ZefTheFox>
would deleting the state folder fix that?L151[10:30:21] <Lizzy> woo, slightly
faster now at 460800 up from 115200 baud. can't seem to go any
faster than that. suspect the long serial cable i have to be the
issue
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L153[10:39:04] <Lizzy> okay, tried with a
shorter cable, still couldn't reliably manage 921600 baud
L154[10:40:04] <Lizzy> think i'd need a
female-female block connector to get higher speeds or connect
directly to the Pi's UART pins rather than using a serial HAT
L155[10:40:17] <Lizzy> hmm, do i have a
cable for that...
L156[10:41:19] <Lizzy> i do
L158[10:48:25] <Lizzy> woohoo, reached
921600 baud when not going through the converter
L159[10:49:34] <Lizzy> omg that's much
better
L160[10:50:25] <Lizzy> up to 1000000
now
L161[10:52:21] <Lizzy> Download: 0.73
Mbits/s Upload: 4.04 Mbits/s
L162[10:52:22] <Lizzy> hmm
L163[10:52:25] <Lizzy> pretty decent
L164[10:52:33] <Lizzy> idk why the upload
is higher than download
L165[10:52:49] <Lizzy> lets go
faster
L166[10:55:08] <Skye> Lizzy: dear
god
L167[10:55:42] <Lizzy> i think 1500000 is
just pushing it...
L168[10:56:43] <Lizzy> yeah, download got
0.22Mbit/s that time
L169[10:56:51] <Z0idburg>
oh wth fallout
<Z0idburg>
oh wth falloutL170[10:57:01] <Lizzy> and pppd had a lot
of reset errors
L171[10:57:19] <Z0idburg>
the game is only letting me place the front door of this house in
the incorrect direction
<Z0idburg>
the game is only letting me place the front door of this house in
the incorrect directionL172[10:57:53] <Z0idburg>
it wants it to swing out but it should be swinging in
<Z0idburg>
it wants it to swing out but it should be swinging inL173[10:59:04] <Lizzy> hmm, i wonder if i
can make some "grounding" wires loop around the
transmission lines to see if i can lower interferrence
L174[11:07:23] <Lizzy> okay, that didn't
help much
L176[11:10:36] <AmandaC> Sophia: that
probably means your walls are inside out, unless the door is a
magic game game that always swings the other way
L177[11:11:08] <Lizzy> who is
sophia?
L178[11:11:15] <Lizzy> oh wait nvm
L179[11:11:25] <Temia> I wonder if the
slew rate is too low for that speed
L180[11:11:58] <AmandaC> S3 aka the
discord user who I refuse to try typing on mobile
L181[11:12:08] <Lizzy> ah
L182[11:12:31] *
Lizzy goes to find another hdmi cable so she can try a pi-pi serial
test which can have much shorter cable runs
L183[11:12:49] <AmandaC> His original Nick
was Sophia3 then I bullied him to much and he changed it to
s3
L184[11:13:11] <AmandaC> (Sophia after a
ww2 era tank (
L185[11:15:54] <AmandaC> Or was it just
Sofia...
L186[11:15:56] <AmandaC> Oh well
L187[11:17:04] *
AmandaC boops inari, demands something to do while she's traveling
home
L189[11:18:35] <ZefTheFox>
Image drawing program
<ZefTheFox>
Image drawing programL190[11:18:38] <ZefTheFox>
that's very slow
<ZefTheFox>
that's very slowL191[11:22:16] <Z0idburg>
Why is it so slow?
<Z0idburg>
Why is it so slow?L192[11:22:45] <AmandaC> Not enough faire
magic
L193[11:24:14] <ZefTheFox>
It redraws the entire screen with every click
<ZefTheFox>
It redraws the entire screen with every clickL194[11:24:14] <ZefTheFox>
and the way I have it drawing is going through an x and a y
loop
<ZefTheFox>
and the way I have it drawing is going through an x and a y
loopL195[11:24:19] <ZefTheFox>
drawing character by character
<ZefTheFox>
drawing character by characterL196[11:25:24] <AmandaC> Step one: don't
do that
L197[11:27:30] <Z0idburg>
There's many ways to do that
<Z0idburg>
There's many ways to do thatL198[11:28:27] <Z0idburg>
You can keep a buffer of mutations
<Z0idburg>
You can keep a buffer of mutationsL199[11:28:36] <Z0idburg>
and only perform updates on mutations
<Z0idburg>
and only perform updates on mutationsL200[11:28:55] <Z0idburg>
so for example, don't redraw what's already there, your computer is
doing that for you
<Z0idburg>
so for example, don't redraw what's already there, your computer is
doing that for youL201[11:29:17] <AmandaC> By the goddess .
I think I just realised why an ancient piece of code I'm not even
sure I still have was so shitty
L202[11:29:45] <ZefTheFox>
It's because I just use my initial drawing routine for every
change
<ZefTheFox>
It's because I just use my initial drawing routine for every
changeL203[11:29:51] <ZefTheFox>
I know I can make it more efficiend
<ZefTheFox>
I know I can make it more efficiendL204[11:29:53] <ZefTheFox>
I know I can make it more efficient [Edited]
<ZefTheFox>
I know I can make it more efficient [Edited]L206[11:33:29] <Inari> AmandaC: play with
pico8?
L207[11:35:18] <AmandaC> Inari: but my
laptop is at home.
L208[11:35:25] <Inari> Psh
L209[11:35:35] <Inari> Don't you have a
portable pico thingy
L210[11:35:44] <AmandaC> That's at home
too
L211[11:35:48] <Inari> ¬_¬
L212[11:36:35] <AmandaC> Also the company
that made it went under
L213[11:37:11] <Inari> Heh
L214[11:38:01] <AmandaC> (the pocket chip,
not pico8)
L215[11:38:07] <AmandaC> (afaik)
L216[11:39:14] <payonel> CHIP is
closed?
L217[11:39:17] <payonel> :(
L218[11:39:22] <payonel> i really liked
CHIP
L219[11:39:29] <payonel> i backed their
KS, i have oen
L220[11:39:31] <payonel> one*
L221[11:40:42] <AmandaC> I've got a pocket
chip, and yeah, apparently they went under in May or so
L222[11:41:04] <Inari> Huhu
L223[11:41:07] <AmandaC> Just silently
declared bankruptcy
L224[11:41:08] <Inari> MultiMC fails to DL
forge
L225[11:41:21] <asie> yes, the server
seems to be having issues
L226[11:41:21] <payonel> welp
L227[11:41:23] <payonel> http://www.nextthing.co/
L228[11:41:37] <Inari> I see
L229[11:41:41] <AmandaC> Yup, that's how I
found out too
L230[11:41:45] <Inari> I wanted to write
two OC modules D:
L231[11:41:56] <AmandaC> Then googled it
and saw they went under
L232[11:43:19] <Inari> Oh look
L233[11:43:29] <Inari> Network Next
finally created their website
L234[11:43:30] <Inari> https://www.networknext.com/
L235[11:43:45] <payonel> AmandaC: lack of
official announcement, even with a news org, is a
bit..unprofessional
L236[11:43:52] <AmandaC> Yeah
L237[11:43:56] <payonel> so that's
disappointing
L238[11:45:21] <Inari> Hm
L239[11:45:36] <Inari> i wonder how you
could make a line-highlight effect around the mouse in CSS
L240[11:52:59] <AmandaC> With accompanying
HTML and on hover css
L242[11:53:23] <ZefTheFox>
Now it should run much faster
<ZefTheFox>
Now it should run much fasterL243[11:54:00] <Lizzy> okay, pi-pi serial
connection set up... lets see how well this does
L244[11:54:59] <Inari> payonel: Hm, whats
the way to create a virtual component in OpenOS? Or maybe even in
OC in general if possible
L245[11:58:34] <payonel> Inari: at the
core, components are detected via an api call and/or an event
L246[11:58:46] <payonel> thus, if you
mimic those two things, you've got a virtual component
L247[11:59:19] <Lizzy> somehow pi-pi is
worse than pi-my pc
L248[11:59:47] <payonel> the api calls
being [machine.]component.list, [machine.]component.methods,
[machine.]component.invoke, [machine.]component.proxy
L249[12:00:01] <payonel> and the events
component_added and component_removed
L250[12:00:06] <Inari> hrm
L251[12:00:14] <payonel> Inari: to be
honest, i dont think it is very easy to fake a component :) it's a
lot of setup
L252[12:00:24] <Inari> Sounds like I'd hav
eto override machien :P
L253[12:00:27] <payonel> but gamax92 has
his vcomponent oppm project
L254[12:00:52] <Inari> Ah, right
L255[12:06:20] <Lizzy> hmm, okay so
speedtest didn't get that great speeds, but an sftp file transfer
is currently sitting around 100Kbit/s
L256[12:06:38] <Lizzy> at 150000
baud
L257[12:08:58] <Lizzy> trying now at
2,000,000 baud
L258[12:09:13] <Lizzy> seems less
stable
L259[12:11:21] <Lizzy> yeah, dropping back
to 1500000 baud gets higher speeds
L260[12:11:36] <Lizzy> just peaked at
125kbit/s
L261[12:18:26] <Lizzy> hmm, since i'm now
communicating between pis, i wonder if i can get more speed by
connecting up the CTS/CTR lines
L262[12:34:37] <Skye> Lizzy: most
likely
L263[12:36:37] <payonel> Izaya: *sigh* ...
even though this new redstone api makes a lot of sense
L264[12:36:45] <payonel> i think i have to
respect backwards compat
L265[12:36:55] <payonel> that makes me
sad, it should have been this way to begin with
L266[12:37:27] <payonel> oh hmm, maybe we
added that after 1.7.2! i'll check that
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L269[12:40:28] <Lizzy> hmm, to use the
CTS/RTR pins on the Pi1B I have, i'd need to solder an extra
header
L270[12:42:19] <payonel> Izaya: !!! yay!
1.7.2 ignores missing values!
L271[12:42:20] <payonel> ok, done
L272[12:42:43] <payonel> this actually
reverted during 1.7.3-dev work :) haha
L273[12:42:52] <payonel> so i've returned
to 1.7.2 behavior
L274[12:42:53] <payonel> good
L275[12:43:12] <AmandaC> payonel: what
kind of redstone changes?
L276[12:43:45] <payonel> the follow are
equivalent
L277[12:43:48] <payonel>
component.redstone.setOutput(sides.left, 15)
L278[12:44:00] <payonel>
component.redstone.setOutput({ [sides.left] = 15 })
L279[12:44:27] <AmandaC> Ah, allows
setting multiple at once?
L280[12:44:33] <payonel> yes
L281[12:44:37] <AmandaC> Nice
L282[12:44:40] <payonel> also, same style
of overrrides for bundled
L283[12:45:08] <payonel>
component.redstone.setBundledOutput( { [sides.left] = {
[colors.blue] = 100 } } )
L284[12:45:24] <payonel> you can set any
subset of sides and colors all at once
L285[12:45:30] <Lizzy> does it also allow
for reading multiple at once? I think i remember raising an issue
about either that or getting the colours in the signals
L286[12:45:32] <payonel> for the cost (in
time) of a single set call
L287[12:45:36] <payonel> Lizzy: it
does
L288[12:45:40] <Lizzy> wooo
L289[12:45:53] <payonel>
component.redstone.getBundledInput() (and *Output)
L290[12:45:57] <payonel> returns ALL the
data at ocne
L291[12:46:01] <payonel> once*
L292[12:46:13] <payonel> and *.getInput()
or *.getOutput()
L293[12:46:19] <payonel> i made these
overrides for everything
L294[12:46:57] <payonel> Lizzy: yeah, and
colors are in signals
L295[12:47:09] <Lizzy> awesome stuff
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L297[12:47:54] <payonel> the issue i was
concerned about was "should i zero out values you
omit"
L298[12:48:04] <payonel> i didn't LIKE
that, but i was concerned the api behaved like that
previously
L299[12:48:14] <payonel> it did in some
cases :) but only in our dev builds
L300[12:48:19] <Lizzy> that simplifies
code that listens for changes in the bundled stuff, cause before
you'd need to keep polling through all the colours and keep a state
of them to see what ones changed
L301[12:48:33] <payonel> yeah, that was a
mess
L302[12:49:20] <payonel> hah, also, i've
done this in 1.7.10
L303[12:49:26] <payonel> this will
actually take a bit of work to merge up
L304[12:49:38] <payonel> because it
changed a bunch of code i know has changed a few times
L305[12:49:45] <payonel> yay...
L306[12:49:49] <Lizzy> lol
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L312[13:00:04] <Lizzy> hmm, so the Pi2
variant of the RS232 HATs i have doesn't have the RTR/CTS pins
connected between the connector and the GPIO block so yay. lets
modify my other pi2 to do this
L313[13:01:15] <Inari> Meh
L314[13:01:21] <Inari> Reika makes me miss
old MC modding days
L315[13:01:47] <Lizzy> k, lets drop the
pi1 and swap in my pi2
L316[13:03:16] <Inari> With https://forums.factorio.com/viewtopic.php?p=385198#p385198
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L318[13:13:08] <Temia> There are RS232
hats?
L319[13:13:24] <Temia> Seems kind of
overkill, I just made an adapter with a MAX3232 breakout
board.
L320[13:15:47] <Lizzy> Temia, yup,
abelectronics.co.uk is where i got mine from but i'm prettu sure
Aidafruit would also do one.
L321[13:16:26] <Lizzy> and it's not so
much overkill if you're using it to interface with other
RS232-compliant stuff (i.e. stuff which output 5v and would
probably kill the pi)
L322[13:19:47] <Temia> Well, that's what I
made the adapter for, honestly >>a
L323[13:19:59] <Temia> Also is convenient
when working with other TTL UART stuff
L324[13:39:28] <Lizzian>
Before I tear it down to wire my 2 Pi2's together, here's the link
between Darcath (left, my Pi 1b) and Pegasus (right, one of my Pi
2's) http://tinyurl.com/y8jdpny2
<Lizzian>
Before I tear it down to wire my 2 Pi2's together, here's the link
between Darcath (left, my Pi 1b) and Pegasus (right, one of my Pi
2's) http://tinyurl.com/y8jdpny2L325[13:52:10]
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L328[13:53:14] <Kleadron>
wot
<Kleadron>
wotL329[13:54:11] <Forecaster>
wat
<Forecaster>
watL330[13:54:19] <Inari> wat wat
L331[13:54:36] <Forecaster>
aw, I expected inari to respond "wet"
<Forecaster>
aw, I expected inari to respond "wet"L332[13:54:44] <Inari> Psh
L333[13:54:52] <Inari> Thats a terrible
word
L334[13:54:54] <Inari> At least use
moist
L335[13:54:59] <Kleadron>
damp
<Kleadron>
dampL336[13:55:05] <Forecaster>
but that doesn't fir the pattern
<Forecaster>
but that doesn't fir the patternL337[13:55:09] <Forecaster>
fit*
<Forecaster>
fit*L338[13:55:51] <Kleadron>
moist, damp, wet
<Kleadron>
moist, damp, wetL339[13:56:06] <Kleadron>
what would inari use this words for
<Kleadron>
what would inari use this words forL340[13:56:21] <Inari> s/this/these/
L341[13:56:22] <MichiBot> <Kleadron>
what would inari use these words for
L342[13:56:52] <Inari> @Kleadron a
bath?
L343[13:57:06] <Forecaster>
watering the plants
<Forecaster>
watering the plantsL344[13:57:20] <Inari> Or the inside of a
tentacle pit perhaps :P
L345[13:57:38] <Kleadron> i
thought i said "these" but every once in a while i say a
completely different word for some stupid reason
<Kleadron> i
thought i said "these" but every once in a while i say a
completely different word for some stupid reasonL346[13:58:54] <Kleadron>
ok none of this is as important as akbkuku's new video https://youtu.be/4DPMTiUihQc
<Kleadron>
ok none of this is as important as akbkuku's new video https://youtu.be/4DPMTiUihQcL347[13:58:55] <MichiBot> 0x0029.3 -
1/2 yr Update on HP-86 3D Printed Key Stems | length: 21m
45s | Likes: 188 Dislikes:
2 Views: 1,701 | by
AkBKukU | Published On 3/11/2018
L348[14:00:33] <Forecaster>
it only has 2 dislikes, it can't the that important :P
<Forecaster>
it only has 2 dislikes, it can't the that important :PL349[14:00:56] <Forecaster>
it only has 2 dislikes, it can't be that important :P
[Edited]
<Forecaster>
it only has 2 dislikes, it can't be that important :P
[Edited]L350[14:10:47] <Lizzy> hmm, so pi2 to pi2
sees speeds easilly sit at 180KB/s (this is download now where as
the others were upload)
L351[14:10:52] <Lizzy> lets test
upload
L352[14:11:34] <Lizzy> hmm, uploading
hovers around 157KB/s
L353[14:12:43] <Lizzy> lets try cranking
back up to 2000000
L354[14:13:07] <Lizzy> oh
L355[14:13:13] <Lizzy> we were already at
2000000
L356[14:14:53] *
Lizzy stabs systemd-resolver
L357[14:15:53] <Lizzy> oops, just killed
systemd
L358[14:29:43] <Lizzy> yay, amazon
delivered my package to the wrong house
L359[14:31:11] <Lizzy> aand my anxiety is
preventing me from contacting amazon support and inquiring about
it
L360[14:31:36] <Lizzy> so i'll just hope
that the people where it got delivered bring it round at some
point
L361[14:32:46] <Lizzy> if not, then well,
i've jkust lost 18 pounds
L362[14:35:14] <ZefTheFox>
Not even halfway done with this drawing
<ZefTheFox>
Not even halfway done with this drawingL364[14:50:23] <payonel> Lizzy: wish i was
there, i'd be happy to kindly visit your neighbor and help you
out
L365[14:52:23] <AmandaC> payonel: well,
with this new technology I call a "ballistic missle with a
sleeping bag" you can be there in mere hours!
L366[15:10:37] <Kleadron>
@Forecaster pepto bismo planet
<Kleadron>
@Forecaster pepto bismo planetL367[15:16:40] <Lizzy> okay, with the help
of my dad i contacted amazon support
L368[15:17:34] <Lizzy> and it would seem
that the package is still in transit and "just got scanned by
accident" when they were delivering to another house across
the road
L370[15:38:43] <AmandaC> Hey! Pepto
Bismal!
L371[15:39:33] <AmandaC> Yay!*
(Apparently)
L372[15:40:35] <AmandaC> (( https://thumbs.gfycat.com/DistantDizzyIcelandichorse-small.gif
))
L373[15:41:14] <payonel> til: when doing a
refactor that needs to be merged into heavily changes code paths,
don't reorder method defitions
L374[15:43:26] <Inari> Hrm
L375[15:43:58] <Inari> if I connect two
cases with cables, and put a monitor on top of each case, it can
happen that both cases try to use the same monitor?
L376[15:44:08] <Forecaster>
yep!
<Forecaster>
yep!L377[15:44:09] <MGR>
Correct
<MGR>
CorrectL378[15:44:26] <Inari> How do I prevent
that then
L379[15:44:34] <Lizzy> relay in
between
L380[15:44:43] <MGR>
^
<MGR>
^L381[15:44:45] <Inari> I see
L382[15:44:48] <Forecaster>
relay or modify openos to select a specific monitor
<Forecaster>
relay or modify openos to select a specific monitorL383[15:44:50] <MGR> relay
or power divider
<MGR> relay
or power dividerL384[15:44:51] <Inari> It's still a
two-way connectiont hat way though?
L385[15:45:00] <Forecaster>
for network messages yes
<Forecaster>
for network messages yesL386[15:45:05] <AmandaC> pester payonel to
store monitors and such instead of just finding the first one every
boot
L387[15:45:07] <Inari> Okay, thats what I
need :3
L388[15:45:17] <Inari> payonel: Use that
eeprom data
L389[15:45:17] <Inari> ;D
L390[15:45:23] <Forecaster>
how do you not know that xD
<Forecaster>
how do you not know that xDL391[15:45:38] <Inari> Dunno, haven't used
OC for a long time, and barely ever used the cables I guess
L392[15:45:44] <Inari> Usually just went
for wirelsss cards
L393[15:46:25] <payonel> better boot might
be a good thing for 1.8
L394[15:46:35] <payonel> but if i want to
use more eeprom data, i have to change our lua eeprom code
L395[15:46:41] <payonel> which means
people would need to craft new eeproms
L396[15:46:46] <Inari> What do you store
in data currently?
L397[15:46:55] <payonel> only the
filesystem you last booted from
L398[15:47:06] <payonel> but the eeprom
assumes it can use the entire data for only that
L399[15:47:12] <payonel> the default* lua
eeprom
L400[15:47:30] <Inari> Oh, I see
L401[15:47:43] <Inari> I don't see why
thats even part of the eeprom code tbh :p
L402[15:49:50] <Lizzy> \o/ got my
package
L403[15:50:19] <payonel> woo!
L404[15:51:04] <AmandaC> I should poke
amazon to make sure their app is lying to me, not that customer
service rep I talked to about a package they lost.
L405[15:51:32] <AmandaC> ( I opted for a
refund, the app says "Awaiting return" when... I never
got the bloody thing, the carrier lost it )
L406[15:52:04] <Lizzian> I
also got some more sd cards... This is one next to the packaging
http://tinyurl.com/yatglsns
<Lizzian> I
also got some more sd cards... This is one next to the packaging
http://tinyurl.com/yatglsnsL407[15:52:41] <Inari> Carcassonne is
interesting
L408[15:52:58] <AmandaC> I love the fact
that the answer for why amazon sometimes uses stupid-big boxes is
basically "their servers areplaying tetris and that piece fit
best for where it was going in the truck"
L409[15:53:52] <Lizzy> i mean, that's the
sandisk packaging, not amazons. though i have received some stuff
in the past that had a box with 90% filler material
L410[15:54:57] <Inari> I do enjoy a good
packaging
L411[15:55:42] *
AmandaC drags a box in front of Inari, goes back to the observation
platform.
L412[15:55:52] <Inari> Heh
L413[15:56:05] <Inari> Not in that way,
you silly kitty
L414[15:59:49] *
payonel blushes
L415[16:01:51] <payonel> i definitely
appreciate packaging for a perfect fit
L416[16:07:21] <ZefTheFox>
Ha!
<ZefTheFox>
Ha!L418[16:07:42] <ZefTheFox>
only took literally 7 hours
<ZefTheFox>
only took literally 7 hoursL419[16:08:02] <ZefTheFox>
The file is 54kb
<ZefTheFox>
The file is 54kbL420[16:08:19] <payonel> nice :)
L421[16:08:20] <ZefTheFox>
53, 687 characters
<ZefTheFox>
53, 687 charactersL422[16:08:30] <ZefTheFox>
Because it's literally just a huge table
<ZefTheFox>
Because it's literally just a huge tableL423[16:08:35] <payonel> can you white the
bottom right?
L424[16:08:36] <Forecaster>
psh, it's the wrong ratio! B-
<Forecaster>
psh, it's the wrong ratio! B-L425[16:08:43] <payonel> there is a bit of
green outside the border
L426[16:08:59] <ZefTheFox>
Well that's just how I did it lol
<ZefTheFox>
Well that's just how I did it lolL427[16:09:23] <MGR> Well
done!
<MGR> Well
done!L429[16:09:36] <MichiBot> Diablo
Immortal Announced As A Mobile Game And Fans Fly Into A
Disappointed Fury | length: 9m 8s | Likes: 9,857 Dislikes: 137 Views: 107,987 | by Jim
Sterling | Published On 3/11/2018
L430[16:18:15] <AmandaC> @Forecaster I was
just sending a screenshot to my co-admin/gbf about that.
"Gamers" are so fucking pissy about that, it's both
amusing and hope-draining
L431[16:19:25] <Forecaster>
O
<Forecaster>
OL432[16:19:57] <Forecaster>
I'd be upset to if I wanted a new full game and got a garbage
mobile game that will probably will have microtransactions instead
[Edited]
<Forecaster>
I'd be upset to if I wanted a new full game and got a garbage
mobile game that will probably will have microtransactions instead
[Edited]L433[16:20:22] <AmandaC> They literally
said the week before "There will be no major game
announcements at blizzcon"
L434[16:20:25] <Forecaster>
I'd be upset too if I wanted a new full game and got a garbage
mobile game that will probably have microtransactions instead
[Edited]
<Forecaster>
I'd be upset too if I wanted a new full game and got a garbage
mobile game that will probably have microtransactions instead
[Edited]L435[16:21:59] <AmandaC> And even if they
didn't, you can't piss all over something because it didn't fufill
your unrealistic, baseless, fantasies
L436[16:22:11] <Forecaster>
sure you can, it's the internet
<Forecaster>
sure you can, it's the internetL437[16:22:13] <Forecaster>
:P
<Forecaster>
:PL438[16:22:23] <AmandaC> Well, that
there's the "hope-draining" part.
L439[16:23:17] <Forecaster>
okay, well so is being upset over people being upset as far as I'm
concerned
<Forecaster>
okay, well so is being upset over people being upset as far as I'm
concernedL440[16:23:40] <Vexatos> Diablo 4
confirmed for Nintendo Switch??????
L441[16:23:47] <AmandaC> It's just
draining, all over twitter / imgur today has been people being
pissy about it
L442[16:23:49] <Forecaster>
I don't really care either way, I haven't played Diablo since the
second game
<Forecaster>
I don't really care either way, I haven't played Diablo since the
second gameL443[16:24:17] <Vexatos> I know it is a
top-down RPG with funky inventory management mechanics and that's
about it
L444[16:25:27] <payonel> games are turning
ever more into electronic storefronts
L445[16:25:46] <Forecaster>
I just avoid games that are like that
<Forecaster>
I just avoid games that are like thatL446[16:26:03] <payonel> i personally
agree with the diablo hate, d3 is when i boycotted blizzard, and
i'll always be done with them
L447[16:26:08] <Forecaster>
it's pretty easy actually
<Forecaster>
it's pretty easy actuallyL448[16:26:33] <payonel> yes, it is. i'm
the same
L449[16:27:14] <Forecaster>
I don't "boycot" anything though
<Forecaster>
I don't "boycot" anything thoughL450[16:27:23] <Forecaster>
I judge things on a per-game basis
<Forecaster>
I judge things on a per-game basisL451[16:28:03] <payonel> nah, i hold a
grudge irrationally
L452[16:28:05] <payonel> :)
L453[16:28:38] <Forecaster>
I have better things to worry about :P
<Forecaster>
I have better things to worry about :PL454[16:29:06] <Vexatos> I don't have any
of these problems because I hardly have time to play games at all!
:D
L455[16:29:15] <payonel> i haven't noticed
a diminishing ability to worry about other things
L456[16:29:28] <AmandaC> @Forecaster is
off working in the demonitisation-mines
L457[16:29:42] <Vexatos> I only recently
found a game again that actually makes me want to play .-.
L458[16:29:56] <Vexatos> for the first
time in way too many years
L459[16:30:06] <Forecaster>
if you're talking about the YouTube stuff I don't have monetization
enabled on my channel
<Forecaster>
if you're talking about the YouTube stuff I don't have monetization
enabled on my channelL460[16:30:24] <AmandaC> ah
L461[16:31:06] <AmandaC> I've got...
~checks what they're calling it this month~ "YouTube
PRemium" so I genuinely can't tell either way, because no
videos show pre-roll / mid-roll ads
L462[16:31:41] <Forecaster>
I've never had it enabled
<Forecaster>
I've never had it enabledL463[16:31:57] <Vexatos> mid-roll ads is
when I enabled adblock again :D
L464[16:32:08] <Forecaster>
there's no point, I get less than 10 views per video
<Forecaster>
there's no point, I get less than 10 views per videoL465[16:32:21] <Forecaster>
turning it on would make no difference
<Forecaster>
turning it on would make no differenceL466[16:32:59] <CompanionCube> AmandaC:
the dude was a total failure at announcing it though
L467[16:33:04] <CompanionCube> any boos
they got were deserved.
L468[16:33:33] <Forecaster>
and they announced it to a room full of PC-gamers :P
<Forecaster>
and they announced it to a room full of PC-gamers :PL469[16:33:52] <Forecaster>
which is what Blizzard games tend to cater to
<Forecaster>
which is what Blizzard games tend to cater toL470[16:35:24] <Inari> Eh, the mobile
thingy looksl ike d3 with a bit dumbed down graphics, so I don't
get all the "Oh god!". BUt I hate D3 in general, so
L471[16:35:43] <CompanionCube> Inari: the
worst part is that there's a good chance it's not even really their
game
L472[16:35:46] <CompanionCube> but someone
else's reskinned
L473[16:35:53] <Inari> Eh
L474[16:35:59] <Inari> The gameplay looked
very d3
L475[16:36:29] <Inari> CompanionCube: But
not like you can go wrong with reskinning, given how generic
hack&slash it is anyway :D
L476[16:37:07] <Lizzy> what are you guys
talking about and should i care?
L477[16:37:23] <Forecaster>
they've claimed it's a distinct game, but the company that is
making it have already made similar games that look basically the
same, that's the point
<Forecaster>
they've claimed it's a distinct game, but the company that is
making it have already made similar games that look basically the
same, that's the pointL478[16:37:26] <AmandaC> Lizzy gamers
being pissy little brats and no
L479[16:37:27] <Inari> Diablo 3 and the
mobile game they announced
L480[16:37:32] <Lizzy> k
L481[16:37:35] <CompanionCube> Lizzy:
blizzard were complete failures at announcing their new mobile
shitgame
L482[16:42:26] <AmandaC>
[crickets.tiff]
L483[16:42:58] <CompanionCube> tiff?
L484[16:43:04] <AmandaC> tiff.
L485[16:43:04] <CompanionCube> why
L486[16:43:08] <AmandaC> why not?
L487[16:43:31] <CompanionCube>
[crickets.mp4] is better
L488[16:43:41] <AmandaC> nah, who needs
sound
L489[16:43:48] <Forecaster>
way better quality! :D
<Forecaster>
way better quality! :DL490[16:43:50]
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L491[16:44:01] <Bmo006> Hello
L492[16:44:04] <payonel> Bmo006: o/
L493[16:44:05] <CompanionCube> AmandaC:
but who wants to look at a picture of crickets when the sound
effect's a better fit
L494[16:44:11] <CompanionCube>
%hello
L495[16:44:11] <MichiBot> CompanionCube:
Hello! Welcome to #oc! The one and only opencomputers channel!
Please ask your questions directly (dont ask to ask) and provide
error/code examples! (Use pastebin.com if theyre more than one
line!) Dont mind the random conversation you might have walked
into.
L496[16:44:23] <MGR>
Hello
<MGR>
HelloL497[16:44:34] <AmandaC> It's not a
picture of a cricket, it's a picture of a waveform of crickets,
DUH!
L498[16:45:45] <AmandaC> With a secret
steinographed map to the treasure, ofc
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L500[16:46:01] <Forecaster>
%bye
<Forecaster>
%byeL501[16:46:02] <MichiBot> Forecaster: Oh,
well, bye I guess...
L502[16:46:11] <AmandaC> bye
@Forecaster
L503[16:46:13] <AmandaC> :P
L504[16:46:34] <Forecaster>
psh, I'm here twice, I'm not going anywhere :P
<Forecaster>
psh, I'm here twice, I'm not going anywhere :PL505[16:47:03] *
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L506[16:47:12] <Lizzy> :P
L507[16:47:20] <Corded> *
<Forecaster> commands some contemplation
L508[16:47:40] *
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CRT from an unseen hole in the ceiling in the corner
L509[16:47:52] *
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L510[16:48:12] <AmandaC> <Jigsaw> Do
you want to-- hey,s top that!
L511[16:49:47] <CompanionCube> AmandaC:
watch it or I'll get a magnet from somewhere
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L513[16:51:38] <AmandaC> %choose
technolo
L514[16:51:38] <MichiBot> AmandaC: The
choice seems obvious...
L515[16:51:41] <AmandaC> welp
L516[16:52:14] <Forecaster>
xD
<Forecaster>
xDL517[16:52:45] <AmandaC> %choose ??? or ?
or just ?
L518[16:52:45] <MichiBot> AmandaC: I
received a message from future you, said to go with just ?.
L519[16:53:27] <AmandaC> How far in the
future, though?
L520[16:53:48] <Forecaster>
you'd have to ask MichiBot :P
<Forecaster>
you'd have to ask MichiBot :PL521[16:54:02] <AmandaC> How?
L522[16:54:08] <AmandaC> %randomdate
L523[16:54:10] <Forecaster>
with choose?
<Forecaster>
with choose?L524[16:54:14] <Forecaster>
I guess
<Forecaster>
I guessL525[16:54:37] <Forecaster>
or 8ball
<Forecaster>
or 8ballL526[16:56:04] ⇦
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L529[16:59:16] <AmandaC> Let's talk about
something less divisive: Climate change! https://i.imgur.com/l8PYpvq.jpg
L530[17:00:00] <Forecaster>
I don't believe in weather, it's all a conspiracy by the lizard
martians
<Forecaster>
I don't believe in weather, it's all a conspiracy by the lizard
martiansL531[17:00:53] <20kdc> I
intend to cause as much climate change as possible.
<20kdc> I
intend to cause as much climate change as possible.L532[17:01:21] <20kdc>
Fortunately for the iceberg, that sentence is so ambiguous I'm
hiding my true intention to get rid of the Sun. And I don't mean
the newspaper.
<20kdc>
Fortunately for the iceberg, that sentence is so ambiguous I'm
hiding my true intention to get rid of the Sun. And I don't mean
the newspaper.L533[17:01:40] <AmandaC> I told you
before, @20kdc that's not a good excuse for eating Taco Bell for
every meal, please stop, we all are worried about you!
L534[17:01:40] <Forecaster>
ambitious, I like it
<Forecaster>
ambitious, I like itL535[17:01:46] <Izaya> can you get rid of
the newspaper too
L536[17:02:16] <20kdc>
Izaya: If they manage to survive the Earth turning into a nice
snowball, then they'll have made enough effort that they'll have
earned sticking around.
<20kdc>
Izaya: If they manage to survive the Earth turning into a nice
snowball, then they'll have made enough effort that they'll have
earned sticking around.L537[17:02:24] <Izaya> fair
L538[17:02:46] <CompanionCube> as long as
the daily mail doesn't survive
L539[17:02:46] <AmandaC> and being flung
out of our little corner of the galaxy, possibly into the path of
one of our other Sol neighbors.
L540[17:03:48] <20kdc>
pretty sure all of those vampires will start wishing for daytime to
come back
<20kdc>
pretty sure all of those vampires will start wishing for daytime to
come backL541[17:05:04] <CompanionCube> i
wonder
L542[17:05:22] <CompanionCube> have any
other newspapers pissed off an entire city enough for them to
boycott
L543[17:06:46] <Mimiru> %newtopic
L544[17:06:46] <MichiBot> Mimiru: #11 I
shall now sing to you the song of my people, the song of wanting
fightin' words!
L545[17:07:27] <Forecaster>
xD
<Forecaster>
xDL546[17:08:25] <AmandaC> TIL MichiBot is a
Klingon
L547[17:16:22] <dequbed> AmandaC: The
Titanic had two sister ships so a "Titanic replica" set
sail 1915 :P
L548[17:18:10] <Inari> It's once again
time to milk the muffalo
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L550[17:24:43] <LizBeGaming> hmm, okay so
aparrently this irc conenction is a thing
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L552[17:25:15] <AmandaC> was that you,
Lizzy?
L553[17:25:18] <Lizzy> yes
L554[17:25:33] <Lizzy> i found some old
multimc instances
L555[17:26:09] <Inari> Heh
L556[17:26:41] <Kleadron>
\?
<Kleadron>
\?L557[17:27:01] <Lizzy> hmm, some don't
want to load because of library fetching not working
L558[17:27:35] <Lizzy> oh, cause it
301-redirects from http to https and multimc can't seem to handle
that
L559[17:30:06] <AmandaC> %choose ☔ or
no
L560[17:30:06] <MichiBot> AmandaC: You'll
want to go with ☔.
L561[17:30:11] <AmandaC> I agree.
L562[17:31:39] *
Lizzy goes to set up a small reverse/caching-proxy so that this
stuff still works
L563[17:34:14] <Kleadron>
is minecraft its own game engine
<Kleadron>
is minecraft its own game engineL564[17:34:26] <Lizzy> unsure
L565[17:34:40] <Izaya> well, it doesn't
use an existing game engine
L566[17:34:48] <AmandaC> Depends what you
call a game engine
L567[17:35:17] <AmandaC> It doesn't use
unity or similar, but it is using lwjgl
L568[17:35:36] <Izaya> probably depends on
whether you'd call something used for one game and inseperable from
said game an engine or just a game
L569[17:37:07] <AmandaC> I wonder how far
Starbound got in their plans to make most of the game's content not
be hard-coded into c++
L570[17:37:25] <Kleadron> i
said i would redo my window drawing program a while ago but i
havent done it, im a lazy peice of crap
<Kleadron> i
said i would redo my window drawing program a while ago but i
havent done it, im a lazy peice of crapL571[17:38:03] <Kleadron> i
think someone else here also made one
<Kleadron> i
think someone else here also made oneL572[17:38:24] <AmandaC> I should work on
rhinomud some more sometime
L573[17:39:10] <AmandaC> C++, xml, and
Lua, all glued together into a MUD
L574[17:39:49] <Kleadron>
that sounds like literal hell
<Kleadron>
that sounds like literal hellL575[17:39:59] <Izaya> remove the XML part
and it sounds alright
L576[17:40:17] <Izaya> Assuming you like
C++ and Lua that sounds like a decent time
L577[17:40:19] <AmandaC> ... which I think
(used to?) Crash the instant the first letter was attempted to
become real
L578[17:40:27] <Lizzy> mwahahaha, got
multimc to work
L579[17:40:52] <dequbed> RimWorld is
mostly XML at this point. Makes modding of small things rather
easy.
L580[17:41:16] *
Lizzy just needs to remember to remove the entry she added to her
hosts file when she uses stuff other than 1.7.10
L581[17:41:44] <AmandaC> The xml was
because I didn't want to make a text parser. Today I'd probably go
with flatbuffers, granted those didn't exist when I first made the
thing
L582[17:42:03] <Izaya> flatbuffers?
L583[17:42:21] <payonel> Izaya: those are
literally my two favorite languages :)
L584[17:42:22] <AmandaC> Protobuf lite,
basically
L585[17:42:25] <payonel> well, in my top
3
L586[17:42:37] <dequbed> mayonel: what's
#3?
L587[17:42:57] <payonel> c#
L588[17:43:10] <Inari> %pet AmandaC
L589[17:43:11] *
MichiBot brushes AmandaC with a phone charger. 1 health
gained!
L590[17:44:12] <Inari> When you turn on
your smartphones flashlight, but it doesn't actually turn on, so
for some reason you turn the phone around to look at the flashlight
and of course then its pointed at your eyes and turns on ¬_¬
L591[17:44:26] <dequbed> payonel: that's
like .. 5 notes off <.< :p
L592[17:44:34] <payonel> >.>
L593[17:45:49] <payonel> ok, pushed new
redstone code!
L594[17:45:53] <AmandaC> The xml is mostly
metadata / state saving
L595[17:46:04] <dequbed> XML for state?
<.<
L596[17:46:05] <AmandaC> Unfortunately,
the map is part of those
L597[17:46:38] <AmandaC> Player state,
tobe specific
L598[17:50:23] <Forecaster>
but who is this "Tobe S. Pecific" and what does he
know...
<Forecaster>
but who is this "Tobe S. Pecific" and what does he
know...L599[17:50:44] <payonel> wasn't someone
saying that forge was failing?
L600[17:50:50] <payonel> their download
service?
L601[17:51:03] <payonel> i'm telling you,
we should backup all their libraries before its too late
L602[17:51:07] <payonel> https://ci.cil.li/job/OpenComputers-MC1.7.10/1247/console
L603[17:51:24] <payonel> ^ failed: Etag
download for http://files.minecraftforge.net/maven/net/minecraftforge/forge/json
failed with code 301
L604[17:51:55] <dequbed> payonel: Where
does the 301 Location: point to?
L605[17:52:01] <Lizzy> 301 is a redirect
to https
L606[17:52:07] <Lizzy> probably
L607[17:52:19] <Lizzy> i just had a
similar issue trying to launch 1.7 versions of mc
L608[17:52:38] <AmandaC>
<room><name>izaya's hell</name><desc>this
is the personal hell of Izaya.</desc><script
src="utils/random_chatter.lua"><data><table><string
key="300">Izaya moans in the corner, chained to the
walls with a > and a
<</string></table></data></script></room>
L609[17:52:51] <Izaya>
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
L610[17:52:54] <payonel> why did that ping
me ...
L611[17:52:55] <dequbed> That's very much
not Izayas hell :p
L612[17:53:02] <Izaya> it's not pleasant
though
L613[17:53:15] <payonel> ah, lua in
random_chatter.lua
L614[17:53:25] <dequbed> Don't like to be
chained to walls Izaya? :P
L615[17:53:34] <Lizzy> kinky
L616[17:54:50] <AmandaC> Notice there is
no <exit> tags
L617[17:55:00] <AmandaC> There is no
escape
L618[17:55:09] <Lizzy> oh wow
L619[17:55:23] <Lizzy> the last time i
loaded this instance (or at least took a screenshot) was 2014
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L621[17:56:20] <Lizzy> https://files.theender.net/shx/zion/oldmc.png
L622[17:56:28] <Lizzy> i miss resonant
induction
L623[17:57:06] <Lizzy> now, how the fuck
did i get into the nether inthis world
L624[17:59:18] <Lizzy> WOW
L625[17:59:28] <Lizzy> this pack is so old
i had computer craft in it
L626[17:59:29] <Lizzy> oh wait
L627[17:59:33] <Lizzy> i also have
oc
L628[18:00:02] <Lizzy> :O atomic
science
L629[18:00:08] <ZefTheFox>
I still play with both oc and cc
<ZefTheFox>
I still play with both oc and ccL630[18:00:14] *
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L631[18:00:30] <AmandaC> Of course, you
can always cast "Word of Recall" defined thusly: https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/xFWqr3ro/recall.xml
L632[18:01:13] <AmandaC> I don't think I
ever made it possible to interrupt casting... though, you might be
able to just define a room-local command "cast"
L633[18:01:49] <Lizzy> aww yeah, it
wouldn't be complete without LogiPipes
L634[18:02:14] <AmandaC> I don't think I
ever made the command system work off xml tags, though.
L635[18:02:22] <AmandaC> That's all
scripting-based
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L638[18:05:20] <payonel> so why can't
gradle follow 301s? :(
L639[18:06:04] <AmandaC> Sure picked a
good example script to share. This runs the Recall Tower's hovercar
garage, to get to various placed in the world. It loads an
additional xml file using Lua to have the destinations be
configurable outside the script: https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/IuExikWv/garage.lua
L640[18:06:17] <Lizzy> payonel, idk,
multimc can't do it either
L641[18:06:37] <Lizzy> seems that
somewhere there's a line of code that say "if it's not 200
then it's an error"
L642[18:06:40] <Lizzy> probably
L643[18:06:52] <AmandaC> Said XML file:
https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/48Gh9TUR/garage.xml
L644[18:06:54] <payonel> i even changed
the forge url to be https
L645[18:07:00] <payonel> but...gradle is
having issues
L646[18:07:34] <AmandaC> oh well, that's
enough reminscing / triggering XML-haters. back to relaxing and
podcasts
L647[18:11:28] <AmandaC> The
"recall:garage" identifier was because all the data was
split into "regions" so that'd load
`data/regions/recall/xml-data/garage.xml`
L648[18:16:20] <payonel> what game is
that?
L649[18:18:19] <AmandaC> payonel: my MUD
engine, rhinomud
L650[18:18:38] <AmandaC> The before
mentioned mess of C++, XML, and Lua
L651[18:27:11] <payonel> AmandaC: huh,
interesting. what is inspiring that?
L652[18:27:23] <payonel> are you going to
make a game for it? or just want the provide an engine?
L653[18:27:25] <payonel> what are the
plans?
L654[18:28:38] <AmandaC> payonel: it's an
old project from before 2015, not sure how far before, but that's
just the earliest I saw in the timestamps. I've long since
forgotten the motivations
L655[18:30:22] <AmandaC> Now it's just a
project I pick up and toy with every so often
L656[18:30:50] <Lizzy> https://files.theender.net/shx/zion/18-11-03_233031.png
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L659[18:49:12] <Skye> Lizzy: what's your
Minecraft skin?
L660[18:49:30] <Lizzy> for some reason,
default at the moment
L661[18:49:44] <Mimiru> in 1.7 and older
it will be default
L662[18:49:51] <Mimiru> they killed the
old skin service
L663[18:49:55] <Lizzy> ah
L664[18:50:21] <Mimiru> I have a custom
skin mod kicking around somewhere
L665[18:50:23] <Skye> Rip
L666[18:50:36] <Mimiru> I wrote one so I
could use skins in.... offline mode
L667[18:50:37] <Mimiru> lol
L668[18:50:49] <Mimiru> (mainly for my
kids as they didn't have MC accounts)
L669[18:51:30] <Kleadron>
avatars were a mistake
<Kleadron>
avatars were a mistakeL670[18:59:37] <Skye> Goodnight
L671[19:06:15] <Kleadron>
goodnight random stranger on the internet
<Kleadron>
goodnight random stranger on the internetL672[19:42:13]
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L674[19:42:29] <h0rsepower> Testing
L675[19:42:34] <Ethan> testing
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L679[21:18:27] <AmandaC> %choose more ? or
no
L680[21:18:27] <MichiBot> AmandaC: I'm 40%
more ?!
L681[21:18:49] <AmandaC> %oclogs
L682[21:18:50] <MichiBot> AmandaC:
https://oclogs.pc-logix.com/
L683[21:19:48] <AmandaC> Hrm
L684[21:19:54] <AmandaC> I think search
broke
L685[21:20:39] <AmandaC> I was trying to
figure out how many % michibot was at this point, because shes
definitely passed 100% by now
L686[21:22:14] <AmandaC> Mimiru: no rush,
but ^
L687[21:22:32] <Mimiru> what..?
L688[21:23:47] <Mimiru> AmandaC whats
up?
L689[21:25:00] <Mimiru> Oh.. I see
L690[21:25:18] <AmandaC> Mimiru: tried to
use the search function of oclogs to search "I'm 40%" and
"I am 40%" both with and without the % and got
nothing
L691[21:26:17] <Mimiru> Hello 100
L692[21:26:28] <Kleadron>
Hello 200
<Kleadron>
Hello 200L693[21:26:50] <Mimiru> k.. not numbers
then
L694[21:27:09] <Mimiru> testing 100%
L695[21:27:21] <Mimiru> or '%'
L696[21:27:36] <Mimiru> testing'
L697[21:27:45] <Mimiru> No clue :D
L698[21:27:56] <Mimiru> I'm 40%
L699[21:28:07] <Mimiru> Oh.. wait
L700[21:28:10] <Mimiru> I'm 4000%
L701[21:28:14] <Kleadron>
hi 4000%
<Kleadron>
hi 4000%L702[21:28:17] <Kleadron>
im kleadron
<Kleadron>
im kleadronL703[21:28:20] <Kleadron>
nice to meat you
<Kleadron>
nice to meat youL704[21:28:21] <Mimiru> Yep.
L705[21:28:25] <Mimiru> o_O
L706[21:28:30] <Kleadron>
meet*
<Kleadron>
meet*L707[21:28:30] <Mimiru> don't meat me,
thanks
L708[21:28:35] <Kleadron>
god damnit
<Kleadron>
god damnitL709[21:28:41] <Mimiru> https://irclogs.pc-logix.com/search?search=I%27m+4000%25&case=1&chan=oc
so that works
L710[21:28:54] <Mimiru> It's likely
MySQL's fault then
L711[21:29:35] <Mimiru>
$mysqli->prepare("SELECT `date`, `timestamp`, `message`,
`linenum` FROM `logs` WHERE MATCH(message) AGAINST(? IN BOOLEAN
MODE) AND `channel`=?"); this unholy query is what gets the
result... and yeah
L712[21:30:12] <AmandaC> It's rude to meat
random girls you met online. At least ask if non kosher products is
okay first
L713[21:31:24] <Mimiru> test
message123
L714[21:31:27] <Mimiru> test
message456
L715[21:31:49] <Mimiru> right..
L716[21:31:53] <Mimiru> so yeah
#blamemysql
L717[21:32:07] *
AmandaC goes back to playing pocket city
L718[21:32:25] <AmandaC> Does neo use a
prepared statement as well?
L719[21:33:02] ⇦
Quits: jazzpi (jazzpi!~jazzpi@2a03:4000:6:20f::2) (Quit: ZNC -
http://znc.in)
L720[21:33:31] <Mimiru> Yeah, but MySQL is
what handles the fulltext indexing
L721[21:34:19] <Mimiru> I can change the
minimum token size on the server, but then I have to reindex the
entire table
L722[21:34:26]
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L723[21:34:32] <Mimiru> which is only
like... 4 million lines or so
L724[21:34:36] <Mimiru>
s/lines/rows/
L725[21:34:36] <MichiBot> <Mimiru>
which is only like... 4 million rows or so
L726[21:43:49] <Mimiru> (Minimum token
size is 3, not including symbols it seems)
L727[22:25:17] <AmandaC> Ah
L728[22:25:41] <AmandaC> I was thinking
the lines were missing entirely
L729[22:25:59] <AmandaC> Anyway, bed time.
Night nerds
L730[22:27:43] <Mimiru> https://irclogs.pc-logix.com/view.php?chan=oc&log=2018-11-03.log#L680
L731[22:27:46] <Mimiru> night